1 00:00:03,920 --> 00:00:11,280 Speaker 1: It's that time, time, time, time, luck and load. So 2 00:00:11,480 --> 00:00:13,920 Speaker 1: Michael Verie Show is on the air. 3 00:00:14,160 --> 00:00:16,799 Speaker 2: Politicians are a lot like diapers. We should be changed 4 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:18,520 Speaker 2: frequently for the same reason. 5 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:23,079 Speaker 3: Keep that in mind next time you vote. Groundbreaking Asian 6 00:00:23,160 --> 00:00:28,000 Speaker 3: Americans like Very Wang and and Joan the Shing Gang 7 00:00:29,400 --> 00:00:33,120 Speaker 3: pastor Shanga. 8 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:35,519 Speaker 2: We are going to the border. We've been to the border. 9 00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:38,879 Speaker 2: So this whole, this whole, this whole thing about the border. 10 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:41,400 Speaker 2: We've been to the border. We've been to the border. 11 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:44,159 Speaker 2: You haven't been to the border, and I haven't been. 12 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:45,560 Speaker 2: Got a call from Chaos. 13 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:47,920 Speaker 4: We hadn't heard from him in years, but it was 14 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:50,640 Speaker 4: towards the end of the show this morning, and I 15 00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:52,479 Speaker 4: talked to him for a long time afterwards, just me 16 00:00:52,520 --> 00:00:54,640 Speaker 4: and him and our crew said hey, why don't you 17 00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:58,160 Speaker 4: share that with the evening audience? So I didn't expect 18 00:00:58,160 --> 00:00:59,840 Speaker 4: we would, but they talked me into it. So here 19 00:00:59,880 --> 00:01:01,960 Speaker 4: we are, love it or hated me? And Chaos? 20 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:03,320 Speaker 2: Where are you living? 21 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:06,240 Speaker 5: Time for everybody? I mean, if I could, I would. 22 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:09,280 Speaker 5: I tried. After for fifteen years they said I wasn't 23 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:11,760 Speaker 5: supposed to be driving trucks and that actually hurt my 24 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:12,560 Speaker 5: back even more. 25 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:16,480 Speaker 4: I don't decide. I don't that that tracks. Okay, Uh, 26 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:17,399 Speaker 4: where are you living now? 27 00:01:17,440 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 2: What state? 28 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:22,479 Speaker 5: I'm in South Carolina? 29 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:26,840 Speaker 4: Okay, so you were in Harlem for some period of time. 30 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:28,040 Speaker 4: Are you originally from South. 31 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:31,760 Speaker 5: Calin harl Yeah, my mama. When my mama passed, that 32 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:33,720 Speaker 5: was it, Like I don't really go to New York 33 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:34,120 Speaker 5: no more? 34 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:37,199 Speaker 4: So what is it with people in South Carolina going 35 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:41,479 Speaker 4: to New York. Wasn't Biggie from South Carolina? Somebody, somebody 36 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:44,920 Speaker 4: kind of big in that scene was from South Carolina. 37 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:45,880 Speaker 2: There was like a connection. 38 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:52,040 Speaker 5: A lot of a lot of South Carolinians had migrated, Yeah, 39 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:55,920 Speaker 5: to New York to get away from Now you might 40 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 5: have been I don't know, you might have been thinking 41 00:01:57,080 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 5: about Frank Lucas. 42 00:01:58,320 --> 00:02:01,680 Speaker 2: Oh the box, Yeah, that's it. Yeah, Yeah, that's exactly right. Yeah, 43 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:02,280 Speaker 2: Frank Luis. 44 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:06,280 Speaker 6: Yeah, they went to New ys like the black he 45 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:07,880 Speaker 6: was the mafia, dun't He's the one that wore the 46 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:12,560 Speaker 6: coach to the Muhammad ali uh And I was like, 47 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:13,440 Speaker 6: he can't afford that. 48 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:15,840 Speaker 5: They were trying to Yeah, they was trying to escape 49 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:18,120 Speaker 5: the segregated South. So a lot of people, it's not 50 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 5: a lot of going to New York, especially like farding 51 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 5: world where it's like a lot of black people where 52 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:27,200 Speaker 5: they could be a little bit more free than in 53 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 5: the South where they got all them laws and stuff. 54 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:32,239 Speaker 5: So that's where that come from. So that's what that's 55 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:35,920 Speaker 5: what it is. That's where all that come from. 56 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:40,919 Speaker 2: But Yo, the only way daughter she can she can 57 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:42,160 Speaker 2: now she's around. 58 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:46,280 Speaker 5: I mean, see your your kids. You said they're in college. 59 00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:49,640 Speaker 4: So well my oldest, my oldest is in college. He's 60 00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 4: the second half of second year. My youngest is a 61 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:56,920 Speaker 4: senior in high school and he will go to college 62 00:02:57,000 --> 00:02:59,240 Speaker 4: at the same place, University of Texas where his brother 63 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:02,600 Speaker 4: is starting in the fall. So we're gonna be empty 64 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 4: nesters and I'm not doing well with it. 65 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:07,239 Speaker 2: Chaos. You've got about eight years and you're gonna see 66 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:10,799 Speaker 2: this for yourself. You know, we raised these creatures. I'm 67 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 2: actually the world. I'm not ready for it. 68 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:16,760 Speaker 5: I'm actually looking forward to you know why, because before 69 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:19,680 Speaker 5: I have my before my daughter was born, I always 70 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:21,560 Speaker 5: have other kids. It was like it was almost like 71 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:24,760 Speaker 5: practice to what's going on now. My my my ex 72 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:29,240 Speaker 5: wife's cousins and all that. I don't seen them raise 73 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:31,680 Speaker 5: and grow up already. I don't see that. And when 74 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 5: I got to my real daughter, I was like, man, 75 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:37,040 Speaker 5: this is the last one. So right now, I'm kind 76 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:41,840 Speaker 5: of exhausted at this point already before it happened because 77 00:03:41,880 --> 00:03:45,920 Speaker 5: of that. So if you if you want kids, though, 78 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 5: don't worry somebody somebody gonna get you know, I don't 79 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:51,000 Speaker 5: want to. I don't know how you feel. Somebody gonna 80 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:53,640 Speaker 5: get pregnant, you know what I mean? Kids? That keeps 81 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 5: its happening, you know what I mean? 82 00:03:57,360 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, but no, no, no, I I've had my moment. 83 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 2: I'm ready for grandkids in a few years. I'm ready. 84 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 2: I'm ready for the next phase of life. 85 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 4: It's just it's an emotional time because so much of 86 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 4: what we did was parenting. 87 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:15,000 Speaker 5: Right. 88 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 4: We were older by the time we had our kids, 89 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:23,320 Speaker 4: and so our whole lives were our kids. We didn't 90 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:24,920 Speaker 4: have a lot of balance. We didn't go out for 91 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:27,599 Speaker 4: date night, we didn't travel alone. We did everything with 92 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:29,760 Speaker 4: our kids. And now it's all of a sudden, you know, 93 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 4: And I think it's unhealthy when you say to your kids, hey, 94 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:33,760 Speaker 4: I invested all this into you and now turn around 95 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:35,480 Speaker 4: and you can't do that. So now you've got to 96 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:38,960 Speaker 4: kind of rebuild your life and find, you know, new 97 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 4: interests as a couple in places you're going to travel 98 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:42,480 Speaker 4: and stuff you're going to do. 99 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:45,440 Speaker 2: Okayos where in South Carolina? 100 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:54,479 Speaker 5: Danzel, that's where Jama red from? You know, Jama Ret. 101 00:04:56,480 --> 00:04:58,800 Speaker 5: You don't know you watched NBA sometimes? 102 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, but oh, you're talking about Kevin Durant. 103 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 5: No, I said John Moran, not Kevin. I don't know. 104 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:08,080 Speaker 2: I didn't watched the NBA in a while. 105 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:10,680 Speaker 5: In a minute, Yeah, Well, anyway, he'd be like. 106 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:13,200 Speaker 4: I'm kind of old Larry Bird NBA. You know what 107 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:18,600 Speaker 4: I'm saying, Kurt Rambas Kevin, I'm not. 108 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:21,600 Speaker 5: Really proud of this. But John Moran, he he's the 109 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:23,760 Speaker 5: only one that I know of that be shooting the 110 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 5: ball that he'll he'll pull out a gun or like 111 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:30,480 Speaker 5: a fake gun and start shooting in the crowd. I'm like, yo, 112 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:31,000 Speaker 5: what the hell? 113 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:32,480 Speaker 2: You know who else would do that? 114 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:35,160 Speaker 4: You know else would do that. He played for the Bullets. 115 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 4: He pulled a gun. Uh what was his name? 116 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:41,839 Speaker 5: Oh, you're talking about my man, Gilbert Arena. 117 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 2: Gilbert is gonna coach shoot somebody. 118 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:47,360 Speaker 5: He did that in the locker room. 119 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 2: I don't know why he did that. 120 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:50,039 Speaker 5: I don't. I don't know why he did that either. 121 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:52,640 Speaker 5: Why you bringing a gun to show a bunch of 122 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:55,159 Speaker 5: millionaire basketball players? 123 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:57,239 Speaker 2: Because he was pure Street. 124 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:01,839 Speaker 5: No, the one that's the person that's through Street, that's 125 00:06:01,839 --> 00:06:04,560 Speaker 5: in the NBA. It's like Zach Randolph. He's he's pure 126 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 5: of Street. 127 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:08,279 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's that word generation. You know who else was Street? 128 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:10,400 Speaker 4: Charles Oakley? 129 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:15,440 Speaker 5: Yeah, he played basketball real good. Why you think that's 130 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:16,919 Speaker 5: that's Street. He's a good. 131 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 4: Hustler, you know, because when the game was over, Charles 132 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:22,200 Speaker 4: Oakley would beat your ass in the parking lot. 133 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:24,960 Speaker 2: It didn't matter to him. 134 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:29,159 Speaker 5: Joe Street. Street is not about fighting no more. Ain't 135 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:32,599 Speaker 5: nobody they want you to spark, not fight. So you're 136 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:36,360 Speaker 5: not sparking anything, or you're not selling any kilos. They 137 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:41,040 Speaker 5: not that. Nobody respects fighting no more. Nobody even respects that. 138 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:44,839 Speaker 4: You're trying to teach this to me. You're telling Noah 139 00:06:44,839 --> 00:06:47,480 Speaker 4: about the flood, telling. 140 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 5: Me that Charles Oakley Street, and he's doing this. 141 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:56,039 Speaker 4: You don't know who Charles Oakley was. You don't remember Charles. 142 00:06:57,000 --> 00:06:59,120 Speaker 5: You're missing bird. 143 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:03,680 Speaker 4: You you don't remember Charles Oakley as a Chicago bull. 144 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:06,440 Speaker 4: You just you don't have the history the sports. 145 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:09,360 Speaker 5: I know, I remember Charles Oakley as the Chicago Bull. 146 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:11,480 Speaker 5: I know why he became a Knick because he ain't 147 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 5: want to kiss m J h and so they got 148 00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 5: him over there and they got Bill cart Wright. But yeah, 149 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:20,440 Speaker 5: I do remember. I remember that. 150 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:24,880 Speaker 2: You know, it was straight Wallace. That dude would get 151 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:27,320 Speaker 2: thrown out of every game. I loved Rashid guy. 152 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:29,560 Speaker 4: He was so much fun to watch, Like they would 153 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:31,680 Speaker 4: just taunt him and he punched him and he's out. 154 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:34,120 Speaker 5: You like talking about old stuff. 155 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:42,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, like Ronald test Yeah, Meadow World Peace, yeah, exactly, Marky. 156 00:07:42,320 --> 00:07:49,360 Speaker 5: World b Free mm hmm yeah, mar maguire, yeah, he was. 157 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 5: He was something special. Thunder. 158 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:55,280 Speaker 2: What was his name, Dan Thunder, Dan Thunder Marley, Yeah. 159 00:07:57,360 --> 00:07:59,080 Speaker 5: I ain't know. His middle name was Thunder, but I 160 00:07:59,400 --> 00:08:02,960 Speaker 5: just name and Marley. All right, Well, if you want 161 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:04,760 Speaker 5: to say Charles Oakley Street, you might as well say 162 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:05,440 Speaker 5: Charles Barkley. 163 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:07,960 Speaker 2: Coolan if that's the Katy No, you know what I mean, 164 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:11,520 Speaker 2: you want to give it to We're going to give 165 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:17,320 Speaker 2: credit Charles Barkley. He created a media empire. He didn't. 166 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 5: I mean, the first. 167 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:22,120 Speaker 4: I've been destroying the black community is to dismantle the 168 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:23,200 Speaker 4: Black family. 169 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:26,119 Speaker 5: Michael Berry's show, Why don't we ask missus Willie Brown 170 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:28,240 Speaker 5: if Kamala Harris cares about black families. 171 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:32,560 Speaker 4: Chaos was a long time caller to our show. We 172 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 4: hadn't heard from him in years. He called in this morning. 173 00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:36,560 Speaker 4: We talked off air. The crew said, share it with 174 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:38,680 Speaker 4: the team, So share it with your audience, share it 175 00:08:38,679 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 4: with our listeners. 176 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:43,600 Speaker 5: So here we are. I have been reduced to well, 177 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:46,000 Speaker 5: I don't know. I ain't even gonna says it's a reduction. 178 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:50,160 Speaker 5: It's more of an evolution to being a father. You 179 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:50,680 Speaker 5: know what I mean. 180 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 4: That's not a job though, Chaos. That's my point. You 181 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:56,680 Speaker 4: can't do that to me. Chris Rock had a whole 182 00:08:56,679 --> 00:08:58,400 Speaker 4: bit about this. You can't be like, oh, I'm a 183 00:08:58,400 --> 00:09:01,440 Speaker 4: good dad to my kipposed to be a good dad. 184 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:01,640 Speaker 5: Of your kid. 185 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:05,880 Speaker 4: But that's not You can't be you all day, Chaos. See, 186 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:08,840 Speaker 4: you know why you call me. You call me because 187 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:11,080 Speaker 4: you need a mentor. You see me as a mentor. 188 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:13,400 Speaker 4: And I appreciate that, and I'm here for you. I 189 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:15,280 Speaker 4: wish I had more time. I wish you lived next 190 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:17,320 Speaker 4: shoor I come over and you your asses. They cares 191 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 4: get off your butt. Oh I got a degenerative. Oh 192 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 4: stop that, stop it. 193 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:24,240 Speaker 5: Nobody cares what I'm saying. 194 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:27,080 Speaker 4: Who's supposed to care? Do you care about nobody else? 195 00:09:27,640 --> 00:09:29,920 Speaker 4: You know a lot of a lot of people think, 196 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:33,000 Speaker 4: A lot of people do the Nobody cared. When I 197 00:09:33,040 --> 00:09:36,040 Speaker 4: was in school, I was I felt left out. Nobody cares. 198 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:37,880 Speaker 4: Who was supposed to care? People supposed to go on 199 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:40,480 Speaker 4: how you might feel left out. We're all just going 200 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:42,640 Speaker 4: through this world on our own. You got to care 201 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:43,800 Speaker 4: about yourself. 202 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 5: You're right, you got to care about this. That's my point. 203 00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:50,680 Speaker 5: My point is, don't be looking for people to kid 204 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:53,199 Speaker 5: That's my point. I'm not thinking. 205 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:55,559 Speaker 4: I'm talking about how to get you out of this 206 00:09:55,720 --> 00:09:58,920 Speaker 4: moras that is your existence. You got so much talent, 207 00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:02,360 Speaker 4: and by the way, it's it's not for anybody's purpose 208 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:05,280 Speaker 4: other than yourself. I watch people trying. I watch people 209 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:07,240 Speaker 4: go from five hundred pounds to two twenty, and I 210 00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:09,720 Speaker 4: see how it transforms them. I watch people go from 211 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:11,880 Speaker 4: poor to rich, and I see how it transforms them. 212 00:10:12,040 --> 00:10:16,320 Speaker 4: I see people go from extreme center to giving their 213 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:19,200 Speaker 4: life over to the Lord and becoming an evangelist. Whether 214 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:21,200 Speaker 4: they keep a day job or none, and and and 215 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:23,440 Speaker 4: being a person they can be proud of. I want 216 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:25,160 Speaker 4: you to be a person who is proud of who 217 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:25,480 Speaker 4: you are. 218 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:28,600 Speaker 2: Cas. I don't think and I don't want you to 219 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:29,400 Speaker 2: want that for you. 220 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:34,679 Speaker 5: I am proud. I'm proud of I'm proud of my daughter. 221 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:40,600 Speaker 4: Again again, that is talk that I hear people that 222 00:10:40,600 --> 00:10:44,440 Speaker 4: that is cultural talk. When white people hear that, they're like, Okay, 223 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:45,960 Speaker 4: that's weird. All right, now, what are you up to 224 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 4: that works? 225 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:48,760 Speaker 2: That works? I tell you where that works. 226 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:52,760 Speaker 4: President population, that works with the president that made population. 227 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:54,640 Speaker 4: You got guys that are in a cage for doing 228 00:10:54,679 --> 00:10:57,679 Speaker 4: stupid stuff. They're like, Oh, all I want is for 229 00:10:57,840 --> 00:10:59,559 Speaker 4: my key is to be successful. 230 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:00,520 Speaker 2: Okay, well what about you? 231 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 4: I just I just want my key hids yeah senior 232 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:06,440 Speaker 4: kidding eight years Not you, but that guy. I just 233 00:11:06,440 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 4: want my key. I want my daughter to love me. 234 00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:11,440 Speaker 4: You haven't done a damn thing for that girl. Clean 235 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 4: your own life up and be a model, be an 236 00:11:13,800 --> 00:11:15,760 Speaker 4: example for her. That's how you can show your daughter 237 00:11:15,760 --> 00:11:16,280 Speaker 4: you love her. 238 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:16,720 Speaker 5: Not you. 239 00:11:16,760 --> 00:11:18,679 Speaker 4: I'm talking about other people, but it's true for you too. 240 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:20,079 Speaker 4: It's true for all of us. 241 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:23,960 Speaker 5: All right, Well, I put work in, I wanted to 242 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:26,640 Speaker 5: be Special Forces. I hurt my back. They wouldn't let 243 00:11:26,679 --> 00:11:28,000 Speaker 5: me continue with. 244 00:11:27,840 --> 00:11:32,160 Speaker 2: My mind overcome. There's people in wheelchairs, there's people who 245 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:35,679 Speaker 2: load their arms. Adapted outcome, and that's. 246 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:37,840 Speaker 5: What I would. I must win. Maybe I went to the 247 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:40,640 Speaker 5: wrong avenue because when I went to drive trucks, it 248 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:41,320 Speaker 5: made it worse. 249 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:43,360 Speaker 4: Sure, I think it would hurt my back. I got 250 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:44,880 Speaker 4: a bad back. I think if I drove trucks it 251 00:11:44,920 --> 00:11:46,480 Speaker 4: would hurt. There's no doubt about that. All right, So 252 00:11:46,559 --> 00:11:47,920 Speaker 4: again with that we overcome. 253 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:49,079 Speaker 5: You know, George W. 254 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:50,200 Speaker 2: Bush had a great speech. 255 00:11:50,240 --> 00:11:52,120 Speaker 4: He didn't write it, and he talked about the soft 256 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:55,320 Speaker 4: bigotry of low expectations. There's a lot of people around you, 257 00:11:55,360 --> 00:11:58,160 Speaker 4: black and white chaos who as long as you stay 258 00:11:58,160 --> 00:12:00,280 Speaker 4: out of prison, they think that's a success for you. 259 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:01,440 Speaker 2: You are wasting word. 260 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:03,840 Speaker 5: I give up on that is it's just says because 261 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:05,000 Speaker 5: the lead of the hood. 262 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:09,040 Speaker 4: Jail and death just who like see that's you got 263 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:12,199 Speaker 4: the ruin expectations. This is a you got a paradigm 264 00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:16,400 Speaker 4: shift necessary? Why are you gonna miss out on? Don't 265 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:18,480 Speaker 4: you ever notice how many immigrants come to this country 266 00:12:18,880 --> 00:12:23,760 Speaker 4: and succeed. English is a second language, can't hardly communicate, 267 00:12:24,200 --> 00:12:30,200 Speaker 4: don't know anybody, and yet they sued hard work, thrift, sacrifice. 268 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:32,120 Speaker 4: You're just sitting around making excuses chaos. 269 00:12:32,160 --> 00:12:32,760 Speaker 2: You better than no. 270 00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:35,120 Speaker 5: But I grew up, I'm saying I grew up. It's 271 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:37,080 Speaker 5: not like all right, then, immigrant, they probably was a 272 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:38,880 Speaker 5: grown person by the time they got over here. I 273 00:12:38,920 --> 00:12:41,840 Speaker 5: don't know. I grew up in the hood. I was 274 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:45,200 Speaker 5: like I was born there, so there wasn't no English 275 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 5: whatever second language. I gotta become. I gotta get old 276 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 5: enough to even qualify, to even be able to even 277 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:54,040 Speaker 5: try to do something, you know what I mean. And 278 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:56,800 Speaker 5: then you know, people be telling me, they be like, yo, 279 00:12:57,120 --> 00:13:00,360 Speaker 5: these immigrants they get other loans and stuff that that 280 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:02,360 Speaker 5: they won't even give us, that they won't. 281 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:02,880 Speaker 2: Even give me. 282 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:06,120 Speaker 5: If I was apply for these same things the migrants 283 00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:08,880 Speaker 5: they get, then the migrants will getting some type of 284 00:13:09,120 --> 00:13:13,280 Speaker 5: X some check that if you a migrant, well soon 285 00:13:13,280 --> 00:13:15,000 Speaker 5: as you come off the boat, you get this check 286 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:17,400 Speaker 5: or whatever. I don't know. Like I said, I don't know. 287 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:20,040 Speaker 5: I'm just too busy trying to survive my own life. 288 00:13:20,040 --> 00:13:22,320 Speaker 5: But I'm not trying to make excuses or nothing. I 289 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:25,720 Speaker 5: drove trucks for fifteen years. I would drove tell you 290 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:27,079 Speaker 5: I did what I could do. 291 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:34,079 Speaker 4: You had a child, you gotta do something like chaos. 292 00:13:35,520 --> 00:13:39,080 Speaker 4: I mean, I'm just trying to be seventy five years old. 293 00:13:39,679 --> 00:13:42,760 Speaker 4: You're talking about vival mode who you were fifty years ago? 294 00:13:42,880 --> 00:13:44,199 Speaker 4: And wonder where it all went. 295 00:13:46,240 --> 00:13:48,640 Speaker 5: Everything everything comes to it, to it and at some 296 00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:50,280 Speaker 5: point right, nothing last forever. 297 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:54,480 Speaker 4: I'm just I'm getting with the platitudes. This happens in 298 00:13:54,520 --> 00:13:57,199 Speaker 4: black culture. It drives me crazy, these platitudes. They mean 299 00:13:57,280 --> 00:13:59,240 Speaker 4: nothing I'm talking about. 300 00:13:59,280 --> 00:14:02,000 Speaker 5: But I'm forty. I don't put work in. I don't 301 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:02,520 Speaker 5: put work in. 302 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:05,280 Speaker 2: I know people, you're a kid, I'm fifty five. 303 00:14:07,559 --> 00:14:11,120 Speaker 5: Kid, all right, it's a kid. But if you decide, 304 00:14:11,400 --> 00:14:14,200 Speaker 5: if you decide, I ain't even talk about me no more. 305 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:16,559 Speaker 5: If you decide, you know what, I'm done with this? 306 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:19,600 Speaker 5: I could I could, like you could done with this. 307 00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:22,680 Speaker 5: You could pass past this torch, down past this Michael 308 00:14:22,680 --> 00:14:27,280 Speaker 5: Berry show, torch to whoever, and I'm gonna go do 309 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:31,120 Speaker 5: some whatever old man stuff. You could do that instead 310 00:14:31,160 --> 00:14:32,520 Speaker 5: of you know what I mean, rest in peace. The 311 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:36,640 Speaker 5: rustling ball he did that to his last day. You 312 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:40,400 Speaker 5: see what I'm saying nothing's gonna last forever for nobody, 313 00:14:40,720 --> 00:14:42,160 Speaker 5: you know what I mean. So it's just, you know, 314 00:14:42,280 --> 00:14:45,000 Speaker 5: this is what I've decided since I never had a daddy, 315 00:14:45,240 --> 00:14:46,600 Speaker 5: you know what I mean. I look at my daughter. 316 00:14:46,760 --> 00:14:48,280 Speaker 5: Every time I see my daughter, I'll be like, damn, 317 00:14:48,280 --> 00:14:49,280 Speaker 5: I wish I had a daddy. 318 00:14:51,800 --> 00:14:52,800 Speaker 2: He's a daddy. 319 00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:56,840 Speaker 4: Be heard, daddy being daddy you never had. You gotta 320 00:14:56,840 --> 00:15:00,360 Speaker 4: break the cycle chaos, And that's so much telling. You 321 00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:03,000 Speaker 4: need somebody like me kicking your ass and saying stop, 322 00:15:03,040 --> 00:15:06,560 Speaker 4: film sorry for yourself, because I guarantee you got women 323 00:15:06,600 --> 00:15:08,800 Speaker 4: around you that are enabling you. I don't know if 324 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:10,640 Speaker 4: they're laid up with you, or is your mother or 325 00:15:10,720 --> 00:15:13,760 Speaker 4: is your auntie, or is your grandmam or Big Mama or. 326 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:14,240 Speaker 2: Whoever it is. 327 00:15:14,520 --> 00:15:17,359 Speaker 4: You've got a bunch of women enabling you, and somebody 328 00:15:17,680 --> 00:15:19,800 Speaker 4: needs to needs to kick you in the ass and say, 329 00:15:20,080 --> 00:15:23,680 Speaker 4: chaos be great, let's go, come on, come on now. 330 00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:28,120 Speaker 5: Well, you're right, the only thing keeping any of us 331 00:15:28,160 --> 00:15:30,040 Speaker 5: alive is the heart of a woman. And that's been 332 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:35,160 Speaker 5: true from a fetus to our whole existence. That's everybody. 333 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:39,760 Speaker 5: But I mean, I'm just on a different type of 334 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:43,720 Speaker 5: time right now. When my daughter get grown. I don't know. Maybe, 335 00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:46,680 Speaker 5: but like I said, I also have a traumatic brain 336 00:15:46,760 --> 00:15:48,560 Speaker 5: injury too, and just say, I don't know if this 337 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:51,600 Speaker 5: ain't no platitude or whatever you say or some type 338 00:15:51,640 --> 00:15:55,880 Speaker 5: of whatever, but it just I have a. 339 00:15:55,800 --> 00:15:57,160 Speaker 2: Hard time with a lot of things. 340 00:15:57,440 --> 00:15:59,080 Speaker 5: You learn it. I have a hard time with a 341 00:15:59,080 --> 00:16:01,520 Speaker 5: lot of stuff, but I work through it. I'm not 342 00:16:01,560 --> 00:16:03,640 Speaker 5: making excuse me for it. I'm here, I'm living. 343 00:16:03,840 --> 00:16:05,560 Speaker 4: What are you doing to work through it? A year 344 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:07,800 Speaker 4: from now? Where are you going to be working to. 345 00:16:07,800 --> 00:16:09,680 Speaker 5: Do what I'm working? Do it now? I'm trying to. 346 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:12,480 Speaker 5: I gotta work on my Like I said, it's hard 347 00:16:12,480 --> 00:16:15,080 Speaker 5: for me to just just to get up and just 348 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:18,080 Speaker 5: to clean my house is a task for me. So 349 00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:20,320 Speaker 5: now when I'm doing to work through it, I gotta 350 00:16:20,440 --> 00:16:22,520 Speaker 5: work out to work through it. Now, I gotta work. 351 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:25,640 Speaker 5: I gotta physically work out so I could walk straight. 352 00:16:25,840 --> 00:16:29,520 Speaker 5: I don't even walk. I don't even walk like regularly 353 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:30,600 Speaker 5: like I used to. 354 00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 4: Chaos was a long time caller to our show. We 355 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:36,240 Speaker 4: hadn't heard from him in years. He called in this 356 00:16:36,280 --> 00:16:38,600 Speaker 4: morning and I talked to him for a long time afterwards, 357 00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:40,720 Speaker 4: just me and him and our crew said, hey, why 358 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:43,920 Speaker 4: don't you share that with the evening audience. So I 359 00:16:43,920 --> 00:16:46,000 Speaker 4: didn't expect we would, but they talked me into it. 360 00:16:46,040 --> 00:16:47,600 Speaker 4: So here we are, love it or hate it, it's 361 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:48,520 Speaker 4: me and chaos. 362 00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:50,720 Speaker 5: Like I said, there's people moret worse. Like you said, 363 00:16:50,720 --> 00:16:54,040 Speaker 5: there's people in wheelchairs. So I do not complain enough. 364 00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:57,880 Speaker 5: I thank God every day for anything that I'm doing, 365 00:16:59,080 --> 00:17:03,000 Speaker 5: you know what I mean. I'm just grateful. I'm just grateful. 366 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:05,359 Speaker 5: I'm not trying to like if I could have worked, 367 00:17:05,480 --> 00:17:07,200 Speaker 5: if I could have been shout out to the eighty 368 00:17:07,240 --> 00:17:10,399 Speaker 5: second Airborne Division, That's why I was attached to when 369 00:17:10,440 --> 00:17:13,040 Speaker 5: I was in the military. I would have had like 370 00:17:13,160 --> 00:17:15,679 Speaker 5: to have been part of them. If I would, you know, 371 00:17:15,760 --> 00:17:18,240 Speaker 5: I probably would have considered jumping out of the plane. 372 00:17:18,280 --> 00:17:19,840 Speaker 5: That's the only reason I was a part of them. 373 00:17:20,600 --> 00:17:24,000 Speaker 5: But before I could get to that point, things happened, 374 00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:27,239 Speaker 5: you know, and I was really depressed. 375 00:17:27,119 --> 00:17:28,080 Speaker 2: For a long time. 376 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:31,880 Speaker 5: I went through a lot of therapy and everything because 377 00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:34,399 Speaker 5: of like, how what you're saying, oh you should do this, 378 00:17:34,520 --> 00:17:37,160 Speaker 5: That's how I felt, like you said, Damn, I can't 379 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:40,879 Speaker 5: do nothing. I can't. I had suicide attempts and all that, 380 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:44,960 Speaker 5: and then you know, after therapy, they was like, yo, 381 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:47,879 Speaker 5: you know a lot of people don't finish their military careers. 382 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:51,639 Speaker 5: You know what I mean, You but you here and 383 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:55,679 Speaker 5: I went to my what was that place they put me? 384 00:17:57,520 --> 00:18:00,720 Speaker 5: The mental I forgot what they call places, but you 385 00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:04,400 Speaker 5: know places where you be there for weeks, all right? 386 00:18:06,040 --> 00:18:08,080 Speaker 5: The rehab, I guess. I don't know mental rehab. But 387 00:18:08,119 --> 00:18:10,840 Speaker 5: it wasn't no like drug or nothing rehab. It was 388 00:18:10,920 --> 00:18:14,840 Speaker 5: just a place where I guess people that have PTSD 389 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:18,760 Speaker 5: or have issues from the military, whatever, some type of 390 00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:22,080 Speaker 5: mental issues. You go there and you talk, they give 391 00:18:22,119 --> 00:18:24,800 Speaker 5: you medicine or whatever, and I'm like, yo, I can't 392 00:18:24,800 --> 00:18:27,320 Speaker 5: do this no more. I can't play basketball. I used 393 00:18:27,320 --> 00:18:31,240 Speaker 5: to love playing basketball. I had time, hope, and dreams 394 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:34,000 Speaker 5: of things that I wanted to do before the injury happened, 395 00:18:34,359 --> 00:18:40,840 Speaker 5: you know what I mean, and being had to happen. Dreams, 396 00:18:40,840 --> 00:18:43,040 Speaker 5: well one of them. I guess being from the hood, 397 00:18:43,119 --> 00:18:45,200 Speaker 5: everybody had a dream of going to the NBA. 398 00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:49,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, me too, But I'm not fifty five. And people going, dude, 399 00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:51,720 Speaker 4: you haven't left the house in three days. You don't 400 00:18:51,720 --> 00:18:53,840 Speaker 4: do anything. You live off a check from the government. 401 00:18:53,880 --> 00:18:57,159 Speaker 4: I'm like yeah, but y'all don't remember spud Web. 402 00:18:57,320 --> 00:19:01,280 Speaker 2: I'm tall to him. But something happened. Yeah, you know 403 00:19:01,320 --> 00:19:01,720 Speaker 2: what I'm saying. 404 00:19:01,760 --> 00:19:04,080 Speaker 5: And I wanted to be I wanted to be Special Forces. 405 00:19:04,119 --> 00:19:08,239 Speaker 5: I wanted to do that, Rember Chris, I was on 406 00:19:08,280 --> 00:19:09,680 Speaker 5: the path to doing that. Huh. 407 00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:11,200 Speaker 2: Remember Chris Mullins. 408 00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:15,040 Speaker 5: Why are you talking about these old nineties refidens. 409 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:17,399 Speaker 2: He's from crazy. 410 00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:19,720 Speaker 5: Chris Mullen, you played in it. 411 00:19:20,080 --> 00:19:23,680 Speaker 2: He played for Saint John's and then he went to 412 00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:24,240 Speaker 2: Golden State. 413 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:26,719 Speaker 5: He was an NBA. He was an NBA in the nineties, right. 414 00:19:27,080 --> 00:19:29,040 Speaker 4: I saw. I saw a special on him. He was 415 00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:33,960 Speaker 4: alcoholic and sometimes he was playing basketball drunk. That's hard 416 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:35,640 Speaker 4: to do. You think about running up down that court 417 00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:36,120 Speaker 4: that long. 418 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:39,600 Speaker 5: You talk about when he was in the NBA. He 419 00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:43,760 Speaker 5: was doing that all right. They said, I was used 420 00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:45,720 Speaker 5: to party until three in the morning, and he'll come 421 00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:50,160 Speaker 5: play this act the next day and. 422 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:53,160 Speaker 4: Didn't say what they want about Alan iverson his crossover. 423 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:55,119 Speaker 4: I think it's best crossover in all of basketball. 424 00:19:55,560 --> 00:19:59,200 Speaker 2: I'm serious. I'm dead serious. People forget how good. 425 00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:01,840 Speaker 4: Ai was six one. That guy, that guy could take 426 00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:05,200 Speaker 4: away the basketball history, to take over a game. 427 00:20:06,040 --> 00:20:08,920 Speaker 5: I like I like the way Kyrie Irvin dribbled a 428 00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:13,760 Speaker 5: basketball though better though, But I respect Alan's dribble and 429 00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:15,000 Speaker 5: Isaiah's Thomas. 430 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:19,080 Speaker 2: I respect for Isaiah Thomas. 431 00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:21,120 Speaker 5: I'm talking about his dribble. I'm talking about his game. 432 00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:22,720 Speaker 2: I got no time for him. 433 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:25,439 Speaker 5: You ain't got no time of him, I do. I 434 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:28,000 Speaker 5: do understand what he say, Like in eighty and eighty 435 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:30,919 Speaker 5: nine and ninety when they won the championships, I do 436 00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:33,440 Speaker 5: understand when he talked about, damn, I just won the championship. 437 00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:34,960 Speaker 5: Y'all still talking about Michael Jordan. 438 00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:39,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, I Michael, because you don't deserve to be in 439 00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:39,879 Speaker 4: the same conversation. 440 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:41,080 Speaker 2: Let me tell you them. 441 00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:44,879 Speaker 4: I'm that Pistons team I'm talking about want to change 442 00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:46,760 Speaker 4: in all of history. Let me go through it for you. 443 00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:49,760 Speaker 4: You got the big white boy, Bill Lambert. People forget 444 00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:53,480 Speaker 4: the influence he had. You got John Sally, you got 445 00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:57,800 Speaker 4: rodman Man. Rodman was so good. He was the best 446 00:20:57,800 --> 00:21:00,800 Speaker 4: defensive player in the league, better than Gary Payton because 447 00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:05,000 Speaker 4: he could play low, post and forward. Uh the best rebounder. 448 00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:07,600 Speaker 4: The guy would score six, eight, ten points just off 449 00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:13,520 Speaker 4: trash buckets, like like Otis Thorpe. Here in Houston, you got, 450 00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:17,080 Speaker 4: you got the guy doesn't get any credit the microwave, Vinnie, 451 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:20,120 Speaker 4: you got Joe Dumarsh from McNee State University. 452 00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:21,480 Speaker 2: Who's that in Louisiana? 453 00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:28,520 Speaker 5: Way, Who's who's the microwave? Who's talking about? Vinnie? Oh? Vinnie, 454 00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:35,119 Speaker 5: you don't remember? Vinnie? Yo, you're gonna play Techmobowl? Yeah? 455 00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:38,800 Speaker 2: Bo Jackson, Oh, bo Jackson? Yeah, you know what this was? 456 00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:40,760 Speaker 5: This remind you if you look at some of them 457 00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:45,199 Speaker 5: old nineties games. No disrespect to another, the legends or whatever, 458 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:48,119 Speaker 5: but if you look at how basketball was played that 459 00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:51,280 Speaker 5: day and you look how games is being played now. 460 00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:54,440 Speaker 5: Not saying these players is better, but it's a different speed, 461 00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:57,760 Speaker 5: it's a different the nineties. Like did you see a 462 00:21:57,800 --> 00:22:02,400 Speaker 5: Patrick Ewen? Patrick Ewan would get humiliating in today's game 463 00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:04,800 Speaker 5: if he was playing like how you was playing. You 464 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:06,520 Speaker 5: know what I mean? Like I said, it's just a 465 00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:08,800 Speaker 5: different time. Like I respect all that. 466 00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:11,560 Speaker 2: But also what what did you just say. 467 00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:17,320 Speaker 5: Patrick Ewing? He would get alminiated today? Come on now 468 00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:20,640 Speaker 5: because the slow how slow he was moving and all that. 469 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:24,080 Speaker 4: Do you know how I think he was seven to 470 00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:26,879 Speaker 4: maybe seven to three. Here's the thing, here's what you 471 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:30,960 Speaker 4: don't understand the game changed away from the low post. 472 00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:36,159 Speaker 4: There aren't low posts anymore. Patrick Ewing's era was the 473 00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:42,359 Speaker 4: low post a kim Olajuan Patrick Ewing. Ralph Sampson that 474 00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:45,920 Speaker 4: that era has changed. Robert Perrish, the Chiefs all before 475 00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:47,280 Speaker 4: your time. You don't understand the game. 476 00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:50,760 Speaker 2: I know about all that. 477 00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:54,640 Speaker 5: That wasn't before my time. Yeah, care and I went back. 478 00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:56,199 Speaker 2: That's a different time. See. 479 00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:58,240 Speaker 4: But the game started changing. And you know when it 480 00:22:58,280 --> 00:23:02,080 Speaker 4: really started changing. It started changing with the Bulls team 481 00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:05,560 Speaker 4: that could win a championship with a Bill Cartwright and 482 00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:08,400 Speaker 4: then and then they had the three White the three 483 00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:13,040 Speaker 4: the White Towers. They did low post by by committee. 484 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:16,439 Speaker 4: You had was it Purdue? You just had three goofy 485 00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:16,960 Speaker 4: white dudes. 486 00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:18,919 Speaker 5: Wellington, Wellington and Wellington. 487 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:20,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, Wellington had a decent shot. 488 00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:24,360 Speaker 5: You don't remember, Yeah, I remember all that. Listen. I'm 489 00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:27,200 Speaker 5: gonna tell you like this, Cartwright, Wellington and Luke Looney 490 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:32,679 Speaker 5: could have did more. Yeah what the Australian I don't know, 491 00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:34,239 Speaker 5: but they would have. They could have did more if 492 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:36,520 Speaker 5: they wasn't on the team with Michael Jordan's being that 493 00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:39,320 Speaker 5: they was on the team with Michael Jordan, especially Bill Cartwright. 494 00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:42,080 Speaker 5: They turned Bill Cartwright into a yes'. 495 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:47,000 Speaker 4: Okay, listen to this nineteen ninety Detroit Pistons team, Mark Acguire, 496 00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:53,840 Speaker 4: Joe Dumars, Vinnie Johns. That's the microwave, Bill Lambert Dinnis, 497 00:23:53,920 --> 00:24:00,080 Speaker 4: Robin john Sally, Isaiah Thomas Man. That's a legend and 498 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:00,880 Speaker 4: day lineup. 499 00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:06,600 Speaker 5: Okay, But I mean you can look at them you 500 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:09,280 Speaker 5: in Houston right now. Look at the Houston Rockets current 501 00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:12,480 Speaker 5: team right now. Don't they got James Harden and Kevin Durant. 502 00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:14,440 Speaker 2: They don't have hard Harden wants to come back. 503 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:14,720 Speaker 5: They don't. 504 00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:16,120 Speaker 2: I don't believe they have Harden, all right. 505 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:18,000 Speaker 5: They don't have harder right now. But they got they got. 506 00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:20,200 Speaker 2: K Is fifty eight years old. 507 00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:26,359 Speaker 5: Okay, Still you don't. You don't say nothing past ninety 508 00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:28,920 Speaker 5: six when you when you talk about it, you're gonna 509 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:30,400 Speaker 5: say of any team. 510 00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:34,800 Speaker 4: Today that they're stacked. You forget how good those Pistons 511 00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:35,480 Speaker 4: teams were. 512 00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:38,880 Speaker 5: Well, would they beat somebody today? 513 00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:41,000 Speaker 2: The games played differently? 514 00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:44,280 Speaker 5: They could, Yeah, they could, You know how they. 515 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:48,320 Speaker 2: Could because they played defense, pickup they would. 516 00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:51,160 Speaker 4: They didn't play pickup ball chaos. They didn't play cherry 517 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:52,800 Speaker 4: kid picking ball, where you don't. 518 00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:53,160 Speaker 2: You don't. 519 00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:55,200 Speaker 4: Actually, when the other team goes up for a drive, 520 00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:57,560 Speaker 4: you just you take and run down so you can 521 00:24:57,600 --> 00:24:59,480 Speaker 4: be wide open and they can throw you along pass. 522 00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:01,000 Speaker 2: That's not you a play. 523 00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:06,880 Speaker 5: At NBA two K picking ninety pistler team and play against. 524 00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:08,960 Speaker 2: Like the new the Golden State Warriors. 525 00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:11,399 Speaker 5: Of two thousand and four or something in team you 526 00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:14,560 Speaker 5: can win that game or whatever. The Warriors were a 527 00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:15,639 Speaker 5: fantastic story. 528 00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:21,919 Speaker 2: Michael Bay Good Show on Bablum. 529 00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:26,639 Speaker 4: Chaos was a long time caller to our show. We 530 00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:28,760 Speaker 4: hadn't heard from him in years. He called in this morning. 531 00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:33,080 Speaker 4: Here's what you don't understand. The game changed. It's completely offensive. 532 00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:36,200 Speaker 4: There's no defense played any longer. There's no passes made, 533 00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:40,400 Speaker 4: there's no discipline, there's no teamwork. These teams now they're not. 534 00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:43,000 Speaker 4: The game has changed. And look I like James Harden, 535 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:45,399 Speaker 4: don't get me wrong, but the idea of a point 536 00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:49,040 Speaker 4: forward or a shooting guard, a number two guard bringing 537 00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:51,640 Speaker 4: the ball up so he can jacket for threes, that's 538 00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:55,840 Speaker 4: not basketball to me. I like a Gary Payton who 539 00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:58,720 Speaker 4: the glove will play defense, pass the ball. 540 00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:01,840 Speaker 2: He played, he back somebody into the low post. He 541 00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:02,480 Speaker 2: was unstopped. 542 00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:04,520 Speaker 5: All right, Gary Payton is on the Big three for 543 00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:06,159 Speaker 5: three now. I think he's coaching now. So if you 544 00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:08,320 Speaker 5: want to see that, because we got it, time goes on, 545 00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:10,960 Speaker 5: you know what I mean. So it's like I don't talk. 546 00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:11,600 Speaker 2: About debtlifs trimp. 547 00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:14,440 Speaker 4: I'm tell about guys with solid fundamentals that could pass, 548 00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:17,200 Speaker 4: that could shoot walk about. 549 00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:18,440 Speaker 5: You just want to talk about. 550 00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:21,320 Speaker 2: There about but you could talk about that forever. I mean, 551 00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:22,200 Speaker 2: it's over people. 552 00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:24,040 Speaker 5: They don't want day championship. They got the accolades. 553 00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:26,960 Speaker 4: I hated them, but I could spend ten minutes all 554 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:28,840 Speaker 4: my John Stockton and Karl Malone to give and go. 555 00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:31,160 Speaker 2: It's the best giving going all history, better better than bird, 556 00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:32,240 Speaker 2: better than you. 557 00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:34,000 Speaker 5: Right, you don't like stop you? 558 00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:38,199 Speaker 4: I hated him, Yes, I hated him. Why because they 559 00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:40,040 Speaker 4: played the Rockets. I hated them more than any other team. 560 00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:40,440 Speaker 2: I hate them. 561 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:43,160 Speaker 5: They can't be in because they would be in the Rockets. 562 00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:44,280 Speaker 5: I mean, look how. 563 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:45,600 Speaker 2: Many championships those Jazz teams win. 564 00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:47,960 Speaker 5: They didn't. They didn't win anything. 565 00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:51,639 Speaker 4: I mean, okay, I mean the only person to ever 566 00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:53,960 Speaker 4: wear a Jazz uniform that I care anything about is 567 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:54,880 Speaker 4: Pistol Pete Merriviach. 568 00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:57,960 Speaker 2: And that's just because he's like white chocolate. He's just 569 00:26:58,040 --> 00:26:59,840 Speaker 2: beautiful Jo too. 570 00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:03,000 Speaker 4: You know what I read the other day that Maryva 571 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:07,879 Speaker 4: forty four point one points per game at LSU forty 572 00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:10,159 Speaker 4: four point one. When he was a freshman at LSU, 573 00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:12,200 Speaker 4: the freshman couldn't play on the varsity. 574 00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:14,800 Speaker 2: His dad was a coach. The freshman would. 575 00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:16,840 Speaker 4: Play and score sixty points, and all the fans would 576 00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:18,320 Speaker 4: come out to watch the freshman game, and they would 577 00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:20,439 Speaker 4: leave and not stay around for the varsity. 578 00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:24,360 Speaker 2: How about that. You don't know how good epistol Pete 579 00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:24,840 Speaker 2: Maravich was. 580 00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:27,480 Speaker 5: You have no idea, all right, So you want to 581 00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:29,800 Speaker 5: so you want to be a history teacher that this is? 582 00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:31,880 Speaker 2: You know, I'm just telling you what I enjoy. 583 00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:35,399 Speaker 4: I enjoy the old I appreciate the old athletes in 584 00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:37,000 Speaker 4: a day when the games would play different. 585 00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:38,520 Speaker 5: You know what. I appreciate that too. 586 00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:40,600 Speaker 4: But that's the game became the fact of the matter 587 00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:42,240 Speaker 4: is the game became a hoo, a hood game. 588 00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:44,600 Speaker 2: It became a pickup game. There's no fundamentals. 589 00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:47,160 Speaker 4: There's no Bobby Knight passing the ball, there's no playing defense, 590 00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:50,280 Speaker 4: there's no teamwork, there's no strategy. It's just an athlete 591 00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:52,440 Speaker 4: taking the ball and either he drives it or he 592 00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:54,960 Speaker 4: shoots it. That's not fun for fans like me. That's 593 00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:57,080 Speaker 4: why the NBA lost to a lot of fans like me. 594 00:27:57,320 --> 00:27:59,200 Speaker 4: We want to see old white people game. We want 595 00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:01,520 Speaker 4: to see Havlichat, We want to see Koozie. We want 596 00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:03,080 Speaker 4: to see that red urbox ball. 597 00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:05,359 Speaker 5: They got offensive coordinators and stuff. You don't think they 598 00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:10,800 Speaker 5: run and plays. You don't think they come on man. 599 00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:10,560 Speaker 2: There's nobody. 600 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:15,840 Speaker 4: There's nobody setting that picks they do on mandaty five passes. 601 00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:18,359 Speaker 5: Steph Curry, like they said, Steph Curry, all he do 602 00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:21,919 Speaker 5: is because he runs all game long. That's all he does. 603 00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:28,240 Speaker 4: See this has devaulted into a racial conversation. If people 604 00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:30,320 Speaker 4: have different expectations of what they want out of the game. 605 00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:34,000 Speaker 4: You want the personalities and the players and the showmanship 606 00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:37,560 Speaker 4: and the swoosh and the Drain Brothers or whatever they 607 00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:41,240 Speaker 4: were called, and all that. All that stupidity and creating 608 00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:43,080 Speaker 4: these super teams. I hated when the Celtics did it, 609 00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:47,400 Speaker 4: When when Uh Garnett, when they went out in uh 610 00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:49,720 Speaker 4: Paul Pierce, when they went out to create that super 611 00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:52,480 Speaker 4: team in the old days, you built a team up right, 612 00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:54,160 Speaker 4: and the year after year you got better every team 613 00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:55,720 Speaker 4: and maybe every year maybe you picked up. 614 00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:59,440 Speaker 2: But that was a different style of basketball. That was passing. 615 00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:03,680 Speaker 4: All that was plays, that was that was being creative 616 00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:06,000 Speaker 4: as a coach. As to the mix of players in 617 00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:08,239 Speaker 4: the chemistry you would put out there to match up 618 00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:08,760 Speaker 4: with the other team. 619 00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:11,680 Speaker 2: It was about match up. Now it's just a pickup game. 620 00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:16,600 Speaker 5: Well, I don't know. You know, I don't know what 621 00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:17,240 Speaker 5: you don't want. 622 00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:19,440 Speaker 2: To I do. That's what I'm here for. I'm a 623 00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:22,960 Speaker 2: knower of things you can't. 624 00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:25,040 Speaker 5: You can't say that you know about the current state 625 00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:28,440 Speaker 5: as much as you know about the You don't even 626 00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:30,160 Speaker 5: watch the current state. This is what I'm saying. So 627 00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:31,600 Speaker 5: for you to say it's a pickup game, and for 628 00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:32,840 Speaker 5: you to say they don't do it and don't do it, 629 00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:33,520 Speaker 5: you don't even remember. 630 00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:35,360 Speaker 2: He's a big country. 631 00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:41,120 Speaker 5: You ever watch? It is what it is. This is 632 00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:43,800 Speaker 5: what Cam and Mace they talk about sports. They give 633 00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:46,720 Speaker 5: it that makes it interesting. 634 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:48,760 Speaker 4: You know, the only thing I watch related to basketball 635 00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:51,240 Speaker 4: anymore about once a month that will pop up on 636 00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:53,560 Speaker 4: my YouTube feed where a bunch of black players will 637 00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:56,040 Speaker 4: be sitting around from the seventies, and they'll go, y'all 638 00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:59,920 Speaker 4: don't know how bad Larry Bird was, let me tell you, 639 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:02,160 Speaker 4: but Larry Bird and then they'll all go Larry Bird 640 00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:04,880 Speaker 4: would say, I'm gonna stand right over there, they're gonna 641 00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:07,240 Speaker 4: pass me the ball, and I'm gonna shoot over you 642 00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:09,480 Speaker 4: and you ain't ain't nothing you do about it. 643 00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:12,400 Speaker 2: And they're like, ay did, And I'm like, oh man, 644 00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:13,080 Speaker 2: I like that. 645 00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:15,520 Speaker 5: Yeah all right? But then once you hear that story, 646 00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:17,360 Speaker 5: how many more times you want to hear that? Like? 647 00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:18,200 Speaker 5: How many more? Yeah? 648 00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:19,320 Speaker 2: I can't hear it enough hearing. 649 00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:21,840 Speaker 4: I can't hear the names that's a white man in 650 00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:22,960 Speaker 4: America twenty twenty six. 651 00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:23,720 Speaker 2: I can't hear it enough. 652 00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:27,600 Speaker 5: Yeah. You know. 653 00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:30,400 Speaker 4: You know how when people would say when Barack Obama 654 00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:32,480 Speaker 4: was elected, little black children. 655 00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:34,920 Speaker 2: Will say, finally one of mine is up to the field. 656 00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:36,840 Speaker 2: So that's how I feel about Larry Bird. 657 00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:38,640 Speaker 5: All right. But I don't want to keep hearingbou. I 658 00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:40,560 Speaker 5: don't want to keep hearing about Barack Obama right now? 659 00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:41,160 Speaker 5: You know what I mean? 660 00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:45,160 Speaker 2: Barack Obama. Larry Bird, the hit from Frenchly. 661 00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:48,360 Speaker 4: You know, he got into one game, you know, he 662 00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:50,920 Speaker 4: got into one game in Indiana. He got into one 663 00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:53,840 Speaker 4: game and was one for two in the game. He 664 00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:55,880 Speaker 4: did it on a dare. He could have played pro ball. 665 00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:58,520 Speaker 4: He was better at baseball than Michael Jordan. Process that 666 00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:00,960 Speaker 4: for a moment, Birmingham barons. 667 00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:04,120 Speaker 5: It doesn't it doesn't. It doesn't really matter. You know. 668 00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:06,080 Speaker 5: The funny thing when they had they had that Jordan 669 00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:08,960 Speaker 5: versus Bird thing, and Jordan never beat Bird. That was 670 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:10,680 Speaker 5: the funny thing because I was like, yo, he never 671 00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:12,520 Speaker 5: he scored sixty points. 672 00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:15,040 Speaker 4: But they really have nothing but respect for Larry Bird. 673 00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:16,720 Speaker 4: And you know what else you don't pay respect to. 674 00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:21,880 Speaker 4: You forget Larry Bird came back and coached that Indiana 675 00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:25,320 Speaker 4: team to the championship. You forget the flying Dutchman Rick 676 00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:26,959 Speaker 4: Smith's that's what you forget. 677 00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:30,120 Speaker 5: I don't forget that. I do remember that, but nobody 678 00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:32,800 Speaker 5: really remembers unless you win it. They didn't win, so 679 00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:35,920 Speaker 5: if they would run the championship, I remember that. I 680 00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:38,479 Speaker 5: remember when the pages and Miller and Mark Jackson, I 681 00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:39,880 Speaker 5: remember all that. Jackson. 682 00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:44,880 Speaker 4: That's a good memory, Mark Jackson and Mark Jackson. 683 00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:49,280 Speaker 2: What was this was there was there was a Del David. 684 00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:50,840 Speaker 4: They had to get them the two dudes with the 685 00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:54,440 Speaker 4: same last name that were kind of unheralded, but just 686 00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:57,320 Speaker 4: position players. They give you your time and work hard. 687 00:31:57,360 --> 00:32:00,880 Speaker 4: They were good for for six fowls. They couldn't shoot 688 00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:03,000 Speaker 4: either one of them. I think it was Dale Davis, 689 00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:04,480 Speaker 4: and I can't remember the other them. They both had 690 00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:05,280 Speaker 4: the same last name. 691 00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:15,120 Speaker 5: It does with the E. Is it Ellie, Ellie Elliott something? 692 00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:16,400 Speaker 2: I don't know, man, I don't know. 693 00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:19,400 Speaker 5: You keep I love you want to go down memory lane? Dog? 694 00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:22,560 Speaker 5: You want to go down memory lane? I like, I 695 00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:25,280 Speaker 5: don't know, man, I don't know. I'm trying to see 696 00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:28,040 Speaker 5: what's going on new because I'm gonna tell you, even 697 00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:30,960 Speaker 5: if you don't like football no more. Lamar Jackson, even though, 698 00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:33,040 Speaker 5: all right, Tom Brady is the goat, I'm gonna say, 699 00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:36,160 Speaker 5: Lamar Jackson is the goat with skills as far as 700 00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:38,800 Speaker 5: the way he could run and move and pass the 701 00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:41,520 Speaker 5: ball and all that he just he just hasn't. It 702 00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:44,960 Speaker 5: was d accomplished. All of Tom Brady's accomplishments. 703 00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:45,680 Speaker 2: Listen to that. 704 00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:49,080 Speaker 4: This is that roster two thousand, Rick Smith's, Reggie Miller, 705 00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:54,000 Speaker 4: Jalen Rose, Mark Jackson, Dale Davis, Chris Travis Best, Austin Crocher, 706 00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:57,120 Speaker 4: Al Harrington, Sam Perkins, Oh, Big Smooth Derek. 707 00:32:57,200 --> 00:32:59,520 Speaker 5: I don't know Aster Crusher or the other one. 708 00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:01,680 Speaker 4: I don't know the man. That's a team right there. 709 00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:04,480 Speaker 4: That's a that's a good roster. Bum Phillips was the 710 00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:06,880 Speaker 4: coach of the Oilers in the seventies late seventies and 711 00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:08,560 Speaker 4: then went to New Orleans and Mike. 712 00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:10,840 Speaker 2: I'm in the movie. You go to watch them. 713 00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:13,360 Speaker 4: It's called Love Your Boom. Movie movies called love You 714 00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:17,040 Speaker 4: Love Your Boom. It's on Amazon. You can just look 715 00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:19,560 Speaker 4: up l U V love and it'll short love your Boom. 716 00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:22,280 Speaker 4: I'm in it at I'm in it four times. You'll 717 00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:26,080 Speaker 4: see me and Mike Barber. Mike Barber, who was who 718 00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:28,960 Speaker 4: was a tight end for those teams. There's a moment 719 00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:31,480 Speaker 4: where he's quoted and he would tell his players. He 720 00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:34,760 Speaker 4: would say, you just remember this when no one loves you, 721 00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:37,160 Speaker 4: when it feels like no one loves you, Oh Bum 722 00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:39,520 Speaker 4: loves you, but you just remember that kill. 723 00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:43,120 Speaker 2: It feels like love them ozar like I gotta run. 724 00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:48,880 Speaker 5: Call that, thank you and goodnight.