1 00:00:02,200 --> 00:00:06,880 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Solid Verbal. I'm that for me. I'm 2 00:00:06,920 --> 00:00:08,160 Speaker 1: a man, I'm forty. 3 00:00:08,280 --> 00:00:10,119 Speaker 2: I've heard so many players say, well, I want to 4 00:00:10,160 --> 00:00:10,639 Speaker 2: be happy. 5 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:13,000 Speaker 1: You want to be happy for Dake Ado State? 6 00:00:13,360 --> 00:00:14,480 Speaker 2: Is that? Woo woom? 7 00:00:14,960 --> 00:00:16,520 Speaker 1: And Dan and. 8 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:21,560 Speaker 2: Tie welcome back to the Solid Verbal boys and girls. 9 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:25,919 Speaker 2: Ty hilde Brand over here, Dan Rubinstein over there. Solid 10 00:00:25,960 --> 00:00:30,360 Speaker 2: Verbal at gmail dot com as always is our email address. 11 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:30,960 Speaker 1: Don't forget. 12 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:35,559 Speaker 2: You can subscribe at iTunes dot com, slash solid Verbal, 13 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:40,879 Speaker 2: or wherever your favorite college football podcasts are sold. 14 00:00:41,520 --> 00:00:44,480 Speaker 1: Sir, how are you old? Can we be making money 15 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:47,479 Speaker 1: off of this from people? What is that a thing? Maybe? 16 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:50,440 Speaker 1: I don't know where available? I am. 17 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:52,720 Speaker 3: I sound sick, but I'm feeling better. I just have 18 00:00:53,159 --> 00:00:56,800 Speaker 3: just gunk in my head at this point. I'm good. 19 00:00:56,840 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 3: We have a national champion. We had a a rates 20 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:03,760 Speaker 3: albeit very long, national championship game that I think you 21 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:08,840 Speaker 3: can probably speak to specifically, and I couldn't be happier 22 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:10,679 Speaker 3: that we had a back and forth, and we have 23 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:13,640 Speaker 3: a national champion whose fan base has not been in 24 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 3: this space in quite some time. 25 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 2: Let's jump right in, Dan, Yeah, we have breaking new 26 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:32,720 Speaker 2: your twenty sixteen to seventeen national champion is officially the 27 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:38,119 Speaker 2: Clemson Tigers. Clemson wins by a thirty five to thirty 28 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:41,880 Speaker 2: one score. As you mentioned, a back and forth game, 29 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:45,200 Speaker 2: an epic showdown, perhaps the best game of the year, 30 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 2: maybe the best national championship game that we've seen since 31 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:52,280 Speaker 2: that epic USC Texas game in the Rose Bowl about 32 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 2: ten years ago. What was your take watching this football game, Dan? 33 00:01:56,480 --> 00:01:58,960 Speaker 2: What were the key points that jumped out to you? 34 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 2: Other than the fact that this was a great football 35 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:07,880 Speaker 2: game between two awesome teams and a fantastic singular performance 36 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:08,840 Speaker 2: by de Sean Watson. 37 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:12,560 Speaker 3: My takeaway is I hope Deshaun Watson has access to 38 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 3: a hot tub for like the next week. I hope 39 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:20,520 Speaker 3: that he has access to massage therapy and cold tubs 40 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 3: and hot tubs and naps and more napping and sixteen 41 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:29,320 Speaker 3: hour nights of sleep because he took so much abuse 42 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 3: to get and pull Clemson past the finish line for 43 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 3: the National championship. And which is also to say the 44 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:41,440 Speaker 3: Clemson defense did as well, standing up to Alabama's offense, 45 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:45,440 Speaker 3: namely the rushing attack, with or without both Scarborough that 46 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:48,960 Speaker 3: there was there was nothing easy, and this is something 47 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 3: I talked about in the postgame show I did with 48 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:52,720 Speaker 3: our pal Ryan Nanny at the day job at Espanation 49 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:57,400 Speaker 3: is that we've seen national championships in which there are breakdowns, 50 00:02:57,480 --> 00:03:00,120 Speaker 3: and certainly there was a breakdown for Clemson's defense on 51 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 3: that long Oj Howard touchdown. But for Clemson to win 52 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:08,480 Speaker 3: this game, there wasn't a single play that was taking 53 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:12,520 Speaker 3: advantage of an Alabama breakdown. They earned every single inch 54 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:18,040 Speaker 3: and that is an incredible feat against what I still 55 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:19,960 Speaker 3: think and what I would still consider to be the 56 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:24,680 Speaker 3: best college football thing, which is Alabama's front seven, their 57 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 3: rush defense particularly, and the way that they get to 58 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:30,359 Speaker 3: a quarterback in the passing game. The fact that Clemson 59 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:33,120 Speaker 3: was able to defeat them while they were playing at 60 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:36,400 Speaker 3: an extraordinarily high level. We're talking about a senior laid 61 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 3: in front seven as well, We're not just talking about 62 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 3: pure talent, talent and experience and age and intelligence. That 63 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:47,120 Speaker 3: to me is the incredibly impressive thing that they were 64 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 3: able to weather that sort of just extreme success. 65 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:52,840 Speaker 1: Absolutely. 66 00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 2: Deshaun Watson, I think cemented his legacy, is probably the 67 00:03:57,480 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 2: best player in the history of Clemson Football's clearly one 68 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 2: of the best big game players of all time. Dan 69 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 2: that final drive last night was the kind of thing 70 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:09,880 Speaker 2: that every kid envisions when you're playing around in the backyard. 71 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 2: I didn't even play organized football, but when I was eight, 72 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:17,240 Speaker 2: even sometimes in the holidays, when I'm like thirty, we'll 73 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 2: go out in the backyard. We'll pretend we're running that 74 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:22,800 Speaker 2: two minute drill to try and win something big. Yep, 75 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 2: the moment never seems too big. 76 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:27,599 Speaker 1: For Deshaun Watson. No, absolutely not. 77 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 2: And that's the one thing that comes up time and 78 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:32,520 Speaker 2: time again when you see in these situations, even if 79 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:35,800 Speaker 2: he's in that dream scenario that you plan for, that 80 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:38,280 Speaker 2: you hope for when you're a little kid, even when 81 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:40,919 Speaker 2: he's getting crushed on every play, as you eluded a 82 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:46,320 Speaker 2: few minutes ago, no interceptions last night, twenty one carries 83 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:49,120 Speaker 2: for forty three big yards, a big rushing touchdown, almost 84 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:52,080 Speaker 2: had a second rushing touchdown when he tried to superman 85 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:55,640 Speaker 2: in from the five yard line. Thirty six of fifty 86 00:04:55,680 --> 00:04:59,480 Speaker 2: six passing, four to twenty through the air, three. 87 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:00,920 Speaker 1: Touchdowns through the air. 88 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:03,880 Speaker 2: The guy has a quiet confidence to him, and when 89 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:06,359 Speaker 2: his team needs him the most, that's when he steps up. 90 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:08,919 Speaker 2: It's what we talked about in all of the preview 91 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:11,800 Speaker 2: shows we had done leading up to the National Championship. 92 00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:15,039 Speaker 2: This game was going to be a function of what 93 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:17,680 Speaker 2: Deshaun Watson could do on his own. Now he had 94 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:19,760 Speaker 2: plenty of help, and we'll talk about what his receiving 95 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:23,040 Speaker 2: corps did and how it rose to the occasion. Deshaun Watson, 96 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:26,480 Speaker 2: I thought, the best singular entity in this game. We 97 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:29,919 Speaker 2: knew it going in. If he had this kind of game, 98 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:32,920 Speaker 2: Clemson clearly had a shot to win. He pulled it off. 99 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:35,320 Speaker 2: They pulled it off. Now, the th the National champs. 100 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:38,240 Speaker 3: Throwing the ball fifty six times no less. If that 101 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:41,560 Speaker 3: is a number that you're hearing against Alabama, that's generally 102 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:44,800 Speaker 3: a bad thing because it indicates the rush is not there. 103 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:47,359 Speaker 3: And the rush was one hundred percent not there for 104 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:50,359 Speaker 3: Clemson by Deshaun Watson, by Wayne Gollman, Buye, whoever. So 105 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:53,240 Speaker 3: Clemson loses the rushing battle in a big way. I 106 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:55,120 Speaker 3: think they're out gained on the ground two twenty one 107 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:58,200 Speaker 3: to ninety one, and it was it was like six 108 00:05:58,200 --> 00:06:00,800 Speaker 3: and a half yards per carry it to to whatever. Yeah, 109 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:02,520 Speaker 3: it's for Kerry. Clemson could not move the ball on 110 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:05,559 Speaker 3: the ground at all, and they lose the turnover battle, 111 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:08,159 Speaker 3: and Clemson moves to something like fifteen and one or 112 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 3: something when they have two turnovers or more. 113 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:12,160 Speaker 1: They're just so good at overcoming. 114 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:16,080 Speaker 3: And I think it's pretty clearly a reflection of Davioswinny 115 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 3: and the coaching staff that Clemson just sort of has 116 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:22,280 Speaker 3: singular focus and has unwavering confidence in their ability even 117 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:26,279 Speaker 3: with setbacks like turnovers. But for Alabama, the story was 118 00:06:26,320 --> 00:06:31,720 Speaker 3: clearly offensive struggles. Uh not willing to really open the 119 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 3: playbook up with Jalen Hurtz throw the ball downfield a ton. 120 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:36,760 Speaker 3: They had a little bit of success, we had that 121 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:40,279 Speaker 3: broken play that not broken play but the great sort 122 00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:43,800 Speaker 3: of screen fake, and then Oj Howard running unimpeded down 123 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:47,839 Speaker 3: the sideline. But beyond that, it was a one dimensional 124 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:51,119 Speaker 3: attack in that it was like like a twelve yard 125 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:54,599 Speaker 3: field that Alabama was playing with on offense, and once 126 00:06:54,680 --> 00:06:59,039 Speaker 3: both Scarborough went down and yes, huge factor, but he's 127 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:00,720 Speaker 3: not their only running back and he's not their only 128 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:04,720 Speaker 3: running back that can turn out chunks of yardage. It 129 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:09,240 Speaker 3: was it was a different story for Alabama's offense, and I. 130 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:10,520 Speaker 1: Would have liked to see that. 131 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 3: I would have liked to see them get maybe more 132 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:15,200 Speaker 3: creative with their rushing attack, you know, spread the ball 133 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:17,960 Speaker 3: out a little more, look for like some more tossy, 134 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:22,360 Speaker 3: reedy option e things that they could almost play action 135 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 3: off of. But adjusting on the fly to losing Bo 136 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:29,680 Speaker 3: Scarborough probably is much more easy in theory than it 137 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:33,840 Speaker 3: is an execution, especially with a first game offensive coordinator 138 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:36,840 Speaker 3: in Steve Sarkasian. So that, to me was the story 139 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 3: Alabama's inability to adjust to a great defensive performance from 140 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 3: Clemson and having a what seemed like a very small 141 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:47,080 Speaker 3: playbook for Jalen Hurts downfield. 142 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:47,760 Speaker 1: I would agree. 143 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:52,160 Speaker 2: I think the final stanza now of Alabama's season is 144 00:07:52,200 --> 00:07:55,960 Speaker 2: that even with the best defense in college football, you 145 00:07:56,040 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 2: need more balance on offense to win a championship. In 146 00:07:59,400 --> 00:08:02,880 Speaker 2: their two biggest games of this season Dan Washington and Clemson, 147 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:06,280 Speaker 2: Jalen Hurts had his two worst games in terms of 148 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:09,120 Speaker 2: yards per attempt. In the Washington game, he was a 149 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:13,440 Speaker 2: shade under four point one yards per attempt. In this 150 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:17,440 Speaker 2: game against Clemson, a shade over four point two yards 151 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:21,200 Speaker 2: per attempt. So, to your point, not very creative, not 152 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:24,800 Speaker 2: very wide open. There are a bunch of viable reasons 153 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 2: why those numbers are lower. By the way, and it's 154 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:30,560 Speaker 2: not all on Jalen Hurts. Part of that is absolutely 155 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:35,000 Speaker 2: going up against two great pass defenses that definitely plays 156 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:37,360 Speaker 2: a factor. Part of that could also be the game 157 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:41,200 Speaker 2: plan being too conservative or run heavy. Could have something 158 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:43,920 Speaker 2: to do with a new offensive coordinator. Part of that 159 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:46,720 Speaker 2: could also be Jalen Hurts needing to mature as a passer. 160 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:50,440 Speaker 2: He's got much more time at Alabama to do that, 161 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:53,240 Speaker 2: and I suspect that he will. I don't think any 162 00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:56,560 Speaker 2: of it reflects poorly on Alabama, and certainly they're not 163 00:08:56,559 --> 00:08:58,800 Speaker 2: going to get sympathy from the college football world because 164 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:03,000 Speaker 2: they lost. This game didn't look as pyrotechnic on offense. 165 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:05,720 Speaker 2: But I think it's an important footnote as they now 166 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:08,760 Speaker 2: try to build this thing in twenty seventeen. If you're 167 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:11,560 Speaker 2: a Bama fan, if you're a college football fan, that's 168 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:14,560 Speaker 2: what you watch for. You already know that Alabama can 169 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:17,600 Speaker 2: run the football, both with Hurts or whoever is in 170 00:09:17,640 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 2: the backfield. The second missing piece now is going to 171 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 2: be passing, because lord knows, they've got plenty of toys 172 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:27,240 Speaker 2: out wide. It's not just oj Howard. Calvin Ridley had 173 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:29,959 Speaker 2: five catches for what thirty six yards. Plenty of guys 174 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:32,160 Speaker 2: all around the field who can catch the ball, can 175 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:34,760 Speaker 2: make plays in open space. They just weren't able to 176 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:37,199 Speaker 2: put those guys in a position to really make those plays. 177 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:39,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean they Clems were just sitting on all 178 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 3: the short stuff for daring Jalen Hurts to throw the 179 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:45,680 Speaker 3: ball downfield and make bigger throws than perhaps he was 180 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:48,480 Speaker 3: able to against this defense. Are allowed to against this defense, 181 00:09:48,520 --> 00:09:51,560 Speaker 3: And it should also totally be noted with all due 182 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 3: fairness and respect, Jalen Hurts the Alabama offense. If going 183 00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:58,400 Speaker 3: into this game you said, okay, well Alabama has the 184 00:09:58,400 --> 00:10:02,360 Speaker 3: Alabama defense, we agree, Alabama has that thing on one 185 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:06,800 Speaker 3: side of the ball that just monstrous entity. Should thirty 186 00:10:06,800 --> 00:10:10,000 Speaker 3: one points be enough to beat Clemson? Probably? 187 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 2: Yeah? 188 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:12,480 Speaker 1: Probably. 189 00:10:12,760 --> 00:10:15,400 Speaker 3: I mean with what Clemson has done this year with 190 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:18,640 Speaker 3: turning the ball over in in unfortunate spots, you know, 191 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:20,599 Speaker 3: playing a little sloppier, you know, not being able to 192 00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:24,720 Speaker 3: generate the rush, especially thirty one points with Clemson not 193 00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:28,160 Speaker 3: able to run the ball, that should be enough. Yeah, 194 00:10:28,160 --> 00:10:30,600 Speaker 3: And that I think it much more speaks to Clemson's 195 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:33,160 Speaker 3: ability and to Shaun Watson's ability to come through in 196 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:35,320 Speaker 3: the fourth quarter, which, by the way, should also be 197 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:38,160 Speaker 3: noted our pow Ryan Anny looked this up. How many 198 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:42,800 Speaker 3: points did Alabama give up in the fourth quarter since 199 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:47,520 Speaker 3: the Arkansas game October eighth in the fourth quarter, So 200 00:10:47,559 --> 00:10:50,880 Speaker 3: we're talking about eight straight games I believe since October eighth. Ye, 201 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:54,640 Speaker 3: Alabama before giving up twenty one to Clemson in the 202 00:10:54,640 --> 00:10:57,719 Speaker 3: fourth quarter last night, combined in those one hundred and 203 00:10:57,800 --> 00:11:00,960 Speaker 3: twenty minutes to give up zero fourth quarter point no, 204 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:07,360 Speaker 3: so thirty one points and knowing that your fourth quarter 205 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:11,640 Speaker 3: defense has been exceptional all things considered, and Jalen Hurts 206 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:14,439 Speaker 3: had you know, obviously an excellent run on the ground 207 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:17,040 Speaker 3: for a touchdown late. But what came back to haunt 208 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:19,360 Speaker 3: Alabama was and this was sort of an all season 209 00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:23,040 Speaker 3: long thing that didn't seem to matter, but third downs, 210 00:11:23,040 --> 00:11:26,000 Speaker 3: which are you know, just as important in and of 211 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:29,480 Speaker 3: itself that it is. I don't know what I'm trying 212 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:31,360 Speaker 3: to say here, that it's a product of first and 213 00:11:31,400 --> 00:11:33,320 Speaker 3: second down as well as being a big spot on 214 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:37,200 Speaker 3: offense during drives. Alabama was two of fifteen on third downs. 215 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 3: And Jalen Hurts this season when you put him in 216 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:45,080 Speaker 3: an obvious passing downs like third and six, third and seven, plus. 217 00:11:45,240 --> 00:11:47,360 Speaker 1: He was not very good. And we hammered on this 218 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:48,160 Speaker 1: in the pre show. 219 00:11:48,520 --> 00:11:51,280 Speaker 3: If they can force those situations, if they can force 220 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:54,280 Speaker 3: no brainer passing downs where they know they can pressure him, 221 00:11:54,280 --> 00:11:57,480 Speaker 3: then they can blitz and sit on short stuff that 222 00:11:57,840 --> 00:12:01,040 Speaker 3: Jalen hurts is going to struggle. Fact that they still 223 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:05,760 Speaker 3: scored thirty one points is sort of a testament to 224 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:07,840 Speaker 3: weathering some obvious deficiencies. 225 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:11,480 Speaker 2: I saw it written somewhere, and forgive me for not 226 00:12:11,679 --> 00:12:14,559 Speaker 2: citing properly. It might have been Spencer, not you. Yeah, 227 00:12:14,679 --> 00:12:19,160 Speaker 2: definitely not me. The gist of this was that Alabama 228 00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:23,680 Speaker 2: saw a lot of meaningful fourth quarter plays in this 229 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:28,920 Speaker 2: game from Clemson. Defensively, that's not something they're accustomed to seeing. 230 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:31,960 Speaker 2: By the time they get to the fourth quarter. In 231 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:34,520 Speaker 2: a lot of the games they play, the plays themselves 232 00:12:34,520 --> 00:12:37,320 Speaker 2: don't mean a whole lot in this game, obviously, it 233 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:40,360 Speaker 2: was a fight to the finish, and the implication was 234 00:12:40,440 --> 00:12:43,800 Speaker 2: that because Clemson tried to spread out and run to 235 00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:46,000 Speaker 2: the perimeter as much as they did early on in 236 00:12:46,040 --> 00:12:49,520 Speaker 2: the game, perhaps they wore out Alabama's defensive front, and 237 00:12:49,559 --> 00:12:53,320 Speaker 2: the meaningful plays later on in the game Clemson had 238 00:12:53,360 --> 00:12:54,800 Speaker 2: worn them down by that point. 239 00:12:55,240 --> 00:12:58,840 Speaker 3: I'm trying to say if Alabama had entered a fourth 240 00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:03,720 Speaker 3: quarter not by double digits. I know the Old Miss 241 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:07,320 Speaker 3: game was a back and forth. Looks like I'm looking 242 00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:09,880 Speaker 3: at Alabama Arkansas, that did not appear to be the case. 243 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:15,160 Speaker 3: Alabama LSU was ten points obviously in the end, and 244 00:13:15,360 --> 00:13:17,120 Speaker 3: all those points were scored in the fourth quarter, so 245 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:18,200 Speaker 3: a scoreless going into it. 246 00:13:18,240 --> 00:13:18,760 Speaker 1: So that was. 247 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:23,679 Speaker 3: Probably the only real example of Alabama's defense giving full 248 00:13:23,800 --> 00:13:27,080 Speaker 3: attention knowing that a game was in the balance, at 249 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:33,240 Speaker 3: least recently. So you're right, and Alabama's defense is built 250 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:36,559 Speaker 3: to shut down teams for four full quarters. And I 251 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:39,640 Speaker 3: don't think it's a full excuse that Alabama's defense finally 252 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:44,240 Speaker 3: had to play meaningful fourth quarter minutes. But man, Deshaun Watson, 253 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:46,920 Speaker 3: Hunter Renfro, the ability to spread the ball around, Mike 254 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:50,000 Speaker 3: Williams making enormous catches, you know, a presence both he 255 00:13:50,040 --> 00:13:53,080 Speaker 3: and Mike Williams and Dion Kane in this game, not 256 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:57,160 Speaker 3: in this game last year, just enormous, just in a 257 00:13:57,200 --> 00:14:01,480 Speaker 3: game where once again, nothing was easy, there was nothing routine, 258 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:04,520 Speaker 3: there was no play. It seemed that like Mike Williams, 259 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:07,760 Speaker 3: you know, had like a slant that sort of froze 260 00:14:07,760 --> 00:14:11,119 Speaker 3: a corner or something like that and took it seventeen yards. 261 00:14:11,400 --> 00:14:14,520 Speaker 3: Everything was by three and a half inches something like that. 262 00:14:14,679 --> 00:14:20,440 Speaker 3: So an unbelievable performance from Clemson. Everything sort of came 263 00:14:20,520 --> 00:14:24,120 Speaker 3: together bite just a hair, and that's that's crazy. 264 00:14:24,280 --> 00:14:27,200 Speaker 2: I have a very important question here. Yeah, did you 265 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:30,600 Speaker 2: see the final play, the on side kick? No, no, no, no, no, 266 00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:34,120 Speaker 2: the final touchdown? Oh, the final touchdown? Yeah, of course. 267 00:14:34,440 --> 00:14:37,160 Speaker 2: Did you have any problem with that rub play? 268 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:40,720 Speaker 3: Okay, so this is something that obviously you are going 269 00:14:40,760 --> 00:14:45,080 Speaker 3: to feel a particular passion point about as a notre dame. 270 00:14:45,240 --> 00:14:45,520 Speaker 1: I don't. 271 00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:47,880 Speaker 2: I don't have a problem with it. I think I 272 00:14:47,920 --> 00:14:51,280 Speaker 2: think it was fine. I think the officials were calling 273 00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:52,320 Speaker 2: the game very loosely. 274 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:55,520 Speaker 1: Yeah. Not the only pick play touchdown in this game, either. 275 00:14:55,400 --> 00:14:57,920 Speaker 2: Not the only not the only rub touchdown shore. Yeah, 276 00:14:58,040 --> 00:15:01,520 Speaker 2: I am fine with I thought. But Elliott did a 277 00:15:01,520 --> 00:15:05,360 Speaker 2: really good job explaining why it was an offensive pass interference. 278 00:15:05,720 --> 00:15:09,840 Speaker 2: Right defender initiated contact. The receiver was doing his best 279 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:13,480 Speaker 2: to at least sell running a passing route. It wasn't 280 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:16,520 Speaker 2: as if he went out there and overtly tried to 281 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:19,080 Speaker 2: block the defender. So I'm okay with those plays. I'm 282 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:21,960 Speaker 2: sure they're gonna be Alabama fans will feel differently. That 283 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:24,920 Speaker 2: is the main primary difference between what we saw last 284 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:28,320 Speaker 2: night on two separate occasions, mind you, versus what we 285 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:30,400 Speaker 2: saw in the Notre Dame game like two years ago. 286 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:33,000 Speaker 2: That was clearly a different story. 287 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:38,360 Speaker 3: I don't have a problem with it if receivers are 288 00:15:38,480 --> 00:15:42,480 Speaker 3: taught to play within the rules of how officials see 289 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:46,200 Speaker 3: those plays. So the defenders initiating contact and sort of 290 00:15:46,560 --> 00:15:49,280 Speaker 3: looking to the quarterback for the ball, you know, putting 291 00:15:49,320 --> 00:15:53,080 Speaker 3: your hands out so sort of conceivably running a route. 292 00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:58,160 Speaker 3: Clemson's players, to me, to my eyes, ran those routes 293 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:03,840 Speaker 3: plause enough that it was sort of on Alabama. And 294 00:16:03,880 --> 00:16:06,720 Speaker 3: you know, there are teams that succeed against those kinds 295 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:09,400 Speaker 3: of routes, that are able to sort of match up 296 00:16:09,480 --> 00:16:11,840 Speaker 3: and switch and do what is necessarily. I believe that 297 00:16:11,920 --> 00:16:15,240 Speaker 3: the Super Bowl ends on one of those with Seattle 298 00:16:15,240 --> 00:16:15,720 Speaker 3: and New England. 299 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:16,440 Speaker 1: I believe so. 300 00:16:16,520 --> 00:16:19,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, I believe it is so you can stop those 301 00:16:20,880 --> 00:16:24,080 Speaker 3: But good for Clemson four. 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So obviously on ESPN you've got 350 00:18:59,160 --> 00:19:01,840 Speaker 2: Fowler and Herbstreem, who do a bang up job. 351 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:04,360 Speaker 1: Rinaldi ponder on the sideline, Yeah. 352 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:05,720 Speaker 2: Ronaldi ponder on the sideline. 353 00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:06,000 Speaker 1: Sure. 354 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:10,160 Speaker 2: You also had the ESPN homer Feed on ESPN two, 355 00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:14,800 Speaker 2: which featured Joe Tess and Barrett Jones. 356 00:19:14,920 --> 00:19:19,119 Speaker 1: Whoa, whoa, whoa, Adam Amen, That's where I'm going with it. 357 00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:22,159 Speaker 2: I was gonna say, on the Clarson side, Wow, okay, 358 00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:26,160 Speaker 2: our new best pal adam Aman yep sidled up with 359 00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:29,640 Speaker 2: the ToJ Boyd. So they had the ESPN homer Feed. 360 00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:33,199 Speaker 2: And then on ESPN News, I want to say it 361 00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:37,240 Speaker 2: was the ESPN Film Room. It featured a bunch of coaches. 362 00:19:37,240 --> 00:19:38,840 Speaker 2: Did you have a chance to check out any of 363 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:40,320 Speaker 2: those other broadcasts? 364 00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:41,080 Speaker 1: I did. 365 00:19:41,119 --> 00:19:44,639 Speaker 3: I watched a little bit of the coaches. The problem 366 00:19:44,800 --> 00:19:48,840 Speaker 3: was our office. I guess we don't get ESPN. 367 00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:50,600 Speaker 1: News in the sp Nation office. Really, hey for the 368 00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:52,520 Speaker 1: full package that includes ESPN News. 369 00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:52,800 Speaker 2: Wow. 370 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:55,160 Speaker 3: So I put it on watch ESPN on my computer 371 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:56,800 Speaker 3: and watched a little bit of that, but it was 372 00:19:56,840 --> 00:19:59,400 Speaker 3: a good like thirty forty seconds behind, so that made 373 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:01,359 Speaker 3: it a little bit more or difficult to sort of 374 00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:03,200 Speaker 3: pay attention to both because I did want to see 375 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:04,560 Speaker 3: what was happening live on TV. 376 00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:09,480 Speaker 1: But Dino Babers was great. Yeah, Matt Rule was really 377 00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:10,720 Speaker 1: really good. Matt Rule. 378 00:20:10,840 --> 00:20:13,760 Speaker 2: I thought Matt Rule and Dino Babers stole the show. 379 00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:16,560 Speaker 3: Yes, I thought those were the two best. And they 380 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:18,440 Speaker 3: got snacks in there, which is yes. 381 00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:21,000 Speaker 2: Kilanie Sataki did not talk. 382 00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:23,880 Speaker 3: No, he did not. I did not tell Fridge Mark 383 00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:26,560 Speaker 3: Helfrisch was supposed to be in that room. I was 384 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:28,760 Speaker 3: very curious, but he ended up not being there. 385 00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:31,840 Speaker 2: Kalanie Sataki did not talk, and I saw that. Somebody 386 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:35,440 Speaker 2: on Twitter noted that the only real notable action from 387 00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:37,720 Speaker 2: Klanie Sataki is when they brought the snacks out. 388 00:20:37,760 --> 00:20:40,120 Speaker 1: He was the first to jump all over that absolutely. 389 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:44,760 Speaker 2: Otherwise, the coaches feed was sort of difficult to digest. 390 00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:49,159 Speaker 2: There wasn't a whole lot of organization to who was 391 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:51,600 Speaker 2: saying something and when they were saying it, So unless 392 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:54,800 Speaker 2: you were really in the weeds into the x's and 393 00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:58,280 Speaker 2: o's and know the keywords to listen for, it was 394 00:20:58,359 --> 00:21:01,440 Speaker 2: difficult to figure out and just what was actually being said. 395 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:03,239 Speaker 2: A lot of guys just yell and stuff and oh 396 00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:06,200 Speaker 2: look at that cover two here comes to safety. There 397 00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:10,119 Speaker 2: wasn't much organization around the actual commentary, but Matt Ruhlandino 398 00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:12,680 Speaker 2: Baber's I thought, brought a little personality to that side 399 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:15,120 Speaker 2: of the broadcast, which was a lot of fun to watch. 400 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:18,280 Speaker 2: I enjoyed it to the extent I could understand what 401 00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:18,760 Speaker 2: was going on. 402 00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:21,720 Speaker 3: I might cut that to like three or four coaches 403 00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:26,240 Speaker 3: next time. Yeah, And I would imagine that the big 404 00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:29,239 Speaker 3: interesting parts of that feed was like the because they 405 00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:31,359 Speaker 3: I don't think they really went to commercials all that much, 406 00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:35,000 Speaker 3: so commercials at halftime to sort of talk big picture 407 00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:36,600 Speaker 3: about what teams are trying to do. I thought it's 408 00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:38,919 Speaker 3: a really interesting concept. I think they're still honing it. 409 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:42,040 Speaker 3: And then on another feed they had Bill Walton dressed 410 00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:45,880 Speaker 3: as a seven foot uncle sichel saying about pot and all. 411 00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:49,119 Speaker 1: Sorts of aliens and all sorts of filings. So this 412 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:50,000 Speaker 1: is totally true. 413 00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:52,360 Speaker 3: So if you haven't go back and find some vines 414 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:56,080 Speaker 3: or videos or whatever, because it was wonderful just the 415 00:21:56,080 --> 00:21:57,639 Speaker 3: Bill Walton part. I mean, I think it was a 416 00:21:57,640 --> 00:21:59,840 Speaker 3: lot of people talking over each other otherwise, and I 417 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:03,800 Speaker 3: think Paul Finebaum did something Okay, no idea, but I yeah, 418 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:05,240 Speaker 3: I was mainly just watching the game. 419 00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:06,520 Speaker 1: After the fact, I'll go and. 420 00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:09,040 Speaker 3: Scan through the coaches feed to see if they were 421 00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:10,960 Speaker 3: talking about anything interesting, but that's about it. 422 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:14,080 Speaker 2: There was a cool bit where Mike McIntyre clearly went 423 00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:18,240 Speaker 2: to the men's room and they all they all ganged 424 00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:20,000 Speaker 2: up on him, joking that he was going to talk 425 00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:22,000 Speaker 2: to his financial advisor because he just signed like a 426 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:23,280 Speaker 2: thirty million dollar extension. 427 00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:26,960 Speaker 1: It's true. No, he's in Boulder for a bit now, 428 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:27,520 Speaker 1: Good for him. 429 00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:30,159 Speaker 2: So that was fun. And then of course the Homer 430 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:33,280 Speaker 2: feed I thought was outstanding good And I'm not just 431 00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:36,720 Speaker 2: saying it because Adam Amine is like one of our 432 00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:39,720 Speaker 2: favorite commentators, but he and joy Test did a great 433 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:42,960 Speaker 2: job painting the picture of the game from the sidelines, 434 00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:46,399 Speaker 2: talked about the experience of being there, really tried to 435 00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:50,760 Speaker 2: cover the emotion of both sidelines. That was a lot 436 00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:53,600 Speaker 2: of fun to watch. Again, it's a different way to 437 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:55,800 Speaker 2: look at the broadcast, and I saw Adam even mentioned 438 00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:58,080 Speaker 2: on his Twitter feed might not be everyone's cup of tea, 439 00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:03,320 Speaker 2: but certainly a different perspective that gave you a new 440 00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:04,200 Speaker 2: way to watch the game. 441 00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:07,320 Speaker 3: Game lasted a long time too, Ty, Yeah, you have 442 00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:11,240 Speaker 3: you have a personal I am aware of this, So 443 00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:15,000 Speaker 3: what was your game watching situation? I watched from work 444 00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:17,480 Speaker 3: because we're doing a pre and post show wake Up 445 00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:22,120 Speaker 3: College Football on YouTube. So that was my general game 446 00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:25,919 Speaker 3: watching situation. But this lasted. This game lasted right about 447 00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:29,320 Speaker 3: four hours and fifteen minutes, which I was I was 448 00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:31,200 Speaker 3: timing it. I was paying close attention because I wanted 449 00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:34,040 Speaker 3: to see if it would equal or surpass Game seven 450 00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:36,199 Speaker 3: of Cubs Indians went four to twenty eight, and that 451 00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:38,560 Speaker 3: was ten innings with the seventeen minute weather delay. 452 00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:43,600 Speaker 1: With the weather delay, Yeah right, how'd you do not well? 453 00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:45,000 Speaker 1: What does that mean? 454 00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:47,040 Speaker 2: I didn't do well well? As we were down in 455 00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:50,480 Speaker 2: Tampa and we both our plan was this. Our plan 456 00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:53,840 Speaker 2: was to go early on Friday to get set up 457 00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:56,600 Speaker 2: and do our interviews and finish up our preview show, 458 00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:59,119 Speaker 2: which I hope everybody liked. We got good reviews on 459 00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:02,120 Speaker 2: it so far right And actually, if you go back 460 00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:05,280 Speaker 2: and listen after the fact, there weren't any glaring mistakes 461 00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:07,679 Speaker 2: in anything that we said. I thought the preview did 462 00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:10,520 Speaker 2: a pretty good job painting what was to be expected 463 00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:12,560 Speaker 2: in the game in it in the end kind of 464 00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:15,400 Speaker 2: turned out the way we thought it could fearless prediction. 465 00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:19,320 Speaker 3: That's Rubinstein, that's right, called the quarterback alter of Dancy, 466 00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:23,280 Speaker 3: called third downs, called a close Clemson win, continue. 467 00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:25,280 Speaker 2: Alter of Dan. But the plan was to go in 468 00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:30,320 Speaker 2: early on Friday, which we did, recorded all Friday, all Saturday, 469 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:32,800 Speaker 2: most of Sunday, and then you and I both had 470 00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:35,520 Speaker 2: late flights out of Tampa to get back in time 471 00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:39,320 Speaker 2: to our respective homes to watch the games from the 472 00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:42,120 Speaker 2: comfort of our own living room or the office or wherever. Yeah, 473 00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:44,520 Speaker 2: so we did a lot of travel. We were both 474 00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:49,440 Speaker 2: kind of tired. I went to work yesterday, the mysterious 475 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:53,399 Speaker 2: day job, worked a full day, came home, sidled up 476 00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:57,280 Speaker 2: next to my television, had a Voodoo Ranger IPA from 477 00:24:57,320 --> 00:25:01,280 Speaker 2: New Belgium, which was delicious, A great way to close 478 00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:04,960 Speaker 2: out the college football season. Sat Indian style on my 479 00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:07,880 Speaker 2: floor for the first half of the game, and then 480 00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:11,040 Speaker 2: decided I was feeling a little dangerous and a little 481 00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:13,280 Speaker 2: tired of I'm being honest, decided, why don't I prop 482 00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:16,880 Speaker 2: up my feet and sit in the couch and set 483 00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:19,159 Speaker 2: a hunching over and bending my knees like I'm a 484 00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:22,480 Speaker 2: praying mantis. Why don't I lay on the couch, prop 485 00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:26,280 Speaker 2: up my feet, watch the second half. The next thing 486 00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:29,240 Speaker 2: I knew, it was about one point fifteen in the. 487 00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:32,040 Speaker 1: Morning, a tradition unlike any other. 488 00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:35,920 Speaker 2: About one fifteen in the morning. My contacts are dried 489 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:38,240 Speaker 2: up in my eyes. I'm trying to look through these 490 00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:44,560 Speaker 2: cloudy lenses, yeah, and figure out exactly what transpired, only 491 00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:46,720 Speaker 2: to discover that I missed most of the second half 492 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:47,880 Speaker 2: in that Clemson won the game. 493 00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:51,960 Speaker 3: So this morning you went back and watched everything with 494 00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:53,400 Speaker 3: clear eye, literal clear. 495 00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:56,359 Speaker 2: Eyes, clear eyes, and a full heart. Yeah yeah, Okay, 496 00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:59,160 Speaker 2: went back every morning, watched it, got the full take. 497 00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:02,720 Speaker 2: So I guess I didn't really miss any of the action. 498 00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:04,120 Speaker 2: I just missed it in real time. 499 00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:07,960 Speaker 3: Prett Nott, Alabama and Clemson people possibly offended that Tye 500 00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:12,120 Speaker 3: fell asleep during your huge national exciting championship. He did 501 00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:15,080 Speaker 3: that for his own team as well. He fell asleep 502 00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:17,840 Speaker 3: when his own team was in the national championship. This 503 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:23,159 Speaker 3: is much more an indictment on Tye's feelings about consciousness 504 00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:25,400 Speaker 3: than it is about college football. 505 00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:26,040 Speaker 1: I love it. 506 00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:28,600 Speaker 2: I'm sure this is a huge hit on my credibility. 507 00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:31,640 Speaker 2: Every show we do is a huge hit on our credibility. 508 00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:34,320 Speaker 2: It's fine, but we're nothing if not honest on this show. 509 00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:37,240 Speaker 2: And that's true. I zonked out. I zonked out. I 510 00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:38,960 Speaker 2: saw about five minutes the third quarter, and then I 511 00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:43,480 Speaker 2: was out. I went back. I watched probably with greater 512 00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:47,960 Speaker 2: attentiveness this morning, and took my notes in now here 513 00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:48,440 Speaker 2: we are but. 514 00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:52,560 Speaker 3: The end of the game, God, probably like twelve ten 515 00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:55,800 Speaker 3: twelve fifteen am Eastern time. Not only was I tired, 516 00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:58,080 Speaker 3: I realized that I would be tired if I were 517 00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:02,080 Speaker 3: watching this on the West coast. It had reached that point. So, yes, 518 00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:04,240 Speaker 3: we are old and disappointing, and it happens. 519 00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:04,840 Speaker 1: What are you gonna do? 520 00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:08,439 Speaker 3: But no, I think there has to be moving forward 521 00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:10,639 Speaker 3: just for the sport itself. And this isn't even a 522 00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:13,240 Speaker 3: national championship thing, which also has a longer halftime, but 523 00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:16,240 Speaker 3: like an early October CBS. 524 00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:17,960 Speaker 1: Game is lasting like four hours and twenty minutes. 525 00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:21,199 Speaker 3: I'm not going to put on a hat of like 526 00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:24,960 Speaker 3: TV executive, and I very much am not that, But 527 00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:29,440 Speaker 3: I think the sweet spot needs to be no games. 528 00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:31,199 Speaker 1: Lasting longer than like three and a half hours. 529 00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:35,399 Speaker 3: That probably just in terms of holding interest and growing 530 00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:40,159 Speaker 3: the sports and being a viable TV product moving forward 531 00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:44,720 Speaker 3: with sort of increased competition all the time, Like maybe 532 00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:46,760 Speaker 3: only stop the clock when somebody goes out of. 533 00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:48,359 Speaker 1: The bounds in the last two or three minutes. 534 00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:52,320 Speaker 3: Like there's some antiquated clock rules that I think need 535 00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:55,120 Speaker 3: to be revisited. The first down clock stoppage maybe needs 536 00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:58,560 Speaker 3: to be revisited. There's a lot that says, Okay, is 537 00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:01,560 Speaker 3: this really necessary? Do we really need to like go 538 00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:04,159 Speaker 3: to commercial after every punt? Do we really need to 539 00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:09,400 Speaker 3: I think the way college football is broadcast and governed 540 00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:13,240 Speaker 3: from a rules perspective needs to be overhauled a bit. 541 00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:15,640 Speaker 2: You know, what they need to do, what they need 542 00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:18,359 Speaker 2: to do. Whatever the hell they did in that Seahawks 543 00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:19,040 Speaker 2: Lions game. 544 00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:23,600 Speaker 3: Well it's twelve minute halves. Yeah, and well, especially since 545 00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:25,919 Speaker 3: college football perhaps more than pro and I do not 546 00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:27,480 Speaker 3: have the data to point this out because I do 547 00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:31,199 Speaker 3: not watch a lot of pro football. They run the 548 00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:34,560 Speaker 3: ball so infrequently in college and some of these big 549 00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:37,600 Speaker 3: games just because these you know, spread offenses, even like 550 00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:40,239 Speaker 3: de facto runs like little screens that are sort of 551 00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:45,240 Speaker 3: they might as well be like slight pitches when they're incomplete, 552 00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:47,640 Speaker 3: when they're they're just sort of running out of bounds 553 00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:51,800 Speaker 3: because everybody's stretching it wide. It just lengthens it so much. 554 00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:53,840 Speaker 3: And so I don't know if the game is all 555 00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:55,960 Speaker 3: that different on the pro level, but the rules are such, 556 00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:59,400 Speaker 3: especially with first down clock stoppage, that you need let's 557 00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:01,840 Speaker 3: let's this stop. Let's let's get to three three and 558 00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:04,200 Speaker 3: a half instead of three forty five four fifteen. 559 00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:07,320 Speaker 2: We watched that playoff game in the hotel room on 560 00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:09,680 Speaker 2: Saturday night. Yeah, and you and I both looked over 561 00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:11,600 Speaker 2: at each other, like, did we just step into a 562 00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:12,280 Speaker 2: time warp? 563 00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:13,480 Speaker 1: It was great. 564 00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:16,400 Speaker 2: Halftime was over and what felt like three minutes the 565 00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:19,560 Speaker 2: game was over and what felt like twenty minutes. I 566 00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:22,120 Speaker 2: don't know how you speed the game up, but I 567 00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:25,760 Speaker 2: should not have fallen asleep Mia Kolpa on that front. 568 00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:27,720 Speaker 2: But I did have a chance to go back and 569 00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:31,040 Speaker 2: watch it. And we're nothing if not honest here on 570 00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:32,760 Speaker 2: the program. The other thing I did want to mention, 571 00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:36,959 Speaker 2: which needs to be mentioned because it was awesome and 572 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:40,440 Speaker 2: because the tweets on it were awesome. The referee in 573 00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:44,160 Speaker 2: this game had Giant Bear arms. Dan Yes he did, 574 00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:48,240 Speaker 2: Giant Bear did, and Chris Fowler all due credit to 575 00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:51,920 Speaker 2: Chris Fawlor for not only pointing it out a couple 576 00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:55,840 Speaker 2: times as it needed to be, but also referencing the 577 00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:58,000 Speaker 2: medium referee jersey that he was with. 578 00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:02,320 Speaker 1: It was tight. It was tight. Yeah. 579 00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:05,040 Speaker 3: I always like a good strong referee makes me feel 580 00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:07,440 Speaker 3: like he has command even if he doesn't of the proceedings. 581 00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:11,520 Speaker 2: So now, this is officially the end of the twenty 582 00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:16,320 Speaker 2: sixteen seventeen college football season, but lord knows there are 583 00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:19,440 Speaker 2: plenty of other sporting events out there. What else going 584 00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:22,280 Speaker 2: on in and around the sports world. I have seat 585 00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:25,480 Speaker 2: geek on my phone same It is the easiest way 586 00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:27,880 Speaker 2: to buy tickets. You can be anywhere. Just takes a 587 00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:30,400 Speaker 2: few taps. 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Best of all, 602 00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:21,320 Speaker 2: right now, Dan, this has been a thing for a while. 603 00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:24,200 Speaker 2: If you've been listening, you know that you can get 604 00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:27,240 Speaker 2: a twenty dollars rebate off your first sea Geek purchase. 605 00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:29,200 Speaker 2: All you need to do in order to get that 606 00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:31,800 Speaker 2: is download the sea geek app. Once you have it, 607 00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:34,280 Speaker 2: click on settings, click on add a promo code, and 608 00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:38,680 Speaker 2: enter our promo code, which is Solid Solid. After you 609 00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:42,000 Speaker 2: do all that, after you make your first purchase, they're 610 00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:44,640 Speaker 2: gonna send you twenty dollars done, just like that. So 611 00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:48,040 Speaker 2: download the seat geek app today, enter the promo code Solid, 612 00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:53,000 Speaker 2: make a purchase and get twenty dollars back. So there 613 00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:56,880 Speaker 2: you have it, Dan, Clemson again wins thirty five to 614 00:31:57,280 --> 00:32:01,640 Speaker 2: thirty one, a great way to out the college football season. 615 00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:06,160 Speaker 2: Clemson scores the go ahead game winning touchdown a short 616 00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:10,120 Speaker 2: pass to Hunter Renfro with one second remaining on the clock, 617 00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:14,160 Speaker 2: any party shots here on the season that was dan. 618 00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:17,120 Speaker 3: I think it was a good season, not a great season. 619 00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:19,720 Speaker 3: Great if you're a Clemson fan. Great if perhaps you're 620 00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:22,120 Speaker 3: a USC fan. You know, teams that sort of turned 621 00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:24,760 Speaker 3: on later on in the season improved. I think that's 622 00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:26,920 Speaker 3: the big thing. If your team got better and improved 623 00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:28,560 Speaker 3: over the course of the season, even if they end 624 00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:31,120 Speaker 3: up nine, three, eight and four, seven and five, whatever, 625 00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:35,800 Speaker 3: If there's optimism, that's the big win. Not a ton 626 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:40,080 Speaker 3: of high level quarterback play, which usually helps to define 627 00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:43,040 Speaker 3: a really great season. Quarterback play all over the country. 628 00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:46,440 Speaker 3: But that's just my own personal preference in college football. 629 00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:49,560 Speaker 3: I know a lot of people love big defenses everywhere, 630 00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:52,520 Speaker 3: you know, power running games everywhere. I like it when 631 00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:55,280 Speaker 3: there are many quarterbacks in control, and it didn't seem 632 00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:57,719 Speaker 3: like that was the case this year. And we had 633 00:32:57,720 --> 00:32:59,800 Speaker 3: a couple of big injuries. You know, Josh Rosen was 634 00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:01,400 Speaker 3: out pretty early on, and a lot of people, I 635 00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:04,000 Speaker 3: think expected a lot from him in terms of development 636 00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:09,600 Speaker 3: as a big national quarterback moving forward. But all things considered, 637 00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:14,040 Speaker 3: it was weird. It was funny, it was impressive, it 638 00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:19,440 Speaker 3: was unexpected, and we somehow have Dabo Swinney face down 639 00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:23,320 Speaker 3: on the grass crime to end the year, so it 640 00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:24,760 Speaker 3: can't be all that bad. 641 00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:26,320 Speaker 1: So I enjoyed the season. 642 00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:28,880 Speaker 3: I thought we had a great year, just because I'm 643 00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:32,600 Speaker 3: entertained by you endlessly. And this is also to say 644 00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:37,400 Speaker 3: we're not stopping. We go all off season long. We've 645 00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:39,920 Speaker 3: got we already have shows banked that we did in 646 00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:43,440 Speaker 3: Tampa and before that, so there's a ton coming out. 647 00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:45,960 Speaker 3: We will revert to going once a week instead of 648 00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:50,320 Speaker 3: twice a week. But this is when things get particularly 649 00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:54,280 Speaker 3: weird and fun and honestly ty. 650 00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:56,520 Speaker 1: This is when we can get really nerdy. 651 00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:59,280 Speaker 3: Having stat guys on, having scheme guys on, all sorts 652 00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:01,520 Speaker 3: of X and o's. We're gonna have coaches on over 653 00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:03,640 Speaker 3: the course of the spring, particularly new guys. We love 654 00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:06,520 Speaker 3: having the new guys on that just accepted new jobs 655 00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:10,840 Speaker 3: all across college football. So this is when we really 656 00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:13,600 Speaker 3: like to produce. We have a little bit more time 657 00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:15,719 Speaker 3: to breathe and come up with concepts for shows. You 658 00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:18,560 Speaker 3: remember the verbies last year. You remember all sorts of 659 00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:21,799 Speaker 3: fun games and fantasy drafts, So this is when it 660 00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:25,399 Speaker 3: becomes more of a show than churning out podcasts, which 661 00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:26,080 Speaker 3: I really. 662 00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:29,600 Speaker 2: Like absolutely, Yeah, I thought it was a good season, 663 00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:34,120 Speaker 2: not a great season in terms of a football product. 664 00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:39,080 Speaker 2: Still better than the NFL, obviously, obviously because obviously, but 665 00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:43,440 Speaker 2: very curious to see now moving forward, how some of 666 00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:48,880 Speaker 2: the risers and fallers rebound or accelerate in twenty seventeen. 667 00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:51,200 Speaker 2: Both of our teams went four and eight. 668 00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:54,680 Speaker 1: Yes, they did, yours more notably, Yeah. 669 00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:56,440 Speaker 2: Mine more notably. Sure, but it's kind of tough to 670 00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:59,920 Speaker 2: overcome that black guy. If they do, it's a huge 671 00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:02,880 Speaker 2: story in twenty seventeen. If they don't, it might be 672 00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:03,920 Speaker 2: an even bigger story. 673 00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:05,080 Speaker 1: Yeah. 674 00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:08,040 Speaker 2: So I thought a lot of what happened in twenty sixteen, 675 00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:12,240 Speaker 2: just on a personal college football fan level, is setting 676 00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:14,879 Speaker 2: us up for what's to come in twenty seventeen. Yes, 677 00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:18,200 Speaker 2: Oregon went out and hired a new coach. What happens there, 678 00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:20,480 Speaker 2: we'll see. And then on the flip side of that, 679 00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:23,120 Speaker 2: you got teams like USC and Penn State, both of 680 00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:25,360 Speaker 2: which came on like a freight train second half of 681 00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:28,160 Speaker 2: the season and clearly are going to have a ton 682 00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:31,400 Speaker 2: of momentum as they enter this coming football season. That 683 00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:34,480 Speaker 2: to me is the takeaway outside of this great finish 684 00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:36,880 Speaker 2: and a couple great bowl games to close out the season, 685 00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:40,520 Speaker 2: the risers and the fallers, and now what happens as 686 00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:43,160 Speaker 2: we enter the twenty seventeen season, That, to me is 687 00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:46,240 Speaker 2: what I'm going to follow closely. With all that being said, 688 00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:49,440 Speaker 2: I am excited to see what we're able to come 689 00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:51,520 Speaker 2: up with over the next couple months, because, as you said, 690 00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:54,040 Speaker 2: it's not all about churning out podcasts and game reviews 691 00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:56,360 Speaker 2: and previews and whatnot. We actually have a chance to 692 00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:58,800 Speaker 2: take a deep breath, look to see what people care about, 693 00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:01,279 Speaker 2: and focus in a little bit more intently on it. 694 00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:04,520 Speaker 3: The final a people came out ty yes, speaking of 695 00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:07,080 Speaker 3: the off season moving forward? Who is obviously Clemson one 696 00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:09,200 Speaker 3: Alabama too. Who's the number three team in the country 697 00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:10,200 Speaker 3: to finish the year? 698 00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:12,360 Speaker 2: I heard it was USC, and I do have a 699 00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:21,920 Speaker 2: sound Yeah, the high train is going to be in 700 00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:25,000 Speaker 2: full working order by the time we get to like July. 701 00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:32,000 Speaker 3: Clemson, Alabama, USC, Washington, Oklahoma, Ohio State, Penn State, Florida State, Wisconsin, 702 00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:36,440 Speaker 3: Michigan are your top ten. So by my count, we 703 00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:40,439 Speaker 3: have one, two ACC teams finishing in the top ten. 704 00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:47,280 Speaker 3: We have one, two, three, four Big Ten teams finishing 705 00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:50,160 Speaker 3: in the top ten. A very top heavy league though, still, 706 00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:52,440 Speaker 3: but there is the top and it's well deserved. All 707 00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:54,960 Speaker 3: of those teams, with the exception of Michigan, I think, 708 00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:56,879 Speaker 3: finished pretty strong well. 709 00:36:57,080 --> 00:36:58,200 Speaker 1: I guess Ohio. 710 00:36:57,880 --> 00:37:01,040 Speaker 3: States, sure they are, you know, on a a four 711 00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:04,400 Speaker 3: quarter the qualified for the playoff, but they did qualify 712 00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:08,640 Speaker 3: for the playoff. Oklahoma as a top five team. I 713 00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:11,920 Speaker 3: may have had them a little higher, but you know what, 714 00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:15,680 Speaker 3: that's fine, and they go into next season with Baker 715 00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:20,120 Speaker 3: Mayfield and in a pretty strong sense of momentum. Wisconsin 716 00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:23,239 Speaker 3: as a top ten team given their schedule is incredible. 717 00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:26,000 Speaker 3: Florida State, given the injuries all over the field and 718 00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:28,760 Speaker 3: how they finished the season, that's a pretty big victory 719 00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:32,640 Speaker 3: for the Seminoles and it sets up a pretty wide 720 00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:36,920 Speaker 3: open because after after that, like number eight, so we're 721 00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:39,439 Speaker 3: pretty confident in Ohio State, in Oklahoma and Penn State, 722 00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:43,680 Speaker 3: Washington USC having what should be very good twenty seventeens 723 00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:50,440 Speaker 3: after number eight. So like before, Wisconsin, Michigan, Oklahoma State, Stanford. 724 00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:51,640 Speaker 1: Nobody knows, no, I don't. 725 00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:54,120 Speaker 3: I mean, this is not a preseason top twenty five. 726 00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:58,640 Speaker 3: This is a final top twenty five. But it is 727 00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:00,399 Speaker 3: so wide open fan. 728 00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:05,600 Speaker 2: All right, well, do stay tuned here to the solid verbal. 729 00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:06,399 Speaker 1: Yes. 730 00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:09,200 Speaker 2: We will clearly be talking much much more about this 731 00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:14,400 Speaker 2: as we progress now into twenty seventeen. As Dan mentioned, 732 00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:18,320 Speaker 2: we're going to go to once a week starting now, 733 00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:22,080 Speaker 2: so our next podcast will be about a week from today. 734 00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:24,440 Speaker 2: We're going to get back in the habit of publishing 735 00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:27,760 Speaker 2: every Wednesday, and the first show that you will hear 736 00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:31,680 Speaker 2: after this one will actually be a live recording of 737 00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:35,879 Speaker 2: the live show doing this weekend Saturday evening in New 738 00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:41,320 Speaker 2: York City at Hill Country Chicken. Tickets are completely sold out. 739 00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:44,920 Speaker 2: We do have some folks who I've added to a 740 00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:48,480 Speaker 2: waiting list in case other people report that they're unable 741 00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:51,279 Speaker 2: to attend, But this is sort of our first crack 742 00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:54,919 Speaker 2: at and we're excited about it. Will put that show 743 00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:58,560 Speaker 2: out into the wild next Wednesday, so you can listen 744 00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:01,120 Speaker 2: along and then maybe, if it's something you're into, buy 745 00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:02,840 Speaker 2: tickets to come to the next one, because if it 746 00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:05,200 Speaker 2: goes well, we will be doing a next one, So. 747 00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:05,719 Speaker 1: That's the plan. 748 00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:09,080 Speaker 2: In addition to that live show, We've got all sorts 749 00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:11,279 Speaker 2: of goodness coming your way over the course of the 750 00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:14,120 Speaker 2: next couple months. During the off season, going to talk 751 00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:17,600 Speaker 2: very closely about recruiting. Don't forget, National Signing Day comes 752 00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:19,680 Speaker 2: up first week of February. 753 00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:22,040 Speaker 1: Recruiting is three weeks from tomorrow time. 754 00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:26,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, recruiting is the lifeblood of college football. We will 755 00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:29,000 Speaker 2: cover it as we always do here on the podcast. 756 00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:32,600 Speaker 2: We've also got spring games that come up towards the 757 00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:35,719 Speaker 2: end of March and all throughout April, and along the 758 00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:38,080 Speaker 2: way we'll talk to a bunch of new coaches. We'll 759 00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:40,600 Speaker 2: deep dive some of the topics that college football fans 760 00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:42,320 Speaker 2: care deeply about. 761 00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:43,000 Speaker 1: Yep. 762 00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:46,880 Speaker 2: And of course we'll bring our normal amount of weirdness 763 00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:49,879 Speaker 2: to the college football either, I would hope. So that's 764 00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:53,239 Speaker 2: what we do. Yeah, that is all I have, Dan, 765 00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:57,280 Speaker 2: That's everything I've got. We have a long off season 766 00:39:57,320 --> 00:39:59,840 Speaker 2: to talk about anything that we perhaps forgot on this show. 767 00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:04,880 Speaker 2: Congratulations to the Clemson Tigers. Congratulations to Alabama as well 768 00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:08,799 Speaker 2: on a hard fought game and two great seasons. 769 00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:12,320 Speaker 1: And above all, Dan, yeah. 770 00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:15,160 Speaker 2: Congratulations to fans of all teams now because we're all 771 00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:19,680 Speaker 2: undefeated once more. For that guy over there, Dan Rubinstein, 772 00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:22,680 Speaker 2: for myself, Tie hilding Brand, thanks again for tuning in. 773 00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:25,000 Speaker 2: Catchy all Next week's stay Solid Peace