1 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:11,600 Speaker 1: This is Straight Fire with Jason McIntyre. What is up? 2 00:00:11,640 --> 00:00:16,440 Speaker 1: Straight Fire? Fam, It's me Jason McIntyre. Straight Fire for Wednesday, 3 00:00:16,560 --> 00:00:22,520 Speaker 1: October A fun day in baseball. It was the John 4 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:25,680 Speaker 1: Gruden fallout has been kind of muted. I would think 5 00:00:25,720 --> 00:00:30,760 Speaker 1: it was re Gruden just the quick resignation just snuffed 6 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:34,080 Speaker 1: out any potential for chaos and back and forth and 7 00:00:34,120 --> 00:00:36,559 Speaker 1: what have you. It just kind of blew over yesterday 8 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:39,720 Speaker 1: the John Gruden things done. And um, we do have 9 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:42,040 Speaker 1: a guest on today. We'll do a little bit more Gruden. 10 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:46,519 Speaker 1: Her name is A D. D. Kikubwala. Yes, I think 11 00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:48,800 Speaker 1: I got that correctly. I know she's an NFL network, 12 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:51,599 Speaker 1: you know where from TV and writing. I worked at 13 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 1: a newspaper with her at like my first newspaper stop 14 00:00:55,320 --> 00:00:57,320 Speaker 1: and we talked a little bit about that. She has 15 00:00:57,360 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 1: covered the Steelers for about a decade, so she knows 16 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:03,960 Speaker 1: them as as anybody. Um. Good stuff, UM, as well 17 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:07,640 Speaker 1: as some interesting Gruden takes. We disagree on a little bit. 18 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 1: She has some you'll you'll enjoy it. But first before 19 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 1: we get to the NFL, I gotta say Rob and 20 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:18,080 Speaker 1: I have been having this talk like last week about 21 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:21,759 Speaker 1: how They're really just weren't many great storylines in sports 22 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 1: right now at the at this juncture uh MLB postseason. Obviously, 23 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:28,840 Speaker 1: the games are interesting, but storyline wise, it was nothing amazing. 24 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 1: NFL was good, like the games are phenomenal. Everybody loves 25 00:01:32,440 --> 00:01:35,080 Speaker 1: the action. You guys love the NFL when we do 26 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 1: podcasts on football, but the storylines themselves didn't lend. Two 27 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 1: massive takes during the week right after the games, of course, 28 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 1: and then in steps my main man, Kyrie Irving, everybody's 29 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:54,240 Speaker 1: favorite guy, Kyrie Irving, and it was as if Kyrie 30 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:56,200 Speaker 1: has been hearing everything we've been saying about we need 31 00:01:56,240 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 1: some good stuff, like listen the Zion Williamson awesome fun, 32 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 1: love it love talking on reality. Is that still a 33 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:06,080 Speaker 1: couple of weeks years away from happening? Okay, Lebron and 34 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 1: the Lakers. That's gonna be fun experiment all the time. 35 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 1: Lots of takes there, but in terms of overall large stories, 36 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:18,080 Speaker 1: I don't know that there's one right now in sports 37 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:21,040 Speaker 1: better than Kyrie Irving. It's very divisive and I'm I'm 38 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 1: just I'm not gonna go too long on this. Uh well, 39 00:02:23,639 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 1: I'm gonna do some Kyrie and then we'll get to 40 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:31,520 Speaker 1: a d D. But the Kyrie Irving issue hit a 41 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 1: apex if you will, on Tuesday, when the Brooklyn Nets 42 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:37,519 Speaker 1: put out a statement saying, hey, we get it. We're 43 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 1: not forcing Kyrie to do anything. That being said, the 44 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:43,120 Speaker 1: way we run our team, we want a full time player, 45 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:45,960 Speaker 1: and Kyrie's either all in or he's not, and we 46 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 1: get it. It's his choice, his body, his choice, the 47 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 1: famous saying that's now ringing around uh social media, his body, 48 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 1: his choice. Um. Just a quick backstory that there's a 49 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:58,680 Speaker 1: vaccine mandate in New York City went into effect last month. 50 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 1: Anyone entering an indoor jim that includes the Brooklyn's Barclays 51 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 1: Center and MSG home of the Knicks has to have 52 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:09,880 Speaker 1: had at least one COVID shot. That's the rule vaccine mandate. 53 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 1: Every Knicks player has been vaccinated, every Nets player except 54 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:17,400 Speaker 1: Kyrie Irving. So Kyrie, then, since he doesn't have one shot, 55 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 1: would be unable to play in the forty one home 56 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:23,639 Speaker 1: games at Barclay's plus the two at MSG. And he's 57 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 1: already being fined you know, like per game three thousand 58 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:33,280 Speaker 1: for missing a game. Okay, listen, I totally understand his 59 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 1: uncompromising nature. I respect it that he's saying I'm not 60 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:41,120 Speaker 1: getting the vacs. That's fine. I respect you don't want it, 61 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:43,600 Speaker 1: your body, your choice, you fine, go for it, do that. 62 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:47,840 Speaker 1: But he plays a team sport. Guys, there's no way 63 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:49,839 Speaker 1: around it. If you were a tennis player, fine, dude, Hey, 64 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 1: whatever you want to you don't want to play Dennis 65 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:55,880 Speaker 1: because of the rules of the vaccine. Fine, don't play golf. 66 00:03:56,440 --> 00:04:01,680 Speaker 1: Totally get it. Individual sports. He's on an NBA basketball team. 67 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 1: He is the point guard of the team. He put 68 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:09,120 Speaker 1: this damn team together. People, he was winning in Boston. 69 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:11,040 Speaker 1: He said I don't want to play for Brad Stevens. That, 70 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 1: by the way, a couple of years after he said 71 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 1: I don't want to play with Lebron. Okay, we knew 72 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:17,200 Speaker 1: he was crazy back then. I got on his case. 73 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:19,160 Speaker 1: At the time. A lot of people defended him over 74 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:22,279 Speaker 1: dud carry so good at your needle run, Okay, sure 75 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:24,920 Speaker 1: got it. He does need Brad Stevens. Brad Stevens saying 76 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:28,240 Speaker 1: Brad Stevens over right, Okay, fine, builds a team, recruits 77 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:34,719 Speaker 1: Kevin Durant from the Warriors to Brooklyn. He put this 78 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 1: thing together he got the coach Kenny Atkinson fired. Go 79 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:41,520 Speaker 1: look it up. Kenny Atkinson wouldn't start Kyrie's guy DeAndre 80 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 1: Jordan's and Kyrie eventually just wore on him more on 81 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:47,680 Speaker 1: a more, wore down everybody and got Kenny Atkinson fired. 82 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:50,920 Speaker 1: He gets everything he wants, he ain't getting his way 83 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 1: this time, and the Brooklyn Nets drew a firm line 84 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 1: and said, you know what, but we don't want a 85 00:04:56,320 --> 00:04:58,479 Speaker 1: part time player, so we're gonna pay you for the 86 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:00,800 Speaker 1: road games you get paid for that you don't, we 87 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:05,039 Speaker 1: don't We're not going to play you in. But otherwise, 88 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 1: you know, we're waiting for you to get the vacs. 89 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 1: And I just want to be clear because a lot 90 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 1: of people on online and I know, I know this 91 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 1: keeps coming up, but you know, even the conversations I've 92 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:17,680 Speaker 1: had in real life person to person with people over Kyrie, 93 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:21,720 Speaker 1: everyone I talked to seems normal about it. Yeah, get 94 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:24,359 Speaker 1: the vacs and play, or you don't get it and 95 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:26,240 Speaker 1: you don't play. Fine, it's not that difficult, it's not 96 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:29,680 Speaker 1: that challenging, but at that point, it's like hold up. 97 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 1: Kyrie recruited Kevin Durant. Kevin Durant could have stayed with 98 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:37,599 Speaker 1: Steph Curry and left to play with Kyrie Irving. Flat earth, 99 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:42,279 Speaker 1: Kyrie Irving, who's been a problem everywhere. Kevin Durant put 100 00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:44,240 Speaker 1: his trust in Kyrie Irving, and now Kyrie Irving just 101 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:47,799 Speaker 1: saying yeah, I'm not gonna play. And oh, by the way, 102 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 1: this went unnoticed over the weekend because remember there was 103 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 1: boxing MLB postseason, uh, college football, NFL. So Kyrie practiced 104 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 1: on Saturday and Sunday in Brooklyn with the Nets, but 105 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 1: then he did not make the trip to Philly for 106 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 1: their preseason game Monday night. It's unclear why, uh, you 107 00:06:06,839 --> 00:06:10,839 Speaker 1: couldn't play without the vaccine Philly like that just has 108 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:13,840 Speaker 1: not been explained. Again, this is Kyrie Irving just doing 109 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 1: whatever the hell he wants, and the Nets pretty much 110 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:17,520 Speaker 1: have had enough. They're fed up there, Like, listen, what 111 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:19,480 Speaker 1: we're not gonna do. We're burning We're trying to build 112 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:23,039 Speaker 1: a culture, were trying to build a winning team. It's 113 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:25,200 Speaker 1: just not gonna work if you're not here all the time. 114 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:28,800 Speaker 1: And I don't know how anybody could argue that. It 115 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:34,200 Speaker 1: is almost impossible to put together a team. Remember last 116 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 1: year the Big Three never almost never played together. So 117 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:42,720 Speaker 1: few minutes together that when it came to the postseason, 118 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:46,599 Speaker 1: they had like maybe three games together, or maybe it 119 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:49,840 Speaker 1: was four handful of minutes against the Bucks, and then 120 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:53,680 Speaker 1: Kyrie gets hurt and it's like, oh my gosh, these 121 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:55,239 Speaker 1: got how how are they going to get to play together? 122 00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:57,160 Speaker 1: You can't just work it out on the fly. You 123 00:06:57,200 --> 00:06:59,800 Speaker 1: can't plan for Okay, games one and two, we've got 124 00:06:59,839 --> 00:07:01,320 Speaker 1: him Kyrie on our team, and then we don't have 125 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:03,600 Speaker 1: him for games three and four. You know, I I 126 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:06,719 Speaker 1: saw this quote on a bumper sticker. Once plans are useless, 127 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:11,760 Speaker 1: planning is invaluable. I think it kind of applies to 128 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 1: the Nets, like you essentially have to have what plan 129 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:20,400 Speaker 1: for two different rosters with it without Kyrie. Really, let's 130 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:24,320 Speaker 1: just asking too much of anybody, you know, it just 131 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 1: doesn't make sense. I I I would a hundred thousand 132 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 1: percent agree with what the Nets are doing. And I 133 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:32,640 Speaker 1: texted a couple of people who are in the NBA. 134 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:35,160 Speaker 1: One of them as a trainer who was up at 135 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:37,760 Speaker 1: the momb Academy with Kadi and Kyrie. And you know, 136 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:39,720 Speaker 1: this guy is a fan of Kyrie. He said, he's 137 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:42,840 Speaker 1: a normal cool guy. Um, but his feeling is Yeah, 138 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:45,920 Speaker 1: he ain't gonna get it. He's sticking to his guns 139 00:07:45,960 --> 00:07:49,280 Speaker 1: here and by all accounts, Kyrie is just not going 140 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:52,360 Speaker 1: to do it. Now he did and this is total 141 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:56,920 Speaker 1: chicken shit. Where Kyrie loses anybody an ounce of credibility 142 00:07:56,920 --> 00:08:00,360 Speaker 1: that he has. This is just total embarrassing from Kyrie Irving. 143 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 1: He went to a reporter and put out that he 144 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:08,960 Speaker 1: doesn't really care about the money. He is about the fame. 145 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:11,640 Speaker 1: He's principled. He wants to fight the good fight for 146 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:14,880 Speaker 1: the little people. Yes, this is this is the real 147 00:08:14,920 --> 00:08:19,880 Speaker 1: thing that Kyrie Irving said. Kyrie Irving through Shams. You 148 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:23,840 Speaker 1: guys know Shams. He was at uh Yahoo and now 149 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 1: he's at like a bunch of other places. I I 150 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 1: know Shams, I know people close to him. I don't. 151 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 1: I have never personally spoken to him. This is where 152 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 1: Kyrie loses anybody who respected him. In my belief, Kyrie 153 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:42,959 Speaker 1: wants to be the voice for the voiceless. A source said, 154 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:46,760 Speaker 1: Kyrie Irving, who wants to be a voice for the voiceless, 155 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:50,400 Speaker 1: won't even put his name on a quote saying that, 156 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:55,400 Speaker 1: like really that that's that's the guy who's gonna be 157 00:08:55,400 --> 00:08:59,320 Speaker 1: a leader. Kyrie Irving wants to be the voice for 158 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:01,640 Speaker 1: the voiceless. I will fight for you, Mr bus driver, 159 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:04,239 Speaker 1: so you don't have to get the vaccine. Mr zookeeper, 160 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:07,360 Speaker 1: I got your back. Like it's just such a crock 161 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:10,600 Speaker 1: of garbage. He has not in any way, shape or 162 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:15,080 Speaker 1: form expressed that at all anywhere. But let me just 163 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:17,240 Speaker 1: put it out through a reporter because he's got two 164 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:19,840 Speaker 1: million followers, and I'll use him as a as a 165 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:22,920 Speaker 1: as a test bunny to see what the reaction is. Like. 166 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:27,160 Speaker 1: It's just I'm embarrassed for Kyrie Irving. I don't know 167 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:31,200 Speaker 1: who's giving him advice. And yes, I know there's gonna 168 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:33,240 Speaker 1: be Peo people who listen to this and are upset 169 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:35,439 Speaker 1: that well, Jason, why are you trusting the government on 170 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:37,760 Speaker 1: the vaccine? Yeah? Yeah, guys, I saw billions. Men have 171 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:41,440 Speaker 1: always been dishonest. Governments have always been corrupt. I get it. 172 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:44,160 Speaker 1: Somebody sent me a piece of really smart guy like 173 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:46,600 Speaker 1: I've talked to. He might have been on here once, 174 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:50,120 Speaker 1: Ryan Glasbigel work with him at the Big League. Pretty 175 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:52,199 Speaker 1: intelligent guy. He sent me a piece. You guys need 176 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:56,679 Speaker 1: to google this. It's fromthing something called tablet magazine. The 177 00:09:56,800 --> 00:10:03,959 Speaker 1: Plague of the poor. A danger there is covid era, authority, authoritarianism. Gosh, 178 00:10:04,200 --> 00:10:06,920 Speaker 1: it's embarrassing. I can't say that targets the most vulnerable 179 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:10,920 Speaker 1: and threatens the foundation of a democratic society. It's an 180 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:12,760 Speaker 1: interesting read. I said it to a bunch of really 181 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:15,480 Speaker 1: smart people who are smarter than me. I listen, I 182 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:17,800 Speaker 1: know my limitations. I said it to people who are 183 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:20,520 Speaker 1: smarter than me, seeking feedback, and once I get it, 184 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:23,400 Speaker 1: I'll let you guys know what the smart people say. 185 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:26,680 Speaker 1: These are like doctors and hedge fund guys who really 186 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:31,760 Speaker 1: know their stuff. I read it gave me pause. Uh. 187 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:34,719 Speaker 1: You know, the author kept referring to all these studies 188 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:37,240 Speaker 1: left and right, and I didn't bother click any of 189 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:40,880 Speaker 1: the links to the studies because you know, like again, 190 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:44,120 Speaker 1: time is valuable. UM, I'm sorry I didn't click on 191 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:46,720 Speaker 1: all the studies that the guy mentioned. UM. I'll leave 192 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:49,920 Speaker 1: that to the doctors who I trust. Um. I just 193 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:53,600 Speaker 1: I get it. Like if you're thirty and you don't 194 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:55,720 Speaker 1: want to get the vaccine for whatever reason, Like I 195 00:10:55,760 --> 00:10:59,199 Speaker 1: guess I can understand that I don't totally see eye 196 00:10:59,240 --> 00:11:01,280 Speaker 1: to eye with you. That's okay, we can disagree. I 197 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:04,240 Speaker 1: know a handful of people who have not gotten the vaccine, 198 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:09,080 Speaker 1: and I talked to them. We're normal friends, Like it's fine, um, 199 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:13,360 Speaker 1: But Kyrie Irving is part of a team. The Brooklyn 200 00:11:13,400 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 1: Nets need him all the time, and the rules say 201 00:11:18,559 --> 00:11:20,440 Speaker 1: he's got to get enough. The rules change, you bring 202 00:11:20,480 --> 00:11:22,679 Speaker 1: them all board. But folks, I don't know how Kyrie 203 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:26,199 Speaker 1: Irving is long for the Nets or the NBA, because 204 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:29,600 Speaker 1: if any other team was interested in and wouldn't they 205 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:31,960 Speaker 1: already already be like, hey, Nets, we'll we'll take Kyrie. 206 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:35,240 Speaker 1: Who wants who wants to get in bed with that? Like, 207 00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:38,520 Speaker 1: I know teams are a star for a star, but 208 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:41,520 Speaker 1: what are you getting? Are you getting a guy who's 209 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:43,360 Speaker 1: just gonna show up and do whatever he wants, whenever 210 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:46,880 Speaker 1: he wants. How can you have any faith at all 211 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:48,600 Speaker 1: in Kyrie Irving? By the way, go look at his 212 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:51,720 Speaker 1: postseason track record. He's been hurt almost every year in 213 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:54,199 Speaker 1: the playoffs, almost every year of the last five years. 214 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:58,600 Speaker 1: Look it up in Cleveland, in Boston, last year, in Brooklyn. 215 00:11:58,640 --> 00:12:01,520 Speaker 1: He gets hurt every playoffs. He's a he's a tiny guy, 216 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:05,240 Speaker 1: So I know this is probably gonna come out really 217 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:08,880 Speaker 1: harsh on Kyrie Irving. But it just from my perspective, 218 00:12:08,920 --> 00:12:11,440 Speaker 1: the whole thing is really really an awful look for him, 219 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:13,360 Speaker 1: and he's kind of boxed himself into a corner because 220 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:15,719 Speaker 1: if he turns tail and gets the vaccine, now, all 221 00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:18,920 Speaker 1: the people who Kyrie's right, I stand with Kyrie. Yeah, 222 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:21,480 Speaker 1: by his sneakers, I get it, they're gonna be like, dude, 223 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:26,079 Speaker 1: what why'd you cave? And clearly he cares what people 224 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:31,200 Speaker 1: think about him. Clearly he does, and I don't see 225 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:33,120 Speaker 1: him doing that. So we are looking at a bit 226 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:36,520 Speaker 1: of a standoff, and Um, Kevin Durant, all I'm gonna 227 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:40,319 Speaker 1: say is, I can't believe you left Steph Curry for 228 00:12:40,440 --> 00:12:43,360 Speaker 1: Kyrie Irving. And with that, let's pivot to the NFL 229 00:12:43,559 --> 00:12:46,880 Speaker 1: and today's guest a d d Ki Kabala from the 230 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:51,520 Speaker 1: NFL network. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk 231 00:12:51,559 --> 00:12:54,280 Speaker 1: lineup in the nation. Catch all of our shows at 232 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:57,680 Speaker 1: Fox sports Radio dot com and within the I Heart 233 00:12:57,760 --> 00:13:04,319 Speaker 1: Radio app search f s R to listen live. Jason 234 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:07,400 Speaker 1: likes to think he knows everything when it comes to sports. 235 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:10,920 Speaker 1: I know what sports dance want, but for everything he doesn't, 236 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:14,240 Speaker 1: he knows a guy who does. Let's just say I 237 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:18,040 Speaker 1: know a guy who knows a guy who knows another guy. 238 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:20,520 Speaker 1: All right, let's welcome into straight fire a guest who 239 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:23,720 Speaker 1: I've actually known since I started out in the industry. 240 00:13:23,760 --> 00:13:27,600 Speaker 1: I got to a newspaper in New Jersey in Well, 241 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:29,760 Speaker 1: it's gonna show how old I am, probably like two 242 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:33,320 Speaker 1: thousand and two thousand, maybe two thousand one. And then 243 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:35,960 Speaker 1: this girl arrives who's all young, and every guy in 244 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:38,680 Speaker 1: the departments like, oh man, she's gonna she's definitely gonna 245 00:13:38,679 --> 00:13:41,560 Speaker 1: get better, better assignments than us, And she was super nice. 246 00:13:41,600 --> 00:13:43,640 Speaker 1: We got along. I still know where to this day. 247 00:13:43,679 --> 00:13:46,600 Speaker 1: A d d Kin kub Wala from NFL Network and 248 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:50,400 Speaker 1: she owes the pod uh called NFL explained with mike 249 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:52,679 Speaker 1: Y m add how are you well? I want to 250 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:55,160 Speaker 1: go back? Okay. So the guys were saying, she's definitely 251 00:13:55,200 --> 00:13:59,320 Speaker 1: going to get better assignments because I was earl or 252 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:01,760 Speaker 1: because he had credentials coming out. I think you were 253 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:04,200 Speaker 1: right out of college, right, No, Actually, I was at 254 00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 1: the San Antonio Express News first, so I had covered 255 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:09,720 Speaker 1: high school football and a little you know, small college 256 00:14:09,920 --> 00:14:12,679 Speaker 1: football and things like that. So now I know what 257 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:15,680 Speaker 1: it was. You had worked with the sports editor in 258 00:14:15,760 --> 00:14:20,160 Speaker 1: San Antonio, right, Yes, that's what Mr Mitch Kruegel, who 259 00:14:20,160 --> 00:14:23,000 Speaker 1: nobody cares who that name is, But I do he 260 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:29,800 Speaker 1: spoken by wedding Jason what he is still? Oh? Yes, yes, yes, yes. 261 00:14:30,040 --> 00:14:31,840 Speaker 1: First of all, I was supposed to be a lawyer. 262 00:14:31,880 --> 00:14:34,360 Speaker 1: If it weren't for Mitch Krugel and my job interview 263 00:14:34,640 --> 00:14:37,520 Speaker 1: for the San Antonio Express News, my life would be 264 00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:42,640 Speaker 1: totally different. It was interview. So you guys are still friendly. 265 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:46,720 Speaker 1: We are. What does he do now? Um? He runs 266 00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:49,080 Speaker 1: his own business. Dear listeners really want to hear that. 267 00:14:49,240 --> 00:14:52,560 Speaker 1: They don't, but I do, and it doesn't matter. We'll 268 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:55,240 Speaker 1: get to the Steelers and Jon Gruden shortly. Anyways. What 269 00:14:55,280 --> 00:14:59,000 Speaker 1: does he do? Uh? Mitch runs a publishing company and 270 00:14:59,080 --> 00:15:03,600 Speaker 1: he publishes is um several publications, one of which is 271 00:15:03,800 --> 00:15:08,280 Speaker 1: a cops magazine and Jay Cops. If you're in New Jersey, 272 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:12,160 Speaker 1: and I believe he's got a version in Chicago, Florida. 273 00:15:12,200 --> 00:15:14,480 Speaker 1: Maybe you're putting me on the spot right now because 274 00:15:14,520 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 1: so much for me being really apprised of all the details. 275 00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:18,720 Speaker 1: That's the truth of the matter is is when we talk, 276 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:24,360 Speaker 1: we don't necessarily talk about the logistics. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 277 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:26,480 Speaker 1: for sure. Anyways, Wow, So anyways, I've known a d 278 00:15:26,560 --> 00:15:28,600 Speaker 1: D for a long time. She's a great reporter, and 279 00:15:28,640 --> 00:15:30,440 Speaker 1: then you know, we happen to share the same agent 280 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:34,000 Speaker 1: and she's at NFL Network and just so we know, 281 00:15:34,120 --> 00:15:36,320 Speaker 1: let me interrupt really quickly, even though it's so rude, 282 00:15:36,640 --> 00:15:38,920 Speaker 1: I did just text a picture of you to our 283 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:43,120 Speaker 1: mutual agent. You know what he wrote back? Love him? 284 00:15:43,240 --> 00:15:47,080 Speaker 1: Oh God, what do you mean? Like, I guess he's 285 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:50,680 Speaker 1: he's got to be careful with what he texted in 286 00:15:50,680 --> 00:15:54,160 Speaker 1: in if he can't say love you, I mean that 287 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:57,480 Speaker 1: text may come up add at some point. Um. So 288 00:15:57,800 --> 00:16:00,120 Speaker 1: it just so happens that you are in Pittsburgh and 289 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:02,680 Speaker 1: Steelers have a massive game this week. Yes, we'll get 290 00:16:02,680 --> 00:16:05,360 Speaker 1: to John Gruden. I know people care, but you've covered 291 00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:08,320 Speaker 1: the Steelers for a while, and I feel like this 292 00:16:08,320 --> 00:16:10,520 Speaker 1: whole pot is about aging me right now, Isn't it 293 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:13,120 Speaker 1: like this is when a dad started and this is 294 00:16:13,120 --> 00:16:16,400 Speaker 1: how many years since I were you basically been covering 295 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:19,560 Speaker 1: Tomlin most of his careers at coach in Pittsburgh, right, No, no, 296 00:16:19,560 --> 00:16:23,280 Speaker 1: no, no no, I've been here for nine years, I think, 297 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:28,520 Speaker 1: so he definitely precedes me. But this feels like it's 298 00:16:28,560 --> 00:16:32,120 Speaker 1: the worst team. Maybe Pittsburgh has the offensive lines, new 299 00:16:32,240 --> 00:16:37,320 Speaker 1: Ben cannot move um, the injuries aren't starting to mount. 300 00:16:37,360 --> 00:16:40,320 Speaker 1: Juju Smith's now out for the season, but that win 301 00:16:40,360 --> 00:16:42,560 Speaker 1: over Denver was like, Oh, maybe they've turned the corner. 302 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:44,800 Speaker 1: I'm just curious where you are on Pittsburgh getting into 303 00:16:44,800 --> 00:16:47,320 Speaker 1: the Seattle game where they're kind of big favorites against 304 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:50,680 Speaker 1: Geno Smith. Okay, so from the beginning, I have felt 305 00:16:50,680 --> 00:16:53,640 Speaker 1: that the Steelers have a potential number one defense, such 306 00:16:53,760 --> 00:16:57,120 Speaker 1: that I'm playing fantasy football for the first time ever 307 00:16:57,680 --> 00:17:01,040 Speaker 1: and I drafted the Steelers defense too early according to 308 00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:05,800 Speaker 1: Michael Fabiano, But I did anyway, because who know, not 309 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:08,200 Speaker 1: the sixth round, but you know, it was maybe before 310 00:17:08,280 --> 00:17:11,840 Speaker 1: ten anyway, and week one it served me really well 311 00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:14,119 Speaker 1: that Steelers defense did some great things for me against 312 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:19,880 Speaker 1: teams touchdown, yes, right, so the defense is indeed elite. 313 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:22,639 Speaker 1: You love the way they play. It hurt that t 314 00:17:22,800 --> 00:17:25,600 Speaker 1: J walk out or heard early that Tyson a la 315 00:17:25,800 --> 00:17:27,480 Speaker 1: Lu who's a name that not a lot of people 316 00:17:27,520 --> 00:17:29,720 Speaker 1: know but really is a true run stuffer in the 317 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:32,679 Speaker 1: middle and helps free up Kim Hayward and t J 318 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:35,720 Speaker 1: Watt and whoever the other outside linebacker is be at 319 00:17:35,720 --> 00:17:39,640 Speaker 1: Alex Highsmith or Melvin Ingram to do what they do. So, yes, 320 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:42,960 Speaker 1: there have been some injuries, but this is still a great, great, 321 00:17:43,040 --> 00:17:47,479 Speaker 1: great turnover inducing aggressive defense. And what was so special 322 00:17:47,520 --> 00:17:50,240 Speaker 1: about it is that week one they were able to 323 00:17:50,280 --> 00:17:53,080 Speaker 1: get pressure without blitzing, and a year ago the Steelers 324 00:17:53,080 --> 00:17:55,160 Speaker 1: blitz just about more than anybody. So if you can 325 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:57,520 Speaker 1: bring pressure as we saw Tampa Bay do a year ago, 326 00:17:57,560 --> 00:17:59,840 Speaker 1: if you can bring pressure with just your front the 327 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:02,600 Speaker 1: you're in great shape. So the d events is really 328 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:07,480 Speaker 1: really good. Yeah. The problem is that the Steelers said 329 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:10,199 Speaker 1: this offseason that they desperately wanted to be able to 330 00:18:10,280 --> 00:18:12,359 Speaker 1: run the ball again. They wanted to go back to 331 00:18:12,400 --> 00:18:16,280 Speaker 1: their power running roots. They recommitted to a thirty nine 332 00:18:16,320 --> 00:18:20,119 Speaker 1: year old quarterback who is not that huge guy that 333 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:22,040 Speaker 1: extends plays. I mean, he's still a huge guy, but 334 00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:24,399 Speaker 1: he's not the guy that's running around and extending plays 335 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:27,760 Speaker 1: and you know, eight nine seconds and suddenly making some 336 00:18:27,880 --> 00:18:30,320 Speaker 1: magic hap and downfield. This is a guy who's thirty 337 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:32,080 Speaker 1: nine years old and he just can't move quite the 338 00:18:32,160 --> 00:18:35,439 Speaker 1: same way. So if you want a run game and 339 00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:38,080 Speaker 1: you want to protect your thirty nine year old quarterback, 340 00:18:38,480 --> 00:18:43,800 Speaker 1: perhaps you should invest a lot in your offensive line. 341 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:46,720 Speaker 1: That's not what the Steelers did. They ripped up their 342 00:18:46,720 --> 00:18:50,240 Speaker 1: offensive line, and they plugged in a third round pick 343 00:18:50,280 --> 00:18:53,280 Speaker 1: at center who really should probably be playing guard instead 344 00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:55,320 Speaker 1: of center. And they plugged in a fourth round pick 345 00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:56,679 Speaker 1: or a fifth round pick. I don't even know what 346 00:18:56,720 --> 00:18:59,879 Speaker 1: Dan Moore is at left tackle. And they've done all 347 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:03,720 Speaker 1: this shuffling, and they also just elevated their assistant offensive 348 00:19:03,720 --> 00:19:05,760 Speaker 1: line coaches opposed to going out there and getting a 349 00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:08,080 Speaker 1: guy like a Mike mun Chack or a Bill Callahan. 350 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:13,840 Speaker 1: And the starting five offensive lineman played a grand total 351 00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:17,400 Speaker 1: of forty three snaps together in the preseason. So you've 352 00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:21,080 Speaker 1: got five new guys playing different positions together for the 353 00:19:21,119 --> 00:19:24,679 Speaker 1: first time, trying to create some sort of cohesion in chemistry, 354 00:19:24,920 --> 00:19:27,760 Speaker 1: and oh, by the way, learn a new run blocking 355 00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:30,200 Speaker 1: and pass blocking scheme, and oh, by the way, learn 356 00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:33,959 Speaker 1: a brand new offense. Obviously, you know they were going 357 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:36,040 Speaker 1: to be growing pains. So that so through the first 358 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:38,960 Speaker 1: four games, it was are these growing pains or do 359 00:19:39,040 --> 00:19:43,200 Speaker 1: they just suck? And now last week they were significantly better. 360 00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:45,399 Speaker 1: I'm not willing to say that like, oh, this is 361 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:48,520 Speaker 1: the Browns offensive line or something, but they were better. 362 00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:53,120 Speaker 1: And so if the Steelers can indeed run the ball, 363 00:19:53,440 --> 00:19:57,480 Speaker 1: if Ben Roethlisberger is not counted on to throw the 364 00:19:57,480 --> 00:19:59,439 Speaker 1: ball fifty times a game, and you just get a 365 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:01,640 Speaker 1: good play out of him, you know here and there, 366 00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:05,200 Speaker 1: and that he manages the game properly and doesn't turn 367 00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:07,280 Speaker 1: the ball over, I do think that this is a 368 00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:10,320 Speaker 1: team that can compete. And I'll take you back to 369 00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:12,280 Speaker 1: the two thousand to Tampa Bay Bucks. They had a 370 00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:15,480 Speaker 1: number one defense and they had a fine offense. Who's 371 00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:18,160 Speaker 1: the quarterback Brad Johnson on that team? I mean, whatever, 372 00:20:18,359 --> 00:20:22,280 Speaker 1: I don't even know. That's the point. I mean that offense. 373 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:26,040 Speaker 1: I think that they barely averaged two hundred and fifty 374 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:29,920 Speaker 1: passing yards, maybe a hundred rushing yards, but they just 375 00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:33,000 Speaker 1: did enough and it was good enough to win a 376 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:37,480 Speaker 1: Super Bowl. Um. So you know, Seattle this week, you 377 00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:39,640 Speaker 1: never want to call any game like a must win, 378 00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:43,119 Speaker 1: but the Browns are very very good. Uh the bounds 379 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:45,240 Speaker 1: next week. The Bengals already beat him once. The Bengals 380 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:47,600 Speaker 1: seem like they're gonna be feisty. You can never really 381 00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:50,680 Speaker 1: count out the Ravens, who pulled off another miracle win. 382 00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:54,000 Speaker 1: So I don't know, like they are in the basement 383 00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:57,679 Speaker 1: of the division right, but correct, the win over Denver 384 00:20:57,880 --> 00:21:00,080 Speaker 1: may have changed the trajectory of the team. Is that 385 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:02,119 Speaker 1: too big of a statement to say? You know, I 386 00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:04,480 Speaker 1: think right now, Jason, it's one win, it's one week, 387 00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:06,879 Speaker 1: it's one win. Let's see what happens Sunday night. It is. 388 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:10,440 Speaker 1: You know, you never wish an injury upon anybody. It's 389 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:13,280 Speaker 1: a shame that Russell Wilson won't be playing, but of course, 390 00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:15,840 Speaker 1: you know, it's a different look when you've got Gino 391 00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:18,840 Speaker 1: Smith as opposed to Russell Wilson that you're facing. And oh, 392 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:21,040 Speaker 1: by the way, the Seattle defense hasn't exactly been the 393 00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:23,639 Speaker 1: Seattle defense that we all. You know, I could have 394 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:25,720 Speaker 1: gotten to know. Wait, this is the Sunday night game. 395 00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:27,960 Speaker 1: I didn't even realize that. No, no, no, it's primetime. 396 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:31,160 Speaker 1: Do you know Smith in primetime? Again, as a Jets fan, 397 00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:33,520 Speaker 1: I do not wish that on any NFL fans. So 398 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:37,400 Speaker 1: he's good last week. Don't you feel like coming in cold? 399 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:40,119 Speaker 1: I think the Rams are in preventing like you know 400 00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:44,479 Speaker 1: they were whatever. Okay, I'm cold, like out of nowhere. 401 00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:46,879 Speaker 1: How didn't the guy like not thrown a real pass 402 00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:49,399 Speaker 1: in six years or something. He spit in Seattle for 403 00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:51,199 Speaker 1: a couple of years, so he knows the offense right, 404 00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:53,680 Speaker 1: which is the point that Mike Tomlin made that look, 405 00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:56,680 Speaker 1: Gino Smith is not some young little pup who doesn't 406 00:21:56,680 --> 00:21:58,320 Speaker 1: know what he's doing. He's thirty one years old. And 407 00:21:58,359 --> 00:22:00,840 Speaker 1: he also said he definitely knows his sister inside out, 408 00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:04,360 Speaker 1: and that the Steelers do indeed have respect for this system. 409 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:07,120 Speaker 1: And look like, just get the ball to DK Metcalf 410 00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:09,520 Speaker 1: and Tyler Lockett and see what happens. Like those are 411 00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:13,480 Speaker 1: some legitimate game breakers there, um, and those backs aren't 412 00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:16,400 Speaker 1: bad either. They're not. They're they're a batch of okay, 413 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:20,120 Speaker 1: right Collins and Carson Carson hurt Um. All right, Well, 414 00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:22,879 Speaker 1: what other question? Who's the team to beat in the 415 00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:25,520 Speaker 1: a f C. Are you gonna go Bills Browns? Can 416 00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:28,200 Speaker 1: I hear the Chargers? Maybe I've got it? Not done 417 00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:31,080 Speaker 1: with the Chiefs, you know what I am? Well, I'm 418 00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:34,000 Speaker 1: never done with the Chiefs, but I am seeing the 419 00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:37,199 Speaker 1: Chargers in person this weekend against Baltimore. So that's my 420 00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:40,120 Speaker 1: game this week. Make sure everybody tunes into the NFL 421 00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:44,200 Speaker 1: network of course Sunday pregame show. Um, I am eager 422 00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:49,320 Speaker 1: to see the Chargers and I love their aggressiveness. Hey, Jason, 423 00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:52,600 Speaker 1: do you know that their data guy, their research analyst, 424 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:56,440 Speaker 1: analytics person, um is an Indian guy or a person 425 00:22:56,440 --> 00:22:59,240 Speaker 1: of the Indian Yeah. I did not know that the 426 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:02,800 Speaker 1: Indians are taking over the league rights defensive court. But 427 00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:05,159 Speaker 1: you know, I just read this story about how aggressive 428 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:07,679 Speaker 1: they are on fourth down and that so much of 429 00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:10,879 Speaker 1: that is driven by their analytics person whose exact title 430 00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:15,640 Speaker 1: I don't know, but his name is Aditya. And so anyway, Um, 431 00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:17,879 Speaker 1: that was just a little I don't know if your 432 00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:25,760 Speaker 1: listeners care about the dear Dear listeners know that you 433 00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:28,560 Speaker 1: are to say, yes, I have not given out my 434 00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:30,600 Speaker 1: full twenty three and me, but I do have like 435 00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:33,760 Speaker 1: the picture on my phone. Um. Funny side plot. So 436 00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:36,159 Speaker 1: my son plays on a club basketball team and we 437 00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:38,000 Speaker 1: go to this tournament and I'm talking to this other 438 00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:40,560 Speaker 1: mom and then the next day she's at the tournament 439 00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:43,040 Speaker 1: to and usually people wait a year to ask like, oh, 440 00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:45,000 Speaker 1: so what's your background? She's just right up front, so 441 00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:48,040 Speaker 1: where are you from? I was like, wow, that's pretty bold. 442 00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:51,240 Speaker 1: The second but I respect it and I you know, 443 00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:53,920 Speaker 1: broke down the twenty three of me stuff. But YadA, YadA, YadA. 444 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:57,120 Speaker 1: At any rate, Um, congrats to the Indian guy who 445 00:23:57,240 --> 00:24:00,720 Speaker 1: is running the Chargers analytics. Maybe yeah, but anyway, the 446 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:02,960 Speaker 1: point was more that, you know, they are very aggressive 447 00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:05,119 Speaker 1: on fourth down and I'm obviously very eager to see 448 00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:10,240 Speaker 1: uh them in person. I think that the Bills are 449 00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:14,240 Speaker 1: just playing so well and what is so impressive is 450 00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:17,919 Speaker 1: their defense. Is that Brandon being said this offseason, Brandon 451 00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:20,840 Speaker 1: being Sean McDermott said, we need to shot up this defense. 452 00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:23,679 Speaker 1: We want a defensive line where we can roll guys. 453 00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:25,200 Speaker 1: We just have to be better on that side of 454 00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:27,800 Speaker 1: the ball. And look at what they've done. I mean, 455 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:30,600 Speaker 1: they are leading in so many defensive categories that for 456 00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:32,439 Speaker 1: as much as we want to talk about Josh Allen 457 00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:35,159 Speaker 1: and his big arm and these amazing leaps on the field, 458 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:38,600 Speaker 1: you can't ignore what that defense is doing. And again, 459 00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:42,280 Speaker 1: as yeah, and as you can tell, I still believe 460 00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:46,399 Speaker 1: that defense wins championships. Old school huh, you know, of 461 00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:49,920 Speaker 1: a good offense always beat uh the best defense, right? Uh? 462 00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:52,639 Speaker 1: You know, I don't know what did we see Tampa 463 00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:55,680 Speaker 1: Bay do bringing pressure with just four and you can 464 00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:57,399 Speaker 1: say that that was a good offense, but it had 465 00:24:57,440 --> 00:25:00,480 Speaker 1: a horrible offensive line or at least two very ruggling 466 00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:03,200 Speaker 1: offensive line play, which again goes back to my point 467 00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:06,240 Speaker 1: about the Steelers that I mean, you invest in your 468 00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:09,000 Speaker 1: offensive line above anything else. That's the way I feel. 469 00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:11,479 Speaker 1: But I think that Tampa Bay show, and as much 470 00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:13,520 Speaker 1: as we talk about Tom Brady and this, that and 471 00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:15,960 Speaker 1: the other, that Super Bowl last year was about that 472 00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:19,080 Speaker 1: Tampa Bay defense, about that Todd Bowls defense and the 473 00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:21,520 Speaker 1: way they were able to bring pressure and bring pressure 474 00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:23,320 Speaker 1: with just for And so when we go back to 475 00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:26,080 Speaker 1: the Bills, I think the Bills. I think everybody in 476 00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:27,520 Speaker 1: the a f C knows that the a f C 477 00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:30,120 Speaker 1: runs through the Chiefs. So you need to be able 478 00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:32,280 Speaker 1: to compete with the Chiefs. So how do you compete 479 00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:35,359 Speaker 1: with the Chiefs if you can bring pressure with just 480 00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:37,760 Speaker 1: your front, because you don't want to lose a guy 481 00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:39,639 Speaker 1: on the back end. You can't you can't afford to 482 00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:41,560 Speaker 1: do that. I mean, if anything, you need an extra 483 00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:43,600 Speaker 1: guy in the back end to be double teaming somebody. 484 00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:45,560 Speaker 1: So you've got to be able to bring pressure with 485 00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:47,480 Speaker 1: just your front. And I think what the Bills did 486 00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:49,719 Speaker 1: with that defensive line what they are able to do 487 00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:52,600 Speaker 1: right now. I mean, it's it's a nice matchup and 488 00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:58,320 Speaker 1: Chargers both have superstar ed drushers and Garrett Moosa, and 489 00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:00,520 Speaker 1: so they will be able to get pressure. I was 490 00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:03,160 Speaker 1: at Chargers Brown super lucky. Me and my son went 491 00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:05,720 Speaker 1: with a couple of buddies, and the one thing I 492 00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:08,760 Speaker 1: noticed about Herbert is his ball is so pretty. When 493 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:12,280 Speaker 1: he releases it before Alan's making the cuts, you could 494 00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:14,639 Speaker 1: see Mike Williams, and it's just everything's on point. Like 495 00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:16,920 Speaker 1: I don't know a d D people think of going 496 00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:19,200 Speaker 1: overboard with calling Herbert like a top five quarterback in 497 00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:22,399 Speaker 1: the league already. I just I mean, if you're starting 498 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:24,640 Speaker 1: to franchise, how many guys are you taking over justin 499 00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:26,639 Speaker 1: Herbert right now? Like? Well, I mean I think I 500 00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:29,440 Speaker 1: think it's a very very fair point, right and this 501 00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:32,240 Speaker 1: is the day and age of you know, these young 502 00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:34,520 Speaker 1: quarterbacks who are able to do things. That's another thing 503 00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:36,679 Speaker 1: Mike Tomlins tonight talked about. He was asked about this 504 00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:39,560 Speaker 1: preponderance for going for it on fourth down, and he said, well, 505 00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:43,080 Speaker 1: you're seeing mobile quarterbacks. You know, quarterbacks have more mobility 506 00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:46,240 Speaker 1: right now and more athleticism than they perhaps ever have. 507 00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:49,480 Speaker 1: And I think that that speaks to that obviously, it 508 00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:51,600 Speaker 1: gives you the ability to do things that maybe before 509 00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:55,359 Speaker 1: you couldn't. All right, I am curious John Gruden. So 510 00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:57,640 Speaker 1: obviously we're not trying to get fired here, neither of us. 511 00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:02,359 Speaker 1: I love my jobs, plural um. I just the Gruden 512 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:05,240 Speaker 1: things kind of an annoying story in that I feel 513 00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:07,760 Speaker 1: like a lot of people aren't focusing on how this 514 00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:11,919 Speaker 1: Gruden stuff turned up. Right. It was an investigation into Washington, 515 00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:16,880 Speaker 1: and we've heard they sifted through six emails and there's 516 00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:19,959 Speaker 1: nothing yet on Washington. There's a lot on Jon Gruden, 517 00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:24,320 Speaker 1: who wasn't in the league coaching at the time. It 518 00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:27,080 Speaker 1: just feels a little strange. Is that. Do you think 519 00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:28,600 Speaker 1: that that's the end of it, or do you think 520 00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:32,560 Speaker 1: that there's going to indeed be revelation of more, that 521 00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:35,680 Speaker 1: this is perhaps just the first drop and there will 522 00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:37,520 Speaker 1: indeed be more, because as you said, it is six 523 00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:43,080 Speaker 1: emails and this is not in any way at all 524 00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:48,560 Speaker 1: excusing or um. I can't even think of like a 525 00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:51,720 Speaker 1: word that won't be misconstrued. This is not softening the 526 00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:56,440 Speaker 1: blow at all of the casualness with which John Gruden 527 00:27:56,600 --> 00:28:02,840 Speaker 1: spoke about so so so many people. I simply have 528 00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:09,240 Speaker 1: trouble believing that in six emails, these were the only ones. Flat, Okay, fair, 529 00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:12,040 Speaker 1: that's fair. That being said, why have we heard a 530 00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:17,960 Speaker 1: ton about Gruden's emails and zero out of Washington six, Jason, 531 00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:21,719 Speaker 1: it's been three days? I mean, like, I just okay, 532 00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:25,480 Speaker 1: but let's like, I just think that this is the 533 00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:27,639 Speaker 1: sort of story that's just going to keeping going. And 534 00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:30,520 Speaker 1: yes it's not. When you say, why have we heard 535 00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:33,280 Speaker 1: about Gruden's emails, Okay, well it's been three days, right, Like, 536 00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:35,760 Speaker 1: isn't this the nature like it's drips and drips and 537 00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:39,080 Speaker 1: drips and drips. Okay, well, you know, like there hasn't 538 00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:41,719 Speaker 1: been time yet, and I just think there will be more. 539 00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:43,120 Speaker 1: I do think that they will be a little bit 540 00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:45,600 Speaker 1: more pressure to have some more transparency on what that 541 00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:48,440 Speaker 1: investigation turned up, because, as you know, there was never 542 00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:53,320 Speaker 1: a written report. Yeah that that Listen, Maybe you're right, 543 00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:56,080 Speaker 1: this is just the beginning. Fox Sports Radio has the 544 00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:59,040 Speaker 1: best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of 545 00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:02,600 Speaker 1: our shows at far sports radio dot com and within 546 00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:05,080 Speaker 1: the I Heart Radio app search f s R to 547 00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:12,800 Speaker 1: listen live. I do wonder you were in newspapers obviously umpapers, 548 00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:14,920 Speaker 1: good work by the Wall Street Journal, my Old Woman, 549 00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:16,920 Speaker 1: and the New York Times here. So one of the 550 00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:18,920 Speaker 1: theories that you know, and I know Mike Florio and 551 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:21,760 Speaker 1: other people are floating, is the NFL, wanting to ultimately 552 00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:26,640 Speaker 1: protect Snyder, is leaking this stuff, taking the investigation from 553 00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:28,959 Speaker 1: gruten and going right to the Times in the Journal 554 00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:33,040 Speaker 1: kind of get everybody off the scent of Daniel Snyder 555 00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:35,960 Speaker 1: and Washington and just get a sacrificial lamb. I know 556 00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:40,200 Speaker 1: that's some conspiracy theory ship, but adity, to me, that 557 00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:44,520 Speaker 1: was an interesting take. Uh. I mean, anything can be 558 00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:46,840 Speaker 1: an interesting take. I just I just don't see it. 559 00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:49,600 Speaker 1: And I think that when there's a little bit, it 560 00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:53,040 Speaker 1: makes people hungry for more. And I don't think that 561 00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:57,480 Speaker 1: the American public is I just think that football fans 562 00:29:57,520 --> 00:29:59,720 Speaker 1: are a little bit smarter than that, and they're not 563 00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:04,040 Speaker 1: going being satisfied with oh okay, here's one sacrificial lamb. 564 00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:06,200 Speaker 1: Let's just move on now. I think that more people 565 00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:09,640 Speaker 1: will be curious to say, wait a minute, come on now. 566 00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:13,880 Speaker 1: Sixty emails and that's all that stood out in six 567 00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:17,160 Speaker 1: D do you think Bruce Allen. I was gonna say, 568 00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:19,760 Speaker 1: did Bruce Allen reply to any of those emails that 569 00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:21,800 Speaker 1: Gruten said, We don't know the answer yet. Maybe there's 570 00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:24,520 Speaker 1: a treasure trove in his toast, but I thought we did, no, no, no. 571 00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:27,080 Speaker 1: In fact, the New York Times Jason did say in 572 00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:31,000 Speaker 1: yesterday's piece that Bruce Ellen initiated some of these emails, 573 00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:36,520 Speaker 1: that these weren't just one way conversations started by Gruden. Yeah, 574 00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:39,600 Speaker 1: it's interesting. I would love to see how that started. 575 00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:45,040 Speaker 1: Maybe we will your optimistic but you know, you know here, 576 00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:47,480 Speaker 1: I think the bigger picture here is is that I 577 00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:53,000 Speaker 1: think it's very hard to legislate kindness or tolerance, or 578 00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:58,880 Speaker 1: you can try to legislate inclusion and good warm thoughts, 579 00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:01,880 Speaker 1: But I do you think the bigger picture here? You know, 580 00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:03,680 Speaker 1: Like to the folks that are saying, oh, this is 581 00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:06,720 Speaker 1: cancel culture, this is cancel culture, I don't think there's 582 00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:10,480 Speaker 1: anything wrong with demanding a higher standard of people who 583 00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:13,240 Speaker 1: work for your organization, and as an employee of the 584 00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:15,120 Speaker 1: National Football League, I don't have a problem with the 585 00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:17,680 Speaker 1: fact that I'm held to a higher standard, that there 586 00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:20,320 Speaker 1: are certain expectations of me that I am in a 587 00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:24,560 Speaker 1: position of let's call it leadership, not leadership like one 588 00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:27,440 Speaker 1: of the thirty two NFL head coaches. But I think 589 00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:32,000 Speaker 1: there is a responsibility associated with that. And I'm okay 590 00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:35,560 Speaker 1: with the idea that hateful language should not be so casual. 591 00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:40,680 Speaker 1: I think that's that's fair. I don't disagree with that. 592 00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:43,680 Speaker 1: As a guy. I know I've sent regrettable emails and 593 00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:48,200 Speaker 1: texts through the years, hopefully nothing in recent years. But 594 00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:50,160 Speaker 1: I explained of my kids, you know, you have young 595 00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:52,640 Speaker 1: kids to like, Hey, you guys are starting to go 596 00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:55,240 Speaker 1: on the Internet and like play some games. We regulate 597 00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:56,920 Speaker 1: a lot of the internet, all of the internet, so 598 00:31:57,320 --> 00:31:59,560 Speaker 1: but like you just got to know anything you send 599 00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:03,600 Speaker 1: or post on Instagram or whatever like lives forever. And 600 00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:06,320 Speaker 1: they were like really. And then my son said, like, 601 00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:08,800 Speaker 1: what about the roadblocks chat Dad? And I was like, 602 00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:10,880 Speaker 1: you never know, So I just don't write anything dumb, 603 00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:13,479 Speaker 1: you know. Um, But let me ask you this, Addy, 604 00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:17,520 Speaker 1: how good is that Raider's head coaching job, given we 605 00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:20,640 Speaker 1: don't know the situation with Mayak Um Mayak and Gruden 606 00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:23,440 Speaker 1: kind of came in together. New head coach could be 607 00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:26,800 Speaker 1: a new GM quarterback. Uncertainty is the Raider's job, even 608 00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:29,160 Speaker 1: a good one in a division, I'm sorry, in a 609 00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:32,800 Speaker 1: division with Herbert and Mahomes. There are only thirty two 610 00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:39,280 Speaker 1: of these, you know. It's funny y, yeah, only thirty two. 611 00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:41,360 Speaker 1: I gotta take my chance. And well, and that's what 612 00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:44,440 Speaker 1: you know. And I've had that conversation with quite a 613 00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:48,120 Speaker 1: few people. Be it as GM candidates are head coach candidates, 614 00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:50,840 Speaker 1: and it's you think on the outside that a place 615 00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:55,920 Speaker 1: maybe UM a little bit squirrelly, not even necessarily rotten, 616 00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:57,960 Speaker 1: but you're not sure. But how do you know you're 617 00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:00,880 Speaker 1: going to get another chance? How you know another chance 618 00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:07,880 Speaker 1: is coming your way? And so I think there's opportunity anywhere. 619 00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:11,080 Speaker 1: And also, let's be very fair. I don't cover the Raiders, 620 00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:14,000 Speaker 1: so I don't know that club inside out, and I 621 00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:16,240 Speaker 1: don't want to paint I don't want to paint them 622 00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:21,040 Speaker 1: any which way. Right, UM, I guess part of the county. 623 00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:22,840 Speaker 1: What's the name of the guy who took the Arizona 624 00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:26,000 Speaker 1: Cardinals coaching job a couple of years ago? Um, And 625 00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:27,960 Speaker 1: he lasted one year and then that was it. Do 626 00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:31,520 Speaker 1: you remember Steve Wilkes? So he wanted his chance and 627 00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:38,560 Speaker 1: Denny was done after one year, is he going to 628 00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:41,120 Speaker 1: get a second chance? The first one did not go 629 00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:42,479 Speaker 1: well at all. I don't think he's going to get 630 00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:45,280 Speaker 1: a second chance. But how crazy is that? Think about 631 00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:49,400 Speaker 1: all the things that the GM sort of responsible for 632 00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:54,239 Speaker 1: during that period, continues to hold his job and now 633 00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:56,400 Speaker 1: the Cardinals are five and oh but this, I guess. 634 00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:59,920 Speaker 1: I bring this back to Eric b enemy who has 635 00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:04,320 Speaker 1: been mentioned supposedly for many jobs. He's never gotten the 636 00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:08,480 Speaker 1: head coaching job. If I'm the enemy, like I'm waiting, 637 00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:11,880 Speaker 1: I'm not forcing the issue going to some dumpster fire 638 00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:14,080 Speaker 1: so I can last a year or two, I will 639 00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:17,880 Speaker 1: say the New York Giants job at ded Um. Danny 640 00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:20,239 Speaker 1: Dimes can cuss coach on the hot seat. I know 641 00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:22,880 Speaker 1: you don't like talking about this stuff. Uh, GM in 642 00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:26,239 Speaker 1: trouble um. Everybody's hurt on that team right now. If 643 00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:28,960 Speaker 1: they lose again this week double digit dogs to the Rams, 644 00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:32,719 Speaker 1: and the Cowboys continue to pull away, I think we 645 00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:35,239 Speaker 1: can safely say that the New York Giants job may 646 00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:38,640 Speaker 1: be open. I'm you know, I'm just sighing. Not because 647 00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:40,319 Speaker 1: it said I don't want to talk about this. I'm 648 00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:43,439 Speaker 1: sighing because as a little girl, I was a Giants fan, 649 00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:47,520 Speaker 1: and my first NFL B was covering Tom Coughlin and 650 00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:51,160 Speaker 1: the New York Giants. And I left New York right 651 00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:54,360 Speaker 1: after that Super Bowl win in Indianapolis over the Patriots, 652 00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:56,800 Speaker 1: when Eli Manning through that beautiful baal to Mario Manningham 653 00:34:56,800 --> 00:35:00,520 Speaker 1: and Manningham somehow held onto it. And you know that 654 00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:03,840 Speaker 1: NASCAR defensive front. Let's name another name that hasn't gotten 655 00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:07,560 Speaker 1: another chance, Perry Fuel. Perry Fuel was the architect of 656 00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:14,080 Speaker 1: that Giant's defense that so terrorized Tom Brady. Um. Yeah, 657 00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:17,360 Speaker 1: it's just sad. It's sad that an organization has fallen 658 00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:22,560 Speaker 1: as far as it has. It's sad that, you know, 659 00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:24,400 Speaker 1: Kevin Gilbride, a man that I had a ton of 660 00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:27,240 Speaker 1: respect for, was sort of you talked about sacrificial lambs. 661 00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:32,239 Speaker 1: He resigned and gave Tom Coffin another year basically and said, okay, 662 00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:35,040 Speaker 1: I'll fall on the sword, except that Tom Coffin never 663 00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:37,000 Speaker 1: got an offensive line that could do anything. And then 664 00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:38,719 Speaker 1: Tom Coughlin was out. You know, the man's going to 665 00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:41,080 Speaker 1: be in the Hall of Fame. And I just, I 666 00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:44,279 Speaker 1: don't know, it's sad to see certain organizations go through 667 00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:47,640 Speaker 1: something like that. Maybe I feel that way specifically because 668 00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:49,879 Speaker 1: that's the team I reoted for when I was young. Yeah, 669 00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:53,839 Speaker 1: as a Jets fan, I can't say I feel it's 670 00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:59,239 Speaker 1: I keep calling him Kyle Wilson, Zach Wilson. I just 671 00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:03,120 Speaker 1: at the draft. I covered the draft in Cleveland, and 672 00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:05,200 Speaker 1: I was calling him Wilson. I have no idea, but 673 00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:07,160 Speaker 1: I keep calling him Kyle Wilson. He might be a 674 00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:10,680 Speaker 1: baseball player or an actor. Still optimistic for Zek Wilson. 675 00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:12,640 Speaker 1: I'm not ready all these people who want to kill him. 676 00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:15,160 Speaker 1: It's like, dude, it's game five. He started serious. You 677 00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:17,040 Speaker 1: were and a half at b y you can we 678 00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:19,759 Speaker 1: can we relax? Um, they're gonna looks so good a 679 00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:21,319 Speaker 1: week and a half ago, I mean a week and 680 00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:23,520 Speaker 1: a half ago, you're ready to say, all right, the 681 00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:26,120 Speaker 1: Jets got it right. No, No, I think they got 682 00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:28,200 Speaker 1: it right. But again, I felt this way about Sam Donald, 683 00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:30,440 Speaker 1: and you know he's in Carolina Blue now and you 684 00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:32,400 Speaker 1: have a different head coach. You have a different head coach. Well, 685 00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:35,880 Speaker 1: another guy, Adam Gaze, Like I took the bait at Peyton, 686 00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:39,240 Speaker 1: Manning hyped the ship out of him. Oh fifty five touchdowns. 687 00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:40,879 Speaker 1: It's all because Adam Gaze. I'm like, all right, let's 688 00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:44,240 Speaker 1: bring him in. Let's do it. A guy's a dope, 689 00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:47,879 Speaker 1: totally ray coordinator doesn't always make a great I don't 690 00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:49,359 Speaker 1: even know if he's going to be a coordinator again, 691 00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:51,520 Speaker 1: that's how bad. Okay, But a great coordinator does not 692 00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:54,279 Speaker 1: necessarily make a great head coach. I think they are 693 00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:57,400 Speaker 1: different jobs. I think Adam Gaze is a high school 694 00:36:57,400 --> 00:37:01,120 Speaker 1: football coach in Long Island or something really somewhere. It 695 00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:03,000 Speaker 1: might be not Long Island, but that's the last thing 696 00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:04,759 Speaker 1: I saw. It was like a high school football coach. Well, 697 00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:06,839 Speaker 1: I'm a big fan of Robert Salace, okay, who, by 698 00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:09,279 Speaker 1: the way, is the son of Lemon get Lebanese immigrants. 699 00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:13,200 Speaker 1: None that we I mean, we just said we were. 700 00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:15,160 Speaker 1: He was on our CBS show We Need to Talk 701 00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:19,000 Speaker 1: way back in the spring, and we bonded over how 702 00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:21,840 Speaker 1: our parents expected us to be, you know, doctors and engineers, 703 00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:25,040 Speaker 1: and it's kind of like a very common immigrant story. 704 00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:29,919 Speaker 1: My parents initially said doctor that obviously wasn't happening, uh, 705 00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:32,800 Speaker 1: and then lawyer for me was the deal. They were like, Jason, 706 00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:35,120 Speaker 1: you're great at arguing. You really argue with your parents 707 00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:36,440 Speaker 1: all the time you could be a lawyer, and that 708 00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:38,520 Speaker 1: was like sounds good to me. And they're like, yeah, 709 00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:40,279 Speaker 1: you just gotta go to law school after college. I 710 00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:44,160 Speaker 1: was like, what more school? Na, I don't think so? 711 00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:47,759 Speaker 1: Um so yeah, but now our kids a d D. 712 00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:49,279 Speaker 1: And not to bring it back too much to kids, 713 00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:52,400 Speaker 1: but like, do you think you'll have the same push 714 00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:55,360 Speaker 1: for your kids that your parents had for you? You 715 00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:58,120 Speaker 1: mean to succeed? Am I a tiger? Mone? Yeah? My 716 00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:00,439 Speaker 1: son is in first grade and he brings his home 717 00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:04,359 Speaker 1: like a twenty four out of five, And part of 718 00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:06,040 Speaker 1: me is like, yeah, you build him up, and the 719 00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:07,440 Speaker 1: other part of me is like, what the hell happens 720 00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:09,480 Speaker 1: to the last point, Like what do you mean? Don't 721 00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:12,560 Speaker 1: do the build up that? That was my only recommendation, 722 00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:16,240 Speaker 1: always room for improvement. My daughter had a soccer games 723 00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:19,719 Speaker 1: the two goals and I was like, it's a great job, um, 724 00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:21,480 Speaker 1: and then you know, you let it settle and you 725 00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:23,919 Speaker 1: get home and it's like, so, what are you gonna 726 00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:27,640 Speaker 1: have a hat trick? Not not in But let me 727 00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:30,400 Speaker 1: tell you that I have to say this about my 728 00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:33,120 Speaker 1: son because my son is six. He just turned six, 729 00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:36,759 Speaker 1: and up until three weeks ago, we were on the 730 00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:39,200 Speaker 1: soccer field, and one day he'd play great, and then 731 00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:41,080 Speaker 1: the next day he'd be like watching the planes in 732 00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:43,239 Speaker 1: the sky or the dog on the next field. Well, 733 00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:45,480 Speaker 1: then the last two games he's had a hat trick 734 00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:48,800 Speaker 1: both games. It's just like the light bulb went off. 735 00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:52,960 Speaker 1: So to answer your first question, do I want him 736 00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:54,800 Speaker 1: to be the best? Do I want him to succeed 737 00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:56,800 Speaker 1: in every way? Do I want him to be anything 738 00:38:56,800 --> 00:39:00,200 Speaker 1: but ordinary? Of course, But I don't feel compelled that 739 00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:03,759 Speaker 1: he has to be in any sort of one profession, 740 00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:08,040 Speaker 1: Like the way that my parents felt there were maybe 741 00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:12,439 Speaker 1: you know, four or five professions that really fit what 742 00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:16,200 Speaker 1: a smart kid did. I think that there's there's a 743 00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:19,560 Speaker 1: lot more open mindedness on my Internet has changed things 744 00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:21,719 Speaker 1: a little bit. I mean, that's when I left the newspaper. 745 00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:24,800 Speaker 1: I still remember. I don't know if you remember the 746 00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:27,080 Speaker 1: guy Rob Tannenbaum. Do you remember him. He was like 747 00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:29,880 Speaker 1: one of the editors there. And I had started on 748 00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:32,640 Speaker 1: my own website, Jason McIntire dot com, to like post 749 00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:35,560 Speaker 1: some of my stories, and someone told him about it 750 00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:39,520 Speaker 1: in the sports department and he's like, Jason, I don't 751 00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:40,840 Speaker 1: know if it's allowed. You might have to take this 752 00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:43,000 Speaker 1: stuff down. I'm like, why this is like putting my 753 00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:46,399 Speaker 1: resume online? And people just didn't understand the internet. And 754 00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:50,560 Speaker 1: when you started the big lead, was anybody aggregating or 755 00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:52,600 Speaker 1: was that just totally your idea? I mean it was 756 00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:55,279 Speaker 1: I think it was two thousand six. There was some aggregation, 757 00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:57,480 Speaker 1: but it was like I saw Gawker had done it, 758 00:39:57,560 --> 00:39:59,800 Speaker 1: which was like New York City Center. But in sports 759 00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:03,640 Speaker 1: there was like a couple of blogs, um, nothing huge, 760 00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:07,360 Speaker 1: And yeah, it was like, did you start as just 761 00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:09,840 Speaker 1: sports or was it always an intersection of pop culture 762 00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:13,000 Speaker 1: and sports mostly sports? And then it starts and no 763 00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:15,839 Speaker 1: one was doing it until you, not really, I mean 764 00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:17,839 Speaker 1: other I can't say I was like the first. I'm 765 00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:20,080 Speaker 1: sure there were others, but it's so weird because adit 766 00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:23,160 Speaker 1: you know this Now nobody does blogs. It's like you 767 00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:25,760 Speaker 1: might as well just do social media. Creat account, be interesting, 768 00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:28,600 Speaker 1: find it interesting stuff and put it on social media, right, 769 00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:34,440 Speaker 1: Like do you read blogs anymore? Um? No? And you 770 00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:36,800 Speaker 1: know what I will tell you. I look up recipes 771 00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:39,720 Speaker 1: online and when I get like a whole blog entry, 772 00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:42,120 Speaker 1: I'm just like, can I just get the recipe? Can 773 00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:45,560 Speaker 1: I just get too long? Didn't read or whatever t 774 00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:48,080 Speaker 1: L d R. Yeah, yeah, but I think that that 775 00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:50,520 Speaker 1: also speaks to the A D D society you are 776 00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:52,560 Speaker 1: in when you have a six year old and a 777 00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:56,840 Speaker 1: two year old, like I am on a blame social 778 00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:59,319 Speaker 1: media for that, right, Like I think our brains are 779 00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:02,480 Speaker 1: now being re wired over the last ten years. Quick, quick, 780 00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:05,879 Speaker 1: there's no two. Like, it's hard for nuance and to listen. Well, 781 00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:09,000 Speaker 1: people are expecting their news in these character bites as 782 00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:12,360 Speaker 1: opposed to you know, reading an eighteen hundred words story 783 00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:16,320 Speaker 1: and it hurts, like, for instance, this New York Times story. Um, 784 00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:19,560 Speaker 1: I let my New York Times subscription laps, so I 785 00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:22,120 Speaker 1: don't have one, and I had, you know, I saw 786 00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:24,160 Speaker 1: the headline for Gruden and I was like, all right, 787 00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:27,440 Speaker 1: I'll just wait for fifty million websites to just go 788 00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:30,439 Speaker 1: through and pick out the important stuff. I know that's 789 00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:33,879 Speaker 1: for your local newspapers. But let me ask this, how 790 00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:37,200 Speaker 1: many newspapers do you pay money to monthly? We do? Actually, 791 00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:42,000 Speaker 1: the New York Times, the Wall Street Journal, the Washington Post. Um, 792 00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:44,319 Speaker 1: we do. I think the Pittsburgh Post Gazette because we 793 00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:48,359 Speaker 1: live here, so we do. Oh. Look, Matt Kramer now 794 00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:54,719 Speaker 1: finally says love you too, but like, and that's not 795 00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:56,160 Speaker 1: a slate for me, by the way, to the New 796 00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:59,600 Speaker 1: York Times. It's like, you know, we share a Wall 797 00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:01,480 Speaker 1: Street and one with the family, and I have no 798 00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:03,600 Speaker 1: problem sharing the password with the rest of my family 799 00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:05,000 Speaker 1: so they can read that stuff in the Wall Street 800 00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:08,640 Speaker 1: Journal to me has better stuff than the New York Times. 801 00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:11,080 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Um, I don't. I personally don't love the 802 00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:14,600 Speaker 1: sports section of the Times, do you. I mean, you 803 00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:17,440 Speaker 1: know some of the best sports stuff is that I'm 804 00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:20,760 Speaker 1: not tuning my own here horn here, but Fox, ESPN, 805 00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:23,880 Speaker 1: NFL network has everything you can want, like and that 806 00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:27,799 Speaker 1: stuffs all free. I don't know, well, you know, it's 807 00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:31,080 Speaker 1: a it's you know, it's sort of like our podcasts 808 00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:34,680 Speaker 1: NFL Explained, which is a brilliant podcast. You have listened 809 00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:36,919 Speaker 1: to that, right I did leading up to this, Yes, 810 00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:40,240 Speaker 1: I had not before that. But um, I am curious 811 00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:44,279 Speaker 1: what do you think about getting in the podcast? John? Well, 812 00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:48,520 Speaker 1: that's my point. How do you feel like, you know, 813 00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:51,200 Speaker 1: you're talking into a microphone. It's weird that you don't 814 00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:53,960 Speaker 1: get like the automatic response the way you do on 815 00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:56,439 Speaker 1: social media and even on TV. You talk on TV, 816 00:42:56,520 --> 00:42:58,480 Speaker 1: do you look on social media, people are hitting you 817 00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:02,000 Speaker 1: up do your podcast, sure, which is both a positive 818 00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:07,200 Speaker 1: and negative. The podcast I'm really really enjoying because the 819 00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:10,960 Speaker 1: one that we're doing, Jason, is not it's evergreen, you know. 820 00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:12,880 Speaker 1: So the topics that we are hitting are things that 821 00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:16,719 Speaker 1: people have been curious about that don't necessarily have very 822 00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:19,960 Speaker 1: obvious answers and whose answers don't expire. So what I 823 00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:21,520 Speaker 1: mean by that is, you know, like we explain how 824 00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:24,080 Speaker 1: every single team got its name or why everything you'd 825 00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:26,200 Speaker 1: ever want to know about goalposts? Why are they yellow? 826 00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:27,960 Speaker 1: Why are they thirty? Why are they uprights thirty five 827 00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:29,400 Speaker 1: ft in the air? Like how often do you have 828 00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:32,680 Speaker 1: to paint them? Whatever? I think like cool things that 829 00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:35,759 Speaker 1: are associated with the game. And just because I am 830 00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:38,600 Speaker 1: dorky like this. I like learning stuff, you know, like 831 00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:41,600 Speaker 1: I like knowing more. I like the idea of sharing 832 00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:45,520 Speaker 1: this information. Um, you're right, feedback is nice, but I 833 00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:48,120 Speaker 1: feel like there's plenty of feedback on my Twitter, which 834 00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:51,839 Speaker 1: is good and bad. Yeah, let me ask this one. 835 00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:54,920 Speaker 1: So my kids were a little perplexed because they're doing 836 00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:58,040 Speaker 1: some fantasy football and they were like, so, Dad, why 837 00:43:58,080 --> 00:44:00,959 Speaker 1: does the quarterback get a touch down? If he throws 838 00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:03,000 Speaker 1: a pass to Christian McCaffrey who runs it in from 839 00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:05,400 Speaker 1: twenty yards. But if you hand it off to McCaffrey 840 00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:08,239 Speaker 1: and he runs it in, only McCaffrey gets it. Why 841 00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:10,200 Speaker 1: with the wide receiver does he get it and the 842 00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:12,919 Speaker 1: quarterback if the quarterback didn't come near the end zone? 843 00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:16,720 Speaker 1: And I was like, some next level stuff. Good question. 844 00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:22,200 Speaker 1: I don't know the answer. That's how the curiosity is important, 845 00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:24,719 Speaker 1: you know for sure, But I don't know. Is that like, 846 00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:28,360 Speaker 1: is that a weird question to ask? No? I think quarterback, 847 00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:30,200 Speaker 1: This makes me think of you know what I was 848 00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:32,480 Speaker 1: when my son was too I was teaching him football 849 00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:35,239 Speaker 1: Godford talking about our kids a lot, but I was 850 00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:36,879 Speaker 1: teaching him that, you know, the quarterback is the guy 851 00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:38,840 Speaker 1: who gets the ball first and either throws it to 852 00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:41,359 Speaker 1: the receiver or he gives a twist friend the running back. 853 00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:43,640 Speaker 1: And then I remember I was watching Tennessee with him 854 00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:46,680 Speaker 1: and Marcus Mariotta keeps the ball and my two year 855 00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:48,960 Speaker 1: old looks at me and goes, Mommy, what does the 856 00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:51,799 Speaker 1: quarterback still have the ball? Like, why didn't he give 857 00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:53,560 Speaker 1: it to the running back? Why didn't he throw into 858 00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:55,239 Speaker 1: the wide receiver? And it was like, oh my god, 859 00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:59,040 Speaker 1: all the things that I'm failing at in teaching this child. 860 00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:00,600 Speaker 1: And then you know, way do you get to pass 861 00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:05,279 Speaker 1: interference again? We were at Chargers, Browns and down and 862 00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:07,600 Speaker 1: it's like the Chargers guy and the Browns guy go up, 863 00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:09,480 Speaker 1: the guy ref doores the flag. The replay, which is 864 00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:12,920 Speaker 1: on social media is super slow mo, and the Chargers 865 00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:15,640 Speaker 1: guys doing way more grappling, and they're like, how does 866 00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:17,959 Speaker 1: the ref butcher that right on top of the play. 867 00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:21,239 Speaker 1: That's pivotal moment. Okay, But to be fair, you have 868 00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:24,240 Speaker 1: to teach your children grace that we have the benefit 869 00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:25,960 Speaker 1: of seeing this slow more we play, and that the 870 00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:28,719 Speaker 1: ref in the moment doesn't necessarily see everything. And you 871 00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:30,279 Speaker 1: also have to teach your kids that it's always the 872 00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:32,560 Speaker 1: second guy who gets in trouble. We saw that last night. 873 00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:34,440 Speaker 1: We saw that in the Monday Night game when Tavon 874 00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:37,320 Speaker 1: Young got in trouble. But who was it that actually 875 00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:40,200 Speaker 1: shoved his face into the ground Royals and took the dive? 876 00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:43,040 Speaker 1: That's I gotta give Duel props for that, although for 877 00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:45,400 Speaker 1: the dive, for the shove and the dive for everything, 878 00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:47,879 Speaker 1: it worked right if they win the game, dyls the hero. 879 00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:51,680 Speaker 1: Add okay, so also also I talked about my Giants fandom. 880 00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:53,880 Speaker 1: I did. Grew up a Knicks fan, and so Reggie 881 00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:56,120 Speaker 1: Miller dives. No, don't talk to me about dives. You 882 00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:59,160 Speaker 1: have zero respect for diving and flopping. We'll go out 883 00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:01,600 Speaker 1: on this. Reggie Miller blocked me on social media because 884 00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:04,240 Speaker 1: I called him out and basically said he was overrated. Um, 885 00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:06,920 Speaker 1: Clay Tompson's way better than Reggie Miller ever was. I 886 00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:09,640 Speaker 1: don't want to hear it. Reggie did not play any defense, 887 00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:13,360 Speaker 1: broke my young heart over and over and over again. 888 00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:15,960 Speaker 1: Hall of fame or great player, got it? Clay toms 889 00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:19,680 Speaker 1: is a better player anyway. Add Reggie Miller sister Cheryl Miller, 890 00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:22,520 Speaker 1: I think it's probably the best. Yeah, it's very very 891 00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:26,120 Speaker 1: good basketball player. All right. Add it's been a good 892 00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:30,160 Speaker 1: work with your podcast, NFL network. Um, anything else you 893 00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:32,279 Speaker 1: want to plug like, I don't know, go for it. 894 00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:35,400 Speaker 1: I'm on CBS Sports. We need to talk love that show. 895 00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:38,360 Speaker 1: Please tune in next week. We'll be on CBS. A 896 00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:41,920 Speaker 1: ton of brilliant, amazing women Andrew Kramer and Dana Jacobson 897 00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:45,880 Speaker 1: and Tracy Wilson and swimming cash and I'm see. I 898 00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:47,839 Speaker 1: hate when I get asss because then I'm leaving people 899 00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:50,839 Speaker 1: out Derea Torre's and Summer Sanders and Katrina Adams and 900 00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:54,720 Speaker 1: great show. Um then also please the NFL Explained podcast. 901 00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:57,920 Speaker 1: I'm also doing serious radio right now and you can. 902 00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:01,160 Speaker 1: And I'm lady getting to the bus stop right now 903 00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:03,520 Speaker 1: to go pick up that first grader, Jason. It's been 904 00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:05,040 Speaker 1: so much fun. Will you have me on again so 905 00:47:05,080 --> 00:47:08,120 Speaker 1: we can catch up? Certainly? Yeah, all right, maybe I'll 906 00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:09,640 Speaker 1: go to are you were you coming out here for 907 00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:12,759 Speaker 1: the super Bowl right so far? I hope? Yeah? Super 908 00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:17,040 Speaker 1: Bowl week hopefully. Yeah, we'll catch at have fun later. Bye,