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Speaker 1: me go crazy. So thank you guys for tuning in.

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Speaker 1: And how's everybody in the other countries around the world.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, what is your thoughts on twenty twenty? I

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Speaker 1: Okay, you want to hear some ghost voices? All right?

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Speaker 1: EVP or ev plase.

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Speaker 2: You know what that reminds me up to. Do you

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Speaker 2: remember White Noise? Did you ever see that movie? No?

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Speaker 2: Oh, you gotta watch it. It's all about EVPs.

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Speaker 1: Okay. I feel like I vague was this an early

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Speaker 2: The Spooky Season. You gotta get on it.

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Speaker 1: This one is from battle Park West on YouTube and

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Speaker 2: It's saying something. It sounds like a little baby voice.

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Speaker 2: It's hard to hear computer to computer now, but it

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Speaker 1: It's like a shaky it's kind of like a like

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Speaker 2: That's so interesting, And he guesses it sounds like sort

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Speaker 2: Oh gosh, it sounds like C.

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Speaker 1: I know that's what they think. It's I am the devil.

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Speaker 1: I when I heard it, Wait, I heard something that

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Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean they definitely can pull from your brain.

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Speaker 2: like that's how tricksters actually do the positive working on

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that was really the problem.

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Speaker 1: It's like we meet again.

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Speaker 2: I want to see you again, like there's plenty of you.

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Speaker 1: Man with you not doing this stuff so much right now?

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Speaker 1: Is that? Has that been a really good thing for you?

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Speaker 2: though it's one of time and sometimes feels very overwhelming,

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00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:48,760
Speaker 2: is still helping a person at a time.

431
00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:56,359
Speaker 1: That's beautiful. It really is. So if when you're you know,

432
00:26:57,040 --> 00:27:00,639
Speaker 1: doing this stuff more, how can people get in contact?

433
00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:02,159
Speaker 1: I mean, do you have like do you usually have

434
00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:04,920
Speaker 1: like a long waiting list or how does how does

435
00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:05,399
Speaker 1: that happen?

436
00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:10,080
Speaker 2: Yeah? I usually do, and people get frustrated because sometimes

437
00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:13,840
Speaker 2: it takes months to get back to emails. But the

438
00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:17,040
Speaker 2: easiest way, honestly is just to check out the Instagram

439
00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:20,159
Speaker 2: because that's where I'm most I'm most on, Like, I

440
00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:23,280
Speaker 2: don't really use me like my Twitter or anything that

441
00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:26,080
Speaker 2: much because it's just kind of a dark hole. On Twitter,

442
00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:31,080
Speaker 2: it really is like a depressing place. So Instagram is

443
00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:33,520
Speaker 2: nice because you can have pictures of dogs and food.

444
00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:38,080
Speaker 2: So that's kind of where I'm on most of the time.

445
00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:40,160
Speaker 2: And I like to help people even if I can't

446
00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:42,639
Speaker 2: see you in person. You know, I do post tips

447
00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:46,080
Speaker 2: on how to raise vibration. I do do ask me

448
00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:52,480
Speaker 2: anythings very frequently. I sometimes do lives, so at worst

449
00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:56,159
Speaker 2: you can get information from there as to what you

450
00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:59,000
Speaker 2: can do independently until you could potentially see me.

451
00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:01,479
Speaker 1: I want to add from you. I don't know if

452
00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:04,320
Speaker 1: I have it. Can you tell through podcasts if somebody

453
00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:06,160
Speaker 1: has something attached to them?

454
00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:11,719
Speaker 2: Well, here's what I'll say. I will say this most people,

455
00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:14,399
Speaker 2: and this is an unfortunate thing to say, but it's true.

456
00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:18,359
Speaker 2: Most people have been through a lot of trauma, and

457
00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:22,480
Speaker 2: trauma in and of itself sets off its own frequency.

458
00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:24,720
Speaker 2: So if you are at a six and you're ride

459
00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:26,960
Speaker 2: and high and everything's great, and you're holding on to

460
00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:29,600
Speaker 2: something that's emitting a too, we still should take the

461
00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:32,520
Speaker 2: two out. So when people come to me with low

462
00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:36,919
Speaker 2: with low frequency trauma and entity, I don't just remove

463
00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:40,400
Speaker 2: the entity. I have to remove that trauma so that

464
00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:45,080
Speaker 2: you're not emitting that anymore. So I would say, you know,

465
00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:47,280
Speaker 2: let's let's take a look at some trauma.

466
00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:50,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I mean, do you encounter a lot of

467
00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:54,120
Speaker 1: situations or does it happen where you're doing this to

468
00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:59,560
Speaker 1: someone and then it's there's more, you know, clinical issues

469
00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:02,560
Speaker 1: going on on that that you can't help or how

470
00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:03,240
Speaker 1: does that happen?

471
00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:07,120
Speaker 2: Or yeah, absolutely listen. Like you know, mental illness, people

472
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:10,040
Speaker 2: always say mental illness and entity are two different things,

473
00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:12,320
Speaker 2: and that's not necessarily true because if you look at

474
00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:15,600
Speaker 2: the cases here, if it's low frequency and you are

475
00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:19,320
Speaker 2: suffering from mental illness, you could also unfortunately attract entity

476
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:22,240
Speaker 2: that they go hand in hand. There's nothing that says differently.

477
00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:25,920
Speaker 2: Also same with physical illness. You know, sometimes you can

478
00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:29,200
Speaker 2: have spiritual illness that manifests in the body and be

479
00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:33,960
Speaker 2: physical illness. Sometimes you can have something that just exacerbates

480
00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:36,440
Speaker 2: physical illness, so we can take out the thing that's

481
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:38,960
Speaker 2: making it worse. But certainly not all. You know, if

482
00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:42,680
Speaker 2: you have physical illness, you have physical illness. So it's

483
00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:47,840
Speaker 2: just kind of as weird as this sounds, a holistic approach.

484
00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:52,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, because well it's it almost seems in some ways

485
00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:54,600
Speaker 1: and that you kind of touch on this, like there's

486
00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:57,360
Speaker 1: there's parallels to like reiki a little bit, right, or

487
00:29:57,560 --> 00:29:59,760
Speaker 1: energy work in that in that sense.

488
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:02,560
Speaker 2: I mean sure, like I wouldn't. I would never call

489
00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:05,320
Speaker 2: myself an energy worker because I don't believe that's exactly

490
00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:07,800
Speaker 2: what I do. I think what I do is extremely specific.

491
00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:10,480
Speaker 2: I don't do anything else but this, you know what

492
00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:13,760
Speaker 2: I mean. And back in the day, a million years ago,

493
00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:17,520
Speaker 2: you know, people have tried to offer me reality shows

494
00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:19,479
Speaker 2: one hundred times over and back in the day, they

495
00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:22,960
Speaker 2: were like, oh, why don't you call yourself something not

496
00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:26,920
Speaker 2: an exorcist, Like why don't you call yourself an energy healer,

497
00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:29,800
Speaker 2: And I'm like, because that's not specific. I do this.

498
00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:32,600
Speaker 2: People know when they hear this, this is what you get.

499
00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:35,200
Speaker 2: I don't want to change what I call myself. I

500
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:37,920
Speaker 2: want people to change their perspective on what it actually is.

501
00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:41,600
Speaker 1: Yes, well yeah, and you that's what you really gather

502
00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:44,320
Speaker 1: the more you listen a person listens to you or

503
00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:49,080
Speaker 1: read your book. Is my original ideas of an exorcist

504
00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:53,320
Speaker 1: is so it's so far expanded because of the work

505
00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:55,120
Speaker 1: you do. And I think that's great.

506
00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:58,920
Speaker 2: I appreciate it. Yeah, I really appreciate that, because you know,

507
00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:00,840
Speaker 2: there are a lot of people who have very high

508
00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:06,040
Speaker 2: resistance to the word, the language, what I do, the

509
00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:07,640
Speaker 2: dark side of things. There are a lot of people

510
00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:09,880
Speaker 2: who are very afraid of all of those things. But

511
00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:14,360
Speaker 2: the reality is this is part of life. You know.

512
00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:16,560
Speaker 2: The darkness is part of the light. To be able

513
00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:18,760
Speaker 2: to have light, you have to work through darkness. There's

514
00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:22,320
Speaker 2: no way around that. That's why people who say they're

515
00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:25,120
Speaker 2: working through stuff but never actually do don't ever change

516
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:27,440
Speaker 2: their lives because they are really not looking at that

517
00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:30,040
Speaker 2: darkness and making changes. You have to go into that

518
00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:32,080
Speaker 2: night of the soul right to be able to come

519
00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:35,600
Speaker 2: out of it. It's the same with working with entity.

520
00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:37,640
Speaker 2: You have to face it head on and not be

521
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:41,040
Speaker 2: afraid and work through it no matter what to come

522
00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:41,920
Speaker 2: out of it well.

523
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:44,960
Speaker 1: And that's where I really see a parallel from my

524
00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:49,840
Speaker 1: own story with addiction. And you know what you were

525
00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:51,640
Speaker 1: saying about you have to be willing to do it

526
00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:53,680
Speaker 1: and you have to face it head on.

527
00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:57,040
Speaker 2: It's so true. And it's like, you know how you

528
00:31:57,080 --> 00:31:59,840
Speaker 2: talk to people, you know, because I see people obviously

529
00:31:59,920 --> 00:32:02,800
Speaker 2: all kinds for all kinds of things, and you talk

530
00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:05,200
Speaker 2: to people and they're just like, I don't know why

531
00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:08,120
Speaker 2: nothing will change, and you keep saying, here's what you

532
00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:10,600
Speaker 2: have to do in order to do it. You have

533
00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:13,440
Speaker 2: to do the work that make change. Like we can

534
00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:17,000
Speaker 2: make you clean and fresh and ready to make the change,

535
00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:19,440
Speaker 2: but you have to continue that journey on your own

536
00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:22,280
Speaker 2: in order to stay clean, in order to stay well,

537
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:25,920
Speaker 2: in order to keep moving upward. That's your job for yourself.

538
00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:28,280
Speaker 2: And there are so many people who are like, Nope,

539
00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:30,600
Speaker 2: that's too scary, and then to come back and are like,

540
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:34,240
Speaker 2: well this didn't work. Yeah, you know.

541
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:35,480
Speaker 1: It's a daily practice.

542
00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:38,240
Speaker 2: It is. It's a daily practice.

543
00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:38,480
Speaker 1: You know.

544
00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:41,000
Speaker 2: You can't just talk the talk, you got to walk

545
00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:41,480
Speaker 2: that walk.

546
00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:45,160
Speaker 1: Well, so many people are just so comfortable in the

547
00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:48,920
Speaker 1: darkness or you know, I especially with the way the

548
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:51,680
Speaker 1: world is right now, it's very easy to fall into

549
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:56,800
Speaker 1: that trap, you know, I think is. But it's ultimately

550
00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:59,160
Speaker 1: what is that doing for yourself?

551
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:02,600
Speaker 2: I mean exactly, And like you were saying right now,

552
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:06,160
Speaker 2: that's a trap. You know, that is a trap. What

553
00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:10,720
Speaker 2: you're seeing as believing that's a trap. You have all

554
00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:13,280
Speaker 2: of the power inside of you to create the life

555
00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:16,000
Speaker 2: that you want to create the world that you want

556
00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:19,200
Speaker 2: to bring in everything good in your life. All you

557
00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:21,720
Speaker 2: have to do is believe it and start.

558
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:24,480
Speaker 1: If you wanted to be one of those spiritual gurus,

559
00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:25,800
Speaker 1: you would be real good at it.

560
00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:28,920
Speaker 2: But the thing is, I don't. That's the thing. It's like,

561
00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:33,240
Speaker 2: don't believe me if I'm a spiritual guru. You know, everybody,

562
00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:35,480
Speaker 2: this is the thing we are all. We all have this.

563
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:38,920
Speaker 2: We all have it, every single person. I can't tell

564
00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:42,760
Speaker 2: you how many people have come to me. I mean

565
00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:45,040
Speaker 2: I have one, you know, just real quickly. I had

566
00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:48,200
Speaker 2: one client who came to me via Skype and it

567
00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:50,360
Speaker 2: was just a communication kind of like we're doing now.

568
00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:54,000
Speaker 2: But specific to what his needs were. And you know,

569
00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:57,880
Speaker 2: I said listen, like he had you know, he was

570
00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:01,040
Speaker 2: with this particular woman and wasn't ending a job, and

571
00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:05,280
Speaker 2: you know, everything was so messy. Okay, I said, listen, Okay,

572
00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:08,560
Speaker 2: here's what is happening in your life. Here's why, here's

573
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:12,480
Speaker 2: where your frequency is at. Let's let's take control. I'm

574
00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:14,520
Speaker 2: going to tell you, like, here's the eight thousand things

575
00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:17,239
Speaker 2: that I want you to try start doing. And I'm

576
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:19,160
Speaker 2: telling you, if you start doing this, this will change

577
00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:22,040
Speaker 2: your life. And so he was like, Okay, I'm not

578
00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:24,680
Speaker 2: sure that will do it, but I'm going to try, right.

579
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:28,880
Speaker 2: I was like, fair enough. So he starts doing it. Meanwhile,

580
00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:33,080
Speaker 2: a year later, he schedules another appointment. I end up

581
00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:35,799
Speaker 2: seeing him again, and this entire thing was just to

582
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:39,520
Speaker 2: tell me that he did the work. He continued to

583
00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:41,040
Speaker 2: do the work after the amount of time, because I

584
00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:42,840
Speaker 2: always tell people to do it for thirty days to

585
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:45,200
Speaker 2: give it a real try. He continued to do it

586
00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:48,880
Speaker 2: for the entire year, ended up with someone completely different.

587
00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:52,160
Speaker 2: Got his dream job. Was able to communicate with spirit

588
00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:55,399
Speaker 2: so clearly that one day when he was walking home

589
00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:58,840
Speaker 2: from work, because apparently he could walk he heard spirit

590
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:00,960
Speaker 2: in his ear, which is something that we teach, something

591
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:03,560
Speaker 2: that you can open up your lines of communication for.

592
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:07,080
Speaker 2: He heards for it say I want you to walk

593
00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:09,799
Speaker 2: the other way. And he said, if I had ever

594
00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:12,160
Speaker 2: heard that in my brain before, I would have dismissed

595
00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:13,759
Speaker 2: it as a thought. I would have said no. I

596
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:16,160
Speaker 2: would have been like, you're crazy. And he's like, but

597
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:18,680
Speaker 2: I knew better. And I turned around and he ran

598
00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:23,680
Speaker 2: into someone he hadn't seen in twenty years because he listened.

599
00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:27,200
Speaker 1: I usually, I think I always look at that as intuition.

600
00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:31,600
Speaker 2: That's fine, that's fine, whatever, whatever you want to call it.

601
00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:32,240
Speaker 2: It's the voice.

602
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:35,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, I listened to it, and I encourage people to

603
00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:35,960
Speaker 1: all the.

604
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:40,600
Speaker 2: Time, exactly. And that's also how we start mediumship, which

605
00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:42,719
Speaker 2: people are afraid to do too. But it's like, if

606
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:44,799
Speaker 2: you feel like you could talk to diseased people, which

607
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:48,279
Speaker 2: again I say everybody can, just at varying degrees, it's

608
00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:50,800
Speaker 2: like the first thing you have to do is start trusting.

609
00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:53,239
Speaker 2: You have to start trusting what you receive. And that

610
00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:56,000
Speaker 2: is the hardest thing for people to do, is trust.

611
00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:59,160
Speaker 1: When I think that, like with red flags, like people

612
00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:04,480
Speaker 1: ignore red flags. And one thing that I've learned from

613
00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:07,640
Speaker 1: my life is I've learned, Okay, if I start seeing,

614
00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:10,160
Speaker 1: like with dating, oh, if I know that this person

615
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:13,680
Speaker 1: is going to be doing this thing on the second date,

616
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:16,279
Speaker 1: if I keep ignoring it, it's going to turn into

617
00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:18,319
Speaker 1: a real problem in a couple of weeks. And I've

618
00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:22,560
Speaker 1: already learned that lesson that. Now I feel like I

619
00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:25,560
Speaker 1: am in tune to that and I and I feel

620
00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:29,600
Speaker 1: like I encounter so many friends where I'm like, you

621
00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:34,719
Speaker 1: can't you can't ignore that the signal that goes off.

622
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:37,719
Speaker 1: You know, you have to listen to yourself and know

623
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:40,120
Speaker 1: what you want and what you don't want. I think

624
00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:42,280
Speaker 1: it comes down to self esteem as well.

625
00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:46,080
Speaker 2: It does, it really does. And that's where people I say, like,

626
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:50,879
Speaker 2: so many people will ignore such such bad shit when

627
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:53,480
Speaker 2: it comes to being with someone, and it makes me

628
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:57,160
Speaker 2: want to scream, like I'm just like, ah, don't don't

629
00:36:57,160 --> 00:37:01,120
Speaker 2: do that, because you are worthy. You do deserve someone

630
00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:03,719
Speaker 2: who treats you with respect and love and communication and

631
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:05,640
Speaker 2: all these things. And you know what, I wish there

632
00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:08,479
Speaker 2: were more people who love themselves enough who would say

633
00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:11,440
Speaker 2: all this as shit. I don't want any of this.

634
00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:14,200
Speaker 2: I might not know what's good for me. Yet I'm

635
00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:16,239
Speaker 2: going to take some time and be alone. I'm going

636
00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:19,279
Speaker 2: to love myself enough to get to know me, to

637
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:23,320
Speaker 2: not settle to not being mediocre, and to get exactly

638
00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:23,879
Speaker 2: what I want.

639
00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:28,200
Speaker 1: Mm. Well, it's a matter of like looking outside, Like

640
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:30,520
Speaker 1: I think looking at the big picture is a big

641
00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:32,719
Speaker 1: part of that too. I think sometimes people are so

642
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:37,280
Speaker 1: caught up in the moment and they're not really looking

643
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:40,799
Speaker 1: outside of themselves or looking above. I always look at

644
00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:47,040
Speaker 1: it as I look above myself at where the next

645
00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:49,399
Speaker 1: frames in the storyboard are.

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Speaker 2: That's so true, And it's like how many people are

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Speaker 2: just like, well, this is fine for now, but you

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Speaker 2: are also saying wait a minute. You're also saying five

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Speaker 2: years from now, you'd like to be married in this, that,

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Speaker 2: or whatever whatever your goals are, but you're actually not

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Speaker 2: doing that at all.

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Speaker 1: Okay, do you think that me having fun with with well,

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Speaker 1: it's usually ghosts, but I try to stay away from

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Speaker 1: dark stuff. But having fun with it when I joke,

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Speaker 1: is that is that causing problems?

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Speaker 2: Is that attracting ghosts are good?

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Speaker 1: But what about with dark energies?

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Speaker 2: I mean you might come across like a crotchety ghost

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Speaker 2: who doesn't love it. But I mean they're very harmless

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Speaker 2: like to seize people. Really, they're not entity like. They

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Speaker 2: can be annoying, like I say, they can throw things,

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Speaker 2: they can have tantrum, they might be able to speak

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Speaker 2: like you might be able to hear them, but they

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Speaker 2: just really can't harm you in the way that an

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Speaker 2: entity can. But they can just express their you know,

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Speaker 2: unhappy feeling.

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Speaker 1: But what about when I'm like joking about entity I

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Speaker 1: feel like it's not really something to joke about.

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Speaker 2: I do. I do all the time, and I see

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Speaker 2: them in a lot of people, like you have to

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Speaker 2: what are you going to do just be sad all

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Speaker 2: the time? Now? Yeah, well no, and you're taking your

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Speaker 2: power back when you do that, right, That's what I think.

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Speaker 2: That's what you're doing. And like, I don't know if

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Speaker 2: this is appropriate to say on here, but what I

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Speaker 2: tell people to do all the time, including children, which

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Speaker 2: is in the book, is if you feel this thing coming,

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Speaker 2: like you know, after we've worked on on stuff, or

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Speaker 2: if you you know, are are feeling kind of off

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Speaker 2: in the car or feeling whatever whatever, I tell people

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Speaker 2: to clearly scream fuck off. Yes.

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Speaker 1: I love that part.

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Speaker 2: Because you are owning your power and doing that. By

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Speaker 2: doing that, you're instantly raising your vibration and you're acknowledging

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Speaker 2: that this is not you and you are aware.

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Speaker 1: And is that the meaning behind the like? Is it

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Speaker 1: the conviction of saying fuck? Like? What that means to

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Speaker 1: us humans is such a powerful word and that's what.

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Speaker 2: It is exactly. And telling the child to say that,

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Speaker 2: though they're not parents, are not always happy about that

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Speaker 2: is double you know what I mean, because they're not

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Speaker 2: allowed to say that. So that's a whole other thing.

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Speaker 2: It's about taking your power back.

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Speaker 1: Oh so cool. Okay, we need to wrap this up.

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Speaker 1: I hope that everybody reads your book. I'm definitely going

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Speaker 1: to be talking about your book and like the intro

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Speaker 1: and outro of this podcast, of course, And I did

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Speaker 1: I just I have.

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Speaker 2: A store a cover story in this month's Cosmo in

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Speaker 2: October Cosmo.

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Speaker 1: Congrats, Yeah, thank you. What's it about? Or can you

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Speaker 1: hint at what it was about?

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Speaker 2: Someone who came to me who wanted to exercise her

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Speaker 2: past relationship.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, that's very Cosmo. I love her. She

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Speaker 1: is so cool and I hope you go check out

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Speaker 1: her book, Sister of Darkness and follow her on Instagram

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Speaker 1: at r H Davis and she's a great follow and uh,

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Speaker 1: I'm so glad that she came on. Okay, I wanted

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Speaker 1: to tell you about the time I went to the Cecil.

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Speaker 1: So if you don't live in La the Cecil it's

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Speaker 1: not like it's not like one of those swanky hotels.

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Speaker 1: It's not like Chateau Marmont or the standard of the Rosevelt.

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Speaker 1: It's not like a place you hang out at at all.

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Speaker 1: But this one night, I was for some reason, I

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Speaker 1: was downtown, maybe I was working at a club or something,

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Speaker 1: and I was with my friend. I knew what it

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Speaker 1: was because everyone knew about the water tank story and

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Speaker 1: we had seen the video, and I was like, let's

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Speaker 1: just try to go in. Let's just see what would

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Speaker 1: happen if we just went in. So we we were

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Speaker 1: able to park like right in front. It was this

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Speaker 1: like a week night, and we just like went in

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Speaker 1: and nobody cared, and I just kind of wanted to

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Speaker 1: see what it was. Honestly, I was just very curious.

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Speaker 1: We went in, and we went in the elevator and

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Speaker 1: we went to maybe the top floor and just kind

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Speaker 1: of walked around the hallways and then eventually security did

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Speaker 1: come up and be like, where's your room key? And

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Speaker 1: we were all, what's that behind you? And then just

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Speaker 1: you know, vanished. But I'll just say that the energy

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Speaker 1: was it was dark. I mean I now, of course

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Speaker 1: I did have the knowledge of what that place was

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Speaker 1: in the back of my head, so that could inform

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Speaker 1: the way I felt, But I just didn't like it

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Speaker 1: in there at all, and I hope to never go

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Speaker 1: back in there, to be honest, but a very fascinating

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Speaker 1: place anyway. Thank you guys so much for listening, and

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Speaker 1: as always, hopefully there's other people out there that are

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Speaker 1: looking for things to get their mind off of the world,

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Speaker 1: So please keep telling people about the show, and as

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Speaker 1: with Rachel this week where she talks about haunted dolls

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Speaker 1: and Annabelle and her thoughts on that by going to

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Speaker 1: the description of this episode. I'm on Instagram at rozdres Falas.

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Speaker 1: ghosted by Roz at gmail dot com. I love you all,

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Speaker 1: both living and dead. But if I didn't ask you

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Speaker 1: to haunt me, don't haunt me.

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