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Speaker 1: straight Fire FM. It's me Jason McIntyre, Straight Fire for Wednesday, January.

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Speaker 1: I thought i'd be starting with a positive today. Guys, listen,

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Speaker 1: it's hump day. We got a great interview with the

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Speaker 1: former NFL player who was on the Eagles. He feuded

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Speaker 1: with Chip Kelly. I've never heard the story before. I

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Speaker 1: think you'll like it. He was on the Bachelorette. He

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Speaker 1: got injured on the Bachelorette. His name is Clay Harbor.

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Speaker 1: Played for the Eagles, so that's mostly while we're having

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Speaker 1: him on. Also, he's just an interesting individual. We'll get

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Speaker 1: to Clay shortly. I don't know where to start with

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Speaker 1: this Lakers game. I honestly, I found myself angry at

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Speaker 1: the Lakers for the first time, probably since I think

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Speaker 1: what they started to intend is that what it was

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Speaker 1: first time I was genuinely angry watching the game last night. Folks,

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Speaker 1: this is gutless. Everybody, with the exception of Lebron James,

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Speaker 1: was a complete no show. I mean, I know, it's

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Speaker 1: January basketball and you're not supposed to freak out and overreact,

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Speaker 1: and they're still what do you got like almost thirty

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Speaker 1: games left. Jay, Relax, This's just one of those games.

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Speaker 1: My reactions coming out were like, Darvin Ham, what the

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Speaker 1: hell are you doing? You're just giving up wide open threes.

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Speaker 1: I mean, the Clippers felt like they made twenty threes

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Speaker 1: nine threes in the first quarter. You can't dig yourself

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Speaker 1: out of a hole like that. Lakers gave up seventy

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Speaker 1: seven points. I'm dying here. Seventy seven points in the

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Speaker 1: first half at home. Seventy seven Are you kidding me?

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Speaker 1: That's gutless. They just let the Clippers shoot a bunch

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Speaker 1: of threes. I don't want to hear they were contested, guys,

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Speaker 1: I don't want to hear it. Gutless defense, embarrassing, and hey,

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Speaker 1: let's call us spade a spade. You start to get

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Speaker 1: to these playoff games. This was a playoff game. This

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Speaker 1: felt like a playoff game. Russell Westbrook is an abomination.

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Speaker 1: He is not a plus. You won on the court

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Speaker 1: minutes minus eleven four of thirteen shooting. You can get

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Speaker 1: your shot off around the rim against most teams in

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Speaker 1: this league, but against the playoff teams that the ones

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Speaker 1: with contenders. I mean, Russ just could do nothing at

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Speaker 1: the rim. The Clippers only blocked eight shots, but it

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Speaker 1: felt like a dozen. Robert Covington had three, Kauai had to.

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Speaker 1: I just this was the kind of game. Will you

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Speaker 1: watch Russell Westbrook and you're like, all right, let's be realistic.

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Speaker 1: He can help us in a playing game. He can

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Speaker 1: help us in the regular season, but we get to

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Speaker 1: a playoff series against a good team, like we're getting

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Speaker 1: twenty minutes tonight and for what forty six million dollars?

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Speaker 1: This was one of those losses where Russ got exposed

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Speaker 1: Gary Trent, let's move on from Westbrook. Let's just cut

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Speaker 1: the quarter. He ain't gonna be here next year. We

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Speaker 1: know that he I know he finished with seventeen and five,

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Speaker 1: but if you watched the game, missed a lot of

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Speaker 1: free throws. Clippers game many three. He wanted one of four,

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Speaker 1: and he couldn't finish at the rim around a long team.

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Speaker 1: Now I'll get to Lebron at a second award on

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Speaker 1: the Clippers. Okay, are they usually gonna make seventeen threes? No,

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Speaker 1: of course not. But holy hell, this team looks dangerous

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Speaker 1: and I know they have historically have not been this

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Speaker 1: season because of you know, Kawhi Leonard showing up every

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Speaker 1: the John Wall thing. But Terrence Band looks really freaking good.

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Speaker 1: Paul George, he raised his game to another level against

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Speaker 1: the Lakers. It looked like he was very locked in.

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Speaker 1: Kauai eleven of sixteen, effishing as hell, twenty five and

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Speaker 1: Norman Powell, by the way, Norman Powell saw him at

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Speaker 1: the uh Dave Chappelle's show in Anaheim. Super friendly guy.

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you this. Nobody except one other guy in

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Speaker 1: me noticed Norman Powell in the line. Like he's standing

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Speaker 1: Reggie Jackson was in his bag. You know, I'll say

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Speaker 1: this about Reggie Jackson member his career nearly ended a

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Speaker 1: was also without John Wall who they had tried to

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Speaker 1: start for a while. I don't think he's a starter.

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Speaker 1: Bottom line, the Lakers got dusted and I will quickly

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Speaker 1: wrap up Patrick Beverley ship him out of town on

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Speaker 1: the next bus. He was terrible, I know he was.

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Speaker 1: He showed well against Portland, Portland's bottom feeder guys, I

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Speaker 1: round series against Denver Phoenix. It's just not like I

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Speaker 1: get that he's a pest, but I'd rather have an

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Speaker 1: actual effective player. Paul Patrick Beverley one of eight and

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Speaker 1: thirty five minutes. He can't score, He's he's just such

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Speaker 1: a negative Offensively, Shrewder struggled, Thomas Bryan had a solid game. Listen,

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Speaker 1: bottom line, they need a d Hachimura did not play

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Speaker 1: when Lynn Gabriel my guy, fourteen minutes, he looked good

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Speaker 1: and then I don't know what happened in the second half,

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Speaker 1: did not play for whatever reason. Darvin Ham Listen, man.

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Speaker 1: that's so disrespectful. Lebron has a right to be. Piste

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Speaker 1: off Lebron forty six points, career high, nine threes. Lebron

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Speaker 1: had forty eight and seven single handedly brought the Lakers

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Speaker 1: then he basically put on a show in the fourth

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Speaker 1: But Lebron was incredible, forty six points in thirty three minutes.

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Speaker 1: He is without question a four first or second team

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Speaker 1: All NBA player. But he's got to be piste looking

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Speaker 1: at the standings and the Lakers fall another game back

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Speaker 1: this game, and I'm buddies with a Laker season ticket holder.

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Speaker 1: I go to some games with him, my buddy Jeff,

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Speaker 1: was texting him like, how angry I am. Dann my

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Speaker 1: was a show me what you've got, Lakers. You looked

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Speaker 1: their pants. I'm not even making that up. It was

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Speaker 1: Lebron and then a bunch of dudes who did not

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Speaker 1: look ready for the moment. Extremely disappointing. Lake Clip. Lakers

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Speaker 1: have lost ten straight to the paper Clips. Swept this season,

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Speaker 1: um two of them by double digits. The first one

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Speaker 1: obviously did not play, but it's just it's it's a

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Speaker 1: disappointing result for the Lakers. I know you don't want

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Speaker 1: six minutes, played his ass off forty six points, eight boards,

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Speaker 1: and play those Spurs. Hey, Lebron said, you know what,

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Speaker 1: you built this team, Tell tell Russ and Dennis Shrewder

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Speaker 1: Then it's like you go into the West coast, the

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Speaker 1: going to make the playoffs? I'm still confident they can

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Speaker 1: get in. But you when you miss a window to

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Speaker 1: I just I don't know if everyone else is. Guys,

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Speaker 1: It's it's a thoroughly disappointing defeat. And I know, I

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Speaker 1: get it that. There was a lot of other results

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Speaker 1: It's crazy. I know, I know, but I don't really

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Speaker 1: to playoff games. It's just it's disheartening. Anyway, Let's get

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Speaker 1: to our guest, Clay Harbor, former Philadelphia Eagle, Bachelorette contestant,

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Speaker 1: straight fire. A former Eagles tight end played college football

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Speaker 1: but obviously being with the Eagles is super fascinating given

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Speaker 1: the Eagles are in the NFC title game. Clay Harbor, Clay,

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Speaker 1: how you doing, man, I'm doing great. I'm in Chicago.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it was a great Dayance. You brought up

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Speaker 1: a good week because the Eagles are in the NFC

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Speaker 1: going on for my four season, moving me to outside linebacker.

423
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Speaker 1: What did you say when he said that? Well, I

424
00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:44,480
Speaker 1: was going to give it a shot. And then I

425
00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:46,359
Speaker 1: went out, you know, talking to my agent. I found

426
00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:47,960
Speaker 1: out there was like a lot of teams that that

427
00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:50,199
Speaker 1: thought of me as a you know, number two tight end.

428
00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:52,280
Speaker 1: I go, why am I here trying to play linebacker?

429
00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:54,080
Speaker 1: So I a lot nobody knows this, but I went

430
00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:56,439
Speaker 1: to his office and asked them to release me. Wouldn't

431
00:21:56,480 --> 00:21:58,560
Speaker 1: release me, and started ask telling me he didn't think

432
00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:00,119
Speaker 1: I can play in this league as a white as

433
00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:02,320
Speaker 1: a tight end. And then I'm like, you know, I

434
00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:04,119
Speaker 1: think I can. Then he starts going through the teams

435
00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:06,160
Speaker 1: he doesn't think I can play for Literally in front

436
00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:07,480
Speaker 1: of me, like you can't play for this team, You

437
00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:08,800
Speaker 1: can't play for this team. I think you should try

438
00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:11,520
Speaker 1: to play linebacker. You're really athletic, you can move, just

439
00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:14,040
Speaker 1: don't think tight ends your position. It's a tough spot

440
00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:18,040
Speaker 1: in this league. End up missing O t as like

441
00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:19,920
Speaker 1: on my own, just skipping and they're calling me and

442
00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:21,479
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm not coming. What they gonna do? Cut me?

443
00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:24,080
Speaker 1: Like I want I release me, Please trade me, release me.

444
00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:27,639
Speaker 1: It's what I'm asking for. And then at that point, uh,

445
00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:29,840
Speaker 1: you know, I finally come back and they say they'll

446
00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:31,680
Speaker 1: move me back tighten and moving back to tight end.

447
00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:34,640
Speaker 1: Finish out. O t A is going to the preseason

448
00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:39,320
Speaker 1: and from from there you'll play tight end. We have

449
00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:41,920
Speaker 1: the first week of the season, we're playing against the

450
00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:43,800
Speaker 1: New England Patriots. I think he's trying to trade me

451
00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:46,280
Speaker 1: because he went from having me at seventh on the

452
00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:49,520
Speaker 1: depth chart, like barely's touching foot, Like I'm not practicing

453
00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:52,200
Speaker 1: at all. Remember one time I didn't practice for an

454
00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:56,480
Speaker 1: hour and a half. I am ice cold, go through warmups,

455
00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:58,840
Speaker 1: the you know, all the pre game the pre practice stuff,

456
00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:01,520
Speaker 1: and don't play at all. Like Clay, you're in last

457
00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:05,600
Speaker 1: period of practice, I coach, I'm not going in Like no,

458
00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:09,960
Speaker 1: you're you're in. I said, no, I a coach, you

459
00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:11,680
Speaker 1: haven't put me in an hour and a half. I

460
00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:14,240
Speaker 1: go ice cold. If if I go in right now,

461
00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:16,439
Speaker 1: I'm gonna pull my ham strength. So was some stuff

462
00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:21,080
Speaker 1: like that, going back and forth on the practice field

463
00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:23,639
Speaker 1: in front of everyone. I mean, just me and me

464
00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:25,320
Speaker 1: and my tight end coach at that time, you know,

465
00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:28,840
Speaker 1: trying to put me in. And uh, eventually, you know,

466
00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:30,879
Speaker 1: they moved me back to number two against the Patriots,

467
00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:32,760
Speaker 1: so I think they're trying to trade me show you know,

468
00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:34,680
Speaker 1: like showcase me. You might you want to you might

469
00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:37,040
Speaker 1: want this guy. I have a good game against the

470
00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:39,360
Speaker 1: Patriots and like a half of work, I like four

471
00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:43,920
Speaker 1: catches for ninety yards in the preseason game, and uh

472
00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:47,680
Speaker 1: and from there, um he brings me into his office.

473
00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:49,879
Speaker 1: Chip Kelly does, Hey, you know you like what you're

474
00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:51,720
Speaker 1: doing at tight end. You have those four big catches,

475
00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:54,000
Speaker 1: had a really good week of practice that week against

476
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Speaker 1: New England, really good week of practice. He goes, but,

477
00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:58,720
Speaker 1: like we said, this tight end rooms is tough, so

478
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Speaker 1: we're gonna move me to white movie to wide receiver.

479
00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:03,879
Speaker 1: So they end up moving out to wide receivers. So

480
00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:06,439
Speaker 1: now I'm playing wide receiver with the Shawn Jackson, Jeremy

481
00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:08,159
Speaker 1: mac all those guys trying to do what they do

482
00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:10,040
Speaker 1: as a big Like now I'm back in like college,

483
00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:13,360
Speaker 1: J's as a decent wide receiver, you know. And um

484
00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:15,679
Speaker 1: so I was trying to play wide receiver. They end

485
00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:18,080
Speaker 1: up releasing me end of the season, and I had

486
00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:20,280
Speaker 1: lost like fifteen pounds because it said they're gonna keep

487
00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:22,439
Speaker 1: me a wide receiver. Now I'm underweight, and I get

488
00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:26,040
Speaker 1: signed by the Jaguars. Funny enough, the Jaguars first game

489
00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:28,080
Speaker 1: that year, because they were first in the way waiver

490
00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:30,960
Speaker 1: wire is against the Chiefs. That's where Andy Reid went.

491
00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:34,280
Speaker 1: First play of the season of Andy Reid's tenure at

492
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Speaker 1: the Chiefs and mine and the Jaguars, I end up

493
00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:39,359
Speaker 1: catching a fifteen yard pass against my old coach. I

494
00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:42,840
Speaker 1: just remember thinking, like, wow, life happens fast, man. You know,

495
00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:45,560
Speaker 1: literally a week ago I was with the Eagles and

496
00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:47,840
Speaker 1: this guy I'm playing against my old coach, and now

497
00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:50,480
Speaker 1: the first play of the game, I'm catching a fifteen

498
00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:55,480
Speaker 1: yard pass against him. Oh my gosh, that's wild, dude,

499
00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:58,359
Speaker 1: unbelievable stuff. And then so you were Jacksonville for a

500
00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:00,320
Speaker 1: little while, and then you know Peter that but yeah.

501
00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:02,120
Speaker 1: I mean, listen, man, that's a that's a crazy story

502
00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:04,119
Speaker 1: of how you got to the NFL. Though, I'm curious,

503
00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:07,520
Speaker 1: do you still keep in contact with anyone at the Eagles, Like,

504
00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:10,280
Speaker 1: are you surprised by how quickly they turned this around?

505
00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:16,080
Speaker 1: I'm not. They've always been a pretty good, you know team,

506
00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:18,320
Speaker 1: even when Doug Peterson was there. They made the playoffs

507
00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:21,240
Speaker 1: a few times, they won that Super Bowl. Okay, Doug

508
00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:23,800
Speaker 1: gets fired. They bring in seriality. They made the playoffs

509
00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:26,320
Speaker 1: last year, only the first round, and they brought in

510
00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:28,280
Speaker 1: some big pieces. How he Roseman did a heck of

511
00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:32,000
Speaker 1: a job getting a J. Brown and science hasan Raddick.

512
00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:35,040
Speaker 1: What he's done with that offensive line is pretty incredible.

513
00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:38,000
Speaker 1: You know, drafting Jalen Hurts when you when you had

514
00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:41,159
Speaker 1: Carson Wentz there was it was something that people criticized

515
00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:42,720
Speaker 1: and you look at what happened. I mean, it turned

516
00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:45,360
Speaker 1: out to be a great move. And he's just done

517
00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:47,800
Speaker 1: a great job. They're bringing in the pieces that he's

518
00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:51,440
Speaker 1: brought in T J. Edwards, undrafted free agent C. J.

519
00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:55,320
Speaker 1: Gardner Johnson at safety, bringing in James Bradberry late in

520
00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:57,680
Speaker 1: the season after the Giants cut him. I mean He's

521
00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:00,440
Speaker 1: done some some crazy things, some really good things, and

522
00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:02,520
Speaker 1: now they're in the position where I think they're gonna

523
00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:04,479
Speaker 1: win a Super Bowl here. I think they can. Obviously

524
00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:06,679
Speaker 1: it's something to say they will. I think they're in

525
00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:09,320
Speaker 1: a position to where they can, and in my opinion,

526
00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:13,520
Speaker 1: they're the favorite too to win the Super Bowl. Bangas

527
00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:17,040
Speaker 1: has them as the favorite right now. Ye slight favorite

528
00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:20,200
Speaker 1: over the Chiefs or over the Bengals. I'm sorry because

529
00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:23,840
Speaker 1: my home's injury. Yeah. So yeah, I mean it's been impressive,

530
00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:27,000
Speaker 1: but the franchise is is done well, it's it's a

531
00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:31,360
Speaker 1: perennial good franchise, and I think Howie Roseman has done

532
00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:33,359
Speaker 1: a really good job with the with the players he's

533
00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:35,600
Speaker 1: put on there, and obviously Sirianni's he's come back and

534
00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:39,280
Speaker 1: done some really good things coaching that team as well. Yeah,

535
00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:41,480
Speaker 1: I I was way on the wrong side of that.

536
00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:44,960
Speaker 1: I was thinking Chip Kelly's the guy. Howie Roseman doesn't

537
00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:49,440
Speaker 1: even know football. And Rosemond has done a phenomenal job

538
00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:51,960
Speaker 1: here in the last you know what, five six, seven

539
00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:54,920
Speaker 1: years to flip it around a Super Bowl win, even

540
00:26:55,000 --> 00:27:01,000
Speaker 1: after the the Peterson Wentz tobacle. Um. They they've flipped

541
00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:03,080
Speaker 1: it around. Man. Now, I do wonder, like, do you

542
00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:07,240
Speaker 1: think this is a favorable matchup against San Francisco, because

543
00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:11,400
Speaker 1: it just feels like everything the Eagles do defensively, hey,

544
00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:12,880
Speaker 1: we're not gonna give you the big play, will give

545
00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:14,720
Speaker 1: you to five, six, eight yards. We'll just give it

546
00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:17,040
Speaker 1: to you. We'll get home with the pass rush. Everything

547
00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:19,560
Speaker 1: it does well, it's kind of neutralized by the forty Niners,

548
00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:22,120
Speaker 1: who have a great offensive line. They've got the Yack

549
00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:25,960
Speaker 1: Kings and Auken, Debot and Kittle, and the run game

550
00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:29,880
Speaker 1: is nasty. So I just feel like the Niners kind

551
00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:33,080
Speaker 1: of match up really well with the Eagles. I mean,

552
00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:35,560
Speaker 1: I see what you're saying, but I don't think Brock

553
00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:38,520
Speaker 1: Purdy's ready for that defensive line. This defensive line has

554
00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:42,399
Speaker 1: the most sacks in the league by fifteen sacks. I mean,

555
00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:45,119
Speaker 1: asan Reddick, in my opinion, should be in the conversation

556
00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:47,600
Speaker 1: for defensive player of the year. They got pressure coming

557
00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:53,240
Speaker 1: from the interior with Fletcher Cox, Javon Hargraves at ten sacks,

558
00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:56,000
Speaker 1: Brandon Graham over ten sacks. I mean, these guys are

559
00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:58,320
Speaker 1: coming from all over the place. They're they're blitz and

560
00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:00,280
Speaker 1: that they don't even have to blame sort of getting

561
00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:03,000
Speaker 1: there with they're what they're front for. This defensive line,

562
00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:05,359
Speaker 1: I think rock Party is a young guy doesn't know

563
00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:07,760
Speaker 1: what he's in for. And you're right about the second

564
00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:09,680
Speaker 1: level of defense. I love T J. Edwards. I think

565
00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:11,399
Speaker 1: he does a great job. I think he's gonna get

566
00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:13,919
Speaker 1: paid this series a free agent. I like when they

567
00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:17,000
Speaker 1: bring into Kobe Dean Kaiser wise as as a linebacker

568
00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:20,119
Speaker 1: has been underrated, but these quarterbacks are locked down. Cornerbacks

569
00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:23,480
Speaker 1: Darius Slain, James Bradberry. He saw Bradberry did last week.

570
00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:27,640
Speaker 1: He he allowed a zero point zero zero You add

571
00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:29,840
Speaker 1: on as many zeros as you want rating against. He

572
00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:32,320
Speaker 1: didn't give up a catch, he had a pick a

573
00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:35,840
Speaker 1: PU Like come on, like, okay, none of their I

574
00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:37,879
Speaker 1: mean you might have started as their number one receiver,

575
00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:41,680
Speaker 1: you know, Richie James and whoever this Hodgens guy is, Like,

576
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:44,200
Speaker 1: they don't have good rege. They're coming off a game,

577
00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:46,560
Speaker 1: They're coming off a game or Daniel Jones had over

578
00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:49,200
Speaker 1: three hundred yards and seventy six yards rushing and they

579
00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:52,080
Speaker 1: held him to nothing. And obviously they were playing against

580
00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:54,560
Speaker 1: the worst defense in the league. Against the Vikings. But

581
00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:57,120
Speaker 1: still they're doing that the playoffs against the big team,

582
00:28:57,120 --> 00:29:00,240
Speaker 1: and philadelph Eagles showed up that the game, likeme, is

583
00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:03,640
Speaker 1: over in the first quarter games over two possessions in

584
00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:06,480
Speaker 1: Nobody thought that Giants had a chance. I mean that

585
00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:09,480
Speaker 1: crowd and they're going into Philly into the Link. You

586
00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:12,360
Speaker 1: know how crazy that place is gonna be. I couldn't

587
00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:15,680
Speaker 1: hear myself think. You know, I'm out there just hanging out. Man.

588
00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:19,600
Speaker 1: These players brought Purty his first I'm not his first,

589
00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:22,040
Speaker 1: but you're going into the Philadelphia the Link, and I

590
00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:26,120
Speaker 1: know the forty Niners great defense, but you're talking about

591
00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:29,120
Speaker 1: San Francisco has an offensive line. Who's the one team

592
00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:31,320
Speaker 1: that's got a better offensive line in the forty Niners

593
00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:37,200
Speaker 1: the Philadelphia Eagles. Did you think Trent Williams held up

594
00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:40,280
Speaker 1: okay against Michael Parsons? I mean Parsons was kind of part.

595
00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:46,080
Speaker 1: I thought he had one quarterback hit in the entire game.

596
00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:52,360
Speaker 1: You handled Parsons, Trent Williams. I do wonder you know,

597
00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:54,880
Speaker 1: this Niner's offensive line is very good and the Kyle

598
00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:57,120
Speaker 1: Shanahan scheme is not one of these like drop back

599
00:29:57,160 --> 00:30:00,000
Speaker 1: and hold the ball forever, um how what do you

600
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:02,040
Speaker 1: make of the brock Purty going on the road. Do

601
00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:05,000
Speaker 1: you think that's just a narrative because we've been you know,

602
00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:07,080
Speaker 1: a lot of people have been saying he's gonna turn

603
00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:10,520
Speaker 1: into a pumpkin against Tampa, or it's gonna happen against

604
00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:15,280
Speaker 1: the Raiders. They just they just keep shredding everyone. I've

605
00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:17,920
Speaker 1: been waiting for it. Always dominant. I mean, he's not dominant,

606
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:20,280
Speaker 1: but he's getting the job done and not making mistakes.

607
00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:22,640
Speaker 1: It's kind of the most important, right. He did enough.

608
00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:25,600
Speaker 1: And like you said, they have a great running game, McCaffrey,

609
00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:28,320
Speaker 1: they don't. They simplify the offense and they do the

610
00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:31,800
Speaker 1: basic things. I think they ran option with with four

611
00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:34,560
Speaker 1: different players. It's just a simple concept but you can

612
00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:38,200
Speaker 1: use in so many different routes and just a concept

613
00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:40,440
Speaker 1: like that that he's probably good at and he does

614
00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:43,280
Speaker 1: a great job. Man, I think parties. I was waiting

615
00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:45,200
Speaker 1: for him, like you said, to turn into that pumpkin.

616
00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:48,000
Speaker 1: I'm like, this guy can't be that good. Mr Irrelevant

617
00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:50,920
Speaker 1: seventh throw and picked no way, but he is legit.

618
00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:53,840
Speaker 1: But he's going up against a good defense and on

619
00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:56,680
Speaker 1: the on the flip side of that, Philadelphia doesn't just

620
00:30:56,680 --> 00:31:00,360
Speaker 1: have a good defense. They have a great offense, great

621
00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:06,400
Speaker 1: offensive line, great receivers. Davante Smith underrated top ten receiver

622
00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:08,840
Speaker 1: in my opinion. A J. Brown top top ten in

623
00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:12,200
Speaker 1: the league. Davante Smith DeVante Smith top ten in the league,

624
00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:16,240
Speaker 1: I think top ten in yards. A J. Brown, A J. Brown.

625
00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:19,720
Speaker 1: I'll give you top five A I like bron Davante Smith.

626
00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:23,840
Speaker 1: Is that good? I'll rattle off tight ends. Got it? Yes,

627
00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:28,640
Speaker 1: I would agree, Um alright, Cooper Cup, Justin Jefferson, Jamaar,

628
00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:33,960
Speaker 1: Chase Deebo, Samuel um Stefan Dix. Is he in there?

629
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Speaker 1: I mean, um Ceedee Lamb is he in there? I

630
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:43,360
Speaker 1: mean yeah, maybe c D. I'll give you CD. Yeah,

631
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Speaker 1: I mean I mean Davante Smith is is good? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't know. That's a lot of right there at ten. Yes,

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Speaker 1: look at the statistics. Look at what he's able to do.

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Speaker 1: The rating wind targeted. Oh I forgot tyreek kill, hold up,

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Speaker 1: hold up Tyreek cart. Yeah, he's right an Tim Terry McLaurin, Well,

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Speaker 1: here's here's the thing, Terry M. Smith. When they got

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Speaker 1: A J. Brown, Smith was able to be like the

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Speaker 1: number two. Smith is the number one last year. I mean,

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Speaker 1: they couldn't move the ball against Tampa the playoffs. So

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Speaker 1: it's like Smith is a great two, but I don't

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Speaker 1: think he's really like a number one. You got Brown

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Speaker 1: is the one. Oh my gosh, Smith is gonna eat. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but he was a rookie last year too, and you

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Speaker 1: can say that he had a great year as a rookie.

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Speaker 1: So Davante Smith, he's it's like you're wondering how he

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Speaker 1: does it. He's slender man. He's so skinny, but he's

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Speaker 1: so quick and he holds onto the ball. I mean,

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Speaker 1: the guys do reminded me a little bit of de Shawn,

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Speaker 1: but he's he can He's a little more versatile my opinion,

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Speaker 1: than to Sewan Jackson. But I mean, obviously both great players.

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Speaker 1: But I'm assuming Clay, you're taking the Eagles to beat

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Speaker 1: the Niners. You gotta score Eagles all day. I'm thinking

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Speaker 1: they're they're putting up twenty four to twenty one. Close

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Speaker 1: game in the link, But I got the Eagles com

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Speaker 1: out on the top dal and I think Dallas Goddard

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Speaker 1: is the best tight end playing in this game. Oh

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Speaker 1: that's a little shade at George Kittle, who has been

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Speaker 1: dominant for the last I don't know five years, six years.

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Speaker 1: Who you got in the other game Bengals Chiefs, which

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Speaker 1: is hard because we don't know what tupe of Homes.

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Speaker 1: I know the Bengals are favored right now, and the

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Speaker 1: money started off on the Chiefs because you know it's

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Speaker 1: the Chiefs. But watching that game against Jacksonville, Jacksonville had

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Speaker 1: a chance to win, yea. You know they had an

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Speaker 1: interception right in their lap. Christian Kirk drops the wide

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Speaker 1: open ball. I mean there's a fumble right at the

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Speaker 1: goal line. Jaguars should have been in a position to

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Speaker 1: possibly win this game. Boy Luca and that interception, Man,

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Speaker 1: if he catches Dad, it's complete different ball game. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: Mahomes was injured, and then Burrow looked good. He looked

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Speaker 1: like the best quarterback in the league that game. Obviously

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Speaker 1: with Mahomes hobbled, and they look like a total defense.

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Speaker 1: The defense look good, offense look good, total team. They

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Speaker 1: really beat the Bills from the start. I mean Burrow

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Speaker 1: went nine and nine to start the game. They had

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Speaker 1: thirty first downs. I mean they got handled, they handled

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Speaker 1: the weather, they handle everything all right, Clay, we could

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Speaker 1: wrap up with a quick question on Bachelorette, And first

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Speaker 1: of all, how why why would you go on the show? Um?

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Speaker 1: Or maybe you didn't have the choice that you were

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Speaker 1: put up for up to it or something um. And

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Speaker 1: then ultimately like was it any did you enjoy it?

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Speaker 1: Or would you would you tell people, hey, yeah, that's

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Speaker 1: not bad. I would give it a shot. So they

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Speaker 1: reached out with me, reached out to me through my agent,

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Speaker 1: and at that point, you know, it's it was, you know,

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Speaker 1: I was finished up my career. You know, you're nine,

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Speaker 1: and I'm like, dude, I don't know, I've been getting injured.

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Speaker 1: Don't know how much they got left. And I'd seen

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Speaker 1: some guys like Jesse Palmer had kind of used that

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Speaker 1: platform to get into some other stuff and like the

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Speaker 1: media or whatnot, or you know, who knows what's gonna

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Speaker 1: come from it? And I'm like, what's the worst that

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Speaker 1: could happen? You know, it's a few week things. Little

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Speaker 1: I know that I'll reinjure my wrist on the show.

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Speaker 1: But at my at my point, I was like, what's

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Speaker 1: the worst could happen? This could lead to something cool. Well,

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Speaker 1: I didn't know it was as big as it was

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Speaker 1: like that many people really knew about it. I thought, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'd be a little under the radar thing, like, you know,

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Speaker 1: go for a few weeks, see how this thing goes,

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Speaker 1: have fun with it. If you meet someone fine, you know,

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Speaker 1: single guy whatever, and um went on there, ended up

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Speaker 1: getting injured. You know which in hindsight, if I would

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Speaker 1: have known that when I've went on the show, absolutely not.

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Speaker 1: I want to know him that I would have you know,

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Speaker 1: got injured, definitely wouldn't have done it. Do you think

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Speaker 1: they asked you to play football with the guys because

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Speaker 1: you were a football player? Yes? Absolutely, Yeah, some of

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Speaker 1: these nerdy limps, shrimpy dudes. Yeah, the male models and

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Speaker 1: the Dictionary salesmen and stuff. That's what they wanted me

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Speaker 1: to do, to go in there and you know, make

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Speaker 1: these guys look bad. And so basically, you what, you

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Speaker 1: stiff arm the guy and bust your wrist up. Stiff

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Speaker 1: armed the guy and busted up my wrist that was

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Speaker 1: healing from a surgery that I had when I was

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Speaker 1: on the Saints, and uh yeah that was all she run.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, man, this thing this thing is freak broken.

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Speaker 1: Did you did you get him in like the chest

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Speaker 1: or like the face or what it was like a chest. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he's like running to me and stiff armed him in

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Speaker 1: the chest full speed, Like was he injured? No, I

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Speaker 1: just scored a touchdown and I just stiff armed, stiffed

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Speaker 1: armed him to the ground. Man. Yeah, I scored a touchdown.

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Speaker 1: But you know he didn't get hurt or anything. Was

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Speaker 1: the chick impressed? Oh yeah, she was impressed. She gave

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Speaker 1: me the rose. If you know what by the bachelorrette work,

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Speaker 1: she gives you a rose. So she gave me the rose.

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Speaker 1: She likes. She liked what she saw when I was

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Speaker 1: doing my thing, scoring the touchdowns, def arming the guys.

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Speaker 1: So at least I got that out of it. I

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Speaker 1: like it. I like it. Good stuff, all right. Clay Harbor, uh,

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Speaker 1: former TV Bachelorette contestants, also played in the NFL for

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Speaker 1: nine years. Uh at Clay, congrats on awesome career, great story,

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Speaker 1: and uh, you know, good luck and all future endeavors

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Speaker 1: media and otherwise. Yeah, I appreciate you, Jason, appreciate you

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Speaker 1: guys having me on. All right,