WEBVTT - Mick Shots: Shots Galore

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<v Speaker 1>The following. Here's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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<v Speaker 1>and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Cowboys. This is Mick Shot,

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<v Speaker 1>screening live on Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the official

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<v Speaker 1>Dallas Cowboys at now Here are Bill Jones, Everson Wolves,

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<v Speaker 1>and Nicky Spagnola and time for a throwback Thursday edition

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<v Speaker 1>of mix Shots inside the s WBC podcast studio here

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<v Speaker 1>at the Star in Frisco, as the Dallas Cowboys are

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<v Speaker 1>on the practice field as we speak, We're going to

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<v Speaker 1>throw it back to the starting quarterback to start on

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<v Speaker 1>Sunday against the Detroit Lions, and Mickey. We've got other

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<v Speaker 1>things we'll throwback over the course of the next forty

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<v Speaker 1>five Absolutely, maybe when we begin the second segment and

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<v Speaker 1>actually show what we were talking about yesterday with Rob

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<v Speaker 1>Phillips's all right, take you back in time, and it

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<v Speaker 1>will be not only Rob Phillips back in the day,

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<v Speaker 1>but Tony Romo back in the day also before he

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<v Speaker 1>became the Cowboys starting quarterback. And along with that, there's

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<v Speaker 1>a clip in this show that we were doing of

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<v Speaker 1>Dan Camp. We gotta get to we gotta get to

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<v Speaker 1>the critical stuff because everybody out there is waiting with

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<v Speaker 1>bated breath for Dak Prescott to come running out for

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<v Speaker 1>a practice in pads and when I bad breath, yeah, anxious, anxious, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>anticipatory breath. Okay, I got you know, the TV guys

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<v Speaker 1>have got to get that shot of him running out right,

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<v Speaker 1>and he hadn't yet done it because because they're doing

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<v Speaker 1>quarterback school inside doors. So the offensive linemen came out

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<v Speaker 1>and this was funny. So they're coming out and they're

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<v Speaker 1>kind of two by two and the cameramen are basically

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<v Speaker 1>blocking the field. They got in single file and found

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<v Speaker 1>a hole and all ten of them Will ran right

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<v Speaker 1>through this little crevice between the cameras. I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>where are they gonna go? And they did it single

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<v Speaker 1>file and the cameramen didn't move and they didn't avoid him.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, this is our practice field. We're going straight ahead.

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<v Speaker 1>So now they were trying to anticipate where the quarterbacks

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<v Speaker 1>were going to go when they came running out. I

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<v Speaker 1>would imagine by now they've probably done it. But this

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<v Speaker 1>is practice, right, this is practice. There was no music

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<v Speaker 1>play running out for practice. I would call, you know, well,

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<v Speaker 1>they already laboring the point, They already warmed up inside

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<v Speaker 1>like the quarterback school, and then they come out because

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<v Speaker 1>they're not a part of special teams. Basically at that

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<v Speaker 1>point or stretching, they stretched themselves. I just wanted to do.

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<v Speaker 1>Does Bill have something to tell us today about your

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<v Speaker 1>elevator ride down here? Oh I got a feeling. I

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<v Speaker 1>know what it was. Yeah, talked there was nobody on

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<v Speaker 1>the elevatorlev No, no, liar, he's liar. Well there are

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<v Speaker 1>four elevators, yeah, and they can all go down at

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<v Speaker 1>the same time. Yeah, I know, but this is too

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<v Speaker 1>much of a coincidence. Well you were we walked out

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<v Speaker 1>at the same time. Yeah, yes, we weren't. We didn't

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<v Speaker 1>walk out of the elevator. We walked out of the

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<v Speaker 1>not wasn't the same elevator, but we walked. I saw

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<v Speaker 1>him as I got off the elevator, and well, what

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<v Speaker 1>you need to understand, Everson, when you own the building,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a special parking spot underneath where So that didn't

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<v Speaker 1>just walk out, That's right, So I just walked out

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<v Speaker 1>my special parking spots, right. No, he's talking about Jerry

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<v Speaker 1>and I Jerry, And wasn't just Jerry. It was Jerry.

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<v Speaker 1>That was That was a security detail. I thought that

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<v Speaker 1>was your security detail. Yeah, so I've got secrets to tell. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>secrets not to tell. He asked all the questions, did

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<v Speaker 1>not elevator right, he did not invite me out on

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<v Speaker 1>the practice. Where did you see us? Where were you? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>you were coming out of my way. You were coming

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<v Speaker 1>out Jerry walked on the field and then you came

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<v Speaker 1>around the corner right behind. I saw you play, I

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<v Speaker 1>saw you entering the Everson gets his workout walking down.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Well, sorry, I got no stories to tell.

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<v Speaker 1>Nothing good, right, No, no, all right. So so dek

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<v Speaker 1>Prescott expected to take the first team reps in padded

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<v Speaker 1>practice today, So that'll be the first time since the

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<v Speaker 1>Thursday before the season opener. And I think that's what

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<v Speaker 1>maybe you know you can do all the time. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you can jump in on this, Everson, but you can

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<v Speaker 1>do all the throwing you want as a quarterback, but

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<v Speaker 1>you gotta get under center and actually run plays and

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<v Speaker 1>not throw to basically against air with wide receivers running

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<v Speaker 1>routes for you. It's the closest he's gonna get right

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<v Speaker 1>to real competition until the real competitional Sunday. Yeah, you

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<v Speaker 1>want to see where the dB is gonna be you know,

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<v Speaker 1>there's the picture to come out yet. There it is.

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<v Speaker 1>Dak has run out on the practice field. Now, this

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<v Speaker 1>update from the practice field in Fresco, Texas is a

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<v Speaker 1>regular Dak Prescott has left the building and entered the field,

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<v Speaker 1>and he has a football tucked under his left arm.

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<v Speaker 1>A So what's on his right thumb? Sure it's that

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<v Speaker 1>blow up as plecture here he can't see in this

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<v Speaker 1>particular picture tweeted out by John Machoda, you cannot see

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<v Speaker 1>the right thumb. But there'll be some black tape on it. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll take home for it. And it just goes around

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<v Speaker 1>where the fracture occurred, and then it goes through the

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<v Speaker 1>lower part of his hand around his forefinger. Everson, take

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<v Speaker 1>a close look there. What does that look like? Does

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<v Speaker 1>that look like a little a little tape, A little

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<v Speaker 1>seems like this a little security tape? Yeah, okay, that's

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<v Speaker 1>all it is, all right. And it was forty passages

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<v Speaker 1>for him after the walkthrough yesterday, Yes, maybe fifty today.

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<v Speaker 1>That's pretty good. That's pretty good. You want to get

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<v Speaker 1>that throwing motion back together again, muscle memory, right, And

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<v Speaker 1>that's what he did before the game on Sunday. They

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<v Speaker 1>estimated fifty passages and I approved that he was ready

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<v Speaker 1>to go, they asked me. Also out on the field

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<v Speaker 1>was Dalton Schultz. They listed him as a full participant

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<v Speaker 1>yesterday his walk through practice. I think he was anticipating, yeah, yesterday, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>and they were anticipating him to be full go today.

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<v Speaker 1>I noticed that he was practicing with the brace on

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<v Speaker 1>his right knee. I think he had taken it off.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember they said, oh, he felt more comfortable without

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<v Speaker 1>the brace, and now for practice, he's got it back

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<v Speaker 1>on sou And he was out there during the early drills,

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<v Speaker 1>so he wasn't like rehabbing on the side or anything

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<v Speaker 1>the way Michael Gallop and Ezekiel Elliott always warm up

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<v Speaker 1>now every day working on the And he was also

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<v Speaker 1>add that he was on the jugs machine long after

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<v Speaker 1>practice was over yesterday. Yes, okay, that's a good windows.

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<v Speaker 1>He's prepping any better because them young dudes are coming

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<v Speaker 1>on better watch out. And also James Washington was out

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<v Speaker 1>on the Resistance Chords doing his rehab so in semi fijoko.

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<v Speaker 1>Now I know it's a shoulder, but I saw him running.

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<v Speaker 1>He was running sprints. Oh and I got your answer

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<v Speaker 1>about injured reserve returns. You do get three weeks ramp

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<v Speaker 1>up if you need them or they want you to

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<v Speaker 1>have them, but you don't get those other two that

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<v Speaker 1>we were talking about afterwards. Okay, they did away with that.

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<v Speaker 1>So so James Washington Wednes they designate you ir return,

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<v Speaker 1>then your three week window starts, just like NFI and

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<v Speaker 1>PUP and his is not started yet. And his has

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<v Speaker 1>not started yet. But daman Clark started two weeks ago, right,

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<v Speaker 1>so this his will go through third game, right, and

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<v Speaker 1>they get through next week because I think they started

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<v Speaker 1>his on a Wednesday, So right, you go Wednesday to Wednesday. Yea,

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<v Speaker 1>it was Wednesday, October fifth is when he started. So

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<v Speaker 1>so that's enough we can we see in all likelihood?

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<v Speaker 1>Then consider daman Clark probably will be active for the

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<v Speaker 1>Chicago game, that's the possibility, or on the fifty three

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<v Speaker 1>man roster, right, and you don't I mean you can

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<v Speaker 1>put him on the roster right play right, But then

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<v Speaker 1>he would have and here's the good thing, you would

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<v Speaker 1>play a game if it worked that way, and then

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<v Speaker 1>you got two weeks to recover, because you know how

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<v Speaker 1>you feel you're not playing football for so long and

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<v Speaker 1>you go out there and get banged around your body

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<v Speaker 1>like you're in the car. I guess the idea that

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<v Speaker 1>maybe they do some of this stuff by design, that

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<v Speaker 1>they decide that they look at the calendar and they say, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>let's start his three week windows so he could play

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<v Speaker 1>in that Chicago game, and there's some method to the madness.

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<v Speaker 1>And then you get a week bye. There's only I

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<v Speaker 1>think one practice that week because they have to let

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<v Speaker 1>him have Thursday, Friday, Saturday and Sunday during the bye.

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<v Speaker 1>We have more rules ever since. I've got to see

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<v Speaker 1>this guy play. Yes, guys are really talking well about

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<v Speaker 1>this kid, and I haven't seen him play. Yeah, I've

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<v Speaker 1>seen him at highlights from college all. I've seen him

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<v Speaker 1>play at LSU. I mean not on the field, but

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<v Speaker 1>on TV. And yeah, Mickey said the same thing about

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<v Speaker 1>Michael Parsons. Yeah he was smart, Williams got and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>still the same about him too. I can pick those

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<v Speaker 1>first rounders. Yeah, no, I don't know about getting the

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<v Speaker 1>fourth round. But no, no, no, no, you missed the

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<v Speaker 1>first rounder this this time around, I must So let's

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<v Speaker 1>let's just remember that you didn't. You didn't pick this

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<v Speaker 1>first run. I didn't pick him, but I picked a tackle.

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<v Speaker 1>See he keeps, he keeps. You kept saying we need

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<v Speaker 1>a card. She didn't put a name with that. No,

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<v Speaker 1>I had no idea who he was yet pick. How

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<v Speaker 1>do you how do you feel about that first round pick? Now?

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<v Speaker 1>Six games think career? It was a very good job

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<v Speaker 1>that they drafted a tackle of. Can you imagine where

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<v Speaker 1>this team would be if they had not made that

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<v Speaker 1>first round draft pick and Tyrn Smith got hurt? Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>who would be playing left tackle? If um if Tyrant

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<v Speaker 1>if if they had not made that pick. Because the

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<v Speaker 1>next tackle that went in the draft was the guy

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<v Speaker 1>at Indianapolis who was brutal last week, Raymond Raymond. However,

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<v Speaker 1>you didn't like him right, and he went in the

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<v Speaker 1>third round. Okay, but they might not Martin. They might

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<v Speaker 1>not if vac Martin, either either Zach Martin or Josh

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<v Speaker 1>Ball or it would have been a veteran free agent

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<v Speaker 1>out there swing tackle, a Tye Insecky type. Now they

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<v Speaker 1>would who By the way, this is how things are

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<v Speaker 1>going in Los Angeles with the Rams right now. They

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<v Speaker 1>haven't signed him. Insecky last week signed the practice. You

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<v Speaker 1>saw how bad things were with Indianapolis in that Thursday

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<v Speaker 1>night game against Denver, Okay, with playing their rookie tackle.

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<v Speaker 1>Well after that, they signed Insecki to their practice squad. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>they this weekend Joseph note Boom, the left tackle for

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<v Speaker 1>the Rams, went down with an achilles injury. And did

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<v Speaker 1>you see who the Rams signed off the Colts practice squad? Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>no way, yes, Tie Insecki is now a member of

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<v Speaker 1>the Los Angeles Rams. They would have and he's got

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<v Speaker 1>to be on their roster for three weeks. They would

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<v Speaker 1>have signed him off their practice squad, so he's going

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<v Speaker 1>right to the fifty three. They would have signed Jason

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<v Speaker 1>Peters sooner. Yeah, there you go. We were yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but still we would that would have been the option.

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<v Speaker 1>We still would have been looking at, uh what it's

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<v Speaker 1>uh Connor Connor McGovern. Conor McGovern would probably move over

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<v Speaker 1>to the other guard, right, and then you have Forny

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<v Speaker 1>would come in and play. No, no, no, they would

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<v Speaker 1>have had they would have been doing what they did

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<v Speaker 1>in the preseason. They worked. They didn't work Tyler Smith

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<v Speaker 1>that left tackled during the preseason, as you know, and

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<v Speaker 1>so and then he was at guard, right, So there

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<v Speaker 1>would have been Uh, there probably would have been another

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<v Speaker 1>guard that they drafted or something. I don't know who

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<v Speaker 1>was next on their board. They would have drafted an

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<v Speaker 1>offensive linement of some sort. I think they would have

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<v Speaker 1>done it before well let's go, well, they would have

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<v Speaker 1>been very interesting to see. Yeah. Um, they would have

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<v Speaker 1>had to have done something. They would However, the board

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<v Speaker 1>was dry. I mean, there were so many tackles that

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<v Speaker 1>went in the first round. That's why I'm saying we

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<v Speaker 1>could have worked with what we have in house. McGregor

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<v Speaker 1>moves over. But Mickey's right that Jason Peters would have

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<v Speaker 1>been signed to play anyway ready, But you would have

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<v Speaker 1>you would have signed him when did when you might

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<v Speaker 1>have signed and got hurt. You might have signed him

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<v Speaker 1>her before the first game, right, So you signed him

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<v Speaker 1>then this is he was in basically when they signed season, right,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean they signed him when after tiring got hurt.

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<v Speaker 1>It was right after training camp. Here he would have

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<v Speaker 1>been he would have been injured because he wasn't ready,

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<v Speaker 1>So you would have had to go yeah, right at

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<v Speaker 1>guard at gard Yeah, y not tackle. No. No, I

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't mentioning that. No point of all. This jack board

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<v Speaker 1>would be a tad tackle, Zach would be right. The

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<v Speaker 1>point of all this is that Tyler Smith was drafted

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<v Speaker 1>to eventually be the left tackle. Right. They didn't realize venture,

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<v Speaker 1>hoping that it would not be his rookie year. And

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<v Speaker 1>there he was thrown in right off the right off

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<v Speaker 1>the bat, and I think he's done admirably. Yeah. And

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<v Speaker 1>one other note from practice. The NFL medical checkup guy

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<v Speaker 1>is back again making sure the guys on IR aren't practicing.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh okay, a matter of fact, I saw him. He

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<v Speaker 1>went up to Semi Fijoko and made him sign something like,

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<v Speaker 1>this is your injury that's reported, you have to clarify it.

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<v Speaker 1>He signed something for it. Well be his injury occurred

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<v Speaker 1>in practice. Yeah, and so there wasn't an obvious injury.

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<v Speaker 1>There wasn't an injury in a game, so you can

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<v Speaker 1>understand why. Well they could look at practice video. By

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<v Speaker 1>the way, how do you think these guys get fine

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<v Speaker 1>for too much contact and they have to actually send

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<v Speaker 1>them down here he's come every everything can be done,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, No, they come digitally, they come and actually,

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<v Speaker 1>so this is the second time in like three weeks

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<v Speaker 1>he's been here. Yeah, by the way, but they just

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<v Speaker 1>making sure you're not jacking around with the ir list.

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<v Speaker 1>Before we go to break on the subject of Tyler Smith.

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<v Speaker 1>Pretty interesting little matchup for him this week against another

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<v Speaker 1>rookie first round draft pick, Aiden Hutchinson. Yes, yes, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so now they Hutchinson, they move him sometimes he rushes

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<v Speaker 1>from the right side, sometimes from the left side, so

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<v Speaker 1>they find the soft spot that put him. That's one

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<v Speaker 1>place to look. And that's kind of guy. Yeah. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Dan Campbell too, Yeah, and Aaron Glenn. I knew he

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<v Speaker 1>was like huge, you know, he had to be huge

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<v Speaker 1>in high school. He did you see that? It's Frankenstein. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>he had guys they were like as him. That must

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<v Speaker 1>have been the sixth man one before he transferred to

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<v Speaker 1>What was it? What did you see? It was ABC?

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<v Speaker 1>I think they had a film of his of his

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<v Speaker 1>high school coach and or his mom and dad and yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>mom and dad, high school. Yeah, but yeah, he looked, goodness,

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<v Speaker 1>he was huge, jolly green giant. And they showed the

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<v Speaker 1>guy that they interviewed he was on the team, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going that guy played he came to his rib cage. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Lions on Sunday at noon, the traditional noon back to that.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a this is a throwback week Cowboys playing

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<v Speaker 1>a noon game on a s AM. I right, this

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<v Speaker 1>is back to back noon games, probably Chicago coming up next.

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<v Speaker 1>don't know what the time frame was, but and it

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<v Speaker 1>was by a lot. So yeah, so they need to

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<v Speaker 1>have us some more afternoon games, that's right. And I

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<v Speaker 1>don't mean noon games. I mean it doesn't matter who

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<v Speaker 1>they're playing. The Cowboys are playing the other way. It

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<v Speaker 1>is all right, So are we gonna do you know,

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<v Speaker 1>set this up? Are we gonna do it now? We're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna do it next segment. Let's do it now. I

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<v Speaker 1>think Chris has it set up. So Mickey off the

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<v Speaker 1>Top talked about we said farewell to Rob Phillips yesterday,

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<v Speaker 1>and we were talking about where Rob Phillips got his

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<v Speaker 1>start to Dallas Cowboys dot com and it was a

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<v Speaker 1>part of the original Talking Cowboys crew back in two

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<v Speaker 1>thousand and four or five. Uh, and this clip is

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<v Speaker 1>from training camp two thousand and five and ax card right, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and uh it is a young Tony Romo and a

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<v Speaker 1>younger Mickey Spagnol, younger Rob Phillips as well. So let's

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<v Speaker 1>take a look and a listen. We go to Rob

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<v Speaker 1>Phillips and we can get an email for uh Tony

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<v Speaker 1>Romo here on Talking Cowboys, Rob. Pretty simple email for

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<v Speaker 1>Tony from Dennis Truck and Amarilla, Texas. He wants to

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<v Speaker 1>know Tony if something happened to Drew bledsoe, do you

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<v Speaker 1>think you're far enough along in your progression that you're

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<v Speaker 1>ready to take over and be the guy? All right?

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<v Speaker 1>What was the answer? Oh? Absolutely? At the kids table,

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<v Speaker 1>he was off to the side here we got that, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was only big enough, I think for three people.

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<v Speaker 1>But even when we did it through the whole two Rob, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>status to sit at the big table. He had a

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<v Speaker 1>table to the side and it was it was just

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<v Speaker 1>like an end table, right, It was a small and

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<v Speaker 1>he was towering over it. And so I want to say,

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<v Speaker 1>at one point at Valley Ranch and the little TV

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<v Speaker 1>studio makeshift closet, a TV studio at Valley Ranch. I

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<v Speaker 1>want to say there was an actual school desk, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>but he said it it was the equivalent. Yes, it wasn't. No,

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<v Speaker 1>it wasn't equivalent. It was a school desk. It was

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<v Speaker 1>like a school desk, like one of those that you

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<v Speaker 1>sat in in third grade, like that you had to

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<v Speaker 1>sideways in. Right, You guys had a sponsor because I

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<v Speaker 1>saw a Bank of America on his on his shirt.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh well then maybe yeah, yeah, yeah, it was a

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<v Speaker 1>rotating sponsor. Rotating sponsor, which still happens to this Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, all right, as we look over our shoulder

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<v Speaker 1>here in the SWBC podcast studio, that's not bad video

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<v Speaker 1>from eighteen years it was five seventeen, seventeen years ago. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's pretty good. We did have and I've got it somewhere.

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<v Speaker 1>We interviewed Kevin Costner. Yes, we did at camp one

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<v Speaker 1>year and he was obviously it was great. But when

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<v Speaker 1>we talked on and on, I mean it was a

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen twenty minute interview with Costner. So he was just

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<v Speaker 1>out there watching the cowbell Thanks Cowboy fan. He was

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<v Speaker 1>out there throwing the ball along. Yeah. I believe at

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<v Speaker 1>the time Jerry was staying at his house like he

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<v Speaker 1>rented out your rights. You're Santa Barbara. Yeah, that's right. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So anyway, and we'll have another clip when we start

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<v Speaker 1>talking about Dan Campbell by the way, okay, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>we look forward to that. When do you want to

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<v Speaker 1>start talking about Dan Campbell, Well, I have the cliff

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<v Speaker 1>Cliff Chris. We were going to remind you that Dan

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<v Speaker 1>Campbell played for Bill Parcels here for a couple of years, right, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>and uh, we've got a clip of him. So that

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<v Speaker 1>was that same day in training camp and we were

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<v Speaker 1>interviewed the former Cowboys strength and conditioning coach, Joe Jurassic,

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<v Speaker 1>and he was talking about guys rehabbing and Dan Campbell

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<v Speaker 1>had appendicitis surgery before the start of training camp, and

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<v Speaker 1>so he was working to the side, and we thought

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<v Speaker 1>it would be kind of neat to see what Dan

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<v Speaker 1>Campbell the football player looked like as opposed to Dan Campbell,

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<v Speaker 1>the clean cut head coach of the Detroit Lions. Stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to ask you about Dan Campbell. He's coming along.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, he had the appendix removed. Unfortunately it was

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<v Speaker 1>just a scope job and then they didn't have to

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<v Speaker 1>do the major, major surgery on it. But he's already

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<v Speaker 1>out here. You're working with him on a daily basis.

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<v Speaker 1>He's in there doing squats, as as Parcel said, in

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<v Speaker 1>the weight room, and he's really coming along, isn't it. Sure.

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<v Speaker 1>That's one of the things that goes along with offseason conditioning,

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<v Speaker 1>and what happens is you can't prevent all injuries and

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<v Speaker 1>then you get something a little bit off the wall

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<v Speaker 1>like the appendicitis that he gets, but conditioned after who

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<v Speaker 1>goes into a surgery can get back on the field

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<v Speaker 1>a lot quicker than someone who wasn't conditioned. So who

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<v Speaker 1>is that guy? Joe Jurassic Yeah, yeah, he would. He

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<v Speaker 1>would make sure he had a shaved head every time

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<v Speaker 1>they started training camp. Yeah. Okay, So how how tall

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<v Speaker 1>is dan Is Campbell? I want to say six four.

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<v Speaker 1>He looks taller than that. Yeah. I think it's because

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<v Speaker 1>he's big and tall. Yeah yeah, and there's nothing small

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<v Speaker 1>about him at all. I think he was that big

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<v Speaker 1>at high school. High school, his shoulder pads were huge.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean his feet were huge. Listed at six five

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<v Speaker 1>two sixty five, that's big, so you know, and one

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<v Speaker 1>of the reasons Bill had him on the team was

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that he was a good locker room guy

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<v Speaker 1>and he was kind of one of Bill's guys. You

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<v Speaker 1>know how Bill was big on his guys. Richie Anderson

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<v Speaker 1>brought in guys that and he wanted them to set

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<v Speaker 1>the tone in the locker room for him that he

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<v Speaker 1>didn't have to go in there and do it. And

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<v Speaker 1>that was Dan Campbell. And I don't think it's any surprise.

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<v Speaker 1>I bet to Build Parcels that he has risen to

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<v Speaker 1>the head coach of the Detroit Lions. Well, and basically

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<v Speaker 1>he got his Parcels was instrumental in him getting his

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<v Speaker 1>starting coaching. When you look back at Giant at his

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<v Speaker 1>playing career, he started with the Giants, he was a

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<v Speaker 1>third round and Campbell was a third round pick of

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<v Speaker 1>the Giants in nineteen ninety nine, a M out of

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<v Speaker 1>an m four years there and then when Parcells got

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<v Speaker 1>the job here H three through OH five, so he

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<v Speaker 1>was three years so he was tight end on the

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<v Speaker 1>team when Jason Witten was drafted in two thousand and three,

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<v Speaker 1>and then he went to the Lions for three years

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<v Speaker 1>six to eight and then finished up with the Saints

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<v Speaker 1>and OH nine and of course Sean Payton was the

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<v Speaker 1>head coach there and so obviously he had the same

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<v Speaker 1>time and he would have I guess he would have

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<v Speaker 1>been with the Giants too. He would have had Dan

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<v Speaker 1>Campbell with when Peyton was at the Giants his offensive

0:27:07.600 --> 0:27:10.880
<v Speaker 1>coordinator right then, and then he did. He go from

0:27:11.040 --> 0:27:13.399
<v Speaker 1>New Orleans too, and then to Miami, and so he

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<v Speaker 1>was a coaching intern in twenty ten with the Dolphins

0:27:17.680 --> 0:27:22.520
<v Speaker 1>tight ends coach. From twenty eleven to twenty fifteen, Joe Philbin,

0:27:22.880 --> 0:27:27.679
<v Speaker 1>the Cowboys offensive line coach, became It was Tony Sperrano first,

0:27:28.200 --> 0:27:31.560
<v Speaker 1>and so Sperrano was the head coach in twenty and ten,

0:27:32.720 --> 0:27:36.480
<v Speaker 1>and then Joe Philbin replaced him in twenty twelve, I

0:27:36.520 --> 0:27:39.360
<v Speaker 1>think it was, and he kept Campbell on his staff,

0:27:39.720 --> 0:27:42.199
<v Speaker 1>and then of course Campbell when Philbin was let go

0:27:42.240 --> 0:27:45.240
<v Speaker 1>in twenty fifteen, Campbell became the interim head coach of

0:27:45.320 --> 0:27:48.120
<v Speaker 1>the Dolphins, and so he worked his way up there

0:27:48.520 --> 0:27:52.600
<v Speaker 1>and then Sean Payton hired him as his assistant head

0:27:52.600 --> 0:27:55.240
<v Speaker 1>coach and tight ends coach in New Orleans and was

0:27:55.240 --> 0:27:58.920
<v Speaker 1>there from twenty sixteen to twenty twenty and then became

0:27:58.960 --> 0:28:06.000
<v Speaker 1>the Lions head coach. He was there when Sean got suspended.

0:28:08.040 --> 0:28:12.320
<v Speaker 1>I think peyton suspension would have been prior to prior

0:28:12.359 --> 0:28:16.359
<v Speaker 1>to that, I'm pretty sure, all right. I just and

0:28:16.440 --> 0:28:19.840
<v Speaker 1>I do remember the Miami part because they actually started

0:28:19.880 --> 0:28:23.240
<v Speaker 1>playing a little bit better. Didn't have much to work

0:28:23.280 --> 0:28:26.280
<v Speaker 1>with at that time. I was just wondering if he

0:28:26.320 --> 0:28:31.159
<v Speaker 1>had been you know, covered a by a lot of

0:28:31.200 --> 0:28:34.760
<v Speaker 1>really good coaches or not. Yeah, you know, because I

0:28:35.040 --> 0:28:37.919
<v Speaker 1>know I was a part of many great coaches, but

0:28:38.000 --> 0:28:42.680
<v Speaker 1>I did not have any I need to coach. You

0:28:42.720 --> 0:28:45.160
<v Speaker 1>didn't want to. I never wanted to coach. I think

0:28:45.200 --> 0:28:48.040
<v Speaker 1>it's because of the It wasn't the tutelage at all.

0:28:48.080 --> 0:28:51.320
<v Speaker 1>That was amazing what I learned. But I also learned

0:28:51.560 --> 0:28:56.200
<v Speaker 1>that they hated dealing with other people. And that's me, I,

0:28:56.880 --> 0:29:01.400
<v Speaker 1>you know, I it's the ansillary, you know, people that

0:29:01.440 --> 0:29:03.520
<v Speaker 1>you have to deal with, you know, those those people

0:29:03.520 --> 0:29:06.920
<v Speaker 1>on the friends and the mothers, the fathers, the you know,

0:29:06.960 --> 0:29:10.160
<v Speaker 1>the friend the other coaches, the bosses. You know, I

0:29:10.200 --> 0:29:12.440
<v Speaker 1>can't deal with all this stuff. And it was twenty twelve,

0:29:12.560 --> 0:29:16.800
<v Speaker 1>was a year twelve Peyton was suspended. Um and so

0:29:17.360 --> 0:29:20.800
<v Speaker 1>those are kind of his mentors in coaching. It was

0:29:21.000 --> 0:29:25.360
<v Speaker 1>they influenced. Yeah, going back He probably would have first

0:29:25.360 --> 0:29:29.080
<v Speaker 1>met Peyton when Peyton was oc with the Giants, and

0:29:29.120 --> 0:29:33.360
<v Speaker 1>then probably on his recommendation. He got signed to the

0:29:33.360 --> 0:29:38.000
<v Speaker 1>Cowboys in twenty two thousand and three, and pass Sales

0:29:38.080 --> 0:29:40.360
<v Speaker 1>knew what kinds of player he was and you just

0:29:40.560 --> 0:29:42.520
<v Speaker 1>heard about it, how Yeah, you know he was that

0:29:42.600 --> 0:29:44.960
<v Speaker 1>locker room guy, so right, you could just tell he

0:29:45.000 --> 0:29:47.880
<v Speaker 1>was going to be a coach. It's just a great

0:29:47.920 --> 0:29:53.000
<v Speaker 1>illustration of the networking that goes into getting those breaks. Um.

0:29:53.600 --> 0:29:56.360
<v Speaker 1>And that's what his high schools coach said last night

0:29:56.640 --> 0:30:01.000
<v Speaker 1>talking about this guy was made become a probably the

0:30:01.360 --> 0:30:03.920
<v Speaker 1>coaching in high school. Well, yeah, he probably was. I mean,

0:30:04.000 --> 0:30:06.240
<v Speaker 1>as big as he was, he probably knew that he

0:30:06.280 --> 0:30:09.120
<v Speaker 1>could set a good example, right, I know, teammate and

0:30:08.800 --> 0:30:12.360
<v Speaker 1>now they didn't. He whipped their ass right. Well, yeah,

0:30:12.400 --> 0:30:16.120
<v Speaker 1>that's how you bring about the witness. I know Jason

0:30:16.160 --> 0:30:17.840
<v Speaker 1>Witten has a lot of respect for him. Happen to

0:30:17.920 --> 0:30:21.600
<v Speaker 1>run into Witton a month or so ago, and it's

0:30:21.600 --> 0:30:24.040
<v Speaker 1>actually when Hard Knocks was going on, and so I

0:30:24.080 --> 0:30:26.720
<v Speaker 1>asked him, so you're watching Dan on Hard Knox. He said, oh, yeah,

0:30:26.720 --> 0:30:28.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm watching it. And in fact Witten said that he

0:30:29.120 --> 0:30:31.640
<v Speaker 1>that Dan invited him up during training camp to come

0:30:31.680 --> 0:30:33.680
<v Speaker 1>speak to the team, but he wasn't able to make

0:30:33.720 --> 0:30:36.520
<v Speaker 1>it because he's coaching his high school team Liberty Christian

0:30:36.560 --> 0:30:40.680
<v Speaker 1>and Argyle near here. And but what what Witton was

0:30:40.680 --> 0:30:44.200
<v Speaker 1>saying about Campbell is what he was just hoping that

0:30:44.960 --> 0:30:47.800
<v Speaker 1>they understand that their talent is not where it needs

0:30:47.800 --> 0:30:50.120
<v Speaker 1>to be right now. But what he is doing is

0:30:50.160 --> 0:30:52.680
<v Speaker 1>what was evident on Hard Knocks is the culture that

0:30:52.720 --> 0:30:56.080
<v Speaker 1>he's establishing there in Detroit. And so the key on

0:30:56.160 --> 0:30:58.920
<v Speaker 1>him is don't get off to a one in four start,

0:31:00.240 --> 0:31:04.320
<v Speaker 1>which is what's happened. Uh. And and for them to

0:31:04.400 --> 0:31:08.120
<v Speaker 1>understand that it takes some time to build that roster up. Yeah,

0:31:08.240 --> 0:31:11.520
<v Speaker 1>and it will take some time. But I just think

0:31:11.760 --> 0:31:14.600
<v Speaker 1>between him and Aaron Glenn, you know, and Aaron Glenn

0:31:14.720 --> 0:31:18.600
<v Speaker 1>had a couple interviews for head coaching. Yeah too. Uh.

0:31:19.000 --> 0:31:22.000
<v Speaker 1>Glenn was great when he was here in the locker room,

0:31:22.040 --> 0:31:25.160
<v Speaker 1>he was and of course he came in also when parcels.

0:31:25.480 --> 0:31:27.760
<v Speaker 1>He was one of those guys you can go and ask,

0:31:28.120 --> 0:31:30.600
<v Speaker 1>you know, stuff about the game. And he didn't b

0:31:30.840 --> 0:31:34.840
<v Speaker 1>s yet he told you basically he used to. He

0:31:34.920 --> 0:31:37.520
<v Speaker 1>used to get on me. We'd be in the circle

0:31:37.600 --> 0:31:40.480
<v Speaker 1>around his locker room, and everybody would leave and I'm

0:31:40.520 --> 0:31:42.479
<v Speaker 1>still there, and he'd look at me and goes, okay,

0:31:42.520 --> 0:31:50.600
<v Speaker 1>what do you want? Were he knew? Now here? It

0:31:50.640 --> 0:31:54.040
<v Speaker 1>comes to good question, that's what That's what it was,

0:31:55.160 --> 0:31:57.080
<v Speaker 1>all right. I'm looking at their coaching steff, see if

0:31:57.080 --> 0:31:59.640
<v Speaker 1>I recognize any other names. He's got a bunch of

0:31:59.680 --> 0:32:06.640
<v Speaker 1>players former players. Yeah. Uh, running back coach, Yeah, the

0:32:06.800 --> 0:32:09.880
<v Speaker 1>running back coach. Well, Mark Brunel's the quarterbacks coach, right,

0:32:09.920 --> 0:32:15.000
<v Speaker 1>oh nice. Deuce Staley is then styl They have a

0:32:15.120 --> 0:32:19.640
<v Speaker 1>very spirited relationship. Yes, yes, on hard knocks, you go

0:32:19.800 --> 0:32:23.720
<v Speaker 1>pretty competitive. What you're trying to say? An Joan Randall

0:32:23.920 --> 0:32:27.160
<v Speaker 1>l is their wide receivers coach. Kelvin Shephard is the

0:32:27.200 --> 0:32:30.960
<v Speaker 1>linebackers coach. So there you go, and we've got more

0:32:31.240 --> 0:32:33.800
<v Speaker 1>of bick shots coming your way in just a moment.

0:32:34.880 --> 0:32:38.320
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<v Speaker 1>experience experience experience sound like my nephew experience. Okay, you're

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<v Speaker 1>done with that, right? What else you got on your

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<v Speaker 1>legal pad there? Well? The other thing, one last thing

0:35:20.040 --> 0:35:23.000
<v Speaker 1>on on Campbell we were talking about him, uh playing

0:35:23.040 --> 0:35:30.000
<v Speaker 1>six on six football. It was in Morgan, Texas. No, No,

0:35:30.040 --> 0:35:33.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, I take it back. Uh he was raised

0:35:33.680 --> 0:35:36.960
<v Speaker 1>on a family ranch where he helped raise cattle. The

0:35:37.040 --> 0:35:41.560
<v Speaker 1>closest town to him was Morgan, Texas, which had one intersection,

0:35:41.760 --> 0:35:46.799
<v Speaker 1>no stoplights, six to ten students per graduating class, and

0:35:47.040 --> 0:35:51.440
<v Speaker 1>four hundred total residents. So to have the opportunity to

0:35:51.480 --> 0:35:55.880
<v Speaker 1>play six on six football at Morgan High School can't.

0:35:56.040 --> 0:35:59.839
<v Speaker 1>He'd ended up transferring to glenn Rose as a saw

0:36:00.160 --> 0:36:03.080
<v Speaker 1>or so he could play eleven on eleven and his

0:36:03.280 --> 0:36:11.319
<v Speaker 1>nickname was Boon as in doesn't say b o o

0:36:11.640 --> 0:36:17.520
<v Speaker 1>n E boon boom M. I assume Morgan is fairly

0:36:17.520 --> 0:36:21.560
<v Speaker 1>close to glenn Rose, which is southwest of Fort Worth. Yes, okay,

0:36:22.160 --> 0:36:27.680
<v Speaker 1>Morgan Eagles. Glenn Rose is approximately, it says here, seventy

0:36:27.680 --> 0:36:32.279
<v Speaker 1>miles from AT and T Stadium. Okay, So there you go.

0:36:32.520 --> 0:36:35.440
<v Speaker 1>That's what we know about Dan Campbell. Now what else

0:36:35.480 --> 0:36:38.239
<v Speaker 1>do we know about these Detroit Lions. No, well, I've

0:36:38.320 --> 0:36:42.920
<v Speaker 1>got a time, I've got notes here talking about how

0:36:43.000 --> 0:36:49.200
<v Speaker 1>well they have run the football, got the second ranked offense,

0:36:49.400 --> 0:36:53.880
<v Speaker 1>third ranked in defense. And here are the totals. Against

0:36:53.960 --> 0:36:57.520
<v Speaker 1>Philadelphia they ran for one hundred and eighty one yards.

0:36:57.719 --> 0:37:01.960
<v Speaker 1>Against Washington, they ran for one hundred ninety one yards

0:37:02.000 --> 0:37:06.520
<v Speaker 1>against Minnesota one thirty four, Seattle one forty five, and

0:37:06.680 --> 0:37:10.200
<v Speaker 1>even though they got shut out by New England, they

0:37:10.400 --> 0:37:14.279
<v Speaker 1>ran for one hundred and one yards. So if you

0:37:14.400 --> 0:37:17.200
<v Speaker 1>put all that together with the exception you know of

0:37:17.280 --> 0:37:20.600
<v Speaker 1>the New England game, well, with the New England game,

0:37:20.640 --> 0:37:23.359
<v Speaker 1>they're averaging one hundred and fifty one yards a game.

0:37:23.960 --> 0:37:29.360
<v Speaker 1>You said they were number three in defense, no rushing offense, Okay, defense,

0:37:29.400 --> 0:37:33.160
<v Speaker 1>they're dead last. Yeah, yeah, that's been their problems. Those

0:37:33.200 --> 0:37:37.919
<v Speaker 1>analytics didn't yet if I misspoke, I appreciate a Yeah

0:37:37.920 --> 0:37:43.520
<v Speaker 1>you still apologized. Yeah, I'm still missing around right. So anyway, Uh,

0:37:43.520 --> 0:37:46.640
<v Speaker 1>that's one thing the Cowboys obviously have to be aware

0:37:46.640 --> 0:37:50.719
<v Speaker 1>of because it sounds like their other running back, DeAndre

0:37:50.920 --> 0:37:55.040
<v Speaker 1>Swift is he had missed the previous two games. Uh,

0:37:55.440 --> 0:37:58.960
<v Speaker 1>and Jamal is it Jamal Williams do. Yes, he was

0:37:59.040 --> 0:38:02.960
<v Speaker 1>their lead guy after that, but it looked like he

0:38:03.160 --> 0:38:07.560
<v Speaker 1>practiced on a limited basis yesterday, so we'll see if

0:38:07.600 --> 0:38:11.279
<v Speaker 1>he's ready to get back. So you mentioned that they

0:38:11.760 --> 0:38:17.520
<v Speaker 1>have the number three scoring offense in the league, number two. Okay,

0:38:17.840 --> 0:38:20.799
<v Speaker 1>number was number eight rushing. I think as far as

0:38:20.960 --> 0:38:25.200
<v Speaker 1>scoring offense or number three total offense, number two, they

0:38:25.360 --> 0:38:28.560
<v Speaker 1>lost to Philadelphia thirty eight thirty five. They lost to

0:38:28.600 --> 0:38:33.480
<v Speaker 1>Seattle forty eight to forty five, and so Dan Campbell

0:38:33.560 --> 0:38:36.320
<v Speaker 1>has one of the highest scoring offenses in the league,

0:38:36.960 --> 0:38:41.040
<v Speaker 1>but it doesn't compare to his old six man footballs.

0:38:41.239 --> 0:38:44.880
<v Speaker 1>In Morgan, Texas As, the producer Supreme just sent me

0:38:45.000 --> 0:38:48.040
<v Speaker 1>an update on their season, how it's going, and in

0:38:48.080 --> 0:38:51.360
<v Speaker 1>their last game they beat Iridell one oh seven to

0:38:51.440 --> 0:38:59.719
<v Speaker 1>eighty two. Games in six man football Texas is insane.

0:39:00.160 --> 0:39:02.320
<v Speaker 1>Be in shape and you have to be able to

0:39:02.360 --> 0:39:05.000
<v Speaker 1>do more than one thing, and usually they don't. They

0:39:05.080 --> 0:39:07.920
<v Speaker 1>don't become one oh seven to eighty two scores because

0:39:07.960 --> 0:39:10.319
<v Speaker 1>you I think there's a forty five point rule. If

0:39:10.360 --> 0:39:12.279
<v Speaker 1>you get up by forty five, they call a game,

0:39:12.800 --> 0:39:15.800
<v Speaker 1>and no, there's something like that. Usually the good teams

0:39:15.840 --> 0:39:21.080
<v Speaker 1>win like seventy to twenty whatever. Do they wear equipment, Yeah,

0:39:21.120 --> 0:39:26.239
<v Speaker 1>it's not like flag football or seven on seven. Yeah,

0:39:26.400 --> 0:39:32.680
<v Speaker 1>it's full fullball watch six players. They are very multi talented.

0:39:33.160 --> 0:39:35.840
<v Speaker 1>They can throw, run, kid, do all that kind of stuff.

0:39:35.880 --> 0:39:39.480
<v Speaker 1>It's usually the Tuesday of the state championship week a smaller,

0:39:39.600 --> 0:39:43.480
<v Speaker 1>smaller field. They condense the field at and T Stadium,

0:39:43.560 --> 0:39:45.560
<v Speaker 1>so it's at the numbers. But what you need to do,

0:39:45.640 --> 0:39:48.520
<v Speaker 1>you need to make a trip out to on a

0:39:48.640 --> 0:39:53.000
<v Speaker 1>Friday night watch six man where you've got the you know,

0:39:53.120 --> 0:39:55.640
<v Speaker 1>under the dim lights of a Friday night. You know

0:39:55.640 --> 0:39:57.719
<v Speaker 1>where you get the full taste. They don't even give

0:39:57.719 --> 0:40:00.680
<v Speaker 1>them bright lights. That dim lights. I actually have a

0:40:00.840 --> 0:40:03.200
<v Speaker 1>I have actually have a friend who he and his

0:40:03.239 --> 0:40:06.480
<v Speaker 1>son used to make trips to watch six man football.

0:40:06.480 --> 0:40:09.439
<v Speaker 1>It was like a father's son deal. Yeah, when when

0:40:09.440 --> 0:40:11.960
<v Speaker 1>his kid was probably you know, seventh or eighth grade,

0:40:12.000 --> 0:40:14.040
<v Speaker 1>and he loved watch going to watch him play that

0:40:14.960 --> 0:40:17.719
<v Speaker 1>he was he was a player himself, and he just

0:40:18.440 --> 0:40:20.920
<v Speaker 1>it was a father's son outing on a Friday night.

0:40:20.960 --> 0:40:23.640
<v Speaker 1>They'd pick a six man game each season to go to.

0:40:24.160 --> 0:40:29.200
<v Speaker 1>So all right, that's an idea. So it's not like, yeah,

0:40:29.239 --> 0:40:31.480
<v Speaker 1>it's not like women's basketball in the day when you

0:40:31.480 --> 0:40:34.120
<v Speaker 1>played half everybody was on their half of the core,

0:40:34.800 --> 0:40:37.680
<v Speaker 1>on each end of the court. Yeah, you can't cross

0:40:37.719 --> 0:40:42.160
<v Speaker 1>half way back. They were wearing the old view. They

0:40:42.160 --> 0:40:45.040
<v Speaker 1>were wearing skirts. That's what they think. They were wearing

0:40:45.200 --> 0:40:47.960
<v Speaker 1>skirts too, by the way, that's why it used to

0:40:47.960 --> 0:40:51.319
<v Speaker 1>be Texas High school girls basketball, and well it was

0:40:51.360 --> 0:40:55.080
<v Speaker 1>that all over. If they actually had it because growing

0:40:55.160 --> 0:40:57.880
<v Speaker 1>up they didn't even have women's basketball in high school

0:40:58.080 --> 0:41:00.400
<v Speaker 1>and I was so so tell me, the cow Boys

0:41:00.400 --> 0:41:03.160
<v Speaker 1>are probably going to see certain things in regards to

0:41:03.160 --> 0:41:08.640
<v Speaker 1>the money game. Yes, uh, inside handoff jet sweet probably

0:41:08.680 --> 0:41:11.799
<v Speaker 1>be one of them. Absolutely, And we saw that, and

0:41:11.880 --> 0:41:15.960
<v Speaker 1>they're gonna make Michael Parsons make a decision. You can't

0:41:16.000 --> 0:41:19.080
<v Speaker 1>do it rolling out with the quarterback that's not that mobile.

0:41:19.480 --> 0:41:21.759
<v Speaker 1>So there's some kind of way they're gonna still put

0:41:21.880 --> 0:41:24.239
<v Speaker 1>him in a bind to where he's gonna have to

0:41:24.280 --> 0:41:27.760
<v Speaker 1>make a decision. And I think that inside handoff move

0:41:28.400 --> 0:41:30.759
<v Speaker 1>is going to be something that the lines are going

0:41:30.840 --> 0:41:34.640
<v Speaker 1>to count on. That is why he needs to play linebacker.

0:41:35.280 --> 0:41:38.279
<v Speaker 1>And if you want him rushing the quarterback as a

0:41:38.360 --> 0:41:41.960
<v Speaker 1>defensive end and do it and it's third down and passing,

0:41:44.000 --> 0:41:47.560
<v Speaker 1>he doesn't have them make those And Jared Goff won't

0:41:47.760 --> 0:41:52.480
<v Speaker 1>create the problem that Jalen Hurts did with the RPOs. Like, Okay,

0:41:52.600 --> 0:41:55.400
<v Speaker 1>Jared Goff's not gonna roll out. We did put him

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<v Speaker 1>at middle linebacker a lot in the game, yes they did,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's not where he had problems. So he had

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<v Speaker 1>problems when they lined him up as the fifth guy

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<v Speaker 1>on the defensive line. I think that when we settled down,

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<v Speaker 1>actually when we put him at middle linebackers putting me

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<v Speaker 1>on the line. Do you see how many times Golf

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<v Speaker 1>has been sacked? I was just looking up seven. That's it.

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<v Speaker 1>That's it, and the Cowboys lead the league with twenty four. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what he's gonna do. He's gonna get rid

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<v Speaker 1>of the ball real fast. I mean, if he's smart,

0:42:23.760 --> 0:42:26.520
<v Speaker 1>he's gonna have all quick throws and that's gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>the m against the Cowboys defense in the future. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I want you to explain this to me though. So

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<v Speaker 1>they're on pace for sixty eight sacks over seventeen games

0:42:36.400 --> 0:42:40.360
<v Speaker 1>in a sixteen game season. The franchise single season record

0:42:40.719 --> 0:42:46.520
<v Speaker 1>is sixty two. Said in nineteen eighty five, But that

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<v Speaker 1>was the year you guys had a bunch of interceptions,

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't it. Yeah. Yeah, So the sacks the interceptions, they go,

0:42:52.480 --> 0:42:55.200
<v Speaker 1>they go hand in hand in hand. Yes, they did well.

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<v Speaker 1>When you look at that, when you look at that season,

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<v Speaker 1>we weren't the pourful, you know Cowboys that we were

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<v Speaker 1>in the early eighties seventies. You could just kind of

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<v Speaker 1>see things start to fall off a little bit and

0:43:08.800 --> 0:43:12.400
<v Speaker 1>you know, our defensive line, they were really the strongest

0:43:12.440 --> 0:43:15.759
<v Speaker 1>part of our team at that time. So Tom was

0:43:15.800 --> 0:43:18.120
<v Speaker 1>just letting them loose. He let them loose, and I

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<v Speaker 1>think at that time, by nineteen eighty five, he realized

0:43:20.880 --> 0:43:22.799
<v Speaker 1>that we weren't just a bunch of knuckleheads back there,

0:43:23.239 --> 0:43:26.600
<v Speaker 1>you know, just stumbling into interceptions. I think he realized

0:43:26.600 --> 0:43:28.719
<v Speaker 1>that there was a method to the madness, and that

0:43:28.880 --> 0:43:33.160
<v Speaker 1>finally became part of our m part of our culture

0:43:33.719 --> 0:43:36.640
<v Speaker 1>was sacks and picks. It just took him a while

0:43:36.680 --> 0:43:39.680
<v Speaker 1>to get there. I'm wondering, and I didn't I don't

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<v Speaker 1>have my media guide. Probably shouldn't even say this, but

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<v Speaker 1>sacks didn't become an official stat till eighty two, right

0:43:47.040 --> 0:43:51.960
<v Speaker 1>nineteen eighty two. So I'm thinking even before that, in

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<v Speaker 1>the heyday of two Tall Jones, Harvey Martin, Randy White,

0:43:58.239 --> 0:44:00.200
<v Speaker 1>they might have had more than eighty one and the

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<v Speaker 1>eighty one they probably did in eighty one, you think, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean we were it was crazy, you know, if

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<v Speaker 1>we want, Like I said, we went back there getting toasted.

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<v Speaker 1>We were picking it off. Yeah, and these guys were

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<v Speaker 1>what they were, our our lifeline, that that front front

0:44:14.440 --> 0:44:17.200
<v Speaker 1>for was our lifeline we had. We had we had

0:44:17.200 --> 0:44:21.360
<v Speaker 1>Thornton also, Bruce Thornton and lar Bethea as our backups

0:44:21.400 --> 0:44:25.720
<v Speaker 1>as well. So it wasn't just those four guys Dutton, White,

0:44:26.239 --> 0:44:29.120
<v Speaker 1>Martin and Jones. You know, we had two backups that

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<v Speaker 1>came in with a lot of energy. And you think

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<v Speaker 1>back to Doomsday two, like seventy seven, they were awfully

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<v Speaker 1>good defensively. No telling how many sacks they would have

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<v Speaker 1>had that year that was a Super Bowl, Yeah, yeah, yeah,

0:44:41.640 --> 0:44:47.160
<v Speaker 1>absolutely when they devastated Denver. So those video those games

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<v Speaker 1>not available anywhere. Can we not go find them and

0:44:50.880 --> 0:44:54.319
<v Speaker 1>track how many sacks they had? No, those guys that

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<v Speaker 1>did the research, those two guys from somewhere in Kansas

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<v Speaker 1>Man in Kansas City, Kansas. They went back and looked

0:45:00.760 --> 0:45:06.080
<v Speaker 1>at all those games and they re uh number calibrated

0:45:06.200 --> 0:45:08.960
<v Speaker 1>the number of sacks guys had, and in most cases

0:45:09.000 --> 0:45:11.719
<v Speaker 1>they added them on. And it ended up being where

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<v Speaker 1>the game? Where? Where is it? Where is it? Where

0:45:15.880 --> 0:45:20.520
<v Speaker 1>they find it? No? Where, where's their work? Oh? Because

0:45:20.560 --> 0:45:23.000
<v Speaker 1>if they if they've charted every game, we can, we can,

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<v Speaker 1>we could have, we have, you can find it. They

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<v Speaker 1>listed and they they adjusted Randy White's numbers they adjusted. Yeah,

0:45:31.320 --> 0:45:34.279
<v Speaker 1>they adjusted Hobby's number, Harbies. They took twa two of

0:45:34.320 --> 0:45:37.399
<v Speaker 1>his sex, they did. They took away two of Harby

0:45:37.480 --> 0:45:40.239
<v Speaker 1>Morton sex. That's the that's a fact. I need to

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<v Speaker 1>know where to find it. And the NFL wouldn't recognize it.

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<v Speaker 1>Just you wouldn't recognize. They wouldn't recognize the numbers to

0:45:47.560 --> 0:45:51.399
<v Speaker 1>change their numbers to make the sacks official. Yeah, but

0:45:51.440 --> 0:45:54.040
<v Speaker 1>they went. They didn't. They didn't trust that they did them.

0:45:54.239 --> 0:45:56.080
<v Speaker 1>I want to say they went all the way. They

0:45:56.120 --> 0:45:57.960
<v Speaker 1>didn't pay them. Yeah, they did it on their own

0:45:58.000 --> 0:45:59.520
<v Speaker 1>and wrote I don't know if they wrote a book,

0:45:59.560 --> 0:46:01.799
<v Speaker 1>but they did to study and I think they might

0:46:01.840 --> 0:46:03.560
<v Speaker 1>have gone back to all the way to nineteen. It

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<v Speaker 1>seems like the NFL would want to collaborate with him.

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<v Speaker 1>And yeah, no, that was part of the story. You

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<v Speaker 1>can look it up, not now, but you can see

0:46:14.800 --> 0:46:18.319
<v Speaker 1>you can search for it. Well, no, producer, Chris will

0:46:18.360 --> 0:46:20.920
<v Speaker 1>tell you, we're out of time already. I want to

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<v Speaker 1>know past breakups too, and they had it listed because

0:46:23.680 --> 0:46:26.600
<v Speaker 1>I want past and they changed did they only do sacks?

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<v Speaker 1>They did sacks, and they changed the list of all

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<v Speaker 1>time leaders in sacks without the NFL, and they compared

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<v Speaker 1>it to what eighty two was, and a lot of

0:46:37.880 --> 0:46:42.040
<v Speaker 1>guys moved way up, but once again not approved, like

0:46:42.120 --> 0:46:44.960
<v Speaker 1>Jeff Coates moved up because he lost. Well, we can

0:46:45.000 --> 0:46:50.759
<v Speaker 1>approve it a year. NFL ain't trying to hear it. Yeah, obviously, yeah, obviously.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, I'm gonna go out a mission. You go

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<v Speaker 1>find find it, Okay, all right, and we'll be back

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<v Speaker 1>for another edition of mix Shots at noon on Friday.

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