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Speaker 1: This is the Dallas Cowboys dot Com Draft Show. Cowboys

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Speaker 1: on your war room for insider news and draft analysis

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Speaker 1: from deep within the confines of Cowboys Headquarters at Valley Rand.

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Speaker 1: The Dallas Cowboys Selection by Rand Joe and now your

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Speaker 1: hosts Dane Brugler, David Hellman and Brian brought us. We

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Speaker 1: are here immobile, Alabama for the Senior Bowl. It's the

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Speaker 1: Draft Show. Brian brought us Dane Brugler, CBS Sports and

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Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys dot Com and David Hellman from Dallas Cowboys

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Speaker 1: dot Com. Kick Garrison the executive producer of the show.

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Speaker 1: As always and as we do and like to say,

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Speaker 1: we're here to investigate, Dane, then educate. Yes, absolutely, so

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Speaker 1: let's do some dim investigating. Today. We had some practices

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Speaker 1: the Senior Bowl. People feel savage in the group, were

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Speaker 1: nice enough to move it back this morning when we

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Speaker 1: all got up and we're doing activities, whether it was

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Speaker 1: going out and getting some coffee or going for a job,

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Speaker 1: whatever it was raining this morning, you did not go

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Speaker 1: for You went for a job for a job because

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Speaker 1: I'm tired of being a fat guy. I'm tired of

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Speaker 1: all those means people hawking at you. No, No, he's

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Speaker 1: tired of Proud Brian. I'm tired of Proud Brian because

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Speaker 1: I look like it's embarrassing. Yeah, marshmallow man, it's embarrassing

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Speaker 1: how fat I look. So I did not go for

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Speaker 1: a rod, so kudos to you. Well, but it was cold.

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Speaker 1: What I was yeah, what I was trying to get

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Speaker 1: to though, is that the Senior Bowl folk moved the

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Speaker 1: practices back, so we got a North practice at noon,

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Speaker 1: so we had back to back practice which I thought

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Speaker 1: were very cool. And uh and by the way too,

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Speaker 1: someone want to promote a little bit if I can't,

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Speaker 1: I know Ki Garrison does a great job. Uh. We

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Speaker 1: are one of our staples that Dave Hellman's a part

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Speaker 1: of and other writers is is Training Camp Live or

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Speaker 1: Ota Live. We gave you a little Senior Bowl Live

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Speaker 1: today and Dane Brugler and I were on the sidelines

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Speaker 1: for one on ones with the wide receivers and the

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Speaker 1: defensive backs. And I think you want to take a

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Speaker 1: look at that. They'll be on Dallas Cowboys dot com

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Speaker 1: up here after the show. Okay, so it's now posted

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Speaker 1: on Dallas Cowboys dot com, so maybe check that out.

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Speaker 1: Dane and I are doing a little commentary, and then

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Speaker 1: we got a little one on one. You've probably been

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Speaker 1: watching things on ESPN. If I'm not staking, it's been

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Speaker 1: recovered it at all our friends there. But this gives

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Speaker 1: you a little bit more of a perspective, Like I say,

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Speaker 1: from Dane myself and Kent was let me tell you

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Speaker 1: this was right in the middle of the action. Braxton

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Speaker 1: Miller almost blew him up, but Kent hung his ground,

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Speaker 1: commentary and then some shots if you want to take

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Speaker 1: a look at that. Hopefully we'll do some war tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: Maybe we'll get to the offensive lineman tomorrow if we can.

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Speaker 1: But I want to start with with all that being said,

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Speaker 1: though I can easily say, hey, impressions of the North practice,

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Speaker 1: impressions of the South practice today. But the fact that

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Speaker 1: the guy has had the pads on. Anybody surprised you?

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Speaker 1: Anybody come out, anybody that somebody that we weren't really

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Speaker 1: very highly Did anybody disappoint and I and when we

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Speaker 1: we talk about some of these players though Um, I

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Speaker 1: your guys, you know, I always like to get your

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Speaker 1: guys opinions on maybe some guys you saw that you say, hey, Brian,

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Speaker 1: this guy was pretty good today this guy was not

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Speaker 1: so good. Just give me a little bit of idea

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Speaker 1: Where are you gonna play him? Though? People are asking

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Speaker 1: about that on Twitter and on tape. He played inside,

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Speaker 1: And then Noah Spence probably had the best best practice

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Speaker 1: No one down here has that, but he does. Yeah anything, Dave,

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Speaker 1: you were you worried about his height though I was.

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Speaker 1: He reminded Ken Bishop. Yeah, for a variety of reasons,

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Speaker 1: Rod Marine, he was really complimentary of what he was

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Speaker 1: posting later. But uh, Maurice, how do you say this

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Speaker 1: everybody here, so he hung in there with Miller. Um,

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Speaker 1: talked about this. A lot of holding going on, with

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Speaker 1: Eric Murray the Minnesota corner, right, that's Murray, that's exactly

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Speaker 1: did with him today, Dane. Something that the count and

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Speaker 1: Dave knows this very well, being around the team every

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Speaker 1: Mason here always knows the answers to the questions. He

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Speaker 1: asked reference. Yeah, exactly, old he is a lawyer. Don't

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Speaker 1: worry about it, just answer the question. No, but what

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Speaker 1: did you see? Kenny? They put him at safety. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they tried him at safety in practice. So and it

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Speaker 1: puts what happens he's at his best what exactly when

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Speaker 1: that's when he's at his best. So it makes sense. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: drive on the football. So it makes a lot of sense.

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Speaker 1: I think Tavon Young, the Temple corner he helped himself

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Speaker 1: as well, had had a few nice reps against these receivers.

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Speaker 1: But you know, like we're talking about before, besides Braxon Miller,

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Speaker 1: these receivers on the North squad tough to get excited

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Speaker 1: about him, especially now with Carew. He's gonna be out

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Speaker 1: You know, with Sharp being out and now Carew, maybe

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Speaker 1: when you're watching, when you're watching, thought he was the

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Speaker 1: best receiver I saw the shrine. When you're watching William

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Speaker 1: when he can stay clean and play in space, now

429
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Speaker 1: he's not a safety, you know. I don't think you

430
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Speaker 1: can move him the safe, right, It's not that simple.

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Speaker 1: But what he can do as the are all for

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Speaker 1: the safety. But you know, for these guys, you know,

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Speaker 1: he can be a three down starter. I'm not convinced

436
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437
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Speaker 1: gonna get him on the field and he's gonna be

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Speaker 1: a coverage beast. Yeah. I like what Dave's saying about

439
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Speaker 1: Kyle Wilbur. I think that's a pretty fair comparison and

440
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441
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Speaker 1: In my im. He can run people. Get him on

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445
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Speaker 1: We're gonna start off with Slide, who wants to know

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Speaker 1: what you think of Miles Killerbrew the guy he's got

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Speaker 1: to be the most obscure school player here. And this

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Speaker 1: entire thing Southern Utah. Right, Yeah, although they do have

533
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Speaker 1: quite a few prospects in this draft. Actually they might

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Speaker 1: have three or four guys drafted. But good for them. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know, we watched him on tape together. Yeah, you know,

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Speaker 1: and we talked about this a little bit yesterday. Dane

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Speaker 1: to him when he gave it to me to do.

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Speaker 1: He was didn't listen. Well, no, but we watched the

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Speaker 1: you know, the tape doesn't lie, right, you know, it's

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Speaker 1: not We were unimpressed, were underwhelmed. We right, we saw

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Speaker 1: an athlete, a guy that can move a good size player,

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Speaker 1: but you know, routinely took poor angles. There's some other

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Speaker 1: question marks. But what have you seen from him this week?

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Speaker 1: Where you have you you've been impressed? A little bit

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Speaker 1: happy I have and what it makes me? And then

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Speaker 1: I go back and I look at the talk about

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Speaker 1: the Sam Houston game and the Utah State game and

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Speaker 1: you know, the stuff that we watched, and you know,

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Speaker 1: I look at my notes and it's like quick feet

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Speaker 1: breaks on the ball, you know, But I you know,

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Speaker 1: I thought he needed to wrap up better. I thought

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Speaker 1: he ran easy uh, you know, but you know, slight

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Speaker 1: delay in the way. Briggs didn't think he was very instinctive,

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Speaker 1: and I don't see I didn't think he always saw

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Speaker 1: the play developed. But and there's some explosiveness in the hole.

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Speaker 1: But he doesn't look like that guy out here. You know,

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Speaker 1: you see him run to the flat, you see him

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Speaker 1: being decisive. You see him now again he's gonna have

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Speaker 1: to tackle in this game, because I have some questions

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Speaker 1: about guys running, you know, running through arm tackles and

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Speaker 1: stuff like that. But to me, he looks like a

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Speaker 1: different player. But let's let's be honest here four four

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Speaker 1: nine speed is what they had. And that's the thing.

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Speaker 1: If he's gonna be drafted, probably in the second round,

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Speaker 1: and I think it's gonna be based off of the

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Speaker 1: measurables because when you watch him on tape, you know,

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Speaker 1: it's easy here to understand where the play is going.

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Speaker 1: He doesn't have to think too much here. I mean,

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Speaker 1: he doesn't have to worry about reading an offense here,

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Speaker 1: he doesn't have to worry about anticipating. Uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: it's all you know, Seaball get ball. It's it's these

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Speaker 1: we watched, I mean he was, you know, waiting for

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Speaker 1: the play to develop. Okay, then I'll go. It was

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Speaker 1: just he was too afraid of making a mistake, a

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Speaker 1: false step that uh you know is very hesitant and

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Speaker 1: here we're not seeing that. But it's easy to mask

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Speaker 1: that here for a safety. Yeah, did you see Jeremy

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Speaker 1: Cash today? By the way, there's a reason why he didn't.

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Speaker 1: But no, there's a reason why. We were up stairs

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Speaker 1: and the ball went vertical and all of a sudden

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Speaker 1: he was single high sterling. Shepherd did a little yeah,

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Speaker 1: I see. And the next thing, you know that it

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Speaker 1: was when if he's even with Cash, it's fat, it's

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Speaker 1: past Cash, he's open. So yeah, you're if you're a

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Speaker 1: because exactly he couldn't react ball, Like I say, Shepherd

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Speaker 1: blew by him and ball was down the field and

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Speaker 1: it was over. By the way, Shepherd had a nice

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Speaker 1: night today, not a bad day. Yeah. What Braxton Miller

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Speaker 1: is doing for the North squad. I think Shepherd's quietly

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Speaker 1: doing that for the South team. I don't. I mean

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Speaker 1: Braxton Miller. I think there's more hype because all he's

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Speaker 1: you know, he's not a wide receiver. You know, we

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Speaker 1: didn't know what to expect. Shepherd's just been doing It's,

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Speaker 1: you know, business as usual for him. We've seen him

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Speaker 1: do it for Oklahoma for how many years now? But

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Speaker 1: I think Shepherd's quietly having a very very nice week.

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Speaker 1: Good point, Dave. I want you guys to guess what

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Speaker 1: It's really easy. I want you to guess what program

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Speaker 1: Peyton is a fan of, because he wants to know

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Speaker 1: what Eric Murray and kJ may look like. It might

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Speaker 1: be a Gopher, Yeah, I think so. I tell you,

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Speaker 1: Eric Murray, him and Braxton Miller had a few good

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Speaker 1: North practice and again, honestly, the cornerbacks looked great today.

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Speaker 1: I mean they did that compete period. Yeah, all right,

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Speaker 1: maybe there was a little it's all good him. He

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Speaker 1: asked Eric Murray how many flags did you get this year,

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Speaker 1: because that's all he was doing. And that one, that

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Speaker 1: one on his jersey was sideways. That might be true,

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Speaker 1: but like he's he's like, he's got some Deva tendencies.

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Speaker 1: He yeah, he's got some Deva tendencies over there. Yes,

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Speaker 1: oh yeah, um he's yeah. But no, all the quints

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Speaker 1: they did a compete period about halfway through the North

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Speaker 1: practice three and oh all cornerbacks over receivers all three times. Yeah. Um, anyway,

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Speaker 1: but go ahead, wrote about that. I think you're putting

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Speaker 1: thought the North defensive backs we won the battle today,

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Speaker 1: and hey, there's no referees and if you have to

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Speaker 1: grab and hold and clutch and punch and whatever, you do,

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Speaker 1: do it. But Murray caught my eye today. Murray caught

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Speaker 1: my because every single time that Braxton Miller stepped up

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Speaker 1: to take a rep, he went with him, and he

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Speaker 1: realized he's saying, Okay, they're all here to see this

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Speaker 1: good looking number one run down the field. You know,

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Speaker 1: let me see if I can cover this this guy

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Speaker 1: that everybody's talking about, Dame Brugler in the top sixty.

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Speaker 1: Brian brought us in the top sixty. You know, let's see.

635
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Speaker 1: So yeah, I think Murray is what we saw on tape.

636
00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:59,320
Speaker 1: He's a physical press guy who looks to get his

637
00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:03,160
Speaker 1: hand on you, reroute you keep you uncomfortable. And you

638
00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:05,080
Speaker 1: know we've said that about a few corners this week.

639
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:07,920
Speaker 1: But Eric Murray that's his bread and butter um. And

640
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:10,840
Speaker 1: then kJ May the wide receiver. You know, I think

641
00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:13,320
Speaker 1: there was some talk about, well, he's a mobile native,

642
00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:16,320
Speaker 1: that's why he got the invite. Does he really belong here?

643
00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:19,000
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. So far, he looks like he belongs.

644
00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:22,320
Speaker 1: I mean he's he's small, obviously, but uh, I think

645
00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:23,960
Speaker 1: he has good build on him. And so far he's

646
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:26,000
Speaker 1: catching everything that comes his way. And he's, you know,

647
00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:29,040
Speaker 1: a good catching go type of guy who not the fastest,

648
00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:31,720
Speaker 1: not going to run a blazing time, but he's quick.

649
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:33,840
Speaker 1: And yeah, so he's able to catch the ball, get

650
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:36,000
Speaker 1: up the field and make something happen. Well, let me

651
00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:38,040
Speaker 1: tell you another thing that he can do. He can block.

652
00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:41,000
Speaker 1: And I and I thought in this and and I

653
00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:44,920
Speaker 1: thought this where Cyrus Jones to me, Alabama is a

654
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:47,240
Speaker 1: tough I mean he's a five nine guy, but he's

655
00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:49,720
Speaker 1: tough scrap he will come up and he will he

656
00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:52,560
Speaker 1: will fight you. And there was a couple of times

657
00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:55,520
Speaker 1: where they did an individual blocking trew where it's a

658
00:31:55,640 --> 00:32:00,640
Speaker 1: stalk and then attack, and two times May and Jones

659
00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:04,680
Speaker 1: went head to head with each other and May got

660
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:07,160
Speaker 1: the best of him. So if you can, if you're

661
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:10,480
Speaker 1: a guy that they seem like, hey, you know, everybody

662
00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:13,880
Speaker 1: in Dallas cowboy Land says, can they find a better

663
00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:17,080
Speaker 1: Dwayne Harris? Can they find a guy that not afraid

664
00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:19,200
Speaker 1: at the point of attack? It can make some plays,

665
00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:22,160
Speaker 1: some make some catches, can block. Maybe he's got some

666
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:25,280
Speaker 1: special teams in his blood. Keep an eye on that kid,

667
00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:29,760
Speaker 1: because he showed some toughness today. Scrappy yep, um physical.

668
00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:32,640
Speaker 1: I am Thomas is intrigued, and I am also intrigued

669
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:37,200
Speaker 1: because other than Carson Wentz, like anybody who watches college football,

670
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:39,520
Speaker 1: it's the over and underdone this U you maybe you

671
00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:42,440
Speaker 1: hear this guy's name and you think like, huh, yeah

672
00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:46,080
Speaker 1: that guy. Can you guys what I'm talking about right now? Yep?

673
00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:49,120
Speaker 1: That's I think he's the second best quarterback on the

674
00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:52,160
Speaker 1: North Frost, no doubt about it. He's the second best quarterback.

675
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:56,400
Speaker 1: Maybe Yeah, I mean I that's disappointing for me, just

676
00:32:56,840 --> 00:33:02,240
Speaker 1: rist just for me to want to be man. I do.

677
00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:04,800
Speaker 1: But Driscoll has been impressive in the opportunity. But she

678
00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:06,560
Speaker 1: had a chance to talk with him today. What was

679
00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:08,240
Speaker 1: he What was the vibe? And I'm talking about the

680
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:14,400
Speaker 1: Jacoby Brisset prices I always jack those names up. Played

681
00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:18,720
Speaker 1: better than I learned. I I like his demeanor. He's

682
00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:22,160
Speaker 1: he's calm, cool, collected, he said. I thought it was interesting.

683
00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:25,360
Speaker 1: He said, Uh, leadership and poise are his best, two

684
00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:27,680
Speaker 1: things that he brings. And I'm thinking back to his tape.

685
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:30,600
Speaker 1: I mean, he certainly seems cool under pressure. I haven't

686
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:33,280
Speaker 1: he was bad today. Well, anybody on the South team

687
00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:35,160
Speaker 1: I haven't had as good of a chance to watch

688
00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:40,640
Speaker 1: because in the North team is just dominating your workload exactly. Um,

689
00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:42,760
Speaker 1: So it's disappointing to hear that. I did. I did

690
00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:44,680
Speaker 1: like his demeanor, just in terms of talking to the

691
00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:47,000
Speaker 1: guy and seeing what he's all about. UM through the

692
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:49,680
Speaker 1: ball awfully today, Yeah, that's didn't hit. You know, there

693
00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:52,960
Speaker 1: was times where guys receivers open. He was in between

694
00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:55,960
Speaker 1: some throws he sidelined to the out. It was too

695
00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:58,880
Speaker 1: high and I'm thinking nerves or I'm just thinking not

696
00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:02,080
Speaker 1: very good today. And you know, Kevin Hogan was like

697
00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:04,040
Speaker 1: that for the North team today. Just I mean, I

698
00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:09,240
Speaker 1: he there were balls going wide and short and high.

699
00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:11,880
Speaker 1: And when it comes to these quarterbacks, I just my

700
00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:13,879
Speaker 1: mom always said, if you have nothing nice to say,

701
00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:15,840
Speaker 1: don't say it at all. So that's well, welcome to

702
00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:19,120
Speaker 1: the draft show. I'm going to get paid to say. Sorry. No,

703
00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:22,320
Speaker 1: it's I agree about Driscoll. I mean it Wentz obviously

704
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:24,320
Speaker 1: the top guy. If I don't get my quarterback in

705
00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:27,719
Speaker 1: the first two rounds, top forty picks, Driscoll is a

706
00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:30,040
Speaker 1: guy I'm looking at in the mid rounds. Are people

707
00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:33,040
Speaker 1: going back on Cook and saying, you know what, maybe Cook.

708
00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:36,080
Speaker 1: Cook has a whole lot of other issues going on.

709
00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:38,480
Speaker 1: I know, yeah, you know, never threw for fifty nine

710
00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:42,200
Speaker 1: percent completions in his career, It wasn't voted a team captain.

711
00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:44,640
Speaker 1: There's some character stuff going on. So I think Cook,

712
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:47,560
Speaker 1: if he doesn't go about him, oh yeah, his teammates,

713
00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:49,719
Speaker 1: I'll say some bad stuff. Get him out of here,

714
00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:51,560
Speaker 1: get him off my board. I don't like him. I

715
00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:54,439
Speaker 1: don't Cook. Yeah, alright, no, I pull this up when

716
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:56,360
Speaker 1: we draft, you will not be knowing person saying that,

717
00:34:57,320 --> 00:35:01,360
Speaker 1: Um let's tell tell me about Driscoll though, because he

718
00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:03,160
Speaker 1: has looked intrigue and like I said, I think there's

719
00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:06,960
Speaker 1: a stigma attached to the fact that the Florida didn't

720
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:09,360
Speaker 1: go so well. And I'm guilty of this too. After

721
00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:12,399
Speaker 1: he looked awful of Florida. I mean that that entire

722
00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:15,239
Speaker 1: offense did him no favors though, you know, when he

723
00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:17,040
Speaker 1: was there under must Champ and I think a lot

724
00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:20,080
Speaker 1: of people just wrote him off as a prospect. Transferred

725
00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:22,160
Speaker 1: to Louisiana Tech this year as a fifth year senior,

726
00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:27,080
Speaker 1: reinvented himself so as as a pro prospect, and you know,

727
00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:29,439
Speaker 1: you can say, well, you know, the competition wasn't as good.

728
00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:32,560
Speaker 1: Louisiana Tech played Mississippi State this year and Driscoll had

729
00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:36,279
Speaker 1: a terrific game that game. So to me, Driscoll is

730
00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:39,239
Speaker 1: a guy that I'm not convinced he's a starter down

731
00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:41,480
Speaker 1: the road. But if I don't get my guy early

732
00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:44,400
Speaker 1: and I still want to draft a quarterback, Driscoll's the

733
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:47,400
Speaker 1: guy that I'm targeting in the middle rounds. That's interesting

734
00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:50,640
Speaker 1: to me. I mean, yeah, we focus so much on four.

735
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:52,920
Speaker 1: And you know, maybe WinCE was a guy that you

736
00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:55,080
Speaker 1: used to look at at thirty four. That doesn't seem

737
00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:57,879
Speaker 1: likely now. And so now I'm just trying to get

738
00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:00,759
Speaker 1: a mental image of what's your next opportunity to look

739
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:02,759
Speaker 1: at a quarterback. If you don't go it for see,

740
00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:04,920
Speaker 1: that's the thing I would. Yeah, And you can't just

741
00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:06,680
Speaker 1: let it this week. I mean, there's some things you

742
00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:08,680
Speaker 1: can learn from this week. Don't get me wrong. I

743
00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:11,000
Speaker 1: think some guys, you know, you're just evaluating. It's just

744
00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:13,919
Speaker 1: another opportunity. And I admire the guys for coming out here,

745
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:16,359
Speaker 1: the Hogans and the Kessel because I'm not a huge

746
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:18,799
Speaker 1: Kessler fan. Hey and and I but you know, am

747
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:22,120
Speaker 1: Iron for throwing the football. They're here, the other quarterbacks are,

748
00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:26,399
Speaker 1: But I will I will say this though about Driscoll though,

749
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:30,080
Speaker 1: and maybe it has to do with just the uncertainty

750
00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:33,720
Speaker 1: of you know, being nervous. But he holds the ball

751
00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:36,400
Speaker 1: and may on tape. I haven't studied them on tape,

752
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:39,520
Speaker 1: but he holds that thing. And you're like bro in

753
00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:42,920
Speaker 1: the NFL. In the NFL, these corners they give you

754
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:45,800
Speaker 1: no window, and you better just let it fly. You

755
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:48,240
Speaker 1: better just let it, cut it loose and go play,

756
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:50,960
Speaker 1: because if you don't, you're not gonna be playing. Really,

757
00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:53,680
Speaker 1: that's why he is a mid rounder at best and

758
00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:55,719
Speaker 1: not you know, because all the tools are there. I mean,

759
00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:58,240
Speaker 1: he's a well built kid. He can move, he's an athlete,

760
00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:01,840
Speaker 1: has a big arm and scout you know, I tweeted

761
00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:03,920
Speaker 1: about this back in October, a scout told me he

762
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:06,440
Speaker 1: is the best leader at quarterback he has talked to

763
00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:09,719
Speaker 1: in ten years. Yeah, so, I mean it's all their

764
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:13,240
Speaker 1: for him. But the anticipation, the vision as a passer,

765
00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:15,680
Speaker 1: it's just not has not caught up yet and so

766
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:18,200
Speaker 1: there's a good chance they never will. And that's why

767
00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:20,239
Speaker 1: he's a mid round guy, not a you know, top

768
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:22,800
Speaker 1: fifty player. And you asked me about Brissette. For the record,

769
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:25,359
Speaker 1: I talked to Driscoll on Tuesday morning at the Way,

770
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:28,160
Speaker 1: and that's a seasoned dude in terms of dealing with

771
00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:29,880
Speaker 1: that type of stuff. And I mean you would expect

772
00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:31,880
Speaker 1: that from a guy who spent three four years at

773
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:35,600
Speaker 1: a program like UF. But he's very comfortable with the media,

774
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:40,600
Speaker 1: very comfortable at talking and and being eloquent without shooting

775
00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:43,320
Speaker 1: from the hip, you know, sounding like he's patting himself

776
00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:45,720
Speaker 1: on the bat kind of guy. He's savvy, he's savvy

777
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:50,239
Speaker 1: media presence. Well, and I'm about to ask Dane to

778
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:53,520
Speaker 1: do something really difficult that he's it's it's unfair, but

779
00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:58,399
Speaker 1: I just know he's all right. Let's just assume. I mean,

780
00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:01,320
Speaker 1: you know you're big. You're big, guys, your your golf,

781
00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:04,439
Speaker 1: your lynch, your wins, you know your first round guys

782
00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:07,239
Speaker 1: all go in the first round. What I mean, where

783
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:09,680
Speaker 1: where's the next spot where you feel comfortable about the

784
00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:12,360
Speaker 1: Cowboys picking a quarterback? I mean it doesn't seem to

785
00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:15,959
Speaker 1: be maybe Connor Cook maybe, but who do you feel

786
00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:19,040
Speaker 1: good about it? Like thirty four or sixty whatever. I

787
00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:20,600
Speaker 1: don't see them. I don't feel good about any of

788
00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:23,280
Speaker 1: those guys at thirty four. But in the early third round,

789
00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:26,200
Speaker 1: that's when if Cook's still around, he needs to be

790
00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:28,359
Speaker 1: in the conversation. If he's I think Cook can start

791
00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:30,120
Speaker 1: in the NFL. I just think he's a very low

792
00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:32,319
Speaker 1: ceiling right. Um, I don't think he's a guy that

793
00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:35,560
Speaker 1: is a long term answer. Um, there's just there's something

794
00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:38,600
Speaker 1: missing from from Connor Cook and then the name. We're

795
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:40,400
Speaker 1: gonna hear a lot about and he's not here. But

796
00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:44,440
Speaker 1: Christian Hackenberg depends on that. I forgot all about him

797
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:46,680
Speaker 1: because like you're in like Senior Bowl road and you're

798
00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:49,600
Speaker 1: thinking about senior quarterbacks. Yeah that if he's still there

799
00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:51,839
Speaker 1: in the early third round, then you know it's worth

800
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:54,880
Speaker 1: the conversation because it's is he already you know, we

801
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:56,600
Speaker 1: saw what he did as a freshman and the last

802
00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:59,280
Speaker 1: two years have been in disasters. He already damaged goods.

803
00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:01,759
Speaker 1: You know, there's a lot to work with there, but

804
00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:04,440
Speaker 1: there's a lot of red flags too, so the tape

805
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:07,960
Speaker 1: is not kind, but again there's a lot to work.

806
00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:09,760
Speaker 1: Let me bring up a couple of names of guys

807
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:14,040
Speaker 1: that you've seen. How about Press Scott? I like Dak Prescott.

808
00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:15,920
Speaker 1: I do I mean, I again, I don't see an

809
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:19,680
Speaker 1: NFL starter. But he's what I think people wanted Tim

810
00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:23,560
Speaker 1: Tebow to be. I mean he's a better version exactly,

811
00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:27,960
Speaker 1: but athlete, right, an athlete who you can run. He's

812
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:30,600
Speaker 1: a great leader. Uh, you know, holds a ton of

813
00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:32,840
Speaker 1: SEC records. I mean, I don't really think he is

814
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:35,439
Speaker 1: what people wanted Tim Tebow to be. Uh. Now he

815
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:37,960
Speaker 1: needs he needs work. Even though he was you know,

816
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:39,919
Speaker 1: a three and a half year starter at Mississippi State.

817
00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:43,040
Speaker 1: He still needs work. Uh, and he's not an NFL

818
00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:45,600
Speaker 1: starter from day one, But you know, I don't see

819
00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:47,440
Speaker 1: an NFL starter down the road. But I do think

820
00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:49,279
Speaker 1: he can be a backup in this league. With the

821
00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:51,279
Speaker 1: name out for both of you guys have seen this guy,

822
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:55,680
Speaker 1: Cordel Jones, Ohio State May I made my opinions on

823
00:39:55,800 --> 00:40:00,120
Speaker 1: him pretty well, felt I think last week I'm I

824
00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:02,799
Speaker 1: just no way for you, no get out of here.

825
00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:05,640
Speaker 1: I love him, He's I don't love him if he

826
00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:08,080
Speaker 1: actually has to do anything right away, Like I mean,

827
00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:11,040
Speaker 1: if if Romo breaks his clavical in week three of

828
00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:12,960
Speaker 1: twenty sixteen, and Cardell Jones is the guy that they

829
00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:15,120
Speaker 1: turned to, it's probably not going to be pretty. But

830
00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:20,239
Speaker 1: he's a freak. He's he's a freak show. He's so athletic,

831
00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:23,920
Speaker 1: he can shrug off a defensive end like he's a toddler.

832
00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:26,360
Speaker 1: He's got he's got to have the strongest arm of

833
00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:29,880
Speaker 1: any quarterback that's in this draft. Could teams fall in

834
00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:33,240
Speaker 1: love with him over what we've seen from there's no question.

835
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:35,319
Speaker 1: I mean they brought all they brought. How many guys

836
00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:38,520
Speaker 1: are here? Nine I think he's got enough. I feel

837
00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:40,480
Speaker 1: like he's got enough holes in his game that it's

838
00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:43,440
Speaker 1: going to keep anybody and and probably his personality and

839
00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:45,200
Speaker 1: all that type of stuff too that people are gonna

840
00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:47,600
Speaker 1: be dissecting. That's gonna keep anybody from falling too much

841
00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:49,759
Speaker 1: in love with him. But this is the whole. You're

842
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:52,360
Speaker 1: drafting a guy who you can who is ready to

843
00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:54,480
Speaker 1: go and who can take over right away and as

844
00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:56,840
Speaker 1: your starter in two or three years. Or are you

845
00:40:56,920 --> 00:40:58,520
Speaker 1: drafting a guy who's maybe a little bit of a

846
00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:00,480
Speaker 1: project and you can live with that because you have

847
00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:03,520
Speaker 1: Tony Romo. I think, I mean that's gonna be That's

848
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:06,080
Speaker 1: the balance that's gonna exist for the next few months.

849
00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:08,279
Speaker 1: To me, I think Cardel Jones, and this was true

850
00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:11,160
Speaker 1: if he came out last year or this year, his

851
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:14,480
Speaker 1: draft stock is all will be built at the combine.

852
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:20,319
Speaker 1: That's I mean smart. Yeah, put him on the white board, right?

853
00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:23,239
Speaker 1: Does he know? Does he not know? What can he learn?

854
00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:26,480
Speaker 1: Was he capable of learning? I mean, there's a lot

855
00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:28,279
Speaker 1: that we have to figure out about Cardel Jones. We

856
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:31,000
Speaker 1: see the physical talent, but and people are gonna say

857
00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:33,799
Speaker 1: he lost money by returning. No, he looks like the

858
00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:36,919
Speaker 1: exact same quarterback this year that we saw last year.

859
00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:39,400
Speaker 1: The only difference was he entered this year with expectations,

860
00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:42,160
Speaker 1: and so because he didn't live up to those expectations,

861
00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:45,120
Speaker 1: necessarily people think that he hurt himself. He was eleven

862
00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:47,560
Speaker 1: or no as a starter, you know, his eleven career

863
00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:50,520
Speaker 1: starts in college he went undefeated. Story, I mean, how

864
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:55,000
Speaker 1: many double how many players quarterbacks at the college level

865
00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:58,120
Speaker 1: started double digit games and went undefeated, right, there can't

866
00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:00,680
Speaker 1: be too many, And so I I do think at

867
00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:02,960
Speaker 1: the end of the day, Cardil Jones be drafted somewhere

868
00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:05,879
Speaker 1: third fourth round. A team will take a chance on him,

869
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:09,799
Speaker 1: you know, draft and developed that type of player. You talk,

870
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:12,160
Speaker 1: where do they pick in the third round, like sixty

871
00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:16,440
Speaker 1: seven something like that, get me two impact play like

872
00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:19,520
Speaker 1: impact dudes who are gonna help the team right away

873
00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:22,640
Speaker 1: in the first two rounds and that project. You sign

874
00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:25,080
Speaker 1: a veteran guy in free agency who can be the

875
00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:28,640
Speaker 1: backup and let Cardell be three. Let's let's go like

876
00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:31,359
Speaker 1: I'm so. And and also I say that I said

877
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:34,440
Speaker 1: this last year and the year before that about Johnny Manziel,

878
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:38,319
Speaker 1: Like as a writer, he intrigues me because he would

879
00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:42,160
Speaker 1: make my job so easy. Came out, well, Tregan came

880
00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:46,880
Speaker 1: out today. Yeah, Hey, Johnny Manziel or Cardal Jones. I

881
00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:49,959
Speaker 1: mean I'd rather what train wreck do you want? Don't

882
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:52,120
Speaker 1: you think that Cardel Jones has a higher ceiling than

883
00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:55,000
Speaker 1: I would? I would sure? Yeah, I think that that's

884
00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:58,279
Speaker 1: fair to say. There's no doubt that part of my

885
00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:00,839
Speaker 1: intrigue is because I know how he would be for

886
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:04,360
Speaker 1: the business of writing sports stories, no doubt. But I

887
00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:06,279
Speaker 1: think he's a really talented player too. He is a

888
00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:10,080
Speaker 1: talented football player anyway, but maybe his stock is going

889
00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:14,520
Speaker 1: up because of what he became starting to see. Speaking

890
00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:18,000
Speaker 1: of Johnny Manziel, I mean, Cardell's going to have a

891
00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:21,040
Speaker 1: big televised Pro day workout with George Whitfield hitting him

892
00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:23,319
Speaker 1: with that broom sometimes in the next couple of months. Yeah,

893
00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:25,840
Speaker 1: He's been working with him as soon as Ohio State.

894
00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:28,000
Speaker 1: If he does well at that quarter Dame, Well, that's

895
00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:31,040
Speaker 1: that's where I was saying. His entire draft stock will

896
00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:33,239
Speaker 1: be built on what he does doing the process. But

897
00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:35,719
Speaker 1: did you watch Cardell and tape? I did, and we

898
00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:38,880
Speaker 1: watched him together, watched him. I was gushing and losing

899
00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:41,080
Speaker 1: my mind and acting like a girl with a crush.

900
00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:44,320
Speaker 1: And Brian was like, you need to relax. Where realistically

901
00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:47,680
Speaker 1: would you feel comfortable drafting Cardell Jones? I think you

902
00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:50,399
Speaker 1: said fifth? No I didn't. What'd you say? I think

903
00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:52,000
Speaker 1: I was? I had him in the fourth That's where

904
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:53,800
Speaker 1: I had him in the fourth and I and the

905
00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:58,000
Speaker 1: reason why I the thing that I was really worried

906
00:43:58,040 --> 00:44:00,960
Speaker 1: about with him is I never ever saw his throwing

907
00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:04,239
Speaker 1: motion was the same. And and maybe there's a lot

908
00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:06,399
Speaker 1: of quarterbacks and people out there saying, oh I brought

909
00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:08,680
Speaker 1: a shut up. You know, there's a lot of quarterbacks

910
00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:11,040
Speaker 1: that drop down, do this, do that. But I know

911
00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:13,399
Speaker 1: I worry about him if things got a little tough

912
00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:15,719
Speaker 1: and him having to make Okay, I've got to rely

913
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:17,800
Speaker 1: on this. I gotta make this throw. Is it gonna

914
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:21,359
Speaker 1: be the same or something gonna click where he doesn't quite? Yeah?

915
00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:23,080
Speaker 1: And that that's it. I think that's what you make

916
00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:26,799
Speaker 1: the point about the off season and him working with Whitfield,

917
00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:30,360
Speaker 1: you know, cleaning him up, tightening him up, the footwork

918
00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:33,000
Speaker 1: on there's no question about the arm strength, the lower

919
00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:35,400
Speaker 1: body power, the ability to drive the football. He just

920
00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:37,560
Speaker 1: flicks it and the ball goes, he throws it with

921
00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:39,960
Speaker 1: some pace. He's got a little tough, but he never

922
00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:43,280
Speaker 1: is are it never never kind of get an idea

923
00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:46,560
Speaker 1: where he's gonna where that launch point is gonna be

924
00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:49,279
Speaker 1: for his ball, and maybe he's a little bit you know,

925
00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:52,600
Speaker 1: there's quarterbacks in this league. The guy that's gonna play

926
00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:55,400
Speaker 1: in the super Bowl for Carolina is a launch is

927
00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:58,240
Speaker 1: a different launch point player. He's gonna win a NFL

928
00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:01,040
Speaker 1: MVP in about nine days and he only completed fifty

929
00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:03,719
Speaker 1: eight or fifty nine percent of his passes. So yeah,

930
00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:07,800
Speaker 1: I mean it's, uh, there are better quarterbacks obviously in

931
00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:10,480
Speaker 1: this draft class, but he's the most intriguing one. Have

932
00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:13,520
Speaker 1: any more of these questions? Yeah, yeah, Not to get sidetracked.

933
00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:16,960
Speaker 1: This one was interesting to me because this guy joined

934
00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:19,760
Speaker 1: us late. But Chris wants to know about DJ Foster,

935
00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:22,319
Speaker 1: the Arizona State running back who joined the North team.

936
00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:27,760
Speaker 1: Thoughts impressions. He's kind of, uh in the North version

937
00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:31,200
Speaker 1: of Kenyan Drake. You know, he's yeah, he's not really

938
00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:33,719
Speaker 1: a running back, not really a receiver. He's kind of

939
00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:36,920
Speaker 1: a hybrid version of both. He's at his best when

940
00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:39,120
Speaker 1: he can catch the ball of the backfield. Uh, is

941
00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:41,440
Speaker 1: he just a crazy runner? Yeah, when you when you

942
00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:43,960
Speaker 1: watch my tape, because that's what Drake is, right, Drake

943
00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:47,040
Speaker 1: is not as crazy, but he's not also not as fast, right,

944
00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:50,680
Speaker 1: So he drove the foster, dropped a few passes today,

945
00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:52,560
Speaker 1: you know, is a is a rough first practice for him.

946
00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:54,319
Speaker 1: So we'll see what he does tomorrow, how he can

947
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:57,000
Speaker 1: answer and you know, show some improvement. I got you, Okay, Dave,

948
00:45:57,080 --> 00:45:58,799
Speaker 1: one more question. We got to take a break. AJ

949
00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:02,480
Speaker 1: wants to know we've touched on him. But Jordan Jenkins,

950
00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:08,200
Speaker 1: the tweener from Georgia has been flashing some stuff again. Thoughts.

951
00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:13,080
Speaker 1: There was a few good uh Georgia Georgia battles. Yeah,

952
00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:16,920
Speaker 1: theis number seventy one, sure, and I think Jenkins won

953
00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:19,800
Speaker 1: for the most part of those battles because he plays

954
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:21,960
Speaker 1: he comes off the line of scrimmage low and so

955
00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:25,080
Speaker 1: he's able to extend his arms and you get into

956
00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:28,160
Speaker 1: the attack the body of blockers and move them. He's

957
00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:30,680
Speaker 1: you know, he's able to dictate where the blocker's gonna go.

958
00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:33,239
Speaker 1: And so I still like him best in a three

959
00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:35,480
Speaker 1: to four where he can stand up and move around

960
00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:37,400
Speaker 1: a little bit. But you know, he showed me some

961
00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:40,200
Speaker 1: things today as a defensive end, hand on the ground,

962
00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:44,040
Speaker 1: you know, just getting up field quickly attacking blocks. I'm

963
00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:46,239
Speaker 1: not sure he's gonna be a guy consistently gonna win

964
00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:49,120
Speaker 1: with speed around the edge. But I did like what

965
00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:51,000
Speaker 1: I saw from today. Yeah, I tell you what, Dane

966
00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:53,480
Speaker 1: just gave you a great thumbnail because I'd proud my

967
00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:56,239
Speaker 1: notes are similar. I thought, this guy can really get

968
00:46:56,320 --> 00:46:59,480
Speaker 1: some push. He lowers his head, he can extend on blockers,

969
00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:02,120
Speaker 1: he can have avoid blocks. He's got some pop at

970
00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:04,800
Speaker 1: the point of attack, which I really like. Tackles in space.

971
00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:07,879
Speaker 1: He's aware, he doesn't get fool you talk about playing

972
00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:10,800
Speaker 1: outside some of the things that they have to deal with.

973
00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:14,040
Speaker 1: Gets up the field, act he finds the football. He

974
00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:16,960
Speaker 1: could overpower blockers. I mean, I'm talking about the running backs.

975
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:19,719
Speaker 1: He could just flat get it, squeeze the hole when

976
00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:21,480
Speaker 1: he plays on the end and gets off the ground,

977
00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:24,399
Speaker 1: can avoid low blocks. So yeah, he's he plays all

978
00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:27,839
Speaker 1: over the place in George's scheme, and someone's gonna find

979
00:47:27,880 --> 00:47:31,719
Speaker 1: a spot because again, he has size, he's got ability,

980
00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:34,200
Speaker 1: He's got that ability to play with power, and I

981
00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:36,200
Speaker 1: think that's where a lot of guys. A lot of

982
00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:38,399
Speaker 1: teams are looking for that edge type of players. Talk

983
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:41,560
Speaker 1: about length. Thirty four inch arms, yeah, eleven inch hands.

984
00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:45,400
Speaker 1: I mean that's that's the type of length. That's Catcher

985
00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:48,360
Speaker 1: Smiths right there. Okay, thank you for everybody for the

986
00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:52,359
Speaker 1: questions on Twitter. We always appreciate that. We love thanks

987
00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:54,160
Speaker 1: to Ed K. Hill for Twitter on the twenty we

988
00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:56,400
Speaker 1: learned a long time ago. Love. I love that you

989
00:47:56,480 --> 00:47:58,920
Speaker 1: continue to give him credit for that. I get I

990
00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:01,120
Speaker 1: give Ed a lot of credit for this Draft Show. Yeah,

991
00:48:01,160 --> 00:48:03,080
Speaker 1: we're not here with that, Yeah exactly. Ed had a

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00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:05,239
Speaker 1: bish on and Derek Eagleton for putting it on the

993
00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:07,399
Speaker 1: air Force. So, okay, we're going to take a break

994
00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:10,080
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00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:12,040
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Speaker 1: up Day two of the Senior Bowl. Conversations we've had,

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00:50:27,040 --> 00:50:29,320
Speaker 1: We've covered a lot of topics, a lot of players.

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1041
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1042
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1044
00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:49,960
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1045
00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:52,480
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1046
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1047
00:50:55,800 --> 00:50:57,560
Speaker 1: Every time we get on here, I think back to

1048
00:50:57,640 --> 00:51:00,360
Speaker 1: the last spring, like there's footage out out there of

1049
00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:04,360
Speaker 1: me somewhere, just dog and Randy Gregory like no, don't

1050
00:51:04,600 --> 00:51:07,560
Speaker 1: do it. No, Yeah. And then at training camp I

1051
00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:09,560
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1052
00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:12,719
Speaker 1: just blowing past Tyran. And then at the end of

1053
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Speaker 1: the season, I was like, h feel about feel so

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00:51:16,600 --> 00:51:19,200
Speaker 1: bad about him. So just a just a couple of

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Speaker 1: programming notes for tomorrow, we lose, we're gonna go at

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Speaker 1: the same time. We'll be at six thirty Central time tomorrow.

1057
00:51:25,880 --> 00:51:28,279
Speaker 1: We're gonna lose. Dane will not have Yeah, we will

1058
00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:32,040
Speaker 1: not have Dane, but we will have Jeff Cavanaugh and

1059
00:51:32,280 --> 00:51:34,680
Speaker 1: Kevin Turner. From one to five three the fan. They're

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00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:37,520
Speaker 1: here at the Senior Bowl with us. Uh. These are

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00:51:37,600 --> 00:51:41,360
Speaker 1: guys that together we've done about one hundred and fifteen

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00:51:41,520 --> 00:51:44,920
Speaker 1: players and they do a nice job of learning about

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00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:46,719
Speaker 1: the draft. So we'll get into We'll have another draft

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00:51:46,760 --> 00:51:48,320
Speaker 1: show for you tomorrow, but just a little bit different.

1065
00:51:48,360 --> 00:51:50,960
Speaker 1: Crew day will be here, but we'll be rotating some

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00:51:51,080 --> 00:51:53,640
Speaker 1: guys in and out and uh, but that tomorrow will

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Speaker 1: be our last day. We have no show on Friday.

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00:51:56,520 --> 00:51:59,800
Speaker 1: We'll go back to normal shows on Friday the following

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00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:03,759
Speaker 1: week and uh, but stay tuned at the draft show

1070
00:52:03,800 --> 00:52:05,920
Speaker 1: again if you need to follow that. We'll put out

1071
00:52:05,960 --> 00:52:08,960
Speaker 1: information when shows are information anything you need to know

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00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:12,840
Speaker 1: about the draft and what we're gonna do. So before

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00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:17,560
Speaker 1: we close this thing out, we talked about some good

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00:52:17,680 --> 00:52:20,279
Speaker 1: some bad today and I always like to go, what

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00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:24,640
Speaker 1: are you looking for tomorrow? What? What what sets up

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00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:27,440
Speaker 1: in your mind? You know, is there something different we're

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00:52:27,440 --> 00:52:30,680
Speaker 1: gonna see from the receivers? Braxton Miller is something different

1078
00:52:30,760 --> 00:52:33,880
Speaker 1: from him? Day? The quarterbacks, we kind of were railing

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00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:36,040
Speaker 1: on them a little bit. Defensive line, Danie been for

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00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:38,520
Speaker 1: offensive line. We you know, what what do you see?

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00:52:38,600 --> 00:52:40,719
Speaker 1: This is gonna be this is gonna be really the

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00:52:40,800 --> 00:52:43,200
Speaker 1: third practice for these guys, and they're getting ready for

1083
00:52:43,400 --> 00:52:47,200
Speaker 1: a Saturday game, which Dallas Cowboys dot Com. We'll be

1084
00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:50,960
Speaker 1: here to cover Dave, myself and Kik Garrison will be

1085
00:52:51,160 --> 00:52:52,920
Speaker 1: here to cover it before. We're gonna treat it just

1086
00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:55,359
Speaker 1: like a game and have a twelve thoughts and things.

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00:52:55,400 --> 00:52:57,440
Speaker 1: But just tomorrow, what are you what are you kind

1088
00:52:57,480 --> 00:53:00,160
Speaker 1: of thinking about on a on a Thursday practice. I

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00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:02,600
Speaker 1: want to see, you know, we talked about him, Alapa,

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00:53:02,680 --> 00:53:04,799
Speaker 1: Carson Wentz, Braxon Miller. I want to see how they

1091
00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:08,080
Speaker 1: continue to show Do they continue to show improvement? Do

1092
00:53:08,200 --> 00:53:10,960
Speaker 1: they take the coaching that's been given to them? Uh,

1093
00:53:11,080 --> 00:53:13,960
Speaker 1: you know we talked about you know, the Cowboys coach

1094
00:53:14,040 --> 00:53:16,560
Speaker 1: is telling Braxton, you know, at the top of your route,

1095
00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:18,799
Speaker 1: don't be so chaotic, don't you know, take you too

1096
00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:21,839
Speaker 1: many steps? Okay, So let's see Braxon Miller tomorrow when

1097
00:53:21,880 --> 00:53:24,239
Speaker 1: he's you know, when one on one drills. How does

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00:53:24,280 --> 00:53:26,120
Speaker 1: he do at the top of his routes. Is he

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00:53:26,200 --> 00:53:28,440
Speaker 1: being a little more clean with his footwork? Is he

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00:53:28,520 --> 00:53:31,359
Speaker 1: really putting the time in taking that coaching and making

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00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:33,320
Speaker 1: the necessary adjustments. Now, it's not an easy thing to

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00:53:33,400 --> 00:53:35,680
Speaker 1: do so It's not like, you know, he's a he's

1103
00:53:35,680 --> 00:53:37,840
Speaker 1: a bad player if he doesn't make those adjustments tomorrow.

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00:53:38,160 --> 00:53:41,080
Speaker 1: But can he do it? Can he make those quick adjustments?

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00:53:41,320 --> 00:53:43,120
Speaker 1: We'll have to see and then, you know, Carson Wentz

1106
00:53:44,040 --> 00:53:47,080
Speaker 1: the bell of the ball, what we see from him tomorrow?

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00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:49,040
Speaker 1: I thought, you know, last two days have been good,

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00:53:49,840 --> 00:53:53,000
Speaker 1: can still show improvement on day three, So eager to

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00:53:53,040 --> 00:53:56,239
Speaker 1: see what he has for us. Dave no knock at

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00:53:56,239 --> 00:53:58,719
Speaker 1: all on Carson Wentz. I mean, I mean, he's he's

1111
00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:00,600
Speaker 1: like fifty percent of the reason and we're all here

1112
00:54:00,640 --> 00:54:02,759
Speaker 1: in the first place. But I feel like I have

1113
00:54:02,840 --> 00:54:05,279
Speaker 1: a very good grasp on all of the North quarterbacks.

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00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:08,360
Speaker 1: I feel like I haven't watched a lick of the

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00:54:08,440 --> 00:54:11,120
Speaker 1: South guys. I had not missing much for set dak

1116
00:54:11,560 --> 00:54:14,680
Speaker 1: Um specifically, I want to see those two, which it's

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00:54:14,719 --> 00:54:17,120
Speaker 1: disappointing to me that they're not doing better, but I

1118
00:54:17,239 --> 00:54:19,000
Speaker 1: still I want to check them out and see what

1119
00:54:19,040 --> 00:54:23,439
Speaker 1: they're all. Brandon Brandon Allen's another guy, which, uh, dude,

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00:54:23,600 --> 00:54:26,560
Speaker 1: throw the ball, stop talking like, don't like this isn't

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00:54:26,560 --> 00:54:28,640
Speaker 1: a real game. Don't run you know. I hate that

1122
00:54:29,320 --> 00:54:32,600
Speaker 1: he did it like four times today on that too. Yeah,

1123
00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:34,480
Speaker 1: like just throw the ball. That's what we want to

1124
00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:36,520
Speaker 1: see anyway, So I want to watch those guys a

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00:54:36,560 --> 00:54:39,320
Speaker 1: little bit more. And uh, and you know, I'll have

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00:54:39,360 --> 00:54:42,000
Speaker 1: an eye on Wins because he's Yeah, tomorrow, tomorrow, what

1127
00:54:42,120 --> 00:54:44,600
Speaker 1: we'll do is we'll have in the morning. And by

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Speaker 1: the way, the North team practices at nine thirty, so

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00:54:47,640 --> 00:54:50,799
Speaker 1: we're back on a normal schedule. And uh, we're gonna

1130
00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:53,439
Speaker 1: show you a little bit tomorrow of some one on ones.

1131
00:54:53,520 --> 00:54:56,919
Speaker 1: We've been talking about some of these rushers. We're talking

1132
00:54:57,000 --> 00:55:02,080
Speaker 1: about Austin Johnson, We're talking about uh, you know Spence,

1133
00:55:02,200 --> 00:55:04,239
Speaker 1: guys like that. So you know, we're gonna give you

1134
00:55:04,280 --> 00:55:05,879
Speaker 1: a little bit of any well, he's on the south

1135
00:55:05,920 --> 00:55:12,120
Speaker 1: excuse me, ba ya ya the tackle exactly. So we'll

1136
00:55:12,160 --> 00:55:13,520
Speaker 1: give you a little bit of one on one with

1137
00:55:13,640 --> 00:55:16,080
Speaker 1: the offense and defensive line tomorrow from the North team,

1138
00:55:16,120 --> 00:55:18,080
Speaker 1: just to just to show you what these guys can do.

1139
00:55:18,640 --> 00:55:26,160
Speaker 1: I'm interested tomorrow and and ken these defensive backs, especially

1140
00:55:26,280 --> 00:55:29,320
Speaker 1: on the North side, can they continue the momentum that

1141
00:55:29,400 --> 00:55:33,040
Speaker 1: they had today? And I thought that, uh that they

1142
00:55:33,680 --> 00:55:36,960
Speaker 1: as a group played very well. You know, I liked

1143
00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:39,000
Speaker 1: what I saw from the corners I like, I want

1144
00:55:39,040 --> 00:55:42,319
Speaker 1: to see some more of Kennidy. I want to see

1145
00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:45,000
Speaker 1: him played in some safety tomorrow. If they're if they're

1146
00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:47,600
Speaker 1: gonna move some guys around just to get some looks,

1147
00:55:48,080 --> 00:55:49,799
Speaker 1: I'm all for that. I think that's the great thing

1148
00:55:49,840 --> 00:55:52,640
Speaker 1: about scouting is when you in your mind you have

1149
00:55:52,800 --> 00:55:56,839
Speaker 1: a projection, like man, that guy Fuller from Virginia Tech,

1150
00:55:56,880 --> 00:56:00,360
Speaker 1: I would like to see him play safety, the older Fuller,

1151
00:56:00,520 --> 00:56:03,560
Speaker 1: the one that came out. He's the Bears, the fourth

1152
00:56:04,280 --> 00:56:06,799
Speaker 1: he'll be the fourth Fuller brother to be drafted. Holy cow,

1153
00:56:06,960 --> 00:56:10,560
Speaker 1: the Virginia Tech guys, all Virginia Tech guys and mom

1154
00:56:10,640 --> 00:56:13,239
Speaker 1: and dad, you know, congratulations on the two of them

1155
00:56:13,280 --> 00:56:15,799
Speaker 1: in the league right now. Damn yeah. But but I'm

1156
00:56:15,880 --> 00:56:18,120
Speaker 1: interested to see if they can keep the momentum going

1157
00:56:18,280 --> 00:56:21,800
Speaker 1: or we will see some adjustments from the wide receivers.

1158
00:56:21,880 --> 00:56:24,839
Speaker 1: Will will some guys step up and make some play.

1159
00:56:24,880 --> 00:56:29,120
Speaker 1: We talk about Peyton, the UCLA kid, Burbridge, you know

1160
00:56:29,160 --> 00:56:31,000
Speaker 1: those guys. I mean, they're gonna be watching that tape

1161
00:56:31,040 --> 00:56:34,360
Speaker 1: tonight and they got their rears kicked pretty well. And

1162
00:56:34,520 --> 00:56:36,920
Speaker 1: so and I know knowing Derek Dooley, like we we

1163
00:56:37,080 --> 00:56:38,880
Speaker 1: know Derek Dooley he's not going to stand for that.

1164
00:56:39,560 --> 00:56:41,480
Speaker 1: So I'm just interested to see if we see a

1165
00:56:41,600 --> 00:56:43,800
Speaker 1: different group of wide receivers. We we don't seem to

1166
00:56:43,800 --> 00:56:47,640
Speaker 1: be too excited about Chris Moore from Cincinnati, a guy

1167
00:56:47,680 --> 00:56:49,640
Speaker 1: we haven't talked about much, but I thought he's been okay.

1168
00:56:49,760 --> 00:56:52,600
Speaker 1: I mean, he doesn't have the name, you know, the notoriety,

1169
00:56:53,320 --> 00:56:55,359
Speaker 1: but I do think Chris Moore has done okay as

1170
00:56:55,360 --> 00:56:57,600
Speaker 1: one of these receivers on the North squad, so um,

1171
00:56:57,760 --> 00:56:59,640
Speaker 1: you know, I think he can continue to help himself

1172
00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:03,160
Speaker 1: as you know, who's the best receiver besides Braxton Miller

1173
00:57:03,200 --> 00:57:05,760
Speaker 1: on this North squad. Yeah, it's it's gonna be funny

1174
00:57:05,800 --> 00:57:07,840
Speaker 1: because I believe there's gonna be some guys that probably

1175
00:57:07,920 --> 00:57:10,320
Speaker 1: didn't practice very well all week, and all of a

1176
00:57:10,320 --> 00:57:12,279
Speaker 1: sudden we get to the game and it's like, huh,

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00:57:12,560 --> 00:57:14,880
Speaker 1: where did that come up? And maybe we were laughing

1178
00:57:14,960 --> 00:57:17,480
Speaker 1: at thet during the break about Kevin Hogan, you know,

1179
00:57:17,600 --> 00:57:20,120
Speaker 1: in the big wind up and all that crazy stuff,

1180
00:57:20,120 --> 00:57:23,600
Speaker 1: and maybe Kevin Hogan's a gamer. You know, that's say

1181
00:57:23,800 --> 00:57:27,520
Speaker 1: this guy somebody at some local TV guy was interviewing

1182
00:57:27,600 --> 00:57:29,960
Speaker 1: Mike Mayock after practice and was like, you know what

1183
00:57:30,360 --> 00:57:32,320
Speaker 1: when does it hit these guys like is it the

1184
00:57:32,400 --> 00:57:34,680
Speaker 1: first practice, the first meeting that like you know this

1185
00:57:34,880 --> 00:57:37,360
Speaker 1: is this is the real deal. But in Mayok's like

1186
00:57:37,440 --> 00:57:39,200
Speaker 1: if they didn't know that when they got off the plane,

1187
00:57:39,240 --> 00:57:41,760
Speaker 1: they're in deep crap. So yeah, well, and I think

1188
00:57:41,800 --> 00:57:43,800
Speaker 1: one thing we also have to remember too is you know,

1189
00:57:43,840 --> 00:57:47,080
Speaker 1: these practices are great, a great chance to you know,

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00:57:47,520 --> 00:57:50,520
Speaker 1: see these players up up close and personal. But all

1191
00:57:50,600 --> 00:57:53,520
Speaker 1: these players have three four years of tape out there, right,

1192
00:57:53,600 --> 00:57:57,000
Speaker 1: and so I think that's more of the resume than

1193
00:57:57,080 --> 00:58:00,160
Speaker 1: this week. Now, this week's very important, but so is

1194
00:58:00,200 --> 00:58:02,400
Speaker 1: the tape. So it's not like one cancels out the other.

1195
00:58:02,480 --> 00:58:04,800
Speaker 1: So even if players haven't a so so week and

1196
00:58:04,920 --> 00:58:07,680
Speaker 1: not so great week, you know, strong tape can still

1197
00:58:07,720 --> 00:58:09,840
Speaker 1: help you. Well, there's back in the day and that

1198
00:58:10,000 --> 00:58:12,240
Speaker 1: I go way back in the day was when Al

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00:58:12,400 --> 00:58:16,439
Speaker 1: Davis was was alive and running the Raiders. He would

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00:58:16,520 --> 00:58:19,120
Speaker 1: draft guys off Senior Bowl. I mean that that they

1201
00:58:19,160 --> 00:58:22,680
Speaker 1: were if you were like a star, Yeah, combine Senior Bowl.

1202
00:58:22,680 --> 00:58:25,720
Speaker 1: If you were a star in those games, al Davis

1203
00:58:25,840 --> 00:58:27,760
Speaker 1: was likely to be drafting you. So it's funny I

1204
00:58:27,880 --> 00:58:31,800
Speaker 1: ran into Reggie Mackenzie today. The gym for the Yeah

1205
00:58:31,800 --> 00:58:34,360
Speaker 1: Bolger kid and you have to be careful brothers. Yeah,

1206
00:58:34,480 --> 00:58:37,600
Speaker 1: luck Yeah, but it ran into old hogshead cheese and

1207
00:58:37,640 --> 00:58:40,640
Speaker 1: I told him, I said, I said, hey, I said, uh,

1208
00:58:41,080 --> 00:58:44,080
Speaker 1: you know, you know the old man he would be taking.

1209
00:58:44,200 --> 00:58:46,640
Speaker 1: I started naming off all these guys. He's like, yeah,

1210
00:58:46,760 --> 00:58:50,160
Speaker 1: he sure would have. So yeah, it said. It is important.

1211
00:58:50,160 --> 00:58:51,680
Speaker 1: It's one of the it's part of the tool. And

1212
00:58:51,840 --> 00:58:54,280
Speaker 1: again I applaud all the kids that are here playing

1213
00:58:54,360 --> 00:58:57,840
Speaker 1: in this because either either good bad, they are getting

1214
00:58:57,880 --> 00:59:00,640
Speaker 1: the exposure that has allowing us to talk about it.

1215
00:59:00,720 --> 00:59:02,960
Speaker 1: And one thing I remember too, this is the last

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00:59:03,040 --> 00:59:06,520
Speaker 1: time we will see these players in pads. Right before

1217
00:59:06,560 --> 00:59:09,960
Speaker 1: the draft, before the draft, the combine pro days, we

1218
00:59:10,040 --> 00:59:12,480
Speaker 1: will not see any of these players and past. That's

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00:59:12,480 --> 00:59:15,360
Speaker 1: why I love and that's why it's important, and that's

1220
00:59:15,440 --> 00:59:17,480
Speaker 1: why you know, tomorrow, you know, we need to pay

1221
00:59:17,480 --> 00:59:19,400
Speaker 1: attention to the last time we'll see these guys and

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00:59:19,440 --> 00:59:21,840
Speaker 1: pads the rest of the way. Yeah. Absolutely, Okay, Well

1223
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Speaker 1: that will do it for the Draft show. Thanks again

1224
00:59:24,440 --> 00:59:27,480
Speaker 1: for all you folks out there that to watch us,

1225
00:59:27,520 --> 00:59:29,800
Speaker 1: whether you watch us live or watch us later when

1226
00:59:29,840 --> 00:59:32,800
Speaker 1: you're working out, or podcast whatever you do. We do

1227
00:59:32,920 --> 00:59:35,920
Speaker 1: appreciate it, We really really do. And uh, I want

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00:59:35,960 --> 00:59:38,800
Speaker 1: to thank Dave David Hellman for all his work this

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00:59:38,920 --> 00:59:42,080
Speaker 1: week so far, and then Dame Burglar for his expertise.

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Speaker 1: I'm Brian Brass for Kent Garrison Executive Proves. Thanks again

1231
00:59:45,760 --> 00:59:49,120
Speaker 1: for joining us. We will see you tomorrow night, six thirty.

1232
00:59:49,160 --> 00:59:51,600
Speaker 1: Make sure you're falling along on Dallas Cowboys dot com.

1233
00:59:51,680 --> 00:59:54,560
Speaker 1: We've got some really good videos up. Jerry Jones talked

1234
00:59:54,600 --> 00:59:56,480
Speaker 1: a little bit about the draft today, checked it out,

1235
00:59:56,520 --> 00:59:58,520
Speaker 1: but make sure you go to the site, check all

1236
00:59:58,600 --> 01:00:00,280
Speaker 1: that workout. Makes sure you go to see us and

1237
01:00:00,360 --> 01:00:03,560
Speaker 1: taking someone look at Dane's work as well. So again

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Speaker 1: for the crew, we'll see you tomorrow night. Thank you,