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Speaker 1: Hi, everyone, it's Sophia. Welcome to Work in Progress. Happy holidays, friends,

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Speaker 1: It's the most wonderful time of the year, as they say,

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Speaker 1: and we are feeling so grateful for all of you,

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Speaker 1: for our listeners, for our community, for all these whip

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Speaker 1: smart humans who care and show up for each other.

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Speaker 1: Really the global community of folks who are here with

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Speaker 1: me and with our whole team at Work in Progress.

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Speaker 1: We just were impressed by you. We cherish you, and

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Speaker 1: thanks for being here to say thank you and maybe

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Speaker 1: close out the year or kick off the new year. However,

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Speaker 1: we want to look at it together. We thought it

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Speaker 1: might be nice to dive into some of your wonderful

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Speaker 1: questions and then close out twenty twenty four together. So

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Speaker 1: let's dig in. Our first question is from Grace. Hello, Hi,

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Speaker 1: I hope you're having a great day. She asked, what

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Speaker 1: has brought you the most joy this year? I think

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Speaker 1: this year for so many people has been filled with

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Speaker 1: ups and downs, right, And I know because I look

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Speaker 1: at the inbox and I see the things you all

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Speaker 1: are thinking about, contemplating, excited about, scared by. I know

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Speaker 1: there's a lot of trepidation about what's to come in

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Speaker 1: I get it. I feel you. It's scary to think

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Speaker 1: that our democracy might change, that our rights might change.

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Speaker 1: But here's what I'm going to promise you. What I'm

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Speaker 1: going to share is that win or lose, I love

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Speaker 1: fighting for democracy. I loved every single second on the

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Speaker 1: campaign trail, being out across the country, meeting with so

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Speaker 1: many of you, knocking on doors, organizing around what it

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Speaker 1: means to build a country that gets closer and closer

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Speaker 1: to achieving the promise of its ideals. Campaigning and volunteering is,

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Speaker 1: without a doubt, a highlight of my life, and it was,

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Speaker 1: without a doubt a highlight of this entire year for me.

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Speaker 1: And I also really loved the merch clearly, So there

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Speaker 1: you go. On the lighthearted side of it. I am

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Speaker 1: still rocking my custom embroidered camo, and I am still

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Speaker 1: Coach's biggest fan. Truly, being reminded that so many of

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Speaker 1: us care about each other and are willing to show

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Speaker 1: up for each other and yes, we'll vote for each

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Speaker 1: other really brings me a lot of joy. And even

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Speaker 1: if we might you know, disagree or want a debate

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Speaker 1: policy or how best to solve a problem. One of

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Speaker 1: the things I cherish about this country is that we

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Speaker 1: are able to do so. We can debate, we can share,

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Speaker 1: we can talk, we can argue, and we're lucky enough

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Speaker 1: to live in a place where it's possible to do that.

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Speaker 1: So no matter how you're feeling about it, just know

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Speaker 1: that we're in this together and community is key. Here

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Speaker 1: we go twenty twenty five, Hayley asks what advice do

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Speaker 1: you have for Oh, this is related to the last question, certainly,

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Speaker 1: what advice do you have for dealing with anxiety about

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Speaker 1: what the new year holds, especially with the new administration.

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Speaker 1: I've been talking a lot about this with my friends

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Speaker 1: and my colleagues and fellow advocates, volunteers, friends, even my therapist.

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Speaker 1: And my therapist told me something that can be hard

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Speaker 1: start keeping track of when it goes right. We do

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Speaker 1: so much worrying about what could go wrong, and we

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Speaker 1: are more connected than ever, which means we also see

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Speaker 1: we didn't. But if we can start keeping a list,

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Speaker 1: keeping track of what goes right, you know, with everything, life, love, politics,

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Speaker 1: local things happening in your community, good news that you read.

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Speaker 1: There are actual accounts on Instagram that only post good news.

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Speaker 1: I suggest following them. They are important for my mental health,

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Speaker 1: all of it. It feels really important to not just

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Speaker 1: keep that worry list that we all can't help but keep,

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Speaker 1: it a gratitude practice. I actually started a new little

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Speaker 1: I don't know what you want to call it, actually,

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Speaker 1: And the idea is that once a week, you minimum

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Speaker 1: once a week, by the way, you write on a

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Speaker 1: little piece of paper something great that happened, and you

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Speaker 1: the start of the last week of the year, in

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Speaker 1: my oldest traditions and the jar is my newest. Jessica,

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Speaker 1: why didn't you post your Spotify wrapped? I mean, no

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Speaker 1: one is surprised. Tovlo is my top artist. I think

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Speaker 1: which is really wild. You know, it's wild when you're

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Speaker 1: So yeah, she's She's my top. We'll be back in

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Speaker 1: Claire asks, ooh, oh goodness. I like that you said

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Speaker 1: she gave me options. She said, what are your goals

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Speaker 1: do believe that thinking about goals is great. So since

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Speaker 1: I think it's the season to start getting realistic, Like

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Speaker 1: I'm not a robot. And I'm also old habits die

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Speaker 1: hard kids, So let's get realistic. What I do want

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Speaker 1: let them philosophy, And basically what Mel says is, look,

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