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Speaker 1: This is Straight Fire with Jason McIntyre. What is up

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Speaker 1: Straight from Fire, fam, It's me Jason McIntyre, Straight Fire

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Speaker 1: from Monday, November. It's been a minute. I think this

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Speaker 1: is one of the longest breaks I've taken since Rob

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Speaker 1: think it was Hawaii last summer. Maybe this summer. I

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Speaker 1: don't even remember. But I hope everybody had a tremendous Thanksgiving.

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Speaker 1: Ours was very fun and eventful. Brought our dog out

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Speaker 1: to the desert, a lot of fun Thanksgiving Shenanigans and

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Speaker 1: a lot of World Cup intake. And then and I'm

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Speaker 1: sure I'll take some heat for this, but you know,

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Speaker 1: the family left early Wednesday. I had to work at

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Speaker 1: the herd and then so I drove. We we drove

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Speaker 1: And the beauty of it is on the drive back,

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Speaker 1: the road. And also listen to the World Cup Croatia

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Speaker 1: Canada tough result for Canada with on the Canadians making

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Speaker 1: a run. They're out of having lost two matches. But

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Speaker 1: it's like this the last four days, folks. When you

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Speaker 1: look at Thursday, well, I mean, we're this podcast is

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Speaker 1: gonna be so slammed today with stuff. We're not even

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Speaker 1: gonna get to the Thanksgiving games. By the way, Giants,

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Speaker 1: how about that backdoor cover by Danny Dimes Vikings come through.

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Speaker 1: This was a great, great gambling weekend for me. Sunday

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Speaker 1: what I might have been my best NFL Sunday of

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Speaker 1: the season other than Tampa missing. Basically everything hit. But anyways,

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Speaker 1: going back to so Thursday was awesome with thanks with

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Speaker 1: Thanksgiving Friday had USA England, by the way hit a

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Speaker 1: bet on that if you're not following the podcast, or

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Speaker 1: the Graham. I posted pics on Instagram stories. USA England

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Speaker 1: tied at the half. Not not a really awesome game.

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Speaker 1: I thought it was great, intense and but I think

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Speaker 1: think I saw that it was the most watched soccer

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Speaker 1: TV numbers were massive for Thanksgiving Cowboys Giants, I think

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Speaker 1: was the most watched regular season game in NFL history,

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Speaker 1: And again Rob can fact check me on that. But

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Speaker 1: the numbers were monster. So Saturday you had USC defeating

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Speaker 1: which we're not gonna get to. We'll get to it

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Speaker 1: later in the week. Michigan, man, I was wrong about

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Speaker 1: that one. Holy hell, Michigan taking down Ohio State like

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Speaker 1: with that. They will not get in not losing by

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Speaker 1: twenty three at home to Michigan. Okay, And then you

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Speaker 1: had Sunday that Sherry on top, and I got a

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Speaker 1: truthful I don't know where to begin, guys, Sunday beside

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Speaker 1: the gambling besides fantasy, I want to just say one

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Speaker 1: piece of advice. So I've mentioned the teams that did

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Speaker 1: not cover versus teams that did cover. Okay, there was

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Speaker 1: four of them in week twelve. The Vikings they covered,

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Speaker 1: the Giants back to a late cover. The Broncos are

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Speaker 1: then the last one was Arizona Cardinals did cover, lost

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Speaker 1: excruciating defeat. Kyler Murray had some comments after the loss

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Speaker 1: was weird. Folks did not cover verse did I've already

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Speaker 1: looked it up. We are looking at potentially six of

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Speaker 1: And he tells it to me, and I was so

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Speaker 1: pumped up. Josh Jacob's coming through. But we're not starting

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Speaker 1: start with Lamar Jackson, and I know, I know, it's

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Speaker 1: like wait a minute, j J J. They lost. I

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Speaker 1: the Ravens suffer a brutal, brutal defeat at the hands

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Speaker 1: about had him in the contest, by the way, contest

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Speaker 1: three in one Pendig Steelers tonight. Uh, Lamar Jackson. He

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Speaker 1: wasn't great, but I don't think he was terrible, right,

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Speaker 1: I mean, he gives them the lead. The defense can't

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Speaker 1: which is just insane, And I'm like, what is Why

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Speaker 1: JABRONI comes at Lamar Jackson on Twitter and says, boy,

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Speaker 1: we giving all this money to Lamar Jackson, we should

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Speaker 1: be realistic. That comment bashing Lamar Jackson as if he's

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Speaker 1: I get it. I yet, why Lamar Jackson sent that out?

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Speaker 1: I totally understand it. What is he twenty six years old? Guys? Okay,

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Speaker 1: I know it's like franchise quarterbacks. They don't do that.

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Speaker 1: They don't send angry tweets. Yeah, Tom Brady who's forty five,

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Speaker 1: He scrubs his social media of all Arizona things just

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Speaker 1: so he gets paid. Young quarterbacks do stupid things. How

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Speaker 1: many dumb young things did you do when you were

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Speaker 1: he's the face of the franchise. I get it. And

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Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson was heated after the game, and you know

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Speaker 1: you're supposed to like have that cooling down period. Well,

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Speaker 1: Lamar comes to the press conference. I don't know if

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Speaker 1: how do you feel after losing? Like Lamar's basically like,

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Speaker 1: how do you think I feel bad? I lost the game?

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Speaker 1: And he says some curse words. Listen, I get it.

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Speaker 1: Ravens blow another fourth quarter lead. Another reason for Lamar

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Speaker 1: Did you see who Lamar Jackson's throwing too? I'm just

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Speaker 1: gonna say his name. I know he's not in your

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Speaker 1: fantasy roster, Josh Oliver, are you familiar with his work?

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Speaker 1: I'm certainly not. If I gave you five chances, could

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Speaker 1: you guess where he went to college? Probably not. It

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Speaker 1: was the Josh Oliver Show because everybody knows. Hey, Mark

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Speaker 1: Andrews is all they've got. Bateman's out for the season.

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Speaker 1: sixty two yard bomb. I can't believe he didn't get

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Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys sign Outdell Beckham. It's obviously not a

423
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Speaker 1: great look and I would want to know where were you, Like,

424
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Speaker 1: what were you doing? I mean, it's probably a last hurrat.

425
00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:39,760
Speaker 1: Like Odell knows, once he goes to a football team,

426
00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:44,040
Speaker 1: he's gotta have to like practice, show up, not be partying. Yeah,

427
00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:48,240
Speaker 1: it's like when you, let's say, you lose your job

428
00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:50,560
Speaker 1: and you get a severance. You get six months of fun.

429
00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:53,320
Speaker 1: You travel, hang out with your buddies. If you're single,

430
00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:55,320
Speaker 1: you're just going around. It's awesome. Then you get a

431
00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:58,240
Speaker 1: job and you like, well that was fun. It was

432
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Speaker 1: like one of the best summers I ever had. Never

433
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Speaker 1: forget it. I talked to with my buddy all the time,

434
00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:05,360
Speaker 1: you know, during college, me, my buddy and my other

435
00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:08,080
Speaker 1: other friend. None of us had jobs. I think it

436
00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:11,160
Speaker 1: was like going into our junior year and basically every

437
00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:13,479
Speaker 1: day we would just like hang out, go pool hopping.

438
00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:16,040
Speaker 1: We would hang out of my buddies basement and take

439
00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:19,199
Speaker 1: some shots, play pool, invite some girls over, go to

440
00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:21,719
Speaker 1: the gym like it was an incredible So, I mean,

441
00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:24,520
Speaker 1: we just played pick up basketball like it was one

442
00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:27,760
Speaker 1: of the best summers of my youth. No work, and

443
00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:29,360
Speaker 1: then you kind of had to end and you're like, oh,

444
00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:31,680
Speaker 1: I gotta go to I gotta go to geology now

445
00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:34,760
Speaker 1: at eight am on Tuesday. What the It just was

446
00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:37,120
Speaker 1: an ideal. I think Odell's just going through that rob.

447
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Speaker 1: I think this is much ado about nothing, but it's

448
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Speaker 1: Odell Beckham, so it's an international incident. Yeah. I mean,

449
00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:44,080
Speaker 1: this is one of those situations where to your point,

450
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Speaker 1: I think that he just he went hard in the

451
00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:49,320
Speaker 1: paint for you know, maybe normal people like you and

452
00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:50,840
Speaker 1: I go hard to the paint for like a night,

453
00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:52,520
Speaker 1: but when you're at Beckham jun you go hard to

454
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Speaker 1: the paint for like six seven days in a row

455
00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:56,560
Speaker 1: because you know somebody who know somebody. You get into

456
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Speaker 1: all the nightclubs, you know all the famous people, and

457
00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:01,040
Speaker 1: they're having another party at the after party. The after

458
00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:04,359
Speaker 1: after party, and before you know it, you're fifteen shots

459
00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:08,200
Speaker 1: in and you're taking whatever someone's giving to you. So

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00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:11,280
Speaker 1: you know, I'm sure that he'll end up doing his

461
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Speaker 1: recruiting tour. I think he has coming up this week

462
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Speaker 1: with the Giants and the Cowboys and whoever. I think

463
00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:19,199
Speaker 1: the Saints are in there as well, And eventually in

464
00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:21,399
Speaker 1: about a week and a half he'll be science fielding

465
00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:24,560
Speaker 1: delivered in Dallas, getting raided for a deep bot season run.

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Speaker 1: Dallas makes the most sense. I mean, indoors, right, you've

467
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Speaker 1: got a good quarterback, You're not going He's not going

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Speaker 1: to New York, right, He's just using them as leverage

469
00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:34,360
Speaker 1: to get Jerry Jones raised his price. Alright, moving on,

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00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:38,359
Speaker 1: let's get to my jets. All right. You need some

471
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Speaker 1: context here because a lot of media members are not

472
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Speaker 1: providing what is necessary. There are a couple of things

473
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Speaker 1: can be true here. Yes, Mike White was terrific in

474
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Speaker 1: the rain. Who's Mike White. He's the backup quarterback. It's

475
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Speaker 1: not Joe Flacco, it's Mike What in the first half

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Speaker 1: a loon two thirty five yards to TVs. Okay, that's

477
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Speaker 1: like Zach Wilson two week total. Okay, Mike White was

478
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Speaker 1: phenomenal in the ring, outstanding performance, finished with three yards

479
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Speaker 1: passing three TVs. Mike White has four career starts, two

480
00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:13,439
Speaker 1: games with three touchdown passes in four starts. Zack Wilson

481
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Speaker 1: has twenty starts. I'll give you a guess how many

482
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Speaker 1: three touchdown pass games he has. Correct It's zero, and

483
00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:23,400
Speaker 1: all the Jets were excited in the locker room. Elijah

484
00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:26,200
Speaker 1: More my guy briefly hanging out with him at the

485
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Speaker 1: Super Bowl out here in l A super nice guy.

486
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Speaker 1: He's out of the doghouse. He caught a touchdown pass.

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Speaker 1: You get massive post on Instagram. Yeah, okay, Now the context,

488
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Speaker 1: Mike White was facing the thirty ranked past defense in

489
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Speaker 1: the NFL, the Chicago Bears. Their past defense is trash.

490
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Speaker 1: Everybody likes him up. There's a chance if I dropped

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Speaker 1: back to pass Sunday in the rain, I might have

492
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Speaker 1: had a touchdown pass or two. I'm not even making

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Speaker 1: that up. And I can't even grip an NFL sized football,

494
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Speaker 1: Just kidding. I can, but couldn't throw multiple touchdown passes.

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Speaker 1: All that being said, okay, let's remember what Zach Wilson

496
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Speaker 1: faced when he was the starting quarterback. Okay, Zack Wilson

497
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Speaker 1: faced Denver, and I know they had a backup quarterback

498
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Speaker 1: because Russell Wilson was out Denver number four past defense

499
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Speaker 1: in the NFL. Okay, Zack Wilson struggled against it. They

500
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Speaker 1: basically took them all out of his hands. Give it

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Speaker 1: to Briest Lightning. You know, bries Hall season ended in

502
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Speaker 1: that game, and we're gonna run the football, not make

503
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Speaker 1: any mistakes to get out of here with the dope

504
00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:34,879
Speaker 1: they did. Then he faced the number one past defense

505
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Speaker 1: in the league, New England Patriots. Little fugazi, there's still

506
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Speaker 1: number one, and Zach vomited all over himself. Then he

507
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Speaker 1: faced Buffalo seventh, So Denver four, Patriots one, Buffalo seven,

508
00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:48,359
Speaker 1: and then the Patriots again one. So he faced in

509
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Speaker 1: a span of four weeks four top eight defenses, technically

510
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Speaker 1: three since he faced the Patriots twice. Now I know

511
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Speaker 1: what you'll say, Jay kirk Cousins just shredded the Patriots.

512
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Speaker 1: See he did, and I benched him in fantasy like

513
00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:05,600
Speaker 1: an ass clown. Patriots defense a little overridded. That being said,

514
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Speaker 1: kirk Cousins was at home indoors, not a defense of

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Speaker 1: Zack Wilson at all. Zach Wilson is not a good quarterback.

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Speaker 1: That's also a fact. I'm just saying. He played some

517
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Speaker 1: three of the top eight past defenses in the league.

518
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Speaker 1: Struggling up benched, Mike White comes in and looks like

519
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Speaker 1: a freaking hero against the Chicago Bears, who stink and oh,

520
00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:27,520
Speaker 1: by the way, Eddie Jackson, their safety, who I think

521
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Speaker 1: is a captain of their team, goes down the second quarter.

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00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:32,360
Speaker 1: It was it was a layup he delivered. Could Zach

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Speaker 1: Wilson have done that? I would like to think so.

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Speaker 1: Is he gonna get the chance? I think he will be.

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Speaker 1: I think if you ask me, what are the odds

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Speaker 1: will Zach Wilson start another game this season for the Jets?

527
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Speaker 1: I would bet yes. Mike White will face the Vikings

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Speaker 1: this week. Now it's in Minnesota, but the Vikings are

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Speaker 1: very bad. They have allowed a crap ton or is

530
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Speaker 1: my son likes to say, a crud ton of passing yards.

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Speaker 1: They are twenty nine in completions allowed twenty seven and

532
00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:03,440
Speaker 1: then QBR rating thirty feet and complete ship percentage UM.

533
00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:04,800
Speaker 1: I saw some of these stats and then a guy

534
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Speaker 1: tweeted them at me. Um, I mean it. They are

535
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Speaker 1: one of the bottom, without question, one of the bottom

536
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Speaker 1: four or five past defenses in the league. And if

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Speaker 1: you remember, Matt Jones is terrible, and Matt Jones looked

538
00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:19,879
Speaker 1: more than competent on on Thanksgiving Night against the Vikings.

539
00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:23,359
Speaker 1: He had the touchdown pass ripped away on the gold

540
00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:25,840
Speaker 1: line thing with Hunter Henry bottom line. Mike White has

541
00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:29,600
Speaker 1: a good chance to succeed in that game against Minnesota

542
00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:34,440
Speaker 1: where I think rubber meat road will be against Buffalo

543
00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:41,000
Speaker 1: on the road. Now, Buffalo, I think their past defense

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Speaker 1: is good. They have. They looked a little spotty against

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Speaker 1: the Lions on Thanksgiving. I didn't watch a ton of

546
00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:49,679
Speaker 1: that game, but I mean Detroit did cover the spread Buffalo.

547
00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:52,720
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know what to say about the

548
00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:54,560
Speaker 1: Buffalo now. I guess you could just chuck it up

549
00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:59,360
Speaker 1: to hey, they were buried in a snowstorm, they left

550
00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:03,040
Speaker 1: late to play in Detroit against the Browns, then they

551
00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:04,960
Speaker 1: fly back and then they have to fly back again

552
00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:07,800
Speaker 1: short week, So maybe you could chalk up some of

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00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:12,040
Speaker 1: that to that ugly performance against the Lions. We'll see.

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00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:14,320
Speaker 1: I still think Buffalo is a very very good team.

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00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:16,359
Speaker 1: I think this I already a couple of games already.

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00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:18,879
Speaker 1: Bet I bet Buffalo minus five and a half against

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00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:22,440
Speaker 1: the Patriots. There's the net football. I think we see

558
00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:25,159
Speaker 1: a really, really strong effort from a Buffalo team that

559
00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:27,920
Speaker 1: we all think was one of the best in the league.

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00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:30,720
Speaker 1: There's a Buffalo team that beat the Patriots. What was

561
00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:32,480
Speaker 1: the score in the playoff game forty seven to three,

562
00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:34,440
Speaker 1: seven to ten. I mean it was a beat down.

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00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:40,920
Speaker 1: I saw stat that the Buffalo Bills haven't punted against

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00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:44,479
Speaker 1: the Patriots in the last two meetings. Haven't punted unless

565
00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:48,280
Speaker 1: weather shows up. I think Buffalo smacks the Patriots around here.

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Speaker 1: So I'm gonna go ahead and say that this is

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Speaker 1: a spot for the Bills. And I think in two

568
00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:57,440
Speaker 1: you know, in two weeks, Mike White is going to

569
00:28:57,520 --> 00:28:59,240
Speaker 1: meet his end against Buffalo, and well, they bring back

570
00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:01,040
Speaker 1: Zack Wilson. I don't know, maybe they go to Flacco.

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00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:03,120
Speaker 1: Wilson's got some mending offenses to do. But if you

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Speaker 1: listen to the Mark Stinches podcast from last week, who

573
00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:08,520
Speaker 1: was spot on. By the way, um, I think Zach

574
00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:11,240
Speaker 1: Wilson will be starting again. By the way, I should

575
00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:17,400
Speaker 1: update the NFL playoff picture, especially in the A f C,

576
00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:20,720
Speaker 1: mostly because the Jets are right back in it. Obviously,

577
00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:25,800
Speaker 1: Chiefs at the top. Buffalo still creeping in um let's

578
00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:30,560
Speaker 1: Miami obviously. Also they're there at eight and three. Actually

579
00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:32,400
Speaker 1: they are ahead of the Bills because they beat them

580
00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:35,760
Speaker 1: head to head. But again, let's simmer down now with

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00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:39,800
Speaker 1: the Miami Dolphins. Okay, forty Niners this week. I already

582
00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:45,960
Speaker 1: bet the Niners minus three, then the Chargers, then the Bills.

583
00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:49,120
Speaker 1: If Miami goes to in one in this I will

584
00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:51,800
Speaker 1: believe the Super Bowl hype. I don't think they get

585
00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:54,120
Speaker 1: to in one year. Oh and three, Mate, wouldn't surprise me.

586
00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:57,240
Speaker 1: Tennessee really needed them to beat the Bengals. They are

587
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Speaker 1: the number three seed. They did not. I still think

588
00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:01,480
Speaker 1: they've out of stranglehold. But I mean, if the Colts

589
00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:04,720
Speaker 1: win tonight, suddenly I guess only a game and a

590
00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:07,400
Speaker 1: half back. Colts did have that weird tie Ravens took

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00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:10,200
Speaker 1: an l but they have the tiebreaker over the Jets. Uh,

592
00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:13,040
Speaker 1: Bengals seven and four, Jets seven and four, Patriots six

593
00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:16,240
Speaker 1: and five, Chargers six and five. How about Rob G

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00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:19,360
Speaker 1: we'll get this in here. How about justin Herbert delivery?

595
00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:24,720
Speaker 1: Rob I gotta say. For whatever reason on social media,

596
00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:29,160
Speaker 1: people like want to hate Justin Herbert. I don't I

597
00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:32,480
Speaker 1: must have missed the memo. But why they hate an

598
00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:38,320
Speaker 1: Emmy for Justin Herbert, who doesn't do any media, isn't flashy.

599
00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:43,880
Speaker 1: He's like an anonymous gargantu in quarterback with a cannon arm.

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Speaker 1: He's lost I think his top two offensive lineman for

601
00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:51,480
Speaker 1: the season, and his receivers are always hurt. Mike Williams

602
00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:53,760
Speaker 1: has hurt again and they get a two point conversion

603
00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:57,560
Speaker 1: to beat the Cardinals, and people just want to take

604
00:30:57,560 --> 00:30:59,120
Speaker 1: a dump on Herbert. Oh, we threw a fourth quarter

605
00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:03,360
Speaker 1: interception and they returned it. I was like, Okay, what

606
00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:05,640
Speaker 1: is the deal? What what am I missing with the

607
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:09,680
Speaker 1: Justin Herbert hate? I think it was the premature coronation

608
00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:13,360
Speaker 1: that people want to hate about him. You know, now, yeah,

609
00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:15,160
Speaker 1: he has a losing record as a NFL quarter I

610
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:17,800
Speaker 1: know that that. You know. It's funny is everyone says, well,

611
00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:19,840
Speaker 1: wins are not a quarterbacks that, and it's like, well,

612
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:22,600
Speaker 1: then how comes? But then it's like, well how come

613
00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:24,640
Speaker 1: the guy that you referred to as the goat is

614
00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:27,480
Speaker 1: because he wins the most Super Bowls it's Tom Brady,

615
00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:30,800
Speaker 1: even though even though nobody who watches football has ever

616
00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:33,880
Speaker 1: said during one season, maybe maybe the eight season one,

617
00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:36,680
Speaker 1: that Tom Brady is the best quarterback. That season, it

618
00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:40,560
Speaker 1: was Payton Manning, and then it was you know, Ben

619
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:42,880
Speaker 1: Roethlisberger for like a half a season, and then it

620
00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:44,720
Speaker 1: was Aaron Rodgers, and then it was Patrick Mahomes. No

621
00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:48,480
Speaker 1: one's ever said that Tom Brady, but whatever, um no,

622
00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:51,880
Speaker 1: justin Herbert's he's an extreme talent. But I think that

623
00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:55,920
Speaker 1: because everybody wanted to put him up there alongside Patrick Mahomes.

624
00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:58,640
Speaker 1: You know, Aaron Rodgers was a two time MVP coming

625
00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:00,880
Speaker 1: into this season and said he's better in him that

626
00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:04,000
Speaker 1: he's you know, just as good as Josh Allen. He's

627
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:05,680
Speaker 1: better than Joe Burrow who made a Super Bowl. And

628
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:08,960
Speaker 1: it's like, you have to do something before we put

629
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:13,240
Speaker 1: you in that stratosphere. And yet it's tough. I mean again,

630
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:18,320
Speaker 1: like you know, the argument against Joe Burrow is like, okay,

631
00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:21,240
Speaker 1: well he he came in and he had Tee Higgins.

632
00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:23,000
Speaker 1: I don't know, was he a first round pick, might

633
00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:25,400
Speaker 1: have been a second. Tyler Boyd very good player, and

634
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Speaker 1: then he gets gifted Jamaar Chase, who clearly is the

635
00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:30,120
Speaker 1: top five receiver in the league. And you look at

636
00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:32,760
Speaker 1: Justin Herbery, You're like, oh, yeah, he got Allen and Williams. Okay,

637
00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:35,520
Speaker 1: they've both been hurt like a ton this year. Rob

638
00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:42,000
Speaker 1: their leading receiver was DeAndre Carter seven for seventy three.

639
00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:47,040
Speaker 1: He had ten targets. But that's not fair, Jason boll Wait,

640
00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:50,040
Speaker 1: hold on, let me finish Austin Ekeler fifteen targets. You

641
00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:52,920
Speaker 1: know why that is? Because the offensive line's crumbling like

642
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:56,479
Speaker 1: a folding table in Buffalo every freaking down, and Herbert

643
00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:58,320
Speaker 1: likes to check it down. He likes he likes to

644
00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:00,960
Speaker 1: go full Tom Rady and check it down. But hold on,

645
00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:02,800
Speaker 1: hold on, hold on, wait, wait, wait, wait wait wait, Okay.

646
00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:06,360
Speaker 1: I remember watching that vividly, and I'm telling you, Justin

647
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:08,960
Speaker 1: Herbert's getting hit every freaking time he drops back. In

648
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:11,360
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter, then I look, he got sacked four times,

649
00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:13,880
Speaker 1: and oh, let me count the quarterback kids for the

650
00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:19,160
Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals thirteen. He got hit thirteen times. I mean,

651
00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:22,000
Speaker 1: it was unbelievable, the beating he took. And he kept

652
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:27,360
Speaker 1: delivering to DeAndre Carter and Josh Palmer. I'm stunned and

653
00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:29,760
Speaker 1: in awe and oh, by the way, we both agree

654
00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:33,960
Speaker 1: he's entirely held back by his coach. Um, what's his face?

655
00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:37,280
Speaker 1: Brandon Staley, who is lucky as hell that Herbert got

656
00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:39,680
Speaker 1: the two point conversion. You watched this team a lot,

657
00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:45,320
Speaker 1: a f C West team, Rob. Don't I feel weird

658
00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:48,080
Speaker 1: having to jump in and defend Justin Herbert? I don't know. Yeah,

659
00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:49,760
Speaker 1: I mean, especially after last week when we had that

660
00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:53,040
Speaker 1: conversation about him. But the only thing I will say

661
00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:55,760
Speaker 1: to push back onto your Burrow Herbert comparison. He has

662
00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:58,360
Speaker 1: Burrow has I think better weapons and more consistent weapons

663
00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:03,880
Speaker 1: on the outside. Clob sucks. Yeah. However, however, the Chargers

664
00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:07,440
Speaker 1: consistently have a top five roster in the NFL. Every year.

665
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:10,560
Speaker 1: They have more Pro Bowlers almost than everybody in the

666
00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:13,640
Speaker 1: NFL almost every season over one of the best, one

667
00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:16,640
Speaker 1: of the top vote getters, or whatever you want to

668
00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:19,880
Speaker 1: call it, and they're always eight and eight, nine and seven,

669
00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:24,160
Speaker 1: seven and nine, whatever. It is like there, nobody does

670
00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:29,759
Speaker 1: less with more than the Chargers, and Justin Herbert I

671
00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:33,000
Speaker 1: guess it's kind of like the poster child for that

672
00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:36,040
Speaker 1: because he has so much talent. I know it's not his,

673
00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:39,480
Speaker 1: it's not completely his fault, of course not, but you can't.

674
00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:42,480
Speaker 1: At some point winning has to matter. At some point.

675
00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:44,120
Speaker 1: I'm not saying has to be the be all end all,

676
00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:46,200
Speaker 1: because I still think Aaron Rodgers the best court I've

677
00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:48,759
Speaker 1: ever seen. It is one super Bowl, but at some

678
00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:51,640
Speaker 1: point it has to matter, and for him, for whatever reason,

679
00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:53,840
Speaker 1: it just doesn't for a lot of people. They the

680
00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:56,120
Speaker 1: Chargers did a good job of making James Conner look

681
00:34:56,160 --> 00:35:00,359
Speaker 1: like Walter Payton carries a d and twenty yards. They

682
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:02,520
Speaker 1: just ground that. I mean, they can't stop the word.

683
00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:05,279
Speaker 1: This has been like the most obvious fixed ever. I

684
00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:07,520
Speaker 1: pray they get jail and Carter out of Georgia in

685
00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:08,840
Speaker 1: the draft. They won't get him, They'll be like a

686
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:11,000
Speaker 1: top five pick anyway. This is a good point to

687
00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:16,080
Speaker 1: segue to the Chargers opponent, the Arizona Cardinals. Uh. They

688
00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:18,840
Speaker 1: led for much of this game. They could not salt

689
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:21,320
Speaker 1: it away to save their life. The Chargers punted to

690
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:23,359
Speaker 1: them with like two minutes left. All they need was

691
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:25,759
Speaker 1: one first down, maybe two. Because the Chargers had all

692
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:30,279
Speaker 1: their time outs, Arizona could not do it. Arizona, let's

693
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:34,440
Speaker 1: see last three possessions, three plays, eight yards punt replaces

694
00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:37,120
Speaker 1: five yards punt re placed, three yards punt and then

695
00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:38,920
Speaker 1: they couldn't do anything at the very end of the game.

696
00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:45,400
Speaker 1: Rob afterwards, your boy Kyler Murray came out and, UM,

697
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:49,080
Speaker 1: why don't you read it because I like the shout

698
00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:51,880
Speaker 1: out you gave me because of what happened, what went down. Well,

699
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:54,319
Speaker 1: he was asked about what happened in the game and

700
00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:56,600
Speaker 1: some of the things that went wrong for them there

701
00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:59,320
Speaker 1: down the stretch and the headline, which is something that

702
00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:01,359
Speaker 1: I tweeted out. I gave you your props because you've

703
00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:04,480
Speaker 1: been on this now for several weeks, if not months.

704
00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:10,680
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray talking about what went wrong, quote schematically, we're

705
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:17,120
Speaker 1: kind of fucked. Sure, not exactly, A ringing endorsement of

706
00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:19,800
Speaker 1: his head coach, Cliff Kingsberry. A lot of the Arizona

707
00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:22,160
Speaker 1: fans after the I think this was two weeks ago,

708
00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:25,680
Speaker 1: we did this. Um, they were not happy. They were like, oh,

709
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:28,439
Speaker 1: who are your sources? That's not true. They like each

710
00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:31,600
Speaker 1: other and there was a report during the bye week

711
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:34,279
Speaker 1: about how they had a kumbay Ya session. I'm not

712
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:37,600
Speaker 1: saying it was in pushback against my story and or

713
00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:41,400
Speaker 1: what I said on the podcast, but it also is

714
00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:44,240
Speaker 1: like a big story in Arizona. In the local markets,

715
00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:46,680
Speaker 1: everybody is like the worst kept secret. Um did you

716
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:49,560
Speaker 1: see Now? I don't know, maybe he had maybe he

717
00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:53,080
Speaker 1: didn't make the photo, or he had other obligations, but

718
00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:55,799
Speaker 1: did you did you see Deshaun Watson was getting love

719
00:36:55,880 --> 00:37:01,319
Speaker 1: for his Thanksgiving thing locally? And I didn't see Kyler

720
00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:04,520
Speaker 1: Murie in the photo. Now at listen, maybe our other plans.

721
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:09,919
Speaker 1: Maybe I did not notice him in the photo. But

722
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:13,200
Speaker 1: by many, DeAndre Hopkins is viewed as that offensive leader

723
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:15,560
Speaker 1: on defense. Is J J. Watt like vocal guy who's

724
00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:17,719
Speaker 1: gonna stand up. Budda Baker obviously is also there because

725
00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:19,920
Speaker 1: he's been been there longer than J. J. Watt, But

726
00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:22,640
Speaker 1: you need your quarterback to be doing that. And Kyla

727
00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:25,359
Speaker 1: Murie ain't that dude, He's just not. I don't know

728
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:27,600
Speaker 1: what the endgame is here, That's what everybody wants to know. Well,

729
00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:29,839
Speaker 1: what's gonna happen? How the hell should I know? How

730
00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:33,840
Speaker 1: does anybody know? But bottom mind, the owner knows. Yeah,

731
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:35,440
Speaker 1: we got a quarterback who doesn't want to do his

732
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:38,240
Speaker 1: homework and he doesn't want to run, and Cliff Kingsbury

733
00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:41,759
Speaker 1: knows that, and the offense is frustrated with Kyler, and

734
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:44,680
Speaker 1: Kyler is yelling at his coach settle the f down

735
00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:47,239
Speaker 1: on a Thursday in football game against the Saints. Just

736
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:53,080
Speaker 1: he's just he's he always looks surly and unhappy. And

737
00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:55,879
Speaker 1: then you at Kik Kingsbury, who everybody likes. He's very

738
00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:58,839
Speaker 1: likable guy. He's a good hang as they say, like

739
00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:00,960
Speaker 1: if you are stranded at an airport bar for two

740
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:03,520
Speaker 1: hours and you're next to Cliff Kingsbury, it's gonna be fun.

741
00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:07,120
Speaker 1: You know, he's probably got some stories. I actually happen

742
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:10,080
Speaker 1: to know someone that he used to date, someone who

743
00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:12,799
Speaker 1: I worked with, and sounds like he's just a cool guy.

744
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:15,160
Speaker 1: He's fun to run with. Now is he a good

745
00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:20,520
Speaker 1: football coach? I don't know a lot of evidence says

746
00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:25,080
Speaker 1: maybe not. Um, but you gave me both of the

747
00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:27,440
Speaker 1: new deals. So what happens? Just just Cliff just say

748
00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:29,359
Speaker 1: I'm out of here. I saw the Arizona State job

749
00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:32,640
Speaker 1: went to the guy from Oregon, so it's like, oh,

750
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:34,640
Speaker 1: I thought that would be a landing spot for Cliff.

751
00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:38,120
Speaker 1: He's got awesome life in Arizona. He loves it. They're

752
00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:40,920
Speaker 1: perfect for him. You think he's gonna want to go

753
00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:44,000
Speaker 1: to Like I don't know. I'm seeing Luke Fickle maybe

754
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:48,279
Speaker 1: to to Wisconsin. Cliff Kingsbury going to Wisconsin. Guys, this

755
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:51,080
Speaker 1: is not happening. So I don't know if he if

756
00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:53,000
Speaker 1: he sees a way out or he just grins and

757
00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:56,640
Speaker 1: bears it. But ultimately, if they play like this next year,

758
00:38:57,760 --> 00:38:59,400
Speaker 1: I think Cliff is probably gonna be the one to

759
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:01,720
Speaker 1: get dusted. Mean, Rob, do you think they could trade

760
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:03,880
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray? I don't know what his market is, But

761
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:07,040
Speaker 1: like we talked earlier, Lamar Jackson, Oh hell yeah, people

762
00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:10,320
Speaker 1: are people are killing to get a crack at Lamar Jackson.

763
00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:13,680
Speaker 1: Are people killing to get a crack at Kyler Murray?

764
00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:16,640
Speaker 1: I don't know if he if Kyler hit the trade market.

765
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:21,319
Speaker 1: What's the market for a five ft ten quarterback who

766
00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:25,080
Speaker 1: doesn't have good practice habits, who shows up late, leaves early,

767
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:28,080
Speaker 1: doesn't want to review tape and all that fun stuff,

768
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:30,800
Speaker 1: and doesn't want to run because he doesn't want to

769
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:32,880
Speaker 1: get hurt. Like I just I don't know what I mean.

770
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:34,640
Speaker 1: I'm not saying he's a bad quarterback. I'm a Kyler

771
00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:37,480
Speaker 1: Murray fan. I just don't know, Like I don't think

772
00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:40,680
Speaker 1: the Jets are just saying, you know what, forget draft

773
00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:43,200
Speaker 1: in the quarterback, that's our guy. I think the Jets

774
00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:48,080
Speaker 1: would much rather have Derek Carr or Jimmy Garoppolo. What

775
00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:52,080
Speaker 1: say you, Rob G? I agree with you. And you

776
00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:54,360
Speaker 1: know you mentioned right off the top there that that

777
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:56,239
Speaker 1: they had this Kumbaya moment. You know, if that was

778
00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:58,680
Speaker 1: a pushback on you on what you said, it was

779
00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:01,040
Speaker 1: friend of the show Ian Rappable who actually reported that.

780
00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:04,000
Speaker 1: And I know everybody sees the headline that says that

781
00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:06,800
Speaker 1: they kind of got on the same page over the

782
00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:09,440
Speaker 1: last two weeks about what they wanted to do on offense.

783
00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:13,160
Speaker 1: But if you watch the clip and you read the

784
00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:17,560
Speaker 1: tweet that precedes it, the very first sentence says the

785
00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:23,160
Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals quarterback coach relationship has been tense. So he

786
00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:27,239
Speaker 1: confirmed because everything you said two weeks ago, and to

787
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:31,080
Speaker 1: your point, because they just gave Cliff Kingsbury new deal.

788
00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:34,840
Speaker 1: They just gave Kyler Murray a new deal. Unfortunately for Cliff,

789
00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:36,160
Speaker 1: even if I don't think he's a good coach, the

790
00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:39,320
Speaker 1: way things work out is it's much easier to replace

791
00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:41,920
Speaker 1: the coach than it is a quarterback, because it is

792
00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:45,760
Speaker 1: damn near impossible, as your New York Jets have found,

793
00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:49,480
Speaker 1: as the Carolina Panthers are finding out to find a

794
00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:54,040
Speaker 1: franchise guy. And say what you want about Kyler Murray.

795
00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:58,160
Speaker 1: He's at worst a middle of the road franchise caliper quarterback.

796
00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:03,920
Speaker 1: And well, I think he can, but you have no

797
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:07,360
Speaker 1: choice at that point. Wasn't he the m v P favorite?

798
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:10,600
Speaker 1: I know it was like October or like maybe early November,

799
00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:12,440
Speaker 1: but I think he was a favorite twice or the

800
00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:17,440
Speaker 1: leader maybe twice. So he has the potential. Last season

801
00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:19,960
Speaker 1: the first they were undefeated and then they lost to

802
00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:25,600
Speaker 1: uh the Packers. But again, I mean Kyler Murray. And

803
00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:27,520
Speaker 1: this is not a knocker Kyler Murray, But what is

804
00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:29,880
Speaker 1: he shown that would lead you to believe he can

805
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:35,320
Speaker 1: run a standard NFL offense? He's played in a wide

806
00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:39,680
Speaker 1: open spread throughout his entire football career. Do you even

807
00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:42,440
Speaker 1: want an NFL standard offense? Or do you want to

808
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:44,680
Speaker 1: do what the Ravens did building around Lamar or the

809
00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:48,879
Speaker 1: Eagles building around Jalen Hurts. Okay, so you're gonna play

810
00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:50,640
Speaker 1: one style of football where you have to spread it

811
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:53,680
Speaker 1: out for wide and again get him to use his legs,

812
00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:57,600
Speaker 1: which he doesn't want to. I'm not saying that he's

813
00:41:57,600 --> 00:42:00,359
Speaker 1: not capable of running an offense that's different than that,

814
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:03,040
Speaker 1: but he hasn't done it yet. He hasn't shown that

815
00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:08,640
Speaker 1: he can do it yet. So as again, as much

816
00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:11,200
Speaker 1: as I like Lamar from earlier in the show, Lamar

817
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:14,399
Speaker 1: style hasn't won a championship yet. Bro. If you see

818
00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:17,560
Speaker 1: what Mike McDaniel did to Like, what could he do

819
00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:19,080
Speaker 1: to Kyler Marie? By the way, I know the big

820
00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:21,319
Speaker 1: knock on Kyler is she's short. His passes are batted down.

821
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Speaker 1: I have in my notes here while I was watching

822
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:26,880
Speaker 1: Red Zone the feed for the Bengals stunning stat the

823
00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:29,680
Speaker 1: quarterback with the most passes batted down this season is

824
00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:34,799
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow. I was gonna guess Baker Mayfield. Yeah, Sam

825
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:37,560
Speaker 1: Darl got the dub. Fox Sports Radio has the best

826
00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:40,399
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829
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Speaker 1: I'm trying to look in the notes here see if

830
00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:52,839
Speaker 1: there's any other NFL we missed. Aaron Rodgers Big one,

831
00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:55,360
Speaker 1: and I thought you were going to bring up the

832
00:42:55,440 --> 00:43:00,400
Speaker 1: Jacksonville Jaguar's mascot who was wearing a banana mick and

833
00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:03,680
Speaker 1: he was painted yellow and he was like flexing and

834
00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:07,279
Speaker 1: doing all the weird gyrations during that Jack's Ravens game.

835
00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:09,719
Speaker 1: I thought that was a storyline. I wanted to bring

836
00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:12,279
Speaker 1: up the Brian Robinson Jr. Giant hat that he wore

837
00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:15,120
Speaker 1: in the postgame, the dumbest thing I said. I thought

838
00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:18,759
Speaker 1: that was awesome. Are you gonna go buy Hell? No,

839
00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:21,000
Speaker 1: But I just think I love what a guy's confidence

840
00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:23,600
Speaker 1: did wear something that you know, ridiculous and when you

841
00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:25,880
Speaker 1: when you run over an Atlanta Falcons guy like he

842
00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:27,239
Speaker 1: did on the sideline. I think he had his first

843
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:29,440
Speaker 1: hundred yard games. Yeah, he was awesome. He was awesome

844
00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:32,520
Speaker 1: on um. Yeah we could quit before World Cup. In

845
00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:36,200
Speaker 1: best bet, we'll quickly do um a little on Aaron Rodgers.

846
00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:39,600
Speaker 1: I don't know this is gonna sound crazy. I actually

847
00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:43,760
Speaker 1: thought Jordan's loved looked really sharp. It was limited time,

848
00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:46,520
Speaker 1: they're down. What they were down with fourteen at the time,

849
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:51,160
Speaker 1: seventeen something they were down and he hit Christian Watson.

850
00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:55,040
Speaker 1: By the way, Christian Watson's got some juice. Oh my gosh,

851
00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:57,160
Speaker 1: stop letting that guy take hits because I thought he

852
00:43:57,160 --> 00:43:58,759
Speaker 1: got concussed again. I don't know. If you saw one

853
00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:01,399
Speaker 1: of his catches over the middle, he definitely got hit hard.

854
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:05,680
Speaker 1: And if he gets it in space, holy cow, that

855
00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:08,640
Speaker 1: dude could go. I mean, I think I had the stats.

856
00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:11,160
Speaker 1: If you go back, you're not going to but we

857
00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:13,440
Speaker 1: had I think it was Daniel Jeremiah on and we

858
00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:14,919
Speaker 1: were talking about it and I had found a stat

859
00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:18,399
Speaker 1: where this guy had like so many touchdowns every time

860
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:20,160
Speaker 1: he touched the ball at I think it was North

861
00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:23,400
Speaker 1: Dakota State. He was just getting loose special teams, running, passing,

862
00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:27,680
Speaker 1: rob That guy is good. And Jordan's love. This is

863
00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:30,799
Speaker 1: a crazy thing. We're all gonna overreact and say, well,

864
00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:33,520
Speaker 1: if you could move on from Rogers and build around

865
00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:36,960
Speaker 1: Aaron Jordan's love. He's on a rookie deal. I think

866
00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:41,000
Speaker 1: this is his year, third year, and if you could

867
00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:42,919
Speaker 1: just suddenly build or get a couple of pieces, get

868
00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:45,880
Speaker 1: something to stop the run because their defense is awful,

869
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:47,719
Speaker 1: you get get some help in the in the middle

870
00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:51,680
Speaker 1: of that defense. Um, I think you'd probably add one

871
00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:55,400
Speaker 1: more receiver because we don't know how much more Randall

872
00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:59,960
Speaker 1: Cobb has in him. Um, Alan was already good. Okay, yeah,

873
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:03,439
Speaker 1: you add another receiver and some defensive pieces, then boom, Yeah,

874
00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:05,279
Speaker 1: I think you could quickly reboot. But this is such

875
00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:07,239
Speaker 1: a small sample side as Jordan loved though, he just

876
00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:09,400
Speaker 1: looks like a different dude back there, doesn't he. If

877
00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:11,680
Speaker 1: I recall his first two years, anytime he went in

878
00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:15,080
Speaker 1: it was just like I'm panicking, and now it was

879
00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:19,960
Speaker 1: like supreme confidence, like he was ready. Yeah. And you

880
00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:23,120
Speaker 1: know what's funny is a couple of weeks ago, Um

881
00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:25,960
Speaker 1: I forget it is it might maybe Rob Demowsky from

882
00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:28,120
Speaker 1: ESPN he within the pack of report. I'm almost positive

883
00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:32,120
Speaker 1: it was him. He had a little uh column released online.

884
00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:33,839
Speaker 1: I don't think I got any traction, but I saw it,

885
00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:37,600
Speaker 1: and in it, Jordan's love mentions the possibility that he

886
00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:41,000
Speaker 1: might have to leave Green Bay to play. That the

887
00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:43,320
Speaker 1: idea of requesting a trade was not out of the

888
00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:46,879
Speaker 1: realm of possibility for him, because he understood with Aaron

889
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:50,360
Speaker 1: Rodgers getting this new contract, Aaron Rodgers, you know, for

890
00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:53,000
Speaker 1: now not looking at retirement. Maybe his future was lying

891
00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:55,400
Speaker 1: in Green Bay and I and once that injury happened

892
00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:57,880
Speaker 1: last night. I tweeted out that this was like a

893
00:45:57,920 --> 00:46:02,160
Speaker 1: blessing in disguise for Green Bay, because Aaron Rodgers has shown,

894
00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:05,560
Speaker 1: with the broken hand and just his ego more than anything,

895
00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:09,160
Speaker 1: that he is not going to willingly step aside for

896
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:12,759
Speaker 1: Jordan's love. It's not gonna happen. So him getting hurt,

897
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:14,560
Speaker 1: I thought might have been a way for them to

898
00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:16,919
Speaker 1: see what they have in Jordan's love in a real

899
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:21,200
Speaker 1: sample size, not just one game here, a quarter there, whatever.

900
00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:25,400
Speaker 1: And then lo and behold, I wake up, you know

901
00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:28,600
Speaker 1: this morning, and I see that Aaron Rodgers is going

902
00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:31,399
Speaker 1: to have an m r I on Monday, and he

903
00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:36,520
Speaker 1: says that if it comes back negative for fractured ribs,

904
00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:40,640
Speaker 1: he intends to play in week thirteen. So that whole

905
00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:42,600
Speaker 1: spield that I put out on Twitter, which I thought

906
00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:45,640
Speaker 1: was pretty profound, turns out to be much ado about nothing,

907
00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:48,480
Speaker 1: because if Aaron Rodgers can play, He's going to play,

908
00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:51,160
Speaker 1: and Jordan's love is gonna be back in quarterback purgatory.

909
00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:54,279
Speaker 1: If you remember the Friday Pod after they lost to

910
00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:57,439
Speaker 1: the Titans, I said, Aaron Rodgers look so bad. I

911
00:46:57,480 --> 00:47:00,799
Speaker 1: bet you we're gonna hear from an NFL inside either, Oh,

912
00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:03,040
Speaker 1: Rogers is dealing with this. He's gonna have an m R.

913
00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:06,720
Speaker 1: I could be serious. We don't know something to defend Rogers.

914
00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:11,120
Speaker 1: And it's weird because he played in the primetime game.

915
00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:14,040
Speaker 1: I didn't see a particular shot that looked bad, did

916
00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:17,040
Speaker 1: you know? But he said he said hurt in the

917
00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:19,480
Speaker 1: first quarter, and then he reaggravated the third and that

918
00:47:19,560 --> 00:47:21,719
Speaker 1: ultimately when K talked him out. And of course the

919
00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:24,480
Speaker 1: broken thumb or whatever his thumb injury is. Like, basically,

920
00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:29,160
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers is walking wounded, and um, I don't know.

921
00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:33,360
Speaker 1: I just they paid him all that money. He hasn't

922
00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:36,439
Speaker 1: been the incredible Aaron Rodgers. They want to rally around

923
00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:39,680
Speaker 1: the run. Mr Vante Adams, by the way, Davanta Adams,

924
00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:43,320
Speaker 1: your guy, what an incredible left handed, one handed catch.

925
00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:45,760
Speaker 1: I mean it wasn't as good as in Joe Who's

926
00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:48,640
Speaker 1: fourth and ten game saving touchdown catch. DeAndre Hopkins had

927
00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:50,600
Speaker 1: a great catch on Sunday too. Hopkins, well, yes, I

928
00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:53,239
Speaker 1: saw that one as well. Um, it's just it's no

929
00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:57,359
Speaker 1: surprise that Rodgers to me, all these injuries are coming up.

930
00:47:57,600 --> 00:48:01,360
Speaker 1: Is it an excuse? Well, I guess not. But again

931
00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:03,640
Speaker 1: you have to think radically. It's easy, Rob for us

932
00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:05,839
Speaker 1: to sit up here and say, oh yeah, I would

933
00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:08,239
Speaker 1: just Ben Rodgers and then try to trade him, and

934
00:48:08,239 --> 00:48:09,879
Speaker 1: I would make Jordan's Love the guy like. It Ain't

935
00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:13,880
Speaker 1: not nearly that easy right now. I mean, how do

936
00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:15,200
Speaker 1: you sell that to your fan based you know what,

937
00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:18,000
Speaker 1: We're gonna move on from Rogers because Aaron Rodgers, Jordan's

938
00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:20,960
Speaker 1: Love looked good at nine throws. You know, Jordan Love

939
00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:23,120
Speaker 1: could come out against the Bears this week. That's what's interesting.

940
00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:25,279
Speaker 1: I think they have the Bears double check. We'll see.

941
00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:26,960
Speaker 1: That's why. That's why I thought it was important for

942
00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:29,160
Speaker 1: him for Aaron Rodgers to you know, go down with

943
00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:32,360
Speaker 1: mysterious rape injury and let Jordan Love play. It's funny

944
00:48:32,560 --> 00:48:35,239
Speaker 1: because Andrew Brand, another friend of the show who worked

945
00:48:35,239 --> 00:48:37,560
Speaker 1: with the Packers for a long time, tweeted out late

946
00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:40,800
Speaker 1: last night Rogers came in for Far due to injury

947
00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:42,719
Speaker 1: and a night game late in his third season. He

948
00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:45,759
Speaker 1: then started the next year. Jordan's Love came in for

949
00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:48,160
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers due to injury and night game late in

950
00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:52,879
Speaker 1: his third season. We'll see what happens. Hashtag deja vu.

951
00:48:55,360 --> 00:48:58,120
Speaker 1: The only problem with that is to your point, you

952
00:48:58,160 --> 00:49:00,399
Speaker 1: can't sell to the fan base Jordan's love. We're taking

953
00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:02,840
Speaker 1: over in year four when the most you've seen of

954
00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:05,040
Speaker 1: him is a quarter and a half, and most of

955
00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:07,719
Speaker 1: that time he looked like a deer in the headlights.

956
00:49:08,040 --> 00:49:12,680
Speaker 1: So you know, what is it? What did they say? Um?

957
00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:15,840
Speaker 1: You know and not? It's not risk taking favors the bold.

958
00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:21,360
Speaker 1: But essentially the biggest upside is when you do radical

959
00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:23,840
Speaker 1: things like that. Now it's also the biggest downside. You know,

960
00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:25,880
Speaker 1: if you're the GM who dumps Aaron Rodgers and then

961
00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:27,560
Speaker 1: he goes and wins the Super Bowl next year in

962
00:49:28,480 --> 00:49:34,719
Speaker 1: I don't know, rogersondable with the Giants, Okay, Vegas. Let's

963
00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:37,080
Speaker 1: say let's say he pulls that off right, then you

964
00:49:37,080 --> 00:49:40,279
Speaker 1: look like an idiot for trading him. You could look

965
00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:42,480
Speaker 1: at the Denver trade a year ago when they sent

966
00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:46,080
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson. You're like, oh my, gosh, Seattle, just keep

967
00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:49,520
Speaker 1: Denver Russell Wilson. Oh my, everybody said Denver. I don't

968
00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:51,800
Speaker 1: think you could find one pundit who said the Broncos

969
00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:56,640
Speaker 1: were not a playoff team with Russell Wilson. And here

970
00:49:56,680 --> 00:49:58,880
Speaker 1: you are. When did the trade go down March or whatever.

971
00:49:59,080 --> 00:50:01,560
Speaker 1: So now we're like seven the months later, and it

972
00:50:01,560 --> 00:50:04,440
Speaker 1: looks like a historically bad deal for the Broncos, who

973
00:50:04,520 --> 00:50:06,719
Speaker 1: are hurtling toward the top five pick, which will then

974
00:50:06,719 --> 00:50:11,200
Speaker 1: go to Seattle, and it's like, oh my gosh, they're terrible.

975
00:50:11,560 --> 00:50:13,520
Speaker 1: I don't know. Now you can make an argument the

976
00:50:13,520 --> 00:50:16,200
Speaker 1: Broncos are gonna be fine next year. They have a

977
00:50:16,360 --> 00:50:19,120
Speaker 1: league high players on i R, league high salary on

978
00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:22,640
Speaker 1: i R, so it's like important players, you know. I

979
00:50:23,239 --> 00:50:25,239
Speaker 1: like to think Denver will bounce back. I think there's

980
00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:28,200
Speaker 1: a good bilow on Denver, but I don't know. Rob

981
00:50:28,280 --> 00:50:31,840
Speaker 1: Like trading Aaron Rodgers super risky. It's the kind of

982
00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:33,759
Speaker 1: thing you may not work in the league if you

983
00:50:33,760 --> 00:50:35,520
Speaker 1: traded him, or you're gonna be like the assistant to

984
00:50:35,560 --> 00:50:38,440
Speaker 1: the assistant regional manager, you know, one of those one

985
00:50:38,440 --> 00:50:41,360
Speaker 1: of those deals. Or but you do make the trade

986
00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:46,240
Speaker 1: and it works out. Damn. It's looking good now. For instance, um,

987
00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:49,960
Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan and John Lynch ready to jump jump Jimmy

988
00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:53,759
Speaker 1: Garoppolo and bring on trade lands right by the way,

989
00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:57,160
Speaker 1: thirteen nothing winner over the Saints, easy cover for them. Well,

990
00:50:57,160 --> 00:50:58,400
Speaker 1: it was a bit of a sweat. The Saints got

991
00:50:58,440 --> 00:51:00,279
Speaker 1: into the ten yard line twice in the four quarter,

992
00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:03,839
Speaker 1: couldn't get no points for defense is nasty, but it's like,

993
00:51:04,560 --> 00:51:06,920
Speaker 1: what do they do? What is John John Lynch was like,

994
00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:11,200
Speaker 1: we struck gold. Kyle Shanahan has his guy. I don't know, man,

995
00:51:11,360 --> 00:51:15,239
Speaker 1: he he looks Jordan's lovish. In a limited sample size

996
00:51:15,239 --> 00:51:17,239
Speaker 1: we've seen of Trade Lancer, I mean very limited, like

997
00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:21,279
Speaker 1: five games, and it's like, okay, well, I mean they

998
00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:22,640
Speaker 1: look like they're going to the Super Bowl or at

999
00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:26,760
Speaker 1: least the NFC Championship. They do that, can you still

1000
00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:29,440
Speaker 1: sell while we're moving on from Jimmy G Trade Lancer.

1001
00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:32,360
Speaker 1: I don't know that that's gonna work if they go

1002
00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:35,239
Speaker 1: from super Bowl. Let's say they lose the super Bowl

1003
00:51:35,239 --> 00:51:38,000
Speaker 1: and lose the NFC Championship and they decided we're done

1004
00:51:38,040 --> 00:51:40,440
Speaker 1: with Jimmy G. Trail Lancer guy, and then you go

1005
00:51:40,560 --> 00:51:43,240
Speaker 1: like seven and ten next year, you're fired. You're done.

1006
00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:48,239
Speaker 1: It's not gonna work. So it's just fascinating. I'm kind

1007
00:51:48,239 --> 00:51:50,840
Speaker 1: of with you. I would explore moving on from Rogers.

1008
00:51:51,160 --> 00:51:54,520
Speaker 1: Remember now this is where it gets super fascinating. Denver

1009
00:51:55,320 --> 00:52:00,360
Speaker 1: had Hackett thought they were getting Rogers. They ended up

1010
00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:02,120
Speaker 1: with Russell Wilson. Now, I'm not ready to say Russell

1011
00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:04,279
Speaker 1: Wilson's washed. We couldn't have that discussion later in the week.

1012
00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:07,520
Speaker 1: I don't think he's washed, but she's he's getting yelled

1013
00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:09,719
Speaker 1: at by his defensive players. Did you guys did you

1014
00:52:09,719 --> 00:52:13,160
Speaker 1: see that highlight? Rob I don't I feel bad for us.

1015
00:52:13,320 --> 00:52:16,040
Speaker 1: He was like shook by it. It's like those guys

1016
00:52:16,120 --> 00:52:18,640
Speaker 1: don't get yelled at by people like I bet you

1017
00:52:18,640 --> 00:52:21,319
Speaker 1: couldn't find one incident where Richard Sherman was yelling in

1018
00:52:21,360 --> 00:52:23,319
Speaker 1: the face of his quarterback. Now, it could have been

1019
00:52:23,320 --> 00:52:25,720
Speaker 1: like one of those motivational things like come on, let's

1020
00:52:25,719 --> 00:52:30,799
Speaker 1: go do something. You know, like that's different than what

1021
00:52:30,960 --> 00:52:33,520
Speaker 1: everybody thinks might have been said. And I know Russell

1022
00:52:33,520 --> 00:52:36,480
Speaker 1: Wilson's laughing it off. Nothing. Hey, we like you like

1023
00:52:36,520 --> 00:52:38,800
Speaker 1: to see that fire. You know, Russ is forever positive

1024
00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:42,360
Speaker 1: and I like that man so much to you, un

1025
00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:45,920
Speaker 1: rob Um, I don't know do we need to get

1026
00:52:46,040 --> 00:52:48,239
Speaker 1: Is there any other games we missed that you think

1027
00:52:48,280 --> 00:52:50,279
Speaker 1: the audience will be like yo, yo yo, how are

1028
00:52:50,280 --> 00:52:53,320
Speaker 1: you not talking? Do we need to go deeper on

1029
00:52:53,400 --> 00:52:55,960
Speaker 1: Josh Jacobs? Maybe we'll just put a pit in it.

1030
00:52:56,239 --> 00:52:59,760
Speaker 1: Bryce Perkins looking plucky for the Rams. By the way,

1031
00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:03,319
Speaker 1: the two big favorites covered relatively easy, and if you

1032
00:53:03,360 --> 00:53:05,520
Speaker 1: toss in San Francisco, which I think was nine nine

1033
00:53:05,560 --> 00:53:08,359
Speaker 1: and a half. Um, all three teams favored by nine

1034
00:53:08,440 --> 00:53:10,719
Speaker 1: or more covered. Now for most of the season, the

1035
00:53:10,719 --> 00:53:13,960
Speaker 1: double digit dogs have been barking. I'll last that was

1036
00:53:14,040 --> 00:53:16,879
Speaker 1: not the case on Sunday. All right, world, I mean

1037
00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:19,920
Speaker 1: listen today. By the time you're listening to this, um,

1038
00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:22,120
Speaker 1: later in the morning, the World Cup games will be done.

1039
00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:26,319
Speaker 1: I think. Wait, let me scratch that. My guess is

1040
00:53:27,640 --> 00:53:29,440
Speaker 1: some people are like me on the West Coast and

1041
00:53:29,480 --> 00:53:32,719
Speaker 1: waking up early for soccer. I have been waking up

1042
00:53:32,760 --> 00:53:36,480
Speaker 1: a little earlier than normal because I love soccer. Um,

1043
00:53:37,200 --> 00:53:41,560
Speaker 1: they've got some interesting games today, UM that I'm very

1044
00:53:41,560 --> 00:53:46,479
Speaker 1: fired up about. Obviously, we'll do US Iran preview for tomorrow. Um,

1045
00:53:46,520 --> 00:53:48,839
Speaker 1: that'll be out early. I can't wait for that game

1046
00:53:48,920 --> 00:53:53,680
Speaker 1: England at the same time against Whales. Whales lost to

1047
00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:57,400
Speaker 1: zero to two against Iran two stoppage times goal goals,

1048
00:53:57,440 --> 00:54:01,799
Speaker 1: which is absolutely bonkers. But I guess, um, you know,

1049
00:54:02,239 --> 00:54:04,040
Speaker 1: I think I put some bets on on the Graham

1050
00:54:04,280 --> 00:54:12,360
Speaker 1: about Brazil, Switzerland and Portugal Uruguay. Um. Obviously, Tuesday is huge,

1051
00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:15,280
Speaker 1: so look for look for any other World Cup bets.

1052
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Speaker 1: College basketball has been good. Been been rolling with that,

1053
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Speaker 1: but I'll wrap up with Monday and football. The only

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Speaker 1: play I have is on the on the Steelers. I

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Speaker 1: I a juiced three. Somebody asked what is juice? So

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Speaker 1: normally the juice is minus one ten, right, better und

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Speaker 1: ten dollars to win a hundred. Okay, sometimes they will

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00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:35,520
Speaker 1: juice it down to two and a half because they know,

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Speaker 1: oh man, everybody's gonna be taken the three. With the Steelers,

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00:54:38,480 --> 00:54:40,520
Speaker 1: we can't give that anymore. If you want the two

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00:54:40,560 --> 00:54:43,919
Speaker 1: and a half, you can take it. Otherwise you're gonna

1062
00:54:43,920 --> 00:54:46,680
Speaker 1: have to pay a premium for the juice minus one

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Speaker 1: thirty one forty, which is not great in the long term.

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Speaker 1: I just I'm very curious Rob how the Steelers look

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Speaker 1: indoors with this offense. Pickens, Deante Johnson, Um the running

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Speaker 1: back nag Hary Risk. It's not like the Colts defense

1067
00:55:02,160 --> 00:55:05,399
Speaker 1: is great. I don't think it's a great Colst team

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00:55:05,440 --> 00:55:07,800
Speaker 1: to begin with. Maybe they're extra motivated because the Titans

1069
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Speaker 1: lost and they say we can win this division, and

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Speaker 1: Jeff Saturday has given his big speech, but I took

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Speaker 1: the Steelers in the points. I think they could win

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Speaker 1: this outright, Mike Tomlin versus Jeff Saturday, are you freaking

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00:55:16,640 --> 00:55:20,399
Speaker 1: kidding me? I gotta ride with Tomlin as a dog here.

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Speaker 1: I do have Uh, well, my son has Jonathan Taylor

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Speaker 1: and Michael Pittman in fantasy. I don't think I have

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Speaker 1: any real Fantasy um implications in this one, but it

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Speaker 1: should be a good one, I would. Steelers are nothing

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Speaker 1: for me. But folks, this coming week, Week thirteen is

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Speaker 1: off the charts. I'll wrap up by saying this, and

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Speaker 1: obviously World cuple week is gonna be fun. But Week

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Speaker 1: thirteen in the NFL Thursday Night Football Bills Patriots, I mean,

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00:55:46,640 --> 00:55:50,520
Speaker 1: that's a great game on paper. You also have and

1083
00:55:50,560 --> 00:55:54,600
Speaker 1: people can scoff the New York Jets at seven and

1084
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Speaker 1: four going to Minnesota nine and two. That's a big

1085
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Speaker 1: game because Minnesota wants to keep pace with the Eagles

1086
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Speaker 1: in the in the NFC for home field. The Jets

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Speaker 1: obviously want to get to the playoffs. Deshaun Watson returns

1088
00:56:05,520 --> 00:56:09,640
Speaker 1: to Houston. You got Washington and the Giants seven and

1089
00:56:09,680 --> 00:56:12,080
Speaker 1: five or seven and four Giants kind of fading here

1090
00:56:12,360 --> 00:56:15,440
Speaker 1: did not look good. Despite the cover against Dallas Washington,

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00:56:15,520 --> 00:56:19,200
Speaker 1: Taylor Heinekey, all he does is cover fun stat for you. So,

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Speaker 1: Taylor Heineke, since this is the kind of like gambling nugget,

1093
00:56:22,840 --> 00:56:25,400
Speaker 1: I'm hoping you can use five and one is a starter.

1094
00:56:27,640 --> 00:56:32,799
Speaker 1: Since he took over, Washington is leading the NFL in

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00:56:32,880 --> 00:56:35,839
Speaker 1: time of position. Essentially, they're handing it off and not

1096
00:56:35,920 --> 00:56:39,440
Speaker 1: letting their quarterback make mistakes. That's what smart coaches do.

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00:56:39,560 --> 00:56:42,320
Speaker 1: Rivera knows Heineke can't beat you, So can the Giants

1098
00:56:42,320 --> 00:56:44,400
Speaker 1: pull away and make Henicky pass? I don't think so.

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00:56:44,760 --> 00:56:49,319
Speaker 1: Tennessee at Eagles really good matchup. Miami obviously the big

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Speaker 1: I think that's the biggest game of the weekend. Miami

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Speaker 1: at San fran. How's this for a four oh five window?

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Speaker 1: Miami at San France and Casey at Cincinnati and oh,

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Speaker 1: by the way, Chargers at Raiders. Raiders are kind of

1104
00:57:03,960 --> 00:57:05,719
Speaker 1: fun to watch when Josh Jacobs is going for three

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Speaker 1: hundred yards of offense, and you know my affinity for Herbert. Anyways,

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Speaker 1: that's a super long podcast for Monday. Obviously, back tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: We're trying to line up a really good guest for Wednesday.

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Speaker 1: I think you'll like, folks. I hope you had a

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Speaker 1: great Thanksgiving. December right around the corner. Talk to you

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Speaker 1: tomorrow