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Speaker 1: Welcome into the Jaguars broadcast. We can review podcasts presented

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Speaker 1: Radio Row at the NFL Scott and Combine in Indianapolis.

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Speaker 1: And today we have the best of the week from

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Speaker 1: the Combine on Jaguars Radio and Jaguars dot Com, including

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Speaker 1: Jaguars head coach Doug Peterson making the media tour Tuesday,

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Speaker 1: plus NFL Network and ESPN analysts breaking down the Jags

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Speaker 1: options with the number one overall pick and more. Let's

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Speaker 1: begin with Jaguars head coach Doug Peterson. He spoke at

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Speaker 1: Road Tuesday, including with Ashlan Sullivan and John Ozer talking

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Speaker 1: through the Jags roster and needs. There's talent on the

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Speaker 1: roster number one, and and we know that every year

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Speaker 1: season and there's gonna be changes, right, There's always gonna

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Speaker 1: you know, through free agency. And we want to sign

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Speaker 1: We need to make sure that Trevor has you know,

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Speaker 1: explained how the interview process goes for prospects in the

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Speaker 1: Jaguars room at the NFL scouting combine, We'll draw a play,

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Speaker 1: that's a really good way of understanding how much they

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Speaker 1: know of football. More with Doug Peterson and general manager

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Speaker 1: Sports senior writer Pete Prisco joined Ashland and John here

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Speaker 1: in Indianapolis. The Jaguars are going without an executive vice president,

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Speaker 1: Jaguars have decided they will not hire an executive vice president. Thoughts,

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Speaker 1: I don't like it. I think they needed to bring

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Speaker 1: Moment Welcome back to the Jaguars Broadcast We Can Review

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Speaker 1: We caught up Friday here at the Combine and he

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Speaker 1: guy from when he was thirteen fourteen years old, A

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Speaker 1: lot of people kind of had him as a big

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Speaker 1: entire life. Having this type of pressure on him has

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Speaker 1: also about understanding that even though these expectations are heaped

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Speaker 1: but at some point I have to produce. And we

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Speaker 1: of the talent, you can see the athleticism, but that

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Speaker 1: has to be consistent and I think that's gonna be

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Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence's challenge, right, understanding that I have the baseline

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Speaker 1: skills to be as great as any quarterback that's ever played,

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Speaker 1: but it's about putting it on display every opportunity I

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Speaker 1: get on game day. I think Trevor Lawrence can do that.

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Speaker 1: I think he will do that, But it's bro it's

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Speaker 1: when when people start comparing you to Peyton Manny and Andrew. Look,

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Speaker 1: before you take a snap in the NFL, that's extremely difficult, right,

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Speaker 1: But this guy has dealt with that since the eighth

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Speaker 1: grade and I think he understands that and he embraces that.

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Speaker 1: But he's going to have to show the love for

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Speaker 1: the game in the adversity and that's going to take

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Speaker 1: him to the next step. Also Friday, host of NFL

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Speaker 1: Live on ESPN and SEC Nation um SEC Network, It's

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Speaker 1: Laura Rutledge continuing the conversation about a culture rebuild in Jacksonville,

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Speaker 1: because they think you talk about rebuilding teams and that's

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Speaker 1: more personnel based, right, but rebuilding culture is a little

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Speaker 1: bit more difficult. I think the reason why it won't

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Speaker 1: take long is because you have Trevor Lawrence as your quarterback.

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Speaker 1: And when you talk about a culture guy, a guy

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Speaker 1: who through all the turmoil that you mentioned, remained so steadfast,

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Speaker 1: didn't throw people under the bus, remained classy, can tendue

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Speaker 1: to impress. I mean, what an what an incredible young man.

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Speaker 1: And having covered him in college and watching his success,

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Speaker 1: I've always been a fan um and I really felt

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Speaker 1: for him with everything that was going on, and it

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Speaker 1: just felt like Wow, I mean imagine the number one

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Speaker 1: overall pick and that's great, but then you end up

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Speaker 1: in that type of situation and having to operate through that.

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Speaker 1: I think Doug Peterson is absolutely the right higher and

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Speaker 1: and will be able to get this thing right. It. Um,

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Speaker 1: I love to see it when that's the direction that

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Speaker 1: the Jaguars went. But you know, I would say there's

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Speaker 1: obviously gonna be some patience required, which Jaguars fans were

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Speaker 1: like seriously retired of that, you know. But I think

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Speaker 1: even you look at the Bengals and the turnaround that

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Speaker 1: Burrow and getting the right staff in place and trusting

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Speaker 1: in that staff to build and grow and get better. Um,

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Speaker 1: that's a good model for what the Jags can do. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I would say patience is wearing a little bit thin

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Speaker 1: than Jacksonville these days. What's your best Trevor Lawrence memory

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Speaker 1: college or now in in the in the pros? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: one of my favorite. I mean this one is probably

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Speaker 1: one that other people bring up, but that national championship

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Speaker 1: that he won when he beat Alabama as a freshman.

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Speaker 1: You know, we were there and um, just being on

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Speaker 1: the field and watching the incredible precision with which he

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Speaker 1: operated through that game was one of the most magnificent

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Speaker 1: performances I've ever seen. And for him to be doing

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Speaker 1: it as a freshman, it was it was a wow moment.

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Speaker 1: It was all inspiring me. You just sit there and

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Speaker 1: you say, how is this even possible for this guy?

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Speaker 1: And yet you know, and so much of that conversation

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Speaker 1: that year had been around Alabama's great defense and you know,

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Speaker 1: to a tongue of byloa and all that, and then

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Speaker 1: yet Trevor Lawrence is like, all right, I got it.

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Speaker 1: I'm totally fine, I'm good to go. And so that

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Speaker 1: that's one of my favorite memories of him. I think

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Speaker 1: so much of that celebration, even post game, was everyone

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Speaker 1: was having a good time, even you know, Christian Wilkins

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Speaker 1: is doing splits on the field and whatever. But Trevor

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Speaker 1: was very measured, which he always is. I think it's

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Speaker 1: because he expected to win. And that's what you're getting

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Speaker 1: in this guy. I mean he is. He is the

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Speaker 1: ultimate franchise quarterback, the ultimate guy to build your your

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Speaker 1: team around, and so, um yeah, it's gonna be fun

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Speaker 1: watching him have those celebrations at the NFL level. One

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Speaker 1: of these days, Laura, I can barely hear you with

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Speaker 1: the bench press going on behind us, Laura Rutlets from

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Speaker 1: ESPN with us all right, um, Jaguars have the number

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Speaker 1: one overall picked for the second straight year. There's some

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Speaker 1: business to attend to the next week or so. The

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Speaker 1: franchise tag deadline coming up in free agency begintting the

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Speaker 1: start of the league year. That aside, that's gonna determine

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Speaker 1: what it can happen at number one. I get it.

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Speaker 1: Are you apt to go O line or D line

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Speaker 1: at number one? I want to go O line, And

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Speaker 1: there's some great options. Evan Neil's really talented, even Kim

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Speaker 1: and Kawana who yesterday it was like, I wouldn't be

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Speaker 1: surprised us that everyone pick him, Like, yeah, man, I

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Speaker 1: wouldn't be surprised either. You know, it's really really good

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Speaker 1: offensive line, and I think when you think about protecting

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Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence making this offense better, they showed some flashes

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Speaker 1: at times even the last season. Right, You're bringing in

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Speaker 1: Mike McCoy as a quarterbacks coach, I think is a

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Speaker 1: great mix with with Trevor. We just gotta get a

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Speaker 1: good old line going and I think there's enough defensive

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Speaker 1: prospects later that they could grab somebody there to fortify

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Speaker 1: some needs on that side of the ball. But I

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Speaker 1: would go O line then again, like even as I

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Speaker 1: say it, I'm like, wait, you're gonna pass on Aidan

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Speaker 1: Hutchinson and cabe On Thibodeaux and some of these absolutely

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Speaker 1: incredible freaks of nature on that side of the ball.

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Speaker 1: But um, I think it's so need based and and

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Speaker 1: if that continues to be such a strong need, they

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Speaker 1: should get it at that number one. Pick more of

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Speaker 1: the conversation with Laura Rettligi and Ryan Clark later next

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Speaker 1: week on Jaguars dot Com. Let's wrap this week with

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Speaker 1: CBS Sports and NFL Network analyst Charles Davis. He sat

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Speaker 1: down with Ashelan Sullivan and John Osier earlier this week

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Speaker 1: on Radio Row. Although I'm extremely bullish on Doug Peterson,

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Speaker 1: I do think there's more talent Jacksonville that people give

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Speaker 1: credit for. Now you just have to harness it and

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Speaker 1: turn these kids loose, because I think last year really

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Speaker 1: hurt them psyche wise because of everything they went through.

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Speaker 1: But they have anything that makes success early you can have.

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Speaker 1: You can have a nice little leap out of this team.

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Speaker 1: I really believe that. The full conversation with Charles Davis

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Speaker 1: available on Jaguars dot com. That's it from Indianapolis. Full

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Speaker 1: coverage from the NFL Scott A combine available on the

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Speaker 1: team website and team social media channels. Enjoy the weekend

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