1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:06,320 Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL Podcast, making their mama's proud at 2 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:11,039 Speaker 1: the Pink Pony Club's Welcome to another edition to the 3 00:00:11,080 --> 00:00:13,960 Speaker 1: Around the NFL Podcast. My name is Dan Hans is 4 00:00:14,040 --> 00:00:17,000 Speaker 1: coming to you from a virtual room filled with heroes, 5 00:00:17,040 --> 00:00:20,960 Speaker 1: Greg Rosenthal, Mark Sessler. Oh, and he's back, the great 6 00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:25,680 Speaker 1: Patrick clay bannuzz that boys, very I don't know if 7 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:28,200 Speaker 1: I've earned the qualifiered ring, but it's it's great to 8 00:00:28,200 --> 00:00:31,560 Speaker 1: be with you guys. I can confirm that that was 9 00:00:31,560 --> 00:00:34,479 Speaker 1: a great money intro right there. Did he say mommy's 10 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:37,200 Speaker 1: or either way mommy's or mama's coming out of his mouth? 11 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:41,879 Speaker 1: Just it was funny. Uh, Patrick, Good to see you 12 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:46,640 Speaker 1: as I expected. The quarantine is treating you well. The 13 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 1: pandemic you're you look like you're beach ready right now, 14 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:54,280 Speaker 1: sitting on the floor with your arms crossed over your knees, 15 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:57,800 Speaker 1: all calm, cool and collected and absolutely beautiful as always. 16 00:00:57,840 --> 00:01:00,959 Speaker 1: So congratulations on being Patrick clay On once again. Well, 17 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:03,120 Speaker 1: I am just basking in the glow of all of 18 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:05,880 Speaker 1: you gentlemen today. You know, I'm I'm huddled on the 19 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:08,760 Speaker 1: floor of my baby girls room. Uh, the chair that 20 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 1: I was sitting and actually fell apart subsequently before the 21 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:14,120 Speaker 1: microphone that I was going to use fell apart, So 22 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:22,679 Speaker 1: very extraordinarily it's not working out, but hey, uh, we 23 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 1: get to spend time together and still got your electricity 24 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:29,280 Speaker 1: though the lights are on. The lights are on alright. 25 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:32,240 Speaker 1: So great to have Clay Bond back with us on 26 00:01:32,319 --> 00:01:36,679 Speaker 1: a very busy show. We are going to dig in 27 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:39,680 Speaker 1: on the mess down there in Houston with the Texans 28 00:01:39,760 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 1: after the surprise firing of Bill O'Brien. And we're having 29 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:45,880 Speaker 1: a friend to the show, uh down there in Houston, 30 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:48,920 Speaker 1: Seth Payne. He's gonna join us to talk about what 31 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:52,720 Speaker 1: happens next in Houston. And and I was perusing Seth's 32 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 1: Twitter account. He's pretty fired up about what direction they 33 00:01:55,080 --> 00:01:57,720 Speaker 1: should go and and the belief that they should not 34 00:01:57,760 --> 00:02:00,400 Speaker 1: be done with their firings at Bill O'Brien. But we'll 35 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:05,000 Speaker 1: get to all that. Also, Thursday night football preview to come, 36 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:09,200 Speaker 1: uh in the game between who Mark It will be 37 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:13,120 Speaker 1: a game between the Bears, very exciting and the Bucks. 38 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:16,680 Speaker 1: One of many primetime games for the Bucks. I always 39 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:19,280 Speaker 1: love when you dropped like the pop quiz question on me, 40 00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 1: like it's it's a great way to you know, build 41 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:25,639 Speaker 1: rapport with me, assuming I get the question right, marks 42 00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:29,400 Speaker 1: here for Thursday, baby, absolutely, and we'll check in on 43 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 1: what's going on right now in the league in this 44 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 1: uncertainty around COVID nineteen and the team's affected. But before 45 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:38,800 Speaker 1: we do that, let's start with two games played on 46 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:44,359 Speaker 1: Monday nights, starting with the rescheduled COVID nineteen postponement between 47 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 1: the Chiefs and the Patriots. Draw Peck for the honey 48 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 1: Badger tech sex type one pick six Julian Adolman last 49 00:02:56,639 --> 00:03:00,280 Speaker 1: year lead the National Football League and drops He's such 50 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:03,880 Speaker 1: a great receiver, but he lost concentration and the ball 51 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:07,400 Speaker 1: office left arm right to the waiting honey Badger, who 52 00:03:07,440 --> 00:03:09,560 Speaker 1: eats the snake and runs all the way to the 53 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:19,240 Speaker 1: end zone. Touchdown cancel six. Mitch health is w d 54 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:21,040 Speaker 1: A have a couple of things? There? He went? He 55 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 1: went for Edelman's throat there, bringing up that he has 56 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:27,119 Speaker 1: issues with drops live in real time during the pick 57 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 1: six return. Uh, and then he ate the snake? Is 58 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:32,680 Speaker 1: that what it was? That's what a score is. I 59 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 1: don't know, but I loved it, Mitch. With the call, 60 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:38,880 Speaker 1: the Kansas City Chiefs are four and oh for the 61 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:43,360 Speaker 1: fourth consecutive season. That doesn't even seem possible, but it's true. 62 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 1: After ten win over the Patriots at Arrowhead, a game 63 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 1: that was six to three at halftime, the Chiefs, you know, 64 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:54,240 Speaker 1: powerhouse that they are, didn't score their first touchdown too 65 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:57,760 Speaker 1: Layton the third quarter. The Patriots hung around, but suspect 66 00:03:57,800 --> 00:04:02,200 Speaker 1: quarter play quarterback play from Brian Hoyer helped undermine them 67 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 1: in this game. Greg, you uh, let's start with the Pats. 68 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:09,120 Speaker 1: Uh here you're Cam Newton misses this game obviously at 69 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:14,080 Speaker 1: the testing positive for coronavirus and Hoyer was for me 70 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:16,479 Speaker 1: a surprise start. I was actually I had my head 71 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:19,720 Speaker 1: down cranking out power rankings. I just assumed Jared Stidham 72 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:23,320 Speaker 1: was the backup because that was the cam, and apparently 73 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:24,760 Speaker 1: it turns out that Hoyer was the guy. But I 74 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:27,360 Speaker 1: don't think Hoyer is the backup anymore. No, I don't 75 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:31,320 Speaker 1: think so. And Bill Belichick on Tuesday would not reveal 76 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:34,640 Speaker 1: who would start on Sunday against the Broncos, which is 77 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:36,920 Speaker 1: usually a sign that they'll they'll go with the guy 78 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:39,719 Speaker 1: who came in, like Stidham, unless Cam is available, which 79 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:44,120 Speaker 1: is possible. Why play Brian Hoyer because there's two type 80 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 1: of backup quarterbacks that I think you kind of would want. 81 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:51,920 Speaker 1: One is like the ultra aggressive just I don't care 82 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 1: what's gonna happen, d J f Ryan Fitzpatrick type when 83 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:57,520 Speaker 1: he was the backup and like or even Dress Driscoll, 84 00:04:57,640 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 1: Like whatever is that, You're just gonna go for it. 85 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 1: The other that you would like is just like an 86 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 1: athletic guy that gives you some uh sort of advantage. 87 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:08,600 Speaker 1: Brian Hoyer is neither. He's in theory like a veteran 88 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:13,839 Speaker 1: good decision maker who very often in his career. Um 89 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:16,280 Speaker 1: looks like the moments too big for him to use 90 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:18,080 Speaker 1: one of your terms. And I hate sort of going 91 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:22,040 Speaker 1: so non you know, technical. But when you sail your 92 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 1: first two passes on Keith third downs in the first 93 00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:28,520 Speaker 1: two drives by like ten yards, like that looks like nerves. 94 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 1: Then you throw an interception, you take a terrible sack 95 00:05:32,080 --> 00:05:34,280 Speaker 1: at the end of the first half, uh, and then 96 00:05:34,320 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 1: you get bench through another big mistake in the third quarter. 97 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:41,239 Speaker 1: He he prevented them from potentially winning this game because um, 98 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:43,600 Speaker 1: mark you you said this was one of your favorite 99 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:46,280 Speaker 1: Patriots games, or maybe your favorite of all time. And 100 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:49,200 Speaker 1: I wasn't sure why you said that, but I I 101 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:51,320 Speaker 1: was happy you were on the same train as me, 102 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:55,320 Speaker 1: which is like, this was a vintage Bill Belichick defensive performance, which, 103 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:58,560 Speaker 1: if you like ugly football or defensive football, was kind 104 00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:03,040 Speaker 1: of fun for me to Apparently you too with Mark 105 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:07,560 Speaker 1: sometimes he just likes to move the needle acount. No, no, 106 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:10,440 Speaker 1: you know what, because that's a very cynical take on that, 107 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:13,640 Speaker 1: because I honestly this was the thing. I don't think 108 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:15,599 Speaker 1: this game should have even been played. I get you 109 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:17,119 Speaker 1: have to and you have to force it all along 110 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:19,640 Speaker 1: with Corona, but the idea that one team has to 111 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:21,839 Speaker 1: go out there against the Kansas City Chiefs of all 112 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:24,800 Speaker 1: teams in the league, with your starter out of the picture, 113 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:28,200 Speaker 1: you don't have a capable backup. The right half of 114 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 1: your line is missing. They have Kirk Farend's son playing center. 115 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:35,800 Speaker 1: Bill Belichick's like best friend from Iowa. I mean, the 116 00:06:36,040 --> 00:06:38,800 Speaker 1: stuff that was stacked against New England last night, and 117 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 1: the idea that he still found a way to be 118 00:06:41,880 --> 00:06:43,880 Speaker 1: guile Patrick Mahomes. I mean, the one thing that I 119 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 1: could not get out of my mind was the million 120 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:49,080 Speaker 1: shots to Patrick Mahomes on the sideline during that first half, 121 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:51,440 Speaker 1: for he's just sort of like hands over his heads 122 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:54,240 Speaker 1: waiting to get on the field because they were just 123 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:56,200 Speaker 1: making it tough on the Chiefs. And the thing with 124 00:06:56,279 --> 00:06:58,479 Speaker 1: Brian Hoyer at the end of that half when he 125 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:01,760 Speaker 1: took that sack and you just saw Belichick explode and 126 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:05,279 Speaker 1: Josh McDaniels was furious. It's like, we're not asking you 127 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:07,920 Speaker 1: to save the planet Earth. Okay, Brian horror. We know 128 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 1: you can't do that, but you can't have He's showing 129 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:14,680 Speaker 1: the complete lack of veteran presence. And to Greg's point, 130 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 1: you would think that Brian Hoyer, who spent like seven 131 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 1: years with the Patriots over his career, would pick up 132 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:22,640 Speaker 1: a few tips along the way on how to handle 133 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 1: the final minute of a game where you're still in 134 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 1: it against all odds. Unbelievable performance by Brian Hoyer and 135 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:30,400 Speaker 1: then still him. I love his live arm, but the 136 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 1: guy is throwing picks all over the place too. Great coaching. 137 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 1: The first pick was that was bad, but it unearthed 138 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 1: one of the potentially great coaching. It was a great 139 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:46,880 Speaker 1: coaching job. But he was completely unspoiled by his hideous quarterbacks. Hey, 140 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:49,200 Speaker 1: welcome was it? How the other half lives Patriots fans. 141 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:52,640 Speaker 1: Sometimes your quarterbacks just suck and it ruins everything. Was 142 00:07:52,960 --> 00:07:55,920 Speaker 1: it really an unbelievable performance from Brian Hoyer. This is 143 00:07:55,960 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 1: the Brian horyer that we've been watching right a little 144 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:01,480 Speaker 1: on them too. Yeah, that's if you you know, if 145 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:05,360 Speaker 1: you search your Twitter name and at Hoyer and just 146 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:08,960 Speaker 1: scroll through your reactions, anybody can do this. Uh, through 147 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:12,040 Speaker 1: the years, the game, we're reacting to, this game that 148 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 1: he had last night, over and over again for multiple franchises, 149 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 1: for the Browns, for the Texans, and now for the Patriots. 150 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 1: This is Brian. It's not the moment being too big 151 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:23,240 Speaker 1: for Brian Hoyer. He's got to be good in practice 152 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:29,720 Speaker 1: anything else. He's a really nice guy. Um, he knows 153 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:32,839 Speaker 1: the playbook, I guess um. But he's not a good 154 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:35,120 Speaker 1: football player. And that's fine, Like it's okay, you don't 155 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:37,040 Speaker 1: have to be good at football, I guess to be 156 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 1: a good person. But there's there's definitely better people at 157 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 1: playing quarterback than Brian Hoyer. It wasn't that wasn't Patrick's right. 158 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:46,839 Speaker 1: It wasn't that this moment was too big for Brian Hoyer. 159 00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:50,559 Speaker 1: Every moment is too big for Brian Hoyer not to 160 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:53,959 Speaker 1: pile on the guy, but yeah that did, and it 161 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:57,800 Speaker 1: did as someone who enjoys a little bit of rain 162 00:08:57,880 --> 00:09:00,640 Speaker 1: falling down on the throne of ease. It also was 163 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:03,800 Speaker 1: a reminder like, if things don't break a little differently 164 00:09:03,800 --> 00:09:06,200 Speaker 1: for the Patriots this offseason and there isn't a team 165 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:09,360 Speaker 1: that aggressively targets Cam Newton, this would have been their reality. 166 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:11,320 Speaker 1: This would have been there. They would have been just 167 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:14,640 Speaker 1: living and die in every week hoping to get um 168 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:20,200 Speaker 1: basic quarterback play. So good for them. Yeah, it's bad 169 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:22,040 Speaker 1: and they'd had to travel the day of the game, 170 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:24,640 Speaker 1: but you're right. Just imagine how vulnerable they wanted they 171 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:27,240 Speaker 1: would have been if another team jumped in and said, whoa, 172 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:29,400 Speaker 1: we're gonna go the Chicago Bears go ahead. Just when 173 00:09:29,480 --> 00:09:31,959 Speaker 1: they started Stidham. They brought stid him in the fourth quarter, 174 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:35,040 Speaker 1: I think precisely because they have another game next week 175 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:38,040 Speaker 1: in which um Cam Newton might not be available, and 176 00:09:38,040 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 1: so they wanted to see Stidham and why not take 177 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:43,839 Speaker 1: this opportunity to see Stidham, who you've been pumping up 178 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:47,080 Speaker 1: um and as a young player for the whole game. 179 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 1: Because the defense I took a lot out of this 180 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:53,280 Speaker 1: game because I was not encouraged by how this defense 181 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 1: had played in the first three weeks. It was really 182 00:09:55,400 --> 00:10:00,400 Speaker 1: built almost entirely in some way to stop Kansas City. Uh, 183 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:03,440 Speaker 1: and teams like Kansas City, so I guess like they 184 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:08,640 Speaker 1: they are uniquely um situated to slow mahomes down. But 185 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:12,280 Speaker 1: you know, the the Chiefs had what five punts in 186 00:10:12,320 --> 00:10:14,679 Speaker 1: their first six possessions. They only scored nineteen points and 187 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 1: nine possessions. They did an awesome job Chase. One of 188 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:20,840 Speaker 1: it is for real, like their secondary played their best 189 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:23,120 Speaker 1: game of the year. And and yes, if it wasn't 190 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:28,320 Speaker 1: for um you know, the offensive total brain farts by Hoyer. 191 00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 1: They had a good chance to win this game. But 192 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:32,640 Speaker 1: that defense having that type of day makes me think 193 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:35,480 Speaker 1: other than missing Donte high Tower, which to me has 194 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 1: just been one of the biggest missing pieces ever. He 195 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:41,000 Speaker 1: he I always knew how valuable he was, but they 196 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:44,160 Speaker 1: missed him so much every game. Bentley is a pretty 197 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:47,520 Speaker 1: big negative for them. Uh. It gives me a little 198 00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:50,080 Speaker 1: hope there Dan that the defense you know, come together 199 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:53,120 Speaker 1: and I'll take the moral victory that I'm taking it 200 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:55,160 Speaker 1: and taking it take. The Chiefs took the real one, 201 00:10:55,800 --> 00:10:58,800 Speaker 1: but that was not the true branded Monday night football 202 00:10:58,840 --> 00:11:01,640 Speaker 1: game that was played at lambeau Field. Let's check in 203 00:11:01,679 --> 00:11:06,600 Speaker 1: on that game. Third and three, back to Pastors, Rogers, backpeddling, backpeddling, coos, 204 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:09,240 Speaker 1: an arching passed down the middle, quite upen the tight end. 205 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:14,200 Speaker 1: It's a touchdown at the goal line. Tonyon his third 206 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:19,079 Speaker 1: of the night. Rogers has done another t d Rogers 207 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:22,959 Speaker 1: four touchdown passes tonight, and he looks down to his 208 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:28,400 Speaker 1: right hand and he's kind of one. Two four touchdowns 209 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:34,600 Speaker 1: by Rogers. Kevin Harland with the call on Westwood one. 210 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:41,520 Speaker 1: We can only play this song for this game because 211 00:11:42,120 --> 00:11:44,719 Speaker 1: ESPN owns the rights of this game and CBS on 212 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:49,640 Speaker 1: the rights of the other one. That's a true story. 213 00:11:49,640 --> 00:11:55,160 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers and then playing playing without Davante Adams, without 214 00:11:55,200 --> 00:11:57,640 Speaker 1: Alan Lazard. It doesn't matter right now, because that's where 215 00:11:57,640 --> 00:12:01,920 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers is right now, in his sixteenth season, seven 216 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:06,320 Speaker 1: thirty three for seven yards, four touchdowns, no picks, passer 217 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:10,319 Speaker 1: rating of forty seven and a half and yes you 218 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:15,480 Speaker 1: heard it, Robert Tanyan West's boy and three touches thirty 219 00:12:15,559 --> 00:12:19,160 Speaker 1: to sixteen. The Packers cruised over the Falcons. The Packers 220 00:12:19,160 --> 00:12:23,520 Speaker 1: are four and oh uh and and the bearded boy 221 00:12:23,559 --> 00:12:27,160 Speaker 1: Matt la Fleur has an insane winning percentage through a 222 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:30,199 Speaker 1: year and a quarter. And the Falcons Patrick Clayband oh 223 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:33,320 Speaker 1: and four uh. Dan Quinn could be the next to go. 224 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:37,320 Speaker 1: And it's kind of surprising right that that this is 225 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:38,880 Speaker 1: we got to this point in the season and we 226 00:12:38,920 --> 00:12:41,760 Speaker 1: saw a coach that wasn't dan Quinn go before dan 227 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:44,440 Speaker 1: Quinn seeing as he is, uh, he's kind of wearing 228 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:48,080 Speaker 1: this this giant weighted chain of being the defensive minded 229 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:51,280 Speaker 1: coach and having uh just a laughable defense that they 230 00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:55,200 Speaker 1: got to a point um last night where Aaron Rodgers 231 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 1: the company could really do whatever they wanted to do. 232 00:12:56,960 --> 00:12:59,319 Speaker 1: If it wasn't Bob Tanyan having three touchdowns, it could 233 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:03,360 Speaker 1: have been anybody else. Uh. Aaron Jones um legitimately could 234 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:06,679 Speaker 1: have probably had a fifty point fantasy game last night 235 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:09,600 Speaker 1: if they checked it down for him able to rest up. 236 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:12,360 Speaker 1: They didn't even start Davante Adams, who was upset last 237 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:16,000 Speaker 1: night um or yesterday morning with this idea that, oh, 238 00:13:16,040 --> 00:13:17,960 Speaker 1: they think they know my hamstring better than I do. 239 00:13:18,040 --> 00:13:23,079 Speaker 1: But like, dude, we don't put this this team. Uh. 240 00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:26,440 Speaker 1: This team in this defense particularly UH isn't very good 241 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:29,400 Speaker 1: and the clock, I guess, is ticking. As as nice 242 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 1: of the guy as dan Quinn is. Um, just you 243 00:13:31,760 --> 00:13:33,480 Speaker 1: would like to have some results on that side of 244 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:35,760 Speaker 1: the football, and they just don't have any cessler who's 245 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:39,439 Speaker 1: nicer dan Quinn or Brian Hoyer. You know, I randomly 246 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:42,880 Speaker 1: met him at the same Super Bowl and Brian Hoyer 247 00:13:42,960 --> 00:13:46,080 Speaker 1: was so nice, just kind of baby with his wife 248 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:47,719 Speaker 1: and we had a small child at the time, and 249 00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:50,560 Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god, he's so nice and 250 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:54,320 Speaker 1: so like. I struggle with that because also dan Quinn 251 00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 1: was qu I do think that dan Quinn is Like, 252 00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:00,280 Speaker 1: I don't think he's going to turn into an evil 253 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:05,480 Speaker 1: person because of this, but I think dan Quinn is 254 00:14:06,200 --> 00:14:10,960 Speaker 1: nicer because I didn't get enough time. I mean, he's 255 00:14:11,120 --> 00:14:14,480 Speaker 1: he's a close second, But I mean, forget dan Quinn. 256 00:14:14,520 --> 00:14:17,240 Speaker 1: I mean, this is the game and I'm late. I'm 257 00:14:17,320 --> 00:14:19,680 Speaker 1: late to this because I've been rough on the Packers forever, 258 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:22,880 Speaker 1: like and in even last year's Packers, I just didn't 259 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:26,160 Speaker 1: buy the whole operation. I totally do now. I realize 260 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:28,840 Speaker 1: I'll make the last person in the room. But Matt Lafleur, 261 00:14:28,920 --> 00:14:31,040 Speaker 1: to me, proved last night that he can be one 262 00:14:31,080 --> 00:14:34,520 Speaker 1: of those coaches that ups the creativity beyond what a 263 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:36,400 Speaker 1: normal coach can do. I mean the fact that they're 264 00:14:36,400 --> 00:14:39,480 Speaker 1: missing all the wide receivers that they were and PFF 265 00:14:39,520 --> 00:14:42,320 Speaker 1: came out calling it the most efficient offensive week four. 266 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:45,240 Speaker 1: The way that they're using different players left and right, 267 00:14:45,280 --> 00:14:47,600 Speaker 1: it kind of reminds me of this like hideous JV 268 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:49,640 Speaker 1: game where they're all these entries and I got put 269 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:52,560 Speaker 1: a safety and we played this team from like Trumbull 270 00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:55,000 Speaker 1: that had no quarterback. We found out what they're going 271 00:14:55,080 --> 00:14:57,760 Speaker 1: to kill these guys. They have no quarterback and there's 272 00:14:57,880 --> 00:15:02,200 Speaker 1: their direct snapping. He playing well. It was like I 273 00:15:02,240 --> 00:15:04,480 Speaker 1: still have numbers, but this they were direct snapping the 274 00:15:04,520 --> 00:15:07,080 Speaker 1: ball Like midway through the first quarter, they changed it 275 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:09,520 Speaker 1: up to it like a two and twenty pound person 276 00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:12,600 Speaker 1: and he's barreling through the defense and I'm playing like 277 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:14,840 Speaker 1: deep safety because like, get this guy off the field, 278 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:17,080 Speaker 1: and I like six plays in a row, I've got 279 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:19,080 Speaker 1: this guy coming at me, and I'm just like I 280 00:15:19,120 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 1: want to be in my house watching like little house 281 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:22,760 Speaker 1: in the prairie right now. What am I doing here? 282 00:15:22,840 --> 00:15:25,480 Speaker 1: So when you can beguile the defense the way that 283 00:15:25,520 --> 00:15:27,560 Speaker 1: Green Bay did. I mean, I just saw so many 284 00:15:27,560 --> 00:15:32,280 Speaker 1: communication breakdowns in Atlanta's totally battered secondary. On that Aaron 285 00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:34,600 Speaker 1: Rodgers touchdown on the first the first score, I mean 286 00:15:34,880 --> 00:15:37,320 Speaker 1: he there, there was no one within fifteen yards of him, 287 00:15:37,320 --> 00:15:40,920 Speaker 1: and it was like an embarrassing preseason looking performance by 288 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:44,640 Speaker 1: Atlanta's defense. But they often look like a poorly coached defense. 289 00:15:44,720 --> 00:15:47,160 Speaker 1: And I think one of the best test is when 290 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 1: you have a bunch of injuries, can you still hold 291 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:53,560 Speaker 1: it together and look well coached. Maybe you're not gonna 292 00:15:53,560 --> 00:15:56,640 Speaker 1: win or or look great, but are you gonna have 293 00:15:56,720 --> 00:15:58,840 Speaker 1: a total collapse? And that's what's happened to the Falcons 294 00:15:58,920 --> 00:16:02,200 Speaker 1: multiple times. To be fair, they've had an incredible amount 295 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:04,240 Speaker 1: of injuries. They're not just missing a couple of guys, 296 00:16:04,280 --> 00:16:07,800 Speaker 1: they have five start every basically every starting defensive back 297 00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:10,960 Speaker 1: was hurt and another other than Kendall Sheffield, and then 298 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:14,360 Speaker 1: one of the primary replacements got hurt too, and demonte 299 00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:16,560 Speaker 1: Kezy got hurt during the game, so they're missing an 300 00:16:16,680 --> 00:16:19,600 Speaker 1: entire secondary. But this has happened to Atlanta before. When 301 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:22,680 Speaker 1: they have injuries, suddenly it's like that's the excuse why 302 00:16:22,880 --> 00:16:25,440 Speaker 1: we're the very worst defense in the league. And it's 303 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:29,120 Speaker 1: like no, um, other teams would hold it together and 304 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:32,520 Speaker 1: get some sort of stops and and not have all 305 00:16:32,640 --> 00:16:37,240 Speaker 1: of those breakdowns, and um, the Packers have so many weapons. 306 00:16:37,280 --> 00:16:40,600 Speaker 1: I mean, Jamal Williams has been really good this year. 307 00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:44,480 Speaker 1: It's funny because everyone killed the Packers to first two picks, 308 00:16:44,720 --> 00:16:46,600 Speaker 1: and the second one of those was A J. Dillon, 309 00:16:47,120 --> 00:16:50,120 Speaker 1: the seven thousand pound running back. He can't get on 310 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:52,440 Speaker 1: the field either. He's like the Jordan's love of running backs. 311 00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:55,880 Speaker 1: Because Jamal Williams has motivated, just like Aaron Rodgers has 312 00:16:55,920 --> 00:16:58,840 Speaker 1: apparently motivated. And Williams has played great this year and 313 00:16:58,880 --> 00:17:01,120 Speaker 1: he's a great receiver. And you could see last night. 314 00:17:01,160 --> 00:17:04,879 Speaker 1: I think you're right about the Davante Adams thing that 315 00:17:04,920 --> 00:17:07,280 Speaker 1: they're like sidium. They're also going into a bye week. 316 00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:10,359 Speaker 1: It's like they don't even need to use Aaron Jones 317 00:17:10,520 --> 00:17:13,200 Speaker 1: every snap. They're playing Jamal Williams half the time because 318 00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:15,399 Speaker 1: they're like, let's let's just ease off the pedal with 319 00:17:15,400 --> 00:17:17,520 Speaker 1: Aaron Jones. We can beat the Falcons with any of 320 00:17:17,560 --> 00:17:20,280 Speaker 1: our guys. This go down is the greatest Packers draft 321 00:17:20,320 --> 00:17:22,320 Speaker 1: of the last twenty years with two you know, high 322 00:17:22,359 --> 00:17:24,480 Speaker 1: selections that aren't even on the field, just for the 323 00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:26,840 Speaker 1: fact that it's set a fire under so many buttocks. 324 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:31,440 Speaker 1: I mean, that's the only way to explain it, um 325 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:36,159 Speaker 1: like positively, because legitimately, um, this was a team that 326 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:39,439 Speaker 1: really looked overmatched against the fort in the playoffs and 327 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:41,480 Speaker 1: then they draft two players that they aren't even using 328 00:17:41,520 --> 00:17:45,240 Speaker 1: that they've they've gotten better, uh year two in a system. 329 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:47,840 Speaker 1: But like Packers fans were like, yeah, let's stick it 330 00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:54,520 Speaker 1: to the people, but you know you're not using the players. 331 00:17:50,760 --> 00:17:56,160 Speaker 1: But also I really did think at the time people 332 00:17:56,160 --> 00:17:59,160 Speaker 1: were overreacting, if only because the first two draft picks 333 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:01,439 Speaker 1: on your team are not gonna make or break your season, 334 00:18:01,560 --> 00:18:05,879 Speaker 1: Like we've watched enough football that of course, um, you 335 00:18:05,920 --> 00:18:08,199 Speaker 1: know you want them to come and contribute. But if anything, 336 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:10,840 Speaker 1: this is validation that you know, the Packers should be 337 00:18:10,840 --> 00:18:14,680 Speaker 1: thinking long term. I'd rather have a developmental quarterback than 338 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:17,639 Speaker 1: like Tee Higgins. I'm sorry, I just even and Ti 339 00:18:17,680 --> 00:18:22,520 Speaker 1: Higgans is good, Like I'd rather have a quarterback anyways. Yeah, 340 00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:25,240 Speaker 1: it's pretty amazing that we're talking about now the offense 341 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:30,800 Speaker 1: having all this firepower when The whole story all through 342 00:18:30,840 --> 00:18:33,320 Speaker 1: the off season was, well, they screwed Rogers here, they 343 00:18:33,359 --> 00:18:35,200 Speaker 1: didn't get him help. He still doesn't have enough help. 344 00:18:35,680 --> 00:18:38,840 Speaker 1: And maybe a part of this is Rogers too changing 345 00:18:38,880 --> 00:18:41,960 Speaker 1: always played. We've heard a lot about like how he's 346 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:45,760 Speaker 1: become more zen this season and how he's more introspective 347 00:18:45,800 --> 00:18:48,399 Speaker 1: than ever before, and he's become an addition to his 348 00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:52,440 Speaker 1: incredible intelligence, uh, like some type of shaman or something. 349 00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:54,760 Speaker 1: I don't know what's going on that storyline, but I 350 00:18:54,800 --> 00:18:57,760 Speaker 1: would like to get more of a football take on 351 00:18:57,880 --> 00:19:00,919 Speaker 1: what's taken him from this? And he even said it, 352 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:02,679 Speaker 1: like when he was asked, like, how do you explain 353 00:19:02,760 --> 00:19:06,040 Speaker 1: your career resurgence? And he fairly pointed out He's like, 354 00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:08,479 Speaker 1: my quote unquote bad years are like career years from 355 00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:11,879 Speaker 1: any other quarterbacks, which is fairly true. But also I 356 00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:14,240 Speaker 1: want to know what the light that went on? Is 357 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:17,320 Speaker 1: this all just the competitor? Is this that he's a shaman? Like? 358 00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:21,760 Speaker 1: Had this happen? Because he's unbelievable schedule schedule has helped 359 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:25,200 Speaker 1: the offensive line certainly, and yeah, year two, I think 360 00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:28,240 Speaker 1: I think there really is something to that. We've seen 361 00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:30,600 Speaker 1: a lot of systems take off in year two, like 362 00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:33,959 Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan when he was in Atlanta, and Matt Lafleur 363 00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:36,679 Speaker 1: was on that staff actually in year two. You know, 364 00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:38,879 Speaker 1: they just they seemed to they seem to know what 365 00:19:38,920 --> 00:19:40,679 Speaker 1: they're doing. And the years before that where he, you know, 366 00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:42,760 Speaker 1: he and Mike McCarthy were tired of each other. And 367 00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:44,680 Speaker 1: it's like, think of any environment that you're in where 368 00:19:44,680 --> 00:19:47,080 Speaker 1: you're just kind of getting your board, you need a 369 00:19:47,119 --> 00:19:49,080 Speaker 1: little bit of a spark, and the spark has come, 370 00:19:49,119 --> 00:19:51,600 Speaker 1: and the spark is Matt Lafleur. He's not a little 371 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:53,680 Speaker 1: boy with a beard anymore, and he's just you can't 372 00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:56,040 Speaker 1: call him that if he's four years older. I think 373 00:19:56,040 --> 00:19:58,680 Speaker 1: it was Roger Sherman from The Ringer who pointed that out. 374 00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:01,240 Speaker 1: I was like shocked by that he's four years older 375 00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:04,879 Speaker 1: than Aaron Rodgers. Well, everyone calls the quarterback old and 376 00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 1: the coach seems so young. And Keith has Us in 377 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:11,640 Speaker 1: my garage last December labeled Matt Lafleura the bearded boy. 378 00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:14,359 Speaker 1: It was more based on his youthful appearance and how 379 00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:17,240 Speaker 1: its incongruous that he had this full facial hair. I 380 00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:19,440 Speaker 1: don't think it was like saying that he was overmatched 381 00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:22,359 Speaker 1: in in the gig. I do want to make that 382 00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:24,280 Speaker 1: in there. I think I do want to make one 383 00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:26,359 Speaker 1: final point in this game. They're owing four, and I 384 00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:29,320 Speaker 1: and I have seen a little bit of the chatter 385 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:32,400 Speaker 1: beginning of like, well, is this the end of Matt 386 00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:36,440 Speaker 1: Ryan in Atlanta? Which is I think that's but Falcons 387 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:39,359 Speaker 1: fans are thinking about that. And it is interesting that 388 00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:42,880 Speaker 1: Thomas dimitrof in this entire run, which has been by 389 00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:47,080 Speaker 1: far the most successful run in Atlanta Falcons history, started 390 00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:52,119 Speaker 1: with demotrof Um and Matt Ryan together. And uh, I 391 00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:55,119 Speaker 1: don't think they're gonna have the same front office or 392 00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:57,840 Speaker 1: coach next year. I do think Matt Ryan like would 393 00:20:57,840 --> 00:21:00,480 Speaker 1: be worth keeping around, but he he needs to be 394 00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:03,320 Speaker 1: special to kind of make them competitive, and he's not 395 00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:05,240 Speaker 1: special right now. Or do what you wonder if Julio 396 00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:07,720 Speaker 1: Jones could be dangled in a trade, or they draft 397 00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:09,760 Speaker 1: a guy and keep Ryan for another year or two, 398 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:13,399 Speaker 1: you sense a radical reboot could be in the cards 399 00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:17,200 Speaker 1: potentially for Atlanta. All right, good talk there. One game 400 00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:20,160 Speaker 1: was the CBS Sunday property that was shifted. The other 401 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:23,439 Speaker 1: was Monday Night Football. But now we move forward to 402 00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:27,520 Speaker 1: talk about the Texans and to do that, let us 403 00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:33,119 Speaker 1: welcome in. He is the co host on the morning 404 00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:38,760 Speaker 1: show at sports Radio six ten in Houston. He played 405 00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:42,919 Speaker 1: a decade in the NFL with the Texans and the Jaguards, 406 00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:47,320 Speaker 1: a collegiate standout if Cornell ever heard of it, and 407 00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:49,720 Speaker 1: now he's making his return to the Around the NFL 408 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:52,720 Speaker 1: podcast to talk about what comes next for the Texans. 409 00:21:53,400 --> 00:22:00,880 Speaker 1: It's sad Bang, Hello, Hello, Pass it on by deshn 410 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:08,119 Speaker 1: Won for for our audio listeners. Set Knee Deep in Um, 411 00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:13,879 Speaker 1: a premature biography by It's a long, but it's a 412 00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:16,000 Speaker 1: long book for a young man. I'll tell you that much. 413 00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:18,920 Speaker 1: Is that like a chapter about how Bill O'Brien is 414 00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:21,240 Speaker 1: the right man to take me through my career? Well, 415 00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:25,880 Speaker 1: DeShawn has professed his love for for Bill O'Brien at times, 416 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:28,679 Speaker 1: and I look DeShawn, as I've always said, Deshaun is 417 00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:31,120 Speaker 1: a guy that is like truly committed to doing things 418 00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:34,240 Speaker 1: the right way. Um. As as I was just reading 419 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:37,040 Speaker 1: in the book, true Greatness takes time and patience. An 420 00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:40,680 Speaker 1: effective leader, I was learning never expresses impatience with goals 421 00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:44,200 Speaker 1: that require time. Uh. And this is what DeShawn is 422 00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:46,639 Speaker 1: he's patient, and I think he was really patient with 423 00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:48,919 Speaker 1: Bill O'Brien as much as he could and tried to 424 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:51,680 Speaker 1: do right by Bill O'Brien. I don't I don't know 425 00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:55,359 Speaker 1: how many tears he's crying for Bill O'Brien, like or 426 00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:57,879 Speaker 1: moving on from him, But I think the sentiment here 427 00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:01,640 Speaker 1: in Houston was that he's reached a limit with Bill O'Brian, 428 00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:04,439 Speaker 1: and when you need somebody else to start developing. Deshaun Watson, 429 00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:07,840 Speaker 1: you know, said I was tracking your Twitter ahead of 430 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:11,080 Speaker 1: today's appearance, and I found it interesting. I'm gonna read 431 00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:14,280 Speaker 1: actually a tweet from Seth because he's got a pretty 432 00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:17,400 Speaker 1: fire take about what's going on in that building here 433 00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:19,320 Speaker 1: here it is the only way I'll be okay with 434 00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:23,280 Speaker 1: Jack Easter be remaining in the organization is if he 435 00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:27,000 Speaker 1: hires somebody else to be the genuine general manager oversee 436 00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:29,560 Speaker 1: the culture and all that Ted talk drivel, but don't 437 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:33,480 Speaker 1: let him near a calculator or a docu sign app 438 00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:36,119 Speaker 1: So you're basically saying everybody's saying, oh, we figured out 439 00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:39,280 Speaker 1: that the problem here it was Bill O'Brien, the power 440 00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:41,320 Speaker 1: hungry monster that he was get him out of here. 441 00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:44,119 Speaker 1: But you're saying there still might be another beast lurking 442 00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:48,680 Speaker 1: beneath the surface. Yes, and that's Jack easterby the vice 443 00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:52,679 Speaker 1: president of Football Operations, whose previous stays in the NFL 444 00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:56,600 Speaker 1: included his time as the team pastor in Kansas, cy 445 00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:01,240 Speaker 1: and the character coach in Newing, And somehow he vaulted 446 00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:04,920 Speaker 1: himself up into the too now the supreme executive position 447 00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:09,760 Speaker 1: on the football side of operations in in Houston, beneath ownership. Um. 448 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:14,040 Speaker 1: And this whole last year, it's been presented to us that, hey, 449 00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:17,159 Speaker 1: Bill O'Brien and Jack Easter be here just walking and 450 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:20,400 Speaker 1: lock stuff. These guys. They've got a plan for the Texans. 451 00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:23,440 Speaker 1: And look, it'll be fine getting rid of DeAndre Hopkins, 452 00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:26,440 Speaker 1: no big deal. We've got Randall Cobb coming in. Hey, 453 00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:29,480 Speaker 1: don't worry about Jadeveon Clowney. It's easy to stop the 454 00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:32,159 Speaker 1: run and rush the pastor. But now, all of a sudden, 455 00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:34,399 Speaker 1: I guess we're to believe that, No, the whole problem 456 00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:36,800 Speaker 1: is just that Bill O'Brien doesn't know which played a 457 00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:39,639 Speaker 1: call on fourth and one. All these personnel moves have 458 00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:42,639 Speaker 1: yielded you just a magnificent roster. I'm getting kind of 459 00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:44,920 Speaker 1: nervous that the I'm getting got a nervous that ownership 460 00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:47,840 Speaker 1: doesn't understand just how much havoc has been wreaked on 461 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:51,080 Speaker 1: this roster. I would say I love your Easter be 462 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:53,679 Speaker 1: Heat because I read the Greg Bdard article that you 463 00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:56,560 Speaker 1: also sent out on your Twitter and it goes back 464 00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:59,440 Speaker 1: in time talking about the fact that there's this duality 465 00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:01,600 Speaker 1: to east or Be that Yes, he's this pastor and 466 00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:03,960 Speaker 1: he's helped all these families and people are like, he's 467 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:06,679 Speaker 1: a good guy and I like him, but he's also 468 00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:12,200 Speaker 1: really like a magnet for he's power hungry and Bill Well, no, 469 00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:15,119 Speaker 1: I'm talking about Easter Beecle came in like he First 470 00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:18,480 Speaker 1: of all, it's really irritated the Patriots when he left 471 00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:20,600 Speaker 1: New England, and it sounds like he might have been 472 00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:23,080 Speaker 1: a little bit behind some of this Nikissario business and 473 00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:25,120 Speaker 1: all this other stuff that happened. I mean, he's kind 474 00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:28,080 Speaker 1: of feels like a Senator Palpatine kind of lodged into 475 00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:29,879 Speaker 1: the middle of the Republic here. I don't like it 476 00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:31,720 Speaker 1: at all. Um, if I'm a Texas fan, you want 477 00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:34,200 Speaker 1: to you gotta get deeper and root him out. It's 478 00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:37,080 Speaker 1: how do you bring someone new in and say, this 479 00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:39,720 Speaker 1: guy is gonna be lurking alongside your your first year 480 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:43,000 Speaker 1: coaching career in Houston. It's like it's like getting into 481 00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:48,080 Speaker 1: a relationship with someone who is cheating on their significant other, 482 00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:52,640 Speaker 1: Like why would you trust that person to not continue 483 00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:56,280 Speaker 1: to cheat? Jack Jack Easterby, by the way, but are 484 00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:58,560 Speaker 1: completely predicted that he was going to take over the 485 00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:02,960 Speaker 1: organization two years ago. Jack Easterby was hired by Bill 486 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:08,200 Speaker 1: O'Brien because they were so close. Um, Jack Easterby pretty 487 00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:12,880 Speaker 1: obviously used his media contacts uh to burnish his reputation 488 00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:15,760 Speaker 1: to rise in the industry. Oh, by the way, who 489 00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:18,040 Speaker 1: did that? Like better than any coach I've ever seen. 490 00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:21,160 Speaker 1: Bill O'Brien, who like kept turning you know, was never 491 00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:24,879 Speaker 1: got out of the media cycle, had had a certain agent, 492 00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:26,959 Speaker 1: like never got out of the media cycle, turned like 493 00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:30,800 Speaker 1: okay jobs into all these opportunities, but was awesome at 494 00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:34,879 Speaker 1: office politics and using the media and sidling up to 495 00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:37,840 Speaker 1: ownership to figure out how to get more power. So 496 00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:41,879 Speaker 1: Easterby comes in By all accounts, rap Sheet says the 497 00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:47,359 Speaker 1: relationship turned sour in a in a minute where suddenly O'Brien, 498 00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:49,879 Speaker 1: how I read into it was shocked that like he 499 00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:52,639 Speaker 1: had been back stabbed by this guy um who was 500 00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:56,240 Speaker 1: probably cozying up with ownership. Basically, he did the Bill 501 00:26:56,240 --> 00:27:00,560 Speaker 1: O'Brien move. At least Bill O'Brien though, like I don't know, 502 00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:02,600 Speaker 1: is on a has been on a football staff and 503 00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:05,440 Speaker 1: like cosplays and had some track record of success. I'm 504 00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:07,800 Speaker 1: with you said this this for whatever reason, it's on 505 00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:12,520 Speaker 1: my radar. They deserve a total restart. Patrick, And can't 506 00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:15,440 Speaker 1: you like, isn't the last thing if you're a Texans fan, 507 00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:18,480 Speaker 1: wouldn't it be like another Patriots reboot? Because there's some 508 00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:22,120 Speaker 1: talk that like Easterby is gonna bring in you know, McDaniels, 509 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:25,000 Speaker 1: or they'll do some sort of like Patriots Light again, 510 00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:27,760 Speaker 1: which just seems like the worst thing to do. You 511 00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:29,880 Speaker 1: just you just want the next coach. And I saw 512 00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:33,720 Speaker 1: so many people floating, uh this idea that that well, 513 00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:36,440 Speaker 1: this is the spot, right, We've been waiting, uh for 514 00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:40,119 Speaker 1: so long to get an opportunity to get coach you know, 515 00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:42,520 Speaker 1: coming out of Kansas City to come in there, and 516 00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:45,320 Speaker 1: it's like, well, is this the spot? You know, is 517 00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:49,440 Speaker 1: he going to have uh, this opportunity to be successful? 518 00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:51,840 Speaker 1: In Houston, and I kind of wonder because Greggy were 519 00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:55,240 Speaker 1: talking about, um, you know, Bill O'Brien keeping his media 520 00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:58,520 Speaker 1: contacts like I've seen looking at Sess tom On in 521 00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:00,800 Speaker 1: the past twenty four hours, looking at er Wilson's time on. 522 00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:03,240 Speaker 1: I do want to bring up one of Eron's tweets 523 00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:06,200 Speaker 1: where he said, uh, when g M. Bill O'Brien fired 524 00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:07,639 Speaker 1: people over the years, he did so with a lot 525 00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:10,280 Speaker 1: of f bombs and orders to get the f out 526 00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:13,960 Speaker 1: of the building immediately. Personally, that wasn't how he was 527 00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:17,240 Speaker 1: dismissed today. And that was just like that little sprinkle 528 00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:19,480 Speaker 1: right so out there, that that little that little bit 529 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:24,119 Speaker 1: that was that was about these sprinkles suf that are 530 00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:26,720 Speaker 1: coming out of Houston. That was because I feel like 531 00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:30,720 Speaker 1: you guys are okay with the events here well and 532 00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:33,399 Speaker 1: honestly for the most part with the media. Like he 533 00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:36,400 Speaker 1: had his bristly moments. But yeah, there's always these things 534 00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:38,560 Speaker 1: you'd hear about the way he treated people are the 535 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:42,440 Speaker 1: way he interacted with people. I mean, the best video 536 00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:45,120 Speaker 1: evidence was at halftime in the Denver game when he 537 00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:48,160 Speaker 1: got into a shouting match with a fan where he said, 538 00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:51,720 Speaker 1: and I'll quote and I'll bleep myself, you suck to bleep, 539 00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:57,800 Speaker 1: bleep bleep. I liked them more after that. Hey, at 540 00:28:57,800 --> 00:28:59,440 Speaker 1: the moment we're in the middle of the playoff run, 541 00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:02,480 Speaker 1: we thought it was the ust thing. Ever, two weeks 542 00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:06,440 Speaker 1: later I speaking of a playoff and they were up 543 00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:09,000 Speaker 1: twenty four or nothing like three games ago in the 544 00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:11,760 Speaker 1: divisional playoffs. I mean, he did not win another game 545 00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:15,200 Speaker 1: after that. It's crazy, how like quickly at certain That's 546 00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:18,360 Speaker 1: why I blame ownership way more. And there was a vacuum, 547 00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:20,400 Speaker 1: uh And I know you can speak to this better, 548 00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:22,520 Speaker 1: but there was a vacuum of power. You know, their 549 00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:25,920 Speaker 1: their previous owner died and then his son Cal comes 550 00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:29,600 Speaker 1: in and Bill O'Brien kinda fills it. But I blame 551 00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:32,080 Speaker 1: all of this in fact on ownership. And if they 552 00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:35,920 Speaker 1: continue on with Easterby, that's on them too, because they're 553 00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:39,320 Speaker 1: they're the ones who okayed all of these trades and 554 00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:43,240 Speaker 1: bringing in Easterby. They promoted Bill O'Brien in January and 555 00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:46,040 Speaker 1: gave him a long new contract, so he he lasted 556 00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:50,480 Speaker 1: four games with that long GM contract. What I'm kind 557 00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:52,600 Speaker 1: of trying to get a censor a feel for is 558 00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:55,520 Speaker 1: exactly how this progressed in what kl McNair, the owner 559 00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:58,400 Speaker 1: was thinking along the way, whether this is just an 560 00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:00,600 Speaker 1: experiment and he was gonna see how it played out 561 00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:04,239 Speaker 1: because he likes Jack Easterby. As you said, Easterby comes in. Uh, 562 00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:07,800 Speaker 1: he has a way of ingratiating itself to people. Uh, 563 00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:12,040 Speaker 1: you might call him an opportunist. And it's just a 564 00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:15,200 Speaker 1: training camp. You know. My co host Sean Pendergast was 565 00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:17,400 Speaker 1: one of the few media members allowed in training camp 566 00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:19,560 Speaker 1: this offseason, and it was Hey, it was Jack and 567 00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:23,560 Speaker 1: Bill righting side by side. These guys are the dynamic duo. 568 00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:25,880 Speaker 1: All of a sudden, things go south in the first 569 00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:29,160 Speaker 1: few weeks of the season and there's a shake up 570 00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:32,320 Speaker 1: and Jack easter Be survived. There. Look, there's no shortage 571 00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:36,560 Speaker 1: of drama here. Ownership allowed Bill O'Brien and Jackie ster 572 00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:40,160 Speaker 1: Be to execute these trades, to sign these veteran players, 573 00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:43,880 Speaker 1: to renegotiate guys and given extensions that are far above 574 00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:48,800 Speaker 1: their probable market value. I'm still, though, kind of impressed 575 00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:51,400 Speaker 1: that cal McNair pulled the trigger on Bill O'Brien this 576 00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:54,160 Speaker 1: early in the season. I just I worry that Jack 577 00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:58,040 Speaker 1: Easterby has his tendrils into the organization and that he's 578 00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:01,000 Speaker 1: somehow he can't be the general manager of this team. 579 00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:08,280 Speaker 1: Do you think that's how it's gonna end up. That's 580 00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:12,080 Speaker 1: wants to get to that level where that that's what's 581 00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:14,760 Speaker 1: been reported, But our thoughts so and he basically was 582 00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:17,560 Speaker 1: at that level. That's that's why it makes zero sense 583 00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:22,040 Speaker 1: because Easterby made these trades with O'Brien. He he traded 584 00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:26,640 Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins, he Um made the trade for Tunsil. By 585 00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:29,280 Speaker 1: the way, the Dolphins are loving this Texas and seasons. 586 00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:32,200 Speaker 1: They have the first picks of the Texans in the 587 00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:34,840 Speaker 1: first and second round next year. I mean they might 588 00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:38,160 Speaker 1: get a chance to draft Trevor Lawrence or who knows, 589 00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:41,600 Speaker 1: or trade the pick that is Trevor Lawrence. Like Um, 590 00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:43,880 Speaker 1: they gave the extensions. This has been a little under 591 00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:47,040 Speaker 1: the radar. A crazy extension to me to Whitney Merciless, 592 00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:49,600 Speaker 1: who who's been a good player Um and and it 593 00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:52,000 Speaker 1: seems like a great guy. But it was a wild 594 00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:55,440 Speaker 1: um extension and the extension for Zach Cunningham was kind 595 00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:57,840 Speaker 1: of wild too. There's been a lot of things going on, 596 00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:00,680 Speaker 1: at least have Deshaun Watson, though it can't be. They've 597 00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:02,520 Speaker 1: had this look. And the reason I was reading the 598 00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:05,200 Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson book is like, that's you get the sense 599 00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:09,720 Speaker 1: that this organization right now is being run by basically 600 00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:15,320 Speaker 1: a whole bunch of motivational jim yam just nonsense that 601 00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:18,200 Speaker 1: they picked up, you know, in a hardcover pamphlet that 602 00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:20,200 Speaker 1: you buy at the airport because it looks like a 603 00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:23,360 Speaker 1: good way to maybe improve your performance at work about 604 00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:27,160 Speaker 1: just mantras all over the place. Do the next best 605 00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:30,680 Speaker 1: thing be DTS Dependable, tough, Smart. I'm gonna tell you 606 00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:33,840 Speaker 1: how discombobulated this is. They came up with this, these 607 00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:36,960 Speaker 1: three things that they want all their players to be dependable, tough, 608 00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:41,240 Speaker 1: and smart guys. We spent we spent with this brain 609 00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:43,960 Speaker 1: trust with the Texans nine months trying to figure out 610 00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:47,680 Speaker 1: which order you're supposed to pronounce DTS in. They started 611 00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:53,160 Speaker 1: off saying smart, tough, dependable. That your brain real quick. Yeah. 612 00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:57,320 Speaker 1: They moved on to tv S, which is kind of cool, touchdowns, right, 613 00:32:57,360 --> 00:32:59,880 Speaker 1: But then you got Bill O'Brien say zame d t S. 614 00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:03,560 Speaker 1: You got you got Jack Easter being saying ts D 615 00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:06,480 Speaker 1: and until finally they put it on a T shirt 616 00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:08,840 Speaker 1: during training camp. We couldn't come to a consensus on 617 00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:11,400 Speaker 1: how to say dts. It's that kind of an organization, 618 00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:14,120 Speaker 1: h I have the sense of, like basically remember those 619 00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:17,680 Speaker 1: old motivational work posters from the eighties where there's like 620 00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:20,240 Speaker 1: a little kitten hanging on it says just hanging in there, 621 00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:23,560 Speaker 1: and then you've got a picture of a Vince Lombardi 622 00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:25,560 Speaker 1: yelling at a player or something. It's a it's an 623 00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:30,520 Speaker 1: organization fueled by motivational nonsense. Well, you know you didn't. 624 00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:32,720 Speaker 1: It's good to see you Patrick, By the way, you 625 00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:36,920 Speaker 1: weren't here last time. I wish it was under different circusing. 626 00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:39,840 Speaker 1: You made another good point step too, that if you 627 00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:42,640 Speaker 1: want to take anything out of this now, it's it's well, 628 00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:44,920 Speaker 1: it's not house money because you're down a lot, but 629 00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:48,680 Speaker 1: there's no reason to tank because you don't have your 630 00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:51,560 Speaker 1: picks anyway. So maybe de John Watson maybe with Bill 631 00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:54,680 Speaker 1: O'Brien added there. Uh, you know, crazier things have happened 632 00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:56,920 Speaker 1: to San Diego Chargers started owing four and went to 633 00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:58,640 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. That's not gonna happen to the Texans. 634 00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:02,000 Speaker 1: But I wouldn't be totally stunned with the Deshaun Watson 635 00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:03,719 Speaker 1: team got hot one three in a row, and then 636 00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:05,640 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, it's like, oh, they're kind of 637 00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:07,920 Speaker 1: frisky in the mix for that seventh seed. I'm not 638 00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:12,399 Speaker 1: totally counting out this season as a lost, cause that's great. Um. 639 00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:16,399 Speaker 1: I think I dread about that somehow. Then we're gonna 640 00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:19,200 Speaker 1: start hearing like, Wow, you fired Bill O'Brien too soon. 641 00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:21,919 Speaker 1: Oh boy, you just you pulled the plug too early. 642 00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:25,120 Speaker 1: I think you keep Romeo. Romeo kept the last time. 643 00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:27,520 Speaker 1: I believe that was the last time he was made 644 00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:29,120 Speaker 1: inter him head coach. I feel like he's been into 645 00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:30,840 Speaker 1: him a few times, but that's how he kept the 646 00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:33,880 Speaker 1: job in Kansas City. He was made into him, did 647 00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:37,040 Speaker 1: pretty well, and then got one more year, which was 648 00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:41,520 Speaker 1: which And he's now the oldest coach in NFL history. 649 00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:43,959 Speaker 1: He's beat out George Hallis and Marv Leavy. I believe 650 00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:46,560 Speaker 1: I think he's seventy three years old. So well, we 651 00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:49,440 Speaker 1: we love Romeo Cornell. Here's he's been here like as 652 00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:52,720 Speaker 1: uh he's been. He's been the all time defensive coordinator. 653 00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:54,160 Speaker 1: I don't know what you guys called the all time 654 00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:56,919 Speaker 1: player back where you grow off like the all time QB, 655 00:34:57,120 --> 00:35:00,520 Speaker 1: that guy that'll always step in. There's a region difference. 656 00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:03,359 Speaker 1: We called him the all time QB. Yeah, like when 657 00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:07,680 Speaker 1: a defensive corner like Romeo Canell got demoted by promotions 658 00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:11,040 Speaker 1: of Rabel could be the defensive coordinator. Then Rabel left in, 659 00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:13,880 Speaker 1: Romeo stepped in and was the defensive coordinator, and then 660 00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:16,879 Speaker 1: Anthony Weavers now the defensive coordinator. But Romeo is such 661 00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:19,600 Speaker 1: a good dude that he stuck around and now he's 662 00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:21,800 Speaker 1: the head coach of a football teach again. Wait, I 663 00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:24,799 Speaker 1: just realized they took a picture at midfield before last 664 00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:28,520 Speaker 1: week's game of the three all time Texans coach because 665 00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:32,840 Speaker 1: Dom Caper's uh is on Gary Kubiak's staff in Minnesota, 666 00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:34,840 Speaker 1: which I didn't even realize, or he's on that staff 667 00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:37,480 Speaker 1: in Minnesota, and Bill O'Brien was there, and so they 668 00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:39,879 Speaker 1: had a nice photo op of the and who knew 669 00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:42,200 Speaker 1: they were only taking it because that was Bill O'Brien's 670 00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:47,919 Speaker 1: last game. You know, you know? You know who I knew? 671 00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:50,200 Speaker 1: I knew because in my draft folder I have a 672 00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:53,160 Speaker 1: tweet that says, hey, it's the three former coaches of 673 00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:56,560 Speaker 1: the Houston Texans that I decided against tweeting out that 674 00:35:56,760 --> 00:36:01,240 Speaker 1: name before I was keeping a positive attitude. Uh um, alright, 675 00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:03,920 Speaker 1: seth before you guys, just want to get this out 676 00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:05,840 Speaker 1: there because I couldn't live with myself. You seem like 677 00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:09,600 Speaker 1: a man of principal family man, an Ivy League scholar. 678 00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:13,320 Speaker 1: But the celebration of the Astros is some kind of 679 00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:17,719 Speaker 1: underdog story. It's uncouth and it's beneath you. Come on now, 680 00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:19,680 Speaker 1: so I'm not supposed to do I'm not supposed to 681 00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:23,080 Speaker 1: stop loving my team because three years ago, I feel 682 00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:25,560 Speaker 1: like anybody who does. If you don't understand, I'm not 683 00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:27,160 Speaker 1: speaking to any of you here because I know you 684 00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:29,640 Speaker 1: wouldn't be like this, But if you can't understand why 685 00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:32,920 Speaker 1: somebody would still love something after that thing has made 686 00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:35,520 Speaker 1: a mistake, I feel like I feel like it's an 687 00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:38,360 Speaker 1: indictment of your own parenting skills, because who has children 688 00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:40,640 Speaker 1: who haven't made mistakes and yes, you still love them. 689 00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:43,600 Speaker 1: And I'll say this to you too. I've given up 690 00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:46,480 Speaker 1: trying to, you know, argue or relitigate the cheating scandal 691 00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:48,640 Speaker 1: or however other many teams may have been doing what 692 00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:51,840 Speaker 1: the Astas we're doing. Um jose l two Bay, this 693 00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:53,320 Speaker 1: is the one thing I would say to you and 694 00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:55,799 Speaker 1: your esteemed audience, who I love because they're the best, 695 00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:58,239 Speaker 1: the best listenership outside of the listeners of Pain and 696 00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:02,520 Speaker 1: Pendergast in the land. Josel has been made the face 697 00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:05,640 Speaker 1: of this scandal, and he is one of the three 698 00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:08,880 Speaker 1: players who participated inness the least and didn't want a 699 00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:11,640 Speaker 1: part of it. The players will tell you that. Um 700 00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:15,719 Speaker 1: the independent investigator that started a website where he tried 701 00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:18,319 Speaker 1: to count the number of thumps that he heard, said 702 00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:21,600 Speaker 1: that l Tube had at least suspicion of any of 703 00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:23,960 Speaker 1: the stop but we saw the wire under the jersey 704 00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:31,000 Speaker 1: after that over here everyone And then in terms of look, 705 00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:33,360 Speaker 1: Chaman didn't have it that night, You're six balls in 706 00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:35,960 Speaker 1: a row. He couldn't find his fastball, and jose had 707 00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:38,600 Speaker 1: a new new testive beneath you said, but they've been 708 00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:42,200 Speaker 1: trying to tear his jersey off after walk off since 709 00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:44,960 Speaker 1: two thousand fifteen. This No, you do sound like a 710 00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:47,600 Speaker 1: parent of a child that will always defend the child, 711 00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:50,759 Speaker 1: no matter how hideous they are. I'm I'm defending jose 712 00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:53,399 Speaker 1: L Tub and that's it. I've observed it to jose 713 00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:55,400 Speaker 1: L two days have me on the show down there 714 00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:57,520 Speaker 1: in Houston when the Yankees are playing in the LC. Yes, 715 00:37:57,640 --> 00:38:01,040 Speaker 1: let's talk about it, right. History will prove me right, alright, Seth. 716 00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:05,680 Speaker 1: Besides that, it was awesome. You're such a great voice 717 00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:10,480 Speaker 1: and all things Houston sports related. Uh, so we appreciate it, 718 00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:13,680 Speaker 1: and uh, please join us again and in my best 719 00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:15,880 Speaker 1: to Chris. And I gotta tell you guys honestly to 720 00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:17,840 Speaker 1: to be very serious for a moment. The way you 721 00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:21,759 Speaker 1: guys have handled, um, just everything with Chris and and 722 00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:24,239 Speaker 1: uh as he spot his way through this, it's been. 723 00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:26,399 Speaker 1: It's been really cool. Like I've cheered up at times 724 00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:28,400 Speaker 1: just when you guys are being really funny about it 725 00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:31,480 Speaker 1: and talking about your little Sea Dan or anything like that. Um, 726 00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:34,399 Speaker 1: it's been. It's been. Really it's been a really good 727 00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:37,239 Speaker 1: example for the way guys can support each other through 728 00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:39,120 Speaker 1: stuff like this. And I wish the best to Chris. 729 00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:44,360 Speaker 1: Thank you, Seth. I appreciate that. Man. Alright, there he goes, great, Seth. 730 00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:52,080 Speaker 1: Pain good appearance by Seth. Nailed it, nailed it all right. Hey, 731 00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:55,960 Speaker 1: let's check in before we get to Thursday night football 732 00:38:56,600 --> 00:39:00,040 Speaker 1: on some COVID nineteen stuff. You know, I want of 733 00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:01,839 Speaker 1: the audience, not that I really want to put together 734 00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:04,040 Speaker 1: some type of COVID nineteen dropped to get us into 735 00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:07,160 Speaker 1: these conversations. But then I feel like I'll have some 736 00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:11,759 Speaker 1: keyboard warriors saying not being insensitive. So I'm not so 737 00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:14,080 Speaker 1: that that's a that's a sign of maturity from the 738 00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:16,920 Speaker 1: old zeuser. Uh. So we just get straight into the 739 00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:20,200 Speaker 1: COVID nineteen talk here. We'll start with those keeping score 740 00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:22,520 Speaker 1: on Dan's maturity. That's a that's a that's a little 741 00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:24,319 Speaker 1: item for you to add to the notebook right there. 742 00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:27,880 Speaker 1: But Tennessee Titans had no positive COVID nineteen test On Tuesday, 743 00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:31,360 Speaker 1: Mike Brabel announced uh and the team could return to 744 00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:34,840 Speaker 1: the practice facility on Wednesday. Even though the Titans have 745 00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:37,120 Speaker 1: not yet been cleared to go back into the building, 746 00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:41,000 Speaker 1: the head coach hopes that they'll get approval by Wednesday morning. 747 00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:43,840 Speaker 1: In case you haven't tracked this closely, a total of 748 00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:49,080 Speaker 1: twenty Titans players and other staff members have tested positive 749 00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:53,280 Speaker 1: for the coronavirus in the past uh nine days. I believe. 750 00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:56,480 Speaker 1: The NFL announced last week that the Titans Steelers game 751 00:39:56,600 --> 00:40:00,440 Speaker 1: was going to be pushed to October. Tennessee is scheduled 752 00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:03,560 Speaker 1: to play the Bills in Week five and defeated teams 753 00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:06,680 Speaker 1: to undefeated teams. And that's not going to be a 754 00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:10,479 Speaker 1: slam dunk either. We'll see how this progresses, but even 755 00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:13,239 Speaker 1: if everything goes well from here, they're gonna be missing 756 00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:17,239 Speaker 1: a bunch of players mark against the Bills in a 757 00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:21,799 Speaker 1: big game with a big conference. Uh ramifications, I mean, 758 00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:24,439 Speaker 1: you know it's it's it still remains the story where 759 00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:29,360 Speaker 1: every time you open Twitter that you're wondering what the 760 00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:31,560 Speaker 1: newest will be, what what update there will be? And 761 00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:33,920 Speaker 1: I for me again, I point to the game last night, 762 00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:37,560 Speaker 1: the Patriots Chiefs game that I just don't view. I 763 00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:40,200 Speaker 1: don't will never really view this as a season equal 764 00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:42,279 Speaker 1: to any other. If if that stuff is gonna happen, 765 00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:46,160 Speaker 1: I mean, that completely altered that game. I totally understand 766 00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:48,279 Speaker 1: you on on one side of that, but like, what 767 00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:50,920 Speaker 1: is the alternative there? I'm not saying there's an alternative, 768 00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:53,680 Speaker 1: It's just that they could have posted that would have 769 00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:57,319 Speaker 1: been that they couldn't. They were taking a risk, Yeah, 770 00:40:57,360 --> 00:41:02,719 Speaker 1: they were taking a risk. Right, your your alternatives all 771 00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:06,320 Speaker 1: happened before the season, right. The alternative to add a 772 00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:10,200 Speaker 1: couple of buys, Uh to put a little more elasticity 773 00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:13,719 Speaker 1: in the schedule. Uh those play Yeah, you could have 774 00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:16,319 Speaker 1: done that before the season. At this point. Uh, it's 775 00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:17,880 Speaker 1: kind of what it is, where you're just banking on 776 00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:21,759 Speaker 1: buys and hoping. Like the postponements and the delays that 777 00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:25,880 Speaker 1: would normally mirror like a hurricane season, except this is 778 00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:29,359 Speaker 1: a hurricane season where hurricanes can literally uh spawn up 779 00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:31,920 Speaker 1: at any point in any state in the Union, and 780 00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:34,759 Speaker 1: you just got to kind of hope. And that's where 781 00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:39,879 Speaker 1: we are. Yeah, And in other COVID nineteen News found 782 00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:43,960 Speaker 1: this to be very interesting that the NFL has, you know, 783 00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:48,719 Speaker 1: trying to control this and and control an uncontrollable situation 784 00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:53,719 Speaker 1: and they call it. There's a memo that that got 785 00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:58,000 Speaker 1: released to the media. UM an ex extra red complacency 786 00:41:58,160 --> 00:42:01,680 Speaker 1: is our shared opponent that's coming from uh the NFL, 787 00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:03,880 Speaker 1: And this idea that hey, if you're not going to 788 00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:08,360 Speaker 1: listen to us when we find you or threatened draft picks, 789 00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:11,160 Speaker 1: well how about this if you if you're acting a 790 00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:14,040 Speaker 1: knucklehead as a team like the Raiders doing that charity 791 00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:17,960 Speaker 1: event and going maskless and all that, or again the 792 00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:22,680 Speaker 1: Raiders having someone unauthorized unauthorized in their locker room after 793 00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:26,359 Speaker 1: a game. If you're gonna do that kind of stuff, uh, 794 00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:29,399 Speaker 1: you could fork at a game, and that is something 795 00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:31,439 Speaker 1: that's in play. I think too if if it does, 796 00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:34,880 Speaker 1: imagine how how that would be. It's on you wouldn't 797 00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:37,040 Speaker 1: a year ago would be unthinkable. That's something like that 798 00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:40,120 Speaker 1: could happen. But if there's another big outbreak and there 799 00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:44,399 Speaker 1: becomes a clear line of how this started, you wonder 800 00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:46,400 Speaker 1: if the NFL would ever actually act on that and 801 00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:48,719 Speaker 1: award a two to nothing win to a team, which 802 00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:52,399 Speaker 1: is how it works technically. Well, I heard you said 803 00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:55,560 Speaker 1: it well in the in our one of our text threads, 804 00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:58,359 Speaker 1: Dan like trying to set up guard rails or these 805 00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:04,160 Speaker 1: rules for something almost that it's impossible too, for like, 806 00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:08,440 Speaker 1: they want to set up the rules, but I struggle 807 00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:10,840 Speaker 1: with them sometimes. Of course they have to do this, 808 00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:12,960 Speaker 1: and it's positive that they're doing this in terms of 809 00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:16,840 Speaker 1: the finding and the masks and and everything. But the 810 00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:20,080 Speaker 1: NFL is the one that decided to play that Titans 811 00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:24,239 Speaker 1: Vikings game with two people who at least more than two, 812 00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:26,960 Speaker 1: but including Jeffrey Simmons, by the way, who was a 813 00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:29,520 Speaker 1: big star for for Tennessee now is playing really well? 814 00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:34,680 Speaker 1: Who who ended up testing positive and they had an 815 00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:39,000 Speaker 1: outbreak and and so I think playing that game, you 816 00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:42,200 Speaker 1: could argue being in a plane together, you know, contributed 817 00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:45,160 Speaker 1: to that. So who's getting fine for that? You know? 818 00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:50,120 Speaker 1: Um who? It's it's tough because of course you have 819 00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:52,439 Speaker 1: to have rules. And I've heard the doctor Stills, who's 820 00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:56,200 Speaker 1: in charge of it, speak really well on this. But 821 00:43:56,400 --> 00:43:59,319 Speaker 1: I find it confusing too when you're you're finding these 822 00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:02,399 Speaker 1: players for masks and the coaches for mas during the game. 823 00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:06,560 Speaker 1: But it's all good to be, you know, growing up 824 00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:09,880 Speaker 1: and hugging and like arms around each other without mass 825 00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:14,120 Speaker 1: after the game, Like, so what's like, what's the difference. 826 00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:18,320 Speaker 1: It's just there's no like maybe there's no right answered, like, 827 00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:21,239 Speaker 1: but it's just it's a little it's a little confusing. 828 00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:25,160 Speaker 1: Like I appreciated Belichick not shaking Andy Reid's hand last night. 829 00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:27,440 Speaker 1: That's you know, he was like, no, I'm gonna give 830 00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:32,520 Speaker 1: you my elbow right now. I mean it gave him, 831 00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:34,600 Speaker 1: it gave him, he gave him the other I'm just 832 00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:38,520 Speaker 1: saying it's a little confusing because like the you're getting 833 00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:41,160 Speaker 1: fined for the masks at this event, but you're but 834 00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:43,960 Speaker 1: it's all good to be Like, there was literally a 835 00:44:44,120 --> 00:44:49,200 Speaker 1: conga line of young Chargers players and not one of 836 00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:51,239 Speaker 1: them was the Charges players. I recognized they were all 837 00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:55,520 Speaker 1: like young practice squad guys waiting to give Tom Brady 838 00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:58,640 Speaker 1: a massive after that game. There was like fifteen of them, 839 00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:02,200 Speaker 1: and so like, I don't know what, how is that 840 00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:05,080 Speaker 1: different than the charity event. And they decided to play 841 00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:07,200 Speaker 1: this Patriots game knowing that there at least with some 842 00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:10,520 Speaker 1: risk that they're increasing the spread of it, like and 843 00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:12,759 Speaker 1: hopefully they avoid that, and it looks like they are. 844 00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:16,000 Speaker 1: But I don't know, there's there's no right answers. I'm 845 00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:18,840 Speaker 1: just I'm rammed. I would like to apologize though, for 846 00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:21,440 Speaker 1: cutting Mark off in the previous talk. I got to 847 00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:24,359 Speaker 1: improve myself as a person. No more cutting up Mark. 848 00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:26,319 Speaker 1: Do you have something to say, No, I think it's 849 00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:28,440 Speaker 1: all been said said. Well, yeah, no, I was. I 850 00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:33,000 Speaker 1: think it is kind of a greater issue I mentioned yesterday. 851 00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:35,640 Speaker 1: Like it's similar to if you do go out to 852 00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:38,560 Speaker 1: eat in a restaurant, how you must wear the mask 853 00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:40,840 Speaker 1: when you're walking into the restaurant or you're going to 854 00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:43,000 Speaker 1: the restroom. You sit down at your table and you're 855 00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:44,680 Speaker 1: allowed to take the mask off and you play by 856 00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:46,680 Speaker 1: the rules because everybody wants to kind of get through 857 00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:48,879 Speaker 1: this together. But then if you like take a step back, 858 00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:51,920 Speaker 1: is like, are we actually being any safer? Are we? 859 00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:54,640 Speaker 1: Or is this really working? But you just do it 860 00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:56,520 Speaker 1: because we don't know what else to do as as 861 00:45:56,680 --> 00:46:00,800 Speaker 1: a society. Uh, it's it's a man that's on certain times, 862 00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:06,120 Speaker 1: it really is, all right, put a button on. I 863 00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:09,320 Speaker 1: want to hear your opinion on this on uh safety 864 00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:12,480 Speaker 1: because like you said, we don't know, right, we don't know. 865 00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:15,960 Speaker 1: And some of it maybe my safety theater um, wearing 866 00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:19,000 Speaker 1: the masks, being in certain places with masks, being in 867 00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:22,160 Speaker 1: certain places without masks, but ultimately, uh, we don't know. 868 00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:24,840 Speaker 1: And if you if you have your mask on and 869 00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:27,279 Speaker 1: you're around people that you don't know when, then you 870 00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:30,239 Speaker 1: should right that you're doing the right thing because you 871 00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:32,439 Speaker 1: know what you can control when you're around your team. 872 00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:35,399 Speaker 1: I guess if you're in Tom Brady's circumstance and you're 873 00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:39,359 Speaker 1: around guys who have cleared the protocol um and made 874 00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:41,239 Speaker 1: it to the point where they're on the field, then 875 00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:43,840 Speaker 1: perhaps you can dap them up a little more safely 876 00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:46,400 Speaker 1: than going going out to Harris Teeter and you know, 877 00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:49,200 Speaker 1: kissing old ladies on the cheek. Uh, that would probably 878 00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:51,560 Speaker 1: be a bad thing. Or if you're in a club 879 00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:54,640 Speaker 1: situation like the Raiders and you're just you're out there, 880 00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:56,759 Speaker 1: or like when I'm watching college football games and I 881 00:46:56,840 --> 00:46:59,800 Speaker 1: see guys score touchdowns in there they're half five and 882 00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:03,520 Speaker 1: kids in the stands like yeah yeah, But it's like, no, no, 883 00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:07,080 Speaker 1: don't do that. You just have to you have to 884 00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:11,520 Speaker 1: kind of be aware of the circumstances that you're currently in, uh, 885 00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:14,600 Speaker 1: and go with the best practices there because you know, 886 00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:16,560 Speaker 1: we we don't know. And you've got a league that's like, hey, 887 00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:19,239 Speaker 1: follow the circumstances, you know, do your part. And then 888 00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:21,880 Speaker 1: you've got a president that's like, it doesn't matter, I 889 00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:24,279 Speaker 1: made it all. You losers are gonna make it too. 890 00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:27,640 Speaker 1: So it's just like you just do what you think 891 00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:30,680 Speaker 1: is best in that particular moment. The league has its plan, 892 00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:32,719 Speaker 1: and so you know, I think it makes sense to 893 00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:35,560 Speaker 1: follow the plan. The Raiders are are doing the most 894 00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:39,640 Speaker 1: Raiders E thing this season in response to COVID nineteen. Also, 895 00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:42,279 Speaker 1: and sometimes you know, we celebrate the Raiders for being 896 00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:46,160 Speaker 1: kind of their own organization. But like, I don't know 897 00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:48,759 Speaker 1: between Grooten not wearing the mask, getting the fine and 898 00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:50,920 Speaker 1: then still not wearing the mask and the guy in 899 00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:55,680 Speaker 1: the locker room and about it. So Grewden apparently had 900 00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:58,360 Speaker 1: a pretty rough case of COVID that you know, you 901 00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:00,600 Speaker 1: didn't tell anyone at the theory they until the media 902 00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:03,239 Speaker 1: at the time, but you know, partly inspired by that, 903 00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:06,080 Speaker 1: they made T shirts. They made it part of their 904 00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:08,640 Speaker 1: whole camp that they were going to dominate the disease. 905 00:48:08,719 --> 00:48:10,200 Speaker 1: I think that was the T shirt. It was like, 906 00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:14,160 Speaker 1: dominate the virus. And they all have dominate the virus. Sure, 907 00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:17,080 Speaker 1: So I don't know, there's another another game plan failure 908 00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:21,320 Speaker 1: for the Raiders. All right, let's move on to Thursday 909 00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:24,439 Speaker 1: night Football. By the way, there's that on football because 910 00:48:24,520 --> 00:48:27,600 Speaker 1: Colleen and the gang to do such great work on 911 00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:30,680 Speaker 1: the pre post and halftime show. But did they ever 912 00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:34,160 Speaker 1: replace Prianka? Is there like a Thursday Night Football song 913 00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:37,400 Speaker 1: they did like seven years ago, Dan, they got rid 914 00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:40,600 Speaker 1: of Pianca lasted one year. Yeah, but how do you mean, 915 00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:45,440 Speaker 1: what's the new song? Was? There was some sort of 916 00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:49,719 Speaker 1: like um insane like robotic graphical song. For a while 917 00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:53,200 Speaker 1: they did for a while. Um they did Marcus right, 918 00:48:53,239 --> 00:48:56,560 Speaker 1: they were placed. It was something forgettable, and I could 919 00:48:56,600 --> 00:48:58,920 Speaker 1: be wrong, but I think they might maybe after that 920 00:48:59,040 --> 00:49:00,960 Speaker 1: one didn't work either, they just went to no song, 921 00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:05,279 Speaker 1: which is well, that's what I'm saying, is his for you? 922 00:49:09,080 --> 00:49:11,919 Speaker 1: That would work. I think they added us a little 923 00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:15,800 Speaker 1: bonus like Joe and Troy instead of the song, because 924 00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:18,759 Speaker 1: like a while there, during the during the runoff, right, 925 00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:21,800 Speaker 1: it's like you have all this pomp and circumstance and 926 00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:25,360 Speaker 1: there's a song. It's like and it's like, here's Brian 927 00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:30,080 Speaker 1: Hoyer running out on Thursday Night football. You can tell 928 00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:32,759 Speaker 1: this game as a Fox game because now it's suddenly, okay, 929 00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:34,719 Speaker 1: we got the Bears, big market there, three and one, 930 00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:37,160 Speaker 1: we got Tom Brady. It's like once it's back on Fox, 931 00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:40,440 Speaker 1: they start they start giving the better opponents and for you. 932 00:49:40,600 --> 00:49:44,640 Speaker 1: So here we are Bucks Bears at Soldier Field. Obviously, 933 00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:48,880 Speaker 1: Week four did not go to plan for the Bears, 934 00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:51,080 Speaker 1: who were three and oh they had Nick Foles locked 935 00:49:51,120 --> 00:49:54,160 Speaker 1: and loaded as the starter, and then they lay a 936 00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:57,719 Speaker 1: total egg on offense and that was a you got 937 00:49:57,800 --> 00:50:00,839 Speaker 1: a chance to watch that game, a very rough law us. Uh. 938 00:50:01,560 --> 00:50:04,960 Speaker 1: Look for the offense. Nineteen to eleven was the final 939 00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:06,960 Speaker 1: in that game, a late touchdown to make it look 940 00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:11,040 Speaker 1: somewhat respectable. Full still the quarterback and uh Clay Bonne 941 00:50:11,040 --> 00:50:14,239 Speaker 1: will start with the Bucks though, because I um my 942 00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:19,320 Speaker 1: takeaway from Sunday's when uh by the Bucks over the 943 00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:23,360 Speaker 1: Chargers was like, if we needed definitive proof that this 944 00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:26,239 Speaker 1: is not Joe Namath on the Rams, this is not 945 00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:29,800 Speaker 1: Johnny Anditis on the Chargers, we got it in Tampa 946 00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:33,000 Speaker 1: on on Sunday because if you if you surround forty 947 00:50:33,080 --> 00:50:35,759 Speaker 1: three year old Tom Brady with a strong offensive line 948 00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:38,800 Speaker 1: and weapons, he will light you up like a star quarterback. 949 00:50:38,840 --> 00:50:40,560 Speaker 1: He can still be that guy. And to me, that 950 00:50:40,680 --> 00:50:43,879 Speaker 1: raised the ceiling for this whole team. Yeah, the circumstances 951 00:50:43,960 --> 00:50:46,560 Speaker 1: were good. The circumstances are getting worse. That was a 952 00:50:46,640 --> 00:50:50,360 Speaker 1: Chargers team that that's honestly kind of beat up on defense. 953 00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:53,279 Speaker 1: And then O. J. Howard has the Achilles injury um 954 00:50:53,560 --> 00:50:56,560 Speaker 1: where we know we're not getting we're definitely not getting 955 00:50:56,640 --> 00:51:00,280 Speaker 1: pink gronk are were we even getting seventy five percent 956 00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:06,200 Speaker 1: gronk um? And so those circumstances I do believe are changing. 957 00:51:06,239 --> 00:51:08,719 Speaker 1: He's not gonna have Like in the preseason, there was 958 00:51:08,760 --> 00:51:11,040 Speaker 1: there was all this talk in j D was was predicting, 959 00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:14,279 Speaker 1: you know, fifty five sixty touchdowns for Tom Brady. Uh, 960 00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:18,640 Speaker 1: we know that that's kind of like all that stuff is. Yeah, 961 00:51:19,160 --> 00:51:23,719 Speaker 1: he's down, tom um, but we we saw how it 962 00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:26,040 Speaker 1: can look. You know, Mike Evans was lipping down the 963 00:51:26,120 --> 00:51:29,880 Speaker 1: field and still catching touchdowns. But but they lose another 964 00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:32,319 Speaker 1: weapon and you just kind of wonder at what point 965 00:51:32,360 --> 00:51:33,800 Speaker 1: is it gonna break. I think we're gonna learn a 966 00:51:33,840 --> 00:51:36,560 Speaker 1: lot on Thursday, uh, with the way that the Bears 967 00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:40,160 Speaker 1: can play defense, um as to how sustainable this is. 968 00:51:40,320 --> 00:51:43,279 Speaker 1: But but yeah, he's not He's not dust like some 969 00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:44,759 Speaker 1: other guys are. I mean, I think you have to 970 00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:47,000 Speaker 1: wonder who he's who the Bears are gonna be playing 971 00:51:47,080 --> 00:51:51,120 Speaker 1: defense against, because Chris Godwin, you know, Leonard Fournette sounds 972 00:51:51,160 --> 00:51:53,640 Speaker 1: like he's not gonna play. Mike Evans is banged up, 973 00:51:53,680 --> 00:51:57,080 Speaker 1: Scottie Miller's banged up, Justin Watson, that's the fourth top 974 00:51:57,160 --> 00:51:59,839 Speaker 1: wide receivers are not healthy. I mean, it's not even 975 00:51:59,880 --> 00:52:03,439 Speaker 1: the list goes on Miller, Miller and really finished the game, 976 00:52:03,480 --> 00:52:06,200 Speaker 1: I think, and Evans, so they didn't gonna play. They 977 00:52:06,239 --> 00:52:08,480 Speaker 1: didn't not practicing, So it's like, I mean, it's just 978 00:52:08,600 --> 00:52:11,680 Speaker 1: that it's a short week. So do you get he's 979 00:52:11,719 --> 00:52:14,360 Speaker 1: not coming back? You know? But they But to the 980 00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:17,120 Speaker 1: point on Brady, I mean, you know PFF tracks these 981 00:52:17,200 --> 00:52:19,200 Speaker 1: like big money throws, and he's had three of them 982 00:52:19,600 --> 00:52:23,320 Speaker 1: in every game this season, and he had five of 983 00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:26,040 Speaker 1: them in the last one. And it's like the dudes like, like, 984 00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:28,640 Speaker 1: I get that the Tom Brady like arm strength might 985 00:52:28,719 --> 00:52:30,480 Speaker 1: not be what it was and all this other stuff, 986 00:52:30,520 --> 00:52:35,839 Speaker 1: but he's working in this offense. Yeah he is. He's Um, 987 00:52:36,280 --> 00:52:38,399 Speaker 1: I did it again there to Mark, I did it again. 988 00:52:40,239 --> 00:52:43,960 Speaker 1: It's just it's just a Rosenthal curse. I noticed it 989 00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:48,680 Speaker 1: at the dinner table. Um. I have been saying that, uh, 990 00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:52,719 Speaker 1: Brady's arm wasn't the problem. I thought that last year 991 00:52:52,880 --> 00:52:55,279 Speaker 1: that he they had problems and he had problems in 992 00:52:55,280 --> 00:52:57,840 Speaker 1: their offensive problems, but his arm strength wasn't it. He 993 00:52:58,040 --> 00:53:01,239 Speaker 1: never had the strongest arm, and right now he's he's 994 00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:03,279 Speaker 1: hitting deep shots as much as anyone, and I think 995 00:53:03,320 --> 00:53:07,840 Speaker 1: his arm strength has looked great. I don't think, yeah, physically, 996 00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:10,080 Speaker 1: he looks as good as you could hope. I don't 997 00:53:10,080 --> 00:53:13,359 Speaker 1: think the offense has been awesome for a complete game. 998 00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:17,200 Speaker 1: Yet in fact, they've very consistently looked very good for 999 00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:20,080 Speaker 1: a half and sort of terrible for a half. And 1000 00:53:20,160 --> 00:53:21,920 Speaker 1: they did that last week. But that the great for 1001 00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:25,000 Speaker 1: a half was like next level. Bruce Arians bombs away 1002 00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:28,799 Speaker 1: really fun to watch. I think Gronk having that play 1003 00:53:28,840 --> 00:53:32,080 Speaker 1: a bigger role is a problem. Um, So we'll see, 1004 00:53:32,120 --> 00:53:33,840 Speaker 1: because they don't really have a guy to replace, so 1005 00:53:34,040 --> 00:53:36,680 Speaker 1: j Howard, that's what Bruce Arians said. But you said, 1006 00:53:36,719 --> 00:53:40,600 Speaker 1: I think this Bears defense is competent. They're well coached 1007 00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:43,480 Speaker 1: with Chuck Bagano, and I think they're easily the toughest 1008 00:53:43,520 --> 00:53:47,719 Speaker 1: matchup that Tampa has had. The problem is it's the 1009 00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:50,399 Speaker 1: toughest matchup you know the Bears offense has had too. 1010 00:53:50,520 --> 00:53:52,680 Speaker 1: I think even the fact that I know they just 1011 00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:54,960 Speaker 1: played the Colts, I think this Buck's defense, you know, 1012 00:53:55,000 --> 00:53:57,520 Speaker 1: would would be my pick as the toughest one to 1013 00:53:57,560 --> 00:53:59,600 Speaker 1: go against. I know the Chargers had got hit some 1014 00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:03,080 Speaker 1: shot last week, and and that can happen, um, but 1015 00:54:03,239 --> 00:54:06,200 Speaker 1: I love this Bucks defense, especially how many blitz is. 1016 00:54:06,200 --> 00:54:08,480 Speaker 1: They're gonna send that Nick Foles and and see what 1017 00:54:08,600 --> 00:54:10,120 Speaker 1: he can do. I just want to tell you one 1018 00:54:10,160 --> 00:54:11,960 Speaker 1: thing that is driving me nuts about the Bears and 1019 00:54:12,200 --> 00:54:15,080 Speaker 1: Matt Negy, who feels like the anti Matt Lafloor to 1020 00:54:15,120 --> 00:54:18,120 Speaker 1: me in many ways. He had a quote after the 1021 00:54:18,200 --> 00:54:21,000 Speaker 1: last game saying, allowing nineteen points is enough for us 1022 00:54:21,080 --> 00:54:23,479 Speaker 1: to win a football game. This has been a theme 1023 00:54:23,560 --> 00:54:26,640 Speaker 1: for us. That's their theme. Just allow nineteen points and 1024 00:54:26,680 --> 00:54:29,000 Speaker 1: a win. Here's the problem. They haven't. They have scored 1025 00:54:29,120 --> 00:54:31,800 Speaker 1: under twenty points in eleven of their past twenty games, 1026 00:54:32,200 --> 00:54:36,120 Speaker 1: and there's a win rate for teams in that situation 1027 00:54:36,239 --> 00:54:39,480 Speaker 1: where your defense allows nineteen or fewer. The Bears have 1028 00:54:39,640 --> 00:54:42,239 Speaker 1: lost four of those games because they can't. They're not 1029 00:54:42,640 --> 00:54:44,759 Speaker 1: They're not able on the other side of the ball 1030 00:54:45,040 --> 00:54:47,200 Speaker 1: to take advantage of what their defense has given them. 1031 00:54:47,400 --> 00:54:49,440 Speaker 1: I think they missed Tariko and a lot. I think 1032 00:54:49,520 --> 00:54:52,120 Speaker 1: they will like The Bears have a disease which has 1033 00:54:52,160 --> 00:54:55,800 Speaker 1: traveled around the league. And I love I love Cordurel 1034 00:54:55,880 --> 00:54:59,120 Speaker 1: Patterson as a player sort of, but they have caught 1035 00:54:59,239 --> 00:55:02,360 Speaker 1: the too much Ordarel Patterson disease. Every team that he 1036 00:55:02,800 --> 00:55:05,840 Speaker 1: goes on at some point they become convinced he should 1037 00:55:05,840 --> 00:55:08,000 Speaker 1: be a huge part of their offense. And that's always 1038 00:55:08,080 --> 00:55:10,960 Speaker 1: his last season with the team, like he's one of 1039 00:55:11,000 --> 00:55:13,759 Speaker 1: the best special teamers of the last twenty years. And 1040 00:55:13,960 --> 00:55:15,919 Speaker 1: he's a nice gadget player, but like at the moment 1041 00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:18,840 Speaker 1: where he becomes an integral part of the offense, the 1042 00:55:18,960 --> 00:55:21,279 Speaker 1: offense like it did in New England and Minnesota and 1043 00:55:21,600 --> 00:55:23,520 Speaker 1: before and then it like falls apart. They've got the 1044 00:55:23,560 --> 00:55:28,640 Speaker 1: too much quarterrel what's his ceiling like Ted Ginn, he's 1045 00:55:29,040 --> 00:55:31,080 Speaker 1: his ceiling is his first year with the team, and 1046 00:55:31,120 --> 00:55:34,440 Speaker 1: then it then it ceiling ceiling is an unreal special 1047 00:55:34,520 --> 00:55:38,120 Speaker 1: teams player, literally, you know, like one of the best 1048 00:55:38,320 --> 00:55:40,919 Speaker 1: of the last fifteen years. It should get like three 1049 00:55:41,000 --> 00:55:44,759 Speaker 1: touches a game. And that's that's his calling him a 1050 00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:49,520 Speaker 1: literal disease. Sorry, it's fun. It's too bad because he's 1051 00:55:49,520 --> 00:55:51,399 Speaker 1: a fun guy to watch too. But at some point 1052 00:55:51,480 --> 00:55:55,160 Speaker 1: every coach thinks like they're gonna unlock the Couardurel Patterson 1053 00:55:55,239 --> 00:55:58,720 Speaker 1: that the seven previous pretty good offensive coordinators haven't unlocked, 1054 00:55:58,719 --> 00:56:02,359 Speaker 1: and it never happens. You you had the Bucks shorthanded 1055 00:56:02,880 --> 00:56:06,560 Speaker 1: on a short week, uh, losing to the Bears, yes 1056 00:56:06,640 --> 00:56:09,440 Speaker 1: or no? No, I don't believe in the Bears at all. 1057 00:56:09,920 --> 00:56:14,200 Speaker 1: Just checking. I'm saying I'm staying with you. I I 1058 00:56:14,360 --> 00:56:16,160 Speaker 1: actually do believe in the Bears in this game. And 1059 00:56:16,239 --> 00:56:19,840 Speaker 1: it may be a wild theory, but we've seen the 1060 00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:22,400 Speaker 1: way the things have fallen out in Philadelphia and the 1061 00:56:22,440 --> 00:56:26,440 Speaker 1: way Frank Right talked about Nick Foles last week. It 1062 00:56:26,560 --> 00:56:28,040 Speaker 1: was kind of this idea that Nick Foles was this 1063 00:56:28,160 --> 00:56:31,239 Speaker 1: broken quarterback and Frank Wright came in and healed him right. 1064 00:56:31,719 --> 00:56:33,560 Speaker 1: And now he comes into a game where he's coaching 1065 00:56:33,600 --> 00:56:37,719 Speaker 1: against him, and he just it seemed like, um, if 1066 00:56:37,760 --> 00:56:40,200 Speaker 1: anybody knows Nick Foles his limitations, it was going to 1067 00:56:40,239 --> 00:56:43,560 Speaker 1: be the head coach of the Indianapolis Colts. And uh, 1068 00:56:43,760 --> 00:56:46,040 Speaker 1: I do expect Nick Foles and Matt Negde to have 1069 00:56:46,080 --> 00:56:49,160 Speaker 1: a little more competent offense, even against maybe a defense 1070 00:56:49,200 --> 00:56:51,680 Speaker 1: that's better in some areas in Tampa Bay. But I 1071 00:56:51,880 --> 00:56:54,520 Speaker 1: think you know, prom Tom, nick Foles I was gonna 1072 00:56:55,320 --> 00:56:59,480 Speaker 1: presents some some difficulty busing the game. Well, it's Brady 1073 00:56:59,520 --> 00:57:02,480 Speaker 1: first fall has come on. I mean, that's what he'll 1074 00:57:02,520 --> 00:57:05,280 Speaker 1: believe is the best Super Bowl performance by a quarterback 1075 00:57:05,320 --> 00:57:07,399 Speaker 1: in NFL history. And no one like wants to give 1076 00:57:07,440 --> 00:57:09,279 Speaker 1: it to Falls. They like pretend that he was lucky. 1077 00:57:09,520 --> 00:57:12,360 Speaker 1: Those throws were not lucky. They were like seven or 1078 00:57:12,440 --> 00:57:14,759 Speaker 1: eight of the greatest throws that you'll ever seen into 1079 00:57:14,800 --> 00:57:17,320 Speaker 1: tight coverage. I'm with you that I think the Bears 1080 00:57:17,400 --> 00:57:20,280 Speaker 1: are too big an underdog. They're a sizeable underdog in 1081 00:57:20,360 --> 00:57:22,560 Speaker 1: this game, and I think I think it'll be tight. 1082 00:57:22,640 --> 00:57:24,400 Speaker 1: I mean, put it this way. I think Folds outplayed 1083 00:57:24,440 --> 00:57:26,680 Speaker 1: Philip Rivers in that game. I don't think Folds was 1084 00:57:26,800 --> 00:57:29,920 Speaker 1: like the worst player ever, but they just don't have 1085 00:57:29,960 --> 00:57:33,160 Speaker 1: a lot going on, not take I mean, you got 1086 00:57:33,600 --> 00:57:37,040 Speaker 1: Phil Sims in twenty one, You've got Joe Montana Super Bowls, 1087 00:57:37,080 --> 00:57:40,160 Speaker 1: You've got Steve Young against the Chargers. These were all 1088 00:57:40,480 --> 00:57:43,480 Speaker 1: amazing games. So I just want to put some tight 1089 00:57:43,600 --> 00:57:47,120 Speaker 1: windows forty one points back and forth, you know, beating 1090 00:57:47,240 --> 00:57:49,560 Speaker 1: Tom Brady who had five hundred yards. It was more 1091 00:57:49,680 --> 00:57:52,720 Speaker 1: like the we already been talking about Nick Foles catching 1092 00:57:52,760 --> 00:57:54,520 Speaker 1: the ball in that game, which was you know, part 1093 00:57:54,560 --> 00:57:58,880 Speaker 1: of the story too. Definitely cut in uh one of 1094 00:57:58,960 --> 00:58:00,600 Speaker 1: the cut into a lead it or gave them a 1095 00:58:00,640 --> 00:58:02,760 Speaker 1: slight lead going into halftime of that game. What was 1096 00:58:02,800 --> 00:58:05,800 Speaker 1: it again? I'm not getting into it, but if I'm 1097 00:58:05,840 --> 00:58:08,480 Speaker 1: not niggy, I start Mitchell Trabisky every single game and 1098 00:58:08,520 --> 00:58:11,120 Speaker 1: Brick bring Nick Foles in with about two minutes to 1099 00:58:11,160 --> 00:58:13,880 Speaker 1: go uh left in the first quarter. Then you get 1100 00:58:13,920 --> 00:58:15,960 Speaker 1: the Nick Foles. He's probably been a little annoyed that 1101 00:58:16,040 --> 00:58:18,520 Speaker 1: he's not starting. Then you get you know that he's unhinged. 1102 00:58:18,960 --> 00:58:21,560 Speaker 1: This starting Nick Foles business is a disaster. I don't 1103 00:58:21,600 --> 00:58:25,200 Speaker 1: start him. You're bring him in later. Al right, good stuff. 1104 00:58:25,440 --> 00:58:29,400 Speaker 1: Check it out. Watch Colleen on NFL network. I keep 1105 00:58:29,400 --> 00:58:31,320 Speaker 1: the dial on NFL network. You can go to Fox 1106 00:58:31,400 --> 00:58:34,400 Speaker 1: if you want, But why would you watch Clai Bonn 1107 00:58:34,480 --> 00:58:36,880 Speaker 1: on Fantasy Live three times a week? I saw him 1108 00:58:37,600 --> 00:58:41,080 Speaker 1: hosting like a hard pivot to Bill O'Brien. The Bill 1109 00:58:41,120 --> 00:58:44,920 Speaker 1: O'Brien firing coverage just ended with like, you know, somber 1110 00:58:45,000 --> 00:58:48,480 Speaker 1: tones of Ian Rappaport, and then they and it's like, Hey, 1111 00:58:48,560 --> 00:58:51,200 Speaker 1: I'm Patrick Clawy, So what's the fantasy impact of Bill 1112 00:58:51,240 --> 00:58:58,120 Speaker 1: O'Brien being like that? We had all this fun stuff 1113 00:58:58,240 --> 00:59:00,680 Speaker 1: landed and then it's like, oh, yeah, Bill o'brown's dead now. 1114 00:59:03,440 --> 00:59:09,000 Speaker 1: I do like I like Ian Rappaport, like sad, serious voice, 1115 00:59:09,760 --> 00:59:14,080 Speaker 1: and that's what's happening right now. Exack Andrew. It's like, okay, 1116 00:59:14,760 --> 00:59:19,040 Speaker 1: sound to get serious. Walter cronkite. Um. All right, thank 1117 00:59:19,080 --> 00:59:22,240 Speaker 1: you Patrick for joining us. One thing on a serious 1118 00:59:22,280 --> 00:59:26,400 Speaker 1: note to end the show. Really sad news for Mark 1119 00:59:26,480 --> 00:59:31,440 Speaker 1: and I and everyone connected to Jason Feller, who is 1120 00:59:31,520 --> 00:59:36,480 Speaker 1: a NFL dot com um guy from the very beginning. Uh. 1121 00:59:36,600 --> 00:59:38,720 Speaker 1: He was part of the team that relaunched NFL dot 1122 00:59:38,760 --> 00:59:41,360 Speaker 1: com and the late two thousand's and then was there 1123 00:59:41,880 --> 00:59:44,960 Speaker 1: through the early period of Mark and I being there 1124 00:59:44,960 --> 00:59:46,800 Speaker 1: and it was always such a good dude. He passed 1125 00:59:46,800 --> 00:59:50,880 Speaker 1: away yesterday from cancer. It was a long four year battle. Uh, 1126 00:59:51,640 --> 00:59:53,560 Speaker 1: you know, pretty crushing. He's he's got a wife and 1127 00:59:53,640 --> 00:59:58,160 Speaker 1: two young children. So we lost Feller far too soon. Um, 1128 00:59:58,560 --> 01:00:00,920 Speaker 1: And just to let every and known, you could check 1129 01:00:00,960 --> 01:00:04,160 Speaker 1: it out on our social accounts. But uh, and I 1130 01:00:04,280 --> 01:00:07,520 Speaker 1: can't even imagine how how you're able to do this thing. 1131 01:00:07,600 --> 01:00:10,240 Speaker 1: But Feller, before he passed away, was involved was starting 1132 01:00:10,320 --> 01:00:12,440 Speaker 1: up a go fund me to help pay for the 1133 01:00:12,520 --> 01:00:15,960 Speaker 1: funeral costs and the mounting medical bills that aren't covered 1134 01:00:15,960 --> 01:00:17,880 Speaker 1: by insurance for his family. So if you want to 1135 01:00:18,840 --> 01:00:20,800 Speaker 1: help out somebody, and Mark, I know you have thoughts 1136 01:00:20,840 --> 01:00:23,720 Speaker 1: on this too, who was a really special guy who's 1137 01:00:23,720 --> 01:00:26,440 Speaker 1: gone too soon, go check out our social and hit 1138 01:00:26,520 --> 01:00:28,480 Speaker 1: the link and anything you could give to help get 1139 01:00:28,480 --> 01:00:31,840 Speaker 1: towards their goal would be UM great. Yeah, I mean 1140 01:00:32,040 --> 01:00:35,040 Speaker 1: Jason was he was there when we first arrived, and 1141 01:00:35,200 --> 01:00:37,560 Speaker 1: back then, you know, you know clayboln you see the 1142 01:00:37,680 --> 01:00:40,040 Speaker 1: NFL Network news from today, You're probably one of the 1143 01:00:40,080 --> 01:00:42,600 Speaker 1: only people in there. But it's massive, it's it's it's 1144 01:00:42,640 --> 01:00:44,760 Speaker 1: this big, long room and that building by the way, 1145 01:00:44,760 --> 01:00:46,040 Speaker 1: it used to be a call center. We can talk 1146 01:00:46,080 --> 01:00:48,320 Speaker 1: about that another time. But when I got there, it 1147 01:00:48,480 --> 01:00:50,680 Speaker 1: was very small, right Dan, I mean, and they broke 1148 01:00:50,720 --> 01:00:52,479 Speaker 1: down walls and stuff, but it was just a news 1149 01:00:52,600 --> 01:00:55,800 Speaker 1: desk of about um ten twelve people tops, I mean 1150 01:00:55,840 --> 01:00:58,440 Speaker 1: the whole thing. And I came in there, I couldn't 1151 01:00:58,440 --> 01:01:01,000 Speaker 1: have been more raw. And Jason Feller was a sports nut, 1152 01:01:01,160 --> 01:01:03,160 Speaker 1: like he reminds me of Greg a little bit, where 1153 01:01:03,200 --> 01:01:05,760 Speaker 1: like we'd be like in the middle of a dense 1154 01:01:05,840 --> 01:01:08,120 Speaker 1: day of NFL action and he'd be watching like a 1155 01:01:08,200 --> 01:01:12,120 Speaker 1: tennis game, um from like Central Japan, and like, you know, 1156 01:01:12,200 --> 01:01:14,120 Speaker 1: a bowling thing, and he's all fired up about all 1157 01:01:14,200 --> 01:01:16,320 Speaker 1: three sports at the same time. And I would give 1158 01:01:16,400 --> 01:01:18,360 Speaker 1: him my copy occasionally because I was still figuring out 1159 01:01:18,360 --> 01:01:20,320 Speaker 1: what the hell was going on. And he'd read it 1160 01:01:20,400 --> 01:01:22,040 Speaker 1: and like he'd come back, he'd say, all right, it's fine, 1161 01:01:22,160 --> 01:01:24,920 Speaker 1: goes this line. What the hell is this line? This 1162 01:01:25,080 --> 01:01:27,600 Speaker 1: does not belong in a spin a story. I was like, whoa. 1163 01:01:27,640 --> 01:01:30,360 Speaker 1: I mean, he would teach you. But he was an awesome, kind, 1164 01:01:30,760 --> 01:01:32,880 Speaker 1: wonderful guy. And Dan, I know that you battled him 1165 01:01:32,880 --> 01:01:35,440 Speaker 1: on the basketball court of me as a passionate individual 1166 01:01:35,520 --> 01:01:38,320 Speaker 1: who will be very missed. Yeah, he will be missed. 1167 01:01:38,360 --> 01:01:40,280 Speaker 1: So yeah, I check that out again on social If 1168 01:01:40,320 --> 01:01:42,520 Speaker 1: you can even a little can go a long way. 1169 01:01:43,440 --> 01:01:46,520 Speaker 1: All right, Rest in peace, Jason feller Um. We'll be 1170 01:01:46,640 --> 01:01:51,400 Speaker 1: back on Thursday with another edition of the Around the 1171 01:01:51,520 --> 01:01:55,760 Speaker 1: NFL podcast, previewing all of the week five action. Also 1172 01:01:56,240 --> 01:01:59,800 Speaker 1: Thursday night, we'll have a recap of the Thursday night 1173 01:01:59,840 --> 01:02:03,240 Speaker 1: game we just previewed, and then of course we'll also 1174 01:02:03,320 --> 01:02:06,920 Speaker 1: be getting ready to roll out our latest NFL Network 1175 01:02:06,960 --> 01:02:10,040 Speaker 1: program on Saturday, which is a preview of the week 1176 01:02:10,120 --> 01:02:11,560 Speaker 1: to come as well, So make sure you check in 1177 01:02:12,000 --> 01:02:15,520 Speaker 1: on all that. And Clay Boon thank you again. Thank 1178 01:02:15,600 --> 01:02:19,840 Speaker 1: you guys. You are the man always always get it done, 1179 01:02:20,040 --> 01:03:04,520 Speaker 1: as did Seth Pain. So until Thursday, thanks for listening. Yes, 1180 01:03:04,840 --> 01:03:04,880 Speaker 1: s