1 00:00:01,680 --> 00:00:07,160 Speaker 1: Cool Zone Media. 2 00:00:07,960 --> 00:00:11,920 Speaker 2: This is It could Happen here Executive Disorder, our weekly 3 00:00:11,960 --> 00:00:14,720 Speaker 2: newscast covering what's happening in the White House, the crumbling world, 4 00:00:14,800 --> 00:00:17,279 Speaker 2: and what it means for you. I'm Garrison Davis today. 5 00:00:17,320 --> 00:00:21,560 Speaker 2: I'm joined by James Stout, Mia Wong and maybe Sophie Lichtermann. 6 00:00:22,120 --> 00:00:26,720 Speaker 3: Maybe, yeah, let's send you first name. 7 00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:30,440 Speaker 1: I'm always here. I just don't necessarily have anything to 8 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:33,960 Speaker 1: add because you're all so good at your jobs. 9 00:00:34,240 --> 00:00:37,040 Speaker 2: No, no, we love when Sophie has something to contribute 10 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:40,479 Speaker 2: to this show. So what should we talk about? 11 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:40,840 Speaker 4: First? 12 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:44,519 Speaker 1: Let's do some quick updates from last week. As we 13 00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:47,640 Speaker 1: mentioned in the episode description, last week we recorded prior 14 00:00:47,680 --> 00:00:51,200 Speaker 1: to an incident that happened in Portland where two people 15 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:57,200 Speaker 1: were shot by board patrol or ice. Very unclear that 16 00:00:57,400 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 1: there was not a lot of information given out and 17 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:04,600 Speaker 1: the way that the situation unfolded, the way that DHS 18 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:07,280 Speaker 1: said it that there was a targeted stop of two 19 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:11,480 Speaker 1: people and they resisted arrest. So of course what do 20 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:11,840 Speaker 1: they do? 21 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:14,319 Speaker 4: Just shoot into a car and. 22 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:18,600 Speaker 1: Those people drove away and then quickly called for help 23 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 1: and then went to the hospital. We really don't know 24 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:29,000 Speaker 1: anything further than that. I watched many press conferences from 25 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:32,400 Speaker 1: Oregon and Portland officials, including the governor and the mayor, 26 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:38,160 Speaker 1: talking about the situation. Everybody's pretty horrified by it locally. 27 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:43,440 Speaker 1: But that's not the story we were getting from DHS. 28 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 1: I can read the statement if you guys want, okay, yeah, 29 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:51,960 Speaker 1: since Robert's don't here. Robert was at CS but was 30 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 1: also following the story very closely and did some reporting 31 00:01:55,520 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 1: on his Blue sky if you want to go back 32 00:01:57,480 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 1: and look at that. But the statement from DHS said 33 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:04,720 Speaker 1: at two nineteen pst. US Border Patrol agents were conducting 34 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 1: a targeted vehicle stop in Portland. Organ The passengers of 35 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:12,079 Speaker 1: the vehicle and target is a Venezuelan illegal alien affiliated 36 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 1: with the transnational gang trendy Agua prostitution ring and involved 37 00:02:16,760 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 1: in a recent shooting in Portland. The vehicle drivers believed 38 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:22,800 Speaker 1: to be a member of the vicious Venezuelan gang trendy Agua. 39 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:24,600 Speaker 1: They love to just throw that out of that. When 40 00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 1: agents identified themselves to the vehicle occupants, the driver weaponized 41 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:31,959 Speaker 1: his vehicle and attempted to run over the law enforcement agents. 42 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:35,000 Speaker 1: Fearing for his life and safety, An agent fire defensive 43 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:38,440 Speaker 1: shot the driver drove off, with the passenger fleeing the scene. 44 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 1: The situation is evolving and more information is forthcoming. That 45 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:45,600 Speaker 1: was on January eighth, at about five pm Pacific, And 46 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:50,320 Speaker 1: that's their take, that's their go to move. The excuse 47 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:53,320 Speaker 1: for randomly shooting at a car is that they were 48 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:57,360 Speaker 1: weaponizing the vehicle towards the agent. We really don't know 49 00:02:57,520 --> 00:03:00,160 Speaker 1: much further than that, Miya. Do you have anything you 50 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:00,640 Speaker 1: want to add? 51 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:03,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, so I think we should make two things through one. 52 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 4: Both of the people who were shot have survived, which 53 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 4: is good. 54 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 3: Yeah. 55 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:12,120 Speaker 4: Yes, it's also worth noting that. So the day we 56 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 4: are recording this, on the fourteenth, there was a report 57 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:21,280 Speaker 4: released by Del Cameron and Ryan Shapiro at Wired talking 58 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:25,320 Speaker 4: specifically about how they got a bunch of intelligence documents 59 00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:30,960 Speaker 4: from the Trump administration about trend Agua and briefly supprised 60 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 4: or I'm just going to quote the subtitle of it 61 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 4: because it gives a good representation of what is in 62 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:39,160 Speaker 4: the actual intelligence documents. That's all the info we need. Yeah, 63 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:42,800 Speaker 4: hundreds of records that pained by Wired shows thin intelligence 64 00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:46,279 Speaker 4: on the Venezuelan Gang of the United States, describing fragmented 65 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 4: low level crime rather than a coordinated terrorist threat, So 66 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 4: they could barely even find existence of this group in 67 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:59,000 Speaker 4: the United States. These two people. I am ninety nine. 68 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 4: I would I would stake my life on the on 69 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:05,040 Speaker 4: none of the stuff in that report about them being 70 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 4: in this Venezuelan criminal organization being true. Almost everything that 71 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 4: has come out of Homeland Security, as we've talked about 72 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:16,920 Speaker 4: with every other previous shooting, almost everything that comes out 73 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:20,599 Speaker 4: of Homeland Security is a lie. So yeah, we will 74 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:24,120 Speaker 4: probably in the coming weeks figure out what actually happens. 75 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:28,960 Speaker 4: But unfortunately, right now we're relying on a combination of 76 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 4: Portland government officials who are somewhat more reliable, and the 77 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:36,240 Speaker 4: Department of Homeland Security, which is utterly unreliable. Yeah. 78 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:39,680 Speaker 2: I do have one thing to note here as for 79 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:43,280 Speaker 2: what the local officials in Portland are saying. Portland Police 80 00:04:43,279 --> 00:04:47,040 Speaker 2: Bureau Chief Bob Day started a January tenth press conference 81 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 2: by saying, quote, recently, I read the Declaration of Independence 82 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:56,600 Speaker 2: for the first time unquote, and then stated that the 83 00:04:56,640 --> 00:05:00,600 Speaker 2: two victims of the shooting have quote some next is 84 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:05,240 Speaker 2: to involvement with Trenda Agua, and then on January eleventh, 85 00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 2: Maltnama County District Attorney Nathan Vasquez was interviewed on CADU 86 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:11,560 Speaker 2: News and said that he believes trend to Agua is 87 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:13,599 Speaker 2: active in Portland, but he can not confirm in his 88 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 2: office has any criminal cases against the gang. 89 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:19,960 Speaker 5: The Department of Homeland Security has identified the people who 90 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:23,160 Speaker 5: were shot, saying they are affiliated with Trinda I Ragua, 91 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 5: the Venezuelan gang, and are connected to other crimes in Portland. 92 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:30,279 Speaker 5: Does your office have any cases against these individuals? 93 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 6: You know, this is all These are all things that 94 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:34,280 Speaker 6: we're going to be looking at and going through very 95 00:05:34,320 --> 00:05:38,159 Speaker 6: carefully as we evaluate the case. One to make sure 96 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:40,159 Speaker 6: that if there are other pending matters out there that 97 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:42,720 Speaker 6: they're taken care of, but also just to make sure 98 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:44,240 Speaker 6: we get a full picture of what's going on in 99 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:44,800 Speaker 6: this situation. 100 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:48,279 Speaker 5: Do you have any knowledge of whether trendera Ragua is 101 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:50,360 Speaker 5: active in Portland and Maltnoma County. 102 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:53,799 Speaker 6: It's certainly something that we have seen and we are 103 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:57,360 Speaker 6: we are working on with our local law enforcement. We 104 00:05:57,120 --> 00:06:00,560 Speaker 6: have seen them in our area. They are one of 105 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:04,160 Speaker 6: kind of a host of different groups or individuals out 106 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:06,960 Speaker 6: there that are engaged in criminal activity, and it's something 107 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:07,800 Speaker 6: that we're working on. 108 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:15,120 Speaker 1: Just a lot of biased disinformation and misinformation. We don't 109 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:19,400 Speaker 1: actually really know what happened, but I am grateful that 110 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:23,279 Speaker 1: those folks did not lose their lives unlike Renee Good. 111 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 3: Yeah. 112 00:06:24,839 --> 00:06:28,159 Speaker 4: Yeah, And I also briefly want to mention here about 113 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:31,960 Speaker 4: Renee Good. There's been an attempt by the Department of Justice. 114 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:34,200 Speaker 4: A bunch of people at the Department Justice have resigned 115 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:36,760 Speaker 4: rather than attempt to prosecute Renee Good's wife. 116 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:41,040 Speaker 2: Six high level prosecutors have resigned in the past week. 117 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:44,400 Speaker 4: And this has been a very very standard reaction from 118 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:47,240 Speaker 4: law enforcement when they don't kill someone or when there's 119 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:50,200 Speaker 4: someone else on the scene. A few months ago, Ice 120 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 4: shot a woman in Chicago. She thankfully survived, but they 121 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 4: also charged her afterwards. So this is a very very 122 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:00,960 Speaker 4: standard practice, and they are right now trying this on 123 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:04,599 Speaker 4: Rene Good's wife after she watched her fucking wife get 124 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:07,680 Speaker 4: killed in front of her. Yeah. 125 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:09,640 Speaker 3: So I know people have also been waiting for updates 126 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 3: on Iran. We have an episode that came out. It 127 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:15,640 Speaker 3: will have come out on Wednesday, two days before this 128 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 3: comes out, So if you'd like to know more about 129 00:07:17,440 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 3: what's happening in Iran, we had a really excellent talk 130 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:22,040 Speaker 3: with Gordayen, and I would suggest you go back and 131 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 3: find that episode. And I wanted to update people on 132 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:29,600 Speaker 3: what is happening in Syria. I guess specifically northern Syria 133 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 3: right now. So the two neighborhoods Shikmunk sud Ne so Fria, 134 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:38,080 Speaker 3: those are both neighborhoods in Aleppo. Right that there's sometimes 135 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:42,360 Speaker 3: characterized as Kurdish neighborhoods, but like ZD people live there. 136 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:45,120 Speaker 3: There are various Christian people living there as well. Right, 137 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:49,000 Speaker 3: it's not one hundred percent Kurdish. I think sometimes there's 138 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:51,560 Speaker 3: a tendency among people who write about Syria to see 139 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 3: things as ethnic modelists, and I think that is not 140 00:07:54,960 --> 00:07:58,160 Speaker 3: the way to approach these things. But anyway, both of 141 00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 3: those neighborhoods have now been fully seized by the Syrian 142 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:06,760 Speaker 3: Transitional government. Some SDF fighters will bust back to Kamishlo, 143 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:10,160 Speaker 3: which is the capital of the aa Nes somethimes known 144 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:15,840 Speaker 3: as Frojava fighting is now moving closer to the Euphrates, right, 145 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:19,000 Speaker 3: closer to the core of what people will call Rasjava. 146 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:22,240 Speaker 3: I think at a minimum, the goal is probably to 147 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 3: remove the SDF from any areas and are not majority Kurdish, 148 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:30,800 Speaker 3: so right now that they're fighting in der Haafa and 149 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:33,679 Speaker 3: they will begin fighting, or that they have already been 150 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:36,640 Speaker 3: drawne attacks in other areas as well. In a leopard 151 00:08:36,679 --> 00:08:39,240 Speaker 3: Is Syrian observed. Joined Human Rights, which is a Writen 152 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:42,840 Speaker 3: based human rights organization, documented several war crimes and going 153 00:08:42,880 --> 00:08:46,520 Speaker 3: to quote here, SOHR documented twenty three cases of extra 154 00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:49,920 Speaker 3: judicial executions and desecration of bodies in shik Maksud and 155 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:53,440 Speaker 3: Alasafriya neighborhoods in Aleppo City in the past few days. 156 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:56,760 Speaker 3: Here are further details. The bodies of fifteen members of 157 00:08:56,800 --> 00:09:00,520 Speaker 3: the Internal Security Forces ASAISH including body. These are four 158 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:04,040 Speaker 3: female members were deliberately incinerated. A female member of the 159 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:06,559 Speaker 3: SAH forces was killed during the clashes and her body 160 00:09:06,640 --> 00:09:08,680 Speaker 3: was thrown from the top of the building. The reason 161 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:10,960 Speaker 3: they've been able to document these is that they're widely 162 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:14,280 Speaker 3: broadcast on telegram. Right, people are very proud of what 163 00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:18,360 Speaker 3: our war crimes, the desecration of the remains. At the 164 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 3: same time, the Islamic State carried out three simultaneous attacks 165 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:27,000 Speaker 3: on the twelfth of January during several SDF personnel and 166 00:09:27,080 --> 00:09:31,840 Speaker 3: it seems that this whole debacle has put the peace 167 00:09:31,880 --> 00:09:35,679 Speaker 3: process between the PKK. The PKK is a distinct entity 168 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:39,920 Speaker 3: from the SDF right, but nonetheless the PKK yes it 169 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:44,400 Speaker 3: is seeing Kurdish people killed in Syria and Turkish support. 170 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:44,560 Speaker 4: Right. 171 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:48,800 Speaker 3: There have been some reports of Turkish drones being used 172 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:52,160 Speaker 3: or flying around there. So the KSEK, if people aren't 173 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:55,200 Speaker 3: familiar to, KSEK, is the organization that brings together the 174 00:09:55,240 --> 00:09:58,520 Speaker 3: different political groups in Kurdis Dan that broadly adhere to 175 00:09:58,559 --> 00:10:02,960 Speaker 3: the political idealogy your thought of Abdula oh Julan, but 176 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:06,040 Speaker 3: take different approaches to that. The k c K released 177 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:08,520 Speaker 3: a statement saying, quote, the attacks on Chikmunk, Sud and 178 00:10:08,520 --> 00:10:11,440 Speaker 3: Asafria and the preparations for attacks on the east of 179 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:14,000 Speaker 3: the Euphrates also call into question the cease fire between 180 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:18,240 Speaker 3: our movement and Turkey and the ongoing peace and democratic society. 181 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:21,199 Speaker 3: That is not great, right, Yeah, you know, this is 182 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:23,760 Speaker 3: a place where people have been at war, killing and 183 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:26,680 Speaker 3: dying for more than a decade, and it's very sad 184 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:29,960 Speaker 3: to think of more killing and dying happening there. Garina, 185 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:33,400 Speaker 3: you wanted to talk a little bit about some domestic terrorism, 186 00:10:33,440 --> 00:10:36,880 Speaker 3: I guess some actual domestic terrorism and us an attack rate. 187 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:37,760 Speaker 3: Do you want to talk about that? 188 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 4: Yes. 189 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:44,360 Speaker 2: On Saturday, January tenth, the Beth Israel Congregation Synagogue in Mississippi, 190 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:47,360 Speaker 2: and historic synagogue, the oldest in the state that was 191 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 2: once targeted by the KKK, was set on fire in 192 00:10:51,160 --> 00:10:55,559 Speaker 2: the middle of the night, damaging the interior of the building. 193 00:10:56,200 --> 00:11:00,400 Speaker 2: A nineteen year old college student named Stephen Spencer Pittman 194 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:03,480 Speaker 2: has been charged with federal and state arson charges, as 195 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:07,720 Speaker 2: well as a hate crime enhancement. On Instagram, Pittman described 196 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:12,120 Speaker 2: himself as a quote unquote follower of Christ and shared 197 00:11:12,160 --> 00:11:16,320 Speaker 2: a meme of the anti Semitic happy Merchant hours before 198 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 2: the attack. 199 00:11:17,440 --> 00:11:18,840 Speaker 4: Jesus Christ Jesu. 200 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:22,760 Speaker 2: The happy Merchant is an anti Semantic Jewish stereotype that 201 00:11:22,920 --> 00:11:27,200 Speaker 2: is often used in memes originating from the four Chen 202 00:11:27,400 --> 00:11:31,120 Speaker 2: era of WOA Jack memes. You've probably seen it before. 203 00:11:31,160 --> 00:11:34,240 Speaker 2: It's a crude, anti Semitic rendering of a Jewish person 204 00:11:34,920 --> 00:11:40,320 Speaker 2: with his hands clasped together. Pittman has confessed to starting 205 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:43,080 Speaker 2: a fire in the building, which he described as the 206 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:47,199 Speaker 2: quote unquote Synagogue of Satan. According to an FBI affidavit 207 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:51,760 Speaker 2: and reporting from the AP states that during his first hearing. 208 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:55,640 Speaker 2: When the judge read him his rights, Pittman said, quote, 209 00:11:55,880 --> 00:11:57,520 Speaker 2: Jesus Christ is Lord. 210 00:11:58,120 --> 00:11:58,440 Speaker 4: Quote. 211 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:02,160 Speaker 2: According to the FBI ay Affidavid Pittman texted his own 212 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:05,599 Speaker 2: father during the arson, sending a photo of the synagogue 213 00:12:05,640 --> 00:12:09,199 Speaker 2: with the messages there's a furnace in the back, hoodie 214 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:15,240 Speaker 2: is on, and they have the best cameras unquote. Pittman's 215 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:18,560 Speaker 2: father attempted to convince his son to come home and 216 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:23,120 Speaker 2: later turned him into the authorities. Pittman suffered burns to 217 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:26,800 Speaker 2: himself during this attack. He's the only person injured as 218 00:12:26,840 --> 00:12:28,600 Speaker 2: a result of this incident. 219 00:12:28,880 --> 00:12:32,000 Speaker 4: Big flee. I'm glad he got hurt. 220 00:12:32,840 --> 00:12:37,120 Speaker 2: Pittman's phone was found in the synagogue, damaged from the fire, 221 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:39,920 Speaker 2: though his location was able to be tracked via the 222 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:44,920 Speaker 2: Life three sixty GPS tracking app, which shows a stop 223 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:48,359 Speaker 2: at a gas station where Pittman allegedly picked up gasoline 224 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:51,160 Speaker 2: before heading onto the synagogue. 225 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:56,000 Speaker 3: Great of what a fucking idiot. But yeah, I think 226 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:58,240 Speaker 3: this is the only synagogue in the state right like. 227 00:12:58,559 --> 00:13:01,280 Speaker 2: To the oldest synagogue in the state. I doubt this 228 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:03,840 Speaker 2: is the only synagogue in Mississippi. 229 00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:04,720 Speaker 4: The largest one. That's it. 230 00:13:04,840 --> 00:13:07,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, yeah, it's it's like the most famous one 231 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:07,800 Speaker 2: from the Yeah. 232 00:13:07,880 --> 00:13:09,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, and like you said, it was attacked by the 233 00:13:09,679 --> 00:13:12,319 Speaker 3: Klan before it was didn't he attack exactly the same 234 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:14,880 Speaker 3: part of the synagogue that the Klan previously burned. 235 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:18,080 Speaker 2: I don't have that in my notes, but that is it. 236 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:20,680 Speaker 3: Seems like that's what he was same vibes. 237 00:13:21,240 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 2: No, he did say that he did a lot of 238 00:13:25,040 --> 00:13:28,480 Speaker 2: research on the target and that he needed a home 239 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:32,920 Speaker 2: run in communications to his father, and Pittman was a 240 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:37,000 Speaker 2: baseball player in the state. There's not much more to 241 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:42,480 Speaker 2: say about this, Like this is a weirdo Instagram Christian 242 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:48,760 Speaker 2: Zoomer who also offered like a fitness service. It's unclear 243 00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:51,560 Speaker 2: how real this is or if he had like, you know, customers, 244 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:55,400 Speaker 2: but he was offering faith based fitness transformations. 245 00:13:55,880 --> 00:13:57,600 Speaker 3: Jes Yeah, that's the thing. 246 00:13:58,080 --> 00:14:00,480 Speaker 2: Like you have a little bit of like the Christian 247 00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:03,439 Speaker 2: looks Max sur Vibe going on with him, as well 248 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:07,679 Speaker 2: as sharing a series of anti Smitic posts made on Instagram. 249 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:12,600 Speaker 3: Yeah did you see this, Deborah lipstat tweet gere No So. 250 00:14:12,640 --> 00:14:16,040 Speaker 3: Deborah lipsdat right, who was previously the she like the 251 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:20,360 Speaker 3: envoy on anti Semitism, posted a twenty three on January eleventh. 252 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:22,520 Speaker 3: This is a major tragedy, but it's more than that. 253 00:14:22,560 --> 00:14:25,320 Speaker 3: It's an arson attack and another step in the globalization 254 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:26,280 Speaker 3: of the Intefada. 255 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:29,560 Speaker 2: Thates not seem to be the case. Yeah, it doesn't know. 256 00:14:29,720 --> 00:14:33,520 Speaker 3: No, but this is like pretty uh way off base 257 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:36,880 Speaker 3: in fact, right, But yeah, I think it's still rather 258 00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:37,520 Speaker 3: telling that. 259 00:14:37,880 --> 00:14:41,240 Speaker 2: This is This is not like a Hamas anti imperialist 260 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:46,280 Speaker 2: Zoomer red triangle in biotype guy. This is a right 261 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:52,520 Speaker 2: wing Christian nationalist college athlete, Christian Zoomer who shares anti 262 00:14:52,520 --> 00:14:56,120 Speaker 2: Smitic memes on Instagram. This is a pretty standard, you know, 263 00:14:56,240 --> 00:15:01,440 Speaker 2: pre twenty twenty two type of like synagoguet. Yeah, in fact, 264 00:15:01,560 --> 00:15:04,000 Speaker 2: the fire was started right in front of a Tree 265 00:15:04,040 --> 00:15:06,680 Speaker 2: of Life memorial plaque in this synagogue. 266 00:15:06,960 --> 00:15:09,840 Speaker 4: Jesus Christ God, of course it was yeah. 267 00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:15,280 Speaker 2: Fuck quick correction or clarification. Though the fire was started 268 00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:18,600 Speaker 2: in front of a Tree of Life wall plaque, this 269 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:22,440 Speaker 2: wall memorial plaque is unrelated to the Tree of Life 270 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:25,640 Speaker 2: shooting in Pittsburgh and is specific to the Beth Israel 271 00:15:25,680 --> 00:15:29,960 Speaker 2: Synagogue to commemorate and honor important life events for members 272 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:31,720 Speaker 2: of the congregation. 273 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:47,520 Speaker 4: And we are back. So, the thing I thought I 274 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 4: was going to be talking about this week was a 275 00:15:49,640 --> 00:15:52,840 Speaker 4: Supreme Court ruling on Trump's tariffs. However, the Supreme Court, 276 00:15:53,440 --> 00:15:56,840 Speaker 4: contrary to the expectations of basically everyone, didn't actually release 277 00:15:56,880 --> 00:15:58,800 Speaker 4: a ruling on the tariff stuff today. We have no 278 00:15:58,880 --> 00:16:03,000 Speaker 4: idea when they're going to release that. However, instead of that, 279 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:07,400 Speaker 4: we got one of the most bizarre and extraordinary statements 280 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:09,960 Speaker 4: and videos I have ever seen from someone who was 281 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:13,880 Speaker 4: even remotely affiliated with the US government. So on Sunday, 282 00:16:14,400 --> 00:16:18,760 Speaker 4: Thorer Reserve Chair Jerome Powell released, I don't even have 283 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:21,000 Speaker 4: a good reference for what this is. The closest thing 284 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:22,920 Speaker 4: I can think of is it's a kidnapping video, but 285 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:26,280 Speaker 4: it's more like a help I'm about to be kidnapped video, 286 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:29,920 Speaker 4: in which she says, quote, the Department of Justice serve 287 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:33,600 Speaker 4: the Thorough Reserve with grand jury subpoenas threatening a criminal 288 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:36,800 Speaker 4: indictment related to my testimony before the Senate Banking Committee 289 00:16:36,840 --> 00:16:41,360 Speaker 4: last June. So this is nominally about cost overruns effectively 290 00:16:41,520 --> 00:16:44,760 Speaker 4: in renovations of the Federal Reserve. If anyone has ever 291 00:16:44,800 --> 00:16:47,200 Speaker 4: paid attention to any single US government project ever, you 292 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:50,960 Speaker 4: will know that there are cost overruns on by most projects. 293 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:54,800 Speaker 4: This is just how the government works, because you come 294 00:16:54,840 --> 00:16:57,000 Speaker 4: in with your little bid that's below what the actual 295 00:16:57,040 --> 00:16:58,320 Speaker 4: cause is going to be, and then it costs more 296 00:16:58,320 --> 00:17:03,400 Speaker 4: than that. Now this investigation is being run directly into 297 00:17:03,520 --> 00:17:07,159 Speaker 4: Jerome Powell. And by the way, this statement was published 298 00:17:07,920 --> 00:17:10,200 Speaker 4: on the Federal Reserves. This is like an official statement 299 00:17:10,520 --> 00:17:11,800 Speaker 4: from the Federal Reserve Board. 300 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:12,880 Speaker 3: Yeah. 301 00:17:12,920 --> 00:17:15,199 Speaker 4: So he also says later in the statement, quote, the 302 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:18,160 Speaker 4: threat of criminal charges is a consequence of the Federal 303 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:22,040 Speaker 4: Reserve setting interest rates based on our best assessments of 304 00:17:22,080 --> 00:17:25,080 Speaker 4: what will serve the public, rather than following the preferences 305 00:17:25,080 --> 00:17:27,720 Speaker 4: of the presidents. This is about whether the Fed will 306 00:17:27,720 --> 00:17:29,960 Speaker 4: be able to continue to set interest rates based on 307 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:34,440 Speaker 4: evidence and economic conditions, or whether instead monetary policy will 308 00:17:34,480 --> 00:17:40,120 Speaker 4: be directed by political pressures or intimidation. This is extraordinary. 309 00:17:40,680 --> 00:17:45,800 Speaker 4: They got sixteen other central bank leaders from around the world, 310 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:50,120 Speaker 4: and we're talking about Norway to Indonesia to submit a 311 00:17:50,200 --> 00:17:54,320 Speaker 4: letter expressing where they use the word solidarity to express 312 00:17:54,320 --> 00:17:57,359 Speaker 4: the support of Powell. I cannot emphasize enough. Do you 313 00:17:57,440 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 4: know how bad it is to get central bank leaders 314 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:02,040 Speaker 4: is to say the word solidarity? 315 00:18:04,680 --> 00:18:05,560 Speaker 1: Yeah? 316 00:18:05,680 --> 00:18:08,840 Speaker 4: Now, this is following a Trump two pattern of using 317 00:18:08,880 --> 00:18:12,640 Speaker 4: the DOJ to attack their political enemies. Today, the fourteenth, 318 00:18:12,720 --> 00:18:15,600 Speaker 4: as we're recording, this also saw the beginning of investigation 319 00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:19,720 Speaker 4: into Senator Elisa Slotkin over her participation in a video 320 00:18:19,840 --> 00:18:23,320 Speaker 4: a few months ago encouraging US troops to disobey illegal orders. 321 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:26,920 Speaker 4: Mark Kelly, who was also in that video, was also 322 00:18:26,960 --> 00:18:30,439 Speaker 4: targeted with a Pentagon investigation over the video. So this 323 00:18:30,480 --> 00:18:33,560 Speaker 4: has become very common. However, Jerome Powell is a Trump 324 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:38,399 Speaker 4: one appointee, so this is someone who is also and 325 00:18:38,680 --> 00:18:40,879 Speaker 4: this is this is this is something that that worth mentioning. 326 00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:46,440 Speaker 4: Powell is very popular in conservative circles, largely outside of 327 00:18:47,119 --> 00:18:50,520 Speaker 4: a very very immediate circle of people around Trump who 328 00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:52,400 Speaker 4: want their president to be able to control the interest rate. 329 00:18:53,160 --> 00:18:56,080 Speaker 4: Now I'm going to do a full episode about this 330 00:18:56,240 --> 00:19:00,800 Speaker 4: probably next week, but the independence of the central bank 331 00:19:01,040 --> 00:19:04,160 Speaker 4: is one of the core pillars of the global reputation 332 00:19:04,359 --> 00:19:08,080 Speaker 4: and stability of the US dollar. Now I'm not saying 333 00:19:08,119 --> 00:19:11,440 Speaker 4: here that the central bank is good. I'm saying that 334 00:19:11,560 --> 00:19:15,160 Speaker 4: this is how the entire world economic system operates. 335 00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:15,840 Speaker 7: Right. 336 00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:19,959 Speaker 4: It is based on the central bank operating as a 337 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:23,840 Speaker 4: series of quasi public but still technically non government entities 338 00:19:24,119 --> 00:19:28,440 Speaker 4: that make independent decisions on interest rates. Now, FED interest 339 00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:31,879 Speaker 4: rates effectively and I'm saying effectively here because I'm simplifying 340 00:19:31,880 --> 00:19:35,520 Speaker 4: a very complicated set of economic interactions into one sentence, 341 00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:38,480 Speaker 4: but they effectively set interest rates for bank loans in 342 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:41,720 Speaker 4: the broader economy, which in turn has a massive impact 343 00:19:41,720 --> 00:19:44,679 Speaker 4: on how fast or slow the economy grows, and the 344 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:48,359 Speaker 4: FED uses this as a tool to control inflation and 345 00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:52,879 Speaker 4: unemployment through a basically a single macroeconomic policy lever. The 346 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:56,200 Speaker 4: FED does much much more stuff than this. I will 347 00:19:56,200 --> 00:19:58,520 Speaker 4: get into this in the other episode. It has a 348 00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:03,280 Speaker 4: series of unbelievably crucial functions. But what is happening here 349 00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:07,760 Speaker 4: is the Trump administration attempting to directly seize control of 350 00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:14,040 Speaker 4: the FED, and this is a nightmare. The actual mechanisms 351 00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:17,399 Speaker 4: that work here, in terms of the relationship between interest 352 00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:20,960 Speaker 4: rates and the fed's economic policy toolkit and inflation are 353 00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:24,840 Speaker 4: not well understood even by the FED, which is something 354 00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:27,080 Speaker 4: you can get if you go read the Federal Reserve documents. 355 00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:32,520 Speaker 4: It's very complicated, it's all contested, but it is the 356 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:34,720 Speaker 4: Fed's job to be able to do this, and they 357 00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:37,359 Speaker 4: will admit they're not incredible at it if the Trump 358 00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:41,160 Speaker 4: administration is running this directly. The Trump aministration has absolutely 359 00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:43,640 Speaker 4: no idea how any of this stuff works. Yeah, this 360 00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:45,800 Speaker 4: is giving them the keys to the global economy and 361 00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:48,359 Speaker 4: they are going to just start pushing buttons. This is 362 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:52,240 Speaker 4: a significant enough threat that several Republican senators and this 363 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:56,600 Speaker 4: is not just Morowski, these are just regular Republican senators 364 00:20:57,160 --> 00:21:01,000 Speaker 4: have spoken out against this move and have express, you know, 365 00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:04,199 Speaker 4: expressed that they think that drump Powell is innocent and 366 00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:08,240 Speaker 4: that they will vote against any attempt to approve a 367 00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:11,520 Speaker 4: Trump nominee for the head of Federal Reserve, which is 368 00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:14,480 Speaker 4: also extraordinary. This is one of the largest breaks we've 369 00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:18,000 Speaker 4: seen with Trump from the Republican Party so far. And 370 00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:20,080 Speaker 4: the reason that there have been actual breaks from the 371 00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:23,760 Speaker 4: Republican Party is that this is the rubicon for a 372 00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:29,280 Speaker 4: lot of sectors of capital. Almost anything can be endured 373 00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:33,520 Speaker 4: as long as the president does not have direct control 374 00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:36,280 Speaker 4: over the money supply, which is what Trump controlling the 375 00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:41,400 Speaker 4: Federal Reserve directly would be. Now. Part of what's going 376 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:43,520 Speaker 4: on here right is that this is an attempt to 377 00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:46,280 Speaker 4: choose a new chair of the Federal Reserve Board by 378 00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:50,240 Speaker 4: getting Powell out of his job. However, so Powell's term 379 00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:54,399 Speaker 4: expires in May, but that's Powell's term as the chair 380 00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:57,400 Speaker 4: of the Federal Reserve. He's still on the Board of Governors, 381 00:21:57,800 --> 00:21:59,760 Speaker 4: and the Board of Governors also has to approve and 382 00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:03,160 Speaker 4: you to the Federal Reserve. So Trump needs to oust 383 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:05,639 Speaker 4: him from his position as the governor of a Federal 384 00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:07,720 Speaker 4: Reserve board because if he doesn't do this, he doesn't 385 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:11,639 Speaker 4: have enough votes to get his appointments. The really dangerous 386 00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:15,719 Speaker 4: thing here, on top of the abstract principle of you know, 387 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:20,080 Speaker 4: the president having direct control over the central banking system, 388 00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:23,600 Speaker 4: the direct media threat is that because preferred candidates, who 389 00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:26,840 Speaker 4: is currently one of the Federal Reserve Board governors or 390 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:28,760 Speaker 4: one of the Federal Reserve governors she's on the board 391 00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:31,439 Speaker 4: is Stephan Mirin, who is the guy who wants to 392 00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:36,720 Speaker 4: charge other countries for holding US bonds. So yeah, I 393 00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:41,120 Speaker 4: forget that this guy is a mediac, right, Like, that's sorry, 394 00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:43,240 Speaker 4: that is that is deeply unfair to mediacs, who are 395 00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:48,080 Speaker 4: very reasonable people. This guy is I cannot emphasize enough 396 00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:51,320 Speaker 4: if you put someone in charge of the Federal Reserve 397 00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:54,880 Speaker 4: who literally did not understand what economics was, they would 398 00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:59,920 Speaker 4: do less damage than putting Steve Sevan Mirn in charge 399 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:04,280 Speaker 4: of this. This is a nightmare. This guy has no 400 00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:07,639 Speaker 4: idea what he's doing at all. He is effectively a 401 00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:10,760 Speaker 4: cipher for Trump administration. And this is one of the 402 00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:14,760 Speaker 4: positions in the entire capital system where the chair of 403 00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:16,880 Speaker 4: the Federal Reserve has to be someone who at least 404 00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:19,560 Speaker 4: sort of knows what's going on. They can be evil, 405 00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:23,280 Speaker 4: and they very often have been, but they have to 406 00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:26,439 Speaker 4: sort of know what's happening. If this guy gets put 407 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:28,320 Speaker 4: in charge of the Federal Reserve, he is going to 408 00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:32,240 Speaker 4: turn the US economy into a smoking crater. And that's 409 00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:35,159 Speaker 4: that's what's at stake here with this attempt to prosecute 410 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:38,720 Speaker 4: Jerome Powell. Powell blink three times if you need help. 411 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:46,560 Speaker 4: He is cabin s O s with his fingers. 412 00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:52,160 Speaker 2: It is a very unnerving video that he posted. 413 00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:55,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just like one of those if I disappear. 414 00:23:55,880 --> 00:24:00,280 Speaker 4: He looks really scared. Yeah, And I think this is 415 00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:03,880 Speaker 4: going to be one of the major flashpoints here because 416 00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:09,480 Speaker 4: even the tariffs don't have the potential impact for economic 417 00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:14,680 Speaker 4: disruption that handing the make countries pay money. The whole 418 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:19,679 Speaker 4: US bonds guy, the Federal Reserve Board chairman does so. 419 00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:23,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, you will see a position from Republicans because it 420 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:24,920 Speaker 3: directly impacts their bag. 421 00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:28,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, this is the most you can possibly fuck with 422 00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:30,960 Speaker 4: the money by intending to take control of the entire 423 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:33,800 Speaker 4: money supply. There's a lot of fears here too, and 424 00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:36,000 Speaker 4: it's sort of worth mentioning this. I've been seeing this 425 00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:39,000 Speaker 4: passed around a lot, is that there is another sort 426 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:42,760 Speaker 4: of recent example of a technically elected president assuming effectively 427 00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:45,600 Speaker 4: dicatorial powers, and it's Air to one and air to 428 00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:48,760 Speaker 4: one eventually took control of the central bank. And to 429 00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:51,320 Speaker 4: get a sense of how that's going, the inflation rate 430 00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:54,320 Speaker 4: in Turkey right now is currently thirty percent and everyone 431 00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:56,720 Speaker 4: is celebrating because it's below thirty one percent, and this 432 00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:58,679 Speaker 4: is the lowest the inflation rate has been in ages. 433 00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:01,040 Speaker 4: It was like seventy percent when they first started this, 434 00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:03,880 Speaker 4: and it was fifty percent last year, and they've gotten 435 00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:06,399 Speaker 4: it down to a mere thirty percent inflation rate. 436 00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:07,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, thinks King, Well. 437 00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:11,520 Speaker 4: So this is the kind of thing that's on these 438 00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:15,199 Speaker 4: people's minds because they all understand this and this is 439 00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:18,280 Speaker 4: not the Turkish central bank. Central bank is obviously important 440 00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:21,160 Speaker 4: in the world economy. This is the United States Central Bank. 441 00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:24,119 Speaker 4: This is a question of the fundamental legitimacy of the 442 00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:27,280 Speaker 4: dollar as the world reserve currency and of the premier 443 00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:30,560 Speaker 4: currency in the world economy. So we will see what 444 00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:34,119 Speaker 4: happens as this continues to unfold. But this is probably 445 00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:38,000 Speaker 4: the premier economic fight of the entire TIP administration, and 446 00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:39,960 Speaker 4: we will we will continue to update it as we 447 00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:41,760 Speaker 4: learn more about how this is going to go. 448 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:46,040 Speaker 3: So I want to talk about something that came to 449 00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:48,040 Speaker 3: my attention of the break here. 450 00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:51,679 Speaker 2: I feel like we should utilize a banking segue in 451 00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:52,320 Speaker 2: my opinion. 452 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:58,919 Speaker 3: Okay, fine, yeah, fine, fine, fine, talking of banks and 453 00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:02,880 Speaker 3: of centralizing bank power under the state, let's talk about 454 00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:06,040 Speaker 3: an organization that once began as member of the KPD. 455 00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:10,240 Speaker 3: We're going to talk about Germany, and specifically I want 456 00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:13,920 Speaker 3: to talk about an organization called Roster Hilfer. 457 00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:14,760 Speaker 4: Red Aid. 458 00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:17,920 Speaker 3: Don't really speak German, so if I've pronounced that wrong, 459 00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:21,040 Speaker 3: I hope you'll understand why we're talking about Rotter Hilfer 460 00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:24,560 Speaker 3: is that we a few months ago reported on the 461 00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:29,280 Speaker 3: State Department adding various European organizations to its FTO list 462 00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:33,280 Speaker 3: Foreign Terrorist Organization right, and we wondered what this was 463 00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:35,680 Speaker 3: about and what it would mean. We are now starting 464 00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:37,520 Speaker 3: to see a little bit of what it would mean 465 00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:42,440 Speaker 3: because Rotter Hilfer red Aid has had its bank account 466 00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:45,719 Speaker 3: closed in Germany. It had accounts with two different banks, 467 00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:50,920 Speaker 3: both of which had sort of broadly social or ecological missions, right, 468 00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:54,120 Speaker 3: they were sort of progressive banks. I guess if such 469 00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:57,359 Speaker 3: a thing can exist, because these banks are concerned with 470 00:26:57,480 --> 00:27:00,840 Speaker 3: being sanctioned and effectively locked out for the United States 471 00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:06,320 Speaker 3: Swift system for doing business with a terrorist organization. Just 472 00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:09,040 Speaker 3: to give some background on the ORG, I guess there's 473 00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:12,199 Speaker 3: not a direct lineage from the KPD to this, but 474 00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:14,600 Speaker 3: there was an organization of the same name from which 475 00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:17,800 Speaker 3: it sees itself as descended, set up by the German 476 00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:22,000 Speaker 3: Communist Party, which of course was dissolved by the Nazis. Today, 477 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:24,760 Speaker 3: what they do is they do legal aid stuff. They 478 00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:27,680 Speaker 3: appear to like send observers out to protests to kind 479 00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:31,200 Speaker 3: of document state violence that they have done some aid 480 00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:35,200 Speaker 3: for asylum seekers. It has grown massively. It's like it's 481 00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:37,800 Speaker 3: doubled and they're doubled again in the last decade in 482 00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:40,119 Speaker 3: terms of membership, right, and there have been attempts to 483 00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:44,160 Speaker 3: ban it from the domestic right in Germany. I've linked 484 00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:46,640 Speaker 3: to one of the after ones in the show notes 485 00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:51,000 Speaker 3: to people want to read it. But it being underbanked 486 00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:54,200 Speaker 3: is effectively going to be fatal for the organization, right 487 00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:56,800 Speaker 3: like it can't provide legal aid, It can't provide legal 488 00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:59,959 Speaker 3: support if it doesn't have a place to store its MND. 489 00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:01,560 Speaker 3: I mean, I guess you could just have a big 490 00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:03,919 Speaker 3: box of cash, but it's going to make it very 491 00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:06,680 Speaker 3: hard for the organization to take donations or to allocate 492 00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:09,200 Speaker 3: that the money that it has. So this is something 493 00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:12,160 Speaker 3: we might see more right certainly in Germany because Anti 494 00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:16,160 Speaker 3: for aust is the organization that was sanctioned, but potentially 495 00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:21,080 Speaker 3: also in other places talking of having no money, hear 496 00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:31,159 Speaker 3: us and advertisements that can liberate you of some of yours. 497 00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:38,400 Speaker 2: So for one of our last stories, I would like 498 00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:42,320 Speaker 2: to discuss one of the bigger news stories from the 499 00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:44,840 Speaker 2: end of the year, but something we did not have 500 00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:47,640 Speaker 2: time to discuss in our lasted of twenty twenty five, 501 00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:52,160 Speaker 2: and this is the Turtle Island Liberation Front. An episode 502 00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:55,800 Speaker 2: next week will be going into even more detail, but 503 00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:59,440 Speaker 2: I will go over some of the broad strokes of 504 00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:06,080 Speaker 2: the Turtle Island Liberation Front alleged bombing plot. On December twelfth, 505 00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:08,960 Speaker 2: the FBI arrested four people in southern California, who the 506 00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:11,960 Speaker 2: government claims are members of a left wing activist group 507 00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:15,880 Speaker 2: called the Turtle Island Liberation Front. The criminal complaint, signed 508 00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:18,120 Speaker 2: on December thirteenth by an FBI agent working at the 509 00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:20,920 Speaker 2: Joint Terrorism Task Force in La alleges that these four 510 00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:23,720 Speaker 2: individuals conspired an a bombing plot planned for New Year's 511 00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:27,920 Speaker 2: Eve twenty twenty five. According to the complaint, on November 512 00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:31,400 Speaker 2: twenty sixth, one of the alleged TILF members I'm gonna 513 00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:33,360 Speaker 2: say TILF instead of the full name from now on, 514 00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:38,520 Speaker 2: named Audrey Irene Carroll, gave an eight page hand written 515 00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:43,800 Speaker 2: document titled Operation Midnight Sun outlining the plan for the 516 00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:47,560 Speaker 2: bombing to a confidential human source who works for the 517 00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:52,000 Speaker 2: FBI as an informant. The criminal complaint says this of 518 00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:54,960 Speaker 2: the confidential human source quote, the confidential human source is 519 00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:59,000 Speaker 2: cooperating with law enforcement and is a validated and vetted source. 520 00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:02,920 Speaker 2: Theidential human source has been a reliable source information since 521 00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:08,080 Speaker 2: in or around August twenty twenty one. The confidential human 522 00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:12,600 Speaker 2: sources cooperating for financial compensation. The confidential human source does 523 00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:15,640 Speaker 2: not have any criminal history. The confidential Human source provided 524 00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:20,000 Speaker 2: past reliable reporting on other cases and has provided reliable 525 00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:21,880 Speaker 2: reporting in this case. 526 00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:22,800 Speaker 4: Unquote. 527 00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:26,920 Speaker 2: The plan was for teams of four on the ground 528 00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:32,120 Speaker 2: participants to plant backpacks containing complex pipe bombs quote unquote 529 00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:36,600 Speaker 2: or IEDs outside of buildings at five locations, targeting two 530 00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:41,480 Speaker 2: US companies, and then simultaneously detonate the bombs at midnight 531 00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:43,160 Speaker 2: on New Year's Eve twenty twenty five. 532 00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:44,640 Speaker 4: There would be an. 533 00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:47,880 Speaker 2: Off the ground member assisting the team remotely by listening 534 00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:50,959 Speaker 2: to police scanners or be stationed in a vehicle in 535 00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:55,000 Speaker 2: case a quote emergency getaway is needed quote that's quoting 536 00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:58,360 Speaker 2: from the plan, and one member of each on the 537 00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:02,640 Speaker 2: ground team would create griff of a red triangle and 538 00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:06,360 Speaker 2: one message of the team's choosing on the sidewalk closest 539 00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:09,680 Speaker 2: to the building while the other three are placing the devices. 540 00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:14,240 Speaker 2: This indictment is a really interesting look at the modern 541 00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:17,280 Speaker 2: direct action LEFT because it includes a whole bunch of 542 00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:21,720 Speaker 2: little tidbits like block and d block. It includes the 543 00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:29,080 Speaker 2: alleged co conspirators ground names like asanoch Ak, Nomad, and Kickware, 544 00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:33,720 Speaker 2: which are their ground names for this action. The criminal 545 00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:37,280 Speaker 2: complaint states that after making the initial plan, Carol and 546 00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:42,120 Speaker 2: another individual, Zachary Aaron Page, recruited additional co conspirators who 547 00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:46,200 Speaker 2: participated in further planning meetups and helped procure bomb making materials. 548 00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:50,440 Speaker 2: On December twelfth, the four defendants traveled to a remote 549 00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:53,640 Speaker 2: location in the Mohabi Desert with the alleged intent to 550 00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:57,480 Speaker 2: build and test explosive devices. FBI observed from a surveillance 551 00:31:57,520 --> 00:32:02,480 Speaker 2: plane and then arrested Carrol Paid, Dante Garfield, and Tina 552 00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:06,479 Speaker 2: Lai before they completed assembling a functional explosive device. They 553 00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:09,600 Speaker 2: have since been charged with conspiracy and possession of an 554 00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:11,760 Speaker 2: unregistered destructive device. 555 00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:15,840 Speaker 7: As I mentioned in my talking points, on December twelfth, 556 00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:20,200 Speaker 7: a group of individuals, again members of this this anti 557 00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:23,320 Speaker 7: government group, traveled out to the desert to test their 558 00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:24,600 Speaker 7: explosive devices. 559 00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:26,800 Speaker 4: They had precursor. 560 00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:29,960 Speaker 7: Chemicals there and they were going to they were going 561 00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:33,880 Speaker 7: to create these these bombs in the desert. What they 562 00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:36,719 Speaker 7: are starting to do is put their chemicals and whares 563 00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:39,920 Speaker 7: and the components out on the on the table on 564 00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:43,400 Speaker 7: the table. There this footage that you're watching is from 565 00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:47,080 Speaker 7: our surveillance plane. And then what happened after this is 566 00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:51,560 Speaker 7: the Los Angeles FBI SWAT Team, along with the FBI's 567 00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:54,960 Speaker 7: Hostage Rescue Team moved in and arrested all four subjects 568 00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:56,280 Speaker 7: without without incident. 569 00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:59,960 Speaker 2: Now, the Eternal Island Liberation Front appears to be a relict, 570 00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:03,040 Speaker 2: the new group with a social media footprint that only 571 00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:06,120 Speaker 2: was back to July twenty twenty five. The Instagram page 572 00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:10,760 Speaker 2: for their LA chapter reads quote liberation through decolonialization and 573 00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:11,959 Speaker 2: tribal sovereignty. 574 00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:12,680 Speaker 4: Quote. 575 00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:16,040 Speaker 2: Their most recent post, from December twelfth, the day of 576 00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:20,040 Speaker 2: the arrests, is promoting a quote Palestine pop up market 577 00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:23,760 Speaker 2: in Culver City. A post from November twenty eighth reads 578 00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:27,440 Speaker 2: quote if they hurt you, they hurt me too. Our 579 00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:32,120 Speaker 2: destinies are intertwined. Liberation for one must mean liberation for all. 580 00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:36,320 Speaker 2: The empire must fall, and from within the belly of 581 00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:38,960 Speaker 2: the beast, we must be the ones to dismantle it. 582 00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:43,880 Speaker 2: Revolution is the only way stop quote peaceful protesting unquote, 583 00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:47,520 Speaker 2: rise up, fight back. We are not outnumbered. They are 584 00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:53,280 Speaker 2: organized and be ready unquote yeah. The FBI source met 585 00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:56,840 Speaker 2: with two TILFH members in late November Carolin page, and 586 00:33:56,920 --> 00:34:00,760 Speaker 2: during this meeting, Carol gave the FBI source the handwritten 587 00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:05,280 Speaker 2: bombing plot and retained three to four additional copies of 588 00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:08,920 Speaker 2: this plan. And the plan identified five locations to target 589 00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:12,640 Speaker 2: as marks with more blank slots on the plan which 590 00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:17,560 Speaker 2: are captioned add more if enough comrades. According to the 591 00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:21,440 Speaker 2: criminal complaint, these targets were quote property and facilities operated 592 00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:24,120 Speaker 2: by two separate companies that are used or engaged in 593 00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:30,240 Speaker 2: activities affecting interstate and foreign commerce unquote. These are Amazon 594 00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:34,760 Speaker 2: distribution type facilities. They've not specifically confirmed they are Amazon facilities, 595 00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:37,560 Speaker 2: but they are these sorts of like global shipping facilities. 596 00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:40,600 Speaker 2: One of the things I find really interesting about this 597 00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:44,520 Speaker 2: criminal complaint is the way that this FBI agent describes 598 00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:49,040 Speaker 2: direct action tactics and the Turtle Island Liberation Front members 599 00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:53,600 Speaker 2: like security practices throughout the planning of this action. This 600 00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:55,640 Speaker 2: is quoting from the criminal complaint. 601 00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:56,200 Speaker 4: Quote. 602 00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:59,959 Speaker 2: The plan described multiple operation security measures the Coken Spirit 603 00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:02,520 Speaker 2: should take to conceal their identities, such as the use 604 00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:04,640 Speaker 2: of a burner phone that would be disposed of after 605 00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:07,560 Speaker 2: the bombings by quote submerging it in a concrete brick 606 00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:09,919 Speaker 2: after destroying the sim and then disposing of the brick 607 00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:12,680 Speaker 2: in a body of water. The target date of the operation, 608 00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:15,080 Speaker 2: New Year's Eve, was identified as an opportune time because 609 00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:17,120 Speaker 2: quote fireworks will be going off at the time, so 610 00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:19,040 Speaker 2: the explosions will be less likely to be noticed as 611 00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:23,400 Speaker 2: immediately as any normal day quote. The plan emphasized that 612 00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:29,080 Speaker 2: quote absolutely no mistakes can be made. The plans outline 613 00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:31,560 Speaker 2: the use of quote unquote black block over top a 614 00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:35,560 Speaker 2: layer of quote unquote casual gray block on top of 615 00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:39,040 Speaker 2: normal street clothes, and noted to keep hair very tightly concealed, 616 00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:41,480 Speaker 2: and to wear gloves for the purpose of avoidance of 617 00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:46,120 Speaker 2: leaving behind DNA. The plan further instructed that precipins should 618 00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:47,680 Speaker 2: leave their personal devices at home and make sure that 619 00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:50,640 Speaker 2: devices were set up to stream a long movie during 620 00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:53,320 Speaker 2: the time of the attacks, as to craft an alibi 621 00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:57,000 Speaker 2: or quote unquote plausible deniability by having it appear as 622 00:35:57,000 --> 00:36:00,759 Speaker 2: though the actor was actively using their devices. The plan 623 00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:05,080 Speaker 2: discussed pre operational surveillance of targets, identification of d block 624 00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:09,000 Speaker 2: or d clothing locations, and not leaving quote anything other 625 00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:13,839 Speaker 2: than IED's behind as they could not quote risk any 626 00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:17,000 Speaker 2: evidence tracing back to us unquote. The plan also noted 627 00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:19,400 Speaker 2: the benefit of placing a small pebble in a shoe 628 00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:24,200 Speaker 2: to alter natural gait to obfiscate their identification. Instructions on 629 00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:26,759 Speaker 2: how to purchase materials to construct a pipe bomb suggested 630 00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:30,520 Speaker 2: using cash only, purchasing only in small quantities toward suspicion, 631 00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:34,840 Speaker 2: and splitting purchases amongst a team rather than individually unquote. 632 00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:37,680 Speaker 2: This is the type of stuff I find really interesting, 633 00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:40,520 Speaker 2: is this emphasis on all of these, you know, op 634 00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:45,160 Speaker 2: sect like operational security measures, all while working with an 635 00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:48,200 Speaker 2: FBI informant from the very start of the operation and 636 00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:51,759 Speaker 2: then recruiting another one during the planning stages. During a 637 00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:55,160 Speaker 2: meeting on December seventh, three Turtle Island Liberation Front members 638 00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:58,359 Speaker 2: at least met both with the confidential human source as 639 00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:02,440 Speaker 2: well as an undercover fi BI employee while trying to 640 00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:06,479 Speaker 2: recruit more members to join this operation, both of whom 641 00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:09,719 Speaker 2: accompanied the Turtle Island Liberation Front members as they travel 642 00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:13,080 Speaker 2: to the Mohave Desert on December twelfth to allegedly build 643 00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:17,359 Speaker 2: and test out explosive devices for the direct action. There's 644 00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:19,680 Speaker 2: a lot more information in the indictment, as well as 645 00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:21,880 Speaker 2: some news that has happened since then, like an arrest 646 00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:25,640 Speaker 2: in Louisiana, also tied to Turtle Island Liberation Front, but 647 00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:30,720 Speaker 2: we will discuss those in a future episode. As of now, 648 00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:33,799 Speaker 2: three defendants in this case have pled not guilty and 649 00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:37,440 Speaker 2: the fourth is set to be arraigned on January twentieth. 650 00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:39,960 Speaker 1: Are you planning on doing that next week here? 651 00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:42,719 Speaker 2: Yes, there will be an episode next week going into 652 00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:46,759 Speaker 2: more details about this group, their politics, as well as 653 00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:52,120 Speaker 2: the FBI undercover and informant and their level of involvement 654 00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:56,040 Speaker 2: in this action, which has spurred a lot of discourse 655 00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:58,640 Speaker 2: online about this being a quote unquote like sting operation, 656 00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:01,000 Speaker 2: about this being a que unquot sigh up. 657 00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:04,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess I'll just say very briefly other the 658 00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:05,960 Speaker 3: FBI is that it's not their first time, and it's 659 00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:08,080 Speaker 3: not their last time probably doing something like this. Right, 660 00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:11,400 Speaker 3: you can look at many other cases and see FBI 661 00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:13,840 Speaker 3: sort of ci is doing this kind of thing, So 662 00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:16,239 Speaker 3: I think that context is important here. 663 00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:17,239 Speaker 4: I just want to. 664 00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:20,800 Speaker 3: Finish up with a migration update. First of all, DHS 665 00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:24,839 Speaker 3: fractured the skull of a protester and blinded him by 666 00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:27,400 Speaker 3: firing a less than lethal munition into its face. At 667 00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:29,839 Speaker 3: close range. It sounded to Anna this week of link 668 00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:31,520 Speaker 3: to an article for people who'd like to read more 669 00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:35,960 Speaker 3: of that. Secondly, Judge Boseburg, who was the judge over 670 00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:38,040 Speaker 3: seeing the case about the Alien Enemies Act, ordered the 671 00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:40,600 Speaker 3: government to provide relief to Venezuelan and sent to scot 672 00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:45,279 Speaker 3: Marco Rubio, provided a statement responding that doing so would 673 00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:49,839 Speaker 3: quote materially damage US foreign policy interests. Essentially, he's saying 674 00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:52,200 Speaker 3: the state can't comply with the order to provide redress 675 00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:54,799 Speaker 3: for wrongdoing by returning them, and it can't even give 676 00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:58,120 Speaker 3: them due process right because it has since kidnapped the 677 00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:03,280 Speaker 3: president of Venezuela. Related news, senators including Schmidt and Cruz 678 00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:08,359 Speaker 3: have called for Boseberg's impeachment. Cruz makes these allegations, they're 679 00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:12,239 Speaker 3: pretty minor, and crucially and very unusually. Both of them 680 00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:15,000 Speaker 3: have been repudiated by the Administrative Office of the United 681 00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:18,680 Speaker 3: States Courts, which doesn't normally do this kind of thing, right, 682 00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:21,759 Speaker 3: But in both cases they've written letters kind of clarifying 683 00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:26,040 Speaker 3: why Boseberg's conduct is totally normal. Both the Cruz claims 684 00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:28,879 Speaker 3: related to decisions Boseburg made with which he disagrees. One 685 00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:31,719 Speaker 3: pertains to a non disclosure order that he gave so 686 00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:35,040 Speaker 3: that Republican senators would not be notified of subpoenas of 687 00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:39,440 Speaker 3: their phone records in the fake elector investigation that was 688 00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:42,640 Speaker 3: called the Arctic Frost investigation at the time that looked 689 00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:45,440 Speaker 3: at attempts to overturn the twenty twenty United States election. 690 00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:48,640 Speaker 3: They're also trying to impeach Judge Boardman for a separate 691 00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:50,839 Speaker 3: decision in which they feel her sentence for a person 692 00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:53,719 Speaker 3: who played guilty to attending to murder Justice Covenar was 693 00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:57,080 Speaker 3: too light. And then just today, which is Wednesday of 694 00:39:57,120 --> 00:39:59,560 Speaker 3: this week as we're recording, the State Department announced on 695 00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:03,640 Speaker 3: dot com the Everything website that it is pausing visa 696 00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:07,800 Speaker 3: processing for seventy five countries quote whose migrants take welfare 697 00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:11,040 Speaker 3: from the American people at unacceptable rates. The freeze will 698 00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:13,440 Speaker 3: remain active until the US can ensure that new immigrants 699 00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:17,279 Speaker 3: will not extract wealth from the American people. It's not 700 00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:20,600 Speaker 3: clear what they are talking about. They talking about immigrant 701 00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:23,200 Speaker 3: non imigrant visas both of the above. Are they talking 702 00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:25,960 Speaker 3: about people who have violated the public charge rule or 703 00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:29,000 Speaker 3: they just feel that any access of any benefit of 704 00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:33,680 Speaker 3: state support is quote unquote extracting wealth from the American people. 705 00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:36,640 Speaker 3: If you do not know what the public charge rule is, 706 00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:39,799 Speaker 3: Luckily for you, I made a podcast about it in 707 00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:43,879 Speaker 3: November of twenty twenty four, so you can scroll all 708 00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:45,800 Speaker 3: the way back more than a year and find that. 709 00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:47,880 Speaker 3: I'll try and find it for you and include a 710 00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:50,719 Speaker 3: link in the show notes. I think what's crucial here 711 00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:55,080 Speaker 3: is that this will reduce dramatically the rate of which 712 00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:59,799 Speaker 3: migrants access government services right, which are often very beneficialist 713 00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:03,360 Speaker 3: when it comes to things like child nutrition, child welfare services. 714 00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:03,600 Speaker 8: Right. 715 00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:06,919 Speaker 3: Finally, the State Department also posted on x dot com 716 00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:10,040 Speaker 3: the Everything website that it has revoked one hundred thousand visas, 717 00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:13,600 Speaker 3: including eight thousand student visas, in the last year. We 718 00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:18,040 Speaker 3: have no way of verifying that. If you would like 719 00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:20,560 Speaker 3: to email us, you could do so. Just email cool 720 00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:23,080 Speaker 3: Zone tips at proton dot me. 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