Speaker 1: The following. Here's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com
Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Cowboys. This is Mick Shot,
Speaker 1: screening live on Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the official
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys at now Here are Bill Jones, Everson Wolves,
Speaker 1: and Nicky Spagnola and time for a throwback Thursday edition
Speaker 1: of mix Shots inside the s WBC podcast studio here
Speaker 1: at the Star in Frisco, as the Dallas Cowboys are
Speaker 1: on the practice field as we speak, We're going to
Speaker 1: throw it back to the starting quarterback to start on
Speaker 1: Sunday against the Detroit Lions, and Mickey. We've got other
Speaker 1: things we'll throwback over the course of the next forty
Speaker 1: five Absolutely, maybe when we begin the second segment and
Speaker 1: actually show what we were talking about yesterday with Rob
Speaker 1: Phillips's all right, take you back in time, and it
Speaker 1: will be not only Rob Phillips back in the day,
Speaker 1: but Tony Romo back in the day also before he
Speaker 1: became the Cowboys starting quarterback. And along with that, there's
Speaker 1: a clip in this show that we were doing of
Speaker 1: Dan Camp. We gotta get to we gotta get to
Speaker 1: the critical stuff because everybody out there is waiting with
Speaker 1: bated breath for Dak Prescott to come running out for
Speaker 1: a practice in pads and when I bad breath, yeah, anxious, anxious, yeah,
Speaker 1: anticipatory breath. Okay, I got you know, the TV guys
Speaker 1: have got to get that shot of him running out right,
Speaker 1: and he hadn't yet done it because because they're doing
Speaker 1: quarterback school inside doors. So the offensive linemen came out
Speaker 1: and this was funny. So they're coming out and they're
Speaker 1: kind of two by two and the cameramen are basically
Speaker 1: blocking the field. They got in single file and found
Speaker 1: a hole and all ten of them Will ran right
Speaker 1: through this little crevice between the cameras. I was like,
Speaker 1: where are they gonna go? And they did it single
Speaker 1: file and the cameramen didn't move and they didn't avoid him.
Speaker 1: It's like, this is our practice field. We're going straight ahead.
Speaker 1: So now they were trying to anticipate where the quarterbacks
Speaker 1: were going to go when they came running out. I
Speaker 1: would imagine by now they've probably done it. But this
Speaker 1: is practice, right, this is practice. There was no music
Speaker 1: play running out for practice. I would call, you know, well,
Speaker 1: they already laboring the point, They already warmed up inside
Speaker 1: like the quarterback school, and then they come out because
Speaker 1: they're not a part of special teams. Basically at that
Speaker 1: point or stretching, they stretched themselves. I just wanted to do.
Speaker 1: Does Bill have something to tell us today about your
Speaker 1: elevator ride down here? Oh I got a feeling. I
Speaker 1: know what it was. Yeah, talked there was nobody on
Speaker 1: the elevatorlev No, no, liar, he's liar. Well there are
Speaker 1: four elevators, yeah, and they can all go down at
Speaker 1: the same time. Yeah, I know, but this is too
Speaker 1: much of a coincidence. Well you were we walked out
Speaker 1: at the same time. Yeah, yes, we weren't. We didn't
Speaker 1: walk out of the elevator. We walked out of the
Speaker 1: not wasn't the same elevator, but we walked. I saw
Speaker 1: him as I got off the elevator, and well, what
Speaker 1: you need to understand, Everson, when you own the building,
Speaker 1: there's a special parking spot underneath where So that didn't
Speaker 1: just walk out, That's right, So I just walked out
Speaker 1: my special parking spots, right. No, he's talking about Jerry
Speaker 1: and I Jerry, And wasn't just Jerry. It was Jerry.
Speaker 1: That was That was a security detail. I thought that
Speaker 1: was your security detail. Yeah, so I've got secrets to tell. Yeah,
Speaker 1: secrets not to tell. He asked all the questions, did
Speaker 1: not elevator right, he did not invite me out on
Speaker 1: the practice. Where did you see us? Where were you? Well,
Speaker 1: you were coming out of my way. You were coming
Speaker 1: out Jerry walked on the field and then you came
Speaker 1: around the corner right behind. I saw you play, I
Speaker 1: saw you entering the Everson gets his workout walking down.
Speaker 1: All right, Well, sorry, I got no stories to tell.
Speaker 1: Nothing good, right, No, no, all right. So so dek
Speaker 1: Prescott expected to take the first team reps in padded
Speaker 1: practice today, So that'll be the first time since the
Speaker 1: Thursday before the season opener. And I think that's what
Speaker 1: maybe you know you can do all the time. I mean,
Speaker 1: you can jump in on this, Everson, but you can
Speaker 1: do all the throwing you want as a quarterback, but
Speaker 1: you gotta get under center and actually run plays and
Speaker 1: not throw to basically against air with wide receivers running
Speaker 1: routes for you. It's the closest he's gonna get right
Speaker 1: to real competition until the real competitional Sunday. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: want to see where the dB is gonna be you know,
Speaker 1: there's the picture to come out yet. There it is.
Speaker 1: Dak has run out on the practice field. Now, this
Speaker 1: update from the practice field in Fresco, Texas is a
Speaker 1: regular Dak Prescott has left the building and entered the field,
Speaker 1: and he has a football tucked under his left arm.
Speaker 1: A So what's on his right thumb? Sure it's that
Speaker 1: blow up as plecture here he can't see in this
Speaker 1: particular picture tweeted out by John Machoda, you cannot see
Speaker 1: the right thumb. But there'll be some black tape on it. Okay,
Speaker 1: we'll take home for it. And it just goes around
Speaker 1: where the fracture occurred, and then it goes through the
Speaker 1: lower part of his hand around his forefinger. Everson, take
Speaker 1: a close look there. What does that look like? Does
Speaker 1: that look like a little a little tape, A little
Speaker 1: seems like this a little security tape? Yeah, okay, that's
Speaker 1: all it is, all right. And it was forty passages
Speaker 1: for him after the walkthrough yesterday, Yes, maybe fifty today.
Speaker 1: That's pretty good. That's pretty good. You want to get
Speaker 1: that throwing motion back together again, muscle memory, right, And
Speaker 1: that's what he did before the game on Sunday. They
Speaker 1: estimated fifty passages and I approved that he was ready
Speaker 1: to go, they asked me. Also out on the field
Speaker 1: was Dalton Schultz. They listed him as a full participant
Speaker 1: yesterday his walk through practice. I think he was anticipating, yeah, yesterday, okay,
Speaker 1: and they were anticipating him to be full go today.
Speaker 1: I noticed that he was practicing with the brace on
Speaker 1: his right knee. I think he had taken it off.
Speaker 1: I remember they said, oh, he felt more comfortable without
Speaker 1: the brace, and now for practice, he's got it back
Speaker 1: on sou And he was out there during the early drills,
Speaker 1: so he wasn't like rehabbing on the side or anything
Speaker 1: the way Michael Gallop and Ezekiel Elliott always warm up
Speaker 1: now every day working on the And he was also
Speaker 1: add that he was on the jugs machine long after
Speaker 1: practice was over yesterday. Yes, okay, that's a good windows.
Speaker 1: He's prepping any better because them young dudes are coming
Speaker 1: on better watch out. And also James Washington was out
Speaker 1: on the Resistance Chords doing his rehab so in semi fijoko.
Speaker 1: Now I know it's a shoulder, but I saw him running.
Speaker 1: He was running sprints. Oh and I got your answer
Speaker 1: about injured reserve returns. You do get three weeks ramp
Speaker 1: up if you need them or they want you to
Speaker 1: have them, but you don't get those other two that
Speaker 1: we were talking about afterwards. Okay, they did away with that.
Speaker 1: So so James Washington Wednes they designate you ir return,
Speaker 1: then your three week window starts, just like NFI and
Speaker 1: PUP and his is not started yet. And his has
Speaker 1: not started yet. But daman Clark started two weeks ago, right,
Speaker 1: so this his will go through third game, right, and
Speaker 1: they get through next week because I think they started
Speaker 1: his on a Wednesday, So right, you go Wednesday to Wednesday. Yea,
Speaker 1: it was Wednesday, October fifth is when he started. So
Speaker 1: so that's enough we can we see in all likelihood?
Speaker 1: Then consider daman Clark probably will be active for the
Speaker 1: Chicago game, that's the possibility, or on the fifty three
Speaker 1: man roster, right, and you don't I mean you can
Speaker 1: put him on the roster right play right, But then
Speaker 1: he would have and here's the good thing, you would
Speaker 1: play a game if it worked that way, and then
Speaker 1: you got two weeks to recover, because you know how
Speaker 1: you feel you're not playing football for so long and
Speaker 1: you go out there and get banged around your body
Speaker 1: like you're in the car. I guess the idea that
Speaker 1: maybe they do some of this stuff by design, that
Speaker 1: they decide that they look at the calendar and they say, okay,
Speaker 1: let's start his three week windows so he could play
Speaker 1: in that Chicago game, and there's some method to the madness.
Speaker 1: And then you get a week bye. There's only I
Speaker 1: think one practice that week because they have to let
Speaker 1: him have Thursday, Friday, Saturday and Sunday during the bye.
Speaker 1: We have more rules ever since. I've got to see
Speaker 1: this guy play. Yes, guys are really talking well about
Speaker 1: this kid, and I haven't seen him play. Yeah, I've
Speaker 1: seen him at highlights from college all. I've seen him
Speaker 1: play at LSU. I mean not on the field, but
Speaker 1: on TV. And yeah, Mickey said the same thing about
Speaker 1: Michael Parsons. Yeah he was smart, Williams got and I'm
Speaker 1: still the same about him too. I can pick those
Speaker 1: first rounders. Yeah, no, I don't know about getting the
Speaker 1: fourth round. But no, no, no, no, you missed the
Speaker 1: first rounder this this time around, I must So let's
Speaker 1: let's just remember that you didn't. You didn't pick this
Speaker 1: first run. I didn't pick him, but I picked a tackle.
Speaker 1: See he keeps, he keeps. You kept saying we need
Speaker 1: a card. She didn't put a name with that. No,
Speaker 1: I had no idea who he was yet pick. How
Speaker 1: do you how do you feel about that first round pick? Now?
Speaker 1: Six games think career? It was a very good job
Speaker 1: that they drafted a tackle of. Can you imagine where
Speaker 1: this team would be if they had not made that
Speaker 1: first round draft pick and Tyrn Smith got hurt? Oh,
Speaker 1: who would be playing left tackle? If um if Tyrant
Speaker 1: if if they had not made that pick. Because the
Speaker 1: next tackle that went in the draft was the guy
Speaker 1: at Indianapolis who was brutal last week, Raymond Raymond. However,
Speaker 1: you didn't like him right, and he went in the
Speaker 1: third round. Okay, but they might not Martin. They might
Speaker 1: not if vac Martin, either either Zach Martin or Josh
Speaker 1: Ball or it would have been a veteran free agent
Speaker 1: out there swing tackle, a Tye Insecky type. Now they
Speaker 1: would who By the way, this is how things are
Speaker 1: going in Los Angeles with the Rams right now. They
Speaker 1: haven't signed him. Insecky last week signed the practice. You
Speaker 1: saw how bad things were with Indianapolis in that Thursday
Speaker 1: night game against Denver, Okay, with playing their rookie tackle.
Speaker 1: Well after that, they signed Insecki to their practice squad. Okay,
Speaker 1: they this weekend Joseph note Boom, the left tackle for
Speaker 1: the Rams, went down with an achilles injury. And did
Speaker 1: you see who the Rams signed off the Colts practice squad? Yes,
Speaker 1: no way, yes, Tie Insecki is now a member of
Speaker 1: the Los Angeles Rams. They would have and he's got
Speaker 1: to be on their roster for three weeks. They would
Speaker 1: have signed him off their practice squad, so he's going
Speaker 1: right to the fifty three. They would have signed Jason
Speaker 1: Peters sooner. Yeah, there you go. We were yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: but still we would that would have been the option.
Speaker 1: We still would have been looking at, uh what it's
Speaker 1: uh Connor Connor McGovern. Conor McGovern would probably move over
Speaker 1: to the other guard, right, and then you have Forny
Speaker 1: would come in and play. No, no, no, they would
Speaker 1: have had they would have been doing what they did
Speaker 1: in the preseason. They worked. They didn't work Tyler Smith
Speaker 1: that left tackled during the preseason, as you know, and
Speaker 1: so and then he was at guard, right, So there
Speaker 1: would have been Uh, there probably would have been another
Speaker 1: guard that they drafted or something. I don't know who
Speaker 1: was next on their board. They would have drafted an
Speaker 1: offensive linement of some sort. I think they would have
Speaker 1: done it before well let's go, well, they would have
Speaker 1: been very interesting to see. Yeah. Um, they would have
Speaker 1: had to have done something. They would However, the board
Speaker 1: was dry. I mean, there were so many tackles that
Speaker 1: went in the first round. That's why I'm saying we
Speaker 1: could have worked with what we have in house. McGregor
Speaker 1: moves over. But Mickey's right that Jason Peters would have
Speaker 1: been signed to play anyway ready, But you would have
Speaker 1: you would have signed him when did when you might
Speaker 1: have signed and got hurt. You might have signed him
Speaker 1: her before the first game, right, So you signed him
Speaker 1: then this is he was in basically when they signed season, right,
Speaker 1: I mean they signed him when after tiring got hurt.
Speaker 1: It was right after training camp. Here he would have
Speaker 1: been he would have been injured because he wasn't ready,
Speaker 1: So you would have had to go yeah, right at
Speaker 1: guard at gard Yeah, y not tackle. No. No, I
Speaker 1: wasn't mentioning that. No point of all. This jack board
Speaker 1: would be a tad tackle, Zach would be right. The
Speaker 1: point of all this is that Tyler Smith was drafted
Speaker 1: to eventually be the left tackle. Right. They didn't realize venture,
Speaker 1: hoping that it would not be his rookie year. And
Speaker 1: there he was thrown in right off the right off
Speaker 1: the bat, and I think he's done admirably. Yeah. And
Speaker 1: one other note from practice. The NFL medical checkup guy
Speaker 1: is back again making sure the guys on IR aren't practicing.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, a matter of fact, I saw him. He
Speaker 1: went up to Semi Fijoko and made him sign something like,
Speaker 1: this is your injury that's reported, you have to clarify it.
Speaker 1: He signed something for it. Well be his injury occurred
Speaker 1: in practice. Yeah, and so there wasn't an obvious injury.
Speaker 1: There wasn't an injury in a game, so you can
Speaker 1: understand why. Well they could look at practice video. By
Speaker 1: the way, how do you think these guys get fine
Speaker 1: for too much contact and they have to actually send
Speaker 1: them down here he's come every everything can be done,
Speaker 1: you know, No, they come digitally, they come and actually,
Speaker 1: so this is the second time in like three weeks
Speaker 1: he's been here. Yeah, by the way, but they just
Speaker 1: making sure you're not jacking around with the ir list.
Speaker 1: Before we go to break on the subject of Tyler Smith.
Speaker 1: Pretty interesting little matchup for him this week against another
Speaker 1: rookie first round draft pick, Aiden Hutchinson. Yes, yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: so now they Hutchinson, they move him sometimes he rushes
Speaker 1: from the right side, sometimes from the left side, so
Speaker 1: they find the soft spot that put him. That's one
Speaker 1: place to look. And that's kind of guy. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Dan Campbell too, Yeah, and Aaron Glenn. I knew he
Speaker 1: was like huge, you know, he had to be huge
Speaker 1: in high school. He did you see that? It's Frankenstein. Yes,
Speaker 1: he had guys they were like as him. That must
Speaker 1: have been the sixth man one before he transferred to
Speaker 1: What was it? What did you see? It was ABC?
Speaker 1: I think they had a film of his of his
Speaker 1: high school coach and or his mom and dad and yeah,
Speaker 1: mom and dad, high school. Yeah, but yeah, he looked, goodness,
Speaker 1: he was huge, jolly green giant. And they showed the
Speaker 1: guy that they interviewed he was on the team, and
Speaker 1: I'm going that guy played he came to his rib cage. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Lions on Sunday at noon, the traditional noon back to that.
Speaker 1: This is a this is a throwback week Cowboys playing
Speaker 1: a noon game on a s AM. I right, this
Speaker 1: is back to back noon games, probably Chicago coming up next.
Speaker 1: What does that say about about popularity? It's tells you
Speaker 1: that Sunday Night was the most watch game on NBC
Speaker 1: for a year or a whole year or whatever. I
Speaker 1: don't know what the time frame was, but and it
Speaker 1: was by a lot. So yeah, so they need to
Speaker 1: have us some more afternoon games, that's right. And I
Speaker 1: don't mean noon games. I mean it doesn't matter who
Speaker 1: they're playing. The Cowboys are playing the other way. It
Speaker 1: is all right, So are we gonna do you know,
Speaker 1: set this up? Are we gonna do it now? We're
Speaker 1: gonna do it next segment. Let's do it now. I
Speaker 1: think Chris has it set up. So Mickey off the
Speaker 1: Top talked about we said farewell to Rob Phillips yesterday,
Speaker 1: and we were talking about where Rob Phillips got his
Speaker 1: start to Dallas Cowboys dot com and it was a
Speaker 1: part of the original Talking Cowboys crew back in two
Speaker 1: thousand and four or five. Uh, and this clip is
Speaker 1: from training camp two thousand and five and ax card right, yeah,
Speaker 1: and uh it is a young Tony Romo and a
Speaker 1: younger Mickey Spagnol, younger Rob Phillips as well. So let's
Speaker 1: take a look and a listen. We go to Rob
Speaker 1: Phillips and we can get an email for uh Tony
Speaker 1: Romo here on Talking Cowboys, Rob. Pretty simple email for
Speaker 1: Tony from Dennis Truck and Amarilla, Texas. He wants to
Speaker 1: know Tony if something happened to Drew bledsoe, do you
Speaker 1: think you're far enough along in your progression that you're
Speaker 1: ready to take over and be the guy? All right?
Speaker 1: What was the answer? Oh? Absolutely? At the kids table,
Speaker 1: he was off to the side here we got that, yeah,
Speaker 1: and it was only big enough, I think for three people.
Speaker 1: But even when we did it through the whole two Rob, yeah,
Speaker 1: status to sit at the big table. He had a
Speaker 1: table to the side and it was it was just
Speaker 1: like an end table, right, It was a small and
Speaker 1: he was towering over it. And so I want to say,
Speaker 1: at one point at Valley Ranch and the little TV
Speaker 1: studio makeshift closet, a TV studio at Valley Ranch. I
Speaker 1: want to say there was an actual school desk, yes,
Speaker 1: but he said it it was the equivalent. Yes, it wasn't. No,
Speaker 1: it wasn't equivalent. It was a school desk. It was
Speaker 1: like a school desk, like one of those that you
Speaker 1: sat in in third grade, like that you had to
Speaker 1: sideways in. Right, You guys had a sponsor because I
Speaker 1: saw a Bank of America on his on his shirt.
Speaker 1: Oh well then maybe yeah, yeah, yeah, it was a
Speaker 1: rotating sponsor. Rotating sponsor, which still happens to this Okay,
Speaker 1: all right, all right, as we look over our shoulder
Speaker 1: here in the SWBC podcast studio, that's not bad video
Speaker 1: from eighteen years it was five seventeen, seventeen years ago. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's pretty good. We did have and I've got it somewhere.
Speaker 1: We interviewed Kevin Costner. Yes, we did at camp one
Speaker 1: year and he was obviously it was great. But when
Speaker 1: we talked on and on, I mean it was a
Speaker 1: fifteen twenty minute interview with Costner. So he was just
Speaker 1: out there watching the cowbell Thanks Cowboy fan. He was
Speaker 1: out there throwing the ball along. Yeah. I believe at
Speaker 1: the time Jerry was staying at his house like he
Speaker 1: rented out your rights. You're Santa Barbara. Yeah, that's right. Okay,
Speaker 1: So anyway, and we'll have another clip when we start
Speaker 1: talking about Dan Campbell by the way, okay, all right,
Speaker 1: we look forward to that. When do you want to
Speaker 1: start talking about Dan Campbell, Well, I have the cliff
Speaker 1: Cliff Chris. We were going to remind you that Dan
Speaker 1: Campbell played for Bill Parcels here for a couple of years, right, uh,
Speaker 1: and uh, we've got a clip of him. So that
Speaker 1: was that same day in training camp and we were
Speaker 1: interviewed the former Cowboys strength and conditioning coach, Joe Jurassic,
Speaker 1: and he was talking about guys rehabbing and Dan Campbell
Speaker 1: had appendicitis surgery before the start of training camp, and
Speaker 1: so he was working to the side, and we thought
Speaker 1: it would be kind of neat to see what Dan
Speaker 1: Campbell the football player looked like as opposed to Dan Campbell,
Speaker 1: the clean cut head coach of the Detroit Lions. Stuff.
Speaker 1: I want to ask you about Dan Campbell. He's coming along.
Speaker 1: Of course, he had the appendix removed. Unfortunately it was
Speaker 1: just a scope job and then they didn't have to
Speaker 1: do the major, major surgery on it. But he's already
Speaker 1: out here. You're working with him on a daily basis.
Speaker 1: He's in there doing squats, as as Parcel said, in
Speaker 1: the weight room, and he's really coming along, isn't it. Sure.
Speaker 1: That's one of the things that goes along with offseason conditioning,
Speaker 1: and what happens is you can't prevent all injuries and
Speaker 1: then you get something a little bit off the wall
Speaker 1: like the appendicitis that he gets, but conditioned after who
Speaker 1: goes into a surgery can get back on the field
Speaker 1: a lot quicker than someone who wasn't conditioned. So who
Speaker 1: is that guy? Joe Jurassic Yeah, yeah, he would. He
Speaker 1: would make sure he had a shaved head every time
Speaker 1: they started training camp. Yeah. Okay, So how how tall
Speaker 1: is dan Is Campbell? I want to say six four.
Speaker 1: He looks taller than that. Yeah. I think it's because
Speaker 1: he's big and tall. Yeah yeah, and there's nothing small
Speaker 1: about him at all. I think he was that big
Speaker 1: at high school. High school, his shoulder pads were huge.
Speaker 1: I mean his feet were huge. Listed at six five
Speaker 1: two sixty five, that's big, so you know, and one
Speaker 1: of the reasons Bill had him on the team was
Speaker 1: the fact that he was a good locker room guy
Speaker 1: and he was kind of one of Bill's guys. You
Speaker 1: know how Bill was big on his guys. Richie Anderson
Speaker 1: brought in guys that and he wanted them to set
Speaker 1: the tone in the locker room for him that he
Speaker 1: didn't have to go in there and do it. And
Speaker 1: that was Dan Campbell. And I don't think it's any surprise.
Speaker 1: I bet to Build Parcels that he has risen to
Speaker 1: the head coach of the Detroit Lions. Well, and basically
Speaker 1: he got his Parcels was instrumental in him getting his
Speaker 1: starting coaching. When you look back at Giant at his
Speaker 1: playing career, he started with the Giants, he was a
Speaker 1: third round and Campbell was a third round pick of
Speaker 1: the Giants in nineteen ninety nine, a M out of
Speaker 1: an m four years there and then when Parcells got
Speaker 1: the job here H three through OH five, so he
Speaker 1: was three years so he was tight end on the
Speaker 1: team when Jason Witten was drafted in two thousand and three,
Speaker 1: and then he went to the Lions for three years
Speaker 1: six to eight and then finished up with the Saints
Speaker 1: and OH nine and of course Sean Payton was the
Speaker 1: head coach there and so obviously he had the same
Speaker 1: time and he would have I guess he would have
Speaker 1: been with the Giants too. He would have had Dan
Speaker 1: Campbell with when Peyton was at the Giants his offensive
Speaker 1: coordinator right then, and then he did. He go from
Speaker 1: New Orleans too, and then to Miami, and so he
Speaker 1: was a coaching intern in twenty ten with the Dolphins
Speaker 1: tight ends coach. From twenty eleven to twenty fifteen, Joe Philbin,
Speaker 1: the Cowboys offensive line coach, became It was Tony Sperrano first,
Speaker 1: and so Sperrano was the head coach in twenty and ten,
Speaker 1: and then Joe Philbin replaced him in twenty twelve, I
Speaker 1: think it was, and he kept Campbell on his staff,
Speaker 1: and then of course Campbell when Philbin was let go
Speaker 1: in twenty fifteen, Campbell became the interim head coach of
Speaker 1: the Dolphins, and so he worked his way up there
Speaker 1: and then Sean Payton hired him as his assistant head
Speaker 1: coach and tight ends coach in New Orleans and was
Speaker 1: there from twenty sixteen to twenty twenty and then became
Speaker 1: the Lions head coach. He was there when Sean got suspended.
Speaker 1: I think peyton suspension would have been prior to prior
Speaker 1: to that, I'm pretty sure, all right. I just and
Speaker 1: I do remember the Miami part because they actually started
Speaker 1: playing a little bit better. Didn't have much to work
Speaker 1: with at that time. I was just wondering if he
Speaker 1: had been you know, covered a by a lot of
Speaker 1: really good coaches or not. Yeah, you know, because I
Speaker 1: know I was a part of many great coaches, but
Speaker 1: I did not have any I need to coach. You
Speaker 1: didn't want to. I never wanted to coach. I think
Speaker 1: it's because of the It wasn't the tutelage at all.
Speaker 1: That was amazing what I learned. But I also learned
Speaker 1: that they hated dealing with other people. And that's me, I,
Speaker 1: you know, I it's the ansillary, you know, people that
Speaker 1: you have to deal with, you know, those those people
Speaker 1: on the friends and the mothers, the fathers, the you know,
Speaker 1: the friend the other coaches, the bosses. You know, I
Speaker 1: can't deal with all this stuff. And it was twenty twelve,
Speaker 1: was a year twelve Peyton was suspended. Um and so
Speaker 1: those are kind of his mentors in coaching. It was
Speaker 1: they influenced. Yeah, going back He probably would have first
Speaker 1: met Peyton when Peyton was oc with the Giants, and
Speaker 1: then probably on his recommendation. He got signed to the
Speaker 1: Cowboys in twenty two thousand and three, and pass Sales
Speaker 1: knew what kinds of player he was and you just
Speaker 1: heard about it, how Yeah, you know he was that
Speaker 1: locker room guy, so right, you could just tell he
Speaker 1: was going to be a coach. It's just a great
Speaker 1: illustration of the networking that goes into getting those breaks. Um.
Speaker 1: And that's what his high schools coach said last night
Speaker 1: talking about this guy was made become a probably the
Speaker 1: coaching in high school. Well, yeah, he probably was. I mean,
Speaker 1: as big as he was, he probably knew that he
Speaker 1: could set a good example, right, I know, teammate and
Speaker 1: now they didn't. He whipped their ass right. Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's how you bring about the witness. I know Jason
Speaker 1: Witten has a lot of respect for him. Happen to
Speaker 1: run into Witton a month or so ago, and it's
Speaker 1: actually when Hard Knocks was going on, and so I
Speaker 1: asked him, so you're watching Dan on Hard Knox. He said, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm watching it. And in fact Witten said that he
Speaker 1: that Dan invited him up during training camp to come
Speaker 1: speak to the team, but he wasn't able to make
Speaker 1: it because he's coaching his high school team Liberty Christian
Speaker 1: and Argyle near here. And but what what Witton was
Speaker 1: saying about Campbell is what he was just hoping that
Speaker 1: they understand that their talent is not where it needs
Speaker 1: to be right now. But what he is doing is
Speaker 1: what was evident on Hard Knocks is the culture that
Speaker 1: he's establishing there in Detroit. And so the key on
Speaker 1: him is don't get off to a one in four start,
Speaker 1: which is what's happened. Uh. And and for them to
Speaker 1: understand that it takes some time to build that roster up. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and it will take some time. But I just think
Speaker 1: between him and Aaron Glenn, you know, and Aaron Glenn
Speaker 1: had a couple interviews for head coaching. Yeah too. Uh.
Speaker 1: Glenn was great when he was here in the locker room,
Speaker 1: he was and of course he came in also when parcels.
Speaker 1: He was one of those guys you can go and ask,
Speaker 1: you know, stuff about the game. And he didn't b
Speaker 1: s yet he told you basically he used to. He
Speaker 1: used to get on me. We'd be in the circle
Speaker 1: around his locker room, and everybody would leave and I'm
Speaker 1: still there, and he'd look at me and goes, okay,
Speaker 1: what do you want? Were he knew? Now here? It
Speaker 1: comes to good question, that's what That's what it was,
Speaker 1: all right. I'm looking at their coaching steff, see if
Speaker 1: I recognize any other names. He's got a bunch of
Speaker 1: players former players. Yeah. Uh, running back coach, Yeah, the
Speaker 1: running back coach. Well, Mark Brunel's the quarterbacks coach, right,
Speaker 1: oh nice. Deuce Staley is then styl They have a
Speaker 1: very spirited relationship. Yes, yes, on hard knocks, you go
Speaker 1: pretty competitive. What you're trying to say? An Joan Randall
Speaker 1: l is their wide receivers coach. Kelvin Shephard is the
Speaker 1: linebackers coach. So there you go, and we've got more
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Speaker 1: experience experience experience sound like my nephew experience. Okay, you're
Speaker 1: done with that, right? What else you got on your
Speaker 1: legal pad there? Well? The other thing, one last thing
Speaker 1: on on Campbell we were talking about him, uh playing
Speaker 1: six on six football. It was in Morgan, Texas. No, No,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I take it back. Uh he was raised
Speaker 1: on a family ranch where he helped raise cattle. The
Speaker 1: closest town to him was Morgan, Texas, which had one intersection,
Speaker 1: no stoplights, six to ten students per graduating class, and
Speaker 1: four hundred total residents. So to have the opportunity to
Speaker 1: play six on six football at Morgan High School can't.
Speaker 1: He'd ended up transferring to glenn Rose as a saw
Speaker 1: or so he could play eleven on eleven and his
Speaker 1: nickname was Boon as in doesn't say b o o
Speaker 1: n E boon boom M. I assume Morgan is fairly
Speaker 1: close to glenn Rose, which is southwest of Fort Worth. Yes, okay,
Speaker 1: Morgan Eagles. Glenn Rose is approximately, it says here, seventy
Speaker 1: miles from AT and T Stadium. Okay, So there you go.
Speaker 1: That's what we know about Dan Campbell. Now what else
Speaker 1: do we know about these Detroit Lions. No, well, I've
Speaker 1: got a time, I've got notes here talking about how
Speaker 1: well they have run the football, got the second ranked offense,
Speaker 1: third ranked in defense. And here are the totals. Against
Speaker 1: Philadelphia they ran for one hundred and eighty one yards.
Speaker 1: Against Washington, they ran for one hundred ninety one yards
Speaker 1: against Minnesota one thirty four, Seattle one forty five, and
Speaker 1: even though they got shut out by New England, they
Speaker 1: ran for one hundred and one yards. So if you
Speaker 1: put all that together with the exception you know of
Speaker 1: the New England game, well, with the New England game,
Speaker 1: they're averaging one hundred and fifty one yards a game.
Speaker 1: You said they were number three in defense, no rushing offense, Okay, defense,
Speaker 1: they're dead last. Yeah, yeah, that's been their problems. Those
Speaker 1: analytics didn't yet if I misspoke, I appreciate a Yeah
Speaker 1: you still apologized. Yeah, I'm still missing around right. So anyway, Uh,
Speaker 1: that's one thing the Cowboys obviously have to be aware
Speaker 1: of because it sounds like their other running back, DeAndre
Speaker 1: Swift is he had missed the previous two games. Uh,
Speaker 1: and Jamal is it Jamal Williams do. Yes, he was
Speaker 1: their lead guy after that, but it looked like he
Speaker 1: practiced on a limited basis yesterday, so we'll see if
Speaker 1: he's ready to get back. So you mentioned that they
Speaker 1: have the number three scoring offense in the league, number two. Okay,
Speaker 1: number was number eight rushing. I think as far as
Speaker 1: scoring offense or number three total offense, number two, they
Speaker 1: lost to Philadelphia thirty eight thirty five. They lost to
Speaker 1: Seattle forty eight to forty five, and so Dan Campbell
Speaker 1: has one of the highest scoring offenses in the league,
Speaker 1: but it doesn't compare to his old six man footballs.
Speaker 1: In Morgan, Texas As, the producer Supreme just sent me
Speaker 1: an update on their season, how it's going, and in
Speaker 1: their last game they beat Iridell one oh seven to
Speaker 1: eighty two. Games in six man football Texas is insane.
Speaker 1: Be in shape and you have to be able to
Speaker 1: do more than one thing, and usually they don't. They
Speaker 1: don't become one oh seven to eighty two scores because
Speaker 1: you I think there's a forty five point rule. If
Speaker 1: you get up by forty five, they call a game,
Speaker 1: and no, there's something like that. Usually the good teams
Speaker 1: win like seventy to twenty whatever. Do they wear equipment, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's not like flag football or seven on seven. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's full fullball watch six players. They are very multi talented.
Speaker 1: They can throw, run, kid, do all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1: It's usually the Tuesday of the state championship week a smaller,
Speaker 1: smaller field. They condense the field at and T Stadium,
Speaker 1: so it's at the numbers. But what you need to do,
Speaker 1: you need to make a trip out to on a
Speaker 1: Friday night watch six man where you've got the you know,
Speaker 1: under the dim lights of a Friday night. You know
Speaker 1: where you get the full taste. They don't even give
Speaker 1: them bright lights. That dim lights. I actually have a
Speaker 1: I have actually have a friend who he and his
Speaker 1: son used to make trips to watch six man football.
Speaker 1: It was like a father's son deal. Yeah, when when
Speaker 1: his kid was probably you know, seventh or eighth grade,
Speaker 1: and he loved watch going to watch him play that
Speaker 1: he was he was a player himself, and he just
Speaker 1: it was a father's son outing on a Friday night.
Speaker 1: They'd pick a six man game each season to go to.
Speaker 1: So all right, that's an idea. So it's not like, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's not like women's basketball in the day when you
Speaker 1: played half everybody was on their half of the core,
Speaker 1: on each end of the court. Yeah, you can't cross
Speaker 1: half way back. They were wearing the old view. They
Speaker 1: were wearing skirts. That's what they think. They were wearing
Speaker 1: skirts too, by the way, that's why it used to
Speaker 1: be Texas High school girls basketball, and well it was
Speaker 1: that all over. If they actually had it because growing
Speaker 1: up they didn't even have women's basketball in high school
Speaker 1: and I was so so tell me, the cow Boys
Speaker 1: are probably going to see certain things in regards to
Speaker 1: the money game. Yes, uh, inside handoff jet sweet probably
Speaker 1: be one of them. Absolutely, And we saw that, and
Speaker 1: they're gonna make Michael Parsons make a decision. You can't
Speaker 1: do it rolling out with the quarterback that's not that mobile.
Speaker 1: So there's some kind of way they're gonna still put
Speaker 1: him in a bind to where he's gonna have to
Speaker 1: make a decision. And I think that inside handoff move
Speaker 1: is going to be something that the lines are going
Speaker 1: to count on. That is why he needs to play linebacker.
Speaker 1: And if you want him rushing the quarterback as a
Speaker 1: defensive end and do it and it's third down and passing,
Speaker 1: he doesn't have them make those And Jared Goff won't
Speaker 1: create the problem that Jalen Hurts did with the RPOs. Like, Okay,
Speaker 1: Jared Goff's not gonna roll out. We did put him
Speaker 1: at middle linebacker a lot in the game, yes they did,
Speaker 1: and that's not where he had problems. So he had
Speaker 1: problems when they lined him up as the fifth guy
Speaker 1: on the defensive line. I think that when we settled down,
Speaker 1: actually when we put him at middle linebackers putting me
Speaker 1: on the line. Do you see how many times Golf
Speaker 1: has been sacked? I was just looking up seven. That's it.
Speaker 1: That's it, and the Cowboys lead the league with twenty four. Well,
Speaker 1: you know what he's gonna do. He's gonna get rid
Speaker 1: of the ball real fast. I mean, if he's smart,
Speaker 1: he's gonna have all quick throws and that's gonna be
Speaker 1: the m against the Cowboys defense in the future. Well,
Speaker 1: I want you to explain this to me though. So
Speaker 1: they're on pace for sixty eight sacks over seventeen games
Speaker 1: in a sixteen game season. The franchise single season record
Speaker 1: is sixty two. Said in nineteen eighty five, But that
Speaker 1: was the year you guys had a bunch of interceptions,
Speaker 1: wasn't it. Yeah. Yeah, So the sacks the interceptions, they go,
Speaker 1: they go hand in hand in hand. Yes, they did well.
Speaker 1: When you look at that, when you look at that season,
Speaker 1: we weren't the pourful, you know Cowboys that we were
Speaker 1: in the early eighties seventies. You could just kind of
Speaker 1: see things start to fall off a little bit and
Speaker 1: you know, our defensive line, they were really the strongest
Speaker 1: part of our team at that time. So Tom was
Speaker 1: just letting them loose. He let them loose, and I
Speaker 1: think at that time, by nineteen eighty five, he realized
Speaker 1: that we weren't just a bunch of knuckleheads back there,
Speaker 1: you know, just stumbling into interceptions. I think he realized
Speaker 1: that there was a method to the madness, and that
Speaker 1: finally became part of our m part of our culture
Speaker 1: was sacks and picks. It just took him a while
Speaker 1: to get there. I'm wondering, and I didn't I don't
Speaker 1: have my media guide. Probably shouldn't even say this, but
Speaker 1: sacks didn't become an official stat till eighty two, right
Speaker 1: nineteen eighty two. So I'm thinking even before that, in
Speaker 1: the heyday of two Tall Jones, Harvey Martin, Randy White,
Speaker 1: they might have had more than eighty one and the
Speaker 1: eighty one they probably did in eighty one, you think, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean we were it was crazy, you know, if
Speaker 1: we want, Like I said, we went back there getting toasted.
Speaker 1: We were picking it off. Yeah, and these guys were
Speaker 1: what they were, our our lifeline, that that front front
Speaker 1: for was our lifeline we had. We had we had
Speaker 1: Thornton also, Bruce Thornton and lar Bethea as our backups
Speaker 1: as well. So it wasn't just those four guys Dutton, White,
Speaker 1: Martin and Jones. You know, we had two backups that
Speaker 1: came in with a lot of energy. And you think
Speaker 1: back to Doomsday two, like seventy seven, they were awfully
Speaker 1: good defensively. No telling how many sacks they would have
Speaker 1: had that year that was a Super Bowl, Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: absolutely when they devastated Denver. So those video those games
Speaker 1: not available anywhere. Can we not go find them and
Speaker 1: track how many sacks they had? No, those guys that
Speaker 1: did the research, those two guys from somewhere in Kansas
Speaker 1: Man in Kansas City, Kansas. They went back and looked
Speaker 1: at all those games and they re uh number calibrated
Speaker 1: the number of sacks guys had, and in most cases
Speaker 1: they added them on. And it ended up being where
Speaker 1: the game? Where? Where is it? Where is it? Where
Speaker 1: they find it? No? Where, where's their work? Oh? Because
Speaker 1: if they if they've charted every game, we can, we can,
Speaker 1: we could have, we have, you can find it. They
Speaker 1: listed and they they adjusted Randy White's numbers they adjusted. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they adjusted Hobby's number, Harbies. They took twa two of
Speaker 1: his sex, they did. They took away two of Harby
Speaker 1: Morton sex. That's the that's a fact. I need to
Speaker 1: know where to find it. And the NFL wouldn't recognize it.
Speaker 1: Just you wouldn't recognize. They wouldn't recognize the numbers to
Speaker 1: change their numbers to make the sacks official. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: they went. They didn't. They didn't trust that they did them.
Speaker 1: I want to say they went all the way. They
Speaker 1: didn't pay them. Yeah, they did it on their own
Speaker 1: and wrote I don't know if they wrote a book,
Speaker 1: but they did to study and I think they might
Speaker 1: have gone back to all the way to nineteen. It
Speaker 1: seems like the NFL would want to collaborate with him.
Speaker 1: And yeah, no, that was part of the story. You
Speaker 1: can look it up, not now, but you can see
Speaker 1: you can search for it. Well, no, producer, Chris will
Speaker 1: tell you, we're out of time already. I want to
Speaker 1: know past breakups too, and they had it listed because
Speaker 1: I want past and they changed did they only do sacks?
Speaker 1: They did sacks, and they changed the list of all
Speaker 1: time leaders in sacks without the NFL, and they compared
Speaker 1: it to what eighty two was, and a lot of
Speaker 1: guys moved way up, but once again not approved, like
Speaker 1: Jeff Coates moved up because he lost. Well, we can
Speaker 1: approve it a year. NFL ain't trying to hear it. Yeah, obviously, yeah, obviously.
Speaker 1: All right, I'm gonna go out a mission. You go
Speaker 1: find find it, Okay, all right, and we'll be back
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