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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. The second hour of Plan Bucks starts

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Speaker 1: right now, and we have been discussing on the show

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Speaker 1: pretty much daily last couple of weeks the prospect of

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Speaker 1: a Trump indictment by.

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Speaker 2: This Special Council.

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Speaker 1: Jack Smith, let me say this is one of those

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Speaker 1: times where I hope all of the reporting from the

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Speaker 1: Democrat media is wish casting. I hope that their whole

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Speaker 1: mentality of the walls are closing in and the obsession

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Speaker 1: they have with anything to get Trump is justified. At

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Speaker 1: any moment. Now they will finally get what they've wanted

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Speaker 1: for years, which is Trump to be branded a criminal

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Speaker 1: and even to spend time in a prison cell. That

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Speaker 1: is what the Democrat base wants. That is not a

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Speaker 1: fringe belief among Demos. That is what they want to happen.

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Speaker 1: And I think we have to take all of this

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Speaker 1: seriously just because one they've already indicted the Republican front

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Speaker 1: runner in New York City. Now that one I've said

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Speaker 1: this all along, I think my analysis is looking even

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Speaker 1: more prescient, maybe than when I first said it. I

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Speaker 1: think the New York indictment was the break in the

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Speaker 1: dam for what was going to come later. There's no

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Speaker 1: downside for Alvin Bragg in New York City to bring

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Speaker 1: this criminal charge against Trump. There's downside for the rule

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Speaker 1: of law. There's downside for New Yorkers who think to themselves,

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Speaker 1: can Republicans get a fair trial in this town?

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Speaker 2: Is that really a thing?

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Speaker 3: Now?

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Speaker 1: Are we not just a one party state politically? But

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Speaker 1: from a law and order judicial system criminal justice perspective?

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Speaker 1: Is New York City a place where you cannot go

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Speaker 1: a fair trial as a Republican? I think, you know,

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Speaker 1: unless maybe you're in like local court in Staten Island.

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Speaker 1: I think the answer is, yeah, you can't get a

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Speaker 1: fair trial, certainly if you're a Republican politician. Not with

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Speaker 1: Alvin Bragg calling the shots. So that was the first

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Speaker 1: prosecution as we know, that still to be decided. I

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Speaker 1: think that the case, the trial is set for what

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Speaker 1: is it next March?

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Speaker 4: Oh?

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Speaker 2: You mean right?

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Speaker 1: And the absolute thick of the Republican primary. It's a

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Speaker 1: criminal trial. Trump's going to have to show up. This

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Speaker 1: isn't a civil trial. You can't have this in absentia.

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Speaker 1: You know the lawyers will handle it. It's a criminal trial.

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Speaker 1: As absurd as it is, that process is going to

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Speaker 1: go through. The process is the punishment. Don't ever forget it.

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Speaker 1: Democrats live by that maxim But now we have the

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Speaker 1: latest on the possible federal charges against Donald Trump. Now,

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Speaker 1: if you remember Andrew Weisman. Andrew Weisman, just as a

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Speaker 1: quick review was they called him Muller's pit pull. He

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Speaker 1: was the guy who was really running the first Special

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Speaker 1: Council investigation of Donald Trump under when when Trump was president,

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Speaker 1: the so called Muller probe. And then we had that

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Speaker 1: moment where they'd all said, oh, Muller, you know, Muller

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Speaker 1: is an FBI director and a former marine and as

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Speaker 1: an Americans as anybody could, you know, as much an

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Speaker 1: American patriot as anybody could ever be, and he'll do

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Speaker 1: what's right. And then we saw him up there and

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Speaker 1: he's like, well, you know, I don't really know what

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Speaker 1: you know, the stuff and the things and they're going

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Speaker 1: after you know, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: And it it was really shocked.

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Speaker 1: I wasn't expecting that when they had Muller finally being

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Speaker 1: asked questions by Congress, and everyone goes, this guy should.

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Speaker 2: Have been retired many years ago.

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Speaker 1: Why did They do that because Weissman is a Democrat

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Speaker 1: attack guy and we all know it. So they had

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Speaker 1: to have Muller as the figurehead, Weissman as the guy

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Speaker 1: who was really trying to and the Trump presidency. He

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Speaker 1: was hoping to get a special counsel under Muller that

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Speaker 1: would have put forward charges, a recommendation of charges that

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Speaker 1: even if the DOJ, which you know it's Trump's DOJ,

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Speaker 1: had not acted on, would have been the basis for

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Speaker 2: That was the hope. Obviously that didn't happen.

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Speaker 1: But so Weissman is here saying it is clear, and

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Speaker 1: I want to tell you what the reporting is on

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Speaker 1: this week, and see, just because he's a partisan hack

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Speaker 1: doesn't mean that everything he says is untrue. Even the

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Speaker 1: most aggressive propagandists will tell you all throughout history. You

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Speaker 1: have to have some truth. You can't just lie all

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Speaker 1: the time. There has to be some baseline truth. And

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Speaker 1: I think the baseline truth here for Weisman is charges

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Speaker 1: against Trump, based on where things are in the process

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Speaker 1: are likely. And I'm not talking about six months from now.

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Speaker 1: These charges could come down next week. That's what most

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Speaker 1: people are saying here he is play eight.

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Speaker 4: It is legally permissible and possible to tell someone they

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Speaker 4: are target, to issue a target letter, and for them

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Speaker 4: eventually not to be charged. But I think when you're

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Speaker 4: complying sort of with a pro former DJ rule and

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Speaker 4: is just something that happens before you charge. And I

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Speaker 4: think in any ways, it's not news. Everyone's known, including

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Speaker 4: the defense camp, that Donald Trump has been the target

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Speaker 4: of this investigation for quite some time. This is really

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Speaker 4: a formality, and I think there's no question that he

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Speaker 4: question now when and if it's going to be in

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Speaker 1: Now they have a grand jury in Miami. This was

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Speaker 1: reported earlier this week, so as I'm talking to you here,

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Speaker 1: not far from where I am, they have a grand

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Speaker 1: jury that has been meeting in secret as they do,

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Speaker 1: and there have been senior Trump aids, a former Trump

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Speaker 1: it could be DC, it could be Florida where the

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Speaker 1: charges are officially and where the trial ends up being held.

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Speaker 1: But the point that he makes that I think we

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Speaker 1: have to look at seriously is everybody knows why is

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Speaker 1: it a special council because it involves Trump, Right, That's

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Speaker 1: how this whole thing came together. So of course he's

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Speaker 1: the target of the inquiry. Why is do oj informing

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Speaker 1: officially reported on here in the New York Times, It's

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Speaker 1: all over the place. Why are they reporting on this step?

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Speaker 1: Because I do think that this is just going through

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Speaker 1: the motions before they're going to put charges officially against Trump,

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Speaker 1: that he's going to be indicted. So what they're really

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Speaker 1: saying here this is from the New York Times piece

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Speaker 1: and this in court papers. Last year, prosecutors indicated that

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Speaker 1: they were scrutinizing whether mister Trump had broken laws governing

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Speaker 1: the handling of national security documents and whether he had

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Speaker 1: obstructed government efforts to retrieve them. Mister Trump was found

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Speaker 1: to have added more than three hundred documents with classified

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Speaker 1: including some found in a search there by FBI agents

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Speaker 1: two months after lawyers for the president said a diligent

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Speaker 1: Now here's where this is going to be a big fight.

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Speaker 1: Are the documents classified? If Trump says they're not. It's

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Speaker 1: not actually an easy question for the Democrats who want

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Speaker 1: to take him down to answer. Not by the letter

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Speaker 1: of the law, he was the president of the United States.

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Speaker 1: If he says that he took these documents because he

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Speaker 1: declassified them, there's some process, but it's not codified process.

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Speaker 1: It's if the president. Let me give you what I mean.

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Speaker 1: We used to call it when I was the CIA.

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Speaker 1: We called it when a president goes on TV. It's

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Speaker 1: real time declassification. So if Obama went on TV, for example,

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Speaker 1: and he did in different capacities and say, yeah, there

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Speaker 1: are drone strikes we're doing in Pakistan. Whoa hold on

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Speaker 1: a second, Wait, we don't talk about that. Oh well,

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Speaker 1: he's the president. So he says it, and guess what

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Speaker 1: he's allowed to That is now real time declassification, something

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Speaker 1: that you know, lower level government employees would never be

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Speaker 2: So that's just the decision of the commander in chief.

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Speaker 1: So with them, and they're gonna I know, all the

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Speaker 1: be oh my gosh. But you know, there has to

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Speaker 1: asked the community, and that's generally how they do it,

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Speaker 1: say the presidential custom has to be taken into account.

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Speaker 1: So what they're if the documents are not in fact classified,

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Speaker 1: meaning that Trump has declassified, this is going to be

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Speaker 2: What are we even talking about now?

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Speaker 1: What they're going to say is that he that him

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Speaker 1: that's where the obstruction comes in. They also may try

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Speaker 1: to hit him with a mishandling national defense information charge

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Speaker 1: Reports were all out on that yesterday. Trump responded, no

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Speaker 1: be because I've done nothing wrong. But I have assumed

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Speaker 1: for years that I am a target of the weaponized

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Speaker 1: DOJ and FBI. Well, he definitely is a target of

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Speaker 1: another special council meant to get Trump, and this one's

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Speaker 1: also not gonna recommend charges at the end.

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Speaker 2: What a in an election year? What are the chances

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Speaker 1: Think about it from the perspective of Democrat deviousness, Think

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Speaker 1: it's stunning that this is where we are. It's upsetting

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Speaker 1: because for the country, this is such a this is

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Speaker 1: such an abuse of the public trust. Would they be

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Speaker 1: bringing these charges against Donald Trump if he wasn't running?

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Speaker 2: Now?

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Speaker 1: They do hate him a lot, so it's possible that

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Speaker 1: the answer is yes, But I think most likely no.

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Speaker 1: I think they view this as an opportunity to stop

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Speaker 1: Not only will they be saying we'll turn the DOJ

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Speaker 1: for your presidential front runner. Oh oh, what message does

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Speaker 1: know this. Their belief is that by by taking Donald

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Speaker 1: Trump and prosecuting him while he's running for president, the

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Speaker 1: chilling effect on everybody else on the right, on all

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Speaker 1: conservatives is, see, we control this system. You think these

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Speaker 1: We'll get you, even if you're a former president, if

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Speaker 1: Is that the message that is going to be received?

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Speaker 1: Is it going out? I am sitting here, I pray

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Speaker 1: Thursday edition of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show

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Speaker 3: And I have no interest or no intention of pardoning

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Speaker 1: riots who were violent against police. How many of them

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Speaker 1: got eight years in federal prison? Just wondering how many

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Speaker 1: of them got decades? I mean the longest sentence I

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Speaker 1: think so far was for the oathkeeper head, who got

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Speaker 1: eighteen years in federal prison, no violence, no weapons, all

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Speaker 1: for conspiracy. Does that seem fair? I would want to

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Speaker 1: ask former Vice President Pens does that seem fair to you?

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Speaker 2: Okay?

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Speaker 1: And then let's take it to an even more egregious

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Speaker 1: miscarriage of justice. They held January sixth defendants in many

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Speaker 1: cases in solitary confinement as though they were a risk

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Speaker 1: to others. Refuse to give them pre trial release. These

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Speaker 1: are first time non violent offenders. Refuse to give some

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Speaker 1: of them pre trial release because judges in DC decided

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Speaker 1: that they were a risk for a second insurrection, as

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Speaker 1: if they were going to get out of prison. Their

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Speaker 1: lives are ruined, their jobs are gone, They're facing years

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Speaker 1: and years in prison. They're branded terrorists by the regime,

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Speaker 1: by the Biden White House in some cases, for doing

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Speaker 1: nothing more than walking into a building with police talking

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Speaker 1: to them and chatting with them friendly as they walked,

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Speaker 1: and then they're going to try another insurrection. Really does

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Speaker 1: anyone believe that? I don't think so well. Does any

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Speaker 1: reasonable rational person believe that I have to amend that

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Speaker 1: the answer is of course, no, Democrats have convinced themselves

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Speaker 1: as people are all enemies of the state.

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Speaker 2: You know what their ultimate crime was. For those who

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Speaker 2: were nonviolent, It's.

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Speaker 1: All a question of scale, right, It's all a question

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Speaker 1: of equal justice under the law. Why is somebody who

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Speaker 1: showed up and threw a punch on January sixth at

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Speaker 1: a police officer a terrorist and a person that has

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Speaker 1: to spend years and years in prison. But the hundreds,

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Speaker 1: if not thousands of BLM riders in twenty twenty throughout

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Speaker 1: that summer who threw bricks and rocks and punches and

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Speaker 1: more at cops, were any of them locked up for

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Speaker 1: years based on that?

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Speaker 4: No.

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Speaker 1: If you remember, Kamala Harris was raising money to get

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Speaker 1: them out of prison, the Bail Fund.

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Speaker 2: Remember that.

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Speaker 1: So we all understand that the justice system is being

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Speaker 1: weaponized against one side. This is not too excuse behavior.

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Speaker 1: You can't hit cops, you can't destroy public property.

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Speaker 2: We believe in rule of law there should be punishment,

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Speaker 2: but the punishment should be fair. It should be.

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Speaker 1: Commensurate with the offenses, not escalated into acting.

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Speaker 2: Like these are all members of al.

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Speaker 1: Qaeda or something you know al Qaeda in Maga hats

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Speaker 1: which is what has effectively.

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Speaker 2: Been done by the Biden d OJ.

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Speaker 1: Pence was pushed further on this one, and he was

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Speaker 1: asked again about whether he would pardon Trump.

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Speaker 2: Here's what he says, Play three.

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Speaker 3: If Donald Trump is convicted of a crime and you're

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Speaker 3: elected president, would you pardon him? Well, I don't want

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Speaker 3: to speak about hypotheticals. I'm not sure I'm going to

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Speaker 3: be elected president of the United States, but I believe

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Speaker 3: we have a fighting chance.

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Speaker 2: I really believe we do.

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Speaker 3: And if you are, and I would hope again, Dan,

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Speaker 3: you're as persistent as ever, living up.

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Speaker 2: To its reputation.

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Speaker 3: Look, there are real issues the American people are facing,

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Speaker 3: and rather than talking about that, I want to talk

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Speaker 3: about what the people you're in Iowa talking about, which

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Speaker 1: Didn't really address the question, which I thought was not

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Speaker 1: I would I would expect more from former Vice President Pence, obviously,

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Speaker 1: if they try to lock Donald Trump up for the

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Speaker 1: charges that have been discussed and that we are told

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Speaker 1: they're imminent. I'm just reporting on what is being reported

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Speaker 1: to you on that. I know it's unsettling, it's upsetting,

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Speaker 1: but I don't know anyone who doesn't believe they're that

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Speaker 1: these charges are coming at this point, including the Trump camp.

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Speaker 2: So why evade the question? For Pence?

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Speaker 1: We need somebody who knows what time it is in

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Speaker 1: this country. We need somebody who understands what we are

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Speaker 1: up against and the nature of the opposition. They are

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Speaker 1: weaponizing the law, they are abusing their power, they are

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Speaker 1: ruining people's lives, they are lying about it all, and

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Speaker 1: they don't care. So we have to win. That's a

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Speaker 1: is what this whole primary process is all about. We

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Speaker 1: Pence demand for this moment? Is he a fighter?

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Speaker 2: I'll leave that to you.

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Speaker 1: All right, so let's talk about the way the Biden

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Speaker 1: administration claims that it has been handling the issue of

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Speaker 1: but there are certainly federal.

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Speaker 2: Components to it.

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Speaker 1: And when you see what the narrative is from the Democrats,

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Speaker 1: the national Democrat narrative starting in twenty twenty, and how

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Speaker 1: it has continued to this day, you can see that

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Speaker 1: something very much changed. There's a non partisan think tank,

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Speaker 1: the Council on Criminal Justice.

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Speaker 2: This was looked at just a few what was it

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Speaker 2: a few.

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Speaker 1: Months ago, and it says that it tells you that

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Speaker 1: the following right, that so this is for the beginning

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Speaker 1: of twenty twenty three. That for last year, that last

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Speaker 1: year for which we have full data, the homicide rate

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Speaker 1: pretty much stayed the same across the country. Now, there

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Speaker 1: are some who will try to tell you, oh, okay,

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Speaker 1: it dropped like three or four percent. Some will tell you, well,

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Speaker 1: you know, it dropped a little bit it's up nationally

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Speaker 1: thirty percent since twenty nineteen, thirty four percent. Actually, so

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Speaker 1: you're talking about a third, more than a third increase

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Speaker 1: in homicides. That is now a durable new metric, like

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Speaker 1: that line is staying where it is. And this is

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Speaker 1: something that would, I would hope would be a massive

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Speaker 1: priority of anybody in a position of politics to deal

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Speaker 1: with it. But I think you need to need to

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Speaker 1: hear this Cree. Jean Pierre wants you to know that

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Speaker 1: the maiden administration has already dealt with.

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Speaker 2: The crime problem. Play six.

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Speaker 5: Recent study shows that fifty percent of retail workers have

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Speaker 5: seen some sort of retail and another nearly fifty percent

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Speaker 5: are afraid to go to work. So is the president

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Speaker 5: aware of retail theft? And how come the problems become

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Speaker 5: so pervasive? Under is a ten years?

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Speaker 6: So look what I can tell you is, unlike congressional Republicans,

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Speaker 6: the President has taken action. He has taken action to

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Speaker 6: deal with the crime, hiring police officers. You've seen that

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Speaker 6: from his actions that he's taken to cut crime. And

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Speaker 6: it started with the American Rescue Plan. The American Rescue

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Speaker 6: Plan had billions of dollars that went into communities to

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Speaker 6: hire police officers. So we have taken actions. We have

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Speaker 6: made sure that we do everything that we can to

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Speaker 6: try and protect communities and to make sure that police

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Speaker 6: officers are hired.

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's just nonsense, right, What does she even

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Speaker 1: say hiring police? Okay, where are you hiring the police officers?

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Speaker 1: What are you telling the police officers to do? Well,

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Speaker 1: you don't as a federal government, you don't really tell

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Speaker 1: them anything. But what is their mission? Are they able

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Speaker 1: to do their jobs? Or's the Biden White House with

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Speaker 1: the DOJ acting as the internet, going to make some

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Speaker 1: consent decree necessary for a police department. You know, there

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Speaker 1: are police departments that, because of racism allegations, have federal

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Speaker 1: overwatch on them, and then everyone goes, oh gosh, and

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Speaker 1: they have to share all their data and who are

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Speaker 1: they arresting and all the rest of it. Yeah, fifty percent,

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Speaker 1: think about that fifty percent.

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Speaker 2: This is from the White House.

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Speaker 1: She's being asked this question by by It wasn't a

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Speaker 1: Fox News guy, I don't think. I don't know who

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Speaker 1: that was, but by one of the members of the

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Speaker 1: Press Corps. Fifty percent of retail workers are afraid to

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Speaker 1: go to work because of all the crime. Think about

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Speaker 1: that now, they're always telling you in these different cities. Oh,

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Speaker 1: but you know it's it's mostly just property crime. Why

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Speaker 1: should you have to worry if someone is willing to

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Speaker 1: go into a store that you work in and brazenly

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Speaker 1: not the old shoplifting.

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Speaker 2: Can we just talk with this for a second.

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Speaker 1: It used to be shoplifting with somebody you know, stole

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Speaker 1: some merchandise, stuffed it up their shirt or it'll put

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Speaker 1: it in their pant leg and try to walk out

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Speaker 1: with nobody paying. That was our old version of shoplifting,

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Speaker 1: by and large in America. The new version, the democrat,

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Speaker 1: the post George Floyd BLM two point zero version of

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Speaker 1: shoplifting is get a big bag like Santa Claus would have,

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Speaker 1: and fill it with all the gifts you want, except

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Speaker 1: it's stolen merchandise, and then just walk out of the place,

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Speaker 1: just you know, take take the big bag of your

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Speaker 1: stolen goods, and know that the retail workers around you

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Speaker 1: they feel demeaned in this process. Their jobs are over

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Speaker 1: the long run, put at risk by this process because

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Speaker 1: the stores are getting robbed so much that they can't

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Speaker 1: make money, and then they get shut down. See San Francisco,

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Speaker 1: what's going on there? See the Whole Foods in downtown

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Speaker 1: San Franz that was supposed to serve Twitter headquarters that

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Speaker 1: had was it five hundred and nine to one one

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Speaker 1: calls in one year?

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Speaker 2: Something crazy like that, four hundred and eighty or four

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Speaker 2: fifty or something.

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Speaker 1: More than one a day?

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Speaker 2: Oh okay? What changed?

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Speaker 1: Well, when you have a criminal who walks into one

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Speaker 1: of these stores and understands that they can steal more

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Speaker 1: in five minutes than they would make in say a

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Speaker 1: minimum wage job in a day or a week, and

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Speaker 1: they don't care about the damage they're doing to society.

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Speaker 1: They don't care about theft as a bad thing that

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Speaker 1: people should not do.

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Speaker 2: They know that.

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Speaker 1: The retail employees, I mean, I mentioned to you yesterday

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Speaker 1: the CEO of Lulu Levin stands behind firing to employees

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Speaker 1: for trying to stop somebody from stealing.

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Speaker 2: It's just stuff.

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Speaker 1: He says, Okay, interesting, that's one approach, And I mean,

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Speaker 1: think about it.

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Speaker 2: Those people lost their jobs. They lost their jobs.

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Speaker 1: They've been working for this company in a Lulu lemon

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Speaker 1: and they are fired and treated horribly for trying to

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Speaker 1: do the right thing, which is to stop someone from stealing.

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Speaker 1: But no Democrats, especially rich democrats like the CEO of

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Speaker 1: lul lemon. It's an opportunity to virtue signal. Oh you know,

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Speaker 1: I don't care. It's you know, people need it more

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Speaker 1: than we do. Let them steal, let them take this

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Speaker 1: stuff will be fine. I mean, I might have to

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Speaker 1: shut down a few stores and fire hard working people

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Speaker 1: who show up and do the right thing, but you know,

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Speaker 1: I'll seem like I'm a big supporter of Democrat left

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Speaker 1: policies in all of this. Oh wow, the team sent

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Speaker 1: me this is This is This gives you a sense

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Speaker 1: of where things are. This is from the New York Post.

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Speaker 1: A pair of shady teenagers sank to a new low

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Speaker 1: when they looted an eight year old boys Upper west

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Speaker 1: Side sidewalk lemonade stand. The crooks waited until Julian Lynn

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Speaker 1: had his back turned. They snatched his money jar with

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Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty dollars and ran away, Well drove

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Speaker 1: away on two scooters.

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Speaker 2: It was a scooter drive by scooter theft.

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Speaker 1: I feel disappointed in humanity, the young entrepreneur told, I

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Speaker 1: love the upperwest Side dot com. I didn't realize that

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Speaker 1: somebody would want to rob an eight year old Of

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Speaker 1: course they do. Of course they do rob robed a

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Speaker 1: little eight year old boy. Think about it, Think about

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Speaker 1: what kind of person does that? Do you think the

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Speaker 1: kind of person who would in broad daylight rob an

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Speaker 1: eight year old boy lemonade?

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Speaker 2: Stand?

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Speaker 1: Do you think they're going to go on to be

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Speaker 1: Rhodes scholars and start their own businesses and do great things.

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Speaker 1: I don't think they're on a very good path. Do

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Speaker 1: you think it's better to let them get away with it?

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Speaker 1: Or if the cops catch them, to just say, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know, no big deal, no problem. We don't want

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Speaker 1: to put this on anyone's record. We don't want to

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Speaker 1: make things harder for them. Right, this is what's going on,

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Speaker 1: and every sane, honest person sees it. Democrats have gone

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Speaker 1: as far as they can to effectively legalize crime. This

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Speaker 1: is also why, going back to the stealing with bags

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Speaker 1: full of the stolen merchandise, even if the cops come,

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Speaker 1: nothing's going to happen to these people. They have no

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Speaker 1: fear anymore of the consequences of their law breaking. So

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Speaker 1: why would they stop? Why would they stop? And this

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Speaker 1: is why when I say, when I say that these

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Speaker 1: are decisions that are being made. Notice how many times

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Speaker 1: Democrat policies in the major cities we hear about some

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Speaker 1: horrible crime. Someone's you know, pushed another person in front

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Speaker 1: of a subway train. That happened recently in New York

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Speaker 1: City on the on the Upper East Side. A young woman,

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Speaker 1: she's paralyzed now because some vagrant maniac through her in

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Speaker 1: front of a train. Guy is long history of drug abuse,

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Speaker 1: many interactions with police, all this stuff. How many times

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Speaker 1: can you get arrested before they do something? Well, you know,

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Speaker 1: Alvin Bragg and the district attorneys in places like Philadelphia,

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Speaker 1: Saint Louis, San Francisco, their real approach is, look, you

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Speaker 1: steal as much as you want, We're not going to

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Speaker 1: do anything to you. You know, break into a car,

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Speaker 1: steal some cars, do all that stuff. You know, that's

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Speaker 1: that's just property crime. After the fiftieth the rest, though,

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Speaker 1: if we catch you because you murdered somebody, we might

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Speaker 1: have to lock you up for a bit. Seems to

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Speaker 1: be the mentality. These people who do the horrible things

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Speaker 1: have been arrested many, many, many times. Maybe it would

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Speaker 1: be better if there was some real punishment for all

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Speaker 1: of the crimes they had been doing before, maybe they

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Speaker 1: would have been taken out of society for a while

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Speaker 1: so that they wouldn't have posed a risk to their

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Speaker 1: fellow human beings. This is not complicated stuff, really, it's

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Speaker 1: actually quite straightforward. But Democrats would rather live in a

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Speaker 1: country where they get to feel virtuous at the expense

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Speaker 1: of others, or they get to virtue signal among their

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Speaker 1: fancy friends at Malibu and Hampton's cocktail parties, while the

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Speaker 1: working people day to day.

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Speaker 2: Retail is one of the biggest employers in the whole country.

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Speaker 1: I think something like ten percent of the workforce is

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Speaker 1: in retail in some capacity. Half of them are scared

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Speaker 1: to do their jobs. Why because if some maniac shows

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Speaker 1: up half naked, you know, throwing bottles of yurin around,

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Speaker 1: stealing stuff and threatening to stab somebody, the cops will

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Speaker 1: arrive and say, all right, I will kind of take

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Speaker 1: him out of here, but the D's gonna let him go.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Democrat dystopia. That's the country we live in now.

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Speaker 1: I hope people take it take this into account when

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Speaker 2: Bud.

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Speaker 1: And I want to have a moment here, because I

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Speaker 1: was talking about the historical.

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Speaker 2: Track record of the.

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Speaker 1: Climate apocalypse lunatics over time, certainly over my lifetime, last

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Speaker 1: ten years, last twenty years, last fifty years, And the

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Speaker 1: team pointed out to me that a fantastic analysis of

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Speaker 1: this of the repeated apocalyptic lies from the environmentalist movement

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Speaker 1: comes from none other than Rush Limbaugh. Here he is

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Speaker 1: back in twenty eleven talking about how they just switched

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Speaker 1: from one lie to another to another, and they don't

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Speaker 1: care play it.

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Speaker 7: Back in the seventies eighties, we had to get rid

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Speaker 7: of free on. We had to stop using aerosol spray

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Speaker 7: cans because that was creating the hole in the ozone folks,

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Speaker 7: it was.

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Speaker 1: The panic over the ozone hole was as big a.

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Speaker 7: Panic as any of you who remember any panic associated

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Speaker 7: with global warming.

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Speaker 2: I mean it was big.

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Speaker 7: They had naps, they had charts, they showed us how

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Speaker 7: big the hole was, and it was going to lead

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Speaker 7: to skin cancers and it was going to lead to

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Speaker 7: global warming. It was going to lead all it was.

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Speaker 7: It was going to be an absolute disaster, and the

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Speaker 7: hole was getting bigger, and they finally found out it

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Speaker 7: was aerosol. So people started making jokes about spraying right

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Speaker 7: guard was causing an ozone hole. Now, of course, back then,

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Speaker 7: I your host as big as skeptic then as now,

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Speaker 7: and I laughed at it. What do you are you

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Speaker 7: really trying to tell us? You really want us to

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Speaker 7: believe that aerosol spray cans are causing a hole in

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Speaker 7: atmospheric ozone? And they were dead serious. They recently measured

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Speaker 7: the ozone holes the same size and it fluctuates, it

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Speaker 7: changes in size year to year. If the measurements are correct,

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Speaker 7: we can basically no longer say we understand how ozone

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Speaker 7: holes come into being. It was the same hoax, the

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Speaker 7: same tactic, the same technique. It was the same.

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Speaker 2: In fact, the New.

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Speaker 7: York Times in January of twenty ten had a story

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Speaker 7: on the ozone hole is mending? That hole the Earth's

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Speaker 7: ozone layer slowly mending, considered a big victory for environmental

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Speaker 7: policy makers, But a new report scientists say there's a downside.

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Speaker 7: The repair make a tribute.

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Speaker 2: To global warming.

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Speaker 7: So a year ago the hole was reducing, but that

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Speaker 7: was causing global warming. Before the ozone hole, it was

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Speaker 7: acid rain, and then it was nuclear winter, and they

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Speaker 7: went from global warming.

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Speaker 2: To compact fluorescent light bulbs.

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Speaker 7: I'm telling you every aspect of it is a lie,

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Speaker 7: every environmental claim, everyone that's apocalyptic, it's a lie, full fledged,

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Speaker 7: one hundred percent through and through.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely true.

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Speaker 1: And we know that what Rush said is absolutely true

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Speaker 1: because where's the apocalypse never happens. Eventually they have to

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Speaker 1: walk some of this stuff back. They'll say, oh, it's

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Speaker 1: not really the ozone, but it's really CO two, and

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Speaker 1: then they just switch to the next one. Largely because

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Speaker 1: these are people. If you're looking for people who can

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Speaker 1: be easily brainwashed, and this actually comes from the literature

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Speaker 1: on totalitarian states and brainwashing, you have to find someone

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Speaker 1: who is, as Hannah Arrent called them, an adamized subject.

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Speaker 1: So a person who feels disconnected doesn't mean they're alone,

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Speaker 1: doesn't mean they live in a cabin by themselves way

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Speaker 1: out in the woods. It just means they feel discnnected

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Speaker 1: from a society around them and then lack purpose and

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Speaker 1: meaning in their day to day. People who lack purpose

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Speaker 1: and meaning are easy to pick off for propagandists, and

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Speaker 1: that is what and demagogues and totalitarians, and this is

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Speaker 1: why you see within the leftist movement, the environmentalist climate

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Speaker 1: change wackos, same people that were masking alone in car

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Speaker 1: same people who say men can get pregnant. It's all

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Speaker 1: because they are susceptible, their psychology, their emotional state, they

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Speaker 1: are susceptible to these kinds of extreme and dishonest messages.

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Speaker 2: We got some.

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Speaker 1: Calls in let's see we let's get to a Debbie

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Speaker 1: in another lot of North Carolina. Love on the shop.

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Speaker 1: I'm just that's what's call it in Debbia, North Carolina.

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Speaker 2: What's going on?

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Speaker 8: Hi, Buck, thank you so much for filling such an

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Speaker 8: enormous hole left by Rush Limbaugh. To get to the point,

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Speaker 8: there is a town in North Carolina called Canton, and

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Speaker 8: today the people who work at the paper mill are

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Speaker 8: losing their jobs because the factory is closing. That's the

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Speaker 8: reason Donald Trump walked down that escalator. That's the reason

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Speaker 8: that he became our president, because he cared about the

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Speaker 8: regular people of the men and women and children of America.

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Speaker 8: You know, he would have been he was a great

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Speaker 8: president to me. I mean, he accomplished so many things.

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Speaker 8: He would have even been greater had those investigation, all

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Speaker 8: of those investigations never come to fruition. And my question

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Speaker 8: is as far as Mike Pence and Ron DeSantis. Once

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Speaker 8: all of those investigations were proven wrong, bogut, where were

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Speaker 8: they in support of him? They weren't. None of them

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Speaker 8: came out in support of Donald Trump afterwards, and I

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Speaker 8: just I have no respect for that, you know, I

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Speaker 8: just don't.

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Speaker 1: Debbie, thank you for calling in. Well, look, we may

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Speaker 1: have since you bring that up, we're hoping we may

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Speaker 1: actually get Mike Pence on the show tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: So here's what I'll say to all of you.

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Speaker 1: Send me go to clayanbuck dot com, become a VIP,

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Speaker 1: of questions from the audience for Pence. You can also

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Speaker 1: send me your thoughts on Twitter at buck Sexton. It's

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Speaker 1: not confirmed yet, but we're trying to get Pence for tomorrow,

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Speaker 1: so now's a good time. If you have thoughts or

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Speaker 1: questions or anything, send them my way, send them to

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Speaker 1: the team.

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Speaker 2: I'll be back with you tomorrow. Talk to you then.