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Speaker 1: The first thing I'll tell you that that the White

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Speaker 1: and they will do the job to defend the president.

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Speaker 1: But this campaign today, I mean, we wake up every

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Speaker 1: day in a war room surrounded by professional communicators, some

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Speaker 1: of the best in the business, and our job is

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Speaker 1: to amplify the message of the presidents of the United

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Speaker 1: And that's true whether we are talking about the U

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Speaker 1: or whether it's about their latest health care takeover schemes,

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Speaker 1: or if it's about impeachment. We're ready to go. We'd

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Speaker 1: rather not have to do this because the American people

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Speaker 1: shouldn't have to go through this. But if that's where

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Speaker 1: the Democrats want to go, if Thoma and Louise joined

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Speaker 1: the squad and Nancy Pelosi and drive this thing off

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Speaker 1: the cliff. Then we will be there to be able

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Speaker 1: to defend the president, to amplify his message. And I

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Speaker 1: can think of no better team along with the ones

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Speaker 1: in the White House, our friends in the White House

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Speaker 1: that are prepared to do it all right, Mark Lottter,

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Speaker 1: Strategic Communications director for the Trump twenty campaign. A lot

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Speaker 1: to get there today, foreign policy, domestic policy, and of

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Speaker 1: course the impeachment inquiry. Thank you for your time. I'll

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Speaker 1: check in with you later as well. Coming up, Panel reacts, Hey,

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Speaker 1: if it was Don Jr. And not Hunter Biden, would

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Speaker 1: it change things? We're going to dive into that. Plus

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Speaker 1: what's on the panel's radar. NBA. The NBA is now

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Speaker 1: involved in the US China Tradespat, you got to hear

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Speaker 1: this story. I'm Kevin Cirelli, Chief Washington correspondent from Bloomberg

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Speaker 1: Television of Bloomberg Radio. You're listening to Bloomberg. This is

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Speaker 1: Bloomberg's Sound On with Kevin Surrele on Bloomberg and one

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Speaker 1: oh five point seven f M HD two. I'm Kevin Sireli,

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Speaker 1: Chief Washington Correspondent FRO Bloomberg Television, Bloomberg Radio. My guests

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Speaker 1: are Brett Bruin. He is the presidents of the Global

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Speaker 1: Situation Room and a former White House Director of Global Engagement.

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Speaker 1: And Richard Fowler, he's a Democrat, a nationally syndicated radio

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Speaker 1: show host, and a Fox News contributor. Gentleman, My Eagles

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Speaker 1: one yesterday, how about those Redskins, oh and five? The

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Speaker 1: Redskins having an awful year. But I listen. I'm not

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Speaker 1: were playing for home field advantage against Cincinnati, Okay, who

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Speaker 1: are like the worst team in the MLS. So I'm

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Speaker 1: watching there. They get to not one but two red cards. Okay,

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Speaker 1: so that means they were playing two players down and

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Speaker 1: d C United still couldn't get a goal, and I

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Speaker 1: was up in arms. It's a sign of affection being

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Speaker 1: from Philadelphia when you start booing for the team that

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Speaker 1: you're rooting rooting for. But I guess that's not really

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Speaker 1: kosher here in Washington, d C to uh to boo

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Speaker 1: for the team that you want to win, But they

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Speaker 1: candidly they deserved it. I say that with love because

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Speaker 1: it's been my escape. DC United has been my escape

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Speaker 1: from politics this season. But basketball it's it's caught up

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Speaker 1: in the middle bret of of Hong Kong and and

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Speaker 1: the China trade tobaccle. And that's what's all my radar.

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Speaker 1: Did you follow the story Brett? I did, and and

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Speaker 1: it's remarkable as a demonstration of the economic power the

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Speaker 1: China now wheels. Well, let me, let me, let me

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Speaker 1: set the stage for it. So, so you've got the

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Speaker 1: Houston Rockets that the general manager of the Houston Rockets

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Speaker 1: is Darryl Morey. He sends a tweet a couple of

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Speaker 1: days ago with an image in it that says, quote,

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Speaker 1: fight for freedom, Stand with Hong Kong. He has since

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Speaker 1: read from my colleague Derek Walbank's reporting on the Bloomberg

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Speaker 1: terminal the lead quote the NBA finds itself caught between

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Speaker 1: Chinese web internet have can't you can't search for the

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Speaker 1: Houston Rockets. Eight hundred million Chinese people. Chinese people watch

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Speaker 1: NBA programming on TV. As an illustration of what this

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Speaker 1: at the stage, and we've seen this play out also

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Speaker 1: with airlines US airlines. Yeah. Fashion, the power that China

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Speaker 1: and you're seeing companies, you're seeing sports leagues react to that.

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Speaker 1: But let me take this opportunity to point out that

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump has been radio island on Hong Kong protest.

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Speaker 1: If anything, he's given a green light to Beijing to

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Speaker 1: move forward using similar language actually as I saw him

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Speaker 1: use today with reference to the currents to treat people humanely. Now,

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Speaker 1: I don't think shooting unarmed protesters in the streets qualifies

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Speaker 1: as that. And yet my Republican friends up on Capitol

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Speaker 1: Hill have been radio silent when it comes to the Presidentfully,

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Speaker 1: may I'm going to push back respectfully because maybe they're

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Speaker 1: not being as loud as you would like. But radio

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Speaker 1: silent might be because President President let me bring in

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Speaker 1: the headlines the president from earlier this afternoon. He did say,

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Speaker 1: according to the Bloomberg Terminal and that the comments from

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Speaker 1: this afternoon, President Donald Trump warned China that if the

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Speaker 1: country does anything quote bad to quell protests in Hong Kong,

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Speaker 1: that trade negotiations with the U S woul suffer. Yes.

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Speaker 1: And yet, and yet we saw a litany of tweets

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Speaker 1: and our own president has not done so. The leader

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Speaker 1: been radio silent on that. It's just remarkable that that

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Speaker 1: Jing paying as he heads into these trade talks. Uh.

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Speaker 1: And they essentially just said to the n b A,

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Speaker 1: We'll watch this. You know, you think you think we're

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Speaker 1: really concerned about the Hong Kong protest, We're gonna shut

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Speaker 1: down commerce for a minute. With regards to the NBA.

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Speaker 1: That is that is such a fascinating story. Um, and

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's it's a really, really fascinating story.

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Speaker 1: So that's it's on my radar. What's on your radar?

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Speaker 1: Brea Well, I think coming back to it, it seems

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Speaker 1: like the election has taken sort of third or fourth billing.

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Speaker 1: But let's not forget this. Um is a critical period

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Speaker 1: are putting a big spotlight on an issue that has

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Speaker 1: not gained a lot of time or retention in the

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Speaker 1: Democratic primaries, national security. This is where candidates have got

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Speaker 1: to beef up their plans and also the amount of

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Speaker 1: time that they're dedicating to this issue because it is

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Speaker 1: going to dominate going forward. And as I've said before

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Speaker 1: who are not prepared for that debate. Well and and

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Speaker 1: Senator Bernie Sanders, Uh, he just has suffered a heart attack,

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Speaker 1: and of course he's getting bipartisan well wishes from across

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Speaker 1: And he's as he spoke for the first time since

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Speaker 1: his heart attack, just within the last hour CNN, how

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Speaker 1: appearing with his wife. Uh. And he was hospitalized for

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Speaker 1: that heart attack. He was on a walk. He says,

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Speaker 1: he's in good spirits. He's up walking, he's smiling. So

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Speaker 1: clearly he's showing that that he's going to be back

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Speaker 1: on the trail and he's in it for the race.

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Speaker 1: So that's great that that's on your radar, Richard Faller,

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Speaker 1: what's on your radar. On my radar is what's happening

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Speaker 1: in New York. A federal judge has just ruled he

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Speaker 1: dismissing President Trump's efforts to prevent his tax returns to

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Speaker 1: being turned over to New York to a New York

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Speaker 1: grand jury. And the reason why this is important is

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Speaker 1: beginning of the of this presidential cyclist. Can we see

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Speaker 1: the I r s, A, political appointees and everything to

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Speaker 1: block it. And now it seems as though a federal

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Speaker 1: um in the state of New York. And so we'll

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Speaker 1: see what that shows and where his money comes from. Totally,

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Speaker 1: it's been locked to this legal back and forth. The

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Speaker 1: but you know it's it's it's making its way through

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Speaker 1: the courts. All right, we got less than a minute left.

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Speaker 1: And I want to go back to something that Mark

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Speaker 1: Would Democrats be reacting the same way Brett Ruin. Yes.

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Speaker 1: And and here is the um real issue that Trump

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Speaker 1: Hunter Biden and what he was doing and that was

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Speaker 1: somehow influencing. It's about the call. They have not shown

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Speaker 1: But like thirty seconds, Richard, I want to give you

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Speaker 1: the last word on this, but clearly it's nepotis. I'm

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Speaker 1: the guy was making fifty grand a month at a holding.

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Speaker 1: Remember the reason why Joe Biden went over there and

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Speaker 1: asked for that prosecutor be fired is because NATO, the EU,

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Speaker 1: the United States, everything, it's illegal. I'm just saying, it's

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Speaker 1: welcome to Washington, all right. We gotta leave it there,

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Speaker 1: my all right, Prett Bruin, Richard Fowler, thank you, thank you,

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