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Speaker 2: Oh my god, I cannot wait to hear this story.

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Speaker 1: Hello everyone, I gotta tell you it's definitely been a

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Speaker 1: It's so crazy what just happened to me.

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Speaker 2: A little bit of setup. So it's right now, it's

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Speaker 2: almost seven o'clock here. Kelly and I were scheduled to

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Speaker 2: as I can. I said, oh, oh no, are you okay?

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Speaker 3: First of all, Chip has been across the world for

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Speaker 1: And yes, let me start by saying, I'm so sorry.

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Speaker 1: mean all week next week, and so I'm like and

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00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:47,240
Speaker 1: they said weekends don't count. I'm like, so she is

435
00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:50,159
Speaker 1: in the in the working business hours, yeah, seventy two hours.

436
00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:53,000
Speaker 4: And I was like, what I go, I have to

437
00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:55,679
Speaker 4: go to work. I can't do that. What do you?

438
00:20:55,960 --> 00:20:56,159
Speaker 3: I go?

439
00:20:56,280 --> 00:20:58,560
Speaker 1: My job is not a job like they give a shit.

440
00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:01,639
Speaker 1: But I'm like, my job is a job that I

441
00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:03,880
Speaker 1: can just like call and sick for. That's not how

442
00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:06,359
Speaker 1: my life works, Like I have to go to work,

443
00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:09,080
Speaker 1: you know, like I'm scheduled or whatever. And she said, well,

444
00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:11,040
Speaker 1: I would advise you not to set foot on property.

445
00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:14,080
Speaker 1: Then again, they're getting me here, but I didn't realize that.

446
00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:16,560
Speaker 1: So I pull She's like, I'm going to send you

447
00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:20,120
Speaker 1: some paperwork and we can talk through a you can

448
00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:23,639
Speaker 1: post bail basically so that I didn't have to go.

449
00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:26,960
Speaker 1: So again, all this sounded because they had convinced.

450
00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:29,240
Speaker 2: Some pretty legit to me, I mean, it's like, you know,

451
00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:32,360
Speaker 2: what's crazy to me is how well fucking thought out

452
00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:32,760
Speaker 2: this is.

453
00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:35,080
Speaker 4: It's so fucked up.

454
00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:37,679
Speaker 1: Like I started to be like, are these former like

455
00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:38,840
Speaker 1: corrupt cops?

456
00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:39,240
Speaker 3: Even?

457
00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:41,920
Speaker 2: But yeah, where did where? Where do they get the knowledge?

458
00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:43,840
Speaker 2: Where do they find each other to be able to

459
00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:46,880
Speaker 2: like be a good team, Like, it's all so crazy

460
00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:47,119
Speaker 2: to me.

461
00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:50,240
Speaker 1: Anyway, and they put me on with multiple people.

462
00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:51,040
Speaker 4: So she's on with me.

463
00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:53,159
Speaker 2: She had to set up a voicemail you know what

464
00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:53,600
Speaker 2: I mean.

465
00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:57,480
Speaker 1: And full voicemail they like. So they basically put me

466
00:21:57,520 --> 00:22:01,000
Speaker 1: on with her. She tells me that I'm gonna She's like, well,

467
00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:04,520
Speaker 1: the fees for the bond are forty five hundred or something,

468
00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:06,240
Speaker 1: and then your court fees on top of that for

469
00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:09,520
Speaker 1: missing court it put it at sixty five hundred dollars,

470
00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:10,560
Speaker 1: And I'm like.

471
00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:11,600
Speaker 4: Oh my god.

472
00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:15,520
Speaker 1: So I basically I'm sitting here like okay, what I

473
00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:17,240
Speaker 1: was I was just like, I'm just.

474
00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:19,360
Speaker 4: I'm gonna figure that out and I'm gonna.

475
00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:20,320
Speaker 2: Be like, do you take cards?

476
00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:20,960
Speaker 4: Well?

477
00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:24,960
Speaker 1: And so then I was just like I literally say,

478
00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:27,280
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh my god. But I was like, wait,

479
00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:30,280
Speaker 1: so if I pay that today? Though, when I actually

480
00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:33,000
Speaker 1: go to court and this is all like figured out

481
00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:35,560
Speaker 1: that I didn't do anything or whatever, I was like.

482
00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:36,960
Speaker 4: Do I get that back?

483
00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:39,880
Speaker 1: And the lady was like, you can file to get

484
00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:41,840
Speaker 1: your bond back or whatever if you feel like it

485
00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:44,679
Speaker 1: was unlawfully done. I don't even know if that you

486
00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:46,800
Speaker 1: can do that or if that's not even true either.

487
00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:49,680
Speaker 1: But basically, so I'm just thinking, Okay, well, I'm just

488
00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:51,320
Speaker 1: gonna have to pay this and then when I go

489
00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:54,560
Speaker 1: to court, I'll argue to get it back or whatever,

490
00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:56,920
Speaker 1: you know. But I'm sitting there. So then they put

491
00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:59,720
Speaker 1: me on with another guy. And then then though this

492
00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:02,120
Speaker 1: is what they did that really kind of fucked me up.

493
00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:05,480
Speaker 1: They I had asked for that paperwork earlier, you know that.

494
00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:06,280
Speaker 4: I had signed.

495
00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:09,400
Speaker 1: They must have gone and created it in the meantime

496
00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:13,040
Speaker 1: of me driving there or whatever. Because I was finally like,

497
00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:15,679
Speaker 1: I don't understand, like what do I need to go do?

498
00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:16,040
Speaker 3: Then?

499
00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:18,240
Speaker 1: How do I even pay bond? Do I just come

500
00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:20,760
Speaker 1: in there and whatever, and they said no, because so

501
00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:23,000
Speaker 1: they get you because they're like, no, do not set

502
00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:25,239
Speaker 1: foot on the property or we will have to detain you.

503
00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:25,879
Speaker 4: Again.

504
00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:28,600
Speaker 1: This doesn't seem real now and I feel like an idiot.

505
00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:31,320
Speaker 1: But in the moment they're saying all this stuff that

506
00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:33,760
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh my god. Okay, So I had pulled

507
00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:36,960
Speaker 1: over to this gas station. They send me now all

508
00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:41,639
Speaker 1: of this paperwork, and in the paperwork was my court

509
00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:44,520
Speaker 1: filing that looked like I had missed court, and it

510
00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:47,520
Speaker 1: was all the documentation of that. Then they sent me

511
00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:51,320
Speaker 1: this paperwork that was supposed to be from the post

512
00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:54,280
Speaker 1: office the signature I'd had, and they had forged my

513
00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:56,520
Speaker 1: signature on side.

514
00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:58,560
Speaker 2: Looks did it look like your signature?

515
00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:02,240
Speaker 1: So I am initially was like that does not. I said,

516
00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:07,160
Speaker 1: that's not my signature, and I responded with with that

517
00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:10,280
Speaker 1: and I felt very confident in that. But then it

518
00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:12,280
Speaker 1: started going in my head. You know when like ups

519
00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:14,080
Speaker 1: comes to your house and I don't know if this

520
00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:15,879
Speaker 1: happens to anyone else, but I order it because of

521
00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:19,760
Speaker 1: like my wardrobe job. I get big packages like with

522
00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:23,119
Speaker 1: like that are high money or whatever, Yeah, and you

523
00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:24,640
Speaker 1: have to sign for it. Will they make you sign

524
00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:27,160
Speaker 1: on this little machine that you're kind of like doing

525
00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:30,760
Speaker 1: really quickly and like scriggly, and it looked like.

526
00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:34,080
Speaker 4: That, like it almost like dig. Yeah.

527
00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:36,000
Speaker 1: And so then I had also it had a date

528
00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:38,199
Speaker 1: on it, and I looked at my date and it

529
00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:40,639
Speaker 1: was a date that I was working from home. It

530
00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:43,080
Speaker 1: happened to be this date that I was here and

531
00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:45,840
Speaker 1: I was recording a bunch of stuff. And so it

532
00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:47,480
Speaker 1: wasn't a day that I was like, oh I could

533
00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:48,800
Speaker 1: that I could be like, oh I wasn't.

534
00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:52,280
Speaker 4: I was not in town, which is freaky that they was.

535
00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:54,680
Speaker 2: The date that that guy knocked on your door by any.

536
00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:56,600
Speaker 1: Chance, No, that that was today that that guy not.

537
00:24:56,840 --> 00:25:00,399
Speaker 1: Oh okay, so it was probably maybe it was just

538
00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:02,760
Speaker 1: a fluke. I don't know though, because it had like

539
00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:05,800
Speaker 1: a time, like it had the exact time that I

540
00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:08,959
Speaker 1: had signed apparently and all this stuff, which now is

541
00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:11,399
Speaker 1: like freaky because I'm like, they have my address.

542
00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:14,720
Speaker 2: They maybe maybe it's somebody that works for UPS.

543
00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:18,320
Speaker 1: Could be I don't know, but no, but like no,

544
00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:20,200
Speaker 1: it wouldn't be because this is not real.

545
00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:23,600
Speaker 4: That didn't happen. There was no paperwork that.

546
00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:26,199
Speaker 2: I well, no, I know what you're saying. But like

547
00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:29,560
Speaker 2: that would know out with criminal knows your address, they

548
00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:31,679
Speaker 2: know your name, they know you're there, and they were

549
00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:35,600
Speaker 2: able to take a picture of your digital signature, you

550
00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:36,160
Speaker 2: know what I mean.

551
00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:40,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe it could be, but really, what my dad

552
00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:43,520
Speaker 1: said when we finally talked was that he's realized since

553
00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:45,960
Speaker 1: the PPP lungs because he got him too for his business,

554
00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:51,040
Speaker 1: and he's realized that that information is like public knowledge, right,

555
00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:53,200
Speaker 1: you can go search it so they can find out

556
00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:55,320
Speaker 1: all sorts of because the thing that was throwing me

557
00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:56,800
Speaker 1: is they knew the exact amount.

558
00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:57,199
Speaker 4: I had gotten.

559
00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:02,760
Speaker 1: They knew like the date I had received it. Yeah, right,

560
00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:07,000
Speaker 1: So it's just fucking scary and like anyway, and all

561
00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:09,320
Speaker 1: that information to be public, like I'd try to keep

562
00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:11,520
Speaker 1: things kind of private, you know, with stuff like that,

563
00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:14,959
Speaker 1: and that wasn't but I didn't even think about that.

564
00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:18,359
Speaker 1: But somehow some database has probably been hacked or leaked

565
00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:21,800
Speaker 1: or whatever. So basically then I started to kind of

566
00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:24,280
Speaker 1: when they started talking about money, I was like, I

567
00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:26,560
Speaker 1: got out, So I started texting my parents the paperwork

568
00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:28,680
Speaker 1: because I had finally stopped driving at this point too.

569
00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:31,040
Speaker 1: So I'm texting my parents and I'm saying to my parents.

570
00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:32,879
Speaker 1: I'm texting my boyfriend and my parents and I'm like,

571
00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:36,800
Speaker 1: I need help, here's what's happening whatever. All three of

572
00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:38,760
Speaker 1: them have now told me the same thing that they

573
00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:42,439
Speaker 1: thought that my phone had been hacked and that someone

574
00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:45,040
Speaker 1: was trying to get them to pay money because I

575
00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:47,040
Speaker 1: couldn't because my mom tried to call me and I

576
00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:49,199
Speaker 1: wouldn't answer because I was like, I can't get on

577
00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:52,480
Speaker 1: the other line. So my parents kind of stopped responding

578
00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:55,320
Speaker 1: because they were trying to figure out if they were

579
00:26:55,400 --> 00:27:00,640
Speaker 1: being scammed through my phone or whatever. So thankfully have

580
00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:03,120
Speaker 1: a lawyer friend that I was like, oh my god, okay,

581
00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:07,000
Speaker 1: I'll text him, kind of embarrassing because it's like, you

582
00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:09,760
Speaker 1: sound crazy, but I sent him the paperwork and I said,

583
00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:11,520
Speaker 1: this is what's happening. They won't let me get off

584
00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:13,840
Speaker 1: the phone. I don't know what to do. They're asking

585
00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:15,840
Speaker 1: me to pay this money. And he calls me immediately too,

586
00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:17,040
Speaker 1: and I said the same thing back to him, I

587
00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:19,040
Speaker 1: can't get off this police officer I'm on the other

588
00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:22,159
Speaker 1: line with is not letting me get off the phone.

589
00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:26,200
Speaker 1: They also wouldn't ever really let me read the paperwork

590
00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:28,480
Speaker 1: because they kept saying, well, did you read the paperwork?

591
00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:30,399
Speaker 1: I don't understand why you still have questions, like it

592
00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:32,159
Speaker 1: feels like you're just not wanting to comply.

593
00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:33,920
Speaker 4: And I'm like, no, I haven't.

594
00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:36,400
Speaker 1: Been able to read the paperwork because you guys keep

595
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:39,120
Speaker 1: transferring me to someone else to I'm forced to keep

596
00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:41,960
Speaker 1: talking or listening to something because I'm trying to understand

597
00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:45,040
Speaker 1: what's going on. And no, I haven't been able to

598
00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:46,639
Speaker 1: read the paperwork. But I had read enough of the

599
00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:48,960
Speaker 1: paperwork to see my signature, to see the date, to

600
00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:50,960
Speaker 1: see my address, to see the money, to see that,

601
00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:55,199
Speaker 1: you know whatever. So my lawyer, though, kept calling me like,

602
00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:58,359
Speaker 1: he kept calling me, and I finally just merged the

603
00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:01,879
Speaker 1: calls with the fake call and the lawyer, and I said,

604
00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:05,520
Speaker 1: I said, Steven, first of all, this guy's a fucking angel,

605
00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:08,000
Speaker 1: and I would recommend him to anyone. But I won't

606
00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:10,720
Speaker 1: say his name. That keeps ay anonimity. But his first

607
00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:13,840
Speaker 1: name is Stephen. But I said, Steven, you're on the

608
00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:16,600
Speaker 1: phone with the police. They're telling me that I need

609
00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:18,840
Speaker 1: to go get a bond or whatever. And he literally

610
00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:21,639
Speaker 1: the guy starts talking for a second and Stephen just goes, Kelly.

611
00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:23,920
Speaker 4: Hang up the phone. He's like, hang up the phone.

612
00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:24,480
Speaker 4: I'll call you back.

613
00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:26,280
Speaker 1: Hang up the phone, Hang up the phone, Hang up

614
00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:28,040
Speaker 1: the phone, Hang up the phone. I had been on

615
00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:31,680
Speaker 1: this call for two hours, y'all. Oh, and I'm sobbing

616
00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:35,000
Speaker 1: in a fucking gas station parking lot in downtown Nashville,

617
00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:39,160
Speaker 1: basically two minutes from the Sheriff's department that if I

618
00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:42,280
Speaker 1: had gone to. Obviously they would have been like, ma'am,

619
00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:44,760
Speaker 1: this is not real, which is why they didn't want

620
00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:46,960
Speaker 1: me to go. But I finally hung up the phone,

621
00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:48,560
Speaker 1: get back on the phone with Steven, and he's like,

622
00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:52,400
Speaker 1: this is happening so much in America. The PPP stuff

623
00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:57,720
Speaker 1: is like the new scam, and they get you because

624
00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:02,480
Speaker 1: they don't mention the money until so far in. But basically,

625
00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:05,120
Speaker 1: when I went back and now I've looked at the paperwork,

626
00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:07,800
Speaker 1: what they do is they're telling me I needed to

627
00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:10,560
Speaker 1: go to my financial institution. Because I was like, you

628
00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:12,800
Speaker 1: guys won't tell me who I need to get a

629
00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:15,480
Speaker 1: money order made out because I was just thinking it

630
00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:18,760
Speaker 1: wouldn't They wouldn't take first of all, credit cards, but

631
00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:23,360
Speaker 1: they wouldn't take cash either, Like I was like, I

632
00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:25,080
Speaker 1: didn't have a check book, so I was thinking I

633
00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:27,040
Speaker 1: needed to go get a money order or they kept

634
00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:27,920
Speaker 1: saying a bond.

635
00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:30,240
Speaker 4: So I was just like, how do I do that?

636
00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:32,440
Speaker 1: Y'all are acting like that's common knowledge, and I know

637
00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:34,320
Speaker 1: you guys deal with this every day. That's what I

638
00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:37,280
Speaker 1: was thinking. But I was like, I don't. I'm a

639
00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:40,320
Speaker 1: regular person. I don't know how to do this stuff.

640
00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:43,280
Speaker 1: I've never like, I don't commit crimes. This isn't something

641
00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:45,680
Speaker 1: that I'm like used to when you say a bond

642
00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:47,240
Speaker 1: and they're like, well, did you read the paperwork? And

643
00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:48,640
Speaker 1: that was when I said what I said about that.

644
00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:51,760
Speaker 1: But then now that I've looked at the paperwork and

645
00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:54,800
Speaker 1: what now, since I've filed a real police report about this,

646
00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:57,520
Speaker 1: they have told me is what they'll do is they'll

647
00:29:57,560 --> 00:30:01,720
Speaker 1: get you to basically it's called coin flip, which is

648
00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:04,840
Speaker 1: some form of bitcoin, and they get you to go

649
00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:08,040
Speaker 1: to this specific machine. Because basically we were on the

650
00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:12,720
Speaker 1: phone until after my bank had closed, so I couldn't

651
00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:15,160
Speaker 1: have gone to my bank. Because what started to trigger

652
00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:17,000
Speaker 1: me is I was like, you guys are telling me

653
00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:19,440
Speaker 1: to go get sixty five hundred dollars in.

654
00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:24,520
Speaker 4: Cash and walk into the sheriff's department with that much, just.

655
00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:28,520
Speaker 1: A lot of cash, Like, no, that is something about that.

656
00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:30,479
Speaker 1: I was like, that's my understanding right now. And then

657
00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:32,080
Speaker 1: they k one, well, did you read the paperwork? Did

658
00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:34,640
Speaker 1: you read the paperwork? Obviously what they wanted me to

659
00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:37,240
Speaker 1: do was go do this bitcoin thing or whatever the

660
00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:41,360
Speaker 1: coin flip thing is. And the cop that I did

661
00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:43,640
Speaker 1: file the police or the real police report was said,

662
00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:46,720
Speaker 1: once that money is gone, there is absolutely no way

663
00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:49,280
Speaker 1: to get it back. Like so I would have been

664
00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:54,560
Speaker 1: out almost seven thousand dollars. Could you fucking imagine? I

665
00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:56,720
Speaker 1: feel sick at my stomach thinking about that.

666
00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:59,640
Speaker 2: I think about think about people who don't have lawyers,

667
00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:02,840
Speaker 2: who dude aren't don't have the wayheth all the text

668
00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:07,080
Speaker 2: or get this phone call like on their landline, you know,

669
00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:09,400
Speaker 2: like they don't have another way to communicate with somebody,

670
00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:13,600
Speaker 2: Like it's terrifying. Remember Mary Hilliard had something happened to

671
00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:17,360
Speaker 2: her similar and it was like they gave they gave

672
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:21,840
Speaker 2: her the address on Broadway and it was like it

673
00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:25,480
Speaker 2: had just happened to be like one number off from Whiskey.

674
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:28,360
Speaker 4: Row or something like that, and she knew yeah, and.

675
00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:31,400
Speaker 2: She knew so like that tipped her off really, you know,

676
00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:33,280
Speaker 2: but it was still like she was on her way

677
00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:33,760
Speaker 2: down there.

678
00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:34,480
Speaker 4: Well.

679
00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:36,960
Speaker 1: I the thing that threw me is they gave me

680
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:39,959
Speaker 1: the actual sheriff Department's number, because I obviously googled it

681
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:41,840
Speaker 1: before I started driving, because I was like, I'm not

682
00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:45,120
Speaker 1: about to get raped and murdered here, Like I need

683
00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:48,040
Speaker 1: to make sure I'm actually legit going to the Sheriff's

684
00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:51,680
Speaker 1: department where when I walk in, I'm not in actual danger.

685
00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:52,720
Speaker 4: But it didn't.

686
00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:55,560
Speaker 1: The reason I was so like, no, I wouldn't feel

687
00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:58,720
Speaker 1: safe at first, because I'm like, this could still be

688
00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:02,040
Speaker 1: scammers and they're setting me up to like steal me

689
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:04,840
Speaker 1: from the shaff department's parking lot, you know. I mean

690
00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:08,240
Speaker 1: there's also so much trafficking that happens. It's so startling.

691
00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:10,959
Speaker 1: It's startling as anyone, but as a woman, it's like

692
00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:13,720
Speaker 1: a level up of just how do I keep myself

693
00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:17,320
Speaker 1: safe and protected? Because I just was like imagining the

694
00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:20,320
Speaker 1: worst obviously. And the thing was, it's like to your

695
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:25,320
Speaker 1: point about like I just want to say I'm not stupid, y'all.

696
00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:28,760
Speaker 2: Like the workshop this they figured out an answer for

697
00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:31,600
Speaker 2: every question that you can possibly throw your way and

698
00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:34,240
Speaker 2: clearly there's probably more than one of them in the room,

699
00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:34,920
Speaker 2: and they're.

700
00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:37,200
Speaker 4: Like, they put me on the phone with at least.

701
00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:40,280
Speaker 2: Four of us, right, so they're all listening and they're

702
00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:44,080
Speaker 2: probably hitting mute and stuff, and when you're saying things,

703
00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:46,239
Speaker 2: they're figuring out what their response is going to be.

704
00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:49,320
Speaker 1: Well, the police, the real police told me. He was like,

705
00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:51,640
Speaker 1: they have a script that they follow and they know

706
00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:53,600
Speaker 1: this that. He was like, they've probably called ten people

707
00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:56,960
Speaker 1: since they've called you, Like it's just happening so frequently,

708
00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:01,600
Speaker 1: and I they got me really far process, Like I'm

709
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:04,360
Speaker 1: sure some people don't ever call that number back, but

710
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:06,760
Speaker 1: they just they caught me on the right day kind

711
00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:08,880
Speaker 1: of thing, you know, like I was just tired enough.

712
00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:12,840
Speaker 1: I had just enough real life situations happening that made

713
00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:14,800
Speaker 1: me think, in my head, I need to call this

714
00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:18,720
Speaker 1: number back, like it seemed legit enough. And then they

715
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:22,400
Speaker 1: they hooked me enough with the way that they were

716
00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:27,600
Speaker 1: telling the story. And again, the personal information that they

717
00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:32,600
Speaker 1: have is like stressful because you're just like, well if.

718
00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:37,200
Speaker 2: They had and most people aren't as private, so it's

719
00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:39,880
Speaker 2: really easy for those people to have that information.

720
00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:43,040
Speaker 1: Most people you can just google their name and figure

721
00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:45,680
Speaker 1: out where they live, their number, they're all their stuff

722
00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:49,640
Speaker 1: and like, and I really because whenever I was on

723
00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:52,720
Speaker 1: that TV show and you know, getting death threats and shit,

724
00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:56,160
Speaker 1: I really tried to like start protecting myself in a

725
00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:59,120
Speaker 1: new kind of way. And the thing my mom said

726
00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:00,760
Speaker 1: to me that I never even thought about was she

727
00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:02,920
Speaker 1: was like, you're texting us, and I thought your phone

728
00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:05,520
Speaker 1: had been taken over at first, And then she said

729
00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:09,120
Speaker 1: and then also like you have a public platform, like

730
00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:12,080
Speaker 1: she said, even if someone had called me with your

731
00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:14,839
Speaker 1: voice saying this stuff, She's like, now with AI, I'm

732
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:17,440
Speaker 1: getting so stressed out that they could have like mimicked

733
00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:21,600
Speaker 1: your voice. Like our voices chip are everywhere, right. That's

734
00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:24,879
Speaker 1: actually how people recognize me more often than my face now.

735
00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:27,160
Speaker 1: Is like if I start talking at something, they're like, oh,

736
00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:29,640
Speaker 1: do you have that podcast? You know, Like it's so

737
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:32,680
Speaker 1: it loo's scary in some ways because it's like you

738
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:35,399
Speaker 1: want to do the things like we do. But this

739
00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:37,680
Speaker 1: kind of stuff makes me want to just like crawl

740
00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:40,080
Speaker 1: into a bunker with all my people and just like

741
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:42,480
Speaker 1: cut it all off, you know, like go back to

742
00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:46,280
Speaker 1: complete privacy where no one knows anything about you. Because

743
00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:49,160
Speaker 1: I mean you could get your identity stolen. You can

744
00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:52,200
Speaker 1: get scammed, like all the things. Like I've lost so

745
00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:55,360
Speaker 1: many tears. I'm fucking exhausted. My nervous system is shot.

746
00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:59,279
Speaker 1: Like thank god that my lawyer answered at the right

747
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:02,200
Speaker 1: time and such a giving person and like so kind.

748
00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:05,000
Speaker 1: Thank god my parents. My parents had called the Nashville

749
00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:07,279
Speaker 1: Police Department and they also said she needs to hang

750
00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:09,680
Speaker 1: up the phone. They both texted me that, like right

751
00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:13,280
Speaker 1: when my lawyer got on the phone with me, right right, Yeah.

752
00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:16,200
Speaker 1: But like my mom missed her hair appointment because she

753
00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:19,640
Speaker 1: didn't want to. I know that sounds small, but I ruined,

754
00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:23,600
Speaker 1: not ruined, But this has like affected so many people's days.

755
00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:26,040
Speaker 1: Like my boyfriend missed a meeting, like he was like

756
00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:29,800
Speaker 1: all stressed out about it, Like so so many people

757
00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:33,200
Speaker 1: were impacted by this, and you like we didn't get

758
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:34,200
Speaker 1: to record on time.

759
00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:37,680
Speaker 4: You're like, is she alive? What the fuck is happening?

760
00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:43,120
Speaker 1: But it's just like I didn't know what to do

761
00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:47,320
Speaker 1: and I was doing I literally just had this vision of, uh,

762
00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:49,560
Speaker 1: like I'm going to be in jail and no one's

763
00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:51,919
Speaker 1: gonna know where I am and it's going to take

764
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:54,720
Speaker 1: them forever to find me because no one would imagine

765
00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:56,920
Speaker 1: that I would just be in jail, you know, like

766
00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:58,960
Speaker 1: it's not like you're checking jails for me if you

767
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:02,319
Speaker 1: can't find me. And it just was so it's like

768
00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:05,000
Speaker 1: I need to just fire off information as quick as

769
00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:08,040
Speaker 1: I can that that if something did happen like that,

770
00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:09,799
Speaker 1: you guys could like figure it.

771
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:11,200
Speaker 4: Out or find it right.

772
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:13,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it felt like that, and it made me

773
00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:18,560
Speaker 1: feel so sad about like anyone who's been wrongfully arrested

774
00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:20,840
Speaker 1: or any of that stuff. But I know it happens

775
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:24,440
Speaker 1: all the time, but this scam stuff is Whi's just

776
00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:27,440
Speaker 1: like so freaky about our culture right now.

777
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:31,040
Speaker 2: It's wild. I mean, people are desperate, they'll do anything,

778
00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:34,440
Speaker 2: and sixty five dollars for two hours of work is

779
00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:35,520
Speaker 2: not bad money.

780
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:39,200
Speaker 4: Oh no, you know in cash.

781
00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:42,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, but and think about I just wonder how many

782
00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:45,879
Speaker 1: people actually do it and like the other thing that.

783
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:47,840
Speaker 2: Gets a multi billion dollar business.

784
00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:48,680
Speaker 4: It makes me.

785
00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:50,880
Speaker 1: Really sad because I bet a lot of people who

786
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:54,239
Speaker 1: don't really have that money to give are giving it.

787
00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:56,799
Speaker 4: Yeah you know what I mean, Like then they.

788
00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:59,640
Speaker 1: Can't pay their fucking mortgage because they've lost in Like

789
00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:02,480
Speaker 1: thep said, there's no way they're getting that back, and

790
00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:05,839
Speaker 1: it's like, there's no way that the cops are I mean,

791
00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:08,040
Speaker 1: I filed a police report and they'd sent me all

792
00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:10,640
Speaker 1: that paperwork, you know, and so I sent that to

793
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:12,480
Speaker 1: a person. But do I have high hopes that they're

794
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:13,520
Speaker 1: going to find these people?

795
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:14,000
Speaker 3: No?

796
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:17,719
Speaker 1: I mean I mostly reported it because I wanted to

797
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:20,040
Speaker 1: request some drive buys by my house because I'm scared

798
00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:20,759
Speaker 1: because these people have.

799
00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:22,560
Speaker 2: My address, right right.

800
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:25,719
Speaker 1: I mean, hopefully it's just one of those things that.

801
00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:28,480
Speaker 4: They well, they're probably not even we don't.

802
00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:31,000
Speaker 1: Even know if they're here, right, Like, like, I'm just

803
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:33,640
Speaker 1: hoping that it's just a situation where they were trying

804
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:35,080
Speaker 1: to get me to send money somewhere.

805
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:37,400
Speaker 2: So unbelievable.

806
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:39,960
Speaker 1: But my dad was like, yeah, they're targeting all the

807
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:42,800
Speaker 1: PPP people because they can see how much money you got.

808
00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:45,279
Speaker 1: First of all, though, I'm like, it's twenty twenty three,

809
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:46,960
Speaker 1: do you have money?

810
00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:49,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, you had a mortgage.

811
00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:50,600
Speaker 4: To pay exactly.

812
00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:53,000
Speaker 1: Like that was what kept me afloat that that money

813
00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:55,880
Speaker 1: is not he's still here. But I think that, you know,

814
00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:58,120
Speaker 1: I don't know, they just know the people at some

815
00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:00,960
Speaker 1: point had x amount of money.

816
00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:04,040
Speaker 2: So well, and it's just all the infos there. It

817
00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:06,719
Speaker 2: gives them all the clues that they need. Mm hmm,

818
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:10,400
Speaker 2: and yeah, it's fucking wild.

819
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:11,640
Speaker 4: Can you believe it?

820
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:14,640
Speaker 2: Could you? How scared would you have been if you,

821
00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:16,160
Speaker 2: like the call had dropped.

822
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:19,720
Speaker 1: Well, I think I would have If the call had dropped,

823
00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:21,400
Speaker 1: I would have been fine because I would have been like, well,

824
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:24,200
Speaker 1: they'll call me back, you know, and.

825
00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:26,520
Speaker 2: They would have they would have called it immediately, and

826
00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:28,160
Speaker 2: they would have screamed at you.

827
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:31,480
Speaker 1: To make it think it was my fault. My biggest

828
00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:35,400
Speaker 1: fear was getting arrested at work. I was just like

829
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:38,279
Speaker 1: and being stuck in jail for seventy two hours and

830
00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:40,799
Speaker 1: nobody knowing where the fuck I was like, I was.

831
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:43,919
Speaker 2: Just like, I'm gonna hire some fake cops to come

832
00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:45,480
Speaker 2: arrest you at work one day.

833
00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:48,600
Speaker 1: It literally would not be funny. It would not at

834
00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:49,400
Speaker 1: all be funny.

835
00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:52,040
Speaker 2: And then they're just going to start stripping.

836
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:54,080
Speaker 4: Well you, Oh my god. I would kill.

837
00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:59,880
Speaker 1: Literally, like I can't think of anything worse, and I

838
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:02,040
Speaker 1: I would probably also have a heart attack and like

839
00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:05,440
Speaker 1: keel over because I'm so startled right now, right, But

840
00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:08,239
Speaker 1: like it's just yeah, I just anyway, I wanted to

841
00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:10,440
Speaker 1: tell the story publicly. Sorry if that was long winded,

842
00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:14,440
Speaker 1: you guys, But I just if you get a call

843
00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:17,240
Speaker 1: like that and they especially if they're making you stay

844
00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:19,759
Speaker 1: on the phone. That was what the cop kept reiterating

845
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:21,760
Speaker 1: to me, is if they make you stay on the phone,

846
00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:26,080
Speaker 1: it's a scam. And he was just like, the funny

847
00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:29,840
Speaker 1: thing is, so they're like, I call the non emergency

848
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:32,080
Speaker 1: Nashville line of the police Department and I'm talking to

849
00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:33,799
Speaker 1: him and he was like, okay, well, just so you know,

850
00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:37,040
Speaker 1: like in the future, no cop would ever call you

851
00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:39,239
Speaker 1: like that, and he was and then he's like, we're

852
00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:40,880
Speaker 1: talking for a second. I was like, okay, okay, And

853
00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:42,600
Speaker 1: so we were talking for a second and he's like,

854
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:44,880
Speaker 1: I tell him I have that paperwork, and he said, actually,

855
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:47,000
Speaker 1: I really think you should file a real police report

856
00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:49,200
Speaker 1: about this, because like first he kind of thought I

857
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:50,800
Speaker 1: was just like at first, I was just calling to

858
00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:53,200
Speaker 1: kind of report and ask for some drive bys tonight.

859
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:57,160
Speaker 1: But then he said, I think you should file an

860
00:39:57,200 --> 00:40:00,319
Speaker 1: actual police report because the information you have, and he said,

861
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:02,279
Speaker 1: I'll have the cop call you back. And then he goes,

862
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:07,319
Speaker 1: oh hmm, because it's like caught himself. He just had

863
00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:09,359
Speaker 1: told me a cop will never call you. And then

864
00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:12,000
Speaker 1: he was like, I'll have the detective call you at

865
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:13,680
Speaker 1: this time. And I was like, see, right, how do

866
00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:16,040
Speaker 1: I know this is a real detective? Like when the

867
00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:18,160
Speaker 1: detective called me to fill out the police report, they

868
00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:20,840
Speaker 1: asked you for your driver's license number, and I was like, okay,

869
00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:24,160
Speaker 1: sorry sir, but I have literally just been through the

870
00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:27,480
Speaker 1: ringer with scammers. How do I know that I am

871
00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:28,560
Speaker 1: safe to give.

872
00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:29,479
Speaker 4: You this right now?

873
00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:31,520
Speaker 1: Like, and he had to talk me through it because

874
00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:34,360
Speaker 1: I was so nervous about giving that information over the phone.

875
00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:38,120
Speaker 2: Right. Oh yeah, yoie.

876
00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:42,600
Speaker 1: Anyway, so welcome back to America, Chip, thank you.

877
00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:47,239
Speaker 2: Okay, it would have gotten me today too, because I'm

878
00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:47,919
Speaker 2: tired as hell.

879
00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:50,200
Speaker 1: So I can't imagine your jet lag. I mean, your

880
00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:52,040
Speaker 1: whole plane story is for another.

881
00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:53,160
Speaker 4: Day because it's show.

882
00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:57,080
Speaker 2: United Airlines. I'm coming for you.

883
00:40:58,239 --> 00:40:59,640
Speaker 4: Watch up now.

884
00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:01,800
Speaker 2: I would wish I had been more active on Twitter

885
00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:03,680
Speaker 2: because I don't know what the followers for them. They care,

886
00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:07,200
Speaker 2: but maybe there's enough listeners here so they better do

887
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:09,240
Speaker 2: the right thing or I'm coming for them for a rekay.

888
00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:14,399
Speaker 1: Okay, So we're taking out United Airlines and scammers pepeople worldwide.

889
00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:19,720
Speaker 1: Watch out the Velvet Edge podcast has just completely changed

890
00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:22,880
Speaker 1: this whole identity and all we are now is trying

891
00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:26,719
Speaker 1: to take out the word undercover. Yeah, we do have

892
00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:28,479
Speaker 1: a new topic for you guys. It's the first week

893
00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:31,440
Speaker 1: of the month of November. It's kind of wrapping up

894
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:35,040
Speaker 1: twenty twenty three here, and I know, honestly October was

895
00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:38,239
Speaker 1: a little wild, but I felt like, hopefully you guys

896
00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:40,440
Speaker 1: kept your head on straight. I know the energy was

897
00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:43,160
Speaker 1: just insanely intense for a lot of people with all

898
00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:46,680
Speaker 1: the eclipses and things of that nature. But we're moving

899
00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:50,400
Speaker 1: into a new month. I did do my astrology report

900
00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:54,680
Speaker 1: with Marv a little bit sketchy as well, but you

901
00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:56,600
Speaker 1: guys go check that out. We do have a new

902
00:41:56,640 --> 00:41:59,040
Speaker 1: word for you guys. We have a new theme. We

903
00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:02,240
Speaker 1: have a new word, and it kind of I feel

904
00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:04,520
Speaker 1: like I sort of would embrace it right now, like

905
00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:07,279
Speaker 1: shake it off, you know. But do you want to

906
00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:08,960
Speaker 1: introduce a chip or would you like me too?

907
00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:10,000
Speaker 2: I would like you too.

908
00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:12,319
Speaker 4: Okay, you're too jetlagged for it.

909
00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:13,520
Speaker 2: I'm jegged.

910
00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:16,719
Speaker 1: Basically, what we thought about when I was thinking about

911
00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:18,799
Speaker 1: the month of November and just some of the guests

912
00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:22,879
Speaker 1: that we have coming on and sort of where I

913
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:26,160
Speaker 1: am is in this kind of part of the year

914
00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:28,000
Speaker 1: and where I've heard a lot of my friends say

915
00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:30,640
Speaker 1: they are as well. And when you look outside and

916
00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:32,680
Speaker 1: you see the trees and they're dropping all the leaves,

917
00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:36,920
Speaker 1: I just kept thinking about the word shedding, like shedding

918
00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:39,799
Speaker 1: letting go like that was a huge part of the

919
00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:43,040
Speaker 1: eclipse season as well, was just letting go of old beliefs,

920
00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:46,040
Speaker 1: old habits, old relationships, old things that weren't serving you.

921
00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:48,880
Speaker 1: And it just it's like you look outside in Nashville.

922
00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:50,000
Speaker 1: I don't know how it is in the rest of

923
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:52,279
Speaker 1: the world, but you look outside in Nashville and the

924
00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:56,520
Speaker 1: leaves are literally just falling by the minute, just dropping, dropping, dropping.

925
00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:59,080
Speaker 1: It's like the trees are clearing out, they're getting ready

926
00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:01,279
Speaker 1: for winter and for the and the new spring. And

927
00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:04,800
Speaker 1: so this month we kind of just wanted to focus

928
00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:07,960
Speaker 1: on shedding, like what are you shedding? What are your

929
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:10,719
Speaker 1: stories of shedding? And the guests that are going to

930
00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:13,919
Speaker 1: come on are going to tell their stories of kind

931
00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:15,640
Speaker 1: of the things that they've let go of in their

932
00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:17,799
Speaker 1: lives to get to the place they are now and

933
00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:21,120
Speaker 1: what the different seasons have looked like, what it's brought

934
00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:24,319
Speaker 1: to their lives by doing the shedding process, maybe even

935
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:26,560
Speaker 1: what that has looked like, because it's not always pretty.

936
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:30,440
Speaker 1: We know it can be a little messy, and then

937
00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:31,640
Speaker 1: there's some fun stuff too.

938
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:33,400
Speaker 4: We had talked a little bit. I don't know.

939
00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:36,040
Speaker 1: If you guys haven't read Britney Spears's new book, please

940
00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:38,600
Speaker 1: get on that because we will be discussing. I finished

941
00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:41,960
Speaker 1: it in four days. It was so good. Team Brittany

942
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:45,200
Speaker 1: all the way. I just really feel for her. But

943
00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:47,680
Speaker 1: she has done doing a lot of shedding right now,

944
00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:50,799
Speaker 1: I feel so. I think there's a lot of examples

945
00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:53,520
Speaker 1: of it in our culture as well. So that is

946
00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:57,080
Speaker 1: what we'll be discussing, shedding, scatting. What are you feeling

947
00:43:57,080 --> 00:43:59,240
Speaker 1: like you want to shed? Do you have any ideas.

948
00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:04,320
Speaker 2: What do I need to shed?

949
00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:07,760
Speaker 4: Probably?

950
00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:10,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, I think there's a lot of things that

951
00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:13,880
Speaker 2: I probably need to work on shedding. And you know

952
00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:16,840
Speaker 2: that movie that I sent you today, like some of

953
00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:19,319
Speaker 2: it is just like in the way that I think

954
00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:26,800
Speaker 2: about things and just differences and embracing them a little

955
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:31,040
Speaker 2: bit more because you know, yeah, and and I well,

956
00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:33,040
Speaker 2: I think that you know the way that the world

957
00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:35,560
Speaker 2: is going, it's so easy to be really angry all

958
00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:40,080
Speaker 2: the time, and especially especially of other you know, of

959
00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:43,040
Speaker 2: things that like you don't necessarily agree with or that

960
00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:46,080
Speaker 2: they don't fall perfectly in line with your belief systems.

961
00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:52,120
Speaker 2: And you know, when I saw that documentary that I

962
00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:55,239
Speaker 2: sent you earlier today, which we may get into this month,

963
00:44:56,480 --> 00:45:00,920
Speaker 2: it just made me like think, like sometimes you know,

964
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:05,480
Speaker 2: on a cellular level, we're not as different or things

965
00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:09,160
Speaker 2: aren't as different as we think they are. And totally agree,

966
00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:12,040
Speaker 2: giving an energy that is at all negative is a

967
00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:15,720
Speaker 2: waste of my time is hurtful and all of the things.

968
00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:17,600
Speaker 2: So I think, just you know, the way that I

969
00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:22,440
Speaker 2: look at things that are different is is and the

970
00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:25,160
Speaker 2: negativity that I sometimes put towards that is the main

971
00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:26,040
Speaker 2: thing that I want to shed.

972
00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:30,000
Speaker 1: Ooh I love that. Yeah, I got to think about mine.

973
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:32,040
Speaker 1: I'm too rattled right now. I just want to shed

974
00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:33,799
Speaker 1: the energy that THO scammers put on me.

975
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:37,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, shud the shit out of that. Oh well, I'm

976
00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:39,040
Speaker 2: glad you were able to share that. I mean, what

977
00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:40,200
Speaker 2: an insane story.

978
00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:43,239
Speaker 1: It's so insane. And I honestly, like I said to you, like,

979
00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:45,279
Speaker 1: let's record in the morning and put the podcast up

980
00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:47,040
Speaker 1: late because I was so rattled, and then I thought

981
00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:48,480
Speaker 1: about it and I was like, no, I have to

982
00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:50,160
Speaker 1: tell this story because I know this is going to

983
00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:52,960
Speaker 1: happen to other people. So I just want it to

984
00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:54,440
Speaker 1: not happen to any of our live I don't want

985
00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:56,160
Speaker 1: it to happen to anyone. But I really am just

986
00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:57,960
Speaker 1: like I don't want this to happen to any of

987
00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:00,399
Speaker 1: our listeners. So I hope that if you guys get

988
00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:04,320
Speaker 1: a call that's all remotely related to what I just described,

989
00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:06,279
Speaker 1: you just hang the phone up, Just hang up, just

990
00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:08,759
Speaker 1: hang up, email.

991
00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:11,520
Speaker 4: Me, text me whatever. I'll tell you what to do.

992
00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:14,480
Speaker 2: I'm gonna text you after this a story that you

993
00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:17,880
Speaker 2: need to read because it will it will make you laugh.

994
00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:21,319
Speaker 2: But I'll also just mention here. I don't know if

995
00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:24,640
Speaker 2: our listeners will recognize the name Dave Holmes, but he

996
00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:26,440
Speaker 2: was the guy that won the Like Want to Be

997
00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:30,000
Speaker 2: a VJ contest. He's now a writer for Esquire, he

998
00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:32,360
Speaker 2: has a show on Serious, He's written a book like

999
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:36,920
Speaker 2: He's He's a friend, and years ago he something similar

1000
00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:40,359
Speaker 2: like this happened to him and he live tweeted the experience.

1001
00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:46,839
Speaker 2: But he knew that he was being scammed, so he

1002
00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:50,960
Speaker 2: leaned into it and like made them think that he

1003
00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:53,640
Speaker 2: didn't know he was being scammed and that he was like,

1004
00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:56,439
Speaker 2: my credit card pin won't work. What do I do?

1005
00:46:56,680 --> 00:46:56,880
Speaker 3: You know?

1006
00:46:57,040 --> 00:46:59,360
Speaker 2: Like, and they were giving him answers. So it's a

1007
00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:01,239
Speaker 2: really fun and so he lived me the whole thing.

1008
00:47:01,239 --> 00:47:02,680
Speaker 2: So I'll send it to you to read because maybe

1009
00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:05,000
Speaker 2: it'll bring some levity to your situations. Please.

1010
00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:07,080
Speaker 1: I wish I had known and I had done the

1011
00:47:07,120 --> 00:47:10,560
Speaker 1: same thing I did screen record. I started once that

1012
00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:12,719
Speaker 1: guy told me. He was like, man, we are on

1013
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:15,080
Speaker 1: a recorded call. And I was like good. And then

1014
00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:16,959
Speaker 1: I was like, why am I not recording this shit

1015
00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:19,919
Speaker 1: in case? Because well either way, because I was like, one,

1016
00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:22,799
Speaker 1: the way this quote unquote officer had spoken to me

1017
00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:25,400
Speaker 1: and was just cutting me off and not listening was

1018
00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:28,960
Speaker 1: not okay. And then two if this wasn't real, I

1019
00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:32,880
Speaker 1: was like, I want this documented. So luckily I have

1020
00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:34,200
Speaker 1: a couple of those things.

1021
00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:34,640
Speaker 4: I don't know.

1022
00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:37,080
Speaker 1: I hope the fucking cops find these guys. I mean,

1023
00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:39,640
Speaker 1: my lawyer was like, you can call the FBI. I

1024
00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:41,640
Speaker 1: don't know if you want to get that involved in this,

1025
00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:43,959
Speaker 1: but and who knows, you know, they don't usually catch

1026
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:47,880
Speaker 1: these people, but it seems to be very Every person

1027
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:51,000
Speaker 1: in the law enforcement world that I've told this to

1028
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:54,160
Speaker 1: is like this, Yep, that's what they do. It's like

1029
00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:59,480
Speaker 1: very common. So anyway, that's what we got for you guys.

1030
00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:01,799
Speaker 1: If you have stories that are similar and you feel

1031
00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:04,560
Speaker 1: like sharing them with me, let's unite over this topic

1032
00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:07,520
Speaker 1: because it really just rocked my world today. You can

1033
00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:10,719
Speaker 1: email us at the Edge at Velvetsedge dot com, or

1034
00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:14,360
Speaker 1: you can slide into my DMS on Instagram. I'm at Velvet's.

1035
00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:17,320
Speaker 4: Edge, Chip, I'm at Chip DOORSH It's h I P

1036
00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:19,279
Speaker 4: D O R S c CH.

1037
00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:23,080
Speaker 1: I'm telling this one to myself right now. But unless

1038
00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:26,400
Speaker 1: you guys go into the weekend and you're living on

1039
00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:29,400
Speaker 1: the edge, I really hope that we all can.

1040
00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:33,400
Speaker 4: Just remember too a casual lord.

1041
00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:34,399
Speaker 1: I need that right now.

1042
00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:37,400
Speaker 4: Bye,