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I 25 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:19,960 Speaker 1: know all the other shows on Fox Sports Radio and jealous. 26 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:21,920 Speaker 1: I'm just saying they're jealous. 27 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:23,600 Speaker 2: They're not supportive. 28 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:27,479 Speaker 1: I'm just saying the jealous of our support of where 29 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:29,480 Speaker 1: the odd couple, the odd mob is. 30 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:29,840 Speaker 2: That's all. 31 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:32,600 Speaker 1: I'm not ripping on anybody else. I'm just saying what 32 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:35,080 Speaker 1: we're what odd people are doing, and we appreciate that. 33 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:35,759 Speaker 5: Uh. 34 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:39,839 Speaker 1: Just search odd Couple FSR on YouTube again, that's odd 35 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:44,119 Speaker 1: Couple fs R and be sure to subscribe and hit 36 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:47,720 Speaker 1: that button. Just search odd couple and subscribe. And they 37 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:49,800 Speaker 1: don't mind that the odd couple's name has been used 38 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 1: a couple of times. Okay, they're still fast. 39 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 2: And twelve. 40 00:01:55,320 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 1: That's different. This This odd couple is very consistent. It's 41 00:01:59,880 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 1: not something it is a brand muffin. It is it is. 42 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 1: That's a good way of looking at it, rob G. 43 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:09,440 Speaker 1: You want to be consistent or you know a brand 44 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:12,200 Speaker 1: muffin is good. Some fiber out this thing and you 45 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:17,640 Speaker 1: going regular, rob G. Jalen Brown is putting together some 46 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:20,239 Speaker 1: season for the Boston Celtics. 47 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:21,680 Speaker 2: It is hard to. 48 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:26,359 Speaker 1: Deny what he's been able to do. Considering that what 49 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:33,239 Speaker 1: people thought was Jason Tatum, their number one guy, was injured. 50 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:35,959 Speaker 1: This was supposed to be a throwaway season for the Celtics, 51 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:36,360 Speaker 1: wasn't it. 52 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:40,680 Speaker 6: We thought so, and then yesterday rolled into the Crypto 53 00:02:40,760 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 6: dot Com arena and dropped thirty two, eight and seven 54 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 6: on the Lakers in a blowout win. 55 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 3: They got blowed out, blowed. 56 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 6: The f out so much so that it had Lebron 57 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:52,680 Speaker 6: James telling anyone who would listen, you know what Jylen 58 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:55,040 Speaker 6: Brown used to be in an MVP conversation, Think a listen. 59 00:02:55,520 --> 00:03:00,360 Speaker 7: He's playing great basketball man and you can't even don't 60 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:02,959 Speaker 7: you know this whole MVP things that I don't understand 61 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:04,799 Speaker 7: why his name is not getting talked about some as well, 62 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 7: Like nobody gave them a shot to start the season. Uh, 63 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:14,680 Speaker 7: and he's happening with thirty Yeah. Yeah, yeah, it's popularity contest. 64 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:16,720 Speaker 2: Sometimes you feel like he could be. 65 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 7: I mean, that's not for me. I'm gonna be honest. 66 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:23,119 Speaker 7: I don't know the criteria MVP anymore, not for him 67 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 7: given a damn about it A long time ago. I 68 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:27,040 Speaker 7: got my own personal issues about it. 69 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:31,640 Speaker 2: So yeah, these guys to tell you why. 70 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:33,480 Speaker 4: Him and Michael Jordan should have some personal issues with it, 71 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:36,840 Speaker 4: Like Mike only got five is crazy that's fine. 72 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 2: I'm okay with that. He doesn't have to win. 73 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 4: Gotta spread the wealth if I'm the best, and then 74 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:42,080 Speaker 4: clearly I can't get it. 75 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 2: I got four it's about twelve years we knew he 76 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 2: was the best. Well, I don't know. 77 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 4: I just so they need to go with a b 78 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:52,160 Speaker 4: m v P, a b VP the best Valuable player 79 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:52,880 Speaker 4: is something naggit. 80 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 2: But it's just like the whole idea. 81 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 1: It's like he's just gonna like like, show Hey should 82 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 1: get it every year because he pictures and hits. No, 83 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 1: that's not how it goes, because that's what he automatically 84 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:05,960 Speaker 1: know somebody might actually have. 85 00:04:06,440 --> 00:04:09,080 Speaker 2: When Judge beat him, he had a better year. 86 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 1: Even he had a better year he did when. 87 00:04:14,440 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 2: That can happen. 88 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:17,960 Speaker 1: So show Hey didn't win it, But according to some people, 89 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 1: every year should win it automatically because you're doing two 90 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:21,840 Speaker 1: things and nobody else is doing it. 91 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:23,320 Speaker 2: That's not what the m v P is. 92 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 4: Nobody was better than Jordan's maybe a year or two 93 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:30,920 Speaker 4: you had a better storyline, like you could argue Barcley. Finally, Philly, 94 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:34,159 Speaker 4: he goes to the Suns. They have record. Can we 95 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:34,920 Speaker 4: get back on top? 96 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 2: Sorry? Yeah, well you don't want to brought up. 97 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 1: All right, I think Jalen Brown, I don't think he's 98 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:44,120 Speaker 1: gonna win the m v P. And I know there's 99 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 1: other people in there, but the one thing and after 100 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:49,480 Speaker 1: we me and you had that big thing about you know, 101 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:52,039 Speaker 1: Kate Cunningham and after that game in the Knicks and 102 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:54,240 Speaker 1: I'm the m v P and all that, and I'm 103 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:56,440 Speaker 1: just gonna go forget about everybody else. But if I'm 104 00:04:56,480 --> 00:05:00,880 Speaker 1: looking at these two where the Pistons are leading the 105 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:04,919 Speaker 1: East and where the Celtics are rob g their records 106 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 1: are not that far apart. 107 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:08,440 Speaker 2: Rive and a half game lead for the Pistons. 108 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 1: And the lost column is a five games lost column 109 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:11,480 Speaker 1: is six. 110 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:14,080 Speaker 2: Okay, And so they got one more win and so 111 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:18,560 Speaker 2: it's five and a half total, okay, Lebron. I don't 112 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:20,160 Speaker 2: agree with the Lebron on a lot of stuff. 113 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:23,760 Speaker 1: I agree here. And the only thing is this was 114 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:26,320 Speaker 1: supposed to be a throwaway season. Would you admit that 115 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:30,719 Speaker 1: like people thought, I didn't think they are Celtics around 116 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:34,040 Speaker 1: like they don't have a shot really because they don't 117 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:37,720 Speaker 1: have Tatum's going to be out and you know the 118 00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:40,159 Speaker 1: whole idea the Patriers weren't going to be in the mix. 119 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:43,880 Speaker 1: They went to the finals last year, right because of 120 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:48,839 Speaker 1: their star and Jalen Brown, who was the MVP when 121 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:54,080 Speaker 1: they won. They won the championship, not Jason Tatum. Jalen 122 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:58,040 Speaker 1: Brown was the MVP. And look at where they are, 123 00:05:58,200 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 1: rob G. Were you able to look at last year 124 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:04,000 Speaker 1: compared to this year. There's a three game difference without 125 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 1: Jason Tatum. That's incredible. Seriously, it tells you what kind 126 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:15,240 Speaker 1: of season averaging just under thirty he's had that kind 127 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:17,760 Speaker 1: of if you're gonna look at somebody and go, who 128 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:21,360 Speaker 1: held it together when you lost one of the best, 129 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 1: biggest stars in the NBA. Jason Tatum didn't take a 130 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:29,240 Speaker 1: mulligan on the season and go, well, you know what, 131 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:30,000 Speaker 1: we can't win. 132 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:36,119 Speaker 2: He's balling balling out. No, he is without a doubt. 133 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:39,320 Speaker 1: And all I'm saying is, and this is no slight 134 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 1: to k none, zero what Jalen has been able to 135 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:48,880 Speaker 1: do with that Celtics team only three games different from 136 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:53,800 Speaker 1: a year ago with Tatum. And yes, the Pistons had 137 00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:56,080 Speaker 1: that great run they won like thirteen in a row whatever, 138 00:06:56,640 --> 00:06:58,640 Speaker 1: And for the Celtics to be within that kind of 139 00:06:58,640 --> 00:07:06,799 Speaker 1: striking distance is incredible. He's had an MVP worthy conversation season. 140 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:09,120 Speaker 2: That's all. I'm not saying he's the MVP. 141 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 1: I'm saying he is in that conversation, and I would 142 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 1: say he's in that conversation even more, even more than 143 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:19,400 Speaker 1: Ky Cunningham. 144 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:22,120 Speaker 4: I don't agree with the even more part. I agree 145 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 4: with that he's had an amazing season. I've been saying, 146 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:27,880 Speaker 4: excuse me for a handful of years. He is the 147 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:33,280 Speaker 4: engine for that Celtics team. Jason Tatum's he's more naturally gifted, 148 00:07:33,840 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 4: but Jalen Brown has the heart. Jaylen Brown has always 149 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:38,520 Speaker 4: took the tough shots. Jalen Brown's goals for it. 150 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 2: He played. 151 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 4: He has a little bit more of that tenacity in him, 152 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:44,000 Speaker 4: night in, night out. Is the reason why sometimes when 153 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:47,400 Speaker 4: people get frustrated with Jason Tatum want more from Jason Tatum. 154 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 1: But last year, but last even the finals year, go 155 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 1: look at Jason Tatum's stats. I know Jaylen Brown won 156 00:07:55,080 --> 00:08:00,600 Speaker 1: the MVP. Jason Tatum had better stats up and down, 157 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:03,640 Speaker 1: let him in every single category. 158 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:08,440 Speaker 2: So that's that's who you lost to. Guy the better player. 159 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 1: I'm which no, but but I'm just saying to lose 160 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 1: a player who in that year when they won the championship, 161 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:17,920 Speaker 1: led the team in every statistical category. And here you 162 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:22,440 Speaker 1: are where most people wrote you off before the season started, 163 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:24,840 Speaker 1: not like, oh yeah, they're not going anywhere. 164 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 2: They were like the Eastern is wide open. 165 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:31,680 Speaker 1: The East is wide No Indiana, no Boston, it's just 166 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:36,320 Speaker 1: the Knicks to Milwaukee's not that great, like like that 167 00:08:37,160 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 1: wide open. 168 00:08:38,160 --> 00:08:40,360 Speaker 4: So I expected the Celtics to be closer to where 169 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 4: the magic in the heat are, which are seven and eight. 170 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:45,240 Speaker 4: You know, the magic are thirty and twenty six, the 171 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:46,840 Speaker 4: heater thirty one and twenty seve I didn't think they 172 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:48,280 Speaker 4: bought him out. A couple of reasons why, and I 173 00:08:48,280 --> 00:08:51,040 Speaker 4: think partly why. These reasons I'm about to say are 174 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:54,120 Speaker 4: partly what some of the reasons maybe why Jalen Brown 175 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:57,199 Speaker 4: isn't quite up there yet. He is had sustained success. 176 00:08:57,280 --> 00:08:59,520 Speaker 4: Jalen Brown's been an All Star for years now. Jalen 177 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:01,559 Speaker 4: Brown's been in all NBA guy. I believe he's been. 178 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 4: People were mad he wasn't an Olympian because he's been 179 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:06,440 Speaker 4: that good coming off of a championship as well. So 180 00:09:06,559 --> 00:09:09,240 Speaker 4: Jalen Brown has been that guy and I think, so 181 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:13,960 Speaker 4: there's no real surprise there. I think also when you 182 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:16,320 Speaker 4: look at that team, you got a six minute the 183 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:19,120 Speaker 4: Year candidate and winner and Pritchard who could win it again, 184 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:21,440 Speaker 4: who ball down had thirty something last night against the Lakers, 185 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:23,760 Speaker 4: and you have Derek White, and you have this stability. 186 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 2: You've had this coach for a few years. 187 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:28,319 Speaker 4: So I think there's a stability factor that people are 188 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:30,559 Speaker 4: counting in his favor, like, look how good this roster is. 189 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:32,480 Speaker 4: As well, they know who they are, they know their system. 190 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:35,120 Speaker 4: So I completely one thousand percent agree he needs to 191 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:38,320 Speaker 4: be in this conversation. His team is overachieving, and not 192 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:41,120 Speaker 4: to mention, here's to his credit as well. When they win, 193 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:45,439 Speaker 4: they're blowing people out. They're not like barely winning by 194 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 4: game winners a buzz beaters one or two points. They're 195 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:50,559 Speaker 4: blowing people out, so they look really good. I think 196 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:52,920 Speaker 4: the bigger thing in favor for KD a couple of things. 197 00:09:53,240 --> 00:09:56,640 Speaker 4: I think Caid is more naturally skilled, so when you 198 00:09:56,679 --> 00:09:59,840 Speaker 4: watch them, it seems easier. I think Caid, especially with 199 00:09:59,880 --> 00:10:02,720 Speaker 4: the assist factor him being the point guard and averaging 200 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:05,120 Speaker 4: almost ten assists the game along with his twenty five points, 201 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:07,840 Speaker 4: is a big factor. And I think people love the 202 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:10,960 Speaker 4: you know, we love storylines. This is the same Pistons 203 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:17,240 Speaker 4: team that two years ago won fourteen games, the year 204 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:21,040 Speaker 4: before that seventeen games. So I think the fact that 205 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:24,480 Speaker 4: we people have seen this team grow and get better. 206 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:26,880 Speaker 4: Last year they made the playoffs, right, That's what I 207 00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:28,280 Speaker 4: said two years agough, But I'm saying you. 208 00:10:28,280 --> 00:10:29,640 Speaker 2: Last should have made the playoffs. 209 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:31,599 Speaker 4: They were, But I'm saying I think this is a 210 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:33,959 Speaker 4: part of people enjoyed the evolution of Kate. But that's 211 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:35,640 Speaker 4: what the same guy that team was on the team 212 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:38,160 Speaker 4: that won fourteen forty four to your point last year, 213 00:10:38,240 --> 00:10:38,679 Speaker 4: but they were. 214 00:10:38,760 --> 00:10:41,760 Speaker 1: But how you once you, once you won forty four 215 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:44,600 Speaker 1: made the playoffs. I think the fourteen is not fact. 216 00:10:45,400 --> 00:10:47,720 Speaker 4: But I'll tell you why because I'll tell you why 217 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:50,280 Speaker 4: because we're not even near. We got another third of 218 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:52,160 Speaker 4: the season, get fourth of the season, whatever it is, 219 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:53,920 Speaker 4: and they already have forty two wins. 220 00:10:53,920 --> 00:10:55,120 Speaker 2: They have forty four all of last year. 221 00:10:55,200 --> 00:10:57,679 Speaker 4: So my point is you're seeing this team go from 222 00:10:57,679 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 4: fourteen to forty four to this year, they might end 223 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:04,440 Speaker 4: up with you know, sixty something, and I think that's 224 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:06,280 Speaker 4: gonna bowl well for Kadi's I mean, this team won 225 00:11:06,440 --> 00:11:10,200 Speaker 4: sixty something. He's putting up twenty five and ten. He's 226 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:12,280 Speaker 4: doing it in a very smooth fashion. When you watch him, 227 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:15,480 Speaker 4: he's more esthetically pleasing than Jaylen Brown. And I just 228 00:11:15,520 --> 00:11:18,040 Speaker 4: think that is going to absolutely well. When you take 229 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:20,600 Speaker 4: away a player of that ILK, I'm mad at that 230 00:11:20,840 --> 00:11:24,319 Speaker 4: and you're only three, like like you're supposed to collapse. 231 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:28,920 Speaker 4: The difference is nobody. I don't care what you say. 232 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:31,480 Speaker 4: You use like you just said they should be near Orlando. 233 00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:34,800 Speaker 4: People counted the Celtics out. Some people thought, but I 234 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:36,240 Speaker 4: don't know if they gonna make the playoffs. I don't 235 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:37,280 Speaker 4: know where they're going to be. 236 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:41,680 Speaker 1: When you lose a player of that ILK and and 237 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:44,600 Speaker 1: he's gone like like that, that's what I'm saying, Like 238 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:46,520 Speaker 1: the team could have collapsed. 239 00:11:46,920 --> 00:11:49,520 Speaker 4: I think that's a credit to and that's Brad Stevens 240 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:51,520 Speaker 4: to Missoula, Missoula. 241 00:11:51,960 --> 00:11:54,559 Speaker 2: I think I think it's Jayleen Brown and oh I'm going. 242 00:11:54,559 --> 00:11:57,920 Speaker 1: I'm saying I'm going from top down and Jaylen Brown. 243 00:11:57,960 --> 00:11:58,719 Speaker 2: Brown is the. 244 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:01,680 Speaker 4: Leader that you might hope Jason Tatum is kind of 245 00:12:01,679 --> 00:12:03,199 Speaker 4: how we talk about Draymond. You can say what you 246 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:05,199 Speaker 4: want to but he's more of a leader than Steph. 247 00:12:05,520 --> 00:12:07,400 Speaker 4: I think Jalen Brown is that leader. I think he 248 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:09,880 Speaker 4: gets that team's going. I think he makes them competing fight. 249 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:12,360 Speaker 4: And I absolutely have no problem if people want to 250 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:14,880 Speaker 4: say he needs to be considered. I don't have him 251 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:18,600 Speaker 4: above Cad. I currently don't have him above Jokic. Now 252 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:20,440 Speaker 4: I don't know if is gonna make then I think 253 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:22,440 Speaker 4: he's what three games left, four games? He can miss 254 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:24,600 Speaker 4: two games now he can only miss two more games 255 00:12:24,640 --> 00:12:26,960 Speaker 4: and he'll lose his eligibility. So I don't I think 256 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:29,040 Speaker 4: he This is why we had the conversation I said, 257 00:12:29,840 --> 00:12:32,680 Speaker 4: and obviously sg A. Why I think Kate has a 258 00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:34,960 Speaker 4: real shot is because of the elimination of these you 259 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:35,680 Speaker 4: know you're gonna lose. 260 00:12:38,679 --> 00:12:41,600 Speaker 1: The straw pole. He only had one first place vote, 261 00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:44,280 Speaker 1: that's the thing that but that was earlier and wasn't 262 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:45,120 Speaker 1: it before? 263 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:47,959 Speaker 4: But guys are drives are dropping out like there's no 264 00:12:48,360 --> 00:12:51,959 Speaker 4: that that poll was just there's but I'm saying that 265 00:12:52,400 --> 00:12:54,840 Speaker 4: wasn't ye. He's going to be the favorite because he's 266 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:57,760 Speaker 4: the raining. He's the raining Jokis is about to lose. 267 00:12:57,800 --> 00:12:59,520 Speaker 4: He can he make twenty five more games or so 268 00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:03,000 Speaker 4: and not No, that's not how to straw a pole. 269 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:03,280 Speaker 2: You don't. 270 00:13:03,320 --> 00:13:05,520 Speaker 1: You don't, you don't vote for something what you're saying, 271 00:13:05,520 --> 00:13:08,439 Speaker 1: But I'm saying something about this is the idea that 272 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:10,559 Speaker 1: this far into the season, you just talked about it, 273 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:12,800 Speaker 1: when they have forty two wins and they only have 274 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:15,520 Speaker 1: forty forty four. Last year they have forty two, and 275 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:17,640 Speaker 1: what they was able to do when they had thirteen 276 00:13:17,679 --> 00:13:20,360 Speaker 1: wins in a row at one point or whatever, that 277 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:22,559 Speaker 1: should have been enough to get more than one first 278 00:13:22,559 --> 00:13:25,640 Speaker 1: place vote. That's all I'm saying that that one first 279 00:13:25,720 --> 00:13:29,839 Speaker 1: place vote is like did somebody from Detroit vote for him? 280 00:13:29,880 --> 00:13:31,040 Speaker 2: That's what it feels like to me. 281 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:33,040 Speaker 1: I know, I'm not serious, I think, but I told 282 00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:36,560 Speaker 1: you one first place coming off that Nick game kind 283 00:13:36,559 --> 00:13:37,760 Speaker 1: of starting the season. 284 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 4: Now they get a win, they get another win. They're 285 00:13:39,760 --> 00:13:42,040 Speaker 4: doing this without during their second best player. I'm saying 286 00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:44,720 Speaker 4: last year, right, But I'm saying this is how it's 287 00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:47,240 Speaker 4: gonna go. Everybody's watching now, they know about Okay, the Pistons. 288 00:13:47,280 --> 00:13:49,959 Speaker 4: I'm seeing NFL's over now, my attentions on the NBA, 289 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:51,840 Speaker 4: and the first thing they see coming out All Star 290 00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:53,920 Speaker 4: break is him ball out show out of Madison Square 291 00:13:53,960 --> 00:13:56,480 Speaker 4: Garden and had that first thing here and everybody start, 292 00:13:56,480 --> 00:13:58,120 Speaker 4: including your boys, Steven, that I get up on. 293 00:13:58,120 --> 00:14:00,400 Speaker 2: The next it's the Pistons and they becoming that's how this. 294 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:03,800 Speaker 1: But but the guys who are the guys who are voting, 295 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:08,880 Speaker 1: they cover the league. They haven't been unfocused on the league. 296 00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:12,080 Speaker 1: You're talking about fans. I'm talking about saying you have 297 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:12,640 Speaker 1: to have statement. 298 00:14:12,679 --> 00:14:12,719 Speaker 5: Mo. 299 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:15,040 Speaker 2: We talked about this all time in Heisman, we talked about. 300 00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:19,640 Speaker 1: Talking about but you said that that people were focused 301 00:14:19,640 --> 00:14:22,680 Speaker 1: on the NFL, not NBA writers who covered the league. 302 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:27,440 Speaker 1: You have statement. Everyone is what this is a signature moment, 303 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:31,160 Speaker 1: but absolutely, but the writers covered the league the whole year. 304 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:35,520 Speaker 1: But you have signature fans. We talk about this all 305 00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:35,800 Speaker 1: the time. 306 00:14:35,880 --> 00:14:38,040 Speaker 4: You have a Heisman moment where you're right there in 307 00:14:38,080 --> 00:14:39,680 Speaker 4: the mix of things, and then you have a. 308 00:14:39,640 --> 00:14:42,360 Speaker 2: Game where you only get vote. I just can't believe 309 00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:44,880 Speaker 2: he only got what one first place and. 310 00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:47,520 Speaker 4: B showed out against you and everybody's like, well, you 311 00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:50,960 Speaker 4: know what, that's not why he won the It has 312 00:14:51,240 --> 00:14:54,880 Speaker 4: the big gets a train that's everybody knows they made 313 00:14:54,920 --> 00:14:57,440 Speaker 4: a mistake and that was the beating. You know, they 314 00:14:57,480 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 4: made a mistake when they voted it's my vote. 315 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:00,360 Speaker 3: No, no, no. 316 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:03,040 Speaker 1: They were beating the drum that they didn't want Jolkics 317 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:05,600 Speaker 1: to win again just because they didn't want him to 318 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:06,640 Speaker 1: win three without winning. 319 00:15:07,400 --> 00:15:10,240 Speaker 4: I always tell you storylines, no, no, no, and that's what 320 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:11,000 Speaker 4: I keep telling you. 321 00:15:11,040 --> 00:15:12,040 Speaker 2: It's humans voting. 322 00:15:12,120 --> 00:15:15,040 Speaker 1: The storyline is that the Celtics were supposed to be 323 00:15:15,160 --> 00:15:19,360 Speaker 1: crap without Jason. He's gonna get some votes and now 324 00:15:19,480 --> 00:15:21,680 Speaker 1: and now they're in the mix, and god forbid, if 325 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:24,480 Speaker 1: they get up or get close or tie the Pistons 326 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:26,760 Speaker 1: or whatever, people are gonna be like, wow. 327 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:28,760 Speaker 4: I'd be tough, but let me. But for him to 328 00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:31,160 Speaker 4: be for him to be a finals MVP. You said 329 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:32,120 Speaker 4: the Brig's gonna. 330 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:33,840 Speaker 1: Win another twenty games, and you said it's gonna be 331 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:35,680 Speaker 1: tough for them to make up three or four games. 332 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:38,400 Speaker 4: What they're saying, if they're six behind right now, everything 333 00:15:38,440 --> 00:15:40,280 Speaker 4: will have to go five and a half, everything five 334 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:42,000 Speaker 4: and a half, six games lost. But I'm saying everything 335 00:15:42,040 --> 00:15:44,720 Speaker 4: will have to continue to go right for the Celtics too. 336 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:47,960 Speaker 4: But Brown receives zero first or second place votes, just 337 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:50,880 Speaker 4: five third place votes, and was left off entirely on 338 00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:53,480 Speaker 4: fifty seven of the hundred ballots. So even though they're 339 00:15:53,480 --> 00:15:56,040 Speaker 4: having his great season, even though he's he's a Finals MVP, 340 00:15:56,120 --> 00:15:57,560 Speaker 4: you would think he would get more consideration. 341 00:15:57,680 --> 00:16:00,440 Speaker 2: He's kind of the guy coming in with more I think. 342 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:02,880 Speaker 1: That he has a chance. As time continues to go 343 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:05,120 Speaker 1: on and you just talk about it. They come to 344 00:16:05,320 --> 00:16:08,320 Speaker 1: LA with all their guys healthy and get a thirty 345 00:16:08,320 --> 00:16:11,480 Speaker 1: two point win, and he plays really well and people 346 00:16:11,480 --> 00:16:14,560 Speaker 1: are like, wow, look at where the Celtics are. And 347 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:17,840 Speaker 1: when people start to deep digging those numbers and go 348 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:20,800 Speaker 1: three games off from where they were a year ago. 349 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:25,200 Speaker 4: He absolutely finished in the top four. I'm with you 350 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:27,920 Speaker 4: in that. I think Kate will be one or two 351 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:29,480 Speaker 4: at the end of this season. 352 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:32,120 Speaker 2: Eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox. 353 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:36,480 Speaker 1: I think that when they vote, neither one might not 354 00:16:36,520 --> 00:16:37,560 Speaker 1: get a first place vote. 355 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:40,640 Speaker 2: It just depends on it's a joker. Well, I don't know, 356 00:16:40,960 --> 00:16:42,200 Speaker 2: just depends on where it is. 357 00:16:42,280 --> 00:16:44,520 Speaker 1: It's gonna be tough still there. I don't think it's 358 00:16:44,560 --> 00:16:46,320 Speaker 1: tough for him if he has the sixty. If he 359 00:16:46,360 --> 00:16:48,640 Speaker 1: has saying it's tough to not miss two more games. 360 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:51,400 Speaker 1: Just the way the NBA is now back to bags 361 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:53,640 Speaker 1: four out of five days or somebody. But he came 362 00:16:53,720 --> 00:16:56,520 Speaker 1: back for that reason. I mean, like when they timed 363 00:16:56,520 --> 00:16:57,440 Speaker 1: out his thing, it. 364 00:16:57,400 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 4: Was But if you're his coach and you're saying I 365 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:01,440 Speaker 4: need him for the playoffs, right, We're trying to make 366 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:04,359 Speaker 4: another championship run. And if I need him to sit tonight, 367 00:17:05,080 --> 00:17:06,359 Speaker 4: I don't I need him to sit tonight. 368 00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:06,720 Speaker 3: I'm not. 369 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:08,720 Speaker 1: I'm not convinced of that that they're going to take 370 00:17:08,760 --> 00:17:10,520 Speaker 1: him out of this, all right, eight seven seven ninety 371 00:17:10,600 --> 00:17:13,520 Speaker 1: nine one Fox eight seven seven nine nine six sixty 372 00:17:13,600 --> 00:17:17,439 Speaker 1: three sixty nine. Who is the better MVP candidate, Jalen 373 00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:21,399 Speaker 1: Brown or Key Cunningham. We'll continue next with this. It 374 00:17:21,520 --> 00:17:25,359 Speaker 1: is the odd couple. Well, we deliver insight, not just noise. 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You're 409 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:02,040 Speaker 4: on the. 410 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:04,320 Speaker 2: Couple of Fox Sports Radio. What's up, Rich? How are 411 00:19:04,359 --> 00:19:06,160 Speaker 2: you good? 412 00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:07,160 Speaker 10: How you guys doing tonight? 413 00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:08,320 Speaker 2: Thank you? 414 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:09,640 Speaker 10: Awesome? 415 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:10,160 Speaker 6: Hey. 416 00:19:10,520 --> 00:19:13,960 Speaker 10: I believe that Cade is the better candidate when you 417 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:16,160 Speaker 10: look at where the Pistons have come for the last 418 00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:18,080 Speaker 10: you know, from two seasons ago. 419 00:19:18,440 --> 00:19:20,359 Speaker 1: But it's not it's not based on it. It's not 420 00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:25,120 Speaker 1: a lifetime achievement award. I'm and not be careful with that. No, 421 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:28,080 Speaker 1: But it's about this season. It's about this season. 422 00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:31,400 Speaker 2: But if you don't think that's remember that twenty seven 423 00:19:31,480 --> 00:19:34,320 Speaker 2: game losing. It's about this season, is what it is. 424 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:38,240 Speaker 10: You just gave the same argument for the guy from 425 00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:43,760 Speaker 10: the Celtics that Calvin was given for for Cad and 426 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:45,840 Speaker 10: plus man, I mean you gotta mean you're just the 427 00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:48,760 Speaker 10: biggest Detroit hater out there. Man, I mean the barrier 428 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:50,320 Speaker 10: you do you wrong or something? 429 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:50,919 Speaker 8: What's happening? 430 00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:51,080 Speaker 4: Man? 431 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:54,600 Speaker 2: Okay? Can I can I say this to you? Run 432 00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:57,800 Speaker 2: his own business? Rich? Can I say this to you? Oh? 433 00:19:57,840 --> 00:19:58,840 Speaker 2: He went away? 434 00:19:58,840 --> 00:19:59,119 Speaker 3: All right? 435 00:19:59,119 --> 00:20:02,320 Speaker 2: Pretend I'm rich coward? Coward? Why I gotta be with coward. 436 00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:06,720 Speaker 1: Don't call back here, coward, because don't you know like 437 00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:07,440 Speaker 1: guys like that. 438 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:10,280 Speaker 2: I'm sorry, Oh, maybe you're the biggest Detroit. Maybe I'm 439 00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:13,480 Speaker 2: a big Detrait. Homer and I we talk you about 440 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:15,199 Speaker 2: telling people we have to call back and turn off 441 00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:18,000 Speaker 2: the station. Anything, anything Detroit is good. 442 00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:21,080 Speaker 1: The Tiger's going to win the Super Bowl, the World Series, 443 00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:23,960 Speaker 1: the Lion's gonna win the World Series, the Pitson's gonna 444 00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:24,880 Speaker 1: win the NBA two. 445 00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:29,639 Speaker 2: Every every team, My god, Michigan might win college basketball. 446 00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:32,199 Speaker 1: I walked there for twenty years, and you know what 447 00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:34,479 Speaker 1: they told me every year when when the Lions were 448 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:38,800 Speaker 1: playing during those twenty years, every oh, this is the year. 449 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:43,639 Speaker 2: Oh they hired Marty morning Wig. Oh they hired they 450 00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:46,440 Speaker 2: hired what's his name from from. 451 00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:49,440 Speaker 4: I'm not gonna tell you because because we didn't act 452 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:51,760 Speaker 4: like Andy Reid was walking through those doors every year. 453 00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:53,840 Speaker 2: Now, Oh, they hired Steve Mariucci. 454 00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:57,560 Speaker 4: Oh oh they Oh they hired Matt Millan. 455 00:20:57,640 --> 00:20:59,919 Speaker 1: He won four Super Bowls as a player. He knows 456 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:03,000 Speaker 1: about football. I done heard all of that. 457 00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:08,040 Speaker 2: Not a hater. I'm being realistic, is what I'm trying 458 00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:11,440 Speaker 2: to tell you. I mean, but you know some tendencies. 459 00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:14,760 Speaker 1: Ain't no tendency nothing because I'm not on board with everything, 460 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:16,840 Speaker 1: Scott tendency in North Carolina. 461 00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:19,040 Speaker 2: I'm not a fan boy. You're on the couple of 462 00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:20,720 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio. What's up, Scott? 463 00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:21,959 Speaker 7: What's up? 464 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:22,119 Speaker 5: Man? 465 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:24,760 Speaker 8: Thanks for taking our call? Yeah, I mean if all 466 00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:27,040 Speaker 8: that s feel, I still gotta go ka. I mean 467 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:30,560 Speaker 8: when you look at jay I mean Jaylen Brown, we've 468 00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:32,240 Speaker 8: been undervalue him for some time. 469 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:33,200 Speaker 5: I better. 470 00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:36,000 Speaker 2: It ain't no way, Scott. 471 00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:38,920 Speaker 1: When the season started, you thought that the Celtics would 472 00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:39,720 Speaker 1: be doing anything. 473 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:44,520 Speaker 2: It's just people were no, no, no, I'm asking you. 474 00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:46,000 Speaker 2: You thought they would be this good. 475 00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:48,760 Speaker 8: I mean I thought they had a chance. Like you 476 00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:51,880 Speaker 8: said the week, the US is always weep. I mean 477 00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:54,919 Speaker 8: for k Cunning to string them young guys together and 478 00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:57,320 Speaker 8: have them in the position they're in, I mean, that's 479 00:21:57,320 --> 00:22:00,480 Speaker 8: pretty outstanding. What's a culture like you said, that's not good. 480 00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:02,880 Speaker 8: I mean he's doing great. 481 00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:06,840 Speaker 1: I think when you I think, when you lose a 482 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:11,080 Speaker 1: player of Jason Tatum's ilk, it speaks volumes that the 483 00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:12,200 Speaker 1: team didn't come apart. 484 00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:14,840 Speaker 2: But you know what, drop one on you though. 485 00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:19,399 Speaker 4: That's all Michael Jordan retired and Scottie Pippen, Scotty Pippen 486 00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:20,000 Speaker 4: almost won. 487 00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:23,280 Speaker 1: The m v P and did almost anything. What do 488 00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:25,800 Speaker 1: you mean almost? And they lost? 489 00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:27,120 Speaker 2: They lost Michael and. 490 00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:29,560 Speaker 4: Jordan the greatest left in the next and then and 491 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:32,119 Speaker 4: the Bulls had an amazing record and the Bulls were 492 00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:35,359 Speaker 4: incredible without Jordan's they lost. Did they win or lose? 493 00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:39,720 Speaker 4: They lost? This isn't a championship conversation. What is the 494 00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:42,000 Speaker 4: commerce about the team? What does Guy and Wall do 495 00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:44,920 Speaker 4: when he went to Houston and Portland? I'm talking about 496 00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:48,600 Speaker 4: the year after Jordan left. They were incredible and he 497 00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:49,679 Speaker 4: was almost an m v P. 498 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:52,119 Speaker 2: Was he m v P? So I'm saying it was 499 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:52,760 Speaker 2: the m v P. 500 00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:55,480 Speaker 4: No, But my point is people lose people and still 501 00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:58,119 Speaker 4: good because the team when the season. 502 00:22:57,760 --> 00:23:01,520 Speaker 1: Started, everybody counted the Paces and the Celtics out and 503 00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:03,600 Speaker 1: that's why they said the East Pacers they did they 504 00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:05,600 Speaker 1: want to fight at all. That's why they said it 505 00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:07,400 Speaker 1: was going to be weak all the Easter Is week 506 00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:10,960 Speaker 1: this year because no, Boston had no got some players, right, No, 507 00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:11,760 Speaker 1: But that's the. 508 00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:13,640 Speaker 2: Conversation that went on. 509 00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:18,640 Speaker 4: Y'all understanding some Pritchards and some Darren and they got 510 00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:19,359 Speaker 4: they got a squad. 511 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:21,919 Speaker 2: That's not that's not the conversation preces. I didn't think 512 00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:22,960 Speaker 2: they'd be this good. I admit that. 513 00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:26,520 Speaker 4: All right on the way, braind Brandon, let's start over. 514 00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:29,119 Speaker 4: Listen to the Branden Feyoko is going to join his 515 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:31,920 Speaker 4: former NFL to fetch alignment with Brandon for Hoko, We're 516 00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:32,800 Speaker 4: gonna have a conversation. 517 00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:36,280 Speaker 2: Go to you too, so stupid? You know what. 518 00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:39,960 Speaker 4: Don't talk to me right now. Don't look at me, 519 00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:42,159 Speaker 4: don't talk to me, don't sit next to me. 520 00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:43,200 Speaker 2: I'll leave. 521 00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:46,439 Speaker 3: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 522 00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:49,840 Speaker 3: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio 523 00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:54,080 Speaker 3: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to 524 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:54,840 Speaker 3: listen live. 525 00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:55,720 Speaker 2: Steve, thank you. 526 00:23:55,760 --> 00:24:00,480 Speaker 4: Appreciated our couple, Rob Parker kelvin Washington on a Magic 527 00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:04,720 Speaker 4: City Monday, and we are joined on by Braiden Fejoko, 528 00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:09,320 Speaker 4: former defensive lineman and someone who put out a tweet 529 00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:11,520 Speaker 4: who was very passionate about something we're gonna have a 530 00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:12,200 Speaker 4: conversation about. 531 00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:15,640 Speaker 2: Braiden Man, appreciate you joining the show. What's happening AI 532 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:16,600 Speaker 2: you guys doing tonight? 533 00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:18,080 Speaker 5: I appreciate you guys for having. 534 00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:20,199 Speaker 2: Me No doubt man, we're doing well. We want to 535 00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:20,840 Speaker 2: get into this. 536 00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:24,360 Speaker 4: I want to start by reading your tweets, and then 537 00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:26,080 Speaker 4: I want you to just, you know, speak to what 538 00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:30,080 Speaker 4: you what you're referring to, What had you so emphatic. 539 00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:32,520 Speaker 4: I'm gonna keep it a stack. I don't care. I'm retired. 540 00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:34,560 Speaker 4: I'll say what I want. These NFL teams come out 541 00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:37,160 Speaker 4: here and post these mental health awareness posts talking about 542 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:39,360 Speaker 4: they care about players, don't be afraid to reach out, 543 00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:41,600 Speaker 4: et cetera. All they care about is what you bring 544 00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:43,560 Speaker 4: to the table when it's game day. Most players don't 545 00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:45,960 Speaker 4: want to get help inside the building of an NFL 546 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:49,119 Speaker 4: organization because they know you'll get looked at differently. You 547 00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:51,879 Speaker 4: go to a staff member, tell them you're struggling. Watch 548 00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:54,199 Speaker 4: how different they start treating you and looking at you. 549 00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:56,400 Speaker 4: I've seen in firsthand. I'll start believing that they care 550 00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:59,359 Speaker 4: about players mint players health when the owners, GM and 551 00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:02,240 Speaker 4: head coach treat everyone on the roster the same, from 552 00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:04,800 Speaker 4: the quarterback to the janitor. Until then, don't tell me 553 00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:08,040 Speaker 4: that they care because they posted some hotline number when 554 00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:10,840 Speaker 4: blank like this happens, and I'm here for all my 555 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:13,439 Speaker 4: brothers just want to talk about and shoot the blank 556 00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:14,000 Speaker 4: love y'all. 557 00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:16,960 Speaker 2: Care about y'all? What made you put that out there? 558 00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:21,320 Speaker 5: You know? First and foremost. I think for me, it's 559 00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:28,560 Speaker 5: just all right. I got just mental health ordeal and break. 560 00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:30,840 Speaker 4: Can start that last sense over your phone went out? 561 00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:31,760 Speaker 4: Can you say that part again? 562 00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:36,000 Speaker 5: Start? Can you guys hear yeah, we got you, I said. 563 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:38,760 Speaker 5: You know, for me, somebody who's playing in the NFL, 564 00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:42,119 Speaker 5: I just got very sick and fatigued on the fact 565 00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:48,080 Speaker 5: that every time something like this happens, then teams and 566 00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:52,359 Speaker 5: owners and social media accounts they start to try to 567 00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:55,080 Speaker 5: attract awareness. When this is something that goes on twenty 568 00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:57,720 Speaker 5: four to seven, three hundred and sixty five days a year, 569 00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:00,760 Speaker 5: and for somebody who's lived through it, somebody who's gone 570 00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:04,440 Speaker 5: through it, somebody who's had mental health issues who actively 571 00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:07,040 Speaker 5: goes through therapy. While I was playing, and still now 572 00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:10,080 Speaker 5: even while I'm retired, I just got sick and fed 573 00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:13,119 Speaker 5: up of it because we wait for players like the 574 00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:17,600 Speaker 5: Marshaw Neeland, the Roddale Mooores, the Doug Martins, who are 575 00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:21,399 Speaker 5: you retired and you know, have passed on to the 576 00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:24,240 Speaker 5: next life. We wait for something like this to happen 577 00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:26,400 Speaker 5: for us to be an awakening of like what can 578 00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:29,520 Speaker 5: we do as as a fraternity or what can we 579 00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:31,560 Speaker 5: do as a national football league to make sure this 580 00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:34,520 Speaker 5: is happening again. Well, for me, I'm just sick of it. 581 00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:38,400 Speaker 5: You know. They claim that there's team clinicians, which they are, 582 00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:42,159 Speaker 5: but as men, we don't feel secure within an NFL 583 00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:45,240 Speaker 5: building an organization to go and ask for help because, honestly, 584 00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:48,040 Speaker 5: and I'm speaking to facts on a bunch of players 585 00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:51,200 Speaker 5: who've been in my position, not all fifty three guys 586 00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:52,960 Speaker 5: on an NFL roster can feel they can go to 587 00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:55,040 Speaker 5: somebody within a building and feel like they can get 588 00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:57,800 Speaker 5: help and look at in a certain way where they're 589 00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:01,560 Speaker 5: respected and their job won't change based on the description 590 00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:03,879 Speaker 5: they're asking. And so that's part of the reason why 591 00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:06,440 Speaker 5: I spoke of honestly, man, I just wanted to create awareness, 592 00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:09,439 Speaker 5: and as somebody who's played in it and somebody who's been 593 00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:11,920 Speaker 5: through it, I was just fed up with it and 594 00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:14,200 Speaker 5: something meet to change it. And I'm tired of watching 595 00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:17,320 Speaker 5: the brotherhood and fraternity of NFL players feel like they 596 00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:20,880 Speaker 5: have to resort to taking their own life in situations like. 597 00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:24,680 Speaker 2: This, you know, right, it's a sad situation, and I 598 00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:30,360 Speaker 2: hear exactly the pain and what has happened in the NFL. 599 00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:33,120 Speaker 1: But I will push back, and I'm going to push 600 00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:38,840 Speaker 1: back from if you, the players, don't demand better from 601 00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:43,640 Speaker 1: the owners and the people you keep signing these cbas 602 00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:49,080 Speaker 1: with without these things and these safeguards for yourself. The 603 00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:51,360 Speaker 1: idea that you're expecting them to do it for you 604 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:53,520 Speaker 1: is just I don't understand it. You guys, and I'm 605 00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:58,680 Speaker 1: talking about football players have a terrible healthcare package, terrible 606 00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:03,320 Speaker 1: retirement package. So if you don't care about that, okay, 607 00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:06,399 Speaker 1: I'm just saying you feel me what I'm saying, okay, 608 00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:09,560 Speaker 1: because I'm saying, if you're not gonna do it, why 609 00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:10,120 Speaker 1: would they? 610 00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:12,160 Speaker 3: Why would they care? 611 00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:14,600 Speaker 1: You know what you guys voted for in the last 612 00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:19,000 Speaker 1: CBA to have left practice and smoke weed. That's what 613 00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:22,120 Speaker 1: you voted for, Not to make sure that your family, 614 00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:26,040 Speaker 1: your kids, your wife have lifetime healthcare. Go look at 615 00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:28,560 Speaker 1: the CBA and Major League Baseball and what they have. 616 00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:32,760 Speaker 1: Go look at it. It's disgraceful what the NFL has 617 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:35,480 Speaker 1: and the things you're talking about are thing that should 618 00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:39,120 Speaker 1: be in that CBA to safeguard these players. I hate 619 00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:42,720 Speaker 1: that I'm so passionate, but it's driving me crazy. I've 620 00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:46,120 Speaker 1: been covering the National Football League since nineteen eighty seven. 621 00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:49,600 Speaker 1: When is somebody there gonna wake up? And I'm talking 622 00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:52,640 Speaker 1: about the players. The owners will never do it. 623 00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:57,240 Speaker 5: Never, So you know, let me let me tell you this. 624 00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:02,200 Speaker 5: I was always a roster bubble guy. I was always 625 00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:04,360 Speaker 5: a back end roster guy where I've always fought and 626 00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:07,840 Speaker 5: clawed my way onto a roster and I was always 627 00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:10,000 Speaker 5: a guy on the back end where I got to 628 00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:13,800 Speaker 5: see a different perspective right what you're talking about right 629 00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:17,840 Speaker 5: now in regards to our NFLPA, the NFLP is constructed 630 00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:21,080 Speaker 5: from a top down hierarchy, whereas if you're not a 631 00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:24,440 Speaker 5: star player, if you're not somebody who is a pro 632 00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:26,760 Speaker 5: bowler or somebody who has looked at as a big, 633 00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:30,120 Speaker 5: multi million dollar contract guy, you won't have a voice 634 00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:32,640 Speaker 5: in our PA. So as much as like you said, 635 00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:36,680 Speaker 5: it comes down to the player speaking up, the player association, 636 00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:40,320 Speaker 5: constructed by the NFL players itself is made for the 637 00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:43,400 Speaker 5: players to fail. There's nobody on that board like a 638 00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:46,440 Speaker 5: Brandy Fooko who can speak up for the smaller fish. 639 00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:49,680 Speaker 5: The journeyman the seventy five to eighty percent of players 640 00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:52,200 Speaker 5: like me who make up the league. Right that players 641 00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:56,200 Speaker 5: Association is made for the richer hierarchy in the players. 642 00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:59,560 Speaker 5: Where how can we as the smaller tier, the ten 643 00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:02,640 Speaker 5: to twenty percent of guys that make fifty to sixty million, 644 00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:05,720 Speaker 5: the quarterbacks, the receivers, the dv the star pass rushers. 645 00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:07,560 Speaker 5: How can we keep our money? How can we make 646 00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:10,280 Speaker 5: the owners happy? That's what the problem is. I've been 647 00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:12,640 Speaker 5: if you look on my social media, I've been active 648 00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:15,960 Speaker 5: about the NFLPA, who's in charge of it, the power 649 00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:18,400 Speaker 5: of it. I've tried to voice my opinion over time. 650 00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:23,040 Speaker 5: I talked about how our own NFLPA vice president was 651 00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:25,400 Speaker 5: out in Atlanta going to strip clubs, putting it on 652 00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:28,160 Speaker 5: the nflpa's credit card. He was ordering up lampshops at 653 00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:32,440 Speaker 5: Magic City, Like that's and I'm going crazy for saying this, 654 00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:35,120 Speaker 5: but that's the type of bs we have. Since the 655 00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:37,360 Speaker 5: day I stepped into the NFL, whether I was on 656 00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:40,400 Speaker 5: the active roster and the practice squad, I've always tried 657 00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:44,000 Speaker 5: to voice my opinion and be constructive about trying to 658 00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:45,920 Speaker 5: get in a position of power to be a player 659 00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:49,040 Speaker 5: representative on the team. But the problem is they will not, 660 00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:51,760 Speaker 5: and it's just the way it is. They will not 661 00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:54,520 Speaker 5: put guys in the smart fish or the guys that 662 00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:56,240 Speaker 5: make up the bottom end of a roster in a 663 00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:58,680 Speaker 5: position of power to speak up for the pleasure Association 664 00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:00,640 Speaker 5: because at the end of the day, you tell me, 665 00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:03,320 Speaker 5: you guys have seen it. When they have player Association 666 00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:05,960 Speaker 5: presidents or player representative from the team, they're not going 667 00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:07,920 Speaker 5: to put no Brandon Folk who as a player rep 668 00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:10,520 Speaker 5: for the Pittsburgh Steelers or for the Los Angeles Chargers. 669 00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:12,200 Speaker 5: They're going to put a big name guy there. And 670 00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:14,200 Speaker 5: when it comes to it, these guys get to Maui 671 00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:16,800 Speaker 5: or get to Florida every year for the nfl PA 672 00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:21,440 Speaker 5: press retreats and conferences and meetings every year. And like 673 00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:23,920 Speaker 5: you said in the last CBA, they care more about 674 00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:26,800 Speaker 5: how much PhD levels we can pass on a on 675 00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:32,080 Speaker 5: a Druggett getting getting lifetime healthcare in a year where 676 00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:34,280 Speaker 5: the NFL was supposed to be on a back end 677 00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:36,760 Speaker 5: year during COVID where they held our funds for us B. 678 00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:40,880 Speaker 5: Maurice Smith, the old NFLPA president, doubled his salary that year. 679 00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:43,440 Speaker 5: During the COVID year, where we were supposed to be 680 00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:46,120 Speaker 5: low on funds and everybody was supposed to take a cut, 681 00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:48,480 Speaker 5: where the salary was supposed to be held right in 682 00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:52,360 Speaker 5: the reserves of the income fund before and one K funds, 683 00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:56,240 Speaker 5: the severance funds, the back pay the NFL player performance 684 00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:58,360 Speaker 5: at the end of the year while we held out 685 00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:00,880 Speaker 5: and while we took pay cuts. The guy is by 686 00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:03,520 Speaker 5: the name of De Mauristis and Lloyd and all those 687 00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:05,760 Speaker 5: other guys had saul raisers in their salary. So that's 688 00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:08,760 Speaker 5: the problem. I've been so passionate, I've been so passionate 689 00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:10,719 Speaker 5: about trying to get in the position of power. But 690 00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:12,600 Speaker 5: that's the problem is they never want the small fish 691 00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:14,880 Speaker 5: to get involved because when the small fists get involved, 692 00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:18,239 Speaker 5: it disrupts the hierarchy of the players association. When the 693 00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:22,120 Speaker 5: star players, when their opinions aren't heard. That's the problem 694 00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:22,840 Speaker 5: for the NFL. 695 00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:25,040 Speaker 4: Braidon, man, we got to enter it there. We appreciate 696 00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:27,320 Speaker 4: you man, coming on and sharing your passion again. Rest 697 00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:30,240 Speaker 4: in peace to Rondelle Moore, and we appreciate you speaking 698 00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:30,840 Speaker 4: up like you are. 699 00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:31,160 Speaker 2: Brother. 700 00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:33,720 Speaker 5: I appreciate you guys man, no doubt. 701 00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:36,880 Speaker 4: Thanks all right, good conversation there again, if you want 702 00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:38,640 Speaker 4: to follow him and his passion. It's a good bread 703 00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:41,680 Speaker 4: and at Failko No, I mean he he was chuckling 704 00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:45,800 Speaker 4: because we've probably had this conversation ten times at least 705 00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:48,480 Speaker 4: since I've been on the show, because it's something that 706 00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:50,880 Speaker 4: comes up regularly, some new common way we have to 707 00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:53,600 Speaker 4: have it. So I appreciate him giving us another opportunity 708 00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:55,320 Speaker 4: to have it here in his side of it, all right, 709 00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:59,440 Speaker 4: The Lakers obviously had a big game. We mentioned earlier, 710 00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:02,200 Speaker 4: we're talking about Jaylen Brown and things went wrong. So 711 00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:04,360 Speaker 4: and so did Lebron have some thoughts about the cor 712 00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:06,240 Speaker 4: A team. We'll tell you what they are. Next to Siakauple, 713 00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:07,040 Speaker 4: Fox Sports Radio. 714 00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:10,160 Speaker 3: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 715 00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:13,560 Speaker 3: the nation. Catch all of our shows at foxsports Radio 716 00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:17,760 Speaker 3: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to 717 00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:18,840 Speaker 3: listen live. 718 00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:23,120 Speaker 4: Fox Sports Radio. Again, thank you to Brandon Fejoko for 719 00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:26,560 Speaker 4: joining us. Really good conversation. If you missed it, or 720 00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:28,080 Speaker 4: maybe call a little bit of it, rob Gio'll have 721 00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:30,400 Speaker 4: that up. 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Rob was so happy to see it. 732 00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:04,520 Speaker 4: All right, caim, pat that's the metric. Let's test, the 733 00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:09,919 Speaker 4: litmus test. Could pat Riley get a statue? Pat Riley 734 00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:11,920 Speaker 4: can get a statue? Right, It's fine, okay. I'm just 735 00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:13,200 Speaker 4: making sure because I know you'd be mad a people 736 00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:15,520 Speaker 4: get statutes. I just think everybody get a statue. That's 737 00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:17,239 Speaker 4: so all right, pat Riley can get one. But in 738 00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:19,520 Speaker 4: the night you thought they you heard big game, James. 739 00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:21,160 Speaker 4: I don't know if you heard that, rob Gie, he 740 00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:24,080 Speaker 4: was big game. James was not happy. Yeah, no, nobody 741 00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:26,080 Speaker 4: was happy. The Lakers suck yesterday at the time they 742 00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:27,800 Speaker 4: shouldn't have suck. Shout out Ben Mallard. That's one of 743 00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:28,640 Speaker 4: his go to quotes. 744 00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:31,759 Speaker 6: Yeah, they got their doors blown off by Boston in 745 00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:35,160 Speaker 6: their home arena. After the game, both Luca and Lebron said, 746 00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:37,280 Speaker 6: and quite singly, we're not there yet as a trio, 747 00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:41,080 Speaker 6: talking specifically about the on core chemistry between Luca, Lebron 748 00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:41,880 Speaker 6: and Austin Reeves. 749 00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:43,520 Speaker 2: Interesting, well, Cup, if we get. 750 00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:46,120 Speaker 6: Your thoughts on it, guys, everyone's focusing on that trio, 751 00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:48,800 Speaker 6: and it hasn't been good minus seven point five net rating. 752 00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:53,279 Speaker 6: Lebron and Austin minus three point seven. Lebron and Luca 753 00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:58,040 Speaker 6: minus three point six also bad. However, Luca and Austin 754 00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:01,919 Speaker 6: plus thirteen point nine. So is the problem all three 755 00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:04,200 Speaker 6: of them? Or is the problem King James, Well. 756 00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:06,600 Speaker 4: The problem is all twelve of them. The team comprised 757 00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:08,680 Speaker 4: is not good enough to really compete. But when you're 758 00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:11,799 Speaker 4: talking about the big three, it's not good enough either. 759 00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:14,000 Speaker 4: And but I see the numbers on what you're saying 760 00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:16,120 Speaker 4: with Luca and Austin Reives. But Austin Reeves can't be 761 00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:17,879 Speaker 4: your second best player in the championship team. 762 00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:18,640 Speaker 2: He just can't. 763 00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:21,439 Speaker 4: He's good, He's had a really good season. I think 764 00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:22,960 Speaker 4: he's good to have on your team. I think a 765 00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:24,239 Speaker 4: lot of people would love to have him. 766 00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:24,840 Speaker 2: He can't. 767 00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:26,719 Speaker 4: You're not gonna win a championship if Austin Reez is 768 00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:29,879 Speaker 4: your second best player, especially with the way in which 769 00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:30,480 Speaker 4: Luca plays. 770 00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:30,759 Speaker 2: Let me. 771 00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:33,000 Speaker 4: Let me also add to that meaning, you can't have 772 00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:36,360 Speaker 4: two guys who Austin gives effort on defense. 773 00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:39,040 Speaker 2: He's just not good. Luca is effortless. 774 00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:41,919 Speaker 1: It's funny now, like all the Luca stuff and all 775 00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:45,360 Speaker 1: the Lakers this and that, now people watch them closely 776 00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:47,160 Speaker 1: and don't feel the same. 777 00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:49,439 Speaker 4: You know, you can't because they have to wait till 778 00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:51,160 Speaker 4: this Lebron experiment goes. 779 00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:53,799 Speaker 2: Meaning. But I'm just saying you can build a round 780 00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:55,440 Speaker 2: and still you look. 781 00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:57,480 Speaker 1: At Luca and you can see some of the stuff 782 00:35:57,520 --> 00:35:59,279 Speaker 1: that people don't like about his game. 783 00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:02,040 Speaker 2: For as much as he scores, you know what I mean. 784 00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:04,839 Speaker 4: And as talent, he's a liability on defense and he's 785 00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:08,120 Speaker 4: always and one thing I'll give you credit for, while 786 00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:11,040 Speaker 4: he's incredible, we know they can get really drop seventy 787 00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:14,560 Speaker 4: to night or something is just that good offensively. He 788 00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:18,399 Speaker 4: is an older twenty six So what was I saying 789 00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:18,960 Speaker 4: the whole time? 790 00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:21,000 Speaker 1: I said he had twenty five year old, but he 791 00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:22,400 Speaker 1: had a thirty five year old body. 792 00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:23,960 Speaker 4: So the reason why I'm going with that, where I'm 793 00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:26,319 Speaker 4: going with that is you have to have the penllability. 794 00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:28,839 Speaker 4: So pairing him with Lebron who at this point age 795 00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:31,359 Speaker 4: you can't be He's forty one with really like four 796 00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:34,520 Speaker 4: additional years on his body, and then Austin Reeves who's 797 00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:36,640 Speaker 4: been down this year, so we don't for them, they 798 00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:39,319 Speaker 4: played now what twelve games together, So they just don't 799 00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:41,160 Speaker 4: have chemistry. They don't have it, and they don't have 800 00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:44,040 Speaker 4: enough young horses to keep that energy up. So when 801 00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:47,600 Speaker 4: those guys are playing great defense, they're not moving the 802 00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:49,279 Speaker 4: ball around because they don't have any chemistry because they 803 00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:49,960 Speaker 4: haven't played together. 804 00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:52,000 Speaker 2: It's not a winning formula. 805 00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:54,160 Speaker 4: It's really good teams into Jalen Brown and the Boston 806 00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:58,600 Speaker 4: Celtics credit they're a really good team. Yeah, they just 807 00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:01,360 Speaker 4: they won't. They haven't had any chance to get chemistry. 808 00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:04,120 Speaker 4: Even the chemistry I think they think they can get. 809 00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:06,360 Speaker 4: I'm just not gonna translate on the defensive end or 810 00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:07,840 Speaker 4: the fast breakpoints or anything like. 811 00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:10,359 Speaker 1: I just think it's just an excuse to make an 812 00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:13,040 Speaker 1: excuse on why they're not playing well, and it more 813 00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:16,000 Speaker 1: is centered around what you just said. They don't play 814 00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:19,160 Speaker 1: defense and against good teams, they're not going to be 815 00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:23,120 Speaker 1: good teams when you have three statues standing out. 816 00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:24,200 Speaker 2: There, those easy points. 817 00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:26,719 Speaker 4: It's never when you play a defense against you turnovers 818 00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:28,839 Speaker 4: or just a bad shot from the team that gets 819 00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:32,719 Speaker 4: you out. Everything is Luca centric, ball centric, Lebron ball 820 00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:34,160 Speaker 4: centric or Austin. 821 00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:35,440 Speaker 2: There's no quick ball moving. 822 00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:37,480 Speaker 4: There's no fast break points that gets the crowd going, 823 00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:42,240 Speaker 4: changes the momentum. It's all slow paced. Hopefully Luca, hopefully 824 00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:44,520 Speaker 4: Lebron or hopefully Austin can get it. I thought JJ 825 00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:46,640 Speaker 4: Redick was a genius. So there's gonna be coaching the 826 00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:49,560 Speaker 4: year and all this other stuff. What happens that streets 827 00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:52,080 Speaker 4: the street says, okay, well what happened to all that? JJ 828 00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:55,480 Speaker 4: redd You know, no, but I mean a chance to play. 829 00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:58,520 Speaker 4: I'm like, why, why is everybody? Why the why of 830 00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:01,320 Speaker 4: all people does he get to chances and other chances. 831 00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:04,960 Speaker 1: I'm just saying, like everybody was all on the JJ Reddick, 832 00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:08,880 Speaker 1: and look at the season and Luca looks great. Go back, 833 00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:11,040 Speaker 1: I want people go back and look at that stuff. 834 00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:13,880 Speaker 4: There are they still fifth seed right now? Fifth in 835 00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:16,560 Speaker 4: the West. Yeah, fifth still fifth in the West. But 836 00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:18,160 Speaker 4: they got to find them. They have to find a 837 00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:20,320 Speaker 4: way one game out of third that this bunch stuff 838 00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:21,680 Speaker 4: that just made it feel good. 839 00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:23,360 Speaker 2: I mean, you can look at that and South closer, 840 00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:24,120 Speaker 2: you just don't. 841 00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:28,080 Speaker 4: They because they have to find a defensive and effort 842 00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:30,920 Speaker 4: every night and they don't have that every single night. 843 00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:33,319 Speaker 4: And that's their challenge right now, along with the fact 844 00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:35,719 Speaker 4: that they've only played twelve games together their core three, 845 00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:37,919 Speaker 4: I mean that you're trying to get that chemistry heading 846 00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:39,440 Speaker 4: into April, they better fact the 847 00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:41,720 Speaker 2: Bonus that they've only played twelve games together.