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Speaker 1: They got, they played. They start the season. Obviously, you

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Speaker 1: win the Super Bowl, you start this seven deserving it.

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Speaker 1: So so you got the Black Priday game, which is

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Speaker 1: the game after Thanksgiving, You got the Christmas Day game.

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Speaker 1: You got a Saturday game. Yeah, two Sunday night games,

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Speaker 4: They do rightfully to who much is given?

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Speaker 2: Much as required?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And plus the fact the matter of Ojo that

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Speaker 1: Black Friday game we're selling at the Amazon. Well, if

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Speaker 1: I'm spend one hundred, one hundred and fifty million dollars,

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Speaker 1: I need I need box Office. Who's more box Office

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Speaker 2: I need box Office? Who more box Office than my homeboy? Yeah?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and listen also, and I hate to bring this up,

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Speaker 5: an entirely different demographic and age group watching those games

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Speaker 2: Well, but don't bring that up, o yoase they gonna

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Speaker 6: I'm just telling you. I'm just telling you.

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Speaker 5: And she's made she's made her business to let people

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Speaker 5: know she will she will be at these games. Follow

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Speaker 5: her man, she will be at these games. And what

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Speaker 5: does that do NFL?

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Speaker 2: Follow the money?

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Speaker 4: Come on now, it's chess, not checkers. Chess not check us.

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Speaker 4: At the end of the day, remember what their bottom

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Speaker 5: No matter what they tell you, what they say, it's

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Speaker 1: So I'm not I'm not up I'm not upset. I'm

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Speaker 1: I mean, my our bye weeks when I was there,

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Speaker 2: Oh yo, So you know I'm good?

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Speaker 4: I go play pick up soccer the whole time every

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Speaker 1: Well, now, oh Joe, I think they got to give

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Speaker 6: WHOA a whole week?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they get the whole week off.

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Speaker 2: I mean a whole week, man, we got Mike.

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Speaker 1: You know, we go out there third like we might

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Speaker 5: But by now three days, man, look here, that ain't

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and I man, I remember, I remember clearly all

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Speaker 5: played soccer at KSP Kendu Soccer Park. I play at

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Speaker 5: Man, I'm playing soccer the whole week and then I

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Speaker 2: Mm hmm right here. Didn't one doing that? Fat? Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Don't care, he don't care.

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Speaker 1: Huh hell no, hell to the now, because he's like,

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Speaker 4: You can't wring your players into the ground, man.

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Speaker 1: Man, please, we were so we were so happy about that.

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Speaker 4: Man, you gotta leave Sunday night.

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Speaker 2: You can't chance it. I can't chance leaving Friday Monday morning.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and be late and in that plane something happened

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Speaker 2: Oh hell no, man, might to lose it.

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Speaker 4: Damn mind y'all y'all got fined back then?

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Speaker 2: What fine?

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Speaker 6: YEA the find one that much?

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Speaker 1: Because uh, I think like a fine might be like, say,

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Speaker 1: And so it's the fact, because here is the fact

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Speaker 1: but you coming down there to hand Mike some money

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Speaker 1: Maybe you was late for a meeting, you missed the meeting,

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Speaker 1: but that walk off, like we have that walkthrough. We

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Speaker 1: not walked through at eleven o'clock. Man, please, man, they see

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Speaker 1: Mike mag man, boy, you better not be late for

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Speaker 1: that walk through. Mike didn't play that. And then here

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Speaker 1: is the thing, Oh Joe, you know to walk through.

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Speaker 1: We're not going fool speed, but it's a nice speed

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Speaker 1: now it ain't no bullget yeah yeah man, oh Joe,

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Speaker 1: wat see let me table class. Why them dudes start

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Speaker 1: coming out there with tea.

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Speaker 2: Come home, man, come on, hold yo, man and tim

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Speaker 2: uh Man new jokes coming out there. Then come the hold.

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Speaker 4: It was cold right when it was cold though, Yeah.

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Speaker 1: But I'm just oh yo, that's not the them jokers

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Speaker 1: coming out there. They got the jeans on and then

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Speaker 6: Jeans.

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Speaker 2: Oh Lord, have mercy. Man, Mike Hey might call that

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Speaker 2: thing up. He said, y'all ever come out here like

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Speaker 2: that again? Right?

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Speaker 1: I said, See, I knew y'all would go it up.

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Speaker 1: I knew I knew it. I knew it. But they

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Speaker 2: Mike was right.

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Speaker 1: Oh Joe, we got we having a practice. This was

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Speaker 1: take Oh Joe, we were about thirty minutes through from practice. Now,

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Speaker 1: And I'm talking about this, know it like a beat.

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Speaker 1: I'm talking about this so cold old choke. Look, I

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Speaker 1: don't know what I think it was a team drill,

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Speaker 1: and I might have started it. You dropped the ball.

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Speaker 1: I dropped the ball. Rod dropped the ball through a

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Speaker 1: swing past the TV. He dropped the ball.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, man, Mike Blue that whistle.

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Speaker 2: Whistle that's shoover.

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Speaker 1: I was like, okay, oh so you know me, oh ye,

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Speaker 1: you know, I'm like, you know, my bad, fellows, my bad.

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Speaker 1: So I'm thinking we're about to start the period over right,

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Speaker 2: Man, I wanted to fight Mike. Yes, got the whole

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Speaker 2: mob on practice over.

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Speaker 1: Oh look here when I say Mike, when I say

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Speaker 1: Mike ran a tight ship and that foolishness, we didn't

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Speaker 1: have no foolishness, because hey, bro, look here, don't y'all

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Speaker 2: Heat up?

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Speaker 1: Like, okay, guys, if we doce X, Y and Z,

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Speaker 1: this time. We're gonna do it. We're gonna go out there,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna play it. We're gonna practice our ass off.

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Speaker 2: Y'all this up.

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Speaker 1: Because we know we had a we were a veteran

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Speaker 1: fight all you young mofos up in this thing. Don't

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 1: Mike started a whole practic from stretching. I thought we

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 1: we gotta go stretch all over again. I couldn't even

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Speaker 1: be hot because I was so damn cold. Yeah, hey boy,

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Speaker 4: But if I had to take a guess the discipline.

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Speaker 5: And that is why he ran it the way he did.

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Speaker 1: And see, that's why it never bothered me. My grandfather

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Speaker 1: It didn't bother me. My grandmother A what you said,

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Speaker 1: You can imagine it. You could imagine it. Couesn't happened.

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Speaker 1: Please o't your oh I came up like that thing.

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Speaker 1: After day I say, I ain't hurt no more. I

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Speaker 1: I'm a praise guy. Just tell me I did a

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Speaker 2: You know you can do. I don't need that. Just

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Speaker 2: Eighty four. We should have never let you go. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I had more money other places, but I thought it

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Speaker 1: Once he said that I was cool.

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Speaker 6: Fly and travel way.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, yeah, you got to just be careful for you.

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Speaker 5: Like when I think about it, the coaching style that

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Speaker 2: I like, I like that hard.

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Speaker 5: Coaching and where I'm based on where I'm from and

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Speaker 2: Get the cursing. Understanding.

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Speaker 5: That's I know I can get Chad going with a motherfucker,

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Speaker 5: what the fuck you doing? Goddamn it, Come on, now,

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Speaker 5: let's go. Man, shoot, well you oh that shit just

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Speaker 6: I don't know, I don't know how to explain it.

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Speaker 5: It just got me, got me going and got me

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Speaker 4: And all it took was for you to to throw

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Speaker 4: You know when you cook, you cook your chicken and you.

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Speaker 5: Add your seasoning just just add a little see I see,

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Speaker 5: I see curse words as sentence enhancers, and it just

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Speaker 2: It's weird. It's weird.

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Speaker 5: So I love and enjoyed that type of coaching because

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Speaker 5: o jo.

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00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:10,840
Speaker 1: I never played down because I know where I was playing,

442
00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:12,720
Speaker 1: because Mary Porter was in their condition.

443
00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:17,360
Speaker 2: All of a sudden, yes, yes, and I got yes.

444
00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:19,240
Speaker 2: And so that was my motivation.

445
00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:22,400
Speaker 1: You because I looked at everybody that I faced, Well,

446
00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:25,040
Speaker 1: you trying to get my grandmat this house, you're trying

447
00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:27,720
Speaker 1: to get my kids out of the private schools. You're

448
00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:30,320
Speaker 1: trying to take food off their table, You trying to

449
00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:32,520
Speaker 1: get shouting to go back to Glenville with no running water.

450
00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:37,080
Speaker 6: And oh no, bro, Yeah you couldn't see you and

451
00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:39,800
Speaker 6: you and you thought completely different idea. That's the only

452
00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:40,919
Speaker 6: thing completely different.

453
00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:44,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the that was That was my motivation from

454
00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:46,920
Speaker 1: the time I can remember me and my brother talking

455
00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:49,040
Speaker 1: about it when we were sitting on those pine trees.

456
00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:52,399
Speaker 1: Young pine trees are called saplings, and we built that

457
00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:54,919
Speaker 1: many of them mofos over and my grandma said, boy,

458
00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:56,480
Speaker 1: y'all need to stop beating them saplings.

459
00:21:57,400 --> 00:21:59,960
Speaker 2: Right, That's all we talked about. That's all I thought about.

460
00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:03,280
Speaker 2: That was my motivation. And so every time I looked

461
00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:06,359
Speaker 2: at somebody, Oh you trying to get granted up by

462
00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:06,800
Speaker 2: that house?

463
00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:16,880
Speaker 6: Okay, maam, I can tell y'all ship chat.

464
00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:18,840
Speaker 5: We family, were family, and I don't think he would

465
00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:20,680
Speaker 5: have an issue with that because what we talked about

466
00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:21,320
Speaker 5: was positive.

467
00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:22,680
Speaker 6: I mean it was positive.

468
00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:24,560
Speaker 5: And he's gonna do all he can to make sure

469
00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:26,640
Speaker 5: he's out there, you know, for the Kansas City game.

470
00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:28,840
Speaker 5: And I told him to be careful. I told him

471
00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:30,359
Speaker 5: to be careful because there's something you don't want to

472
00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:39,160
Speaker 5: play with. Salt tissue injuries, hamstring growing calf, what else salt.

473
00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:45,160
Speaker 2: Tissue calf is growing at doctor? Yeah.

474
00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:47,280
Speaker 5: I told him what you don't want to do is

475
00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:49,359
Speaker 5: don't go out there too early. Don't go out there

476
00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:52,440
Speaker 5: too early. See how it feels in practice, you know,

477
00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:54,720
Speaker 5: I say, take a Wednesday off, Take Thursday off, don't

478
00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:58,040
Speaker 5: even practice this week, practice Friday if you got to,

479
00:22:58,200 --> 00:22:59,919
Speaker 5: and then open up and see how you feel. If

480
00:22:59,960 --> 00:23:02,480
Speaker 5: you feel like you can open up and you.

481
00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:04,040
Speaker 2: Don't feel in a little pinch or no or no

482
00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:07,520
Speaker 2: pull tug, Yeah, no, no tug, You're good to go.

483
00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:08,639
Speaker 2: You're good to go.

484
00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:11,520
Speaker 5: So I think I think us, for us, the Bengals

485
00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:14,320
Speaker 5: in general obviously and t I think we're gonna We're

486
00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:14,959
Speaker 5: gonna be all right.

487
00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:16,000
Speaker 6: For some reason.

488
00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:19,640
Speaker 5: You got to think we were two and six under

489
00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:23,879
Speaker 5: Zach Taylor. We two and six in Week one, in

490
00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:26,760
Speaker 5: the last ten games, two and six week one, So

491
00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:29,440
Speaker 5: I'm used to us always having a slow start offensively,

492
00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:32,000
Speaker 5: we always start slow. I think we're gonna be all right.

493
00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:35,119
Speaker 5: And I bet with us emotionally against New England.

494
00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:38,200
Speaker 2: Yeah you did, you did, definitely emotionally.

495
00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:41,280
Speaker 5: So so right now, based on what I saw from

496
00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:44,119
Speaker 5: the Pats, I think the I mean the Pats, but

497
00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:46,720
Speaker 5: the basically what I saw from the Chiefs. Yes, I

498
00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:49,080
Speaker 5: think I think the Chiefs might win this one. As

499
00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:50,960
Speaker 5: much as I love my Bengals, I think the Chiefs

500
00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:54,880
Speaker 5: might win with with Mike win with might win this one.

501
00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:57,800
Speaker 5: If we have Chase playing, we got tea planing. All right,

502
00:23:57,880 --> 00:23:59,800
Speaker 5: that changes everything, That changes the dynamic.

503
00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:04,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's uh. And that's the thing because the suddenness

504
00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:07,080
Speaker 2: in which you need to move, you need to be able.

505
00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:10,119
Speaker 1: To start, stop transition, get in and out of that

506
00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:12,639
Speaker 1: break and guess what gonna you too?

507
00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:13,120
Speaker 4: Yet?

508
00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:15,600
Speaker 2: Man, that was the only thing I say.

509
00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:18,760
Speaker 1: Guys, Look, I don't mind you if I if I,

510
00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:22,679
Speaker 1: if I break free from you, don't tug me because

511
00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:25,480
Speaker 1: I'm pulling the herd up. You make me hurt, you

512
00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:29,239
Speaker 1: make me tweak my hamstring and then I'm gonna turn

513
00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:30,880
Speaker 1: it right and swing on you. So I ain't gonna lie.

514
00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:34,800
Speaker 2: So don't don't don't do that. Was that was my

515
00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:35,800
Speaker 2: only rule, O Joe.

516
00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:38,600
Speaker 1: I look, okay, guys, hold of me, try to get

517
00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:40,120
Speaker 1: off the line to get it because I know they're

518
00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:41,920
Speaker 1: gonna come back. Then they let they held the ship

519
00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:44,400
Speaker 1: at you, excuse me, they held they held a crap

520
00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:44,760
Speaker 1: out of you.

521
00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:48,159
Speaker 2: Back in the night.

522
00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:50,000
Speaker 1: And man, they ain't called nothing on your bad. It

523
00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:53,760
Speaker 1: was a fight out there. But don't tug my jersey

524
00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:55,680
Speaker 1: once I break away from you. Don't do that because

525
00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:57,600
Speaker 1: you know a lot of times it's to call what

526
00:24:57,920 --> 00:24:59,879
Speaker 1: we call it like a sling shot move I did

527
00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:01,040
Speaker 1: to a lot of D linemen.

528
00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:03,320
Speaker 2: Like they get in front of me, I grab them

529
00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:03,840
Speaker 2: and then.

530
00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:06,080
Speaker 1: Pulled myself out, launched myself in front of them, and

531
00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:07,719
Speaker 1: now I'm in a position where I could block them.

532
00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:10,040
Speaker 1: And that's what DB's do. They would tug you and

533
00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:11,320
Speaker 1: the next thing you know, they in front of you

534
00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:14,479
Speaker 1: to knock the ball down. So that was my only thing,

535
00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:19,760
Speaker 1: and it's tough, and I went through something very similar

536
00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:24,960
Speaker 1: to what Tea is going through. Signed the contract in

537
00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:27,639
Speaker 1: ninety six. It was a three year deal, made me

538
00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:30,600
Speaker 1: the highest paid. Told me that, hey, Shannon, you know

539
00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:34,520
Speaker 1: you played like you played. We're gonna tear this contract up.

540
00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:36,240
Speaker 1: You'll never get to the third year. We're gon we're

541
00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:39,200
Speaker 1: gonna extend it. Right, So ninety seven, I come in

542
00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:42,639
Speaker 1: on your ninety seven. I come in, first team All Pro,

543
00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:46,280
Speaker 1: eleven hundred yards, lead the team in receiving, ninety eight

544
00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:53,119
Speaker 1: go in, led the team in touchdowns, first team All

545
00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:57,480
Speaker 1: Pro game. No contract, No, they're not even talking about contract.

546
00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:00,159
Speaker 2: Come man.

547
00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:05,960
Speaker 1: I tweaked my aduct probably about ten days before we

548
00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:06,800
Speaker 1: got a report.

549
00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:11,439
Speaker 2: Ojo man, that thing wouldn't get healthy for nothing, And so.

550
00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:15,479
Speaker 1: I deal with that all training camp, and I managed

551
00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:18,280
Speaker 1: to get through it and I was able to get massages,

552
00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:20,840
Speaker 1: got it worked on, and it's starting to feel better.

553
00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:23,800
Speaker 2: Get off to a great start over too.

554
00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:26,000
Speaker 1: I think I got like in the first three or

555
00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:29,040
Speaker 1: four games, I got like twenty three twenty four catches

556
00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:29,600
Speaker 1: cook it.

557
00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:30,000
Speaker 2: Yeah.

558
00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:35,439
Speaker 1: In that fourth game, Ojo Darian Gordon, whose X teammate

559
00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:38,159
Speaker 1: of mind. Then what we call teacups. So he catched

560
00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:41,399
Speaker 1: me like this, I'm running shallow and he tackled in

561
00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:44,879
Speaker 1: my arm. Yeah, broke my collar bone.

562
00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:49,639
Speaker 2: Oh, you hit the ground. He put all that pressure

563
00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:51,800
Speaker 2: on you all that. They don't take much the ressure

564
00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:54,000
Speaker 2: to break the collar bone. And I knew it. I

565
00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:56,119
Speaker 2: knew it instantly. I knew it instantly.

566
00:26:57,160 --> 00:27:00,080
Speaker 1: I remember saying, I remember sitting up Greek most in

567
00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:02,760
Speaker 1: the Greek to come get, come, come Greek. I said,

568
00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:04,560
Speaker 1: Greek is my collar ball Greek. He said, what do

569
00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:06,359
Speaker 1: you think happened? Sharpe, I said, Greek, I broke it.

570
00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:09,119
Speaker 1: He said, you think so? So he put his he

571
00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:10,000
Speaker 1: put his hands up.

572
00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:13,320
Speaker 2: On the up under my up under my past. Yes, Sharpe,

573
00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:30,280
Speaker 2: you you're like a oh Joe Joe daddy man missed

574
00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:33,600
Speaker 2: the rest of the year end up in Baltimore, Oh Joe.

575
00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:36,760
Speaker 1: There's a report that Justin Fields had a toxic relationship

576
00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:40,120
Speaker 1: with Nick Foles in the Chicago locker room. According to reports,

577
00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:43,639
Speaker 1: the relationship between Foes and Fields basically reached rock bottle

578
00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:46,800
Speaker 1: after a situation where Fose were trying to teach something

579
00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:49,320
Speaker 1: to feel only to turn around and realized that Phil

580
00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:52,480
Speaker 1: wasn't paying attention to anything Phil Fols were saying.

581
00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:55,920
Speaker 2: According to report, Foes and Fields could not stand each

582
00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:58,119
Speaker 2: other and wrong with that.

583
00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:03,359
Speaker 4: They said, you you in chat in the NFL, listen as.

584
00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:05,679
Speaker 5: Much as you want to get along with everybody, think

585
00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:07,240
Speaker 5: about where you work. If you work in the corporate

586
00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:09,960
Speaker 5: world or wherever you work, you don't get along with

587
00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:11,400
Speaker 5: every person that's there.

588
00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:14,360
Speaker 6: That man is in there to take your job.

589
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:18,520
Speaker 2: They are there to compete. Yeah, yeah, they are you.

590
00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:20,800
Speaker 5: You are there to compete. Everybody's not gonna get along

591
00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:23,439
Speaker 5: on the same team. That's just the nature of the business.

592
00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:27,240
Speaker 5: At times, I'm better than you. Why are you sitting

593
00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:30,359
Speaker 5: there trying to teach me younger, younger player. Listen to

594
00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:33,480
Speaker 5: an older veteran who's been somewhat not someone not not really,

595
00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:35,760
Speaker 5: I don't want to call him a journeyman, but you know,

596
00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:38,080
Speaker 5: playing on a few different teams, he has a Super

597
00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:40,160
Speaker 5: Bowl win. So I think that's someone you would want

598
00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:43,840
Speaker 5: to listen to, and especially yeah, especially when it comes

599
00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:45,600
Speaker 5: to playing a position to the quarterback, because he knows

600
00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:48,040
Speaker 5: what it takes to win, because he has one before

601
00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:49,280
Speaker 5: after taking over for.

602
00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:55,000
Speaker 4: Carson Wentz who got hurt. You know, but listen, at times,

603
00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:58,000
Speaker 4: you're just not gonna like people. It's just the way

604
00:28:58,040 --> 00:28:58,240
Speaker 4: it is.

605
00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:00,720
Speaker 5: And I think it's unfortunate that that came down to this.

606
00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:02,680
Speaker 5: I think it's unfortunate that it got out. Now that

607
00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:05,720
Speaker 5: Justin Fielder is gone and he's in eath in Pittsburgh,

608
00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:08,920
Speaker 5: So why now, why now it wasn't an issue, then

609
00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:10,480
Speaker 5: why make it an issue now.

610
00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:12,000
Speaker 2: It wasn't such issue.

611
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:14,880
Speaker 1: But I just I'm disappointed that it got out because

612
00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:18,040
Speaker 1: it makes Justin feel like he's uncoachable, like he's he's

613
00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:19,640
Speaker 1: unwilling to listen to someone.

614
00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:20,800
Speaker 6: That's trying to help help me out.

615
00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:22,800
Speaker 1: And you know, look, when I was in there and

616
00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:25,200
Speaker 1: somebody could give me some valuable information on the mistake

617
00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:27,360
Speaker 1: that I made is that I listened to the wrong

618
00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:29,320
Speaker 1: person and he gave me the wrong round and I

619
00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:30,560
Speaker 1: went there read at full.

620
00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:32,200
Speaker 2: Speed, and Coach looked at me like I was a

621
00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:35,080
Speaker 2: damn food. But that's my fault. That's my fault. I think.

622
00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:37,280
Speaker 1: The thing is o Joe for me is that when

623
00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:39,680
Speaker 1: I I've always said that if I ever gotten a situation,

624
00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:42,440
Speaker 1: I said, when I make the team next year, someone

625
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:44,520
Speaker 1: asked me something, I'm gonna be able to give him

626
00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:46,920
Speaker 1: the real information because I'm just look at you, Joe.

627
00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:48,280
Speaker 2: You can't beat me.

628
00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:51,200
Speaker 1: I'm gonna teach you everything you know, not everything I know,

629
00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:53,560
Speaker 1: so you're never gonna be able to get beat this job.

630
00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:56,120
Speaker 1: And I understand, like when Ozzy made the move to

631
00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:58,280
Speaker 1: move on the targy, he had to get me up

632
00:29:58,280 --> 00:29:59,720
Speaker 1: out of the TARGI was never gonna be able to

633
00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:01,880
Speaker 1: beat me, but that dragon right because I knew too much.

634
00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:04,000
Speaker 1: I had been I knew all the tricks of the trade.

635
00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:06,480
Speaker 1: I knew how to get opened no matter what the

636
00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:09,560
Speaker 1: situation was. But my job was to make sure and

637
00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:12,560
Speaker 1: to Rook's credit, he hung on everything that I said.

638
00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:15,600
Speaker 1: So I tried to make sure that the locker of

639
00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:18,560
Speaker 1: the tight end room was better when I left and

640
00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:21,240
Speaker 1: when I found it the same way with Denver. I

641
00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:24,440
Speaker 1: take it as a as an elder statesman. Oo, that's

642
00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:27,719
Speaker 1: my job to pass that information down. Because I had

643
00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:30,680
Speaker 1: some guys that really helped me in the receiver room.

644
00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:35,360
Speaker 1: Mark Jackson, I backed him up. He helped me immensely,

645
00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:40,840
Speaker 1: Vance Johnson. Those guys really really helped me when I

646
00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:44,800
Speaker 1: was there, and so I really appreciated the older guys

647
00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:47,040
Speaker 1: really helping me to try to get me up to

648
00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:50,040
Speaker 1: speed because they knew if something would have them, I'm

649
00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:51,800
Speaker 1: gonna have to go in and play. Now, what good

650
00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:53,280
Speaker 1: is that you don't help me out? And I got

651
00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:54,560
Speaker 1: to go in and play and I don't know what

652
00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:57,560
Speaker 1: the hell I'm doing. Right, that's a negative reflection on you.

653
00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:00,280
Speaker 1: But I agree with you, Joe.

654
00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:01,800
Speaker 2: I don't like that this got out.

655
00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:03,440
Speaker 1: Because at the end of the day, you know who's

656
00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:06,000
Speaker 1: gonna look negative on Yeah, because you got a veteran

657
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:08,080
Speaker 1: quarterback that's played a number of years in the league,

658
00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:11,400
Speaker 1: and like you said, he did win the Super Bowl,

659
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:13,760
Speaker 1: he did go to a Pro Bowl. He once had

660
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:16,480
Speaker 1: a season with you through twenty seven doves, two interception.

661
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:19,520
Speaker 1: So it's like, man, he tried to help justin field

662
00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:22,600
Speaker 1: and just the field doesn't. He's uncoachable. You can't help it.

663
00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:25,720
Speaker 4: And it's so funny. It's always it's always the black quarterbacks.

664
00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:27,720
Speaker 5: W stuff like this comes out. You think it only

665
00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:30,320
Speaker 5: happy with them. I guarantee you it definitely doesn't. I

666
00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:32,360
Speaker 5: think when Brett Farr and Aaron Rodgers were there, I'm

667
00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:33,280
Speaker 5: sure they will.

668
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:35,840
Speaker 4: Say the same. Yeah, hey, it it was some of

669
00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:37,080
Speaker 4: the same issues, you know, I think.

670
00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:38,880
Speaker 5: I think it happens like that when you have two

671
00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:42,239
Speaker 5: players at a certain position and you understand that if

672
00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:44,400
Speaker 5: you're not playing well the person that's trying to help

673
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:47,000
Speaker 5: him coach, you could eventually be taking your job if

674
00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:47,760
Speaker 5: you don't play.

675
00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:51,280
Speaker 6: Up the par and it just it is what it is.

676
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:52,560
Speaker 2: Oh Joe.

677
00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:56,000
Speaker 1: The friendly wager between UNLSU teammate Jane Daniel Belik Neighbors

678
00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:56,360
Speaker 1: is off.

679
00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:56,560
Speaker 2: Now.

680
00:31:56,840 --> 00:31:59,200
Speaker 1: They placed the friendly wager ten thousand dollars bet which

681
00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:02,000
Speaker 1: he whoever would win off the NFL's offensive rookie of

682
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:02,320
Speaker 1: the Year.

683
00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:03,560
Speaker 2: Now you'd win the money.

684
00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:06,120
Speaker 1: But on Friday after the Neighbors attended rookie camp, the

685
00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:09,080
Speaker 1: Giants learning the specific of the NFL's gambling park problem.

686
00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:12,760
Speaker 1: Excuse me, the NFL gambling policy and he revealed that

687
00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:14,640
Speaker 1: the bet was off. It is unclear if the beat

688
00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:17,080
Speaker 1: would have violated the policy, but the two aren't taking

689
00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:21,320
Speaker 1: any chances now. The neighbors said, I'm educating now and

690
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:23,200
Speaker 1: I got to be able sports betting and gambling.

691
00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:25,800
Speaker 2: So we're calling the bet off. There's no bet now.

692
00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:31,960
Speaker 5: And no sir, Hey, Malik, neighbors Jane Daniels, the better

693
00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:34,840
Speaker 5: still own the better still on, give me the money.

694
00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:38,600
Speaker 6: I'm still a part. I'm not a part of the NFL. Well,

695
00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:40,120
Speaker 6: I am waiting now mine. Let me take that back,

696
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:42,520
Speaker 6: Let me take that back. Better still on, No matter what,

697
00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:43,960
Speaker 6: just put the money in my hand.

698
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:46,520
Speaker 5: Put the money in my hand, and I make a

699
00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:49,920
Speaker 5: decision at the end of the season on who deserves it. Malik,

700
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:51,959
Speaker 5: you got to come to playboy, You got to come

701
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:53,960
Speaker 5: to play if you're going to outdo a quarterback.

702
00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:54,640
Speaker 2: What happened?

703
00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:58,360
Speaker 1: How about a bro I bet your ten grand I

704
00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:02,000
Speaker 1: went offensive Rookie of the Year? Okay, bet it's when

705
00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:06,520
Speaker 1: you made it public, right, see something? Some things you

706
00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:08,040
Speaker 1: just keep telling yourself.

707
00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:08,040
Speaker 7: O Joe.

708
00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:10,880
Speaker 5: Well, actually I like it, though I like it because

709
00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:15,120
Speaker 5: I don't think he made it public. I think it's

710
00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:17,560
Speaker 5: it's a great uh motivating tactic?

711
00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:19,920
Speaker 2: Are you in a less motivated by things?

712
00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:20,120
Speaker 4: You?

713
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:22,240
Speaker 2: Let me ask you a question, how many people?

714
00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:25,080
Speaker 1: How many people? How many people knew your goals? You

715
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:27,320
Speaker 1: didn't share them with anybody, did you? And you was

716
00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:32,200
Speaker 1: just as motivated the chiebo. You have to understand well, look,

717
00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:35,120
Speaker 1: I get it, Ojo, but you have to understand how

718
00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:37,400
Speaker 1: the NFL and the gambling. So you don't want you

719
00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:40,000
Speaker 1: don't even want to mention of it. Like I said,

720
00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:44,600
Speaker 1: O Joe, I bet you're such and such. Bet do

721
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:49,120
Speaker 1: at the end of the year, how'd you get this?

722
00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:52,400
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna say how I got it, but a

723
00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:54,560
Speaker 1: good a good friend of mine gifted it to me.

724
00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:58,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I think for one, on the league neighbors part,

725
00:33:58,680 --> 00:33:59,720
Speaker 4: I think it was all in good fun.

726
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:00,200
Speaker 2: You know.

727
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:04,400
Speaker 5: Look, look friendly, really friendly, friendly competition. And I don't

728
00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:08,080
Speaker 5: think I don't think it's against the NFL gambling polish

729
00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:09,520
Speaker 5: because they're not gambling on the game.

730
00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:12,120
Speaker 6: They're just it's a friendly.

731
00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:16,120
Speaker 5: Wager between them between themselves based on how they play

732
00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:16,920
Speaker 5: their rookie season.

733
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:17,440
Speaker 6: That's all that.

734
00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:19,719
Speaker 4: That's no foul, no harm. Now you know you want

735
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:20,319
Speaker 4: to know what's harm?

736
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:25,000
Speaker 5: Me bribing the referee with a goddamned dollar bill trying

737
00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:27,359
Speaker 5: to challenge a riff a call.

738
00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:31,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, now that that not that. Now that's gambling because I.

739
00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:33,800
Speaker 6: Literally took out a dollar and tried to bribe the referee.

740
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:37,680
Speaker 5: Now that I understand them making a friendly wager between themselves,

741
00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:40,680
Speaker 5: whether it's public or not, it's no harm, no foul,

742
00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:45,319
Speaker 5: and I hope i'd hope, you know, we'd allow those

743
00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:46,160
Speaker 5: two to go out it.

744
00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:48,920
Speaker 1: Man, you know there a lot of bets going on. Man,

745
00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:51,759
Speaker 1: that doesn't been best between teammates. I mean not teammates,

746
00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:55,600
Speaker 1: but hell, I a teammates free Yeah.

747
00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:58,640
Speaker 6: Yeah, but nobody knows, nobody, nobody.

748
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:02,080
Speaker 1: Know, nobody knew. I bet for Williams twenty five thousand,

749
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:03,799
Speaker 1: but I would have more touchdown than.

750
00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:04,480
Speaker 2: He had sacks.

751
00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:09,000
Speaker 1: God leave, man, guess what I broke. I broke my

752
00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:12,239
Speaker 1: collar ball week four. He broke he towards Achilles week five.

753
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:15,920
Speaker 1: So we settled. I went to He wanted twelve out,

754
00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:19,080
Speaker 1: so I said we could settle. He had one sack,

755
00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:23,360
Speaker 1: I had no touches, So we settled.

756
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:24,239
Speaker 2: What you had to pay?

757
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:27,319
Speaker 1: He said, I'll tell you what he said, I want

758
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:31,120
Speaker 1: twelve thousand five hundred dollars. Guess what this joker wanting.

759
00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:36,880
Speaker 2: What do you want it? Don't say food, Susan B. Anthony.

760
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:40,640
Speaker 2: Dollars Susan B. Anthony.

761
00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:43,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, he wanted those quarter dollars, so I had to

762
00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:46,000
Speaker 1: go to the bank and get because he wanted to

763
00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:50,040
Speaker 1: inconvenience me. He wanted my pride. Oh, order into the bank.

764
00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:52,480
Speaker 1: Could I get twelve thousand, five hundred dollars of Susan B.

765
00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:54,160
Speaker 2: Anthony? Do your hard know how hard it is to

766
00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:57,160
Speaker 2: get those damn things? So he made it difficult, yes,

767
00:35:57,600 --> 00:35:58,960
Speaker 2: and they was heavy as hair.

768
00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:06,279
Speaker 6: Hey, let's go. I like the bet, though, I like.

769
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:08,440
Speaker 1: Because that's the way we betted, so like we bet

770
00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:11,000
Speaker 1: in the locker room, didn't I didn't want your money,

771
00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:15,480
Speaker 1: I want your pride. Yeah, I want five hundred dollars nickels. Man, Shaw,

772
00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:17,839
Speaker 1: come on, man, I want you to take your ass

773
00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:20,799
Speaker 1: to the bank. Ask the cashier could you get five

774
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:23,279
Speaker 1: hundred dollars in nickels? And when she asked, you say,

775
00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:25,319
Speaker 1: mister such and such, why you need five hundred dollars

776
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:27,600
Speaker 1: on nickels. I want you to tell them I lost

777
00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:30,759
Speaker 1: the bet to eighty four. I'll get buffalo knickas I

778
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:32,920
Speaker 1: get one hundred dollars in Buffalo nickels, I get two

779
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:35,760
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty dollars in dimes. That's what I wanted.

780
00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:39,560
Speaker 1: I wanted, I wanted what is it, candidate half dollars?

781
00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:43,040
Speaker 1: We call them Kenada fifty cent pe. Yeah, I wanted dose, yes,

782
00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:46,440
Speaker 1: silver dollars. Yes, I want your pride, oh to everybody

783
00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:47,080
Speaker 1: making money.

784
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:48,440
Speaker 2: So what is it for me? O?

785
00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:50,640
Speaker 1: Can you lose a thousand dollars? You're gonna bring me

786
00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:53,040
Speaker 1: a thousand dollars cash? No, I don't want a thousand

787
00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:59,280
Speaker 1: dollars cash. I want coins, pennies, nickels, dimes, Buffalo nickels,

788
00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:03,920
Speaker 1: Susan b Anthony quarters, Canada half dollar. Candidate fifty said

789
00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:05,200
Speaker 1: what we call him in the South.

790
00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:09,480
Speaker 2: God, oh Joe.

791
00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:12,480
Speaker 1: You know we gambled everything. We had a little poppet

792
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:16,160
Speaker 1: shot basketball thing in the locker room. So we we

793
00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:19,480
Speaker 1: betting per Dim. Hey bet everybody got there. Per Dim

794
00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:25,520
Speaker 1: lined up the road for Dim. Yes, yes, we bet road.

795
00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:26,720
Speaker 2: For Dim man.

796
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:30,920
Speaker 1: Me and we're getting ready to go to practice being

797
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:34,160
Speaker 1: mahme being my homeboy Burns. He's like, we got so

798
00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:36,279
Speaker 1: you know, we've been there for a week So I

799
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:37,920
Speaker 1: went upstairs, got my check, got his.

800
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:41,160
Speaker 2: I said, because we like to bet, don't even look

801
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:41,400
Speaker 2: at it.

802
00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:44,120
Speaker 1: Put it down. Okay, fine, bet, but what it is?

803
00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:47,799
Speaker 1: So I put my check down, He put his down.

804
00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:52,399
Speaker 1: We shoot, We gotta go to practice. We come back.

805
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:54,319
Speaker 1: Come on, let's get the ball first. Hey, hold up

806
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:57,520
Speaker 1: me and burn shooting this? He shoot, he missed.

807
00:37:57,719 --> 00:38:01,680
Speaker 2: I make it. So at that point in time, you

808
00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:03,920
Speaker 2: get to open the check and see what it is.

809
00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:04,520
Speaker 4: Right.

810
00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:07,759
Speaker 2: So he opened my check. I opened his.

811
00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:12,719
Speaker 1: He was like fourteen hundred dollars, right, MANE was like

812
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:18,640
Speaker 1: seventy thousand. He said, Oh boy, you'd have been throwing up.

813
00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:21,759
Speaker 1: I said, oh, hell yeah, I say, but that's but

814
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:24,040
Speaker 1: that's the chance that you make. You don't look at

815
00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:24,439
Speaker 1: the check.

816
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:29,160
Speaker 2: You just bet. Yeah, I'm cool with that. I'll bet it.

817
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:34,600
Speaker 1: Oh we bet everything. Oh we bet everything? Oh bou

818
00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:37,240
Speaker 1: ray in between? You have played in between?

819
00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:41,200
Speaker 6: N what's that in between between two?

820
00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:43,960
Speaker 1: You take two decks of cards. I flipped one. I

821
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:46,640
Speaker 1: flipped both cards up. It might be an ace, it

822
00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:50,560
Speaker 1: might be a five. You gonna say, he in between.

823
00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:53,879
Speaker 1: If it comes in between the ace and the five,

824
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:56,920
Speaker 1: you win. If you get hit on the edges you

825
00:38:57,040 --> 00:38:59,120
Speaker 1: get dump you have to pay double. So if it's

826
00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:04,440
Speaker 1: an ACE or A five, you pay double. Man, we

827
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:08,000
Speaker 1: laid on the way to super Bowl after guys, what

828
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:09,719
Speaker 1: pot got in life?

829
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:13,520
Speaker 2: Fifty grand? Thousand?

830
00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:17,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh, we took super Bowl I took. Oh, hey, Peter,

831
00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:19,000
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I got to give up this information.

832
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:20,120
Speaker 2: Oh but we took.

833
00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:23,319
Speaker 1: We took a We took for super Bowl tickets off

834
00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:27,280
Speaker 1: Willie Green fourth super Bowl tickets and ten grand.

835
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:29,839
Speaker 7: Oh.

836
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:34,400
Speaker 1: Look, I was very generous. Oh, Joe, I want to

837
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:39,799
Speaker 1: do old school car seventy one chavel? Yeah, I said, Man,

838
00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:42,520
Speaker 1: give me five grand. I can't, I say, cause you

839
00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:45,120
Speaker 1: go home and tell your wife you lost this car.

840
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:49,000
Speaker 1: It's gonna be problems in your snap. Yeah, give me

841
00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:52,400
Speaker 1: five grand. We'll call it either. And Mike used to

842
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:56,880
Speaker 1: tell him, say, look, y'all gambling with eighty four. Do

843
00:39:57,000 --> 00:39:58,720
Speaker 1: y'all know how long eighty four have been playing?

844
00:39:59,320 --> 00:39:59,480
Speaker 4: Right?

845
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:01,000
Speaker 2: Eighty four? Okay.

846
00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:04,439
Speaker 1: I don't really like you guys gambling, because I don't

847
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:06,680
Speaker 1: want you thinking about your lost twenty thousand and thirty

848
00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:11,759
Speaker 1: thousand during the game. But if I rock with you,

849
00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:14,000
Speaker 1: if I want to big some of money off, y'all

850
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:16,520
Speaker 1: like bro, go ahead, Hey, just give me, give me

851
00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:17,240
Speaker 1: five grand.

852
00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:22,480
Speaker 2: We'll call it either. But I wanted nice black chrome rems.

853
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:23,480
Speaker 2: Just got it.

854
00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:26,880
Speaker 1: It probably worked about twenty twenty five. I said, Man,

855
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:27,800
Speaker 1: give me five grand.

856
00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:30,919
Speaker 2: You cool boy.

857
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:33,480
Speaker 6: Hey, for y'all listen, I'll wake.

858
00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:40,520
Speaker 4: Whenever the gambling went on, locker room training camp. We

859
00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:41,160
Speaker 4: don't break.

860
00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:42,279
Speaker 8: Man.

861
00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:43,160
Speaker 6: I'm man.

862
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:45,320
Speaker 4: You know I ain't around none of that, bro, I

863
00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:47,760
Speaker 4: ain't spending money.

864
00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:51,959
Speaker 1: Came about, Oh Joe, you gonna ask anybody that played

865
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:55,640
Speaker 1: in Denver from nineteen from nineteen ninety five ninety six,

866
00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:58,439
Speaker 1: all the way they closed it down when I left,

867
00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:00,480
Speaker 1: when I came back from there.

868
00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:01,360
Speaker 2: That's what we gamble.

869
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:05,719
Speaker 1: We played cards, we wrote roll dice, they play video game.

870
00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:08,959
Speaker 1: We drank smoke, all that with a club.

871
00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:10,560
Speaker 2: That's how it came to be.

872
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:13,239
Speaker 6: Man, I don't see. I don't see how y'all do that.

873
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:16,160
Speaker 5: Man, And people in the chat that gamble, people just

874
00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:18,800
Speaker 5: in general, like even when y'all was playing, even former

875
00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:21,520
Speaker 5: teammates of mind they was there. There's such an excitement

876
00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:24,800
Speaker 5: and passion and joy in people's faces when they gamble.

877
00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:27,720
Speaker 5: Here from and me being from Miami watching people gamble,

878
00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:31,600
Speaker 5: playing spades, playing playing tunk, playing get like me with

879
00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:34,520
Speaker 5: the quarters that it was in high school, watching watching

880
00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:36,640
Speaker 5: the dope boys play Sea low. Excuse me, I hate

881
00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:38,480
Speaker 5: I hate to say that word, but watching.

882
00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:41,000
Speaker 6: The boys se lo like, what are we doing?

883
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:45,200
Speaker 5: I'm not doing nothing or losing my money to anything

884
00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:49,640
Speaker 5: where I can't control it. Like if I'm losing money,

885
00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:51,919
Speaker 5: I want to be in control of it. I don't

886
00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:55,759
Speaker 5: want any outside variations of what I'm doing.

887
00:41:56,560 --> 00:41:57,879
Speaker 2: It caused me to lose my money.

888
00:41:58,960 --> 00:41:59,880
Speaker 6: I can't, I can't do it.

889
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:02,680
Speaker 5: And then I remember going I went to the casino

890
00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:06,400
Speaker 5: with Rail and I'm talking to the man saying, sir,

891
00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:09,560
Speaker 5: are y'all gonna stop the man from continuing to gamble

892
00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:11,640
Speaker 5: that much money at the high roller table?

893
00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:12,719
Speaker 6: Why are you allowing him.

894
00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:12,880
Speaker 8: To do this?

895
00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:15,440
Speaker 6: That's what we do here?

896
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:19,920
Speaker 2: Ye oh no, I gotta have we gambling.

897
00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:22,000
Speaker 4: Why why do you think we don't have no windows?

898
00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:24,480
Speaker 6: What the you means? What the windows have to do anything?

899
00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:27,600
Speaker 1: And their clocks on the wall because they want you

900
00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:30,360
Speaker 1: to lose track of time and they pumping in fresh oxygen.

901
00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:33,719
Speaker 6: List I learned all this just not too long ago.

902
00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:35,239
Speaker 6: With that, when I was in Vegas for f one.

903
00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:39,560
Speaker 6: You know, I'm like many'll oh Joe, we gamble.

904
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:43,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, every night, every There was not one night in

905
00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:47,640
Speaker 1: Denver when I was in training camp that we didn't gamble. Oh, Joe,

906
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:49,880
Speaker 1: we was going to bed like we gotta be like,

907
00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:52,759
Speaker 1: we got practice at nine. We ain't going to bed

908
00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:54,840
Speaker 1: till like two o'clock, three o'clock in the morning.

909
00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:57,720
Speaker 4: And y'all going to practice on four five hours of sleep.

910
00:42:58,200 --> 00:42:58,399
Speaker 2: Yeah.

911
00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:01,839
Speaker 1: And the last night we step up the whole night

912
00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:05,120
Speaker 1: like our crew that normally, Oh, we gotta you gotta

913
00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:10,600
Speaker 1: stey up the whole night. Oh oh we had a

914
00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:14,879
Speaker 1: black Hey, we had a blast. Oh and the last

915
00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:19,000
Speaker 1: and the last night the rookiees. Yeah, got to give

916
00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:19,560
Speaker 1: them o joke.

917
00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:21,160
Speaker 6: You got you got them? Yeah, I remember.

918
00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:22,319
Speaker 2: Man.

919
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:24,840
Speaker 1: Look here we go to the store. We get like

920
00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:29,319
Speaker 1: twenty five pounds of flour. We get like eight nine

921
00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:34,000
Speaker 1: ten bottles of syrup. We cut the pillows open, right,

922
00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:35,480
Speaker 1: we got the tar and feather.

923
00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:39,920
Speaker 6: Oh not the tar feather, Yeah, extinguish.

924
00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:41,840
Speaker 4: Oh you know how hard you're not hard that is

925
00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:42,359
Speaker 4: to get off?

926
00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:43,279
Speaker 2: I do know.

927
00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:46,839
Speaker 1: Oh no, think about how many guys came with Ben

928
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:49,719
Speaker 1: with Ben with pillow feathers in their head and only

929
00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:51,120
Speaker 1: stuck on their back and on the neck.

930
00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:57,520
Speaker 2: Hey cause you know I was cool. Hey, you know, hey,

931
00:43:58,120 --> 00:44:00,440
Speaker 2: I get the key, I get the math key.

932
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:06,279
Speaker 1: In their sleep five stewish him down, booking up out

933
00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:10,040
Speaker 1: of there. Oh, we did some damage, but you know

934
00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:14,640
Speaker 1: what Mike said, Hey, hey, I don't normally do this,

935
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:17,759
Speaker 1: but I know, you know, probably eighty four had something

936
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:18,320
Speaker 1: to do with it.

937
00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:24,319
Speaker 2: And this team or if there's some stuff popped off,

938
00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:29,320
Speaker 2: they already know. Fright, team building.

939
00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:39,439
Speaker 1: We got this cover. Oh we that dorm was a mess. Yes, yes,

940
00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:43,360
Speaker 1: because he got together them. Oo.

941
00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:45,719
Speaker 2: It's a part of it. We the Ron Gold.

942
00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:47,640
Speaker 6: Yeah, most definitely, most definitely.

943
00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:51,200
Speaker 1: That's what I missed, O Joe. See, that's what I missed,

944
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:54,759
Speaker 1: the fun, That's what I missed. The talent show, like

945
00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:57,200
Speaker 1: we did, y'all have a talent show, like the rookies

946
00:44:57,280 --> 00:44:58,239
Speaker 1: had to put on the talent show.

947
00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:01,319
Speaker 6: No, but hey, listen that that hard knock y'all had.

948
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:04,080
Speaker 2: Yes, so we did that talent show.

949
00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:08,799
Speaker 4: Boy when when Buddy did ray Lewis and Buddy did

950
00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:10,120
Speaker 4: and uh, Buddy did you?

951
00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:14,000
Speaker 6: I was in tears.

952
00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:16,600
Speaker 4: I'm talking about in tears, crying.

953
00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:19,440
Speaker 2: Good that we have we have.

954
00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:21,080
Speaker 1: We had a talent show, we have a Telor show

955
00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:24,919
Speaker 1: in uh in Denver. But I you know, like I said,

956
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:27,359
Speaker 1: I I ain't really know like I said, I mean,

957
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:29,480
Speaker 1: when I was in college, we didn't really do the

958
00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:31,840
Speaker 1: stuff like like like rookie stuff hazing.

959
00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:34,400
Speaker 2: They ain't cutting nobody hair and stuff like that. I mean,

960
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:35,200
Speaker 2: I'm trying to think what.

961
00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:39,040
Speaker 1: We did to the rookies cause they got me. I mean,

962
00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:40,680
Speaker 1: it was it was all all fun. Like I said,

963
00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:42,880
Speaker 1: I don't want to let nobody cut my hair, you

964
00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:43,439
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying.

965
00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:43,960
Speaker 2: And I ain't.

966
00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:46,200
Speaker 1: We wasn't doing anything to the meaning body. We want

967
00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:48,520
Speaker 1: to go cut your hairs and boobies just like that.

968
00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:50,719
Speaker 1: But I'm sure there was some things that we did,

969
00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:53,480
Speaker 1: but that was all a part of it. That's what

970
00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:55,719
Speaker 1: I missed. That's what I missed. If they could just

971
00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:57,279
Speaker 1: let me and I was like Mike, if I could

972
00:45:57,360 --> 00:45:59,200
Speaker 1: just go back, I ain't want to do meetings no more.

973
00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:01,360
Speaker 1: That's what really got me out of the league, the meetings.

974
00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:04,080
Speaker 1: I said, Mike, just let me practice, let me show

975
00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:07,919
Speaker 1: up to practice, Let me playing the games. Your boy,

976
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:12,279
Speaker 1: good boy, good, I would say, But uh, oh, Joe,

977
00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:14,239
Speaker 1: those to the days, bro, I wish I could get

978
00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:14,680
Speaker 1: those back.

979
00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:17,239
Speaker 2: I wish I could do that. Obviously I couldn't play anymore, but.

980
00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:18,920
Speaker 1: I just want to go hang around the team, just

981
00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:20,920
Speaker 1: go had not Now I'm just letting my guys what

982
00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:23,080
Speaker 1: I was like after I left, like three or four years.

983
00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:24,840
Speaker 1: I just want to go back because a lot of

984
00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:27,000
Speaker 1: the guys that I played with were still playing. Man,

985
00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:28,600
Speaker 1: I said, Man, I wish I could just go back there.

986
00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:30,440
Speaker 1: They're like sharp, Man, it ain't the same without you

987
00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:32,839
Speaker 1: because you, oh Joe, you know, I can't it live now?

988
00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:33,200
Speaker 2: Yeah?

989
00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:35,520
Speaker 6: Yeah, oh yeah.

990
00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:46,560
Speaker 2: I guess it's even to attack the messenger instead of

991
00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:47,600
Speaker 2: digest the message.

992
00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:51,920
Speaker 9: Why do players because sometimes they wrong with the criticism.

993
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:56,200
Speaker 9: Sometimes the criticism is not warranted. Sometimes you criticizing based

994
00:46:56,239 --> 00:46:57,560
Speaker 9: off your insecurities.

995
00:46:58,120 --> 00:47:00,160
Speaker 2: Don't do that. Yeah, don't do that.

996
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:04,799
Speaker 9: Yeah, criticize, criticized, but not based off what you saying

997
00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:07,000
Speaker 9: you would have done, because you don't have the ability

998
00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:09,600
Speaker 9: to do with that would have been done. So that's

999
00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:10,840
Speaker 9: my problem, right criticism.

1000
00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:15,640
Speaker 1: I look at it like this, when before this social

1001
00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:18,920
Speaker 1: media blew up time, what we would ask of people

1002
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:21,799
Speaker 1: that was critiquing us, Okay, did you play?

1003
00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:23,880
Speaker 2: They all these players.

1004
00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:26,879
Speaker 1: Now is like they wanted someone that actually played the game,

1005
00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:29,759
Speaker 1: that had an intimate knowledge of the game, to know

1006
00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:31,239
Speaker 1: what it's like to be in the locker room, to

1007
00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:32,719
Speaker 1: know what it's like to be in the toddle, to

1008
00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:35,200
Speaker 1: know what it be like in the feel and feel that. Okay,

1009
00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:38,359
Speaker 1: so now, and then when they got that, they said, well,

1010
00:47:38,520 --> 00:47:41,720
Speaker 1: you didn't win anything. So now when I critique a player,

1011
00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:44,440
Speaker 1: not only did I win at the highest level, I

1012
00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:47,720
Speaker 1: won multiple times. Not only did I win multiple times,

1013
00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:51,279
Speaker 1: I got the ultimate validation by being selected in camp.

1014
00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:54,520
Speaker 1: So now would it, Oh, you jealous? You mad because

1015
00:47:54,560 --> 00:47:56,919
Speaker 1: you didn't make as much money. I made a damn

1016
00:47:57,000 --> 00:47:59,879
Speaker 1: lot of money for tight ends when I played time

1017
00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:03,680
Speaker 1: change Inflation. Okay, guys are making money. I get nothing.

1018
00:48:04,040 --> 00:48:06,960
Speaker 1: You asked me to give you my honest assessment. When

1019
00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:09,320
Speaker 1: I give it to you, you don't like it because

1020
00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:10,719
Speaker 1: I critique your favorite play.

1021
00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:13,239
Speaker 2: Amen. So I don't understand how.

1022
00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:15,920
Speaker 5: We I think I think it's a different era when

1023
00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:18,240
Speaker 5: a different era, and I think it's more so delivery.

1024
00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:20,879
Speaker 5: I think delivery is very very important, and the way

1025
00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:24,640
Speaker 5: we are critical and we analyze players, it will be

1026
00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:26,680
Speaker 5: seen regards to how you try to do it, it

1027
00:48:26,719 --> 00:48:29,359
Speaker 5: will be seen as hate because there's really no way

1028
00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:32,000
Speaker 5: to criticize a player without him feeling a certain way

1029
00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:32,360
Speaker 5: about it.

1030
00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:34,480
Speaker 6: And again, I talk with you.

1031
00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:37,440
Speaker 5: We talk about this all the time, Prime, and they

1032
00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:39,800
Speaker 5: get on me a lot about not being able to

1033
00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:42,719
Speaker 5: be critical of players when they don't play the way

1034
00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:43,200
Speaker 5: they should.

1035
00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:45,000
Speaker 4: And I always go back from a.

1036
00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:47,440
Speaker 5: Point of view of knowing what it's like to be

1037
00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:50,160
Speaker 5: them now opposed to being on the other side with

1038
00:48:50,239 --> 00:48:53,719
Speaker 5: the media. Now, it's very difficult for me to say

1039
00:48:54,280 --> 00:48:56,600
Speaker 5: he did A, B and C. But I'd rather say

1040
00:48:56,840 --> 00:48:59,480
Speaker 5: I'd rather talk about D, E and F on what

1041
00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:01,479
Speaker 5: he can do to make sure it doesn't happen again.

1042
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:04,160
Speaker 5: I don't even want to focus on the negative. I

1043
00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:05,600
Speaker 5: want to I don't want to be the problem. I

1044
00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:07,480
Speaker 5: want to tell you what the solution is so you

1045
00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:08,520
Speaker 5: don't play like that again.

1046
00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:11,120
Speaker 1: I like, I like, that's what but that's not what

1047
00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:13,880
Speaker 1: just But but that's not what happened. You got a

1048
00:49:13,880 --> 00:49:15,920
Speaker 1: critique on what you saw, not what you think. You're

1049
00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:16,680
Speaker 1: gonna get down.

1050
00:49:16,560 --> 00:49:17,080
Speaker 2: The road.

1051
00:49:18,719 --> 00:49:21,000
Speaker 9: That he's not like you know, Chad, They're gonna do that.

1052
00:49:21,040 --> 00:49:24,200
Speaker 9: He ain't gonna critique nobody. He ain't you know, Chad,

1053
00:49:24,560 --> 00:49:25,799
Speaker 9: he ain't be like that, Chad.

1054
00:49:26,360 --> 00:49:30,040
Speaker 2: Chad. Chad not want to be because he is. Chad

1055
00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:32,240
Speaker 2: is a good dude, and he he want to be loved.

1056
00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:34,960
Speaker 2: He just want to be Hell. You want to be

1057
00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:38,480
Speaker 2: what hell? I just want to be hell.

1058
00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:42,719
Speaker 6: I like criticism.

1059
00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:43,520
Speaker 2: You know, it's funny.

1060
00:49:43,600 --> 00:49:46,439
Speaker 6: Think about when I played I love.

1061
00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:48,560
Speaker 2: I want you to hate.

1062
00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:49,760
Speaker 4: I want you to talk trash.

1063
00:49:50,080 --> 00:49:52,160
Speaker 5: I want you to say bad things about me like

1064
00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:56,200
Speaker 5: I enjoyed it. I enjoyed the saying bad stuff like

1065
00:49:56,320 --> 00:49:59,240
Speaker 5: it's like it's dry. It lights somewhat of a fire,

1066
00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:02,000
Speaker 5: you know. And that's why to me, I don't understand

1067
00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:05,680
Speaker 5: why players care what the media says that should motivate you.

1068
00:50:06,200 --> 00:50:07,160
Speaker 2: You know, I like that.

1069
00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:11,359
Speaker 9: You can't expect people to be where you are. That's

1070
00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:13,160
Speaker 9: what I had to learn as a coach years ago.

1071
00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:15,760
Speaker 9: You can't expect people to be you. You can't expect

1072
00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:17,560
Speaker 9: people to feel like you, to think like you, to

1073
00:50:17,640 --> 00:50:21,799
Speaker 9: interpret things like you, to to to even fathom things

1074
00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:22,080
Speaker 9: like you.

1075
00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:24,279
Speaker 2: They ain't built like that. Check out, but make one

1076
00:50:24,280 --> 00:50:24,640
Speaker 2: of you. Man.

1077
00:50:25,640 --> 00:50:27,880
Speaker 6: We at the highest level. It's the NFL, though, and

1078
00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:29,240
Speaker 6: you know, think about.

1079
00:50:32,040 --> 00:50:32,520
Speaker 2: Let me finish.

1080
00:50:32,640 --> 00:50:35,120
Speaker 6: Let me get where I'm going to even get to the.

1081
00:50:35,160 --> 00:50:37,640
Speaker 5: Pinnacle of your childhood dream. You've had to be through

1082
00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:40,440
Speaker 5: some ship, You've had to go through some stuff, So

1083
00:50:40,640 --> 00:50:45,200
Speaker 5: anything being said in and or about you shouldn't.

1084
00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:45,480
Speaker 2: Even bother you.

1085
00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:48,759
Speaker 9: We just been talking about new audition. I said you

1086
00:50:48,840 --> 00:50:50,799
Speaker 9: about Brown, and I said he probably was.

1087
00:50:52,719 --> 00:50:53,000
Speaker 2: Prime.

1088
00:50:53,120 --> 00:50:53,600
Speaker 6: Don't do that.

1089
00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:54,800
Speaker 4: I was with you that, me and you.

1090
00:50:54,920 --> 00:50:57,279
Speaker 6: I was with you at nineteen ninety two, me and you.

1091
00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:02,680
Speaker 2: Lie. But anyway, that's a lie.

1092
00:51:02,840 --> 00:51:06,239
Speaker 1: But anyway, yo, guys, we've heard about pre We've heard

1093
00:51:06,239 --> 00:51:09,520
Speaker 1: about your pregame rituals, but what about your post game rituals?

1094
00:51:09,800 --> 00:51:11,840
Speaker 2: Did you have anything that you did time? Did you

1095
00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:12,360
Speaker 2: have anything?

1096
00:51:13,160 --> 00:51:17,360
Speaker 9: I always had migraines, Always had migraines, So controlling the

1097
00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:23,239
Speaker 9: migraine from being up and being fired up and just

1098
00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:25,919
Speaker 9: wanted to go get it that calming down period was tough.

1099
00:51:25,960 --> 00:51:27,120
Speaker 2: So I always had migraines.

1100
00:51:27,600 --> 00:51:30,280
Speaker 9: So on the plane ride back home, they was medicating

1101
00:51:30,320 --> 00:51:33,080
Speaker 9: me and trying to get me stuff and ice everywhere.

1102
00:51:33,640 --> 00:51:35,600
Speaker 9: I couldn't never do nothing at the games, so I

1103
00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:38,120
Speaker 9: always went to the crib straight homeship.

1104
00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:41,440
Speaker 5: My routine, after my routine, after every game in Cincinnati

1105
00:51:41,520 --> 00:51:44,120
Speaker 5: was always the same, win or lose, I'm going to

1106
00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:47,360
Speaker 5: j Alexander's in Hyde Park. I have a celebratory cigar.

1107
00:51:48,080 --> 00:51:51,120
Speaker 5: Win or lose, obviously forgetting out of game healthy.

1108
00:51:51,640 --> 00:51:52,120
Speaker 2: And that was it.

1109
00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:55,480
Speaker 5: I did the same thing every every after every game

1110
00:51:56,120 --> 00:51:59,879
Speaker 5: for a decade straight. And if the people, if Core

1111
00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:03,560
Speaker 5: Britt from Jay Alexander sees this, if y'all don't bring

1112
00:52:03,640 --> 00:52:05,520
Speaker 5: back them, goddamn honey butter biscuits.

1113
00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:11,200
Speaker 6: I know some honey butter croissants. Oh man, what.

1114
00:52:15,520 --> 00:52:18,680
Speaker 2: I normally just went home, I go get something occasionally

1115
00:52:19,520 --> 00:52:25,279
Speaker 2: something was it something you would got they want something

1116
00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:29,239
Speaker 2: that that that that that it was it? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1117
00:52:29,239 --> 00:52:31,160
Speaker 2: It wasn't nothing going on. My body was, man, you know,

1118
00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:34,200
Speaker 2: I was leaning going on time.

1119
00:52:34,239 --> 00:52:35,839
Speaker 1: It wasn't no fix going on. I would I wasn't

1120
00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:37,160
Speaker 1: gonna be able to do nothing of locked up on

1121
00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:40,359
Speaker 1: them and then you got it. I'd have to get

1122
00:52:40,360 --> 00:52:42,560
Speaker 1: an I V out like this there, so no we

1123
00:52:43,040 --> 00:52:45,080
Speaker 1: Occasionally I would go, we'd go out the guys, we'd

1124
00:52:45,120 --> 00:52:45,960
Speaker 1: go get something to eat.

1125
00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:48,359
Speaker 2: But most of the time I would call ahead get

1126
00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:48,680
Speaker 2: an order.

1127
00:52:48,719 --> 00:52:51,279
Speaker 1: Black There's this restaurant called Black Eyed p I would

1128
00:52:51,320 --> 00:52:56,600
Speaker 1: call ahead, get chicken, rice, broccoli, corn, two two week rolls,

1129
00:52:57,320 --> 00:53:00,680
Speaker 1: and and and and and eliminated is eating.

1130
00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:02,760
Speaker 4: Man, I have a quick prime. Did you eat healthy

1131
00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:03,880
Speaker 4: when you play? No?

1132
00:53:04,160 --> 00:53:07,640
Speaker 2: Thank you, man, you so I was so ignorant in Atlanta.

1133
00:53:07,880 --> 00:53:10,279
Speaker 9: I had soul food catered for lunch for everybody, for

1134
00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:13,320
Speaker 9: the whole team. Man, you collar greens and rice and

1135
00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:17,120
Speaker 9: black eyed baked chicken. We din't eat it for lunch.

1136
00:53:17,160 --> 00:53:18,759
Speaker 9: Didn't go out there the practice. I was like, man,

1137
00:53:18,800 --> 00:53:19,360
Speaker 9: we all lovest that.

1138
00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:21,160
Speaker 6: Man, Man, thank you know what?

1139
00:53:22,040 --> 00:53:23,680
Speaker 2: But all I would do, y'all eat that. I'm going

1140
00:53:23,719 --> 00:53:25,000
Speaker 2: to I appreciate that.

1141
00:53:25,040 --> 00:53:27,359
Speaker 5: I'm glad I did because I've been trying. I've been

1142
00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:30,239
Speaker 5: telling people for thirty some years. They don't listen to me.

1143
00:53:30,640 --> 00:53:31,040
Speaker 4: No I did.

1144
00:53:31,560 --> 00:53:33,880
Speaker 2: I wish I had it, though I wish I had it.

1145
00:53:34,320 --> 00:53:38,920
Speaker 2: I wish I had always stayed in shap but I

1146
00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:40,520
Speaker 2: didn't eat right right.

1147
00:53:40,640 --> 00:53:42,600
Speaker 4: I didn't eat right either, and I always stayed in shape.

1148
00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:45,399
Speaker 9: So but you you you you a freak genetically dog

1149
00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:47,479
Speaker 9: you you could eat whatever you want. You still gonna

1150
00:53:47,480 --> 00:53:47,879
Speaker 9: stay lean.

1151
00:53:48,200 --> 00:53:50,279
Speaker 4: But but you know I still but I worked like

1152
00:53:50,320 --> 00:53:52,279
Speaker 4: a mad man. I'm still working like a mad man.

1153
00:53:52,320 --> 00:53:56,399
Speaker 2: I ain't got you just you're gonna always be lean.

1154
00:53:56,520 --> 00:53:57,960
Speaker 2: That's your jeans, that's just you.

1155
00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:00,160
Speaker 1: You never and you you don't. You don't have the

1156
00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:03,760
Speaker 1: disposition to put on away. You're not gonna be two fifty.

1157
00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:05,759
Speaker 1: You're not gonna be three hundred, Joe. That's not your

1158
00:54:05,800 --> 00:54:08,360
Speaker 1: body frame. Look out marriage twenty. You see how your shoulders.

1159
00:54:08,560 --> 00:54:12,040
Speaker 1: You don't him I'm not now, I'm two twenty. What

1160
00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:13,160
Speaker 1: are you talking about now?

1161
00:54:13,560 --> 00:54:16,399
Speaker 2: Look, No, you've never been. You never did two hundred

1162
00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:19,040
Speaker 2: in your life. Hey, yeah, I'm too twenty right now,

1163
00:54:19,120 --> 00:54:25,439
Speaker 2: You've never been. You've never been. You know, I don't

1164
00:54:25,480 --> 00:54:27,080
Speaker 2: think you've ever hit two hundred in your life.

1165
00:54:27,120 --> 00:54:31,640
Speaker 1: Hey, No, never hell Hey hey, Prad, you know how

1166
00:54:31,680 --> 00:54:33,360
Speaker 1: they used to have in the NFL experience.

1167
00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:35,480
Speaker 2: They had that jersey and the little kid go stick

1168
00:54:35,560 --> 00:54:38,000
Speaker 2: the head of that bag and you see little body Hagar.

1169
00:54:38,280 --> 00:54:42,719
Speaker 2: That's what rip though. He always been read it grip now,

1170
00:54:43,080 --> 00:54:45,600
Speaker 2: I'm ripping. You've always been. You've always been that way.

1171
00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:47,120
Speaker 6: Ye don't don't don't play.

1172
00:54:48,239 --> 00:54:51,560
Speaker 2: I won't say this. My brother and I have never

1173
00:54:51,840 --> 00:54:53,319
Speaker 2: had a fight. Now.

1174
00:54:53,400 --> 00:54:55,640
Speaker 8: He used to cheat and I used to beat him down,

1175
00:54:56,920 --> 00:55:00,200
Speaker 8: but we never had a fight. The only time my

1176
00:55:00,400 --> 00:55:04,719
Speaker 8: brother told me what he wasn't going to do was

1177
00:55:04,800 --> 00:55:07,080
Speaker 8: that he wasn't going to go to Savannah State College.

1178
00:55:08,920 --> 00:55:11,160
Speaker 8: And I said, that's good, because I'm on the way.

1179
00:55:11,920 --> 00:55:14,360
Speaker 8: I'm leaving Columbia. I was at school at South Carolina.

1180
00:55:14,719 --> 00:55:17,920
Speaker 8: I'm leaving, bro, You're not going to the Army. That's

1181
00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:21,080
Speaker 8: not going to happen. The only time he and I

1182
00:55:21,239 --> 00:55:25,120
Speaker 8: ever had a disagreement. I have never, in my fifty

1183
00:55:25,239 --> 00:55:27,400
Speaker 8: nine years on this earth, tried to be his father.

1184
00:55:28,719 --> 00:55:32,239
Speaker 8: But we were always taught that if you have to

1185
00:55:32,320 --> 00:55:35,760
Speaker 8: look past your own dinner table to find a role model,

1186
00:55:36,239 --> 00:55:41,280
Speaker 8: there's something going on in your home. I only wanted

1187
00:55:41,400 --> 00:55:49,799
Speaker 8: him Bobby Dandridge, his nickname was mister Clutch. We had

1188
00:55:50,239 --> 00:55:57,399
Speaker 8: Frank o'harris and Tony Dorset. I wanted him to look

1189
00:55:57,480 --> 00:56:01,640
Speaker 8: at his own dinner table and be like, remember, it's

1190
00:56:01,719 --> 00:56:04,520
Speaker 8: the shepherd and the sheep thing. I never told him

1191
00:56:04,560 --> 00:56:07,360
Speaker 8: what to do. I never tried to instruct him. I

1192
00:56:07,480 --> 00:56:13,480
Speaker 8: never led him. I lived my life. But the wonderful thing,

1193
00:56:13,840 --> 00:56:15,719
Speaker 8: and for those of you who have kids, you know this.

1194
00:56:16,160 --> 00:56:21,000
Speaker 8: The wonderful thing is he was watching and I am

1195
00:56:21,160 --> 00:56:24,440
Speaker 8: so proud. I'm proud of that guy right there, because

1196
00:56:25,640 --> 00:56:30,640
Speaker 8: I'm proud of Chad because the perception the persona and

1197
00:56:30,719 --> 00:56:33,879
Speaker 8: who he really is is actually two totally different people.

1198
00:56:34,600 --> 00:56:36,840
Speaker 8: You don't realize how hard it is for him to

1199
00:56:36,880 --> 00:56:40,880
Speaker 8: come out here and do that. That ain't who he is,

1200
00:56:42,239 --> 00:56:44,400
Speaker 8: That is not who he is. I'm ruining it for

1201
00:56:44,560 --> 00:56:45,400
Speaker 8: you and.

1202
00:56:45,560 --> 00:56:47,239
Speaker 2: For him to.

1203
00:56:47,920 --> 00:56:51,360
Speaker 8: He didn't go through anything. He's led by a higher

1204
00:56:51,520 --> 00:56:53,239
Speaker 8: power that put him where he.

1205
00:56:53,320 --> 00:56:53,800
Speaker 2: Wanted to be.

1206
00:56:54,520 --> 00:56:57,279
Speaker 8: And what he went through on TV, he needed to

1207
00:56:57,360 --> 00:57:01,000
Speaker 8: go through that so he could get here. And sometimes

1208
00:57:06,160 --> 00:57:09,880
Speaker 8: many many times in a family, you go through things

1209
00:57:09,960 --> 00:57:14,000
Speaker 8: that are hurtful. But he had to go through that

1210
00:57:14,200 --> 00:57:17,360
Speaker 8: to get to hear and he had to be here

1211
00:57:17,480 --> 00:57:20,720
Speaker 8: to get him. And those two together are doing some

1212
00:57:21,000 --> 00:57:26,160
Speaker 8: really good stuff. They're fun to watch. They they talk

1213
00:57:26,240 --> 00:57:32,360
Speaker 8: about really good things. Not the antal part, but they

1214
00:57:32,480 --> 00:57:34,800
Speaker 8: talk about really good things. And I'm very proud of

1215
00:57:34,840 --> 00:57:39,080
Speaker 8: both of them. When we did the same things. When

1216
00:57:39,160 --> 00:57:41,440
Speaker 8: we both played football, we could talk football. When we

1217
00:57:41,520 --> 00:57:44,600
Speaker 8: both did TV, we could talk TV. I played golf,

1218
00:57:44,760 --> 00:57:47,360
Speaker 8: he doesn't. So we don't have anything in common right now,

1219
00:57:49,040 --> 00:57:51,560
Speaker 8: but we can still find out how each one of

1220
00:57:51,680 --> 00:57:55,040
Speaker 8: us how we're doing. And I'm very proud of how

1221
00:57:55,120 --> 00:58:00,760
Speaker 8: he handled the Skip situation. He almost all most lost it.

1222
00:58:03,400 --> 00:58:10,680
Speaker 8: The the the Afro American almost came out. I know

1223
00:58:10,880 --> 00:58:13,520
Speaker 8: you saw it when the glasses went on the table, Stap,

1224
00:58:13,800 --> 00:58:16,880
Speaker 8: I'm in the Afrot Hall of Fame. I was like,

1225
00:58:19,520 --> 00:58:22,960
Speaker 8: I said to myself, that is the end of the

1226
00:58:23,080 --> 00:58:28,360
Speaker 8: Sharps on TV. That's it, because I knew what was

1227
00:58:28,480 --> 00:58:32,360
Speaker 8: gonna come next. And I was like, Skip, I hope

1228
00:58:32,400 --> 00:58:36,919
Speaker 8: you can fight, But no, I say that in jest.

1229
00:58:37,080 --> 00:58:39,320
Speaker 8: I never did. I never thought he would lose control.

1230
00:58:39,480 --> 00:58:42,640
Speaker 8: I was really shocked that he yelled and screamed. But

1231
00:58:42,760 --> 00:58:45,520
Speaker 8: he yelled and screamed not because of what Skip said.

1232
00:58:46,200 --> 00:58:48,640
Speaker 8: He yelled and screamed because he was so hurt that

1233
00:58:48,800 --> 00:58:53,240
Speaker 8: he's someone he liked and trusted would say or do

1234
00:58:53,440 --> 00:58:56,160
Speaker 8: that to him, and he would never say this.

1235
00:58:56,520 --> 00:58:57,520
Speaker 2: I'm not on TV.

1236
00:58:57,760 --> 00:59:02,040
Speaker 8: I don't do anyone else's media at all except PGA

1237
00:59:02,120 --> 00:59:04,840
Speaker 8: Tour Golf. I go on their show, but I don't

1238
00:59:04,840 --> 00:59:08,360
Speaker 8: do anybody else. That's because you can't ask me about him,

1239
00:59:09,560 --> 00:59:13,320
Speaker 8: because I'm not going to give you anything about him.

1240
00:59:14,360 --> 00:59:15,800
Speaker 2: Do I like his success?

1241
00:59:16,080 --> 00:59:18,880
Speaker 8: You're gonna have to use your own imagination. Do I

1242
00:59:19,080 --> 00:59:21,360
Speaker 8: think he is doing the right thing. You're gonna have

1243
00:59:21,480 --> 00:59:25,840
Speaker 8: to use your imagination. I do not talk about him.

1244
00:59:27,160 --> 00:59:29,600
Speaker 8: Everybody goes when you're gonna be on Club Shay Shap,

1245
00:59:30,640 --> 00:59:31,120
Speaker 8: I was like.

1246
00:59:32,720 --> 00:59:33,720
Speaker 2: I was first.

1247
00:59:35,480 --> 00:59:39,920
Speaker 8: Before it became Club Shashee and Chad they were famous.

1248
00:59:40,760 --> 00:59:43,000
Speaker 8: I went on then because I was like, I see

1249
00:59:43,000 --> 00:59:45,560
Speaker 8: where this train going, and this is way before Cat William.

1250
00:59:46,200 --> 00:59:50,200
Speaker 2: I do not want to be anywhere near where this

1251
00:59:50,400 --> 00:59:51,040
Speaker 2: thing's going.

1252
00:59:51,480 --> 00:59:56,120
Speaker 8: So Club Shay and Nightcap, I can say this, this

1253
00:59:56,240 --> 00:59:58,320
Speaker 8: is probably the last time you will see me publicly

1254
01:00:00,680 --> 01:00:04,520
Speaker 8: because they're going in a totally different stratosphere. And I

1255
01:00:04,640 --> 01:00:08,440
Speaker 8: want to thank Cam Newton. I told Cam backstage I

1256
01:00:08,560 --> 01:00:13,600
Speaker 8: am very impressed by him because they are a lot alike.

1257
01:00:15,440 --> 01:00:18,280
Speaker 8: And you have to admit Cam is the largest human

1258
01:00:18,400 --> 01:00:19,360
Speaker 8: being you've ever seen.

1259
01:00:21,840 --> 01:00:22,760
Speaker 2: Dude. Its gigantic.

1260
01:00:23,400 --> 01:00:27,200
Speaker 1: You say you were disappointed that your former coach was there.

1261
01:00:27,200 --> 01:00:29,400
Speaker 1: When you got there, y'all came in together. If I'm

1262
01:00:29,440 --> 01:00:33,560
Speaker 1: not mistaken, Ron Rivera didn't call you when he was

1263
01:00:33,640 --> 01:00:37,120
Speaker 1: in Washington. Why did that upset you so much? That

1264
01:00:37,280 --> 01:00:41,240
Speaker 1: was my dog, Like we've been through so much. I

1265
01:00:41,360 --> 01:00:42,840
Speaker 1: always hear his voice on my head.

1266
01:00:42,960 --> 01:00:48,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, kiddo, you know man that, like I say this respectfully,

1267
01:00:51,360 --> 01:00:54,520
Speaker 2: he raised me and I raised him.

1268
01:00:57,360 --> 01:01:00,520
Speaker 7: He was a rookie head coach, I was a player.

1269
01:01:01,720 --> 01:01:05,200
Speaker 7: I was not going to allow him to fail in Carolina,

1270
01:01:05,280 --> 01:01:09,440
Speaker 7: not under my watch, because there's an oath and as

1271
01:01:10,280 --> 01:01:13,640
Speaker 7: it's just in us as athletes, that when somebody takes

1272
01:01:13,680 --> 01:01:15,960
Speaker 7: a chance on you, no matter what round it is,

1273
01:01:16,760 --> 01:01:22,760
Speaker 7: you feel obligated to give because they've no matter what

1274
01:01:22,840 --> 01:01:26,880
Speaker 7: you want to say, they've allowed you the opportunity to.

1275
01:01:26,960 --> 01:01:28,360
Speaker 2: Take care of your bloodline.

1276
01:01:30,160 --> 01:01:33,840
Speaker 7: So when what was happened or what had happened in

1277
01:01:33,920 --> 01:01:37,240
Speaker 7: Carolina with me and coach Vera, we had numerous talks

1278
01:01:37,320 --> 01:01:42,160
Speaker 7: and discussions about the game of football and about life.

1279
01:01:43,440 --> 01:01:46,480
Speaker 7: So when I was going through the transition of being

1280
01:01:46,640 --> 01:01:48,920
Speaker 7: out of Carolina, I was like, yo, at least I

1281
01:01:49,080 --> 01:01:52,480
Speaker 7: was damn coaching and it wasn't just him.

1282
01:01:52,600 --> 01:01:53,560
Speaker 2: See that's the thing.

1283
01:01:54,200 --> 01:01:56,640
Speaker 7: I can't blame a head coach because he may not

1284
01:01:56,800 --> 01:01:58,560
Speaker 7: have picking power.

1285
01:02:00,520 --> 01:02:03,120
Speaker 2: But Marty Hernie the same thing.

1286
01:02:03,280 --> 01:02:03,600
Speaker 1: He was.

1287
01:02:03,760 --> 01:02:09,000
Speaker 2: He drafted me right he was in DC and he

1288
01:02:09,120 --> 01:02:09,520
Speaker 2: said no.

1289
01:02:09,680 --> 01:02:12,840
Speaker 7: It's I'm gonna take it a step further. The head

1290
01:02:13,040 --> 01:02:17,440
Speaker 7: trainer that they had, Ryan Vermilion, was there nobody.

1291
01:02:17,760 --> 01:02:22,800
Speaker 2: So me going through this whole resurgence, like yo, like damn.

1292
01:02:23,520 --> 01:02:24,720
Speaker 6: I kept asking my agent.

1293
01:02:24,760 --> 01:02:29,560
Speaker 2: I'm like, Yo, they ain't call Washington, ain't called m

1294
01:02:31,160 --> 01:02:33,600
Speaker 2: know what's going on? So maybe you weren't as close

1295
01:02:33,640 --> 01:02:34,600
Speaker 2: as you previously thought.

1296
01:02:34,720 --> 01:02:38,120
Speaker 7: Man, I'm an action person, bro, I'm an action person,

1297
01:02:38,280 --> 01:02:39,600
Speaker 7: and I teach my children this.

1298
01:02:40,640 --> 01:02:40,840
Speaker 2: Man.

1299
01:02:41,000 --> 01:02:43,840
Speaker 7: I could tell you anything, but if I don't prove

1300
01:02:43,960 --> 01:02:45,160
Speaker 7: on a day to day basis that I.

1301
01:02:45,200 --> 01:02:48,200
Speaker 2: Love what I showed you, Oh, that don't mean nothing

1302
01:02:48,280 --> 01:02:50,640
Speaker 2: to me. Have you had a conversation with him? Have

1303
01:02:50,760 --> 01:02:53,400
Speaker 2: you spoken to him? No, sir, not like we said now,

1304
01:02:53,440 --> 01:02:54,160
Speaker 2: it's not no beef.

1305
01:02:54,200 --> 01:02:55,880
Speaker 7: And I don't want nobody to kind of take what

1306
01:02:56,000 --> 01:02:58,520
Speaker 7: I'm saying is that I'm angry because there was a

1307
01:02:58,600 --> 01:03:01,160
Speaker 7: business decision that has to be and I was and

1308
01:03:01,320 --> 01:03:05,600
Speaker 7: I knew I was coming off a shoulder injury. Is

1309
01:03:05,920 --> 01:03:08,520
Speaker 7: that that's all it was. It was like for me

1310
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Speaker 7: to just say, hey, kiddo, how you doing, Hey, how

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Speaker 7: you feeling? Though, let's come up here for a physical

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Speaker 7: let me really a deep That's that's the relationship we had.

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Speaker 7: And it was the things And I told Coach r Vera,

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Speaker 7: I was like, Yo, this was in Carolina. I was like,

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Speaker 7: in any short yarded situation, coach, give me the fucking ball,

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Speaker 7: the volume