1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:03,000 Speaker 1: Unpacking the Toolbox is a production of Shondaland Audio in 2 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:34,320 Speaker 1: partnership with Higheartradiots and Katie. What's up, y'all? Listen? Not 3 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:37,640 Speaker 1: only do we have an amazing episode, but before we 4 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:41,239 Speaker 1: break it down, we're gonna talk to Tony goo goo 5 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:46,040 Speaker 1: goo goold wind, good good wind. And we're just gonna 6 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:50,080 Speaker 1: get some you know, chatting with him and see what's 7 00:00:50,159 --> 00:00:50,680 Speaker 1: up with him. 8 00:00:50,800 --> 00:00:54,400 Speaker 2: And also you are all obsessed with him, so we 9 00:00:54,440 --> 00:00:57,960 Speaker 2: can't do we We try to bring you what you want. 10 00:00:58,120 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 2: We try to listen to our glady, your fans, and 11 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:03,000 Speaker 2: you all just want Tony all the dang time. So 12 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:03,600 Speaker 2: here he is. 13 00:01:03,720 --> 00:01:07,280 Speaker 1: Take you off, Tony, take your shirt off. 14 00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:09,880 Speaker 2: Wait, Tony, we don't want to keep you for everybody. 15 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:11,680 Speaker 2: I really need to like dig your brain. Can you 16 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 2: talk to us about Oppenheimer and how that was to 17 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:18,000 Speaker 2: shoot and all of that. Gee, did you see it? 18 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:20,160 Speaker 1: I haven't seen it yet? Can you believe it? I 19 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:22,640 Speaker 1: have to watch it. I'm going to, oh see it. 20 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:24,360 Speaker 3: You'll like it. It's a really good movie and. 21 00:01:24,319 --> 00:01:26,840 Speaker 2: I'm obsessed with it. And he would want to know 22 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:29,880 Speaker 2: how your experience was working on and our listeners tell 23 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:30,560 Speaker 2: us about it. 24 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:34,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's really a good movie. I loved it. I looked, man, 25 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:37,080 Speaker 4: I was. I was so excited when I got a 26 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 4: call saying, oh, Christopher Nolan wants to talk see this 27 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:39,640 Speaker 4: part in his movie. 28 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god. 29 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:44,560 Speaker 4: And it's pretty funny because I said, well, what's the 30 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:46,440 Speaker 4: part and they said, we don't really know that. It's 31 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:48,200 Speaker 4: a it's a guy who was the chair of this 32 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:51,520 Speaker 4: committee of you know, and here he was a real person. 33 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:53,640 Speaker 4: And they give me the name and they said, there's 34 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:58,200 Speaker 4: no you can't read a script until you say yes 35 00:01:58,280 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 4: and your deal is done. That's like the way Chris works. 36 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:03,200 Speaker 4: So I was like, oh, was it a big part 37 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:03,920 Speaker 4: of a small. 38 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:03,920 Speaker 3: Part of this? 39 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 4: Well they're saying it's a good part, but we don't 40 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 4: really know, and I say, yeah, so I you know, 41 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:12,640 Speaker 4: so I go in and do it and and but 42 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:16,240 Speaker 4: it was. It was an incredible cast, Oh my god. 43 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:18,919 Speaker 4: And it was really thrilling for me because I admired 44 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:22,920 Speaker 4: Chris's work so much. He's like a bucket list director. 45 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 4: And I was about to start directing my film Ezra, 46 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:28,880 Speaker 4: which I did it right after that was just coming 47 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:30,040 Speaker 4: out in May. 48 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 3: Thirty First. 49 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:37,120 Speaker 4: Baby kind of Ali Rose Bern vera for me anyway, Yes, 50 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 4: I'm so so it was really inspiring to work with him. 51 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:43,800 Speaker 3: He I get this. 52 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:48,800 Speaker 4: So the way that Chris works, there's like it's super efficient. 53 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 4: There is no cell phones allowed anywhere even nearer the set, 54 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:57,840 Speaker 4: no devices at all. No one goes back to their trailers. 55 00:02:57,840 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 4: Everyone is like, there are no stand ins and other 56 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 4: words for the listeners. 57 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:02,120 Speaker 1: I love. 58 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:05,000 Speaker 4: What often happens in a set is the actors. There's 59 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 4: a lot of time, you know, you rehearse a scene, 60 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 4: and then while they're getting the cameras set up, they're lighting, 61 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 4: and they have what are called stand ins, which are 62 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:14,360 Speaker 4: actors who come in and walk your part, like all 63 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:15,800 Speaker 4: of a stand The three of us would have a 64 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:18,760 Speaker 4: stand in to stand there while they're lighting, because it's 65 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:21,080 Speaker 4: kind of exhausting to stand there and do it. And 66 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 4: then when the things all lit, the stand ins go 67 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 4: away and the actors come back and do the scene. 68 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:30,120 Speaker 4: So but he doesn't use any stand ins, so either 69 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:31,840 Speaker 4: a crew member just stands in for an actor or 70 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:33,520 Speaker 4: the actor. They say, Tony, we need you to stand, 71 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:36,120 Speaker 4: and you're just you know, so we can light so things. 72 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 4: There's no video village, which is the place where all 73 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:42,400 Speaker 4: the producers watch the because he waste time. 74 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:43,839 Speaker 3: He feels it's a waste of time. 75 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 1: Is he just watching? He's watching. 76 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:48,760 Speaker 4: There's no video village, which is the place for listeners. 77 00:03:48,880 --> 00:03:50,800 Speaker 4: This is the place where like they have video monitors, 78 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 4: where all the producers and everybody gathers around next to 79 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:55,760 Speaker 4: the set to watch. He doesn't allow any of that, 80 00:03:55,800 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 4: so no one sees what's happening except for him. He 81 00:03:58,120 --> 00:04:03,400 Speaker 4: stands by the camera the entire day, from the first minute. 82 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 4: He's right next to the camera. He has a little 83 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 4: tiny cassio monitor with a antenna he's probably had for 84 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:11,920 Speaker 4: twenty five years, and he has round his necks and 85 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 4: you sort of check the shot on a screen. But 86 00:04:14,320 --> 00:04:16,560 Speaker 4: he just stands by this which is what directors used 87 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:19,720 Speaker 4: to do all the time before fancy video monitors. And 88 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 4: he's just there on set and his script tub advisor 89 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:25,960 Speaker 4: who's next door, has a little monitor you know that 90 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:26,520 Speaker 4: he watches. 91 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 3: Other than that. 92 00:04:27,279 --> 00:04:29,120 Speaker 4: And then the other thing is there's no last looks, 93 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:31,719 Speaker 4: which to again to lay people, what that means is 94 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:36,119 Speaker 4: that typically before every time the camera rolls, they say okay, 95 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 4: last looks, and then the makeup and hair people come 96 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:41,760 Speaker 4: in and touch up the actors before every shot, which 97 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:45,719 Speaker 4: takes a few minutes every single time, so over a 98 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:48,679 Speaker 4: day you used to lose hours, you know, of people 99 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 4: fussing with your hair and your makeup for no reason, 100 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:53,159 Speaker 4: and he doesn't allow any of it. So there's no 101 00:04:53,279 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 4: last looks. So if there's a problem and he sees it, 102 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 4: or the dpcs that, or an actor needs something, then 103 00:04:58,320 --> 00:05:01,080 Speaker 4: the makeup person is standing drastic him in and fix 104 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 4: it and address it if someone smell. 105 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:05,599 Speaker 3: So it was like super efficient. 106 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 4: So as a result, everyone is hyper focused the entire time, 107 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:14,600 Speaker 4: and you move incredibly quickly and everyone's like right there 108 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:16,919 Speaker 4: because the actors have to be very nearby because you 109 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 4: never know someone's gonna go, oh, you know Katie, Chris 110 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 4: wants you on set to for to stand in. 111 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:24,160 Speaker 3: And so you're like, oh, you run. 112 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:28,800 Speaker 4: Like this and all the actress hang out in an 113 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:31,160 Speaker 4: adjacent room because there's nobody's on cell phones, so everyone 114 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:32,800 Speaker 4: talks to each other and you so you meet all 115 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:36,160 Speaker 4: these super cool people and it was very inspiring. 116 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 1: That is so exciting. 117 00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:42,040 Speaker 3: He's like brilliant too, because so there was that. 118 00:05:42,160 --> 00:05:43,960 Speaker 1: All that bullshit that we get caught up with as 119 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:46,479 Speaker 1: actors because I remember even on Scandal and other shows, right, 120 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:48,440 Speaker 1: if they didn't come up to us to give us 121 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 1: last looks, we'd be like, can I get last looks? 122 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 5: Like even if you didn't need it, just to be like, 123 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:56,479 Speaker 5: I wouldn't feel like I'm important or you know what 124 00:05:56,520 --> 00:05:58,440 Speaker 5: I mean, like I'm taking care of yea, all that 125 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:01,359 Speaker 5: bs that we get caught up that he is just 126 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 5: eliminates on his set. 127 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:06,280 Speaker 1: I love that so much. And stand ins too. Back 128 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:08,000 Speaker 1: in the day when you did indie films, we didn't 129 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:11,680 Speaker 1: have any standings. You would just stay there yourself and let. 130 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:14,599 Speaker 4: Them union thing like I tried when I did Ezra, 131 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:17,200 Speaker 4: my my film that that I did, I tried to 132 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:19,520 Speaker 4: eliminate standings and I got in con trouble with the union. 133 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:22,640 Speaker 4: They can't do that really taking a lot of jobs away, 134 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:29,520 Speaker 4: So I can't Universal. Universal must have paid, you know, 135 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:32,279 Speaker 4: they must have. I can only think they hired stand 136 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:34,720 Speaker 4: ins and just never used them because you know this 137 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:36,279 Speaker 4: that you have, you have. 138 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:37,480 Speaker 1: To hire stand ins. Wow. 139 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:40,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, at least that I was in the New York 140 00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:42,359 Speaker 4: So maybe it's not the l A Union, but the 141 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:44,480 Speaker 4: New York SAG in New York was like no that's 142 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 4: not an option. Wow. 143 00:06:47,440 --> 00:06:50,320 Speaker 3: Great, I'm super excited about Ezra. 144 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:55,080 Speaker 4: So yeah, as you mentioned, so it's Bobby Conna Valley 145 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:57,800 Speaker 4: and Robert de Niro and Rose Byrne and will Be 146 00:06:57,880 --> 00:07:02,200 Speaker 4: Goldberg and viewa Farmiga and ring Will and this brilliant 147 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:07,400 Speaker 4: young actor, a teenage actor named William Fitzgerald who is 148 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 4: autistic because he's the title character. He plays an autistic 149 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 4: eleven year old boy. Yeah, it's a movie that was 150 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:20,040 Speaker 4: written by my oldest and dearest friend, Tony Spiritoctus, who 151 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:22,320 Speaker 4: you guys might have met at some point along the 152 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:26,000 Speaker 4: Scandle years. But Tony has an autistic son and wanted 153 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:29,600 Speaker 4: to write a movie about his experience when his son, Dimitri, 154 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:31,960 Speaker 4: was like eleven years old and they went through a 155 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:35,080 Speaker 4: really tough time and then Tony's marriage broke up, and 156 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:37,560 Speaker 4: so this is the story of Bobby plays a stand 157 00:07:37,640 --> 00:07:41,000 Speaker 4: up comic who's going through a divorce, and their eleven 158 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:45,679 Speaker 4: year old son who's super brilliant but really having problems 159 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 4: in school and keeps getting thrown out of school and 160 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:50,200 Speaker 4: finally gets thrown out of his final school and the experts. 161 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:51,320 Speaker 3: Are saying he's a danger to himself. 162 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 4: He needs to be heavily medicated and put in a 163 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:57,360 Speaker 4: special school, and the mother Rose his characters, just trying 164 00:07:57,360 --> 00:08:00,120 Speaker 4: to hold it all together. And Bobby, who's probably on 165 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:02,800 Speaker 4: the spectrum himself, who's now living in his dad's house, 166 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 4: who de Niro plays, who's also this very eccentric cut 167 00:08:07,280 --> 00:08:10,679 Speaker 4: Bobby becomes convinced that the system is trying to destroy 168 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:13,760 Speaker 4: his son and he's not having it, and he says, 169 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:17,680 Speaker 4: no fucking way, and he takes his kid in the 170 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 4: middle of the night and without telling anyone, takes him on, 171 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:21,920 Speaker 4: puts him in the car, and takes him on a 172 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 4: road trip across the country, and meanwhile finds out he's booked, 173 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:29,480 Speaker 4: even booked on Jimmy Kimmel, who he's like, We're going 174 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:33,720 Speaker 4: to La to be on Kimmel, and no one knows 175 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 4: where he is. 176 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:36,240 Speaker 3: So the police get involved, and there's like an amberle. 177 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:38,840 Speaker 4: It gets very crazy, and so de Niro and Rose 178 00:08:38,960 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 4: go across country together to try and find them before 179 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:43,720 Speaker 4: the police can get them. And it's really a love 180 00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:47,440 Speaker 4: story between this father and his boy and this kid 181 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:50,760 Speaker 4: who William is just brilliant, who never acted before, and 182 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:54,840 Speaker 4: we found this really young autistic kid who was just amazing. 183 00:08:54,960 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 1: And do you have like an open call? Did you 184 00:08:57,080 --> 00:08:57,920 Speaker 1: guys have an open call? 185 00:08:58,120 --> 00:09:02,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, we did like a nationwide search for you in Canada. 186 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:05,360 Speaker 4: And yeah, Kerry Barton and Paul shna Or Casting Jork 187 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:07,360 Speaker 4: just did this whole search and with through all these 188 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:10,679 Speaker 4: autism communities that you know, organizations to try and find 189 00:09:11,240 --> 00:09:14,000 Speaker 4: a kid, and we saw a hundred kids and and 190 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:16,880 Speaker 4: William at the very last minute, you know, sending a 191 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:19,920 Speaker 4: tape piece from Montclair, New Jersey, and he was just 192 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:22,599 Speaker 4: I was like, I think weeks before we started to 193 00:09:22,679 --> 00:09:23,760 Speaker 4: have a super excited. 194 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:25,959 Speaker 2: My god, Yeah, where does it come out? 195 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:27,760 Speaker 3: And how can it comes out to movie theaters? 196 00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 4: Movie theaters May thirty first. Wow, So you'll be hearing 197 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:32,280 Speaker 4: more from me about that. 198 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:36,520 Speaker 2: Oh, I can't wait to see this. 199 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:39,400 Speaker 3: I'll let you guys do a scream. We'll start. 200 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 1: Yes, well not only that, not only Ezra Tony is 201 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:49,560 Speaker 1: joining the Law and Order universe. Yes, so freaking amazing. 202 00:09:49,640 --> 00:09:51,800 Speaker 2: How does that feel? Did you start shooting? 203 00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:53,360 Speaker 3: Yeah? 204 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:56,120 Speaker 2: Is fun? It's a scandal. I doubt it. 205 00:09:56,360 --> 00:09:59,440 Speaker 3: No, no, no, it's nice. You know what it has? 206 00:09:59,520 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 3: It does have. 207 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:03,520 Speaker 4: So I'm replacing this in the same waters. Sam Waterston 208 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:08,480 Speaker 4: sort of iconic character in the New District Attorney. So 209 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:12,319 Speaker 4: and uh it's fun, I mean, which I just didn't 210 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 4: like two days, you know, so far. But Hugh Dancy, 211 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:18,199 Speaker 4: who I love, is whereas you know, sort of the 212 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:22,120 Speaker 4: the DA that I work with most closely. And uh, 213 00:10:22,960 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 4: and what it's cool. The thing that's similar is there's 214 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 4: a very familial environment to the Law and Order world, 215 00:10:31,120 --> 00:10:33,640 Speaker 4: you know, which is everyone's super nice, super happy to 216 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:38,600 Speaker 4: be there. It's very family oriented and chill and so's 217 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:40,160 Speaker 4: it is like Scandal in that way. 218 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 1: Did you ever did you ever do Law and Order 219 00:10:42,160 --> 00:10:44,160 Speaker 1: like when you first started acting Tony like as a 220 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:44,520 Speaker 1: guest star. 221 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:47,360 Speaker 3: Now I feel like to any of us episode you did. 222 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:49,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, I directed an episode like and I think, god, 223 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:51,679 Speaker 4: it was a long time, like almost twenty years in 224 00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:52,800 Speaker 4: two thousand and six. 225 00:10:52,760 --> 00:10:54,319 Speaker 1: Of the original Law Sam. 226 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:57,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, the original of Sam and many Parice was in it, 227 00:10:57,880 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 4: and Dennis Farino was one of the cops. Remember Dennis, Yeah, 228 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:04,120 Speaker 4: such a great actor. And and Jesse Bradford was that 229 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:07,560 Speaker 4: his name was the other cop. Yeah and yeah, all 230 00:11:07,559 --> 00:11:10,319 Speaker 4: these amazing actors were the guest stars in it. And uh, 231 00:11:10,520 --> 00:11:14,160 Speaker 4: and then I did a four episode arc of Criminal intent, 232 00:11:14,880 --> 00:11:17,560 Speaker 4: played Vincedinofrio's crack Addicted Brother. 233 00:11:21,160 --> 00:11:25,079 Speaker 1: Criminals. I played on Law and Order on all of it. 234 00:11:25,240 --> 00:11:29,439 Speaker 1: Oh my god, a drug dealer. I was a murder 235 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:33,400 Speaker 1: I've worn all the different colors of the of the 236 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:36,840 Speaker 1: prison suits. Orange. I think it was just art. 237 00:11:38,360 --> 00:11:41,120 Speaker 4: Oh my god, were you Were you a criminal in 238 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:43,400 Speaker 4: the organized crime? Uh? 239 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:48,160 Speaker 1: No, I was a detective, which is super very interesting, 240 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:50,040 Speaker 1: very different. But I did the Law and Order when 241 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:52,959 Speaker 1: Christopher k Nooth Big from Sex and the City Katie 242 00:11:53,080 --> 00:11:54,000 Speaker 1: was still in the show. 243 00:11:54,520 --> 00:11:57,120 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, Chris was the original you know detective. 244 00:11:57,360 --> 00:11:58,680 Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah. 245 00:11:58,960 --> 00:12:02,520 Speaker 2: Ever done anything on it? Really, I think that they're 246 00:12:02,559 --> 00:12:06,240 Speaker 2: saving me for you know, like they're saving me or 247 00:12:06,320 --> 00:12:08,040 Speaker 2: like something. Hey guys, I. 248 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:11,760 Speaker 3: Think after I think I need to whisper into a couple. 249 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:17,600 Speaker 2: Of that can. It's available in a little bit. I 250 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:19,240 Speaker 2: am available. I would love to do it. I would 251 00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:20,880 Speaker 2: love to work in New York. I love working in 252 00:12:20,920 --> 00:12:23,280 Speaker 2: New York. I've never done that show. I auditioned a 253 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:25,400 Speaker 2: million times when I was first starting out, didn't book it, 254 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:28,120 Speaker 2: and then I got offered a thing and I turned 255 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:29,120 Speaker 2: it down. I know, I know. 256 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:30,199 Speaker 1: Poo poo poo, poo hoo. 257 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:30,400 Speaker 4: Boo. 258 00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:33,360 Speaker 2: Yes, but it was right after Scandal had ended and 259 00:12:33,400 --> 00:12:35,280 Speaker 2: I had a brand new baby. It's a lot of 260 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:38,640 Speaker 2: crying because you're like, oh my god, I like can't 261 00:12:38,920 --> 00:12:41,040 Speaker 2: like I just don't have it in me. 262 00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:45,040 Speaker 1: I ki'd just done that last episode fifteen days, yes 263 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:49,400 Speaker 1: from Scandal, where you were like handcuffed right in like 264 00:12:49,480 --> 00:12:51,080 Speaker 1: a seller, and I had just I. 265 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:54,119 Speaker 2: Was and I was like, I just need a comedy 266 00:12:54,559 --> 00:12:57,280 Speaker 2: or like something that's sunny. I just don't want to 267 00:12:57,320 --> 00:13:00,320 Speaker 2: do it right now. Sorry, Law and Order, come back again, 268 00:13:00,440 --> 00:13:08,520 Speaker 2: knock on my door, call my agent. But wait, my 269 00:13:08,559 --> 00:13:12,599 Speaker 2: friend read Scott who is he's one oar with you. 270 00:13:13,280 --> 00:13:13,960 Speaker 3: We're so good. 271 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:16,720 Speaker 2: We are we see each other in the mornings every 272 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:19,000 Speaker 2: day because we go to the same school. And I 273 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:21,719 Speaker 2: was like, you are the luckiest dog, like you get 274 00:13:21,760 --> 00:13:23,280 Speaker 2: to work with Tony Gold when he was like, he 275 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:26,240 Speaker 2: is the nicest because I can't imagine what it would 276 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:29,800 Speaker 2: feel like to walk on to a set like a 277 00:13:29,840 --> 00:13:33,680 Speaker 2: lawn order that's been around for a like and how 278 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:35,880 Speaker 2: do people feel? But like you said, he said, no, 279 00:13:36,040 --> 00:13:40,439 Speaker 2: everyone is so nice, so welcoming, so professional. Tony fit 280 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:43,120 Speaker 2: in like everybody else, like it wasn't you. 281 00:13:43,080 --> 00:13:46,079 Speaker 4: Know that first scene actually was with with Reed and 282 00:13:46,280 --> 00:13:51,640 Speaker 4: uh and macad was the other nice was actually mccond 283 00:13:51,679 --> 00:13:55,040 Speaker 4: Brooks was on He was on Supergirl, which was Anna's 284 00:13:55,080 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 4: first job as a writer, my daughter, so they I 285 00:13:58,200 --> 00:14:01,000 Speaker 4: was like, mccon actually we met because my daughter Anna 286 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:03,920 Speaker 4: was on super writing for Supergirl, and he was like, 287 00:14:03,960 --> 00:14:06,360 Speaker 4: oh my god, that's right. So they were super sweet 288 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:09,920 Speaker 4: and wow, I love Read's work, he said so. And 289 00:14:09,920 --> 00:14:12,400 Speaker 4: it's unusual for the attorneys on Law and Order or 290 00:14:12,400 --> 00:14:15,200 Speaker 4: not usually with the cops, but my first, my introductory 291 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:16,760 Speaker 4: scene is with them, which was kind of fun. 292 00:14:17,280 --> 00:14:19,840 Speaker 2: So you are the greatest. Thank you for coming back 293 00:14:19,880 --> 00:14:23,640 Speaker 2: on Unpacking the Toolbox. I love you guys, president too 294 00:14:24,160 --> 00:14:26,520 Speaker 2: until Melly becomes our president. 295 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:30,480 Speaker 4: And it's the only remember about living in New York 296 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:32,320 Speaker 4: because I never get to see you guys, I know, 297 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:33,280 Speaker 4: I know. 298 00:14:33,880 --> 00:14:36,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, I need to do a Broadway trip real bad. 299 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:39,600 Speaker 2: I had one booked and then we had to cancel it. 300 00:14:39,640 --> 00:14:41,440 Speaker 2: But I need to do like a week of theater. 301 00:14:42,040 --> 00:14:44,400 Speaker 3: There's some good stuff going, Oh my god. 302 00:14:44,520 --> 00:14:46,760 Speaker 2: And I have so many friends and things that I've 303 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:48,960 Speaker 2: just been bailing and like not going and I like 304 00:14:49,120 --> 00:14:52,800 Speaker 2: really need to go see yeah. 305 00:14:52,160 --> 00:14:53,640 Speaker 3: Test just did a really great show. 306 00:14:54,800 --> 00:14:59,280 Speaker 4: Daughters tested this some beautiful production of this Polish play 307 00:14:59,280 --> 00:15:02,720 Speaker 4: at Damn the Brooklyn Academy of Music. It was so 308 00:15:02,800 --> 00:15:04,760 Speaker 4: good they just closed. 309 00:15:06,920 --> 00:15:07,280 Speaker 2: Acting. 310 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:09,720 Speaker 3: She was great. 311 00:15:09,880 --> 00:15:12,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, and then they were like, it was this cool, 312 00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:16,320 Speaker 4: really interesting director who sort of was like Evil Van Hover, 313 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:19,360 Speaker 4: you know, the sort of experimental European. He's a Ukrainian guy, 314 00:15:19,560 --> 00:15:21,080 Speaker 4: and it was really cool that he's actress from the 315 00:15:21,160 --> 00:15:21,920 Speaker 4: Moscow Art Theater. 316 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:24,000 Speaker 3: We're in it. It's a very international cast. It was 317 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:24,480 Speaker 3: very cool. 318 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:28,800 Speaker 1: That's so cool. 319 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:36,040 Speaker 2: She's mental highly regarded theater. That's so cool. It was 320 00:15:36,080 --> 00:15:36,920 Speaker 2: awesome for her. 321 00:15:37,200 --> 00:15:39,320 Speaker 1: How's Jane. How's Jane? 322 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:43,360 Speaker 4: Jane's good, great, Yes, she's kind of taking a break. 323 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:45,960 Speaker 4: And she worked up until the strike and then and 324 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:47,920 Speaker 4: then just you know, chilling. 325 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:49,480 Speaker 3: It's nice. She's doing great, though. 326 00:15:49,560 --> 00:15:51,520 Speaker 1: I'll tell you, Please tell her. 327 00:15:52,600 --> 00:15:54,800 Speaker 2: I tell your daughters. We say hi. We love you 328 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:55,640 Speaker 2: so much. 329 00:15:57,000 --> 00:16:00,880 Speaker 4: Babies and Adam and Mikey and yeah. 330 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:03,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, life is happening. What the hell? You will be 331 00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:05,480 Speaker 2: my first call when I come to New York, which 332 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:08,560 Speaker 2: hopefully is very soon. We will be back with more 333 00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:17,040 Speaker 2: after the break. We love you, Tony, Thank you so much. 334 00:16:17,080 --> 00:16:22,360 Speaker 2: For coming back on Unpacking the Tube. Tony, you're the greatest. Okay, gee, 335 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:23,400 Speaker 2: are you ready to do this? 336 00:16:23,600 --> 00:16:24,720 Speaker 1: Let's do it. I'm ready. 337 00:16:24,920 --> 00:16:29,880 Speaker 2: Let's break down this episode. People are getting down in 338 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:34,080 Speaker 2: scandaland we've got Andrew and Melly like on the Rise. 339 00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:36,400 Speaker 2: We obviously have Fits and Olivia on the Rise. We 340 00:16:36,480 --> 00:16:39,880 Speaker 2: have Harrison and Odd Non Salif going at it. We've 341 00:16:39,880 --> 00:16:44,880 Speaker 2: got Huck and Quinn like this season. Essentially, it's just 342 00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:49,000 Speaker 2: like everyone's having sex. Abby and David Rosen are having sex. 343 00:16:49,040 --> 00:16:51,440 Speaker 2: Like it's just a lot. Like I keep watching these 344 00:16:51,480 --> 00:16:54,640 Speaker 2: episodes and being like, oh my god, yeah, we're in 345 00:16:54,640 --> 00:16:57,080 Speaker 2: another sex scene. We're in another sex scene. This is 346 00:16:57,120 --> 00:17:01,040 Speaker 2: a ten PM show, y'all. Okay, okay, okay. Today we're 347 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:04,280 Speaker 2: talking about episode three twelve, which was called We Do 348 00:17:04,520 --> 00:17:08,320 Speaker 2: Not Touch the First Ladies. It aired on I love 349 00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:10,560 Speaker 2: that title, and I loved he came out in the episode. 350 00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:12,399 Speaker 2: More on that later. It aired on March sixth in 351 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:13,760 Speaker 2: twenty fourteen. 352 00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:16,120 Speaker 1: And it was written by Heather Mitchell and directed by 353 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:19,600 Speaker 1: the Oliver Bolkelberg, who was also our DP on the 354 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:21,600 Speaker 1: show Yes We Love Him. 355 00:17:21,680 --> 00:17:24,720 Speaker 2: Love, and it was guest starring Greg Henry as Hollis Doyle, 356 00:17:24,840 --> 00:17:28,280 Speaker 2: John Tenny is Governor Andrew Nichols, Candy Alexander as Maya Lewis, 357 00:17:28,359 --> 00:17:30,399 Speaker 2: Nazanine Bodiati as Adnan. 358 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:34,120 Speaker 1: Salif, Brian Lesher is Tom Paul Addlstein as Leo Bergen, 359 00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:38,080 Speaker 1: and Laura Laurence Demil as Carlos Steele and Jennifer Peo 360 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:39,560 Speaker 1: as Vanessa Chandler. 361 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:42,639 Speaker 2: And let me jog my memory because I watched a 362 00:17:42,680 --> 00:17:44,639 Speaker 2: couple episodes back to back that we're so good, and 363 00:17:44,680 --> 00:17:46,159 Speaker 2: I'm like, wait, wait, wait, hold up, what happens in 364 00:17:46,160 --> 00:17:46,440 Speaker 2: this one? 365 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:47,400 Speaker 1: Yes? Me too. 366 00:17:48,359 --> 00:17:51,840 Speaker 2: The Grands campaign is threatened when a reporter comes forward 367 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:54,639 Speaker 2: with a story about drug use in the Governor's mansion 368 00:17:54,680 --> 00:17:57,520 Speaker 2: before Fitz ran for president. Andrew takes the blame, but 369 00:17:57,600 --> 00:18:01,400 Speaker 2: flashbacks reveal that Melly to end her life after being 370 00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:03,359 Speaker 2: assaulted by Jerry Grant. 371 00:18:03,680 --> 00:18:06,840 Speaker 1: Meanwhile, Quinn wants to be in on B six thirteen's 372 00:18:06,880 --> 00:18:09,800 Speaker 1: plans but gets sidelined until she proves her worth, and 373 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:12,560 Speaker 1: Huck seems to try to keep apologize to Olivia until 374 00:18:12,600 --> 00:18:15,000 Speaker 1: we learn that he feels like the Quinn situation was 375 00:18:15,040 --> 00:18:17,840 Speaker 1: actually Olivia's fault, and in the end, all is good. 376 00:18:17,920 --> 00:18:22,120 Speaker 1: Except for odd non Salif and Mama Pope are working together. 377 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:28,600 Speaker 2: Okay, so like this episode was fucking great, but we're 378 00:18:28,320 --> 00:18:32,520 Speaker 2: we're we've got the ticket. The ticket is Fits and 379 00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:36,640 Speaker 2: Andrew are gonna run together. They've been boys, they've been 380 00:18:36,720 --> 00:18:41,400 Speaker 2: bros for one hundred years research and they're like, holy shit, 381 00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:42,879 Speaker 2: we can't have Andrew on the ticket. He's got to 382 00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:44,879 Speaker 2: get off the ticket because he got delivered like a 383 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:49,800 Speaker 2: bunch of oxy or something to the Governor's mansion twenty 384 00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:51,879 Speaker 2: years ago when they found out that he was working 385 00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:55,000 Speaker 2: with like a sketchy doctor. And then it's like we 386 00:18:55,080 --> 00:18:58,320 Speaker 2: learn that he's just taking the fall for Melly. Melly 387 00:18:58,720 --> 00:19:01,119 Speaker 2: actually got the delivery of those drugs, took them all 388 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:05,080 Speaker 2: and tried to kill herself after Jerry SR raped her. 389 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:08,440 Speaker 2: Nightmare not great, Germo, What did you think of this episode? 390 00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:11,920 Speaker 1: Katie? What I thought of this episode? I put into 391 00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:13,240 Speaker 1: a stream of consciousness? 392 00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:14,520 Speaker 2: You did not, dinghy? 393 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:16,399 Speaker 1: I sure? Did you want to hear it? 394 00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:20,200 Speaker 2: Resident Unpacking the Toolbox Poet? 395 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:24,200 Speaker 1: Check this out, y'all, Episode three twelve, Stream of Consciousness. 396 00:19:24,359 --> 00:19:28,000 Speaker 1: This fight, this fight, it's real, It's so real real. 397 00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:29,880 Speaker 1: Are we in my living room right now? Nope, nope, 398 00:19:29,880 --> 00:19:31,920 Speaker 1: it's just a show just to show people. But it's 399 00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:33,960 Speaker 1: so good. She is not a hen or a prize. 400 00:19:33,960 --> 00:19:36,080 Speaker 1: She's a queen, is what she is. Fits You better 401 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:38,000 Speaker 1: get them socks on and get to get your dudes 402 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:40,719 Speaker 1: are right outside. You have a country to run. Scanadle 403 00:19:41,119 --> 00:19:44,640 Speaker 1: cut to Melly Melancholy, Melly, the flashback, the pain, the rage, 404 00:19:44,680 --> 00:19:47,240 Speaker 1: the guilt, the Bob. It's all there, oozing out of 405 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:50,840 Speaker 1: Bellamy through Melly Melancholy Melly. But Fitz can't know, He 406 00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:53,160 Speaker 1: can never know, except for the Bob. He knows about 407 00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:56,680 Speaker 1: the Bob. Harrison and Oddnan almost too hot for scandal, 408 00:19:56,960 --> 00:19:59,840 Speaker 1: Almost Langston and Doyle. It's like the devil looking at 409 00:19:59,880 --> 00:20:02,160 Speaker 1: her stuff in the mirror. I want energy, secretary pick, 410 00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:05,400 Speaker 1: says Doyle. Hail Satan. They can't say no. They can't 411 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:09,320 Speaker 1: say no, Hail Satan. We're in Oba, people boarding Nichols. 412 00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:12,040 Speaker 1: The powers that be are apparently trying to expose Andrew's 413 00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:14,639 Speaker 1: prescription drug use. What evs let he who has not 414 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:17,920 Speaker 1: sinned cast the first stone? Ooop? What's that? I hear? Crickets? Yep, 415 00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:21,159 Speaker 1: but what did you expect in this pile of hoodlums? Okay, 416 00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:23,080 Speaker 1: this is freaking crazy. Live is at dinner with Dad, 417 00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:25,120 Speaker 1: acting like she cares to get something out of him, 418 00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:27,720 Speaker 1: but he knows what's up. Lives all later pops Worth 419 00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:30,760 Speaker 1: a shot. Meanwhile, Quinn is fine on Homegirl with binoculars 420 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:33,640 Speaker 1: from her car. Live sees and gets sin. Come on, Perkins, 421 00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:35,919 Speaker 1: But Quinn done lost her mind as she told Olivy 422 00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:38,639 Speaker 1: to get out or she'll shoot her. Say what I can't? 423 00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:43,159 Speaker 1: I can't, but yo, these flashbacks with melancholy melli are 424 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:45,439 Speaker 1: killing me. But that Bob looking fierce. You know what 425 00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:47,240 Speaker 1: they say is better to look good than to feel good. 426 00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:50,160 Speaker 1: That's my motto. Oh I digress looks like Andrew cares 427 00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:52,399 Speaker 1: for he really he really does. Wait could it be 428 00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:55,760 Speaker 1: the Bob? Nah, he really cares? And the fuck is 429 00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:58,000 Speaker 1: it with Huck in this coffee bringing business? Hey, Huck, 430 00:20:58,040 --> 00:20:59,639 Speaker 1: here's a napkin. You got a lot of bit of 431 00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:01,919 Speaker 1: crazy on your face. Do you know what else is crazy? 432 00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:05,200 Speaker 1: All this? Pooplius Rosen and Carlos Steel drama, A trunk 433 00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:07,560 Speaker 1: a man, a love call? Please make it stop or 434 00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:10,320 Speaker 1: make it go faster and harder? Okay, Abby, I see 435 00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:12,719 Speaker 1: you here with the save uh Huck with more coffee 436 00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:15,800 Speaker 1: for live. Does she take that coffee with sugar? Nope? 437 00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:19,119 Speaker 1: Oh well how about a dollar of truth Ooh yum, 438 00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:23,800 Speaker 1: just perfect? Thanks Hucks, sorry Live your move, Her, Her, her, 439 00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:27,560 Speaker 1: Melly and Andrew in front of her, her portrait, the Legend, 440 00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:32,320 Speaker 1: the class, the Grace, Camelot, JFK, the loss, so much loss, 441 00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:36,520 Speaker 1: but still standing, still hanging in the House of White Jackie. 442 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:39,320 Speaker 1: Oh damn, this show is crazy. 443 00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:44,960 Speaker 2: Guirmo, What the fuck you have to publish these. 444 00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:47,280 Speaker 1: You? 445 00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:50,960 Speaker 2: We need to get this motherfucker a book agent, a 446 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:54,919 Speaker 2: poet agent. These should be public. I mean, this was 447 00:21:55,160 --> 00:22:02,600 Speaker 2: so good, Ghirmo. Okay, multiple notes. Favorite scenes of yours. 448 00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:04,840 Speaker 1: Gee, oh my god, there were so many. Well listen. 449 00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:08,359 Speaker 1: Right at the top was one of my favorite scenes 450 00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:12,520 Speaker 1: where we see fits in Olivia in a huge fight, 451 00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:14,800 Speaker 1: and it's one of the first times that I thought, 452 00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:18,119 Speaker 1: oh shit, these people are like it felt like I 453 00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:20,879 Speaker 1: was like it was me and my living room with 454 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:23,520 Speaker 1: my partner fighting. It felt so real and I love 455 00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:26,480 Speaker 1: that like they were mad at each other, they. 456 00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:29,440 Speaker 2: Were so mad, they were so mad and he and 457 00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:32,160 Speaker 2: I was like, he says, shut up and let me talk, 458 00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:35,000 Speaker 2: which I actually like gasped out loud. I was like, 459 00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:38,919 Speaker 2: holy shit, like a real couple. Yes, like a real couple. 460 00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:42,840 Speaker 2: And then she says, like she did this thing. Olivia says, 461 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:45,400 Speaker 2: I have a desire to wake up and face myself 462 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:47,880 Speaker 2: in the mirror. My whole life is not about. 463 00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:50,119 Speaker 1: You, yes, and she's all, I'm not a hen. I 464 00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:52,520 Speaker 1: am not a prize, which I love. 465 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:54,520 Speaker 2: I'm not a hen in your hen house. It was 466 00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:58,560 Speaker 2: really it was great because you can see how it's 467 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:04,000 Speaker 2: like people fighting and sleeping together. It's like same sides 468 00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:06,439 Speaker 2: of I mean, different sides of the same coin or whatever, 469 00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:08,679 Speaker 2: and like you could see how passionate they get and 470 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:10,200 Speaker 2: how like crazy yeah yeah. 471 00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:13,119 Speaker 1: And then but then we cut to you know, his 472 00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:17,240 Speaker 1: whole security detail right outside her door, listening to the 473 00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:20,399 Speaker 1: fight with Jake, and Jake is there and they're talking 474 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:22,399 Speaker 1: about Jake, you know what I mean. So there's that 475 00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:25,879 Speaker 1: uncomfortable situation. Once they you know, exit the apartment and 476 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:28,120 Speaker 1: Jake's all dumb right here. 477 00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:32,440 Speaker 2: Crazy, we cut back to this flashback fourteen years ago, 478 00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:35,399 Speaker 2: Like we're seeing Mellie and Andrew. They're flirting a lot, 479 00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:38,919 Speaker 2: They're doing all this kind of thing. Oh, we also 480 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:40,960 Speaker 2: see this is where we learn like This is the 481 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:43,520 Speaker 2: episode where we see Harrison and Odd non sleeve like 482 00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:47,119 Speaker 2: getting out of bed. Is Nazanine BONIOTTI kidding with how 483 00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:48,080 Speaker 2: pretty she is? 484 00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:50,320 Speaker 1: Is she freaking gorgeous or what? 485 00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:51,159 Speaker 4: Dude? 486 00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:57,240 Speaker 1: My god, she's so hot. Listen, I'm wild gay as 487 00:23:57,359 --> 00:24:03,040 Speaker 1: the day is long, but that lady is gorgeous. 488 00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:04,560 Speaker 2: Oh my goodness. 489 00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:09,280 Speaker 1: And Katie, the chemistry between her and Columbus short, I 490 00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:12,679 Speaker 1: don't know what it is, but listen, those two connected 491 00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:17,040 Speaker 1: on a level that was beyond just acting like it was. 492 00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:20,200 Speaker 1: It was. That chemistry was real good. Yeah, it was 493 00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:23,520 Speaker 1: almost as good as Quinn. Almost almost. 494 00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:25,520 Speaker 2: We'll give them a B plus. 495 00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:26,800 Speaker 1: Yes, correct. 496 00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:30,840 Speaker 2: Oh you kept kept giving live coffee in this episode. 497 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:31,840 Speaker 2: You were so pathetic. 498 00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:35,920 Speaker 1: I know, he was so pathetic, Like what the fuck, Huck? 499 00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:40,080 Speaker 1: What is going on? He was going through it. 500 00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:42,760 Speaker 2: I think, why and explain why you keep doing this 501 00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:45,040 Speaker 2: which I thought you killed yet. Were you happy with 502 00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:48,040 Speaker 2: your ending scene or were you like wah wah. 503 00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:50,240 Speaker 1: Listen, I was a little bit on want whah. You 504 00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:52,600 Speaker 1: know that that was actually that was one of the 505 00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:54,720 Speaker 1: scenes that I was like, freak. I wish I would 506 00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:56,800 Speaker 1: have done it again because I would have done as 507 00:24:56,840 --> 00:24:58,080 Speaker 1: I was watching, and I was like, I would have 508 00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:01,399 Speaker 1: done something different, but I was still happy with it. 509 00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:05,080 Speaker 2: Honey, I got tons of those. I got tens of 510 00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:06,200 Speaker 2: hundreds of those. 511 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:10,800 Speaker 1: So he keeps bringing Olivia a cup of coffee because. 512 00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:12,280 Speaker 2: He looks like a shitty cup of coffee. 513 00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:13,960 Speaker 1: It looks like a shitty cup of coffee. I want, 514 00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:17,440 Speaker 1: what does she drink? I feel like Alicia doesn't doesn't 515 00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:19,200 Speaker 1: drink coffee. I feel like she drinks tea? 516 00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:20,760 Speaker 2: Right, does she doesn't? 517 00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:23,480 Speaker 1: Feel Yeah, I feel like she's a tea. Maybe that's 518 00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:26,720 Speaker 1: why she kept giving him that look like homeboy, why 519 00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:30,000 Speaker 1: you keep bringing me this latte from freaking the corner 520 00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:34,200 Speaker 1: coffee shot? I'm going to drink this. Yeah, I wish 521 00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:36,240 Speaker 1: there was a shot of all the cups of coffee 522 00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:38,439 Speaker 1: that he gave her, like lined up like somewhere in 523 00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:39,800 Speaker 1: her in her office. 524 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:42,640 Speaker 2: But I think he's doing that. 525 00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:45,560 Speaker 1: It's it's like a it's like a way for him 526 00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:50,159 Speaker 1: to apologize and say or I think he explains and 527 00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:52,680 Speaker 1: he says that this is what you do when you 528 00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:54,920 Speaker 1: want to say sorry to someone right, or to someone 529 00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:57,639 Speaker 1: that you love, or something like that, because doesn't he 530 00:25:57,680 --> 00:25:59,920 Speaker 1: want to apologize for what he did to Coin. 531 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:03,560 Speaker 2: He's bringing your coffee to say I'm really sorry about Quinn. Yes, 532 00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:05,760 Speaker 2: and she says, I'm mad at you. You went too 533 00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:10,320 Speaker 2: far with Quinn. And he says, no, you went too far. 534 00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:13,560 Speaker 2: You went too far. You gave her to me, you 535 00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:16,480 Speaker 2: put her under my wing, you made me do all 536 00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:20,320 Speaker 2: this shit and like her, Yes, essentially losing her mind 537 00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:22,240 Speaker 2: and leaving Opa and being part of the six thirteen 538 00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:22,960 Speaker 2: is all on. 539 00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:25,840 Speaker 1: You, exactly. Yeah. And and also, just to explain to 540 00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:30,399 Speaker 1: the listeners, before this is when we see Huck and 541 00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:33,119 Speaker 1: and and Quinn and he has her all taped up, 542 00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:35,080 Speaker 1: and he and with the pliers and he's you know, 543 00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:37,720 Speaker 1: he pulls her mole a out and and he licks 544 00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:40,840 Speaker 1: her face. All of that happens before this, and that's 545 00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:43,639 Speaker 1: why Olivia is like, you went too far. You did No, 546 00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:45,280 Speaker 1: you did no, you did? 547 00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:46,080 Speaker 4: You did? 548 00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:46,680 Speaker 3: You did. 549 00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:50,439 Speaker 2: My favorite part is I Love and Scandal when the 550 00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:54,120 Speaker 2: title comes up in the episode in some creative way, 551 00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:55,960 Speaker 2: and so it says we do not this is called 552 00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:59,080 Speaker 2: we do not touch the First Ladies or whatever. Yes, 553 00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:04,720 Speaker 2: And there's an amazing scene where Melly is standing in 554 00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:06,879 Speaker 2: the room in the White House where there's all the 555 00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:09,360 Speaker 2: portraits of the first Ladies before her, and they're looking 556 00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:12,199 Speaker 2: at Jackie. Oh, and it's so like sixties and it 557 00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:14,600 Speaker 2: looks so cool and things are painted so differently, and 558 00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:17,960 Speaker 2: she's looking at all of them. And Andrew sexy sexy 559 00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:23,720 Speaker 2: John Tenny comes in and they're flirting mcflirterson's and then yes, 560 00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:27,440 Speaker 2: you know, he goes to like touch the painting or something, 561 00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:30,640 Speaker 2: and she's like, ah, like, we don't touch the first ladies. 562 00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:33,360 Speaker 2: But you realize they're really talking about, like we don't 563 00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:35,800 Speaker 2: touch her body, not like things. 564 00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:39,280 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yes, but also I love when Mellie leaves 565 00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:43,159 Speaker 1: the scene and then Andrew goes and like like touches 566 00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:43,800 Speaker 1: the painting. 567 00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:45,119 Speaker 2: Have you ever done that before? 568 00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:47,720 Speaker 1: Oh, if somebody tells me not to do something and 569 00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:51,639 Speaker 1: they're like, don't touch that, my only thought after somebody 570 00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:53,439 Speaker 1: tells me not to do something is I have to 571 00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:55,600 Speaker 1: do this. I know I have to do it. 572 00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:57,639 Speaker 2: I feel like when I was little, I did this, 573 00:27:57,680 --> 00:27:59,919 Speaker 2: which is not okay, but I feel like I've definitely 574 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:03,000 Speaker 2: in like art museums before and like have done a 575 00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:06,440 Speaker 2: sort of Andrew moment where I like tapped a corner 576 00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:09,200 Speaker 2: of like some art installation that you weren't allowed touch. 577 00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:12,840 Speaker 2: Oh one hundred percent. I always have thoughts of if 578 00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:15,840 Speaker 2: I'm at Niagara Falls jumping off, or if I'm in 579 00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:19,120 Speaker 2: front of a huge famous painting like the Mona Lisa, 580 00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:20,960 Speaker 2: or We've been to DC and we looked at the 581 00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:23,520 Speaker 2: Portrait Gallery and I've seen all these first Lady paintings 582 00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:26,000 Speaker 2: and just like running at them with an axe, like 583 00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:26,720 Speaker 2: those are the two. 584 00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:32,080 Speaker 1: You are insane. You are insane. But listen, I've had 585 00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:34,520 Speaker 1: those thoughts too. Sometimes. Do you ever feel like people 586 00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:36,120 Speaker 1: are gonna be like these two motherfuckers are crazy? 587 00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:38,400 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I think they already think that we're okay. 588 00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:40,440 Speaker 1: I think they think that already they know that I'll 589 00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:43,080 Speaker 1: be waiting to cross the street and a huge truck. 590 00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:45,320 Speaker 1: I'll see a huge truck on its way across in 591 00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:47,120 Speaker 1: front of me, and I'm like, what if I jumped 592 00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:47,800 Speaker 1: in front of the truck? 593 00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:48,560 Speaker 2: Oh hundred percent. 594 00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:50,200 Speaker 1: And it's not like I want to kill myself. I'm 595 00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:52,080 Speaker 1: just like, what if I Just you. 596 00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:53,920 Speaker 2: Just like play it out in your brain like it's 597 00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:56,560 Speaker 2: just there's I'm an intersection right by my house that's 598 00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:59,440 Speaker 2: like pretty intense, and I'm always like, what if I, 599 00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:02,800 Speaker 2: like miss judge like I made this left and I 600 00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:06,959 Speaker 2: get completely like clipped by an eighteen wheeler or whatever. Like, 601 00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:09,840 Speaker 2: you know, I think it's very normal. I think it's 602 00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:12,320 Speaker 2: very and I think everybody thinks these things. They just 603 00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:14,520 Speaker 2: don't talk about it, and we do because we're nuts. 604 00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:18,520 Speaker 1: Exactly exactly. Another scene, Katie that I loved was the 605 00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:21,040 Speaker 1: scene Hollis Doyle is in this episode and there's a 606 00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:24,320 Speaker 1: scene where he goes to meet with Leo Bergen and 607 00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:29,520 Speaker 1: Sally Langston and he's like, they're gonna work together, right, 608 00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:32,440 Speaker 1: and he's like, I want secretary of What is it 609 00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:35,040 Speaker 1: that he wants? Oh? Well, energy? 610 00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:38,240 Speaker 2: He wants secretary of energy because Hollis Doyle is an 611 00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:40,880 Speaker 2: oil tycoon. Tycoon? 612 00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:43,880 Speaker 1: Is that yeah, I think that's the word. It sure is. 613 00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:48,560 Speaker 1: But I love the dynamics between those three. It's so 614 00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:51,280 Speaker 1: funny and and just the lines. I think. Hollis Doyle 615 00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:54,760 Speaker 1: at one point says, listen, all our britches are moist, 616 00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:57,840 Speaker 1: so let's just get to the point. He's so freaking 617 00:29:57,920 --> 00:29:59,160 Speaker 1: from what a pig. 618 00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:02,280 Speaker 2: In this episode, he's doing such a good job because 619 00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:05,040 Speaker 2: he's playing both camps. He's essentially going over to the fits, 620 00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:08,520 Speaker 2: you know, ticket and being like, you give me, you know, 621 00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:10,920 Speaker 2: Secretary of Energy, and I'm going to write you a 622 00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:14,160 Speaker 2: check like no one's ever seen before. And then they 623 00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:16,400 Speaker 2: invite him to the big fancy dinner and then he 624 00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:19,280 Speaker 2: but before that he was in Sally Langston's camp with 625 00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:21,440 Speaker 2: Leo Bergen saying like, I'm gonna write you all a 626 00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:23,400 Speaker 2: big fat check as long as you give me secretary. 627 00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:29,400 Speaker 2: But he's playing a dirty, dirty, dirty politician. We also 628 00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:33,240 Speaker 2: learned in this episode that Tom is B six thirteen 629 00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:37,800 Speaker 2: because he I mean, he hands Jake. It's so crazy, 630 00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:40,360 Speaker 2: but he comes and now that Jake has had a command, 631 00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:44,200 Speaker 2: he comes and he hands Jake of like the footage 632 00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:47,440 Speaker 2: from the day of what was shot and recorded in 633 00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:50,040 Speaker 2: the Oval office, which fits in Olivia have absolutely no 634 00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:53,040 Speaker 2: idea that they're under surveillance like that, and Tom is 635 00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:55,800 Speaker 2: just like, oh yeah, I'll be delivering these nightly. It's like, 636 00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:56,320 Speaker 2: oh my. 637 00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:59,320 Speaker 1: God, yes, yes. And there's a previous scene like like 638 00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:03,440 Speaker 1: a sort of montage with Rowan explaining to Jake that 639 00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:06,720 Speaker 1: he's gonna that someone in the White House is part 640 00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:09,280 Speaker 1: of B six thirteen and they're going to reveal themselves. 641 00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:11,960 Speaker 1: It's really exciting and then you're like, who the hell 642 00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:13,600 Speaker 1: is it? And then it's freaking Tom. 643 00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:16,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's very and then Tom gives Jake I love 644 00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:18,960 Speaker 2: this spin. At the end of the episode, Tom gives 645 00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:22,000 Speaker 2: Jake the tape and Jake plays it and fits. He 646 00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:25,720 Speaker 2: hears Fitz say to Olivia do you have feelings for Jake? 647 00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:28,480 Speaker 2: And we're like waiting on baited breast. I don't know 648 00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:29,680 Speaker 2: if she's gonna say no. I don't know if she's 649 00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:31,960 Speaker 2: going to say yes, and she says I don't know. 650 00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:35,720 Speaker 1: Uh, which he loves. Jake loves that. I think he 651 00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:38,000 Speaker 1: put he you know, he throws his head back, like, 652 00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:41,360 Speaker 1: oh man, this is this is getting this is deeper 653 00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:44,160 Speaker 1: or getting more complicated than I thought. I think Jake 654 00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:46,720 Speaker 1: probably thought that she was going to say no to Fit, 655 00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:49,800 Speaker 1: but she didn't. She said I don't know. And I 656 00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:52,600 Speaker 1: think that maybe opened up Jake's heart a little bit too, 657 00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:54,960 Speaker 1: because he's like, oh wait, like she might has She 658 00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:57,440 Speaker 1: kind of feels like she might have feelings for me sure, 659 00:31:57,520 --> 00:31:58,360 Speaker 1: which is super cool. 660 00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:01,440 Speaker 2: Were there any like fashion moment I didn't write anything. 661 00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:07,360 Speaker 1: I not that really that stuck out? Nozanin all of 662 00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:11,440 Speaker 1: Nazanine's clothes in this episode were amazing, And she wears 663 00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:14,720 Speaker 1: like a like like a really sexy Neglige in one 664 00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:17,080 Speaker 1: scene where she opens up the briefcase full of cash 665 00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:20,040 Speaker 1: to give to Harrison because she got a beautiful girl. 666 00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:24,360 Speaker 2: Second, who wears ship like that on this show? Whenever 667 00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:28,320 Speaker 2: anyone is wearing some sexy satin nightgown thing, I'm like, 668 00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:35,080 Speaker 2: this is television, guys. Yes, I never wear neglig You. 669 00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:38,760 Speaker 1: I feel like you'll throw on like a huge oversized 670 00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:39,720 Speaker 1: T shirt. 671 00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:44,040 Speaker 2: Of what I sleep in when we When this episode airs, 672 00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:49,880 Speaker 2: she is a matching pajama set with long sleeve, long 673 00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:52,960 Speaker 2: pant and I wear socks and. 674 00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:56,200 Speaker 1: Socks, big old fuzzy socks, big. 675 00:32:56,080 --> 00:33:01,200 Speaker 2: Old fuzzy and I am so sexy you wouldn't believe. Wait, okay, 676 00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:04,520 Speaker 2: so we don't really care about clothes. But also, oh, oh, 677 00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:07,840 Speaker 2: I know one. I thought Quinn did an okay acting 678 00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:08,920 Speaker 2: job in this episode. 679 00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:11,800 Speaker 1: I have great in this scene. Oh yes, I think 680 00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:13,640 Speaker 1: I know what you're going to talk about, Quinn. 681 00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:20,280 Speaker 2: I mean Olivia catches Quinn uh spying on command and 682 00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:21,800 Speaker 2: command on Joe. 683 00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:24,680 Speaker 1: Morton and she have a car and. 684 00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:28,360 Speaker 2: Olivia says, B six thirteen is not where you belong 685 00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:31,680 Speaker 2: Quinn and I say he licked my face? Did he 686 00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:35,320 Speaker 2: tell you that he licked my face? And then she 687 00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:36,760 Speaker 2: says I can help you. I can help you. When 688 00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:40,200 Speaker 2: I say I'm helping myself, get out or I'll shoot you. 689 00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:47,200 Speaker 1: Katie, I thought you're you're you're the intensity in the scene. 690 00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:52,080 Speaker 1: Like you held it. You kept it real, real quiet 691 00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:55,400 Speaker 1: and real sort of internal because you could have you 692 00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:57,480 Speaker 1: could have taken that to a place of like get 693 00:33:57,520 --> 00:33:59,240 Speaker 1: out of my car, I'm gonna but you kept get 694 00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:05,880 Speaker 1: real internal of like good. I like it. I loved it, 695 00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:10,280 Speaker 1: and you're holding that gun. 696 00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:12,480 Speaker 2: And I choose that is because then when she leaves 697 00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:14,440 Speaker 2: and she's not watching her anymore, then Quinn kind of 698 00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:17,919 Speaker 2: breaks down. Yes, and I think she's trying to show 699 00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:19,160 Speaker 2: live how tough she is. 700 00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:21,279 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I'm going back in. 701 00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:23,480 Speaker 2: My head and I hope that was why I made 702 00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:25,279 Speaker 2: that choice, But who the fuck knows. 703 00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:27,920 Speaker 1: I listen, I thought it was a great choice. I 704 00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:31,360 Speaker 1: thought it was really real and really good and powerful. 705 00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:31,960 Speaker 2: Okay. 706 00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:34,319 Speaker 1: And and the fact that Quinn is pulling a gun 707 00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:36,200 Speaker 1: on Olivia, I know, like that's crazy. 708 00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:38,560 Speaker 2: Twitter was a firestorm of hatreds. 709 00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:41,600 Speaker 1: Yes, they hated you. I'm sure after this episode, I'm 710 00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:42,680 Speaker 1: sure we'll be right back. 711 00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:51,719 Speaker 2: Guys, what else do we have? Who won? Did anyone win? 712 00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:53,920 Speaker 2: The acting? I mean I think Olivia and Fits at 713 00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:55,720 Speaker 2: the beginning were unbelievable. 714 00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:57,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, they were great. 715 00:34:57,360 --> 00:34:59,640 Speaker 2: Was any horror? Are there any six degrees of g? 716 00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:01,160 Speaker 1: There is not. 717 00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:02,440 Speaker 2: I don't believe it. 718 00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:05,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, John Tenny, John Tenny was actually in a movie 719 00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:08,120 Speaker 1: what was like a horror slash thriller. It was a 720 00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:10,960 Speaker 1: movie called The Stepfather. It's a remake of I mean, 721 00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:15,160 Speaker 1: they've made The Stepfather a few times, but he was 722 00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:17,960 Speaker 1: in the two thousand and nine version where uh uh 723 00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:22,000 Speaker 1: with Penn Badgley and he plays Penn Badly's dad, and 724 00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:24,600 Speaker 1: it's it's the movie called The Stepfather. It's a really 725 00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:31,200 Speaker 1: great It's a guy that sort of changes his identity 726 00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:34,560 Speaker 1: and then will you know, befriend a woman and then 727 00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:37,399 Speaker 1: court her and fall in you know, fake fall in love, 728 00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:40,400 Speaker 1: and then marry her, and then he'll murder her and 729 00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:43,000 Speaker 1: like the whole family and then move on to the 730 00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:43,800 Speaker 1: next family. 731 00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:45,319 Speaker 2: Why has he got to be doing that? 732 00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:46,400 Speaker 1: Why you gotta be doing that? 733 00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:48,880 Speaker 2: Got to be literally murdering her whole family? 734 00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:52,360 Speaker 1: Yep. Sometimes it's just the wife, but other other times 735 00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:54,600 Speaker 1: he tries to murder or murder whoever gets in the way. 736 00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:57,200 Speaker 1: But Dylan Walsh is also in this. In this version 737 00:35:57,239 --> 00:36:00,359 Speaker 1: with John Tenny, you see the stepfather, I have seen it. Yeah, 738 00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:00,640 Speaker 1: it's real. 739 00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:01,680 Speaker 2: Tenny good in it. 740 00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:04,279 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he's great. He sort of plays a stray guy, 741 00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:06,880 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, he's not the crazy stepfather, 742 00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:09,160 Speaker 1: he's the he's the real dad. That's kind of like, 743 00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:10,359 Speaker 1: who is this guy that. 744 00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:14,320 Speaker 2: Tenny always plays super stable dudes? 745 00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:17,600 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yes, he's real stable. 746 00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:21,720 Speaker 2: That guy he is, but he's good. Fun facts. Olivia 747 00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:26,040 Speaker 2: threatens to revoke Vanessa Chandler's press credentials if she publishes 748 00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:29,239 Speaker 2: a story harmful to Grant. Yet White House staff explicitly 749 00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:33,120 Speaker 2: do not have the authority to revoke credentials without legitimate cause. Yes, 750 00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:36,319 Speaker 2: this is bullshit. If Olivia tried this play, Chandler would 751 00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:41,080 Speaker 2: have excellent chances at a very public lawsuit whoo doodles. 752 00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:46,080 Speaker 1: But also I feel like Olivia. Also, I feel like 753 00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:48,759 Speaker 1: Olivia is just like, you know, I'm gonna revoke that shit. 754 00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:51,800 Speaker 1: Like she's she's sort of, you know, lightly threatening. I 755 00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:53,640 Speaker 1: don't think she really feels like she would have done it. 756 00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:57,760 Speaker 2: I also felt like Carrie's I thought interacting of that moment. 757 00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:00,799 Speaker 2: I was like, I think she's even bullshitting, like yes, 758 00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:04,040 Speaker 2: oh yeah, like she that she was making it up, 759 00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:06,520 Speaker 2: like it's I agree, she's out of control and she's 760 00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:08,480 Speaker 2: just pulling its straws, and it's. 761 00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:11,319 Speaker 1: Like, I agree, I agree, I agree. We should also 762 00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:14,360 Speaker 1: mention really quickly Katie that this is there's some stuff 763 00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:17,960 Speaker 1: with U, with James and Cyrus and Rosen, like the 764 00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:21,239 Speaker 1: whole Publius. James is really scared that he's going to 765 00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:24,279 Speaker 1: get outed as Publius, right because Carlos Steele is going 766 00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:26,239 Speaker 1: to do this one more times. 767 00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:30,200 Speaker 2: I think Publius is one of the worst off names 768 00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:34,520 Speaker 2: that scandals come up with, awful off Oh whoever in 769 00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:39,640 Speaker 2: the writer's room came up with Publius? No, No, that's 770 00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:39,920 Speaker 2: a no. 771 00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:42,719 Speaker 1: That's a big that is such a hard no. 772 00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:47,960 Speaker 2: Like why, I mean, we had Remington, we had what 773 00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:51,120 Speaker 2: else did we have? Oh, thorn Gate? 774 00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:52,120 Speaker 1: Thorn Gate? 775 00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:56,320 Speaker 2: Great, We've had obviously be six thirteen, We've had QR 776 00:37:56,360 --> 00:38:01,400 Speaker 2: facial recognition software, we have like some good stuff, but Publius. 777 00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:03,760 Speaker 1: Is not the hell. But there's a scene where Charlie 778 00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:06,360 Speaker 1: makes fun of the name Publius in this episode, and 779 00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:09,719 Speaker 1: I thought that I don't remember what he said it. 780 00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:11,719 Speaker 2: Let me help, let me tell my note. 781 00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:14,400 Speaker 1: You know why this stupid name? Who came up with 782 00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:15,399 Speaker 1: this Publius name? 783 00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:24,960 Speaker 2: It's bad? Okay? What are what are people thinking about 784 00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:28,800 Speaker 2: this episode? Let's consult our scandless sweeps of the time. 785 00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:32,960 Speaker 2: What the people to say about it? At c A. 786 00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:36,280 Speaker 2: Karen on March seventh, twenty fourteen, tweeted, hold the phone. 787 00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:38,560 Speaker 2: Does that mean Tom was giving Row in the Oval 788 00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:44,560 Speaker 2: Office footage all along? I never thought of that. He 789 00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:47,120 Speaker 2: goes down on Live in the Oval Office? 790 00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:51,440 Speaker 1: He does, but the desk, oh shit is that before 791 00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:55,160 Speaker 1: they discovered that that spot by the curtain is off camera? 792 00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:57,560 Speaker 1: Remember how they discovered that? 793 00:38:57,719 --> 00:38:59,759 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, he did. They dismember that. 794 00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:00,479 Speaker 3: Tom. 795 00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:03,160 Speaker 2: It's like running next to me, He's like, just so 796 00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:05,319 Speaker 2: you know, like now that you're president, like we can 797 00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:08,880 Speaker 2: see stuffy Like, wow, good to know. 798 00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:15,000 Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna okay, let's hear Alexa at its 799 00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:19,840 Speaker 1: Alexa Renee tweeted, Also, I just caught when Jake dissed 800 00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:23,680 Speaker 1: wine and popcorn as dinner. Whoa dude? You crossed the 801 00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:27,600 Speaker 1: line that one hurt me. Hashtag scandal rewatch as scandal. 802 00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:31,239 Speaker 2: I still do wine and popcorn for dinner sometimes. 803 00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:32,960 Speaker 1: And it really I love popcorn is dinner. 804 00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:39,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll doner at NCL Palermo tweeted, I like how 805 00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:42,719 Speaker 2: everyone on hashtag scandal either yells or whispers. Life would 806 00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:44,440 Speaker 2: be more fun and dramatic if we all did that 807 00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:45,759 Speaker 2: on a regular basis. 808 00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:48,880 Speaker 1: This is a good one, Katie, this is You're gonna 809 00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:52,080 Speaker 1: love this one. Yea and dot A s Layton. That's 810 00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:53,719 Speaker 1: a lot of that's a lot of letters, girl, you 811 00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:58,360 Speaker 1: need to abbreviate that at Anna Eastleigh tweeted, oh my god, 812 00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:01,399 Speaker 1: I hate Quinn so much. When is Shonda Rhyme's gonna 813 00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:03,520 Speaker 1: kill her off hashtag scant. 814 00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:06,800 Speaker 2: We'll have to ask Shonda whenever she comes back again, 815 00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:10,040 Speaker 2: like how many complaints did she get about Quinn? And 816 00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:12,959 Speaker 2: why didn't she kill her? And thank you so much for. 817 00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:15,320 Speaker 1: Not you know what, Anna, I don't like that tweet. 818 00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:16,440 Speaker 1: I don't like it one bit. 819 00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:20,760 Speaker 2: I like it, Anna, You're entitled to your opinion, okay. 820 00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:24,400 Speaker 2: At Ohso brand New tweeted, who runs B six thirteen? 821 00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:27,680 Speaker 2: Olivia Pope? Who runs the US. Olivia Pope, who runs 822 00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:30,160 Speaker 2: the world, Olivia Pope hashtag scandal. 823 00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:35,239 Speaker 1: Oh dip, Now do it with the Destiny's Child like 824 00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:36,960 Speaker 1: the Olivia Pope. 825 00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:40,480 Speaker 2: Pope woo run the world Olivia Poope. 826 00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:44,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, there you go. Let's see Stephen at typing underscore chimp. 827 00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:49,440 Speaker 1: Oh that's an interesting handle typing underscore chimp. He tweeted. 828 00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:54,160 Speaker 1: The head of an Assassin agency uses a Windows eight tablet. Yeah, 829 00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:55,200 Speaker 1: and nip. 830 00:40:55,800 --> 00:41:01,960 Speaker 2: That because they were sponsoring the show, right right, right right, Like, 831 00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:04,399 Speaker 2: didn't I think on our show, like we all had 832 00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:06,240 Speaker 2: sam Sung phones. 833 00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:07,919 Speaker 1: As the tablets. 834 00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:11,000 Speaker 2: We weren't allowed to use iPhones or anything in the 835 00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:15,560 Speaker 2: Macintosh Apple Arena because we were a sam Sung That 836 00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:19,560 Speaker 2: was one of our sponsors behind at look at Dustin 837 00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:22,120 Speaker 2: tweeted soon as Mellie made that comment about keeping her 838 00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:24,279 Speaker 2: knees together, my hands would have begun to fly. 839 00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:27,040 Speaker 1: Don't touch the first ladies. 840 00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:31,640 Speaker 2: Our amazing line. Producer Mary Howard tweeted at Mary eats 841 00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:36,080 Speaker 2: at this night toilet tweet hashtag scandal scouting Ace Hotel, 842 00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:38,800 Speaker 2: Downtown LA and it's a shot of all the toilets. 843 00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:40,880 Speaker 2: I didn't shoot a scene in the ace hotel toilets. 844 00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:44,480 Speaker 1: Did you I don't think I did either. Who was 845 00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:46,320 Speaker 1: the lucky person lucky? 846 00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:50,160 Speaker 2: Who was the lucky lucky dog? Up? And the last 847 00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:54,400 Speaker 2: tweet at Carrie Washington, replying to at Josh Malina. At 848 00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:58,440 Speaker 2: Josh Malina wrote junk in the trunk hashtag scandal, and 849 00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:01,879 Speaker 2: Carrie wrote great behind this scene shot love that And 850 00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:06,200 Speaker 2: this is a pick because David Rosen is kidnapped in 851 00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:07,840 Speaker 2: this episode and thrown in the back of a trunk. 852 00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:10,560 Speaker 2: So he posted a picture of himself and the awesome 853 00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:12,640 Speaker 2: camera setup that's in the trunk with him. But what 854 00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:14,840 Speaker 2: we realize is that he makes a call in the 855 00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:16,920 Speaker 2: trunk and he's like, Abby, I'm in a trunk. I've 856 00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:20,760 Speaker 2: been kidnapped, kidnapped, kidnapped. It great, Katie, I've been kidnapped. 857 00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:23,720 Speaker 2: I love you so much and if I was happy yesterday. 858 00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:25,000 Speaker 2: I don't know what's gonna happen, but I want you 859 00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:27,560 Speaker 2: to know that I love you. And then the trunk 860 00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:28,320 Speaker 2: opens up. 861 00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:32,000 Speaker 1: Abby and you and y yes, and Abby's like you 862 00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:34,960 Speaker 1: better love me because I just saved your ass. I 863 00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:35,680 Speaker 1: love that scene. 864 00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:41,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, so cute. Next up, we've got episode three thirteen, 865 00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:45,440 Speaker 2: No Sun on the Horizon. 866 00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:47,560 Speaker 1: NOE all clouds, and I think we have. 867 00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:50,920 Speaker 2: A very fancy, wonderful guess. 868 00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:52,960 Speaker 1: Mmmmm, stay tuned. 869 00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:56,280 Speaker 2: I know we are we talking in these voices because 870 00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:58,359 Speaker 2: this is a sexy, sexy episode. 871 00:42:58,400 --> 00:42:59,920 Speaker 1: Is check this check this out? 872 00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:03,040 Speaker 2: Sexy Okay, check this one out? 873 00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:07,120 Speaker 1: Love it? I love it too. 874 00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:09,960 Speaker 2: We love you gladiators. 875 00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:12,400 Speaker 1: Thank you guys for listening in for the next one 876 00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:18,440 Speaker 1: Lia soon, Bite Bite, Thank you guys for joining us 877 00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:22,480 Speaker 1: on Unpacking the Toolbox. If you enjoyed the show, please subscribe, 878 00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:25,280 Speaker 1: share with your friends, rate, or leave us a review. 879 00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:28,920 Speaker 2: Unpacking the Toolbox was executive produced by Sandy Bailey, Alex Alcea, 880 00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:33,520 Speaker 2: Lauren Homan, Tyler Klang, and Gabrielle Collins. 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