1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:03,120 Speaker 1: Welcome to Cannabis Talk one on one featuring Blue with 2 00:00:03,279 --> 00:00:06,880 Speaker 1: Joe Brande, the world's number one source for everything cannabis. 3 00:00:06,920 --> 00:00:08,880 Speaker 1: Welcome to Cannabis Talk one on one, the world's number 4 00:00:08,880 --> 00:00:11,200 Speaker 1: one source for everything cannabis with Blue and Joe Grande. 5 00:00:11,200 --> 00:00:13,080 Speaker 1: And thank you for listening to our podcasts all around 6 00:00:13,080 --> 00:00:14,920 Speaker 1: the world. 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They have been launching brands 17 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:43,080 Speaker 1: in California since twenty fifteen. And at the Bear Flag Group, 18 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:45,159 Speaker 1: they do what they say they're gonna do. Make sure 19 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:47,880 Speaker 1: you check them out online at Bear Flaggroup dot com. 20 00:00:48,080 --> 00:00:50,200 Speaker 1: Now we've got a very special show today you guys. 21 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:52,840 Speaker 1: We've got a couple from Texas that's on the line 22 00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:56,640 Speaker 1: with me. Piper, who is the corporate development manager for 23 00:00:56,720 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 1: Americans for Safe Access with the Masters and Medical Cannabis Now. 24 00:01:01,360 --> 00:01:04,760 Speaker 1: She became an advocate for medical cannabis after seeing remarkable 25 00:01:04,800 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 1: results for one of her sons. And then we have 26 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:11,720 Speaker 1: her husband, Brian Lyndon, who also has been a cannabis 27 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:16,200 Speaker 1: caregiver and advocate since twenty thirteen. He frequently attends cannabis 28 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:19,440 Speaker 1: events as a volunteer for Americans for Safe Access as 29 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:21,679 Speaker 1: well and does this thing with them. Then we have 30 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 1: Miss Mary Catherine Sean Jizy. Did I get that right again? 31 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:34,119 Speaker 1: Mary are always funny about joke. M Zizi. Okay, there 32 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:37,280 Speaker 1: we go, she said it right. I don't Elevations Nations 33 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:39,960 Speaker 1: is what she's representing. It's a great place to go 34 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:41,840 Speaker 1: out there if you're looking for a great hotel to 35 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:44,280 Speaker 1: smoke at an organization. They have the best hotels in 36 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 1: Arizona for fun. They're opening up in Vegas all over 37 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:50,600 Speaker 1: the place. Of course, I'm getting calls and I don't 38 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 1: have my volume down because I'm on it right now. 39 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 1: But we have her jumping on I'm sorry about that, everybody. 40 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:58,360 Speaker 1: And she's, like I said, the VP of business development 41 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:00,920 Speaker 1: for them, and she comes from a medical side, a 42 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:03,760 Speaker 1: huge background from the medical side of cannabis for decades, 43 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:05,560 Speaker 1: and that's why we have her on the show today. 44 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 1: I'm gonna explain how and why, and she's gonna explain 45 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:10,880 Speaker 1: what she's done. What we're doing here is I got 46 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:14,239 Speaker 1: an email, folks from Piper, who I met in Vegas, 47 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:17,360 Speaker 1: and I had a great conversation with Piper in Vegas, 48 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 1: which was awesome, and I want to welcome you guys 49 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 1: all to the show. First off, here's a big round 50 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:22,920 Speaker 1: of applause for you guys, thank you so much, as 51 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:26,079 Speaker 1: we're doing the great Zoom interview. But Piper and I 52 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:29,359 Speaker 1: met in Vegas and had an amazing conversation. She sent 53 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 1: me an email thanked me for a great conversation, and 54 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:34,200 Speaker 1: I think they're back, and we've just been having dialogue 55 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:37,120 Speaker 1: ever since, and we've seen each other at many cannabis events. 56 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 1: And then she recently hit me with an email regarding 57 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:43,840 Speaker 1: her sixteen year old son, who is smoking cannabis and 58 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 1: dabbing now and doing a lot of things that she 59 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:51,799 Speaker 1: feels might not be appropriate and was wondering if we 60 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 1: can cover the topic on the show, and Mary, I 61 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:58,080 Speaker 1: called you right away because I remember as we interviewed 62 00:02:58,120 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 1: you and then having conversations with you with your clinical 63 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:04,480 Speaker 1: background in cannabis, going, isn't this something that's right up 64 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 1: your alley? And then before you know, we all kind 65 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 1: of knew each other from the grape vine and everything else. 66 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:11,480 Speaker 1: So tell us real quick, Mary, about your clinical background 67 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:13,480 Speaker 1: and what you do and how this is kind of 68 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:17,399 Speaker 1: right up your alley. Sure, well, thanks so much, first 69 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:19,120 Speaker 1: of all for having me on again. You guys are 70 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:22,760 Speaker 1: just fantastic, and Piper, it's been wonderful to connect with 71 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:25,600 Speaker 1: you on this platform. I know we've crossed paths in 72 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:30,000 Speaker 1: our lives before, but so I started out in medical cannabis. 73 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 1: I was in elementary school vice principle and I was 74 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 1: working working with kids and looking at what we could 75 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 1: address in the classroom to offset the impacts of pharmaceuticals. 76 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:44,040 Speaker 1: And when I was pursuing a PhD in that we 77 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:47,640 Speaker 1: found that studies had really been occurring on cannabis, and 78 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:49,920 Speaker 1: as a consumer myself, I really wanted to start to 79 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:55,120 Speaker 1: put the dots together. And this was eighteen years ago. 80 00:03:55,160 --> 00:03:56,760 Speaker 1: So it was a long time ago that you know, 81 00:03:56,880 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 1: I was really starting to get into this kind of stuff. 82 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 1: And so in Washington State, in the medical program, one 83 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 1: thing that was not being addressed was pediatrics and children's 84 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 1: use in cannabis post for medical and what's happening now 85 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:14,840 Speaker 1: and recreational. So as one of the original co founders 86 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:18,360 Speaker 1: of AIMS Institute in Seattle, we started working with patients, 87 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:22,360 Speaker 1: started out with oncology, pediatric neurology, and then we started 88 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 1: getting patients coming in that we're just looking for day 89 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:28,320 Speaker 1: to day insight on how to apply cannabis as a 90 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:30,600 Speaker 1: therapeutic agent, but also just how to deal with the 91 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:32,920 Speaker 1: use of cannabis in their life or their loves one's lives. 92 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:36,760 Speaker 1: So and doing all of that. Being down in Arizona, 93 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 1: I saw Cannabis Friendly Hotel and thought, you know what, 94 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 1: this is where I want to start talking to people 95 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 1: on an open platform before they get to the clinic, 96 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:48,600 Speaker 1: right before it's that point. Let's talk about cannabis use 97 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:51,279 Speaker 1: in general. Let's talk about it in infused dinners. Let's 98 00:04:51,320 --> 00:04:53,800 Speaker 1: talk about it, you know, in a fun setting so 99 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 1: that it's easily the information is easily absorbed because when 100 00:04:57,000 --> 00:04:59,080 Speaker 1: you're in a clinical setting, you're at that point right 101 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:03,200 Speaker 1: where you really need help and you're not necessarily thinking 102 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 1: pragmatically about a lot of different things. So this is 103 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:08,479 Speaker 1: why I love getting to do this kind of stuff 104 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:09,920 Speaker 1: with you guys, because we get to marry it all 105 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:13,039 Speaker 1: together and with what's happening in parallel industries. It's important, 106 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 1: it is, and you know, you having this medical background 107 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:17,920 Speaker 1: and dealing with children and this and that. And even 108 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 1: though Brian and Piper's son is sixteen and I got 109 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:23,680 Speaker 1: that email, I was like, maybe this is something that 110 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:27,800 Speaker 1: you could listen to and incorporate your professional experiences and 111 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:30,600 Speaker 1: the data that you have to back all this and 112 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:33,720 Speaker 1: that all being said, Brian and Piper before we get 113 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:36,840 Speaker 1: into your son that's sixteen, I believe you guys have. 114 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:40,520 Speaker 1: It's funny because you guys are advocates for cannabis right 115 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:42,839 Speaker 1: like you guys are strong believers in it. You first 116 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:44,719 Speaker 1: seen it, if I'm not mistaken, with your older son, 117 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:46,760 Speaker 1: and I'd like for you guys to share that story 118 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:48,800 Speaker 1: of how much you guys believe in the plant and 119 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:54,160 Speaker 1: how you guys found it working so well with your boys. Well, 120 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:57,800 Speaker 1: we haven't experiences, I guess with cannabis longer than for 121 00:05:57,920 --> 00:06:00,360 Speaker 1: our son, but I don't know. For me. That's when 122 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:04,440 Speaker 1: my true love for cannabis developed, when I saw what 123 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:06,360 Speaker 1: it could what it could do for my son with 124 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 1: his severe epilepsy, has lenox guesto syndrome and so. UM, 125 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:14,679 Speaker 1: it was remarkable what we saw for him, but also 126 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:23,040 Speaker 1: so complicated and understood that he needed specific strains, and 127 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:26,800 Speaker 1: so I went and pursued the master's degree to see, um, 128 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:31,520 Speaker 1: see if I could understand more about cannabis UM at 129 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:36,360 Speaker 1: University of Maryland School of Pharmacy, the MCST program and UM, 130 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:40,120 Speaker 1: so I've got a little bit of clinical background too 131 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:46,800 Speaker 1: with cannabis, but part of that was understanding that there's 132 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:52,039 Speaker 1: risks also, you know, with cannabis used disorder, with cannabis, 133 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:57,040 Speaker 1: hypoemesis syndrome, with psychosis and uh, you know, with all 134 00:06:57,120 --> 00:07:02,080 Speaker 1: of those things, it's most dependent. Really, so when our 135 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:07,520 Speaker 1: older sons started using uh cannabis as dabs or as 136 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 1: live resin, you know, it was a concern for me. 137 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:13,240 Speaker 1: We have we have risk factors in our family. And 138 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 1: UM he's also been expressing that he feels he feels paranoid, 139 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:25,680 Speaker 1: and you know, I know, frankly, I know tons of 140 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:29,600 Speaker 1: people who have quit smoking cannabis because of feelings of 141 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 1: paranoia that they they're not happy with. And so, I 142 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 1: mean all of us kind of know this, and um, 143 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:41,120 Speaker 1: somehow as advocates, you know, we're so busy trying to 144 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 1: remove the stigma with cannabis, uh that that we're I 145 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 1: feel like we're not addressing sufficiently that that there are 146 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:51,840 Speaker 1: risks and you know, they're not as huge as the 147 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:56,560 Speaker 1: risks that we've been told for the past century, but 148 00:07:57,680 --> 00:08:00,320 Speaker 1: ignoring them isn't going to make them go away. We 149 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:02,120 Speaker 1: need to have some way to address them. And I 150 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:05,920 Speaker 1: just wanted to have start the conversations well, or have 151 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:09,400 Speaker 1: the conversations. I'm sure there's people somewhere having these conversations already, 152 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:14,320 Speaker 1: but I appreciate you Joe and Mary for taking part 153 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:17,200 Speaker 1: in these conversations and being eager to talk about this 154 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:21,840 Speaker 1: because it is something we need, We need some sort 155 00:08:21,880 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 1: of trusted I mean, it's advocacy still advocacy to the 156 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:32,320 Speaker 1: public about the risks that there may be for some people. 157 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:36,880 Speaker 1: So and not only risks, but you know, it's taboo 158 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:38,880 Speaker 1: and a lot of people's homes and a lot of 159 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:40,880 Speaker 1: people think, you know, oh my god, I don't want 160 00:08:40,920 --> 00:08:42,280 Speaker 1: to have my kid do it. But then when you're 161 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:45,800 Speaker 1: looking for medicine to help treat, you know, whatever it 162 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:48,120 Speaker 1: is that your child is going through, boy or girl, 163 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:50,720 Speaker 1: You're going to do anything you can as a parent 164 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:53,920 Speaker 1: to help them. And I'm sure you and Brian were 165 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:56,760 Speaker 1: doing whatever you can. And once you realize that cannabis 166 00:08:57,080 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 1: was the you know, an option. And I'm curious Brian 167 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 1: for you, you know, as I read that you're a 168 00:09:02,559 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 1: helper with this and you know started joining in twenty thirteen. 169 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:08,920 Speaker 1: Was it easy for you to jump on board with it? 170 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:11,000 Speaker 1: Was it hard for you as the dad and your 171 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:17,559 Speaker 1: boys are now doing cannabis? Where did you stand with this? No, 172 00:09:17,760 --> 00:09:21,480 Speaker 1: it wasn't easy for me at all. I m well, 173 00:09:21,559 --> 00:09:25,240 Speaker 1: and our youngest son's act is the first um is 174 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:30,920 Speaker 1: the first adolescent. And also keeping in mind we are 175 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:34,280 Speaker 1: in Texas. It's a little bit, not a little it's 176 00:09:34,280 --> 00:09:38,080 Speaker 1: a lot different, okay, you know, going out to Phoenix 177 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:42,760 Speaker 1: and looking for a hotel that's you know, friendly, I 178 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:46,000 Speaker 1: noticed how different it is. I feel like some people 179 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:48,360 Speaker 1: from out in the West Coast should come stay about 180 00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:52,000 Speaker 1: a week or two and just experience the differences. You know, 181 00:09:52,520 --> 00:09:55,719 Speaker 1: it's really incredible to me the way it's viewed and 182 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:59,480 Speaker 1: the way things are looked at. But back to my 183 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:03,840 Speaker 1: youngest this was what seven, about nine years nine years ago, 184 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:07,520 Speaker 1: so at the time he was entering kindergarten, I suppose 185 00:10:07,679 --> 00:10:10,959 Speaker 1: he was between and nine years ago in Texas. It 186 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:15,240 Speaker 1: certainly was not like it is today. And I don't 187 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:20,440 Speaker 1: know how much we Basically I was ready to part 188 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:23,400 Speaker 1: ways with Piper when it came down to her thinking 189 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:27,680 Speaker 1: we could give this tincture we found on the internet. 190 00:10:28,040 --> 00:10:30,120 Speaker 1: We can make it out of this weed I bought 191 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:33,880 Speaker 1: from somebody because I've been a closet smoker since I 192 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:38,199 Speaker 1: don't know, twelve fourteen. Okay, but I'm not. I was 193 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:43,520 Speaker 1: not okay giving us medicating our son. There's CPS. There's 194 00:10:43,520 --> 00:10:46,360 Speaker 1: lots of things that alarmed me. And one of the 195 00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:50,920 Speaker 1: things to think about is if CPS was to show up, 196 00:10:51,400 --> 00:10:54,480 Speaker 1: we have a son that's They were suggesting brain surgery, 197 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:58,079 Speaker 1: removing the scalp. Check with the EG to see. I'm 198 00:10:58,120 --> 00:11:00,199 Speaker 1: not sure if it's called a lobotomy, if it's any where, 199 00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:03,360 Speaker 1: but to remove a part of the brain, and it's 200 00:11:03,400 --> 00:11:06,000 Speaker 1: a fifty fifty chance that it's actually going to work. 201 00:11:06,040 --> 00:11:09,760 Speaker 1: It's another fifty fifty chance being in his frontal lobe 202 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:13,400 Speaker 1: that his executive function and these things, he may it 203 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:15,679 Speaker 1: may lose his ability to speak if if they do this. 204 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:18,040 Speaker 1: That was also part of it. And then they thought 205 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:20,040 Speaker 1: for sure, with all the medication he was taking that 206 00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:23,120 Speaker 1: was over that was prescribed, that he would end up 207 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:26,360 Speaker 1: with liver failure or kidney failure at some point because 208 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:29,640 Speaker 1: he's just taking it for so so long. But not 209 00:11:29,760 --> 00:11:33,320 Speaker 1: only that, he's he was still having you know, two 210 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:39,640 Speaker 1: to six you know, major grandmall seizures daily, and if 211 00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 1: he's taking a lot of the prescribe medication and he's 212 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:44,199 Speaker 1: sort of I think the work I was using his 213 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:46,319 Speaker 1: catatonic but you know it's sort of like his zombie 214 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:51,040 Speaker 1: just they're you know, because of the medication and the seizures. 215 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:54,040 Speaker 1: You know. So when they suggested that and they told 216 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:56,959 Speaker 1: me the odds is when you know, said, you know, 217 00:11:57,000 --> 00:11:58,800 Speaker 1: I'm okay with this if you want to try that, 218 00:11:58,960 --> 00:12:03,439 Speaker 1: it finally onto me that here I'm literally considering cutting 219 00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:07,199 Speaker 1: a scalp BAF from moving it, and I'm not even 220 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:11,280 Speaker 1: willing to consider something else, you know, something else that 221 00:12:11,400 --> 00:12:14,240 Speaker 1: I know and I have done for many years, is 222 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:16,040 Speaker 1: not going to kill you. You know, it's not. It's 223 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:18,240 Speaker 1: not as bad as cutting your scalp off. You know, 224 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:22,040 Speaker 1: it would be an easy way to check and see 225 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:25,240 Speaker 1: if it works. And it did. It worked, and it 226 00:12:25,360 --> 00:12:29,640 Speaker 1: worked incredible, like to the point where I started wondering 227 00:12:29,679 --> 00:12:33,079 Speaker 1: if maybe maybe I miss maybe something it was just coincidence, 228 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:36,280 Speaker 1: to the point I could this have really worked like that? 229 00:12:36,880 --> 00:12:40,160 Speaker 1: You know, it was incredible. And the main thing to 230 00:12:40,240 --> 00:12:46,640 Speaker 1: me was why on earth is there no neurologist an epileptologist. 231 00:12:46,920 --> 00:12:49,439 Speaker 1: There's only so many there's like nine or something in 232 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:52,240 Speaker 1: the country, or there were many years ago. But why 233 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:55,199 Speaker 1: on earth are they not even interested in trying this? 234 00:12:55,640 --> 00:12:57,400 Speaker 1: I mean, is it Do they all feel like it's 235 00:12:57,480 --> 00:13:00,520 Speaker 1: just so seemed so far fetched that it's a waste 236 00:13:00,559 --> 00:13:05,200 Speaker 1: of the time or I don't really understand why. I mean, 237 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:06,720 Speaker 1: I get it there's a schedule, but you know there 238 00:13:06,760 --> 00:13:09,120 Speaker 1: was a schedule before she tried it too, all right, 239 00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:12,439 Speaker 1: So you know, Brian, I think I can shed a 240 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:14,319 Speaker 1: little bit of light on that. And first of all, 241 00:13:14,400 --> 00:13:17,599 Speaker 1: I mean, your story is amazing, and it's it's unfortunate 242 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:22,720 Speaker 1: because it's pretty common and and and that's that's why 243 00:13:22,760 --> 00:13:24,719 Speaker 1: we're all here today, right, is that we have so 244 00:13:25,040 --> 00:13:29,120 Speaker 1: many children, people in general, but children specifically that are 245 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:32,079 Speaker 1: in this position. We have parents in your position that 246 00:13:32,200 --> 00:13:35,439 Speaker 1: are asking the same question, why, right, why do you 247 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:38,160 Speaker 1: have to go through you know, potential, you know, a 248 00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:40,760 Speaker 1: marital disruption? Why do you have to deal with family 249 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:43,800 Speaker 1: members that are so anti because of the stigma when 250 00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:46,400 Speaker 1: we know and you were talking about nine years ago, 251 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:49,640 Speaker 1: it still exists. So I grew up in Georgia, right, 252 00:13:49,720 --> 00:13:52,520 Speaker 1: so I know exactly the stigma and everything that you 253 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:55,199 Speaker 1: guys are feeling. And as a mom of for myself, 254 00:13:56,200 --> 00:13:59,439 Speaker 1: you know, this is exactly why we're having this conversation. 255 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:02,880 Speaker 1: You get that information coming into our clinic and at 256 00:14:03,760 --> 00:14:06,959 Speaker 1: some point you're faced with the decision of do I 257 00:14:07,400 --> 00:14:11,560 Speaker 1: consider CPS? Do I consider You know this this terribly 258 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:14,720 Speaker 1: invasive surgery that only has a small percentage chance of working, 259 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:17,679 Speaker 1: and you know, what can we do with our children here? 260 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:20,840 Speaker 1: And I'm so glad you guys had, you know, the 261 00:14:21,040 --> 00:14:23,080 Speaker 1: ability to talk with each other. And Piper has a 262 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:26,240 Speaker 1: background that she has because it shouldn't have had to 263 00:14:26,520 --> 00:14:30,400 Speaker 1: gotten to that point, right, And it's the conversation that 264 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:33,760 Speaker 1: we have time and time and time again. And then 265 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:36,240 Speaker 1: when you do find something that works, you know, how 266 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:38,280 Speaker 1: how do we get it to the kids? What type 267 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:41,640 Speaker 1: of product can we recommend? Right? There's zero regulation and 268 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:45,120 Speaker 1: the recreational market on the medical perspective of it, and 269 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:48,760 Speaker 1: so you know, just just trying to talk with the 270 00:14:48,880 --> 00:14:52,520 Speaker 1: industry professionals to say, listen, you're actually creating medicine, right 271 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:55,240 Speaker 1: And and like you said, you get stuff online, you 272 00:14:55,280 --> 00:14:57,440 Speaker 1: can now get stuff in the stores, But at what 273 00:14:57,600 --> 00:15:00,760 Speaker 1: point are we going to really place merit this conversation 274 00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:03,360 Speaker 1: that we're having, all these other parents are having. And 275 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:07,160 Speaker 1: not only that, it's you know, the vulnerability of thinking, 276 00:15:08,080 --> 00:15:10,880 Speaker 1: the risk factor of everything you just describe, Brian, right, 277 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:13,960 Speaker 1: like there's a real fear. And we've heard of stories 278 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:15,920 Speaker 1: of people getting in trouble for doing what you did 279 00:15:15,960 --> 00:15:19,480 Speaker 1: and they might come after you guys for God's sakes, right, 280 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:22,160 Speaker 1: I mean you're in Texas where it's still not fully 281 00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:24,680 Speaker 1: legal like that, what did you do? And I appreciate 282 00:15:24,760 --> 00:15:27,560 Speaker 1: you guys' vulnerability on talking so openly about this. We're 283 00:15:27,560 --> 00:15:29,120 Speaker 1: gonna take a break real quick, We're gonna come back, 284 00:15:29,240 --> 00:15:32,160 Speaker 1: We're gonna continue talking about their son and what they're doing, 285 00:15:32,280 --> 00:15:34,680 Speaker 1: what they did. They started off as a youngster. He's 286 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:39,080 Speaker 1: now sixteen, right, am I mistaking sixteen? No, our younger 287 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:43,480 Speaker 1: one's fourteen fourteen? Oh wow, O younger one has Oh 288 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:45,400 Speaker 1: the younger one has the epilepsy. Okay, we're gonna get 289 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:46,680 Speaker 1: all the into that. We're gonna take a break. We'll 290 00:15:46,680 --> 00:15:49,760 Speaker 1: be right back. It's Kindabis Talk one oh one. Subscribe 291 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:52,960 Speaker 1: to our weekly newsletter on our website, Cannabi's Talk one 292 00:15:53,000 --> 00:16:05,360 Speaker 1: on one dot com. Welcome back to Cannabis one. Have 293 00:16:05,480 --> 00:16:07,880 Speaker 1: you guys seen the latest edition of the Cannabis Talk magazine? 294 00:16:07,880 --> 00:16:10,040 Speaker 1: You guys, If not, you gotta go get yourself a 295 00:16:10,120 --> 00:16:12,520 Speaker 1: copy to day check it out at your local dispension 296 00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:14,280 Speaker 1: or smoke shop near you. If they don't have one, 297 00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:16,800 Speaker 1: had them hit us up one eight twenty, nineteen eighty 298 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:18,960 Speaker 1: and order some copies, or just go check it out 299 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:22,840 Speaker 1: online at Cannabis Talk Magazine dot com and subscribe. Now, 300 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:26,400 Speaker 1: different type of show today, folks, an open dialogue conversation 301 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:30,400 Speaker 1: with Piper and Brian talking about their situation. Mary with 302 00:16:30,440 --> 00:16:34,040 Speaker 1: the clinical background and she's also on hospitality of course, 303 00:16:34,080 --> 00:16:38,400 Speaker 1: with elevation nations and continuing to talk about your guys's 304 00:16:38,480 --> 00:16:40,000 Speaker 1: son and what you guys had to do with this. 305 00:16:40,360 --> 00:16:44,000 Speaker 1: Did your son ever have to have that surgery? He 306 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:47,040 Speaker 1: actually wasn't a candidate for the surgery. So he has 307 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:51,960 Speaker 1: multifocal epilepsy where the seizures start in multiple areas, and 308 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:55,760 Speaker 1: then he also has a generalized epilepsy where it's indistinguishable 309 00:16:56,240 --> 00:16:58,960 Speaker 1: of the different areas, and so too many types of 310 00:16:59,040 --> 00:17:03,600 Speaker 1: seizures and those generalized can't be taking care of with uh. 311 00:17:04,320 --> 00:17:08,600 Speaker 1: I think it's called an epileptectomy. Uh, actually the name 312 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:10,720 Speaker 1: of the seizure. So they just removed the part of 313 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:12,800 Speaker 1: the brain where the seizures come from. So when there's 314 00:17:12,840 --> 00:17:15,760 Speaker 1: a lot of areas, then no, they don't they don't 315 00:17:15,840 --> 00:17:20,720 Speaker 1: do that surgery. Um, that decision is of course, yeah, 316 00:17:20,920 --> 00:17:27,480 Speaker 1: made it a lot easier the stressful thought. But but yeah, 317 00:17:27,520 --> 00:17:31,400 Speaker 1: I mean there's a lot of concerns, especially in Texas, 318 00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:35,679 Speaker 1: but I think still anywhere with being able to get reliable, 319 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:39,720 Speaker 1: consistent medication. And one of the things that with Americans 320 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:41,720 Speaker 1: for Safe Access and also I want to say real 321 00:17:41,800 --> 00:17:46,040 Speaker 1: quick that a lot of times people who volunteer for 322 00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:49,040 Speaker 1: Americans for Safe Access talk about their own opinions. And 323 00:17:49,119 --> 00:17:51,680 Speaker 1: that's what I'm doing here. I don't represent Americans for 324 00:17:51,720 --> 00:17:55,560 Speaker 1: safe access with what we're talking about. Um, but um, 325 00:17:56,640 --> 00:18:00,800 Speaker 1: the you know, the federal status just has to change 326 00:18:00,840 --> 00:18:03,879 Speaker 1: in order for us to be able to effectively treat 327 00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:08,000 Speaker 1: patients how they need to be treated. Even patients in 328 00:18:08,080 --> 00:18:14,440 Speaker 1: California don't really have access to consistently what they need them, 329 00:18:14,840 --> 00:18:18,160 Speaker 1: you know, professionals who know how to guide them through 330 00:18:18,359 --> 00:18:21,920 Speaker 1: choosing the right cannabis strain or chem of oar for 331 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:25,160 Speaker 1: what they're dealing with. We just haven't had the research 332 00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:27,760 Speaker 1: where you know, like what we know about cannabis is 333 00:18:27,800 --> 00:18:30,280 Speaker 1: really just the tip of the tip of the iceberg here. 334 00:18:30,440 --> 00:18:35,280 Speaker 1: So yeah, that's what's so crazy about it, Piper, because 335 00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:37,520 Speaker 1: as you say that, even if you think a place 336 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:40,320 Speaker 1: like California, but people listen to this show all around 337 00:18:40,320 --> 00:18:42,159 Speaker 1: the world, and everybody has children that are you know, 338 00:18:42,480 --> 00:18:44,520 Speaker 1: some all around the world that are going through something 339 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:48,160 Speaker 1: that could use and benefit from using cannabis as medicine. 340 00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:50,639 Speaker 1: And you have people like yourself, Piper, that go out 341 00:18:50,680 --> 00:18:53,480 Speaker 1: and educate yourself, people like Mary that open up a 342 00:18:53,520 --> 00:18:56,480 Speaker 1: clinic out there where she's at. But that advice isn't 343 00:18:56,600 --> 00:18:59,200 Speaker 1: freely open for everybody, and we don't have this exact 344 00:18:59,359 --> 00:19:02,240 Speaker 1: regime in yet of like, oh this is that it's 345 00:19:02,280 --> 00:19:04,439 Speaker 1: not this surgery. If you're gonna have that surgery, then 346 00:19:04,520 --> 00:19:07,200 Speaker 1: try these strains. We have a lot of anecdotal evidence 347 00:19:07,600 --> 00:19:10,560 Speaker 1: that is supporting what has got on and so for 348 00:19:10,760 --> 00:19:13,919 Speaker 1: your sons, like what has been working and what has 349 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:18,080 Speaker 1: been the regiment that you guys have followed. So I 350 00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:21,800 Speaker 1: started out making a THHDA tincture according to the epsolon 351 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:25,400 Speaker 1: Essentials recipe that I found in Tolk Signals magazine online, 352 00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:30,600 Speaker 1: but and found like the first strain that we used 353 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:33,000 Speaker 1: for him, I was pretty naive because the article said 354 00:19:33,040 --> 00:19:37,320 Speaker 1: any strain will work, and it worked, it was worked miraculously, 355 00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:41,840 Speaker 1: and then the next strain not so much. So we 356 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:43,399 Speaker 1: had to go through like a year and a half 357 00:19:43,680 --> 00:19:47,080 Speaker 1: of trial and error figuring out and it was like 358 00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:50,760 Speaker 1: a needle in a haystack, you know. And this is 359 00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:53,480 Speaker 1: one of the things I feel like is really heartbreaking 360 00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:56,679 Speaker 1: to watch other parents go through, because you know, as 361 00:19:56,880 --> 00:20:01,439 Speaker 1: as a family struggling with a child who has something 362 00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:04,359 Speaker 1: that's really severe that you're dealing with on a daily basis, 363 00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:07,639 Speaker 1: you do grasp that straws, and people are all the 364 00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:09,760 Speaker 1: time telling you you should try this, and you should 365 00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:12,920 Speaker 1: try this. And I see a lot of parents who try, 366 00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:16,560 Speaker 1: you know, a cannabis product once and you know, it 367 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:20,240 Speaker 1: all gets lumped in together where it's not all one thing. 368 00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:23,760 Speaker 1: And so I have that knowledge. We were so lucky 369 00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:26,960 Speaker 1: to have the first thing that worked work, or the 370 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:30,320 Speaker 1: first thing we tried work. And I see other people 371 00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:32,960 Speaker 1: try the first thing it doesn't work, and they're like, Okay, 372 00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:36,080 Speaker 1: that was just a you know, a pipe dream, snake oil, 373 00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:38,440 Speaker 1: and you know, and this is one of my fears 374 00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:42,080 Speaker 1: as an advocate. Well, I've got a lot of fears 375 00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:45,320 Speaker 1: as an advocate. We're not there yet with being able 376 00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:47,520 Speaker 1: to use cannabis as medicine. And so this is one 377 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:49,520 Speaker 1: of the things I spoke with my older son about, 378 00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:55,920 Speaker 1: you know, with people using cannabis in a way that 379 00:20:56,200 --> 00:20:58,680 Speaker 1: can have these negative effects. And you know, I have 380 00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:02,560 Speaker 1: a friend who works and er and she's she I mean, 381 00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:05,879 Speaker 1: she's she's a fan of cannabis, and she's supportive of 382 00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:08,600 Speaker 1: us medicating our younger son with cannabis. But she tells 383 00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:10,239 Speaker 1: me all the time, and she asked me all these 384 00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:13,159 Speaker 1: questions about like why are all these people coming in 385 00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:18,159 Speaker 1: like this, what's going on right now? And you know, 386 00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:21,920 Speaker 1: it just seems as an industry we've become obsessed with 387 00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:28,600 Speaker 1: maxing out on THHC and cannabis isn't all about THHC. 388 00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:33,480 Speaker 1: And I think, as you know, professionals, industry people, we 389 00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:36,440 Speaker 1: need to be having these conversations and saying, you know, 390 00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:39,000 Speaker 1: there is a risk that we'll never get to the 391 00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:43,440 Speaker 1: point of using cannabis as medicine if we keep pushing 392 00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:48,080 Speaker 1: the envelope with THHC and pushing THHC THHC and people, 393 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:55,000 Speaker 1: you know, teens are dabbing and seeing psychiatric effects, you know, 394 00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:59,480 Speaker 1: whether they're temporary or not, or greening out and going 395 00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:03,679 Speaker 1: to the are you know, with vomb cyclical vomiting related 396 00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:06,640 Speaker 1: to their cannabis, or you know, all of these other 397 00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:10,359 Speaker 1: acute intoxication with canvas, all of these effects. You know, 398 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:14,040 Speaker 1: if we have legislators, I've you know, in my advocacy, 399 00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:18,399 Speaker 1: the most irritating thing that I've heard is slippery slope. 400 00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:22,080 Speaker 1: And I've heard a lot of other advocates say slippery slope, 401 00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:25,879 Speaker 1: slippery slope, slippery slope. These legislators don't want to allow 402 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:29,720 Speaker 1: medical cannabis because it's going to lead to all of 403 00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:34,600 Speaker 1: these effects that the stigma is about. And here we are, 404 00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:39,480 Speaker 1: we're not even there yet, and the slippery slope maybe 405 00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:42,720 Speaker 1: has come to fruition. And part of it is probably 406 00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:47,200 Speaker 1: that these legislators are passing laws in a way that 407 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:51,240 Speaker 1: doesn't allow for regulation. For I mean, I blame in 408 00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:57,880 Speaker 1: Texas legislators for my son having access to Delta eight 409 00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:02,120 Speaker 1: that who knows what's in Delta eight that he's getting at, uh, 410 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:06,280 Speaker 1: you know, convenience or a gas station. You know, if 411 00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:10,560 Speaker 1: we have a legal, federally legal, regulated market, we're not 412 00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:17,000 Speaker 1: with good education, good advocacy through our federally funded or 413 00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:21,600 Speaker 1: private funding from from companies if we have money that 414 00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:26,280 Speaker 1: goes to research from private companies, because you know, there's 415 00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:29,600 Speaker 1: with two ade and lack of interstate commerce, there's all 416 00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:33,200 Speaker 1: of these issues with companies not having the funding that 417 00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:36,800 Speaker 1: they need in order to be able to research the 418 00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:41,080 Speaker 1: potential therapeutic benefits, potential harms, all of it. You know, 419 00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:45,359 Speaker 1: it all comes down to federal schedule status that we 420 00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:48,359 Speaker 1: need to change, say slipping timer, Can I add it 421 00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:51,440 Speaker 1: on that too? Oh? Sorry, go ahead, go ahead, Mary, 422 00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:53,359 Speaker 1: please add oh I was just going to say, you know, 423 00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:55,600 Speaker 1: also to touch on a couple of points that you 424 00:23:55,720 --> 00:24:00,680 Speaker 1: just said, um industry responsibility, Right, we have the regulatory 425 00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:02,879 Speaker 1: bodies doing and not doing what we need them to 426 00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:05,560 Speaker 1: do and not to do, and you cover that beautifully. 427 00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:08,639 Speaker 1: But you know, as an industry, we have I feel 428 00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:13,160 Speaker 1: a duty and obligation to be transparent about the products 429 00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:15,840 Speaker 1: you you know, you spoke about the finding the one 430 00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:18,200 Speaker 1: product that really worked for your son, and other people 431 00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:22,159 Speaker 1: don't have those. You know, as history has presented itself, 432 00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:24,920 Speaker 1: you have patients who are using products that they're finding 433 00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:28,879 Speaker 1: online or in the recreational stores, and then the you know, 434 00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:31,440 Speaker 1: the cultivar changes that they're using, but they're keeping the 435 00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:34,520 Speaker 1: same label and they're measuring only by THHC. All of 436 00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:37,080 Speaker 1: that has a direct impact at how we respond to cannabis. 437 00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:39,480 Speaker 1: And so for the same people who are standing up there, 438 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:41,400 Speaker 1: you know, saying, oh you need these terpenes, in which 439 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:44,280 Speaker 1: I one hundred percent agree with, as you're making these products, 440 00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:47,200 Speaker 1: understand that when you switch that and don't tell the consumer, 441 00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:49,960 Speaker 1: that has a direct impact on their response to it 442 00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:52,400 Speaker 1: as well. And I will I will argue to say 443 00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:55,240 Speaker 1: that ninety percent of people in the cannabis industry use 444 00:24:55,320 --> 00:25:00,480 Speaker 1: the fact that it's a medical product to bolster their ability, 445 00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:03,359 Speaker 1: whether it's with family or friends or workplace, then actually 446 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:05,720 Speaker 1: honor that an act on it, right, and that that's 447 00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:07,640 Speaker 1: my biggest thing is you know, I love our bud 448 00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:10,720 Speaker 1: tenders and we're always about educating bud tenders, but just 449 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:15,520 Speaker 1: let them know that research has is emerging, we know more. Yeah, 450 00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:17,840 Speaker 1: it's fine to be high, but not everybody wants to 451 00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:21,080 Speaker 1: be high, right, It's we want to be functional. If 452 00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:24,040 Speaker 1: you're using cannabis, whether it's just three epilepsy or anxiety, 453 00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:26,520 Speaker 1: you should be able to use it and still remain functional. 454 00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:30,560 Speaker 1: That's a complete possibility. And then you know, if you 455 00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:32,679 Speaker 1: want to just relax a little bit, that's fine too. 456 00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:36,240 Speaker 1: But for our teenagers now you know it is it 457 00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:39,119 Speaker 1: less harmful than alcohol one hundred percent, But we need 458 00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:43,200 Speaker 1: to just be responsible and not not ruin the path 459 00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:44,919 Speaker 1: that we've all taken. And that's where it goes back 460 00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:48,840 Speaker 1: to this hospitality. Right, if people are leaving cannabis infused 461 00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:52,120 Speaker 1: dinners with twenty five milligram appetizers being served, and that's 462 00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:55,879 Speaker 1: the first course, you know, that's what society and the 463 00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:58,160 Speaker 1: News and Forbes is going to highlight on and it's 464 00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:01,560 Speaker 1: going to really put three steps back for us who 465 00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:04,760 Speaker 1: have really been working in the medical sector, which could 466 00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:07,199 Speaker 1: be a heavy dose for anybody starting off with an 467 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:09,360 Speaker 1: appetiser like that and then going and then they don't 468 00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:12,800 Speaker 1: remember leaving the place, you know. Uh, but Piper used 469 00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:15,760 Speaker 1: slippery slope, and you said that this is happening for 470 00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:19,760 Speaker 1: your is that has the slippery slope hit for your situation? Now? 471 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:25,359 Speaker 1: I mean I feel to a certain degree I feel 472 00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:28,920 Speaker 1: in our within our family, I don't see it as 473 00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:31,680 Speaker 1: a slippery slope. I see it as something that's kind 474 00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:37,119 Speaker 1: of natural. Uh. I'm a huge fan of cannabis, And uh, 475 00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:40,760 Speaker 1: why why wouldn't he Except for I initially thought, well, 476 00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:43,440 Speaker 1: maybe because I'm such a huge fan, there might be 477 00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:47,919 Speaker 1: this teen angst that makes him think that cannabis is stupid, 478 00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:52,879 Speaker 1: you know, cannabis until about a year ago. Yeah, yeah, so, 479 00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:56,680 Speaker 1: I mean there was that possibility, But you know, realistically, 480 00:26:57,480 --> 00:27:00,479 Speaker 1: if he knows that, and we had these kinds stations 481 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:06,560 Speaker 1: about it's safer than it's safer than alcohol. But and 482 00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:09,640 Speaker 1: I've been a proponent of it's safer than most things. 483 00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:14,920 Speaker 1: And I still feel it's safer than you know, potatoes, water, 484 00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:20,720 Speaker 1: you know, a whole bunch of things. But but yeah, 485 00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:24,560 Speaker 1: it's it's just because it's safer than other things doesn't 486 00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:27,679 Speaker 1: mean it's completely safe. And we can ignore the potential harms, 487 00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:30,520 Speaker 1: the potential risks, and as you do that with your 488 00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:34,800 Speaker 1: own son, and you see that now these kids, especially 489 00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:37,120 Speaker 1: in areas where it's not legal, right, Like, I feel 490 00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:39,880 Speaker 1: like really bad for you guys, especially in Texas because 491 00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:42,720 Speaker 1: you don't know what you're getting at the local dispensaries 492 00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:45,080 Speaker 1: because the dispensaries are only for medical out there, but 493 00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:46,880 Speaker 1: you know you have to get it. And I don't 494 00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:48,560 Speaker 1: know if you can get a card at at a 495 00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:52,359 Speaker 1: younger age in Texas. I think in California it is sixteen. 496 00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:55,840 Speaker 1: But like even being able to treat these children or Mary, 497 00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:58,920 Speaker 1: do you know that exacty? What is it legally in 498 00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:01,800 Speaker 1: different states? I'm sure it's different ages, but how can 499 00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:06,840 Speaker 1: they be legally treating their children this way when special 500 00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:10,280 Speaker 1: in area where it's not legal? Yeah, So you know, 501 00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:14,359 Speaker 1: legalization versus application is two different things, right, So in 502 00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:16,920 Speaker 1: most states you can get a legal card. You know, 503 00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:20,520 Speaker 1: Normal has a very up to date list on what 504 00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:24,200 Speaker 1: the qualifications are. Sometimes it's just epilepsy, sometimes it's just 505 00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:27,520 Speaker 1: CBD with a minor amount of THHC. But the trick 506 00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:30,159 Speaker 1: is getting the doctors to support you. So, Brian, you 507 00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:32,720 Speaker 1: had asked initially, you know, why aren't the doctors talking 508 00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:35,560 Speaker 1: about this? I will tell you, thankfully, in the last 509 00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:38,400 Speaker 1: you know, five six years, they are, and they're interested. 510 00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:41,040 Speaker 1: They are inviting people like myself Pipe. I'm sure you've 511 00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:45,320 Speaker 1: been a lectured at some medical conferences having nothing to 512 00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:48,600 Speaker 1: do with cannabis because they're interested. But one thing is 513 00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:54,320 Speaker 1: that you know, they're still so naive to even the benefits. 514 00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:56,160 Speaker 1: And I think one of the other problems is that 515 00:28:56,640 --> 00:29:00,600 Speaker 1: you have people talking about research as being done. There's 516 00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:03,120 Speaker 1: different types of research. You have in vivo in vitro 517 00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:05,320 Speaker 1: that isn't a petree dish and they're studying one or 518 00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:09,040 Speaker 1: two cannabinoids and they're studying one condition. Well, Unfortunately, a 519 00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:11,600 Speaker 1: lot of advocates will take that piece of research and 520 00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:14,480 Speaker 1: then you know, we love the internet and social media, 521 00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:16,240 Speaker 1: but spread it out there and all of a sudden, 522 00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:19,720 Speaker 1: everyone thinks cannabis scares COVID, right, and that's the problem, 523 00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:24,720 Speaker 1: And then you're getting you know, false or inadequate formulas 524 00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:28,440 Speaker 1: being made people trying to buy things, and so doctors 525 00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:32,160 Speaker 1: understandably are still apprehensive. It's hard for them to keep 526 00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:35,600 Speaker 1: up on even pharmaceutical impacts on the human system. Now 527 00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:40,080 Speaker 1: we're adding this new compound plant that has hundreds of 528 00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:43,240 Speaker 1: compounds in it, and it's really difficult for them to 529 00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:46,640 Speaker 1: stake their name and license on treating a child or 530 00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:49,480 Speaker 1: you know, anybody for that matter, on the efficacy. But 531 00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:52,440 Speaker 1: I will tell you, you know, continuously talking about it 532 00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:55,080 Speaker 1: and with what Brian and Piper are doing as phenomenal. 533 00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:57,160 Speaker 1: You know, we have a children's hospital out here that 534 00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:01,560 Speaker 1: you can choose to give your child cannabis over opioids 535 00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:04,320 Speaker 1: with the doctor's permission, and most of the doctors are 536 00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:06,760 Speaker 1: on board, but they will have a third party like 537 00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:08,640 Speaker 1: us come in and help guide and give up to 538 00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:11,200 Speaker 1: date research on dosing and how to do that. And 539 00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:15,480 Speaker 1: so you know, it's in our progressive states, it's definitely 540 00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:18,760 Speaker 1: more accepted, but you're still not going to get a 541 00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:21,320 Speaker 1: lot a lot of doctors are not ready to stake 542 00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:24,760 Speaker 1: their their name and their license on providing protocols. So 543 00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:26,240 Speaker 1: they might say, yes, go ahead and do it, and 544 00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:28,880 Speaker 1: let us know how it works. But even that return 545 00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:34,480 Speaker 1: information isn't always adequate. Again because in our system, there's 546 00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:38,960 Speaker 1: no regulation that companies have to discuss a change in formulation, 547 00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:43,360 Speaker 1: right whether it's it's medical or recreational. So if we 548 00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:48,120 Speaker 1: can capture accurate compounds of these formulas and if they change, 549 00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:50,160 Speaker 1: that's why we created I know, you know Joe and 550 00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:53,120 Speaker 1: Piper about the Polite line. It wasn't for a financial gain. 551 00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:55,000 Speaker 1: It was to make sure if people in Washington were 552 00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:57,200 Speaker 1: using this product, they could come back to us and 553 00:30:57,280 --> 00:31:00,520 Speaker 1: if there was a variable in their response, we knew 554 00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:03,480 Speaker 1: what was or what not happening, you know, with the formulas. 555 00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:06,920 Speaker 1: So I think I think it's just naivity on the 556 00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:10,960 Speaker 1: doctors still fear, just like parents, you know, have the 557 00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:16,080 Speaker 1: fear of coming out publicly and um misinformation. And as 558 00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:18,160 Speaker 1: we have this open dialogue, we're gonna take a break 559 00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:20,840 Speaker 1: real quick and we're gonna talk about parents coming out openly. 560 00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:24,320 Speaker 1: As Brian and Piper are parents in Texas that are 561 00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:26,520 Speaker 1: out there openly doing it. I want to see what 562 00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:30,000 Speaker 1: they got from their co parents that are out there 563 00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:31,840 Speaker 1: at the kids' school and how you guys deal with 564 00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:34,880 Speaker 1: that and everybody else that has that whole Oh my god, 565 00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:38,360 Speaker 1: they're the parents that the kids use cannabis. It's Cannabis 566 00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:40,320 Speaker 1: Talk one on one. We'll be right back after this break. 567 00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:43,160 Speaker 1: Make sure you like, follow and subscribe to Cannabis Talk 568 00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:52,080 Speaker 1: one on one. Now now back to the number one 569 00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:56,520 Speaker 1: cannabis show on the planet. You know what get Now 570 00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:59,280 Speaker 1: back to the number one cannabis show of the universe, 571 00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:02,920 Speaker 1: Tonable one. You guys know what time it is, Baby 572 00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:06,400 Speaker 1: Dimetime Pecaira were Diame Indistries Find them in California, Arizona, 573 00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:09,880 Speaker 1: Oklahoma and check them out online at Dime Indistries dot com. 574 00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:12,360 Speaker 1: Are on ig dime dot Industries. 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I 581 00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:34,360 Speaker 1: love it so much and all this knowledge you guys 582 00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:37,320 Speaker 1: are bringing, and thank you to Elevation Nations that has 583 00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:40,800 Speaker 1: supplying people for a safe place to go and consume. 584 00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:44,320 Speaker 1: So they got the hospitality angle that they got. But Brian, 585 00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:48,520 Speaker 1: we went to break and I'm wondering, are you guys 586 00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:51,520 Speaker 1: the cool parents there in Texas? Are you the taboo 587 00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:54,440 Speaker 1: parents in Texas? How has that looked at as the 588 00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:58,160 Speaker 1: household that allows cannabis? And you guys are on this 589 00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:01,360 Speaker 1: advocacy board, and you know, you guys are out there, Mary, 590 00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:04,120 Speaker 1: You're going to places. You're wearing a cannabis shirt right 591 00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:05,680 Speaker 1: now that I'm sure you were out and about in 592 00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:07,480 Speaker 1: the on the streets too. You just didn't wear this 593 00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:12,400 Speaker 1: for the zoom, all right. You know, I was really 594 00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:15,280 Speaker 1: scared about that. Honestly, I was really concerned. I'm still 595 00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:17,880 Speaker 1: a little little shy about it, I guess, or squeamish. 596 00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:20,360 Speaker 1: You know, I work in the construction industry in Texas 597 00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:25,520 Speaker 1: and there's a lot of a lot of drinking, drinking 598 00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:29,840 Speaker 1: further pro Jack Daniels and and you know beer. I mean, 599 00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:33,280 Speaker 1: that's that's their thing, their anti marijuana. At least, I 600 00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:35,880 Speaker 1: am starting to find out that I was a little 601 00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:39,400 Speaker 1: mistaken about that. Anyone that I've done work business with 602 00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:42,480 Speaker 1: and consider a friendly acquaintance for years. When I do 603 00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:44,600 Speaker 1: bring it up to them, when I bring Piper with 604 00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:48,320 Speaker 1: me for a meeting, like to do something, she brings 605 00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:51,000 Speaker 1: it up, you know, And and it turns out that 606 00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:53,520 Speaker 1: they do too. In fact, one of them told us 607 00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:56,520 Speaker 1: he was going to go smoke a bawl, so you know, 608 00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:59,560 Speaker 1: you know, And so it's kind of changed a lot 609 00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:01,520 Speaker 1: of things for me as far as business as well, 610 00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:05,320 Speaker 1: because I don't drink anymore. You know, I quit seven 611 00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:07,320 Speaker 1: or eight years ago, So going to these functions can 612 00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:10,640 Speaker 1: be a little bit, you know, by two o'clock and 613 00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:12,680 Speaker 1: everybody else is drunk and I'm not. It is not 614 00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:15,440 Speaker 1: fun for me anymore. I'm ready to go home. And 615 00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:17,959 Speaker 1: you know, I was ready to go home since nine. 616 00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:21,920 Speaker 1: But now that Las Vegas and and uh, you know, 617 00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:24,320 Speaker 1: I've been in Vegas three times this year, not drinking, 618 00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:27,960 Speaker 1: you know. So it's now that the wreck is open. 619 00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:30,279 Speaker 1: There's a lot of other people that would like to 620 00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:32,479 Speaker 1: stop drinking or don't drink, or don't want to drink 621 00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:36,560 Speaker 1: as much that I've noticed. Or hey, Brian, you're going 622 00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:40,960 Speaker 1: to go to a dispensary, you know, or and I 623 00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:43,800 Speaker 1: don't know, am I becoming that person that I don't know. 624 00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:48,239 Speaker 1: But um, it's apparently everyone is interested but afraid to 625 00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:51,960 Speaker 1: say something because the stigma, like you're saying, but what 626 00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:55,640 Speaker 1: helped me was years ago we were in the we 627 00:34:55,760 --> 00:35:01,239 Speaker 1: have the Houston Chronicle here in Houston, and we had 628 00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:04,439 Speaker 1: an interview. Gosh, I don't know, maybe five years ago, 629 00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:06,760 Speaker 1: but we were in the paper. They took a picture 630 00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:09,080 Speaker 1: and two of our neighbors came over. One of them 631 00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:12,000 Speaker 1: had the paper and said, I had no idea you 632 00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:15,440 Speaker 1: guys were doing this the whole time, and I don't know. 633 00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:19,360 Speaker 1: I evenly thought I nobod's gonna read it anyway, and 634 00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:22,640 Speaker 1: then sure how they did and it's and one of 635 00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:26,919 Speaker 1: my buddies actually saw it in North Dakota and said 636 00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:30,560 Speaker 1: so and talked about it. So apparently a lot of 637 00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:33,279 Speaker 1: people do you know, and just don't say anything to us, 638 00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:36,319 Speaker 1: or they know and have been encouraging, but no one 639 00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:40,520 Speaker 1: has said anything. Well I don't I don't know how 640 00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:44,480 Speaker 1: he doesn't know this, But I see every interaction as 641 00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:49,399 Speaker 1: an opportunity to advocate, and so, UM, I'm a dental 642 00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:53,560 Speaker 1: hygienist by profession, and so that's a lot of interactions 643 00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:58,680 Speaker 1: every day, and UM, and you know, I advocate at 644 00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:05,600 Speaker 1: Texas Capital and to at political things locally, and to 645 00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:08,120 Speaker 1: all of my friends and other parents, you know, I 646 00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:10,480 Speaker 1: would I would talk to them right away. So this 647 00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:13,239 Speaker 1: is in first grade, you know, when I'm talking to 648 00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:19,960 Speaker 1: other parents and everybody, I have not had anyone who 649 00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:23,560 Speaker 1: has not been receptive, because the thing is, like, you 650 00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:26,840 Speaker 1: see what all most of these people, most of the 651 00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:29,560 Speaker 1: other parents have seen what our child has gone through 652 00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:34,920 Speaker 1: and see that it helps him, and they think it's 653 00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:38,360 Speaker 1: amazing too because of that, and so they completely understand 654 00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:41,160 Speaker 1: where we're coming from. And now as far as our 655 00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:46,640 Speaker 1: older son, so I feel like we're kind of progressive parents. 656 00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:55,560 Speaker 1: And still he's not permitted to use cannabis, but he's 657 00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:59,080 Speaker 1: using it anyways. I keep telling him, you know, I 658 00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:03,000 Speaker 1: don't think it's okay until your brain is finished developing, 659 00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:07,680 Speaker 1: which is around twenty three. Okay, So but if you're 660 00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:10,960 Speaker 1: going to do this, which you probably are anyways, these 661 00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:15,320 Speaker 1: are the guidelines that you should follow for yourself. And 662 00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:19,600 Speaker 1: you know, I try to stress moderation with him and 663 00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:26,640 Speaker 1: one of his friends that he's been hanging out with 664 00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:28,879 Speaker 1: a lot and kind of does this kind of thing 665 00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:34,600 Speaker 1: with frequently. Most frequently I feel like I went over 666 00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:37,279 Speaker 1: to their house. I didn't know the family went over 667 00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:39,600 Speaker 1: their house because I saw it, you know, on his 668 00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:44,040 Speaker 1: phone where he was and and invited them over for dinner. 669 00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:45,840 Speaker 1: I mean, they were happy to come over for dinner. 670 00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:49,680 Speaker 1: And I explained to his friends the risks since I said, 671 00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:53,920 Speaker 1: you know, there's cannabis use disorder, there's cannabis hypoemesis syndrome, 672 00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:58,000 Speaker 1: there's paranoias like kosis, and all of these things are 673 00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:03,240 Speaker 1: dose dependent, so we shouldn't be moderating. And also probably 674 00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:08,839 Speaker 1: supplementing with CBD, right is so so great for UH 675 00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:15,160 Speaker 1: for counter acting those negative effects. So um so his 676 00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:17,719 Speaker 1: parents were appreciative of that. You know, We've got that 677 00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:20,840 Speaker 1: planned with another one of his friends. So I just 678 00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:24,040 Speaker 1: feel like, you know, the best way to deal with 679 00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:28,120 Speaker 1: it is to UH support other other families that are 680 00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:31,200 Speaker 1: going through this. And I also talked to I've been 681 00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:35,120 Speaker 1: talking with staff and Debbie Americans for Safe Access. Also, 682 00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:38,080 Speaker 1: I want to mention that we have reports that our 683 00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:40,520 Speaker 1: State of the State's reports which are at safe access 684 00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:46,080 Speaker 1: now dot org h slash SOS, and those tell about 685 00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:48,640 Speaker 1: every single medical program in the States. So how you 686 00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:51,840 Speaker 1: can qualify and UH and we also a grade the 687 00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:54,840 Speaker 1: programs and say, you know what needs to improve to 688 00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:58,279 Speaker 1: give access and um, you know there's a long way 689 00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:04,480 Speaker 1: to go, but um, but I don't know, so I'd 690 00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:07,200 Speaker 1: like to elaborate a little bit please or something. Stayed 691 00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:09,719 Speaker 1: out all night with the car and we had the 692 00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:13,480 Speaker 1: location on his iPhone, so I snapped a picture of 693 00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:16,000 Speaker 1: where he was when I saw it, you know, like, okay, 694 00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:19,239 Speaker 1: he's not home. Three in the morning. So I saw 695 00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:21,520 Speaker 1: he was at that same house and I showed her. 696 00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:25,239 Speaker 1: Within twenty minutes, she's you know ready, this was the 697 00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:30,000 Speaker 1: next morning. Drive over there, knocks on the door. I 698 00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:32,400 Speaker 1: didn't go. I said, now, let's school her heads prevail. 699 00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:35,200 Speaker 1: Let's uh talk about what we're gonna do here and 700 00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:37,839 Speaker 1: what's gonna happen. She was gone, like, if you're not going, 701 00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:40,200 Speaker 1: I'm going. I got my mom to go with me 702 00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:45,800 Speaker 1: and have the car like it goes over there, explains 703 00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:48,319 Speaker 1: my sons stay the night over here, and he did 704 00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:52,239 Speaker 1: not come home. And I would like you guys to uh, 705 00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:54,960 Speaker 1: you know, I don't know if you're explaining. They're having 706 00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:57,319 Speaker 1: the same issue but worse than we've been going through. 707 00:39:57,480 --> 00:39:59,680 Speaker 1: So they came over for dinner last Friday night with 708 00:39:59,840 --> 00:40:03,560 Speaker 1: the son and our son, like she's proud. All the 709 00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:06,520 Speaker 1: parents and the kids that will listen to having this 710 00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:09,680 Speaker 1: they get together, regardless of that the kids want to 711 00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:13,960 Speaker 1: or not really so great. I think that open dialogue 712 00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:15,520 Speaker 1: that you need to have, right, And I think that's 713 00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:17,400 Speaker 1: what parents and that's the key thing. And that's what 714 00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:21,080 Speaker 1: I want really people to understand by this podcast is 715 00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:24,719 Speaker 1: these are parents who have boys, girls, whatever, and marry 716 00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:27,240 Speaker 1: us four. I got three children and my oldest one smokes. 717 00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:29,600 Speaker 1: I was supplying her with cannabis as well when she 718 00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:32,200 Speaker 1: was in college and this and that, and she just graduated. 719 00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:34,719 Speaker 1: And as long as we're explaining it to them, right, 720 00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:37,319 Speaker 1: I mean just really trying to do that. I even 721 00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:40,040 Speaker 1: did that with my son who's eight years old. He's 722 00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:42,279 Speaker 1: seen some gummies at the thousand. I'm like, he thought 723 00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:43,960 Speaker 1: he could grab one, and I'm like, a sound. That's 724 00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:47,040 Speaker 1: not a normal gummy. That's the cannabis gummies. These are 725 00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:50,880 Speaker 1: doctor Candy jeweler here, this is the cannabis George. The 726 00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:54,319 Speaker 1: alcohol drawer over there, or that's the wine salary, right, 727 00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:58,759 Speaker 1: that's able to have these open conversations because that's the 728 00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:01,440 Speaker 1: world we live in now and then not only to 729 00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:03,360 Speaker 1: be able to explain it in a way of this 730 00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:06,040 Speaker 1: is for the adult use that want to use it 731 00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:11,120 Speaker 1: recreationally like a glass of wine, but also explaining what 732 00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:13,600 Speaker 1: you guys are in that harder age, in my opinion, 733 00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:18,520 Speaker 1: with boys who are using cannabis and don't understand, Like, dude, 734 00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:20,839 Speaker 1: if you're gonna sit there and dab and then you're 735 00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:23,399 Speaker 1: just sitting on the couch and you know, and you're 736 00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:27,080 Speaker 1: not finishing your work, hey, that becomes a problem when 737 00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:29,799 Speaker 1: your life becomes quote unquote unmanageable, you know, I mean, 738 00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:33,480 Speaker 1: are you finishing everything you're supposed to do responsibly for 739 00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:36,920 Speaker 1: your era of what your life is about? And you know, 740 00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:39,200 Speaker 1: and that's probably something that I don't know if you 741 00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:41,920 Speaker 1: guys are going through, Brian and Piper, But like, how 742 00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:43,960 Speaker 1: do you guys deal with that? Are you know, they 743 00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:46,759 Speaker 1: sit there and dabbing is as strong as it gets, right, 744 00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:51,080 Speaker 1: are a good overdosed edible that they make themselves? But 745 00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:53,120 Speaker 1: it's like, you know, are you guys dealing with a 746 00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:57,400 Speaker 1: situation like that? So yeah, we're we're dealing with that, 747 00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:01,320 Speaker 1: and I mean, honestly, we were dealing with it before 748 00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:04,560 Speaker 1: he was using, like not taking care of his responsibilities. 749 00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:07,120 Speaker 1: I think it's something that most parents of teams, whether 750 00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:10,120 Speaker 1: they use drugs or not, you know, are dealing with, 751 00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:14,360 Speaker 1: do your chores, do your homework. But yeah, things have 752 00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:19,760 Speaker 1: gotten gotten worse since since this UM and I don't know. Again, 753 00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:22,600 Speaker 1: I'm trying to to go with We're trying to go 754 00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:30,120 Speaker 1: with the positive route of you know, explaining that drug 755 00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:34,960 Speaker 1: abuse can happen with cannabis and saying, drug abuse is 756 00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:39,560 Speaker 1: when you have all of these other interests and opportunities 757 00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:45,880 Speaker 1: and beautiful things about life that you can either enhance 758 00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:49,840 Speaker 1: with your exposure to cannabis or you can take away 759 00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:53,200 Speaker 1: from them by just using up all of your time 760 00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:56,719 Speaker 1: on cannabis. And you know, when you're taking away from 761 00:42:56,760 --> 00:42:59,879 Speaker 1: all of the other things that that make you a human, 762 00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:03,240 Speaker 1: that make you have an enjoyable life, then that's abuse. 763 00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:06,200 Speaker 1: And so it's something that we and you know, that's 764 00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:09,640 Speaker 1: the definition of cannabis used disorder, right, is when it 765 00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:16,080 Speaker 1: interferes with your ability to enjoy your life. Uh, that's abuse. 766 00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:18,960 Speaker 1: So and those are the conversations that we've been having. 767 00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:24,360 Speaker 1: And I've been, as you know, as punishments, been making 768 00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:29,279 Speaker 1: him do some things to kind of explore what other 769 00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:32,080 Speaker 1: things might be his hobbies. And you know, and and 770 00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:34,520 Speaker 1: and and told them, you know, cannabis can be one 771 00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:37,640 Speaker 1: of one of your things that you enjoy out of life, 772 00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:40,760 Speaker 1: but you've got to make sure you have other things also. 773 00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:45,759 Speaker 1: I think to talking to these kids about what it 774 00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:48,400 Speaker 1: is you're trying to achieve by using cannabis. Right. So 775 00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:50,080 Speaker 1: a lot of the ones that come in our clinic, 776 00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:53,480 Speaker 1: you know, it's it's it's teenage angst, it's getting over COVID. 777 00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:55,799 Speaker 1: I mean, it's everything that all we are feeling as 778 00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:59,200 Speaker 1: adults and trying to cope with in life. And then 779 00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:01,520 Speaker 1: you know, these kids are doing the same and now 780 00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:03,840 Speaker 1: they have this potential outlet. But I think one of 781 00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:06,680 Speaker 1: the key pieces that goes missing on these kids when 782 00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:08,160 Speaker 1: we talk about it, we try to like put it 783 00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:11,200 Speaker 1: in terms that they can understand, is, you know, the 784 00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:14,840 Speaker 1: way cannabis works in your body, right THHC essentially taps 785 00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:18,360 Speaker 1: your natural bliss chemical right, and everybody's born we tell them, 786 00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:20,440 Speaker 1: with like a different sized keg in their brain. Some 787 00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:22,440 Speaker 1: people are born with the pony cake, some people are 788 00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:24,920 Speaker 1: born with the megacg. Once you have tapped that keg 789 00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:27,520 Speaker 1: with your THHC. You're not getting in more out by 790 00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:30,520 Speaker 1: consuming more, You're squeezing a dry lemon. So if you 791 00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:33,920 Speaker 1: send the boys, you know, back to the store to 792 00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:36,200 Speaker 1: refill that keg, the way to do that is use 793 00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:40,200 Speaker 1: other cannabinoids. Use other health and wellness tactics, whether it's 794 00:44:40,239 --> 00:44:42,279 Speaker 1: out you know, skateboarding or ride near bike or doing 795 00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:46,520 Speaker 1: whatever to replenish your your natural store. When you use 796 00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:48,920 Speaker 1: that cannabis again, you're going to get it and it's cheaper, 797 00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:52,879 Speaker 1: right because because it's expensive to dev and to continuously, 798 00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:56,680 Speaker 1: you know, chase more of that THHC high that you're 799 00:44:56,719 --> 00:44:59,279 Speaker 1: looking for. So just trying to help them understand that 800 00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:01,719 Speaker 1: you actually control over this, right, you can get that 801 00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:05,239 Speaker 1: feeling again instead of having to you know, consume every 802 00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:08,279 Speaker 1: twenty thirty minutes. Because even adults, I hear so many times, 803 00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:09,879 Speaker 1: you know, I need so much to get me high, 804 00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:12,080 Speaker 1: I have to go through a Graham. No, you really don't. 805 00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:15,120 Speaker 1: And we call it a tolerance break, but really it's 806 00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:18,959 Speaker 1: like it's a relationship reset, right, So I think that's 807 00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:20,680 Speaker 1: you know, that's the other part of it too, is 808 00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:23,759 Speaker 1: really helping them understand in language that they can absorb, 809 00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:27,040 Speaker 1: And I was think in the clinical aspect, Mary, even 810 00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:30,560 Speaker 1: dealing with families like you know, Piper and Brian's who 811 00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:34,000 Speaker 1: can be the parents that are such advocates, and then 812 00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:38,239 Speaker 1: seeing it going okay, dealing with teenage life shit like 813 00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:41,200 Speaker 1: you said, Piper, like everybody deal they could be a 814 00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:43,879 Speaker 1: perfect kid who doesn't do any drugs, doesn't have any 815 00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:46,960 Speaker 1: medical problems, but he still doesn't you know, clean his 816 00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:49,799 Speaker 1: room and fittages his homework or whatever. Right, So there's 817 00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:53,040 Speaker 1: those normal life things that happen. But as you deal 818 00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:54,520 Speaker 1: with that, Mary, what are some of the things when 819 00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:56,680 Speaker 1: the kids going but you do it, mom? But you 820 00:45:56,880 --> 00:45:59,040 Speaker 1: do it? Dad? What do you mean you guys are 821 00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:01,719 Speaker 1: smoking like that? And and how do you and what 822 00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:03,680 Speaker 1: are some of the clinical ways of looking at that 823 00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:07,799 Speaker 1: and approaching this and saying use this as a tactic. Well, 824 00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:11,279 Speaker 1: I think it's. Yeah, if you're watching me, use and 825 00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:14,440 Speaker 1: consume and can you know, consult with other people about it? 826 00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:16,919 Speaker 1: Watch how I do that. It's responsible. It never takes 827 00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:18,960 Speaker 1: away from getting my job done. It never takes away 828 00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:21,160 Speaker 1: from my runs in the morning. You know, I'm if 829 00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:24,560 Speaker 1: anybody we I think, Piper, you know, Brian, we're we're 830 00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:27,800 Speaker 1: actually what you want to look at, You're right, and 831 00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:30,880 Speaker 1: it doesn't you know, hinders never want to look at 832 00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:36,600 Speaker 1: their parents, right, Like dad, he's in the construction world. 833 00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:39,320 Speaker 1: My dad was looking since he was X amount of 834 00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:42,399 Speaker 1: years old and he has this construction company. But that's dad. 835 00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:45,759 Speaker 1: Dad's an idiot, he doesn't know, and Mom is just 836 00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:48,520 Speaker 1: a coop. Shut up, mom, you know what I mean, Like, 837 00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:50,759 Speaker 1: let's just face it. That's that's it. But I mean, 838 00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:53,440 Speaker 1: but I think you can show them positive role models, right, 839 00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:55,960 Speaker 1: and then also role models that are exemplary to what 840 00:46:56,080 --> 00:46:58,520 Speaker 1: they are doing and how it is hindering them. And 841 00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:00,880 Speaker 1: you know it is it's kids are kids. I mean, 842 00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:03,160 Speaker 1: in our house it's a little bit different. I have 843 00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:06,960 Speaker 1: one that uses it for very severe migraines, you know, 844 00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:09,440 Speaker 1: a lot of different neurological issues. And then I have 845 00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:12,560 Speaker 1: one that I kind of think would be beneficial. She 846 00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:14,800 Speaker 1: can't touch it, right, a small amount of teach she 847 00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:19,080 Speaker 1: sends her over the edge. And so in in our household, 848 00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:20,960 Speaker 1: it's a little bit different. I think, you know, if 849 00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:23,640 Speaker 1: if she could use any cannabinoid, it would be beneficial 850 00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:26,160 Speaker 1: to her, but she actually can't. So you know, we 851 00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:29,440 Speaker 1: have something that's a little bit a little bit different, 852 00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:31,680 Speaker 1: but I think we live very parallel lives. You know, 853 00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:34,560 Speaker 1: when I first started talking about this publicly as an 854 00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:38,919 Speaker 1: elementary school employee, I held a you know, cannabis talk 855 00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:41,360 Speaker 1: at a local coffee shop. Didn't put my name on it, 856 00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:43,959 Speaker 1: and almost every single person that showed up and filled 857 00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:46,640 Speaker 1: that coffee shop was a local parent, and they're all going, 858 00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:49,239 Speaker 1: I didn't know you, I didn't know you. And then 859 00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:51,480 Speaker 1: you know, it was really about let's learn about this 860 00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:53,480 Speaker 1: and how can we engage with our kids. So I 861 00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:57,320 Speaker 1: think it's just we keep talking and you know, know 862 00:47:57,480 --> 00:47:59,520 Speaker 1: your audience. Sometimes we don't want to share things with 863 00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:02,279 Speaker 1: a certain audiences because they don't understand. But our kids 864 00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:04,760 Speaker 1: are our audience, right, So speak to them in their language, 865 00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:06,480 Speaker 1: show them what they need to see, and then be 866 00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:09,400 Speaker 1: mindful of how you're consuming at home, right, I mean, 867 00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:10,920 Speaker 1: are we walking in from the end of the day. 868 00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:12,520 Speaker 1: Just like I don't want my kids to see me 869 00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:14,480 Speaker 1: walk in forming a glass of wine every day at four, 870 00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:16,640 Speaker 1: I don't want them see me coming in and you know, 871 00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:19,600 Speaker 1: using cannabis every day at four. It's about responsible use, 872 00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:22,640 Speaker 1: through and through. And that being said too, I think 873 00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:25,440 Speaker 1: it's tough too for children, you know that are the 874 00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:29,320 Speaker 1: young adolescents that see the rapper smoke and the singer smoke, 875 00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:32,080 Speaker 1: and everybody just smokes blunts or this or that or 876 00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:35,120 Speaker 1: now we're dabbing all day and they just feel like 877 00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:38,400 Speaker 1: and I'm assuming that a lot of these children go 878 00:48:38,600 --> 00:48:41,080 Speaker 1: through that, and it's really hard to really let them know, 879 00:48:41,560 --> 00:48:43,879 Speaker 1: you know, they're Also is the fact that that Cannabis says, 880 00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:46,959 Speaker 1: using it as medicine for all these other reasons isn't 881 00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:49,360 Speaker 1: for everyone either, Like you just said, Mary, your children 882 00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:52,239 Speaker 1: this and that, and some people affects differently. And it 883 00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:54,800 Speaker 1: goes parallel to even looking at the medicine that the 884 00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:56,840 Speaker 1: doctor is going to give somebody. If a children is 885 00:48:57,200 --> 00:48:59,440 Speaker 1: a child, or any humans going through something and they're 886 00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:02,960 Speaker 1: doing trial are on medicine, it's microdocing at first, trying 887 00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:04,920 Speaker 1: to find the right medicine, trying to find the right 888 00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:07,560 Speaker 1: solution that's going to work with your body, and then 889 00:49:07,719 --> 00:49:10,440 Speaker 1: trying to explain that to people. And that's what I 890 00:49:10,520 --> 00:49:12,880 Speaker 1: want this to be out there too, Like it's not 891 00:49:13,120 --> 00:49:15,480 Speaker 1: just one strain. I think Brian and Piper were so 892 00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:19,319 Speaker 1: lucky to find the first one that worked for their son, 893 00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:22,279 Speaker 1: because you know, there's so many different strains out there 894 00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:24,879 Speaker 1: with the right terpenes and the terpene profiles, and doing 895 00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:27,360 Speaker 1: a DNA test to find out the right terpenes for 896 00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:29,880 Speaker 1: your body that's out there now for people to do. 897 00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:32,759 Speaker 1: That might be a suggestion if you're having something that 898 00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:34,279 Speaker 1: you know, what, I need to really find out what's 899 00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:36,359 Speaker 1: going to work for my grandmother, what's going to work 900 00:49:36,440 --> 00:49:39,600 Speaker 1: best for my whoever it is, Because it's not just children, folks, 901 00:49:39,640 --> 00:49:42,160 Speaker 1: it could be you that's listening to this podcast, going, 902 00:49:42,560 --> 00:49:44,720 Speaker 1: I have this issue that I can't seem to figure 903 00:49:44,760 --> 00:49:47,520 Speaker 1: out what's going on, and I'm now taking seven pills 904 00:49:47,560 --> 00:49:50,120 Speaker 1: a day because of X, Y and Z. Well, maybe 905 00:49:50,200 --> 00:49:52,640 Speaker 1: you want to look into these DNA testings that's going 906 00:49:52,680 --> 00:49:56,239 Speaker 1: to do that DNA for your cannabinoid system and then 907 00:49:56,400 --> 00:49:58,920 Speaker 1: go talk to somebody like a Mary, you like a piper, 908 00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:01,800 Speaker 1: and say, what do you think find the right smartest 909 00:50:02,120 --> 00:50:05,759 Speaker 1: bud tender that says, Hey, my DNA says I need 910 00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:08,839 Speaker 1: this type of strain to help with this. And if 911 00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:11,520 Speaker 1: I'm not mistaken, isn't that what those DNA tests are 912 00:50:11,600 --> 00:50:15,919 Speaker 1: doing nowadays? There are some out there that are doing 913 00:50:16,040 --> 00:50:20,080 Speaker 1: that how reliable they are I think is questionable because 914 00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:23,160 Speaker 1: of the consistency of what's being grown. Right. We all 915 00:50:23,239 --> 00:50:26,240 Speaker 1: know that, you know, testing facilities in Texas are different, 916 00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:28,960 Speaker 1: you know, city by city, they're different, and so I 917 00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:31,600 Speaker 1: think we do the best we can. But I will 918 00:50:31,640 --> 00:50:34,960 Speaker 1: say one other thing to consider just out there is 919 00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:37,640 Speaker 1: that our bodies are our bodies and we're individual, but 920 00:50:37,719 --> 00:50:40,640 Speaker 1: we are also putting things in our bodies that shift 921 00:50:40,680 --> 00:50:43,480 Speaker 1: our response to cannabis. Right, So most people who are 922 00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:47,120 Speaker 1: looking for sleep assistance are probably taking melitonein or Valerian 923 00:50:47,239 --> 00:50:51,000 Speaker 1: route or ambient right, and that has that we're chemical 924 00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:54,480 Speaker 1: beings that shifts our system in general. So just because 925 00:50:54,600 --> 00:50:56,719 Speaker 1: your brother took something that worked for his sleep, doesn't 926 00:50:56,719 --> 00:50:58,480 Speaker 1: mean that's going to work for your sleep. But you 927 00:50:58,560 --> 00:51:00,719 Speaker 1: also need to think what herbs your take, you know, 928 00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:04,800 Speaker 1: what your actual daily habits are, and also consider cannabis 929 00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:06,480 Speaker 1: for and this is what we need to talk with 930 00:51:06,520 --> 00:51:09,160 Speaker 1: our kids about not always as a rescue you. Right, 931 00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:11,920 Speaker 1: you can use cannabinoids and you talked about micro dosing 932 00:51:12,200 --> 00:51:14,440 Speaker 1: to set to you all for a positive day so 933 00:51:14,560 --> 00:51:17,440 Speaker 1: that when those anxiety triggers come in or you know 934 00:51:17,560 --> 00:51:22,120 Speaker 1: when when something could even epilepsy. Right, it's in females 935 00:51:22,239 --> 00:51:26,160 Speaker 1: especially it often has exacerbated around their menstrual cycle, so 936 00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:29,759 Speaker 1: you change it preemptively and then your body often can 937 00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:33,680 Speaker 1: respond appropriately. So you know, thinking about the whole being, 938 00:51:33,760 --> 00:51:36,960 Speaker 1: the whole person, just like we talk about whole flower products, 939 00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:41,000 Speaker 1: whole plant, you have to respect that in ourselves as well. Yes, 940 00:51:41,320 --> 00:51:44,080 Speaker 1: I agree, and I love this conversation you guys. Before 941 00:51:44,120 --> 00:51:46,320 Speaker 1: I let you go, I want to ask you, Piper 942 00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:48,239 Speaker 1: and Brian, is there anything else that you guys wanted 943 00:51:48,239 --> 00:51:50,120 Speaker 1: to bring up for the listeners to hear, or anything 944 00:51:50,160 --> 00:51:53,040 Speaker 1: else in general that you guys wanted to talk about. Well, 945 00:51:53,120 --> 00:51:55,200 Speaker 1: I did want to talk about. I have this airshred 946 00:51:55,280 --> 00:52:01,360 Speaker 1: for eighth to campaign. Let us know. So it's a 947 00:52:01,560 --> 00:52:06,280 Speaker 1: fund and awareness raising campaign for Americans for Safe Access, 948 00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:10,680 Speaker 1: which is the only federal medical cannabis patient organization. So 949 00:52:11,080 --> 00:52:16,200 Speaker 1: it's it is. I just donated to Americans for Safe Access. 950 00:52:16,840 --> 00:52:19,320 Speaker 1: I challenge you for people to air shred for ASA. 951 00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:22,560 Speaker 1: This is how I shred, and you can do air guitar, 952 00:52:23,200 --> 00:52:26,120 Speaker 1: or you can shred the d E a schedule, or 953 00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:30,200 Speaker 1: you can shred any way that you want. We want 954 00:52:30,239 --> 00:52:32,960 Speaker 1: you to share those on social media with the hashtag 955 00:52:33,040 --> 00:52:36,719 Speaker 1: air shredd for ASA and ASA challenge. And then also 956 00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:40,439 Speaker 1: I'm asking for people to engage because like a lot 957 00:52:40,520 --> 00:52:44,000 Speaker 1: of our conversation today was about how we're really not 958 00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:46,560 Speaker 1: there yet, and so like in order for us to 959 00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:49,759 Speaker 1: get there, we need more people engaged, whether it's with 960 00:52:50,280 --> 00:52:55,560 Speaker 1: money or with manpower, but we need it all. We 961 00:52:55,680 --> 00:52:57,919 Speaker 1: need it all to make it happen. Americans for Safe 962 00:52:58,320 --> 00:53:04,719 Speaker 1: Access has a bill that we're that we're hoping we 963 00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:11,279 Speaker 1: get sponsored in the US Congress and so you can 964 00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:13,920 Speaker 1: find it on our website at safe Access Now dot 965 00:53:14,120 --> 00:53:20,040 Speaker 1: org Model leg slash Model legislation, and um, look at it, 966 00:53:20,200 --> 00:53:23,359 Speaker 1: see if it's interesting to you. It res or sorry, 967 00:53:23,480 --> 00:53:26,360 Speaker 1: creates a Schedule six and its own regulatory body with 968 00:53:27,120 --> 00:53:31,200 Speaker 1: people who know what they're talking about, being responsible for 969 00:53:31,360 --> 00:53:35,279 Speaker 1: regulating cannabis. And so yeah, we're hoping for that. We 970 00:53:35,400 --> 00:53:39,000 Speaker 1: do need people to help to push for that. We 971 00:53:39,120 --> 00:53:41,960 Speaker 1: are having a Unity Conference where we'll have a lobby 972 00:53:42,040 --> 00:53:45,600 Speaker 1: day where we're working on this bill in May, and 973 00:53:45,840 --> 00:53:49,920 Speaker 1: so visit our website safe Access now dot org. And 974 00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:54,120 Speaker 1: let's see those airshred for ACE videos. Well, thank you, 975 00:53:54,200 --> 00:53:56,000 Speaker 1: and and I love how you were dressed like that 976 00:53:56,239 --> 00:53:59,000 Speaker 1: at the MJ Biscong where I met you. You looked awesome. Yeah, 977 00:53:59,040 --> 00:54:01,960 Speaker 1: it was all like her outfits totally Mary. Anything else 978 00:54:02,040 --> 00:54:04,800 Speaker 1: you want to share before we let you guys all go. Yeah, No, 979 00:54:04,920 --> 00:54:07,520 Speaker 1: I mean I just a thanks for listening. And Piper again, 980 00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:10,480 Speaker 1: I love the air spid because he was talking about 981 00:54:10,480 --> 00:54:13,000 Speaker 1: your situation, he said, and she was wearing this rocker costume. 982 00:54:13,120 --> 00:54:17,960 Speaker 1: I said, Piper was right, I love it. She went. 983 00:54:18,320 --> 00:54:22,280 Speaker 1: I was like, are you really going aware everybody remembered 984 00:54:22,360 --> 00:54:25,239 Speaker 1: or Brian at work exactly. I'll be there with you 985 00:54:25,360 --> 00:54:29,160 Speaker 1: next time. Piper. Also, I just it's about dialogue. It's 986 00:54:29,160 --> 00:54:32,719 Speaker 1: about conversation with elevations nation, as I told you with 987 00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:37,920 Speaker 1: our hotels Alexei and Clarendon Arizona. But also for medical 988 00:54:38,120 --> 00:54:42,239 Speaker 1: consultation consideration, you can go to consult smja dot com. 989 00:54:42,640 --> 00:54:45,680 Speaker 1: But you're any type of concerns questions you have and 990 00:54:45,760 --> 00:54:47,520 Speaker 1: we can match you with a consultant that we'll do 991 00:54:47,960 --> 00:54:50,160 Speaker 1: one on one work with you whether it's in your area, 992 00:54:50,280 --> 00:54:52,719 Speaker 1: or virtually speak with your doctors on your behalf and 993 00:54:52,760 --> 00:54:54,880 Speaker 1: really look from like a medical perspective on helping to 994 00:54:54,960 --> 00:54:57,840 Speaker 1: guide what products might be best for you in the 995 00:54:58,000 --> 00:55:00,840 Speaker 1: in the realm of education. So you know, there's a 996 00:55:00,880 --> 00:55:02,640 Speaker 1: lot of different a lot of different angles that we 997 00:55:02,719 --> 00:55:05,560 Speaker 1: can communicate with people, and I think just continuing to 998 00:55:05,640 --> 00:55:08,200 Speaker 1: have these conversations is so important. So I'm looking forward 999 00:55:08,200 --> 00:55:10,719 Speaker 1: to seeing you next month down there. Yes, thank you 1000 00:55:10,840 --> 00:55:13,279 Speaker 1: guys all for listening to the podcast cannas Talk one 1001 00:55:13,320 --> 00:55:15,919 Speaker 1: on one, and thank you Mary our shooting. 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