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Speaker 1: Welcome inside that classic factory. I'm Leolas here a solo today.

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Speaker 1: None of my friends are here.

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Speaker 2: Well.

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Speaker 1: JD's here, of course, he's always in here, but none

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Speaker 1: of the other guys are here, Trey, Tass and Skeets

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Speaker 1: because I am popping packs again, popping packs with by

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Speaker 1: myself nineties basketball cards, and today I have a special guest.

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Speaker 1: He's a very special guest. He's so special. He's been

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Speaker 1: on once before. In fact, he's changed his nationality since

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Speaker 1: he was last on. He was Canadian and now he

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Speaker 1: is American. His name is Ariel Hawani. Ariel, welcome back

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Speaker 1: to Popping Packs. Now are you Canadian America? What's going on?

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Speaker 1: I saw you posted something the other day. You became

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Speaker 1: a citizen? Is that right?

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Speaker 2: Yes? And it is so great to be here. Thank

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Speaker 2: you so much for having me once again. In fact,

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Speaker 2: I was wonderingly when you would have me back. I

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Speaker 2: chalked it up to me doing so well and embarrassing

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Speaker 2: all the others that you didn't want to have me back.

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Speaker 2: And I totally understand. I am Canadian American, right, I'm

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Speaker 2: a canam connector right here, so I'm bringing the two

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Speaker 2: countries together. I will forever be Canadian my heart. But yes,

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Speaker 2: as of this past Tuesday, I am officially American as well.

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Speaker 2: Much like our good friends Skeets and Tasks. You know,

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Speaker 2: we are all living the American dream here. But I

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Speaker 2: think I could speak for them when I say Canada

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Speaker 2: in our hearts.

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Speaker 1: Always number one. There. Yes, now you talked about last

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Speaker 1: time You're on, You're right. I've had other guests like

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Speaker 1: Nate Jones, John Schuman on Cha Serrano, and there was

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Speaker 1: some talk about maybe having like a March Madness Stal

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Speaker 1: sort of face off, you know, against you know, some

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Speaker 1: of you guys getting in there and having it out.

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Speaker 1: And I know you're pretty confident in your abilities. I say,

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Speaker 1: you think you would be a number one seat if

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Speaker 1: that was the case, if we were to get a

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Speaker 1: bracket going.

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Speaker 2: Actually, you're incorrect. Not pretty confident, very confident, extremely confident.

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Speaker 2: I think I would ten seven all of those guys.

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Speaker 2: I think I would run through the competition. You know,

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Speaker 2: everyone you know considers me the fighting guy, the combat guy.

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Speaker 2: Right long before I ever even knew what mixed martial

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Speaker 2: arts was, I was supporting this man right here.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, three.

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Speaker 2: Try captain from Georgetown direct you I was supporting that man.

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Speaker 2: All right. Uh, and so I could tell you all

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Speaker 2: about nineties basketball, dad da, I mean I consumed all

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Speaker 2: it was my life.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And so yeah, you can line up all those jabrones

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Speaker 2: all you want. I'm run the table.

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Speaker 1: This is great. You're really sort of playing the heel

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Speaker 1: card here as well.

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Speaker 2: To Jane for nothing. Okay number one, Well this is.

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Speaker 1: Great, and you know you are wrecking You're Patrick Ewing.

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Speaker 1: I have to bring out my john Stocks for the

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Speaker 1: occasion here as well, because listen, I mean nothing nothing

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Speaker 1: says nineties basketball more than Patrick Ewing and John Stocks.

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Speaker 1: And well, you know, just before we get into it,

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Speaker 1: I'm sure I know without even asking you this question,

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Speaker 1: that you saw Chris Herrings and read Chris herrings incredible

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Speaker 1: book Blood in the Garden.

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Speaker 2: I have it right here.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, what did you think? I mean, give us a

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Speaker 1: quick sort of tyke on. Obviously it was incredible.

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Speaker 2: You know, it's my biggest complaint about the book. I

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Speaker 2: wish it was longer. Yeah, I mean I was like

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Speaker 2: was so nostalgic for me. I mean that is I

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Speaker 2: I was of those nineties Nicks. I mean, I adore

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Speaker 2: I consider myself an uber fan, especially of those teams.

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Speaker 2: And I was learning a bunch of stuff. I think

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Speaker 2: the insight from Dave Checkets, I can't say enough about it. Also,

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Speaker 2: a couple of weeks later, I ended up reading Charles Oakley,

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Speaker 2: Charles Oakley's book Excuse Me, written by the great Frank Izola,

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Speaker 2: formerly of the New York Daily News. Yeah, and that

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Speaker 1: It start off for rud We had the bing bong

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Speaker 2: It's like people still talk about nixtape. Nixtape was one

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Speaker 2: beat the Celtics on Opening Night and that was it.

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Speaker 2: I hated it, but yes, I will admit the Chemi deal.

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Speaker 2: It was going to be amazing to step back all that.

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Speaker 2: I was down with Fournier, I was down with all

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Speaker 1: Have you been to the Garden for a few games

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Speaker 2: I have not. I actually went more last year than

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Speaker 2: this year. As hard as it was to go last year,

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Speaker 2: hard to understand if you're like, what, you know, they're

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Speaker 2: This is one of the more depressing mixt seasons of

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Speaker 2: my entire fandom. Right, you still have me? Right?

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Speaker 2: Last year was one of my favorite years because they

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and the team they lost to the Hawks, obviously,

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Speaker 1: I thought both these teams were going to be like

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Speaker 1: But the Knicks, you know, to be to be well

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Speaker 2: you know, Julius had the incredible season. I thought he

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Speaker 2: I love my fellow Canadian RJ. Barrett, I love Mitchell Robinson.

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Speaker 2: There are some bright spots. Emmanuel Quickly is great. I

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Speaker 2: really do think it boils down to Derrick Rose, and

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Speaker 2: that they needed to make that run and to you know,

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Speaker 2: I'm conflicted, like do I want them to make a run. Sure,

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Speaker 1: It's just that they just don't have the same intensity.

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Speaker 2: Can I throw out a theory for you. I actually

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Speaker 2: think they benefited greatly from playing in empty arenas early on,

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Speaker 2: of like the heat in the Bubble two years ago.

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Speaker 2: You know, you're just bawling out right, You're an empty gym.

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Speaker 2: And I think a lot of these guys didn't know

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Speaker 2: but they were playing in front of no one helped

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Speaker 2: them exceed expectations. And then you see what happens in

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Speaker 2: the fact that there was no one there. Some teams

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Speaker 2: think they actually succeeded because no one was there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, it just was great though. With the

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Speaker 1: I prefer them to be losing. But I do think

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Speaker 2: look at that. Yeah that's nice.

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00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:41,399
Speaker 1: Okay, great, okay, next one. Wow, Well, we just just

433
00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:43,719
Speaker 1: talking about this guy. He started it for the Eastern

434
00:18:43,760 --> 00:18:46,879
Speaker 1: Conference in the ninety ninety four All Star Game in Minnesota,

435
00:18:47,359 --> 00:18:51,800
Speaker 1: a big man out of Syracuse, drafted by the New

436
00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:56,480
Speaker 1: Jersey Nets number one pick in nineteen ninety DC. Yeah,

437
00:18:56,800 --> 00:19:02,680
Speaker 1: y Comer and Coleman. Yeah, he went on to play

438
00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:04,760
Speaker 1: with what the Sixers, the Hornets.

439
00:19:05,320 --> 00:19:09,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, obviously with Kenny Anderson. There's a lot of buzz

440
00:19:09,680 --> 00:19:12,399
Speaker 2: about those two guys. Never quite lived up t expectations.

441
00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:15,720
Speaker 1: Yep. One of the very few guys who actually dunked

442
00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:17,879
Speaker 1: on Shack too. I think it was Shack's rookie season.

443
00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:21,440
Speaker 1: There's a great play there in East Rutherford where Derek

444
00:19:21,480 --> 00:19:23,600
Speaker 1: Common dunks on him and then he sort of points

445
00:19:23,600 --> 00:19:26,240
Speaker 1: at Shack as if to say, you know, because Shaq

446
00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:28,359
Speaker 1: would Yeah, Shack would have been the rookie then. So

447
00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:30,760
Speaker 1: he's like, you ain't You ain't blocking me, rook get

448
00:19:30,800 --> 00:19:34,400
Speaker 1: out of here. Great, Okay, next one. This other guy

449
00:19:34,600 --> 00:19:37,800
Speaker 1: was also a one time All Star in nineteen ninety seven,

450
00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:39,400
Speaker 1: So this one's going to test you out a little

451
00:19:39,440 --> 00:19:39,800
Speaker 1: bit here.

452
00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:41,879
Speaker 2: By the way, do you know that like the ninety

453
00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:43,280
Speaker 2: seventh thing? Is that off the top of your head?

454
00:19:43,520 --> 00:19:43,840
Speaker 1: Yes?

455
00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:46,080
Speaker 2: How the hell do you remember who made what team?

456
00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:49,199
Speaker 1: Well? I think you'll remember too when you get this

457
00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:50,880
Speaker 1: guy because he's one of those guys. Is like, how

458
00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:52,159
Speaker 1: was that guy an All Star? But he had a

459
00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:56,000
Speaker 1: really decent season there, And I feel.

460
00:19:55,720 --> 00:19:57,000
Speaker 2: Like, I think I know what you're going to say,

461
00:19:57,000 --> 00:19:58,600
Speaker 2: but I think I'm going to be wrong. There's a

462
00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:00,640
Speaker 2: guy Okay, we'll see if it's just there's a guy

463
00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:02,840
Speaker 2: in my head right now. I always have to remind

464
00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:04,280
Speaker 2: myself he was an All Star once. But I think

465
00:20:04,280 --> 00:20:05,920
Speaker 2: it's a little too soon for what you're saying.

466
00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:10,600
Speaker 1: Sorry, continue, okay, Golden State Warriors. I think he was

467
00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:13,720
Speaker 1: sort of a swingman, probably more forward than a guard,

468
00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:19,920
Speaker 1: and out of New Jersey, not the not the team,

469
00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:23,320
Speaker 1: but that's where he was from. And yeah, he's one

470
00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:25,080
Speaker 1: of those guys like you look back at those All

471
00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:25,920
Speaker 1: Star teams, you're like.

472
00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:29,040
Speaker 2: Man so on that in that year he was a

473
00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:30,120
Speaker 2: he was a Warrior.

474
00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:34,199
Speaker 1: In ninety seven he was a Warrior. Yes, yeah, probably

475
00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:36,880
Speaker 1: played I guess with Spree well in that season there.

476
00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:43,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, so I'm not because the guy honestly, the

477
00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:45,639
Speaker 2: guy I thought you were going to say, but I

478
00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:47,360
Speaker 2: think it's a little too soon was Chris Gatling.

479
00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:51,200
Speaker 1: Ah, you gotta go with your gut their area, Oh

480
00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:53,320
Speaker 1: wow playing Yeah Chris Galling.

481
00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:59,840
Speaker 2: I thought that's just because you said you remember he

482
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Speaker 2: was a part of that massive deal. Yes, he had

483
00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:04,560
Speaker 2: a great I think he was on Dallas right, he

484
00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:08,600
Speaker 2: treated Dallas. He also had a big scar on his head. Yeah,

485
00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:12,360
Speaker 2: yeah he did. He only make one OZ team.

486
00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:15,600
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure I only made one because I'm.

487
00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:20,880
Speaker 2: Actually impressing myself here. Wow, the legend. I love these

488
00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:21,560
Speaker 2: guys so much.

489
00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:24,000
Speaker 1: I know. I just love these cards as well.

490
00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:25,399
Speaker 2: Man, they love everything about it.

491
00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:28,840
Speaker 1: They're so clean, they're so fresh and yeah, I got

492
00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:31,840
Speaker 1: some great stories there. Okay, great this next one. I

493
00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:36,200
Speaker 1: love this guy former rapped up, but he's more known

494
00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:40,040
Speaker 1: on another team, especially for an All Star weekend in

495
00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:44,640
Speaker 1: the early nineties where he had his biggest moment when

496
00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:50,680
Speaker 1: he dominated in one of the events. Yes, yes, yes,

497
00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:51,959
Speaker 1: of course, Steve Brown.

498
00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:55,000
Speaker 2: There he is there the rebuck pumps.

499
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Speaker 1: That's right, that's right. I had a pair of them.

500
00:21:57,440 --> 00:21:59,040
Speaker 1: Did you grab a pair?

501
00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:01,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, everyone had a pair back in the day. Can

502
00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:04,879
Speaker 2: I tell you like those those Celtics teams again, they

503
00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:07,399
Speaker 2: were they were pretty crappy. There was a channel we

504
00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:09,159
Speaker 2: would get, a weird channel. I think it was like

505
00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:12,280
Speaker 2: a upn W A. I would get like Mike Gorman

506
00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:15,160
Speaker 2: and Tommy Heinzen and they were like the biggest homers.

507
00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:17,120
Speaker 2: But I really had a soft spot in my heart

508
00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:20,679
Speaker 2: for Dana Barrows. Yeah, I love Dana Barrows. He was

509
00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:23,880
Speaker 2: one of those guys like Dana Barrows, David ben Wah,

510
00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:27,159
Speaker 2: Antoine Carr like there, like random dudes from the nineties

511
00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:28,919
Speaker 2: that I always kind of had a soft spot in

512
00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:29,640
Speaker 2: my heart for ah.

513
00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:32,200
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, yeah. There's some great names you're throwing there.

514
00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:36,159
Speaker 1: Dave ben Wah, I remember he, uh there was there

515
00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:39,480
Speaker 1: was Benoit Benjamin from the Clippers, But again I don't

516
00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:41,840
Speaker 1: know if his name was pronounced ben Wa Benjamin, and

517
00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:44,960
Speaker 1: we just all called him Benoit. That's spelt the same

518
00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:47,639
Speaker 1: way as David ben Wah, But I don't remember anyone

519
00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:49,800
Speaker 1: really calling him ben Wa Benjamin. I think it was Benoit.

520
00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:52,600
Speaker 2: So another one I loved, Eric Murdoch.

521
00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:55,600
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, Eric Murdoch. He was a jazz

522
00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:57,600
Speaker 1: men too. Wasn't he ran a box? I think he

523
00:22:57,680 --> 00:23:00,320
Speaker 1: was a box too. Yeah, all right, great, no one

524
00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:06,440
Speaker 1: here arial another really good one because last night you

525
00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:10,720
Speaker 1: saw how can I how can I say this? Last

526
00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:14,119
Speaker 1: night a player had a game that really reminded you

527
00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:18,440
Speaker 1: of this guy because this guy was shooting the ball

528
00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:22,359
Speaker 1: beautifully last night, just like in fact, his brother was

529
00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:26,040
Speaker 1: also playing last night. So you saw there if he went.

530
00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:27,600
Speaker 2: Back for wait, is it their dad?

531
00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:31,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's their dad? Yeah yeah. On the happening on

532
00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:33,480
Speaker 1: the Hornets there, Big Dell Curry.

533
00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:36,400
Speaker 2: Legend, Yeah, still does the broadcast, right, Yeah.

534
00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:38,840
Speaker 1: He does. He and Eric Collins actually are one of

535
00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:42,760
Speaker 1: the I think one of the most enjoyable duos because

536
00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:45,000
Speaker 1: Eric Collins goes you know, you're talking about Tommy Hines

537
00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:47,639
Speaker 1: and Mike Gorman big homers. I mean Eric Collins is

538
00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:51,879
Speaker 1: as well, but in a really enthusiasteering Oh my god. Yeah,

539
00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:52,639
Speaker 1: and it's great.

540
00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:55,840
Speaker 2: Shout out to Jeff Hornisick over there, former next coach. Yeah, yeah,

541
00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:56,480
Speaker 2: he's in the shot.

542
00:23:56,800 --> 00:23:57,520
Speaker 1: He's one.

543
00:23:57,560 --> 00:23:59,560
Speaker 2: Was the man I loved when Drake broke out the

544
00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:02,520
Speaker 2: old Curry jersey. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was a game

545
00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:03,480
Speaker 2: one of the finals.

546
00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:07,760
Speaker 1: Definitely was in Toronto. Yeah, game one or two. Yeah,

547
00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:09,359
Speaker 1: game one or two. I think maybe maybe it was

548
00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:11,160
Speaker 1: game one because I was talking. He was talking trash

549
00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:13,879
Speaker 1: to Draymond afterwards, and then they lost game two, so

550
00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:18,040
Speaker 1: probably wasn't saying so much. But yeah. Jeff Horner second,

551
00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:20,560
Speaker 1: that was his one season in Philadelphia after the Charles

552
00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:22,399
Speaker 1: Barkley trade. Then he went to Threats I think just

553
00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:26,880
Speaker 1: after that, to Utah just after that. Okay, another one here,

554
00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:30,920
Speaker 1: so talking about the blood in the garden, this guy

555
00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:36,119
Speaker 1: was involved in one of the biggest trades that really

556
00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:37,120
Speaker 1: sort of helped set.

557
00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:38,920
Speaker 2: Up okay, No, okay, I thought you were going I

558
00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:40,600
Speaker 2: thought you were going in a different route there. Okay.

559
00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:45,960
Speaker 1: This guy was actually from New York. He got traded

560
00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:50,159
Speaker 1: and really did help the Chicago Bulls and it was

561
00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:51,880
Speaker 1: a big, big trade. And you've got to give Jerry

562
00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:53,879
Speaker 1: Krause credit credit because he made it.

563
00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:55,960
Speaker 2: And to be clear, not a New Yorker. He was

564
00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:57,280
Speaker 2: on the necks and went to the balls.

565
00:24:57,359 --> 00:25:01,040
Speaker 1: That's right, that's right, Bill, Bill cart dolla Bill as

566
00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:01,840
Speaker 1: he was doing there.

567
00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:05,560
Speaker 2: One of the weirdest, right remember that? Oh yeah, like

568
00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:10,119
Speaker 2: it was bizarre, yes, yeah. And for Oakley, And what

569
00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:13,840
Speaker 2: a great story. In the Oakley book. Oakley was at

570
00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:18,600
Speaker 2: Tyson Spinks with Michael Jordan. Did you read the Oakley book?

571
00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:19,520
Speaker 1: No, I haven't seen that one.

572
00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:22,080
Speaker 2: No, oh, you would enjoy it. I have it somewhere here.

573
00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:23,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, I have it right here.

574
00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:25,399
Speaker 2: Let me give a shout out to Frank Iola because

575
00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:31,360
Speaker 2: it's a it's actually a really great, great read. It's

576
00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:36,520
Speaker 2: called The Last Enforcer Charles Oakley forward by Michael Jordan.

577
00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:38,760
Speaker 2: By the way, Yeah, they're good buds. He was at

578
00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:42,680
Speaker 2: Tyson Spinks and I believe nineteen eighty seven with mj

579
00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:46,240
Speaker 2: and he was sitting next to him and word comes

580
00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:48,920
Speaker 2: through the media row that he has just been traded

581
00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:53,199
Speaker 2: to the Knicks and he's sitting with MJ. And in

582
00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:55,719
Speaker 2: the book, he's he asks MJ like, did you know

583
00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:57,639
Speaker 2: about this? Like we're buzzs? Did you know that this

584
00:25:57,760 --> 00:25:59,440
Speaker 2: was in the works? And he's like, yeah, they kind

585
00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:01,359
Speaker 2: of asked me about it, but I wasn't sure and

586
00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:03,199
Speaker 2: I didn't want it. And he talks about how it

587
00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:05,040
Speaker 2: was like a little bit awkward, but he believed that

588
00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:07,199
Speaker 2: he didn't like stab him in the back. Yeah, just

589
00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:08,520
Speaker 2: like I love stories like that.

590
00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:11,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, well I think I mean, you see it. We've

591
00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:13,600
Speaker 1: seen it just recently actually with Charles Oakley, Like the

592
00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:16,199
Speaker 1: beef between him and Isaiah Thomas is still there. You know.

593
00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:19,200
Speaker 1: He was saying how Isaiah just wanted to be like Michael,

594
00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:22,320
Speaker 1: and then he was also saying about how, you know,

595
00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:24,440
Speaker 1: Yannis would come off the bench. I mean, that's that's

596
00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:28,080
Speaker 1: slightly different. But when Isaiah was asked about that on

597
00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:30,520
Speaker 1: NBA TV and he was really going back at Oakley,

598
00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:32,920
Speaker 1: So you know, there's still that bad blood there between them.

599
00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:35,439
Speaker 1: Because Oakley, You're right, I don't think he holds it

600
00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:38,040
Speaker 1: against Michael. I think he's still friends with him, but.

601
00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:39,600
Speaker 2: Very good friends.

602
00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:42,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, that that's good. That fight I remember that fight

603
00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:44,880
Speaker 1: was huge Tyson Spink. That was a first round knockout

604
00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:49,240
Speaker 1: by Tyson and oh my god, he just destroyed him

605
00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:51,680
Speaker 1: in that He nearly he had him on the ropes too,

606
00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:54,879
Speaker 1: and he just loaded up that right sort of uppercut

607
00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:57,320
Speaker 1: and pulled out. If he had unloaded that he could

608
00:26:57,320 --> 00:27:00,320
Speaker 1: have killed Sphinx. I think like it was just credible

609
00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:03,320
Speaker 1: that fight ferocious. Oh my god. Yeah. Yeah. Is he

610
00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:05,280
Speaker 1: coming back, Mike Tyson? Is he fighting again?

611
00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:08,360
Speaker 2: Well, he had that fight a couple of years ago

612
00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:11,639
Speaker 2: against Roy Jones, you know, in November of twenty twenty,

613
00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:14,000
Speaker 2: and he's still training. He said he's done.

614
00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:14,800
Speaker 1: Yeah.

615
00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:17,560
Speaker 2: I didn't think he'd come back in you know, twenty

616
00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:19,800
Speaker 2: twenty either, So never count him out.

617
00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:22,320
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. Well that's the thing with most boxes, isn't it.

618
00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:26,040
Speaker 1: They never really retire, you know. Just quickly before we

619
00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:28,400
Speaker 1: move on here, what about AMR Kahan. I think he's

620
00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:29,560
Speaker 1: going to retire now, isn't he?

621
00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:32,199
Speaker 2: Yes, he just lost to cal Brook ye over in

622
00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:33,840
Speaker 2: the UK. Are you a big boxing fan?

623
00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:35,640
Speaker 1: Well, you know I have followed it. You know growing

624
00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:37,840
Speaker 1: up in Australia, we you know, we used to have

625
00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:41,520
Speaker 1: like do you remember Jess yeahs. I went to Cost

626
00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:44,800
Speaker 1: Jazoo and Ricky Hatton in Manchester in two thousand. Yeah

627
00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:46,960
Speaker 1: that was over. Yeah, no, I lived. I was living

628
00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:48,520
Speaker 1: in London at the time, so I went up to it.

629
00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:52,919
Speaker 1: That was an incredible fight because you know, Ricky Hatton

630
00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:56,440
Speaker 1: was needed that fight, but cost Jazoo was I can't

631
00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:58,560
Speaker 1: remember his exact record going into it, but that went

632
00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:00,920
Speaker 1: eleven of twelve rounds and then cost couldn't come out

633
00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:04,359
Speaker 1: off the off the stool, and it was just an

634
00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:05,400
Speaker 1: incredible moment there.

635
00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:07,280
Speaker 2: To be in man you got to experience when he

636
00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:10,920
Speaker 2: comes to the bloom. Oh yeah, yeah, that's legendary, shir

637
00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:11,320
Speaker 2: it was.

638
00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:13,919
Speaker 1: It was an unreal weekend there and and that I

639
00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:16,240
Speaker 1: remember being there for that. And then not too long

640
00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:20,760
Speaker 1: after that, Hadton took on Floyd Mayweather in Vegas. I

641
00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:22,720
Speaker 1: put like a hundred bucks on Ricky Hatton. I thought,

642
00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:24,560
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna win, and you know, he just

643
00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:27,080
Speaker 1: couldn't hit him. He did like Floyd just I mean,

644
00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:30,520
Speaker 1: I'm talking to the expert here, but Floyd just it

645
00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:33,880
Speaker 1: was evading everything and Ricky just ran out of punches

646
00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:35,960
Speaker 1: to throw, I think, and then and then Floyd just

647
00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:37,359
Speaker 1: landed a couple and it was all over.

648
00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:41,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, Floyd was was when it comes to

649
00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:45,680
Speaker 2: defensive boxing, maybe the greatest ever. And I know people

650
00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:47,600
Speaker 2: don't love him, but you got to get credit. But

651
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:49,960
Speaker 2: those Ricky handfights were amazing. Yeah. I mean, there's a

652
00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:52,000
Speaker 2: rich history. And there's a new guy now or newish

653
00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:54,440
Speaker 2: guy named George Cambosas. I don't know if you saw him.

654
00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:56,960
Speaker 2: He'd beat t fe Ma Lopez and that was a

655
00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:58,600
Speaker 2: huge upset. I think he was like an eleven to

656
00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:01,000
Speaker 2: one Hunderdug or something like that. Was at the Hulu

657
00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:04,120
Speaker 2: Theater right attached to Madison Square Garden. And now the

658
00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:06,720
Speaker 2: word is he's gonna defend his titles that he just

659
00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:08,880
Speaker 2: won in Australia and they're going to go to some

660
00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:12,840
Speaker 2: big stadium seventy eighty thousand people and maybe again Ed

661
00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:14,680
Speaker 2: Devin he and he's gonna go over there and fight him.

662
00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:17,960
Speaker 2: So he's great, a lot of great fighter And in MMA,

663
00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:19,920
Speaker 2: I don't know if you watch a lot of UFC,

664
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:22,240
Speaker 2: but there's I mean there's a guy named tatwey Vasa

665
00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:26,240
Speaker 2: from Western Sydney with the showy Robert Whittaker's bread. There's

666
00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:27,000
Speaker 2: a ton of great fighter.

667
00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:29,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, Robert Whittaker. I definitely know that name for sure,

668
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:31,880
Speaker 1: because now, yeah, when I grew up, like, do you

669
00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:34,440
Speaker 1: know Jeff Fannick, do you know that name at all? Yeah? Yeah,

670
00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:37,680
Speaker 1: So he and Azuma Nelson fought in nineteen ninety three

671
00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:41,320
Speaker 1: and it was a fight where Fannick won, but Don

672
00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:43,160
Speaker 1: King sort of was behind the scenes and it was

673
00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:46,520
Speaker 1: a draw. And apparently I saw this just on an Australian

674
00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:48,640
Speaker 1: TV show the other day. They're going to go back

675
00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:52,600
Speaker 1: and award the championship back to Jeff Finick for some reason.

676
00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:54,280
Speaker 1: I'd have to dig into it a little bit more.

677
00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:57,000
Speaker 1: But that was an incredible fight because a whole of

678
00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:59,480
Speaker 1: Australia was behind him, and I think in that fight

679
00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:01,880
Speaker 1: he broke both of his hands and still beat him up,

680
00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:04,160
Speaker 1: but it was you know, it was a classic Don

681
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:06,560
Speaker 1: King moment too. He didn't want to have his guy lose.

682
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:10,680
Speaker 1: So yeah, it's great. But yeah, boxing was huge in Australia.

683
00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:12,600
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, we used to we used to

684
00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:15,400
Speaker 1: all follow it, and especially the big heavyweights. I mean,

685
00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:18,320
Speaker 1: you know when when Tyson and you know Tyson Fort

686
00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:21,600
Speaker 1: Larry Holmes and Frank Bruno. I think he fought him

687
00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:24,680
Speaker 1: twice in fact, and poor old Frank Bruner. He was

688
00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:26,560
Speaker 1: a huge man. But I've never seen a man that big,

689
00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:29,680
Speaker 1: looks so scared in the ring before a fight, like

690
00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:33,600
Speaker 1: just thinking like I might not survive this one.

691
00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:37,240
Speaker 2: But look up T two Vasa. He's a huge fan

692
00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:39,120
Speaker 2: favorite now in the UFC. I think he's won four

693
00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:41,960
Speaker 2: in a row, knocked them all out. Just had a

694
00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:45,040
Speaker 2: huge win last month against the guy who's from Houston

695
00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:45,800
Speaker 2: in Houston.

696
00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:46,120
Speaker 1: Wow.

697
00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:48,800
Speaker 2: And every time he wins, he's gigantic. He's like two

698
00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:51,240
Speaker 2: sixty five. He walks around on like three ten. He wins,

699
00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:53,320
Speaker 2: he gets on the cage like stone called Steve Austin.

700
00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:55,720
Speaker 2: Someone throws him a shoe, he pours the beard, he

701
00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:57,600
Speaker 2: does it on the cage. Yeah, it's amazing.

702
00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:00,880
Speaker 1: That's wild stuff. All right, back to the cards here,

703
00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:02,440
Speaker 1: We've got a few more to go in this pack. Now.

704
00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:06,240
Speaker 1: This guy was a big Dukie and he was believed

705
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:08,720
Speaker 1: I believed his nickname was Larry Bird without the nose

706
00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:11,000
Speaker 1: when he was coming out of Duke High draft pick

707
00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:13,880
Speaker 1: by the Cleveland Cavaliers never really panned out though, as

708
00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:17,800
Speaker 1: sort of as high as he was billed. Danny Ferry.

709
00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:23,000
Speaker 1: There you go, yes, yeah, yeah, big Danny. I remember

710
00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:25,520
Speaker 1: him because Andrew Gays and Seaton Hall knocked out Duke

711
00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:28,720
Speaker 1: in eighty nine. Yeah, and everyone was said, you know,

712
00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:30,600
Speaker 1: this is the guy they got to stop Danny Ferry.

713
00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:32,880
Speaker 1: But yeah, they couldn't stop Andrew Gays.

714
00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:35,280
Speaker 2: He was Australian legend.

715
00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:39,640
Speaker 1: That's right, that's right. We're getting some good Australian talking here.

716
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:41,320
Speaker 1: This is great. I didn't set it up this way,

717
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:45,360
Speaker 1: by the way, it's just natural. All right. This next guy,

718
00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:48,760
Speaker 1: I'm sure you're gonna love this guy because he did

719
00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:53,000
Speaker 1: play a part of those Knicks teams in the early nineties.

720
00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:56,360
Speaker 1: He came over in a trade, had a very very

721
00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:00,320
Speaker 1: big moment. In fact, in the book, he played a

722
00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:01,960
Speaker 1: couple of years there in New York, was a point

723
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:06,960
Speaker 1: guard and point guard. Yeah, he's now a color commentator

724
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:08,640
Speaker 1: for the team that he spent most of his career.

725
00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:10,120
Speaker 1: In fact, he had his journey.

726
00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:13,479
Speaker 2: Just have a great moment with him. Number twenty. Orlando

727
00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:14,360
Speaker 2: black Man, No, not.

728
00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:16,480
Speaker 1: Orlando black Man. Oh, Derek Capper.

729
00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:19,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, sorry, you could kind of go the same way.

730
00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:22,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure, for sure kind of go the same way.

731
00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:24,360
Speaker 2: Yeah. And actually the moment that I was talking about

732
00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:27,280
Speaker 2: was was with Derek Carper. Both guys were Dallas guys,

733
00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:32,600
Speaker 2: both guys' point guards. Derek Harper was obviously the starter

734
00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:36,880
Speaker 2: from Central Illinois. I believe Rare Carper is it central Illinois?

735
00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:39,560
Speaker 1: Think he's from Florida actually, because I had him on

736
00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:41,920
Speaker 1: once and he was talking about Vernon Maxwell and they

737
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:42,800
Speaker 1: were both from Florida.

738
00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:44,960
Speaker 2: Let me see if tremendous nostrils.

739
00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:50,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, you're right. Actually his college was his college

740
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:51,760
Speaker 1: was Illinois. Here, you're right, Derek.

741
00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:56,720
Speaker 2: Harper, Illinois, not Central Illinois. Right. Yeah. And the first

742
00:32:56,840 --> 00:33:00,520
Speaker 2: game that I ever did sidelines for, yeah, it was

743
00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:04,640
Speaker 2: Pelicans MAVs. And I'm super nervous and I'm in the

744
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:07,200
Speaker 2: bathroom and I'm at the urinal and who the hell

745
00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:09,520
Speaker 2: is standing next to me number eleven for the New

746
00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:11,480
Speaker 2: York next Derek Harper, And he's like, what's up, man,

747
00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:14,280
Speaker 2: how are you? I'm like, what the fuck? Sorry, I mean.

748
00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:15,440
Speaker 1: That's fine, man, let a flies.

749
00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:17,600
Speaker 2: I was like, geez, Louise. Derek Carry like, this is

750
00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:20,680
Speaker 2: I'm working with Mike Breen, Jeff Van Gundy cozing. This

751
00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:23,400
Speaker 2: is like, this is one of his first games back

752
00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:27,080
Speaker 2: for the MAVs after the year off. Yeah. Yeah, Derek Carper.

753
00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:29,280
Speaker 2: I loved that guy. He was clutch. Harper was clutch.

754
00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:32,200
Speaker 1: Yeah. And he had the big fight there with Jojo English.

755
00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:34,840
Speaker 2: Yes, and it was right in front of David Stern.

756
00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:35,880
Speaker 1: Yeah.

757
00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:37,480
Speaker 2: That was the infamous Tony Kuk coach game.

758
00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:40,160
Speaker 1: Yeah that's right. And uh yeah, people wondering why is

759
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:44,080
Speaker 1: Derek Harper fighting him? But that white line favor happened? Okay,

760
00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:44,960
Speaker 1: this is that count?

761
00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:46,560
Speaker 2: Am I still am? I still yeah?

762
00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:48,600
Speaker 1: That's fine, that's fine. I mean Orlando again. Yeah, he

763
00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:52,560
Speaker 1: came up. Yeah close enough, close enough. Now this next

764
00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:55,040
Speaker 1: one is a tough one because we get these occasionally.

765
00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:57,480
Speaker 1: I've never even heard of this guy. I'm pretty sure

766
00:33:57,520 --> 00:33:59,720
Speaker 1: it didn't last all that long in the NBA. He

767
00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:05,360
Speaker 1: was out of Florida State. He was a forward. I

768
00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:07,360
Speaker 1: don't know. I mean, honestly, I'm just gonna give you

769
00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:09,280
Speaker 1: this one because I don't think I named Doug Edwards.

770
00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:14,960
Speaker 1: Does that ring a bell for you at all? Utah,

771
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:17,680
Speaker 1: he's on the Hawks in the in the card here, but.

772
00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:20,360
Speaker 2: He doesn't even have a team. What's going on? He

773
00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:21,160
Speaker 2: doesn't even count.

774
00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:23,439
Speaker 1: That one doesn't count, all right, This next one does

775
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:28,000
Speaker 1: count because this guy, he's one of those rare guys

776
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:31,160
Speaker 1: who only played with two teams throughout his career.

777
00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:31,399
Speaker 3: Right.

778
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:34,200
Speaker 1: But it wasn't like he played his entire career for

779
00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:36,160
Speaker 1: for you know, all the seasons and then at the

780
00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:37,880
Speaker 1: end of his year, at the end of his career,

781
00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:41,640
Speaker 1: he changed. He changed mid career and then went back

782
00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:44,120
Speaker 1: after one season to the team that he was originally on.

783
00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:48,480
Speaker 1: He's got a very very famous shot where he's basically

784
00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:49,719
Speaker 1: stepping out of bounds but.

785
00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:53,600
Speaker 2: He's Chanelle and Elliott. Yes, what was that the Memorial

786
00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:57,040
Speaker 2: Day That's exactly the trail Bluer yep, where.

787
00:34:56,840 --> 00:35:01,520
Speaker 1: He's whoops, he's got yeah, the taking a kidney issue, right,

788
00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:04,319
Speaker 1: that's right, he had a transplant, and I think that

789
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:06,560
Speaker 1: was he was he was supposed to be traded to

790
00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:09,440
Speaker 1: the Rockets after he got traded to the Pistons, right,

791
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:12,200
Speaker 1: And I think the Rockets were like, we don't really

792
00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:14,120
Speaker 1: know with this kidney what's going to happen?

793
00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:17,200
Speaker 2: So and who's that over there? Is that Oliver Miller?

794
00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:18,920
Speaker 1: It looks like it yeah, yeah, I think that.

795
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:20,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, former Raptor.

796
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:23,439
Speaker 1: It's in fact, it says they're the preseason trade, which

797
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:27,279
Speaker 1: is interesting. There crazy all right, This next one, this

798
00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:30,839
Speaker 1: guy is very known for one block. It's the most

799
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:35,399
Speaker 1: famous block of his career anyway, because the guy's going

800
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:37,640
Speaker 1: up to try to dunk on him and this guy

801
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:40,439
Speaker 1: just says nope, and he stops it in his hand

802
00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:43,839
Speaker 1: and then he sort of cups the ball for the

803
00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:50,839
Speaker 1: Denver Nuggets. That's the one. That's the one.

804
00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:53,680
Speaker 2: Tell something about Lafonzoellas. One of the best things about

805
00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:55,719
Speaker 2: working at ESPN and you you know about this, like

806
00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:57,640
Speaker 2: you know, working NBA TV and all that, you just

807
00:35:57,640 --> 00:36:02,000
Speaker 2: see these random dudes walking around. This guy, Lafonzoellis might

808
00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:04,400
Speaker 2: have been the nicest person that I ever met at ESPN.

809
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:06,840
Speaker 2: Just see him at the cafeteria. I think he's like

810
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:09,640
Speaker 2: a quasi fan of MMA and might have seen me

811
00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:11,880
Speaker 2: on a broadcast and like came up to me and

812
00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:15,200
Speaker 2: couldn't have been sweeter and nicer. I was like, you're

813
00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:17,279
Speaker 2: the fan Zoellis, you went to Notre Dame, you played

814
00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:18,640
Speaker 2: for the Nuggets. I know. He's like, I don't know

815
00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:20,200
Speaker 2: if you know I used to play in the NBAM Like, what,

816
00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:23,560
Speaker 2: of course, I know who you are. Crazy crazy life.

817
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:26,799
Speaker 1: That's crazy because I don't remember seeing him on on

818
00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:28,920
Speaker 1: any like. Has he been an analyst or something like that.

819
00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:31,160
Speaker 2: He's a great college basketball college bastha.

820
00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:32,520
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, that works.

821
00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:33,640
Speaker 2: He still works for them.

822
00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:36,279
Speaker 1: Right, awesome? All right, Well you're definitely going to get

823
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:39,799
Speaker 1: this last guy here, because this guy was super famous

824
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:42,640
Speaker 1: in the nineties. Should be in the Hall of Fame.

825
00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:44,640
Speaker 1: He was nominated I think this year, but didn't make it,

826
00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:49,440
Speaker 1: and excuse me, had a huge role in the rivalry

827
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:53,200
Speaker 1: against the Knicks in the late nineties. Here and his

828
00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:56,439
Speaker 1: son he's not playing right now, but he's out injured.

829
00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:59,280
Speaker 1: His son has been a nick and he kept two steps.

830
00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:01,400
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, two step.

831
00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:05,080
Speaker 2: I hated him. Oh God, did I hate him. I

832
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:07,320
Speaker 2: hated him. Now I liked him on the Warriors. He

833
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:10,680
Speaker 2: was super cool on the Warriors. But Dolly, I was

834
00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:14,439
Speaker 2: just recently reminiscing about the nineteen ninety seven series. Of course,

835
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:16,680
Speaker 2: New York up three to one. They have that brawl

836
00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:20,720
Speaker 2: in uh in game five? Remember PJ. Brown and Charlie Ward.

837
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:24,600
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and this guy freaking killed them in Game seven.

838
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:25,680
Speaker 2: Horrible horrible.

839
00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:28,400
Speaker 1: Was that the game he hit seven threes or something

840
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:31,080
Speaker 1: like that, something like that. I know there's I know

841
00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:33,240
Speaker 1: there's a great video out there of him just getting

842
00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:35,960
Speaker 1: so hot. Marv I think is on the call and

843
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:39,959
Speaker 1: he's just firing away and the crowd is going nuts.

844
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:41,520
Speaker 1: And yeah, tough for a Knicks fan to watch.

845
00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:44,560
Speaker 2: But for just and if I'm being honest, I never

846
00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:47,000
Speaker 2: wanted his son. I couldn't. I couldn't get behind him.

847
00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:49,840
Speaker 2: I just couldn't the name if it was like, you know,

848
00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:52,640
Speaker 2: Jim Hardaway, maybe I can't root for him. I just

849
00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:55,320
Speaker 2: can't do it. He's an assistant coach, right. Is he

850
00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:56,160
Speaker 2: still with the Pistons.

851
00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:59,560
Speaker 1: I don't think so. He was with stan Van Gundy.

852
00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:03,040
Speaker 1: But I shot around with him in Melbourne in Australia

853
00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:04,960
Speaker 1: a few years ago when when a team he A

854
00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:07,520
Speaker 1: was in Australia for the pre World Cup games and

855
00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:10,640
Speaker 1: Tim Hardaway was there and he crossed me up and

856
00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:13,080
Speaker 1: then I crossed him up. And it was, you know,

857
00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:16,359
Speaker 1: like you're talking about experiences with people like you know,

858
00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:19,760
Speaker 1: having a piss with Derek Harper saying to Tim Hardaway,

859
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:21,880
Speaker 1: hey can you cross me up? And then can I

860
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:23,719
Speaker 1: cross you? Up and he's like, sure, let's do it.

861
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:25,719
Speaker 1: And you know he doesn't quite move as quickly as

862
00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:30,080
Speaker 1: he did, but one of those awesome experiences. And yeah,

863
00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:32,880
Speaker 1: he's great. In fact, he may be coming on here

864
00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:35,120
Speaker 1: at some point to pop some packs too. We've been

865
00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:36,560
Speaker 1: clinking to some people. Yeah, I'm not sure if it's

866
00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:39,759
Speaker 1: gonna happen or not, but hopefully it can happen. But okay, well,

867
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:41,839
Speaker 1: let's let's take a quick break, Ariel, if you can

868
00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:44,080
Speaker 1: stick around for it, we'll open another pack, why not

869
00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:47,319
Speaker 1: and talk some more hoops. So guys stick around. We'll

870
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:50,680
Speaker 1: be back in a few minutes. Welcome back to the

871
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:54,600
Speaker 1: Classic Factory. Here Lee ellis in the studio with JD

872
00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:57,919
Speaker 1: of course, and my special guest, the biggest Knicks fan

873
00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:01,799
Speaker 1: you'll ever know, Ariel Warne. Ariel, great job in the

874
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:04,040
Speaker 1: first pack. I think, apart from the Doug Edwards which

875
00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:06,279
Speaker 1: will give your pass on, I think, what was that

876
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:09,280
Speaker 1: fourteen for fifteen? Was it fifteen? Twelve eleven for twelve?

877
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:10,799
Speaker 1: Eleven for eleven, we'll call it eight.

878
00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:12,799
Speaker 2: I mean I was gonna say, Doug Edwards, you kind

879
00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:14,560
Speaker 2: of gave me the pass and then ask the past.

880
00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:17,279
Speaker 2: So I'm going twelve to fove alight, has anyone gone undefeated?

881
00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:21,560
Speaker 1: I don't think so. No, No, I don't think so.

882
00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:24,000
Speaker 1: So yeah, I should go back and check and get

883
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:26,120
Speaker 1: the leaderboard going out there, because again I know, you know,

884
00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:28,839
Speaker 1: Nate and Shay and those guys, they're like, hey, I

885
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:32,080
Speaker 1: know more than this guy, so you know. All right,

886
00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:34,040
Speaker 1: So well, let's go with another pack here. Now you

887
00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:37,520
Speaker 1: can choose again. We've got ninety two ninety three tops,

888
00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:41,160
Speaker 1: we've got Skybox ninety one ninety two upper decks, or

889
00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:42,799
Speaker 1: we can go a little bit closer to sort of

890
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:45,000
Speaker 1: the turn of the century here with the couple from

891
00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:48,759
Speaker 1: the two Thy year is upper deck, upper deck is

892
00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:50,120
Speaker 1: ninety one ninety two.

893
00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:52,640
Speaker 2: Let's go with that. Ninety two ninety three.

894
00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:56,799
Speaker 1: Ninety two to ninety three tops. Okay, perfect, all right,

895
00:39:56,920 --> 00:39:58,080
Speaker 1: let's see how it goes here.

896
00:39:58,520 --> 00:39:59,040
Speaker 2: I love this.

897
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:01,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's no no gum in here. I don't think

898
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:03,359
Speaker 1: that's funny. I've never found a pack that's had gum

899
00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:08,000
Speaker 1: in it. But anyway, okay, well this one, this first one,

900
00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:10,520
Speaker 1: well it's a bit of a sad one actually, because

901
00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:12,880
Speaker 1: this guy is no longer with us. But he was

902
00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:15,640
Speaker 1: a very good player in the nineties. He used the

903
00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:17,960
Speaker 1: sixth Man of the Year and he used the rock

904
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:19,560
Speaker 1: Ahead Band. He was one of the first guys to

905
00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:20,840
Speaker 1: sort of bring back the headband.

906
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:23,440
Speaker 2: One of those dudes that I held in high regard

907
00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:25,040
Speaker 2: as well, cliff Robinson.

908
00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:26,160
Speaker 1: The one Cliffy Robinson.

909
00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:30,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, sadly legend. Yeah, I love those Blazers teams. Yeah,

910
00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:31,640
Speaker 2: they were fun.

911
00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:33,759
Speaker 1: And he yeah, he came off the bench there and

912
00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:38,840
Speaker 1: you know for a couple of to the finals. Certainly

913
00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:42,200
Speaker 1: there we go, Cliffy Robinson.

914
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:47,120
Speaker 2: Oh, look at that multi camera shoot here. Aggressive All right.

915
00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:48,880
Speaker 1: Well this is a bit sticky, but it's only a

916
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:53,160
Speaker 1: checklist card, so I'll put that one to the side. Here, Okay,

917
00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:57,080
Speaker 1: this next one, I'm sure you'll remember because excuse me, well,

918
00:40:57,120 --> 00:40:59,279
Speaker 1: we're supposed to eat them. But like when we have

919
00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:00,200
Speaker 1: a special guest.

920
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:01,680
Speaker 2: What are we doing? What are we doing? By the way,

921
00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:03,359
Speaker 2: I didn't see it. Nice of you to, you know,

922
00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:04,600
Speaker 2: show yourself here. Jeez.

923
00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:08,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, Ariel, as you may or may not know. But

924
00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:11,759
Speaker 1: when we get a checklist card, Lee is supposed to

925
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:13,040
Speaker 1: eat it. Yeah, I'm supposed to eat it.

926
00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:16,239
Speaker 2: Would like legit eat it. By the way, I never

927
00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:18,960
Speaker 2: really understood the checklist, Like, what was the point who

928
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:19,719
Speaker 2: actually looked at this?

929
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:22,000
Speaker 1: I know, I know, it's just a filler. Really, I

930
00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:23,600
Speaker 1: mean that's the problem. You know.

931
00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:24,320
Speaker 2: That was a bummer.

932
00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:27,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right. This next guy you'll definitely get because

933
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:30,279
Speaker 1: he played on some of those early Bulls teams coming

934
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:33,359
Speaker 1: off the bench, a big guy out of Oklahoma, and

935
00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:36,799
Speaker 1: you currently hear him still on the Bulls broadcast.

936
00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:46,319
Speaker 3: He's the color commentator, uh my blanking Stacy King, Stacey King,

937
00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:46,920
Speaker 3: Stacy King.

938
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:49,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right, Yeah, he does.

939
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:53,120
Speaker 2: He does good work. Also Adam Amine, Yes, those great work.

940
00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:57,400
Speaker 2: I actually worked on that that that Raptors Celtics Christmas

941
00:41:57,400 --> 00:42:01,120
Speaker 2: game Adam Amine and Richard Jefferson and Adam was great.

942
00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:03,239
Speaker 2: He left ESPN to take this job. It was a

943
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:05,239
Speaker 2: big deal for him. He's a Chicago guy. He works

944
00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:06,920
Speaker 2: with Stacey and every time I hear it, like with

945
00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:10,239
Speaker 2: the Damar you know, buzzer beaters and all that. I

946
00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:12,600
Speaker 2: think he does a phenomenal job play by play.

947
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:15,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, he took over for Neil Funk there and I

948
00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:17,080
Speaker 1: think he's been really good for Chicago. I think they've

949
00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:20,160
Speaker 1: got a great combination there. So that's great. All right.

950
00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:22,799
Speaker 1: This next guy You'll definitely know him because he set

951
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:25,720
Speaker 1: a record in the nineties in nineteen ninety. In fact,

952
00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:29,920
Speaker 1: it still stands today. It's one of those ones. Probably man,

953
00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:32,080
Speaker 1: surprise that has who's that?

954
00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:33,560
Speaker 2: Is it an assist record?

955
00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:37,000
Speaker 1: It is an assist record? Yes, Scott the Skyles is

956
00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:39,120
Speaker 1: the limit? Yes, God, yeah, And.

957
00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:42,200
Speaker 2: How could I be so good at this? That's what

958
00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:42,839
Speaker 2: I want to know.

959
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:46,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe you should be in the in the basketball

960
00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:47,359
Speaker 1: world full time.

961
00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:50,359
Speaker 2: Tremendous hair, right, and then how often do you see

962
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:53,520
Speaker 2: someone balding in the NBA? Let it? You know, let

963
00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:56,040
Speaker 2: it go. I actually thought I got a raw deal

964
00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:57,640
Speaker 2: as a head coach. I thought he was a lot

965
00:42:57,640 --> 00:42:59,560
Speaker 2: better and then, you know, it just I feel like

966
00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:02,279
Speaker 2: it just kind of ended unceremoniously for him and one

967
00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:05,520
Speaker 2: of those early building blocks to the eventual you know,

968
00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:08,360
Speaker 2: Shack Penny dynasty. Ever, she's a thirty for thirty on

969
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:10,920
Speaker 2: those teams, on them, it's a really great one. I

970
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:11,719
Speaker 2: really enjoyed that one.

971
00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:15,160
Speaker 1: It was this magic moment that, Yeah, you just wonder,

972
00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:17,200
Speaker 1: really what would have happened if Shack had stayed and

973
00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:19,520
Speaker 1: not going to the Lakers there, because Penny's career kind

974
00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:23,000
Speaker 1: of tailed off after that as well, unfortunately, but yeah,

975
00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:24,000
Speaker 1: that was some reason.

976
00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:26,480
Speaker 2: There's a there's a great scene in that thirty for

977
00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:29,320
Speaker 2: thirty about that NB and NBC broadcast on a Sunday

978
00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:31,360
Speaker 2: afternoon where they weren't sure I Shack was going to

979
00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:32,920
Speaker 2: play Ornine. He shows up in the middle of the game.

980
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:33,719
Speaker 2: You remember that whole thing?

981
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:35,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, crazy.

982
00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:37,680
Speaker 2: I mean, like it was crazy how it all played out.

983
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:40,600
Speaker 2: I remember watching it. Brian Hill was the coach and

984
00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:43,200
Speaker 2: there was some beef between them, and Jim Gray reported

985
00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:46,880
Speaker 2: that he was being punished. I mean, just amazing memories.

986
00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:48,960
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it was. I mean that was monumental. When

987
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:50,600
Speaker 1: he left Orlando to saw him with the Lakers.

988
00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:53,120
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, just I remember where I was when I

989
00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:56,040
Speaker 2: found out, really in the newspaper. I was in summer camp.

990
00:43:57,400 --> 00:44:01,479
Speaker 2: What was that, nineties ninety six? It was six reading

991
00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:04,120
Speaker 2: in the newspaper USA today and you're like, Shaq going

992
00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:05,840
Speaker 2: to the Lakers and that was a crazy summer with

993
00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:09,319
Speaker 2: like massive deals, Like I feel like just like a

994
00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:12,040
Speaker 2: seismic shift in the league. By the way, have you

995
00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:14,200
Speaker 2: seen winning Time yet on HBO?

996
00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:16,719
Speaker 1: But like as one not yet because it's why to

997
00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:19,160
Speaker 1: watch the man, I'm gonna get to it. Yeah, it's

998
00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:19,759
Speaker 1: like you love it.

999
00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:25,160
Speaker 2: Only one No. Eleven part on that first season, only

1000
00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:29,319
Speaker 2: mainly the the the Magic Rookie Year, Jerry Buss Buying

1001
00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:32,479
Speaker 2: the Lakers. I actually just interviewed Jeff Perlman, who wrote

1002
00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:34,919
Speaker 2: the book Short Time that was you know, turned into

1003
00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:37,319
Speaker 2: the show. And you know sometimes when they turn these

1004
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:40,399
Speaker 2: these these real sports stories into shows or movies, it's

1005
00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:43,600
Speaker 2: a little hokey. Yeah, it is so good. I've only

1006
00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:46,960
Speaker 2: there's only been one episode that aired every Sunday, and

1007
00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:49,400
Speaker 2: I feel like for you, like a real old school

1008
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:51,120
Speaker 2: basketball fan, you will like it as well. Like there's

1009
00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:54,920
Speaker 2: like Norm Nixon is there, and and just like Jamal Wilkes,

1010
00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:56,840
Speaker 2: like just some classic obviously not the real guys, but

1011
00:44:57,600 --> 00:45:01,160
Speaker 2: their characters. And you learn like if Jerry West was

1012
00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:03,760
Speaker 2: as he is being portrayed in the show, Jerry West

1013
00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:05,680
Speaker 2: isn't the saint that we all thought he was.

1014
00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:08,319
Speaker 1: Well. Mark Stein had some words about that in his

1015
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:11,239
Speaker 1: sub stack. He didn't think it was an accurate portrayal.

1016
00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:13,840
Speaker 1: Oh interesting, I have to read that. Read that, Okay,

1017
00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:16,200
Speaker 1: it's very very good read. Yeah, but that was for me,

1018
00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:18,480
Speaker 1: I mean, my first sort of love was the Lakers

1019
00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:19,200
Speaker 1: just because.

1020
00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:20,200
Speaker 2: You know you're got to watch it.

1021
00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:24,400
Speaker 1: Then yeah, well great, but next card is a legendary.

1022
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:27,319
Speaker 1: He started his career and he ended his career with

1023
00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:31,800
Speaker 1: the Lakers, but he never won a championship with the Lakers.

1024
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:35,480
Speaker 1: In fact, he had his heartbreaking moment came against the Lakers,

1025
00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:39,279
Speaker 1: and he was involved in a huge trade. Was this, Yeah,

1026
00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:42,200
Speaker 1: he was involved in a trade or big trade in

1027
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:48,280
Speaker 1: ninety six to get a special special plan to the Lakers.

1028
00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:49,240
Speaker 2: Eddie Jones.

1029
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:53,880
Speaker 1: No, not Eddie Jones. This guy's not an American. Oh yeah,

1030
00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:59,400
Speaker 1: oh bloody Vladi, there you go. Okay, yes, he was

1031
00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:01,120
Speaker 1: in the Kobe trade, wasn't he? To Charlotte?

1032
00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:03,120
Speaker 2: He was? He was, Yes. I mean if you would

1033
00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:05,279
Speaker 2: have given me the not an American upper bat, that

1034
00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:06,000
Speaker 2: would have been easy.

1035
00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:07,799
Speaker 1: Okay, I'll give you if you can tell me who

1036
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:09,320
Speaker 1: the ref is in the background there, I'll give you

1037
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:09,719
Speaker 1: that one.

1038
00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:09,919
Speaker 2: Then.

1039
00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:13,759
Speaker 1: Oh damn, you should know him. He's an ESPN guy.

1040
00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:16,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, they go to hell. Yes, of course they

1041
00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:19,720
Speaker 2: go to him in the freaking thing in New Jersey. Yeah, oh,

1042
00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:20,919
Speaker 2: let's send it over to.

1043
00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:26,880
Speaker 1: Oh my god, he's going to kill He never disagrees,

1044
00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:29,960
Speaker 1: He never disagrees with the calls that made made by

1045
00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:30,480
Speaker 1: the refs.

1046
00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:35,040
Speaker 2: Oh my god, first name Steve, Oh, Steve Javis.

1047
00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:37,439
Speaker 1: That's right. Did you ever meet him when your time there?

1048
00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:40,880
Speaker 2: No, I guess he was away in that cacas.

1049
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:45,040
Speaker 1: He wasn't an ESPN person per se. All right, this

1050
00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:47,960
Speaker 1: next guy, he was a one time All Star. I

1051
00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:50,520
Speaker 1: think he made it in ninety two in Orlando. A

1052
00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:55,320
Speaker 1: diminutive point guard. Had one. He had one huge season.

1053
00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:59,200
Speaker 1: He won Most Improved Player, average like twenty six and ten,

1054
00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:02,200
Speaker 1: all the bullets, and then I think he was traded

1055
00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:04,760
Speaker 1: to the Nuggets after that. Had a kind of unusual

1056
00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:06,600
Speaker 1: shooting style because he was so small, he had to

1057
00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:07,879
Speaker 1: sort of heave the ball up.

1058
00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:13,640
Speaker 2: I know exactly who you're talking about it and oh

1059
00:47:13,719 --> 00:47:14,440
Speaker 2: my god.

1060
00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:17,680
Speaker 1: I mean, remarkable one season, the average like twenty six

1061
00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:21,440
Speaker 1: and ten. But then wow, sort of just that was it.

1062
00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:25,799
Speaker 1: He peeked, this is wait, this is gonna kill me.

1063
00:47:26,120 --> 00:47:30,120
Speaker 1: Obviously it's not Muggsy Bogue. No, obviously it's not mam No,

1064
00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:30,719
Speaker 1: definitely not.

1065
00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:33,400
Speaker 2: I see him, I see his face, I see the bullets, jersey,

1066
00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:35,399
Speaker 2: I see everything. A short guy.

1067
00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:37,320
Speaker 1: He's got a very simple name.

1068
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:41,040
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes, something like, oh Edwards.

1069
00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:43,160
Speaker 1: Not quite, but you're you know, you're along along the

1070
00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:45,120
Speaker 1: you know, think of just a simple.

1071
00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:46,600
Speaker 2: It's going to kill me. This is gonna this is

1072
00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:49,080
Speaker 2: gonna bother me for days.

1073
00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:51,160
Speaker 1: If you were to scratch your throat, you might sort

1074
00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:55,680
Speaker 1: of scratch something that might remind you of him. Think

1075
00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:57,400
Speaker 1: about what's in there? What can you feel when you

1076
00:47:57,440 --> 00:47:58,320
Speaker 1: scratch your neck.

1077
00:47:58,160 --> 00:48:05,760
Speaker 2: There Adam's apple? Oh, yes, yes, Adams, Adams, Adams, Oh

1078
00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:09,279
Speaker 2: you've given Wow. I'm like like, this is this is

1079
00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:13,160
Speaker 2: me turning forty. Yeah, it's gonna kill me. Goy.

1080
00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:18,239
Speaker 1: Just think of the most famous basketballer ever, greatest basketballer ever,

1081
00:48:18,280 --> 00:48:20,280
Speaker 1: and then just scratch your neck and it'll come. Yeah.

1082
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:22,759
Speaker 2: There it is, number twenty. He was number twenty three, right,

1083
00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:24,279
Speaker 2: Adams number ten?

1084
00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:27,839
Speaker 1: Well, he's number ten here for Washington. I don't he

1085
00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:30,000
Speaker 1: may have been twenty three at another stop in his.

1086
00:48:29,880 --> 00:48:31,080
Speaker 2: Career, but bad one.

1087
00:48:31,239 --> 00:48:35,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, but to see he's one of those memorable unmemorable guys. Yeah,

1088
00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:39,919
Speaker 1: because it's like you just don't really like after this one.

1089
00:48:40,239 --> 00:48:42,360
Speaker 2: He was like a discown muggsy board basically.

1090
00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:46,399
Speaker 1: Yeah. And he you know, erupted had that great season, yes,

1091
00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:51,080
Speaker 1: and then it was like downhill after that. So, okay,

1092
00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:53,479
Speaker 1: this next one, this one's a bit of a tough one.

1093
00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:56,399
Speaker 1: I really haven't got much to offer about this guy

1094
00:48:56,440 --> 00:48:58,000
Speaker 1: other than to let me see if I can give you.

1095
00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:01,480
Speaker 1: So his first name is a famous Lakers executive who

1096
00:49:01,520 --> 00:49:05,520
Speaker 1: were just talking about. And then, oh man, I don't

1097
00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:08,279
Speaker 1: even know really where to go with this guy. He

1098
00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:16,919
Speaker 1: was out of Louisiana State six eight him Orlando. Yes,

1099
00:49:18,440 --> 00:49:18,719
Speaker 1: is it.

1100
00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:23,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not Jeff Turner.

1101
00:49:23,120 --> 00:49:25,120
Speaker 1: Oh no, it's Jerry Reynolds. So you've got the you

1102
00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:27,960
Speaker 1: got the fees. Yeah, I mean, you know, we've had

1103
00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:31,000
Speaker 1: a pretty good crop of guys, to be honest, so

1104
00:49:31,120 --> 00:49:32,920
Speaker 1: you have to sort of just that is a tough one.

1105
00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:34,200
Speaker 1: That's a tough one. Yeah.

1106
00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:36,719
Speaker 2: I wouldn't know who Jerry. I mean, if Jerry Reynolds,

1107
00:49:36,760 --> 00:49:38,640
Speaker 2: you know, came to my house right now to say hello,

1108
00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:39,160
Speaker 2: I wouldn't know.

1109
00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:42,080
Speaker 1: No, No, I don't think many of us would. Okay,

1110
00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:43,960
Speaker 1: we've got we've got another one of these weird ones.

1111
00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:46,279
Speaker 1: We've got a club membership offer. I haven't seen one

1112
00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:51,760
Speaker 1: of those, but yeah, So Canadian orders are six dollars

1113
00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:55,120
Speaker 1: each extra, it's twenty nine to ninety five for Americans,

1114
00:49:55,200 --> 00:49:57,840
Speaker 1: thirty five for Canadians. Okay, next one, Well you'll definitely

1115
00:49:57,840 --> 00:50:00,200
Speaker 1: get this next one, because this guy's most famous moment

1116
00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:02,840
Speaker 1: in his career came when he got dunked on so

1117
00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:07,040
Speaker 1: hard that he's got a nickname from being dunked on,

1118
00:50:08,120 --> 00:50:10,279
Speaker 1: because the guy who threw it down on him just

1119
00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:14,360
Speaker 1: climbed the ladder, hammered it down and then pointed at him.

1120
00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:16,600
Speaker 1: And he was just pointing at him the whole time

1121
00:50:16,719 --> 00:50:19,120
Speaker 1: like that sort of like a almost like an Hussein

1122
00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:21,680
Speaker 1: bolt pointing at him. And this guy, Yeah, this guy

1123
00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:22,520
Speaker 1: is just known for.

1124
00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:25,080
Speaker 2: Wait, we're talking about the guy who got dunked it.

1125
00:50:25,920 --> 00:50:29,560
Speaker 1: No, the guy who got dunked on for the Seattles

1126
00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:33,160
Speaker 1: for the Golden State Warriors against the Sonics. I know

1127
00:50:33,239 --> 00:50:33,799
Speaker 1: you can pick up.

1128
00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:35,080
Speaker 2: Well, you're talking about Sean Camp.

1129
00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:36,560
Speaker 1: He dunked on this guy.

1130
00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:39,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, dunked on the on the on the Warrior guy.

1131
00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:41,880
Speaker 2: And he and and he's he has a nickname of

1132
00:50:42,239 --> 00:50:42,759
Speaker 2: dunk Yeah.

1133
00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:45,080
Speaker 1: I mean when you when you think of this guy,

1134
00:50:45,160 --> 00:50:50,560
Speaker 1: you say, it's the something something. He was a big man,

1135
00:50:50,640 --> 00:50:53,160
Speaker 1: big man, very big man. Yeah. Yeah, he was like

1136
00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:56,480
Speaker 1: seventh footer I think, Yeah, definitely a seven footer, A

1137
00:50:56,520 --> 00:50:57,040
Speaker 1: big guy.

1138
00:50:58,160 --> 00:50:59,359
Speaker 2: Wasn't from Lebanon, was he?

1139
00:50:59,800 --> 00:51:01,920
Speaker 1: No, he wasn't. No. Who you thinking of there?

1140
00:51:02,040 --> 00:51:03,240
Speaker 2: Is that Ronny Cycling?

1141
00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:03,480
Speaker 1: Ah?

1142
00:51:03,600 --> 00:51:03,719
Speaker 2: Right?

1143
00:51:03,800 --> 00:51:06,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, no, not Ronny Cyclely? This guy was number

1144
00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:11,400
Speaker 1: fifty three? What else? Can I tell you? What else?

1145
00:51:11,840 --> 00:51:13,440
Speaker 2: Number fifty? When I always think of fifty three, I

1146
00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:14,840
Speaker 2: think of James Edwards.

1147
00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:19,840
Speaker 1: Right, yeah, Buddha, Yeah, this guy he got dunked on

1148
00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:22,080
Speaker 1: and he's just his name is Yeah?

1149
00:51:22,200 --> 00:51:24,719
Speaker 2: Can you tell me anything more about him? What of

1150
00:51:24,719 --> 00:51:25,640
Speaker 2: the teams did he play for?

1151
00:51:26,520 --> 00:51:29,239
Speaker 1: He might have ended up playing in Seattle actually, but

1152
00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:33,520
Speaker 1: you know, his most memorable days for me, certainly with

1153
00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:36,640
Speaker 1: the Warriors. I don't know if you've got the YouTube

1154
00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:38,080
Speaker 1: link over there, but I feel the few of the

1155
00:51:38,120 --> 00:51:39,960
Speaker 1: people there sort of get I don't do that.

1156
00:51:41,040 --> 00:51:43,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not looking at anything right right?

1157
00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:45,000
Speaker 1: Right? Good God?

1158
00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:46,400
Speaker 2: I wish I would have done that earlier. Didn't even

1159
00:51:46,440 --> 00:51:46,919
Speaker 2: think of that.

1160
00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:48,919
Speaker 1: What happens if you get a pain like you get

1161
00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:51,799
Speaker 1: like a like if you if you if you've been

1162
00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:53,400
Speaker 1: out in the sun too long, you might get it.

1163
00:51:53,520 --> 00:51:55,000
Speaker 1: Or if you wear a pair of shoes that are

1164
00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:57,080
Speaker 1: too tight, you might get some of these on your feet,

1165
00:51:57,440 --> 00:52:02,680
Speaker 1: on your toes cramp. It's more like a skin, a

1166
00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:06,080
Speaker 1: skin irritation that can sort of you know, what the

1167
00:52:06,239 --> 00:52:12,280
Speaker 1: hell a blister? I'm thinking of a no exister, a blister,

1168
00:52:13,239 --> 00:52:15,200
Speaker 1: the list of blister, alton list.

1169
00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:19,520
Speaker 2: Altonately, Yeah, the goy. I honestly, I have to say,

1170
00:52:20,239 --> 00:52:23,160
Speaker 2: I don't know what is the term that you're talking about.

1171
00:52:23,360 --> 00:52:24,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, the list, No, the list of blister.

1172
00:52:25,640 --> 00:52:25,960
Speaker 2: Damn.

1173
00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:27,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, how did I miss that?

1174
00:52:27,239 --> 00:52:27,399
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1175
00:52:27,640 --> 00:52:30,000
Speaker 1: I know, I mean that's uh, that's one of the

1176
00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:33,640
Speaker 1: most disappointed myself. Well, you've had a pretty I mean

1177
00:52:33,680 --> 00:52:34,640
Speaker 1: you've you've cleaned.

1178
00:52:34,760 --> 00:52:35,640
Speaker 2: I'm disappointed.

1179
00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:38,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well is that the last one? No? No, No,

1180
00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:41,920
Speaker 1: I've got well, I've got an absolute Well, man, I

1181
00:52:41,960 --> 00:52:45,600
Speaker 1: mean this is perfect. I'm wearing the guy's jersey. I mean,

1182
00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:46,160
Speaker 1: oh wow.

1183
00:52:47,000 --> 00:52:52,080
Speaker 2: I meant, yeah, the former the former Rush. I look

1184
00:52:52,120 --> 00:52:55,320
Speaker 2: at that guy. I mean the the the non sexual

1185
00:52:55,360 --> 00:52:57,279
Speaker 2: crush that I had on that man. I mean I

1186
00:52:57,400 --> 00:53:01,560
Speaker 2: just loved everything about him. In fact, my way initials JS.

1187
00:53:01,600 --> 00:53:03,200
Speaker 2: I met my wife in nineteen ninety four. When I

1188
00:53:03,200 --> 00:53:05,239
Speaker 2: would talk about my wife to my friends, I would

1189
00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:08,960
Speaker 2: refer to her. I would refer to her as John Starks,

1190
00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:10,960
Speaker 2: just as a code word. So people wouldn't know what

1191
00:53:11,040 --> 00:53:12,360
Speaker 2: we were actually talking about.

1192
00:53:12,200 --> 00:53:16,520
Speaker 1: Right right, right? What you have? You have you crosspots

1193
00:53:16,560 --> 00:53:18,400
Speaker 1: with him in any professional.

1194
00:53:18,040 --> 00:53:21,080
Speaker 2: Yes, I was at a. I was at a like

1195
00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:24,799
Speaker 2: there was like some Chelsea Piers in New York. They

1196
00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:27,479
Speaker 2: were having like some kids day, right, And I didn't

1197
00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:30,880
Speaker 2: realize the entrance fee it was for some sort of charity.

1198
00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:32,919
Speaker 2: So it was like, oh, there's games, there's this, there's

1199
00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:34,680
Speaker 2: food for kids. I was like, oh, let's go here.

1200
00:53:34,719 --> 00:53:38,600
Speaker 2: It was a January kind of cold, depressing day, a Sunday,

1201
00:53:39,120 --> 00:53:40,400
Speaker 2: and then I get there and it's like one hundred

1202
00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:41,680
Speaker 2: and fifty dollars a person. I was like, what the

1203
00:53:41,719 --> 00:53:44,080
Speaker 2: hell is this? Well it was worth it because John

1204
00:53:44,120 --> 00:53:47,320
Speaker 2: Starks was there taking pictures and signing autographs in addition

1205
00:53:47,360 --> 00:53:50,200
Speaker 2: to like other New York's sporting legends. But I went

1206
00:53:50,239 --> 00:53:54,080
Speaker 2: straight for Starks, took the picture, told them the story

1207
00:53:54,160 --> 00:53:58,440
Speaker 2: about you know, yeah, that was great, and you know

1208
00:53:58,880 --> 00:54:00,919
Speaker 2: I know that, you know he I'd head for Game

1209
00:54:01,000 --> 00:54:03,520
Speaker 2: seven and all that stuff, but they don't make it

1210
00:54:03,520 --> 00:54:06,120
Speaker 2: to game seven without him. I love this fire. He

1211
00:54:06,120 --> 00:54:08,960
Speaker 2: would point to the jersey in the chest and you know,

1212
00:54:09,080 --> 00:54:11,080
Speaker 2: he kind of reminded me of myself a little bit

1213
00:54:11,080 --> 00:54:13,719
Speaker 2: because I used to be quite the fiery player, and

1214
00:54:13,760 --> 00:54:15,040
Speaker 2: I would lose my call and I would get a

1215
00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:16,840
Speaker 2: lot of technicals, and I would do stupid things, and

1216
00:54:16,880 --> 00:54:19,160
Speaker 2: he did supid things. He had buttered Regie Miller. I

1217
00:54:19,160 --> 00:54:20,600
Speaker 2: will always have a love for John Stone.

1218
00:54:20,840 --> 00:54:23,000
Speaker 1: But in the book Chris Herrings book as well. I mean,

1219
00:54:23,040 --> 00:54:27,319
Speaker 1: people just say they just love John Starks for how

1220
00:54:27,360 --> 00:54:30,320
Speaker 1: he represented New York and the Knicks. And he played

1221
00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:32,480
Speaker 1: and he fought, and yeah he had a few mistakes

1222
00:54:32,520 --> 00:54:34,120
Speaker 1: and a few slip ups along the way, but there

1223
00:54:34,160 --> 00:54:36,799
Speaker 1: was never any question about where his heart was and

1224
00:54:36,840 --> 00:54:39,920
Speaker 1: his effort and all those other things, and that's what

1225
00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:41,520
Speaker 1: makes him the legend that he is. I mean, he

1226
00:54:41,560 --> 00:54:44,399
Speaker 1: obviously bounced around a fair bit after that. I think

1227
00:54:44,400 --> 00:54:46,239
Speaker 1: he went to the Warriors and the Jazz and the

1228
00:54:46,239 --> 00:54:50,080
Speaker 1: heat made balls, yeah, the bulls. But he's a nick.

1229
00:54:50,520 --> 00:54:51,720
Speaker 1: Just he's a nick forever.

1230
00:54:52,560 --> 00:54:55,320
Speaker 2: I loved when he would shoot a free throw, oh.

1231
00:54:55,200 --> 00:54:59,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, all right. This next one was an

1232
00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:03,799
Speaker 1: all star former raptor. I think of him mainly on

1233
00:55:03,840 --> 00:55:10,120
Speaker 1: the San Antonio Spurs, A real good defensive player Spurs

1234
00:55:10,160 --> 00:55:14,239
Speaker 1: and Bucks. Yes, Alvin, that's the one. Alvin Robertson good

1235
00:55:14,280 --> 00:55:16,920
Speaker 1: Paul nice one. I think he might have been the

1236
00:55:17,239 --> 00:55:22,279
Speaker 1: first ever Raptors. Don't maybe first point, that's the one.

1237
00:55:22,280 --> 00:55:23,680
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, I think he. I think he hit

1238
00:55:23,719 --> 00:55:25,840
Speaker 1: the first bucket in Raptors.

1239
00:55:25,880 --> 00:55:27,360
Speaker 2: He's also had some legal trouble.

1240
00:55:27,440 --> 00:55:30,879
Speaker 1: He did he did? He did? Yes, Yes, Okay, next

1241
00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:34,200
Speaker 1: one or another. Another guy who's an absolute legend of

1242
00:55:34,239 --> 00:55:37,279
Speaker 1: the game, sadly no longer with us, died probably about

1243
00:55:37,320 --> 00:55:41,239
Speaker 1: six or seven years ago. Former m v P three

1244
00:55:41,280 --> 00:55:46,040
Speaker 1: time MVP and just a just a great, great player

1245
00:55:46,320 --> 00:55:51,640
Speaker 1: and had that great he's got that saying that he

1246
00:55:51,680 --> 00:55:53,799
Speaker 1: said when he was asked about the playoffs and what

1247
00:55:53,920 --> 00:55:57,240
Speaker 1: was going to happen, he just said, Moses, Moses Malone

1248
00:55:57,320 --> 00:56:02,000
Speaker 1: there full full file, that's right, Milwaukee Bucks Moses Malone

1249
00:56:02,120 --> 00:56:02,640
Speaker 1: yeh wow.

1250
00:56:02,800 --> 00:56:06,120
Speaker 2: Yeah. And Patrick Ewing's first point is a neck where

1251
00:56:06,440 --> 00:56:07,480
Speaker 2: tip jam over Moses.

1252
00:56:07,520 --> 00:56:07,800
Speaker 1: Wow.

1253
00:56:08,040 --> 00:56:08,960
Speaker 2: He was on the Sixers.

1254
00:56:09,040 --> 00:56:12,160
Speaker 1: Yeah. And Moses was in Houston and then a team

1255
00:56:12,239 --> 00:56:14,200
Speaker 1: came along and I think he worked with a team

1256
00:56:14,239 --> 00:56:15,560
Speaker 1: for a year or two and then they were like,

1257
00:56:15,920 --> 00:56:17,200
Speaker 1: we don't need you anymore, Moses.

1258
00:56:17,560 --> 00:56:20,439
Speaker 2: And also one of the first guys to go from

1259
00:56:20,640 --> 00:56:21,319
Speaker 2: high school to the.

1260
00:56:21,360 --> 00:56:25,719
Speaker 1: NBA that's right, Yes, very good. Okay. This next guy

1261
00:56:26,080 --> 00:56:30,120
Speaker 1: had a great college career for Michigan, went on to

1262
00:56:30,160 --> 00:56:32,239
Speaker 1: get drafted early by the Atlanta Hawks, but never really

1263
00:56:32,280 --> 00:56:34,040
Speaker 1: panned out in the NBA. Didn't sort of play all

1264
00:56:34,080 --> 00:56:34,680
Speaker 1: that long.

1265
00:56:35,040 --> 00:56:39,640
Speaker 2: Nets as well. Oh, Atlanta Hawks, Atlanta Hawks, he was drawn.

1266
00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:42,480
Speaker 1: No, not Mookie. Now, this guy was never that good

1267
00:56:42,600 --> 00:56:44,560
Speaker 1: like Mookie. Mookie made an All Star team. This guy

1268
00:56:44,600 --> 00:56:49,800
Speaker 1: never did point guard. Yeah yeah, man a lion.

1269
00:56:50,000 --> 00:56:53,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, I believe he played for the Nets.

1270
00:56:53,400 --> 00:56:56,280
Speaker 1: He did it in the end. Yeah, yeah, I remember

1271
00:56:56,320 --> 00:57:00,239
Speaker 1: him because he was on that Michigan team that Iron

1272
00:57:00,239 --> 00:57:03,760
Speaker 1: against seatnet Hall. Now there was every time he scored,

1273
00:57:03,760 --> 00:57:06,479
Speaker 1: his mom stood up and they had Rameil Robinson's mum

1274
00:57:07,719 --> 00:57:09,839
Speaker 1: T shirt. Yeah yeah. Because that game was beamed live

1275
00:57:09,880 --> 00:57:13,120
Speaker 1: in Australia because Andrew Gays was playing, and so everyone

1276
00:57:13,200 --> 00:57:15,640
Speaker 1: was just like and Seaton Hall. I don't remember what

1277
00:57:15,680 --> 00:57:17,720
Speaker 1: seed they were exactly, but they weren't expected to go

1278
00:57:17,760 --> 00:57:20,320
Speaker 1: all the way to the final. So, you know, the

1279
00:57:20,320 --> 00:57:23,160
Speaker 1: more games they won, just the hype around it was incredible.

1280
00:57:23,200 --> 00:57:26,800
Speaker 2: So about the multiple Andrew Geeze references on this program.

1281
00:57:26,760 --> 00:57:29,400
Speaker 1: Never, you can never have too many, is what I've learned. Yeah.

1282
00:57:29,720 --> 00:57:32,320
Speaker 1: He was on our show in Vegas actually, which was awesome. Yeah,

1283
00:57:32,360 --> 00:57:36,400
Speaker 1: because you know, growing up as a kid, Andrew Gays

1284
00:57:36,480 --> 00:57:39,040
Speaker 1: was our Michael Jordan and so you know, to get

1285
00:57:39,120 --> 00:57:40,640
Speaker 1: him on the show and talk to him and stuff

1286
00:57:40,760 --> 00:57:43,440
Speaker 1: was was incredible. All Right, we've got two more, and

1287
00:57:43,480 --> 00:57:45,760
Speaker 1: they're pretty tough. They're pretty tough. I'll be honest here,

1288
00:57:46,800 --> 00:57:48,720
Speaker 1: if you get either of these ones, this is just

1289
00:57:48,760 --> 00:57:51,520
Speaker 1: gravy because they're so tough. I really don't even have

1290
00:57:51,600 --> 00:57:57,680
Speaker 1: much to say about this guy. Ah wow, Well, maybe

1291
00:57:57,680 --> 00:57:59,720
Speaker 1: this guy is related to a former Raptor who was

1292
00:57:59,760 --> 00:58:03,760
Speaker 1: a really good athlete in the sort of twenty tens,

1293
00:58:04,200 --> 00:58:05,840
Speaker 1: but he never quite made it as a as a

1294
00:58:05,840 --> 00:58:08,320
Speaker 1: good basketball player. He bounced around, but he was a

1295
00:58:08,360 --> 00:58:10,280
Speaker 1: super He was more like a track athlete out there.

1296
00:58:10,360 --> 00:58:18,640
Speaker 1: He had a twin brother in fact, man brother. Yeah.

1297
00:58:18,680 --> 00:58:20,360
Speaker 1: I can't even think of his twin brother's name. But

1298
00:58:20,400 --> 00:58:24,400
Speaker 1: do you remember Joey Graham from the Raptors. Oh yeah, yeah,

1299
00:58:24,440 --> 00:58:26,360
Speaker 1: Paul Graham. I don't know if he's a ladd or

1300
00:58:26,440 --> 00:58:26,919
Speaker 1: not yet.

1301
00:58:27,760 --> 00:58:29,720
Speaker 2: You're just you're just I'm just throwing names.

1302
00:58:29,720 --> 00:58:30,920
Speaker 1: I'm just throwing words out now.

1303
00:58:31,200 --> 00:58:32,080
Speaker 2: That is a tough one.

1304
00:58:32,160 --> 00:58:34,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a tough one. And then this last one

1305
00:58:34,400 --> 00:58:35,120
Speaker 1: here as well.

1306
00:58:35,480 --> 00:58:36,360
Speaker 2: I can't end like this.

1307
00:58:36,840 --> 00:58:39,400
Speaker 1: I know it's a tough one as well. I know

1308
00:58:39,600 --> 00:58:42,400
Speaker 1: you killed it there with Remeal Robinson. I should have

1309
00:58:42,640 --> 00:58:45,240
Speaker 1: I should have tried to sort of fudget so he yeah, yeah, yeah,

1310
00:58:46,120 --> 00:58:51,520
Speaker 1: big guy for the Dallas Mavericks has a colorful last name.

1311
00:58:52,000 --> 00:58:56,760
Speaker 1: And ah, he's a colorful last name. And and if

1312
00:58:56,800 --> 00:59:00,720
Speaker 1: Austin Powells was to describe this guy, oh god, this

1313
00:59:00,760 --> 00:59:04,760
Speaker 1: is a weird clue. I don't even know what I'm

1314
00:59:04,760 --> 00:59:08,040
Speaker 1: saying now. Delicious sort of Randy Randy White.

1315
00:59:08,480 --> 00:59:11,200
Speaker 2: Oh, Ron God, any powers?

1316
00:59:11,480 --> 00:59:15,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, do you have any any Randy Ray any stories

1317
00:59:15,480 --> 00:59:16,520
Speaker 1: about Randy White? No?

1318
00:59:16,560 --> 00:59:18,480
Speaker 2: No, although I do love those jerseys.

1319
00:59:19,360 --> 00:59:22,760
Speaker 1: Yes, they are awesome, those jerseys. They're great, well, pretty

1320
00:59:22,760 --> 00:59:23,280
Speaker 1: good overall.

1321
00:59:23,320 --> 00:59:25,080
Speaker 2: Anyway, I mean, I don't like the way it's ended.

1322
00:59:26,280 --> 00:59:28,600
Speaker 1: Well, what about this, right, We'll take one more quick

1323
00:59:28,600 --> 00:59:31,080
Speaker 1: break and then I'll give you a real modern day pack,

1324
00:59:31,200 --> 00:59:33,439
Speaker 1: like only only eight cards in the pack here.

1325
00:59:33,480 --> 00:59:35,560
Speaker 2: Honestly, I actually think I do better in the nineties in.

1326
00:59:35,560 --> 00:59:37,560
Speaker 1: The right Well we can, we can, Hey, listen, I've

1327
00:59:37,560 --> 00:59:39,280
Speaker 1: got here we go. This one from ninety nine two

1328
00:59:39,320 --> 00:59:40,000
Speaker 1: thousand and seven.

1329
00:59:40,040 --> 00:59:41,400
Speaker 2: Can we I need to end on a better note

1330
00:59:41,440 --> 00:59:43,680
Speaker 2: than that. I'm sorry. I don't need to make you stick.

1331
00:59:43,520 --> 00:59:46,840
Speaker 1: Around, but I'm taking up all your time here. It's

1332
00:59:46,840 --> 00:59:49,040
Speaker 1: been over an hour, so I can stay here and

1333
00:59:49,080 --> 00:59:50,640
Speaker 1: do this with you. All right, we'll do these ones

1334
00:59:50,640 --> 00:59:53,400
Speaker 1: then ninety nine two thousand, we'll have a quick which

1335
00:59:53,440 --> 00:59:54,600
Speaker 1: brand tops?

1336
00:59:55,080 --> 00:59:55,920
Speaker 2: Okay, I can live with that.

1337
00:59:56,000 --> 00:59:58,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, Antoine Walker on the front cover there. All right,

1338
00:59:58,720 --> 01:00:03,280
Speaker 1: we'll be back in just a few moments, back in

1339
01:00:03,360 --> 01:00:07,040
Speaker 1: the Classic Factory for the third segment here of pop

1340
01:00:07,080 --> 01:00:07,360
Speaker 1: and packs.

1341
01:00:07,520 --> 01:00:10,400
Speaker 2: Whine more a pack, whine more a pack, fine, more

1342
01:00:10,400 --> 01:00:10,760
Speaker 2: a pack.

1343
01:00:11,080 --> 01:00:13,120
Speaker 1: I love that you didn't want to go out on

1344
01:00:13,200 --> 01:00:14,320
Speaker 1: a low note.

1345
01:00:14,960 --> 01:00:17,600
Speaker 2: I mean, and by the way I did in the break,

1346
01:00:17,640 --> 01:00:20,040
Speaker 2: I did open up the YouTube channel because you reminded

1347
01:00:20,080 --> 01:00:22,920
Speaker 2: me of that. You have a lovely chat over there.

1348
01:00:22,920 --> 01:00:24,520
Speaker 2: You know, sometimes the YouTube chat could be a bit

1349
01:00:24,560 --> 01:00:27,480
Speaker 2: of a cess pool, but everyone is so supportive. I

1350
01:00:27,480 --> 01:00:30,520
Speaker 2: actually see my old friend Elajuan Dream who rates to me.

1351
01:00:30,640 --> 01:00:35,920
Speaker 2: Sometimes it's not, you know, the toxiccess pool that you

1352
01:00:35,960 --> 01:00:38,040
Speaker 2: see in other places. So shout out to you guys

1353
01:00:38,040 --> 01:00:40,040
Speaker 2: for fostering that kind of community.

1354
01:00:40,160 --> 01:00:42,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, overall it is I mean we obviously you know,

1355
01:00:42,640 --> 01:00:44,600
Speaker 1: it's not like that all the time for every show,

1356
01:00:44,640 --> 01:00:47,200
Speaker 1: but overall we do have a pretty good group. We

1357
01:00:47,240 --> 01:00:49,360
Speaker 1: see the same sort of names and guys and girls

1358
01:00:49,400 --> 01:00:51,240
Speaker 1: in there, and they talk to each other as well.

1359
01:00:51,280 --> 01:00:53,240
Speaker 1: So the stream team is what we like to call them.

1360
01:00:53,280 --> 01:00:55,000
Speaker 1: So I love it. It's great to see a few of

1361
01:00:55,000 --> 01:00:57,560
Speaker 1: them here. Now, just one thing real quickly here, Ariel too.

1362
01:00:57,600 --> 01:00:59,040
Speaker 1: I know I've taken up plenty of your time here,

1363
01:00:59,080 --> 01:01:02,800
Speaker 1: but one thing that does really interest me. Amanda Nunez

1364
01:01:03,360 --> 01:01:08,000
Speaker 1: lost what was that December? She lost Juliana Pena. Yeah,

1365
01:01:09,200 --> 01:01:10,920
Speaker 1: there's talk of a rematch. I mean, if you got

1366
01:01:10,960 --> 01:01:12,480
Speaker 1: any scoop, can you give me like award?

1367
01:01:12,560 --> 01:01:14,040
Speaker 2: What is this? All of a sudden you're asking me

1368
01:01:14,080 --> 01:01:17,280
Speaker 2: for school number? This is definitely not from you. Someone

1369
01:01:17,400 --> 01:01:19,920
Speaker 2: asked you to ask me this. We it's all of

1370
01:01:19,960 --> 01:01:22,520
Speaker 2: a sudden. We've been talking for now and fifteen minutes

1371
01:01:22,560 --> 01:01:24,520
Speaker 2: and you're like, hey, got that Amanda new What is

1372
01:01:24,520 --> 01:01:26,960
Speaker 2: the true story behind this question? I'd like to know first.

1373
01:01:26,720 --> 01:01:30,320
Speaker 1: And forms she told me well, because she really I

1374
01:01:30,360 --> 01:01:34,480
Speaker 1: think she's an incredible athlete and fighter and mother now

1375
01:01:34,520 --> 01:01:37,240
Speaker 1: as well. Yes, And I was just completely shocked because

1376
01:01:37,280 --> 01:01:39,160
Speaker 1: again I don't follow it super close, but I know

1377
01:01:39,240 --> 01:01:41,880
Speaker 1: that that was considered and correct me if I'm wrong.

1378
01:01:42,280 --> 01:01:44,560
Speaker 1: Maybe the greatest upset in UFC history when she.

1379
01:01:44,600 --> 01:01:47,280
Speaker 2: Lost there, Yeah, up there not Number one. Number one

1380
01:01:47,280 --> 01:01:50,240
Speaker 2: for me is Matt Sarah over gsp Backroy the day

1381
01:01:50,320 --> 01:01:53,640
Speaker 2: two thousand and six. I do believe. Also, actually in

1382
01:01:53,640 --> 01:01:56,080
Speaker 2: your home country of Australia, there was a huge upset

1383
01:01:56,080 --> 01:01:58,920
Speaker 2: Holly Holm when she defeated Randa ROUSI. There have been

1384
01:01:58,960 --> 01:02:01,439
Speaker 2: a few. They're going to fight in the summer. They're

1385
01:02:01,440 --> 01:02:04,240
Speaker 2: actually doing a season of The Ultimate Fighter right now

1386
01:02:04,280 --> 01:02:08,320
Speaker 2: as coaches, and they'll do the rematch in July if

1387
01:02:08,400 --> 01:02:11,360
Speaker 2: all pans out. So actually, Amanda has changed a lot

1388
01:02:11,440 --> 01:02:13,560
Speaker 2: since that law. She left her team who she was

1389
01:02:13,600 --> 01:02:16,160
Speaker 2: with for a number of years, her manager. You know,

1390
01:02:16,200 --> 01:02:18,880
Speaker 2: sometimes they lose these fights for the first time in

1391
01:02:19,000 --> 01:02:22,240
Speaker 2: years and they make these wholesale changes. Yeah, I'm not

1392
01:02:22,320 --> 01:02:23,840
Speaker 2: I don't know. Maybe maybe she felt like it was

1393
01:02:23,840 --> 01:02:25,640
Speaker 2: a long time coming, this was the straw that broke

1394
01:02:25,680 --> 01:02:28,480
Speaker 2: the camel's back. I don't know, but I'm really curious

1395
01:02:28,480 --> 01:02:30,680
Speaker 2: to see how she looks in the in the rematch

1396
01:02:30,760 --> 01:02:34,400
Speaker 2: because of all these changes. So I would circle July

1397
01:02:34,640 --> 01:02:38,560
Speaker 2: second or July thirtieth as a potential date for that.

1398
01:02:38,480 --> 01:02:40,760
Speaker 1: Rematch in Vegas. I'm guessing will be out.

1399
01:02:40,640 --> 01:02:43,280
Speaker 2: There July second, will be in Vegas. July thirtieth, doesn't

1400
01:02:43,280 --> 01:02:44,960
Speaker 2: have a date just yet. It could be an Anaheim.

1401
01:02:45,080 --> 01:02:47,880
Speaker 1: Oh okay, okay, now, well, last moops here talking of

1402
01:02:48,120 --> 01:02:51,880
Speaker 1: Ronda ROWSI, of course Amanda Nunez completely destroyed her in

1403
01:02:51,920 --> 01:02:55,560
Speaker 1: the first round. When that was that was Runda's fight

1404
01:02:55,640 --> 01:02:57,400
Speaker 1: after Holly, wasn't it the first far Yes.

1405
01:02:57,280 --> 01:02:59,240
Speaker 2: She was a shell of her former self. She didn't

1406
01:02:59,240 --> 01:03:01,400
Speaker 2: do any media for the fight. She looked like a

1407
01:03:01,440 --> 01:03:04,080
Speaker 2: different person, like she just everything about it. She went

1408
01:03:04,120 --> 01:03:07,280
Speaker 2: in there and she got scorched in like forty five

1409
01:03:07,320 --> 01:03:09,880
Speaker 2: seconds or something like that, fifty one second and has

1410
01:03:09,920 --> 01:03:12,640
Speaker 2: never fought again. She does the pro wrestling now, but

1411
01:03:12,680 --> 01:03:15,280
Speaker 2: she has never done MMA since then and will never

1412
01:03:15,360 --> 01:03:15,840
Speaker 2: do MMA.

1413
01:03:16,000 --> 01:03:19,400
Speaker 1: Well, okay, so okay, No real scoopy because look, during

1414
01:03:19,440 --> 01:03:22,280
Speaker 1: the draft, the NBA Draft last year, I got, I

1415
01:03:22,320 --> 01:03:24,680
Speaker 1: got a scoop. I gotta I gotta watch Bomb before

1416
01:03:24,880 --> 01:03:28,040
Speaker 1: Wag before Shams BeForever I Josh Giddy, the Australian being

1417
01:03:28,040 --> 01:03:29,920
Speaker 1: taken number six by the Thunder I caught that like

1418
01:03:29,960 --> 01:03:31,320
Speaker 1: twelve hours before it happened.

1419
01:03:31,480 --> 01:03:33,000
Speaker 2: He's great, he broke it.

1420
01:03:33,080 --> 01:03:34,200
Speaker 1: I broke it. I broke it.

1421
01:03:34,280 --> 01:03:35,680
Speaker 2: Ow did you get it? Now here's the thing. Do

1422
01:03:35,720 --> 01:03:36,400
Speaker 2: you get credit for it?

1423
01:03:36,480 --> 01:03:37,640
Speaker 1: Of course not? Of course not.

1424
01:03:37,920 --> 01:03:41,680
Speaker 2: I have to say NBA reporters very bad at giving credit.

1425
01:03:41,760 --> 01:03:44,120
Speaker 2: Y if I'm being honest, I watch, you know, I

1426
01:03:44,240 --> 01:03:46,760
Speaker 2: like to. I follow base by far and I find

1427
01:03:46,800 --> 01:03:49,680
Speaker 2: they don't credit each other very well. Like actually they

1428
01:03:49,680 --> 01:03:51,200
Speaker 2: don't credit each other at all. I don't like that,

1429
01:03:51,280 --> 01:03:54,280
Speaker 2: and especially you. You deserve that. And you see, you

1430
01:03:54,280 --> 01:03:56,880
Speaker 2: were what twelve hours ahead of the competition.

1431
01:03:56,560 --> 01:03:58,480
Speaker 1: And I've got the receipts because we were doing a

1432
01:03:58,520 --> 01:04:01,400
Speaker 1: show live at the time. I was in Amsterdam. Oddly enough,

1433
01:04:01,560 --> 01:04:03,880
Speaker 1: I was doing a show live at the time, and

1434
01:04:03,920 --> 01:04:06,120
Speaker 1: someone slid into my DMS and said, I've got the

1435
01:04:06,120 --> 01:04:08,640
Speaker 1: scoop for you, Josh Giddy number six to the Thunder,

1436
01:04:09,000 --> 01:04:11,200
Speaker 1: And I was like, wow, I haven't seen him sort

1437
01:04:11,240 --> 01:04:13,320
Speaker 1: of you know that high he was up there sort

1438
01:04:13,320 --> 01:04:16,160
Speaker 1: of maybe ten to fifteen. Someone said he's going to

1439
01:04:16,160 --> 01:04:17,960
Speaker 1: the thunder. They had to work out with him and

1440
01:04:18,040 --> 01:04:19,640
Speaker 1: it was great and it came off.

1441
01:04:20,320 --> 01:04:22,640
Speaker 2: But now was it a reliable specially you just run

1442
01:04:22,680 --> 01:04:22,920
Speaker 2: with it.

1443
01:04:22,960 --> 01:04:25,600
Speaker 1: Though this was I wouldn't have said it if it

1444
01:04:25,640 --> 01:04:28,000
Speaker 1: wasn't from the source that it came from this guy.

1445
01:04:27,920 --> 01:04:30,400
Speaker 2: So biscally, what you're saying is Sam Prest he sent

1446
01:04:30,440 --> 01:04:33,200
Speaker 2: you a DM and said we're going that's what you're saying.

1447
01:04:33,200 --> 01:04:36,320
Speaker 1: The funny thing about it is the thunder actually water

1448
01:04:36,400 --> 01:04:38,960
Speaker 1: tight with all of their stuff. There's many leaks at all.

1449
01:04:39,000 --> 01:04:41,600
Speaker 1: So yeah, good for you, got a good got a

1450
01:04:41,600 --> 01:04:43,080
Speaker 1: good one. So I'm looking for an I'm trying to

1451
01:04:43,120 --> 01:04:44,600
Speaker 1: sort of branch out a bit here, you know. So

1452
01:04:44,720 --> 01:04:48,360
Speaker 1: maybe Scoop, you're you're popping packs with me, Maybe I

1453
01:04:48,400 --> 01:04:49,960
Speaker 1: can somehow, you know, help.

1454
01:04:49,840 --> 01:04:51,680
Speaker 2: You what I just told you, and I'll reach it

1455
01:04:51,720 --> 01:04:53,440
Speaker 2: and I get a ton of foleow.

1456
01:04:54,440 --> 01:04:57,800
Speaker 1: I might try that. Yeah, okay, all right, heavy.

1457
01:04:57,720 --> 01:05:01,320
Speaker 2: To my inside information. I'd be like, wow, look.

1458
01:05:01,160 --> 01:05:07,600
Speaker 1: At had just I've got Scoops. I know some people connected.

1459
01:05:07,600 --> 01:05:10,440
Speaker 1: All right, here we go. We've got these nineteen ninety nine,

1460
01:05:10,520 --> 01:05:14,880
Speaker 1: two thousand NBA tip off tops cards with Antoine Walker

1461
01:05:14,920 --> 01:05:17,320
Speaker 1: on the front. Yeah, speak Antoine. He was I think

1462
01:05:17,360 --> 01:05:19,160
Speaker 1: he was on NBA TV the other day. Oh yeah,

1463
01:05:19,200 --> 01:05:21,400
Speaker 1: this Jimmy. That was great? All right, let's see how

1464
01:05:21,440 --> 01:05:24,840
Speaker 1: we do here. Okay, this guy was a point guard.

1465
01:05:25,920 --> 01:05:27,920
Speaker 1: I think he was a backup point guard lefty for

1466
01:05:27,960 --> 01:05:31,600
Speaker 1: the Indiana Pacers played in the finals in two thousand

1467
01:05:32,760 --> 01:05:36,440
Speaker 1: and He certainly wasn't the worst player on the team.

1468
01:05:36,960 --> 01:05:39,560
Speaker 1: This guy was a small guy. I think he was

1469
01:05:39,600 --> 01:05:42,360
Speaker 1: only about five ten as well, had a pretty five

1470
01:05:42,400 --> 01:05:45,440
Speaker 1: to eleven they've got enlisted at here. Played for the Paces,

1471
01:05:45,520 --> 01:05:47,680
Speaker 1: and I think he bounced around a little bit. He

1472
01:05:47,720 --> 01:05:50,840
Speaker 1: played back up to Mark Jackson on those on those

1473
01:05:51,080 --> 01:05:52,000
Speaker 1: Indiana teams.

1474
01:05:52,480 --> 01:05:55,440
Speaker 2: Now he's not an NBA referee, right.

1475
01:05:55,560 --> 01:05:57,200
Speaker 1: I don't know, No, he's not.

1476
01:05:57,360 --> 01:05:57,440
Speaker 2: No.

1477
01:05:57,520 --> 01:06:00,160
Speaker 1: I think you're thinking of Hayward Workmen. Yeah, yeah, it's

1478
01:06:00,160 --> 01:06:02,920
Speaker 1: Nott Hayward Workman. This guy I know exactly. Yeah, he's

1479
01:06:02,920 --> 01:06:05,440
Speaker 1: a muscly, little, you know, stocky guy. Because he was smaller.

1480
01:06:05,960 --> 01:06:11,760
Speaker 1: Like I say, he wasn't the worst player on the team.

1481
01:06:11,920 --> 01:06:14,640
Speaker 2: I hated those pieces. They're battle the next all the time.

1482
01:06:14,680 --> 01:06:15,800
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and.

1483
01:06:18,840 --> 01:06:20,880
Speaker 2: Why is the why is the why is the name Turner?

1484
01:06:21,000 --> 01:06:23,240
Speaker 2: Keep coming? Not Turner?

1485
01:06:23,720 --> 01:06:27,680
Speaker 1: Not Turner. It's not Turner. See him, there's a clue

1486
01:06:27,680 --> 01:06:30,920
Speaker 1: in the He's not the worst.

1487
01:06:31,640 --> 01:06:37,000
Speaker 2: Oh yes, Travis best best? Yeah, right, you know, I

1488
01:06:37,040 --> 01:06:39,640
Speaker 2: actually feel like I'm better at early nineties than late nineties.

1489
01:06:39,640 --> 01:06:41,040
Speaker 2: So I'm curious to see how this goes.

1490
01:06:41,200 --> 01:06:42,959
Speaker 1: Well, I think you'll get this one. I'm in fact,

1491
01:06:43,040 --> 01:06:44,880
Speaker 1: I'm going to say it's an absolute lock that you'll

1492
01:06:44,920 --> 01:06:48,160
Speaker 1: get this one. Because this guy made his name as

1493
01:06:48,200 --> 01:06:50,400
Speaker 1: a Raptor and he hit a huge shot in the

1494
01:06:50,480 --> 01:06:53,760
Speaker 1: raptors first ever playoff series victory in New York City

1495
01:06:53,840 --> 01:06:57,120
Speaker 1: against the New York Knicks. And you still now you

1496
01:06:57,200 --> 01:06:59,680
Speaker 1: hear him on the broadcasts from time to time for

1497
01:06:59,840 --> 01:07:04,880
Speaker 1: the Raptors. He's a beloved fan, beloved figure by Raptors fans.

1498
01:07:05,320 --> 01:07:07,640
Speaker 2: And uh he's Villanova.

1499
01:07:08,000 --> 01:07:12,400
Speaker 1: Yes Williams, Alvin Boogie Williams. They go, yeah, remember that

1500
01:07:12,400 --> 01:07:15,560
Speaker 1: Shorty hit? Ye, yes, yes, yes, How did you feel

1501
01:07:15,560 --> 01:07:16,320
Speaker 1: in that series?

1502
01:07:17,160 --> 01:07:19,640
Speaker 2: It was weird because like all my friends had become

1503
01:07:19,720 --> 01:07:21,920
Speaker 2: Raptors fans, and of course, like I had a very

1504
01:07:21,920 --> 01:07:24,280
Speaker 2: soft spot in my heart for the Raptors and the Grizzlies,

1505
01:07:24,280 --> 01:07:26,320
Speaker 2: and I always wanted them to succeed. Yeah, And I

1506
01:07:26,360 --> 01:07:28,600
Speaker 2: was like, come on their first playoff series, it has

1507
01:07:28,640 --> 01:07:30,320
Speaker 2: to be against the nixt and then the second one too,

1508
01:07:30,320 --> 01:07:33,960
Speaker 2: if you recalled, And then they beat them in the

1509
01:07:33,960 --> 01:07:36,560
Speaker 2: second one, and I would be you know, I felt

1510
01:07:36,600 --> 01:07:38,640
Speaker 2: weird about it, and of course, like Oakley's there, and

1511
01:07:38,680 --> 01:07:42,680
Speaker 2: I felt weird about that. But I mean once they

1512
01:07:42,680 --> 01:07:45,720
Speaker 2: played the Sixers in that second year and then the

1513
01:07:45,720 --> 01:07:48,640
Speaker 2: whole graduation thing with Vince, I was definitely rooting for them.

1514
01:07:49,080 --> 01:07:50,680
Speaker 2: They had a few and then they ended up getting

1515
01:07:50,760 --> 01:07:53,360
Speaker 2: Chris Child's too, and he was a former Nick, So yeah,

1516
01:07:53,400 --> 01:07:55,440
Speaker 2: it was weird. I would have preferred them to I

1517
01:07:55,520 --> 01:07:57,320
Speaker 2: keep saying, fight to play someone else.

1518
01:07:57,440 --> 01:07:59,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the same sort of thing, isn't it.

1519
01:08:00,160 --> 01:08:00,480
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1520
01:08:00,560 --> 01:08:02,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, But that's the thing when you you know, you've

1521
01:08:02,400 --> 01:08:05,200
Speaker 1: got loyalties that are really pulling on where you were

1522
01:08:05,240 --> 01:08:06,520
Speaker 1: born and raised and where you grew.

1523
01:08:06,640 --> 01:08:08,360
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I was a Knicks fan before the Raptors

1524
01:08:08,360 --> 01:08:10,120
Speaker 2: even existed. That kind of just dropped them. And I

1525
01:08:10,120 --> 01:08:11,800
Speaker 2: love them so much. I remember after a game three

1526
01:08:11,840 --> 01:08:14,920
Speaker 2: the Knicks swept them in the first year, right, And

1527
01:08:14,960 --> 01:08:18,880
Speaker 2: I remember Vince at the podium, like his last thing

1528
01:08:18,960 --> 01:08:21,040
Speaker 2: that he said was Mama told me there'd be days

1529
01:08:21,080 --> 01:08:23,360
Speaker 2: like this. He was all like sad and he walked off.

1530
01:08:23,920 --> 01:08:26,080
Speaker 2: And I loved Vince as well. I mean, I remember

1531
01:08:27,400 --> 01:08:29,400
Speaker 2: Golden State two thousand. That was very exciting.

1532
01:08:29,520 --> 01:08:33,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I mean that's six is Six's Raptors series.

1533
01:08:33,080 --> 01:08:35,040
Speaker 1: It was incredible. You know, Vin's going for fifty I

1534
01:08:35,240 --> 01:08:39,200
Speaker 1: and going for fifty twice and then man, one shot

1535
01:08:39,200 --> 01:08:41,519
Speaker 1: could have done it. Okay, well we've got our first

1536
01:08:41,560 --> 01:08:44,519
Speaker 1: repeat guy here. And I don't remember. I do not

1537
01:08:44,600 --> 01:08:46,720
Speaker 1: remember this guy on the Lakers because he was a

1538
01:08:46,800 --> 01:08:50,680
Speaker 1: nick and a maverick and you've taken a piss next to.

1539
01:08:50,720 --> 01:08:53,880
Speaker 2: Him, Oh, Derek, Yeah, I do remember him. Yeah, later

1540
01:08:53,880 --> 01:08:56,040
Speaker 2: in his career he was on the did he win?

1541
01:08:56,120 --> 01:08:57,160
Speaker 2: I wonder if you did he want to?

1542
01:08:57,520 --> 01:09:01,440
Speaker 1: Well, ninety nine, two thousand he would have yeah, yeah, yeah,

1543
01:09:01,040 --> 01:09:03,800
Speaker 1: I really don't remember him though on the Lakers. But yeah,

1544
01:09:03,840 --> 01:09:07,160
Speaker 1: by then he was insurance really coming off the bench.

1545
01:09:07,960 --> 01:09:10,000
Speaker 1: But I had him on did I tell you that already? Yeah?

1546
01:09:10,000 --> 01:09:11,840
Speaker 1: I did have him mine, and he was incredible at

1547
01:09:11,840 --> 01:09:12,600
Speaker 1: the storytelling.

1548
01:09:12,720 --> 01:09:14,479
Speaker 2: He was, Oh my god, I love that stuff.

1549
01:09:14,560 --> 01:09:17,960
Speaker 1: Yeah. He was just so much fun. And you know

1550
01:09:18,000 --> 01:09:20,960
Speaker 1: you talk about ninety four, yeah, of course, yeah, because him.

1551
01:09:21,320 --> 01:09:23,880
Speaker 2: About Night playing Rolando in Game seven.

1552
01:09:24,040 --> 01:09:26,760
Speaker 1: I don't recall that specifically. It was more because him

1553
01:09:26,760 --> 01:09:29,720
Speaker 1: and Vernon Maxwell were buds and they were going at

1554
01:09:29,760 --> 01:09:33,559
Speaker 1: each other in that Yeah, I tried to get Vernon. Yeah, yeah,

1555
01:09:33,560 --> 01:09:35,599
Speaker 1: but you would loved him on your team. Of course.

1556
01:09:36,160 --> 01:09:38,000
Speaker 1: He's one of those when we went to the stands,

1557
01:09:38,240 --> 01:09:42,280
Speaker 1: Yeah for sure. Yeah, absolutely, mad Max. I mean he

1558
01:09:42,560 --> 01:09:45,280
Speaker 1: had that nickname for a reason. Yeah, all right, Well

1559
01:09:45,320 --> 01:09:48,679
Speaker 1: you'll definitely remember this guy because he was a nick

1560
01:09:48,880 --> 01:09:54,479
Speaker 1: for a few years and he came over from How

1561
01:09:54,520 --> 01:09:57,519
Speaker 1: can I say this, This guy was a big part

1562
01:09:57,600 --> 01:10:02,519
Speaker 1: of the late nine the Knicks teams. Well it was

1563
01:10:02,640 --> 01:10:04,519
Speaker 1: very late, very late. Yeah, he came over I think

1564
01:10:04,520 --> 01:10:08,880
Speaker 1: in nineteen ninety eight and a fan favorite as well.

1565
01:10:09,240 --> 01:10:12,080
Speaker 1: There had some great hair, great pickup. Really, considering how

1566
01:10:12,080 --> 01:10:14,439
Speaker 1: he got to New York, it was very free. Yes,

1567
01:10:14,560 --> 01:10:16,719
Speaker 1: prete the circumstances which got him.

1568
01:10:16,640 --> 01:10:18,760
Speaker 2: There, you could have just said he choked, PJ.

1569
01:10:21,800 --> 01:10:26,080
Speaker 1: What do you have tapped out? You think in uh.

1570
01:10:24,680 --> 01:10:28,559
Speaker 2: God, what a legend. And again I was I had

1571
01:10:28,600 --> 01:10:31,160
Speaker 2: mixed feelings because they traded Starks for him. Yeah, it

1572
01:10:31,280 --> 01:10:33,360
Speaker 2: was sad to see Starks go, but then that year

1573
01:10:33,439 --> 01:10:34,840
Speaker 2: that ninety nine. By the way, if you want an

1574
01:10:34,840 --> 01:10:37,479
Speaker 2: old school book, crazy to state to old school now.

1575
01:10:37,479 --> 01:10:40,000
Speaker 2: But you know, it has been what twenty three years,

1576
01:10:40,000 --> 01:10:42,960
Speaker 2: amazingly uh, the aforementioned Frank Izola, who I think is

1577
01:10:42,960 --> 01:10:44,720
Speaker 2: one of the best of covering the league. And Mike

1578
01:10:44,800 --> 01:10:49,920
Speaker 2: Wise wrote a book on that season only called Just Balin.

1579
01:10:50,920 --> 01:10:52,960
Speaker 2: And you know, it was a crazy year because they

1580
01:10:53,200 --> 01:10:59,200
Speaker 2: it was the lockout shortened season and then Van Gundy

1581
01:10:59,280 --> 01:11:01,600
Speaker 2: was on the verge of getting fired. Yeah, and then

1582
01:11:01,640 --> 01:11:03,679
Speaker 2: there were talks that they were talking to Phil Jackson,

1583
01:11:04,160 --> 01:11:06,320
Speaker 2: and then they squeak in as the eight seed and

1584
01:11:06,360 --> 01:11:08,760
Speaker 2: they you know, the the Houston shot in the first round,

1585
01:11:08,840 --> 01:11:11,920
Speaker 2: just an amazing story. And unfortunately Ewing gets injured in

1586
01:11:11,960 --> 01:11:14,960
Speaker 2: the conference championship and the conference finals and and they

1587
01:11:15,000 --> 01:11:16,679
Speaker 2: just kind of ran out of steam. And that Spurs

1588
01:11:16,680 --> 01:11:17,479
Speaker 2: team was so good.

1589
01:11:17,840 --> 01:11:19,639
Speaker 1: Well, and that's what Chris Herring was saying as well,

1590
01:11:19,720 --> 01:11:22,120
Speaker 1: Like Patrick Ewing felt they were a better chance against

1591
01:11:22,200 --> 01:11:24,280
Speaker 1: them than the Rockets, but they just didn't have the

1592
01:11:24,280 --> 01:11:25,000
Speaker 1: horses by then.

1593
01:11:25,040 --> 01:11:27,760
Speaker 2: The body, No, they they finally had the pieces, right

1594
01:11:27,880 --> 01:11:31,360
Speaker 2: a Houston, They had lj. Yeah, they had Camby. It's

1595
01:11:31,479 --> 01:11:33,760
Speaker 2: free like, they finally had the guys, but they just

1596
01:11:33,840 --> 01:11:36,840
Speaker 2: you know, by the end, it was it was Tim

1597
01:11:36,920 --> 01:11:38,719
Speaker 2: Duncan and Chris Dudley going to tote.

1598
01:11:39,040 --> 01:11:43,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right. That's yeah, and so yeah, you're just

1599
01:11:43,560 --> 01:11:45,600
Speaker 1: hoping to survive. They went, they didn't get swept. I

1600
01:11:45,600 --> 01:11:47,320
Speaker 1: did that. I think I lost in five live.

1601
01:11:47,560 --> 01:11:50,920
Speaker 2: Yeah. My graduation was during game three and they won

1602
01:11:51,000 --> 01:11:53,080
Speaker 2: Game three and I was watching it in the back

1603
01:11:53,120 --> 01:11:56,400
Speaker 2: of the graduation on like an old school mobile TV

1604
01:11:56,880 --> 01:11:57,360
Speaker 2: cell phone.

1605
01:11:57,400 --> 01:11:57,799
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1606
01:11:57,920 --> 01:11:58,960
Speaker 2: Very exciting, very exciting.

1607
01:11:59,000 --> 01:12:01,120
Speaker 1: All right. Well, this next guy started his career with

1608
01:12:01,160 --> 01:12:03,639
Speaker 1: the New York Knicks and got traded early. I think

1609
01:12:03,640 --> 01:12:05,920
Speaker 1: he went to the San Antonio Spurs. Then he bounced

1610
01:12:05,920 --> 01:12:08,479
Speaker 1: around to the Wizards, a few other teams. I think

1611
01:12:08,479 --> 01:12:11,000
Speaker 1: he was a raptor briefly. And these when the trivia

1612
01:12:11,040 --> 01:12:13,360
Speaker 1: comes up of the guy who best played and never

1613
01:12:13,360 --> 01:12:16,200
Speaker 1: make an All Star team, this guy's always up there

1614
01:12:16,560 --> 01:12:19,760
Speaker 1: because he was a good point guard and you know,

1615
01:12:19,840 --> 01:12:23,599
Speaker 1: pretty fancy, good handles. Oh yeah, right right Strickland.

1616
01:12:23,640 --> 01:12:26,599
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, great, shout out in the in Wu tang.

1617
01:12:26,760 --> 01:12:31,840
Speaker 2: Yeah triumph. Oh yeah, he was great. Oh man, look

1618
01:12:31,840 --> 01:12:34,599
Speaker 2: at that is that is nineteen ninety nine right there

1619
01:12:35,120 --> 01:12:36,280
Speaker 2: with that Wizard's.

1620
01:12:36,320 --> 01:12:38,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's against Kerry Kittle's I think that is

1621
01:12:38,760 --> 01:12:41,360
Speaker 1: oh yeah, yeah. If I see that, he does some

1622
01:12:41,439 --> 01:12:44,519
Speaker 1: net stuff still to this day. Okay, great, well, I've

1623
01:12:44,520 --> 01:12:47,200
Speaker 1: got a bit of a weird card here. I don't

1624
01:12:47,240 --> 01:12:49,599
Speaker 1: know what quite it is, but it's it's okay. It's

1625
01:12:49,600 --> 01:12:51,679
Speaker 1: called a double double, so I'll just give you the

1626
01:12:51,800 --> 01:12:54,040
Speaker 1: it's a double double for this guy who's name known

1627
01:12:54,160 --> 01:12:56,400
Speaker 1: mainly he was kind of a bit like the Westbrook

1628
01:12:56,439 --> 01:12:59,639
Speaker 1: before Westbrook as far as just getting triple doubles. Spent

1629
01:12:59,720 --> 01:13:04,040
Speaker 1: most of his career, I guess with Phoenix and New

1630
01:13:04,120 --> 01:13:06,000
Speaker 1: Jersey ended up being a Nick. I think he ended

1631
01:13:06,040 --> 01:13:08,720
Speaker 1: his career as a New York Nick. Picked up a

1632
01:13:08,800 --> 01:13:13,439
Speaker 1: championship with Dallas Mavericks and California. Guy he's a current

1633
01:13:13,479 --> 01:13:19,280
Speaker 1: coach in the NBA, Jason Jason Kidd. Yeah, yeah, the

1634
01:13:19,360 --> 01:13:23,720
Speaker 1: daily double, the daily double. So he ended his career

1635
01:13:23,760 --> 01:13:24,519
Speaker 1: with the next that's right.

1636
01:13:24,600 --> 01:13:27,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was a great year at twenty twelve, twenty thirteen.

1637
01:13:27,520 --> 01:13:30,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, because it was after the championship and I think

1638
01:13:30,400 --> 01:13:32,880
Speaker 1: Mark Cuban was going to resign him or he was

1639
01:13:32,920 --> 01:13:34,720
Speaker 1: going to resign and then he took the money and

1640
01:13:34,720 --> 01:13:36,160
Speaker 1: rent to New York there.

1641
01:13:36,240 --> 01:13:39,360
Speaker 2: So yeah, and I think like he missed his last

1642
01:13:39,400 --> 01:13:41,400
Speaker 2: like twenty Yeah.

1643
01:13:41,800 --> 01:13:44,439
Speaker 1: I think when he retired he was third in three

1644
01:13:44,479 --> 01:13:47,200
Speaker 1: pointers May two or something. Like that in history. Yeah,

1645
01:13:47,200 --> 01:13:50,519
Speaker 1: now he's probably you know, twenty fifth or something. All Right,

1646
01:13:50,560 --> 01:13:52,360
Speaker 1: we've got two more to go, and I'm pretty happy.

1647
01:13:52,479 --> 01:13:54,280
Speaker 1: I'm pretty happy how we're going to end this one.

1648
01:13:54,360 --> 01:13:58,720
Speaker 1: Because one guy, the first one here, he was a

1649
01:13:58,760 --> 01:14:02,000
Speaker 1: one time All Star, had an incredible All Star weekend

1650
01:14:02,040 --> 01:14:03,960
Speaker 1: back in nineteen eighty nine. He was a starter for

1651
01:14:04,000 --> 01:14:07,200
Speaker 1: the West. He won the three point shootout and I

1652
01:14:07,240 --> 01:14:09,439
Speaker 1: think he was the first guy ever to make a

1653
01:14:09,520 --> 01:14:12,479
Speaker 1: thousand and three pointers. Think of him as a Sonic

1654
01:14:12,600 --> 01:14:17,679
Speaker 1: mainly Ricky Pierce, not Ricky Pierce. No, this guy was

1655
01:14:17,720 --> 01:14:22,200
Speaker 1: a shooter. And then he was a Spur as well

1656
01:14:22,240 --> 01:14:24,439
Speaker 1: there for a while. Dallas, Maverick. He got trade. It

1657
01:14:24,439 --> 01:14:26,120
Speaker 1: was a big trade. He was in from Dallas, and

1658
01:14:26,160 --> 01:14:27,000
Speaker 1: he went to Seattle.

1659
01:14:27,680 --> 01:14:31,240
Speaker 2: And in this in this pack, he's on Witch team.

1660
01:14:31,040 --> 01:14:33,760
Speaker 1: He's on the Sonics. So he must have gone back

1661
01:14:33,800 --> 01:14:38,800
Speaker 1: to Seattle, because yeah, he went He went Dallas, Seattle, Milwaukee,

1662
01:14:39,000 --> 01:14:41,880
Speaker 1: San Antonio, Denver, and then ended back in Seattle where

1663
01:14:41,920 --> 01:14:42,519
Speaker 1: it started.

1664
01:14:43,120 --> 01:14:53,600
Speaker 2: And oh oh uh ellis yeah, sorry, sorry, why was

1665
01:14:53,640 --> 01:14:54,479
Speaker 2: he thinking? Ricky Peers?

1666
01:14:54,920 --> 01:14:58,120
Speaker 1: Definitely in ninety one, Ricky Pierce made an All Star

1667
01:14:58,200 --> 01:15:00,320
Speaker 1: team and he was a shooter off the bench there

1668
01:15:00,320 --> 01:15:02,160
Speaker 1: for those those Sonics teams.

1669
01:15:02,880 --> 01:15:06,200
Speaker 2: I haven't thought of Dale Ellison like decade.

1670
01:15:06,320 --> 01:15:08,200
Speaker 1: He actually lives not far from here. I think he

1671
01:15:08,240 --> 01:15:10,479
Speaker 1: lives really Yeah, I think he lives about twenty five

1672
01:15:10,640 --> 01:15:13,920
Speaker 1: thirty minutes out of Atlanta. Yeah. I follow him on

1673
01:15:13,960 --> 01:15:15,680
Speaker 1: Instagram and he follows me. I've been trying. I've been

1674
01:15:15,680 --> 01:15:16,639
Speaker 1: trying to get him on as well.

1675
01:15:16,680 --> 01:15:17,479
Speaker 2: But it would be fun.

1676
01:15:17,600 --> 01:15:18,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know it'd be awesome.

1677
01:15:18,920 --> 01:15:22,160
Speaker 2: All right, Well, I'd love to get a Sam Perkins

1678
01:15:22,160 --> 01:15:23,559
Speaker 2: cameo on this. What about Sam?

1679
01:15:23,880 --> 01:15:27,280
Speaker 1: I tried. I tried to get the big, smooth no response.

1680
01:15:27,360 --> 01:15:28,839
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm just being a DM.

1681
01:15:28,640 --> 01:15:30,360
Speaker 2: And what are you doing? You're just randomly dming.

1682
01:15:30,400 --> 01:15:32,920
Speaker 1: He goes just saying, hey, you know, listen.

1683
01:15:32,720 --> 01:15:33,920
Speaker 2: What about never nervous?

1684
01:15:34,680 --> 01:15:37,280
Speaker 1: I haven't. I haven't asked him, actually haven't asked him.

1685
01:15:37,439 --> 01:15:39,160
Speaker 2: Who's the most random one that? You were like, there's

1686
01:15:39,160 --> 01:15:41,000
Speaker 2: no chance this guy is going to respond? And he

1687
01:15:41,080 --> 01:15:42,439
Speaker 2: responded and came on.

1688
01:15:42,439 --> 01:15:46,000
Speaker 1: Well, I mean I've had James Worthy on Dominique.

1689
01:15:46,120 --> 01:15:46,720
Speaker 2: That's a great one.

1690
01:15:46,880 --> 01:15:51,360
Speaker 1: Ralph Sampson just from a just from a call DM. Well,

1691
01:15:51,439 --> 01:15:53,080
Speaker 1: James Worthy of a friend. I don't know if you

1692
01:15:53,080 --> 01:15:56,120
Speaker 1: know Ben Lyons of course, Yeah, Ben Lyons is sort

1693
01:15:56,160 --> 01:15:57,760
Speaker 1: of connected to him there, and so I put a

1694
01:15:57,760 --> 01:16:00,679
Speaker 1: little slid into Ben's DMS and he slid into James

1695
01:16:00,800 --> 01:16:04,679
Speaker 1: d MS and happened. So yeah, I mean Magic would

1696
01:16:04,680 --> 01:16:06,120
Speaker 1: be the one I'd love to get on as well.

1697
01:16:06,040 --> 01:16:07,320
Speaker 2: Because I was just going to ask you, who's your

1698
01:16:07,400 --> 01:16:08,680
Speaker 2: dream guest Magic?

1699
01:16:08,760 --> 01:16:10,599
Speaker 1: Because of the stories. I mean, he you know, as

1700
01:16:10,600 --> 01:16:13,320
Speaker 1: a storytelling you know that Dream Team documentary, you know,

1701
01:16:13,360 --> 01:16:16,840
Speaker 1: with Magic Talks. It's just so energetic and so much fun.

1702
01:16:17,080 --> 01:16:19,160
Speaker 1: So I'd love to get him. I mean, obviously Michael,

1703
01:16:19,200 --> 01:16:21,120
Speaker 1: but that's impossible to get him.

1704
01:16:21,600 --> 01:16:23,680
Speaker 2: He was like the most realistic dream guests. Do you

1705
01:16:23,800 --> 01:16:27,960
Speaker 2: think you could get Hmmm, that's because Magic might be tought.

1706
01:16:28,200 --> 01:16:29,960
Speaker 1: I mean, I just need an inn. I need the

1707
01:16:30,000 --> 01:16:31,880
Speaker 1: inn because I think Magic would actually be up for

1708
01:16:31,920 --> 01:16:33,439
Speaker 1: it if I could just get someone to sort of

1709
01:16:33,479 --> 01:16:37,240
Speaker 1: like pokeing. Oh the most was Reggie. I wanted to

1710
01:16:37,240 --> 01:16:40,439
Speaker 1: get Reggie on it because he had some great battles

1711
01:16:40,439 --> 01:16:42,879
Speaker 1: obviously in the nineties against the Celtics and the Knicks.

1712
01:16:43,160 --> 01:16:45,639
Speaker 1: I was working there with Reggie, but came up short.

1713
01:16:45,720 --> 01:16:47,320
Speaker 2: So well, he denied you.

1714
01:16:48,080 --> 01:16:50,599
Speaker 1: He denied me. Yes, ah, you know what.

1715
01:16:50,680 --> 01:16:54,320
Speaker 2: I never liked Reggie. Do you come on? What do

1716
01:16:54,360 --> 01:16:55,479
Speaker 2: you say, I'm too busy?

1717
01:16:55,720 --> 01:16:57,720
Speaker 1: No, Well, we used to work together at Turner. Yeah,

1718
01:16:57,800 --> 01:17:01,200
Speaker 1: and I was working the Turner angle there and he

1719
01:17:01,320 --> 01:17:06,000
Speaker 1: politely declined, was the last. Yeah you ever try for Shaq? Yes,

1720
01:17:06,240 --> 01:17:09,800
Speaker 1: try for Shack too, but never Shack would do it. Yeah,

1721
01:17:09,880 --> 01:17:11,640
Speaker 1: I did too. I mean he's in Atlanta too. I

1722
01:17:11,680 --> 01:17:13,559
Speaker 1: should I should try him again, you know, I sort of,

1723
01:17:13,800 --> 01:17:15,760
Speaker 1: you know, once the seasons all started up again and

1724
01:17:15,880 --> 01:17:18,200
Speaker 1: sort of died off it there. But Charles, Yeah, I've

1725
01:17:18,240 --> 01:17:22,160
Speaker 1: got Charles. I saw him not too long ago. I

1726
01:17:22,200 --> 01:17:24,680
Speaker 1: had him. I had Daryl Morey on a while ago.

1727
01:17:25,080 --> 01:17:26,080
Speaker 2: That one I had fun one.

1728
01:17:26,120 --> 01:17:28,040
Speaker 1: You know who I did have one, Zaviy McDaniel. He

1729
01:17:28,080 --> 01:17:28,639
Speaker 1: was incredible.

1730
01:17:28,680 --> 01:17:30,639
Speaker 2: I saw that one too. Yeah, that was a great one.

1731
01:17:30,680 --> 01:17:32,840
Speaker 1: I loved. Yeah, he was so good.

1732
01:17:32,880 --> 01:17:34,080
Speaker 2: Oh so you know it would be a fun one

1733
01:17:34,080 --> 01:17:38,120
Speaker 2: e j oh Yeah yeah hmm.

1734
01:17:38,840 --> 01:17:41,560
Speaker 1: Now you know, maybe we should work together on this one.

1735
01:17:41,800 --> 01:17:43,960
Speaker 2: That's what I do. I book guess. In the thirteen

1736
01:17:44,040 --> 01:17:46,080
Speaker 2: years of doing my show, I'm the only one to

1737
01:17:46,080 --> 01:17:47,360
Speaker 2: ever book a guess.

1738
01:17:47,720 --> 01:17:49,760
Speaker 1: Wow. So you know how hard it? I mean, how

1739
01:17:49,760 --> 01:17:51,280
Speaker 1: many No's do you get before you get a yes?

1740
01:17:51,360 --> 01:17:53,639
Speaker 1: Do you think most of the time it's fun?

1741
01:17:53,720 --> 01:17:53,840
Speaker 2: Right?

1742
01:17:53,880 --> 01:17:55,920
Speaker 1: Yeah? Probably now it's not as not as hard for

1743
01:17:55,960 --> 01:17:57,920
Speaker 1: you now, but.

1744
01:17:57,200 --> 01:17:59,280
Speaker 2: I'm still like asking the rock to come on and

1745
01:17:59,360 --> 01:18:01,080
Speaker 2: all these things, and it's like why you do it?

1746
01:18:01,120 --> 01:18:02,320
Speaker 2: But you know, sometimes you.

1747
01:18:02,240 --> 01:18:04,800
Speaker 1: Know, you get yes, exactly is great, that's exactly right.

1748
01:18:04,880 --> 01:18:07,280
Speaker 1: Sometimes you just get that yes and it's like it's awesome.

1749
01:18:07,360 --> 01:18:09,719
Speaker 1: So I've had a few who have kind of ghosted

1750
01:18:09,760 --> 01:18:11,760
Speaker 1: me as well, you know, they said, yeah, I'm coming on,

1751
01:18:11,800 --> 01:18:12,240
Speaker 1: and then.

1752
01:18:12,640 --> 01:18:14,880
Speaker 2: Oh really, yeah, name names, let's go.

1753
01:18:15,720 --> 01:18:19,479
Speaker 1: I'll say that for the cold mic rather than the

1754
01:18:19,479 --> 01:18:21,880
Speaker 1: hot mic. All right, well, let's wrap it up here.

1755
01:18:21,880 --> 01:18:24,519
Speaker 1: And I'm very glad to end on this one because

1756
01:18:24,520 --> 01:18:27,519
Speaker 1: this guy is also a Knicks legend. I mean, started

1757
01:18:27,560 --> 01:18:30,960
Speaker 1: his career with the Charlotte Hornets but ended his career

1758
01:18:30,960 --> 01:18:34,360
Speaker 1: with the Knicks. Hit a huge shot there. Oh yeah, yeah,

1759
01:18:34,400 --> 01:18:36,680
Speaker 1: you don't even need to say his name. What a

1760
01:18:36,720 --> 01:18:37,840
Speaker 1: perfect way to.

1761
01:18:38,600 --> 01:18:41,040
Speaker 2: See this is better. I'm glad we did this. Yeah,

1762
01:18:41,520 --> 01:18:45,559
Speaker 2: those jerseys with the black against those Cleveland Cavaliers guys.

1763
01:18:45,760 --> 01:18:48,640
Speaker 2: I can't quite see who he's playing against. There, is

1764
01:18:48,640 --> 01:18:49,680
Speaker 2: that Bobby Phil's no.

1765
01:18:49,840 --> 01:18:52,320
Speaker 1: No, it's I think that's Derek Anderson and then Gerald.

1766
01:18:52,840 --> 01:18:54,680
Speaker 1: I don't think it's Gerald Henderson. I'm not sure who

1767
01:18:54,680 --> 01:18:56,080
Speaker 1: that other Henderson is there, but.

1768
01:18:56,320 --> 01:18:59,040
Speaker 2: Oh man, those are great memories. Nineteen ninety nine. I

1769
01:18:59,040 --> 01:19:02,880
Speaker 2: remember he hit that shot. Oh yeah, questionable call, of course,

1770
01:19:02,920 --> 01:19:04,559
Speaker 2: I could admit it. You know, was it a foul?

1771
01:19:04,640 --> 01:19:07,599
Speaker 2: Was it not a foul? And he had the big beard. Yeah,

1772
01:19:07,680 --> 01:19:09,920
Speaker 2: the jersey. The one thing about that jersey was like

1773
01:19:09,960 --> 01:19:12,080
Speaker 2: the neck was so big, like you could see like

1774
01:19:12,080 --> 01:19:13,920
Speaker 2: all his chest hair. It was weird that they cut

1775
01:19:13,920 --> 01:19:15,439
Speaker 2: it like that. And then he I think he did

1776
01:19:15,520 --> 01:19:18,080
Speaker 2: the walk off interview with Jim Gray and he said

1777
01:19:18,120 --> 01:19:20,000
Speaker 2: a la walkbar and I was like, what is Larry

1778
01:19:20,040 --> 01:19:23,120
Speaker 2: Johnson Muslim? All of a sudden, what's going on? Yes?

1779
01:19:23,200 --> 01:19:23,719
Speaker 2: That was great.

1780
01:19:24,200 --> 01:19:26,200
Speaker 1: Wow. I did not I did not know that.

1781
01:19:26,240 --> 01:19:29,080
Speaker 2: But go watch the postgame interview for like the walk off,

1782
01:19:29,080 --> 01:19:31,960
Speaker 2: and it's like complete madness. And one other thing that

1783
01:19:31,960 --> 01:19:34,439
Speaker 2: I love about that moment was he hits the three. Yeah,

1784
01:19:34,520 --> 01:19:37,040
Speaker 2: and you remember he runs and Chris Childs runs up

1785
01:19:37,040 --> 01:19:38,680
Speaker 2: to him and is like, calm down, you have to

1786
01:19:38,760 --> 01:19:40,800
Speaker 2: hit the free throw, right. I remember that, And you

1787
01:19:40,800 --> 01:19:43,200
Speaker 2: know his free throw is like I always felt like

1788
01:19:43,240 --> 01:19:44,680
Speaker 2: they just made it because he would go on his

1789
01:19:44,760 --> 01:19:46,880
Speaker 2: tippy toes and I was like, oh, if he bricks this,

1790
01:19:47,000 --> 01:19:49,000
Speaker 2: like he would shoot up here. If he bricks this,

1791
01:19:49,000 --> 01:19:51,080
Speaker 2: this would be horrible. Makes the shot and they almost

1792
01:19:51,080 --> 01:19:53,280
Speaker 2: scored on the on the other end, and then it

1793
01:19:53,320 --> 01:19:56,479
Speaker 2: was complete pandemonium. I think it was if now I'm

1794
01:19:56,479 --> 01:19:59,680
Speaker 2: going real uh deep. It was Tom Hammond and I

1795
01:19:59,720 --> 01:20:03,000
Speaker 2: think Bill Walton who called it on a Saturday evening

1796
01:20:03,080 --> 01:20:06,400
Speaker 2: for NBC, and Gray did the walk off and it's

1797
01:20:06,479 --> 01:20:09,040
Speaker 2: complete pandemonium and he goes allah walk bar and I

1798
01:20:09,080 --> 01:20:12,080
Speaker 2: was like, what my parents speak Arabic from the Middle East,

1799
01:20:12,160 --> 01:20:15,000
Speaker 2: and I was just like, when did Larry Johnson become Muslim?

1800
01:20:15,040 --> 01:20:17,920
Speaker 2: So yeah, I like actually last year, the Knicks were

1801
01:20:17,920 --> 01:20:20,479
Speaker 2: doing a Twitter spaces uh and they asked me to

1802
01:20:20,520 --> 01:20:22,439
Speaker 2: come on before. I think it was Game three of

1803
01:20:22,479 --> 01:20:25,760
Speaker 2: the Hawks series and Larry Johnson came on and I

1804
01:20:25,840 --> 01:20:28,800
Speaker 2: completely hijacked the whole thing. It was just like it

1805
01:20:28,840 --> 01:20:31,280
Speaker 2: was like Chris Farley on Saturday Night Live with Paul McCartney.

1806
01:20:31,320 --> 01:20:33,200
Speaker 2: I was like, you remember that time, Yeah, that was awesome,

1807
01:20:33,200 --> 01:20:34,960
Speaker 2: And I brought up the Ala walk bar to him.

1808
01:20:35,040 --> 01:20:40,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, well, chukron for your time here today, like

1809
01:20:40,400 --> 01:20:43,000
Speaker 1: him my brother, I hope you're not going to ask

1810
01:20:43,040 --> 01:20:45,240
Speaker 1: me for backshees shoft to this one. No, no, no,

1811
01:20:46,280 --> 01:20:48,320
Speaker 1: those are the two words I remember from traveling through

1812
01:20:48,360 --> 01:20:52,200
Speaker 1: the Middle East. It's chokron and backsheesh everywhere you go, bucksheesh, bucksheesh.

1813
01:20:52,280 --> 01:20:56,240
Speaker 1: I'm like, wow, crazy stuff, But hey, this has been awesome,

1814
01:20:56,240 --> 01:20:58,800
Speaker 1: Mariol Thanks again. I mean this is I know you're

1815
01:20:58,840 --> 01:21:00,760
Speaker 1: a very busy person. You got is going on, so

1816
01:21:01,040 --> 01:21:01,320
Speaker 1: this was.

1817
01:21:01,280 --> 01:21:02,160
Speaker 2: The highlight of my week.

1818
01:21:02,160 --> 01:21:04,679
Speaker 1: I'm kidding me. I know you do have a weakness

1819
01:21:04,720 --> 01:21:06,600
Speaker 1: here if a nineties basketball especially.

1820
01:21:06,320 --> 01:21:08,960
Speaker 2: I love it. Wow, and I appreciate I think this

1821
01:21:09,000 --> 01:21:11,880
Speaker 2: isn't your typical day for taping, so I appreciate you

1822
01:21:11,880 --> 01:21:15,040
Speaker 2: you working with me and any time. And I would

1823
01:21:15,040 --> 01:21:17,960
Speaker 2: just like to say unequivocally, I mean, feel free JD.

1824
01:21:18,240 --> 01:21:21,160
Speaker 2: Whomever is in the back clip this off, cut it up,

1825
01:21:21,479 --> 01:21:24,160
Speaker 2: post it before every guest comes on and after I

1826
01:21:24,200 --> 01:21:28,360
Speaker 2: will beat every single one of those Jabroni's easily. Okay, Yeah,

1827
01:21:28,400 --> 01:21:30,400
Speaker 2: sure I missed a couple here and there, but they

1828
01:21:30,439 --> 01:21:33,360
Speaker 2: cannot hold a candle to my nineties basketball knowledge. They

1829
01:21:33,439 --> 01:21:36,280
Speaker 2: call me Heljani for a reason. It isn't just a nickname.

1830
01:21:36,400 --> 01:21:39,800
Speaker 2: It's a lifestyle. Okay, it's a mindset. And I will,

1831
01:21:39,880 --> 01:21:41,680
Speaker 2: I mean, I will lay the SmackDown on every one

1832
01:21:41,720 --> 01:21:43,360
Speaker 2: of those guys. So you know, if you want to

1833
01:21:43,400 --> 01:21:45,519
Speaker 2: set it up, just let me know and I'll be there.

1834
01:21:45,600 --> 01:21:46,479
Speaker 2: This is no problem.

1835
01:21:46,960 --> 01:21:49,719
Speaker 1: If Mike Brain or mav Albert or someone said, listen,

1836
01:21:49,760 --> 01:21:52,000
Speaker 1: Steph Curry, I can beat you in a three point shootout,

1837
01:21:52,000 --> 01:21:53,640
Speaker 1: all right, I could take you. Guys. What are you

1838
01:21:53,640 --> 01:21:54,120
Speaker 1: trying to say?

1839
01:21:54,400 --> 01:21:55,360
Speaker 2: Just think I have a chance.

1840
01:21:55,400 --> 01:21:57,080
Speaker 1: No, you have a chance, So sure and just say

1841
01:21:57,080 --> 01:21:59,880
Speaker 1: you're turning into like what you you sort of interview

1842
01:22:00,040 --> 01:22:01,840
Speaker 1: all the time, you know, like what I love.

1843
01:22:02,280 --> 01:22:05,200
Speaker 2: I'm a product of nineteen eighties pro wrestling as well,

1844
01:22:05,600 --> 01:22:08,479
Speaker 2: so yeah, I always wanted to be a basketball player first,

1845
01:22:08,520 --> 01:22:10,519
Speaker 2: but I quickly realized that that wasn't going to happen,

1846
01:22:10,600 --> 01:22:13,160
Speaker 2: so I had to develop the characters. But no, but

1847
01:22:13,200 --> 01:22:15,000
Speaker 2: by the way, as they see in the wrestling business,

1848
01:22:15,080 --> 01:22:17,599
Speaker 2: that's a shoot. Okay, I'm not playing a character here.

1849
01:22:18,040 --> 01:22:20,320
Speaker 2: I'm shooting on these guys right now. No one could.

1850
01:22:20,320 --> 01:22:22,360
Speaker 2: I mean Ben as well, I think he fancies himself

1851
01:22:22,400 --> 01:22:25,280
Speaker 2: for a basketball fiicionado. I mean, what do you want

1852
01:22:25,280 --> 01:22:27,160
Speaker 2: to talk about inside stuff? I want to talk about

1853
01:22:27,160 --> 01:22:28,800
Speaker 2: will Obey. You want to talk about a model show.

1854
01:22:29,120 --> 01:22:31,160
Speaker 2: We can talk about these people if you want. I

1855
01:22:31,200 --> 01:22:33,559
Speaker 2: wasn't a big fan of the summer Sanders there Lovely Lady,

1856
01:22:33,560 --> 01:22:35,360
Speaker 2: but it just got a little weird after it, you know.

1857
01:22:35,520 --> 01:22:38,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's funny because that was the same in Australia.

1858
01:22:38,080 --> 01:22:41,280
Speaker 1: The first things we got were NBA Action with Jim

1859
01:22:41,320 --> 01:22:44,640
Speaker 1: Fagan and then Ainiego does a great job with that,

1860
01:22:44,760 --> 01:22:47,599
Speaker 1: yes he does, and then of course inside stuff as well.

1861
01:22:47,600 --> 01:22:49,080
Speaker 1: So I used to get up like six in the

1862
01:22:49,080 --> 01:22:50,880
Speaker 1: morning on a Saturday. It was never on the you know,

1863
01:22:51,160 --> 01:22:54,599
Speaker 1: never prime time. Take them all, Watch them all, and

1864
01:22:54,600 --> 01:22:56,400
Speaker 1: that's been incredible. I got to interview with mart a

1865
01:22:56,439 --> 01:22:58,000
Speaker 1: few years ago at the finals and it was like,

1866
01:22:58,320 --> 01:23:01,000
Speaker 1: I can't believe I'm talking here to a Mart Ma man.

1867
01:23:01,479 --> 01:23:04,599
Speaker 2: What a legend. His wife, Felicia Rashad x y, Yes,

1868
01:23:05,240 --> 01:23:07,960
Speaker 2: that was the was the guest speaker at my graduation.

1869
01:23:08,120 --> 01:23:08,360
Speaker 1: Wow.

1870
01:23:08,360 --> 01:23:11,960
Speaker 2: And I was more excited about the fact that's wife

1871
01:23:12,000 --> 01:23:14,720
Speaker 2: was the guest speaker than you know, Claire Huxtable being there,

1872
01:23:14,920 --> 01:23:16,880
Speaker 2: just because of the connection. In fact, my brother's short

1873
01:23:17,040 --> 01:23:19,360
Speaker 2: birthday two years ago, I got him a cameo from

1874
01:23:19,400 --> 01:23:21,759
Speaker 2: a mad Rasha. Wow, it was a good one.

1875
01:23:21,880 --> 01:23:22,160
Speaker 1: Wow.

1876
01:23:22,400 --> 01:23:23,040
Speaker 2: What a voice.

1877
01:23:23,320 --> 01:23:26,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's thensky, sort of squeaky little voices.

1878
01:23:26,280 --> 01:23:27,000
Speaker 2: And he looks great.

1879
01:23:27,120 --> 01:23:28,000
Speaker 1: He does. Yeah.

1880
01:23:28,400 --> 01:23:30,160
Speaker 2: Remember when they would always show him hitting a three

1881
01:23:30,160 --> 01:23:32,160
Speaker 2: in a preseason game for the Sixers, they would always

1882
01:23:32,160 --> 01:23:32,759
Speaker 2: show that.

1883
01:23:32,560 --> 01:23:35,479
Speaker 1: That's right, he played. He actually played in the game, which.

1884
01:23:35,320 --> 01:23:38,200
Speaker 2: Is yes, he hit a three, a corner three.

1885
01:23:38,400 --> 01:23:41,240
Speaker 1: There was what was it? There was something about I

1886
01:23:41,240 --> 01:23:44,280
Speaker 1: think David Stern, you know when when Inside stuff launched,

1887
01:23:44,320 --> 01:23:47,400
Speaker 1: they're like he said to NBC, like you're really going

1888
01:23:47,479 --> 01:23:49,640
Speaker 1: with a football guy to you know, to do the

1889
01:23:49,680 --> 01:23:50,400
Speaker 1: basketball show.

1890
01:23:50,439 --> 01:23:50,799
Speaker 2: Perfect.

1891
01:23:51,120 --> 01:23:52,840
Speaker 1: It worked out incredible And now he's the only one

1892
01:23:52,880 --> 01:23:53,960
Speaker 1: who gets to speak to Michael.

1893
01:23:54,040 --> 01:23:58,479
Speaker 2: So you always my main man, so and so of course, yeah,

1894
01:23:58,479 --> 01:23:59,880
Speaker 2: I said that we can do this old day.

1895
01:24:00,200 --> 01:24:03,200
Speaker 1: It is all right. Yep, thanks a lot, Ariel. It's

1896
01:24:03,240 --> 01:24:05,559
Speaker 1: been really awesome, man. And hopefully one day somewhere now

1897
01:24:05,600 --> 01:24:07,760
Speaker 1: that things have started to restrictions to start to live,

1898
01:24:07,840 --> 01:24:11,439
Speaker 1: maybe we can do it in person in Vegas, New York, Atlanta, Toronto,

1899
01:24:11,479 --> 01:24:15,400
Speaker 1: who knows, but anyway, everyone go and follow Ariel. I'm

1900
01:24:15,400 --> 01:24:17,880
Speaker 1: sure you know who he is anyway from the UFC

1901
01:24:18,000 --> 01:24:20,560
Speaker 1: MMA world, but he's also a big basketball hoops So

1902
01:24:20,560 --> 01:24:22,559
Speaker 1: if you see him on the street, pop a pack

1903
01:24:22,640 --> 01:24:24,600
Speaker 1: of cards with an Ariel I guarantee he's going to

1904
01:24:25,080 --> 01:24:27,479
Speaker 1: answer them with you. So thanks a lot, Ariel and

1905
01:24:28,160 --> 01:24:31,920
Speaker 1: Clipper bros. Oh no, no Clipper bros for us, No

1906
01:24:31,960 --> 01:24:35,560
Speaker 1: Clipper sorry JD. We'll see you on Monday, guys,