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Speaker 1: listening to Fox Sports Radio. Well, Steph Curry's been the

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Speaker 1: face of the NBA, or at least shared it feels like,

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Speaker 1: for fifteen years, and much like Wemby, it's ironic they

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Speaker 1: played last night. Much like Wemby is that when players

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Speaker 1: in the way you matched up. And when Steph Curry

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Speaker 1: came in, Michael Jordan was great, but we'd seen versions

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Speaker 1: Later Kobe was a version of Michael. There was no

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Speaker 1: dad could play a little del Curry, who's now the analyst,

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Speaker 1: Been a great year for that team. So, first of all,

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Speaker 1: congratulations we got video. Most games played second points. I

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Speaker 1: think people sometimes forget del Curry. I remember it well.

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Speaker 1: You were one of the first guys whose number one

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Speaker 1: shot was a long range jumper. But it's interesting, Dell.

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Speaker 1: Back when you were shooting him, sometimes you'd hear a

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Speaker 1: wasn't as accepted in your prime as it is today.

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Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, no doubt.

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Speaker 3: It was much more of a specialty kind of item

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Speaker 3: But I was a specialty guy. That's why I've played

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Speaker 2: And I look back at the film's sessions.

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Speaker 3: Of me playing, and back in everything was played inside

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, we take we take two, three, four,

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Speaker 3: And if you better hit a couple of them, or

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Speaker 1: That is funny. Uh, well, good for you. You got

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Speaker 1: you know. One of the things I've said a lot

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Speaker 1: I said, I can tell you has good parents. I

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Speaker 1: I've always said about Steph Curry is I don't need

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Speaker 1: but I said, they're there. When you're part of a dynasty,

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Speaker 1: truth behind the dynasty. Have there been moments, a week

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Speaker 3: Without a doubt. I think that comes with the territory.

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Speaker 2: You cannot you don't know what that's going to be.

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Speaker 1: It's interesting he couldn't have a more divergent personality from Draymon,

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Speaker 3: So it was something that like any relationship, it's gotta

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Speaker 2: You got to fill out each other.

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Speaker 3: And find out what what what's.

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Speaker 2: The makeup of each person.

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Speaker 3: But every I think every championship team has those two

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Speaker 1: I always say, a beautiful, aesthetically beautiful team has got

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Speaker 1: sure everybody knows, don't mess around in here, don't touch

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Speaker 1: You come into the NFL. You're kind of ready to

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Speaker 1: of these guys con kinnipple For you, guys, you're like,

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Speaker 5: This fast? Like it's crazy.

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Speaker 1: Some guys come into this league and you just can't

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Speaker 3: He's such a mature He's one of the most mature

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Speaker 3: Monte Ellis Ken coming into the Hornet's totally different locker room.

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Speaker 3: He sets the tone as a rookie. It's a lot

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Speaker 3: to set the tone. But he's such a mature guy.

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Speaker 3: He is so focused on his task. That's all he's

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Speaker 2: Low maintenance.

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Speaker 3: He has a skill set that's beyond rookies. Not only

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Speaker 3: just shoot the basketball. He'll have nice where he doesn't

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Speaker 3: other areas. He can rebound the basketball. He's very underrated,

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Speaker 3: defensively playmaker. He'll mix it up if he has two

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Speaker 2: Well that that go along with him. So Jeff Peters

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Speaker 3: When you can, you can, you know, kind of tell

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Speaker 3: the guy has talent, but you really don't know what

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Speaker 2: Yep. But this guy's this guy is beyond anything anybody

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Speaker 1: Okay, so I'm gonna throw something matcha. I I like

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Speaker 1: the mid range game. You can shoot him, your son

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Speaker 1: this out. I've said before, I think thirty three is

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Speaker 1: a game, is fine. Eighty eight is repetitive and homogeneous.

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Speaker 1: My theory has always been I like collisions at the rim.

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Speaker 1: So it's just too many guards getting past defenders going

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Speaker 1: and it's like, you got to have a league where

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Speaker 1: Roy Hibbert can play good guy. I want a league

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Speaker 1: that Roy can play get rid of the corner three. Okay,

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Speaker 1: that wouldn't be good for Steph. So you probably hate this, don't.

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Speaker 2: You absolutely hate it? I think you have to adapt

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Speaker 3: You have to have a guy that a center position

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Speaker 3: that can do his best staying in front of those guards.

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Speaker 2: We have one on the horse right now.

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Speaker 3: I'll tell you what in Musa Debt does a great

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Speaker 3: job for seeing Mobley right here. You got to have

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Speaker 3: big guys to do that. You have to adapt. That's

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Speaker 3: fine guys. That's to to help your team, treat your team.

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Speaker 3: You know, you're not gonna get rid of the corner three.

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Speaker 3: I like your idea of collisions at the rim. That's

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Speaker 3: been lost. But you have to have big guys now

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Speaker 3: that could shoot the three, but do their best at

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Speaker 3: is ingredients in winning, and the corner three is gonna

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Speaker 5: to adapt. I like what I like me too, me too, Okay.

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Speaker 1: Weimby I said this earlier. Is that I mean they

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Speaker 1: call him the alien in the league.

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Speaker 5: It's you.

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Speaker 1: I hear people say this all the time. I watch them,

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Speaker 1: but I've never seen him in person.

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Speaker 1: It's like when you see him in person, you're like,

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Speaker 3: I couldn't believe it, but I was looking had so

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Speaker 2: You know, I played this game like my boys.

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Speaker 5: That you're great. But I just looked at this.

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Speaker 1: The Hornets in nineteen ninety three with one Del Curry shot, eleven.

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Speaker 5: Three is a game.

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Speaker 1: This year they're averaging forty three.

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Speaker 5: Oh wow, the wild world we live in.

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Speaker 3: Now they're averaging sixteen makes a game, you know, so Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Man. I'm not one of these old guys. That's gonna say.

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Speaker 2: I wish I was.

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Speaker 3: Playing back today, but I think my game would fit

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Speaker 2: It's entertaining.

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Speaker 3: The league is a lot of good young players.

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Speaker 5: Yeah. Great, great seeing you again.

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Speaker 2: Congrats, thanks all, thanks for having me.

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Speaker 5: Del Curry.

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Speaker 1: What a good guy, What a neat family, What a

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Speaker 1: I gotta start. I got You know, j Mac, you

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Speaker 7: Same deal. So if you want to play golf, you

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Speaker 7: know we can do that. Best ball. Whatever you want

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Speaker 6: I'm in I haven't picked up a club in maybe

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Speaker 5: It's like how you do her line news. You just

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Speaker 5: All right? J Mack with the news, No, no, no,

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Speaker 5: turn on the news.

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Speaker 8: This is the headline news.

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Speaker 6: I told the producers I think this quarterback is probably

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Speaker 7: Here's their owner at cal McNair.

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Speaker 6: You know, that's a good problem to have when you

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Speaker 7: If you can't lie, why wouldn't you just lock him

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Speaker 6: to the Kansas City Chiefs, a wobbly franchise coming off

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Speaker 1: I think the Jayden Waddle thing is just takes you

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Speaker 6: Broncos at Jalen Waddle, Chargers at Mike McDaniel. Raiders get Mendoza,

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Speaker 6: Trent McDuffie. Maybe their second or first or second best defender.

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Speaker 1: Oh, Trent McDuffie said, great player. I mean to me,

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Speaker 1: I would take him outside of Patrick's ertan. I would

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Speaker 1: probably take him as second figure. The soft gartner is

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Speaker 1: still breathings hiss Uh, he's hurt.

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Speaker 5: You want to tackle anybody?

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Speaker 7: Interesting?

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Speaker 6: Chiefs did not get better this offseason. Call Oh, they

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Speaker 6: retained Travis Kelce. I forgot declining tight end.

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Speaker 7: Final story, Calm, Let's go to the NBA.

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Speaker 6: It's started to basketball where we always talk about Tom Izzo.

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Speaker 6: He recently revealed that he's almost made the jump to

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Speaker 6: the NBA before, as recently as last summer, when the

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Speaker 6: Suns were looking for a new head coach.

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Speaker 7: Here is Izzo talking about that situation to Dan Patrick.

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Speaker 10: I bet you know more than a couple job offers

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Speaker 10: in the in the NBA, and and looked at one

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Speaker 10: last year with Phoenix, you know, and my former player

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Speaker 10: Matt Hispia.

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Speaker 2: And that was hard.

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Speaker 10: That was a hard thing that turned down because Number one,

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Speaker 10: I kind of wanted to go with him.

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Speaker 2: So they offered you the head coaching job. We talked

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Speaker 2: seriously about it. Let's say that.

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Speaker 6: Guns recording a seventy year old college basketball legend to

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Speaker 6: coach in the NBA. Now, the Sons did not get him,

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Speaker 6: and it's worked out great. They're going to be in

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Speaker 6: the play in and they might be feisty. They've had

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Speaker 6: the Lakers number this year. That would be a big

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Speaker 6: loss for college Hoopso, I mean Izzo is on the

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Speaker 6: mount Rushmore of current college basketball coaches in the sport.

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Speaker 1: I mean basketball. There's Hubie Brown Broadcast Forever. Bill Raftery

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Speaker 1: is still unbelievable, Tom Izzo, Rick Patino. If you have

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Speaker 1: a young spirit about you, I don't care about your age.

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Speaker 1: If you're old and krusty, Bobby Knight at twenty eight

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Speaker 1: thirty eight couldn't have coached college NBA players. If you

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Speaker 1: have a young spirit, if you like young people, Izzo, Patino,

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Speaker 1: I mean, Bill Raftery is still absolutely aces Hube Brown

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Speaker 1: Broadcast Forever. They have a young, joyful spirit. Basketball is creative,

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Speaker 1: it's inventive, and you got to have the right spirit

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Speaker 1: to be a coach in that League.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Jmack of the news, Well that's the news, and thanks

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Speaker 1: for stopping by the Herd line.

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Speaker 5: Now he's bailing on us tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: So tomorrow's headlines today next with Jmack The Herd.

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Speaker 8: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays

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Speaker 8: and noon eastern a em Pacific.

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Speaker 1: All right, time for the madness to come to an end,

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Speaker 1: and say, April J Mack is not fooling around. March

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Speaker 1: madness has been absolutely glorious. We got two bangers this

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Speaker 1: week Michigan Arizona, Illinois taking on Yukon. So tomorrow's headlines today.

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Speaker 1: So let's start though. The new coach of the North

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Speaker 1: Carolina tar Heels a coveted job.

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Speaker 2: What say you?

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Speaker 6: It's interesting because North Carolina has a wide search happening

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Speaker 6: right now.

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Speaker 7: It's weird. Is this a great job? A good job?

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Speaker 6: Has nil changed things? Names are in the mix, out

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Speaker 6: of the mix, Colin. My guess is the headline for

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Speaker 6: the North Carolina job will be the ots father Tariho's

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Speaker 6: making offer. TJ can't refuse. I'm going with TJ Otsoberger

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Speaker 6: from Iowa State.

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Speaker 7: Now it's interesting.

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Speaker 6: A week ago he tried to remove his name from

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Speaker 6: the process, and some other coaches are also trying to

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Speaker 6: remove their name. Yet there's nothing from UNC about who

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Speaker 6: a leader is. We're not hearing anything on interviews. It's

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Speaker 6: very strange. Otzo Berger amazing recruiter. He's a Midwest guy,

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Speaker 6: so you know the college basketball. Oh, he's not a

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Speaker 6: regional fit. This guy knows basketball elite and I'm talking

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Speaker 6: top notch defenses I had at Iowa State. He just

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Speaker 6: hasn't had that superstar player to take him over the top.

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Speaker 7: They've been a two or three seed the last three years.

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Speaker 6: But they can't get over the sweet sixteen because at

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Speaker 6: March you need that alpha, that superstar when the chips

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Speaker 6: are down. He hasn't had that. I think he would

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Speaker 6: be a home run at North Carolina. You know, I

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Speaker 6: hear Jerry Stackhouse maybe coming. People are lobbying for Kenny

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Speaker 6: Smith from inside the NBA.

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Speaker 5: It is a weird search.

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Speaker 6: He's North Carolina fans are secular Colin. They want one

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Speaker 6: of their own.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, all right.

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Speaker 1: Tomorrow's headline today the matchup Arizona one seed Michigan one seed.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, listen, I loved Arizona all season. This team has

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Speaker 6: been a Juggernaut only two losses. They're loaded. However, in

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Speaker 6: the final four, the headline for Michigan Arizona will be

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Speaker 6: it's getting Dusty in here. Michigan sends Arizona home in tiers.

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Speaker 6: I'm going with the Wolverines, Colin, this is going to

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Speaker 6: be an amazing game. I'm leaning Wolverines simply because they're

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Speaker 6: Big ten tested. Big ten by far the best conference

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Speaker 6: in America. I know SEC fans are all in their

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Speaker 6: feelings about how bad they've been in the NCAA tournament.

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Speaker 6: Big twelve had a great run this year, but look

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Speaker 6: at them in the tournament the highest matchups. Big ten

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Speaker 6: has been great. And by the way, Purdue, did you

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Speaker 6: see them push Arizona for a half? They just didn't

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Speaker 6: have the horses in the front court. They led by

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Speaker 6: seven at halftime against Arizona. This is a Michigan team, Colin.

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Speaker 6: They don't have a weakness. They shoot the three. If

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Speaker 6: they're shooting the three at like thirty five to forty percent,

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Speaker 6: forget it's over. So I expect a fast game here.

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Speaker 6: I do give the edge to the Arizona backcourt, slight

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Speaker 6: edge to Dusty May. We've seen Tommy Lloyd.

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Speaker 7: I like him a lot. Some people want him to

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Speaker 7: go North Carolina.

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Speaker 6: I've seen him slip up a little in the tournament,

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Speaker 6: so I have some concerns about that, but I expect

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Speaker 6: a great game. Really is a coin flip. It opened

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Speaker 6: it to pick them. Michigan now favor by a little bit.

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Speaker 1: Tomorrow's headlines today the second game Yukon Illinois two and

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Speaker 1: three seeds.

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Speaker 5: I like Illinois here, what about you?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm I don't want to give away my pick yet.

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Speaker 6: I will say before the tournament did have Illinois in

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Speaker 6: my brackets. In the final four, nobody cares about brackets.

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Speaker 6: The headline for Yukon versus Illinois will be keviaf swishes

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Speaker 6: and Champagne drains Illinois eurosteps over Husky Nation.

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Speaker 3: I'm with you.

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Speaker 6: I like Illinois here. By the way, fun stat I

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Speaker 6: put this on my Instagram. The last six teams to

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Speaker 6: beat Duke in the NCAA tournament lost their next game.

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Speaker 4: Colin.

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Speaker 6: You know in sports you get very high when you

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Speaker 6: take down a big dog that win over Duke. I mean,

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Speaker 6: they're still partying in Source Connecticut, and I just wonder

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Speaker 6: how they react now. Some people are saying, well, Yukon

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Speaker 6: beat Illinois earlier, and I was like, earlier it was

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Speaker 6: in November. Woggler played thirteen minutes. He was like, in

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Speaker 6: the fifth college game, it meant nothing. This is an

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Speaker 6: Illinois team that's amazing passing Colin, big guys inside wings.

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Speaker 7: I think this is a Stroyokovic game. I'll be betting

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Speaker 7: his prop.

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Speaker 6: Woggler could struggle. Yukon has an older backcourt, twenty two

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Speaker 6: to twenty three year old guides. I still like Illinois here,

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Speaker 6: big ten all make it to the finals.

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Speaker 1: Tomorrow's headlines today the question that begs to be asked,

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Speaker 1: who's the national champion?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, it's tough not to like Michigan, but

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Speaker 6: Illinois is on a legendary run. Here just absolute heater.

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Speaker 6: Both these teams won all their tournament games by double digits.

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Speaker 6: The headline for the national championship on Monday night will

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Speaker 6: be time out. Michigan clock's first title since nineteen eighty nine. Now,

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Speaker 6: I know, as a college basketball fan, you remember that

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Speaker 6: Glen Rice room Meal Robinson team in eighty nine.

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Speaker 7: Great team.

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Speaker 6: Now Michigan, I believe, has lost four national championships since then.

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Speaker 7: The Fab five went back to back and lost, and.

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Speaker 6: Then you had the Trey Burke team, and then you

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Speaker 6: had that one team get eviscerated by Villanova with Jalen

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Speaker 6: Brunson and company. I think they snapped the streak here. Listen,

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Speaker 6: Michigan went to Champagne. We talked about that game.

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Speaker 5: I watched that game.

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Speaker 7: It was like, WHOA.

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Speaker 6: I don't know how Illinois stopped them. Illinois has a

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Speaker 6: couple good bigs, the Twins, but besides that, they're not

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Speaker 6: as big as Michigan. Between Mara Linde.

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Speaker 1: Boors, Michigan hits threes. They could blow out Arizona and

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Speaker 1: Illinois they're that good.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, and you're right, Arizona's not a three point shooting team.

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Speaker 7: Illinois is.

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Speaker 6: Illinois offense number one in the country. I think it'll

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Speaker 6: be a great game, but I will go Michigan. They'll

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Speaker 6: probably be favored by four or five points. Yeah, I

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Speaker 6: think they win it all right.

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Speaker 1: Finally, tomorrow's headlines today, who's the headline for the most

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Speaker 1: outstanding Player of the tournament.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you've hit on this theme in college football. Old

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Speaker 6: guys win. That's what's happening in college sports now. Stick

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Speaker 6: around law, make that nil money. The headline for most

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Speaker 6: Outstanding Player in the final four will be lend me

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Speaker 6: Your ears, friends, countrymen, all vote for Yaksoul Yaks. Soll Lendeborg, Colin,

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Speaker 6: if we're talking about best college basketball stories in the

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Speaker 6: last decade, I mean, this kid's amazing.

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Speaker 7: He's twenty three years old. He was at UAB for

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Speaker 7: two years.

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Speaker 6: And then all of a sudden last year kind of

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Speaker 6: blows up. Everybody wants him, and now he turns into

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Speaker 6: one of the best players in the country. Listen, the

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Speaker 6: draft is going to happen in June, and he's gonna

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Speaker 6: be picked somewhere. Yeah, but Colin, some of these sites

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Speaker 6: do hey analytically, here's where his numbers at his age

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Speaker 6: match up with players, and Lendeborg's is with a bunch

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Speaker 6: of guys who didn't make it in the NBA.

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Speaker 5: Because he's twenty three.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so my guess is he goes closer to like ten, eleven, twelve, thirteen,

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Speaker 1: fourteen in lands with a much better team and is

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Speaker 1: their third best player.

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Speaker 6: I mean maybe even Yeah, a rotational guy to start right, Yeah, finally,

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Speaker 6: Oh that's it. Yeah, I like lendebl I know you

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Speaker 6: do his story with his parents you know, I'm sure

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Speaker 6: you heard this read it. His parents were really cracking

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Speaker 6: down hard on him. Mom was like, you're not studying,

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Speaker 6: you know, you're not going to be anything. And he

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Speaker 6: turned it around a real American story. You gotta love it.

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Speaker 6: And it's been a great year for Michigan. By the way,

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Speaker 6: Indiana football, Michigan basketball, your Big ten take maybe one

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Speaker 6: of your better ones this decade.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, we said it three years ago.

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Speaker 1: They have bigger colleges than the SEC, I mean, forty

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Speaker 1: fifty thousand, and the kids don't stay in the Midwest.

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Speaker 1: They stay in Chicago a little, but Midwest is Cincinnati,

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Speaker 1: Saint Louis, Indianapolis. SEC kids they go to Charlotte in Atlanta, Miami,

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Speaker 1: big big ten kids. They flee to the coasts and

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Speaker 1: they make really good money and they they come back

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Speaker 1: and see their parents. They love their teams, and there's

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Speaker 1: just so many graduates and Big ten schools. There's a

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Speaker 1: lot of millionaires and billionaires out of Big ten schools,

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Speaker 1: and they take incredible pride in their Midwest roots and

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Speaker 1: they write checks. And it's not about facilities anymore. It's

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Speaker 1: not about high school recruiting. I don't even follow high

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Speaker 1: school recruiting. Like I used to, it's about can you

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Speaker 1: go get about nine players a year in football and

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Speaker 1: two to three in basketball NBA level guys to solve

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Speaker 1: your dilemmas Michigan getting Mara from UCLA. You can't score

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Speaker 1: at the rim now on Michigan, I mean you just

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Speaker 1: can't get there. Great show today, J Max is going

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Speaker 1: on VAK Enjoy Vegas, Buddy. He'll be back next week,

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Speaker 1: next year, well, he'll be back soon