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Speaker 4: MADDI spent the media today talk Toledo Hall of Fame.
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Speaker 3: And by the way, okay, just to our listeners, no
Speaker 3: very church in Toledo Hall of Fame.
Speaker 4: And was it last week?
Speaker 3: We asked Church to bring in something Toledo anything wearing
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Speaker 4: I think That's what I'm saying before. He doesn't have
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Speaker 3: So Toledo Hall of Famer Barry Church and Toledo Hall
Speaker 3: of Famer Cawboy's defensive coordinator Matt Even the meeting today
Speaker 3: and talking about well, they're still working to find an
Speaker 3: identity and changes he said will be subtle. Quote, whenever
Speaker 3: your performance has been inconsistent or not to the standard,
Speaker 3: you look at everything. Nothing is off the table. Keep working.
Speaker 3: The solutions are in the room.
Speaker 6: All right.
Speaker 7: So if nothing is off the table, if nothing is
Speaker 7: off the table, we're we're throwing everything we have at
Speaker 7: this dark board. You you would think they would try
Speaker 7: to put a little bit more man into the situation.
Speaker 4: Like we all understand.
Speaker 7: Like zone coverage, I mean, that's that's his that's his
Speaker 7: staple piece, that's his you know, he loves to have
Speaker 7: everybody vision on the quarterback. He believes that's you know,
Speaker 7: how you get turnovers in the secondary. And I get
Speaker 7: all that, but we've seen it's a six week sample
Speaker 7: size right now. Zone it ain't really working when you
Speaker 7: come to this defense right now. I understand it would
Speaker 7: be a lot better if you had a pass rush.
Speaker 7: I get all that, but the zone ain't really working
Speaker 7: right is that all that's all they be. It's in
Speaker 7: the stats bro that that it's hundred it's like ninety
Speaker 7: eighty five ninety percent zone, So it's it's a huge
Speaker 7: sample size of zone.
Speaker 4: So you would think maybe a little bit more Man
Speaker 4: might might a little.
Speaker 5: Anyone asked for me, you hit what you say in
Speaker 5: the beginning of that though the rush okay, got past,
Speaker 5: and I get it, I get it.
Speaker 6: But but right now that the rush zone at work,
Speaker 6: what about the coverage like the customers, That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: It's been your philosophy.
Speaker 6: I feel like the few times that it has been
Speaker 6: man like, it's been bombs over bad Dad, but.
Speaker 7: We know it's been bombs over back Dad with zone like.
Speaker 7: That's that's that's that's that's an known fact right now
Speaker 7: looks like.
Speaker 5: Man within the zone, man to man or whatever dang
Speaker 5: covering they've had. And and I haven't I haven't seen
Speaker 5: the numbers that you've seen it. So you know what
Speaker 5: the rate of you know, zones compared to man is.
Speaker 5: But at the end of the day, it's still boils
Speaker 5: down to you making the play man.
Speaker 4: Now, that's facts.
Speaker 5: That's it still boils down to that and your pride
Speaker 5: as a player too as well.
Speaker 3: So Nick, Nick Harris before we'll start telegram tweeted out
Speaker 3: a picture of the dB group and he says, uh,
Speaker 3: you know practice today that started.
Speaker 4: The corners were running through man press techniques. There we go,
Speaker 4: there we go. Maybe just switch up the philosophy.
Speaker 5: That's what I was out there Washington, and they something else.
Speaker 4: So Trayvon Diggs is you.
Speaker 6: Know, I hope it works. Asked for this, he asked
Speaker 6: for he.
Speaker 4: Brought it up, and.
Speaker 5: Can they do something? All right? And you you know,
Speaker 5: like I know, okay, if you want to play man
Speaker 5: and Diggs likes to play a lot of press man
Speaker 5: too as well. Diggs is a long corner who never
Speaker 5: actually uses his hands when he gets impressed man, and
Speaker 5: he and and he never touches anybody you're defeating. You're
Speaker 5: taking all of your your great intangibles away from what
Speaker 5: from from game, all right, And then you get down
Speaker 5: there and you want to turn everything into a foot race,
Speaker 5: and you're clearly not as fast as a lot of
Speaker 5: these guys are. So well, and I've seen dudes. I
Speaker 5: played with a guy named Chris Dishmond who was never
Speaker 5: a fast corner and I watched what he would do
Speaker 5: it to Jerry Rice or anybody that came up against him.
Speaker 5: So when your technique is pure, he'll tell you, like,
Speaker 5: I know your technique is pure. It can't be stopped.
Speaker 4: Was a street fighter too, hey boy?
Speaker 6: He was, he was.
Speaker 3: He was a technician, toll you. But he mixed it
Speaker 3: up with you, Chris. He was not exactly he was
Speaker 3: street fighting now that one boy he got down.
Speaker 4: Yes, facts and so all day long for you.
Speaker 5: And so I'm old school with it, you know what
Speaker 5: I'm saying. Like what it boils down to, It's like, Okay,
Speaker 5: I might not want to play this, but this is
Speaker 5: what I got to play right now. This is what's called.
Speaker 5: And so for me, I got to do with what
Speaker 5: you know. It ain't about me. I can't play for me.
Speaker 5: I gotta play for us.
Speaker 3: What us is doing right now is giving up two
Speaker 3: hundred and ninety six five yards game, dead last in
Speaker 3: the NFL when it comes to passing. That is what
Speaker 3: the Boys defense is doing right now, giving up thirty
Speaker 3: point seven points a game, thirty first in the league.
Speaker 3: So what they're doing and trying to look at different
Speaker 3: things on the table, you know, good because what they've
Speaker 3: been running has been embarrassing. When you're getting drilled and
Speaker 3: the offense is doing its part. The offense is averaging
Speaker 3: twenty nine points seven games. If somebody runs out there
Speaker 3: thirty points you in this league, you should be able
Speaker 3: to win these games, and they're not.
Speaker 6: Is it more?
Speaker 7: Did we put what's the onus? We're putting on the players?
Speaker 7: That's what I was about to say, the percentage you're
Speaker 7: putting on there.
Speaker 5: So I'm gonna say this. I set up in here
Speaker 5: and I listen, see y'all big up coach Eberflus.
Speaker 4: For weeks he is see that, he that he gonna listen,
Speaker 4: he gonna do this.
Speaker 5: He goes now now yeah now it's like y'all don't
Speaker 5: even look at him the same way.
Speaker 6: No more. Right now, I did say that that that
Speaker 6: might be him, But I've been saying for a weekend
Speaker 6: and week out, like you said, it's the players. Like
Speaker 6: I still stand by what I said by ebra Flus.
Speaker 6: He's smart, he's gritty, he's gonna do what he needs
Speaker 6: to do. And even then he's still a team guy.
Speaker 6: Like if he's not a man guy, but he's sitting
Speaker 6: here saying, hey, I'm gonna run a little bit of man,
Speaker 6: I'm going to incorporate this. I'm going to try to
Speaker 6: switch up the terminology and maybe do one worded cause
Speaker 6: like he's a people of the man but trying to
Speaker 6: stay up here to his own values and stuff like that.
Speaker 6: And in a sense, you're handcuffing him just so he
Speaker 6: can keep the locker room or keep the players. You're
Speaker 6: doing all this and changing yourself. So for me, I
Speaker 6: still stand by Flutes. He's doing what he's been doing
Speaker 6: right now. Schematically wise, he's there. But like you said,
Speaker 6: it's the players. Like when you ask what is the percentage,
Speaker 6: I'm gonna say it's seventy thirty players. Like when it
Speaker 6: comes to players out here, yes, schematically, some people got
Speaker 6: to put us in the system. But if you're smart enough,
Speaker 6: you go out there, you work hard enough, you're gonna
Speaker 6: make a play eventually going to get there. And that's
Speaker 6: why I say I don't care about playing a little
Speaker 6: bit more. Man, I don't care about the blitzes and
Speaker 6: the past rush is like, yeah, you do that, but
Speaker 6: in a sense close this door and say, hey, defense,
Speaker 6: when are we going to play? And I don't see
Speaker 6: that from nobody. All I see is excuses.
Speaker 5: That's all I'm here.
Speaker 4: Somebody said, pride, where's the pride at?
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's true too.
Speaker 4: You gotta play for the minute the name on the
Speaker 4: back of your jersey.
Speaker 3: So they are trying to do something as they get
Speaker 3: ready to host the Washington Commanders here. The Commanders are
Speaker 3: three and three football team. The Cowboys are two, three
Speaker 3: and one. I sent you guys the listed. The Cowboys
Speaker 3: have the toughest schedule the rest of the way. Okay, Cowboys,
Speaker 3: it's hard.
Speaker 4: It's hard.
Speaker 3: I had the toughest schedules the rest of the way.
Speaker 3: The Cowboys are one, Minnesota is two, Philadelphia is three,
Speaker 3: Washington is four, the Giants are five, and the Cowboys
Speaker 3: are facing all of those teams. They got games against two.
Speaker 3: One game in December on Sunday night football against Minnesota.
Speaker 3: Don't they're going to keep it another game against Phillity.
Speaker 3: They that quick, They're gonna wait.
Speaker 6: This.
Speaker 4: I got to ask Hall of Famer since I worked there.
Speaker 3: First off, they do everything they can and not flex.
Speaker 3: The Capital Cowboys a great range.
Speaker 4: But come December, between Minnesota.
Speaker 3: And the Cowboys, if there are no hopes of playoffs,
Speaker 3: they're gonna get off of it.
Speaker 6: Now.
Speaker 3: If there's a chance a sniff that a player that
Speaker 3: oh they're technically still in it, they will do the
Speaker 3: best they can. They did that one year and the
Speaker 3: Cowboys are still kind of hanging on by a thread.
Speaker 3: Played the games and the Cowboys got out of it.
Speaker 3: But you know, they got the ratings. So the Cowboys
Speaker 3: give fantastic ratings, win, loser, draw. But Minnesota without your
Speaker 3: boy McCarthy possibly not being there, if it's Carson Wentz
Speaker 3: and is and it's going down here, wait to see.
Speaker 4: But I just just Inmber fourteen, it's gonna be.
Speaker 3: It's it's a strong possibility at this point in time,
Speaker 3: I would say it's a strong possibility.
Speaker 6: Is it more predicated off of the Cowboys or like say, Minnesota's.
Speaker 4: And Cowboys, it's the cat.
Speaker 5: If Minnesota could be not win another game, as long
Speaker 5: as the Cowboys keep winning, it's still going to be
Speaker 5: on TV.
Speaker 3: Basically, as long as the Cowboys are in the playoff hunt,
Speaker 3: they're going to do what they can to air the game.
Speaker 4: That is what that that is what they do.
Speaker 3: And then if the Cowboys are good and they've got
Speaker 3: any reason to put flex the Cowboys into a Sunday
Speaker 3: game like one year when they.
Speaker 4: Faced Jameis Winston Company.
Speaker 3: And then the Bucks were still in it, and the
Speaker 3: Cowboy they added a fifth one, uh, the fifth fifth postseason,
Speaker 3: I mean a fifth on because you're only allowed three
Speaker 3: on Sunday Night football. But they yeah, they kicked in
Speaker 3: a fourth when and then the Cowboys made the playoffs
Speaker 3: and that was on NBC. So it's five NBC games
Speaker 3: and so they yeah, so flex flex, you can do
Speaker 3: whatever you want. Know, when the regular season comes out,
Speaker 3: when they release their schedule, you're not gonna see a
Speaker 3: team on more than three. That's your limit. But come
Speaker 3: flex time, they get to nbccts to do what they want.
Speaker 3: And if the Cowboys are good, they go get them
Speaker 3: because the ratings are always there. Love them or hate them,
Speaker 3: they bring ratings. They're like raw is war. Okay, they go,
Speaker 3: they put them up there, they're they're fine. And but
Speaker 3: December right now, I would tell you I'd be might
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Speaker 4: Week though, But but this week you gotta get this
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Speaker 6: But do you believe how much do you believe it?
Speaker 4: They got it? They gotta they gotta change. No no, no, no,
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Speaker 4: Man, Church, Mister Church had something. What's more settled with exactly.
Speaker 4: It's just like, I don't know what you guys talking
Speaker 4: about something. Church. You were saying something before the break.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I was saying, yeah, man, confidence in this week's game,
Speaker 7: Dallas Cowboys Washington.
Speaker 4: Commanders, and you get it.
Speaker 7: You are getting well if you know everything works all
Speaker 7: in practice, you're getting CD Lamb back into the bar.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was a picture of CD and Shotty together.
Speaker 4: He was out there doing this thing, running around to
Speaker 4: all that good stuff.
Speaker 7: So you're getting CD Lamb back to an already explosive offense.
Speaker 7: This is another week with Tyler Smith back in the lineup,
Speaker 7: all right, So the offsive line is jelling once again.
Speaker 4: They so you know, I mean, offensively, I'm not worried
Speaker 4: about it. Defensively, you know, you're going against.
Speaker 7: Jaye Dames, one of the most dynamic quarterbacks in the
Speaker 7: National Football League. There are also reports out there that
Speaker 7: they may get scary Terry McClory back into the lineup.
Speaker 7: He's missed the past three games, but we all know
Speaker 7: how that is with rust and all that good stuff. Overall,
Speaker 7: my confidence level on the Dallas Cowboy was winning this
Speaker 7: ball game.
Speaker 4: Brown seventy five eighty percent.
Speaker 7: Seventy five eighty You don't I even believe that they're
Speaker 7: not They're not stopping the.
Speaker 4: Coda Rane, Prescott, ce Lamb, George Pickings.
Speaker 6: They're not.
Speaker 4: But they gotta shut I hope you hit They're gonna win.
Speaker 4: To shoot up.
Speaker 6: You said if they have to shoot out. You forgot
Speaker 6: to mention about those two running backs back there that's.
Speaker 4: Doing there, talking about the ones I was fumbling last week.
Speaker 6: You're talking about you're talking about the defense that over here.
Speaker 6: Maye Brees Hall like, if you don't want to.
Speaker 4: Wee what you do that, you're gonna be firing out.
Speaker 6: We'll come back out there, come back eighty eight and
Speaker 6: out the gate.
Speaker 4: I don't know, man, I don't know.
Speaker 6: It's not like therese some scrubs over there, those young
Speaker 6: up and coming guys that are learning from them. Wins
Speaker 6: Man as I said, effishing efficient.
Speaker 4: Worried about his pocket. That's why you know he don't
Speaker 4: want to come out of his podcast.
Speaker 7: So what what's your confidence? And the Commanders winning this
Speaker 7: ball game? And this this Commander's team winning this ball
Speaker 7: game coming up. I'm gonna do the opposite of what
Speaker 7: you said.
Speaker 4: I'm like, you're eighty percent leaning towards George Washington.
Speaker 6: I am, unfortunately, because it's not the offense, like you said,
Speaker 6: it's the defense that we're all worried about. Are they
Speaker 6: gonna come out, are they gonna make adjustments? And then
Speaker 6: for you to just switch something. So abruptly and say hey,
Speaker 6: I'm letting it know we're gonna be doing Man, I'm asking,
Speaker 6: are you really doing this or are you trying to
Speaker 6: fake them out? So, yes, I'm worried about the defense.
Speaker 6: But most importantly, besides we know the big X factor
Speaker 6: is the defense. I don't care what you say. I'm
Speaker 6: worried about this offense. The office is doing what they've
Speaker 6: been doing. But to incorporate another superstar, are you gonna
Speaker 6: force feed them? Like? What is this dynamic's gonna look like?
Speaker 6: Right now? Your number one guy that has been holding
Speaker 6: you down is obviously before he does what he does.
Speaker 6: But the number one weapon see or has been picket
Speaker 6: How is that gonna look for that? So for me,
Speaker 6: that makes me a little nervous. Are they still gonna
Speaker 6: be as potent? Because now when you're trying to force
Speaker 6: feed somebody, it's like, hey, you're taking away from the
Speaker 6: guy with the hot end and trying to get this
Speaker 6: guy that's coming off of injury first week back against
Speaker 6: another offense that you're saying, hey, we're going to do
Speaker 6: a shootout with You know how it is when you
Speaker 6: get behind that eight ball.
Speaker 3: So it's basically a darn near tossile game with Vegas
Speaker 3: has this right now. So what's the spread or the
Speaker 3: one I've seen is a point and a half for Washington's.
Speaker 3: But it's it's fluctuates spending on who you go to ceedee.
Speaker 3: Lamb's coming back. Talked to Tyler Booker earlier this week.
Speaker 3: Right guard he's expected.
Speaker 4: To be back.
Speaker 6: He didn't.
Speaker 5: I'm looking at the injury be fort right now. He
Speaker 5: didn't practice yesterday, so.
Speaker 3: He said, leave it up to the training staff, and
Speaker 3: so he's he could be back. He talked about turping.
Speaker 3: Jerry's already cleared them off. You already and Tuesday, Tuesday,
Speaker 3: doctor j Let everybody know, you know, expecting.
Speaker 6: Game is right, he said, all hands on deck. I
Speaker 6: don't care.
Speaker 4: So this is the you guys know the division game here,
Speaker 4: This is a division game.
Speaker 6: Gotta win the game at home. Uh.
Speaker 4: The Cowboys have played good here, you know, they have
Speaker 4: played well.
Speaker 3: Beat beat Russ Wilson and the Giants in overtime, took
Speaker 3: Micah and company on Sunday Night Football in the overtime.
Speaker 4: So here, okay, so far they'll be in the game.
Speaker 4: They're gonna be in the game.
Speaker 3: And at this point in time. You kind of look
Speaker 3: at the Carolina game. If this bad defense, if you
Speaker 3: can just hang around here in the fourth quarter, see
Speaker 3: what you can do.
Speaker 5: Hey, you're gonna be You're gonna be at the game too. No,
Speaker 5: you ain't gonna beat there. You said they it's a
Speaker 5: lot of people gonna be in the game.
Speaker 4: Where is they gonna win and go to Arizona?
Speaker 5: Okay, I go to Arizona.
Speaker 6: But what's your confidence? Really, you're playing pretty neutral right now.
Speaker 4: You have no confidence with this defense. I mean you
Speaker 4: really can't.
Speaker 3: I mean they can go out here, perform well like
Speaker 3: they did against Green Baint and come out head, lay
Speaker 3: down and get punching them out and roll over like
Speaker 3: a two dollar hook like they did up there against
Speaker 3: Carolina's Rico sitting up there telling you.
Speaker 4: You know, buckle up, cheap, cheap two dollars. I mean,
Speaker 4: my god, no, frid five dollars, but damn five make change.
Speaker 4: This is embarrassing.
Speaker 6: I was.
Speaker 4: That was just embarrassing. I don't know what I'm gonna get.
Speaker 4: You don't know what you're gonna get. They don't know.
Speaker 4: They don't know. So he can sit up here.
Speaker 3: Hey, many working out man concepts Okay, you're working on
Speaker 3: it now, but you get out there, it does it work.
Speaker 3: So they're they're throwing they're throwing up straws against If
Speaker 3: they throwing things against the wall.
Speaker 4: To see what works, you will see.
Speaker 6: Let me let me follow up and ask you this
Speaker 6: question then, since we all know everybody keeps saying this
Speaker 6: is the defense and this is what the game is
Speaker 6: gonna come down to. Is your confidence more in eber
Speaker 6: Flus coming out here and making these adjustments and getting
Speaker 6: them right schematically, or is your confidence more within the
Speaker 6: players to say, hey, they're gonna take a sense of ownership,
Speaker 6: like who who do you have more confidence going in
Speaker 6: to get the problems fixed this week?
Speaker 4: The players?
Speaker 3: At some point I had to have some pride you guys.
Speaker 3: You three played the game. I didn't play the game,
Speaker 3: all right, you know, Barry Church to Montree More and
Speaker 3: Anthony Will. You guys played the game. So after an
Speaker 3: embarrassment performance like this where dude you used to play
Speaker 3: with told you to buckle up, went for two hundred
Speaker 3: plus total yards for a franchise record of Carolina, you
Speaker 3: on TV giving up a whole drive at six or
Speaker 3: seven to go, do you respond and you come home.
Speaker 3: You know, you got your family coming to the game.
Speaker 3: You know, got tickets fed by because you know they
Speaker 3: gonna want to come because this is what the second,
Speaker 3: the third now game, So you know, hey, we're flying
Speaker 3: in that that that that the necond game.
Speaker 4: Next game is not till till next month. Brothers is
Speaker 4: coming in. All the former Cowboys will be.
Speaker 6: That's the Cowboys legend. Yeah it is.
Speaker 4: I don't know, you know, stop.
Speaker 6: If you know, like I know, it's cracious. Man. Hey man, everybody,
Speaker 6: everybody can't be a dirty mac church out was wild
Speaker 6: but here.
Speaker 4: But by the way, Terry McLaurin not in practice, man,
Speaker 4: I hope he stays.
Speaker 6: On the side.
Speaker 7: But when the game is it's just close. This fit
Speaker 7: is a toss up. It is the tend to lean
Speaker 7: towards who has the better quarterback. Right now, I say
Speaker 7: Dallas's the better quarterback.
Speaker 6: You don't lean towards the better quarterback. And you got
Speaker 6: a young, spazy guy you got why would you? Quarterback
Speaker 6: league defense don't win championships. A quarterback league defense don't
Speaker 6: win the championships. I'm a defensive player. I'm looking at
Speaker 6: the defense. I look at DQ and them defense.
Speaker 3: Carolina have a better quarterback. I mean, Dak Prescott did
Speaker 3: all he could do.
Speaker 6: He did exactly. That's what That's what I'm saying. So
Speaker 6: his statement about the better quarterback winning, it's.
Speaker 3: I mean, with this defense, you know clearly we're seeing
Speaker 3: Dak's not perfect. But look the way he's playing right now,
Speaker 3: it don't matter.
Speaker 6: He's playing well.
Speaker 3: Eleven touchdown he's got past three games, past three games,
Speaker 3: eleven touchdowns over andrey yards passing and one interception.
Speaker 6: Dude is doing all exactly. And that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: Barry statement was in the game that's disclosed. The better
Speaker 6: quarterback wins. Last week when we all were talking about this,
Speaker 6: we said that the Panthers are more They're closer team
Speaker 6: than what you think if you're looking like that. So
Speaker 6: they have proven time and time again already this season
Speaker 6: that they have lost the close.
Speaker 3: Battles if they got the ball, if the cabin ended, yes,
Speaker 3: to have the ball. But with George Pickings out there,
Speaker 3: I would tend to go.
Speaker 6: I would love to too. But you know that we've
Speaker 6: seen we've seen a nominally last week, a six minute drive.
Speaker 4: Exactly like how many you go in six minutes?
Speaker 3: Fix it.
Speaker 6: But it ain't just it ain't just fixing it.
Speaker 4: And this week they're gonna fix it.
Speaker 6: Stop digging them.
Speaker 4: Last week it was trying to fix it. This week
Speaker 4: they're gonna they making it.
Speaker 6: They changed it up.
Speaker 4: Man, nothing off the table, but the answer is in
Speaker 4: the room.
Speaker 6: Remember that legedly do that?
Speaker 4: All right? Man?
Speaker 5: Hey, so I'm looking at this. I know Jerry already
Speaker 5: said they playing, but it said CD didn't practice yesterday.
Speaker 4: Actually, but today see the picture him and CD didn't
Speaker 4: practice yesterday. He was limited in practice. Okay. Injury report
Speaker 4: says Booker was also limited in practice.
Speaker 6: I don't I don't need to see an old linement
Speaker 6: in practice. I'm good and confidenting them going into the weekend.
Speaker 6: But that receiver, I need to see you doing some cutting.
Speaker 6: I need you out there high ankles. I need to
Speaker 6: see you getting busy what he said. I don't need
Speaker 6: just to who first period warm up? No, I need
Speaker 6: to see his coach say a good sweat and leather
Speaker 6: out there, sir. I need you to be game like.
Speaker 6: We gotta see this because that's the closest you're gonna get.
Speaker 6: We know you the superstar. We know people gonna hit
Speaker 6: you with the two hand touching. Let you go by
Speaker 6: and practice, Like really, he gotta do some dog work
Speaker 6: for me to feel that confident. But like you said,
Speaker 6: when you have George doing what he's doing, I'm not
Speaker 6: forcing him to do all.
Speaker 7: Just him being on the field should open up it
Speaker 7: so much more for this offense. I mean, if you
Speaker 7: look at that Carolina tape last week, he saw exactly
Speaker 7: what they were doing to stop this the run game.
Speaker 4: They had that extra safety in the box all day.
Speaker 4: Every day.
Speaker 7: They had that extra safety sitting in that box unblocked,
Speaker 7: and they were able to, you know, contain.
Speaker 4: Javonte will you and that front four good?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 7: I mean Brown and I forget the other guy's name,
Speaker 7: but they got some dogs up there.
Speaker 4: But when you add a CD lamb into this package, man,
Speaker 4: I mean it's like pick your poison.
Speaker 7: If you're going to put that safety in the box
Speaker 7: and lean one guy towards CD, then George Pickens will
Speaker 7: be one on one.
Speaker 4: We see what he can do. You lean them towards Pickings.
Speaker 6: You got CD.
Speaker 4: So it should open up so much more for this offense.
Speaker 6: I get it. They'll open up because se CD is
Speaker 6: a Pro Bowl player that he is, but it is
Speaker 6: the office not already opened up enough. You got George Pikett,
Speaker 6: you got Jason Ferguson, who is one of the top
Speaker 6: producing tight ends out there right now doing what he's doing.
Speaker 6: Besides this bad weekend from Javonte Williams. He's the number two,
Speaker 6: if I'm not mistaken, it was. So it opens it up,
Speaker 6: But how much more does it over what.
Speaker 5: They're gonna So we're going hold on off with CD
Speaker 5: coming back? Or is the scheme going change?
Speaker 6: Now?
Speaker 5: Are we going to go from a balance scheme to
Speaker 5: now we're gonna try to throw sixty passes a game
Speaker 5: because he's back in here and and something like that happened.
Speaker 5: So like when when you say it's gonna open things up,
Speaker 5: I mean to an extent, it's going to do something.
Speaker 5: But unless the Cowboys are about to change their whole
Speaker 5: game plan and what they've been doing and being balanced
Speaker 5: as they've been up until this point, a whole lot
Speaker 5: ain't gonna change. It's just gonna be balls going to
Speaker 5: a different side of the field instead of all going
Speaker 5: over here.
Speaker 4: Thing is the same thing you got you Let's let's
Speaker 4: go to the Jets game.
Speaker 7: When Ceede Land was out and you had Pickens over here,
Speaker 7: and Ryan Fanoy went had whatever eleven targets, nine receptions,
Speaker 7: and Pickens only had those two. He had the one
Speaker 7: long touchdown and then he had another slant catch. Now
Speaker 7: you're telling me you put CD Lamb in that Flinoy
Speaker 7: role and you give him the eleven targets or whatever
Speaker 7: the case may be, that offense isn't even more explosive,
Speaker 7: like Florida was able to go out for one hundred
Speaker 7: and fourteen yards and your safety has to operate.
Speaker 4: And you said, yeah, exactly, like it's just it's just
Speaker 4: like you don't have to go ahead and switch.
Speaker 5: Summon. And how many did George have that game?
Speaker 4: He had a couple of targets, but card now he
Speaker 4: has he had.
Speaker 6: The number one quarter.
Speaker 5: Okay, I'm saying the league where we're still talking about
Speaker 5: the number of targets. How many targets did he get
Speaker 5: that day? How many yards did he have?
Speaker 6: Two? Three?
Speaker 5: But also Javonte Williams was going to cross but still
Speaker 5: but you see where the ball went to. It went
Speaker 5: to one dude, And before CD got hurt, that ball
Speaker 5: was going to one dude. George was barely getting any targets.
Speaker 5: So they've shown you what they do. The ball is
Speaker 5: going to go to one dude and the other dude
Speaker 5: is not gonna be even in.
Speaker 4: Go back to the Giants game, that wasn't the case.
Speaker 3: So the first the first game, that was the case,
Speaker 3: and you had SHOTTHEIMRI even talk about, Hey, that was
Speaker 3: my fault. I've got to find ways to get George
Speaker 3: the football more Against the Giants. In that game, Cede
Speaker 3: Lamb had eleven targets, Jake Ferguson had twelve targets, and
Speaker 3: Pickings had nine. So that's what that was the last
Speaker 3: time that CD had played a full game with it.
Speaker 5: So when it goes to opening up, I'm thinking about
Speaker 5: something like that or going back to something that it
Speaker 5: was before. I'm not I'm not picturing something like beyond
Speaker 5: what we've seen and where I say they go to
Speaker 5: throwing the ball forty to sixty times a game. You
Speaker 5: know what I'm saying something like that.
Speaker 6: You know, that's what when I was saying open it
Speaker 6: up the offense, I guess when I asked you that
Speaker 6: counter question, I was more so alluding to the fact
Speaker 6: that now you do have more weapons, like do we
Speaker 6: it's flnor proven enough to say, hey, like you're not
Speaker 6: the main guy, but like you're solid two or three.
Speaker 6: You got Pickings out here that has solidified himself as
Speaker 6: a Oneonte as a one. Yeah, he's a fourth option
Speaker 6: one CD comebacks. But when your fourth option is this good,
Speaker 6: it's like, does it open it up more so just
Speaker 6: because CD's coming in there, or because of the productivity
Speaker 6: that they've already established amongst theirs.
Speaker 4: I think it just gives you more like you can
Speaker 4: have different styles and in different fights.
Speaker 7: In that situation, you can go out there and say,
Speaker 7: all right, y'all, y'all want to shut down Javonte Williams,
Speaker 7: all right, we got this slewer receivers out here, all right,
Speaker 7: y'all playing often, y'all want to take away the passing game. Well,
Speaker 7: that lightens the box for Javonte to get busy. So
Speaker 7: I just think it give you a different style.
Speaker 3: You mentioned some of those very different styles make different fights.
Speaker 3: I mean that Carolina, their front four was just pushing.
Speaker 4: The Cowboy they destroyed it.
Speaker 3: They were pushing them back and whatever tape they saw
Speaker 3: the Jets have and they We're gonna do this this
Speaker 3: and attack the Cowboys in front. They did a very
Speaker 3: good job. So it's a week to week league. Let's
Speaker 3: see exactly how these matchups all work when we come back.
Speaker 3: Dak Prescott up for an award right now, Let's see
Speaker 3: if he might be able.
Speaker 4: To win that. We'll do that next with Barry Church
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Speaker 3: was talk about McLaurin returning to help spark this offense.
Speaker 4: That has not done so well without em.
Speaker 3: He's been dealing with a quadricepts injury and he's missed
Speaker 3: the past three games. You guys, uh, stay on a
Speaker 3: bench and as we say, tell, tell, tell our listeners
Speaker 3: for a what a quad means for a wide receiver. M.
Speaker 7: I have never had one myself, but I would imagine
Speaker 7: that the explosiveness, the start and stop and suddenness that
Speaker 7: you use you, you know a lot of that quad
Speaker 7: muscle for has got to limit you in some way.
Speaker 7: If you're looking at a receiver, it's not always just
Speaker 7: a straight line dash. You know, you're making cuts in
Speaker 7: and out of cuts. You're trying to get away from
Speaker 7: these wide receivers and create separation. So if you have that,
Speaker 7: especially if it's on your dominant leg, your cut leg
Speaker 7: where you create the separation, if you're hampered in that way,
Speaker 7: it's got to limit the functionality of a wide receiver
Speaker 7: OUTO when I can speak for I've had.
Speaker 6: Two quad surgery where I've torn surgery. Yeah, quad surgery
Speaker 6: where you have to repair the media quad coming right
Speaker 6: over the knee that contracts it. You don't realize until
Speaker 6: you have one of those injuries how much your quad controls.
Speaker 6: Like your quad not only controls like your explosiveness, your
Speaker 6: power jumping and stuff like that. This depending on which
Speaker 6: part of the quad you injury is controlling that knee
Speaker 6: right there when you go in, when it's going in
Speaker 6: and out. If you're going to get an ncl a
Speaker 6: cl to like, it's the small things you don't realize
Speaker 6: how much it is. And for a receiver like you said,
Speaker 6: they have to be explosive at the drop of a diamond.
Speaker 6: It's like a Porsche like or drag racing. You have
Speaker 6: to be ready to get up at that top speed
Speaker 6: and to be that type of explosive player like itself.
Speaker 6: That nagging injury, if it doesn't heal up, it could
Speaker 6: still be there and tend to linger like I still
Speaker 6: get even when my quad was hell. I did rehab
Speaker 6: and stuff like that. If I didn't stre stretch enough
Speaker 6: or do or hydrated enough like all that plays a
Speaker 6: component in it. So it's a lot longer.
Speaker 5: I've had a thigh bruise before. I've never had anything
Speaker 5: like that, and I know, you know us taking the
Speaker 5: paths out. Yeah, so I got a face mask to
Speaker 5: the thigh one. And let me tell you something that
Speaker 5: that it took weeks for it to heel. First of all,
Speaker 5: the knot that comes in there and the bruised. It
Speaker 5: stays in there. Man, it's it's it's a lot of pain.
Speaker 5: But to have some type of surgery go through that
Speaker 5: thing and tear it up and you can.
Speaker 6: Fight, you can fight through it. You get p RP
Speaker 6: shots and all that. So even that's still that is
Speaker 6: a lingering. It's like an ankle quitting bet.
Speaker 4: Online.
Speaker 3: They've got their their updating the NFL Awards, So going
Speaker 3: into this week for the m v P, Baker Mayfield
Speaker 3: is now the new favorite, going from eight to one
Speaker 3: to two to one.
Speaker 4: Patrick Mahomes is in second, while Josh Allen goes to third.
Speaker 6: What what.
Speaker 7: I feel like he gets Maybe I'm, you know, reading
Speaker 7: too much into this, but I feel like he gets
Speaker 7: a lot of big time past man.
Speaker 6: I respect I respect Josh Allen being on that list
Speaker 6: more than Patrick Mahons on that list right now. Like
Speaker 6: I don't. I'm just saying as far as a winning
Speaker 6: team doing this, Like yes, pat Dree Mahomes is who
Speaker 6: he is, they the only thing they have over there
Speaker 6: with the Chiefs. But it's like, come on, brother, you
Speaker 6: talking about top three right now, Like you didn't say
Speaker 6: there's so many other people right now? That's changing.
Speaker 4: They like Dak it's just falling under Joe Burrow like
Speaker 4: last year. Well you want the list, okay, I want
Speaker 4: I want the list.
Speaker 6: Riking owt for three.
Speaker 3: Okay, Baker Mayfield, Patrick Mahomes two, Josh Allen three, followed
Speaker 3: by Drake may Jordan Love, Jared Goff, Matthew Stafford, Daniel Jones,
Speaker 3: Justin Herbert, Sam Darnold Yet and what I'm talking about
Speaker 3: and tied for eleventh with Aaron Rodgers is Dak Prescott
Speaker 3: a fifty to one along with Jaylen Daniels and Lamar
Speaker 3: Jackson are number one.
Speaker 5: Been in Dallas too long? Maybe maybe I don't know
Speaker 5: football no more. Maybe maybe my view is I'm getting
Speaker 5: used to seeing water down and no that boy is bawling, gentlemen.
Speaker 4: It's it's it's early.
Speaker 6: I'm just it's early.
Speaker 4: This this is what it is, all right.
Speaker 3: For Defensive Player of the Year, Nick Benito is the
Speaker 3: new favorite, followed by eight eight. Hudginson went from first
Speaker 3: to third. Brian Burns has gone from forty to one
Speaker 3: to twenty to one. Trey Hendrickson was fifty to one.
Speaker 3: He's dropped down all the way to one hundred and one.
Speaker 3: And Fred Warner is now off the board. Yeah, Fred
Speaker 3: Warner off the board. So your top four candidates for
Speaker 3: Defensive Player of the Year Nick Benito, followed by Michael
Speaker 3: Parsons at three to one, eight Hutchinson, Miles Garrett then
Speaker 3: of course following him as t J. Watt All right
Speaker 3: up there. Coach of the Year Shane stikeen is the favorite.
Speaker 3: Liam Cohen, Your boy has gone from first drop down
Speaker 3: to third?
Speaker 4: What keep his name out? John Mount?
Speaker 5: Who is he coaches?
Speaker 4: Give his name? Who was the first person who Shane
Speaker 4: stike is a coach?
Speaker 3: Coach Brian day Ball went from one hundred to one
Speaker 3: to twenty eight to one. Raheem Morris is up big
Speaker 3: time from seventy five to one to thirty three to one.
Speaker 4: Day Boughton went up, Yeah boy, Ye scatteratimboy and.
Speaker 5: Dark Mill.
Speaker 3: Eric Aaron Glenn's falling from two hundred and one to
Speaker 3: seven hundred and fifty to one.
Speaker 4: Who was that Aaron? He's falling down?
Speaker 3: Offensive Rookie of the Year Jackson Dart is a new favorite,
Speaker 3: passing a Mecca Obuka and but Nelly scamp Camp'scataboo went
Speaker 3: from thirty three to one to nine to one.
Speaker 4: Yeah, waves, man, what are we doing just because you
Speaker 4: could do a back lip? Me do some way anything?
Speaker 4: Come on, man, and Mecca ba is going off this year.
Speaker 6: But you also got to remember the market. I told
Speaker 6: you what I'll be saying. That market does not Raizy
Speaker 6: factor into market.
Speaker 5: Defense in New York.
Speaker 3: Wow, defensive player, yes, default so Defensive Player of the
Speaker 3: Year Abdual Carter the Giants has remains a favorite, but
Speaker 3: Jeha Campbell is a close second. Offensive Player of the
Speaker 3: Year Jonathan Taylor is now the favorite. Pooka Nikoua goes
Speaker 3: from first drops down to fourth, Jackson Smith and Jigma
Speaker 3: goes from sixteenth to nine to two odds, Josh Jacob
Speaker 3: sixty six to one to thirty three to one, and
Speaker 3: Saquon Barkley falling from thirty three to one to fifty
Speaker 3: to one. Your comeback Player of the Year in first
Speaker 3: place right now according to bet Online is Dak Prescott
Speaker 3: five to two odds, followed by Christian McCaffrey, Aiden Hutchinson
Speaker 3: and Daniel Jones.
Speaker 4: So there's going to be the guy. I think his
Speaker 4: competition is gonna be.
Speaker 5: Jones, Damiel Jones. Wait, what's the award again.
Speaker 4: Come back player.
Speaker 5: You can come back from anything, come back from injury, contract, from.
Speaker 4: Just getting bench. You have it being there. I thought
Speaker 4: it was injured. I thought you had I thought get injured.
Speaker 4: He wasn't even playing.
Speaker 5: Right now they put it he was back. Remember he
Speaker 5: went from starting at fourth stream in Minnesota.
Speaker 6: I think I thought that was the injury award. My bet.
Speaker 4: That Dak Prescott is up for that.
Speaker 3: But you're offen to play you by the way, right now,
Speaker 3: Jonathan Taylor uh is in the lead, followed by.
Speaker 4: B John Robinson's cool. By the way, he's he's number two.
Speaker 3: Then Smack Jackson Smith and Jagba Pooking the coopl Christian
Speaker 3: McCaffrey and my ros Saint Brown and there are no
Speaker 3: cowboys on it.
Speaker 6: I just can't this guy to being bro first, don't respects.
Speaker 6: He's been doing his thing consistently. Now Jackson Dark, he
Speaker 6: just got in the mix, like what are we talking about?
Speaker 4: Former giant? Thank you?
Speaker 6: Thinking here we go.
Speaker 4: This is crazy.
Speaker 6: Everybody's talking about him and he's making powerful running backs
Speaker 6: popular again, did he?
Speaker 5: He ain't got caught yet, Bro ain't exactly because he's
Speaker 5: been delivering. It's going over a hundred yours.
Speaker 4: Yet in the game, that's what I was, and I'm
Speaker 4: just like, how.
Speaker 3: You hey man, Let's let's trade carry the flag. He
Speaker 3: dropped his JJ McCarthy flag.
Speaker 6: Injured that it was.
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