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Speaker 1: of OTAs, day number nine going down not far from

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Speaker 1: of traits. They went big, and they did that in

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Speaker 1: free agency. To fa Obada is a huge dude. Uh,

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Speaker 1: Forrest lamp is an NFL guard at his body, I

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Speaker 1: mean that guy's Yeah. So they got some guys. They're

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Speaker 1: good coming off the bus, right game, I am, I've

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Speaker 1: We've talked about it a ton. I can't get over it.

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Speaker 1: All Right, guys, when we get off the bus, here's

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Speaker 1: the order, right, Spencer Brown, Right, Tommy Doyle, Greg Russo,

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Speaker 1: Greg Russo, f a Obada Yeah, anybody else over six five? Ye?

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Speaker 1: Line up? Coomaro, come on down. Daryl Williams, you're you're

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Speaker 1: you're six yeah yeah, six five? You know Star your

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Speaker 1: next yeah? I mean man right, Isaiah right? Wait wait

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Speaker 1: till the last Yeah, I think Mackenzie just stay still,

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Speaker 1: just sit jump on Star's best Yeah, right, get in

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Speaker 1: Star's luggage. But that's day I really believe. And I

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Speaker 1: don't I don't know how this stuff works, but I'm

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Speaker 1: saying that. You can just picture and I bet it happened,

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Speaker 1: Brandon and Sean sitting there looking at each other, going,

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Speaker 1: we need we need to look we need to look

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Speaker 1: like an old fashioned NFC team. We need to get

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Speaker 1: some big dudes. We need guys, We need guys with

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Speaker 1: traits in this. But why do you think they came

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Speaker 1: to that conclusion. Well, I think twenty eighteen had a

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Speaker 1: lot to do with it. Yeah, got pushed around up front.

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Speaker 1: They got pushed around on both sides of the ball

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Speaker 1: up front, and they were not standing for that. The

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Speaker 1: guys they brought in last year, like Vernon Butler, Mario Addison,

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Speaker 1: Quentin Jefferson, Epinezza, I mean Epinesza was big when they

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Speaker 1: drafted him. They asked him to drop a little weight

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Speaker 1: and they got out of you know, and now he

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Speaker 1: couldn't put it back on. He got caught being light.

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Speaker 1: I think even Boogie's deceptively big. He's too eighty. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so I think and with and plus do don't think

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Speaker 1: about this brownie. They got white. They got skill guys.

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Speaker 1: I mean their neck deep and wide outs now really

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Speaker 1: good ones and with some guys with some potential in

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Speaker 1: the back end that are gonna develop. If they develop, yeah,

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Speaker 1: they won't even have to get a free agent after.

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Speaker 1: You know. So if if Hodgens comes along, if Kumo

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Speaker 1: comes along, if Duke Williams continues to get better, all

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Speaker 1: these guys, Emmanuel Sanders may be a wash when he

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Speaker 1: leaves after one year, yeah, because he's probably a one

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Speaker 1: and right and good and you know, unless he lights

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Speaker 1: it and blessed his hard good good for him. But

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Speaker 1: that's you know, they're set at skilled positions. So I think,

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Speaker 1: you know, we gotta get some guys in here. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna first of a, we're gonna protect Josh and Be.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna unprotect their quarterback. We're gonna get our guys

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Speaker 1: to the quart protect the right back. So you're gonna say,

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Speaker 1: knock people off the ball. But then you flipped it

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Speaker 1: to the other side and said, oh, we're gonna unprotect there.

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Speaker 1: I think I think they I can just picture being

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Speaker 1: and McDermott sitting there going, man, we are let's make us.

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Speaker 1: Let's just you can see him putting a little knife

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Speaker 1: nick in their palms and blood brothers saying, we are

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Speaker 1: not gonna get beat up front ever again. Blood right

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Speaker 1: a blood, we are not getting beat up front ever again.

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Speaker 1: Let's make a pact. Right. So yeah, because it certainly

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Speaker 1: looks like that with the draft that they had and

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Speaker 1: the free agents they signed, and it's just behemoth humans. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he said, let's let's just manhandle some people. Yeah. And

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Speaker 1: I'll say this, look in their division, the Jets have

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Speaker 1: got a really nice defensive front. For me, the Patriots,

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Speaker 1: they look for so many traits that are not those traits,

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Speaker 1: you know, the smart guys, the unselfish guys. He drafts

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Speaker 1: big people. I mean he brings in big people. I

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Speaker 1: mean they play a three four predominantly, So it is Miami.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna have bigger bodies up front. I think you

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Speaker 1: know they're looking at those guys going, we're gonna we

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Speaker 1: gotta man handle some people for a change, you know,

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Speaker 1: And I gives him. This gives them the ability to

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Speaker 1: put guys out there who may be capable of it.

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Speaker 1: I like the goal line offense, the size you can

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Speaker 1: throw out there for goal line. I mean, man, And

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Speaker 1: I'll say this. I said it the other day Brad

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Speaker 1: day Ball that the Bill's red zone offense last year

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Speaker 1: was spectacular. Yeah, I loved it. I absolutely loved it

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Speaker 1: because day Ball was creative. Josh is a unicorn down. Yes,

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Speaker 1: he's the He's the ultimate way. He's the great equalize,

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Speaker 1: the great changeup guy because he can run it in

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Speaker 1: or throw it and he's got big weapons. And day

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Speaker 1: Ball was absolutely creative. He did a couple of things

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Speaker 1: last year I'd never seen anybody do and I'll see

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Speaker 1: it and maybe I'll go back and look at it.

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Speaker 1: But it was in the New England Monday night game

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Speaker 1: and it was It was fascinating what he did, and

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Speaker 1: Josh gave him the ability to do it. Only Josh

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Speaker 1: could or a player like Josh could have done this.

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Speaker 1: And I just thought Dave Ball was just, oh, look

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Speaker 1: at that's sharp and creative and he did something I've

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Speaker 1: never seen anybody do. And what happened was they got

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Speaker 1: down close. And the problem with red zone is before

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Speaker 1: we go to break here, the problem with red zone

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Speaker 1: offense is do you run out of space? Right? You

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Speaker 1: can't take the top off a defense. The back end

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Speaker 1: line does that. It keeps the lid on. So Josh

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Speaker 1: takes this snap and just retreats and just goes back

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Speaker 1: away from the line of scrimmage. And what that does

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Speaker 1: is that you know they're they're chasing him. You know

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Speaker 1: they're coming back after him. There's a gap, but there's

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Speaker 1: space created, and obviously some of the space is a

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Speaker 1: little bit of us behind the line of scrimmage, but

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Speaker 1: you're down close anyway. So day Ball has Josh retreat

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Speaker 1: from the line of scrimmage. He takes the lid off

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Speaker 1: the defense from the bottom from the line of scrimmage

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Speaker 1: back and he gives up that space. No one Josh's

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Speaker 1: got the gun to throw it to the back of

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Speaker 1: the end zone from wherever he's standing in this play.

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Speaker 1: So I and it was. It was odd when you

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Speaker 1: saw it. And I know some of the defenders were like, going,

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Speaker 1: whoa should we chase him? Their lights are going too

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Speaker 1: danger They couldn't figure it out. And it was and

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Speaker 1: and you know, ironically, the play did. I don't think

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Speaker 1: the play worked when they did it. It got knocked

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Speaker 1: down or something. But I was like, oh, it was

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Speaker 1: It blew my mind. I'd never seen anybody look for

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Speaker 1: to see if they turned to that again at some

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Speaker 1: point in time, I'm sure they will. That's that right there,

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Speaker 1: especially against like a top five red zone defense, which

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Speaker 1: New England usually is. That's thinking outside the box though,

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Speaker 1: that's and using the guys you got to their advanced advenage'.

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Speaker 1: That's what being an NFL coordinator's all about. It's that,

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Speaker 1: and I thought that was just absolutely brilliant. Third hour

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Speaker 1: of the show. Today we have pro football focuses Ben Lindsay,

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Speaker 1: who had some good things to write about concerning the

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Speaker 1: Bills defensive backs, their secondary and where they might rank

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Speaker 1: going into twenty twenty one. We'll talk to him in

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Speaker 1: the third hour of the show, but in the meantime,

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Speaker 1: it's you and the phone calls and the comments on

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Speaker 1: the tweet sheet. What builds position group as you most

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Speaker 1: encouraged heading into the twenty twenty one season eight three,

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Speaker 1: five fifty one eighty eight five fifty two, five fifty

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Speaker 1: give us a call, let us know what you think,

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Speaker 1: or hit us up on the tweet sheet. Steve and

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Speaker 1: I back in a second here on one Bills Live

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Speaker 1: presented by collid to Health. It's Buffalo Bills Radio one,

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Speaker 1: Bills Live, Chris Brown, Steve Task, You're with you here

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Speaker 1: on eight up until three o'clock third hour. The program

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Speaker 1: will have Ben Lindsay from Pro Football Focus joining us

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Speaker 1: to talk about some of the secondary rankings that he

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Speaker 1: gave the Bills. He had him in the top five,

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Speaker 1: so we'll talk to him about that among some of

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Speaker 1: the other things as we get set for the twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty one season. We are asking you, though at eight

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Speaker 1: oh three oh five fifty one eight eight five fifty

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Speaker 1: two five fifty, what Bills position group has you most

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Speaker 1: encouraged heading into this season? And we are going to

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Speaker 1: go to the tweet sheet now, which has brought to

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Speaker 1: you as always by Corrigan Moving Systems, the official equipment

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Speaker 1: moving company of the Buffalo Bills, and Tiffany leading us

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Speaker 1: off today says, hands down, it's our quarterback group. We

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Speaker 1: all know Josh as an elite player at perennial MVP

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Speaker 1: candidate as he heads into the prime of his career.

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Speaker 1: In my opinion, signing Mitchell Trubisky was a savvy under

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Speaker 1: the radar edition. He may be better than the rest

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Speaker 1: of the QBS starting in the AFC East this season.

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Speaker 1: I hadn't thought about that thing about the AFC starting

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks and how Trubisky would fit in with him. Zach Wilson,

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Speaker 1: tuh yeah, Mac Jones and Cam I would take I

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Speaker 1: would take Mitchell Trubisky over all of those you know what?

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Speaker 1: Talk about that? How crazy is that? Had not the

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Speaker 1: Bills have the two best quarterbacks in the AFC. Just

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Speaker 1: think about that. Yeah, I get okay, all right, yeah,

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Speaker 1: but let me can you say otherwise? None of those

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Speaker 1: guys completed sixty eight percent of their passes last year. Wow,

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Speaker 1: that's big. It's a good tweet by Tiffic. Great Tiffany

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Speaker 1: coming through and encouraged by the quarterback position. Because here's

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Speaker 1: the thing, because Josh is now perennially MVP. Might be

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Speaker 1: a step ahead of it, because he's not yet. If

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Speaker 1: he does it this year, then he is perennially every year.

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Speaker 1: But he's done it one year. I'm just gonna say this,

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Speaker 1: but yes, we all look at Josh six five, two

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Speaker 1: hundred forty pound man, child of a human, and I

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Speaker 1: think he's invincible. Right. There were a couple of times

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Speaker 1: last year where remember that time he got twisted into

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Speaker 1: the ground his and he got all twisted up in

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Speaker 1: an ugly way, and we're like ogs. And you know

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Speaker 1: what I mean, not like we didn't have faith in

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Speaker 1: Matt Barkley to kind of hold the fort down. Should

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Speaker 1: God forbidding miss a game or two? Yeah right, I

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00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:23,600
Speaker 1: mean he's the reason the offense is as diversified as

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Speaker 1: it is, and that Brian Dabele can be so creative.

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Speaker 1: But God forbid, something happens to Josh and you got

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Speaker 1: to go two games without him. Mitchell Drubisky is suddenly

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Speaker 1: a security blanket that I think you stop and realize, well, dang,

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Speaker 1: we never had that before. Yeah, and now you do.

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Speaker 1: I mean this is a backup quarterback of Frank Reich proportions. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think you can make that argument. Frank win a

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Speaker 1: lot of games from the backup, Yeah, up in playoff games. No.

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Speaker 1: Less Um, this is pretty close to that. We're talking

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Speaker 1: about the number two. We're talking about a first round

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Speaker 1: draft choice. Yeah, and I know there are missus at

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Speaker 1: quarterback in the NFL. In the first round at the

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Speaker 1: quarterback position, I think history shows it's a fifty fifty proposition.

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Speaker 1: But this guy played good football last year. Maybe not

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Speaker 1: great football, but good football. And I gotta tell you,

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Speaker 1: and we've talked about this, Steve, anybody that comes out

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Speaker 1: of Chicago with fifty games under their belt, eight games

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Speaker 1: above five hundred, that's a virtual miracle. Yeah, that's where

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Speaker 1: and even old quarterbacks in Chicago say Chicago's where you

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks go to die. And he had a winning record

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Speaker 1: with the Bears. Yeah, that's I had not thought about that.

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Speaker 1: I might go there now, Cam Newton, Mac mac Jones,

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Speaker 1: I mean he's better than mac Jones right now because

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Speaker 1: of just his experience. Yeah, same thing with Zach Wilson

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Speaker 1: and Tuah, Yeah, you know, Cam is I mean think

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Speaker 1: about this, would game any of those teams for this season,

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Speaker 1: if they you know, if they want, would they would

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Speaker 1: they put Trubisky on the field before they put Zach

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Speaker 1: Wilson Where they put Trubisky on ahead of two? Well,

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Speaker 1: you're talking about a different agenda than right, exactly the

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Speaker 1: agenda Zach Wilson's. You know, in a in a quarterback competition,

639
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Speaker 1: would they if it's tied, it's going to Zach Wilson,

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Speaker 1: isn't it? Oh sure, because the second that the agenda

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Speaker 1: was off the table, say for instance, if Mitch Trubisky

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Speaker 1: was if you got a head coach and a win

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Speaker 1: now mode, he's putting Mitchell Trubisky on right. If you're

644
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Speaker 1: in a win now mode, he's putting Mitchell Trubisky on

645
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Speaker 1: the field. That's he that's huge. That's which makes you

646
00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:42,399
Speaker 1: wonder what the hell New England was doing. I mean,

647
00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:44,799
Speaker 1: would you rather have a guy that completed sixty eight

648
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Speaker 1: percent of his passes last year or somebody who's bounced

649
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Speaker 1: passing ten. Mister Bisky has got his issues, no question

650
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Speaker 1: about it. There are things he missed, all that stuff.

651
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Speaker 1: But I'm telling you, you gotta think you and I'll

652
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Speaker 1: say this, most NFL coaches think they can coach a

653
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Speaker 1: guy up, coach him up better than the other guy.

654
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Speaker 1: And that includes Josh McDaniels and Brian day Bole, all

655
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:13,400
Speaker 1: those guys, all these offensive corners will tell you, I

656
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Speaker 1: think I can get more out of Mitch Rubisky. So

657
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Speaker 1: I don't know what Josh McDaniels is doing in New

658
00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:19,960
Speaker 1: England saying why why don't we sign Mitch Drubisky? What

659
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Speaker 1: are we doing with And let me tell you something

660
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Speaker 1: with Cam Newton then, after what we saw from Cam

661
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Speaker 1: last year, there's no way. I don't know how you

662
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Speaker 1: go back to the well with him. I really don't.

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Speaker 1: We paid mister Drubisky less than they're paying Cam Newton.

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Speaker 1: And look, I'll be the first to admit that the

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Speaker 1: big reason why Mitchell Trubisky's completion percentage was as high

666
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Speaker 1: as it was last year is because a lot of

667
00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:47,440
Speaker 1: his stuff is in that intermediate range. He didn't throw

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Speaker 1: deep a whole lot, but he's moving the offense, he's

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Speaker 1: staying on schedule. And if you can get that out

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Speaker 1: of a backup quarterback, if God forbid he's got to play,

671
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:01,240
Speaker 1: you can still win that and throwing the Steph Diggs,

672
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:05,360
Speaker 1: Cole Beasley, Gabriel Davis, and Emmanuel Sanders in Chicago, I

673
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:08,160
Speaker 1: mean he had some talent there. Alan Robinson is a very, very,

674
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Speaker 1: very good receiver. I mean he's a Pro Bowl caliber receiver.

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00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:13,120
Speaker 1: I don't think there's any question about that. Jimmy Graham

676
00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:14,880
Speaker 1: isn't what he used to be, but he's still a

677
00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:18,160
Speaker 1: giant target helps you in the red zone. So he

678
00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:25,200
Speaker 1: wasn't devoid of talent per se. But guy in a

679
00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:28,879
Speaker 1: good season, sixty seven percent completion goes six and three

680
00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:34,880
Speaker 1: and nine starts, sixteen touchdowns, eight picks, only got sacked

681
00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:39,040
Speaker 1: eighteen times, which speaks to his escapability ninety three point

682
00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:48,200
Speaker 1: five passer rating. I mean, that's your backup, that's your backup. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So look, I don't know that there are rules that

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Speaker 1: we're applying to. Our question today, which for those of

685
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Speaker 1: you just joining us, is what Bill's position group has

686
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Speaker 1: you most encouraged heading into this season. This is purely

687
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Speaker 1: based on a contingency plan that you hope you never

688
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Speaker 1: have to turn to. Well, but I think if you

689
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Speaker 1: feel that that, if that does come to pass, I

690
00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:13,879
Speaker 1: think being encouraged about your situation in comparison to last

691
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:17,160
Speaker 1: year or the year before, it's decidedly better with Traubisky.

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Speaker 1: While your depth has got to be a part of

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Speaker 1: the process, you know, part of the evaluation process of

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Speaker 1: these position groups, and that's that's pretty quality depth. Given

695
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Speaker 1: what you're playing against in the division, it's starting quality depth.

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Speaker 1: You could argue, Yeah, I'm totally there. Wow, So I

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Speaker 1: might have been Tiffany's best tweet ever. Certainly I think

698
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Speaker 1: it's about better because you and I were out to

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00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:47,520
Speaker 1: lunch on even thinking about well, far be it from

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Speaker 1: us to say we're perfect. We know we're not true though,

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00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:54,080
Speaker 1: but that is a different way to look at it,

702
00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:56,200
Speaker 1: because because your position group are, you're encouraged by and

703
00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:58,440
Speaker 1: nobody's thinking about the backup. You got the unicorn at

704
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Speaker 1: the top. I mean, Josh is the guy at the time.

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Speaker 1: He's better than anybody in the division, maybe as good

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Speaker 1: as anybody in the conference. Certainly he's an elite guy.

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00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:09,720
Speaker 1: And so that starts with the you know, the strength

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Speaker 1: of the position. But then to have a guy like

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Speaker 1: Trubisky standing they're waiting to come in, that's pretty big.

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Speaker 1: That's yeah, that is under the radar, and I am

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Speaker 1: unquestionably encouraged by it. Yeah, no question, they are better

712
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Speaker 1: at QB two this year than they've been in a

713
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Speaker 1: very very very long time. Yeah, I mean I said,

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Speaker 1: I think it's I mean, we'll wait and see, but

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Speaker 1: based on his resume coming in the door, I think

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Speaker 1: you can at least make the argument might be your

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Speaker 1: best backup since Frank Reich in terms of being able

718
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Speaker 1: to win with the guy. I mean, we've had a

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Speaker 1: slew of quarterback schmazzles here, you know, with people like

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Speaker 1: Kelly Holcombe and you know, sure, Ryan Fitzpatrick and others

721
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Speaker 1: like that Trubisky's pedigree coming in the door is better

722
00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:03,880
Speaker 1: than all of them. Yeah, so nothing but be encouraged

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Speaker 1: by the quarterback position. So good on Tiffany for helping

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Speaker 1: us out with that. We have to take a break.

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Speaker 1: We will get to more of your thoughts on the

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Speaker 1: tweet sheet when we return. We also have something to

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Speaker 1: share with you when we come back that deals with,

728
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Speaker 1: let's just say, over confidence, when confidence trump's ignorance and

729
00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:29,760
Speaker 1: how foolish one can look when that happens. We'll explain

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Speaker 1: when we return. Here on One Bill's Live, presented by

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Speaker 1: Collata Health, It's Buffalo Bill's Radio. So we wanted to

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Speaker 1: discuss something that we see every so often on social media.

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Speaker 1: Mostly on social media, but occasionally on television programs. You'll

734
00:41:57,360 --> 00:42:02,760
Speaker 1: see this, particularly reality television and others, but not often

735
00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:10,040
Speaker 1: on a game show. And this is like to decide

736
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Speaker 1: the game in family feud. The question is one that

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00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:20,520
Speaker 1: I'm confident of our population could answer correctly, although although

738
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Speaker 1: age could be an issue, as will explain later. But

739
00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:30,560
Speaker 1: we see this from time to time. People are so

740
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:34,960
Speaker 1: sure they know the answer to something they put a

741
00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:39,240
Speaker 1: little embellishment on their answer. Maybe they'll dance around, there'll

742
00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:43,480
Speaker 1: be a certain voice inflection that exudes confidence. That's what

743
00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:46,600
Speaker 1: makes it the most delicious. And when they are patently wrong,

744
00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:50,520
Speaker 1: everybody else soaks up in the enjoyment of it all.

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00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:55,759
Speaker 1: So in the interest of doing that, here is a

746
00:42:56,440 --> 00:43:01,640
Speaker 1: family feud square off for a tie to win the

747
00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:07,400
Speaker 1: game and all the money, and we'll just let the

748
00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:09,959
Speaker 1: lovely folks at Family Feud take it away from here.

749
00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:15,040
Speaker 1: There's one question, only one answer. Whoever gets it, You're

750
00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:18,239
Speaker 1: playing for ten thousand dollars. That's it. Whoever guesses this

751
00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:22,000
Speaker 1: wins the game. Here we go name Popeye's favorite food

752
00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:45,799
Speaker 1: showman chicken, spinach, cherry. That's a one chicken, not just

753
00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:50,440
Speaker 1: chicken chicken. And she's dancing around like I got it,

754
00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:52,480
Speaker 1: and her teammates look at her like and they're like,

755
00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:56,600
Speaker 1: are you kidding me? Yeah, two of her two of

756
00:43:56,600 --> 00:43:59,640
Speaker 1: her fellow team members had their hands on their head,

757
00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:04,440
Speaker 1: like what did she just say? Which we know why

758
00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:08,840
Speaker 1: she said it, but and that's where you might be

759
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:11,600
Speaker 1: able to say, Okay, if you've got a millennial or

760
00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:16,400
Speaker 1: a gen zer, they probably never saw pop the Popeye cartoons,

761
00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:19,880
Speaker 1: you know, from a long time ago, or even the

762
00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:23,640
Speaker 1: Popeye movie with Robin Williams, which was I think a

763
00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:30,640
Speaker 1: movie in the early eighties, mid eighties somewhere that is unbelievable. Yeah,

764
00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:35,040
Speaker 1: but man, oh man, was she confident that she has

765
00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:37,400
Speaker 1: that answer? She nailed and it was a you know,

766
00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:39,359
Speaker 1: it's one answer on the board, you know, there's only

767
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:47,960
Speaker 1: one answer. It's a tiebreaker. Yeah, being it's like the

768
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:52,560
Speaker 1: buzzer you get on one Bill's lights, Steven, And it

769
00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:56,120
Speaker 1: came just as quick as well. And it's amazing that

770
00:44:56,239 --> 00:44:58,360
Speaker 1: the best part about for all of us when she's

771
00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:02,319
Speaker 1: so sure yeah, and then her she turns around, She's

772
00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:04,680
Speaker 1: all proud of herself. She's like, hey, look, I won

773
00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:08,160
Speaker 1: the game for us. And then she looks at her

774
00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:11,360
Speaker 1: team and they're like what. And then she's like, oh,

775
00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:13,360
Speaker 1: what what do you mean? That's not the right answer.

776
00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:16,319
Speaker 1: She goes, how come it's not right? And then she's

777
00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:18,160
Speaker 1: then she doesn't know what to do at that point,

778
00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:22,080
Speaker 1: and then she just feels like a complete fool. Yeah. Yes,

779
00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:25,880
Speaker 1: so there's the buzzer. He knows so well. How about

780
00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:27,719
Speaker 1: the guy he got beat to the button? He's stand

781
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:31,120
Speaker 1: there and he she is chicken. He's like going, yeah,

782
00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:35,520
Speaker 1: he could barely contain himself. I'll happily answer Spinach when

783
00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:39,880
Speaker 1: it's my turn, because the guy running the game show,

784
00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:43,560
Speaker 1: it's not um Steve Harvey, It's it's this is it's

785
00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:47,360
Speaker 1: another iteration, this is family Feud Canada. Yeah, And the

786
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:49,840
Speaker 1: guy drops his head on the podium. He can't believe,

787
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:55,400
Speaker 1: she can not believe. There you go. That's when confidence

788
00:45:55,480 --> 00:46:02,719
Speaker 1: Trump's ignorance that it really wasn't unbelievable moment unbelievable. How

789
00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:04,400
Speaker 1: do you do that? How do you get to that? Oh?

790
00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:07,439
Speaker 1: I guess we all saw it. I think I think

791
00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:10,239
Speaker 1: we've all probably fallen into that trap once you're so

792
00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:12,640
Speaker 1: sure you've got it right, and maybe you misinterpret the

793
00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:15,960
Speaker 1: question to begin with. I mean, there really isn't a

794
00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:20,040
Speaker 1: lot of room for misinterpretation here, But I mean, I

795
00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:26,319
Speaker 1: guess she has clearly seen more advertisement advertisements for that

796
00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:32,799
Speaker 1: particular restaurant chain than she has Popeye cartoons where he's

797
00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:35,480
Speaker 1: you know, I'm strong to the finish because I eats me, Spinach,

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00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:41,000
Speaker 1: I'm Popeye the sailor. That guy, yeah, whose girlfriend is

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Speaker 1: olive oil. That's well, you know, olive oil would have

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00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:47,400
Speaker 1: been a better answer than chicken, right, that's what I

801
00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:49,160
Speaker 1: thought she was gonna happen. I thought was I didn't.

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00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:52,160
Speaker 1: I never, I never even got to chicken. Yeah, I

803
00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:54,959
Speaker 1: was like, it wasn't because I got what was gonna

804
00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:57,360
Speaker 1: happen in this right, because it's like, you know, and

805
00:46:57,440 --> 00:47:00,320
Speaker 1: I thought, well, what's she gonna answer? I gotta be

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00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:03,839
Speaker 1: olive oil. At least it's a foot, because I thought

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Speaker 1: it would be, you know, the kind of the double

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00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:08,040
Speaker 1: and tondre kind of thing, you know, and that's what

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00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:12,959
Speaker 1: social media she says chicken. I was like what. At first,

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00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:17,719
Speaker 1: I was like, chit what I oh, yeah, the restaurant.

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Speaker 1: What put it over the top for me is the

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Speaker 1: little shoulder shimmy that she's doing it because it was

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Speaker 1: the answer she thinks. She was about, even we have won,

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Speaker 1: let's just wait for the name plate to flip over

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Speaker 1: and then we could celebrate. She turned around to her

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Speaker 1: team like they were gonna like she was gonna be

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Speaker 1: the conquering hero, right, like check out, come on, come on,

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00:47:35,120 --> 00:47:38,880
Speaker 1: gad to me bringing in load mirror looking at her

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Speaker 1: like she's yesterday's tuna. Oh brother, oh my god, I

820
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Speaker 1: think I do. Like the host of the show's reaction,

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Speaker 1: Best of all though, like he just completely collapses. He

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Speaker 1: can't believe he's he's he's just he's blown away. If

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Speaker 1: you gave him a hundred chances to guess what she

824
00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:03,080
Speaker 1: was gonna say, he wouldn't have guessed that. He would

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00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:09,680
Speaker 1: not have And oh, my gosh, no, unbelievable spinach, unbelievable.

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Speaker 1: And here here endeth the lesson, you know what I mean? Like,

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Speaker 1: let this be a lesson to us all never to

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Speaker 1: gloat and what we believe to be snatching defeat from

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Speaker 1: the jaws of victory. Yes, that was that was borderline epic.

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Speaker 1: All right, we are going to take a break here

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Speaker 1: when we return your phone calls at eight three five

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Speaker 1: fifty one eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty.

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Speaker 1: What Bills position group has you most encouraged heading into

834
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Speaker 1: this season? Already had a good first discussion about quarterback

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Speaker 1: with the addition of Mitchell Trubisky. What position group do

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Speaker 1: you think it is that we should be most encouraged

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Speaker 1: by heading in to the twenty twenty one season for

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Speaker 1: the Bills eight three five fifty one eighty eight five

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Speaker 1: fifty two, five fifty or give us a comment on

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Speaker 1: the tweet sheet at one Bill's Live. Steve and I

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Speaker 1: back for our number two here next on one Bills

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Speaker 1: Live presented by Collid to Health, It's Buffalo Bills Radio.

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Speaker 1: At a Steve Tasker who has been all her fields.

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Speaker 1: Kind of unique. He was kind of a dual role

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Speaker 1: player for you, Steve, Steve a blimp. We're not even

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00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:41,799
Speaker 1: in the strato beere of normalcy. Our number two here

847
00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:44,640
Speaker 1: on a Thursday Chris Brown Steve Tasker with you, asking

848
00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:48,680
Speaker 1: you which Bills position group has you most encouraged ending

849
00:49:48,680 --> 00:49:51,560
Speaker 1: into the twenty twenty one season. I think we can

850
00:49:51,640 --> 00:49:54,160
Speaker 1: agree that there have been upgrades at certain places up

851
00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:58,520
Speaker 1: and down the roster. What as you most encouraged in

852
00:49:58,680 --> 00:50:00,480
Speaker 1: terms of the position group that you you think could

853
00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:04,120
Speaker 1: take a sizeable step forward? Already had a good answer

854
00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:06,720
Speaker 1: from Tiffany. She thinks the quarterback position with the addition

855
00:50:06,760 --> 00:50:09,919
Speaker 1: of Mitchell Trubisky, which Steve and I had not thought

856
00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:11,520
Speaker 1: of it, but it's a good one. Two quarterbacks in

857
00:50:11,600 --> 00:50:16,560
Speaker 1: the division. Really, I mean it's when you stop and think, yeah,

858
00:50:16,600 --> 00:50:23,520
Speaker 1: it's true. From one R to tease wide receivers the

859
00:50:23,719 --> 00:50:26,520
Speaker 1: Bills top to bottom, having my opinion, the best widel

860
00:50:26,560 --> 00:50:30,719
Speaker 1: group in the NFL. Diggs, Beasley, Sanders, and Davis are

861
00:50:30,760 --> 00:50:34,719
Speaker 1: all top fifty production capable. Then you add on Hodgens,

862
00:50:35,120 --> 00:50:39,360
Speaker 1: who has amazing hands, and two speed guys in Stevenson

863
00:50:39,440 --> 00:50:45,960
Speaker 1: and Mackenzie. Oh, and there's still Kumero. It's a crowded room.

864
00:50:46,880 --> 00:50:50,800
Speaker 1: It's gonna be tough decisions to make. You've got coaching staff.

865
00:50:51,320 --> 00:50:54,560
Speaker 1: You got the top four Diggs, Beasley, Sanders, Davis, say

866
00:50:54,600 --> 00:50:57,480
Speaker 1: take three of the next. You got at least Mackenzie

867
00:50:57,680 --> 00:51:04,360
Speaker 1: or Stevenson. There's five six to be Hodgens, sevens Kumaro

868
00:51:04,440 --> 00:51:08,200
Speaker 1: for special teams. Yeah, I mean that's that's a pretty

869
00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:12,719
Speaker 1: good group, really good group. Yeah. And where it is

870
00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:15,560
Speaker 1: Hodgens is catching everything out there. That was his thing

871
00:51:15,640 --> 00:51:18,440
Speaker 1: coming out. He was a route runner, passket He's like

872
00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:23,879
Speaker 1: a young Emmanuel Sanders theoretically. Yeah, and just I don't

873
00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:26,320
Speaker 1: know if he has quite the suddenness of Emmanuel Sanders,

874
00:51:26,440 --> 00:51:30,400
Speaker 1: but he is a different kind of route runner. He

875
00:51:30,520 --> 00:51:34,279
Speaker 1: gets separation as a technician, not as a you know,

876
00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:38,600
Speaker 1: jitterbug guy like maybe Isaiah McKenzie. Hodges six three guy too. Yeah,

877
00:51:38,680 --> 00:51:41,920
Speaker 1: he's about six three two. He's a little leaner. It's

878
00:51:41,920 --> 00:51:46,000
Speaker 1: about two fifteen to ten somewhere in there. But I

879
00:51:46,080 --> 00:51:48,279
Speaker 1: know I've said it on the show before, but I

880
00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:50,640
Speaker 1: watched a lot of his college state at Oregon State.

881
00:51:51,680 --> 00:51:55,880
Speaker 1: I can't remember a college wide receiver that execute executes

882
00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:59,000
Speaker 1: double moons better than he does. Yeah, he's just he

883
00:51:59,239 --> 00:52:02,880
Speaker 1: loses people and he is not you know, quick as

884
00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:05,520
Speaker 1: a hiccup or stutter steps, shake you out of your

885
00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:08,719
Speaker 1: shoes kind of guarden. He just he just plants to

886
00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:11,879
Speaker 1: foot pivots and people are I don't know if he's

887
00:52:11,880 --> 00:52:14,360
Speaker 1: selling shoulder fakes really well, I don't know what it is,

888
00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:19,239
Speaker 1: but he gets people turned around. We've as a wide out.

889
00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:21,399
Speaker 1: I've told this, said this a lot, and you'll get

890
00:52:21,719 --> 00:52:24,600
Speaker 1: even guys Steph Diggs and even fast guys will tell

891
00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:26,879
Speaker 1: you it's not so much in the NFL about out

892
00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:29,200
Speaker 1: running guys. It's about fooling them. And your ability to

893
00:52:29,320 --> 00:52:31,680
Speaker 1: run routes is what gets you separation. You know, if

894
00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:32,880
Speaker 1: you can, if you can get to the top of

895
00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:35,759
Speaker 1: route and drop your and drop him off and leave

896
00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:39,000
Speaker 1: him there and just turn around and the balls there,

897
00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:42,359
Speaker 1: that separation's crucial, you know. And you get a route

898
00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:45,400
Speaker 1: runner like Digs or Emmanuel Sanders and these guys that

899
00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:49,040
Speaker 1: Literally they go out there and they just you know, leave,

900
00:52:49,080 --> 00:52:52,320
Speaker 1: people just drop him off and go, you know, and

901
00:52:52,440 --> 00:52:56,000
Speaker 1: the dB standing there and literally you're running a route

902
00:52:56,080 --> 00:52:58,640
Speaker 1: he did not think you were running, and he's committed

903
00:52:58,680 --> 00:53:02,279
Speaker 1: to another route. Yeah, that's that's what being wide receiver

904
00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:04,319
Speaker 1: in the NFL is all about, and it's it takes

905
00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:08,399
Speaker 1: patience and some practice. But these guys have got even

906
00:53:08,520 --> 00:53:10,800
Speaker 1: at younger ages. You're getting these guys coming into the

907
00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:15,359
Speaker 1: league now, like Hodgens and others like him, who are

908
00:53:15,480 --> 00:53:18,759
Speaker 1: getting so polished early in their careers. They used to

909
00:53:18,800 --> 00:53:21,400
Speaker 1: take guys a long time. Eric Moulds is till his

910
00:53:21,480 --> 00:53:23,520
Speaker 1: third season took a law. It takes a long time

911
00:53:24,200 --> 00:53:27,160
Speaker 1: because you know, they get they play football because they're

912
00:53:27,160 --> 00:53:30,440
Speaker 1: great athletes, and the athleticism and what carries them through

913
00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:32,279
Speaker 1: the next level and the next level, and it takes

914
00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:35,920
Speaker 1: and it takes them a while to realize that athleticism

915
00:53:36,080 --> 00:53:38,799
Speaker 1: is just is just a ticket to get in the door.

916
00:53:39,320 --> 00:53:40,680
Speaker 1: If you want to be great, you got to work

917
00:53:40,760 --> 00:53:43,120
Speaker 1: at it and hone your skills. And these some guys

918
00:53:43,239 --> 00:53:47,000
Speaker 1: start learning that in college and they get really good,

919
00:53:47,160 --> 00:53:48,880
Speaker 1: really quickly. They come in a lot more polished. I

920
00:53:48,960 --> 00:53:51,400
Speaker 1: see that at all positions across the board in the

921
00:53:51,480 --> 00:53:54,480
Speaker 1: NFL these days. We briefly touched on this yesterday, but

922
00:53:54,640 --> 00:53:59,280
Speaker 1: I think there is a real chance that they carry

923
00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:02,919
Speaker 1: seven receivers on the active roster. There is a chance,

924
00:54:03,160 --> 00:54:06,320
Speaker 1: a legitimate chance for that to happen. Obviously, you have

925
00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:10,680
Speaker 1: to subtract from somewhere else. But I mean, we look

926
00:54:10,719 --> 00:54:12,279
Speaker 1: at this group. You know what's crucial about You can

927
00:54:12,360 --> 00:54:14,560
Speaker 1: easily get there. You know what's crucial about that. What's

928
00:54:14,600 --> 00:54:17,399
Speaker 1: gonna come down to. You have seven wide outs, say eight,

929
00:54:17,520 --> 00:54:22,080
Speaker 1: maybe nine, offensive linemen. That's sixteen. Two quarterbacks on the

930
00:54:22,120 --> 00:54:26,080
Speaker 1: active roster, maybe three, that's probably two. That's eighteen, okay,

931
00:54:26,239 --> 00:54:31,120
Speaker 1: seventeen two eighteen. You were at sixteen for old line

932
00:54:31,120 --> 00:54:34,239
Speaker 1: and wide receivers, nine plus seven plus two quarterbacks. Now

933
00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:40,799
Speaker 1: say two tight ends, twenty two running backs twenty two.

934
00:54:43,320 --> 00:54:47,080
Speaker 1: Now you can add a tight end, okay, three, twenty three.

935
00:54:47,160 --> 00:54:50,400
Speaker 1: Now you've got that twenty three threshold. There, you got

936
00:54:50,440 --> 00:54:52,759
Speaker 1: all the offensive lineman, quarterbacks running mays All didn't need.

937
00:54:53,280 --> 00:54:55,160
Speaker 1: Now you got a factor in special team. Here's the

938
00:54:55,280 --> 00:54:57,920
Speaker 1: thing play well, some of those wide out, the bottom

939
00:54:58,000 --> 00:55:00,800
Speaker 1: wide out and the bottom tight end on Jones I

940
00:55:00,840 --> 00:55:04,399
Speaker 1: mean running back. Okay, running back. We have twenty four.

941
00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:09,120
Speaker 1: All right, there's twenty four. Now here's the thing I

942
00:55:09,200 --> 00:55:12,640
Speaker 1: could go. You could go two tight ends, and if

943
00:55:12,680 --> 00:55:14,920
Speaker 1: you get a third tight end from the defensive line,

944
00:55:15,680 --> 00:55:21,319
Speaker 1: like a Justin Zimmer, bat got Zimmer a tight end, now,

945
00:55:21,680 --> 00:55:25,719
Speaker 1: bam John's or one of the offensive linemen like like

946
00:55:26,800 --> 00:55:30,399
Speaker 1: Spencer Brown or whatever. But my point isn't about isn't

947
00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:33,759
Speaker 1: about isn't about Zimmer. My point is about guys who

948
00:55:33,800 --> 00:55:37,399
Speaker 1: can do other things. Okay, and that's why a guy

949
00:55:37,520 --> 00:55:44,160
Speaker 1: like Spencer Brown, Justin Zimmer, you name it, Reggie Gilliam.

950
00:55:45,120 --> 00:55:47,000
Speaker 1: Some of these guys can do other things. Gives you

951
00:55:47,080 --> 00:55:49,680
Speaker 1: the ability to keep seven wide out. So in a game,

952
00:55:49,719 --> 00:55:52,040
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you can go four wide, five

953
00:55:52,160 --> 00:55:54,640
Speaker 1: wide more often than you otherwise would have because you

954
00:55:55,000 --> 00:55:58,120
Speaker 1: you've got a spare. So and here's why you gotta

955
00:55:58,120 --> 00:55:59,799
Speaker 1: have a spare. You go four wide and you only

956
00:55:59,840 --> 00:56:05,840
Speaker 1: got five guys active you lose a guy, now, I mean,

957
00:56:05,960 --> 00:56:08,040
Speaker 1: or if you lose a guy and this guy can't play,

958
00:56:09,080 --> 00:56:11,080
Speaker 1: you can't go four wide in that game, and all

959
00:56:11,120 --> 00:56:13,440
Speaker 1: the preparation you've done for the four wide set goes out.

960
00:56:13,480 --> 00:56:15,719
Speaker 1: The window. Now you're trying to win left handed in

961
00:56:15,800 --> 00:56:18,040
Speaker 1: the middle of a game, you gotta have guys that

962
00:56:18,120 --> 00:56:21,359
Speaker 1: can step in well. And that's also why Brian Day

963
00:56:21,400 --> 00:56:23,880
Speaker 1: will make sure that his receivers know all the spots.

964
00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:27,880
Speaker 1: Nobody's just an ex, nobody's just a z. He has

965
00:56:27,960 --> 00:56:30,240
Speaker 1: them learn everything. If step goes for if Steph Diggs

966
00:56:30,280 --> 00:56:34,600
Speaker 1: goes down, Cole Beasley goes down, you just ratchet it

967
00:56:34,680 --> 00:56:37,080
Speaker 1: up in one notch. Everybody, everybody who's on the pecking

968
00:56:37,160 --> 00:56:39,720
Speaker 1: order below those guys goes up a notch, and somebody's

969
00:56:39,760 --> 00:56:42,479
Speaker 1: got to be Steph Diggs for the day. They're gonna

970
00:56:42,520 --> 00:56:46,360
Speaker 1: get twelve targets, you know, that's the way it spread

971
00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:48,560
Speaker 1: it around a little bit. Or maybe he's not getting separation.

972
00:56:48,640 --> 00:56:51,680
Speaker 1: He's got to throw it somewhere else. Nevertheless, those players

973
00:56:51,680 --> 00:56:56,600
Speaker 1: are gonna get called. Yeah, you know, for all, for

974
00:56:56,760 --> 00:56:59,719
Speaker 1: all the teasing you tease me on Dane Jackson and

975
00:56:59,840 --> 00:57:04,200
Speaker 1: myf for him, go man, you are you are all

976
00:57:04,280 --> 00:57:07,239
Speaker 1: in on Zimmer a guy back big. You had him

977
00:57:07,280 --> 00:57:10,000
Speaker 1: fullback on the goal line. Now we've got him a

978
00:57:10,080 --> 00:57:14,800
Speaker 1: tight end fullback. Story ends the same thing in the

979
00:57:14,920 --> 00:57:17,880
Speaker 1: Golden Come on, man, shift, He'll shift out. He'll put

980
00:57:17,920 --> 00:57:20,680
Speaker 1: his hand on the ground, stand up, back on to it.

981
00:57:20,880 --> 00:57:22,760
Speaker 1: I'm not against it. At one hundred and twenty pounder

982
00:57:22,800 --> 00:57:27,120
Speaker 1: in motion, let's go. I'm he runs eighteen miles an hour.

983
00:57:27,240 --> 00:57:31,959
Speaker 1: We know that guy is fast for a big dude.

984
00:57:33,440 --> 00:57:36,200
Speaker 1: I'd love to see it. So you get him, put

985
00:57:36,280 --> 00:57:38,520
Speaker 1: him on a wing, and they're gonna line up in

986
00:57:38,640 --> 00:57:41,880
Speaker 1: coverage if they go man down there, they're gonna line

987
00:57:41,920 --> 00:57:46,640
Speaker 1: up a chubby guy against him, right, They're gonna be

988
00:57:46,680 --> 00:57:48,240
Speaker 1: They're gonna line up a big dude again. They're not

989
00:57:48,240 --> 00:57:50,800
Speaker 1: gonna line up their number corner one CB one on

990
00:57:51,080 --> 00:57:54,280
Speaker 1: Justin Zimmer and nobody. That could be a mismagic could

991
00:57:54,280 --> 00:57:57,080
Speaker 1: just buy nobody at that what is gonna be able

992
00:57:57,080 --> 00:57:58,959
Speaker 1: to stay with it? He gives him one good hard

993
00:57:59,160 --> 00:58:01,840
Speaker 1: jab fake on a route and that guy's gonna be

994
00:58:03,280 --> 00:58:07,880
Speaker 1: on the ground touchdown. Okay. I'm telling you the same

995
00:58:07,960 --> 00:58:11,840
Speaker 1: thing with Spencer Long, Spencer Brown, Spencer Brown, Spencer Brown.

996
00:58:12,200 --> 00:58:18,000
Speaker 1: Same thing with him up. Turn around and put your

997
00:58:18,040 --> 00:58:21,560
Speaker 1: hands over your head. Yeah, he could pull him, pull

998
00:58:21,640 --> 00:58:27,840
Speaker 1: him down from above the crossbar. True story. I read

999
00:58:27,920 --> 00:58:35,880
Speaker 1: this in Wilt Chamberlain's autobiography, was written decades ago. Hank

1000
00:58:35,960 --> 00:58:39,760
Speaker 1: Stram had him on the field because Wilt was at

1001
00:58:40,600 --> 00:58:44,600
Speaker 1: Wilt was at KU University of Kansa and and Lawrence

1002
00:58:44,680 --> 00:58:46,040
Speaker 1: is just down the road from Kansas City. So the

1003
00:58:46,080 --> 00:58:47,840
Speaker 1: Chiefs have him out there, put him on goal line.

1004
00:58:48,240 --> 00:58:50,280
Speaker 1: So let me see what you and you throw them.

1005
00:58:50,360 --> 00:58:52,240
Speaker 1: They threw the ball up above the you know, the

1006
00:58:52,280 --> 00:58:56,600
Speaker 1: up above the crossbar need to go up and his yeah,

1007
00:58:56,640 --> 00:59:00,240
Speaker 1: I mean it was like a yeah, he just up.

1008
00:59:01,600 --> 00:59:05,240
Speaker 1: It's like man like, like an octopus with dentacles, right,

1009
00:59:06,040 --> 00:59:10,880
Speaker 1: just like spirit in that's you know, that's you know,

1010
00:59:11,520 --> 00:59:14,680
Speaker 1: that's hank Stram way ahead of his time. But think

1011
00:59:14,680 --> 00:59:17,960
Speaker 1: about it, that's kind of cool with Spencer six eight.

1012
00:59:19,520 --> 00:59:24,760
Speaker 1: Like Pete that's that's Pete metz Laar's height. You know,

1013
00:59:25,120 --> 00:59:27,720
Speaker 1: that's just any play tight end in eight man football,

1014
00:59:27,760 --> 00:59:30,480
Speaker 1: so it wouldn't be completely foreign into everybody eligible in

1015
00:59:30,480 --> 00:59:33,880
Speaker 1: eight man football. Yeah, Seth on the tweet sheet says

1016
00:59:34,040 --> 00:59:36,680
Speaker 1: it's a tie between O line and D line for

1017
00:59:36,840 --> 00:59:40,200
Speaker 1: me because of the added depth in each room. Lots

1018
00:59:40,240 --> 00:59:43,720
Speaker 1: of competition should lead to more production, especially on the

1019
00:59:43,800 --> 00:59:47,280
Speaker 1: defensive line. Wide receiver group is exciting with the Sanders edition,

1020
00:59:47,320 --> 00:59:50,480
Speaker 1: and I think Stevenson makes the squad and proves to

1021
00:59:50,640 --> 00:59:54,760
Speaker 1: be very dynamic. Well, those are probably the three position

1022
00:59:54,840 --> 00:59:58,200
Speaker 1: groups that got the most attention this offseason. I would

1023
00:59:58,240 --> 01:00:02,520
Speaker 1: say in terms of new edition, you've already kind of

1024
01:00:03,960 --> 01:00:08,640
Speaker 1: laid out why old line is so exciting. I think

1025
01:00:08,680 --> 01:00:12,560
Speaker 1: the question there is just how much are the rookies

1026
01:00:12,760 --> 01:00:17,440
Speaker 1: or younger players going to push those veteran incumbent starters.

1027
01:00:17,520 --> 01:00:21,920
Speaker 1: Can they realistically push for playing time or are they

1028
01:00:22,120 --> 01:00:26,440
Speaker 1: just going to be reserves that play a couple of positions.

1029
01:00:27,920 --> 01:00:31,200
Speaker 1: We've heard Brandon Bean already talk about Spencer Brown as

1030
01:00:31,240 --> 01:00:35,640
Speaker 1: the team's swing tackle, essentially the third tackle on game day.

1031
01:00:36,520 --> 01:00:38,680
Speaker 1: We don't know what the future holds from Tommy do

1032
01:00:38,800 --> 01:00:41,800
Speaker 1: it for Tommy Doyle, whether he'll be you know, up

1033
01:00:41,880 --> 01:00:43,640
Speaker 1: on game day or one of you know, the one

1034
01:00:43,680 --> 01:00:47,240
Speaker 1: inactive presuming they keep nine and dress eight every week.

1035
01:00:48,240 --> 01:00:52,280
Speaker 1: Jack Anderson, there's been some good returns on his play

1036
01:00:52,400 --> 01:00:57,680
Speaker 1: so far. And he's a guard center option. So you know,

1037
01:00:57,720 --> 01:00:59,800
Speaker 1: if you can prove you can line up at two spots,

1038
01:01:01,520 --> 01:01:04,720
Speaker 1: that helps your cause for being active on game day. Yeah,

1039
01:01:04,880 --> 01:01:07,880
Speaker 1: and even if you're active, you can play two spots,

1040
01:01:07,920 --> 01:01:09,919
Speaker 1: you know, get in an offensive you're you're certainly gonna

1041
01:01:09,960 --> 01:01:12,040
Speaker 1: be in on field goal protection, You're gonna be in

1042
01:01:12,160 --> 01:01:14,800
Speaker 1: on whatever special teams. You can find yourself in the

1043
01:01:14,880 --> 01:01:20,040
Speaker 1: middle of that, and not for nothing. That's what it's

1044
01:01:20,080 --> 01:01:24,320
Speaker 1: all about. When the team lines up on Sunday, you

1045
01:01:24,400 --> 01:01:26,800
Speaker 1: want to be there. You don't just want to practice

1046
01:01:26,880 --> 01:01:29,560
Speaker 1: Monday through Saturday. Yeah, you want to be on the field.

1047
01:01:29,600 --> 01:01:31,080
Speaker 1: And even if it means you don't get to take

1048
01:01:31,200 --> 01:01:34,560
Speaker 1: very many reps or whatever, you're there. And that's a

1049
01:01:34,680 --> 01:01:37,160
Speaker 1: big step. And a lot of young players kind of

1050
01:01:37,200 --> 01:01:39,880
Speaker 1: get lost in the fact that you know the practice

1051
01:01:39,880 --> 01:01:43,680
Speaker 1: squad and they're kind of bumming. Listen, practice squad is

1052
01:01:43,800 --> 01:01:46,840
Speaker 1: way better than sitting on your couch watching from home.

1053
01:01:46,920 --> 01:01:50,200
Speaker 1: Not being on a team and being active on game

1054
01:01:50,320 --> 01:01:52,560
Speaker 1: day gives you a chance to contribute and further your

1055
01:01:52,600 --> 01:01:55,560
Speaker 1: career and get on film any rep you can get

1056
01:01:56,160 --> 01:02:00,360
Speaker 1: so that your career can be evaluated and progress. Just

1057
01:02:00,760 --> 01:02:03,480
Speaker 1: get closer to the field. For these young guys, like

1058
01:02:03,600 --> 01:02:06,480
Speaker 1: guys you know, like these the draft picks all the

1059
01:02:06,520 --> 01:02:09,240
Speaker 1: way down the line. You gotta find a way to

1060
01:02:09,440 --> 01:02:13,200
Speaker 1: just get in the building somehow, some way. If it's

1061
01:02:13,360 --> 01:02:18,120
Speaker 1: if it's practice squad, fine, if it's special teams, good grief. Yeah,

1062
01:02:18,360 --> 01:02:22,520
Speaker 1: you're playing an NFL game. Let's go. They have sixteen

1063
01:02:22,640 --> 01:02:25,480
Speaker 1: defensive linemen on this roster, and they're arguably only going

1064
01:02:25,520 --> 01:02:28,360
Speaker 1: to keep half of them on the active roster. Yeah,

1065
01:02:28,640 --> 01:02:32,960
Speaker 1: I mean maybe maybe nine, maybe two in the practice squad.

1066
01:02:34,360 --> 01:02:39,160
Speaker 1: I would say that, cops, that's probably true. Yes, and

1067
01:02:39,480 --> 01:02:44,600
Speaker 1: maybe two offensive linemen on the practice squad. Yeah, And

1068
01:02:44,720 --> 01:02:47,080
Speaker 1: they gotta have the right guys who are practice squad

1069
01:02:47,160 --> 01:02:50,240
Speaker 1: eligible for that, and that factors into the decision making

1070
01:02:50,320 --> 01:02:55,200
Speaker 1: as well. I'm telling you, man, I think the Bills

1071
01:02:55,880 --> 01:03:01,520
Speaker 1: will when we get closer to roster cut down time,

1072
01:03:03,000 --> 01:03:06,360
Speaker 1: you know, like maybe a week out from the deadline

1073
01:03:06,360 --> 01:03:08,680
Speaker 1: to cut the roster to fifty three, which I believe

1074
01:03:08,760 --> 01:03:10,720
Speaker 1: is August twenty ninth this year. It's a little earlier

1075
01:03:10,760 --> 01:03:16,960
Speaker 1: than usual. They're gonna get phone calls like, hey, you know,

1076
01:03:17,240 --> 01:03:20,000
Speaker 1: you got sixteen offensive lineman, you're not keeping them all.

1077
01:03:21,400 --> 01:03:23,360
Speaker 1: Let us know if you're interested in moving one of them.

1078
01:03:23,400 --> 01:03:27,760
Speaker 1: We really like a B or C. And then Brandon says, Okay, well,

1079
01:03:27,800 --> 01:03:29,360
Speaker 1: what are you willing me to be willing to give me?

1080
01:03:29,720 --> 01:03:31,920
Speaker 1: You know, you may be able to fifth, you may

1081
01:03:32,000 --> 01:03:35,880
Speaker 1: be able to scoop up some draft capital here by

1082
01:03:36,000 --> 01:03:40,360
Speaker 1: parting with one of these guys that you know you

1083
01:03:40,480 --> 01:03:42,880
Speaker 1: can't keep, and you know if you put them on

1084
01:03:42,920 --> 01:03:46,000
Speaker 1: the practice squad they'll get scooped up anyway. So even

1085
01:03:46,040 --> 01:03:47,720
Speaker 1: if you can just get a seven or a six

1086
01:03:47,880 --> 01:03:50,760
Speaker 1: for somebody, knowing how deep that draft class is going

1087
01:03:50,800 --> 01:03:52,800
Speaker 1: to be next year, you've got guys that aren't even

1088
01:03:52,840 --> 01:03:59,080
Speaker 1: in the mixes start like Ike Butker, Ryan Bates, Forrest Lamp,

1089
01:03:59,680 --> 01:04:07,320
Speaker 1: Bob Hart, Jamil Douglas, Jordan Devi. All those guys have

1090
01:04:07,440 --> 01:04:11,760
Speaker 1: got film, yeah, playing in the NFL. So teams are

1091
01:04:11,800 --> 01:04:15,000
Speaker 1: gonna know what those guys are. Forget about forget about

1092
01:04:15,040 --> 01:04:17,200
Speaker 1: the Tommy Doyles and Spencer Browns of the world, the

1093
01:04:17,440 --> 01:04:20,640
Speaker 1: draft picks. It's those guys that the Bills have on

1094
01:04:20,720 --> 01:04:24,120
Speaker 1: their on their roster. Force Lamps started every single game

1095
01:04:24,240 --> 01:04:27,280
Speaker 1: last year for the Chargers, and so they had their

1096
01:04:27,320 --> 01:04:30,680
Speaker 1: share of issues. Might I Butker and Ryan Bates played

1097
01:04:30,680 --> 01:04:36,680
Speaker 1: a ton for this for this team. So teams are

1098
01:04:36,720 --> 01:04:38,880
Speaker 1: gonna know what they're getting and if and they can,

1099
01:04:39,240 --> 01:04:41,400
Speaker 1: and they're gonna know by watching their own players whether

1100
01:04:41,440 --> 01:04:43,760
Speaker 1: those guys are better yeah, or at least think like

1101
01:04:43,920 --> 01:04:48,400
Speaker 1: they are rusty on the tweet, Sheets says wide receiver

1102
01:04:48,760 --> 01:04:51,840
Speaker 1: is most encouraging. The Bills are deep and that's great.

1103
01:04:52,200 --> 01:04:55,960
Speaker 1: They may keep six or seven after Diggsby's, Davis and Sanders.

1104
01:04:56,240 --> 01:04:58,200
Speaker 1: You have five or six guys fighting for two or

1105
01:04:58,240 --> 01:05:02,120
Speaker 1: three spots. Mister under McKenzie will push for kick return

1106
01:05:02,520 --> 01:05:07,240
Speaker 1: and wide receiver. Five Stevenson, Hodgens, Kumarro, Duke, and Gentry

1107
01:05:07,680 --> 01:05:12,920
Speaker 1: all offer different skill sets to push and it you

1108
01:05:13,040 --> 01:05:18,200
Speaker 1: know that is they do have different skill sets. You

1109
01:05:18,240 --> 01:05:21,680
Speaker 1: know Rusty is correct. The question is who's going to

1110
01:05:21,720 --> 01:05:25,440
Speaker 1: be able to maximize the strengths of their game the

1111
01:05:25,520 --> 01:05:27,880
Speaker 1: best within the scope of this scheme. Here's an interesting

1112
01:05:27,960 --> 01:05:34,880
Speaker 1: question for you, Brownie. You got Duke, you got Gentry, Kumarro, Hodgens, Stevenson.

1113
01:05:34,880 --> 01:05:36,680
Speaker 1: We'll put him in there too. Maybe we talked about

1114
01:05:36,720 --> 01:05:42,840
Speaker 1: Brandon Powell. He's with He's with Stevenson and McKenzie, right,

1115
01:05:42,920 --> 01:05:45,919
Speaker 1: same kind of guy. Right, So you got all these guys.

1116
01:05:46,000 --> 01:05:51,200
Speaker 1: If you're if you're Brian Dayboll Sean McDermott, you look

1117
01:05:51,240 --> 01:05:58,080
Speaker 1: at Kumero, Duke, Williams, Gentry Hodgens. Are you looking for

1118
01:05:58,160 --> 01:06:01,680
Speaker 1: a guy who gives you something different than the other

1119
01:06:01,760 --> 01:06:04,920
Speaker 1: four guys? Or five guys on the wide receiver, or

1120
01:06:04,960 --> 01:06:09,760
Speaker 1: you're looking for more of the same. You know, are

1121
01:06:09,800 --> 01:06:11,080
Speaker 1: you looking for a guy that if you got to

1122
01:06:11,120 --> 01:06:13,360
Speaker 1: plug him in, you're gonna have to give him some

1123
01:06:13,480 --> 01:06:16,680
Speaker 1: plays because he's not gonna fit what we were doing

1124
01:06:16,760 --> 01:06:20,160
Speaker 1: before he got in. Or are you gonna look for

1125
01:06:20,240 --> 01:06:23,400
Speaker 1: a guy that's more of what Digs and Beasley, You're

1126
01:06:23,440 --> 01:06:24,880
Speaker 1: kind of like he's not gonna be as good as them.

1127
01:06:26,920 --> 01:06:28,880
Speaker 1: I think on the whole, they just look for the

1128
01:06:29,000 --> 01:06:32,840
Speaker 1: best player. Now what does that mean? Does that mean

1129
01:06:33,280 --> 01:06:37,680
Speaker 1: guy that wins against NFL competition? I would say yes. Um,

1130
01:06:37,840 --> 01:06:41,000
Speaker 1: obviously the versatility and the special team's ability comes into

1131
01:06:41,040 --> 01:06:43,240
Speaker 1: play because you know, if you're not going to be

1132
01:06:43,360 --> 01:06:47,400
Speaker 1: starting on offense, you got to do some special team's ability.

1133
01:06:47,440 --> 01:06:48,800
Speaker 1: If you want to be up on games, you gotta

1134
01:06:48,840 --> 01:06:52,200
Speaker 1: do something. If everybody's healthy, you're not playing on offense, right. Um,

1135
01:06:52,640 --> 01:06:54,960
Speaker 1: So special team's ability I think is probably the biggest

1136
01:06:55,000 --> 01:06:57,840
Speaker 1: thing that factors in because if you don't do that

1137
01:06:58,160 --> 01:06:59,800
Speaker 1: all right, well you're not in our top five. Who

1138
01:07:00,200 --> 01:07:04,000
Speaker 1: was good special teams player? And then of course you

1139
01:07:04,080 --> 01:07:10,760
Speaker 1: said it Stevenson, Well, Stevenson and Powell in the league. Um,

1140
01:07:10,920 --> 01:07:13,960
Speaker 1: that's a lot of competition for one spot, it is

1141
01:07:15,080 --> 01:07:22,439
Speaker 1: it most definitely is Yeah? They could they cover kicks?

1142
01:07:22,480 --> 01:07:27,800
Speaker 1: You can any of those guys tackle well that I

1143
01:07:27,920 --> 01:07:31,000
Speaker 1: don't know. I'm not going to pretend it's interesting. I'm

1144
01:07:31,040 --> 01:07:32,880
Speaker 1: just I think you're right. I think you go with

1145
01:07:33,000 --> 01:07:36,000
Speaker 1: the guy who's best, the best guy. Can he win

1146
01:07:36,040 --> 01:07:38,880
Speaker 1: against NFL one on ones? Is he good enough to

1147
01:07:38,960 --> 01:07:41,240
Speaker 1: find the dead spot in his zone? Is he good

1148
01:07:41,320 --> 01:07:43,880
Speaker 1: enough to bring it down when he's contested. Is he

1149
01:07:44,000 --> 01:07:47,840
Speaker 1: physical enough to get off press all of that stuff? Um?

1150
01:07:48,040 --> 01:07:51,080
Speaker 1: And when you tell him a play, does he know

1151
01:07:51,160 --> 01:07:55,560
Speaker 1: what to do? This just in kind of important. Can

1152
01:07:55,640 --> 01:07:58,920
Speaker 1: he pick up the offense? Yeah? Powell is a lot

1153
01:07:59,000 --> 01:08:02,320
Speaker 1: like Mackenzie's, similar body type. He's a little bit bigger

1154
01:08:02,360 --> 01:08:08,240
Speaker 1: than McKenzie. Not much, right, it's m Yeah. They both

1155
01:08:08,320 --> 01:08:10,840
Speaker 1: have pluses and minuses, and they're the same type of

1156
01:08:10,880 --> 01:08:12,959
Speaker 1: player right there. I think those guys are in direct

1157
01:08:13,000 --> 01:08:19,080
Speaker 1: competition with Stevenson. Yeah, I would agree, but that doesn't

1158
01:08:19,080 --> 01:08:20,880
Speaker 1: mean I've seen it. We've seen it happen before. All

1159
01:08:20,920 --> 01:08:26,280
Speaker 1: three of those guys may make it. It could happen.

1160
01:08:26,479 --> 01:08:29,920
Speaker 1: I mean they because they're gonna get an opportunity to Yeah,

1161
01:08:30,560 --> 01:08:32,679
Speaker 1: they're gonna get a chance to and if if Dabe

1162
01:08:32,760 --> 01:08:37,840
Speaker 1: Davis comes in and pulls a hammy can't practice, those

1163
01:08:37,880 --> 01:08:40,599
Speaker 1: guys are gonna get his get his reps, and they

1164
01:08:40,760 --> 01:08:43,840
Speaker 1: if they show out, what's the team gonna do. They

1165
01:08:43,920 --> 01:08:45,320
Speaker 1: hire the guy because they think he can play, and

1166
01:08:45,320 --> 01:08:48,080
Speaker 1: if he proves he can, what are they gonna do. Yeah,

1167
01:08:48,240 --> 01:08:51,360
Speaker 1: they're in a tricky spot at that point, which is

1168
01:08:51,400 --> 01:08:52,840
Speaker 1: why I think there's gonna be a lot of very,

1169
01:08:52,960 --> 01:08:58,000
Speaker 1: very very difficult decisions. It's a different it's it's a

1170
01:08:58,040 --> 01:09:01,719
Speaker 1: good dilemma to have, but still it's lemma sure. Plus

1171
01:09:01,760 --> 01:09:03,840
Speaker 1: you got to expose those guys to other teams that

1172
01:09:03,920 --> 01:09:08,439
Speaker 1: you don't want him to play for whoever it is correct. Yeah,

1173
01:09:08,479 --> 01:09:10,479
Speaker 1: that's it's it's tough. There will be guys that get

1174
01:09:10,520 --> 01:09:12,400
Speaker 1: cut from this roster. They're gonna play elsewhere this year.

1175
01:09:12,400 --> 01:09:15,040
Speaker 1: It's it's going to happen. We've talked about a ton

1176
01:09:15,240 --> 01:09:16,880
Speaker 1: and back in the day when this team was going

1177
01:09:16,920 --> 01:09:19,920
Speaker 1: to the Super Bowl every year, a lot of really

1178
01:09:19,960 --> 01:09:21,840
Speaker 1: good players had to be let go. Funny, when we

1179
01:09:21,920 --> 01:09:23,960
Speaker 1: were doing taskers teammate a couple of weeks ago, Chris

1180
01:09:24,040 --> 01:09:28,599
Speaker 1: Walsh's name came up and eleven year, got how long

1181
01:09:28,720 --> 01:09:31,280
Speaker 1: he played in the league after not making it here,

1182
01:09:31,760 --> 01:09:35,479
Speaker 1: playing eleven year career in Minnesota and was this team

1183
01:09:36,000 --> 01:09:38,600
Speaker 1: was a good player for them, Yeah, and could not

1184
01:09:39,160 --> 01:09:42,519
Speaker 1: could not make it here. There's a ton of guys

1185
01:09:42,680 --> 01:09:44,640
Speaker 1: I think. I think there might be some players like

1186
01:09:44,720 --> 01:09:46,960
Speaker 1: that this year that we see play elsewhere. I'm not

1187
01:09:47,040 --> 01:09:50,280
Speaker 1: saying for eleven years necessarily, but there will be guys

1188
01:09:50,400 --> 01:09:52,559
Speaker 1: who don't make this roster who are going to play

1189
01:09:52,640 --> 01:09:55,240
Speaker 1: in the league somewhere else this year. That's how deep

1190
01:09:55,880 --> 01:10:00,280
Speaker 1: this roster is. Dinah says, gotta go with wide risk. Ever,

1191
01:10:00,880 --> 01:10:03,360
Speaker 1: Davis showed a ton of potential last season. Sanders is

1192
01:10:03,360 --> 01:10:06,840
Speaker 1: a great ad. Diggs and Beasley are approven top two duo.

1193
01:10:07,600 --> 01:10:10,040
Speaker 1: The rest of the guys are really good, but they

1194
01:10:10,080 --> 01:10:12,560
Speaker 1: won't all make it because they limited space. That's a

1195
01:10:12,680 --> 01:10:20,160
Speaker 1: win in my book, I get it. It's certainly. I

1196
01:10:20,280 --> 01:10:22,680
Speaker 1: think it's with the addition of Diggs last year, and

1197
01:10:22,680 --> 01:10:23,880
Speaker 1: all lots have been made of that, and I don't

1198
01:10:23,880 --> 01:10:26,200
Speaker 1: want to overstate it because a lot of the good

1199
01:10:26,280 --> 01:10:28,479
Speaker 1: things that happened last year were because Josh was a

1200
01:10:28,560 --> 01:10:31,840
Speaker 1: different guy than we thought he was gonna be. So

1201
01:10:32,040 --> 01:10:35,920
Speaker 1: that kind of trumps everything. But Diggs certainly transformed was

1202
01:10:36,040 --> 01:10:39,320
Speaker 1: part of the reason that offense was absolutely transformed last year.

1203
01:10:39,680 --> 01:10:42,200
Speaker 1: Gabe Davis was a big reason that offense was transformed.

1204
01:10:42,200 --> 01:10:45,920
Speaker 1: I think his emergence was the surprise of the season

1205
01:10:46,200 --> 01:10:51,200
Speaker 1: and the roster. They didn't run much for wide until

1206
01:10:51,360 --> 01:10:54,559
Speaker 1: last year and in Week one because of Gabe Davis

1207
01:10:54,600 --> 01:10:57,320
Speaker 1: and his coming in as a rookie with no offseason,

1208
01:10:57,439 --> 01:11:00,840
Speaker 1: no preseason games, all of a sudden, we're doing the

1209
01:11:00,840 --> 01:11:02,800
Speaker 1: games on me. You're sitting there watching it tune. It's like,

1210
01:11:02,840 --> 01:11:07,040
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, he's on the field today, day one,

1211
01:11:07,360 --> 01:11:12,800
Speaker 1: Day one, with no preseason that's impressive. And then he

1212
01:11:12,880 --> 01:11:16,679
Speaker 1: has seven touchdowns on thirty five catches with three called back. Yeah,

1213
01:11:17,720 --> 01:11:20,840
Speaker 1: so it's I think he's gonna do something this year. Yeah,

1214
01:11:21,000 --> 01:11:26,840
Speaker 1: that's exactly the point that that group, I mean, that's

1215
01:11:26,960 --> 01:11:30,200
Speaker 1: it jumps off the page. It jumps off the page

1216
01:11:30,479 --> 01:11:34,240
Speaker 1: and digs being, you know, the spotlight, the headliner for

1217
01:11:34,360 --> 01:11:37,519
Speaker 1: what he did. But Beasley was a proven veteran and

1218
01:11:37,680 --> 01:11:40,280
Speaker 1: he made some unbelievable He was number one in the

1219
01:11:40,360 --> 01:11:44,320
Speaker 1: NFL for making contested catches last year. Eighty five percent

1220
01:11:44,400 --> 01:11:46,880
Speaker 1: of the contested catches he had, he pulled in, he

1221
01:11:47,040 --> 01:11:51,240
Speaker 1: led the league. That's money, man. That's so. Yeah, the

1222
01:11:51,439 --> 01:11:54,280
Speaker 1: wide receiver group, there's every reason to be encouraged by him,

1223
01:11:54,640 --> 01:11:57,640
Speaker 1: every reason to be because they're deep, they're talent, they

1224
01:11:57,680 --> 01:12:00,240
Speaker 1: got everything they're gonna need. They got speed, they got hands,

1225
01:12:00,240 --> 01:12:03,960
Speaker 1: they got route runners, they got slot guys, they got

1226
01:12:04,200 --> 01:12:07,920
Speaker 1: they got a big number one, they got a big

1227
01:12:08,040 --> 01:12:13,840
Speaker 1: number two. Good grief. Yeah, I mean that's that's where

1228
01:12:13,880 --> 01:12:15,479
Speaker 1: you want to be. And that's well, you know, that's

1229
01:12:15,680 --> 01:12:18,519
Speaker 1: why we're picked to be the front runner to beat

1230
01:12:18,560 --> 01:12:22,200
Speaker 1: the Chiefs in the conference. So we'll see. But that's yeah,

1231
01:12:22,360 --> 01:12:25,120
Speaker 1: these are all right. And I we talked about this

1232
01:12:25,240 --> 01:12:28,080
Speaker 1: in the before the show about you know, what our

1233
01:12:28,120 --> 01:12:29,519
Speaker 1: topic was going to be, and I like, yeah, there's

1234
01:12:29,520 --> 01:12:30,800
Speaker 1: a lot of reasons to be opt to me because

1235
01:12:30,800 --> 01:12:32,360
Speaker 1: we know we've got that kind of team now, right.

1236
01:12:32,439 --> 01:12:34,040
Speaker 1: But when you start getting into it, and the more

1237
01:12:34,080 --> 01:12:36,000
Speaker 1: you talk about this wide receiver crew, it's like, man,

1238
01:12:36,040 --> 01:12:39,679
Speaker 1: oh man, that's a wrecking crew. It is no question

1239
01:12:39,720 --> 01:12:41,760
Speaker 1: about it. Jack says, I'm gonna go with the old line.

1240
01:12:42,360 --> 01:12:44,639
Speaker 1: Never had our top five linemen played together at any

1241
01:12:44,720 --> 01:12:46,880
Speaker 1: point last season, and we brought in a lot of

1242
01:12:46,920 --> 01:12:51,880
Speaker 1: guys for more competition. So the overwhelming answers here have

1243
01:12:52,040 --> 01:12:55,360
Speaker 1: been old line, D line and wide receiver. There've been

1244
01:12:55,360 --> 01:12:59,439
Speaker 1: a few outliers, but it's mostly the old line D line,

1245
01:12:59,439 --> 01:13:04,400
Speaker 1: which is where the draft was squarely focused. And you know,

1246
01:13:04,560 --> 01:13:07,599
Speaker 1: outside of that, it's been receiver, and you understand why,

1247
01:13:08,120 --> 01:13:10,679
Speaker 1: and you under I think you also understand why they've

1248
01:13:10,720 --> 01:13:15,520
Speaker 1: made the receiver group so deep because of their propensity

1249
01:13:15,600 --> 01:13:18,000
Speaker 1: to play ten personnel, second in the league only to

1250
01:13:18,080 --> 01:13:24,519
Speaker 1: Tampa or Arizona, I think Arizona. And then they dressed

1251
01:13:24,640 --> 01:13:29,240
Speaker 1: six receivers every single week last year. Every week they

1252
01:13:29,280 --> 01:13:33,280
Speaker 1: had six up, and I can't recall a time before

1253
01:13:33,400 --> 01:13:35,400
Speaker 1: last season where that was the case. And it wasn't

1254
01:13:35,439 --> 01:13:37,880
Speaker 1: just the same it wasn't even the same old six

1255
01:13:37,960 --> 01:13:40,320
Speaker 1: guys every week either. Krumo got in on the field

1256
01:13:40,400 --> 01:13:42,479
Speaker 1: late late last year, played a ton of special teams

1257
01:13:42,560 --> 01:13:44,760
Speaker 1: when John Brown was out and John Brown came out,

1258
01:13:44,800 --> 01:13:47,760
Speaker 1: and which was huge that they could fill that void.

1259
01:13:48,400 --> 01:13:51,200
Speaker 1: Duke Williams got a game or two, it was big.

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Speaker 1: All Right, we have to take a break, but when

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Speaker 1: we come back, we're gonna check in on Twitter for

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Speaker 1: another one of our posts earlier, which was as we

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Speaker 1: had a tweet where we put something out there about

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Speaker 1: ESPN's first Take show. I believe it was they asked

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Speaker 1: their panelists who is the biggest threat to the Chiefs

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Speaker 1: in the AFC. You'll be interested in the answers number

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Speaker 1: one and the caption that we put on it. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna see what some of your captions were at One

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Speaker 1: Bills Live next here. We'll be back in a second.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back, second half of the show underway here on

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Speaker 1: a Thursday, Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you, and before

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Speaker 1: the show today on our One bills Live Twitter handle,

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Speaker 1: our producer Jay Harris put together the screenshot photo from

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Speaker 1: ESPN's get Up show where they had their analysts pick

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Speaker 1: which team they thought was the biggest threat to the

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Speaker 1: Chiefs in the AFC, and three out of four picked

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Speaker 1: the Bills, Dan Dan Graziano, Lewis Riddick, and Jeff Saturday

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Speaker 1: all picked the Bills, Chris Canty picked the Browns, and

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Speaker 1: so we asked everybody to caption this photo after we

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Speaker 1: did it ourselves with a famous line from the office

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Speaker 1: by one Michael Scott who said, well, well, well, how

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Speaker 1: the turntables. So among some of the better captions that

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Speaker 1: we came up with or that you came up with.

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Speaker 1: Sorry one, well, Mike Greenberg is the host of this show.

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Speaker 1: He was not hosting on this day. He's presumably on vacation.

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Speaker 1: And somebody said, of course Greeny isn't there. He'll never

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Speaker 1: talk about the Bills because he's a out now Jets fan.

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Speaker 1: And then there was another one who recognized the joke

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Speaker 1: and had Michael Scott giff from the office where he says, Hi,

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Speaker 1: I am date Mike, Nice to meet me. Um, we

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Speaker 1: got Josh Allen. They don't pretty simple predictions winky face

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Speaker 1: from Cyborg Allen. Uh. Then I like this one from

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Speaker 1: Vermont Bills fan fire Chris as in Chris Canty, who

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Speaker 1: is the only one who did not pick the Bills.

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Speaker 1: He picked then, which it's not a bad pick, not

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Speaker 1: a bad pick. Came close to beating the Chiefs in

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Speaker 1: the playoffs last year. Right. Somebody followed that up by saying,

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Speaker 1: I always questioned Chris Canty sanity a right good stuff though.

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Speaker 1: I it's fun for Bills fans, particularly this offseason, to

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Speaker 1: be at the top of this even the list are

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Speaker 1: our guests at the top of the hour, Benn and

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, yeah, Ben, and Lindsay, Ben Lindsay. He ranked

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Speaker 1: the Bills secondary very high, ranked Brian Dable as a

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Speaker 1: play caller very high. In the league rankings, they rank everything.

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Speaker 1: I guess these days, well what else do you do

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01:17:03,640 --> 01:17:06,280
Speaker 1: in the off season, right, So it's fun for Bills

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Speaker 1: fans to see Bills people show up high on all

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Speaker 1: these rankings and to be the team that's, you know,

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Speaker 1: finger quotes, just behind the Chiefs and the AFC pretty much.

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Speaker 1: I get it. We're I think the Bills are gonna

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Speaker 1: have a hard time shaking that. I might say shaking it.

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Speaker 1: I like them. It's a bad thing. But because of

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Speaker 1: the way the AFC Championship game went, I think even

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Speaker 1: Bills fans do this. They exaggerate the difference there is

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Speaker 1: between the Chiefs and the Bills. I'll go on record again.

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Speaker 1: Let me just say it again, Brownie, you're ready. I'm ready.

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Speaker 1: All you gotta do to beat the Chiefs and just

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Speaker 1: play better that day. The Bills are good enough. Now

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Speaker 1: now the Chiefs can be beat that. They proved it

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Speaker 1: in during the regular season. And he goes sixteen and Ozer.

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Speaker 1: The Bills are hard to beat as well. So they've

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Speaker 1: got all the talent they need, they got the depth

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Speaker 1: they need, they got the coaching staff they need. They

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Speaker 1: can beat the Chiefs right now. All they're gonna do

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Speaker 1: is play well on that day, that's the question. That's

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Speaker 1: the key. They went to a place they'd never been

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Speaker 1: before last year, getting to the AFC title game. It

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Speaker 1: feels like a big step up. It feels it feels

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Speaker 1: like not just a playoff game, but an important playoff game,

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Speaker 1: a historic playoff game. There is a little extramental baggage

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Speaker 1: for players when they get to that level. Next year,

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Speaker 1: when the Bills get back there, they're gonna feel more

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Speaker 1: comfortable doing it. The Chiefs have been to three of

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Speaker 1: them in a row. There are they are good. It

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Speaker 1: was nothing to them and they showed it. They played

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Speaker 1: their best football in eight or ten weeks on the

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Speaker 1: night of the AFC Championship Game. There's no doubt about it.

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Speaker 1: Their best game of the last twelve weeks of the

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Speaker 1: season playoffs included, was in the AFC Championship game, no

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Speaker 1: doubt about it. Might have been the best game they

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Speaker 1: played all season. It was not the best game the

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Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills put together all season wasn't even one of

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Speaker 1: the top five, top ten. That's what you've got to

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Speaker 1: make sure next year if you if the Bills do that,

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01:19:08,520 --> 01:19:13,800
Speaker 1: they'll win that game. So don't reinvent the way you

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Speaker 1: look at the Buffalo Bills because they lost by two

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01:19:15,920 --> 01:19:17,920
Speaker 1: touchdowns in a game on a day they didn't play well.

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Speaker 1: That's how sharp the league is. That's how hard it

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Speaker 1: is to win. You get a good team, you gotta

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01:19:22,760 --> 01:19:25,960
Speaker 1: play well, and even if you play well, doesn't guarantee victory.

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Speaker 1: But I'm telling you right now, don't think that the

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Speaker 1: Chiefs are unreachable. Right now. You just gotta play good

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01:19:32,200 --> 01:19:35,960
Speaker 1: on that day. The last caption that I liked was

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Speaker 1: from Great White Snark in captioning this get up set

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Speaker 1: where three of the four analysts picked the Bills as

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Speaker 1: the greatest threat two the Chiefs in the AFC, Great

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Speaker 1: White Snarks says, ESPN finally catches up to what everybody

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Speaker 1: else already knows. Well, there you go, hashtag irrelevant. Ouch.

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Speaker 1: Oh wow, Okay, so some people bringing the fire here

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Speaker 1: on the tweet machine love it. We're also talking about

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Speaker 1: the position group that has you most excited we're most

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01:20:15,080 --> 01:20:19,200
Speaker 1: encouraged about going into the twenty twenty one season. The

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Speaker 1: overwhelming responses have been O, line D, line wide receiver.

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Speaker 1: There have been some outlier choices, but to this point,

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Speaker 1: those three have carried the day, I would say for

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Speaker 1: the most part. And we can check some more of

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Speaker 1: the responses here The Violet Wanderers tweet defensive line hands down.

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Speaker 1: With our additions in the draft, we will see huge

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Speaker 1: strides in our run defense. Now, we haven't talked about that, Steve,

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Speaker 1: because we've talked about the pass rush and how we

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Speaker 1: feel these young defensive ends along with aj Epinessa in

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Speaker 1: his second season, you know, may help bolster the pass

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Speaker 1: us and its effectiveness from down to down or series

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Speaker 1: to series. But we really haven't outlined how these editions

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Speaker 1: may possibly help the run defense as well. We already

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Speaker 1: know Star Is is a help coming back from his

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Speaker 1: opt out year. Your guy Justin Zimmer, who knows could

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Speaker 1: be in the mix there and play a rotational role

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Speaker 1: of sorts. Vernon butler Um there's another big body like Stars,

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Speaker 1: Ye Star is gonna help. Stars was a former first

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Speaker 1: round draft pick. He's got a lot of skill and

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Speaker 1: he's got a lot of ability. He's a good player

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Speaker 1: even at his age, at thirty two or thirty three two. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and he will help on a hand on every early

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Speaker 1: down run. And I said this earlier in the show, Brownie.

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Speaker 1: If the run defense is improved with guys like star

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Speaker 1: Lute Levern and Butler and at Oliver and you know

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01:21:56,360 --> 01:21:59,759
Speaker 1: Harrison and Justin Zimmer, if that run defense has improved

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Speaker 1: down on inside, the past defense will improve automatically because

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Speaker 1: they're gonna have more third and longs to throwing. I'm

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01:22:06,479 --> 01:22:09,960
Speaker 1: really curious to see how much they because they talked

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Speaker 1: about the position versatility of Greg Russeau and Boogie Bash

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Speaker 1: and both of whom lined up inside in college from

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Speaker 1: time to time. Heck, Greg Rousseau, one of the biggest

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Speaker 1: reasons he had fifteen and a half sacks and nineteen

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Speaker 1: and a half tackles for loss in his one year

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Speaker 1: as a starter at Miami is because he lined up

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Speaker 1: over the guard in the center sometimes and his length

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Speaker 1: just beat those guys because they were just flat out

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Speaker 1: shorter and not as long right and the pocket was

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Speaker 1: collapsed around him, and he had he had some He

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Speaker 1: had a lot of effort sacks, no question about it.

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Speaker 1: Secondhand sacks, tackles when the quarterback broke down and tried

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Speaker 1: to run, and Rousseau just swiped his heel from behind. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I guys don't think it's going to be as easy

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Speaker 1: at this level, no, to win inside, particularly inside. Yeah,

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01:22:53,280 --> 01:22:56,920
Speaker 1: there's not going to be as much space, and they're

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Speaker 1: going to anchor better than the guys at the lower level. Right,

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Speaker 1: And he was doing that at two forty five. Now

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Speaker 1: he'll get some help from his extra twenty pounds a muscle,

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty five pounds a muscle he's gotten now that

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Speaker 1: he didn't have two years ago. He still looks lean. Well,

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Speaker 1: he's so tall, he's always gonna look lean. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: mean he's twenty one years old. He'd be the guy

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Speaker 1: would weigh three to sixty if he wasn't lean, you know,

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01:23:19,280 --> 01:23:21,719
Speaker 1: you'd have to weigh three sixty to look thick. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And then there's Bash him, who does look thick at

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Speaker 1: six three two eighty but still has the explosiveness off

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01:23:28,880 --> 01:23:31,760
Speaker 1: the edge. But I could see him being used down

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Speaker 1: inside and an obvious passing down. I mean, you want

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01:23:34,320 --> 01:23:36,519
Speaker 1: to talk about explosiveness, Put him in oliver next to

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Speaker 1: each other inside on the path happen these preseason rankings

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Speaker 1: as well. I mean, you look at him and sometimes

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01:23:42,200 --> 01:23:44,800
Speaker 1: it strikes me as very odd that, like plays like

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01:23:44,840 --> 01:23:46,880
Speaker 1: Pro Football Focus and Ben Lindsay's coming on at the

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Speaker 1: top of the hour, they'll they'll rank and they'll have

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Speaker 1: these teams that are like, yeah, their secondary is way better,

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01:23:52,760 --> 01:23:56,960
Speaker 1: but they've got three new guys on it. But we

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Speaker 1: don't you know, And how do you know that secondary

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01:23:59,640 --> 01:24:02,200
Speaker 1: he's gonna be better when three of the four guys

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01:24:02,240 --> 01:24:05,120
Speaker 1: are different. Yeah, you don't know how it's gonna fit.

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Speaker 1: And certainly they were those were good players with other teams,

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01:24:07,680 --> 01:24:10,000
Speaker 1: or they have some some credentials that that bring they

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Speaker 1: bring with them, but that I don't know that those

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Speaker 1: guarantees can be made or that the projections can be

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Speaker 1: made when you've shuffled that many pieces and you've got

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01:24:18,080 --> 01:24:20,760
Speaker 1: guys who have never met before a month ago. Yeah,

1438
01:24:21,040 --> 01:24:23,680
Speaker 1: So it's interesting to me and I'll be interesting to

1439
01:24:23,760 --> 01:24:26,000
Speaker 1: see how they break that down, because that's got to

1440
01:24:26,120 --> 01:24:31,920
Speaker 1: be there's got to be a level of comfort that

1441
01:24:32,040 --> 01:24:34,639
Speaker 1: doesn't exist when you play with guys who you don't

1442
01:24:34,720 --> 01:24:38,479
Speaker 1: know from crick on the tweed sheet, he says. Qb

1443
01:24:38,760 --> 01:24:41,880
Speaker 1: Room how many QB rooms do you know with two

1444
01:24:42,000 --> 01:24:44,600
Speaker 1: quarterbacks with thirty plus starts each and both with a

1445
01:24:44,720 --> 01:24:50,560
Speaker 1: career winning record. I'd have to do some digging, but

1446
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Speaker 1: I can't imagine there's there are too many. Yeah, there's

1447
01:24:54,040 --> 01:24:55,560
Speaker 1: not too many that have too many guys who have

1448
01:24:55,640 --> 01:24:59,240
Speaker 1: started games. You can look thirty plus starts. I don't

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Speaker 1: think there's a lot of them at all. Wow. Maybe

1450
01:25:02,320 --> 01:25:04,960
Speaker 1: in history there probably right, I'm just saying right now.

1451
01:25:05,040 --> 01:25:09,360
Speaker 1: In the league Baltimore, maybe with his RG three still there,

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01:25:09,560 --> 01:25:11,600
Speaker 1: he might have over thirty starts. Don't know if he

1453
01:25:11,680 --> 01:25:17,280
Speaker 1: has a winning record though, Houston with Tyrod if you count,

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01:25:17,360 --> 01:25:21,040
Speaker 1: if you count de John, Yeah, I suppose who's backing

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01:25:21,120 --> 01:25:25,040
Speaker 1: up Russ Wilson in Seattle it's Geno Smith. That's a

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Speaker 1: no for a winning record? Yeah, wow, okay, sorry, what

1457
01:25:30,160 --> 01:25:36,400
Speaker 1: about Chicago State? In fact, what about Chicago with Union Dalton? Well,

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Speaker 1: are you accounting his foals still there? I got a

1459
01:25:39,200 --> 01:25:43,439
Speaker 1: chance he is he is? Okay, Yeah, they might both.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. Well, Dalton got to enough playoff appearances.

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Speaker 1: I would surmise he has a winning record in his career.

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Speaker 1: He definitely has played over thirty games. Yea so two

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01:25:53,160 --> 01:25:54,760
Speaker 1: has folds. I just don't know if he has the

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01:25:54,800 --> 01:25:58,479
Speaker 1: winning record to go along with that. Justin Fields incidentally

1465
01:25:58,560 --> 01:26:02,800
Speaker 1: signed his UH rookie contract today, so that one's done.

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Speaker 1: He's gonna get on the field fast. Yeah, he'll be

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Speaker 1: on the field before we're out of September. I think

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01:26:09,880 --> 01:26:14,560
Speaker 1: really it's Naggie and GM Ryan. They know they have

1469
01:26:14,800 --> 01:26:18,439
Speaker 1: to win this year, and if Rogers is not playing,

1470
01:26:19,000 --> 01:26:23,439
Speaker 1: the door is wide open to win some games and

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01:26:23,600 --> 01:26:25,280
Speaker 1: maybe even make a run of the division if you

1472
01:26:25,320 --> 01:26:30,519
Speaker 1: can demonstrate some measure of competency. I know you're you're

1473
01:26:30,560 --> 01:26:37,360
Speaker 1: not a fan. It's an atrocity. Chicago and Detroit, those

1474
01:26:37,400 --> 01:26:40,240
Speaker 1: are two organizations that they don't care if they ever

1475
01:26:40,360 --> 01:26:43,320
Speaker 1: win a game, you still make money in the NFL.

1476
01:26:43,560 --> 01:26:47,840
Speaker 1: That's the thing. They were in huge cities, Chicago in particular. Yeah,

1477
01:26:48,479 --> 01:26:52,320
Speaker 1: and they are every once in a while, like they

1478
01:26:52,400 --> 01:26:55,120
Speaker 1: did three years ago. They're twelve and four. They're relevant.

1479
01:26:55,560 --> 01:26:59,880
Speaker 1: They get relevant one year at a time, and they

1480
01:27:00,080 --> 01:27:04,160
Speaker 1: did just disappear for long. Pressure is on now for

1481
01:27:04,280 --> 01:27:07,720
Speaker 1: them for sure. I mean they Naggie and Pace have

1482
01:27:07,880 --> 01:27:11,880
Speaker 1: to win this year and they know it. You think, yeah,

1483
01:27:11,920 --> 01:27:14,919
Speaker 1: I think so. If they don't go to the playoffs,

1484
01:27:15,000 --> 01:27:19,679
Speaker 1: I think they're gone and then they just recycle again. Okay,

1485
01:27:21,120 --> 01:27:24,400
Speaker 1: so I think that would I think that would Minnesota. Yeah,

1486
01:27:26,520 --> 01:27:28,559
Speaker 1: Mike Zimmer went up there, had had a little stretch

1487
01:27:28,680 --> 01:27:31,960
Speaker 1: right at the beginning, and it's just it's just gone away. Yeah,

1488
01:27:33,280 --> 01:27:35,639
Speaker 1: they have talent up there. It just couldn't find a quarterback.

1489
01:27:35,680 --> 01:27:39,360
Speaker 1: They saddle themselves because its has great stats every year.

1490
01:27:39,560 --> 01:27:42,120
Speaker 1: The problem is he just doesn't win enough games. It's

1491
01:27:42,160 --> 01:27:45,360
Speaker 1: got great, great stats, but the one lost column is

1492
01:27:45,400 --> 01:27:49,000
Speaker 1: not one of his better statistical categories. The Mirosov Shaitan

1493
01:27:49,320 --> 01:27:53,960
Speaker 1: of the Oh look at Steve, you know, making hockey

1494
01:27:54,000 --> 01:27:56,600
Speaker 1: analogies and love it, throwing for one hundred yards in

1495
01:27:56,680 --> 01:27:58,720
Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty yards in the fourth quarter when

1496
01:27:58,760 --> 01:28:03,920
Speaker 1: you're down thirty, you know that kind of thing. I'm okay,

1497
01:28:04,000 --> 01:28:08,080
Speaker 1: all right, I'm I'm done with your NFC North bashing soapbox.

1498
01:28:08,920 --> 01:28:14,839
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers. Aaron Rodgers is the flag bearer, the cherry

1499
01:28:14,920 --> 01:28:18,080
Speaker 1: on top of a pile of dung for that whole day. Wow,

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01:28:18,760 --> 01:28:21,519
Speaker 1: Steve is bringing the heat today on the NFC North.

1501
01:28:21,600 --> 01:28:23,680
Speaker 1: He gives him. He's the only thing that makes that

1502
01:28:24,439 --> 01:28:27,360
Speaker 1: deck the And it was Barry Sanders when he was there. Yeah,

1503
01:28:27,479 --> 01:28:31,479
Speaker 1: now that Matt Stafford's gone, it's like it's a miracle

1504
01:28:31,560 --> 01:28:34,240
Speaker 1: Wayne Fonts did as well as he did. There isn't it.

1505
01:28:34,520 --> 01:28:37,000
Speaker 1: Wayne Fonts has a better winning record as a head

1506
01:28:37,040 --> 01:28:40,720
Speaker 1: coach than Bill Belichick does without Tom Brady. Yes he does.

1507
01:28:40,800 --> 01:28:45,040
Speaker 1: We found that out last week. Amazing. Way to go Wayne,

1508
01:28:45,760 --> 01:28:48,880
Speaker 1: gotta go Wayne, but we have to take a bread job.

1509
01:28:48,960 --> 01:28:50,840
Speaker 1: We'll be back in a second with more, including more

1510
01:28:50,840 --> 01:28:53,040
Speaker 1: of your comments on the tweet sheet, Ben Lindsay Pro

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01:28:53,160 --> 01:28:56,240
Speaker 1: Football Focus coming up in about fifteen minutes. Stay tuned

1512
01:28:56,280 --> 01:28:58,160
Speaker 1: here on One Bill's Live, presented by Kalid to Health.

1513
01:28:58,200 --> 01:29:14,040
Speaker 1: It's Buffalo Bill's Radio. See Steve. We were having this

1514
01:29:14,200 --> 01:29:18,280
Speaker 1: discussion yesterday with Neil Reynolds from NFL UK about the

1515
01:29:18,360 --> 01:29:25,160
Speaker 1: possibility of future NFL regular season games being staged in Germany,

1516
01:29:26,120 --> 01:29:31,720
Speaker 1: and there were some Packers fans that got wise to

1517
01:29:31,800 --> 01:29:34,840
Speaker 1: this as well, and the following suggestion was made on

1518
01:29:35,000 --> 01:29:39,800
Speaker 1: Twitter if the NFL holds games in Germany, let us

1519
01:29:39,880 --> 01:29:42,719
Speaker 1: be the first to suggest the Packers versus the Bills

1520
01:29:42,840 --> 01:29:48,560
Speaker 1: in Munich during Octoberfest, to which I responded, well, that

1521
01:29:48,600 --> 01:29:51,799
Speaker 1: would be some kind of tailgate am I right, Bills Mafia?

1522
01:29:52,400 --> 01:29:56,280
Speaker 1: And they responded, shall we say here are some of

1523
01:29:56,320 --> 01:29:59,840
Speaker 1: the responses. First time ever Germany runs out of b

1524
01:30:00,240 --> 01:30:05,960
Speaker 1: and brought worst. As one who has been to Octoberfest

1525
01:30:06,040 --> 01:30:10,840
Speaker 1: in Munich, it would be perfect for Bill's Mafia as

1526
01:30:10,960 --> 01:30:13,000
Speaker 1: long as it's a packer's home game. Let's not get

1527
01:30:13,040 --> 01:30:14,920
Speaker 1: rid of one of our better than anywhere in the

1528
01:30:14,960 --> 01:30:17,080
Speaker 1: world tailgate party. So there's someone that doesn't want to

1529
01:30:17,120 --> 01:30:20,400
Speaker 1: lose a Bill's home game to play in Germany. J R.

1530
01:30:20,520 --> 01:30:25,679
Speaker 1: Morrow says, count me in, and Mark liversaidge wisely points

1531
01:30:25,680 --> 01:30:31,200
Speaker 1: out to everybody, be aware that Octoberfest is actually in September.

1532
01:30:31,320 --> 01:30:34,160
Speaker 1: I did not know that. Did you know that? What's

1533
01:30:34,200 --> 01:30:38,439
Speaker 1: what he claims? In Germany Octoberfest is held at some

1534
01:30:38,560 --> 01:30:41,800
Speaker 1: point in September. I cannot. I do not know the

1535
01:30:41,920 --> 01:30:44,760
Speaker 1: veracity of that statement. I suppose we could look it up.

1536
01:30:45,840 --> 01:30:49,360
Speaker 1: Um okay, I'm I was perplexed by it. Let me

1537
01:30:49,400 --> 01:30:54,320
Speaker 1: see you you can discuss amongst yourselves, talk abunt yourself.

1538
01:30:55,360 --> 01:30:57,600
Speaker 1: I'll look it up. I'm telling you that would be

1539
01:31:00,120 --> 01:31:06,599
Speaker 1: Munich Octoberfest. Bills packers, what fun, no beer, no brought

1540
01:31:06,640 --> 01:31:09,599
Speaker 1: worst left anywhere? What fun would that be Oh my gosh,

1541
01:31:10,200 --> 01:31:12,000
Speaker 1: what fun people would make a week out of it.

1542
01:31:12,760 --> 01:31:17,120
Speaker 1: Week you have to stay a week after well, yeah,

1543
01:31:18,280 --> 01:31:20,759
Speaker 1: just to get your BAC level down. Oh my gosh,

1544
01:31:21,600 --> 01:31:24,080
Speaker 1: good for that. Yes, a great idea. It is correct.

1545
01:31:24,320 --> 01:31:29,080
Speaker 1: The majority of october Fest takes place in September, which

1546
01:31:29,160 --> 01:31:31,640
Speaker 1: makes october Fest seem like. One of the biggest misnomers

1547
01:31:31,680 --> 01:31:34,360
Speaker 1: we use all the time, is that the entire festival

1548
01:31:34,520 --> 01:31:38,759
Speaker 1: runs sixteen to eighteen days, depending on the year, most

1549
01:31:38,800 --> 01:31:42,679
Speaker 1: of them are in September. For example, in twenty nineteen,

1550
01:31:43,160 --> 01:31:48,000
Speaker 1: the dates were September twenty first to October sixth, right. Well,

1551
01:31:48,760 --> 01:31:53,160
Speaker 1: it's as october Fest has grown in popularity in Stature,

1552
01:31:53,320 --> 01:31:58,000
Speaker 1: organizers have worked backward to capitalize on September's warmer weather.

1553
01:31:58,560 --> 01:32:00,559
Speaker 1: Makes sense. I call it what you want. We're having

1554
01:32:00,560 --> 01:32:03,800
Speaker 1: it when we can get outside. I get it. I'm well,

1555
01:32:03,840 --> 01:32:05,960
Speaker 1: I'm all for it. That's fine to make it in

1556
01:32:06,520 --> 01:32:10,200
Speaker 1: late September. Let's go. Yeah, either way. I don't think

1557
01:32:10,240 --> 01:32:14,799
Speaker 1: bills or packers fans would care at all. Haven't having December.

1558
01:32:15,000 --> 01:32:17,280
Speaker 1: They don't care. They don't care. They're used to what's

1559
01:32:17,320 --> 01:32:21,200
Speaker 1: cold weather? Games? Um, But knowing how many brots are

1560
01:32:21,280 --> 01:32:25,360
Speaker 1: cooked at packers tailgates, and how much beer is consumed

1561
01:32:25,400 --> 01:32:30,720
Speaker 1: here in Buffalo. Um, yeah, I think it's a it's

1562
01:32:30,840 --> 01:32:33,560
Speaker 1: it's safe to say they would give the city of

1563
01:32:33,680 --> 01:32:36,680
Speaker 1: Munich a run for its money in terms of its supplies. Yeah,

1564
01:32:36,720 --> 01:32:39,200
Speaker 1: and they would also Yeah, it would be uh, they

1565
01:32:39,240 --> 01:32:41,799
Speaker 1: would have to look up a German a German company

1566
01:32:41,880 --> 01:32:47,040
Speaker 1: that makes folding tables. Right. I don't know if you'd

1567
01:32:47,080 --> 01:32:49,240
Speaker 1: be able to track down chicken wings. You may have

1568
01:32:49,280 --> 01:32:51,160
Speaker 1: to bring your own wings. And yeah, that'd be tough.

1569
01:32:51,520 --> 01:32:55,880
Speaker 1: I don't think those are be prevalent in the issue

1570
01:32:56,800 --> 01:32:59,479
Speaker 1: the right man. Yeah, I don't think it's prevalent there.

1571
01:33:00,120 --> 01:33:02,639
Speaker 1: That would be so fun, man. I would I played

1572
01:33:02,680 --> 01:33:07,920
Speaker 1: in a game, yes, in Berlin. Yeah, we practiced, right, Yeah,

1573
01:33:08,120 --> 01:33:12,559
Speaker 1: we practiced on the mayfield right outside of the stadium. Hm.

1574
01:33:13,439 --> 01:33:16,880
Speaker 1: Awesome trip. It was right after the wall came down.

1575
01:33:17,479 --> 01:33:19,479
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's right. Yeah, I hadn't thought about that

1576
01:33:19,600 --> 01:33:24,120
Speaker 1: and it all came down. Amazing, amazing trip because you

1577
01:33:24,320 --> 01:33:28,760
Speaker 1: you know the hotel you you know West Germany or

1578
01:33:28,840 --> 01:33:32,280
Speaker 1: West Berlin, you know you'd have hotels. You get up

1579
01:33:32,280 --> 01:33:34,240
Speaker 1: in the in the room, you look out over East

1580
01:33:34,320 --> 01:33:38,439
Speaker 1: Berlin and it was dark at night. West Berlin was like,

1581
01:33:38,640 --> 01:33:41,040
Speaker 1: you know, it's like Vegas, right, it's all it up

1582
01:33:41,080 --> 01:33:44,320
Speaker 1: and he's gott street lights and signs and places open.

1583
01:33:44,560 --> 01:33:47,360
Speaker 1: West and East Berlin was just like dark, like it

1584
01:33:47,640 --> 01:33:51,639
Speaker 1: could have been a lake, you know at night, there's

1585
01:33:51,680 --> 01:33:54,200
Speaker 1: nothing out there. And we went over and went to

1586
01:33:54,280 --> 01:33:57,160
Speaker 1: a couple of restaurants in the old side in East Berlin.

1587
01:33:57,439 --> 01:34:00,240
Speaker 1: We went into a restaurant over there. Very different. Yeah,

1588
01:34:00,240 --> 01:34:01,880
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, was it still a different world

1589
01:34:01,960 --> 01:34:03,600
Speaker 1: only two a little bit different from a little bit

1590
01:34:03,640 --> 01:34:09,600
Speaker 1: different world? Different? You know, everything was gray, wow, you

1591
01:34:09,680 --> 01:34:14,280
Speaker 1: know that, including the food, well, the service was the

1592
01:34:14,360 --> 01:34:20,280
Speaker 1: service was kind of anywhere. Yeah. It was very spartan

1593
01:34:20,360 --> 01:34:23,479
Speaker 1: conditions so to speak. I mean it wasn't you know,

1594
01:34:23,520 --> 01:34:25,280
Speaker 1: it wasn't a Third War country and it wasn't like,

1595
01:34:25,840 --> 01:34:27,479
Speaker 1: you know, bombed out or anything like that. I mean

1596
01:34:27,520 --> 01:34:32,560
Speaker 1: it was it was just austere, very much, very much so.

1597
01:34:32,960 --> 01:34:38,479
Speaker 1: And it was strange, um but so awesome. Yeah, so awesome.

1598
01:34:38,520 --> 01:34:40,800
Speaker 1: What a city. Yeah, it was great. That was fun.

1599
01:34:40,840 --> 01:34:43,240
Speaker 1: Try and I think they'll I think they'll get games

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01:34:43,280 --> 01:34:45,680
Speaker 1: there in the very near future. I mean, Germany is

1601
01:34:46,200 --> 01:34:49,439
Speaker 1: I don't want to to say an NFL mad City,

1602
01:34:49,520 --> 01:34:52,519
Speaker 1: but they are into their American football. And after we

1603
01:34:52,640 --> 01:34:55,760
Speaker 1: looked it up, I mean I had remembered two UH

1604
01:34:56,280 --> 01:35:00,040
Speaker 1: teams based in Germany, Frankfurt and Berlin. Yeah, but we

1605
01:35:00,080 --> 01:35:03,200
Speaker 1: were up to five in NFL Europe at one point

1606
01:35:03,240 --> 01:35:05,960
Speaker 1: in time, ye Hamburg and a couple of other cities.

1607
01:35:06,000 --> 01:35:08,559
Speaker 1: Colley on that though Bills fans, we may be in Germany,

1608
01:35:08,720 --> 01:35:10,880
Speaker 1: that would be great. I'd be all four. That'd be

1609
01:35:11,000 --> 01:35:14,519
Speaker 1: great at the great time for us here when we return.

1610
01:35:14,560 --> 01:35:17,559
Speaker 1: It's Pro Football focuses Ben Lindsay, who had some very

1611
01:35:17,760 --> 01:35:23,559
Speaker 1: favorable rankings for the Bills secondary and Buffalo's offensive play caller.

1612
01:35:23,840 --> 01:35:25,720
Speaker 1: We'll talk to him about that when we return here.

1613
01:35:25,760 --> 01:35:27,960
Speaker 1: On one Bill's Line, presented by Collid to Health, It's

1614
01:35:27,960 --> 01:35:49,479
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bill's Radio at a Steve Tasker who has been

1615
01:35:49,560 --> 01:35:51,800
Speaker 1: all over the fields. Kind of unique. He was kind

1616
01:35:51,800 --> 01:35:57,439
Speaker 1: of a dual role player for you, Steve, Steve a blimp.

1617
01:35:58,280 --> 01:36:04,719
Speaker 1: We're not even in the strategy of normalcy here. Welcome

1618
01:36:04,720 --> 01:36:07,280
Speaker 1: to our number three one Bill's Live here on a Thursday.

1619
01:36:07,400 --> 01:36:10,840
Speaker 1: Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you and pleased at this

1620
01:36:10,960 --> 01:36:14,519
Speaker 1: time to be joined by Pro Football Focus analyst contributing

1621
01:36:14,560 --> 01:36:17,519
Speaker 1: producer to NBC's Sunday Night Football. It is one Ben

1622
01:36:17,680 --> 01:36:20,240
Speaker 1: Lindsay joining us on the show. Ben, thanks for giving

1623
01:36:20,320 --> 01:36:22,719
Speaker 1: us some time here. We're kind of entering we're close

1624
01:36:22,800 --> 01:36:25,320
Speaker 1: to entering the dead period of the football calendar, but

1625
01:36:25,720 --> 01:36:28,080
Speaker 1: still got some mandatory mini camps left next week, So

1626
01:36:28,560 --> 01:36:30,800
Speaker 1: thanks for spending some time with us. We appreciate it,

1627
01:36:31,800 --> 01:36:34,800
Speaker 1: no problem. Thanks for having me on. Guys. Yeah, how

1628
01:36:34,880 --> 01:36:37,040
Speaker 1: hard is he got to rank all thirty two teams?

1629
01:36:37,040 --> 01:36:38,240
Speaker 1: And one of the things I was going to ask

1630
01:36:38,280 --> 01:36:40,360
Speaker 1: you right off the top, you guys have some problems,

1631
01:36:41,000 --> 01:36:44,080
Speaker 1: not just evaluating the secondaries, but guys move around. How

1632
01:36:44,120 --> 01:36:46,639
Speaker 1: do you evaluate a secondary that may have two brand

1633
01:36:46,720 --> 01:36:49,479
Speaker 1: new guys on it or a draft pick included who's

1634
01:36:49,720 --> 01:36:52,480
Speaker 1: destined to start. How do you rank those in comparison

1635
01:36:52,520 --> 01:36:55,639
Speaker 1: to a team like like Buffalo, who's got four guys

1636
01:36:55,680 --> 01:36:57,200
Speaker 1: that are probably going to be back on the field

1637
01:36:57,240 --> 01:37:01,000
Speaker 1: for them again on a really good secondary to begin with. Yeah,

1638
01:37:01,240 --> 01:37:04,880
Speaker 1: it's tough because it's not as easy as simply this

1639
01:37:05,080 --> 01:37:08,000
Speaker 1: guy was this good at his previous team that that's

1640
01:37:08,040 --> 01:37:09,559
Speaker 1: how good he's going to be in his new team.

1641
01:37:09,560 --> 01:37:13,600
Speaker 1: When you're talking about changing schemes, changing responsibilities, so it

1642
01:37:13,800 --> 01:37:17,920
Speaker 1: so it's kind of tricky to plug in place those guys.

1643
01:37:18,520 --> 01:37:20,240
Speaker 1: But I think in general, you're just trying to look

1644
01:37:20,280 --> 01:37:23,680
Speaker 1: at at how much talent you add and how well

1645
01:37:23,760 --> 01:37:26,800
Speaker 1: they fit what that defense wants to do, and try

1646
01:37:26,840 --> 01:37:29,360
Speaker 1: to make those mental adjustments when you're projecting forward in

1647
01:37:29,400 --> 01:37:32,080
Speaker 1: the next season. But it's it's like you said, it's

1648
01:37:32,120 --> 01:37:34,720
Speaker 1: it's not an easy thing to do. Nevertheless, you had

1649
01:37:34,960 --> 01:37:39,200
Speaker 1: the Bill's secondary ranked fourth on your list, So maybe

1650
01:37:39,280 --> 01:37:41,600
Speaker 1: tell us what were some of the redeeming qualities of

1651
01:37:42,360 --> 01:37:45,080
Speaker 1: Buffalo's group back there that had you ranked them in

1652
01:37:45,120 --> 01:37:48,760
Speaker 1: the top five. Yeah. I mean, obviously it starts with

1653
01:37:49,120 --> 01:37:53,200
Speaker 1: Tredavious White and the two safeties Jordan Poy or Micah Hyde.

1654
01:37:53,560 --> 01:37:56,400
Speaker 1: All of them are are high end talents at their position,

1655
01:37:57,040 --> 01:37:59,000
Speaker 1: and when you have three guys like that, that's more

1656
01:37:59,040 --> 01:38:02,160
Speaker 1: than a lot of secondaries have. And then the other

1657
01:38:02,280 --> 01:38:05,720
Speaker 1: thing is there's not really a weak spot in the secondary.

1658
01:38:05,800 --> 01:38:08,840
Speaker 1: I know the second cornerback spot could potentially be viewed

1659
01:38:08,880 --> 01:38:11,000
Speaker 1: as an area where they could upgrade, but Levi Wallace

1660
01:38:11,040 --> 01:38:14,799
Speaker 1: has been solid in Buffalo. I know they liked Dan Jackson.

1661
01:38:14,880 --> 01:38:18,400
Speaker 1: He performs well when he was asked to last season,

1662
01:38:18,640 --> 01:38:20,639
Speaker 1: and then to Ron Johnson in the slide, another guy

1663
01:38:21,080 --> 01:38:23,960
Speaker 1: who has given them solid play. And when you're looking

1664
01:38:24,000 --> 01:38:26,439
Speaker 1: at a secondaries across the NFL, these offenses are getting

1665
01:38:26,479 --> 01:38:29,040
Speaker 1: better and better at picking on weak points, and I

1666
01:38:29,240 --> 01:38:32,360
Speaker 1: don't think the Buffalo Bills really have a glaring one

1667
01:38:32,439 --> 01:38:35,679
Speaker 1: that teams can attack. When you talk about the Bills secondary,

1668
01:38:35,760 --> 01:38:40,519
Speaker 1: they play nickel almost exclusively. That's their base defense. Really,

1669
01:38:40,520 --> 01:38:42,160
Speaker 1: I guess we could say, are there other teams in

1670
01:38:42,200 --> 01:38:46,040
Speaker 1: the NFL who don't do it that much? And why no?

1671
01:38:46,479 --> 01:38:49,760
Speaker 1: I mean, when you're looking at the league and all

1672
01:38:49,800 --> 01:38:52,519
Speaker 1: the teams, all the defenses in the NFL and nickel defense,

1673
01:38:52,720 --> 01:38:55,000
Speaker 1: pretty much every team is playing nickel defense over fifty

1674
01:38:55,000 --> 01:38:57,960
Speaker 1: percent of the time. We charted last year that the

1675
01:38:58,080 --> 01:39:01,080
Speaker 1: Jacksonville Jaguars led the league in base defense, which is

1676
01:39:01,320 --> 01:39:05,800
Speaker 1: four defensive backs at thirty nine. So these defenses are

1677
01:39:05,840 --> 01:39:08,639
Speaker 1: moving away from that and you're seeing five six defensive

1678
01:39:08,680 --> 01:39:11,200
Speaker 1: backs on the field for the majority of steps. And

1679
01:39:11,360 --> 01:39:14,840
Speaker 1: then Ben we saw last offseason, not this one, but

1680
01:39:14,920 --> 01:39:16,960
Speaker 1: the previous one, the Bills made a lot of high

1681
01:39:17,160 --> 01:39:23,840
Speaker 1: volume changes on their defensive line had mixed results upfront. Defensively,

1682
01:39:24,280 --> 01:39:27,160
Speaker 1: last year, they went high volume again with the d

1683
01:39:27,280 --> 01:39:30,120
Speaker 1: line this year, particularly on the edge, as you well

1684
01:39:30,200 --> 01:39:32,160
Speaker 1: know with their top two draft choices. I know they

1685
01:39:32,200 --> 01:39:37,240
Speaker 1: also picked up fa Obata from Carolina. You've got them

1686
01:39:37,320 --> 01:39:41,160
Speaker 1: seventeenth among your defensive lines, but the jury is very

1687
01:39:41,240 --> 01:39:43,519
Speaker 1: much out. Much to Steve's point in his first question,

1688
01:39:44,320 --> 01:39:46,439
Speaker 1: you really just don't know how all this is gonna fit.

1689
01:39:46,600 --> 01:39:51,120
Speaker 1: Let alone, You've got two rookies who are unproven exactly.

1690
01:39:51,720 --> 01:39:54,000
Speaker 1: I know they added a lot of talent this offseason

1691
01:39:54,080 --> 01:39:58,679
Speaker 1: with Rousseau, with Basham, and you got guys like Start

1692
01:39:58,760 --> 01:40:02,519
Speaker 1: Lucile coming back. So I think there's a chance that

1693
01:40:02,600 --> 01:40:05,040
Speaker 1: they could be better than that seventeenth ranking. It's just

1694
01:40:05,120 --> 01:40:07,680
Speaker 1: hard to say exactly. I will say that Rousseau and

1695
01:40:07,920 --> 01:40:10,439
Speaker 1: Bash them. I like that both of those guys can

1696
01:40:10,479 --> 01:40:13,880
Speaker 1: play both inside and outside. You can argue that Rousseau

1697
01:40:14,120 --> 01:40:15,800
Speaker 1: that was where he did the most damage in twenty

1698
01:40:15,920 --> 01:40:18,000
Speaker 1: nineteen at Miami when he was able to come inside

1699
01:40:18,080 --> 01:40:20,960
Speaker 1: lineup over guards. I think them being able to move

1700
01:40:21,000 --> 01:40:23,840
Speaker 1: those guys around a little bit is going to help

1701
01:40:23,880 --> 01:40:26,720
Speaker 1: the defensive line and keep guys fresh. Are you on

1702
01:40:26,840 --> 01:40:29,080
Speaker 1: the side and I've we've talked to your you know

1703
01:40:29,160 --> 01:40:31,640
Speaker 1: Polozolo and all those guys that pro football folks, and

1704
01:40:31,720 --> 01:40:34,599
Speaker 1: there they've always it's always been a common fan opinion

1705
01:40:34,720 --> 01:40:37,040
Speaker 1: that the pass rush is what gets your defense to

1706
01:40:37,120 --> 01:40:40,040
Speaker 1: the top of the rankings and all that. And Polosolo says, listen,

1707
01:40:40,080 --> 01:40:41,880
Speaker 1: if you want to pass defense, it starts with your

1708
01:40:41,920 --> 01:40:45,120
Speaker 1: secondary before it starts with your pass rush. That is

1709
01:40:45,160 --> 01:40:48,439
Speaker 1: that still holding true? And I know because fans get

1710
01:40:48,479 --> 01:40:51,760
Speaker 1: their stereotypes nothing but enforced. When they see Tampa Bay

1711
01:40:51,880 --> 01:40:53,719
Speaker 1: do what they did to the Chiefs in the Super Bowl,

1712
01:40:53,960 --> 01:40:56,519
Speaker 1: it was all about their pass rush and forgetting about

1713
01:40:56,520 --> 01:40:59,800
Speaker 1: the fact that both tackles were out of the game. Yeah,

1714
01:40:59,840 --> 01:41:03,280
Speaker 1: and Tampa Bay's secondary is quietly one of the better

1715
01:41:03,360 --> 01:41:05,920
Speaker 1: secondaries in the NFL. In my opinion, the two have

1716
01:41:06,120 --> 01:41:09,519
Speaker 1: a they have a symbiotic relationship. If your pass rush

1717
01:41:09,680 --> 01:41:11,880
Speaker 1: is winning, it's going to help your coverage. If guys

1718
01:41:11,880 --> 01:41:14,160
Speaker 1: aren't open, it's going to help your pass rush. We've

1719
01:41:14,280 --> 01:41:17,679
Speaker 1: generally found that coverage is more valuable than pass rush

1720
01:41:18,200 --> 01:41:21,000
Speaker 1: um but it's pass rush is easier to rely on

1721
01:41:21,080 --> 01:41:23,479
Speaker 1: from year to year. Those those premier edge rushers, the

1722
01:41:23,560 --> 01:41:26,760
Speaker 1: Joey Bosa's, the Khalil Max, t J. Watt Uh, those

1723
01:41:26,840 --> 01:41:30,120
Speaker 1: guys are going to be more consistent from year to

1724
01:41:30,240 --> 01:41:33,599
Speaker 1: year than the lockdown corner base. Is your secondary coverage

1725
01:41:33,720 --> 01:41:38,120
Speaker 1: more valuable because it's more rare or is it more

1726
01:41:38,200 --> 01:41:41,040
Speaker 1: valuable because it's more important you get you get the differentiation?

1727
01:41:41,160 --> 01:41:43,320
Speaker 1: I mean, is it you know what I'm saying? Which

1728
01:41:43,439 --> 01:41:47,960
Speaker 1: is it? I think it's it's because it's more rare. Um,

1729
01:41:48,520 --> 01:41:51,720
Speaker 1: it's harder to find guys who can who can lock

1730
01:41:51,840 --> 01:41:55,600
Speaker 1: down receivers and man coverage or take away side of

1731
01:41:55,640 --> 01:41:58,559
Speaker 1: the field and zone, whereas pass rush it's a little

1732
01:41:58,560 --> 01:42:02,120
Speaker 1: bit easier to ski up. I think, Um, you look

1733
01:42:02,160 --> 01:42:05,360
Speaker 1: at a team like like the Ravens, who have who

1734
01:42:05,400 --> 01:42:07,479
Speaker 1: have been able to have some of the highest press

1735
01:42:07,600 --> 01:42:10,439
Speaker 1: rates in the NFL over the last few years because

1736
01:42:10,680 --> 01:42:12,840
Speaker 1: of the blitz as they run, the stunts, those kinds

1737
01:42:12,880 --> 01:42:15,360
Speaker 1: of things, and the fact that they have Marlon Humphrey,

1738
01:42:15,400 --> 01:42:17,760
Speaker 1: they have Marcus Peters, guys who they can leave out

1739
01:42:17,760 --> 01:42:20,360
Speaker 1: there in man coverage when they bring extra rushers. I

1740
01:42:20,520 --> 01:42:24,080
Speaker 1: know that. Um, you've recently been put a list of

1741
01:42:25,240 --> 01:42:28,680
Speaker 1: some cornerbacks that are still free agents out there on

1742
01:42:28,840 --> 01:42:31,720
Speaker 1: your list of you know, guys could still be had

1743
01:42:31,920 --> 01:42:35,000
Speaker 1: here late in the game. Um, there was some thought

1744
01:42:35,200 --> 01:42:37,920
Speaker 1: that after the Bills cleared some scap cap space with

1745
01:42:38,040 --> 01:42:41,040
Speaker 1: the restructure of Diggs contract, that maybe they're looking to

1746
01:42:41,080 --> 01:42:44,320
Speaker 1: add somebody, perhaps a corner to add to the CBE

1747
01:42:44,400 --> 01:42:49,280
Speaker 1: two competition. Um, you mentioned Sherman, you mentioned Nelson. I

1748
01:42:49,360 --> 01:42:53,240
Speaker 1: think Bischad Breland is still out there if memory serves so. Um,

1749
01:42:53,720 --> 01:42:55,519
Speaker 1: what do you make of that list and why do

1750
01:42:55,600 --> 01:42:59,439
Speaker 1: you think there are some big names still sitting out there? Yeah,

1751
01:42:59,520 --> 01:43:02,160
Speaker 1: and Brian recently signed with Minnesota. But those other two guys,

1752
01:43:02,960 --> 01:43:07,880
Speaker 1: Sherman and Steven Nelson can both definitely help and give

1753
01:43:07,960 --> 01:43:11,599
Speaker 1: them a quality option across from Tredavious White and push

1754
01:43:11,800 --> 01:43:15,920
Speaker 1: guys like Levi Wallace Dane Jackson to more death pieces. Sherman,

1755
01:43:16,320 --> 01:43:18,840
Speaker 1: there's this opinion out there that he's kind of cooked

1756
01:43:18,960 --> 01:43:21,400
Speaker 1: at this stage of his career, but the last time

1757
01:43:21,439 --> 01:43:23,680
Speaker 1: he played in twenty nineteen, played a full season. He

1758
01:43:23,760 --> 01:43:25,720
Speaker 1: was a little bit banged up last year, but in

1759
01:43:25,800 --> 01:43:28,240
Speaker 1: twenty nineteen he was one of our highest graded cornerbacks.

1760
01:43:28,560 --> 01:43:30,439
Speaker 1: He was a big part of their Super Bowl run

1761
01:43:30,800 --> 01:43:34,240
Speaker 1: in that secondary Stephen Nelson played well his final two

1762
01:43:34,320 --> 01:43:36,720
Speaker 1: years in Kansas City has been a key part of

1763
01:43:36,800 --> 01:43:39,720
Speaker 1: that Pittsburgh secondary and that defense, which has been one

1764
01:43:39,760 --> 01:43:41,960
Speaker 1: of the best defenses in the NFL the last two years.

1765
01:43:42,479 --> 01:43:44,880
Speaker 1: I think both guys are are some of the more

1766
01:43:44,960 --> 01:43:47,320
Speaker 1: impactful free agents still out there on the market. Well,

1767
01:43:47,320 --> 01:43:49,880
Speaker 1: those two corners you're talking about, Steven Nelson Richard Sherman,

1768
01:43:50,640 --> 01:43:53,720
Speaker 1: What is the best situation? What would be the best

1769
01:43:53,800 --> 01:43:56,280
Speaker 1: situation for either one of them and both of them

1770
01:43:56,479 --> 01:43:58,760
Speaker 1: given going for what kind of scheme are you looking forward?

1771
01:43:58,920 --> 01:44:01,439
Speaker 1: Are their strengths and weakness is? What kind of defense?

1772
01:44:02,120 --> 01:44:06,519
Speaker 1: What would the perfect defense for them look like? On paper? Yeah,

1773
01:44:06,720 --> 01:44:09,200
Speaker 1: for Sherman, it's it's the system that he's run his

1774
01:44:09,400 --> 01:44:12,600
Speaker 1: entire career in Seattle and then San Francisco, sort of

1775
01:44:12,640 --> 01:44:14,800
Speaker 1: that cover three heavy where he can just sort of

1776
01:44:15,400 --> 01:44:17,960
Speaker 1: take that that side of the field. I think that's

1777
01:44:18,479 --> 01:44:20,799
Speaker 1: that's ideally what you would want for him. And Stephen

1778
01:44:20,840 --> 01:44:22,920
Speaker 1: Nelson has a little bit more flexibility, but I still

1779
01:44:23,000 --> 01:44:26,000
Speaker 1: think he fits better in his own defense where he's

1780
01:44:26,040 --> 01:44:29,439
Speaker 1: not asked to really follow guys around in the uncoverage

1781
01:44:29,479 --> 01:44:32,200
Speaker 1: or anything like that. And then I don't know, Ben,

1782
01:44:32,400 --> 01:44:36,280
Speaker 1: We're talking to Ben Lindsay, pro Football Focus analyst, and

1783
01:44:37,040 --> 01:44:39,800
Speaker 1: you know you were talking recently about in a piece

1784
01:44:39,880 --> 01:44:42,200
Speaker 1: that you put together about the Steelers offense and how

1785
01:44:42,240 --> 01:44:45,280
Speaker 1: it's got to evolve under Matt Canada, who's yet another

1786
01:44:45,320 --> 01:44:49,320
Speaker 1: new offensive coordinator for them, and the Bills are facing

1787
01:44:49,400 --> 01:44:52,080
Speaker 1: them in Week one. I mean it's the season opener

1788
01:44:52,160 --> 01:44:56,960
Speaker 1: for Buffalo. They've had to retool their offensive line. I

1789
01:44:57,160 --> 01:45:00,599
Speaker 1: don't know that it's demonstrably better than last year. I mean,

1790
01:45:00,720 --> 01:45:02,360
Speaker 1: they got a lot of ducks to put in a

1791
01:45:02,479 --> 01:45:05,479
Speaker 1: row here before the start of the season. What is

1792
01:45:05,520 --> 01:45:08,679
Speaker 1: your level of confidence that it's going to be anywhere

1793
01:45:09,040 --> 01:45:11,760
Speaker 1: near a well oiled machine in Week one, because I

1794
01:45:12,000 --> 01:45:15,360
Speaker 1: kind of see that as advantage Buffalo right now. Yeah,

1795
01:45:15,560 --> 01:45:18,519
Speaker 1: you have to. I think it's it's difficult to see

1796
01:45:19,680 --> 01:45:23,120
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh coming out in Week one all systems go firing

1797
01:45:23,160 --> 01:45:26,240
Speaker 1: all cylinders, just based on the turnover they have and

1798
01:45:26,520 --> 01:45:29,519
Speaker 1: how they finished last season. They needed to retool the

1799
01:45:29,560 --> 01:45:32,920
Speaker 1: offensive line, but you're relying on guys who have very

1800
01:45:33,000 --> 01:45:36,120
Speaker 1: little experience At Zach Banner a core of four started

1801
01:45:36,160 --> 01:45:39,679
Speaker 1: one year. Dotson. They're gonna start Kendrick Green, a rookie

1802
01:45:39,760 --> 01:45:42,880
Speaker 1: at center. So there's some potential for it to be

1803
01:45:43,000 --> 01:45:45,400
Speaker 1: better potentially just because it wasn't all that good last season,

1804
01:45:46,240 --> 01:45:49,320
Speaker 1: but there's also a lot of projection there and the

1805
01:45:49,439 --> 01:45:51,320
Speaker 1: run game. They just weren't able to run the ball.

1806
01:45:52,040 --> 01:45:54,760
Speaker 1: So there's a chance that Matt Canada if he comes in,

1807
01:45:56,240 --> 01:45:58,720
Speaker 1: you run more under center stuff, get the run game

1808
01:45:58,760 --> 01:46:01,439
Speaker 1: going a little bit, more play act, more motion, those

1809
01:46:01,479 --> 01:46:03,800
Speaker 1: types of things that it improves next year in general,

1810
01:46:04,120 --> 01:46:06,920
Speaker 1: but I wouldn't bank on it in Week one. We've

1811
01:46:06,960 --> 01:46:08,880
Speaker 1: talked a lot about are the defensive front of the

1812
01:46:08,920 --> 01:46:11,240
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills and how it would match up with an

1813
01:46:11,280 --> 01:46:13,680
Speaker 1: offensive line like that. Are there some free agent, you know,

1814
01:46:13,960 --> 01:46:17,400
Speaker 1: interior defensive lineman, not like Sheldon Richardson. Are there some

1815
01:46:17,520 --> 01:46:20,240
Speaker 1: impactful players available that would make a difference for a

1816
01:46:20,320 --> 01:46:22,360
Speaker 1: team looking to shore up their run defense and get

1817
01:46:22,400 --> 01:46:25,799
Speaker 1: some big bodies in there. Yeah, I think Sheldon Richardson

1818
01:46:25,960 --> 01:46:28,360
Speaker 1: is the big one that you just mentioned, but there

1819
01:46:28,560 --> 01:46:30,920
Speaker 1: there's a couple other names, guys who have kind of

1820
01:46:30,960 --> 01:46:33,720
Speaker 1: been injured the last few years, but just you go

1821
01:46:33,840 --> 01:46:35,679
Speaker 1: back to three years, were some of the best interior

1822
01:46:35,680 --> 01:46:39,280
Speaker 1: defenders in the NFL, Guys like Drell Casey. Kwan Short

1823
01:46:39,960 --> 01:46:42,720
Speaker 1: in Carolina is a guy who's been injured the last

1824
01:46:42,760 --> 01:46:45,280
Speaker 1: few years, but still not all that old, and if

1825
01:46:45,320 --> 01:46:47,439
Speaker 1: he can get back and healthy, he could be an

1826
01:46:47,479 --> 01:46:49,599
Speaker 1: impact run defender. So I think there's still a couple

1827
01:46:49,720 --> 01:46:52,320
Speaker 1: veterans out there that if Buffalo was looking to add

1828
01:46:52,640 --> 01:46:56,599
Speaker 1: to that rotation, makes some sense for them. Ben, thanks

1829
01:46:56,760 --> 01:46:59,320
Speaker 1: very much for the time. We appreciate it. We'll catch

1830
01:46:59,439 --> 01:47:00,760
Speaker 1: up with you down the line here as we get

1831
01:47:00,800 --> 01:47:02,680
Speaker 1: closer to the season. Thanks very much for the time.

1832
01:47:02,920 --> 01:47:05,360
Speaker 1: Thanks Ben, any time. I appreciate you. Guys. All right,

1833
01:47:05,400 --> 01:47:08,599
Speaker 1: that's Ben Lindsay Pro Football Focus analysts joining us there

1834
01:47:08,680 --> 01:47:10,960
Speaker 1: and he's been putting a lot of rankings lists together,

1835
01:47:11,040 --> 01:47:12,439
Speaker 1: so we wanted to check in with him as to

1836
01:47:12,560 --> 01:47:15,559
Speaker 1: why some of the Bills players were ranked where they

1837
01:47:15,600 --> 01:47:18,800
Speaker 1: were ranked respectively. He had Trudavious White is the number

1838
01:47:18,880 --> 01:47:23,080
Speaker 1: seven corner in the league. I'm not gonna remember all

1839
01:47:23,120 --> 01:47:24,880
Speaker 1: the guys he had ahead of him. I think Ramsey

1840
01:47:25,000 --> 01:47:27,240
Speaker 1: was up there. It's hard to be upset when you're

1841
01:47:28,479 --> 01:47:31,960
Speaker 1: when there's like he said, there's every team's got three guys.

1842
01:47:32,240 --> 01:47:35,320
Speaker 1: You know, you're talking about ninety six starting corners in

1843
01:47:35,360 --> 01:47:37,880
Speaker 1: the NFL being the top ten and that's pretty good.

1844
01:47:38,560 --> 01:47:41,120
Speaker 1: Pretty good. Yeah, No, I don't. I wasn't indicating that

1845
01:47:41,160 --> 01:47:47,000
Speaker 1: it would be a complaint. But at yeah, I if

1846
01:47:47,200 --> 01:47:48,439
Speaker 1: this is the season he said it, this is what

1847
01:47:48,439 --> 01:47:49,600
Speaker 1: are you gonna do? And that you said it, what

1848
01:47:49,640 --> 01:47:51,200
Speaker 1: are you gonna do? In the offseason, They've got other

1849
01:47:51,280 --> 01:47:53,640
Speaker 1: guys like Eric Eager, also of Pro Football Focus, had

1850
01:47:53,680 --> 01:47:56,120
Speaker 1: put out the best play caller list. You know who

1851
01:47:56,280 --> 01:47:58,360
Speaker 1: those guys are. Brian Dabele did very well in that

1852
01:47:58,520 --> 01:48:01,879
Speaker 1: and his list Brian Dable's number two behind Matt Lafleur,

1853
01:48:01,920 --> 01:48:04,479
Speaker 1: who also went thirteen and three with the Packers last year.

1854
01:48:04,920 --> 01:48:08,400
Speaker 1: If that Hail Murray falls short in Arizona when they

1855
01:48:08,439 --> 01:48:11,160
Speaker 1: win that game and they their last ten game two

1856
01:48:11,280 --> 01:48:13,559
Speaker 1: and yeah, and the Bills are fourteen and two, does

1857
01:48:13,640 --> 01:48:19,720
Speaker 1: that really change the look of that last season or

1858
01:48:19,760 --> 01:48:22,360
Speaker 1: do people kind of forget about the Hail Murray? Fourteen

1859
01:48:22,439 --> 01:48:25,800
Speaker 1: and two is a monster year, fourteen and two, sixteen games,

1860
01:48:25,840 --> 01:48:28,200
Speaker 1: they go fourteen and two. I think McDermott wins Coach

1861
01:48:28,240 --> 01:48:30,240
Speaker 1: of the Year then I think it would have put

1862
01:48:30,320 --> 01:48:33,680
Speaker 1: him over the top. You think, yeah, it maybe, but

1863
01:48:34,040 --> 01:48:37,040
Speaker 1: I think it would. Fourteen and two, three Conster years

1864
01:48:37,080 --> 01:48:39,960
Speaker 1: freaking a monster year. I mean, Lamar Jackson won the

1865
01:48:40,080 --> 01:48:42,439
Speaker 1: MVP when they went fourteen and two. Did harbwin? Did

1866
01:48:42,520 --> 01:48:44,320
Speaker 1: Harball win Coach of the Year? I know he's got

1867
01:48:44,400 --> 01:48:48,639
Speaker 1: one in his career. Was it twenty nineteen? Uh? Yes,

1868
01:48:48,800 --> 01:48:51,679
Speaker 1: I think it was because they remember they threw everything

1869
01:48:51,720 --> 01:48:54,519
Speaker 1: at the offense and started to support Lamar completely changed

1870
01:48:54,560 --> 01:48:58,120
Speaker 1: the twenty nineteen Yeah, he goes fourteen and two. McDermott

1871
01:48:58,120 --> 01:48:59,799
Speaker 1: would have won Coach of the Year. I'm pretty convinced.

1872
01:49:00,000 --> 01:49:02,080
Speaker 1: And it's that one play that Hail Murray that ye

1873
01:49:02,240 --> 01:49:05,559
Speaker 1: to him. Seriously. I know it's hard to talk about,

1874
01:49:05,640 --> 01:49:08,280
Speaker 1: but he finished as the runner up to Kevin Stefanska.

1875
01:49:08,360 --> 01:49:11,000
Speaker 1: I think stefans again at thirteen first place votes and

1876
01:49:11,080 --> 01:49:15,320
Speaker 1: he had seven, so he was second. And I know

1877
01:49:15,400 --> 01:49:17,880
Speaker 1: we talked about that on one of our recent podcast

1878
01:49:17,920 --> 01:49:23,120
Speaker 1: episodes on One Bill's Light, where we were saying that unfortunately,

1879
01:49:23,200 --> 01:49:26,440
Speaker 1: now it's going to be even harder for coach McDermott

1880
01:49:26,439 --> 01:49:29,120
Speaker 1: to get that kind of recognition because of what they

1881
01:49:29,200 --> 01:49:31,679
Speaker 1: just did last year. Like now you're expected to be good.

1882
01:49:32,200 --> 01:49:34,400
Speaker 1: So when you do play well and you are good,

1883
01:49:34,400 --> 01:49:36,360
Speaker 1: it's like, well, you were supposed to do that. Yeah,

1884
01:49:36,520 --> 01:49:38,240
Speaker 1: what are you doing that's so great over there? It's

1885
01:49:38,320 --> 01:49:41,880
Speaker 1: exactly right. I will say this though, there is a

1886
01:49:42,040 --> 01:49:45,720
Speaker 1: carrot out there if he If McDermott wants to win

1887
01:49:45,800 --> 01:49:48,160
Speaker 1: Coach of the Year this next year, they got certainly

1888
01:49:48,160 --> 01:49:50,040
Speaker 1: got to go to and go deep in the playoffs.

1889
01:49:50,080 --> 01:49:51,760
Speaker 1: But really, what it comes down to, you gotta beat

1890
01:49:51,760 --> 01:49:55,600
Speaker 1: the Chiefs twice, right, You gotta beat him in the

1891
01:49:55,640 --> 01:49:58,520
Speaker 1: regular season, then beat him again in the playoffs, theoretically

1892
01:49:58,560 --> 01:50:02,439
Speaker 1: at home or on the road. Yeah, and then you

1893
01:50:02,520 --> 01:50:03,880
Speaker 1: gotta go pat you know, you gotta get to the

1894
01:50:03,920 --> 01:50:06,320
Speaker 1: super Bowl and all that stuff. I think that's his

1895
01:50:06,439 --> 01:50:08,360
Speaker 1: only hope to do it this year. I mean, he's

1896
01:50:08,360 --> 01:50:10,320
Speaker 1: got to hit a Grand Slam home run in the

1897
01:50:10,400 --> 01:50:12,559
Speaker 1: bottom of the ninth with two outs and a full

1898
01:50:12,680 --> 01:50:16,840
Speaker 1: count with a toothpick to win it this year. What

1899
01:50:16,960 --> 01:50:21,639
Speaker 1: am I swinging with? Right? Exactly? That's toothpick, right, Because

1900
01:50:21,640 --> 01:50:23,599
Speaker 1: all these other guys, the bar is so I got,

1901
01:50:23,680 --> 01:50:26,240
Speaker 1: the bar is so low and Detroit, and you think

1902
01:50:26,240 --> 01:50:29,519
Speaker 1: about the history of the Browns and then Stefanski comes

1903
01:50:29,520 --> 01:50:32,720
Speaker 1: in with a loaded roster year one. He didn't have

1904
01:50:32,760 --> 01:50:35,080
Speaker 1: an off season. The guy's not a stiff. I mean, like,

1905
01:50:37,320 --> 01:50:39,519
Speaker 1: I just think the narrative was easier for him to

1906
01:50:39,600 --> 01:50:43,000
Speaker 1: get credit for where the Browns went, you know what

1907
01:50:43,040 --> 01:50:45,000
Speaker 1: I mean? Yeah, And I think the fact that he

1908
01:50:45,120 --> 01:50:46,960
Speaker 1: gets it after being on the job for one year,

1909
01:50:47,280 --> 01:50:50,280
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm with you, I'm kind of you

1910
01:50:50,400 --> 01:50:53,599
Speaker 1: know that. You know that the way things operate here

1911
01:50:53,720 --> 01:50:55,560
Speaker 1: one Bill's drive. It's all about earning it. And I

1912
01:50:55,680 --> 01:50:58,760
Speaker 1: think after four years you could make a very strong

1913
01:50:58,880 --> 01:51:02,559
Speaker 1: argument that he earned that award, did not get How

1914
01:51:02,680 --> 01:51:06,880
Speaker 1: low what win total does Stefan Does Dan Campbell have

1915
01:51:06,920 --> 01:51:09,000
Speaker 1: to get in Detroit to go to the get Coach

1916
01:51:09,040 --> 01:51:15,280
Speaker 1: of the Year? Yeah? Wildcard? Eleven and six, wildcard, just

1917
01:51:15,439 --> 01:51:19,120
Speaker 1: get in. Yeah, twelve and five would lock it up.

1918
01:51:20,280 --> 01:51:24,360
Speaker 1: You go twelve and five with that team. You're about

1919
01:51:24,439 --> 01:51:30,400
Speaker 1: David Culley, what's his win total? Nine and nine to seven, eight,

1920
01:51:30,520 --> 01:51:34,120
Speaker 1: nine and eight? Um, No, he's not getting Yeah, he's

1921
01:51:34,160 --> 01:51:35,920
Speaker 1: not getting Coach of the Year with that. There is

1922
01:51:35,960 --> 01:51:37,960
Speaker 1: only one guy that got a Coach of the Year

1923
01:51:38,040 --> 01:51:40,080
Speaker 1: with a losing record in the history of the league,

1924
01:51:40,640 --> 01:51:44,360
Speaker 1: and it was Jimmy Johnson in nineteen ninety after they

1925
01:51:44,439 --> 01:51:48,080
Speaker 1: had gone oh, fifteen one, fifteen one and fifteen. The

1926
01:51:48,200 --> 01:51:50,920
Speaker 1: year before yea, they went seven and nine and he

1927
01:51:51,000 --> 01:51:55,439
Speaker 1: got Coach of the Year for that. Only guy to

1928
01:51:55,479 --> 01:51:57,519
Speaker 1: ever win Coach of the Year with a losing record.

1929
01:51:57,600 --> 01:51:59,360
Speaker 1: That's how that's how low the bar is for some

1930
01:51:59,439 --> 01:52:01,639
Speaker 1: of those guys. And you're right, McDermott has done such

1931
01:52:01,680 --> 01:52:05,639
Speaker 1: a good job now people take it for granted. Yeah.

1932
01:52:07,000 --> 01:52:08,839
Speaker 1: Well yeah, And I think a lot of the voters

1933
01:52:08,880 --> 01:52:12,360
Speaker 1: will just you know, if the Bills have thirteen fourteen

1934
01:52:12,400 --> 01:52:14,720
Speaker 1: win season again, it'll just be cast off as well.

1935
01:52:14,720 --> 01:52:16,800
Speaker 1: They're a good team, they're loaded, they're talented, they got

1936
01:52:16,840 --> 01:52:19,840
Speaker 1: a unicorn at quarterback. Of course they're gonna win. You know,

1937
01:52:21,360 --> 01:52:23,439
Speaker 1: you could plug any coach in. They'll win eleven games

1938
01:52:23,479 --> 01:52:24,640
Speaker 1: with that team, you know what I mean. It'll be

1939
01:52:24,760 --> 01:52:27,519
Speaker 1: that kind of thing. Yeah. Yeah, And it's unfortunate because

1940
01:52:27,560 --> 01:52:29,519
Speaker 1: I think his best opportunity at Coach of the Year

1941
01:52:29,560 --> 01:52:33,600
Speaker 1: honors was probably last year. And I don't know if

1942
01:52:33,640 --> 01:52:35,640
Speaker 1: he should have gotten trumped by a first year guy

1943
01:52:35,720 --> 01:52:38,720
Speaker 1: in Stefanski. But that's that's all in the rear view

1944
01:52:38,720 --> 01:52:41,400
Speaker 1: mirror now, right, So there's not really much you can

1945
01:52:41,479 --> 01:52:44,360
Speaker 1: do with that. Have you heard of the move past it?

1946
01:52:44,640 --> 01:52:49,800
Speaker 1: Have you heard of Mac jones new nickname? No, it

1947
01:52:50,040 --> 01:52:56,720
Speaker 1: was given to him by Cam Newton. Oh, where do

1948
01:52:56,760 --> 01:52:59,320
Speaker 1: you want to want to give it a guess as

1949
01:52:59,360 --> 01:53:02,479
Speaker 1: to what it is. How do I find I'm gonna.

1950
01:53:03,840 --> 01:53:12,240
Speaker 1: I don't know what is it? I don't know. Well,

1951
01:53:12,600 --> 01:53:15,559
Speaker 1: it's it's it's a derivative of it's a it's an

1952
01:53:15,560 --> 01:53:18,840
Speaker 1: embellishment of his first name, Mac Ja or something like that.

1953
01:53:19,200 --> 01:53:23,400
Speaker 1: Mj No named him after Michael Jordan or something. No, well,

1954
01:53:23,439 --> 01:53:24,640
Speaker 1: I'm trying to give you a hint, but I think

1955
01:53:24,640 --> 01:53:28,080
Speaker 1: if I do, it'll give it away. So it is

1956
01:53:29,520 --> 01:53:35,479
Speaker 1: mm hmm. It's a product. Is the nickname mac and cheese? There?

1957
01:53:36,800 --> 01:53:38,920
Speaker 1: Mac and cheese. That's what Cam Newton now calls him.

1958
01:53:38,960 --> 01:53:42,479
Speaker 1: Mac and Cheese. Is Mac jones new nickname, mac and cheese,

1959
01:53:42,920 --> 01:53:45,160
Speaker 1: given to him by the veteran quarterback ahead of him

1960
01:53:45,200 --> 01:53:47,680
Speaker 1: on the depth chart. Mac and cheese? There you go?

1961
01:53:48,479 --> 01:53:52,559
Speaker 1: Could be. I'm sure he's been called worse so by

1962
01:53:52,600 --> 01:53:57,880
Speaker 1: Auburn fans. Yeah, yeah, sure, So that's what happens this

1963
01:53:58,000 --> 01:54:01,000
Speaker 1: time here. Everybody can get a nickname. Everybody gets a nickname.

1964
01:54:01,120 --> 01:54:03,800
Speaker 1: You get you had a pretty tame one man. Were

1965
01:54:03,840 --> 01:54:10,280
Speaker 1: you ever called anything different in college? No, I'm not

1966
01:54:10,360 --> 01:54:16,000
Speaker 1: going there. No he was, he was. No, I will

1967
01:54:16,080 --> 01:54:20,760
Speaker 1: give you the worst nickname that I ever got. So

1968
01:54:21,760 --> 01:54:25,080
Speaker 1: high school basketball season, I get my nose busted. Some

1969
01:54:25,280 --> 01:54:27,320
Speaker 1: guy thinks he's Heir Jordan and he's not, and I'm

1970
01:54:27,360 --> 01:54:29,519
Speaker 1: taking the charge and his elbow comes straight down on

1971
01:54:29,600 --> 01:54:33,400
Speaker 1: my nose, just busts it. So I got to wear

1972
01:54:33,520 --> 01:54:36,560
Speaker 1: that horrific Phantom of the Opera mask over my nose

1973
01:54:36,640 --> 01:54:41,160
Speaker 1: the rest of basketball season. So, needless to say, I

1974
01:54:41,280 --> 01:54:44,880
Speaker 1: am getting heckel to High Heaven at all road games.

1975
01:54:46,160 --> 01:54:51,400
Speaker 1: But one of the upper classmen on my own team

1976
01:54:53,280 --> 01:54:55,760
Speaker 1: the first day I come into practice with this contraption

1977
01:54:55,840 --> 01:54:59,520
Speaker 1: on my face, he says to me. They say to me, oh,

1978
01:54:59,600 --> 01:55:03,880
Speaker 1: my guy Brown broke his nose. They're like, hey, that's

1979
01:55:03,880 --> 01:55:06,280
Speaker 1: a good nickname, your brown nose for the rest of

1980
01:55:06,320 --> 01:55:08,720
Speaker 1: the season. Oh nice. Yeah, So that was my nickname

1981
01:55:08,760 --> 01:55:10,560
Speaker 1: for the rest of this It was great. That's unfortunate.

1982
01:55:10,680 --> 01:55:16,840
Speaker 1: It was terrible. Yeah, yeah, not good, not good. I've

1983
01:55:16,880 --> 01:55:18,400
Speaker 1: been called yeah, not to mention the fact that I

1984
01:55:18,440 --> 01:55:22,760
Speaker 1: am the furthest thing from right. Yeah, ask Jay Harris

1985
01:55:22,840 --> 01:55:28,440
Speaker 1: how much the uh Yeah, the name I got Sevy

1986
01:55:28,520 --> 01:55:30,400
Speaker 1: was because of my golf game, you know. Yeah, there

1987
01:55:30,440 --> 01:55:32,760
Speaker 1: was a bias steros connection. Was Sevy by Stairs was

1988
01:55:32,880 --> 01:55:34,920
Speaker 1: my favorite guy and we just took up golf, and

1989
01:55:34,920 --> 01:55:36,280
Speaker 1: when I got here to Buffalo, I was like mid

1990
01:55:36,400 --> 01:55:40,240
Speaker 1: twenties and I would we stunk. So the buddy I

1991
01:55:40,320 --> 01:55:42,960
Speaker 1: was playing with one of our Tasker's teammates, Stan Gelba,

1992
01:55:44,000 --> 01:55:46,840
Speaker 1: former quarterback with Jim and Frank and all those guys.

1993
01:55:46,880 --> 01:55:49,040
Speaker 1: We go out and play and he'd be Jack Nicholas,

1994
01:55:49,080 --> 01:55:50,920
Speaker 1: I'd be Sevy by a Stais. So he'd called started

1995
01:55:50,920 --> 01:55:53,000
Speaker 1: called me Sevy all the time, and it just stuck

1996
01:55:53,640 --> 01:55:55,480
Speaker 1: the one I had. How did it permeate through the

1997
01:55:55,560 --> 01:55:58,960
Speaker 1: locker room because we all hung out and they thought

1998
01:55:59,000 --> 01:56:00,760
Speaker 1: it was funny, so they all called started calling me that.

1999
01:56:00,840 --> 01:56:03,880
Speaker 1: And then the nickname I had as an oiler was

2000
01:56:03,960 --> 01:56:09,360
Speaker 1: given me actually by Jerry Glanville because surprisingly I used

2001
01:56:09,360 --> 01:56:11,760
Speaker 1: to test out really well physically. I was really strong,

2002
01:56:12,160 --> 01:56:14,320
Speaker 1: really strong, and I could all that stuff, okay, and

2003
01:56:14,480 --> 01:56:16,440
Speaker 1: so but I was I like where this is going?

2004
01:56:16,560 --> 01:56:19,560
Speaker 1: But I was like, you know this hairless sixth grader, Right,

2005
01:56:20,920 --> 01:56:22,840
Speaker 1: I was the kid who won me bade me think

2006
01:56:22,880 --> 01:56:25,400
Speaker 1: of those hairless cats. Right I was. I was the

2007
01:56:25,560 --> 01:56:29,200
Speaker 1: kid who won the the essay contest be an oiler

2008
01:56:29,280 --> 01:56:32,360
Speaker 1: for a day, Right, that's what I looked like. So

2009
01:56:32,560 --> 01:56:34,240
Speaker 1: my nickname I was, but I was kind of a

2010
01:56:34,440 --> 01:56:37,200
Speaker 1: but he thought I was a brute, right, but I was,

2011
01:56:37,480 --> 01:56:40,480
Speaker 1: so he called me Mini, Mini brute, so that my

2012
01:56:40,600 --> 01:56:43,960
Speaker 1: nickname was Mini. When I was an oiler, Okay, I

2013
01:56:44,080 --> 01:56:47,560
Speaker 1: thought it was gonna end up somewhere better. Yeah, nicknames

2014
01:56:47,600 --> 01:56:49,760
Speaker 1: are never thought I was. He thought I was strong.

2015
01:56:49,920 --> 01:56:53,280
Speaker 1: I was like, okay, we're going somewhere here, all right,

2016
01:56:53,440 --> 01:56:55,040
Speaker 1: he can't. That's when he came in, says, Miny, you

2017
01:56:55,080 --> 01:56:57,520
Speaker 1: got a phone phone call in the player's lounge. Congratulations,

2018
01:56:57,560 --> 01:57:00,400
Speaker 1: you've been picked up by Buffalo and the rest is here.

2019
01:57:00,440 --> 01:57:03,040
Speaker 1: We are there, you go, all right, there you go

2020
01:57:03,480 --> 01:57:07,080
Speaker 1: minutes good brown nose. Yeah, that's terrible, dude, that doesn't fit.

2021
01:57:07,320 --> 01:57:13,280
Speaker 1: That's terrible. Another one was Crispy. Somebody called me. One

2022
01:57:13,320 --> 01:57:16,360
Speaker 1: of my gym teachers called me crispy. He said he

2023
01:57:16,440 --> 01:57:18,840
Speaker 1: called me that because I was fast. But I was like,

2024
01:57:19,040 --> 01:57:21,960
Speaker 1: that doesn't make any sense, Like what am I a serial?

2025
01:57:23,360 --> 01:57:26,320
Speaker 1: It's a gym major. He was a I think it

2026
01:57:26,400 --> 01:57:28,400
Speaker 1: was a little out to lunch on that. He just

2027
01:57:28,560 --> 01:57:30,720
Speaker 1: tried to take my name and throw something on the

2028
01:57:30,840 --> 01:57:33,400
Speaker 1: end of it, and I think it didn't work at all.

2029
01:57:33,760 --> 01:57:36,400
Speaker 1: There you go, so all right, we're gonna take a

2030
01:57:36,480 --> 01:57:38,560
Speaker 1: break here because when we come back, we'll wrap up

2031
01:57:38,560 --> 01:57:40,480
Speaker 1: your comments on the tweet sheet and we'll do a

2032
01:57:40,560 --> 01:57:44,680
Speaker 1: little NFL true false. Got some good ones in the

2033
01:57:45,360 --> 01:57:48,760
Speaker 1: lineup for Steve here when we return on One Bill's

2034
01:57:48,800 --> 01:57:50,480
Speaker 1: line for his anybody a Lot of Health. It's Buffalo

2035
01:57:50,520 --> 01:58:05,360
Speaker 1: Bill's Radio. Welcome back to One Bill's Live. Chris Brown,

2036
01:58:05,440 --> 01:58:09,400
Speaker 1: Steve Chasker with you here on a Thursday, and we

2037
01:58:09,520 --> 01:58:11,480
Speaker 1: want to wrap up some of the comments on the

2038
01:58:11,520 --> 01:58:14,120
Speaker 1: tweet sheet. As we were asking you which position group

2039
01:58:14,160 --> 01:58:18,680
Speaker 1: you were most encouraged by, and John said, it has

2040
01:58:18,760 --> 01:58:21,720
Speaker 1: to be the defensive end group. With the addition of Greg,

2041
01:58:22,440 --> 01:58:26,080
Speaker 1: Boogie and Fa, the Bills haven't seen such potential in

2042
01:58:26,200 --> 01:58:30,280
Speaker 1: this group since Bruce. That's kind of steep. I'm excited

2043
01:58:30,280 --> 01:58:32,640
Speaker 1: to see how dangerous these men. These men can be,

2044
01:58:32,840 --> 01:58:37,960
Speaker 1: Go Bills. I think we have to remember that Greg

2045
01:58:38,080 --> 01:58:41,520
Speaker 1: Rousseau is a one year starter in college and we

2046
01:58:41,640 --> 01:58:44,760
Speaker 1: even heard Brandon Bean describe him as a raw piece

2047
01:58:44,800 --> 01:58:48,720
Speaker 1: of clay. So I think it's gonna be interesting to

2048
01:58:48,840 --> 01:58:51,360
Speaker 1: see what his learning curve looks like as we get

2049
01:58:51,400 --> 01:58:54,120
Speaker 1: to training camp and into the preseason and really get

2050
01:58:54,200 --> 01:58:58,000
Speaker 1: a sense for how effective and NFL ready he is.

2051
01:58:58,680 --> 01:59:00,920
Speaker 1: I think most of us believe that Basham has a

2052
01:59:01,000 --> 01:59:04,960
Speaker 1: higher NFL floor because of his larger body of work

2053
01:59:05,040 --> 01:59:09,120
Speaker 1: in college. Yeah, I think this is what I think.

2054
01:59:09,680 --> 01:59:12,600
Speaker 1: All of these guys have an enormous amounts of potential.

2055
01:59:12,680 --> 01:59:14,880
Speaker 1: That's why they get drafted. They think they could be

2056
01:59:14,920 --> 01:59:18,120
Speaker 1: a really good pro player. Certainly, Greg Rousseau, when you

2057
01:59:18,240 --> 01:59:21,600
Speaker 1: see him, has got everything an NFL athlete needs physically,

2058
01:59:22,840 --> 01:59:26,880
Speaker 1: and he has so. Also in his favor is the

2059
01:59:26,960 --> 01:59:28,880
Speaker 1: fact that over the course of his opt out year

2060
01:59:29,400 --> 01:59:33,440
Speaker 1: he displayed some discipline and some commitment that's pretty impressive.

2061
01:59:34,200 --> 01:59:37,960
Speaker 1: He put on twenty pounds of lean weight. His representation

2062
01:59:38,040 --> 01:59:39,720
Speaker 1: and the people who talked to him about being a

2063
01:59:39,760 --> 01:59:41,960
Speaker 1: pro told him, listen, you were two forty seven when

2064
01:59:42,000 --> 01:59:44,240
Speaker 1: he had those fifteen and a half sacks rushing from

2065
01:59:44,280 --> 01:59:46,960
Speaker 1: the inside. I think your pro weight is going to

2066
01:59:47,000 --> 01:59:50,320
Speaker 1: be between two sixty five and two seventy five. And

2067
01:59:50,560 --> 01:59:56,440
Speaker 1: Rousseau said, okay, and he's there. That is not easy

2068
01:59:56,480 --> 01:59:58,240
Speaker 1: to do. We've talked about it a lot on this

2069
01:59:58,320 --> 02:00:00,400
Speaker 1: show in the last couple of weeks. It's not easy

2070
02:00:00,440 --> 02:00:02,680
Speaker 1: to transform yourself. And I'm not saying an extra twenty

2071
02:00:02,720 --> 02:00:06,240
Speaker 1: pounds was transformative. But it's not just having an extra

2072
02:00:06,320 --> 02:00:10,400
Speaker 1: breakfast you put it on the Yeah, it's something that

2073
02:00:10,680 --> 02:00:12,880
Speaker 1: they told him he needed to do that he did

2074
02:00:12,920 --> 02:00:16,920
Speaker 1: without anybody looking over his shoulder. That displays some of

2075
02:00:16,960 --> 02:00:19,680
Speaker 1: the character traits that you're also looking for and that

2076
02:00:19,840 --> 02:00:25,080
Speaker 1: some other great players have displayed. So the more things

2077
02:00:25,160 --> 02:00:28,000
Speaker 1: you have in common with great players who who not

2078
02:00:28,120 --> 02:00:31,600
Speaker 1: only had great tools, but also and great gifts, but

2079
02:00:31,720 --> 02:00:37,160
Speaker 1: also great commitment, when you share enough of those traits,

2080
02:00:37,240 --> 02:00:39,880
Speaker 1: you're become as good as you can be. Now, Greg

2081
02:00:39,960 --> 02:00:42,200
Speaker 1: Rasseul will never be like Bruce, but he could be

2082
02:00:42,240 --> 02:00:45,800
Speaker 1: pretty darned good in his own right. And he's gonna

2083
02:00:45,960 --> 02:00:47,800
Speaker 1: even if he has two hundred sacks, he's gonna get

2084
02:00:47,880 --> 02:00:49,480
Speaker 1: him in a different way than Bruce did. That's just

2085
02:00:49,560 --> 02:00:53,560
Speaker 1: the way it's gonna be. But the physical traits and

2086
02:00:53,720 --> 02:00:56,800
Speaker 1: all the things that go with that that people in

2087
02:00:56,880 --> 02:01:01,560
Speaker 1: this business see in guys who get jackets are present

2088
02:01:01,600 --> 02:01:04,960
Speaker 1: in Greg Rousseau. Yeah, he hasn't shown him yet, hasn't

2089
02:01:04,960 --> 02:01:08,080
Speaker 1: played enough football yet. But that's why the guy gets

2090
02:01:08,200 --> 02:01:11,800
Speaker 1: drafted in the first round of the NFL draft because

2091
02:01:11,880 --> 02:01:15,280
Speaker 1: all of that stuff is in place. What he's gonna

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Speaker 1: do as a bill. We have to find out. We

2093
02:01:19,040 --> 02:01:21,640
Speaker 1: don't know. But the reason he is where he is

2094
02:01:22,640 --> 02:01:25,200
Speaker 1: is because of not just what he looks like in

2095
02:01:25,280 --> 02:01:28,760
Speaker 1: a picture with Brandon Bean and John McDermott, but it's

2096
02:01:28,800 --> 02:01:32,440
Speaker 1: what he is displayed about himself in interviews and on

2097
02:01:32,560 --> 02:01:35,520
Speaker 1: the practice field, football field, and how he changed his

2098
02:01:35,640 --> 02:01:39,560
Speaker 1: body when nobody was looking. From Debtza, the easy answer

2099
02:01:39,640 --> 02:01:41,440
Speaker 1: I think would be the receiving group. But I'm really

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02:01:41,480 --> 02:01:44,360
Speaker 1: excited about our offensive line with the additions made this offseason,

2101
02:01:44,400 --> 02:01:46,960
Speaker 1: plus getting our vet's back healthy will be huge. Greatest

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02:01:47,000 --> 02:01:50,600
Speaker 1: turnaround from the twenty twenty season. Would you call it

2103
02:01:50,680 --> 02:01:53,080
Speaker 1: a turnaround if you got largely the same guys back

2104
02:01:53,280 --> 02:01:56,160
Speaker 1: and then you've added to draft about three draft choices, Well,

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02:01:56,240 --> 02:01:57,520
Speaker 1: if you have the only guy, If you have the

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02:01:57,560 --> 02:02:00,280
Speaker 1: same five guys on the field that we're you were

2107
02:02:00,280 --> 02:02:04,040
Speaker 1: gonna have last year with Cody Ford, Feliciano, Mitch Morris

2108
02:02:04,120 --> 02:02:08,200
Speaker 1: and the two tackles in Dawkins and Williams. The only

2109
02:02:08,280 --> 02:02:10,520
Speaker 1: way you can say that's transformative is if they go

2110
02:02:10,640 --> 02:02:14,120
Speaker 1: out and they run the ball for twenty five play

2111
02:02:14,200 --> 02:02:18,040
Speaker 1: demonstrably they yeah the productions different by the if they're

2112
02:02:18,120 --> 02:02:20,720
Speaker 1: so dominant that Josh Allen doesn't have to throw the

2113
02:02:20,760 --> 02:02:23,600
Speaker 1: ball more than twenty times a game. You have to

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02:02:23,640 --> 02:02:25,840
Speaker 1: say yes to that. But that's gonna be I mean,

2115
02:02:26,280 --> 02:02:29,360
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to really be dominant for an offensive

2116
02:02:29,400 --> 02:02:31,560
Speaker 1: coordinator to take the ball out of Josh Allen's hands

2117
02:02:31,560 --> 02:02:33,440
Speaker 1: with all these rechievers on the on the field, so

2118
02:02:33,920 --> 02:02:36,480
Speaker 1: if they can protect the passer, that's step one, Job one.

2119
02:02:36,840 --> 02:02:38,640
Speaker 1: The running game, and anything they can give you in

2120
02:02:38,720 --> 02:02:43,080
Speaker 1: it this year is to me is gravy. Yeah. It's

2121
02:02:43,120 --> 02:02:48,160
Speaker 1: funny because you think about the projected five, provided Cody

2122
02:02:48,240 --> 02:02:51,080
Speaker 1: Ford comes back healthy and performs well in camp. So

2123
02:02:51,200 --> 02:02:54,480
Speaker 1: you have your starting five, which just for the sake

2124
02:02:54,520 --> 02:02:58,240
Speaker 1: of argument, let's just say it's what we thought it

2125
02:02:58,320 --> 02:03:02,360
Speaker 1: was going to be last year. Dawkins or Morse, Feliciano Williams.

2126
02:03:02,920 --> 02:03:06,880
Speaker 1: That's five right there. Then you have your top two

2127
02:03:07,000 --> 02:03:10,280
Speaker 1: draft choices on the old line, Doyle and Brown. You

2128
02:03:10,400 --> 02:03:12,960
Speaker 1: assume they'll make the roster. Now you're up to seven,

2129
02:03:14,960 --> 02:03:19,480
Speaker 1: Butcher is eight, and you're you're arguably talking about one

2130
02:03:19,560 --> 02:03:26,080
Speaker 1: spot left for seven guys. Yeah, I mean, unless somebody

2131
02:03:26,200 --> 02:03:28,520
Speaker 1: really blows the roof off of training camp. It's a

2132
02:03:28,600 --> 02:03:33,680
Speaker 1: really hard room to get into. And you know, maybe

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02:03:33,760 --> 02:03:39,120
Speaker 1: the maybe the maybe Alexander gets in there, is that right?

2134
02:03:39,280 --> 02:03:42,680
Speaker 1: Or yeah, right, Jack Anderson, Jack Anderson, Anderson gets in there.

2135
02:03:42,760 --> 02:03:45,120
Speaker 1: Maybe he slips in, Maybe he slips to the practice squad.

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02:03:46,120 --> 02:03:49,560
Speaker 1: Um the other guy in Bates. I mean, yeah, they've

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02:03:49,640 --> 02:03:52,600
Speaker 1: got some guy. We'll see. We'll see Forced Lamp who

2138
02:03:52,680 --> 02:03:54,760
Speaker 1: knows as Forest Lamp, Bobby Hard. I mean these are

2139
02:03:54,840 --> 02:03:59,280
Speaker 1: veteran free agents they picked up. I mean, injuries always

2140
02:03:59,280 --> 02:04:02,320
Speaker 1: play a role. There's so many names, it's hard to

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02:04:02,360 --> 02:04:05,520
Speaker 1: even shuffle him in there. That's the brilliance of what

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02:04:05,640 --> 02:04:07,680
Speaker 1: training camp can be. When you got a coaching staff

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02:04:07,720 --> 02:04:10,800
Speaker 1: that's looking at this dispassionately, and if nobody's got a

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02:04:10,880 --> 02:04:13,200
Speaker 1: leg up, if all five of those starters are coming

2145
02:04:13,240 --> 02:04:16,200
Speaker 1: in dead, even with the draft picks and everything else,

2146
02:04:16,960 --> 02:04:18,880
Speaker 1: what do you start to do is it's it is

2147
02:04:19,040 --> 02:04:22,360
Speaker 1: an absolute chemistry test where they're pouring test tubes into this.

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02:04:22,520 --> 02:04:24,960
Speaker 1: Can he play right guard? Okay? If he plays right guard,

2149
02:04:25,000 --> 02:04:27,640
Speaker 1: pretty good, he's even better at left guard. Well, if

2150
02:04:27,680 --> 02:04:30,280
Speaker 1: he goes to left guard, and we do this over here,

2151
02:04:30,320 --> 02:04:33,480
Speaker 1: you know, you've got five spots and fifty sixteen guys

2152
02:04:33,960 --> 02:04:36,560
Speaker 1: to find out the best five combination. It's not just

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02:04:36,720 --> 02:04:39,200
Speaker 1: the best five, but it's also the best five in

2154
02:04:39,320 --> 02:04:43,760
Speaker 1: combination with each other. It's like it's a math problem almost,

2155
02:04:44,520 --> 02:04:47,840
Speaker 1: And you got to give him enough reps to find out.

2156
02:04:47,920 --> 02:04:51,760
Speaker 1: And you know they're out here in helmets and shorts. Yeah,

2157
02:04:52,000 --> 02:04:54,880
Speaker 1: well it's hard to get to camp first. Yeah, it's

2158
02:04:54,880 --> 02:04:57,400
Speaker 1: hard to do. Time for some NFL True Falls brought

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Speaker 1: to you by Yancey's Fancy New York's Artists in che

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Speaker 1: and first on the list for NFL True false. Steve

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02:05:05,160 --> 02:05:10,800
Speaker 1: Jaire Alexander is the best outside cornerback in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: True or false. No, I'm not gonna know. It's impossible

2163
02:05:21,440 --> 02:05:25,040
Speaker 1: to make a statement like that outside corner in the NFL.

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02:05:25,280 --> 02:05:28,160
Speaker 1: You know. No, I'm gonna say false. You're saying false

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Speaker 1: because you don't like the question or what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: False because JR. Alexander's a great player, no question about it.

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02:05:35,040 --> 02:05:38,200
Speaker 1: And I'm gonna say no. I like Jalen Ramsey better. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think he's good. I think he's a very good

2169
02:05:41,720 --> 02:05:45,320
Speaker 1: young corn step Steph Gilmour is pretty good. Tredavious is

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Speaker 1: really good. And I don't know what kind of I

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02:05:48,320 --> 02:05:51,760
Speaker 1: couldn't tell you that the defensive scheme or what they're

2172
02:05:51,760 --> 02:05:54,480
Speaker 1: asking JR. Alexander to do. But he's doing it really well,

2173
02:05:54,600 --> 02:05:56,760
Speaker 1: no question. But so are a lot of other guys

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Speaker 1: at that spot. So I'm gonna say no, it depends

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02:05:58,400 --> 02:06:01,120
Speaker 1: on who he's playing and who everybody else is playing. Yeah,

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02:06:01,840 --> 02:06:05,680
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm gonna I'm not gonna pretend to say

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02:06:05,720 --> 02:06:07,560
Speaker 1: that I've seen enough of his games to know what

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02:06:07,680 --> 02:06:11,280
Speaker 1: his full skill set is. I know he's a three

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02:06:11,360 --> 02:06:16,760
Speaker 1: year starter, and I mean you can look at his

2180
02:06:16,840 --> 02:06:19,400
Speaker 1: stats all you want. He's got four interceptions in three seasons.

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02:06:20,040 --> 02:06:23,400
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna go with no, how many false? How

2182
02:06:23,440 --> 02:06:25,280
Speaker 1: many targets has he seen? Maybe he's one of those

2183
02:06:25,320 --> 02:06:27,240
Speaker 1: guys he gets won ye targets game. I don't know.

2184
02:06:27,360 --> 02:06:29,680
Speaker 1: He is their number one corner so he doesn't get

2185
02:06:29,720 --> 02:06:32,960
Speaker 1: thrown out a whole lot because they picked up Kevin Kings.

2186
02:06:34,640 --> 02:06:37,480
Speaker 1: Oh boy, there we go, and we're back. So we

2187
02:06:37,600 --> 02:06:42,280
Speaker 1: will say false to that one. Uh NFL true false

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02:06:42,600 --> 02:06:46,680
Speaker 1: Number two. Steve J. J. Watt replacing Zach Allen is

2189
02:06:46,720 --> 02:06:50,760
Speaker 1: the biggest position upgrade in the NFL this offseason. I

2190
02:06:50,920 --> 02:06:53,440
Speaker 1: do not agree with that I don't think JJ is

2191
02:06:53,480 --> 02:06:55,520
Speaker 1: as good a players he once was. I think I'll

2192
02:06:55,560 --> 02:06:58,000
Speaker 1: have a hard time staying healthy, particularly through a seventeen

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02:06:58,040 --> 02:07:02,800
Speaker 1: games season, and his production won't be what they think

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02:07:02,880 --> 02:07:04,880
Speaker 1: it is. I think I think Arizona fell into a

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02:07:04,960 --> 02:07:07,160
Speaker 1: trap that they've been known to do before by grabbing

2196
02:07:07,200 --> 02:07:09,760
Speaker 1: a really great like an Emmett Smith, a name recognition,

2197
02:07:09,840 --> 02:07:12,640
Speaker 1: name recognition signing. This is not a production signing, and

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02:07:12,640 --> 02:07:15,640
Speaker 1: they're paying the guy nineteen fifteen and a half fifteen

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Speaker 1: and a half. He will never he will not live

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02:07:19,360 --> 02:07:22,880
Speaker 1: up to that month. That contract. That is not I

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02:07:22,960 --> 02:07:26,960
Speaker 1: don't even know if the if the question is fair

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Speaker 1: to answer and true or false. I am going to

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02:07:29,360 --> 02:07:32,880
Speaker 1: say false as well. But when I think of the

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02:07:33,080 --> 02:07:37,080
Speaker 1: Cardinals adding JJ Watt for their pass rush, I think

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02:07:37,200 --> 02:07:40,400
Speaker 1: more about the guy that they subtracted so they could

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02:07:40,440 --> 02:07:42,760
Speaker 1: sign him. So JJ Watt is signed, and I know

2207
02:07:42,920 --> 02:07:46,880
Speaker 1: he's an end in there. I think they play a

2208
02:07:46,920 --> 02:07:49,440
Speaker 1: three four there. I think he's a five technique in

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02:07:49,480 --> 02:07:52,360
Speaker 1: their three four system. Do they play a three I'm

2210
02:07:52,400 --> 02:07:54,080
Speaker 1: gonna have to double check. I want to say they do.

2211
02:07:54,920 --> 02:07:57,720
Speaker 1: But Hassan Reddick was an outside linebacker pass rusher for

2212
02:07:57,800 --> 02:08:00,800
Speaker 1: them and now he's in Carolina. They chose to resign

2213
02:08:01,360 --> 02:08:05,280
Speaker 1: the twenty five year old and instead signed the thirty

2214
02:08:05,320 --> 02:08:08,480
Speaker 1: two year old to giant money, and now Hassan Reddick

2215
02:08:08,560 --> 02:08:10,920
Speaker 1: is reunited with his former college coach, Matt Rule from

2216
02:08:10,960 --> 02:08:16,400
Speaker 1: Temple in Carolina. So I would say false because to me,

2217
02:08:16,640 --> 02:08:19,440
Speaker 1: that's what you subtracted and replaced it with. And I

2218
02:08:19,480 --> 02:08:23,240
Speaker 1: don't think what I think Watt's on the back back

2219
02:08:23,360 --> 02:08:25,400
Speaker 1: nine of his career. Clearly, I think he could still

2220
02:08:25,400 --> 02:08:28,400
Speaker 1: be a productive player. The question is what's his availability

2221
02:08:28,440 --> 02:08:31,160
Speaker 1: going to be in thirty two? Yeah, and he's he's

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02:08:31,440 --> 02:08:33,560
Speaker 1: been one of those guys that when he gets an injury,

2223
02:08:33,600 --> 02:08:36,320
Speaker 1: it is not it's not a one week it's not

2224
02:08:36,440 --> 02:08:38,800
Speaker 1: a two week injury. I mean, he plays through a

2225
02:08:38,840 --> 02:08:42,240
Speaker 1: lot of that stuff he does, so when he does

2226
02:08:42,360 --> 02:08:44,920
Speaker 1: get injured, it's and he's out, it's a bad one

2227
02:08:44,960 --> 02:08:47,840
Speaker 1: and it takes a whole you know, takes weeks to

2228
02:08:47,920 --> 02:08:49,920
Speaker 1: get come back, if at all that season. So I'm

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02:08:50,440 --> 02:08:52,920
Speaker 1: I do not think that's as much as an upgrade

2230
02:08:52,920 --> 02:08:55,520
Speaker 1: as obviously the question would infer. I think any look

2231
02:08:55,560 --> 02:08:59,520
Speaker 1: around the league looking at upgrades, think of another one.

2232
02:09:02,000 --> 02:09:05,280
Speaker 1: Matt Stafford's a little bit of an upgrade to me. Yeah,

2233
02:09:05,400 --> 02:09:08,120
Speaker 1: I was trying to run through my head, Julio Jones,

2234
02:09:08,640 --> 02:09:12,920
Speaker 1: that's an upgrade from Corey Davis, right, a little bit, right,

2235
02:09:13,560 --> 02:09:19,080
Speaker 1: little bet, let's say, and who else? Um, there's gotta

2236
02:09:19,080 --> 02:09:21,400
Speaker 1: be some more. Oh, there's a bunch we're just we

2237
02:09:21,560 --> 02:09:23,440
Speaker 1: just hadn't. Yeah, so I would, I would say no,

2238
02:09:23,560 --> 02:09:25,680
Speaker 1: there are more better examples of players that are going

2239
02:09:25,720 --> 02:09:28,040
Speaker 1: to play much better than than the guy they replaced

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Speaker 1: the year before. NFL true false. Number three. Bill Belichick

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02:09:31,000 --> 02:09:32,920
Speaker 1: is the best head coach in the NFL heading into

2242
02:09:32,960 --> 02:09:36,840
Speaker 1: twenty twenty one. Now, what's not clear what this question is.

2243
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Speaker 1: Is he the best head coach this year? Or are

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02:09:40,280 --> 02:09:43,440
Speaker 1: we talking about best head coach of a generation? Because

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02:09:43,760 --> 02:09:47,320
Speaker 1: he is the best head coach of this generation. Yes,

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02:09:47,520 --> 02:09:49,480
Speaker 1: is he the best head coach in twenty twenty one?

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02:09:51,440 --> 02:09:52,760
Speaker 1: I don't know that he is. I don't know if

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02:09:52,840 --> 02:09:55,320
Speaker 1: I don't know, especially after we got that record from

2249
02:09:55,640 --> 02:09:59,040
Speaker 1: our caller Mark last week when he said, without Tom Brady,

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Speaker 1: he's one lost record, is worse than Wayne Fonts Ouch.

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02:10:06,800 --> 02:10:08,640
Speaker 1: That's a little chinking. I'm just gonna have I'm just

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02:10:08,720 --> 02:10:10,400
Speaker 1: gonna have to say no then, because there's a lot

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02:10:10,400 --> 02:10:12,440
Speaker 1: of guys who are who are more poised to have

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02:10:12,560 --> 02:10:14,360
Speaker 1: better years than Build. Now I'm not saying the Build

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02:10:14,360 --> 02:10:17,440
Speaker 1: will do a good job. He probably will, and he

2256
02:10:17,480 --> 02:10:19,640
Speaker 1: could still out coach probably more than yes the league.

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02:10:20,200 --> 02:10:23,120
Speaker 1: But I think the what it comes down to is,

2258
02:10:23,200 --> 02:10:24,880
Speaker 1: you know who's gonna have a better season and more

2259
02:10:24,960 --> 02:10:27,920
Speaker 1: surprising season, And I think we're he's a little bit

2260
02:10:27,960 --> 02:10:31,880
Speaker 1: in the Sean McDermott realm where the expectations are pretty

2261
02:10:31,960 --> 02:10:35,080
Speaker 1: high for him to bounce back, particularly given the fact

2262
02:10:35,080 --> 02:10:37,640
Speaker 1: that they had that free agent money and they got

2263
02:10:37,680 --> 02:10:40,120
Speaker 1: the draft pick and all that stuff, and they picked

2264
02:10:40,160 --> 02:10:42,280
Speaker 1: the people they wanted to play, and they got the

2265
02:10:42,440 --> 02:10:44,440
Speaker 1: run up to it that they wanted. So I think

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02:10:44,520 --> 02:10:46,760
Speaker 1: this will be a little bit of a litmus test

2267
02:10:46,800 --> 02:10:50,400
Speaker 1: to see how he how he is coaching, because I

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02:10:50,640 --> 02:10:54,720
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, last year was no question of guys

2269
02:10:54,720 --> 02:11:00,400
Speaker 1: like Sean McVeigh come to mind, Shanahan ran, Andy Reid

2270
02:11:00,480 --> 02:11:02,600
Speaker 1: and Andy I was gonna say Andy Reid too, you know,

2271
02:11:02,760 --> 02:11:05,680
Speaker 1: I mean, and of course the guy here from McDermott.

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02:11:05,680 --> 02:11:07,480
Speaker 1: It's the fans Gas Coach of the Year last year.

2273
02:11:08,160 --> 02:11:10,720
Speaker 1: So yeah, Ron Rivere is in a nice spot to

2274
02:11:10,800 --> 02:11:13,480
Speaker 1: get Coach of the Year. Yep, best coach in the

2275
02:11:13,720 --> 02:11:16,200
Speaker 1: NFC East in my estimation in terms of head coaches.

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02:11:16,880 --> 02:11:18,800
Speaker 1: All right, well, that's NFL True Falls brought to you

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Speaker 1: by Yancy's Fancy. We'll take a break and close things

2278
02:11:21,840 --> 02:11:23,920
Speaker 1: up for a Thursday edition of One Bills Live Next

2279
02:11:24,000 --> 02:11:43,480
Speaker 1: day tuned. What have we learned from today's show? Brought

2280
02:11:43,480 --> 02:11:46,480
Speaker 1: to you by Skyworks, the official construction equipment rental company

2281
02:11:46,520 --> 02:11:49,560
Speaker 1: of the Buffalo Bills. Well, we learned one thing today.

2282
02:11:50,560 --> 02:11:55,440
Speaker 1: NFL PA chief Demorris Smith says at least one NFL

2283
02:11:55,560 --> 02:11:59,720
Speaker 1: team has been punished for violations of the offseason workout rules,

2284
02:12:00,080 --> 02:12:04,680
Speaker 1: and several other teams remain under investigation. He called it

2285
02:12:04,800 --> 02:12:09,160
Speaker 1: a positive development that players from several teams negotiated terms

2286
02:12:09,240 --> 02:12:12,400
Speaker 1: of offseason workouts with coaches. We know that happened here

2287
02:12:12,440 --> 02:12:16,360
Speaker 1: in Buffalo. The leadership council talked with coach McDermott about

2288
02:12:16,600 --> 02:12:18,840
Speaker 1: maybe how to structure some things in the off season

2289
02:12:18,960 --> 02:12:21,360
Speaker 1: here and they were amenable as we understand it. Anyway,

2290
02:12:21,880 --> 02:12:25,680
Speaker 1: so that apparently is not the case in some other

2291
02:12:25,760 --> 02:12:29,600
Speaker 1: places around the league. And maybe Steve, this helps explain

2292
02:12:30,520 --> 02:12:35,000
Speaker 1: why four teams put the kaibash on mandatory minicamp might

2293
02:12:35,080 --> 02:12:36,800
Speaker 1: had something to do with it, no question about it.

2294
02:12:36,920 --> 02:12:41,120
Speaker 1: It's an ongoing conversation. Happens every offseason, and there's it's happened,

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02:12:41,560 --> 02:12:44,240
Speaker 1: I don't know. Fairly regularly, the one team does something

2296
02:12:44,280 --> 02:12:46,560
Speaker 1: wrong where coaches are on the field, or they're asked

2297
02:12:46,600 --> 02:12:49,560
Speaker 1: to do something, or they do something one step up

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Speaker 1: the ladder of physicality too far or whatever, and they

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Speaker 1: get they get punished. I don't know what the punishment is.

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Speaker 1: I don't think it's draft picks or anything. It's probably

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Speaker 1: just a fine. But that's it. One thing other thing

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Speaker 1: we learned today to the national broadcast for the preseason

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Speaker 1: games came out and I looked. I thought. I looked

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Speaker 1: at it and I thought, wow, it's incomplete. And then

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Speaker 1: I remember there's only three weekends. August fifth, the Hall

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Speaker 1: of Fame game that starts that weekend on the Thursday,

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Speaker 1: August fifth, the Steelers and the Cowboys. These are the

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Speaker 1: national games Fox at eight PM. Preseason week number two

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Speaker 1: is August the twentieth through the twenty third, the Chiefs

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Speaker 1: at Arizona on Friday at eight pm, and the Jackson

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Speaker 1: Jack Jacksonville at New Orleans at eight PM on Monday,

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Speaker 1: and then on the last preseason games August twenty ninth,

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Speaker 1: two games on Sunday, four PMCBS Dolphins at Bengals and

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Speaker 1: eight pm Browns at Atlanta. So the games, they're kind

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Speaker 1: of getting real when you see him on paper. Green

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Speaker 1: Bay Packers have also announced that they will have one

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Speaker 1: hundred percent capacity. Fans that are vaccinated will not have

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Speaker 1: to wear masks. Unvaccinated, we'll have to follow CDC guidelines

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Speaker 1: and wear masks. That includes their training camp and the season.

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Speaker 1: So interesting development there. Tasker's teammate and speed coach, Nick

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Speaker 1: Hicks tomorrow. We'll see you then,