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Speaker 3: Much of the last couple of days?

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Speaker 1: Very good. I see Deebro and I have had children already,

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Speaker 1: And we're gonna start here on the defensive side, because

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Speaker 3: Absolutely he will, and I think just adding him to uh,

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Speaker 2: Well, when I think or when I look at the

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Speaker 2: Look at the athleticism that he has to bring to

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Speaker 1: That's a good shout out at Erickson.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, agreed on all funds. And again we I've targeted

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Speaker 2: He's another player looked at the odds that was strongly considering.

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Speaker 2: Although I do prefer styles just a little bit more,

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Speaker 2: I think that Caleb Downs what he projects to do

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Speaker 2: in this Dallas Cowboys defense with the new DC coming

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Speaker 2: of like a glove fit with him and a Cooper

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Speaker 2: You have Bland and Chavon Ravel as the perimeter corners

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Speaker 2: for the Dallas Cowboys. I think Dallas done a pretty

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Speaker 2: obviously training away Micah Parkson's losing that type of impact player,

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Speaker 2: Jean was fourth and def it's the Rookie of the

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Speaker 2: think by another cornerback on that team, QUINNYA. Mitchell, who

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Speaker 2: got more votes for Defensive Rookie the year that particular season.

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Speaker 2: So although I thought it was close, and I think

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Speaker 2: that Dallas usually just gets more eyeballs on them as

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Speaker 2: I think when you're looking at who wins this award,

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Speaker 2: it's a linebacker that gets a ton of tackles, usually

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Speaker 1: Was very very high up.

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Speaker 2: Look at last year right who won Carson Sweeshizer because

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Speaker 2: he had a ton of tackles, wore the green dot

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Speaker 2: called the plays. I think Sonny Stallis profiles that a

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Speaker 2: little bit more than Caleb Downs does in year one up,

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Speaker 2: So he can't be an impact player and he's gonna

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Speaker 2: get a lot of credit for the turnaround for the

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Speaker 2: Dallas Cowboys secondary. But yeah, it's going to put Dallas

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Speaker 1: Deep Brol in the NFC Power Ranking Show, we had

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Speaker 1: a conversation about this division, right, and the Eagles the

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Speaker 1: get that defense right, there's absolutely a reason to believe

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think the Cowboys should be looked at as

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Speaker 3: the favorite to take the East.

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Speaker 1: Oh but that could be controversial.

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Speaker 3: But like we're talking about a team that is a

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Speaker 3: like how Dallas's season last year unfolded. I mean we

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Speaker 3: talked about this said nauseum, guys, like going into the year,

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Speaker 3: where it was all offense, no defense, and you add

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Speaker 3: they've had on the defense. Dallas gave up the fourth

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Speaker 3: most touchdowns and the second highest passer rating to the

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Speaker 3: like full time nickel? Probably, but they could also move

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Speaker 3: him around like they have Jalen Thompson and Lee Cooker

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Speaker 3: as well with safety. Caleb Downs could be a chess

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Speaker 3: also going to improve the run defense, which how many

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Speaker 3: They can't stop the run. They can't stop the run.

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Speaker 3: They've made a ton of improvements and Caleb Downs is

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Speaker 3: one of those to hopefully this year not only shore

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Speaker 1: To cover the slot, but to stop the freaking run. Yes,

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Speaker 1: we'd like to see that. As a Cowboys fans would

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Speaker 1: love to see that as well. We got one more

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Speaker 1: promise you everybody, we will get to some offensive names

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Speaker 1: We knew this year was going to be about trying

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Speaker 1: You gotta be kind of ruthless when it comes to

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Speaker 1: with Mansor Delaine, a player that I know you and

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Speaker 1: I really liked quite a bit going into this process.

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Speaker 1: We thought this was a terrific pick by the Chiefs,

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Speaker 1: and there were gaps. We know this in the Kansasity secondary.

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Speaker 1: He had a great college career and it feels like

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Speaker 1: this is a very integral part of this new version

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Speaker 1: and this is kind of just the beginning of this process.

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Speaker 3: I absolutely agree, Joe. And when we've seen Spags at

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Speaker 3: the ability to take away the top option manser Dalank

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Speaker 3: can do that for them, Like last year in man

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Speaker 1: This year, they.

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Speaker 3: Delane could walk in from day one, and especially in

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Speaker 3: it could play. It could absolutely pay dividends for Kansas

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Speaker 1: And Chris Jones is another year older, right, carloftis like,

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Speaker 1: you want to get these guys after the quarterback, right,

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Speaker 1: got to start checking down. They got to start making

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Speaker 1: that is another like that trickle down effect that when

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Speaker 1: Chris Jones all world, but another year older, another full

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Speaker 1: like to see them draft another edge rusher next year potentially.

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Speaker 1: We'll see how that goes. But do you see that

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Because I was looking at some of these long

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Speaker 2: So I'm not ready to just drop Mancer Delaine in

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Speaker 2: better team with Mansor Delaine and not Trent McDuffie. Now

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Speaker 2: You're not just playing for the other twenty six in

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Speaker 2: that secondary, starting safdy Brian Cook is gone. They lost

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Speaker 1: All right, let's talk about Jeremiah Love, because it does

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Speaker 1: feel when you use that kind of draft capital on

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Speaker 1: a running back that it's gonna be a big impact thing.

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Speaker 1: My thing is, there's that little voice inside my head

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Speaker 1: that's like, hey, don't you remember every rookie running back

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Speaker 1: to Manta. How good they are every couple of years,

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Speaker 1: we get the same problem with the first couple of weeks.

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Speaker 1: Is kind of flackluster right now. Eventually they do make it. Eventually.

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Speaker 1: We saw Jamier Gibbs making big impact. Eventually be John Robinson.

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Speaker 1: Could the Jeremiah Love situation be different. It doesn't feel

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Speaker 1: like it will be right away because there's so many

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Speaker 1: bodies there. But Andrew, you and I both no that

463
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Speaker 1: trades can happen, injuries can happen. The next thing you know,

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Speaker 1: Jeremiah Love could be the only running back in that backfield.

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Speaker 1: Hopefully he's the guy that stays healthy in trading camp,

466
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Speaker 1: but we've seen crazy things happen here. Jeremiah loves talent

467
00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:15,479
Speaker 1: is off the chain. There's no reason for this new

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Speaker 1: regime not to come in and use him right away.

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Speaker 1: If that's the guy that they wanted, that's what they targeted.

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Speaker 1: How impactful can he be right away for this Cardinals offense?

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Speaker 2: It's a really loaded question. How impactful it's knocking off

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Speaker 2: the win games? So if you mean in the win

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Speaker 2: loss column we talked about in our power rankings, who

474
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Speaker 2: is number last, number.

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Speaker 1: Last, Well, we don't do overall they were sixteen in

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Speaker 1: the NFC.

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Speaker 2: I mean so so Dolphins Cardinals. The Cardinals are going

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Speaker 2: to be favorites with Carson Beck Jacoby Brissett.

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Speaker 1: As I think the Dolphins are worse than the Dolphins

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Speaker 1: are trying to lose, so I think I think the

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Speaker 1: Dolphins are worse than co So let's say they are

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Speaker 1: thirty first. It's thirty first, no higher than thirtieth. I

483
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Speaker 1: think we're all agree on that number. Last.

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Speaker 2: So sure they're gonna give him a decent amount of

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Speaker 2: a lot of touches, and Tyler's year is going to

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Speaker 2: be annoying. I think the other thing too with him

487
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Speaker 2: is maybe he doesn't get a nash Gent level workload

488
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Speaker 2: because Gent had no competition in his backfield last year.

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Speaker 2: So I think that's a big difference. Like Tyler's year

490
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Speaker 2: is better than any other running back on the Raiders

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Speaker 2: not named Ashon Genty. Taylado's year was a thorn in

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Speaker 2: the side of v Jon Robinson, who is viewed as

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Speaker 2: one of the, if not the best running back in

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Speaker 2: the NFL. His head coach would constantly say that yeah's

495
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Speaker 2: the best running back in the NFL, and we're gonna

496
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Speaker 2: still give the ball to tail. That was Year who

497
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Speaker 2: has been very dependent as a running back sixth in

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Speaker 2: the NFL and rushing success rate eleventh in EPA per

499
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Speaker 2: rush since he entered the NFL. He's one of three

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Speaker 2: running backs with more than five hundred carries the last

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Speaker 2: four seasons who has not fumbled the ball once. Seems

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Speaker 2: like a guy that the coaches are gonna want to

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Speaker 2: put on the field.

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Speaker 3: And why we.

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Speaker 2: Give Jeremiah Love three hundred four inchred touches when he's

506
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Speaker 2: their highest He's the highest pig running back in the NFL.

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Speaker 2: He hasn't even taken a snap yet. Let's damage all

508
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Speaker 2: of him right now. Let's run him into the ground

509
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Speaker 2: and his rickingy contract when we're already paying all this money.

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Speaker 2: That doesn't make any sense. So I didn't like to pick.

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Speaker 2: Didn't make a lot of sense for me based on

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Speaker 2: the Cardinals timeline. And this is the issue that you're

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Speaker 2: running into with these teams that are, oh, well, we're

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Speaker 2: let's draft a running back. He's the best player on

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Speaker 2: our board. But is he the best player for the

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Speaker 2: Arizona Cardinals franchise to get out of mediocrity or the

517
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Speaker 2: bottom of the barrel? And I don't want to see

518
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Speaker 2: it that way. So I think when it comes to

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Speaker 2: Jeremiah Love, yeah, he's going to be relevant because he's

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Speaker 2: going to get a lot of snaps. He's going to

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Speaker 2: generate explosive plays, especially as a pass catcher. But for me,

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Speaker 2: when it comes to fantasy too, it's it's about the

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Speaker 2: it's four with him, it's not the ceiling with Jeremi Love.

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Speaker 2: This is not going to be his ceiling year. I

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Speaker 2: don't think that's a hot take saying that Jeremiah Love

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Speaker 2: is not going to have a monster twenty twenty six,

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Speaker 2: seventy eight percent of top twelve running backs finished top

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Speaker 2: twelve in year one when they're selected inside the top twelve,

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Speaker 2: So you feel good about that. But is he gonna

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Speaker 2: be a top five running back in year one? I

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Speaker 2: highly doubt that, just based on the situation that he's

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Speaker 2: in in Arizona with the quarterback play. Still have some

533
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Speaker 2: question marks on the offensive line. I think there's going

534
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Speaker 2: to be some type of split with Talliagier.

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Speaker 1: De bro I've been accused now on this show asking

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Speaker 1: mobile questions, So I'm gonna ask another loaded question to you.

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Speaker 1: Are you ready for it? Let's go. It is who

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Speaker 1: is more impactful this year at the running back position

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Speaker 1: for their team? Is it Jeremiah Love or is it

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Speaker 1: Jendarium Price? Oh loaded question.

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Speaker 3: In terms of wins and losses or their impact to

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Speaker 3: the offense.

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Speaker 1: How do you want to frame this? Let's say wins

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Speaker 1: and losses, because I mean this is the NFL. This

545
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Speaker 1: is what it's about about wins, wins and losses.

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Speaker 3: It's Jendarium Price, the the ability to raise the floor

547
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Speaker 3: and ceiling on their offense. I will still go with

548
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Speaker 3: Jeremiah Love though, and for everything that Like we're all

549
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Speaker 3: talking about Tyler How's Year and the Sins of Yesteryear,

550
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Speaker 3: like Bro Raheem Morris, Moyler.

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Speaker 1: This is like a romance novel. It's Gone and the

552
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Speaker 1: Sins of Yesteryear.

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Speaker 3: It's called the Arthur Smith Raheem Morris sequel.

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Speaker 1: It was like one of those young fantasy novels as I've.

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Speaker 3: But I think we go back, like we're putting a

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Speaker 3: lot of what Algier has done in Atlanta onto the

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Speaker 3: new landing spot in Arizona.

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Speaker 1: It's a different coaching staff.

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Speaker 3: It's not either one of these moron coaches of Morris

560
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Speaker 3: or Smith that are doing this and the floor.

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Speaker 1: We'll see.

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Speaker 3: It's you know, his book has yet to be written.

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Speaker 3: Whether he is another moron or he's good, we shall see.

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Speaker 3: But I don't want to put all the moronics stuff

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Speaker 3: on him at this point because for everything that you

566
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Speaker 3: laid out ericson that's positive about Algier, I'll also give

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Speaker 3: you the other side of that coin with other stats.

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Speaker 3: Amongst forty nine qualifying running backs, Tyler Algier thirty six

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Speaker 3: and explosive run rate thirty ninth and misstackles force forty

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Speaker 3: third yards are to contact per attempt. None of those

571
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Speaker 3: stats are good. So Algier gets a lot of puff

572
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Speaker 3: and praise for the success rate of Yeah, Kareem Hunt's

573
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Speaker 3: got a great success rate.

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Speaker 1: Okay, cool.

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Speaker 3: He can get three yards when he's supposed to get

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Speaker 3: three yards, and get four yards when he's supposed to

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Speaker 3: get four yards, and he's not getting crap else outside

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Speaker 3: of that, and he get touchdowns whe they're at the

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Speaker 3: goal line. Hooray.

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Speaker 1: That's not difference making.

581
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Speaker 3: I don't think James Connor is going to be on

582
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Speaker 3: It's okay, fine, Like the other part of that gets

583
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Speaker 3: lost in all of that, with all of the touchdowns

584
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Speaker 3: and the goal line success rates and stuff. How much

585
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Speaker 3: of that is also a result of your offensive line

586
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Speaker 3: doing what the hell they're supposed to do and actually

587
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Speaker 3: opening up a hole for said running back when they're

588
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Speaker 3: supposed to versus him running into a brick wall. But anyway,

589
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Speaker 3: conversation for a different day. But Jeremiah Love I still

590
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Speaker 3: think can make a big impact for this offense, both

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Speaker 3: as a runner as a pass catcher. Is that gonna

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Speaker 3: leave Arizona like a good team this year?

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Speaker 1: No?

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Speaker 3: But if you're talking about building up for next year,

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Speaker 3: when they air drop a quarterback, an actual quarterback, not

596
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Speaker 3: Jacoby Brissett and Carson Beck and whoever the hell else

597
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Speaker 3: or mustache Mania, we're not talking about any one of

598
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Speaker 3: those guys starting in twenty twenty seven.

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Speaker 1: Jeremiah Love is an.

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Speaker 3: Addition for your addition to the quarterback next year of

601
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Speaker 3: what he will be in that offense. When you have

602
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Speaker 3: an offense you're air dropping the quarterback into with Love, McBride, Wilson,

603
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Speaker 3: Harrison Junior. Yes, please, so while we exactly so, like

604
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Speaker 3: we were all talking about, like Shad Arizona done it

605
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Speaker 3: at three. No, I'm I'm fine with them not going

606
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Speaker 3: with a running back at three.

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Speaker 1: I think we all agree with that.

608
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Speaker 3: But if they couldn't trade out of the pick, we

609
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Speaker 3: can also also say, like, look, he was the best

610
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Speaker 3: player on a lot of boards in this draft class,

611
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Speaker 3: so there's a lot of push and pull there. So like,

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Speaker 3: I think your Love could still have a very impactful

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Speaker 3: rookie season. But again, like you talked about Joe, like

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Speaker 3: loaded question, is it going to matter as much and

615
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Speaker 3: win and the wins and losses? No, but that's a

616
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Speaker 3: lot more of a conversation for the crappy defense and

617
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Speaker 3: the crappy quarterback plays.

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Speaker 2: That was anybody slamming the over on the Cardinals wind

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Speaker 2: total after they drafted Jeremi Love.

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Speaker 3: No, No, but again the quarterback play and the defense

621
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Speaker 3: are more of the conversation with that too.

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Speaker 1: Not so much makes the more. I think he makes

623
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Speaker 1: the more dangerous offensively too, and they were already kind

624
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Speaker 1: of dangerous offensively with the weapons they have. Well, let's

625
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Speaker 1: be honest, I mean, if Marvin Harrison is somehow unlocked

626
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Speaker 1: a little bit better by this this new coaching staff,

627
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Speaker 1: if Jacoby's prist plays what he did last year with

628
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Speaker 1: Michael Wilson, you have Trey mcbriden now he had Jeremiah

629
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Speaker 1: Love like that all of a sudden. Like that's again,

630
00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:11,920
Speaker 1: wins and losses might not equate to it, but competitive nature.

631
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Speaker 1: They were competitive in some games last year that I

632
00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:15,760
Speaker 1: think surprised a lot of people. All Right, last guy

633
00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:17,640
Speaker 1: to talk about, probably the most important one, the most

634
00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:21,280
Speaker 1: impactful is quarterback position because it's the NFL. I keep

635
00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:24,239
Speaker 1: holding true about Fernando Mendoza playing Week one because I've

636
00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:26,359
Speaker 1: seen enough Kirk Cousins now and I think he's done.

637
00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:31,040
Speaker 1: So let's talk about really what kind of impact he

638
00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:32,760
Speaker 1: can make here in the early going, because I think

639
00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:36,159
Speaker 1: it's not just about the wins and losses here but

640
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Speaker 1: deepro to me, this is about turning around the feel

641
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Speaker 1: of an organization. I think there's been I mean it's

642
00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:44,320
Speaker 1: been a long time. It's been a couple of years

643
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Speaker 1: now since I think Derek Carr was the last guy

644
00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:49,280
Speaker 1: that gave you any hope with the Raiders, right. That's

645
00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:51,639
Speaker 1: a long time ago, all right, because Derek Carr retired

646
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Speaker 1: as a saint, all right, So it's a while. So

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Speaker 1: I think now that you have Mendoza, I think you're

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Speaker 1: trying to change this outlook of yourzation. I still don't

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Speaker 1: love the Wide Receiver Corps. But you have Bowers, you

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Speaker 1: have gend I think there's some momentum going and I

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Speaker 1: think more than anything, it's changing the mindset of this organization.

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Speaker 1: I think Mendoza is gonna be able to do so

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Speaker 1: from the impact standpoint there, He's gonna bring a whole

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Speaker 1: different vibe to this team that I don't think they've there.

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Speaker 1: I don't even know if they're ready for it. I

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Speaker 1: don't think Raider Nation's ready for it. They're gonna turn

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Speaker 1: the black Hole into a bunch of guys who could

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Speaker 1: go out there, you know, doing toy drives like that.

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Speaker 1: That's what feels like right now, and you know what,

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Speaker 1: it just might work. Maybe that's exactly what you need,

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Speaker 1: is the old gosh g whiz for Nana Mendoza to

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Speaker 1: come in there and just be completely unflappable. Because there

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Speaker 1: will be some losing here, but I think it's turned

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Speaker 1: around that mental side of the game here that's really

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Speaker 1: important for the Raiders organization. What do you think.

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Speaker 3: Hearts and minds, Joe, you got to change hearts and

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Speaker 3: minds and Fornana Mendoza can do that. And I just

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Speaker 3: can't wait to see, and you know we got schedule

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Speaker 3: release coming up later this week. I can't wait to

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Speaker 3: see who the Raiders are playing week one because I'm

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Speaker 3: waiting for the I want them to win in week

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Speaker 3: one only because I want the locker room video of

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Speaker 3: him and Kirk Cousins donning the chains and dancing in

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Speaker 3: the locker room.

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Speaker 1: I want that on my timeline.

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Speaker 3: And you talked about this, but like, yes, like Mendoza

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Speaker 3: offers this franchise actual discernible hope tied to an offensive

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Speaker 3: minded head coach that's not eighty five years old. Like yeah,

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Speaker 3: there's lots of hope for the Raiders right now. Now

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Speaker 3: his far as far as his impact on the field,

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Speaker 3: you and I see this very very differently. I think

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Speaker 3: they're gonna protect Mendoza. I think Tom Brady is the

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Speaker 3: one that's really gonna, like be the one that tells

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Speaker 3: the tale of when he actually sees the field, not

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Speaker 3: the fan base clamoring to see Mendoza or the win

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Speaker 3: loss record. So is on field impact in impact in

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Speaker 3: twenty twenty six, we shall see. I think he is

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Speaker 3: not gonna start at least until mid season, probably later,

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Speaker 3: because they're not gonna run him out there just to

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Speaker 3: get battered and beaten, and especially when Tom Brady has

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Speaker 3: come out and been very very adamant about protecting a

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Speaker 3: quarterback and allowing them to learn, and we want to

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Speaker 3: talk about basically how Indiana's offense ran RPO heavy and

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Speaker 3: transitioning to more under center with Kobiak all of the screams.

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Speaker 3: They are going to give him as much leeway and

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Speaker 3: time to learn and grow.

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Speaker 1: As he needs. Well, here here's the truth. Hey, Tom Brady.

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Speaker 1: Making a lot about Tom Brady and the ownership and

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Speaker 1: all that stuff, like he's still a very very minority

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Speaker 1: owner in this organization.

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Speaker 3: You think he is a minority voice in that room though,

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Speaker 3: that's my bigger question. I don't carry his ownership state.

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Speaker 1: The media is making the voice of Brady a little

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Speaker 1: bit big on dude, I no got this.

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Speaker 3: If Tom Brady was a minority owner of the Patriots,

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Speaker 3: would you still say that only only.

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Speaker 1: Derek Brown will put me in a position where I'm

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Speaker 1: taking shots at my all time favorite players.

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Speaker 3: I know that's what I'm saying, Like you again, relationship,

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Speaker 3: he doesn't have a voice in the room.

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Speaker 1: Jones. First, I'm defending shoes and then a week later,

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Speaker 1: I'm taking shots to Tom Brady. But here's the truth,

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Speaker 1: Andrew Erickson. Here's the truth that Derek Brown doesn't want

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Speaker 1: to turn his pretty little face towards When you're getting

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Speaker 1: selected number one overalls a quarterback in this league, the

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Speaker 1: trend is you play. Do you know the last guy

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Speaker 1: who was selected number one as a quarterback who did

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Speaker 1: not play week one and start for his team? Any guests, gentlemen,

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Speaker 1: you want to take a shot at this.

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Speaker 3: I'm sure AI helped you get this answer.

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Speaker 1: Go ahead, a good question.

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Speaker 2: Wait, let me thank.

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Speaker 1: Because it ain't cam Ward. Let me pull the Joe.

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Speaker 1: It ain't Caleb Williams, it ain't Bryce Young, it ain't

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Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence, it ain't Joe Burrow, and it ain't Kyler Murray.

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Speaker 1: You got to go back to twenty eighteen Baker Mayfield

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Speaker 1: for the guy who did. That's the last guy who

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Speaker 1: got drafted number one overall who did not start week

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Speaker 1: one for his team. So my point is this, we

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Speaker 1: could talk about it all we want, but the end

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Speaker 1: of the day, the data shows us when you invest

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Speaker 1: number one overall picking QB, number one overall QB pick

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Speaker 1: plays week one in the end NFL, Andrew, That's all

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Speaker 1: I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: I agree with you, And even if it isn't Week one,

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Speaker 2: I think that the leash on Kirk Cousins is not

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Speaker 2: going to be super long because we watched him play football,

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Speaker 2: and we're all going to watch him play football, and

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Speaker 2: we're gonna realize sooner around later that this guy is cooked.

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Speaker 2: Thirty eight years old at the start of the season

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Speaker 2: last year, guards per attempt passerating with the second lowest

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Speaker 2: of his career, along with his average depth of target.

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Speaker 2: That's what happens when you tear your achilles. You lose

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Speaker 2: the power in your lower half, and that translates to

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Speaker 2: not be able to throw the ball downfield as effectively.

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Speaker 2: You're not trying to get hit. So is Kirk I mean,

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Speaker 2: is Kirk Cousins gonna last till halfway through the year.

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Speaker 1: I don't know that last halfway through the first game.

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Speaker 1: I don't think he's gonna make it no period.

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Speaker 3: He's no spring chicken.

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Speaker 2: So look last year twenty apaer play twenty six, success

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Speaker 2: rate twenty eight, and completion rate thirty second guards per attempt.

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Speaker 2: Why do I want this guy starting with my quarterback

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Speaker 2: on my teeth. Why I don't Brady.

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Speaker 1: Does I again, tom Brady's not the head coach. Tom

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Speaker 1: Brady's not the gym manager. Tom Brady is an advisor

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Speaker 1: and he is the I mean, look how many minority

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Speaker 1: owners period, I don't care what their stock is quote

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Speaker 1: unquote in terms of their notoriety. Get to saying things

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Speaker 1: at the end of the day, because the truth is

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Speaker 1: Tom Brady is somewhere on his yacht, or somewhere in

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Speaker 1: one of his many houses, or or partying in Abitha

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Speaker 1: or somewhere else. And then he's gonna go do all

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Speaker 1: the games for Fox and he can't do much then Kenny, right,

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Speaker 1: I mean, am I crazy here?

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Speaker 3: By my Eric loves My documentation of your craziness is

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Speaker 3: well noted.

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Speaker 1: But he starts week one, and he starts week one,

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Speaker 1: we'll see, I will eat if he starts.

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Speaker 2: Don't say that last question for you, so right now

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Speaker 2: you gotta bet off. It's a rookie the year, Jeremiah

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Speaker 2: Love our friend Fernanda Mendona Francisco.

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Speaker 3: I'm not the only one.

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Speaker 1: I've heard.

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Speaker 2: I'm not the only one to make the mistake.

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Speaker 1: When you do it, it's it's Mendoza.

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Speaker 2: Disagree because he's not the favorites.

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Speaker 1: Jeremiah's right. Betting odds also told me that jayde and

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Speaker 1: Daniels wasn't the Rookie of the Year, and I picked

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Speaker 1: him too, and I won money on that, So I'm happy,

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Speaker 1: very happy to take that wager. So drop your comments.

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Speaker 1: Do you think that Fernando Mendoza is going to start

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Speaker 1: Week one like Francisco a pessimist living in a sad

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Speaker 1: state of affairs like Derek Brown? Drop your comments. We

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