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Speaker 1: This is Straight Fire with Jason McIntyre.

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Speaker 2: What is up? Straight Fire Family, It's me Jason McIntyre.

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Speaker 2: Straight Fire for Thursday, March twenty seventh. It's Sweet sixteen day,

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Speaker 2: Ladies and gentlemen today and Maniana Sweet sixteen. I'm very

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Speaker 2: fired up, as you know. We've talked about it all

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Speaker 2: week and to celebrate the Sweet sixteen, a special guest,

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Speaker 2: my main man, Jay billis former duke player, current ESPN analyst.

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Speaker 2: He has done the Biggies Tournament, the a SEC Tournament,

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Speaker 2: the SEC Tournament this year. He's done everything. Ja billis outstanding.

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Speaker 2: I've known him for a while. I texted my buddy

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Speaker 2: in Arizona about this, and you know, I sent him

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Speaker 2: the video because then we're posting him on YouTube. He

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Speaker 2: kind of dresses them up and I pay him because

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Speaker 2: he's talented, and he's like, you got Jay Billis in

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Speaker 2: all caps. I was like, dude, I've known Billis for

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Speaker 2: like fifteen years now. He's a nice guy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I just and I'm not like flexing that I text him.

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Speaker 2: He just is a good dude. He's normal. I got

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Speaker 2: to spend a day with him at the Big East

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Speaker 2: Tournament way back. This must have been g'z two thousand

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Speaker 2: and ten, I don't know, eleven, something like that. Him

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Speaker 2: and Raftery walking from the bill you know, they had

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Speaker 2: their pregame meeting and then we'd walk over to the

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Speaker 2: shoot around and walking in the streets with Billison Raftery

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Speaker 2: was hilarious because everybody's, oh my gosh, Pello's raftory onions,

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Speaker 2: just screaming stuff. It was hilarious. It was a great day. Anyways,

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Speaker 2: you guys will enjoy that. Before we get to j Bill,

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Speaker 2: it's just a couple of quick words as there were,

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Speaker 2: shall we say a few things that went down a

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Speaker 2: few things on the NBA front on Wednesday. Okay, now listen,

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Speaker 2: you guys, don't I like Lebron. I feel like he's

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Speaker 2: a goat. I think the goat discussion ended when he

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Speaker 2: went to the Lakers and won his third title or sorry,

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Speaker 2: he won a championship with a third different team. That's

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Speaker 2: just unbelievable. Everywhere he goes he's competing and winning championships

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Speaker 2: is incredible. I have him as the goat. It's fine,

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Speaker 2: you don't. That's that's cool too. I get it. I'm

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Speaker 2: a big Lebron guy. I thought a lot of what

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Speaker 2: he said he went on. So the Lakers were in

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Speaker 2: Indiana yesterday and he took the opportunity to go on

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Speaker 2: Pat McAfee show, and best I can tell, it wasn't

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Speaker 2: when the TV show was on, but it was like

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Speaker 2: I guess, like in the extra hour they're online, so

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Speaker 2: you know, you can say bad words and stuff, and

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Speaker 2: some of the video because I saw Lebron was cursing,

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Speaker 2: which is whatever, but it was kind of no holds barred.

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Speaker 2: He went after a lot of people, I namely Stephen A. Smith,

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Speaker 2: which some of that stuff was hilarious. I'll be honest,

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Speaker 2: you know, listen, unlike a lot of dopes in this

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Speaker 2: country who are like, I'm with this guy. He does

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Speaker 2: no wrong, He's perfect. Blah blah blah. Listen, I call

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Speaker 2: it like I see it. Okay, I like Lebron a lot.

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Speaker 2: I thought what he said about Windhors was out of pocket.

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Speaker 2: And I challenge anyone if Windhors has ever said he's

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Speaker 2: Lebron's best friend or any nonsense close to that. Show

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Speaker 2: me the clip.

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Speaker 3: Listen.

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Speaker 2: I consume him a lot of Windhorse content. I feel

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Speaker 2: like I don't mind pulling back the curtain, but I

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Speaker 2: feel I only listen to two guys talk about the NBA.

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Speaker 2: That's it. That's it. It's Windhorst and Zachlo, and Zachlo

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Speaker 2: doesn't do it anymore. So I listen to Brian Windhorse podcast.

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Speaker 2: That's it. If he writes something, I read it. He's

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Speaker 2: plugged in. He doesn't reveal everything he has. You know,

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Speaker 2: Shams is great, but all he's just a news guy,

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Speaker 2: a middleman. They tell him the news that he puts

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Speaker 2: it out there, which is great. You know, you've got

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Speaker 2: to be connected to get that. But I don't feel

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Speaker 2: like I get any deep penetrating analysis from him. And

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Speaker 2: he's got to be careful what he says because he

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Speaker 2: wants to break the news. So you know, Windhors is

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Speaker 2: in a totally different boat. And I know Bill Simmons

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Speaker 2: and does good stuff, I'm sure, and Roussillo, I just

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Speaker 2: you know, I feel like I give me Windhorst, you know,

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Speaker 2: so I consume all Windhorse stuff. And yes, he's been

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Speaker 2: around Lebron for twenty five plus years, covering from in

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Speaker 2: high school. Obviously two things can be true. One he

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Speaker 2: does didn't know the real Lebron, And I would say,

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Speaker 2: unless you're in Lebron's inner circle. You don't know the

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Speaker 2: real Lebron. And even then it's like, do you really

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Speaker 2: know him? Okay, Like people have probably known Lebron for

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Speaker 2: twenty five years, I would say they know Lebron. So

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Speaker 2: Windhorse knows Lebron, but he doesn't really know him. Does

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Speaker 2: that make sense? And at the same time, he knows

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Speaker 2: Lebron better than I would say any other journalist because

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Speaker 2: he's been around him and in his orbit and covering

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Speaker 2: him and his crew, his manager, everything about him. He's

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Speaker 2: been around him for twenty five years. Of course he

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Speaker 2: knows Lebron. Well, that's undeniable. Is Lebron probably irked about

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Speaker 2: some of the stuff he says? Sure? Is he probably

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Speaker 2: wrong on some stuff?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Who's right about everything?

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Speaker 1: Guys?

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Speaker 2: Chef Terra ain't right about everything. He covers the NFL

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Speaker 2: as closely as anybody. Rappaport's not right about everything. Come on,

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Speaker 2: Woach is my guy? He was never right about nobody's

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Speaker 2: ever right about everything. So I just thought it was

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Speaker 2: out of pocket for him to go after Windhorse where

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Speaker 2: it gets interesting now, I didn't put this on social

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Speaker 2: med because I don't want to get involved in that nonsense.

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Speaker 2: But step back. Stop laughing at Lebron's comments about steven

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Speaker 2: A and all this stuff, and oh, do you have

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Speaker 2: a relationship with Jordan? Just step back from all that.

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Speaker 2: I can't remember the last time Lebron went on anything

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Speaker 2: associated with the Worldwide Leader, can you? Hm? Lebron not

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Speaker 2: only went on ESPN, but he then unloaded on a

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Speaker 2: couple people who are ESPN employees. That's unheard of. Why

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Speaker 2: would that happen? I do insert your Windhorse meme here.

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Speaker 2: It was almost as if somebody had a couple scores

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Speaker 2: to settle and decided, you know, I don't want to

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Speaker 2: be the guy taking shots at these guys. Let me

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Speaker 2: let Lebron do it. Hey, Lebron, you're in town, You're

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Speaker 2: in Indiana. Come on, Bro, come on over to the show,

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Speaker 2: so say whatever you want. We know McAfee and steven A.

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Speaker 2: Smith don't have a good relationship. That blew out. I

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Speaker 2: didn't know if him and Windhorse had beef, but we

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Speaker 2: know mcavi's planted his flag with another ESPN guy who

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Speaker 2: covers the NBA. And like I'm just saying, it was

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Speaker 2: very strange to see on ESPN airwaves the most popular

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Speaker 2: let me say, let me rephrase that in America. On

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Speaker 2: the planet it's messy. But the most popular athlete in

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Speaker 2: America going on ESPN airwaves and bashing the hell out

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Speaker 2: of ESPN employees. That doesn't happen by accident. Okay. I

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Speaker 2: think somebody had some scores to settle and he used

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Speaker 2: not going to get into this online with anybody. It

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Speaker 2: just felt very strange that it all went down, And

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Speaker 2: again I thought, you know, I thought it was interesting

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Speaker 2: for sure. I consumed the clips that I saw online.

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Speaker 2: I didn't you watch the full thing. But and then

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Speaker 2: Lebron went out and had pretty much a bad game

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Speaker 2: till the final seconds when he tipped in a Luca

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Speaker 2: the Lakers stole a one point win over the Pacers.

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Speaker 2: Lakers did not cover in the first quarter because they

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Speaker 2: nice to have Ruy Hachimoa back four threes during Phinny

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Speaker 2: Smith played well. Lebron did not. I wonder if he

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Speaker 2: was in his head after just absolutely shit posting everyone

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Speaker 2: at ESPN. I thought that was interesting. Luca thirty four points,

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Speaker 2: seven boards, seven assists. I mean, it was a master

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Speaker 2: they They're not gonna play anybody, right, because guess what,

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Speaker 2: they have a massive game Saturday night in Memphis. The

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Speaker 2: Grizzlies are currently tied with the Lakers for the fourth spot.

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Speaker 2: That fourth spot would mean home court advantage, and the

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Speaker 2: winner of that would then face Okac. I'm telling you

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Speaker 2: back of Denver, who got Jokic back last night and

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Speaker 2: Everybody wants that three seed. That is enormous. I think

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Speaker 2: the Lakers rest their horses against the Bulls because that

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Speaker 2: Memphis game is absolutely must win to date, probably the

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Speaker 2: biggest game of the season for the Lakers. Then they

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Speaker 2: get the then they get the Rockets Monday. I'm trying

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Speaker 2: that before we get to our guest, the Great Jabillis

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Speaker 1: everything when it comes to sports. I know what sports

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Speaker 2: Let's just say I know a guy who knows the

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Speaker 2: guy who knows another guy. All right, let's welcome back

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Speaker 2: to straight fire, first time in a couple of years.

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Speaker 2: He's so busy, you know, he's on TV all the time.

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Speaker 2: He's just a superstar when it comes to sports media.

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Speaker 2: A Duke legend, J billis j how are you man?

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Speaker 3: I don't know Duke legend. That's going to give you

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Speaker 3: some letters from people who actually accomplished something.

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Speaker 2: Come on, man, you were in the prime of Duke

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Speaker 2: when they were just building up the program back way

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Speaker 2: darn stacked Duke team. J I mean, this is about

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Speaker 2: as good as it gets. Huh.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. The thing that gets me Jason about Duke is

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Speaker 3: their length and depth. But they have incredible size, and

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Speaker 3: you know, look, when you have the best player in

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Speaker 3: the country and the presumptive number one pick in the draft,

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Speaker 3: that's that's plenty. But they got so much around him,

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Speaker 3: and they're not even one hundred percent without Malik Brown.

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Speaker 3: So if they ever get him back, you know, it's

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Speaker 3: going to be hard to imagine that. You know what

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Speaker 3: they can get beat by. You know, Houston can beat them.

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Speaker 3: their only near equal in my view.

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Speaker 2: Interesting, I want to turn back the clock real quick

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Speaker 2: on Duke. So I was looking to the last meeting

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Speaker 2: with Arizona and they had started Caleb Foster. I believe

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Speaker 2: not exactly sure what happened, but he's been supplanted in

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Speaker 3: I don't think it was anything other than one of

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Speaker 3: the transfers they brought in. Seon James, who was at Tulane,

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Speaker 3: more minutes, because he's got tremendous size and length and

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Speaker 2: Have you looked into this at all, because it sounds like,

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Speaker 2: you know, WOJ is obviously now at Saint Bonaventure and

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Speaker 2: it looks like they're hitting the portal pretty hard. What

429
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Speaker 2: do you make of all this?

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Speaker 3: Well, it is true that there are schools out there,

431
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Speaker 3: Big East schools, A ten, some others that don't have

432
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Speaker 3: big time football. So football is going to take of

433
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Speaker 3: the revenue sharing money and it can be up to

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Speaker 3: like I think it's twenty two percent of revenue whatever.

435
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Speaker 3: So we're talking like twenty two million dollars give or

436
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Speaker 3: take that that schools can have available for revenue share

437
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Speaker 3: given their budgets. So the Lion's share of that is

438
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Speaker 3: going to go to football, and that's fine. They can

439
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Speaker 3: do it however they want. If they want to have

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Speaker 3: a better basketball program and they're willing to do football

441
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Speaker 3: for less, go ahead. Yeah, I don't have any problem

442
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Speaker 3: with whatever they do. But they'll figure out a way

443
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Speaker 3: to pay these players, like either through collectives or whatever.

444
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Speaker 3: It's not going to stop at whatever this settlement revenue

445
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Speaker 3: number is. It's just not And what was it, Jason

446
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Speaker 3: five years ago, everybody was saying, Hey, where's the money

447
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Speaker 3: going to come from. We're not going to be able

448
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Speaker 3: to pay we can't do things going to be It

449
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Speaker 3: shows they want to have good teams, they want to

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Speaker 3: be competitive, and they're willing to put their money where

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Speaker 3: their mouth is on on athletes the most, with all

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Speaker 3: due respect to staff, and they're they're sort of their

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Speaker 3: athletic department. The most important thing in winning is the

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Speaker 3: players on the field or on the court. That's the

455
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Speaker 3: most important thing. And what we're going to see in

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Speaker 3: the future is whatever the numbers are these these athletic

457
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Speaker 3: departments are going to lean up and they're going to

458
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Speaker 3: start putting their resources where it matters, and that's going

459
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Speaker 3: to be on the field and on the court. And

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Speaker 3: coaches are still going to make a lot of money.

461
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Speaker 3: They may not make as much as they would have otherwise.

462
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Speaker 3: You know, we're going to start seeing they're going to go,

463
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Speaker 3: we don't need to pay you as much. We got

464
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Speaker 3: to you know, we got to pay Cooper Flag. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: you know we got we we have right now before

466
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Speaker 3: like all this stuff came in with revenue sharing, just

467
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Speaker 3: that discussion. I mean, you had strength coaches for football

468
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Speaker 3: teams making over a million dollars a year. Really, you know,

469
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Speaker 3: I'll do it for half that and tell hey, lift

470
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Speaker 3: that weight. You know, it's I don't mean to take

471
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Speaker 3: I don't mean to take away from what they do.

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Speaker 3: That's a serious job. But come on, man, like you

473
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Speaker 3: don't need to be doing that. They had the money

474
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Speaker 3: and they did it, and they're not going to keep

475
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Speaker 3: doing that to that level. They're going to start getting

476
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Speaker 3: more reasonable with what they pay people in those positions

477
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Speaker 3: and how many people they have, and they'll really get

478
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Speaker 3: reasonable when private equity whenever they take the private equity

479
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Speaker 3: money because private equity is going to come in and say, look,

480
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Speaker 3: now you're messing with our revenue stream. You don't need

481
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Speaker 3: all these people like the There are twice as many

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Speaker 3: suits in the team picture as there are people in uniform.

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Speaker 3: You don't need that. Let's start. Let's start doing this

484
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Speaker 3: in an efficient manner that's going to happen.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's drill down on the games real quick.

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Speaker 2: So let's just do a quick game. We got to

491
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Speaker 2: pick an upset or two in the Sweet sixteen. I'll

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Speaker 2: let you go first. Card is yours simply by point spread?

493
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Speaker 2: Is there an underdog you like in the Sweet sixteen

494
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Speaker 2: to win out right?

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Speaker 3: I like Ole Miss, uh, Michigan. I'm not saying it's

496
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Speaker 3: going to happen, but I would not be surprised the

497
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Speaker 3: Ole Miss win because they're they're good, and they've played

498
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Speaker 3: teams like Michigan State throughout the year. Michigan State doesn't

499
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Speaker 3: shoot it great, but they do other things really really well.

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Speaker 3: And if they do shoot it, which they're capable of,

501
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Speaker 3: that makes them doubly hard to beat. But ole Miss

502
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Speaker 3: doesn't turn it over very often. The one thing they

503
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Speaker 3: don't do consistently that Michigan State does is Ole Miss

504
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Speaker 3: doesn't rebound at the same level that Michigan State does.

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Speaker 3: But they they're athletic, they defend, and they have seen

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Speaker 3: teams as good as Michigan State a lot in the

507
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Speaker 3: Southeastern Conference. They're not going to be They're not going

508
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Speaker 3: to sweat that. And then their their point guard, Sean

509
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Speaker 3: Padula has played really well. He's at forty points his

510
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Speaker 3: first two games. You played really efficiently, So I wouldn't

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Speaker 3: be surprised to see an upset there. You know, I

512
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Speaker 3: don't see one in you know, the Houston Purdue game

513
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Speaker 3: or I think the best game, the most entertaining game

514
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Speaker 3: is going to be by U Alabama.

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Speaker 2: Oh that was my pick. Yeah, well wait, let me

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Speaker 2: back up just real quick. So you mentioned Houston Purdue.

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Speaker 2: You know, you've played a lot of games, You've been

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Speaker 2: in a lot of arenas Purdue is going to be

519
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Speaker 2: playing in Indianapolis. Is that a big edge?

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Speaker 1: No edge?

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Speaker 2: What do you make of that? Because I know it's

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Speaker 2: a football stadium Lucas Oil. I haven't been in Lucas

523
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Speaker 2: Oil when it's been configured for basketball, but Houston's already

524
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Speaker 2: occasionally a spotty shooting team from three with Crier and Milos.

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Speaker 2: Any thoughts on that one.

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Speaker 3: I don't think it's going to be that big of

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Speaker 3: a deal. I think it's helpful to Purdue to feel comfortable,

528
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Speaker 3: and they're certainly going to have more fans in there

529
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Speaker 3: because of the proximity. It's only, you know, ninety minutes

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Speaker 3: or so one hundred miles to West Lafayette from Indy,

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Speaker 3: So I think it's going to be helpful. I don't

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Speaker 3: think it's going to carry the day given the strength

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Speaker 3: and athleticism that Houston brings to the table, and I

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Speaker 3: think you just identified it with the shooting, like Houston

535
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Speaker 3: is just as good defensively and on the glass as

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Speaker 3: they've been in the last several years. I think they

537
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Speaker 3: were final four last team last year, absent Jamal Shed

538
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Speaker 3: getting hurt against Duke. If he didn't get hurt, I

539
00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:22,240
Speaker 3: think they were in the final four beating you know,

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Speaker 3: they would have beat Duke, They would have beat NC

541
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Speaker 3: State in my view, But this year, you know, having

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Speaker 3: l J. Pryor, I mean, he just had thirty and

543
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Speaker 3: I think he's the only player in NCAA history've scored

544
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Speaker 3: thirty points in an NCAA tournament game for two different teams.

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Speaker 3: He did it for Banter and now he's done it

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Speaker 3: for Houston. And Emmanuel Sharp is another long range bucket getter,

547
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Speaker 3: and Milos Uzan has really helped at the point because

548
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Speaker 3: he can score and distribute. So I think they're legit.

549
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Speaker 3: Can they get beat yeah, but I don't think they will.

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Speaker 2: So you mentioned Alabama, b YU, Obviously it's going to

551
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Speaker 2: be a high scoring, off defensive game for whatever reason.

552
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Speaker 2: And again, I know Alabama went to the Final four

553
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Speaker 2: last year, but Nate Oates has had a couple clunkers

554
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Speaker 2: in the sweet sixteen and a lot of factors are

555
00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:11,880
Speaker 2: playing those games. But if anything, it feels like they've

556
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Speaker 2: been leaking will in my opinion for the last month.

557
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Speaker 2: And I don't I like this b YU squad. They

558
00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:20,320
Speaker 2: almost choked it away against Wisconsin, but I don't know.

559
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Speaker 2: Can they win out right?

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Speaker 3: You think b YU? Yeah, oh yeah they can because

561
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Speaker 3: they could really score and uh and they play fast

562
00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:29,760
Speaker 3: and there it's kind of a mirror image a little bit.

563
00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:34,840
Speaker 3: There's a there are minor differences in the offenses they run,

564
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Speaker 3: but they basically both want to get it down the

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Speaker 3: floor and shoot it pretty quick. You know, Nate Oates

566
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Speaker 3: wants to get it down the floor and shoot it

567
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Speaker 3: quick because the more passes they make and more chances

568
00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:47,400
Speaker 3: they have to turn it over. I'd rather he'd rather

569
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Speaker 3: get a shot than a turnover. But the only the

570
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Speaker 3: only thing, Like I hear what you're saying. I do

571
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Speaker 3: think they've had some issues over the past several games.

572
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Speaker 3: But but I kind of look at their schedule like

573
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Speaker 3: I did their They lost to Florida one of the

574
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Speaker 3: last games of the regular season in Tuscaloosa, but they

575
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Speaker 3: played well enough to beat ninety five percent of Division

576
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Speaker 3: One in that game. But they played Florida. Yeah, and

577
00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:13,360
Speaker 3: so and that that's probably true of a number of

578
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Speaker 3: the games they played down the stretch because their schedule

579
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Speaker 3: is backloaded. I think the last six games they played,

580
00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:24,200
Speaker 3: they played all teams ranked in the top twenty. Yeah,

581
00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:28,440
Speaker 3: anybody they played that wasn't ranked. And that's unprecedented. I've

582
00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:31,120
Speaker 3: never well, I shouldn't say un precedented, it's unprecedented for me,

583
00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:34,360
Speaker 3: I've never seen it before, and there was a lot

584
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Speaker 3: of kind of unprecedented that regard in that regard in

585
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Speaker 3: the league. But the one thing that like I don't

586
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Speaker 3: in all my years of basketball, one thing I've never

587
00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:45,760
Speaker 3: been able to figure out, predict or get a feel for,

588
00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:49,160
Speaker 3: is when a hot streak starts and won one ends.

589
00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:54,240
Speaker 3: So Mark Sears, even though he's been putting up decent numbers,

590
00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:56,440
Speaker 3: has not shot the ball well from three over his

591
00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:58,280
Speaker 3: last six games or so. I think he's five for

592
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Speaker 3: thirty five from three, and that's not him and I

593
00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:07,160
Speaker 3: just don't see that continuing. And now that Grant Nelson

594
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Speaker 3: appears to be healthy after that knee thing he had

595
00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:13,720
Speaker 3: in the SEC Tournament against Florida, they were down forty

596
00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:16,760
Speaker 3: seven forty five at halftime and he didn't play in

597
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Speaker 3: the second half and they got run. When he's in there,

598
00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:23,920
Speaker 3: they're different because he can drive it. He you know,

599
00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:27,120
Speaker 3: he's their best shot blocker, he's their best rebounder. He's

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Speaker 3: their kind of hard hat guy. You know, they have

601
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Speaker 3: this hard hat of work. He's kind of their hard

602
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Speaker 3: hat guy that does a lot of the dirty work

603
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Speaker 3: for him. So if he's healthy, I give them a

604
00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:40,160
Speaker 3: really good chance to win, And I think they can

605
00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:42,880
Speaker 3: give Duke a hard chance, a hard game just because

606
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Speaker 3: of the way they play and the teams they've played against, Like,

607
00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:48,040
Speaker 3: they can get up and down the floor, so they're

608
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Speaker 3: they're they're not going to grind it out against Duke's

609
00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:52,120
Speaker 3: half court defense. They're going to get it down and

610
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Speaker 3: shoot it. And they've got they've got athletes, and they

611
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Speaker 3: can make it tough on them.

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Speaker 2: Should I be worried? You mentioned Sears five for thirty five,

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Speaker 2: Maybe he'll regress of being a solid shooter. What about Proctor?

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Speaker 2: For Duke, he is on an unprecedent. I mean, shit,

615
00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:07,520
Speaker 2: missed like the last four games. But I think you

616
00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:09,280
Speaker 2: called the a SEC tournament. I think the first two

617
00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:10,480
Speaker 2: games he was like, oh for ten or.

618
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:12,760
Speaker 3: Something, Yeah, I did the SEC tournament. This is the

619
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Speaker 3: first time on SEC.

620
00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:14,440
Speaker 2: That's right, you did SEC.

621
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Speaker 3: Yeah, this was the first time in a long time.

622
00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:18,959
Speaker 3: I didn't do Dan Schulman and I didn't do the ACC.

623
00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:21,240
Speaker 3: I did the Big East for a long time, but

624
00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:22,960
Speaker 3: it's always been either the Big East Tournament of the

625
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:26,800
Speaker 3: ACC for me. So this was a you know, on

626
00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:29,480
Speaker 3: on one hand, he kind of felt jeez, I hate

627
00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:31,800
Speaker 3: to miss this. But on the other hand, you're watching

628
00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:34,840
Speaker 3: these SEC games going like, how could this be any better?

629
00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:36,920
Speaker 3: Uh So it's a little bit of an odd feeling.

630
00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:41,120
Speaker 3: But Proctor has had a great year. I didn't think

631
00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:43,680
Speaker 3: he had a good year last year for him. Uh

632
00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:46,160
Speaker 3: and and I think that got under his skin a

633
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:48,840
Speaker 3: little bit. And he's been much better this year. And

634
00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:51,760
Speaker 3: he's he's always been kind of a catch and shoot guy,

635
00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:54,760
Speaker 3: but this year the ball he hasn't had to worry

636
00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:57,760
Speaker 3: about ball handling responsibilities. Though he can rip and around

637
00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:00,280
Speaker 3: with the rebound it, he'll bring it up, but he

638
00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:02,760
Speaker 3: he's not responsible for the point guard stuff, so he

639
00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:06,120
Speaker 3: can just work off the ball. And I think the

640
00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:08,920
Speaker 3: last two games he's like thirteen for sixteen from three

641
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Speaker 3: and he's averaging twenty two. I mean, the last guy

642
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Speaker 3: I think to put up you know, Cooper Flags put

643
00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:18,360
Speaker 3: up some Grand Hill numbers across the board in the tournament,

644
00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:22,760
Speaker 3: but you know, this is beyond like thirteen for sixteen

645
00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:26,240
Speaker 3: from three. I don't care who they're playing. That's beyond

646
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Speaker 3: even JJ Reddick numbers for shooting.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll wrap up with this one. Tennessee, Kentucky it's

648
00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:37,000
Speaker 2: round three, Jay, and listen, I'm not trying to be

649
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Speaker 2: mean here, but Rick Barnes has had a history of

650
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:41,560
Speaker 2: struggles in March, and obviously a lot of factors that

651
00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:45,320
Speaker 2: play injuries, what have you. A lot of people are

652
00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:47,840
Speaker 2: making this whole argument. It's real tough to beat a

653
00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:50,640
Speaker 2: team three times. You know, I don't know if Kentucky

654
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:52,280
Speaker 2: can do it, But then you've got Rick Barnes on

655
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Speaker 2: the other side. And where do you standing on this game?

656
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Speaker 2: It feels like a genuine coin toss to me.

657
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Speaker 3: I think it is a coin toss. It's kind of confounding.

658
00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:04,240
Speaker 3: I did one of the games between Tennessee and Kentucky,

659
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Speaker 3: the one at rough and Kentucky had beaten Tennessee a

660
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Speaker 3: little bit earlier at Tennessee when if I remember right,

661
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Speaker 3: like Tennessee jacked up like forty two or forty three

662
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:19,800
Speaker 3: threes and a little bit uncharacteristic, but most of them

663
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:23,280
Speaker 3: were actually pretty good open shots. But what what was

664
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Speaker 3: surprising to me was that that Kentucky was able to

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Speaker 3: shoot in both those games. Kentucky shot fifty percent from

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Speaker 3: the field and three in each of the games. Nobody

667
00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:37,479
Speaker 3: else has done that to Tennessee all year long. Tennessee

668
00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:38,959
Speaker 3: is the number, you know, sort of the number one

669
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Speaker 3: field goal percentage defense in the country at like thirty

670
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Speaker 3: eight percent. And for Kentucky to do that, the one

671
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Speaker 3: thing that that Tennessee does that not like Auburn, is

672
00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:51,920
Speaker 3: different when they played Kentucky, Auburn will switch a lot

673
00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:54,840
Speaker 3: of stuff and Tennessee likes to stay with their own.

674
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Speaker 3: They switch on an emergency basis. But I do think

675
00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:02,600
Speaker 3: that that plays pretty well for Kentucky at times for

676
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:05,840
Speaker 3: running their offense. They can initiate offense all over the floor,

677
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:08,560
Speaker 3: in part because they're a big guy. Maray Williams are

678
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:13,800
Speaker 3: transferred in from Drexel, and it's just kind of stunning

679
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:16,200
Speaker 3: to me that they haven't been able to kind of

680
00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:18,920
Speaker 3: put the clamps on Kentucky's offense in those two games.

681
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Speaker 3: And if to me, if Tennessee, like I think they

682
00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:25,560
Speaker 3: can get good performances out of Chaslin Ear and Zekai

683
00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:28,239
Speaker 3: Ziggler and Jordan Gainey and all that, I think to

684
00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:30,160
Speaker 3: win they have to have their big guys play better,

685
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:33,000
Speaker 3: like Igor milichiit Junior and Felix ack Park. They have

686
00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:34,919
Speaker 3: put numbers on the board. They can't just get eight

687
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:37,360
Speaker 3: rebounds and four points or something. They got to do better.

688
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:41,520
Speaker 3: And they know those guys are like more screeners and

689
00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:44,560
Speaker 3: the kind of screener scorer action. But they've got to

690
00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:47,279
Speaker 3: be more aggressive, especially militic, because he can shoot it.

691
00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:49,719
Speaker 3: He can really stretch the floor as long as he

692
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:52,480
Speaker 3: stays out of foul trouble. He's another weapon out.

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Speaker 2: There as a coach. Do you know if you're on

694
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:56,080
Speaker 2: Rick Barnes staff and he's a guys, what do we

695
00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:59,120
Speaker 2: do different this time? Can you say, hey, we're switching

696
00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:01,279
Speaker 2: every screen. I know we haven't done that all year.

697
00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:04,080
Speaker 2: It's not in our DNA. We're doing that because let's see,

698
00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:06,399
Speaker 2: we've got to change something. Do you think that's something

699
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:07,240
Speaker 2: Barnes would consider?

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Speaker 3: I I maybe I doubt they'll change too much because

701
00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:14,720
Speaker 3: it's kind of this is who they are thing, oh boy,

702
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:17,600
Speaker 3: and they're they're they're good at it. Like Kentucky has

703
00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:19,799
Speaker 3: been the only team that's done this. It is not

704
00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:22,040
Speaker 3: like they haven't played really good teams. Like remember they

705
00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:26,960
Speaker 3: played they played Florida three three times, but the first

706
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:28,720
Speaker 3: two times they've played them, I mean, who could figure

707
00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:31,480
Speaker 3: those games out? Like Florida beat the brakes off them.

708
00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:34,920
Speaker 3: One time, they beat them by like thirty, Yes, and

709
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:38,480
Speaker 3: then Tennessee turns around shorthanded and beats them by twenty.

710
00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:39,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right.

711
00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:42,200
Speaker 3: Who could have who could have predicted? Like the unpredictability

712
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:45,799
Speaker 3: of that was was stunning to me. But it's not

713
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:48,040
Speaker 3: that I would change anything. I think they have to

714
00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:51,720
Speaker 3: score more efficiently, like, you know, obviously letting somebody shoot

715
00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:56,880
Speaker 3: fifty percent when you're that good defensively as bothersome. But

716
00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:59,680
Speaker 3: but I still think their their offense is a big

717
00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:02,280
Speaker 3: key to how they play. I think they played better

718
00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:04,080
Speaker 3: all of you know, most teams do you know, when

719
00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:06,560
Speaker 3: you're putting the ball to the basket, everything looks rosier.

720
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:10,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's almost that weapons. I think you're right. So

721
00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:12,920
Speaker 2: they shot three for eighteen against Kentucky from three in

722
00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:15,040
Speaker 2: the second meeting and the first one they were and

723
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:18,920
Speaker 2: this is stunning, eleven for forty five. Yeah, essentially Kentucky

724
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Speaker 2: saying take all the threes you want, we don't trust

725
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:21,960
Speaker 2: you as shooters were fine.

726
00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:26,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, and Kentucky's actually been really good defending

727
00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:29,920
Speaker 3: the three point line, like they've been better. Kentucky has

728
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:33,360
Speaker 3: been better over the last ten games or so defensively,

729
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:36,759
Speaker 3: like their defensive numbers are up kind of near the

730
00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:40,960
Speaker 3: top defense. They're not at the top defensive team level,

731
00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:43,799
Speaker 3: but they're getting closer to it. And that was not

732
00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:45,920
Speaker 3: true for a good part of the season. They were

733
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:48,600
Speaker 3: kind of easy to score on. They were just really

734
00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:52,759
Speaker 3: hard to stop. And they've been much better defensively. Part

735
00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:56,240
Speaker 3: of that Samari Williams has been a better rimp protector.

736
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Speaker 3: And then they have Lamont Butler getting healthier and he's

737
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:02,600
Speaker 3: at the point of attack, so that you know that

738
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Speaker 3: battle between him and Zechaiziegler is going to be really good.

739
00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:09,000
Speaker 3: But really, if you can slow down Chaslnier is the

740
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:11,760
Speaker 3: whole key. Like he's averaging twenty three twenty four points

741
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:15,040
Speaker 3: a game in the tournament at twenty nine in their

742
00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:18,160
Speaker 3: first game, and he can do that the only you know,

743
00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:21,480
Speaker 3: Rick has done a great job of finding these guys.

744
00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:24,839
Speaker 3: Like I saw Chaz airplay at North Florida. I didn't

745
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:27,399
Speaker 3: think he was as good, honestly, but I've seen I'd

746
00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:30,160
Speaker 3: seen Dalton connect at Northern Colorado. I didn't think he

747
00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:33,160
Speaker 3: was that good. Not that I didn't think he was

748
00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:36,040
Speaker 3: that good, but that I didn't think he was as

749
00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:37,600
Speaker 3: good as he was at Tennessee.

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Speaker 2: Like I didn't sec Player of the Year to see that.

751
00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:43,880
Speaker 3: Coming, top ten draft pick. All that, But the difference

752
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:48,680
Speaker 3: between Connect, like if if Lanier has nineteen points in

753
00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:53,400
Speaker 3: the first half and last year Dalton Connect at nineteen,

754
00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:58,040
Speaker 3: Dalton Connect wonted forty and Lanier wants to make the

755
00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:02,239
Speaker 3: right play like, no, man, go get forty. Yeah, you

756
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:04,960
Speaker 3: open things up for everybody else. And I think he's

757
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:07,319
Speaker 3: getting better at that, But I don't think it's it's

758
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:10,680
Speaker 3: a natural thing for him to, you know, look to

759
00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:14,640
Speaker 3: bury somebody and look to get forty. But he's got

760
00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:16,920
Speaker 3: he's gotten better at that. He's much more aggressive I

761
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:18,759
Speaker 3: think now than he was a month ago or two

762
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:19,160
Speaker 3: months ago.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure that was your mindset back in the day,

764
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:23,280
Speaker 2: right against never nervous Purvis and all those guys.

765
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Speaker 3: Mine was just to get through the forty minutes forty points.

766
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:30,520
Speaker 3: That was a forty points for me. It was a

767
00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:32,799
Speaker 3: four game stretch, all right.

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Speaker 2: The great J billis espn J continued success. Love your

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Speaker 2: work and keep up the great analysis.

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Speaker 3: But man, right back at you, thanks for having me