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A little bit later on, Brian 40 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:56,520 Speaker 2: Winnhorst on a couple of NBA items, including Yannis and 41 00:01:56,800 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 2: Jannis got injured in the first quarter of the game 42 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 2: last night and then didn't come back, but they're hoping 43 00:02:03,320 --> 00:02:06,559 Speaker 2: he wants to come back to Milwaukee for the long haul. 44 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:10,120 Speaker 2: But Wendy brought this up at the start of the 45 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:14,800 Speaker 2: year that Jannis had expressed an interest in being traded 46 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:17,359 Speaker 2: to the Nick So Whndy, you'll join us. There's been 47 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:20,400 Speaker 2: a lot of talk about, you know, where Jannis is 48 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:22,960 Speaker 2: going to go. I think he turns thirty one tomorrow 49 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:26,679 Speaker 2: or the next day. But you know, when you look 50 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 2: at a franchise and you think you got it set up, 51 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:31,840 Speaker 2: you think you did it right, and you know, I 52 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 2: can give you credit for boldness, but the league is 53 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 2: too deep and too competitive to sit still and just say, oh, 54 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:42,080 Speaker 2: we got draft picks and we're going to grow aggression 55 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 2: cuts both ways. When it works, you get to hang banners. 56 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 2: When it doesn't, it's a disaster Milwaukee with the Dame 57 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:53,000 Speaker 2: Lillard big swing and miss, and that was exposure that 58 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:56,799 Speaker 2: was supposed to extend a championship window. Instead the Bucks 59 00:02:57,080 --> 00:03:01,359 Speaker 2: under five hundred. Dame Lillard's gone, and now Jannis reportedly 60 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:05,880 Speaker 2: asking out how about the Clippers. They spent years flipping 61 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 2: picks prospects, and you know they wanted to have a 62 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:15,840 Speaker 2: veteran super team. They're six and sixteen, no first round 63 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:18,480 Speaker 2: pick on the horizon, and a harsh reminder what happens 64 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:23,840 Speaker 2: when that bill finally comes due. You also have Dallas, 65 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 2: the Mavericks. They emptied future draft picks. They build around Luca, 66 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 2: then they trade Luca. They bring in an aging, injury 67 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 2: prone big man. They're eight and fifteen. You take a swing, 68 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:37,720 Speaker 2: you take a miss, and sometimes it can hurt a 69 00:03:37,720 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 2: franchise for a long long time. 70 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:42,720 Speaker 6: Yeah, Paulin twenty twenty one, the Milwaukee Bucks won the 71 00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:46,080 Speaker 6: NBA Finals Mike Budenholzer. Two years later they have a 72 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:49,120 Speaker 6: first round exit and they fire him. And it's one 73 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 6: of those situations where your expectations get heightened and you 74 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 6: get rid of the person who caused those expectations to happen. 75 00:03:57,200 --> 00:04:00,280 Speaker 2: And you have a window of opportunity here. And they 76 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 2: thought bringing in a guy who can help in the 77 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:06,240 Speaker 2: pick and roll with Yiannis with Dame Lillard, but it 78 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 2: didn't work out the way it was scripted. And now 79 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:12,040 Speaker 2: Dame is done and Jannis could be as well. But 80 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 2: this is what you don't want to do. If you're Milwaukee. 81 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:18,160 Speaker 2: You don't go, now, who could we trade him to? Okay, 82 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:20,279 Speaker 2: once you go to the Knicks, how about we bring 83 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:26,159 Speaker 2: in Karl Anthony Towns. That's not an answer that would 84 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:29,839 Speaker 2: not solve the problem here. If you're Milwaukee, then can 85 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:33,480 Speaker 2: you get X number first round picks for uh Jannis? 86 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:37,599 Speaker 2: I mean, Oklahoma City doesn't have enough roster spots for 87 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:40,120 Speaker 2: all of the draft picks they're going to have. What 88 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:43,120 Speaker 2: if you said to and OKAC can say, well, we 89 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:45,840 Speaker 2: want a title without him. Right now, we're twenty one 90 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:50,279 Speaker 2: and one. We don't need him. But if you think 91 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:54,600 Speaker 2: about it, if you're OKAYC, you got three picks in 92 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 2: the first fifteen this year, right now, what if you said, 93 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:03,000 Speaker 2: we'll give you the these three first round picks and 94 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:05,840 Speaker 2: maybe a player too, and you bring in Yannis at 95 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:10,960 Speaker 2: age thirty one. To me, that would be intriguing from 96 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:14,240 Speaker 2: Milwaukee's perspective. I don't know what OKAYC would think about this, 97 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:18,039 Speaker 2: but you bring Yannis in with that group, and you 98 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:20,080 Speaker 2: don't want to mess with chemistry as much as we 99 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:22,600 Speaker 2: like to go. Oh well, man, imagine that you put 100 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:25,760 Speaker 2: an all star on that team and you've got great 101 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:31,400 Speaker 2: chemistry obviously. But other teams that are mentioned san Antonio 102 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:34,360 Speaker 2: Spurs pairing him with. 103 00:05:34,440 --> 00:05:35,560 Speaker 5: Victor Wenden Yama. 104 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:40,480 Speaker 2: Okay, the Rockets names just another team that's come up 105 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:42,760 Speaker 2: so there's going to be a lot of teams that 106 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:45,720 Speaker 2: would be interested. The Miami Heat. They seem to come up, 107 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:48,360 Speaker 2: you know, all the time when it comes to trades, 108 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:52,080 Speaker 2: potential trades. But we'll talk to Wendy about that. That 109 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:54,720 Speaker 2: what can you get in return? Because you got to 110 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:57,240 Speaker 2: think of it two ways. It's we always think of 111 00:05:57,320 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 2: the player going to the team, and you go, yes, 112 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:02,560 Speaker 2: but what about the team who's giving up that star player. 113 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:05,800 Speaker 2: It's like Luca, you know, we celebrated man, he's going 114 00:06:05,839 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 2: to the Lakers. Good for the Lakers, And I go, okay, 115 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:12,600 Speaker 2: what's Dallas getting? And that's the bad part of the deal. 116 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:15,120 Speaker 2: If you would have said that they got a couple 117 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 2: of players you could build on and that we're younger, 118 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:21,440 Speaker 2: then you go, okay, I kind of get it. But 119 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:25,680 Speaker 2: Anthony Davis and then you have a GM goes, well, 120 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:29,559 Speaker 2: you know you win with defense. Yeah, if the guy's 121 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:32,479 Speaker 2: healthy enough to play defense, then maybe you do. But 122 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:34,560 Speaker 2: you did get to an NBA Finals with a guy 123 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:36,760 Speaker 2: who was out of shape, and now he goes to 124 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:39,760 Speaker 2: the Lakers. It's what do you get in return? That's 125 00:06:39,760 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 2: what I would want to know, you know, if I'm 126 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 2: the Knicks, and I can get Yannis. Hell Ya, you 127 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:47,560 Speaker 2: got to win a title. I mean it's been a 128 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 2: long long time since you won a title. So now 129 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:56,080 Speaker 2: you get a chance to put Brunson with Jannis. Okay, now, 130 00:06:56,480 --> 00:06:58,520 Speaker 2: I know you're going to give up, you know, players, 131 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:01,960 Speaker 2: but what I mean, you get an opportunity to get 132 00:07:01,960 --> 00:07:04,919 Speaker 2: a guy like this. And yes, it might be a 133 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:07,599 Speaker 2: window of three years or four years to win that title, 134 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:10,240 Speaker 2: but the Celtics are down this year, like now is 135 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:13,760 Speaker 2: the year to take advantage of that. With no Jason Tatum, 136 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:18,360 Speaker 2: I mean, who are you going against Detroit, Miami. Indiana 137 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:22,680 Speaker 2: doesn't have Halliburton. So take advantage of the window of opportunity, 138 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:25,080 Speaker 2: certainly in the East, to get to the NBA finals. 139 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 5: Yes, Marvin, all right. 140 00:07:27,440 --> 00:07:29,920 Speaker 3: My issue is when the Knicks get eliminated if they 141 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 3: get Giannis because they don't have enough depth. It's because 142 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:36,880 Speaker 3: you trade it Karl, Anthony Towns, Josh hart Landry Shammitt, 143 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:41,200 Speaker 3: Deuce McBride. That's how you win an NBA championship. That's 144 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 3: how the Bucks, that's how the Nuggets win an NBA championship. 145 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 3: That's how a thunder win NBA championship with depth, Joannis 146 00:07:47,080 --> 00:07:50,000 Speaker 3: and Brunson aren't gonna win an NBA title just with 147 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:51,280 Speaker 3: them and just a bunch of guys. 148 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:54,280 Speaker 2: So that's my only you think they're Do you think 149 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:56,679 Speaker 2: they're winning a title with Karl Anthony Towns and Jalen 150 00:07:56,720 --> 00:07:58,440 Speaker 2: Brunson and Landry Shammitt. 151 00:07:58,480 --> 00:08:05,160 Speaker 3: I don't think they winning title etaway short, Okay, Yeah, Paul. 152 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:06,760 Speaker 5: It's one of those things though. 153 00:08:06,760 --> 00:08:08,720 Speaker 6: When I think about Giannis, I think it was two 154 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:10,640 Speaker 6: years ago he signed a three year, one hundred and 155 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:13,160 Speaker 6: eighty six million dollar extension, and it is right after 156 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 6: they went out and got Lillard to convince him to stay. 157 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 6: It'll almost be sad if he leaves the Bucks. 158 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:19,280 Speaker 5: They had it. 159 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:22,560 Speaker 6: They had an international superstar for a long time and 160 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:24,120 Speaker 6: and they're not going to keep him the whole way. 161 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:29,120 Speaker 5: Yeah, but he gave them a title, right, I. 162 00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:31,200 Speaker 6: Guess it's more about what they could have done for 163 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:34,199 Speaker 6: the second half of his career and a series of missteps, 164 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:37,520 Speaker 6: which I don't think people criticize a Lillard acquisition at 165 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:37,880 Speaker 6: the time. 166 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 5: You look back with different view of it. 167 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:43,840 Speaker 2: Well, you know, we looked at Milwaukee and we said 168 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:47,240 Speaker 2: their best, second best player would be Chris Middleton or 169 00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:51,720 Speaker 2: Drew Holliday. At the time, with Dame Lillard, you were getting, 170 00:08:52,160 --> 00:08:55,360 Speaker 2: you know, a sniper, you were getting an elite score 171 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:56,800 Speaker 2: to take the pressure off Jannis. 172 00:08:56,880 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 5: Yeah. 173 00:08:57,559 --> 00:09:00,600 Speaker 7: Like, I don't think the Dame move was a bad idea. 174 00:09:00,760 --> 00:09:03,559 Speaker 7: It just didn't work. There's no reason that on paper 175 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:07,079 Speaker 7: it wouldn't have been perfect. It just for some reason 176 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:09,079 Speaker 7: it just didn't click. But I don't think it was 177 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:10,640 Speaker 7: a bad idea necessarily. 178 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 8: No. 179 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:13,360 Speaker 5: I thought it was a great swing. 180 00:09:13,800 --> 00:09:16,520 Speaker 2: But you know what, I'm not the GM, I'm not 181 00:09:16,559 --> 00:09:18,400 Speaker 2: part of the fan base, and I can only see 182 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:22,040 Speaker 2: it from my perspective, and I thought, okay, because I thought, 183 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:25,320 Speaker 2: you know's these teams in the East were loading up 184 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:29,400 Speaker 2: and you had to do something as well. Chris Middleton's 185 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:32,800 Speaker 2: a good player, Drew Holliday really good player. Dame gave 186 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:35,320 Speaker 2: you something a little bit more. It just didn't work out. 187 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:39,000 Speaker 2: And now Giannis is looking around going, we're not winning 188 00:09:39,040 --> 00:09:42,560 Speaker 2: anytime soon here. I may not get another opportunity to 189 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:45,560 Speaker 2: play and win. And you can tell when he plays 190 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:48,440 Speaker 2: he plays hard, he plays with passion. And I think 191 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:52,880 Speaker 2: it's hard to accept losing because at some point in 192 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 2: your career, when you play in your on losing teams. 193 00:09:56,800 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 2: You have to kind of accept that you may lose tonight. 194 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:02,079 Speaker 2: And that's hard to do because most of these guys 195 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:05,040 Speaker 2: come from programs where they don't lose. You know, I 196 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:08,199 Speaker 2: remember players from Duke would go to the NBA. They'd 197 00:10:08,200 --> 00:10:11,720 Speaker 2: lose more games in two weeks. You know, Christian Latner, 198 00:10:12,280 --> 00:10:14,319 Speaker 2: he'd lose more games in two weeks than he did 199 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:18,719 Speaker 2: in you know, his entire senior year. But I think 200 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:21,520 Speaker 2: that's the part that you have to factor in. Jannis 201 00:10:21,520 --> 00:10:25,319 Speaker 2: wants to be mentioned with Luca, with Joker, he wants 202 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:28,240 Speaker 2: to be mentioned with SGA. He wants to be and 203 00:10:28,280 --> 00:10:31,959 Speaker 2: he's not. You know, it's almost out of sight, out 204 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:36,360 Speaker 2: of mind. And he's having another great season. He puts 205 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:39,400 Speaker 2: up incredible numbers. But we've gotten to that point where 206 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:42,000 Speaker 2: we go, okay, you know, you average thirty, and you 207 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:45,360 Speaker 2: average twelve, and you average you know six, Yes, Marvin. 208 00:10:45,640 --> 00:10:47,800 Speaker 3: And now Giannis is playing for something different than being 209 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:49,840 Speaker 3: the best player in the game. He's playing for a 210 00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:52,960 Speaker 3: top ten all time spot now with his numbers, and 211 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:55,400 Speaker 3: you can't be an all timer, at least a top 212 00:10:55,440 --> 00:10:58,959 Speaker 3: ten all timer without more than one ring. So he's 213 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:00,280 Speaker 3: playing for more than just the best. 214 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:02,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, Paul, I went back. 215 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:04,280 Speaker 6: And looked it up quickly because you mentioned late in there. 216 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:07,960 Speaker 6: In four years at Duke, he lost twenty six games 217 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:10,280 Speaker 6: as a rookie with the Timberwolves. In ninety two he 218 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:11,600 Speaker 6: lost sixty three games. 219 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:17,360 Speaker 2: Stead of your day, oh thank you day bonus the 220 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:19,440 Speaker 2: day stat of the day. 221 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:23,160 Speaker 5: Jumpstad what instead of the day? 222 00:11:25,679 --> 00:11:29,280 Speaker 2: Bob Brought to you by Panini America, the official trading 223 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:32,440 Speaker 2: court to the Dan Patrick Show. NBA title odds as 224 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:39,559 Speaker 2: of this morning, it's the Thunder overwhelmingly followed by the Nuggets, Rockets, Lakers, Calves, Nicks, 225 00:11:40,120 --> 00:11:46,040 Speaker 2: and then the Pistons. You're looking at the West Thunder, Nuggets, Rockets, Lakers, 226 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:48,960 Speaker 2: four best odds to win the title. Then you have 227 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:54,640 Speaker 2: the Calves, Knicks, and Pistons. If you're Detroit and you 228 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:56,960 Speaker 2: added Giannis, I mean that's a good team. I don't 229 00:11:56,960 --> 00:11:59,199 Speaker 2: know who you have to give up, but Detroit has 230 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:02,000 Speaker 2: become a really good team and we saw them be 231 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:05,600 Speaker 2: a tough out in the playoffs last year. The Knicks, well, 232 00:12:05,679 --> 00:12:08,280 Speaker 2: you want to get clicks, talk about the Knicks and 233 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:11,400 Speaker 2: getting Yanis as well. I'm sure the Lakers are going 234 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:16,840 Speaker 2: to be interested in Janness. I saw that yesterday. I'm like, okay, 235 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 2: are you giving up Luca? 236 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:18,640 Speaker 9: Like? 237 00:12:18,679 --> 00:12:22,319 Speaker 2: Who you get Austin Reeves? And I don't know how 238 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:23,920 Speaker 2: many draft picks. I don't think they have too many 239 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:27,320 Speaker 2: draft picks here to give up. But I did see 240 00:12:27,320 --> 00:12:29,760 Speaker 2: that there was also and I don't know if it's 241 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:33,880 Speaker 2: true or not, but was Golden State interested in Well, 242 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:36,720 Speaker 2: I'm sure they were in Yannis last year because I 243 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:40,520 Speaker 2: had heard that from somebody affiliated with Golden State and 244 00:12:40,559 --> 00:12:43,120 Speaker 2: they even said, hey, we're trying to kick the tires 245 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:47,080 Speaker 2: on Yannis. But once again, Wendy had the story and 246 00:12:47,120 --> 00:12:51,280 Speaker 2: he said the Knicks that was the place that he 247 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:53,520 Speaker 2: thought Janis was gonna want to go if he was 248 00:12:53,559 --> 00:12:56,200 Speaker 2: able to be traded. All right, that'll be coming up 249 00:12:56,760 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 2: poll question today. Did I already ask that Seaton? 250 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:00,640 Speaker 5: You have not? You have not? 251 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:03,440 Speaker 7: We have many many options. You know where you can 252 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:07,240 Speaker 7: find them after the break, after the break. 253 00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:11,400 Speaker 2: Okay, all right, all right, let me see still working 254 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:14,719 Speaker 2: on this cough here, So bear with me if I 255 00:13:14,760 --> 00:13:17,240 Speaker 2: have some silence here a little bit. 256 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:22,280 Speaker 5: But you know it's Todd said, you're unbelievable. Just dramatic pause, 257 00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:32,960 Speaker 5: dramatic cough held it Now. Nothing gets attention like silent. 258 00:13:33,559 --> 00:13:36,400 Speaker 2: Oh, I know when the best part of the show 259 00:13:36,440 --> 00:13:41,679 Speaker 2: is silence. It says a lot, right Toddler okay eight 260 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:46,680 Speaker 2: seven seven eight seven seven three DP show email address. 261 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:50,679 Speaker 2: I got this this medicine ball from Starbucks. It's just 262 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:54,360 Speaker 2: a bunch of tea and some honey and something something. 263 00:13:55,040 --> 00:13:57,640 Speaker 2: I don't know if it helps, but it certainly tastes good. 264 00:13:57,720 --> 00:13:57,880 Speaker 5: Yeah. 265 00:13:57,920 --> 00:14:00,600 Speaker 7: See you ever when you're sick on the old and milk. 266 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:06,880 Speaker 5: No, it's great. It's like the best in milk. No, 267 00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:07,760 Speaker 5: it's uh. 268 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:12,199 Speaker 7: It's like a turmeric and I forget what else is 269 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:14,520 Speaker 7: in there, but you like heat it up and drink it. 270 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:16,400 Speaker 5: Yeah, it helps a lot. 271 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:20,640 Speaker 6: It's turmeric latte, turmeric and other warming spices. It's an 272 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:21,360 Speaker 6: Indian beverage. 273 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:23,600 Speaker 5: It's really really good. It's really good. 274 00:14:24,880 --> 00:14:26,760 Speaker 4: Yes, I think I gotta get one of those holiday 275 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:29,080 Speaker 4: cake pops. You know they have like frosty and raindyeror 276 00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:31,239 Speaker 4: and stuff like that. There's cute cake pops and Starbucks. 277 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:31,800 Speaker 10: Get that on the side. 278 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:32,560 Speaker 4: I'll make you feel better. 279 00:14:33,200 --> 00:14:34,760 Speaker 5: How do you think you're doing so? I'm not doing 280 00:14:34,760 --> 00:14:37,920 Speaker 5: that great, But there's a lot of time left. There's 281 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:40,120 Speaker 5: a lot of time after that could be good and bad. 282 00:14:40,680 --> 00:14:43,320 Speaker 5: I'm gonna jump in during those pauses and kill it. 283 00:14:44,680 --> 00:14:47,080 Speaker 5: Oh so when you sense there's a pause, I'm ready 284 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:47,440 Speaker 5: to call it. 285 00:14:47,480 --> 00:14:49,920 Speaker 4: I'm just gonna say something, even if it's not worth anything. 286 00:14:51,200 --> 00:14:54,000 Speaker 5: You'll come to the rescue. Well, great, we're all in 287 00:14:54,080 --> 00:14:54,720 Speaker 5: great hands. 288 00:14:54,880 --> 00:14:57,880 Speaker 2: Okay, we're gonna take a break because after the break, 289 00:14:58,040 --> 00:15:02,240 Speaker 2: we're gonna find out our poll question. Today National Signing Day, 290 00:15:02,360 --> 00:15:04,600 Speaker 2: we'll talk about who did and who didn't in Penn 291 00:15:04,680 --> 00:15:07,640 Speaker 2: State is still looking for a head coach? Are they 292 00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:13,479 Speaker 2: swinging for the fences? Because man, I've exhausted my sources 293 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:16,400 Speaker 2: with this, like what is going on? And both of 294 00:15:16,440 --> 00:15:20,000 Speaker 2: them yesterday said we don't know, and I don't know 295 00:15:20,040 --> 00:15:22,840 Speaker 2: if they know. But if you're gonna promote, you can't 296 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:25,400 Speaker 2: fire James Franklin and then say we're going to promote 297 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:29,040 Speaker 2: from within, and you know, without doing that initially to 298 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:31,760 Speaker 2: say no, we have our guy, We've we've already had him. 299 00:15:32,200 --> 00:15:35,960 Speaker 2: They've had some people who have decided to take other jobs. 300 00:15:36,040 --> 00:15:39,160 Speaker 2: Yesked Paulic refreshingly. The Louisville head coach Jeff Brohm, who 301 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:45,720 Speaker 2: was a hot prospect. He's staying at Louisville. Yeah, that's refreshing. Yeah, 302 00:15:45,840 --> 00:15:50,040 Speaker 2: we've seen some coaches who have stayed Dandy, Missouri Louisville, 303 00:15:51,360 --> 00:15:57,400 Speaker 2: so not everybody goes. And I think I think the 304 00:15:57,440 --> 00:16:01,360 Speaker 2: Mississippi Police Department is pushing back on Lane Kiffin saying 305 00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:03,400 Speaker 2: somebody tried to run him off the road when he 306 00:16:03,480 --> 00:16:06,520 Speaker 2: was going to the airport to fly to Baton Rouge. 307 00:16:08,120 --> 00:16:10,440 Speaker 2: And then I love that Eli Manning put out a 308 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:15,760 Speaker 2: tweet and he just said, oops, as if he was 309 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:18,240 Speaker 2: the guy who was trying to run Lane Kiffin off 310 00:16:18,280 --> 00:16:21,720 Speaker 2: the road. Uh, Lane, just go to LSU. 311 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:22,560 Speaker 5: Just go. 312 00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:25,800 Speaker 4: Time before we applaud all the coaches that stayed, do 313 00:16:25,840 --> 00:16:27,560 Speaker 4: we know the whole story is to what they will 314 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:30,080 Speaker 4: offering and what schools were involved, as opposed to I 315 00:16:30,080 --> 00:16:32,160 Speaker 4: think I should just stay here because I want to 316 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:33,680 Speaker 4: live forever here at this time. 317 00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:36,520 Speaker 5: Stile, I'm gonna guess Vandy, Missouri Louisville. 318 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:40,200 Speaker 2: Yes, they had opportunities to go elsewhere, those coaches, I'm 319 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:44,080 Speaker 2: gonna guess they did. Yes, let's take a break. 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Check us out 334 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:26,720 Speaker 9: on YouTube and subscribe. 335 00:17:28,040 --> 00:17:29,800 Speaker 2: We will come up with a pole question here for 336 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:33,399 Speaker 2: the first hour of the program. I saw this on 337 00:17:33,480 --> 00:17:39,360 Speaker 2: three Sports had an estimate of what James Franklin's firing 338 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:43,399 Speaker 2: and the vacancy the opening at Penn State cost college 339 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:49,000 Speaker 2: football Okay Indiana head coach Kurt Signetti, Matt Ruhle at 340 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:53,640 Speaker 2: Nebraska they were up maybe early October for the Penn 341 00:17:53,720 --> 00:17:57,159 Speaker 2: State job. They signed contract extensions at the end of 342 00:17:57,200 --> 00:18:00,760 Speaker 2: the season. A and M gave Mike Elko contract extension. 343 00:18:00,840 --> 00:18:05,080 Speaker 2: Missouri did the same to Eli Drinkwitz. Clark Lee a 344 00:18:05,160 --> 00:18:09,640 Speaker 2: new deal at Vanderbilt, Brent Key contract extension at Georgia Tech, 345 00:18:10,119 --> 00:18:14,160 Speaker 2: and according to On three Sports, all of those contract 346 00:18:14,200 --> 00:18:17,920 Speaker 2: extensions totaled more than three hundred and seventy million dollars. 347 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:22,800 Speaker 2: Thank you, Penn State. All these coaches, that's where they 348 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:25,240 Speaker 2: don't want to take the job, but they want to 349 00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:28,919 Speaker 2: at least give the indication that, well, you know, I could, 350 00:18:29,600 --> 00:18:32,920 Speaker 2: and then they quickly you know, extend their head coaches. 351 00:18:33,560 --> 00:18:35,880 Speaker 5: All right, what's poll question here? Seating for the first 352 00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:37,160 Speaker 5: hour of the program. 353 00:18:37,359 --> 00:18:41,399 Speaker 7: If you were a top high school athlete, well a 354 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:44,919 Speaker 7: football player, your college decision would be based mostly on 355 00:18:45,320 --> 00:18:47,280 Speaker 7: the head coach, your chance to make it to the NFL, 356 00:18:47,320 --> 00:18:52,520 Speaker 7: your chance to win, or the nil deal. Yeah, I 357 00:18:52,560 --> 00:18:55,680 Speaker 7: gotta admit I think it'd be kind of all of them. Yeah, 358 00:18:55,760 --> 00:18:57,919 Speaker 7: I mean, I know you can only pick one, hence 359 00:18:58,080 --> 00:19:02,560 Speaker 7: the pole question. I feel like it's kind of a 360 00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:05,679 Speaker 7: combination of them, all right, Like, if you go to 361 00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:07,600 Speaker 7: the right head coach, he's going to give you a 362 00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:10,040 Speaker 7: better chance to win and make it to the NFL. 363 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:13,480 Speaker 5: But that might the nil deal might not. 364 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:17,840 Speaker 7: Be the best, or I could be even better. 365 00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:22,560 Speaker 2: I think you go play for the coach because you 366 00:19:22,600 --> 00:19:26,440 Speaker 2: want to know what style you play, especially if I'm 367 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:28,919 Speaker 2: an offensive player, I want to know what kind of 368 00:19:28,920 --> 00:19:32,440 Speaker 2: offense that he runs. If he's a defensive minded guy 369 00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:36,040 Speaker 2: and I'm a defensive player, great, I think it's all 370 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:39,080 Speaker 2: about I get to play. I want to try to 371 00:19:39,119 --> 00:19:42,359 Speaker 2: play in the NFL. You hope that there's an nil 372 00:19:42,560 --> 00:19:46,880 Speaker 2: pocketbook waiting for you there, so I would I would 373 00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:49,159 Speaker 2: say the coach, I would want to go play for 374 00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:49,920 Speaker 2: that guy. 375 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:52,080 Speaker 5: Yes, Todd, I think that sounds good. 376 00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:54,119 Speaker 4: But when a seventeen or eighteen year old kid sees 377 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:56,560 Speaker 4: major dollar signs and they're like, you know, I'm going 378 00:19:56,600 --> 00:19:58,960 Speaker 4: to take this big money. Maybe my family needs the money. 379 00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:01,000 Speaker 4: We don't know what their financial situation is. And then 380 00:20:01,040 --> 00:20:02,840 Speaker 4: I'll prove myself at whatever that school is, even if 381 00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:05,040 Speaker 4: it wasn't my first or even tenth choice of where 382 00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:06,800 Speaker 4: I wanted to play, And then as far as the 383 00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:09,080 Speaker 4: NFL things like that, that'll play itself out based on 384 00:20:09,119 --> 00:20:10,040 Speaker 4: my ability hopefully. 385 00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:13,840 Speaker 2: Well, I think that's very narrow minded, and that's why 386 00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:17,040 Speaker 2: hopefully you have some kind of parental guidance there that 387 00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:19,440 Speaker 2: can help you. Don't think about what it is right 388 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:22,480 Speaker 2: now in front of you. You can get your money. 389 00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:24,600 Speaker 2: You don't want to go to your tenth school because 390 00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:26,040 Speaker 2: they're going to pay you more, and it's not the 391 00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:30,439 Speaker 2: right school because then you're gonna end up transferring. I 392 00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:32,879 Speaker 2: think you got to go where you like the situation, 393 00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:36,119 Speaker 2: you like the coach, you like the competition and the 394 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:39,000 Speaker 2: ability to be able to play in the NFL. You're 395 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:42,120 Speaker 2: gonna not everybody who's going to be a millionaire. And 396 00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:45,359 Speaker 2: you know, if you're a good football player, if you 397 00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:49,000 Speaker 2: get NIL, great, maybe you prove yourself there and then 398 00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:51,960 Speaker 2: you transfer and you get more NIL money. But I 399 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:55,399 Speaker 2: would say you go to play for that coach. Yes, Pauline, I. 400 00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:57,480 Speaker 6: Think twenty years ago, I would have only gone to 401 00:20:57,520 --> 00:21:00,479 Speaker 6: a heavyweight school. But like that that drop back passer 402 00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:03,760 Speaker 6: from Tennessee who chose to pass on Georgia to go 403 00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:06,440 Speaker 6: to Vanderbilt, you can go to the pros from Vanderbilt. 404 00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:08,840 Speaker 6: These days, the playing fields even out a little bit. 405 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:11,720 Speaker 6: Fernanda Mendoza could be a top five pick from Indiana. 406 00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:13,520 Speaker 5: So twenty years. 407 00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:16,400 Speaker 6: Ago, I'm going to Georgia, Ohio State USC if I'm 408 00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:18,639 Speaker 6: a top quarterback and I'm not really flirting with second 409 00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:19,639 Speaker 6: tier schools no offense. 410 00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:23,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, but we've seen these second tier schools. They're going 411 00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:26,360 Speaker 2: to be getting into the playoffs. If we expand to sixteen, 412 00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:29,240 Speaker 2: then you're gonna have more teams playing playoff games as well. 413 00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:34,280 Speaker 2: Look at SMU, Indiana out of Nowhere, Arizona State. You 414 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:38,400 Speaker 2: got schools this year, Boise State last year. So I 415 00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:41,280 Speaker 2: think you can go to the major schools. But then 416 00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:43,400 Speaker 2: if you're looking at the major schools you might go. 417 00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:47,480 Speaker 2: Is Penn State to major school Are they trending more 418 00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:50,720 Speaker 2: towards being Nebraska than they are Michigan or Ohio State 419 00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:51,400 Speaker 2: or Indiana? 420 00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:53,760 Speaker 5: Yeh see, Yeah. 421 00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:55,439 Speaker 7: I guess that's one of the funny things about NIL 422 00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:58,760 Speaker 7: is that now there's more of an emphasis on going 423 00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:01,399 Speaker 7: to a place where you could play, Whereas before the 424 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:03,280 Speaker 7: best thing you could do is sit for two years 425 00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:05,400 Speaker 7: behind all of these other superstars that you know are 426 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:07,840 Speaker 7: going to the NFL, and then it'll be your turn. 427 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:10,000 Speaker 7: Now you can Well, I could get a couple bucks 428 00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:12,000 Speaker 7: in my pocket and go play right now, and that's 429 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:13,720 Speaker 7: gonna actually give me a better chance to get to 430 00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:14,399 Speaker 7: the next level. 431 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:20,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, that'd be great, you know what, Yeah, because you 432 00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:24,720 Speaker 2: want to play. I think that's probably the overriding factor 433 00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:26,080 Speaker 2: it would be for me. Do I want to go 434 00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:29,679 Speaker 2: and sit I get paid, I'm gonna sit You know this, 435 00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:32,720 Speaker 2: This is what Nebraska and Oklahoma, Ohio State, Michigan used 436 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:35,879 Speaker 2: to do back in the seventies, a USC. They just 437 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:39,639 Speaker 2: stockpiled talent of the U where you go, Wait a minute, 438 00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:45,119 Speaker 2: that guy's the backup to the backup running back. Yeah, 439 00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:50,080 Speaker 2: John and Illinois, Good morning, John. Went's on your mind today? 440 00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:50,400 Speaker 8: Yeah? 441 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:52,760 Speaker 11: Hey, DP, how's it going. I've got a question I 442 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:56,000 Speaker 11: was noticing yesterday, and it seems like to me that 443 00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:59,199 Speaker 11: maybe Penn States is in a little bit of trouble 444 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:02,720 Speaker 11: because Jimmy Sexton is kind of owning college football right 445 00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:05,760 Speaker 11: now with the fact that you know his agents James 446 00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:09,720 Speaker 11: Franklin and or James Franklin is his agent, and now 447 00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:14,639 Speaker 11: basically he's in a position where they he's controlling all 448 00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:17,439 Speaker 11: the coaches now and saying, hey, you know, just because 449 00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:19,200 Speaker 11: you fired my guy, my guys aren't gonna go there 450 00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:21,240 Speaker 11: coach for your job. They're not gonna go play, They're 451 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:22,960 Speaker 11: not gonna go coach in state because you treated James 452 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:25,399 Speaker 11: Franklin Portland stuff. And I was just curious kind of 453 00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:28,320 Speaker 11: your guys' thoughts is is he kind of becoming this 454 00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:31,200 Speaker 11: agent zar or college football and owning all these coaches 455 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:33,560 Speaker 11: and all these programs and saying, you know, saying, yep, 456 00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:35,920 Speaker 11: if you treat my coach poorly, you're not gonna go 457 00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:37,560 Speaker 11: coach it. I'm not gonna let him go coach anymore 458 00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:39,480 Speaker 11: because you fired him in the middle season for no reason. 459 00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:41,080 Speaker 5: And now yeah, I sound that. 460 00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:44,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, I saw that story yesterday. Yeah, make no mistake 461 00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:47,880 Speaker 2: about it. Jimmy Sexton is controlling college football with all 462 00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:51,200 Speaker 2: the coaches that he represents, And hey, you did James 463 00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:54,639 Speaker 2: Franklin dirty. I'm not gonna send one of my clients there. 464 00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:57,240 Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know if you use one client 465 00:23:57,320 --> 00:23:59,720 Speaker 2: and how he was treated and not give one of 466 00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:02,399 Speaker 2: your clients and opportunity to be able to coach at 467 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:07,400 Speaker 2: Penn State. Still great resources there, great environment there for football, 468 00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:11,280 Speaker 2: but I think they overplayed their hand. You get rid 469 00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:14,399 Speaker 2: of James Franklin, Okay. And I always say, if you 470 00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:16,600 Speaker 2: get rid of Mike Tomlin in Pittsburgh, who you bring 471 00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:20,840 Speaker 2: it in? And you know, now, all of a sudden, 472 00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:25,080 Speaker 2: you know Ben Roethlisberger is connecting Mike Tomlin with Penn State. 473 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:31,080 Speaker 12: Here is Ben Roethlisberger. No, It's been talked about around 474 00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:33,040 Speaker 12: here a lot. Maybe it's time. Maybe it's a clean 475 00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:35,879 Speaker 12: house time. Maybe it is. Maybe it's time. And I 476 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:37,919 Speaker 12: like coach Tomlin. I have a lot of respect coach Tomlin. 477 00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:42,000 Speaker 12: But maybe it's best for him too. Maybe a fresh 478 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:45,240 Speaker 12: start for him is what's best, whether that's in the pros, whether. 479 00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:47,159 Speaker 5: Maybe go be Penn State's head coach. You know what 480 00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:48,800 Speaker 5: he would do at Penn State. He'll probably go win 481 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:53,560 Speaker 5: national championships. Okay, Ben, that's football. 482 00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:56,560 Speaker 2: In with Ben Roethlisberger, It's one thing to think that, 483 00:24:57,480 --> 00:24:59,760 Speaker 2: it's another thing to say it. And the fact that 484 00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:02,199 Speaker 2: he's said it now all of a sudden, it just 485 00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:05,640 Speaker 2: gathered momentum yesterday and now we start to look at scenarios. Wow, 486 00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:09,240 Speaker 2: what's he gonna do? Okay, we haven't heard anything from 487 00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:12,240 Speaker 2: the Steelers. Tomlin said, Hey, I get why they're gonna 488 00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:15,119 Speaker 2: boo me. You know, there's a certain standard here. But 489 00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:19,960 Speaker 2: Ben talked about Mike Tomlin is a great recruiter. When 490 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:25,480 Speaker 2: does he recruit. He doesn't recruit at Pittsburgh. Do you 491 00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:27,960 Speaker 2: want to do that? Do you want to be in 492 00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:33,960 Speaker 2: a eighteen year old's living room? Around the country, I mean, 493 00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:40,360 Speaker 2: pro football has it, it is scheduled. Brilliantly, college football 494 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:44,680 Speaker 2: combines everything. How about nil and portal and coaches leaving 495 00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:46,159 Speaker 2: in the playoffs, and we're going to do that in 496 00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:53,439 Speaker 2: a month. Silly NFL has it all blockdown time for 497 00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:55,800 Speaker 2: this time, for this time, for this time, for this 498 00:25:56,400 --> 00:26:02,359 Speaker 2: it's all scheduled. Tomlin, No, I don't want to coach 499 00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:07,880 Speaker 2: college football. I'm going to take you back to Oh boy, 500 00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:11,080 Speaker 2: was this was not a great day. Even though I 501 00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:13,119 Speaker 2: had a great source on this and it was true. 502 00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:18,360 Speaker 2: Mike Tomlin was talking about the USC rumors I had 503 00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:22,719 Speaker 2: mentioned before Lincoln riling they had a wish list and 504 00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:26,320 Speaker 2: I said, Mike Tomlin, you know, didn't put himself on 505 00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:29,560 Speaker 2: the list. They're thinking, hey, let's swing for the fences. 506 00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:32,280 Speaker 2: And I was told Mike Tomlin's name was on their 507 00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:36,840 Speaker 2: wish list. Now they probably had fifteen names. Carson Palmer, 508 00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:41,320 Speaker 2: USC quarterback, NFL quarterback, he came on the show and 509 00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:44,920 Speaker 2: he talked about Mike Tomlin being mentioned as a possibility 510 00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:48,760 Speaker 2: for USC. That's October of twenty twenty one, and here 511 00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:49,679 Speaker 2: is Mike Tomlin. 512 00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:54,360 Speaker 13: Hey, guys, I don't have time for that speculation. I mean, 513 00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:56,600 Speaker 13: that's a joke to me. I got one of the 514 00:26:56,680 --> 00:27:00,640 Speaker 13: best jobs in all of professional sport. To have any 515 00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:03,880 Speaker 13: interest in coaching college football, That'll be the last time 516 00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:05,320 Speaker 13: to address it, and not. 517 00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:09,040 Speaker 5: Only today, but moving forward. Never say never, but never. 518 00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:13,240 Speaker 13: Okay, anybody else got any questions about any college jobs? 519 00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:15,560 Speaker 13: Is not a booster with a big enough blank check. 520 00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:16,199 Speaker 5: Thank you. 521 00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:19,800 Speaker 13: Anybody asking Sean Payton about that, anybody asking Andy Reid 522 00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:20,720 Speaker 13: about stuff like that. 523 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:23,880 Speaker 5: Okay. 524 00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:28,280 Speaker 2: It wasn't presented to Mike Tomlin the way it should 525 00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:31,439 Speaker 2: have been. It should have been, Hey, they have a 526 00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:33,120 Speaker 2: wish list, your name is on it. 527 00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:33,800 Speaker 5: That's all. 528 00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:38,439 Speaker 2: But Carson Palmer, who is connected to USC, had the 529 00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:41,600 Speaker 2: information that I had, and he brought it up, and 530 00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:44,560 Speaker 2: then all of a sudden there's momentum there. But at 531 00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:47,480 Speaker 2: no point that I say Mike Tomlin was interested in USC, 532 00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:50,360 Speaker 2: and I'm not going to bring up that he's interested 533 00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:53,480 Speaker 2: in Penn State. I'm sure Penn State would be interested 534 00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:56,800 Speaker 2: in him. But if I'm Mike Tomlin, I don't want 535 00:27:56,840 --> 00:28:02,480 Speaker 2: to go coach in college athletics is running you know, 536 00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:06,600 Speaker 2: big names out of the sport basketball, football, I don't 537 00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:07,520 Speaker 2: want to deal with this. 538 00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:10,000 Speaker 5: I mean, the NFL. 539 00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:13,960 Speaker 2: Has his salary cap, there's free agency period, there's gonna 540 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:18,000 Speaker 2: be the draft, there's gonna be Spring, there's gonna be fall. 541 00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:19,280 Speaker 5: I mean, all you do is. 542 00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:21,560 Speaker 2: Go out there and you coach. All right, that's it. 543 00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:24,399 Speaker 2: You draft some players, you get your coaching staff, and 544 00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:31,760 Speaker 2: then you go coach. Now, it's difficult. But and also 545 00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:35,200 Speaker 2: if he went fifteen years, let's say he went was 546 00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:39,160 Speaker 2: it twenty sixteen? If he went nine years without making 547 00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:42,720 Speaker 2: the college football playoffs, then he's probably not keeping his 548 00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:49,280 Speaker 2: job in college because they want it right now. They're 549 00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:51,680 Speaker 2: gonna be paying a lot of money and that so 550 00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:54,600 Speaker 2: the pressure would be, you've got to do something in 551 00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:57,720 Speaker 2: three years, coach, because you don't get this. Hey, we 552 00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:02,280 Speaker 2: don't fire people you're Mike Tomlin until we find somebody 553 00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:04,239 Speaker 2: who could be maybe a better fit for us. 554 00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:05,400 Speaker 5: Yeah, Pauline, it. 555 00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:07,680 Speaker 6: Feels like this is obvious. But Mike Tomlin's the kind 556 00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:09,800 Speaker 6: of guy, like you said yesterday, which would have a 557 00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:11,959 Speaker 6: number of offers if he were no longer to the Steelers 558 00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:15,400 Speaker 6: coach Bill Belichick didn't have offers. North Carolina was the 559 00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:18,120 Speaker 6: fallback plan he'd be. He would definitely have been in 560 00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:20,280 Speaker 6: the Atlanta Falcons coach or something like that if that 561 00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:21,080 Speaker 6: were an option for. 562 00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:25,400 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, he didn't want to go to college. He 563 00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:28,960 Speaker 2: was hoping he got the Atlanta job because you don't 564 00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:30,400 Speaker 2: want He didn't want to mess. 565 00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:31,000 Speaker 5: With all of the stuff. 566 00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:34,760 Speaker 2: By the way, North Carolina did okay on National Signing Day, 567 00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:39,800 Speaker 2: And once again, this is potential and that's why I 568 00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:43,240 Speaker 2: would always take transfers because I know that they've done something. 569 00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:46,640 Speaker 2: These kids are seventeen eighteen years of age and you're 570 00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:50,400 Speaker 2: going on potential that that's a five star recruit. And 571 00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:56,040 Speaker 2: North Carolina did okay, USC did great. Penn State struggled, 572 00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:58,880 Speaker 2: as you might expect, without a head coach. That comes 573 00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:01,440 Speaker 2: back to me as a player, who's my head coach? 574 00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:04,959 Speaker 2: Why would I go to a school that can't come 575 00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:07,479 Speaker 2: up with a head coach? And how long has it been? 576 00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:10,520 Speaker 2: Did Chris Fowler say fifty three days since they fired 577 00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:15,160 Speaker 2: James Franklin? Did you have a plan in place other 578 00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:21,600 Speaker 2: than the plan to fire him? Let's see raw in Maryland? Hey, Rob, 579 00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:22,680 Speaker 2: what's on your mind today? 580 00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:26,960 Speaker 14: Hey what's going on? Dan? First time in a long time, bro, 581 00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:31,920 Speaker 14: But I had a pull question for you guys, would 582 00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:36,040 Speaker 14: who would you rather continue the season without your best 583 00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:41,560 Speaker 14: player or your head coach. And you know, like like 584 00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:44,800 Speaker 14: the lank of the situation. I don't knock nine. 585 00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:48,280 Speaker 15: I wouldn't knock anybody for going on to a better job, 586 00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:52,520 Speaker 15: but for the simple fact that in every sport something 587 00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:55,200 Speaker 15: like that should be handled after the season. 588 00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:59,200 Speaker 2: So but well, there's only one position. If you say 589 00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:01,479 Speaker 2: I don't have my quarterback. If you said I can 590 00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:05,440 Speaker 2: have Patrick Mahomes or Andy Reid, I'm going to take 591 00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:11,480 Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes just about any situation. Now, I'm going to 592 00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:17,080 Speaker 2: take my quarterback over my head coach. Now in college, 593 00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:19,800 Speaker 2: it might be a little bit different there that I 594 00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:24,120 Speaker 2: would probably lean towards the head coach more people that 595 00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:27,160 Speaker 2: you're probably having an influence on or you need to. 596 00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:30,920 Speaker 2: You probably coach more when you're in college than you 597 00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:32,960 Speaker 2: do in the NFL as a head coach. 598 00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:35,920 Speaker 6: Yeah, Pauling, that'd be a tough one for college. Like 599 00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:40,000 Speaker 6: Kurt Signetti or Mendoza, the quarterback in Indiana, that's that's 600 00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:42,160 Speaker 6: a coin flip. But Mendoza is the guy I don't 601 00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:43,280 Speaker 6: think you could win without. 602 00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:47,040 Speaker 2: So you would you would go into battle without your 603 00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:48,880 Speaker 2: head coach instead of your quarter. 604 00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:51,680 Speaker 6: Let's say Kurt Signetti had some type of situation for 605 00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:52,400 Speaker 6: the next six weeks. 606 00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:53,040 Speaker 5: He's on availed. 607 00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:55,400 Speaker 2: Let's say he went to Penn State. Yeah, let's say 608 00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:56,240 Speaker 2: he took to Penn State. 609 00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:58,520 Speaker 6: I think the rest of his coaching staff could stick 610 00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:01,479 Speaker 6: with his program and what they've done so far and 611 00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:02,760 Speaker 6: get you to the promised Land. 612 00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:06,960 Speaker 2: You think they stick that. Those coaching staffs that, like 613 00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:10,760 Speaker 2: Lane's taken coaches from ls are old missed l s U. 614 00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:13,640 Speaker 6: I think if Mendoz is out, you're out. 615 00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:18,720 Speaker 5: These guys take their coaching staffs with them. Yes, Marvin 616 00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:21,080 Speaker 5: in college, I think it depends on the school. 617 00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:24,320 Speaker 3: Remember Ohio State Cardale Jones was the third string quarterback 618 00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:26,680 Speaker 3: and he took them to the National Championship Game. At 619 00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:30,360 Speaker 3: schools like Georgia and Alabama, you have three five star 620 00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:33,560 Speaker 3: quarterbacks that are all ready to play. So I think 621 00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:35,440 Speaker 3: that's the difference between those schools. 622 00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:37,880 Speaker 5: Yeah, that's a great point. All right, we'll take a break. 623 00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:38,880 Speaker 5: Play the day up next. 624 00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:42,120 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 625 00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:45,520 Speaker 1: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio 626 00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:49,760 Speaker 1: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to 627 00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:50,520 Speaker 1: listen live. 628 00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:52,360 Speaker 6: Oh my God. 629 00:32:54,200 --> 00:33:02,040 Speaker 2: Of the day of the day. Check this out Yoka, 630 00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:04,400 Speaker 2: chazz it up the left sideline, hands off behind him, 631 00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:05,480 Speaker 2: over to Jamal Murray. 632 00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:10,280 Speaker 5: Murray has them for three. 633 00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:12,200 Speaker 1: That's a picnic piece for. 634 00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:14,320 Speaker 5: Jamal Murray and Indiana. 635 00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:17,960 Speaker 1: I'm a fleet of one twenty eight to one twelve. 636 00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:23,400 Speaker 2: That's courtesy of Altitude Radio Network. Jamal Murray finished with 637 00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:26,960 Speaker 2: fifty two. He went nineteen to twenty five, including ten 638 00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:30,280 Speaker 2: of eleven from three point range. That's your play of 639 00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:31,760 Speaker 2: the day. Play of the Day brought to you by 640 00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:35,040 Speaker 2: jay Lab. The perfect gift for this holiday season. They've 641 00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:38,320 Speaker 2: got everything you need. The jay Buds party speaker. You 642 00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:41,320 Speaker 2: can give the gift of silence the Jbuds lucks over 643 00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:45,520 Speaker 2: ear headphones active noise canceling. Go to JLab dot com 644 00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:48,680 Speaker 2: promo code DAN twenty get twenty percent off. Find them 645 00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:50,960 Speaker 2: on Amazon or look for the blue box at a 646 00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:55,960 Speaker 2: retailer near you. That's JLab dot com. National Signing Day 647 00:33:56,520 --> 00:34:01,160 Speaker 2: USC number one. They had thirty five commits Oregon second, 648 00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:05,560 Speaker 2: they had twenty one, Ohio state twenty seven, Michigan twenty seven, 649 00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:11,560 Speaker 2: Washington twenty four, Illinois had thirty, Iowa had eighteen, Minnesota 650 00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:15,359 Speaker 2: had thirty one. And let's see who else is on 651 00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:21,320 Speaker 2: the list. Maryland and Rutgers had seventeen twenty one, Michigan 652 00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:25,600 Speaker 2: State nineteen, Purdue twenty one, Northwestern twenty one, Wisconsin thirteen, 653 00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:29,719 Speaker 2: Ucla thirteen, Nebraska ten, Penn State two. 654 00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:34,200 Speaker 6: Yes, Paul me I got a couple more for you. 655 00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:38,960 Speaker 6: Guess which team had the most overall signings yesterday? College 656 00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:42,640 Speaker 6: football program the most overall signings. 657 00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:44,600 Speaker 5: Well, I mentioned USC had thirty five. 658 00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:48,560 Speaker 6: USC's thirty five. They're third in the country. North Carolina 659 00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:52,359 Speaker 6: had thirty nine commits, including thirteen four stars. The North 660 00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:55,520 Speaker 6: Carolina recruiting classes ranked seventeenth in the country as of today. 661 00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:58,800 Speaker 6: Seat in your West Virginia Mountaineers of forty five commitment 662 00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:02,439 Speaker 6: whoa wow. A lot of three stars, but a lot 663 00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:07,760 Speaker 6: of them. The three different college programs had four five 664 00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:12,680 Speaker 6: stars signings. Oregon, Notre Dame and Alabama Notre Dame also 665 00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:15,440 Speaker 6: had zero d commits during yesterday. 666 00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:18,480 Speaker 2: And Marcus Freeman, Notre Dame head coach, was on the 667 00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:23,480 Speaker 2: Today Show yesterday and this is a completely different audience. 668 00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:25,719 Speaker 2: If you're going to go on and stump for we 669 00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:29,080 Speaker 2: should be in the college football Playoff, this isn't the 670 00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:31,560 Speaker 2: place to go unless your wife is going to tell 671 00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:35,359 Speaker 2: her husband, who's on the college football playoff selection show, 672 00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:38,560 Speaker 2: that that Marcus Freeman is really a nice man. You 673 00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:41,640 Speaker 2: should put him in the playoffs. He's also on there 674 00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:46,080 Speaker 2: because NBC and Notre Dame have a business relationship. And 675 00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:49,319 Speaker 2: also there's the second season behind the scenes at Notre 676 00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:52,600 Speaker 2: Dame football as well. Marcus Freeman was on there. And 677 00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:56,319 Speaker 2: I don't know why Alabama jumped Notre Dame, but they did. 678 00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:00,880 Speaker 2: And you know, the conspiracy theorist in me is like, Okay, 679 00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:04,120 Speaker 2: what's the committee getting ready to do? Because it felt 680 00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:08,839 Speaker 2: like Alabama, Yeah, they won the Iron Bowl, should they 681 00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:14,560 Speaker 2: have jumped Notre Dame. I get it, you know it's 682 00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:18,759 Speaker 2: a rivalry game, but okay, Auburn's not any good and yes, 683 00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:20,400 Speaker 2: Notre Dame roughed up Stanford. 684 00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:24,600 Speaker 6: Yeah, Pauline, I think that Alabama jumped ahead of Notre Dame. 685 00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:27,360 Speaker 6: So if Alabama loses in a close one this weekend, 686 00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:30,400 Speaker 6: Alabama could stay in the tournament. You can stay in 687 00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:33,319 Speaker 6: the playoffs, just like you know, Notre Dame's on the 688 00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:36,160 Speaker 6: ahead of Miami, so when they argue a week from 689 00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:39,719 Speaker 6: now and neither played, you could keep it. 690 00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:40,560 Speaker 5: Notre Dame where you are. 691 00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:43,440 Speaker 2: It's almost like they didn't think Miami. Miami's not getting in. 692 00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:51,120 Speaker 2: They're twelve. I think, right, yeah, they're not. Now I'm 693 00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:54,759 Speaker 2: surprised that it's that tenuous with Notre Dame, but maybe 694 00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:59,160 Speaker 2: the committee is something seeing something different. BYU and BYU 695 00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:01,680 Speaker 2: beats Texas to I don't think Notre Dame's going to 696 00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:04,120 Speaker 2: get in because they'll take BYU in Texas Tech. 697 00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:07,760 Speaker 5: Mark and Dayton, Hey, Mark, what's on your mind today? 698 00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:12,400 Speaker 8: Good morning, Dan, appreciate the opportunity talking to you. I 699 00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:15,000 Speaker 8: just like to make a comment about Steve Sarkisian and 700 00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:17,120 Speaker 8: his argument that he keeps trying to make for the 701 00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:21,080 Speaker 8: University of Texas. I am a huge Ohio State fan, 702 00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:25,239 Speaker 8: and I think he's arguing, well, he's trying to make 703 00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:27,839 Speaker 8: his points on the positive side, but on the other 704 00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:29,960 Speaker 8: side of the coin, there's one thing that sticks out. 705 00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:34,279 Speaker 8: Don't lose to Florida. And I have historical perspective on 706 00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:36,520 Speaker 8: this because two years in a row Ohio State had 707 00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:39,560 Speaker 8: one loss. The first year was a clonker at Iowa, 708 00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:42,759 Speaker 8: the second year was a real clonker at Purdue, and 709 00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:45,760 Speaker 8: when it came time for the playoffs, the only argument 710 00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:48,399 Speaker 8: you kept tearing everybody make against this was well, yeah, 711 00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:52,239 Speaker 8: but you can't lose that game. So I mean, you know, 712 00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:54,520 Speaker 8: if he doesn't lose to Florida, he's hit it too. 713 00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:56,640 Speaker 8: And obviously I believe he's in the game. 714 00:37:57,640 --> 00:37:58,040 Speaker 10: He's in the. 715 00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:02,440 Speaker 2: Playoffs a fair points. Yeah, we talked about that. Then 716 00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:07,160 Speaker 2: they get blown out against Georgia. So yes, you lose 717 00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:09,640 Speaker 2: to Florida. And I'm going to give you credit for 718 00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:12,880 Speaker 2: playing Ohio State at Ohio State, but I'm going to 719 00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:15,040 Speaker 2: Dania losing against Florida. 720 00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:18,080 Speaker 5: Zach and Knoxville. Hi, Zach, what's on your mind? 721 00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:22,040 Speaker 10: Adp, Thanks for taking my call. I just want to 722 00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:24,560 Speaker 10: go back to the if you were a high school 723 00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:27,120 Speaker 10: recrew and where you'd want to go. And Polly said 724 00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:30,200 Speaker 10: that it's different than it was twenty years ago, and. 725 00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:31,560 Speaker 8: I would say that it's not. 726 00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:33,960 Speaker 10: It is as far as like the nil money and 727 00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:37,960 Speaker 10: the compensation. But I think these players over the last 728 00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:41,839 Speaker 10: twenty ish years, the Internet has really opened it up 729 00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:44,800 Speaker 10: to where you can go to a smaller or lesser 730 00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:47,680 Speaker 10: school and still be noticed. I think of like a 731 00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:50,799 Speaker 10: Danny Woodhead who went to a small college in Nebraska, 732 00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:53,120 Speaker 10: and if you would have gone to Nebraska, you probably 733 00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:55,400 Speaker 10: would have just ended up being a third string cornerback 734 00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:58,439 Speaker 10: in the background. So do you think that these kids 735 00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:01,160 Speaker 10: should maybe go smaller and play a position that they 736 00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:03,360 Speaker 10: want to play, or would you jump right into the 737 00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:03,960 Speaker 10: big leagues. 738 00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:08,440 Speaker 2: Well, this is where you have to have guidance, because 739 00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:11,680 Speaker 2: in your mind you think you can play. You want 740 00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:14,239 Speaker 2: to make sure you have reality attached to this. And 741 00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:17,160 Speaker 2: here's another thing. And I brought this up because it 742 00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:19,760 Speaker 2: was brought up to me by one of my college 743 00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:22,960 Speaker 2: football sources that there's a bidding more. Maybe it's not 744 00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:25,399 Speaker 2: going on anymore, but it was between two big time 745 00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:27,879 Speaker 2: schools and it was for a high school tight end, 746 00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:31,840 Speaker 2: and it was two million dollars. They're getting their money 747 00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:35,759 Speaker 2: before they even get to college. That's what That's what 748 00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:38,840 Speaker 2: a lot of these programs are doing. It's worth signing 749 00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:42,440 Speaker 2: you up. You're part of our program until you're not 750 00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:46,480 Speaker 2: and then whatever you know, the contract states, do you 751 00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:47,600 Speaker 2: have to pay back money? 752 00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:48,640 Speaker 5: Whatever? You know. 753 00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:53,239 Speaker 2: However, it's kind of handed out yearly, quarterly, whatever it is. 754 00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:56,319 Speaker 2: But this tight end is getting two million dollars, hasn't 755 00:39:56,320 --> 00:40:00,400 Speaker 2: played a game for this university. That's what's happening. So 756 00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:01,960 Speaker 2: it's not one of those where they go, all right, 757 00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:04,920 Speaker 2: where's my money. A lot of these big time schools 758 00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:08,279 Speaker 2: and big time players already are getting paid. 759 00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:11,440 Speaker 5: And they're in high school. Yes, Marvin, Yeah, I remember. 760 00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:14,279 Speaker 3: The biggest recruiting tool would be every single April when 761 00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:16,680 Speaker 3: Nick Stable would go from table to table during the 762 00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:19,640 Speaker 3: NFL Draft. And I'm not sure if is that still 763 00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:22,839 Speaker 3: the case where it's like, hey, dabbos, Sweeney's everywhere during 764 00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:24,319 Speaker 3: draft Day? Is that still the same thing? 765 00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:28,680 Speaker 2: John Caliperry, he would do that at the NBA Draft 766 00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:32,359 Speaker 2: every year. Yeah, he'd be like, oh that guy, Yeah, 767 00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:34,520 Speaker 2: he's going first round. That guy's going first round. 768 00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:36,359 Speaker 6: Yeah, PAULI, I've got the list of the top five 769 00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:44,360 Speaker 6: recruits in the country and where they decided to go Vanderbilt, LSU, Houston, Miami, Maryland, Maryland, 770 00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:44,920 Speaker 6: and Houston. 771 00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:46,560 Speaker 5: That's surprising. 772 00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:50,280 Speaker 6: And again, I don't think that stuff happens without Nil. 773 00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:54,120 Speaker 2: Well, this is what was told to me a week ago. 774 00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:59,319 Speaker 2: Oil money, tech money. Make sure you keep an eye 775 00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:02,640 Speaker 2: on that oil money, tech money. And this was something 776 00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:05,480 Speaker 2: that Alabama, you know, when Saban was trying to tell 777 00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:07,520 Speaker 2: his boosters, hey, we got to keep up with Texas 778 00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:09,440 Speaker 2: A and M. He was trying to keep up with 779 00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:14,120 Speaker 2: oil money. Hey, you gotta have a treasure chest there. 780 00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:17,239 Speaker 2: One hour in the books, two more to go. Kurt 781 00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:19,440 Speaker 2: Warner will join us. Get us ready for the Cowboys 782 00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:23,479 Speaker 2: and the Lions and Brian Windhorst. If the Bucks would 783 00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:27,839 Speaker 2: trade Giannis, what could you possibly get in return? Hour 784 00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:31,600 Speaker 2: two on the way, Fritzy Seaton, Marv Polly, yours truly,