WEBVTT - National Championship Review (1/10/2017)

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the Solid Verbal. I'm that for me. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>And Dan and.

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<v Speaker 2>Tie welcome back to the Solid Verbal boys and girls.

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<v Speaker 2>Ty hilde Brand over here, Dan Rubinstein over there. Solid

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<v Speaker 1>Sir, how are you old? Can we be making money

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<v Speaker 1>off of this from people? What is that a thing? Maybe?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know where available? I am.

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<v Speaker 3>I sound sick, but I'm feeling better. I just have

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<v Speaker 3>just gunk in my head at this point. I'm good.

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<v Speaker 3>We have a national champion. We had a a rates

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<v Speaker 3>albeit very long, national championship game that I think you

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<v Speaker 3>can probably speak to specifically, and I couldn't be happier

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<v Speaker 3>that we had a back and forth, and we have

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<v Speaker 3>a national champion whose fan base has not been in

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<v Speaker 3>this space in quite some time.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's jump right in, Dan, Yeah, we have breaking new

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<v Speaker 2>your twenty sixteen to seventeen national champion is officially the

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<v Speaker 2>Clemson Tigers. Clemson wins by a thirty five to thirty

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<v Speaker 2>one score. As you mentioned, a back and forth game,

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<v Speaker 2>an epic showdown, perhaps the best game of the year,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe the best national championship game that we've seen since

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<v Speaker 2>that epic USC Texas game in the Rose Bowl about

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<v Speaker 2>ten years ago. What was your take watching this football game, Dan?

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<v Speaker 2>What were the key points that jumped out to you?

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<v Speaker 2>Other than the fact that this was a great football

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<v Speaker 2>game between two awesome teams and a fantastic singular performance

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<v Speaker 2>by de Sean Watson.

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<v Speaker 3>My takeaway is I hope Deshaun Watson has access to

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<v Speaker 3>a hot tub for like the next week. I hope

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<v Speaker 3>that he has access to massage therapy and cold tubs

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<v Speaker 3>and hot tubs and naps and more napping and sixteen

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<v Speaker 3>hour nights of sleep because he took so much abuse

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<v Speaker 3>to get and pull Clemson past the finish line for

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<v Speaker 3>the National championship. And which is also to say the

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<v Speaker 3>Clemson defense did as well, standing up to Alabama's offense,

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<v Speaker 3>namely the rushing attack, with or without both Scarborough that

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<v Speaker 3>there was there was nothing easy, and this is something

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<v Speaker 3>I talked about in the postgame show I did with

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<v Speaker 3>our pal Ryan Nanny at the day job at Espanation

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<v Speaker 3>is that we've seen national championships in which there are breakdowns,

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<v Speaker 3>and certainly there was a breakdown for Clemson's defense on

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<v Speaker 3>that long Oj Howard touchdown. But for Clemson to win

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<v Speaker 3>this game, there wasn't a single play that was taking

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<v Speaker 3>advantage of an Alabama breakdown. They earned every single inch

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<v Speaker 3>and that is an incredible feat against what I still

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<v Speaker 3>think and what I would still consider to be the

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<v Speaker 3>best college football thing, which is Alabama's front seven, their

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<v Speaker 3>rush defense particularly, and the way that they get to

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<v Speaker 3>a quarterback in the passing game. The fact that Clemson

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<v Speaker 3>was able to defeat them while they were playing at

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<v Speaker 3>an extraordinarily high level. We're talking about a senior laid

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<v Speaker 3>in front seven as well, We're not just talking about

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<v Speaker 3>pure talent, talent and experience and age and intelligence. That

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<v Speaker 3>to me is the incredibly impressive thing that they were

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<v Speaker 3>able to weather that sort of just extreme success.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely.

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<v Speaker 2>Deshaun Watson, I think cemented his legacy, is probably the

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<v Speaker 2>best player in the history of Clemson Football's clearly one

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<v Speaker 2>of the best big game players of all time. Dan

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<v Speaker 2>that final drive last night was the kind of thing

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<v Speaker 2>that every kid envisions when you're playing around in the backyard.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't even play organized football, but when I was eight,

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<v Speaker 2>even sometimes in the holidays, when I'm like thirty, we'll

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<v Speaker 2>go out in the backyard. We'll pretend we're running that

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<v Speaker 2>two minute drill to try and win something big. Yep,

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<v Speaker 2>the moment never seems too big.

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<v Speaker 1>For Deshaun Watson. No, absolutely not.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's the one thing that comes up time and

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<v Speaker 2>time again when you see in these situations, even if

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<v Speaker 2>he's in that dream scenario that you plan for, that

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<v Speaker 2>you hope for when you're a little kid, even when

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<v Speaker 2>he's getting crushed on every play, as you eluded a

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<v Speaker 2>few minutes ago, no interceptions last night, twenty one carries

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<v Speaker 2>for forty three big yards, a big rushing touchdown, almost

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<v Speaker 2>had a second rushing touchdown when he tried to superman

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<v Speaker 2>in from the five yard line. Thirty six of fifty

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<v Speaker 2>six passing, four to twenty through the air, three.

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<v Speaker 1>Touchdowns through the air.

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<v Speaker 2>The guy has a quiet confidence to him, and when

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<v Speaker 2>his team needs him the most, that's when he steps up.

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<v Speaker 2>It's what we talked about in all of the preview

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<v Speaker 2>shows we had done leading up to the National Championship.

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<v Speaker 2>This game was going to be a function of what

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<v Speaker 2>Deshaun Watson could do on his own. Now he had

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<v Speaker 2>plenty of help, and we'll talk about what his receiving

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<v Speaker 2>corps did and how it rose to the occasion. Deshaun Watson,

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<v Speaker 2>I thought, the best singular entity in this game. We

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<v Speaker 2>knew it going in. If he had this kind of game,

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<v Speaker 2>Clemson clearly had a shot to win. He pulled it off.

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<v Speaker 2>They pulled it off. Now, the th the National champs.

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<v Speaker 3>Throwing the ball fifty six times no less. If that

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<v Speaker 3>is a number that you're hearing against Alabama, that's generally

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<v Speaker 3>a bad thing because it indicates the rush is not there.

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<v Speaker 3>And the rush was one hundred percent not there for

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<v Speaker 3>Clemson by Deshaun Watson, by Wayne Gollman, Buye, whoever. So

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<v Speaker 3>Clemson loses the rushing battle in a big way. I

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<v Speaker 3>think they're out gained on the ground two twenty one

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<v Speaker 3>to ninety one, and it was it was like six

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<v Speaker 3>and a half yards per carry it to to whatever. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>it's for Kerry. Clemson could not move the ball on

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<v Speaker 3>the ground at all, and they lose the turnover battle,

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<v Speaker 3>and Clemson moves to something like fifteen and one or

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<v Speaker 3>something when they have two turnovers or more.

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<v Speaker 1>They're just so good at overcoming.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think it's pretty clearly a reflection of Davioswinny

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<v Speaker 3>and the coaching staff that Clemson just sort of has

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<v Speaker 3>singular focus and has unwavering confidence in their ability even

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<v Speaker 3>with setbacks like turnovers. But for Alabama, the story was

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<v Speaker 3>clearly offensive struggles. Uh not willing to really open the

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<v Speaker 3>playbook up with Jalen Hurtz throw the ball downfield a ton.

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<v Speaker 3>They had a little bit of success, we had that

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<v Speaker 3>broken play that not broken play but the great sort

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<v Speaker 3>of screen fake, and then Oj Howard running unimpeded down

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<v Speaker 3>the sideline. But beyond that, it was a one dimensional

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<v Speaker 3>attack in that it was like like a twelve yard

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<v Speaker 3>field that Alabama was playing with on offense, and once

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<v Speaker 3>both Scarborough went down and yes, huge factor, but he's

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<v Speaker 3>not their only running back and he's not their only

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<v Speaker 3>running back that can turn out chunks of yardage. It

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<v Speaker 3>was it was a different story for Alabama's offense, and I.

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<v Speaker 1>Would have liked to see that.

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<v Speaker 3>I would have liked to see them get maybe more

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<v Speaker 3>creative with their rushing attack, you know, spread the ball

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<v Speaker 3>out a little more, look for like some more tossy,

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<v Speaker 3>reedy option e things that they could almost play action

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<v Speaker 3>off of. But adjusting on the fly to losing Bo

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<v Speaker 3>Scarborough probably is much more easy in theory than it

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<v Speaker 3>is an execution, especially with a first game offensive coordinator

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<v Speaker 3>in Steve Sarkasian. So that, to me was the story

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<v Speaker 3>Alabama's inability to adjust to a great defensive performance from

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<v Speaker 3>Clemson and having a what seemed like a very small

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<v Speaker 3>playbook for Jalen Hurts downfield.

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<v Speaker 1>I would agree.

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<v Speaker 2>I think the final stanza now of Alabama's season is

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<v Speaker 2>that even with the best defense in college football, you

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<v Speaker 2>need more balance on offense to win a championship. In

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<v Speaker 2>their two biggest games of this season Dan Washington and Clemson,

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<v Speaker 2>Jalen Hurts had his two worst games in terms of

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<v Speaker 2>yards per attempt. In the Washington game, he was a

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<v Speaker 2>shade under four point one yards per attempt. In this

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<v Speaker 2>game against Clemson, a shade over four point two yards

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<v Speaker 2>per attempt. So, to your point, not very creative, not

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<v Speaker 2>very wide open. There are a bunch of viable reasons

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<v Speaker 2>why those numbers are lower. By the way, and it's

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<v Speaker 2>not all on Jalen Hurts. Part of that is absolutely

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<v Speaker 2>going up against two great pass defenses that definitely plays

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<v Speaker 2>a factor. Part of that could also be the game

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<v Speaker 2>plan being too conservative or run heavy. Could have something

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<v Speaker 2>to do with a new offensive coordinator. Part of that

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<v Speaker 2>could also be Jalen Hurts needing to mature as a passer.

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<v Speaker 2>He's got much more time at Alabama to do that,

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<v Speaker 2>and I suspect that he will. I don't think any

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<v Speaker 2>of it reflects poorly on Alabama, and certainly they're not

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<v Speaker 2>going to get sympathy from the college football world because

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<v Speaker 2>they lost. This game didn't look as pyrotechnic on offense.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think it's an important footnote as they now

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<v Speaker 2>try to build this thing in twenty seventeen. If you're

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<v Speaker 2>a Bama fan, if you're a college football fan, that's

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<v Speaker 2>what you watch for. You already know that Alabama can

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<v Speaker 2>run the football, both with Hurts or whoever is in

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<v Speaker 2>the backfield. The second missing piece now is going to

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<v Speaker 2>be passing, because lord knows, they've got plenty of toys

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<v Speaker 2>out wide. It's not just oj Howard. Calvin Ridley had

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<v Speaker 2>five catches for what thirty six yards. Plenty of guys

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<v Speaker 2>all around the field who can catch the ball, can

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<v Speaker 2>make plays in open space. They just weren't able to

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<v Speaker 2>put those guys in a position to really make those plays.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean they Clems were just sitting on all

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<v Speaker 3>the short stuff for daring Jalen Hurts to throw the

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<v Speaker 3>ball downfield and make bigger throws than perhaps he was

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<v Speaker 3>able to against this defense. Are allowed to against this defense,

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<v Speaker 3>And it should also totally be noted with all due

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<v Speaker 3>fairness and respect, Jalen Hurts the Alabama offense. If going

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<v Speaker 3>into this game you said, okay, well Alabama has the

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<v Speaker 3>Alabama defense, we agree, Alabama has that thing on one

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<v Speaker 3>side of the ball that just monstrous entity. Should thirty

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<v Speaker 3>one points be enough to beat Clemson? Probably?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Probably.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean with what Clemson has done this year with

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<v Speaker 3>turning the ball over in in unfortunate spots, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>playing a little sloppier, you know, not being able to

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<v Speaker 3>generate the rush, especially thirty one points with Clemson not

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<v Speaker 3>able to run the ball, that should be enough. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>And that I think it much more speaks to Clemson's

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<v Speaker 3>ability and to Shaun Watson's ability to come through in

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<v Speaker 3>the fourth quarter, which, by the way, should also be

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<v Speaker 3>noted our pow Ryan Anny looked this up. How many

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<v Speaker 3>points did Alabama give up in the fourth quarter since

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<v Speaker 3>the Arkansas game October eighth in the fourth quarter, So

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<v Speaker 3>we're talking about eight straight games I believe since October eighth. Ye,

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<v Speaker 3>Alabama before giving up twenty one to Clemson in the

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<v Speaker 3>fourth quarter last night, combined in those one hundred and

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<v Speaker 3>twenty minutes to give up zero fourth quarter point no,

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<v Speaker 3>so thirty one points and knowing that your fourth quarter

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<v Speaker 3>defense has been exceptional all things considered, and Jalen Hurts

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<v Speaker 3>had you know, obviously an excellent run on the ground

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<v Speaker 3>for a touchdown late. But what came back to haunt

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<v Speaker 3>Alabama was and this was sort of an all season

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<v Speaker 3>long thing that didn't seem to matter, but third downs,

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<v Speaker 3>which are you know, just as important in and of

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<v Speaker 3>itself that it is. I don't know what I'm trying

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<v Speaker 3>to say here, that it's a product of first and

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<v Speaker 3>second down as well as being a big spot on

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<v Speaker 3>offense during drives. Alabama was two of fifteen on third downs.

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<v Speaker 3>And Jalen Hurts this season when you put him in

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<v Speaker 3>an obvious passing downs like third and six, third and seven, plus.

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<v Speaker 1>He was not very good. And we hammered on this

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<v Speaker 1>in the pre show.

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<v Speaker 3>If they can force those situations, if they can force

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<v Speaker 3>no brainer passing downs where they know they can pressure him,

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<v Speaker 3>then they can blitz and sit on short stuff that

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<v Speaker 3>Jalen hurts is going to struggle. Fact that they still

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<v Speaker 3>scored thirty one points is sort of a testament to

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<v Speaker 3>weathering some obvious deficiencies.

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<v Speaker 2>I saw it written somewhere, and forgive me for not

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<v Speaker 2>citing properly. It might have been Spencer, not you. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>definitely not me. The gist of this was that Alabama

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<v Speaker 2>saw a lot of meaningful fourth quarter plays in this

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<v Speaker 2>game from Clemson. Defensively, that's not something they're accustomed to seeing.

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<v Speaker 2>By the time they get to the fourth quarter. In

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of the games they play, the plays themselves

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<v Speaker 2>don't mean a whole lot in this game, obviously, it

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<v Speaker 2>was a fight to the finish, and the implication was

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<v Speaker 2>that because Clemson tried to spread out and run to

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<v Speaker 2>the perimeter as much as they did early on in

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<v Speaker 2>the game, perhaps they wore out Alabama's defensive front, and

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<v Speaker 2>the meaningful plays later on in the game Clemson had

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<v Speaker 2>worn them down by that point.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm trying to say if Alabama had entered a fourth

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<v Speaker 3>quarter not by double digits. I know the Old Miss

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<v Speaker 3>game was a back and forth. Looks like I'm looking

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<v Speaker 3>at Alabama Arkansas, that did not appear to be the case.

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<v Speaker 3>Alabama LSU was ten points obviously in the end, and

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<v Speaker 3>all those points were scored in the fourth quarter, so

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<v Speaker 3>a scoreless going into it.

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<v Speaker 1>So that was.

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<v Speaker 3>Probably the only real example of Alabama's defense giving full

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<v Speaker 3>attention knowing that a game was in the balance, at

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<v Speaker 3>least recently. So you're right, and Alabama's defense is built

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<v Speaker 3>to shut down teams for four full quarters. And I

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<v Speaker 3>don't think it's a full excuse that Alabama's defense finally

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<v Speaker 3>had to play meaningful fourth quarter minutes. But man, Deshaun Watson,

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<v Speaker 3>Hunter Renfro, the ability to spread the ball around, Mike

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<v Speaker 3>Williams making enormous catches, you know, a presence both he

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<v Speaker 3>and Mike Williams and Dion Kane in this game, not

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<v Speaker 3>in this game last year, just enormous, just in a

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<v Speaker 3>game where once again, nothing was easy, there was nothing routine,

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<v Speaker 3>there was no play. It seemed that like Mike Williams,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, had like a slant that sort of froze

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<v Speaker 3>a corner or something like that and took it seventeen yards.

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<v Speaker 3>Everything was by three and a half inches something like that.

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<v Speaker 3>So an unbelievable performance from Clemson. Everything sort of came

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<v Speaker 3>together bite just a hair, and that's that's crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>I have a very important question here. Yeah, did you

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<v Speaker 2>see the final play, the on side kick? No, no, no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 2>the final touchdown? Oh, the final touchdown? Yeah, of course.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you have any problem with that rub play?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, so this is something that obviously you are going

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<v Speaker 3>to feel a particular passion point about as a notre dame.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't have a problem with it. I think I

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<v Speaker 2>think it was fine. I think the officials were calling

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<v Speaker 2>the game very loosely.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Not the only pick play touchdown in this game, either.

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<v Speaker 2>Not the only not the only rub touchdown shore. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I am fine with I thought. But Elliott did a

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<v Speaker 2>really good job explaining why it was an offensive pass interference.

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<v Speaker 2>Right defender initiated contact. The receiver was doing his best

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<v Speaker 2>to at least sell running a passing route. It wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>as if he went out there and overtly tried to

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<v Speaker 2>block the defender. So I'm okay with those plays. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>sure they're gonna be Alabama fans will feel differently. That

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<v Speaker 2>is the main primary difference between what we saw last

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<v Speaker 2>night on two separate occasions, mind you, versus what we

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<v Speaker 2>saw in the Notre Dame game like two years ago.

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<v Speaker 2>That was clearly a different story.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't have a problem with it if receivers are

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<v Speaker 3>taught to play within the rules of how officials see

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<v Speaker 3>those plays. So the defenders initiating contact and sort of

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<v Speaker 3>looking to the quarterback for the ball, you know, putting

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<v Speaker 3>your hands out so sort of conceivably running a route.

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<v Speaker 3>Clemson's players, to me, to my eyes, ran those routes

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<v Speaker 3>plause enough that it was sort of on Alabama. And

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<v Speaker 3>you know, there are teams that succeed against those kinds

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<v Speaker 3>of routes, that are able to sort of match up

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<v Speaker 3>and switch and do what is necessarily. I believe that

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<v Speaker 3>the Super Bowl ends on one of those with Seattle

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<v Speaker 3>and New England.

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<v Speaker 1>I believe so.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I believe it is so you can stop those

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<v Speaker 3>But good for Clemson four. I think running that play

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<v Speaker 3>to the satisfaction of the letter.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, So on that awkward note where we left off,

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<v Speaker 2>what were some other notes that you had while watching

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<v Speaker 2>this game? Because it's not all about the game when

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<v Speaker 2>you get to this point right in the college football season,

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of neat stuff going on around the game.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought, the most notable of which was the way

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<v Speaker 2>that ESPN covered it. So obviously on ESPN you've got

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<v Speaker 2>Fowler and Herbstreem, who do a bang up job.

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<v Speaker 1>Rinaldi ponder on the sideline, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Ronaldi ponder on the sideline.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure.

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<v Speaker 2>You also had the ESPN homer Feed on ESPN two,

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<v Speaker 2>which featured Joe Tess and Barrett Jones.

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<v Speaker 1>Whoa, whoa, whoa, Adam Amen, That's where I'm going with it.

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<v Speaker 2>I was gonna say, on the Clarson side, Wow, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>our new best pal adam Aman yep sidled up with

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<v Speaker 2>the ToJ Boyd. So they had the ESPN homer Feed.

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<v Speaker 2>And then on ESPN News, I want to say it

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<v Speaker 2>was the ESPN Film Room. It featured a bunch of coaches.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you have a chance to check out any of

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<v Speaker 2>those other broadcasts?

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<v Speaker 1>I did.

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<v Speaker 3>I watched a little bit of the coaches. The problem

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<v Speaker 3>was our office. I guess we don't get ESPN.

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<v Speaker 1>News in the sp Nation office. Really, hey for the

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<v Speaker 1>full package that includes ESPN News.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow.

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<v Speaker 3>So I put it on watch ESPN on my computer

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<v Speaker 3>and watched a little bit of that, but it was

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<v Speaker 3>a good like thirty forty seconds behind, so that made

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<v Speaker 3>it a little bit more or difficult to sort of

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<v Speaker 3>pay attention to both because I did want to see

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<v Speaker 3>what was happening live on TV.

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<v Speaker 1>But Dino Babers was great. Yeah, Matt Rule was really

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<v Speaker 1>really good. Matt Rule.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought Matt Rule and Dino Babers stole the show.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, I thought those were the two best. And they

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<v Speaker 3>got snacks in there, which is yes.

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<v Speaker 2>Kilanie Sataki did not talk.

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<v Speaker 3>No, he did not. I did not tell Fridge Mark

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<v Speaker 3>Helfrisch was supposed to be in that room. I was

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<v Speaker 3>very curious, but he ended up not being there.

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<v Speaker 2>Kalanie Sataki did not talk, and I saw that. Somebody

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<v Speaker 2>on Twitter noted that the only real notable action from

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<v Speaker 2>Klanie Sataki is when they brought the snacks out.

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<v Speaker 1>He was the first to jump all over that absolutely.

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<v Speaker 2>Otherwise, the coaches feed was sort of difficult to digest.

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<v Speaker 2>There wasn't a whole lot of organization to who was

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<v Speaker 2>saying something and when they were saying it, So unless

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<v Speaker 2>you were really in the weeds into the x's and

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<v Speaker 2>o's and know the keywords to listen for, it was

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<v Speaker 2>difficult to figure out and just what was actually being said.

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<v Speaker 2>A lot of guys just yell and stuff and oh

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<v Speaker 2>look at that cover two here comes to safety. There

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't much organization around the actual commentary, but Matt Ruhlandino

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<v Speaker 2>Baber's I thought, brought a little personality to that side

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<v Speaker 2>of the broadcast, which was a lot of fun to watch.

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<v Speaker 2>I enjoyed it to the extent I could understand what

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<v Speaker 2>was going on.

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<v Speaker 3>I might cut that to like three or four coaches

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<v Speaker 3>next time. Yeah, And I would imagine that the big

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<v Speaker 3>interesting parts of that feed was like the because they

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think they really went to commercials all that much,

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<v Speaker 3>so commercials at halftime to sort of talk big picture

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<v Speaker 3>about what teams are trying to do. I thought it's

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<v Speaker 3>a really interesting concept. I think they're still honing it.

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<v Speaker 3>And then on another feed they had Bill Walton dressed

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<v Speaker 3>as a seven foot uncle sichel saying about pot and all.

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<v Speaker 1>Sorts of aliens and all sorts of filings. So this

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<v Speaker 1>is totally true.

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<v Speaker 3>So if you haven't go back and find some vines

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<v Speaker 3>or videos or whatever, because it was wonderful just the

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<v Speaker 3>Bill Walton part. I mean, I think it was a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of people talking over each other otherwise, and I

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<v Speaker 3>think Paul Finebaum did something Okay, no idea, but I yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I was mainly just watching the game.

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<v Speaker 1>After the fact, I'll go and.

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<v Speaker 3>Scan through the coaches feed to see if they were

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<v Speaker 3>talking about anything interesting, but that's about it.

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<v Speaker 2>There was a cool bit where Mike McIntyre clearly went

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<v Speaker 2>to the men's room and they all they all ganged

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<v Speaker 2>up on him, joking that he was going to talk

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<v Speaker 2>to his financial advisor because he just signed like a

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<v Speaker 2>thirty million dollar extension.

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<v Speaker 1>It's true. No, he's in Boulder for a bit now,

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<v Speaker 1>Good for him.

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<v Speaker 2>So that was fun. And then of course the Homer

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<v Speaker 2>feed I thought was outstanding good And I'm not just

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<v Speaker 2>saying it because Adam Amine is like one of our

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<v Speaker 2>favorite commentators, but he and joy Test did a great

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<v Speaker 2>job painting the picture of the game from the sidelines,

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<v Speaker 2>talked about the experience of being there, really tried to

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<v Speaker 2>cover the emotion of both sidelines. That was a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of fun to watch. Again, it's a different way to

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<v Speaker 2>look at the broadcast, and I saw Adam even mentioned

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<v Speaker 2>on his Twitter feed might not be everyone's cup of tea,

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<v Speaker 2>but certainly a different perspective that gave you a new

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<v Speaker 2>way to watch the game.

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<v Speaker 3>Game lasted a long time too, Ty, Yeah, you have

0:23:07.440 --> 0:23:11.240
<v Speaker 3>you have a personal I am aware of this, So

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<v Speaker 3>what was your game watching situation? I watched from work

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<v Speaker 3>because we're doing a pre and post show wake Up

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<v Speaker 3>College Football on YouTube. So that was my general game

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<v Speaker 3>watching situation. But this lasted. This game lasted right about

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<v Speaker 3>four hours and fifteen minutes, which I was I was

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<v Speaker 3>timing it. I was paying close attention because I wanted

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<v Speaker 3>to see if it would equal or surpass Game seven

0:23:34.080 --> 0:23:36.199
<v Speaker 3>of Cubs Indians went four to twenty eight, and that

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<v Speaker 3>was ten innings with the seventeen minute weather delay.

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<v Speaker 1>With the weather delay, Yeah right, how'd you do not well?

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<v Speaker 1>What does that mean?

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't do well well? As we were down in

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<v Speaker 2>Tampa and we both our plan was this. Our plan

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<v Speaker 2>was to go early on Friday to get set up

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<v Speaker 2>and do our interviews and finish up our preview show,

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<v Speaker 2>which I hope everybody liked. We got good reviews on

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<v Speaker 2>it so far right And actually, if you go back

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<v Speaker 2>and listen after the fact, there weren't any glaring mistakes

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<v Speaker 2>in anything that we said. I thought the preview did

0:24:07.720 --> 0:24:10.520
<v Speaker 2>a pretty good job painting what was to be expected

0:24:10.520 --> 0:24:12.560
<v Speaker 2>in the game in it in the end kind of

0:24:12.560 --> 0:24:15.400
<v Speaker 2>turned out the way we thought it could fearless prediction.

0:24:15.680 --> 0:24:19.320
<v Speaker 3>That's Rubinstein, that's right, called the quarterback alter of Dancy,

0:24:19.320 --> 0:24:23.280
<v Speaker 3>called third downs, called a close Clemson win, continue.

0:24:22.920 --> 0:24:25.280
<v Speaker 2>Alter of Dan. But the plan was to go in

0:24:25.400 --> 0:24:30.320
<v Speaker 2>early on Friday, which we did, recorded all Friday, all Saturday,

0:24:30.320 --> 0:24:32.800
<v Speaker 2>most of Sunday, and then you and I both had

0:24:32.880 --> 0:24:35.520
<v Speaker 2>late flights out of Tampa to get back in time

0:24:36.320 --> 0:24:39.320
<v Speaker 2>to our respective homes to watch the games from the

0:24:39.359 --> 0:24:42.120
<v Speaker 2>comfort of our own living room or the office or wherever. Yeah,

0:24:42.320 --> 0:24:44.520
<v Speaker 2>so we did a lot of travel. We were both

0:24:44.560 --> 0:24:49.440
<v Speaker 2>kind of tired. I went to work yesterday, the mysterious

0:24:49.520 --> 0:24:53.399
<v Speaker 2>day job, worked a full day, came home, sidled up

0:24:53.440 --> 0:24:57.280
<v Speaker 2>next to my television, had a Voodoo Ranger IPA from

0:24:57.320 --> 0:25:01.280
<v Speaker 2>New Belgium, which was delicious, A great way to close

0:25:01.280 --> 0:25:04.960
<v Speaker 2>out the college football season. Sat Indian style on my

0:25:05.119 --> 0:25:07.880
<v Speaker 2>floor for the first half of the game, and then

0:25:07.960 --> 0:25:11.040
<v Speaker 2>decided I was feeling a little dangerous and a little

0:25:11.040 --> 0:25:13.280
<v Speaker 2>tired of I'm being honest, decided, why don't I prop

0:25:13.400 --> 0:25:16.880
<v Speaker 2>up my feet and sit in the couch and set

0:25:16.880 --> 0:25:19.159
<v Speaker 2>a hunching over and bending my knees like I'm a

0:25:19.240 --> 0:25:22.480
<v Speaker 2>praying mantis. Why don't I lay on the couch, prop

0:25:22.560 --> 0:25:26.280
<v Speaker 2>up my feet, watch the second half. The next thing

0:25:26.359 --> 0:25:29.240
<v Speaker 2>I knew, it was about one point fifteen in the.

0:25:29.119 --> 0:25:32.040
<v Speaker 1>Morning, a tradition unlike any other.

0:25:32.200 --> 0:25:35.920
<v Speaker 2>About one fifteen in the morning. My contacts are dried

0:25:36.000 --> 0:25:38.240
<v Speaker 2>up in my eyes. I'm trying to look through these

0:25:38.280 --> 0:25:44.560
<v Speaker 2>cloudy lenses, yeah, and figure out exactly what transpired, only

0:25:44.600 --> 0:25:46.720
<v Speaker 2>to discover that I missed most of the second half

0:25:46.720 --> 0:25:47.880
<v Speaker 2>in that Clemson won the game.

0:25:49.680 --> 0:25:51.960
<v Speaker 3>So this morning you went back and watched everything with

0:25:52.040 --> 0:25:53.400
<v Speaker 3>clear eye, literal clear.

0:25:53.200 --> 0:25:56.359
<v Speaker 2>Eyes, clear eyes, and a full heart. Yeah yeah, Okay,

0:25:56.600 --> 0:25:59.160
<v Speaker 2>went back every morning, watched it, got the full take.

0:25:59.760 --> 0:26:02.720
<v Speaker 2>So I guess I didn't really miss any of the action.

0:26:02.880 --> 0:26:04.120
<v Speaker 2>I just missed it in real time.

0:26:04.400 --> 0:26:07.960
<v Speaker 3>Prett Nott, Alabama and Clemson people possibly offended that Tye

0:26:07.960 --> 0:26:12.120
<v Speaker 3>fell asleep during your huge national exciting championship. He did

0:26:12.119 --> 0:26:15.080
<v Speaker 3>that for his own team as well. He fell asleep

0:26:15.440 --> 0:26:17.840
<v Speaker 3>when his own team was in the national championship. This

0:26:18.000 --> 0:26:23.159
<v Speaker 3>is much more an indictment on Tye's feelings about consciousness

0:26:23.320 --> 0:26:25.400
<v Speaker 3>than it is about college football.

0:26:25.520 --> 0:26:26.040
<v Speaker 1>I love it.

0:26:26.200 --> 0:26:28.600
<v Speaker 2>I'm sure this is a huge hit on my credibility.

0:26:28.720 --> 0:26:31.640
<v Speaker 2>Every show we do is a huge hit on our credibility.

0:26:31.680 --> 0:26:34.320
<v Speaker 2>It's fine, but we're nothing if not honest on this show.

0:26:34.480 --> 0:26:37.240
<v Speaker 2>And that's true. I zonked out. I zonked out. I

0:26:37.240 --> 0:26:38.960
<v Speaker 2>saw about five minutes the third quarter, and then I

0:26:39.040 --> 0:26:43.480
<v Speaker 2>was out. I went back. I watched probably with greater

0:26:43.560 --> 0:26:47.960
<v Speaker 2>attentiveness this morning, and took my notes in now here

0:26:47.960 --> 0:26:48.440
<v Speaker 2>we are but.

0:26:49.359 --> 0:26:52.560
<v Speaker 3>The end of the game, God, probably like twelve ten

0:26:52.760 --> 0:26:55.800
<v Speaker 3>twelve fifteen am Eastern time. Not only was I tired,

0:26:56.240 --> 0:26:58.080
<v Speaker 3>I realized that I would be tired if I were

0:26:58.080 --> 0:27:02.080
<v Speaker 3>watching this on the West coast. It had reached that point. So, yes,

0:27:02.160 --> 0:27:04.240
<v Speaker 3>we are old and disappointing, and it happens.

0:27:04.240 --> 0:27:04.840
<v Speaker 1>What are you gonna do?

0:27:06.000 --> 0:27:08.439
<v Speaker 3>But no, I think there has to be moving forward

0:27:08.840 --> 0:27:10.639
<v Speaker 3>just for the sport itself. And this isn't even a

0:27:10.720 --> 0:27:13.240
<v Speaker 3>national championship thing, which also has a longer halftime, but

0:27:13.400 --> 0:27:16.240
<v Speaker 3>like an early October CBS.

0:27:15.800 --> 0:27:17.960
<v Speaker 1>Game is lasting like four hours and twenty minutes.

0:27:18.840 --> 0:27:21.199
<v Speaker 3>I'm not going to put on a hat of like

0:27:21.359 --> 0:27:24.960
<v Speaker 3>TV executive, and I very much am not that, But

0:27:26.400 --> 0:27:29.440
<v Speaker 3>I think the sweet spot needs to be no games.

0:27:29.240 --> 0:27:31.199
<v Speaker 1>Lasting longer than like three and a half hours.

0:27:31.560 --> 0:27:35.399
<v Speaker 3>That probably just in terms of holding interest and growing

0:27:35.440 --> 0:27:40.159
<v Speaker 3>the sports and being a viable TV product moving forward

0:27:40.240 --> 0:27:44.720
<v Speaker 3>with sort of increased competition all the time, Like maybe

0:27:44.760 --> 0:27:46.760
<v Speaker 3>only stop the clock when somebody goes out of.

0:27:46.760 --> 0:27:48.359
<v Speaker 1>The bounds in the last two or three minutes.

0:27:48.840 --> 0:27:52.320
<v Speaker 3>Like there's some antiquated clock rules that I think need

0:27:52.359 --> 0:27:55.120
<v Speaker 3>to be revisited. The first down clock stoppage maybe needs

0:27:55.119 --> 0:27:58.560
<v Speaker 3>to be revisited. There's a lot that says, Okay, is

0:27:58.560 --> 0:28:01.560
<v Speaker 3>this really necessary? Do we really need to like go

0:28:01.640 --> 0:28:04.159
<v Speaker 3>to commercial after every punt? Do we really need to

0:28:04.680 --> 0:28:09.400
<v Speaker 3>I think the way college football is broadcast and governed

0:28:09.480 --> 0:28:13.240
<v Speaker 3>from a rules perspective needs to be overhauled a bit.

0:28:13.320 --> 0:28:15.640
<v Speaker 2>You know, what they need to do, what they need

0:28:15.680 --> 0:28:18.359
<v Speaker 2>to do. Whatever the hell they did in that Seahawks

0:28:18.359 --> 0:28:19.040
<v Speaker 2>Lions game.

0:28:19.800 --> 0:28:23.600
<v Speaker 3>Well it's twelve minute halves. Yeah, and well, especially since

0:28:23.680 --> 0:28:25.919
<v Speaker 3>college football perhaps more than pro and I do not

0:28:25.960 --> 0:28:27.480
<v Speaker 3>have the data to point this out because I do

0:28:27.520 --> 0:28:31.199
<v Speaker 3>not watch a lot of pro football. They run the

0:28:31.240 --> 0:28:34.560
<v Speaker 3>ball so infrequently in college and some of these big

0:28:34.600 --> 0:28:37.600
<v Speaker 3>games just because these you know, spread offenses, even like

0:28:37.640 --> 0:28:40.239
<v Speaker 3>de facto runs like little screens that are sort of

0:28:40.720 --> 0:28:45.240
<v Speaker 3>they might as well be like slight pitches when they're incomplete,

0:28:45.480 --> 0:28:47.640
<v Speaker 3>when they're they're just sort of running out of bounds

0:28:47.640 --> 0:28:51.800
<v Speaker 3>because everybody's stretching it wide. It just lengthens it so much.

0:28:52.040 --> 0:28:53.840
<v Speaker 3>And so I don't know if the game is all

0:28:53.840 --> 0:28:55.960
<v Speaker 3>that different on the pro level, but the rules are such,

0:28:56.040 --> 0:28:59.400
<v Speaker 3>especially with first down clock stoppage, that you need let's

0:28:59.600 --> 0:29:01.840
<v Speaker 3>let's this stop. Let's let's get to three three and

0:29:01.880 --> 0:29:04.200
<v Speaker 3>a half instead of three forty five four fifteen.

0:29:04.440 --> 0:29:07.320
<v Speaker 2>We watched that playoff game in the hotel room on

0:29:07.400 --> 0:29:09.680
<v Speaker 2>Saturday night. Yeah, and you and I both looked over

0:29:09.760 --> 0:29:11.600
<v Speaker 2>at each other, like, did we just step into a

0:29:11.680 --> 0:29:12.280
<v Speaker 2>time warp?

0:29:12.480 --> 0:29:13.480
<v Speaker 1>It was great.

0:29:13.880 --> 0:29:16.400
<v Speaker 2>Halftime was over and what felt like three minutes the

0:29:16.480 --> 0:29:19.560
<v Speaker 2>game was over and what felt like twenty minutes. I

0:29:19.560 --> 0:29:22.120
<v Speaker 2>don't know how you speed the game up, but I

0:29:22.160 --> 0:29:25.760
<v Speaker 2>should not have fallen asleep Mia Kolpa on that front.

0:29:25.800 --> 0:29:27.720
<v Speaker 2>But I did have a chance to go back and

0:29:27.760 --> 0:29:31.040
<v Speaker 2>watch it. And we're nothing if not honest here on

0:29:31.080 --> 0:29:32.760
<v Speaker 2>the program. The other thing I did want to mention,

0:29:33.520 --> 0:29:36.959
<v Speaker 2>which needs to be mentioned because it was awesome and

0:29:37.000 --> 0:29:40.440
<v Speaker 2>because the tweets on it were awesome. The referee in

0:29:40.520 --> 0:29:44.160
<v Speaker 2>this game had Giant Bear arms. Dan Yes he did,

0:29:44.680 --> 0:29:48.240
<v Speaker 2>Giant Bear did, and Chris Fowler all due credit to

0:29:48.280 --> 0:29:51.920
<v Speaker 2>Chris Fawlor for not only pointing it out a couple

0:29:52.000 --> 0:29:55.840
<v Speaker 2>times as it needed to be, but also referencing the

0:29:56.280 --> 0:29:58.000
<v Speaker 2>medium referee jersey that he was with.

0:29:58.680 --> 0:30:02.320
<v Speaker 1>It was tight. It was tight. Yeah.

0:30:02.320 --> 0:30:05.040
<v Speaker 3>I always like a good strong referee makes me feel

0:30:05.040 --> 0:30:07.440
<v Speaker 3>like he has command even if he doesn't of the proceedings.

0:30:08.560 --> 0:30:11.520
<v Speaker 2>So now, this is officially the end of the twenty

0:30:11.640 --> 0:30:16.320
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0:30:16.360 --> 0:30:19.440
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<v Speaker 2>you have it, Dan, Clemson again wins thirty five to

0:31:57.280 --> 0:32:01.640
<v Speaker 2>thirty one, a great way to out the college football season.

0:32:02.240 --> 0:32:06.160
<v Speaker 2>Clemson scores the go ahead game winning touchdown a short

0:32:06.160 --> 0:32:10.120
<v Speaker 2>pass to Hunter Renfro with one second remaining on the clock,

0:32:10.720 --> 0:32:14.160
<v Speaker 2>any party shots here on the season that was dan.

0:32:14.480 --> 0:32:17.120
<v Speaker 3>I think it was a good season, not a great season.

0:32:17.440 --> 0:32:19.720
<v Speaker 3>Great if you're a Clemson fan. Great if perhaps you're

0:32:19.760 --> 0:32:22.120
<v Speaker 3>a USC fan. You know, teams that sort of turned

0:32:22.120 --> 0:32:24.760
<v Speaker 3>on later on in the season improved. I think that's

0:32:24.760 --> 0:32:26.920
<v Speaker 3>the big thing. If your team got better and improved

0:32:26.920 --> 0:32:28.560
<v Speaker 3>over the course of the season, even if they end

0:32:28.600 --> 0:32:31.120
<v Speaker 3>up nine, three, eight and four, seven and five, whatever,

0:32:31.200 --> 0:32:35.800
<v Speaker 3>If there's optimism, that's the big win. Not a ton

0:32:36.000 --> 0:32:40.080
<v Speaker 3>of high level quarterback play, which usually helps to define

0:32:40.120 --> 0:32:43.040
<v Speaker 3>a really great season. Quarterback play all over the country.

0:32:43.080 --> 0:32:46.440
<v Speaker 3>But that's just my own personal preference in college football.

0:32:46.480 --> 0:32:49.560
<v Speaker 3>I know a lot of people love big defenses everywhere,

0:32:49.960 --> 0:32:52.520
<v Speaker 3>you know, power running games everywhere. I like it when

0:32:52.840 --> 0:32:55.280
<v Speaker 3>there are many quarterbacks in control, and it didn't seem

0:32:55.320 --> 0:32:57.719
<v Speaker 3>like that was the case this year. And we had

0:32:57.720 --> 0:32:59.800
<v Speaker 3>a couple of big injuries. You know, Josh Rosen was

0:32:59.800 --> 0:33:01.400
<v Speaker 3>out pretty early on, and a lot of people, I

0:33:01.400 --> 0:33:04.000
<v Speaker 3>think expected a lot from him in terms of development

0:33:04.000 --> 0:33:09.600
<v Speaker 3>as a big national quarterback moving forward. But all things considered,

0:33:10.240 --> 0:33:14.040
<v Speaker 3>it was weird. It was funny, it was impressive, it

0:33:14.080 --> 0:33:19.440
<v Speaker 3>was unexpected, and we somehow have Dabo Swinney face down

0:33:19.480 --> 0:33:23.320
<v Speaker 3>on the grass crime to end the year, so it

0:33:23.360 --> 0:33:24.760
<v Speaker 3>can't be all that bad.

0:33:24.880 --> 0:33:26.320
<v Speaker 1>So I enjoyed the season.

0:33:26.480 --> 0:33:28.880
<v Speaker 3>I thought we had a great year, just because I'm

0:33:29.000 --> 0:33:32.600
<v Speaker 3>entertained by you endlessly. And this is also to say

0:33:33.520 --> 0:33:37.400
<v Speaker 3>we're not stopping. We go all off season long. We've

0:33:37.400 --> 0:33:39.920
<v Speaker 3>got we already have shows banked that we did in

0:33:39.960 --> 0:33:43.440
<v Speaker 3>Tampa and before that, so there's a ton coming out.

0:33:43.520 --> 0:33:45.960
<v Speaker 3>We will revert to going once a week instead of

0:33:46.000 --> 0:33:50.320
<v Speaker 3>twice a week. But this is when things get particularly

0:33:51.200 --> 0:33:54.280
<v Speaker 3>weird and fun and honestly ty.

0:33:54.400 --> 0:33:56.520
<v Speaker 1>This is when we can get really nerdy.

0:33:56.160 --> 0:33:59.280
<v Speaker 3>Having stat guys on, having scheme guys on, all sorts

0:33:59.320 --> 0:34:01.520
<v Speaker 3>of X and o's. We're gonna have coaches on over

0:34:01.520 --> 0:34:03.640
<v Speaker 3>the course of the spring, particularly new guys. We love

0:34:03.680 --> 0:34:06.520
<v Speaker 3>having the new guys on that just accepted new jobs

0:34:06.560 --> 0:34:10.840
<v Speaker 3>all across college football. So this is when we really

0:34:10.960 --> 0:34:13.600
<v Speaker 3>like to produce. We have a little bit more time

0:34:13.640 --> 0:34:15.719
<v Speaker 3>to breathe and come up with concepts for shows. You

0:34:15.719 --> 0:34:18.560
<v Speaker 3>remember the verbies last year. You remember all sorts of

0:34:18.560 --> 0:34:21.799
<v Speaker 3>fun games and fantasy drafts, So this is when it

0:34:21.840 --> 0:34:25.399
<v Speaker 3>becomes more of a show than churning out podcasts, which

0:34:25.440 --> 0:34:26.080
<v Speaker 3>I really.

0:34:25.880 --> 0:34:29.600
<v Speaker 2>Like absolutely, Yeah, I thought it was a good season,

0:34:29.680 --> 0:34:34.120
<v Speaker 2>not a great season in terms of a football product.

0:34:34.520 --> 0:34:39.080
<v Speaker 2>Still better than the NFL, obviously, obviously because obviously, but

0:34:39.960 --> 0:34:43.440
<v Speaker 2>very curious to see now moving forward, how some of

0:34:43.480 --> 0:34:48.880
<v Speaker 2>the risers and fallers rebound or accelerate in twenty seventeen.

0:34:49.560 --> 0:34:51.200
<v Speaker 2>Both of our teams went four and eight.

0:34:51.719 --> 0:34:54.680
<v Speaker 1>Yes, they did, yours more notably, Yeah.

0:34:54.440 --> 0:34:56.440
<v Speaker 2>Mine more notably. Sure, but it's kind of tough to

0:34:56.520 --> 0:34:59.920
<v Speaker 2>overcome that black guy. If they do, it's a huge

0:35:00.080 --> 0:35:02.880
<v Speaker 2>story in twenty seventeen. If they don't, it might be

0:35:02.920 --> 0:35:03.920
<v Speaker 2>an even bigger story.

0:35:04.320 --> 0:35:05.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:35:05.200 --> 0:35:08.040
<v Speaker 2>So I thought a lot of what happened in twenty sixteen,

0:35:08.120 --> 0:35:12.240
<v Speaker 2>just on a personal college football fan level, is setting

0:35:12.280 --> 0:35:14.879
<v Speaker 2>us up for what's to come in twenty seventeen. Yes,

0:35:15.600 --> 0:35:18.200
<v Speaker 2>Oregon went out and hired a new coach. What happens there,

0:35:18.760 --> 0:35:20.480
<v Speaker 2>we'll see. And then on the flip side of that,

0:35:20.520 --> 0:35:23.120
<v Speaker 2>you got teams like USC and Penn State, both of

0:35:23.120 --> 0:35:25.360
<v Speaker 2>which came on like a freight train second half of

0:35:25.400 --> 0:35:28.160
<v Speaker 2>the season and clearly are going to have a ton

0:35:28.200 --> 0:35:31.400
<v Speaker 2>of momentum as they enter this coming football season. That

0:35:31.480 --> 0:35:34.480
<v Speaker 2>to me is the takeaway outside of this great finish

0:35:34.600 --> 0:35:36.880
<v Speaker 2>and a couple great bowl games to close out the season,

0:35:37.560 --> 0:35:40.520
<v Speaker 2>the risers and the fallers, and now what happens as

0:35:40.560 --> 0:35:43.160
<v Speaker 2>we enter the twenty seventeen season, That, to me is

0:35:43.160 --> 0:35:46.240
<v Speaker 2>what I'm going to follow closely. With all that being said,

0:35:46.840 --> 0:35:49.440
<v Speaker 2>I am excited to see what we're able to come

0:35:49.520 --> 0:35:51.520
<v Speaker 2>up with over the next couple months, because, as you said,

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<v Speaker 2>it's not all about churning out podcasts and game reviews

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<v Speaker 2>and previews and whatnot. We actually have a chance to

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<v Speaker 2>take a deep breath, look to see what people care about,

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<v Speaker 2>and focus in a little bit more intently on it.

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<v Speaker 3>The final a people came out ty yes, speaking of

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<v Speaker 3>the off season moving forward? Who is obviously Clemson one

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<v Speaker 3>Alabama too. Who's the number three team in the country

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<v Speaker 3>to finish the year?

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<v Speaker 2>I heard it was USC, and I do have a

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<v Speaker 2>sound Yeah, the high train is going to be in

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<v Speaker 2>full working order by the time we get to like July.

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<v Speaker 3>Clemson, Alabama, USC, Washington, Oklahoma, Ohio State, Penn State, Florida State, Wisconsin,

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<v Speaker 3>Michigan are your top ten. So by my count, we

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<v Speaker 3>have one, two ACC teams finishing in the top ten.

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<v Speaker 3>We have one, two, three, four Big Ten teams finishing

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<v Speaker 3>in the top ten. A very top heavy league though, still,

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<v Speaker 3>but there is the top and it's well deserved. All

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<v Speaker 3>of those teams, with the exception of Michigan, I think,

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<v Speaker 3>finished pretty strong well.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess Ohio.

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<v Speaker 3>States, sure they are, you know, on a a four

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<v Speaker 3>quarter the qualified for the playoff, but they did qualify

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<v Speaker 3>for the playoff. Oklahoma as a top five team. I

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<v Speaker 3>may have had them a little higher, but you know what,

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<v Speaker 3>that's fine, and they go into next season with Baker

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<v Speaker 3>Mayfield and in a pretty strong sense of momentum. Wisconsin

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<v Speaker 3>as a top ten team given their schedule is incredible.

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<v Speaker 3>Florida State, given the injuries all over the field and

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<v Speaker 3>how they finished the season, that's a pretty big victory

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<v Speaker 3>for the Seminoles and it sets up a pretty wide

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<v Speaker 3>open because after after that, like number eight, so we're

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<v Speaker 3>pretty confident in Ohio State, in Oklahoma and Penn State,

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<v Speaker 3>Washington USC having what should be very good twenty seventeens

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<v Speaker 3>after number eight. So like before, Wisconsin, Michigan, Oklahoma State, Stanford.

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<v Speaker 1>Nobody knows, no, I don't.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, this is not a preseason top twenty five.

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<v Speaker 3>This is a final top twenty five. But it is

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<v Speaker 3>so wide open fan.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, well, do stay tuned here to the solid verbal.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes.

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<v Speaker 2>We will clearly be talking much much more about this

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<v Speaker 2>as we progress now into twenty seventeen. As Dan mentioned,

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to go to once a week starting now,

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<v Speaker 2>so our next podcast will be about a week from today.

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<v Speaker 2>We're going to get back in the habit of publishing

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<v Speaker 2>every Wednesday, and the first show that you will hear

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<v Speaker 2>after this one will actually be a live recording of

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<v Speaker 2>the live show doing this weekend Saturday evening in New

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<v Speaker 2>York City at Hill Country Chicken. Tickets are completely sold out.

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<v Speaker 2>We do have some folks who I've added to a

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<v Speaker 2>waiting list in case other people report that they're unable

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<v Speaker 2>to attend, But this is sort of our first crack

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<v Speaker 2>at and we're excited about it. Will put that show

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<v Speaker 2>out into the wild next Wednesday, so you can listen

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<v Speaker 2>along and then maybe, if it's something you're into, buy

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<v Speaker 2>tickets to come to the next one, because if it

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<v Speaker 2>goes well, we will be doing a next one, So.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the plan.

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<v Speaker 2>In addition to that live show, We've got all sorts

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<v Speaker 2>of goodness coming your way over the course of the

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<v Speaker 2>next couple months. During the off season, going to talk

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<v Speaker 2>very closely about recruiting. Don't forget, National Signing Day comes

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<v Speaker 2>up first week of February.

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<v Speaker 1>Recruiting is three weeks from tomorrow time.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, recruiting is the lifeblood of college football. We will

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<v Speaker 2>cover it as we always do here on the podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>We've also got spring games that come up towards the

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<v Speaker 2>end of March and all throughout April, and along the

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<v Speaker 2>way we'll talk to a bunch of new coaches. We'll

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<v Speaker 2>deep dive some of the topics that college football fans

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<v Speaker 2>care deeply about.

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<v Speaker 1>Yep.

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<v Speaker 2>And of course we'll bring our normal amount of weirdness

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<v Speaker 2>to the college football either, I would hope. So that's

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<v Speaker 2>what we do. Yeah, that is all I have, Dan,

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<v Speaker 2>That's everything I've got. We have a long off season

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<v Speaker 2>to talk about anything that we perhaps forgot on this show.

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<v Speaker 2>Congratulations to the Clemson Tigers. Congratulations to Alabama as well

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<v Speaker 2>on a hard fought game and two great seasons.

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<v Speaker 1>And above all, Dan, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Congratulations to fans of all teams now because we're all

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<v Speaker 2>undefeated once more. For that guy over there, Dan Rubinstein,

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<v Speaker 2>for myself, Tie hilding Brand, thanks again for tuning in.

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<v Speaker 2>Catchy all Next week's stay Solid Peace