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Speaker 1: Welcome in Thursday edition, Clay Travis buck Sexton show a

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Speaker 1: lot of breaking news that we are going to be

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Speaker 1: tracking throughout the course of today's program. Tragic plane crash

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Speaker 1: in Washington, d C. Between a military helicopter and American

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Speaker 1: Airlines jet going from Wichita, Kansas to Washington, d C.

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Speaker 1: What occurred? Many different stories out there. As this continues

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Speaker 1: to evolve, we will break it down for you, and

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Speaker 1: also let me just go ahead and say right off

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Speaker 1: the top, if you are a pilot eight hundred and

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Speaker 1: two eight two two eight A two and or if

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Speaker 1: you fly or have flown the Blackhawk helicopter that was

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Speaker 1: involved here, we would love to hear from you, that is,

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Speaker 1: pilots and helicopter pilots. I appreciate that a lot of

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Speaker 1: you have a variety of opinions on this, but I'd

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Speaker 1: like to have expert opinion based on what you have

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Speaker 1: seen of the evidence. We will be discussing that. Trump

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Speaker 1: just had a press conference with Secretary of Transportation Sean Duffy,

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Speaker 1: with his new Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth, and with Jade

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Speaker 1: Vance all there. We'll have some of those cuts for

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Speaker 1: you as well. The ongoing drama of the confirmation hearings

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Speaker 1: of Donald Trump's cabinet nominees. Cash Patel, who is Trump's

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Speaker 1: nominee to lead the FBI currently speaking, as well as

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Speaker 1: Tulsi Gabbard, Trump's nominee to basically head up all of

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Speaker 1: the intelligence agency universe. She is also in the midst

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Speaker 1: of her confirmation hearings. But we begin with the first

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Speaker 1: and most tragic commercial airline plane crash since two thousand

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Speaker 1: and nine. Happened last night just before nine o'clock Eastern.

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Speaker 1: I'm assuming most of you have seen the video of

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Speaker 1: the helicopter and the plane running into each other. Trump

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Speaker 1: has just announced in the White House there are no survivors.

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Speaker 1: Sixty passengers four crew members dead on the American Airlines

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Speaker 1: flight from Wichita, as well as three military members who

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Speaker 1: died in the collision who were inside of the helicopter.

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Speaker 1: There is a variety of evidence out there as to

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Speaker 1: what occurred. Will get some of the cuts of what

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Speaker 1: Trump said at the press conference, But Buck it seems

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Speaker 1: as if, based on what I have seen and analyzing

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Speaker 1: this evidence and again open phone lines eight hundred two

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Speaker 1: eight two two eight eight two, that the helicopter quite

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Speaker 1: simply did not see this American Airlines flight coming in

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Speaker 1: to land on a runway that is not necessarily the

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Speaker 1: most popular or common of a runway, and that the

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Speaker 1: plane clearly did not see the helicopter and they had

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Speaker 1: a mid air collision.

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Speaker 2: I've ridden in black helicopters in war zones and have

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Speaker 2: some familiarity as a passenger with the aircraft and their

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Speaker 2: use is they're pretty incredible platform, very versatile. But one

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Speaker 2: of the things that I think tragically came into the

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Speaker 2: situation here is they're not easy to see at night.

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Speaker 2: They are built to be stealthy. That's why they are

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Speaker 2: the color they are. That's why, especially in you know,

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Speaker 2: in war zone contexts, they can be flown at night

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Speaker 2: very effectively and safely. You know, you're you're not going

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Speaker 2: to be able to hit one with ground fire. That's

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Speaker 2: what they're built for, you know, They're they're not built

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Speaker 2: for the civilian purpose of flying around airfields. Now, I

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Speaker 2: know that nearby there are a lot of that, there

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Speaker 2: are black Hawk flights regularly, and this was not some

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Speaker 2: aberrant thing. You know, the DC airspace is a very

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Speaker 2: So this seems like, as is so often the case

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Speaker 2: not sure who, and that's obviously not casting any aspersions

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Speaker 2: was some issue that came up, and you know, one

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Speaker 2: this terrible tragedy. Generally you have a number of things

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Speaker 2: I've actually read a bit about airline disasters in the past.

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Speaker 2: Just as somebody who flies, I think a lot of

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Speaker 2: us get curious about how these things happen. And it's

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Speaker 2: a fear that, look, we all know that you're safe.

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Speaker 2: You're incredibly safe when you're flying at a US commercial airliner,

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Speaker 2: for example, But freak accidents happened, and this was a

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Speaker 2: but the likelihood that there were going to be any

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Speaker 2: as we know now there are there are no survivors.

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Speaker 2: President Trump came out and spoke about it. I know,

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Speaker 2: we'll get into some of the press conference, Clay, and

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Speaker 2: also you have other news networks and their take on this,

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Speaker 2: it's very clear just a horrible and tragic accident, and

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Speaker 2: until we know more, I don't think it's constructive to

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Speaker 2: So yeah, that's that's what I've got on it so far.

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Speaker 2: I just it's it's heartbreaking. And you and I just

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Speaker 2: And apparently some very exceptional ice skaters were on this

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Speaker 2: Russian ice skaters who were on the plane, you know,

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Speaker 1: Like yeahagers, and they just had an ice skating competition

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Speaker 1: in whichitah is the report as to why all those kids,

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Speaker 1: young people were on that plane coming back.

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Speaker 2: Yes, So I can't imagine what it's like for their families.

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Speaker 2: You have look right right out out of the right

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Speaker 2: out of the gate of their confirmations. You have Secretary

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Speaker 2: Duffy coming forward. Uh to have to have to address

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Speaker 2: a tragedy right away. I mean they've they've been in

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Speaker 2: office for a couple of days, but this is the

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Speaker 2: nature of taking those kinds of jobs. And I saw

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Speaker 3: I'm no cleauve, you've been seeing it.

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Speaker 2: Also seeing a little bit of Cash's confirmation hearing go forward.

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Speaker 2: But this is a terrible tragedy, and you know they

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Speaker 2: need to look at this very closely, as I'm sure

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Speaker 2: they will. I think Trump administration is going to get

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Speaker 2: to the bottom of well, where were the errors here?

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Speaker 2: What was preventable? What was more freak accident in nature,

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Speaker 2: and hopefully come up with practices to prevent such a

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Speaker 1: This is one thing that I think America has gotten right.

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Speaker 1: Every time there is an airline crash like this, all

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Speaker 1: at all every single detail associated with it. They reconstruct

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Speaker 1: this is the first commercial airliner that has gone down

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Speaker 1: of flying fear in general, and I'm sure for many

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Speaker 1: I like the fact that heg Seth and Sean Duffy

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Speaker 3: Immediately.

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Speaker 1: My first thought, as I'm sure many of you's first

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Speaker 1: hard to imagine this could occur, and it is. But

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Speaker 1: there is some measure I think of, at least some

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Speaker 1: been intentional. And I don't say that because in some

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Speaker 1: the human error aspects of it. But it is I

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Speaker 1: this was some sort of act of terror or this

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Speaker 1: given what's happened on nine to eleven with aircraft, naturally,

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Speaker 1: But was it intentional? It seems to have been pilot error.

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Speaker 2: You know, the worst airline disaster in history, not including

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Speaker 2: obviously nine eleven is a terrorist tech right, so excluding

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Speaker 2: nine eleven, But the worst accidental airline disaster in history

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Speaker 2: was back in nineteen seventy seven in the Canary Islands,

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Speaker 2: a pan AM flight collided on a foggy runway that

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Speaker 2: And we are it's remarkably safe given how many flights

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Speaker 3: But when something goes wrong, it.

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Speaker 2: Goes wrong in a huge way, as it did Backman,

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Speaker 2: that's going back now fifty years well, and I think

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Speaker 2: who are old enough to remember, it will evoke memories

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Speaker 3: As well associated with this.

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Speaker 2: Here's President Trump. This is cut to just speaking about

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Speaker 4: Vihav for the first Lady, myself and three hundred and

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Speaker 4: forty million Americans. Our hearts are shattered alongside yours, and

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Speaker 4: our prayers are with you now and in the days

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Speaker 4: to come. We'll be working very, very diligently. In the

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Speaker 4: and our support. There's great support. In moments like this,

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Speaker 4: The differences between Americans fade to nothing compared to the

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Speaker 4: bonds of affection and loyalty that unite us all, both

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Speaker 4: as Americans and even as nations. We are one family,

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Speaker 4: and today we are all heartbroken. We're all searching for answers.

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Speaker 2: Clay, I think one thing we can count on is

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Speaker 2: that there'll be quick answers, relatively speaking, but quick answers

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Speaker 2: from this administration about just what happened here? Did someone

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Speaker 2: designated airspace for the fixed wing. Did somebody just stray

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Speaker 2: I mean, well, we'll get to all of that, but

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Speaker 2: especially that affect Americans' lives in such a profound way,

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Speaker 1: Every time something bad happens in the age of social media,

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Speaker 5: The names of the sixty seven people who were killed,

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Speaker 4: I don't think so. At all I don't think were

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Speaker 2: As we've seen with a whole range of different tragedies

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Speaker 2: you know, this pilot doesn't have as many hours in

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Speaker 2: this airframe as we would like for your flight. However,

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Speaker 2: they are a member of the Inuit nation and they

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Speaker 2: have a disability. Yeah, there is no part of you

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Speaker 2: that would say I am happy for this on the flight.

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Speaker 2: And this is what you know, this is what comes

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Speaker 2: up when we talk about this issue. It's just a

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Speaker 2: question of honesty. Let's all be honest with each other.

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Speaker 1: Also, what would you have thought if you had gotten

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Speaker 1: on an airplane and Joe Biden had been your pilot?

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Speaker 1: Would you have gotten on the plane, you know, when

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Speaker 1: the cockpit, if Joe Biden were standing there, would you

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Speaker 1: be like, Hey, this is an airline. I have to

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Speaker 1: really feel comfortable about it. I don't think so. I

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Speaker 1: think Buck. By the way, in the investigation, one thing

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Speaker 1: they're really going to have to look into is the

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Speaker 1: interplay between helicopter and airplane communication, because it seems, based

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Speaker 1: on some of this evidence, that that could be a

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Speaker 1: flaw in that they're not integrating systems as well between

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Speaker 1: helicopters and airplanes like they would be between airplanes in

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Speaker 1: terms of air traffic control avoidance. I've flown a lot

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Speaker 1: in small planes where I wear the headset and can

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Speaker 1: hear all the air traffic control. I don't claim to

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Speaker 1: be a pilot, but I do think it's instructive to

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Speaker 1: sit and listen to the conversations that are going on

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Speaker 1: between air traffic controllers. And also in my time flying

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Speaker 1: in helicopters, they don't seem to be integrated the communication

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Speaker 1: systems between the two, and given the amount of aircraft

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Speaker 1: that is traveling in that DC area which you and

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Speaker 1: I both flew into last week. It is one of

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Speaker 1: the most commercially difficult and an air filled traffic control

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Speaker 1: out there, to say nothing buck of all the VIPs

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Speaker 1: that are constantly flying around in helicopters all over the

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Speaker 1: DC area, which is unlike any other area in America

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Speaker 1: in terms of that constant of traffic. Of the President

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Speaker 1: Defense Secretary, all these individuals flying around on helicopters, well.

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Speaker 2: This is why I think they have to look at

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Speaker 2: everything that happened here and see and to be clear, again,

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Speaker 2: we don't know anything about the cause really yet, other

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Speaker 2: than it was I think very likely pilot error on

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Speaker 2: some at some level in some capacity.

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Speaker 3: But we don't anything about the pilots. We don't know

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Speaker 3: anything about the situation that they were in.

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Speaker 2: There could have been some kind of equipment failure, so

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Speaker 2: there could have been some kind of communication getting garbled.

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Speaker 2: There's a lot of other frequencies and things going on there.

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Speaker 2: You know, we just don't We don't know. But that

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Speaker 2: all said, I also think that we should remember these

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Speaker 2: are flights. These things are happening all the time, day

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Speaker 2: in and day out, and it's it's fine, So you know,

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Speaker 2: we we shouldn't assume that there have to be massive

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Speaker 2: systemic changes for an incredibly rare, you know, tragic, totally

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Speaker 2: incredibly rare event. I mean our system works. I think

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Speaker 2: that airframes are built to something like a billion hours

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Speaker 2: of flight. Is the expected after a billion hours of flight,

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Speaker 2: like something really catastrophic can happen, the idea being they're

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Speaker 2: never going to get to the billion hours, but something

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Speaker 2: can happen at some point in the future.

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Speaker 3: A couple of things.

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Speaker 1: As we go to break you got to read Vanity

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Speaker 1: Fair did an entire story on Kamala Harris being flown

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Speaker 1: back to California by an all female crew for the

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Speaker 1: first time ever.

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Speaker 3: So that was.

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Speaker 1: Legitimately the way we said goodbye to Kamala Harris, and

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Speaker 1: we got buck a bunch of pilots who want a

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Speaker 1: way in.

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Speaker 3: We'll take some of these calls.

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Speaker 1: On the backside, commercial airline pilots, helicopter pilots. I think

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Speaker 1: we're going to get some good takes from them coming up.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back into Clay and Buck. We were telling you

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Speaker 2: that the hearings are underway right now for FBI Director

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Speaker 2: Cash Betel, the nominee for that blot, and also Tulsi

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Speaker 2: Gabbered for Director of National Intelligence.

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Speaker 4: D and I.

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Speaker 2: And we can say this so far, I think it's

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Speaker 2: looking good for both. We can get into some of

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Speaker 2: the specifics about where there's some issues and some pushback

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Speaker 2: on these nominees, but specifically, I mean, I think Clay

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Speaker 2: I would argue that Cash is one of the most

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Speaker 2: important pieces of this now early Trump administration two point

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Speaker 2: zero because not only is he in line with the mission,

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Speaker 2: he really understands what went on before. I mean, he saw,

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Speaker 2: you know, he kind of had to stare down the

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Speaker 2: demon of weaponization himself. This is what he said, this

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Speaker 2: has cut ten. He talks about how they went after him,

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Speaker 2: the deep state, and so he understands better than anybody

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Speaker 2: play ten.

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Speaker 7: This is maybe one of the scenarios that most uniquely

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Speaker 7: qualifies me to take command at the FBI. Having been

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Speaker 7: the victim of government overreach and a weaponized system of

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Speaker 7: justice and law enforcement, I know what it feels like

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Speaker 7: to have the full weight of the United States government

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Speaker 7: barreling down on you. I will ensure, if confirmed, that

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Speaker 7: no American is subjected to that kind of torment, to

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Speaker 7: that kind of cost financially and personally, and most importantly,

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Speaker 7: I will make sure that no American is subjected to

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Speaker 7: death threats like I was, and subjected to moving their

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Speaker 7: residence is like I was because of government overreach.

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Speaker 2: He was somebody who in the early days, it was,

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Speaker 2: along with Devin Nuness in Congress, was finding out the

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Speaker 2: shocking truth about the abuse of PISA to spy on

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Speaker 2: a political campaign, which was done against Donald Trump. We

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Speaker 2: should all remember that now, the use of a very

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Speaker 2: aggressive intelligence and collection tool there, the abuse of it,

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Speaker 2: I should say, the misuse of it, and all of

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Speaker 2: the things that he has seen Clay from trying to

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Speaker 2: bring the truth about Russia Gate to light. I do

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Speaker 2: think that makes him uniquely qualified. You can't have someone

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Speaker 2: who walks in the FBI right now and thinks, you know,

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Speaker 2: things are going great at.

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Speaker 3: The top here.

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Speaker 2: This is a wonderful institution that's functioning really well. You

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Speaker 2: need somebody who goes in there ready to crack some

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Speaker 2: skulls metaphorically.

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Speaker 3: Okay, tough question.

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Speaker 1: Cash, I think, is going to get confirmed. He's going

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Speaker 1: to become the next director of the FBI. Both you

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Speaker 1: and I are happy about that. How much can the

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Speaker 1: director of the FBI actually do if the FBI itself,

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Speaker 1: at the upper levels of bureaucracy is to some degree

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Speaker 1: politically polarized and or infected, What is the power of

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Speaker 1: a FBI director, even a great one.

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Speaker 3: I think that he can set.

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Speaker 2: I think he can at a tone and an expectation

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Speaker 2: that you know, the FBI.

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Speaker 3: It's it's funny. I've never worked the FBI.

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Speaker 2: I debt some FBI guys on some terrorism stuff back

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Speaker 2: in the day. You know, CIA, which I think is

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Speaker 2: overlawyered and over bureaucratized. We are cowboys compared to the FBI. Okay,

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Speaker 2: EVERYBI is very jen, very rule rule focused, very by

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Speaker 2: the book, Like if you're talking about an agency that is,

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Speaker 2: you know, the central ethos is buy the book. And

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Speaker 2: so I think if Cash is able to oh, yeah,

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Speaker 2: of course, CIA guys walker around, we're like, yeah, we're

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Speaker 2: doing all this cool fancy stuff, you know, wearing black tie,

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Speaker 2: driving Aston Martin's, firing ray guns.

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Speaker 3: Not really, but that's what we like to pretend but.

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Speaker 1: So if you are, just if you're listening to us

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Speaker 1: right now, and you are a kid, Let's say you're sixteen,

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Speaker 1: and you're thinking, hey, FBI, CIA seems cool. You think

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Speaker 1: CIA has more autonomy to fight bad guys than FBI does.

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Speaker 2: Oh, well, different mission sets. I mean one is a broad,

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Speaker 2: one is abroad, and one is here. But you know,

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Speaker 2: when you're abroad, you know, things can get a little uh,

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Speaker 2: a little funk here, you know what I mean. Stuff,

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Speaker 2: stuff can happen overseas. It's not really the same kind

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Speaker 2: of focus. We have a very important constitution and rule

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Speaker 2: of law in this country.

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Speaker 3: The FBI must abide by.

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Speaker 2: Look, we're we're a rare, a rare first world country

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Speaker 2: that has a federal law enforcement service but not really

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Speaker 2: a national domestic intelligence service. You put me onto the

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Speaker 2: show Slow Horses, which I've been watching. It's all about

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Speaker 2: m I five. Kerrie and I are a couple of

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Speaker 2: episodes in m I five.

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Speaker 3: Is this TV show? Oh you haven't seen the show?

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Speaker 3: Just read the book.

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Speaker 2: I'm reading the books, just reading the books. Well, now

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Speaker 2: now I seem like like the philistine over here, who's

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Speaker 2: like just watching the show, not read. I thought you

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Speaker 2: would love these books. The books are amazing. Yeah, the

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Speaker 2: show is The show is well done. I will say

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Speaker 2: the show is very well done, well paced. But anyway,

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Speaker 2: that's about m I five, which is British domestic intelligence

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Speaker 2: Service find me a European country for the most part,

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Speaker 2: and they have some domestic and sometimes it's a combination

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Speaker 2: of their federal police equivalent. My point is the FBI

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Speaker 2: is not an intelligence is not It's part of the

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Speaker 2: intelligence community, but it's not truly a domestic intelligence agency

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Speaker 2: because they have to always be able to justify everything

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Speaker 2: legally and bring a case against somebody, right, I mean,

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Speaker 2: if you're doing stuff, you know, intelligence gathering sometimes goes

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Speaker 2: outside of constitutional protection abroad and here at home. It

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Speaker 2: did when it came to Donald Trump. And that's really

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Speaker 2: the key point that Cash I think is trying to

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Speaker 2: hammer home in much of his is that the FBI

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Speaker 2: acted like a domestic regime intelligence service specifically to go

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Speaker 2: after Donald Trump and to try and undermine him. Here

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Speaker 2: Cash is talking about the importance here this is cut

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Speaker 2: nine of due process and the rule of law in

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Speaker 2: all of this.

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Speaker 7: For the first eight years after law school as a

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Speaker 7: public defender, first for Miami Dade County and later for

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Speaker 7: the Southern District of Florida. During that time, I represented

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Speaker 7: some pretty awful human beings charged with some pretty heinous crimes.

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Speaker 2: But what I learned there was.

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Speaker 7: The core value that has been enshrined in me since

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Speaker 7: that due process must be provided without bias to all Americans.

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Speaker 7: And if we cannot provide due process to the worst,

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Speaker 7: then there can be no due process for anyone, and

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Speaker 7: our constitutional republic fails.

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Speaker 2: I believe Clay that the weaponization of the law of law,

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Speaker 2: enforcement of prosecution is one of the fastest ways to

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Speaker 2: truly destroy this country. I think that Law Fair against

655
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Speaker 2: Trump took us into not only unprecedented territory, but uniquely

656
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:55,000
Speaker 2: dangerous territory for the future of this country. It's complete

657
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:59,759
Speaker 2: and utter defeat and collapse at Trump's feet is incredibly

658
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:03,720
Speaker 2: important for America. I would really worry about our future

659
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Speaker 2: going forward if they had been successful in the Lawfair

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Speaker 2: against Trump. But I think Cash comes to this and says,

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Speaker 2: we can never allow that to happen again, though, because

662
00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:18,840
Speaker 2: the next time if that happens, if the elements of politicization,

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00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:21,799
Speaker 2: the deep state, whatever you want to call it, are

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Speaker 2: successful in taking out a presidential candidate. This then becomes

665
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Speaker 2: the norm, and we don't actually have free and fair elections.

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Speaker 1: I also think the key here for Cash is so

667
00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:38,839
Speaker 1: many lies were embedded in our justice system during Joe

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Speaker 1: Biden's tenure. Just the idea that white supremacy, as they

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Speaker 1: regularly said, was the number one threat in America is

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Speaker 1: so laughably absurd that the problem then becomes And we've

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00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:56,760
Speaker 1: talked about this, Buck as you well know, the best

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Speaker 1: way to get promoted inside of these big bureaucracy is

673
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Speaker 1: to deliver what your bosses tell you is the biggest

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Speaker 1: problem to them on a silver platter, right, because that

675
00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:08,680
Speaker 1: makes them look good because then they can go to

676
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Speaker 1: their bosses and they say, you know what, you were right,

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Speaker 1: We caught a white supremacist. And this is gonna I mean,

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Speaker 1: look at what happened with the Gretchen Whitmer case. They

679
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:20,040
Speaker 1: basically got a bunch of dudes and tried to entrap

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Speaker 1: them into doing something that I think if you look

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Speaker 1: at all the evidence there, they would have never thought

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Speaker 1: of doing themselves, but for the FBI's involvement to try

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Speaker 1: to encourage them to engage in a criminal act. Entrapman

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Speaker 1: is a tough defense, but based on the evidence there,

685
00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:38,400
Speaker 1: it seems some of the jury did buy into the

686
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Speaker 1: idea that this was just a government plot, and they

687
00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:46,000
Speaker 1: managed to convince some guys who were not that sophisticated

688
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:50,520
Speaker 1: in the arts of kidnapping and engaging in domestic terrorism

689
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Speaker 1: to try and have conversations about that then led to charges.

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Speaker 1: My point on it is if Cash just gets in

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Speaker 1: and says, hey, my new focus is, let's just catch

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Speaker 1: a lot of bad guys, which is what when you

693
00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:04,560
Speaker 1: were growing up and when I was growing up with

694
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Speaker 1: the FBI, what were they most want, most known for

695
00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:08,520
Speaker 1: the FBI's most.

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Speaker 3: Wanted list, right like you would.

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Speaker 1: I remember touring the FBI and it was like, hey,

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Speaker 1: we're trying to catch the biggest bad guys in America,

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Speaker 1: and we all rooted for them. And now I saw Cash,

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Speaker 1: And in his testimony today pointed out there's a forty

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Speaker 1: percent approval rating of the FBI. Now forty percent, that's

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Speaker 1: got to be healed.

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Speaker 2: Yes, Well, well, when you when you see FBI and

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Speaker 2: this has been seen on video, that's what I mean.

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Speaker 2: I don't mean it's sort of generally seen. I mean

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00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:38,279
Speaker 2: you can actually watch when you see FBI agents deployed

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00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:47,000
Speaker 2: to go and question and or arrest peaceful pro life activists.

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00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:51,280
Speaker 2: When you see FBI tactical teams deployed to go arrest

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Speaker 2: nonviolent JA six protesters, when you see that, you can't

710
00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:58,840
Speaker 2: forget it, and you shouldn't forget it, because that is

711
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:02,160
Speaker 2: a lot of us want to think. The FBI's resources

712
00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:06,720
Speaker 2: should be deployed to stopping people who are doing really

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Speaker 2: bad things that are federal crimes. And it should be

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Speaker 2: you know, top down, who's who's murdering, Who's who's you know, abusing,

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Speaker 2: trafficking children, who's part of drug cartels, you know, who's

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Speaker 2: ripping people off of the of their life savings, and

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Speaker 2: and you know, trying to trying to get away with it,

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Speaker 2: you know, through scams or whatever. That's what the FBI

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Speaker 2: should be doing to go speak to and speak I mean,

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Speaker 2: they're they're really interrogating, like I have. You do you

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Speaker 2: know the video I'm talking about where the pro life

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Speaker 2: active is video of the FBI guys walking up to

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Speaker 2: their door.

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Speaker 1: I think that was in my home state of Tennessee.

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Speaker 1: If I'm not mistaken. When they show up at the

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Speaker 1: house and like I mean, on some level. That's got

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Speaker 1: to be embarrassing, I would think for the FBI agents.

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Speaker 1: I don't think anybody showed up to work at the

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Speaker 1: FBI to do what those guys did.

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Speaker 2: Yes, but it just goes they were told by their boss,

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Speaker 2: who was told by his or her boss, and so

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Speaker 2: on all the way up by the big boss of

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Speaker 2: the FBI. Biden hates pro life activist, go do this.

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Speaker 2: That's basically what went down. And that's the kind of

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Speaker 2: stuff that makes people say, you know, we all we

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Speaker 2: all love when the FBI shows up and and you know,

737
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Speaker 2: it's like the cavalry arrives in the TV show, because

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Speaker 2: the FBI guys, the windbreakers show up to get the

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Speaker 2: you know, the drug cartel kingpin who's been you know,

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Speaker 2: executing people and hanging them from bridges and stuff. We

741
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Speaker 2: all know what we want the FBI doing, and I

742
00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:29,000
Speaker 2: know there are a lot of guys and gals in

743
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Speaker 2: the FBI who.

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Speaker 3: Were doing it.

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Speaker 2: But Cash going in is a I think a necessary

746
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Speaker 2: corrective to what we've been seeing in recent years. I

747
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Speaker 2: mean even the and this is from the Attorney General side,

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Speaker 2: which is obviously going to be pan Bondi.

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Speaker 3: But remember they.

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Speaker 2: Were talking about the parents showing up at the COVID

751
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Speaker 2: meetings and how they were on some list, you know, Merrit.

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Speaker 3: Carl I was one of them.

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Speaker 1: Buck, Remember they were investigating the FBI was the school

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Speaker 1: board meetings because a lot of parents like me showed

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Speaker 1: up and said we don't want our kids wearing masks.

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Speaker 1: And there was some harassment of the pro mask community

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Speaker 1: outside of the outside of the hearing. That was back

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Speaker 1: in August of twenty one, Buck, right after we came

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Speaker 1: on the air, and I remember calling you right after

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00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:15,520
Speaker 1: and saying, there's a lot of momentum out here finally

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Speaker 1: to stand up against the COVID tyranny. And that to

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Speaker 1: me was a gratifying moment to see rational, reasonable parents

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Speaker 1: out there finally saying our kids can't sit around in

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Speaker 1: masks all day. It took to August of twenty one

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Speaker 1: for really kind of this thing to pop in my community.

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Speaker 2: Oh, you were apparently a radical anti mask extremist, might

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Speaker 2: have been on some FBI watched list. Clay, he shall

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Speaker 2: not mask, He shall not mask.

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Speaker 3: To me too, I hated masking. We were worrying about

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Speaker 3: all that. By the way, kind of matters.

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Speaker 2: That's true, I know, And you know, you know how

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Speaker 2: many apologies I've gotten from people, both in my personal

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Speaker 2: life and online who were just.

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Speaker 3: Like, how could you?

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Speaker 2: Masks are saving so many lives?

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Speaker 3: Zero one?

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Speaker 2: And I remember some of you know, I don't even

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Speaker 2: want to talk to them. Well they do, They're like

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Speaker 2: little babies.

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Speaker 3: It was the best information we had.

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Speaker 4: At the time.

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Speaker 2: No, it wasn't. I was the best information. You were

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Speaker 2: the best information we had at the time. I mean,

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Speaker 2: it wasn't that complicated of an issue, but it told

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Speaker 2: you everything you need to know about who you should

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Speaker 2: trust in media for the next generation. Personally, if somebody

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Speaker 2: told me that, you know, there's an umbrella that you

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Speaker 2: but you can pull it up and not use it

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Speaker 2: for a while, that was masking. Okay, the whole thing

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Speaker 1: Welcome back in Clay, Travis Buck Sexton Show. Okay, A

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Speaker 1: lot going on on Capitol Hill. A variety of different

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Speaker 1: hearings simultaneously all occurring as we certainly are grappling with

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Speaker 1: the awful news that has come out of the Wichita

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00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:06,040
Speaker 1: plane crash that occurred in DC, which has overshadowed much

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Speaker 1: of these hearings. But we want to play some of

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Speaker 1: the cuts to give you a sense for what has

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Speaker 1: actually been taking place. Cut thirty Here, RFK Junior has

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Speaker 1: directly called out Bernie Sanders by saying, Hey, this is

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00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:28,440
Speaker 1: really all about you just taking more money from big

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Speaker 1: pharma companies than anyone.

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Speaker 3: Things got spicy here.

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Speaker 8: Listen, I'm going to make America healthier than other countries

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Speaker 8: in the world right now, will you guarantee do what

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Speaker 8: every other major country. That's a simple question. And by

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Speaker 8: the way, Bernie, you know, the problem of corruption is

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Speaker 8: not just in the federal ations, is in Congress. To

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Speaker 8: almost all the members of this panel are accepting, including yourself,

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Speaker 8: are accepting millions of dollars from the pharmaceutical.

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Speaker 3: Protecting their interests.

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Speaker 8: I thought that that would no. I ran for president

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Speaker 8: like you. I got millions, millions of contributions. They did

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Speaker 8: not come from the executives, not one nickel of pack

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Speaker 8: money from the pharmaceuticals. They came twenty twenty eight in

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Speaker 8: twenty twenty, you were the single largest because I saved

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Speaker 8: combinations from workers all over this country.

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Speaker 3: Workers.

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Speaker 8: You were not a nickel from corporate. You were the

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Speaker 8: single largest pharmaceutical dollars from workers in five million.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, out of two hundred million.

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Speaker 2: Maybe Bernie is going to be a communist with four houses,

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Speaker 2: you know, given all that, it's really funny, But I

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Speaker 2: do think buck this is the essence of the opposition

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Speaker 2: to RFK Junior. Big Pharma is threatened by his challenge

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Speaker 2: of their corporate hegemony, and they have bought off a

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Speaker 2: lot of major politicians, including Bernie Sanders, who claims that

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Speaker 2: he is above approach in respected things like this. All right,

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Speaker 2: so that was some drama from RFK Junior, who seems

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Speaker 2: to be headed towards approval. Here is cash pateel John Kennedy,

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Speaker 2: Republican Senator from Louisiana, questioning him. I think you guys

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Speaker 2: are going to enjoy this. This is a positive testimony

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Speaker 2: from John Kennedy. Very funny in Louisiana.

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Speaker 9: Enjoy My colleague and friend, Senator Durbin called you a

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Speaker 9: conspiracy theorists. Remember that I do, Senator, you were instrumental

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Speaker 9: in revealing that the Trump Russia election collusion hoax was

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Speaker 9: a hoax.

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Speaker 7: Weren't you, Yes, sir, I was a lead investigator.

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Speaker 9: Sounds to me like we need to get some new

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Speaker 9: conspiracy theories because all the old ones turned out to

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Speaker 9: be true.

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Speaker 7: Fax Matter, Senator.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean conspiracy theorist up something like thirty seven and.

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Speaker 1: Nothing, all right, So I thought that was pretty funny,

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Speaker 1: And I mean, I think that's one reason Cash is

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Speaker 1: the nominee.

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Speaker 3: And then last.

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Speaker 1: Tulsa Gabbird Buck these are all things that happened today.

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Speaker 1: Tulsi Gabbert, testifying on Capitol Hill, called out the fifty

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Speaker 1: one intelligence agents who claimed that Hunter Biden's laptop had

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Speaker 1: all the hallmarks of disinformation.

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Speaker 3: Here's that the.

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Speaker 10: American people elected Donald Trump as their president not once,

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Speaker 10: but twice, and yet the FBI and intelligence agencies were

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Speaker 10: politicized by his opponents to undermine his presidency and falsely

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Speaker 10: portray him as a puppet of Putin. Title one Offiza

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Speaker 10: was used illegally to obtain a warrant to spy on

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Speaker 10: Trump campaign advisor Carter Page, using a Clinton campaign funded

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Speaker 10: false dossier as their so called evidence. Biden campaign advisor

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Speaker 10: Tony Blinken was the impetus for the fifty one former

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Speaker 10: Senior intelligen officials letter dismissing Hunter Biden's laptop as disinformation,

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Speaker 10: specifically to help Biden win the election. Former d and

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Speaker 10: I James Clapper lied to this committee in twenty thirteen

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Speaker 10: denying the existence of programs that facilitated the mass collection

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Speaker 10: of millions of Americans' phone and Internet records, yet was

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Speaker 10: never held accountable. Under John Brennan's leadership, the CIA abused

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Speaker 10: its power to spy on Congress to dodge oversight, lied

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Speaker 10: about doing it until he was caught, and yet has

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Speaker 10: never been held responsible. Under Biden, the FBI abused its

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Speaker 10: power for political reasons to try to surveil Catholics who

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Speaker 10: attend traditional Latin mass labeling them as quote unquote radical

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Speaker 10: traditionalist Catholics. Personally, just twenty four hours after crisize Kamala

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Speaker 10: Harris and her nomination, I was placed on a secret

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Speaker 10: domestic terror watch list called Quiet Skies. Sadly, there are

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Speaker 10: more examples. The bottom line is this, this must end.

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Speaker 1: So Buck, what I would say about all three of

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Speaker 1: those clips that we just played in all three of

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Speaker 1: the individuals testifying today RFK Junior Cash, Pttel Tulsi Gabbard.

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Speaker 1: They are outsiders that are not in the traditional power

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Speaker 1: dynamic of Washington, disruptors, and they're being attacked by people

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Speaker 1: who want to to a large degree, preserved the status quo.

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Speaker 1: Is that an accurate take from your perspective.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think that what Tulsi what upsets so

907
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Speaker 2: many of the people within the system about Tulsi is

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Speaker 2: that she doesn't have this allegiance that comes from being

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Speaker 2: within this community for such a long period of time,

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Speaker 2: which generally I think has been a precondition for getting

911
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Speaker 2: one of these jobs. It's a management job. It's a

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Speaker 2: leadership and management job to be the DNI. And James

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Speaker 2: Clapper was the DNI before, who is a buffoon and

914
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Speaker 2: a partisan hack. So I don't care what his resume is.

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Speaker 2: He showed who he was in that role as the

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Speaker 2: Director of National Intelligence. He was absolutely, absolutely horrible for

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Speaker 2: the country. And same thing with Brennan, who was a

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Speaker 2: career intel guy and had been Obama's counter terrorisms are

919
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Speaker 2: in the White House and had come from the intelligence

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Speaker 2: community before then. I agree with those who said they

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Speaker 2: don't like the name intelligence community makes it sound like

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Speaker 2: we sin around or just you know, bobbing our tea

923
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Speaker 2: bags and talking about what's going on. You know, Oh,

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Speaker 2: there's some people having noisy parties lately, like the IC.

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Speaker 3: Whatever, don't.

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Speaker 2: I think that it's gotten way too First of all,

927
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Speaker 2: it's way too large, it's far too bureaucratic, it is

928
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Speaker 2: far too slow, it underperforms, it underdelivers, it's incredibly expensive,

929
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Speaker 2: and now it has become a threat to the republic

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Speaker 2: itself because it has been used as a weapon repeatedly

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Speaker 2: against a one half of the country's political wishes, with

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Speaker 2: the Trump administration and the Trump and the Trump first

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Speaker 2: term and second term. So I think that Tulsi pointing

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Speaker 2: out the fifty one intelligence officers, I mean that that

935
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Speaker 2: was hey, guys, you can trust we're telling you the truth.

936
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Speaker 2: And they all lied and they knew they were lying,

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Speaker 2: and there should be consequences to that for the broader bureaucracy.

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Speaker 2: But also I think those individuals should all hang their

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Speaker 2: heads in shame. Of course, the Democrats like them because

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Speaker 2: they serve their purposes in twenty twenty, but it's interesting

941
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Speaker 2: to see people Clay propose that Tulsi Gabbard would be

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Speaker 2: incapable of doing this or not the right person to

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Speaker 2: do this, And you stay to yourself, what evidence is

944
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Speaker 2: there that the people have had this job before under

945
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Speaker 2: both the Biden and Obama administrations, should have been in

946
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Speaker 2: charge of anything at all, and they got confirmed. So

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Speaker 2: I don't see this as an issue. Look, she's gonna

948
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Speaker 2: have some challenges because she doesn't know. I mean, I

949
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Speaker 2: have five or six more years in the intelligence community

950
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Speaker 2: than Tulsa does, right so, and I'm a radio host.

951
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Speaker 2: She doesn't know what she's getting into with that at

952
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Speaker 2: some level, because you can't know till you're there, and

953
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Speaker 2: she's going to be a total novice in that respect.

954
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Speaker 2: But she was in the military. She's been in the

955
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Speaker 2: military for decades. I mean, she has an understanding of

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Speaker 2: large bureaucracy, and I think that she also to anybody

957
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Speaker 2: who's being fair in mind, you can come at this

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Speaker 2: with the perspective of someone who has not been like

959
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Speaker 2: an avowed trumper or right winger or you know, hardcore conservative.

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Speaker 2: She was a Democrat running for president what in twenty twenty.

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Speaker 1: I mean, we hope to be running against Trump in

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty. That's what's so staggering about all of this

963
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Speaker 1: stuff is she ran for the nomination in twenty twenty.

964
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Speaker 1: She could have been the Democrat nominee to go against Trump.

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Speaker 2: In theory, this whole thing is an experiment to bringing

966
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Speaker 2: until very recently Democrats into your administration at a very

967
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Speaker 2: high level. It is Trump's decision to make and I

968
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Speaker 2: back him on. You know, he just won this election.

969
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Speaker 2: He went through all that, he he ran the gauntlet,

970
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Speaker 2: won this election, and has earned the right to have

971
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Speaker 2: the team that he wants.

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Speaker 3: It is going to be interesting.

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Speaker 2: I mean, some of these picks are not the picks

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Speaker 2: that I think a lot of people who are lifelong

975
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Speaker 2: Conservatives would have necessarily gone to. But you want disruption,

976
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Speaker 2: you want to change the status quo, you want people

977
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Speaker 2: to shake things up.

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Speaker 3: You need a different approach.

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Speaker 1: How about the fact, Buck that if they get shot down,

980
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Speaker 1: it's going to be because two former Democrats in RFK

981
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Speaker 1: Junior and Tulci Gabbard were uniformly opposed by Democrats and

982
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Speaker 1: all of the Republicans didn't line up behind them. Right

983
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Speaker 1: Like this to me, when you just look at this,

984
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Speaker 1: if you're a totally rational human being and not just

985
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Speaker 1: an anti Trump zelot, how can there not be ten

986
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Speaker 1: Democrats that will support seventy four year Democrat RFK Junior

987
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Speaker 1: and all of our life basically Democrat Tulci Gabbard like,

988
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Speaker 1: I'm not talking about this is what I'm just a.

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Speaker 2: Few this is what I was getting out yesterday. I

990
00:54:54,160 --> 00:55:00,600
Speaker 2: think that they are particularly bitter at the that they

991
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Speaker 2: view as having been in the fold, inside the tent,

992
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Speaker 2: who have now gone to the other side. Right, So

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Speaker 2: I think they're in some ways, I think Tulsi actually,

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Speaker 2: in most ways, I think Tulsi and rfk's former democrat

995
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Speaker 2: ness is nothing but held against them by Democrats.

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Speaker 3: Right.

997
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Speaker 2: It's they're viewed They're not viewed as, oh, you're more

998
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Speaker 2: reasonable because you've agreed with by the way, I think

999
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Speaker 2: RFK still agrees with Democrats and a lot of things.

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Speaker 3: Put that aside.

1001
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Speaker 2: Don't yell at me. It's just the truth. But they

1002
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Speaker 2: view it as you switch teams entirely. Therefore you're a trader,

1003
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Speaker 2: not oh, I can see eye to eye with you

1004
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Speaker 2: on some stuff and you're not a dogmatic right winger.

1005
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Speaker 2: Like for Democrats, it's all about power and they've gone

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Speaker 2: to help Trump. You're helping Trump, You're helping power to

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Speaker 2: the other side unacceptable. That's all they care about. All

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