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Speaker 1: Welcome back to another edition of Big Blue Kick Golf

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Speaker 1: Live right here on Giants dot Com. I'm Schmolke, He's

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Speaker 1: the Tino, and you're on the phones at two oh

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Speaker 1: on Twitter. UM. I was with you on Friday with

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Speaker 1: Jeff Fiegel's breaking down the Giants game against the Browns. Uh.

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Speaker 1: I'll get Paul's take on that before we take your calls. UM,

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Speaker 1: we've had practice the last couple of days. On Sunday,

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Speaker 1: the Giants first practice after the game against the Browns

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Speaker 1: wasn't full pads and nice action on that day. Today,

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Speaker 1: they took the pads off a little bit, gave the

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Speaker 1: guys a little bit of a physical break in anticipation

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Speaker 1: of their two UH day games practices rather coming up

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Speaker 1: against the Detroit Lions in Detroit, which I'm sure will

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Speaker 1: be the most physical practices we'll see over the course

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Speaker 1: of the summer. So that's kind of where we are.

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Speaker 1: Shorter practice today, Paul will start here. I guess not

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Speaker 1: a whole lot that went on during that practice. Eli

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Speaker 1: Manning Um getting a second straight day where he was

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Speaker 1: kind of backed off a little bit on his rep

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Speaker 1: so both Davis Webb and this practice, Kyle Aletta got

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Speaker 1: some chances to go with the ones as well for

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Speaker 1: one period, and some more snapp for Alex Tanny as well.

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Speaker 1: So Um, a couple of nice passes down the field

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Speaker 1: on Barkley quote a deep one. I thought the best

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Speaker 1: passive practice was Lett his little drop in the bucket

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Speaker 1: to uh Calif Raymond on the left side sideline on

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Speaker 1: a deep pass um Davis Webb um was literally consistent

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Speaker 1: but he had three rockets to Odell Beckham Jr. Over

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Speaker 1: the course of practice that were nice passes. But I

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Speaker 1: still think some of the accuracies with him kind of

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Speaker 1: gonna say ho home practice, but without pads on you

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Speaker 1: only get so much very true. They were inside of

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Speaker 1: course because of the rain that that too. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's been raining all day here in the meadowlands. At

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Speaker 1: least is not as bad as was on Saturday. On

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Speaker 1: Saturday it was season and that was that was really bad. Um. Yeah, John,

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Speaker 1: you know, I think all three backup quarterbacks who got

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Speaker 1: extensive action today all had some really nice throws. Tanny

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Speaker 1: He also had one to Jehal Davis also as well.

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Speaker 1: I thought it was a really nice deep sideline ball. Uh.

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Speaker 1: Just mentioning those two because you know, we don't want

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Speaker 1: of really good ones. Alonzo Russell had another deep passed

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Speaker 1: Webb had two that I really liked. I know you

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Speaker 1: said he had Beckham three times, That's true. Two of

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Speaker 1: them I loved. In the red zone. Yes, yes, he

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Speaker 1: had a fade to Beckham in the red zone left corner.

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Speaker 1: Couldn't have been placed any better. A little bit of

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Speaker 1: Norris Jenkins on that by the last great throw. And

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Speaker 1: then he had a dart, an absolute dart back corner,

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Speaker 1: Beckham was kind of crossing across the back of the

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Speaker 1: he got his feet in bounds. And and those two

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Speaker 1: And you know, unfortunately, I think later on a practice

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Speaker 1: the press conference that he sarcastically said, you know, Eli

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Speaker 1: wonder if they really want to get Web and low

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Speaker 1: both Loletta and Web with the first team at some

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Speaker 1: And by the way, folks. We have some open lines

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Speaker 1: at two, five, one, three if you want to get in.

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Speaker 1: It's a great time. It's the only show I'm hosting

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Speaker 1: this week. Let's talk about these practices against Detroit, because

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Speaker 1: or Eli have never been able to consistently connect back.

430
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Speaker 1: And it's really odd because he could do everything. They

431
00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:16,359
Speaker 1: could do everything. That's the one thing I have. I'm

432
00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:18,960
Speaker 1: not saying he can't do it. It's not as clean

433
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Speaker 1: as it should be. And Eli haven't figured that out yet,

434
00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:22,760
Speaker 1: the timing. And you know that's one thing we haven't

435
00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:25,120
Speaker 1: seen him practice at a time. Have you seen many

436
00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:30,240
Speaker 1: back throws throws a practice. My suspicion is because you

437
00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:33,560
Speaker 1: want O'Dell on the move when he catches the ball,

438
00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:36,880
Speaker 1: because that's where he becomes more dangerous. And generally back

439
00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:40,520
Speaker 1: throws are not you're not getting one. That's a good point.

440
00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:44,919
Speaker 1: And and O'Dell's most explosive stuff comes in yack. And

441
00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:47,880
Speaker 1: I will say this to the best receivers for back

442
00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:50,440
Speaker 1: shoulder throws are generally the larger frame once that you

443
00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:52,200
Speaker 1: can get the ball up and away from the body,

444
00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:56,439
Speaker 1: and the giants, except from Markus fund Alonzo Russell, they

445
00:21:56,520 --> 00:21:59,720
Speaker 1: really don't have those big frame A little bit, a

446
00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:04,479
Speaker 1: little are a little size size. But you know, I again,

447
00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:08,119
Speaker 1: I would mind seeing O'Dell perfect that part of his game,

448
00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:11,320
Speaker 1: but that's not where his most dangerous weaponry is going.

449
00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:14,440
Speaker 1: Lie Scott in New Mexico, he's up next line three, Dave,

450
00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:17,399
Speaker 1: what's going on? Scott? How are you? My guys? How

451
00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:21,480
Speaker 1: are you doing? Uh? First, I had to before I

452
00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:23,640
Speaker 1: get into a couple of topics. I wanted to find

453
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Speaker 1: out how c. Colon Barkley was doing to understand he

454
00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:29,199
Speaker 1: may have tweeked his leg in Sunday's practice. Now you

455
00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:31,359
Speaker 1: know what they had him. They had him Sunday, No

456
00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:35,000
Speaker 1: its today, Dan Duggan asked. Honestly, Dan Dugan asked the

457
00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:37,439
Speaker 1: question to Sherman. He caught a deep pass down the cylon,

458
00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:39,080
Speaker 1: and I guess Dan saw he had to kind of

459
00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:41,720
Speaker 1: wrap on his leg after practice at Shermery didn't have

460
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Speaker 1: any information on it. So honestly, we don't either. Um,

461
00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:46,440
Speaker 1: we'll know more when we get to Detroit to CEV

462
00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:50,120
Speaker 1: practices tomorrow. But I don't think it's anything serious if

463
00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:52,320
Speaker 1: you were standing out there in the practice field. So honestly,

464
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Speaker 1: I wish I had been information for you, Scott, I

465
00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:58,080
Speaker 1: don't I would say this. After the long pass, the

466
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Speaker 1: trainers came over to check him okay, He seemed okay,

467
00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:03,800
Speaker 1: He got up, he walked around, he went back with

468
00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:06,800
Speaker 1: his teammates. The trainers left him by himself. He walked

469
00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:08,200
Speaker 1: off with the rest of the team. He didn't play

470
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Speaker 1: another snap after that though, right it was late in practice,

471
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Speaker 1: so I don't know if he was due to take

472
00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:15,040
Speaker 1: any more snap. I don't know either, And the only

473
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Speaker 1: thing I will say it looked like he did have

474
00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:21,040
Speaker 1: They did put a a rap cloth around his left

475
00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:25,120
Speaker 1: thigh exactly exactly. But I even see that. But I

476
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Speaker 1: but I did not see any hint of a limp

477
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Speaker 1: at all. He looked fine, and coach Hermer said that

478
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Speaker 1: he was unaware of any injury. So yeah, I just

479
00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:38,399
Speaker 1: I had my heart in my mouth when I heard

480
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Speaker 1: about it. So I was as curious how how he

481
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Speaker 1: was doing. Yeah, I understand. I had a couple of questions. Uh. First,

482
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Speaker 1: with the center position. I saw Halipo was performance and

483
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Speaker 1: I saw Brett Jones performance, and I was wondering if

484
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Speaker 1: Pat Treman might switch the center position for this game

485
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Speaker 1: coming up, only because Football Focus had Brett Jones listed

486
00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:05,560
Speaker 1: as the second best pass blocker I think in the

487
00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:09,959
Speaker 1: league last year. And also the difference in size is

488
00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:14,080
Speaker 1: not that great unless Halapino is doing planomenally well in practice,

489
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Speaker 1: because I think Helipeo's six three and pre fifteen and

490
00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:21,159
Speaker 1: Bret Jones is six two and three twelve, And I

491
00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:25,040
Speaker 1: thought Gret Jones had a good game on against Scott Cleveland. Scott,

492
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest with you, I didn't realize that's

493
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Speaker 1: what he's listed at. If Brett Jones is six two

494
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Speaker 1: on six three and I'm six, giving him a little

495
00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:37,360
Speaker 1: bit of extra right there. Yeah, trust me, they're giving

496
00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:40,320
Speaker 1: him a little bit of extra there. I will say this,

497
00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:43,040
Speaker 1: don't count Brett Jones out of this competition at all.

498
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Speaker 1: I wouldn't remember in the NFL he has taken many, many, many,

499
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Speaker 1: many many many more snaps at center than John has,

500
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Speaker 1: which means that John John Halapio not John Schmelk by

501
00:24:56,640 --> 00:25:00,520
Speaker 1: the way, correct, which well, if if it a Smelk

502
00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:04,320
Speaker 1: against Jones, I don't think there'd be much competition. But

503
00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:07,439
Speaker 1: but here's the deal with Hallapeo. He needs to get

504
00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:10,199
Speaker 1: at least as many reps as Jones if he's going

505
00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:12,360
Speaker 1: to have a fair shot in the tug of war.

506
00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:15,639
Speaker 1: He has to because they don't have as much evidence

507
00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:19,320
Speaker 1: to look at. So he's being given a chance to

508
00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:23,080
Speaker 1: fight this battle. But I still think it's fifty fifty.

509
00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:27,040
Speaker 1: And you know, after week one, I actually think Jones

510
00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:28,560
Speaker 1: had a little bit of a better game Scot. The

511
00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:30,600
Speaker 1: way I look at it, I think, at least as

512
00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:31,960
Speaker 1: how I see it, I'm not sure if the coaches

513
00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:34,919
Speaker 1: see it the same way. If you want the guy

514
00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:38,440
Speaker 1: that's probably gonna make fewer mistakes, I would think that's

515
00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:41,360
Speaker 1: gonna be Brett Jones, um simply because of his experience.

516
00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:43,960
Speaker 1: I know he's such a smart guy that that that's

517
00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:47,320
Speaker 1: very dedicated to his craft. I think Jones might be

518
00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:50,080
Speaker 1: a better pass blocker just because of that. And usually

519
00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:52,800
Speaker 1: at the center position, if you have issues as a

520
00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:56,359
Speaker 1: pass blocker, it's because of Emmy's Mr. Signmon's and mental errors.

521
00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:58,120
Speaker 1: Is not because of being because you know, the center

522
00:25:58,119 --> 00:25:59,960
Speaker 1: is usually not blocking guy one on one anyway, That

523
00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:02,960
Speaker 1: is not how the position works generally, So I think

524
00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:04,919
Speaker 1: Jones has the advantage there. But I do think they

525
00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:07,399
Speaker 1: like how appeal better with this bigger frame and body

526
00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:09,640
Speaker 1: to move people in the running game. So I think

527
00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:12,280
Speaker 1: that's the balance they're trying to figure out. But I'll

528
00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:16,399
Speaker 1: say this, I think both guys are on the roster um.

529
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Speaker 1: I'd be shocked if either guys let go when final

530
00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:22,440
Speaker 1: cuts happen. Oh no, I think they both drums can

531
00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:26,480
Speaker 1: play guard as well, so going to be there. I

532
00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:29,240
Speaker 1: had just one final question. I wanted to talk about

533
00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:32,240
Speaker 1: two players that played in the game against Cleveland. I

534
00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:33,959
Speaker 1: thought played pretty well and I wanted to know what

535
00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:36,320
Speaker 1: your chances were that they might make the roster. When

536
00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:39,639
Speaker 1: was Ray Ray Armstrong the linebacker and the other was

537
00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:42,280
Speaker 1: orient Forrester and I can take your answers off your

538
00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:46,680
Speaker 1: Guysryan Steward you mean Steward. I'm sorry, Yeah, that's no problem.

539
00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:48,879
Speaker 1: Um yeah you got you got the Arian Forster thing

540
00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:52,560
Speaker 1: going there. Uh. Oryan Steward made one really good play

541
00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:54,520
Speaker 1: and then he made one poor play. His one really

542
00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:56,680
Speaker 1: good play was when he came up on that out

543
00:26:56,760 --> 00:26:58,240
Speaker 1: route and he kind of knocked the ball out of

544
00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:00,240
Speaker 1: the receiver's hands after he got his two hands on it.

545
00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:04,000
Speaker 1: The really bad play was what on the slant route

546
00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:07,040
Speaker 1: to Antonio Callaway where he beat Leonard Johnson and Letar Johnson.

547
00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:10,399
Speaker 1: I called for defensive holding. Stewart's sitting there ready to

548
00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:12,200
Speaker 1: make a tackle on a slant that he has to

549
00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:14,440
Speaker 1: make if you're a safety in the NFL, and he

550
00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:17,880
Speaker 1: missed the tackle he did. Um, so that's one play

551
00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:22,000
Speaker 1: each way. Yep. And quite frankly, even though last week

552
00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:25,040
Speaker 1: he had a couple of nice days at practice. Uh,

553
00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:28,440
Speaker 1: we all know the games will count heavier than the

554
00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:32,200
Speaker 1: practices will. Where you can't tap, I can't stress us enough.

555
00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:35,920
Speaker 1: You're not tackling in practice. If you're a safety and

556
00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:38,959
Speaker 1: you can't tackle, you can't play. You have to make

557
00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:40,840
Speaker 1: a tackle in the game because that's the only chance

558
00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:43,480
Speaker 1: you're gonna get well. And you're often the last line

559
00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:46,080
Speaker 1: of defense, whether it's a running back in the open

560
00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:48,760
Speaker 1: field or a receiver after he catches the ball. If

561
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Speaker 1: you're the free safety and you missed the tackle, it's

562
00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:57,200
Speaker 1: a touchdown. Touchdown. I'm with you. Go ask the Vikings

563
00:27:57,240 --> 00:27:59,200
Speaker 1: how important it is for a safety. Go ask the

564
00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:01,200
Speaker 1: Saints rather how warnted this for safety to make a

565
00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:03,640
Speaker 1: tackle on the open field. Totally understand. I'm not gonna

566
00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:07,760
Speaker 1: dispute that at all. I'm not expecting to two oh

567
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Speaker 1: one nine three nine four five one three two one

568
00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:13,320
Speaker 1: five one three. He and one of the questions, what

569
00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:18,000
Speaker 1: was the other one? Shoot? He asked about O'Ryan Stewart,

570
00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:22,360
Speaker 1: And this other question was about very very armstrong. Um, Yes,

571
00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:25,320
Speaker 1: here's a question for you. I had a couple of

572
00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:30,800
Speaker 1: nice plays. Well, here's a question for you. There's almost

573
00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:34,240
Speaker 1: two distinct linebacker positions. Now you have the edge rushers,

574
00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:35,520
Speaker 1: then you have the guys in the middle that play

575
00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:37,639
Speaker 1: off the ball. All right, we know goods in an

576
00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:40,840
Speaker 1: ogle tree are in right. Um. Today Coach Herman had

577
00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:42,160
Speaker 1: a lot of good things to say about Mark Cars,

578
00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:49,200
Speaker 1: like how many backup inside linebackers. Does there have to

579
00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:55,880
Speaker 1: be on this roster no more than two? Well? Do

580
00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:57,880
Speaker 1: you have to have two? Though? Could you get away

581
00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:03,200
Speaker 1: with one? Depends depends on if you believe that, uh,

582
00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:09,080
Speaker 1: in a pinch, somebody could move right now? I mean,

583
00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:11,440
Speaker 1: do you do you believe Connor Barwin could go inside

584
00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:12,840
Speaker 1: and play some reps for you if you need it.

585
00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:15,400
Speaker 1: Do you believe Lorenzo Carter could go inside and play

586
00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:17,640
Speaker 1: some reps for you if you need it? He's a

587
00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:19,600
Speaker 1: rookie and they haven't asked him to do it once

588
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:23,760
Speaker 1: based on what he did in college. Maybe, but they

589
00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:26,120
Speaker 1: haven't asked him to do anything close to that since

590
00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:29,440
Speaker 1: he's been here. Okay, So I'm inclined to agree with you,

591
00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:34,520
Speaker 1: which means to me, you might have to keep two.

592
00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:36,800
Speaker 1: And I think if they keep too. I think Ray

593
00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:39,520
Speaker 1: Ray's on the team. What do you think he's in

594
00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:42,440
Speaker 1: the well, he's fighting for for that the second spot.

595
00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:46,239
Speaker 1: I think him hers like Monson, those are the three guys, right,

596
00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:49,320
Speaker 1: you would say, I would think? And what Davis? Tay Davis?

597
00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:51,560
Speaker 1: Would he be the other guy? Some moments of practice

598
00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:54,280
Speaker 1: he's flashed. There were three games to go, but it's

599
00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:55,960
Speaker 1: months in in Davis on the third team, right, and

600
00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:58,160
Speaker 1: it's hers like and Ray Ray on the second team.

601
00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:03,080
Speaker 1: I I like. I like Munson's ability to play on

602
00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:05,480
Speaker 1: special teams and her looks two for that man, and

603
00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:07,720
Speaker 1: her lex ability to play on specials as well. So

604
00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:10,160
Speaker 1: I would have to think one of those two guys

605
00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:13,080
Speaker 1: is probably gonna make it, and then at least one

606
00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:16,080
Speaker 1: other spot. That's how I see it, where he's got

607
00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:18,000
Speaker 1: a shot, and who's on with last week he's got

608
00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:19,960
Speaker 1: a shot? I think I was on with David Deal

609
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:21,479
Speaker 1: and he goes very m sure's the guy you want

610
00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:24,480
Speaker 1: to get off the bus first, because he looks impressive,

611
00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:30,200
Speaker 1: very impressive looking fellow. Yes, no question two O five

612
00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:34,880
Speaker 1: on three Maurice is a Montclair Maurice. What's up? How? Hey?

613
00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:38,600
Speaker 1: What's going on? Gentlemen? How are you doing? What's up? But? Hi? Hey, um,

614
00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:41,120
Speaker 1: I'm doing pretty good. Listen. I got a few things

615
00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:42,959
Speaker 1: on my mind, so I'm not gonna waste time. I'm

616
00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:44,880
Speaker 1: gonna get ready to its first. I want to ask you,

617
00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:50,320
Speaker 1: is there any clear cut, um, you know, some time

618
00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:54,360
Speaker 1: of explanation on argent agostive. I'm actually as buying a

619
00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:57,640
Speaker 1: youth fans. So I'm know all about the kids as

620
00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:00,400
Speaker 1: far as him in college, but you know it's condu

621
00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:06,000
Speaker 1: here's what we know, Morris. Here real quick, here's what

622
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:09,080
Speaker 1: we know. He's recovering from a medical condition. Um he

623
00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:12,160
Speaker 1: had you know, corrected whatever he needs to be corrected.

624
00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:16,400
Speaker 1: But there's a long term rehabilitation process now to get

625
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:18,040
Speaker 1: to where he needs to be to be able to

626
00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:19,960
Speaker 1: play in the NFL game. And that's what they're going

627
00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:22,800
Speaker 1: through right now. That's what coach Hermer said the other day.

628
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:25,840
Speaker 1: They asked him for a timetable multiple times and he said,

629
00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:28,600
Speaker 1: there isn't one. It's something you really have to monitor

630
00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:31,440
Speaker 1: as you go to make sure everything is okay. And

631
00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:34,680
Speaker 1: they'll bring him along slowly. It smells an awful lot

632
00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:36,320
Speaker 1: like it's gonna be a right shirt year for him.

633
00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:40,360
Speaker 1: That would be my guests, but they haven't committed to that. Yeah. Yeah,

634
00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:42,680
Speaker 1: we're gonna be very hard for him to make up

635
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:45,760
Speaker 1: all the time he's missed on the field, almost quite frankly,

636
00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:49,240
Speaker 1: almost impossible, if not impossible. He's still in the n

637
00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:52,080
Speaker 1: f I list right he's on the NOLT so and

638
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:56,200
Speaker 1: and here's the problem too. Once once he tries to

639
00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:58,520
Speaker 1: do a practice, then you can't put him back on

640
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:02,800
Speaker 1: the list, right, Yeah, so you're better off. He's the

641
00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:05,560
Speaker 1: guy you could always pop too. Yeah, you're better off

642
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:08,760
Speaker 1: just saying, okay, red shirt for the year. Um. Again,

643
00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:10,480
Speaker 1: I don't know that that's what they're going to do,

644
00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:14,719
Speaker 1: but I'm with john I think it smells that way. Okay,

645
00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:17,440
Speaker 1: So all right, So here's here's the I'm just gonna,

646
00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:20,000
Speaker 1: you know, just ramble off a few of my assessments

647
00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:22,040
Speaker 1: and then you know how I leave you guys with

648
00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:24,600
Speaker 1: like over and under teach you that thinking a little bit.

649
00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:28,480
Speaker 1: So watching the preseason game, UM and my personal pain,

650
00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:30,800
Speaker 1: I think the Giants what I see that they want

651
00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:32,360
Speaker 1: to do. I'm not sure they're going to commit all

652
00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:34,360
Speaker 1: the way to this in the regular season, but I

653
00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:37,360
Speaker 1: think they are. As far as the conduct touches that

654
00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:41,160
Speaker 1: Johnson starts getting. To be honest, I think Wayne Grohman

655
00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:43,840
Speaker 1: has a lot more from you know, obviously it doesn't

656
00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:46,160
Speaker 1: have all the years of tread on his tire. I

657
00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:48,520
Speaker 1: like story, but I want to see him more at

658
00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:51,200
Speaker 1: the situational guy. You know. I don't want to see

659
00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:54,120
Speaker 1: him get in those the majority of those second Um,

660
00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:56,640
Speaker 1: you know, those second touches when Sake Kwan comes out,

661
00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:58,880
Speaker 1: because I really think Golfan has a lot to offer,

662
00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:00,800
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, And I think he really

663
00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:04,560
Speaker 1: has something to prove. Also, watching the defense, you know,

664
00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:06,920
Speaker 1: I think the run defense is fine, but if the Giants,

665
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:08,400
Speaker 1: I feel like if the Giants are in like the

666
00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:11,040
Speaker 1: regular you know, the little base package and the team

667
00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:12,760
Speaker 1: comes out with a play action and they got like

668
00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:15,120
Speaker 1: some steam routes going on, I don't know what linebacker

669
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:18,440
Speaker 1: on that roster is going to be considered our our

670
00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:21,040
Speaker 1: cover lineback. I've seen that sort of. I think that

671
00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:23,440
Speaker 1: sort of was something that to to sort of be

672
00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:27,280
Speaker 1: concerned about. One guy that I'm really rooting for on

673
00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:30,000
Speaker 1: the team is a fellow by the name of b. W. Webb.

674
00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:32,600
Speaker 1: He's a friend of David Colvill, who was actually with

675
00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:35,720
Speaker 1: the Giants never made the fifty three, but um, you know,

676
00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:38,120
Speaker 1: I'm moving to him. He's a uh he's seemed to

677
00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:41,480
Speaker 1: run with the ones that do pretty well, and you know,

678
00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:44,040
Speaker 1: I really was impression of what I've seen. Also, Uh,

679
00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:47,640
Speaker 1: Andrew Adams, I don't think he ever did anything dramatic

680
00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:50,760
Speaker 1: or drastic to really lose the job coming off for

681
00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:52,960
Speaker 1: the two thousand and sixteen season, I think the Giants

682
00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:57,760
Speaker 1: were more um, you know, influenced by taking where they

683
00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:00,800
Speaker 1: took Darian Thompson. That he has ability and he did

684
00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:03,320
Speaker 1: do good things in college. But I'm not gonna say

685
00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:05,240
Speaker 1: I'm done with him, not because of just because he's

686
00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:07,680
Speaker 1: injured right now. He missed a lot of tackles and

687
00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:10,160
Speaker 1: and I really think the Giants really need to give

688
00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:12,440
Speaker 1: Andrew more of a shot. You know, I understand the

689
00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:15,640
Speaker 1: other guys competing, but that spot is just still up

690
00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:17,840
Speaker 1: in the air. And I think, just like you know,

691
00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:20,440
Speaker 1: any other position, whether it's guard next to a center,

692
00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:22,719
Speaker 1: you know, a good safety needs to have someone that

693
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:24,920
Speaker 1: they can you know, build with him, have some you know,

694
00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:27,920
Speaker 1: cohesive miss with on the other side, you know. So

695
00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:31,200
Speaker 1: And as far as my over under, I'm gonna go

696
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:36,040
Speaker 1: with I'm gonna leave you guys with this, Evan Ingram huh.

697
00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:43,440
Speaker 1: Eight hundred sixty five yards over under, and I'll leave

698
00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:47,840
Speaker 1: you guys with yards over under. All right, guys, I

699
00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:50,920
Speaker 1: have a going I'm gonna go under eight hundred sixty

700
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:57,520
Speaker 1: five yards for I'll go under. Also, I think he'll

701
00:34:57,520 --> 00:35:00,520
Speaker 1: be around seven fifty. I was gonna say by seven eight,

702
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:07,120
Speaker 1: that's both under there you go. I'm getting more and

703
00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:11,879
Speaker 1: more confident that Sterling Shepherd will be the second leading

704
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:14,560
Speaker 1: receiver on this team based on what I've seen at practice.

705
00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:18,440
Speaker 1: He has had a terrific You can't off season you

706
00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:20,040
Speaker 1: cover him one on one, He's too quick for you.

707
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:23,640
Speaker 1: It's too quick. Rific off season hasn't anything. He is

708
00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:25,879
Speaker 1: also mentally in a great place. He had a baby

709
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:28,279
Speaker 1: girl on Friday, coradulations and Stirling his wife and his

710
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:31,000
Speaker 1: family by the way, right, the baby girl is doing well. Yes,

711
00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:33,320
Speaker 1: she was born Friday. Everybody's good and he's going to

712
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:35,439
Speaker 1: make the trip to Detroit with the team later on today.

713
00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:37,480
Speaker 1: What was her name again? He gave her name at

714
00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:40,239
Speaker 1: the press. I forget what it was. Was it Clarise, No,

715
00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:44,680
Speaker 1: I forget, I'm sorry, I don't Clay was the middle

716
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:49,880
Speaker 1: name is the same as I don't remember the first name. Sorry? Well, congratulations,

717
00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:52,400
Speaker 1: yes for sure, and and to and and to uh

718
00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:56,360
Speaker 1: young mom. Also, let me just say this, um, he

719
00:35:56,840 --> 00:36:03,160
Speaker 1: clearly clearly had as such a positive outlook on so

720
00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:05,880
Speaker 1: many things, whether it's his life with his young bride

721
00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:11,600
Speaker 1: Callie Clay, the young bride, Uh the young child or

722
00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:15,640
Speaker 1: his career. He is right now probably the most positive

723
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:17,919
Speaker 1: energy I've ever seen coming out of him. And he's

724
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:20,399
Speaker 1: just such a put together guy, like you know, you're

725
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:22,200
Speaker 1: just a good kid, you know you That's the thing.

726
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:24,560
Speaker 1: He doesn't act like a kid though, like you have

727
00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:30,360
Speaker 1: some guys that don't know. But I understand why he

728
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:31,960
Speaker 1: was saying that he's a third year player. He has

729
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:34,800
Speaker 1: a baby face, he looks like a kid, but he

730
00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:38,080
Speaker 1: carries himself like an adult. Like I feel like when

731
00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:44,960
Speaker 1: he's that's a very long list, Paul, that is the

732
00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:48,600
Speaker 1: perhaps the lowest possible bar punted you can get. Um.

733
00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:51,359
Speaker 1: But I don't feel like he's the guy that goes

734
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:54,320
Speaker 1: home and like acts like a teenager. I feel like

735
00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:57,200
Speaker 1: he's very he's a very adult vibe about him, you

736
00:36:57,280 --> 00:37:00,319
Speaker 1: know what I mean. He seems very very mature um.

737
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:03,880
Speaker 1: And to me, I think if you look at the

738
00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:07,200
Speaker 1: way they use Stephen Diggs and they used Adam Theeland

739
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:10,400
Speaker 1: last year with the Vikings, if that doesn't scream Shepherd

740
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:13,879
Speaker 1: and Beckham, I don't. I don't know what does same

741
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:17,320
Speaker 1: type of receivers. I agree, I do think Shepherd and

742
00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:20,359
Speaker 1: he had to some degree a breakout year last year

743
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:22,799
Speaker 1: when he was forced to move up and become more

744
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:24,400
Speaker 1: of the focal point. And of course he got hurt

745
00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:26,120
Speaker 1: at the end of the year and lost some time.

746
00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:27,600
Speaker 1: He got hurt the beginning of the year, remember he

747
00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:29,600
Speaker 1: heard his ankle and in the summer, and that really

748
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:33,640
Speaker 1: derailed the start of his season. He kept reaggravating and

749
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:37,480
Speaker 1: then got hurt again. Yeah, um, I I truly think

750
00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:39,840
Speaker 1: that that he will have his best season yet. I

751
00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:42,359
Speaker 1: really do. I'm with you, and I hope so too,

752
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:44,239
Speaker 1: because I love starting. He's a great, great guy. I

753
00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:47,919
Speaker 1: told my kid again, I'm so old. Go ahead, next

754
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:51,279
Speaker 1: up year old. Um. I will say this, even though

755
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:55,440
Speaker 1: Ingram might not finish with eight hundred yards receiving, his

756
00:37:56,239 --> 00:37:59,600
Speaker 1: ability to win mismatches is going to be so vital

757
00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:02,760
Speaker 1: and he's gonna make some very important catches for the Giants.

758
00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:04,680
Speaker 1: And I would not be surprised if he's their biggest

759
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:07,680
Speaker 1: red zone target as well, going up and getting pastes.

760
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:09,560
Speaker 1: So just because he might not be the second leading

761
00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:11,960
Speaker 1: receiver doesn't mean he's not gonna be a vitally important player.

762
00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:14,880
Speaker 1: I want to make that clear. Who's your leader in

763
00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:17,520
Speaker 1: the clubhouse at second safety he likes Andrew Adams. Where

764
00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:19,759
Speaker 1: are you there? I don't know yet. I gotta be

765
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:21,120
Speaker 1: honest with you. I don't have a leader in the

766
00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:25,560
Speaker 1: clubhouse right now. Um. I think Andrew Adams had a

767
00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:28,279
Speaker 1: very productive game against Cleveland. And you know, Adams was

768
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:31,320
Speaker 1: my prediction before we got here, so I'll stay on that.

769
00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:34,480
Speaker 1: But nothing I've seen has moved me in any direction yet.

770
00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:37,160
Speaker 1: He to me, he moved and knows ahead of the

771
00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:40,160
Speaker 1: rest of the folks. In the Browns game, darry and

772
00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:42,640
Speaker 1: Thompson was my prediction. I kind of thought that he

773
00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:45,640
Speaker 1: would rebound. I have not seen that yet. Of course,

774
00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:48,359
Speaker 1: he was injured. Have they announced what his injury said?

775
00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:51,840
Speaker 1: We've had We've last year, we almost had no hamstrings.

776
00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:53,560
Speaker 1: There's been there's been a few of them this year,

777
00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:56,680
Speaker 1: so that will no doubt. Uh, you know, put a

778
00:38:56,719 --> 00:39:00,120
Speaker 1: little bit of cold ice on his candidacy. Uh. We

779
00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:03,720
Speaker 1: do know that Curtis Riley is back on the practice field,

780
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:06,640
Speaker 1: has been out there for the last two days, so

781
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:08,800
Speaker 1: it looks like he's going to be able to compete

782
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:10,320
Speaker 1: against the Lions. Heck, I thought he was going to

783
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:12,080
Speaker 1: start against Detroit until he found out he was And

784
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:14,279
Speaker 1: I thought he was going to start against Cleveland until

785
00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:16,719
Speaker 1: we found that he was given the rest. I suspect.

786
00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:19,719
Speaker 1: I suspect he will play against Detroit unless there's a

787
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:22,759
Speaker 1: setback this week, So maybe this is his chance to

788
00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:26,279
Speaker 1: nudge himself up. I agree, And again that's a very

789
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:30,520
Speaker 1: important you know, deep center field, you know, range, tackle,

790
00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:35,319
Speaker 1: play the ball, type of position. Third cornerback. He likes B. W. Webb.

791
00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:37,640
Speaker 1: That's who I have has as that's who I have

792
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:40,640
Speaker 1: is my third cornerback at this point as well. How

793
00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:44,960
Speaker 1: about you right now? I would say off of the

794
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:47,720
Speaker 1: last week and a half to two weeks, yes, prior

795
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:51,240
Speaker 1: to that, Donte Dion was the guy for me. But again,

796
00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:55,120
Speaker 1: injury has prevented him for putting his best foot forward

797
00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:59,120
Speaker 1: into competition. And to me, Webb looks like the guy

798
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:01,840
Speaker 1: who was kind of nudged himself a little ahead of

799
00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:04,279
Speaker 1: the rest of the guys. But with three more games

800
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:06,200
Speaker 1: to go, John, I'm not gonna put that in stone. No,

801
00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:09,200
Speaker 1: absolutely no. There's everything's wide open, folks. It's gonna go

802
00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:11,360
Speaker 1: after the Patriot games some of these battles, but just

803
00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:14,200
Speaker 1: be ready for it. May go down to a couple

804
00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:17,200
Speaker 1: of days before opening Day when cuts are announced around

805
00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:19,480
Speaker 1: the league, and they suddenly decide somebody else is on

806
00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:21,359
Speaker 1: the wire that they need to grab, or maybe they'll

807
00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:23,799
Speaker 1: make a waiver trade one of those deals when they

808
00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:26,800
Speaker 1: got caught running backs. He he likes Galman getting the

809
00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:29,640
Speaker 1: secondary Russians instead of Stewart. I don't think that's going

810
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:32,200
Speaker 1: to happen. I also don't think there's gonna be that

811
00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:34,880
Speaker 1: many secondary runs to get. To be quite honest, I

812
00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:37,240
Speaker 1: think Barkley is going to get a majority of the carries,

813
00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:39,520
Speaker 1: and I think the ones he doesn't get will be

814
00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:41,319
Speaker 1: a lot of short yard and stuff, in which case

815
00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:43,600
Speaker 1: will see Stewart and then you'll have maybe they'll you know,

816
00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:45,440
Speaker 1: they'll give a series or two off you or there

817
00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:47,879
Speaker 1: to to let him rest his legs, and I think

818
00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:50,040
Speaker 1: you might see some goalman there. I think I don't

819
00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:52,560
Speaker 1: think they're gonna bury Gallman if he's active on game days.

820
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:56,279
Speaker 1: I think Goldman gets more of the passes out of

821
00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:59,399
Speaker 1: Barkley's playbook and Stewart gets more of the runs out

822
00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:01,720
Speaker 1: of Barkley's playbook. And the fact that they have different

823
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:04,360
Speaker 1: skill sets the point is a good thing for the

824
00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:07,799
Speaker 1: Giants because they contrast and they won't have to worry

825
00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:13,320
Speaker 1: about overlapping. And I mean to me, to me, we

826
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:16,920
Speaker 1: talk about guys having roles. I don't think just because

827
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:19,800
Speaker 1: Goalman and Stewart are backups that they won't have important

828
00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:22,680
Speaker 1: roles on his team. I do think, you know, Barkley

829
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:24,919
Speaker 1: is not gonna play a hundred percent all the time.

830
00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:27,120
Speaker 1: They're gonna be third downs where he's gonna need a blow.

831
00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:28,719
Speaker 1: Goalman's gonna have to go in there and he's gonna

832
00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:30,600
Speaker 1: catch a pass, and there's gonna be sure you ordered

833
00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:33,520
Speaker 1: your goal line situations where you know what, Barkley doesn't

834
00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:36,040
Speaker 1: need to take those heads. Let's Steward power to ball

835
00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:38,080
Speaker 1: into the end zone, all right. Finally, and this is

836
00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:40,600
Speaker 1: Maurice's other point, and he actually made some real I

837
00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:41,840
Speaker 1: think you had a lot of the questions right in

838
00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:43,319
Speaker 1: the head, to be honest. With the really good Ones

839
00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:47,440
Speaker 1: run defense. Um was good on Thursday after. It was

840
00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:49,080
Speaker 1: one of the best parts of the game for the Giants.

841
00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:51,320
Speaker 1: But I think he makes a good point, and I

842
00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:54,120
Speaker 1: think this, when you play the type of defense the

843
00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:56,000
Speaker 1: Giants play, where you often have eight men in the

844
00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:58,440
Speaker 1: box ball with the single high safety, you're gonna be

845
00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:01,160
Speaker 1: good against the run. But when you do that, guess what,

846
00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:03,520
Speaker 1: You've got a lot of man coverage all over the place.

847
00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:07,520
Speaker 1: So how do you think that giants deal with those

848
00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:09,640
Speaker 1: tight ends that are gonna run out the seam and

849
00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:11,520
Speaker 1: do the type of stuff that David and Joko did

850
00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:13,799
Speaker 1: against him on Thursday. Who's gonna be able to cover

851
00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:17,080
Speaker 1: those guys? I I have always felt that Ogiltree had

852
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:20,359
Speaker 1: the ability to compete. Now he got burned in man

853
00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:23,160
Speaker 1: to man coverage the other night. I'm not sure exactly

854
00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:26,160
Speaker 1: how or why that happened, but I do think physically

855
00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:28,840
Speaker 1: he's got a chance to compete against a lot of

856
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:31,840
Speaker 1: the tight ends in this league, the elite guys. You

857
00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:33,680
Speaker 1: know what, You're not gonna be able to do that

858
00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:37,040
Speaker 1: because the elite guys will beat any linebacker in this game.

859
00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:40,000
Speaker 1: It's not a Luke Ki correct and maybe Sean Lee, Yeah,

860
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:43,680
Speaker 1: maybe that's about it. That's about okay. I agree. So,

861
00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:47,000
Speaker 1: so you know, against those elite guys, you're gonna come

862
00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:49,040
Speaker 1: up with another scheme. You're gonna use the safety, You're

863
00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:51,719
Speaker 1: gonna use even possibly a corner parcels us to do

864
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:54,399
Speaker 1: that against Shocky when he was with the Cowboys. Um

865
00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:56,920
Speaker 1: so you don't worry about that because she's like, Okay,

866
00:42:57,120 --> 00:42:59,160
Speaker 1: the elite guys Ogil Tree, you're not doing it against

867
00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:02,480
Speaker 1: them anyway, so don't you buy um. I've always been

868
00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:05,480
Speaker 1: of the opinion because I remember Carl Banks when he

869
00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:10,200
Speaker 1: was here. Karl used to beat the stuffing. Okay, as

870
00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:13,439
Speaker 1: the strong sideline backer, he would beat the stuffing out

871
00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:16,200
Speaker 1: of the receiving type of tight ends at the line

872
00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:19,720
Speaker 1: of scrimmage. So they knew that by the second quarter

873
00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:23,799
Speaker 1: they were going to be in for a long, long day,

874
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:27,360
Speaker 1: and they usually didn't catch too many passes downfield against

875
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:28,840
Speaker 1: Carl backs. And I'll tell you what, though, when you

876
00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:31,759
Speaker 1: play that single lize safety Paul, the seams against it.

877
00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:33,600
Speaker 1: If the Giants play a decent amount of Cover three,

878
00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:35,680
Speaker 1: which had a single higher figure, then play enough of it.

879
00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:39,040
Speaker 1: The seams is what's open. Teams are going to attack

880
00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:40,759
Speaker 1: that area, so the Giants let to figure out a

881
00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:43,239
Speaker 1: way to cover it. Remember the second part to that,

882
00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:45,400
Speaker 1: if you're going to stuff the guy at the line

883
00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:49,080
Speaker 1: and give him a difficult time on his release, that

884
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:51,560
Speaker 1: means your pass rush gets an extra half a second,

885
00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:54,920
Speaker 1: half a second more a second and a half to

886
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:58,160
Speaker 1: get there. Well, now if they don't finish the job.

887
00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:01,120
Speaker 1: What what did Carl Banks had on his defense pass rush?

888
00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:04,239
Speaker 1: So Carl could do that knowing that if he gave

889
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:06,480
Speaker 1: l t Leton, Marshal or George Martin a half a

890
00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:09,000
Speaker 1: second more, then wenna get to the quarterback. You know

891
00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:12,720
Speaker 1: the guy wasn't going to get behind Carl. You're in trouble.

892
00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:16,360
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, So that's what the Giants gonna rely on.

893
00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:20,040
Speaker 1: They're probably gonna rely on play tougher defense at the

894
00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:21,960
Speaker 1: line on the tight end, and then make sure your

895
00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:23,920
Speaker 1: pass rush gets home. That's that's the best way to

896
00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:30,360
Speaker 1: do it. Feeling about this, Hellelujah losing his mind? I

897
00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:32,320
Speaker 1: planned for no reason. I didn't see him on the

898
00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:38,200
Speaker 1: part right. He is there, Okay, hello, Chuckles. He knows

899
00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:42,279
Speaker 1: who my rule is. He knows Hello. I don't know you.

900
00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:44,800
Speaker 1: He knows my rule. We're not to talk about Flowers

901
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:47,279
Speaker 1: until after the four preseason games are over. Okay, what

902
00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:50,359
Speaker 1: do you got Charlie? Hey, John, I had a call

903
00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:51,800
Speaker 1: in because You're not gonna be a round for the

904
00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:53,759
Speaker 1: whole week, and I didn't want to deprive you of

905
00:44:53,880 --> 00:45:01,360
Speaker 1: my call, Chuckles. What I was talking about before my

906
00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:05,520
Speaker 1: phone died? The other day was that and it happened again,

907
00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:07,920
Speaker 1: like I think it was Saturday night. I can't remember

908
00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:10,359
Speaker 1: the two teams, but they scored about seventy or eighty

909
00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:14,680
Speaker 1: points a piece, I mean together, and all these all

910
00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:17,719
Speaker 1: these teams are just the third fourth quarterbacks. They're all

911
00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:20,440
Speaker 1: lightening it up, and we can't score for more than

912
00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:22,719
Speaker 1: ten points. I know it was the first game, but

913
00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:25,440
Speaker 1: that's been our m all for the last two or

914
00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:28,880
Speaker 1: three years. We can't score, and I just don't understand

915
00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:35,000
Speaker 1: why we can't score. And I just hope against Detroit

916
00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:41,080
Speaker 1: this offense finally wakes up and scored some point Toorally.

917
00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:42,920
Speaker 1: I mean, I can tell you why the Giants did

918
00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:44,879
Speaker 1: score a lot of points in the second and third quarter.

919
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:47,840
Speaker 1: I mean they there were receivers that were open and

920
00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:52,480
Speaker 1: the passes weren't completed. I mean it was pretty obvious, right. Yeah, Well,

921
00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:55,719
Speaker 1: I'll come all these other teams of third fourth quarterbacks

922
00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:57,799
Speaker 1: on the depth chart to lighten it up. Because they

923
00:45:57,840 --> 00:46:02,719
Speaker 1: played better. The better players I said, they played better.

924
00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:04,520
Speaker 1: I don't know if they're better players yet. I need

925
00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:07,200
Speaker 1: a couple more games to make that to to make

926
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:11,840
Speaker 1: an analysis. Hey, I think, um, you know McIntosh should

927
00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:15,160
Speaker 1: hang out with Mr Illness Thomas because he knows the

928
00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:17,800
Speaker 1: ropes and uh he will help him, you know, on

929
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:24,480
Speaker 1: the sideline because where his helmet. I'm gonna stop you here. Okay,

930
00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:28,040
Speaker 1: I'm gonna put another rule on you now, Rule number two.

931
00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:31,759
Speaker 1: Don't do that to Robert Thomas. Because Robert Thomas this

932
00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:35,400
Speaker 1: whole season, since the training of the preseason, uh not

933
00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:38,200
Speaker 1: the preseason, but the workouts started to watch, he has

934
00:46:38,239 --> 00:46:42,040
Speaker 1: participated in everything and by the way, and by the way,

935
00:46:42,120 --> 00:46:44,919
Speaker 1: so do not call him Mr Illness anymore. That is done.

936
00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:48,359
Speaker 1: That is over. And may I add he played very

937
00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:51,480
Speaker 1: well in his snaps behind snacks the other night. He

938
00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:54,400
Speaker 1: was one of the primary reasons they were tough inside

939
00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:59,680
Speaker 1: the tackles and he added a sack. Hey, all right, look,

940
00:46:59,840 --> 00:47:05,240
Speaker 1: I'll passed the torks to Macintosh. Now, okay, so every

941
00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:09,680
Speaker 1: year next Mr ill if he really needs to do that,

942
00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:12,680
Speaker 1: I have Charlie. The bottom line is Thomas doesn't deserve

943
00:47:12,719 --> 00:47:15,799
Speaker 1: the tag anymore. All right, Well, that's what I'm saying.

944
00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:18,279
Speaker 1: That's why he shouldn't hang out with mac and talks

945
00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:20,520
Speaker 1: to hang out with him and you know, and get

946
00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:23,600
Speaker 1: some inspiration of how he overcame his illness and how

947
00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:27,320
Speaker 1: he's playing. So so what what what? What's your actual

948
00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:31,600
Speaker 1: football point? My pointball point is? All I'm hoping is

949
00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:38,360
Speaker 1: is that we you know, we actually score some points. Finally,

950
00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:41,080
Speaker 1: you know, we need to score some points. And well,

951
00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:43,359
Speaker 1: the other thing I was gonna say, we just had

952
00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:45,640
Speaker 1: a preseason game, and I know you guys are talking

953
00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:48,719
Speaker 1: about the Detroit practices and when we were able to

954
00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:52,200
Speaker 1: you know, see better when they're playing one on ones

955
00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:54,960
Speaker 1: with the other team. But we've already able, We already

956
00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:58,239
Speaker 1: saw with something most of these guys could do against Queensland. Right,

957
00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:01,920
Speaker 1: So do you know I mean to me, you've got

958
00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:04,320
Speaker 1: three more preseason games. Do you really have to have

959
00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:08,359
Speaker 1: joint practices? Yeah, because it's the more, the more reps

960
00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:10,640
Speaker 1: and the more evaluation you can get, the better. I mean,

961
00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:14,399
Speaker 1: you're looking at each group over the course of that game.

962
00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:17,360
Speaker 1: Got any more from snaps, You're gonna get twice that

963
00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:21,000
Speaker 1: in one practice. See. So, um, the more you can

964
00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:23,920
Speaker 1: get to evaluate, the better. The more chances you give

965
00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:26,480
Speaker 1: the younger players on this team to improve, the better.

966
00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:30,120
Speaker 1: And how can it hurt. I'm gonna second everything John said.

967
00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:32,000
Speaker 1: And on top of that, I want to refer to

968
00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:34,760
Speaker 1: something he said earlier in the program. You can tackle

969
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:37,640
Speaker 1: in a preseason game, and you can't tackle in practice.

970
00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:40,480
Speaker 1: And there's nothing worse than seeing a guy who's a

971
00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:43,680
Speaker 1: good practice player who gets into a preseason game and

972
00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:46,759
Speaker 1: then doesn't make tackles. How else are you gonna find

973
00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:49,719
Speaker 1: out about that if you're not either playing a preseason

974
00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:52,000
Speaker 1: game or at least going up against the other the

975
00:48:52,080 --> 00:48:55,680
Speaker 1: other teams in these practice sessions, which there's gonna be hitting,

976
00:48:56,200 --> 00:48:59,000
Speaker 1: I believe if I got it right, no tackling, no tackling,

977
00:48:59,120 --> 00:49:02,759
Speaker 1: but they'll be hit on Tuesday and Wednesday two thirds

978
00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:05,640
Speaker 1: what they call thud, Yeah, and to thirds speed on

979
00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:09,680
Speaker 1: on Thursday. So you need to get the full gamut,

980
00:49:09,719 --> 00:49:12,600
Speaker 1: get as much info as you can before you cut

981
00:49:12,680 --> 00:49:16,480
Speaker 1: the fifty three. No, okay, I agree on that. And

982
00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:19,640
Speaker 1: John you're gonna be there, and Paul you're going there.

983
00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:23,839
Speaker 1: So keep an eye out on on Rick Wagner. See

984
00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:28,200
Speaker 1: see how well he plays. Okay, he on our team.

985
00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:32,640
Speaker 1: He will, he will play excellent football for the Detroit Lions.

986
00:49:33,640 --> 00:49:35,840
Speaker 1: We'll watch him. We'll be there, we'll watch him. But

987
00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:37,600
Speaker 1: he's not I don't think they're getting rid of him,

988
00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:40,720
Speaker 1: just just an opinion, I'd be surprised they just signed

989
00:49:40,719 --> 00:49:44,880
Speaker 1: a Crosby. Crosby is gonna be they love Crosby as

990
00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:47,439
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna go with Crosby and he's gonna

991
00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:52,239
Speaker 1: be expendable. But I think char go ahead, say you

992
00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:57,920
Speaker 1: imagine this. If if Ricky Wagner is any good, then

993
00:49:58,000 --> 00:50:01,880
Speaker 1: that means the Lions will have have three competent offensive tackles.

994
00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:05,200
Speaker 1: And what NFL team would not want three competent offensive

995
00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:09,279
Speaker 1: tackles on their team. I'm just saying, we just lost

996
00:50:09,320 --> 00:50:10,680
Speaker 1: Pete in Florida. Pete, if you want to give us

997
00:50:10,680 --> 00:50:15,279
Speaker 1: a call back, that's okay. All right, Let's let's get

998
00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:18,879
Speaker 1: specific here, and you tell me, Paul, you're not gonna

999
00:50:18,920 --> 00:50:22,080
Speaker 1: be there to watch up close? What position groups or

1000
00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:26,520
Speaker 1: players do you want me to watch most closely when

1001
00:50:26,560 --> 00:50:29,719
Speaker 1: I'm in Detroit at practice. Well in my list. So

1002
00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:32,800
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have you on I'll be here on Tuesday

1003
00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:35,080
Speaker 1: and Wednesday, will have you on the phone, so you'd

1004
00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:38,360
Speaker 1: be prepared for me to pepper you about the trenches.

1005
00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:41,160
Speaker 1: You know that's where I'm going. I'm gonna pepper you

1006
00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:44,320
Speaker 1: about the trenches. Now here's the thing. Uh, deal is

1007
00:50:44,320 --> 00:50:46,279
Speaker 1: gonna watch the trenches though, right, you're gonna watch seven

1008
00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:49,200
Speaker 1: on seven's. Well, remember we're gonna have two of those

1009
00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:54,040
Speaker 1: going on the deal watching giants question. Yeah, we were

1010
00:50:54,040 --> 00:50:56,640
Speaker 1: talking about that before. See to me, here he's got

1011
00:50:56,760 --> 00:50:59,800
Speaker 1: to watch he's gotta watch Giants oldline Here's and this

1012
00:50:59,920 --> 00:51:01,239
Speaker 1: is the one I want to say. But I'm still

1013
00:51:01,239 --> 00:51:04,160
Speaker 1: gonna ask you about the trenches. I think I agree.

1014
00:51:04,560 --> 00:51:06,279
Speaker 1: To me, the most important things that I want to

1015
00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:08,719
Speaker 1: watch are the following, um one, are the things that

1016
00:51:08,760 --> 00:51:10,919
Speaker 1: I generally have questions about on this team. I still

1017
00:51:10,960 --> 00:51:12,680
Speaker 1: have some questions about how good the offensive line is

1018
00:51:12,680 --> 00:51:14,520
Speaker 1: gonna be, so I want to watch that. I stole

1019
00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:16,600
Speaker 1: questions about whether or not I feel pretty good about

1020
00:51:16,600 --> 00:51:18,600
Speaker 1: this team stopping to run. I'm not sure how what

1021
00:51:18,600 --> 00:51:20,520
Speaker 1: they're gonna rush the pastor consistently. I want to see

1022
00:51:20,520 --> 00:51:22,799
Speaker 1: how they rushed the pastor against two good left two

1023
00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:28,320
Speaker 1: good tackles and Ricky Wagner and um Tarlo Okay, no,

1024
00:51:28,520 --> 00:51:33,200
Speaker 1: not the data the one they have Decker tailor Decker Sorry, Um,

1025
00:51:34,600 --> 00:51:36,960
Speaker 1: they're also a frank right now, a second round pick

1026
00:51:37,120 --> 00:51:39,640
Speaker 1: or first round pick rather playing for them. T J.

1027
00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:41,640
Speaker 1: Lang another good guard in this league playing the other

1028
00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:43,719
Speaker 1: guarden spot for them so they have a good offensive one.

1029
00:51:43,719 --> 00:51:45,439
Speaker 1: I want to see how the Giants rush against those guys.

1030
00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:49,640
Speaker 1: I want to see how the Giants secondary recovers against

1031
00:51:49,719 --> 00:51:52,800
Speaker 1: a pretty good wide receiver corps Um. You know the

1032
00:51:52,880 --> 00:51:55,600
Speaker 1: trouble with that Golden Taken play. Marvin Jones could play

1033
00:51:55,640 --> 00:51:57,920
Speaker 1: Kenny doubt Dowity can play. Here's the problem with that. Though,

1034
00:51:57,920 --> 00:52:00,319
Speaker 1: they don't gain plan for it. No, it. I still

1035
00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:02,479
Speaker 1: want to see. Look, they're gonna put Golden Tate and slot.

1036
00:52:02,719 --> 00:52:06,200
Speaker 1: I want to see the Giants trying to cover Golden Tate. Yeah,

1037
00:52:06,239 --> 00:52:08,320
Speaker 1: but you know what a lot of a lot of

1038
00:52:08,560 --> 00:52:12,839
Speaker 1: coverage has to do specifically with game planning when you're

1039
00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:15,320
Speaker 1: one on one though, if you're doing one on one drills,

1040
00:52:15,480 --> 00:52:17,960
Speaker 1: I just want to see if the John's dvs can

1041
00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:19,920
Speaker 1: physically stay with the receivers of the line. All right,

1042
00:52:19,960 --> 00:52:22,560
Speaker 1: that's fair enough. That's fair enough, and that that will

1043
00:52:22,560 --> 00:52:24,839
Speaker 1: be more important in the one on one drills than

1044
00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:29,680
Speaker 1: it will be in the preseason game. Yes. So, so

1045
00:52:29,800 --> 00:52:33,560
Speaker 1: those are the three main things that I'm gonna watch.

1046
00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:36,920
Speaker 1: I want me to add anything to that list for

1047
00:52:37,040 --> 00:52:43,120
Speaker 1: your sake, now, you know what, Um, I'm curious to

1048
00:52:43,160 --> 00:52:45,920
Speaker 1: see if Mike Jones gets a chance at returning any kicks.

1049
00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:49,040
Speaker 1: He's a big punk guy and North I wrote this

1050
00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:52,040
Speaker 1: on my Twitter the other day, North Carolina essential this

1051
00:52:52,280 --> 00:52:56,040
Speaker 1: dude in thirty one career punt returns average twenty one

1052
00:52:56,200 --> 00:53:01,319
Speaker 1: yards per part returns. Pretty good. That's insane kickoff return number.

1053
00:53:01,400 --> 00:53:04,440
Speaker 1: Shonahara pointed out today, he's very impressed with Mike jones calfs.

1054
00:53:05,120 --> 00:53:08,160
Speaker 1: It could be a calf model because I get you excited. No,

1055
00:53:11,640 --> 00:53:15,560
Speaker 1: I'm excited about twenty one yards perpunt return though over

1056
00:53:15,719 --> 00:53:19,360
Speaker 1: thirty one points. Now, that's not a small samples is

1057
00:53:19,400 --> 00:53:24,920
Speaker 1: a big sample side one yards perpunt return, you know what,

1058
00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:28,040
Speaker 1: just for the heck of it, I'd like that. I

1059
00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:29,799
Speaker 1: don't I don't know what their plans are for him.

1060
00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:32,799
Speaker 1: I really don't, and he's going they just signed, right,

1061
00:53:33,200 --> 00:53:34,640
Speaker 1: I don't know what their plans are for him, because

1062
00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:37,600
Speaker 1: he's he's a dB by trade, yes, but you know what,

1063
00:53:38,840 --> 00:53:41,240
Speaker 1: just let him return. Let me see what this is about,

1064
00:53:41,400 --> 00:53:44,560
Speaker 1: let me see how he got that, because that's freaking crazy.

1065
00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:47,719
Speaker 1: One yards of return. I'd like to see him back there,

1066
00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:49,840
Speaker 1: just taking a shot. Just let him, give him a

1067
00:53:49,880 --> 00:53:53,080
Speaker 1: few let's see what he does. You never know, and

1068
00:53:53,160 --> 00:53:56,279
Speaker 1: if he's any good the room a game, all right.

1069
00:53:56,480 --> 00:53:59,440
Speaker 1: We all hope there's not any sort of altercation or scuffle. Correct,

1070
00:53:59,719 --> 00:54:01,359
Speaker 1: If there is, who's the most likely guy to get

1071
00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:06,040
Speaker 1: into it? The Giants? Uh, I have two suspects. The

1072
00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:08,480
Speaker 1: Giants have a couple of feisty guys in the trenches

1073
00:54:08,560 --> 00:54:11,720
Speaker 1: and snacks Harrison and and Uh and Will Hernandez should

1074
00:54:11,719 --> 00:54:13,560
Speaker 1: be the top of the list. So you would think that,

1075
00:54:13,640 --> 00:54:16,040
Speaker 1: based on what we've seen during the all season program

1076
00:54:16,239 --> 00:54:19,200
Speaker 1: and the camps, that those two guys are the most

1077
00:54:19,440 --> 00:54:24,040
Speaker 1: likely to be UH to be involved in some abrasive activity.

1078
00:54:24,800 --> 00:54:27,000
Speaker 1: I'm gonna put Eli Apple on that list too, Okay,

1079
00:54:27,160 --> 00:54:28,960
Speaker 1: he's been very physical. I feel like it quite you

1080
00:54:29,040 --> 00:54:30,520
Speaker 1: know what. I don't even want to think about this

1081
00:54:30,680 --> 00:54:34,120
Speaker 1: because they've been instructed not to do that, so they're

1082
00:54:34,160 --> 00:54:38,600
Speaker 1: not going to do that. Okay, Okay, mind over matter exactly.

1083
00:54:39,560 --> 00:54:42,040
Speaker 1: And we and and Mat Patricia and Pat Shermer are

1084
00:54:42,040 --> 00:54:43,759
Speaker 1: on the same page. I probably shouldn't have had that

1085
00:54:43,840 --> 00:54:45,480
Speaker 1: question to let that have. Coaches will come down here

1086
00:54:45,520 --> 00:54:52,480
Speaker 1: in um any other players you particularly curious about out there. No,

1087
00:54:52,760 --> 00:54:55,520
Speaker 1: you know, you know what, John, I I think you know,

1088
00:54:55,640 --> 00:54:57,719
Speaker 1: we've we've touched all the different aspects of it and

1089
00:54:57,800 --> 00:54:59,800
Speaker 1: I and I would see I would say this the

1090
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:03,279
Speaker 1: another interesting thing for me. Um. We talked about the

1091
00:55:03,400 --> 00:55:05,800
Speaker 1: nickel earlier. We talked about the free safety spot earlier.

1092
00:55:06,120 --> 00:55:08,440
Speaker 1: There were some positions that still need to be contested

1093
00:55:08,480 --> 00:55:11,040
Speaker 1: on this team. The third wide receiver spots still to

1094
00:55:11,120 --> 00:55:13,520
Speaker 1: be contested. Okay, where do you have that competition? By

1095
00:55:13,520 --> 00:55:18,480
Speaker 1: the way, I'm still thinking latimer is is got the

1096
00:55:18,800 --> 00:55:21,400
Speaker 1: foot ahead of the rest of them. But is anybody

1097
00:55:21,520 --> 00:55:23,759
Speaker 1: really taking that job? Hunter sharp by those two if

1098
00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:25,840
Speaker 1: you don't had those two drops on Thursday, that that

1099
00:55:25,920 --> 00:55:29,439
Speaker 1: hurt him? I think, you know, so, um wide open

1100
00:55:29,560 --> 00:55:31,759
Speaker 1: in my opinion. So, I mean, those are other things

1101
00:55:31,840 --> 00:55:34,040
Speaker 1: we're constantly looking at, and we're not gonna stop looking

1102
00:55:34,080 --> 00:55:40,120
Speaker 1: at those spots for another three weeks. So anyway, are

1103
00:55:40,160 --> 00:55:42,600
Speaker 1: we done? I think? So? Okay, all right, we're gonna

1104
00:55:42,640 --> 00:55:46,600
Speaker 1: say goodbye. Thanks for everybody. MSG six o'clock tonight, Training

1105
00:55:46,680 --> 00:55:48,920
Speaker 1: Camp Live. You'll see this guy you see showing and

1106
00:55:49,000 --> 00:55:51,239
Speaker 1: I'm gonna make a guest appearance. You check that on

1107
00:55:51,400 --> 00:55:54,960
Speaker 1: MSG tonight starting at six and then six thirty again UM,

1108
00:55:55,040 --> 00:55:56,880
Speaker 1: and then they'll be on again on Tuesday night. We

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00:55:56,960 --> 00:55:59,680
Speaker 1: had to Detroit, UH this evening. I will be there

1110
00:55:59,760 --> 00:56:02,600
Speaker 1: with Average along with Madeline Burke and David Deal, Paul Detino,

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00:56:02,680 --> 00:56:05,440
Speaker 1: Lance Meadal, Jeff Eagles, and Howard Cross will man the

1112
00:56:05,560 --> 00:56:08,000
Speaker 1: studio back here with B b K coming your way

1113
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Speaker 1: live on Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday and Friday from one to two.

1114
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Speaker 1: I will be calling you live on Tuesday, Wednesday and

1115
00:56:14,440 --> 00:56:17,080
Speaker 1: Thursday and let everybody know what's been happening at Detroit

1116
00:56:17,160 --> 00:56:20,480
Speaker 1: to practice and during media availabilities. Thank you for joining us.

1117
00:56:20,560 --> 00:56:22,799
Speaker 1: For Paul Detino, I'm John Schmilk. We'll see you next

1118
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Speaker 1: time on Big Bookick Golla live on giants dot com.

1119
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Speaker 1: Have a pleasant day,