WEBVTT - Q&A Meets World! Part 1 0:00:18.000 --> 0:00:21.120 So we've alluded to this like once or twice, but 0:00:21.239 --> 0:00:24.160 I just wanted to get this story out there if 0:00:24.239 --> 0:00:26.599 if you're willing to talk about it, Will, because this 0:00:26.680 --> 0:00:29.680 is your story. Oh gosh, Will's already nervous. Well, no, 0:00:29.840 --> 0:00:35.840 this is you for you sold a script to Disney 0:00:35.840 --> 0:00:38.360 while we were on Boy Meets World. You sold a 0:00:38.440 --> 0:00:40.320 pitch and you were like, at the time, like the 0:00:40.440 --> 0:00:43.600 youngest screenwriter to have sold a studio, Like, what is 0:00:43.640 --> 0:00:46.000 that story? It's just I just want to talk about this. 0:00:46.040 --> 0:00:48.120 This is what you were doing in Amsterdam. It was 0:00:49.000 --> 0:00:50.839 time that you were writing the screenplay. It was a 0:00:50.840 --> 0:00:53.320 Winnie the Pooh script, but you had this idea and 0:00:53.400 --> 0:00:56.600 you sold it. Yeah. I had an idea for for 0:00:57.080 --> 0:01:01.600 a a live action animation the Pooh and so this 0:01:01.680 --> 0:01:05.240 was nineteen ninety eight, nineteen ninety seven. So I had 0:01:05.280 --> 0:01:07.360 my agent called Disney and I set up a pitch 0:01:07.360 --> 0:01:09.160 and I went in and I pitched, which I still 0:01:09.160 --> 0:01:12.160 think was as an amazing idea. It was Christopher Robbin 0:01:12.319 --> 0:01:15.080 is now eighteen. His parents put him in therapy because 0:01:15.080 --> 0:01:18.119 he was talking to imaginary you know, animals. They moved 0:01:18.200 --> 0:01:19.880 him away from the hundred acre would he now is 0:01:19.880 --> 0:01:23.120 growing up in America. Meanwhile, the hundred Acre Would is 0:01:23.120 --> 0:01:25.399 bought by a corporation and is going to be destroyed 0:01:25.440 --> 0:01:30.279 an animated Whinney like an environmentalist, and then animated Whinney 0:01:30.280 --> 0:01:32.279 and Tiggers show up at the foot of Christopher Robbin's 0:01:32.360 --> 0:01:35.080 bed one morning as he's pledging a fraternity and so 0:01:35.440 --> 0:01:38.640 he you know, he's at college and now these characters 0:01:38.640 --> 0:01:40.840 are back into his life and he essentially they and 0:01:40.880 --> 0:01:43.520 they need his help to save Ragoon, him into going 0:01:43.560 --> 0:01:47.000 back to saving the hundred Acre Would. And he's trying 0:01:47.040 --> 0:01:49.360 to have for us that they exist because and so 0:01:49.440 --> 0:01:53.360 he were the hallucinations from his childhood exactly. And so 0:01:53.400 --> 0:01:56.200 I went to Amsterdam to write it and then they 0:01:56.360 --> 0:01:59.040 really liked the script and they had me. They hired 0:01:59.080 --> 0:02:02.280 me to rewrite it um and I did that and 0:02:02.320 --> 0:02:04.120 then they sat it on a shelf and they said, 0:02:04.280 --> 0:02:08.960 are you nineteen, yeah, twenty years old and they and 0:02:09.040 --> 0:02:11.200 they said, no, we're in this this fight with a 0:02:11.280 --> 0:02:13.840 eight millions company right now who created Winnie the Pooh, 0:02:13.919 --> 0:02:15.840 So we can't you know, we can't really do anything. 0:02:16.320 --> 0:02:19.680 And then I found out years later they did it 0:02:19.720 --> 0:02:22.440 with you know, they they changed it around they gave 0:02:22.440 --> 0:02:24.400 it to a whole bunch of different writers, and then 0:02:24.440 --> 0:02:27.760 they threw you and McGregor in it. And the Writers 0:02:27.760 --> 0:02:29.720 Guild essentially said to me when I said, look, I've 0:02:29.760 --> 0:02:33.320 got I mean the contract literally says nineteen ninety seven 0:02:33.639 --> 0:02:38.800 live action animation Christopher Robin movie. Right, um, and WJA 0:02:38.960 --> 0:02:41.560 was like, look, we know your genesis. We can tell 0:02:41.639 --> 0:02:44.080 your genesis, but it's gone through so many hands now 0:02:44.120 --> 0:02:45.960 that there's really nothing we can do about it, right, 0:02:46.000 --> 0:02:49.160 which is what happens with studio films that yet real credit. 0:02:49.240 --> 0:02:52.959 There's probably been like twenty writing teams on different the 0:02:53.000 --> 0:02:55.520 Pooh movies. So what ended up in the Christopher? Did 0:02:55.560 --> 0:02:59.800 you see the finished film? No? I refused, No, absolutely absolutely, 0:03:00.120 --> 0:03:02.680 because that was like, that was my first screenplay. That 0:03:02.720 --> 0:03:04.720 was the first thing that I'd written and sold, So 0:03:04.800 --> 0:03:06.600 that was that was an important one to me and 0:03:06.639 --> 0:03:08.799 to just be like, yeah, hey, thanks kid. I mean 0:03:08.800 --> 0:03:13.280 to the point where apparently the WGA representative called Disney 0:03:13.400 --> 0:03:16.160 and said, hey, I'm calling on behalf of Wilfridell and 0:03:16.240 --> 0:03:18.840 before she finished my name, the woman said, oh no, 0:03:18.919 --> 0:03:25.040 his project was totally different, and they went, ohkay, So 0:03:25.200 --> 0:03:26.919 it was you know, they did their due diligence, and 0:03:26.960 --> 0:03:28.519 there was a big lawsuit around the thing where there's 0:03:28.520 --> 0:03:30.120 a bunch of writing teams that said that they had 0:03:30.120 --> 0:03:32.639 done it. But I defy somebody to come up with 0:03:32.680 --> 0:03:35.840 a contract that would predated nineteen ninety seven. Now, you 0:03:35.920 --> 0:03:38.800 said that you called your agent, but I remember Jeff 0:03:38.880 --> 0:03:42.040 McCracken figured prominently in helping you set up the pitch. 0:03:42.360 --> 0:03:45.640 Did he may? I feel like you mentioned it while 0:03:45.680 --> 0:03:48.640 we were on set, because for people who don't know, 0:03:48.720 --> 0:03:51.960 Wilfridell is the king of genius movie ideas, like five 0:03:52.000 --> 0:03:53.760 times a day he just will be like, yeah, you 0:03:53.760 --> 0:03:55.640 know what we need and he'll say a moving You're like, 0:03:55.680 --> 0:03:57.840 well that needs to be made, like you should be 0:03:57.920 --> 0:04:00.600 running the studio. And so you had that moment with 0:04:00.640 --> 0:04:02.480 this Winnie the Poop pitch, and I think it was 0:04:02.520 --> 0:04:05.240 Jeff mccrackin that was like, we need to get someone 0:04:05.240 --> 0:04:07.680 on the phone, and you got on the phone. He 0:04:08.240 --> 0:04:10.839 did a speaker call during lunch at Boy Meat's World, 0:04:10.840 --> 0:04:14.040 this is what I remember, and got somebody higher up 0:04:14.040 --> 0:04:17.440 at Disney and said I would just want to hear you, 0:04:17.560 --> 0:04:19.479 hear what Will has to say, And you gave like 0:04:19.520 --> 0:04:22.440 a two sentence pitch and the person paused and was like, yeah, 0:04:22.440 --> 0:04:24.120 we got to hear that full pitch, and then you 0:04:24.160 --> 0:04:25.720 went in and had your full pitch. But it was 0:04:25.760 --> 0:04:32.680 because McCracken just heard. McCracken was so supportive of anything 0:04:32.760 --> 0:04:34.960 artistic that we wanted in anything in our lives. But 0:04:35.040 --> 0:04:38.080 super artist. I mean Jeff McCracken at one And I 0:04:38.120 --> 0:04:39.400 was going to tell this story when he got on 0:04:39.400 --> 0:04:42.600 the podcast, but hopefully he'll come on. But at one 0:04:42.600 --> 0:04:45.040 point the network insisted that I cut my hair. I 0:04:45.080 --> 0:04:47.760 was growing really long hair and it really upset me, 0:04:47.839 --> 0:04:49.520 and I went and they cut my hair off, and 0:04:49.560 --> 0:04:51.600 the next day he had long hair. The next day 0:04:51.640 --> 0:04:53.320 he came in with short hair that was all raggled. 0:04:53.440 --> 0:04:57.520 He cut his own hair that night in his house 0:04:57.640 --> 0:05:00.280 to support me having to cut my hair. That's the 0:05:00.360 --> 0:05:02.279 kind of man this guy is. So I do not 0:05:02.440 --> 0:05:05.240 doubt at all that Jeff McCracken did something like that. 0:05:05.320 --> 0:05:07.880 Don't doubt that at all. Yeah, he's still he still 0:05:07.920 --> 0:05:10.240 reaches out to help me in my career and my person. 0:05:10.520 --> 0:05:15.000 He's a beautiful man. He's just one of those giving yes, incredible, Well, 0:05:15.040 --> 0:05:17.440 you guys will be pleased to know we have him booked. 0:05:17.640 --> 0:05:20.440 He will be coming on the pod. It's going to 0:05:20.480 --> 0:05:22.920 be us gushing for two hours. I know. It's literally 0:05:22.920 --> 0:05:25.120 going to be the longest episode we've ever done. It'll 0:05:25.120 --> 0:05:27.160 be season three when he comes in because you know 0:05:27.279 --> 0:05:29.320 too much. And then we are just going to need 0:05:29.360 --> 0:05:31.680 a full hour of us just telling him how much 0:05:31.680 --> 0:05:35.360 we love him. Um. So, welcome to pod Meet's World. 0:05:35.400 --> 0:05:39.719 I'm Daniel Fishel, I'm Writer Strong, and I'm Wilfredale. Guys, 0:05:39.760 --> 0:05:41.839 this is a this is a Q and A episode. 0:05:41.960 --> 0:05:43.800 It's going to be really fun. You guys send us 0:05:43.839 --> 0:05:47.320 so many amazing emails. We get thousands of questions from listeners. 0:05:47.440 --> 0:05:51.480 We appreciate every single one, and we have pulled some 0:05:51.880 --> 0:05:54.880 for another special Q and A episode, and only I 0:05:54.920 --> 0:05:57.160 have seen them in advance. So Will and Writer are 0:05:57.160 --> 0:06:00.680 going in blind and uh. But something totally unrelated that 0:06:00.720 --> 0:06:03.279 I have been forgetting to say in every single episode 0:06:03.400 --> 0:06:06.480 is that my hair care company be free by Daniel Fishel. 0:06:06.680 --> 0:06:09.000 I have created a coupon code for you guys, just 0:06:09.080 --> 0:06:11.920 for you Pod Meets World listeners. You can use code 0:06:12.120 --> 0:06:16.159 PMW for Pod Meats World PMW and get fifteen percent 0:06:16.160 --> 0:06:18.520 off anything on the site. So I'm just gonna I'm 0:06:18.520 --> 0:06:20.520 throwing that in. I made it for you a long 0:06:20.560 --> 0:06:23.359 time ago and then just never told anyone. So important 0:06:23.760 --> 0:06:26.440 important part of the sales team is to have people 0:06:26.480 --> 0:06:29.400 know that why has nobody used this coupon? Ye I'm 0:06:29.440 --> 0:06:33.960 a really good businesswoman. I create coupons and then don't 0:06:33.960 --> 0:06:37.480 give them to anybody. So I need more condition Okay, 0:06:37.600 --> 0:06:40.200 I will. I don't give it to them for free, 0:06:40.480 --> 0:06:43.160 make them pay. Now that I have your code, I 0:06:43.200 --> 0:06:45.760 was waiting for sale. Now I'll send you all the 0:06:45.760 --> 0:06:49.120 conditioner you want, okay. Um. Also, we wanted to let 0:06:49.120 --> 0:06:51.440 you guys know we are going to be in Chicago 0:06:51.680 --> 0:06:55.320 March thirty first through April second at C two E two. 0:06:55.480 --> 0:06:58.320 I'm really looking forward to it. We're going to be 0:06:58.440 --> 0:07:03.279 joined by Trina McGee and mister Bill Daniels and Miss 0:07:03.640 --> 0:07:07.839 Bonnie Bartlett. So that just let a Phoenie call escape. 0:07:07.839 --> 0:07:09.760 I know you felt it right, I was gonna do 0:07:09.840 --> 0:07:12.520 it for you. Totally felt it. It almost passed my lips. 0:07:12.600 --> 0:07:15.200 I was like, well I choke that one right by. 0:07:15.760 --> 0:07:22.600 Maybe I do it. Wow? Amazing. So that'll be really fun. 0:07:22.680 --> 0:07:24.360 If you guys don't have your tickets yet, please get 0:07:24.400 --> 0:07:25.840 them join us. It's actually going to be a little 0:07:25.840 --> 0:07:29.080 family trip for us. Writer, your family's going, yeah, will 0:07:29.560 --> 0:07:32.640 Sue is going. Sue's going as well, and hopefully we 0:07:32.800 --> 0:07:37.160 are going to while we're there. Oh, we are definitely 0:07:37.400 --> 0:07:41.400 right right, I'm so excited about C two E two, 0:07:41.480 --> 0:07:43.400 but I want to go to I know, I'm mostly 0:07:43.400 --> 0:07:45.520 excited about Eddievics. We have not reached out to them 0:07:45.560 --> 0:07:47.840 about planning that, so we should. We should actually do that, 0:07:47.920 --> 0:07:51.040 and we need to reserve a table. Yes, okay, I'll 0:07:51.080 --> 0:07:54.040 reach out to them. Um. Producer Jensen car, husband of 0:07:54.080 --> 0:07:55.840 this podcast, is also coming with me. So we're going 0:07:55.880 --> 0:07:57.640 to have a little family trip and I can't wait. 0:07:57.800 --> 0:07:59.640 And we're gonna see Tony Quinn while we're there as well. 0:07:59.720 --> 0:08:14.680 Yes we are maybe, Oh yeah that'd be great. All right, great, okay, 0:08:14.840 --> 0:08:17.560 So our first question, I thought this was very fun. 0:08:18.160 --> 0:08:21.320 Did you guys get paid for Team Beat type magazine shoots? 0:08:21.840 --> 0:08:24.480 And then related to that, how many shoots did you 0:08:24.600 --> 0:08:28.320 do and were they fun? Writer, go for it. No, 0:08:28.680 --> 0:08:32.199 we never got paid. It was kind of a racket 0:08:32.320 --> 0:08:34.360 and it wasn't until I was older that I realized 0:08:34.679 --> 0:08:38.520 how much free content we provided for these magazines. Yeah, 0:08:38.520 --> 0:08:41.280 they would. Typically what would happen is you would you 0:08:41.280 --> 0:08:43.480 would get a call or somebody would get a call. 0:08:43.480 --> 0:08:45.240 I guess my manager would get a call being like 0:08:46.120 --> 0:08:48.559 some magazine wants to do a photo shoot with writer. 0:08:49.160 --> 0:08:52.079 And what that usually meant is that you would get 0:08:52.160 --> 0:08:55.680 some free clothing um or like there was a sense 0:08:55.760 --> 0:08:58.000 that like or it was just free publicity. It was like, 0:08:58.360 --> 0:09:00.240 you know, so for a couple years, or if for 0:09:00.240 --> 0:09:02.319 at least like one year or the first first year 0:09:02.400 --> 0:09:04.720 or the show, I would just show up because somebody 0:09:04.760 --> 0:09:07.920 would tell me to and they would get they would 0:09:07.920 --> 0:09:12.160 do an entire day of photoshoots with you know, different outfits, 0:09:12.280 --> 0:09:14.760 different backgrounds. And then it wasn't until I was like 0:09:15.080 --> 0:09:17.440 fifteen or sixteen, I think that somebody realized, like Wright 0:09:17.520 --> 0:09:20.240 or you maybe just don't do that right if you, 0:09:20.240 --> 0:09:22.080 because I didn't, you know, I just showed up wherever 0:09:22.200 --> 0:09:23.880 and did them. And then it was like, oh, I'm 0:09:23.920 --> 0:09:27.400 getting like sort of pigeonholed as this like teen idle 0:09:27.720 --> 0:09:30.199 honk thing that doesn't have anything to do with my 0:09:30.280 --> 0:09:32.560 acting career, in fact kind of hurts my acting career. 0:09:33.520 --> 0:09:36.480 And so then it was like, you know, I stopped 0:09:36.520 --> 0:09:38.880 doing them right around when I was like fifteen or sixteen, 0:09:39.240 --> 0:09:42.440 but yeah, it's weird. We would get free stuff. Yeah, 0:09:43.679 --> 0:09:45.439 you get to keep your clothes that you try on 0:09:45.520 --> 0:09:47.520 that day because clothing companies would want us to be 0:09:47.640 --> 0:09:50.360 wearing them, so they would provide for the magazines. So 0:09:50.400 --> 0:09:52.920 the magazines would pay for the photographer and they would 0:09:52.960 --> 0:09:55.240 get free clothing and free talent for the day. Right, 0:09:55.440 --> 0:09:58.319 And then we would do like you said, there'd be 0:09:58.360 --> 0:10:00.079 a whole day and there would be a bunch of 0:10:00.480 --> 0:10:03.560 like we'd they'd have a snowboard there and they would 0:10:03.640 --> 0:10:05.880 drop snow or do something snow related. And then you 0:10:05.880 --> 0:10:08.520 would use those pictures in November, and then there'd be 0:10:08.600 --> 0:10:10.880 like some sort of Christmas thing and they'd use you'd 0:10:10.920 --> 0:10:13.760 hold a cupcake for around your birthday. Um, and so 0:10:13.960 --> 0:10:16.160 in that one day, you'd go through like the season 0:10:16.400 --> 0:10:19.280 of photos and then they would use them. Yeah, and 0:10:19.360 --> 0:10:21.440 then sometimes they would do events like remember we would 0:10:21.920 --> 0:10:26.320 they would do like a snowboarding day at yeah Big Bear, right, 0:10:26.400 --> 0:10:28.559 or paintballing, and so they would invite us to do that, 0:10:28.600 --> 0:10:30.199 and we would want to do it because it'd be fun, 0:10:30.440 --> 0:10:32.840 cool kid things to do. And then they would get 0:10:32.840 --> 0:10:35.520 a bunch of photographs out of it, and so everybody 0:10:35.520 --> 0:10:38.080 would sort of win. I guess, um, I got paid, 0:10:39.280 --> 0:10:42.640 I paid, I got paid. Well, oh my gosh. I 0:10:42.720 --> 0:10:45.520 wouldn't necessarily say they were fun. Some people had more 0:10:45.559 --> 0:10:48.479 fun than others, Like I never I always enjoyed photoshoots. 0:10:48.520 --> 0:10:50.679 I thought they were kind of fun. Um. But I 0:10:50.760 --> 0:10:54.080 think writer probably thought it was a true nightmare. Yeah, yeah, 0:10:54.240 --> 0:10:56.520 that wasn't I mean, eventually, at first, I remember being 0:10:56.640 --> 0:10:58.880 very stoked to be interviewed and like yeah, I just 0:10:59.000 --> 0:11:00.559 thought like, oh, it's cool to this is what being 0:11:00.960 --> 0:11:03.800 an actor means. People wanted, you know. And then when 0:11:03.840 --> 0:11:07.439 it started to feel like I was being used and 0:11:07.520 --> 0:11:08.880 it started to feel like I was, I don't know, 0:11:08.920 --> 0:11:10.559 it just it just made me uncomfortable, Like once I 0:11:10.600 --> 0:11:12.839 started to feel like, oh, I don't I don't want 0:11:12.880 --> 0:11:15.360 posters of me on the wall like I'd like to 0:11:15.400 --> 0:11:17.199 talk about acting or I don't know, it was just 0:11:17.280 --> 0:11:19.800 always it made me. Also, the social media of our day, 0:11:20.000 --> 0:11:22.439 that's what you had you That's how you got the 0:11:22.480 --> 0:11:24.600 word out and you know, hey, this is the new 0:11:24.679 --> 0:11:26.880 hot guy. And it was whether it was Jonathan Taylor 0:11:26.960 --> 0:11:29.319 Thomas or Jonathan Brandis, or there was and then it 0:11:29.400 --> 0:11:31.520 was you. I mean, there was always like a bunch 0:11:31.559 --> 0:11:33.199 of people that they were the it thing for a 0:11:33.240 --> 0:11:34.959 little while, and then it was like, now here's the 0:11:35.000 --> 0:11:38.319 new it thing. And it felt very distinct from like 0:11:38.760 --> 0:11:41.160 other types of fame, you know what I mean, Like, yeah, 0:11:42.040 --> 0:11:44.839 in a way, it felt very niche Yeah, like it 0:11:44.920 --> 0:11:48.560 didn't it didn't translate to work, you know what I mean. 0:11:48.600 --> 0:11:51.040 Like it wasn't like because I was in these teen magazines. 0:11:51.080 --> 0:11:52.959 If anything, I feel like it made it harder to 0:11:53.080 --> 0:11:56.160 get movie jobs. You know, already being on television made 0:11:56.200 --> 0:11:59.240 it almost impossible to get movie jobs, but certainly uh 0:11:59.400 --> 0:12:01.760 doing it being a teen magazine person, Like it didn't 0:12:01.760 --> 0:12:04.079 translate to to work, you know, because I mean you 0:12:04.120 --> 0:12:07.120 look at somebody like I mean Jonathan Taylor Thomas was 0:12:07.440 --> 0:12:09.439 working constantly because he was on Home Improvement, but like 0:12:09.800 --> 0:12:13.320 somebody like Jonathan Brandis was the king of those teen 0:12:13.400 --> 0:12:17.240 magazines but did not work now, like could not get work, 0:12:17.400 --> 0:12:20.920 like it was a struggling actor throughout his entire teens, 0:12:21.120 --> 0:12:23.439 and there was always this weird sense of like this 0:12:23.600 --> 0:12:26.160 does not equal the same thing, you know, Like Andrew 0:12:26.280 --> 0:12:28.360 Keegan was all in these teen magazines, but it actually 0:12:28.440 --> 0:12:31.720 wasn't on consistently on a show those into all those years. 0:12:31.880 --> 0:12:35.560 It's interesting. It was just a weird dynamic, YEA. Our 0:12:35.640 --> 0:12:39.440 next question is how much did guest cast members usually 0:12:39.520 --> 0:12:42.360 get paid? Was it per episode, per line? How about 0:12:42.400 --> 0:12:46.120 the background actors? So I'll go ahead and answer this one, 0:12:46.240 --> 0:12:50.560 that guest guest actors negotiated their own salaries. They sometimes, 0:12:50.600 --> 0:12:53.160 I'm sure there was just whatever scale was. Can we 0:12:53.240 --> 0:12:55.720 talk about all that was? I think everybody only got 0:12:55.760 --> 0:12:57.599 scaled on those kinds of shows. You don't negotiate it. 0:12:57.600 --> 0:13:00.679 I mean, unless you think Phyllis Diller. Still, That's what 0:13:00.720 --> 0:13:02.880 I'm saying. So you know, your average guest star just 0:13:03.040 --> 0:13:06.160 gets paid. Maybe even Daniel Harris got more than just yeah, 0:13:06.240 --> 0:13:08.839 that's possible too. Oh maybe that's true. Maybe she was 0:13:08.840 --> 0:13:11.320 a big amount. So there's a thing called scale, which 0:13:11.440 --> 0:13:15.080 is like what the unions determine is the base pay 0:13:15.200 --> 0:13:18.360 rate that you're allowed to make to do a union project. 0:13:18.800 --> 0:13:21.559 And so usually what offers our scale plus ten scale 0:13:21.600 --> 0:13:23.920 plus ten percent, and that ten percent is to cover 0:13:24.120 --> 0:13:26.760 the cost of your agent fee, so that you you 0:13:27.480 --> 0:13:30.480 get scale, which is the full dollar amount I don't 0:13:30.520 --> 0:13:33.760 remember what scale was back in the day. I've no memory. 0:13:34.000 --> 0:13:36.880 And there's a difference between one day guest star, every 0:13:36.960 --> 0:13:39.760 day guest guest star. Right, how many lines you have. 0:13:40.080 --> 0:13:42.439 There's also that there's like the under five rule. I 0:13:42.480 --> 0:13:44.320 think you can have up to five lines. So if 0:13:44.320 --> 0:13:47.040 you're curious, you can go to SAG's website. You'll probably 0:13:47.080 --> 0:13:50.040 find these contracts exactly. There are the contracts on the 0:13:50.160 --> 0:13:52.400 SAG websites that you can figure it out. I don't 0:13:52.440 --> 0:13:54.320 remember what they were back in the day, and it's 0:13:54.360 --> 0:13:56.680 not usually like paid per line. But like Will said, 0:13:56.720 --> 0:13:59.600 there are different scale rates based on whether you're working one, 0:13:59.679 --> 0:14:02.240 three or five days. Um. But yeah, so you could 0:14:02.240 --> 0:14:05.319 put many star versus a guest star. Like you know, 0:14:05.400 --> 0:14:08.960 there's a right and the background actors. If I'm not mistaken, 0:14:09.120 --> 0:14:12.480 it was like a hundred a day that sounds about right, 0:14:12.559 --> 0:14:14.560 or maybe one hundred and fifty. Yeah, somewhere between one 0:14:14.640 --> 0:14:18.160 hundred just today, right, and you were there for as 0:14:18.240 --> 0:14:21.200 many hours as they kept you around. If that was fourteen, 0:14:21.560 --> 0:14:24.120 fine it was. And heard when we talked to some 0:14:24.160 --> 0:14:26.120 of our background actors they'd be on four or five shows. 0:14:26.160 --> 0:14:28.440 So hopefully maybe you know because they'd only be on 0:14:28.560 --> 0:14:31.320 Boy two days, right for blocking and tape days, so 0:14:31.440 --> 0:14:33.800 you're hoping that there's the other days they're on other 0:14:33.840 --> 0:14:35.840 shows doing the same thing. So hopefully they're working five 0:14:35.880 --> 0:14:37.600 six days a week at one hundred dollars a day. 0:14:37.640 --> 0:14:39.760 But it's still Yeah, but the main point of being 0:14:39.800 --> 0:14:44.240 a background extras to get hip hopefully, you know, which 0:14:44.640 --> 0:14:47.120 wasn't true necessarily for the first couple of seasons of 0:14:47.520 --> 0:14:50.000 Boy because there was two unions back then. There was 0:14:50.000 --> 0:14:52.040 a screen Extras Guild in the Screen Actors Guild. They 0:14:52.160 --> 0:14:55.160 merged right near the end of Boy Mute World, but 0:14:55.280 --> 0:14:57.440 so yeah, but you would still still getting into a 0:14:57.720 --> 0:15:00.480 guild was really helpful. And then just expos sure, right, 0:15:00.520 --> 0:15:02.080 like to just be in on set and seeing how 0:15:02.160 --> 0:15:05.120 things worked and understanding you know, that was just an opportunity. Yeah, 0:15:05.280 --> 0:15:07.080 I mean, Adam Scott was an extra. There's a lot 0:15:07.080 --> 0:15:08.640 of a lot of people that were background actors that 0:15:08.680 --> 0:15:10.480 have made the transition, so it's it can be a 0:15:10.520 --> 0:15:14.920 great gig. Another question we got is what other podcasts 0:15:15.040 --> 0:15:21.360 do you guys love? Wow? Okay, great answers. I have 0:15:21.400 --> 0:15:23.840 a bunch, I have a bunch bunch, uh, and so 0:15:24.000 --> 0:15:27.400 I I love Myths and Legends. It's a great podcast, 0:15:27.640 --> 0:15:31.600 um where they take you know, retail myths and legends. 0:15:31.640 --> 0:15:35.520 Imagine that. Um, it's a great one. Um, I really 0:15:36.000 --> 0:15:40.120 it's it's it's it's a like slightly snarky, sarcastic take 0:15:40.240 --> 0:15:42.400 on actual myths and you get a little bit of 0:15:42.440 --> 0:15:44.880 the backstory. But he's done like episodes. It's it's a 0:15:44.960 --> 0:15:47.840 husband and wife team. Um. And they've done episodes about 0:15:47.880 --> 0:15:50.560 like King Arthur, like hundred episodes about King Arthur. You 0:15:50.560 --> 0:15:53.120 can do all the Greek. It's so great. So it's 0:15:53.600 --> 0:15:58.120 very very educational and entertaining. Um. Let's see. I listened 0:15:58.160 --> 0:16:00.960 to Hello from the Magic Tavern, which is an improv 0:16:01.200 --> 0:16:02.920 Oh my god, I love it so much. It's an 0:16:02.960 --> 0:16:07.680 improv show where the conceit of the show is that 0:16:07.800 --> 0:16:11.240 somebody has been sucked into a Lord of the Rings 0:16:11.480 --> 0:16:15.120 like fantasy World, but with his podcasting equipment, Like he 0:16:15.280 --> 0:16:17.800 was in the back of a Chicago of a McDonald's 0:16:17.800 --> 0:16:20.880 in Chicago or Burger King in Chicago and fell through 0:16:20.920 --> 0:16:23.400 a portal and ended up in this land. So every 0:16:23.480 --> 0:16:26.080 week they bring on it's him and a wizard and 0:16:26.160 --> 0:16:29.240 a shape shifting badger and every and they're just improv 0:16:29.280 --> 0:16:31.440 actors and then they bring on somebody and that person 0:16:31.560 --> 0:16:34.920 shows up with a character like I am a dragon 0:16:35.160 --> 0:16:37.840 who's a teenager or whatever, and then they just improv 0:16:37.920 --> 0:16:39.720 and have an interview with that dragon and they have 0:16:39.760 --> 0:16:42.240 to just roll with whatever the person brings, whatever they say, 0:16:42.400 --> 0:16:44.840 and it is so fun. And would you go on 0:16:44.960 --> 0:16:47.560 that show? No, I'm not a good improver, man, I 0:16:47.600 --> 0:16:53.400 wouldn't know. That sounds like, yeah, No, they have incredible guests. 0:16:53.400 --> 0:16:55.840 I mean they've gotten everybody a huge comedy star. It's 0:16:55.880 --> 0:16:57.320 I mean, at this point, it's like eight years old. 0:16:57.360 --> 0:16:59.200 I've been listening to since the beginning. I remember, it's 0:16:59.200 --> 0:17:02.280 gotten crazy. I used to have like more developing storylines 0:17:02.320 --> 0:17:04.160 and now it's back to more of just a fun 0:17:04.240 --> 0:17:07.719 interview show. But man, it's it's so so clever. Um 0:17:07.960 --> 0:17:10.320 what else I listened to a lot? What about you? 0:17:10.880 --> 0:17:13.320 I'm I don't listen to a ton, but the ones 0:17:13.359 --> 0:17:15.119 that I do, like, I listen to my Mash Matters 0:17:15.160 --> 0:17:17.440 because you know, obviously big into the Mash world. And 0:17:17.560 --> 0:17:19.480 I listened to you SNAPf Foo with ed Helms, which 0:17:19.560 --> 0:17:24.200 is also on I Hurt, I hurt, But yeah, Snapfoo. 0:17:24.400 --> 0:17:28.120 It takes one, uh you know, mess up in history 0:17:28.359 --> 0:17:31.879 and talks about it for eight episodes. So the you know, 0:17:31.960 --> 0:17:36.000 the idea of the movie War Games actually happened in 0:17:36.080 --> 0:17:39.000 the United States. Uh And so it's kind of ed 0:17:39.040 --> 0:17:41.199 helms breaking down and it happens very entertaining. But now 0:17:41.200 --> 0:17:43.399 I'm getting more and more into kind of podcasts and 0:17:43.440 --> 0:17:55.280 stuff like that. Um are you now? Are Can we 0:17:55.359 --> 0:17:57.680 ask you the same questions, Danielle, are you since you've 0:17:57.720 --> 0:18:00.399 seen these questions? Do you have any any podcast that 0:18:00.440 --> 0:18:04.320 you listen to? Yes? I love SmartLess. I don't get 0:18:04.359 --> 0:18:05.720 to listen to it as often as I'd like, but 0:18:05.800 --> 0:18:08.320 I love SmartLess. Um and I listened to We Can 0:18:08.359 --> 0:18:11.360 Do Hard Things with Glenn and Doyle and her wife 0:18:11.440 --> 0:18:17.040 Abby Womba and dear sister Amanda, who so yeah, I 0:18:17.119 --> 0:18:21.640 love love that podcast. That's Those would probably be the two. 0:18:21.680 --> 0:18:22.840 And then I don't know if you've ever heard of 0:18:22.880 --> 0:18:25.000 a show called pod Meats World, but boy do I 0:18:25.320 --> 0:18:27.040 love it. I can't. I can't get through it. Like 0:18:27.200 --> 0:18:32.679 the hosts just constantly talk over each other. It does 0:18:32.760 --> 0:18:35.119 seem like they love to hear themselves talk. But I 0:18:35.240 --> 0:18:37.960 find them all endlessly enjoyable. I noticed none of you 0:18:38.040 --> 0:18:39.720 have mentioned I hear voices. It's nice to know that 0:18:39.760 --> 0:18:41.800 you also listen to my other podcasts, thanks so much. 0:18:42.400 --> 0:18:44.760 And Literary Disco is another. I'm a big fan of 0:18:44.840 --> 0:18:47.320 that as well. We didn't mention her other podcasts at all, 0:18:47.400 --> 0:18:50.600 where it's like nobody's fans of each other's other podcasts. 0:18:52.080 --> 0:18:57.960 We're nothing if not honest. Okay, So I thought this 0:18:58.119 --> 0:18:59.680 was interesting because I feel like we've done it a 0:18:59.720 --> 0:19:01.880 little but but maybe we haven't explained it well enough. 0:19:02.600 --> 0:19:06.280 People want to know how our sets worked while filming, 0:19:06.520 --> 0:19:08.920 like in front of the audience. People are a little confused, 0:19:09.000 --> 0:19:11.560 like did the different sets move? Could we move them? 0:19:12.160 --> 0:19:14.440 So let's explain it because I guess when you watch 0:19:14.520 --> 0:19:18.399 like some SNL stuff, they actually are moving sets, all right, Yeah? No, 0:19:18.600 --> 0:19:21.439 we we had standing sets, like, yes, they were built 0:19:21.960 --> 0:19:25.400 before the audience ever arrived, days before, and they would 0:19:25.520 --> 0:19:27.560 be standing there, and for the most part, we use 0:19:27.640 --> 0:19:30.280 the same sets over and over, So the audience would 0:19:30.280 --> 0:19:33.040 be in bleachers that would sort of rise up from 0:19:33.119 --> 0:19:37.600 the stage floor like maybe ten rows of bleachers, like 0:19:37.720 --> 0:19:40.560 a like a high school auditorium bleacher set, and then 0:19:40.600 --> 0:19:44.040 in front of those bleachers, there would be the camera 0:19:44.200 --> 0:19:46.960 area what is that called, like the camerayle camerale there 0:19:47.040 --> 0:19:48.399 you go the aisle right, so it would be like 0:19:48.480 --> 0:19:51.280 about ten feet between the audience where they and the 0:19:51.359 --> 0:19:55.280 sets where the cameras would be on these giant rolling 0:19:55.840 --> 0:19:57.560 you know, the cameras are on wheels, so they can 0:19:57.600 --> 0:20:01.560 move into position and constantly be adjusting, and they can 0:20:01.600 --> 0:20:05.520