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Speaker 1: Welcome to Jaguars Thursday. Former Jaguars Jeff Langerman and Tony

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Speaker 1: Vasselli bring you expert insight and analysis of your Jacksonville Jaguars.

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Speaker 1: Now to get things started, here's the host of Jaguars Thursday,

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Speaker 1: j P. Shadrick. Welcome to Jaguars Thursday. J P. Shadrick,

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Speaker 1: Jeff Lagoman, and Tony Vasselli. Is in the building today.

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Speaker 1: It's unbelievable in the building. I think I forgot what

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Speaker 1: you looked like. I think I'm in the building like

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Speaker 1: the next two months on Thursdays, I believe that I

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Speaker 1: see I landed at four thirty day back in town.

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Speaker 1: Just to get back. You're you're you're a jet center. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we got this week. Next week we have the mock draft.

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Speaker 1: Last week after that we have the We're gonna recap

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Speaker 1: the state of the franchise a week after that. Nineteen

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Speaker 1: When is the draft? The weekend of the weekend. What's

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Speaker 1: the date? Six is round one, that's correct, that's the

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Speaker 1: nineteenth is the That's the Thursday of the franchise and

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Speaker 1: we're doing that night talking about that. That's because I'm

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Speaker 1: in Colorado. My my high school coach is getting inducted

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Speaker 1: into the Colorado Sports Hall of Fame Sam Poiano, who

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Speaker 1: was Chuck Bogano's dad, And uh if I'm flying out,

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Speaker 1: uh flying out for that closer to your mouth so

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Speaker 1: we can hear you enough. Sorry, this is my first

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Speaker 1: out there and get in the Hall of Fame. How

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Speaker 1: do you get He was one of the best high

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Speaker 1: school coaches ever. Okayeh, multiple state championships. I figured if

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Speaker 1: and I'm actually gonna take the Red Eye back because

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Speaker 1: I want to get back here for the state of

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Speaker 1: the franchise. It's a big day and obviously it's a

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Speaker 1: I love that. It's a great deal. So I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: fly back. That's dedication to the Red Eye back. Well,

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Speaker 1: there's no way to be in two places that once

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Speaker 1: out without doing that, because otherwise you catch the six

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Speaker 1: am flight Thursday morning, I get back here like at four,

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Speaker 1: I'll be here for the show. But I missed the

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Speaker 1: name who else was going into the I got called,

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Speaker 1: I got uh asked to come uh from him? That's

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Speaker 1: pretty cool. Yeah, I'm excited. He was dinner and everything.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he was literally one of the most influential

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Speaker 1: I actually was a water boy for him. I mean,

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Speaker 1: my dream as a little kid was not I mean,

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Speaker 1: my dream as a little kid was to play high

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Speaker 1: school football for Sam Pagano because family and everyone who

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Speaker 1: when the high school came to play, so I had

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Speaker 1: so probably fourth grade, I started being a waterboy for

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Speaker 1: the high school on Friday nights. Now and then my

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Speaker 1: first is that legal? Because you were like this just

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Speaker 1: By the way, all my cousins at the time that

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Speaker 1: enough all of a sudden, every all of a sudden,

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Speaker 1: I'm a firm believer in this. Tony was kind of

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Speaker 1: And my experiences, you haven't bloomed yet, But I mean

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Speaker 1: They just were naturally better than everybody else. Now there's

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Speaker 1: and and it's amazing how much the percentages dropped as

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Speaker 1: two thousand and thirteen Dave's first draft, where every great

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Speaker 1: Jack Hanney, is Audie Jacksonville and Blanding. You can at

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Speaker 1: This is the Guess the Schedule Show. We got the

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Speaker 1: said I had a week two at the Cowboys? I

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Speaker 1: got twelve, i got nine right after the bye first

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Speaker 1: divisional game. I've got week three at the Colts. That's

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Speaker 1: my guests, obviously, Thanks JP for all right, I'm done

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Speaker 1: with this, all right? Yeah, so well postings on social

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Speaker 1: media once again, the next worst radio next week week

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Speaker 1: we could. We have to save these just so that

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Speaker 1: when after the schedule does come out, we can see,

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Speaker 1: we can see who won, because it is a competition. Okay,

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Speaker 1: usually win these, Like I'm saying, I won the mock

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Speaker 1: draft last year. I did. I got two and you

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Speaker 1: guys got one each. I got t J. Watt going

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Speaker 1: to the Steelers, like, and I got the top five

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Speaker 1: whatever the one that I had the top for you? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I had that one too, Yeah, totally, totally. I got

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Speaker 1: the top guy. And I don't remember what his name is. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: what's that? Yeah? Yeah, I got the tough guy. We'll

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Speaker 1: put all three of our choices for the schedule, and

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Speaker 1: Joe Fortunatos on social media and you can compare. He

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Speaker 1: did all four have opening weekend home against Indie. It's

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Speaker 1: not gonna happen. Got the London game week eight, then

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Speaker 1: to buye. I too have three road games. But it's

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Speaker 1: week ten, eleven, and twelve, and we're finishing up where

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Speaker 1: you I think, were you guys away at Houston? You

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Speaker 1: have it? Well, uh, put those on there, we'll come

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Speaker 1: back in a moment. And talking uniforms, the Tennessee Titans

451
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Speaker 1: have a new look. They show those off this week.

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Speaker 1: The Jaguars one veil. There's coming up very soon. P

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Speaker 1: r I Productions the official event production company that Jack

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Speaker 1: Thursday on Jaguars Radio. Welcome back to the hand of

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Speaker 1: Me Autos top Com Studio. Jaguars Thursday continues. Right now

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Speaker 1: we're back Jaguars Thursday. I'm surprised we made it back.

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Speaker 1: I mean that was such rivetings, compelling, high energy radio

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Speaker 1: that I mean, I am are you? Are you from

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Speaker 1: scribble it all your lots there at I was having

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Speaker 1: a lot of anxiety this week about what are you

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Speaker 1: thinking about it? A lot of homework, Yeah, how putting

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Speaker 1: the algorithms in? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I broke out all

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Speaker 1: the tools, yeah, everything. Jeff Lagman, Tony was sli JP

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Speaker 1: shatterck with the Jaguars Thursday continues. Coming up in a

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Speaker 1: couple of weeks. State of the franchise here at ever

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Speaker 1: bank Field, And part of that is the uniform unveiling

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Speaker 1: for the Jackson. You've seen maybe maybe, and some of

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Speaker 1: the players have seen them. They've been able to do

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Speaker 1: preview videos and such and do the video board things

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Speaker 1: and all that with them. And you've seen on social

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Speaker 1: media the reaction video of seeing them for the first time,

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Speaker 1: But you haven't seen the uniforms yet, so that's gonna

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Speaker 1: come out in a couple of weeks. The Tennessee Titans

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Speaker 1: had their unveiling earlier this week and a huge production

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Speaker 1: on Broadway in downtown Nashville. Thousands of people showed up

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Speaker 1: for this and a but those got leaked, right, yes,

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Speaker 1: And apparently there's an NFL investigation to try to find

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Speaker 1: the leak where it came from. The Tennessee Titans uniform leak.

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Speaker 1: But they are officially out now. It's a little darker blue,

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Speaker 1: I guess. And they had helmet. The biggest changes the

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Speaker 1: helmet and the numbers are weird, you know. The biggest

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Speaker 1: changes is the helmet because the helmet used to be

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Speaker 1: white and then everything was applied on the white. Now

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Speaker 1: the helmet has become more dark blue. Uh. And Tony's right,

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Speaker 1: the numbers are very very different. What I say, you

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Speaker 1: two guy, how hard is that going to be to

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Speaker 1: see from the booth? I don't know. I mean i'd

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Speaker 1: have to see that. I mean the numbers. Yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 1: if it's white on dark, it shouldn't be hard. It's

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Speaker 1: when you get the dark. If you get something other

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Speaker 1: than white on dark, which I don't think they're gonna have.

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Speaker 1: I don't think they'll be bad, like I just like

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Speaker 1: I mean, you got to see him first, you know,

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Speaker 1: it's hard like the color like the Color Rush like

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Speaker 1: Tampa does the all pewter that whatever red orange color

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Speaker 1: and then silver numbers. You have no idea what the

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Speaker 1: numbers are. You can't see the numbers. Dark is silver? Okay,

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Speaker 1: what's the other? What's probably I don't know what is

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Speaker 1: their colors whatever, their colors are the darker in color um.

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Speaker 1: But it's when you get these color Rush uniforms where

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Speaker 1: these uniforms that have a color in a non wider

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Speaker 1: black number, it's very difficult to see. Pull up a

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Speaker 1: Titan's helmet it's a white if it's a white number, Joe,

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Speaker 1: I don't think it'll be hard because that's one thing

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Speaker 1: I haven't really seen yet as Tennessee's that they didn't

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Speaker 1: I wanted to see the updated look of the helmet.

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Speaker 1: And they also said something about the numbers show did

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Speaker 1: you read that there skinny the shape of there's parts

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Speaker 1: of them or every number has in it the shape

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Speaker 1: of the state of Tennessee in it. I read that, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's that's kind of cool. I guess we can look

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Speaker 1: at the numb show the numbers again. I don't see

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Speaker 1: the state. I guess it is at the state of

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Speaker 1: the Tennessee down by the nine. What do you mean

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Speaker 1: the shape of the state and the numbers. That's what

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Speaker 1: they said that they're full of it. I'm just telling

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Speaker 1: you what they said. The numbers are numbers. There's the helmet. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's just the background color used to be white. Now

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Speaker 1: it's it's maybe not the dark dark navy blue like

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Speaker 1: the Chicago Bears. But they used to be black and

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Speaker 1: like the sixties. But they're not the navy blue. Now

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Speaker 1: they look good. I mean there's no dramatic changes, I

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Speaker 1: mean the big change. There's just a helmet and some

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Speaker 1: of the number designed. I guess the number design right here,

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Speaker 1: I'm reading it. Um, are you trying to tell me?

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Speaker 1: And you're you're gonna tell me more about how the

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Speaker 1: state is involved? The state is involved with the numbers?

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Speaker 1: What they said right here, Tony, you're buying into that? Okay,

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Speaker 1: here are you buying into that? Every number in East

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Speaker 1: Jersey is shaped in a way that exemplifies the northeast

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Speaker 1: corner of Tennessee as the state appears on a map,

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Speaker 1: subtle ode to the fans in the state northeast corn

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Speaker 1: that sticks out above the mountains state. So you're saying,

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Speaker 1: all the numbers are pointing towards the northeast corner of

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Speaker 1: the state. No, they have the shape of the northeast,

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Speaker 1: so right the northeast, that shape right here, Jeff, they're

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Speaker 1: saying that edge right there. Can we get a number

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Speaker 1: like where Bristol is and all that Johnson City is

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Speaker 1: all that's up there? I got it right here. This

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Speaker 1: is ridiculous. I can see that. I mean to Tony's

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Speaker 1: got that up on his phone. Can the state as

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Speaker 1: it looks on a map? Now, somebody tell me, Okay,

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Speaker 1: what I'm missing from seeing how I'm supposed to see

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Speaker 1: that in the numbers? All right, So you tell me

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Speaker 1: where that works. At the top right of the eight

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Speaker 1: if we're watching on Jaguars dot com, is kind of

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Speaker 1: pointed like the top right corner and the eight right

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Speaker 1: and the two maybe and the two as well. It

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Speaker 1: is the top right corners are going up there, like

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Speaker 1: I said, And tell me what that has to do

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Speaker 1: with anything. I take that when I said it's cool

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Speaker 1: at all. Thank you to their fans. Maybe we're gonna

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Speaker 1: put a panhandle at ours. No please, no, maybe not

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Speaker 1: maybe not so like swords like on the helmet to

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Speaker 1: the we're supposed to be swords going down the back

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Speaker 1: of their helmets. The one thing that they did as

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Speaker 1: they add a computer color to the uniform a little bit, right,

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Speaker 1: a little bit of it, like a two tone kind

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Speaker 1: of shoulder pad thing. It's silver basically, right, yeah, yeah, cool, yeah,

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Speaker 1: But I mean the whole numbers having just a little

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Speaker 1: the little it's like taping on another piece of fabric

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Speaker 1: that's a little triangle piece, you know, and it's maybe

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Speaker 1: a one inch one, it's one inch triangle. And you

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Speaker 1: take that little piece of fabric at every northeast corner

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Speaker 1: of the number, and it looks stupid. So here's another.

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Speaker 1: The color red accents the uniform, including the red stars

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Speaker 1: on the inside back of the neckline, inspired by the

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Speaker 1: three stars of the Tennessee state flag. A right, there

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Speaker 1: you have it. I'm just trying to I'm trying to

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Speaker 1: give you it is what it is. Those are the facts.

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Speaker 1: Man Angler number fonts were designed with Greek or Roman

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Speaker 1: lettering in mind. Okay, yeah, all right, Well that's enough.

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Speaker 1: Of the jerseys, the Jaguars jersey. You are you gonna

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Speaker 1: miss the two tone helmets, Tony who said they're going

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Speaker 1: away lugs? Um Am I gonna miss them? No? But

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Speaker 1: I was okay with them. I wasn't. I was never

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Speaker 1: They looked a lot better when they won. It never

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Speaker 1: bothered me. Um, I would have. I probably would have

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Speaker 1: preferred one colored helmet, but it wasn't like you know,

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Speaker 1: some people were like just utterly against it, like this

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Speaker 1: is ridiculous. It never bothered me to that extent um.

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Speaker 1: But if I was choosing helmets, I don't think that

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Speaker 1: would have been my choice. But it didn't bother me.

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Speaker 1: Did bother you? I mean, I thought you're pretty ugly.

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Speaker 1: Now I've been won ten games a year. When they

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Speaker 1: were wearing them, they still look I just you know,

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Speaker 1: it was flat because you had the flat black and

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Speaker 1: then it went to a glossy and we've we've got

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Speaker 1: a helmet on the golost right on the back, and

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Speaker 1: you know, and I would have I would have liked

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Speaker 1: it if you know, if it was like all gold

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Speaker 1: or all flat black, and say, I love the flat black.

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Speaker 1: I think flat black is pretty hip. Yeah, yeah, but

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Speaker 1: for how long you know, for how long? This has

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Speaker 1: only been around for four or five? The flat black

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Speaker 1: five years and five years again every five. You're saying

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Speaker 1: that flat black is something that would go out. It's

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Speaker 1: a fat You think the color black is a fat

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Speaker 1: flat black? He likes the glossy black flat black helmets

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Speaker 1: at least. So you're saying that two tone fat went

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Speaker 1: out too already? Maybe so maybe so was it ever

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Speaker 1: a fat? Though I don't. I wouldn't have minded all gold.

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Speaker 1: It would have been okay with with their way. But

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Speaker 1: I mean, for JP to say that a flat color

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Speaker 1: would go out, I think it's ridiculous. When did it

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Speaker 1: come in? I didn't. I didn't know, like one was

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Speaker 1: in one of that color. Have you ever been to

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Speaker 1: a paint store to buy paint? Yeah, okay, it's another

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Speaker 1: way to call it is Matt. I'll say that Matt

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Speaker 1: has been around forever. I've seen Matt black cars recently

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Speaker 1: though not now. When I was like in the nineties,

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Speaker 1: would you spray paint your own car? Jeff? I mean,

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Speaker 1: am I wrong? No? He's not wrong. JPS just living

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Speaker 1: in Alabama where I guess in Alabama can't paint a horse?

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Speaker 1: You know we'll come back. They paint cars in Alabama

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Speaker 1: by hand alot running water and everything. We'll go around

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Speaker 1: the National Football I'm just kidding all you folks from

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Speaker 1: out at Lugs five six on Twitter to uh get

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Speaker 1: with him? Check out Jack Hanning is Audie Jacksonville on Blanding.

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Speaker 1: You can leave some beautiful A three from just to

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Speaker 1: twenty nine a month. Head over today for the tales.

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Speaker 1: I might have a Matt Blackwood for your logs. I

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Speaker 1: like Matt Flat. It's Jaguars Thurs to say that it

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Speaker 1: would it would go out of fashion and ridiculous, by

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Speaker 1: the way, we j It's Jaguars Thursday on Jaguars Radio.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to the hand of Me Autos top Com Studio.

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Speaker 1: Jaguars Thursday to Sinues. Right now about Jaguars Thursday. The

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Speaker 1: US women's soccer team, but about ten minutes away or

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Speaker 1: so fifteen minutes away from checking off against Mexico here

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Speaker 1: at ever bank Field, we could crowd tonight. You told

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Speaker 1: me there were a lot of people outside when you

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Speaker 1: came in, right, yes, sir, yes, yeah it was. I did.

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Speaker 1: I forgot that town that that was today, so I

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Speaker 1: showed up like did I miss my here or something

637
00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:56,760
Speaker 1: like time I missed something, a little bit of traffic,

638
00:35:57,719 --> 00:35:59,560
Speaker 1: but that it's cool. It's a little time to get

639
00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:02,160
Speaker 1: down here. Seven o'clock. They'll kick off against Mexico. Are

640
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:06,120
Speaker 1: you I'm not? I'm out. Why I'm not gonna make

641
00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:09,200
Speaker 1: it's your reason? Stuff going on? Like what you're single?

642
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:13,160
Speaker 1: Girlfriend going on? Like what don't worry about Like if

643
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:15,359
Speaker 1: I didn't, if I wasn't trying, I'd love I'd love

644
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:17,520
Speaker 1: to support my country in this team. I love my

645
00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:21,680
Speaker 1: country if I didn't have I got a wife, five kids.

646
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:24,600
Speaker 1: But you with no excuses? Why don't you go on?

647
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:27,640
Speaker 1: I got other stuff going like what? Don't worry about it?

648
00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:32,000
Speaker 1: Why are you? I don't think you have anything going on.

649
00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:35,160
Speaker 1: I'd rather not blab. He's got something going on, don't

650
00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:37,399
Speaker 1: worry about it. If he's got I know you're worried

651
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:39,719
Speaker 1: about it. It It seems like JP doesn't have something going on.

652
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:47,000
Speaker 1: JP has something something going on. Let's go around the

653
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:52,120
Speaker 1: National Football League and let's start off tonight with Texans

654
00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:55,319
Speaker 1: owner Bob McNair. He told The Wall Street Journal that

655
00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:59,279
Speaker 1: he regrets apologizing for saying that they can't have the

656
00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:02,640
Speaker 1: inmates run in the prison and reference to player demonstrations.

657
00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:06,279
Speaker 1: He wasn't talking about players. Jabe read it correctly. Can

658
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:09,440
Speaker 1: I finish? Thank you? You already screwed it up, so

659
00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:12,480
Speaker 1: can I finish. We've had a history lately of screwing up.

660
00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:18,480
Speaker 1: I was not referring to the player. How was he

661
00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:22,120
Speaker 1: not referring to so last October some players left practice.

662
00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:25,160
Speaker 1: Wayne Brown spoke out harshly against the McNair. He said

663
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:27,560
Speaker 1: Thursday that he was referring to mates as the NFL

664
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:31,120
Speaker 1: executives and more controlled than the owners did. The relationship

665
00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:32,960
Speaker 1: between the owners in the league office is what his

666
00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:36,560
Speaker 1: point was. He actually said it last year after he apologized.

667
00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:38,000
Speaker 1: If he goes, that's not what I meant. I wasn't

668
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:41,719
Speaker 1: referring to players. He was. It was under the context

669
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:44,360
Speaker 1: that he was frustrated with Goodell and the NFL staff

670
00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:47,600
Speaker 1: because they he felt like they were running the show

671
00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:51,719
Speaker 1: when with the owners. That there's decisions owners should have

672
00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:55,279
Speaker 1: been making and league staff was making them without consulting

673
00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:58,319
Speaker 1: the owners. So he was calling the NFL staff and

674
00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:06,120
Speaker 1: that's rights proper anyway, Why it's term, I'm just yeah

675
00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:09,279
Speaker 1: and so, but but here's the thing, and then he

676
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:11,080
Speaker 1: took a shot. Did you see he took a shot

677
00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:15,200
Speaker 1: at Dayne Brown? To my point, but here a shot

678
00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:18,160
Speaker 1: because he said something about Dwayne Brown. Is not like

679
00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:22,400
Speaker 1: being honest, roof. But Bob McNair needs to talk less

680
00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:25,520
Speaker 1: because you're gonna get I'm sorry, Jo, I'm not gonna

681
00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:28,719
Speaker 1: I am a huge Bob McNair fan. I'm glad you are.

682
00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:32,160
Speaker 1: But he doesn't he doesn't do himself, he doesn't help

683
00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:34,480
Speaker 1: himself out. Well, I'll just I know the guy's character.

684
00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:38,319
Speaker 1: And this is all say about Bob McNair is if

685
00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:40,239
Speaker 1: I wasn't a Jaguar fan, I love the Jacks and

686
00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:43,000
Speaker 1: work for this organization. This is my team that drafted me,

687
00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:44,719
Speaker 1: I would be a Bob and their fan and for

688
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:49,719
Speaker 1: them because I'll never forget after going there and my

689
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:52,560
Speaker 1: shoulder not working in three surgeries and trying to play,

690
00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:55,400
Speaker 1: and it was five games into the first season. I

691
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:57,960
Speaker 1: was there there in all the season, and there was

692
00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:01,600
Speaker 1: a meeting with Bob McNair's Charlie Castley, the surgeon who

693
00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:04,600
Speaker 1: had done the two surgeries after the stuff didn't go

694
00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:09,680
Speaker 1: right here and uh head trainer and me. So we

695
00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:11,920
Speaker 1: all sit down, what are we gonna do. What's the plan?

696
00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:16,560
Speaker 1: Most want to know? Open first comedy made in the meeting,

697
00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:19,640
Speaker 1: he says, before we get started, all I want to

698
00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:22,440
Speaker 1: know before we talked about anything else, is I want

699
00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:24,759
Speaker 1: to know what's best for Tony Bazelli. We're gonna make

700
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:28,640
Speaker 1: a decision was best for him good? Which I was

701
00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:31,879
Speaker 1: going into that meeting going, oh great, you know here

702
00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:34,320
Speaker 1: they pick your your pain. You you know, I'm playing.

703
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:36,719
Speaker 1: And it just struck me the way he did it

704
00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:40,440
Speaker 1: and the way and consistently in the eighteen months I

705
00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:45,440
Speaker 1: was there, A honest guy with integrity paid months. I know,

706
00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:51,839
Speaker 1: I'm shocking, I know, but he was. I'm just telling you.

707
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:55,799
Speaker 1: I mean, no, I'm not saying. I'm not saying I'm

708
00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:57,520
Speaker 1: not saying you're wrong that. I think it would be

709
00:39:57,560 --> 00:40:00,719
Speaker 1: careful what you say because it can that because it

710
00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:03,960
Speaker 1: could be missing true. But as far as a person

711
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:07,560
Speaker 1: of integrity, yeah, you know, he's great. I mean, I

712
00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:12,439
Speaker 1: just I'm a big fan. He's not very smooth, Yeah,

713
00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:14,000
Speaker 1: I think, you know, there's something to be careful in

714
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:17,120
Speaker 1: today's world with social media. I mean, things you can

715
00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:23,480
Speaker 1: say things social media, I mean, but because of social media,

716
00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:26,160
Speaker 1: they take a life of their own. Catches fire fast.

717
00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:29,759
Speaker 1: That comment said when you and I played, would have

718
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:33,520
Speaker 1: been I would never even hit the radar. But in

719
00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:37,640
Speaker 1: this world we live in, it catches and it's wildfire.

720
00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:42,759
Speaker 1: It's like a brush fire with with no rain for

721
00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:46,279
Speaker 1: six months. I mean, it's no offense to fires. Now,

722
00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:49,680
Speaker 1: it's what else you got? What else you got? The

723
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:52,520
Speaker 1: trade the Patriots and the Rams. The Rams are stocking

724
00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:56,120
Speaker 1: up all of a sudden, Crandon Patriots, Brandon Cooks and

725
00:40:56,200 --> 00:40:58,880
Speaker 1: a fourth round pick to the Rams in return for

726
00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:01,440
Speaker 1: a first round pick in sixth round. To two great

727
00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:05,080
Speaker 1: stories there. One is the Rams are are absolutely going

728
00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:07,840
Speaker 1: for it, I mean and trying to get star power.

729
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:10,319
Speaker 1: And the other thing is what Tony just said, what

730
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:12,799
Speaker 1: are the Patriots doing well the world? I read about

731
00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:16,000
Speaker 1: it because they traded a first rounder last year, a

732
00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:18,799
Speaker 1: lower first round. They gotta higher, they gotta higher first round.

733
00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:21,960
Speaker 1: It's a one year rental. But what happened was is

734
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:25,319
Speaker 1: they tried to sign him. They couldn't get a deal done,

735
00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:27,400
Speaker 1: and they basically said, we're not paying you what you

736
00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:31,080
Speaker 1: want and we never are going to. We're gonna get

737
00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:32,959
Speaker 1: whatever we can for you. They get to their number

738
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:34,960
Speaker 1: and then that's it. But they lost some players. They

739
00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:38,600
Speaker 1: lost Malcolm Butler, lost the solder now that was Brandon Cooks.

740
00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:41,680
Speaker 1: They lost Danny Danny Amadola. Why can't they afford to

741
00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:43,520
Speaker 1: pay some of these guys? Who are they paying where

742
00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:47,600
Speaker 1: they can can? Jeff, it's there the philosophy. I think

743
00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:50,040
Speaker 1: he just says, we're not going to I mean, I

744
00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:53,480
Speaker 1: don't need it. Tom Brady's underpaid. I don't get it.

745
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:56,080
Speaker 1: I mean, if I'm Tom Brady, I'm like, listen, I'm

746
00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:57,960
Speaker 1: under I want more money now. If we're not gonna

747
00:41:57,960 --> 00:41:59,920
Speaker 1: have any players around me, if you're not of the

748
00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:03,160
Speaker 1: half fifty million dollars a year, if you're if you're

749
00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:05,960
Speaker 1: the Patriots, you're not spending the cap, and Tom Brady

750
00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:09,640
Speaker 1: is underpaid, shouldn't Tom Brady be going to them and say,

751
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:12,359
Speaker 1: look for the ten million you didn't spend. That needs

752
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:15,920
Speaker 1: to come to me. Because the reason that they're able

753
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:19,239
Speaker 1: to make all these mistakes everywhere, because they have made

754
00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:22,960
Speaker 1: a lot of mistakes with their draft and in free agency,

755
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:25,920
Speaker 1: is that you can make mistakes when you've got the

756
00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:30,839
Speaker 1: greatest quarterback of all time and without him, I mean,

757
00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:33,080
Speaker 1: they got to know who they're drafted in the first round,

758
00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:38,120
Speaker 1: they're picking a quarterback, first round quarterback, that would be surprised.

759
00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:41,799
Speaker 1: He's you know, and it may not happen in the

760
00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:44,480
Speaker 1: first round, but it may be a second tier quarterback

761
00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:46,400
Speaker 1: in the second ROUNDE If he's forty, you gotta get

762
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:49,880
Speaker 1: a guy he's forty. Well, they've got a Brian Hoyer.

763
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:53,879
Speaker 1: He's back. You know, he was Brian Horror, that guy

764
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:58,560
Speaker 1: that was toxic. And Johnny Manzel said, I don't know

765
00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:00,880
Speaker 1: if you guys saw that. You see that the Browns

766
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:03,560
Speaker 1: should have known that Johnny was not doing anything. Johnny

767
00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:08,239
Speaker 1: Manziel comes out and says two things. One thing, he

768
00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:10,160
Speaker 1: says that, well, they should have known that I wasn't

769
00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:12,120
Speaker 1: gonna be studying film that I kind of like to

770
00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:15,480
Speaker 1: wing it. He said, they should have known my my,

771
00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:18,480
Speaker 1: you know, my reputation if you're him. And here's the

772
00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:20,680
Speaker 1: other thing that he says, to get a job right now.

773
00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:22,879
Speaker 1: The quarterback room when he went to Cleveland his first

774
00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:27,200
Speaker 1: year was toxic. I wonder why, Well, yeah, because you

775
00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:32,040
Speaker 1: were in it, right, I mean, he's blaming everybody else

776
00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:34,040
Speaker 1: in the room but himself. But then at the very

777
00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:35,920
Speaker 1: end he says, yeah, but you know it was it

778
00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:38,239
Speaker 1: was my fault. But I don't understand why would you

779
00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:40,279
Speaker 1: say everybody's fault, but you know what, it's my fault.

780
00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:43,120
Speaker 1: What are you doing, Johnny? Just be quiet, go back

781
00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:45,920
Speaker 1: and you know, to that hole that you came out of.

782
00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:48,440
Speaker 1: And and because he's come out of his out of

783
00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:51,960
Speaker 1: this little hole and he's still living in his own reality.

784
00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:54,360
Speaker 1: He's playing spring league ball. He's gonna play in that

785
00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:59,600
Speaker 1: little thing coming up. And yeah, he's another example and

786
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:02,319
Speaker 1: here for the Patriots. He needs to just shut up.

787
00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:06,120
Speaker 1: Johnny just needs to shut up, okay, and go play

788
00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:10,799
Speaker 1: football for a while and prove that you can play

789
00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:13,719
Speaker 1: and then let your actions speak, you know, for you

790
00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:17,800
Speaker 1: instead of opening your mouth. Speaking of quarterbacks, Robert Griffin

791
00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:19,719
Speaker 1: the Third is back in the league now, one year

792
00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:22,920
Speaker 1: deal with the Ravens. I'm surprised you went in the

793
00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:27,000
Speaker 1: league last year. I was. When you're talking about a

794
00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:31,440
Speaker 1: top he's one of the top picks the league, the quarterbacks,

795
00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:33,279
Speaker 1: I'll be surprised if he's on the roster. Is he

796
00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:38,319
Speaker 1: better than Colin Kaepernick? I don't know. I mean, I mean,

797
00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:41,919
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, put it put it this way,

798
00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:45,000
Speaker 1: if if you were if you were in their heyday.

799
00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:49,960
Speaker 1: Take take both quarterbacks in their heyday, and I'm I'm

800
00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:53,000
Speaker 1: talking like when they were really good for one year,

801
00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:57,200
Speaker 1: okay with you exactly in their heyday? Which one would

802
00:44:57,239 --> 00:45:04,040
Speaker 1: you take? It's a coin flip, right now, go to

803
00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:08,600
Speaker 1: coin they weren't good. Nick had more success than three.

804
00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:11,799
Speaker 1: But here's the thing. You wanna know why I would

805
00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:14,720
Speaker 1: take Why I think a team would is more likely

806
00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:17,440
Speaker 1: because I think talent wise, it's a coin flip. But

807
00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:22,040
Speaker 1: why they would sign r G three before cap because

808
00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:27,160
Speaker 1: there's no there's no major story in distraction. And I

809
00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:32,200
Speaker 1: used to say with any player, if you are going

810
00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:37,880
Speaker 1: to bring distraction or news stories or uh or talk

811
00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:40,879
Speaker 1: that is away from the football field in the game

812
00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:45,680
Speaker 1: of football, then you better be really dang good because

813
00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:46,960
Speaker 1: the team is not going to do it for a

814
00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:51,799
Speaker 1: backup player of any position. And so and everyone, you know,

815
00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:55,160
Speaker 1: you hear, you know that Kaepernick is not getting a

816
00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:57,880
Speaker 1: fair shake, and that he's you know, being you know,

817
00:45:57,960 --> 00:46:01,319
Speaker 1: shut out. There's collusion and all these all this talk,

818
00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:04,279
Speaker 1: and I'm I don't think there is. But what I

819
00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:09,080
Speaker 1: think it is is team owners don't like listen, if

820
00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:12,280
Speaker 1: you were really good, Like here's the deal. If Tom

821
00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:17,239
Speaker 1: Brady or uh Drew Brees or Cam Newton or go

822
00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:23,320
Speaker 1: down the list of top ten quarterbacks, hat we're causing distraction,

823
00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:27,040
Speaker 1: causing non football stories. Every team would still line up

824
00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:29,880
Speaker 1: to have them on the team because they're talent outweighs

825
00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:33,920
Speaker 1: any distraction or any nuisance they bring. But when you're

826
00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:37,080
Speaker 1: the nuisance and the distractions is bigger than your talent,

827
00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:39,840
Speaker 1: you're not getting a job. That's just how it works,

828
00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:41,680
Speaker 1: all right. So we we gotta save time for the

829
00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:50,680
Speaker 1: Drew Lahoya jeweler for allegedly lying about the value of

830
00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:57,319
Speaker 1: investment grade diamonds. They paid around and they ended up

831
00:46:57,360 --> 00:47:00,279
Speaker 1: being worth about six million. I thought, I of those

832
00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:05,040
Speaker 1: fifteen and nine, read fifteen and nine, fifteen and six anyway,

833
00:47:05,080 --> 00:47:08,080
Speaker 1: So the bottom line is he bought He bought a

834
00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:11,239
Speaker 1: lot of jewelry. But it wasn't diamonds. When you read

835
00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:13,320
Speaker 1: it the first time, I thought, like when you hear jewelry,

836
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:15,879
Speaker 1: I was like, like fifteen millions of stuff, like you're

837
00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:18,040
Speaker 1: gonna wear, your wife's gonna wear. It's not that type

838
00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:23,040
Speaker 1: of jewelry. He actually bought stones investment grade, not set

839
00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:29,160
Speaker 1: in a ring. Investment grade, you know, just one of

840
00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:31,400
Speaker 1: those one of those categories you know that you've just

841
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:35,720
Speaker 1: gotta have. But he and he said he got swindows. God.

842
00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:40,080
Speaker 1: I mean you go and you if you read, if

843
00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:45,840
Speaker 1: you read anything or learn anything about about investing, the

844
00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:48,239
Speaker 1: first of all, taking care of your money. Diverse five

845
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Speaker 1: investment grade. Diamonds is not one of the categories they

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Speaker 1: teach you about. But precious stones is. That's cold so different.

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying I owned any but I'm saying when

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Speaker 1: anyone buy fifteen million dollars with a jewelry? Then you

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Speaker 1: if you I read it again, and I'm not I'm

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Speaker 1: not an investment advisor. I'm not saying it's a good investment,

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Speaker 1: bad investment. Obviously he trusted the wrong person. I got

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Speaker 1: some dimonds he needs to buy. Wait is saying this, Jeff,

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Speaker 1: people I got I got people buy gold. People buy

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Speaker 1: gold all the time. Yeah, because most of the people

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Speaker 1: that buy gold aren't actually buying gold that's in your

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Speaker 1: hand block of gold woods etfund or something. I mean,

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Speaker 1: but some people actually buy gold. Gold You can buy it, Yes,

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Speaker 1: where do they make this gold bully on how it's

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Speaker 1: not right? It's right there. Where are you making fun?

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Speaker 1: Everyone says wrong? Where do they make this stuff? Help

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Speaker 1: me out here, Joe, my right. The boy story is there,

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Speaker 1: not that that you can buy that type of gold

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Speaker 1: or whatever it is. This is but when I read that,

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Speaker 1: I couldn't believe it. He's buying diamonds, fifteen million dollars

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Speaker 1: when he paid. He's upset, very good less dummy. Why

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Speaker 1: didn't you have him a praise before you brought him?

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Speaker 1: Who knows? Hey, that's it for the show tonight. Been

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Speaker 1: back from galivanting in California. Joe Fortunato, Jeff Flog JP

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Speaker 1: Shadow Next week Jaguars Thursday, Jaguars Radio