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Speaker 1: these results, all right. So there's the fights to get to,

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Speaker 1: Two pieces of news from the main event. Number one,

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Speaker 1: The second piece of news is subsequent to having the

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Speaker 1: She listed a bunch of reasons. Funnily enough, she mentioned

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Speaker 1: This is all, you know, She's in a different place

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Speaker 1: It was the main event, it did go five rounds.

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Speaker 1: But this was a gigantically awful fight. I mean, that's

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Speaker 1: pasted Ronda in the way that she did just absolutely

426
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Speaker 1: remarkable job. And then building off that with these like

427
00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:03,040
Speaker 1: again marrying this very technically sophisticated thing with this menacing

428
00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:07,159
Speaker 1: physicality and the name she was beating them, sorry, the

429
00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:10,399
Speaker 1: name she was beating and the way in which she

430
00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:15,240
Speaker 1: was beating them with such regularity. Dude. She gave the

431
00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:19,119
Speaker 1: UFC no choice. By the I know there was a

432
00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:22,119
Speaker 1: lot of complaints in the run up to the in

433
00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:24,800
Speaker 1: the Rhonda fight, and I remember because remember Rono didn't

434
00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:27,200
Speaker 1: want to do any media, which was fucking weird that

435
00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:29,440
Speaker 1: whole thing. And if you look at the trailers, there

436
00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:31,560
Speaker 1: was just no footage of Ronda even losing or for

437
00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:34,600
Speaker 1: it was. It was like the least you know, offensive

438
00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:36,560
Speaker 1: parts of it. They had to like tiptoe around that

439
00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:38,240
Speaker 1: and it was hard, I think, for them to pivot.

440
00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:40,520
Speaker 1: But in the end, this is what they didn't understan Dude.

441
00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:44,040
Speaker 1: In the end, she could not be denied. She could

442
00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:47,640
Speaker 1: not be denied. They had to get on board with her.

443
00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:49,359
Speaker 1: They had to like find a way to work with

444
00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:52,680
Speaker 1: Modella to put her in those commercials. They had to, dude,

445
00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:56,679
Speaker 1: they had to. They had someone on their hands that

446
00:23:56,920 --> 00:23:59,879
Speaker 1: was so unique and so special it would be fucking

447
00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:03,720
Speaker 1: criminal to not note what she was up to. She

448
00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:08,639
Speaker 1: was icing all of the prom queens, one after the other.

449
00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:12,080
Speaker 1: Just when you thought she couldn't top it, there she

450
00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:17,800
Speaker 1: went again. You know, Revel wanted the UFC to ignore that.

451
00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:20,199
Speaker 1: Revel wanted them to be like, well, the market dictates this.

452
00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:23,080
Speaker 1: The reality about Amanda is I don't think she ever

453
00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:27,480
Speaker 1: grew into any kind of a a noteworthy box office star.

454
00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:31,600
Speaker 1: But on the credible side of what matters as an athlete,

455
00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:34,800
Speaker 1: there's just nothing else she could have done short of

456
00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:36,840
Speaker 1: just you know, I wasly going one hundred percent undefeated,

457
00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:42,439
Speaker 1: which is, you know, basically basically basically no one does that.

458
00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:44,359
Speaker 1: I mean, Habib did I get that. But you know,

459
00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:48,240
Speaker 1: it's extremely across two way classes. Although we kind of

460
00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:50,840
Speaker 1: know that the one forty five thing was not super real,

461
00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:54,840
Speaker 1: but the UFC created or dude, Amanda was, Amanda was

462
00:24:55,080 --> 00:25:00,439
Speaker 1: you know, the most you know, again, Cyborgs had some

463
00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:05,720
Speaker 1: longevity that is, I mean Cyborg was beaten up women

464
00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:10,600
Speaker 1: on CBS before Amanda Nunez was ever in Strikeforce, you

465
00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:12,840
Speaker 1: know what I mean, like she and then again Cyborg

466
00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:16,080
Speaker 1: is still in Belator doing what she's doing, so she's

467
00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:18,720
Speaker 1: had some incredible longevity. But let me just go back

468
00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:23,600
Speaker 1: to that run one more time. So, yeah, so she

469
00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:27,800
Speaker 1: beats Jesus Shanna Basler, She beat the fuck out, She

470
00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:33,679
Speaker 1: ko Shanna Basler in around. She submits Sarah McMahon inside

471
00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:36,640
Speaker 1: of a round. She has that tough fight against Chevchenko,

472
00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:37,920
Speaker 1: which we didn't know what it meant at the time,

473
00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:40,200
Speaker 1: but now we're like, yea, that's still pretty good. She

474
00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:43,760
Speaker 1: ices Misha Tate to win the title at UFC two hundred.

475
00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:47,760
Speaker 1: I mean absolutely, just demolish dude. I spoke to Misha

476
00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:51,199
Speaker 1: about that fight several times. I've had several conversations with

477
00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:56,600
Speaker 1: Misha about that fight. Misha has been unequivocal to me that, like,

478
00:25:56,680 --> 00:26:00,679
Speaker 1: she has absolutely one hundred percent never been hit that

479
00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:03,640
Speaker 1: hard in her life in a fight. The only time

480
00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:05,800
Speaker 1: she ever got hit that hard was by another man

481
00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:10,080
Speaker 1: who was going like full boar in sparring. She was like,

482
00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:12,760
Speaker 1: she was like, you don't understand. And all the time

483
00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:14,439
Speaker 1: she's been hit and remember she's been hit by like

484
00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:16,840
Speaker 1: with some big shots like Misha Tate has got a

485
00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:25,960
Speaker 1: ridiculous chin, And Misha was unequivocal she hadn't She even said, like, uh,

486
00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:28,520
Speaker 1: she was so shocked. She wasn't even sure that it

487
00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:30,159
Speaker 1: came from her, Like she didn't know if something was

488
00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:33,520
Speaker 1: wrong with her in the fight because she couldn't believe

489
00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:36,320
Speaker 1: what she had to process with that power. So she

490
00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:39,920
Speaker 1: does that. Then she ices Ronda inside of a round

491
00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:43,359
Speaker 1: then she gets the rematch against Valentina and she wins

492
00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:46,480
Speaker 1: that one, which is pretty incredible. Now that wasn't a

493
00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:49,119
Speaker 1: thrilling fight, but that was a difficult puzzle to solve.

494
00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:53,320
Speaker 1: Then she goes back to there and just destroys Raquel Pennington.

495
00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:55,360
Speaker 1: Remember Pennington didn't want to go out to the fifth round.

496
00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:58,240
Speaker 1: I was a big controversy at the time. Goes there

497
00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:02,720
Speaker 1: and then isis Cyborg inside of a minute, then goes

498
00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:05,639
Speaker 1: in ISI's Holly Holm inside of around. Then gets the

499
00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:07,639
Speaker 1: rematch against random me who was beating her on the

500
00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:10,800
Speaker 1: feet and Amanda had to resort to going to the ground,

501
00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:13,320
Speaker 1: and then on and on Felicia and Meghan and we

502
00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:16,560
Speaker 1: Alding the story against Juliana, even against Juliana, sort of

503
00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:18,639
Speaker 1: working on that South Past stance to get around some

504
00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:22,200
Speaker 1: of the problems that she was encountering. Man she has

505
00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:28,840
Speaker 1: she has to me been I think for our generation,

506
00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:31,119
Speaker 1: you know, I came up and there was a debate

507
00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:33,040
Speaker 1: about like who are some of the bigger women's or

508
00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:35,600
Speaker 1: some of the better women fighters in the sport, and

509
00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:39,840
Speaker 1: Magumi Fuji was a big one at the time. A

510
00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:42,119
Speaker 1: lot of the better women fighters were coming out of

511
00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:43,720
Speaker 1: Japan at that time, they just had a lot more

512
00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:46,000
Speaker 1: going on. There was Jewels that was running, There was

513
00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:48,359
Speaker 1: a promotion Smack Girl was another promotion that was running

514
00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:49,919
Speaker 1: out of there, but not just those two, there were

515
00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:52,679
Speaker 1: some other ones as well, So there was just a

516
00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:55,800
Speaker 1: lot more going on. And then Cyborg held the title

517
00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:59,440
Speaker 1: for a real long time, which I thought was pretty fair,

518
00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:03,359
Speaker 1: and then Amanda just came and just ran that over.

519
00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:04,960
Speaker 1: So again sort of it goes back to this, like

520
00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:08,879
Speaker 1: the Cyberg question of longevity versus not, but in a

521
00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:16,240
Speaker 1: UFC career, in a strikeforce career, this is what basically, basically,

522
00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:20,880
Speaker 1: this is what maximum achievement looks like like on the boards.

523
00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:27,480
Speaker 1: Who among your contemporaries did you face right? Did you

524
00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:33,919
Speaker 1: win okay? And if you did win, how authoritatively you know?

525
00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:42,920
Speaker 1: Like dude, Again, even fighters like Chevchenko getting a second crack,

526
00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:47,440
Speaker 1: Jermaine Derandomy getting a second crack and still getting closer

527
00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:50,240
Speaker 1: in the second fights, both cases, still not able to

528
00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:53,200
Speaker 1: get it done. Second fight with paina Painya didn't just lose,

529
00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:57,840
Speaker 1: she got whooped, right, I mean it was just really

530
00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:01,440
Speaker 1: really hard for her to eat. She had cardio issues early,

531
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:04,120
Speaker 1: I think in her fight in her career. You saw

532
00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:06,000
Speaker 1: some of that in the first ship of Chenko fight.

533
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:08,360
Speaker 1: You saw some of that I think in the Kadzanghano

534
00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:10,960
Speaker 1: fight as well. Even in that fight didn't go the

535
00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:13,880
Speaker 1: full distance. I think Amanda just didn't really know who

536
00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:17,600
Speaker 1: she was at that time. But she took that remarkable power,

537
00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:21,560
Speaker 1: that remarkable skill, and then really rounded out her game.

538
00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:26,000
Speaker 1: She gave herself. She gave herself the technical latitude to

539
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:27,920
Speaker 1: hold onto her belt and do the kinds of things

540
00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:30,320
Speaker 1: that she wanted to do right. So, like if she

541
00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:32,480
Speaker 1: had just had to strike her way out of the

542
00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:34,600
Speaker 1: Durandomy fight, it wouldn't have worked, but she had another

543
00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:37,239
Speaker 1: gear she could go to in Durandomy, had all that

544
00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:39,680
Speaker 1: time in between to get better, and it still didn't

545
00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:42,240
Speaker 1: really matter. In the end. She just came out possessed.

546
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:45,120
Speaker 1: I always felt like an Amanda always looked at her

547
00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:49,160
Speaker 1: opponents like with this kind of like jokery smile, like

548
00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:52,880
Speaker 1: why so serious kind of thing, and then we would

549
00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:54,520
Speaker 1: go in there and just be terrifying. But to me,

550
00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:58,160
Speaker 1: she's been the standard bearer in our era of mma.

551
00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:00,840
Speaker 1: She's been the standard bearer of excellent and women's mma.

552
00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:05,000
Speaker 1: She has I think redefined and shaped people's perception about

553
00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:08,600
Speaker 1: what excellence at the highest level in women's MMA looks, like,

554
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:13,280
Speaker 1: what what a what a bansam weight fighter can actually achieve?

555
00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:16,520
Speaker 1: What kind of physicality Again, I go back to it

556
00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:19,600
Speaker 1: all the time, that they can bring She just was

557
00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:23,440
Speaker 1: a really unique and up to this point, frankly historic

558
00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:30,320
Speaker 1: combination of those factors all working together. And I will

559
00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:32,560
Speaker 1: be sad that we didn't get certain fights that maybe

560
00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:36,760
Speaker 1: could have happened. A third Chifchenko fight, you know, obviously

561
00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:41,959
Speaker 1: a Kayla Harrison fight. I think with Amanda retiring and like,

562
00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:44,760
Speaker 1: you know these Kayla, I'm not really having fought sense

563
00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:48,719
Speaker 1: losing the end of last season. I don't know what

564
00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:51,240
Speaker 1: I mean. If there was any hope to bring her

565
00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:54,440
Speaker 1: to the UFC, this might close that door completely because again,

566
00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:56,280
Speaker 1: she can only get down to one forty five anyway.

567
00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:57,920
Speaker 1: So there's a few other things you would have liked

568
00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:05,760
Speaker 1: to have seen. But Amanda Nunez was always kind of pegged.

569
00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:09,720
Speaker 1: I remember you guys may remember this. She briefly trained

570
00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:11,920
Speaker 1: I think when she first came to the States. I'm

571
00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:15,840
Speaker 1: almost certain this is I had this conversation with him.

572
00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:21,160
Speaker 1: So okay, so pulling back the curtain here. I tried

573
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:25,280
Speaker 1: out for a television show long long time ago for

574
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:29,000
Speaker 1: Fuel TV, and it was right when Fuel TV was,

575
00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:31,920
Speaker 1: right before it got picked up and turned into Fox

576
00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:35,320
Speaker 1: Sports too. And to do that, we actually went out

577
00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:37,720
Speaker 1: and trained with the Miller brothers jiu jitsu coach at

578
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:40,320
Speaker 1: the time, and some of the other folks in that gym,

579
00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:42,080
Speaker 1: and they were telling me that Amanda had come through

580
00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:46,760
Speaker 1: there early, early, early in her UFC or her move

581
00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:49,680
Speaker 1: into America, and even then they were telling me she

582
00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:53,600
Speaker 1: was ferocious. She was ferocious, she would not be denied,

583
00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:56,960
Speaker 1: but that she was really wild and kind of unrefined.

584
00:31:57,120 --> 00:32:02,080
Speaker 1: She took all of that like ability and energy and

585
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:05,520
Speaker 1: focus she had and then just proceeded to skill development

586
00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:07,800
Speaker 1: her way to combine the two. Do if you can

587
00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:11,040
Speaker 1: combine those two things, like high level skill with the

588
00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:15,280
Speaker 1: kind of ferocity that comes from you know, the tough

589
00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:19,080
Speaker 1: people that come from difficult upbringings, if you can marry

590
00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:20,840
Speaker 1: those two, dude, you can do a lot with that.

591
00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:23,640
Speaker 1: But again to the getting back to the Darren ravel thing,

592
00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:26,440
Speaker 1: it kind of tells the story because all the focus

593
00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:28,880
Speaker 1: was on all of these other darlings, all of these

594
00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:32,239
Speaker 1: other bells at the ball with some good reason. They

595
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:35,600
Speaker 1: were doing some interesting work as well. Holme Tate, you

596
00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:41,400
Speaker 1: name it, Cyborg, you name it. She just went through

597
00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:46,520
Speaker 1: and took everything that she could from them in those moments,

598
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:49,280
Speaker 1: even though like she was never going to be like

599
00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:52,040
Speaker 1: the naturally popular figure, like the one that the promoter

600
00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:55,320
Speaker 1: always favored. But I get back to it again, dude,

601
00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:58,080
Speaker 1: the Darren Revel Revel failure on that is, he just

602
00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:05,080
Speaker 1: could You couldn't in any way be taken seriously as

603
00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:08,680
Speaker 1: a promotion having someone in your ranks that is like

604
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:13,600
Speaker 1: historically significant and not even bend to that will Like

605
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:16,400
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, dude, like watching them do,

606
00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:19,840
Speaker 1: like watching her do what she does. If you're a

607
00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:23,440
Speaker 1: fight fan, it's humbling, humbling to watch that, Like, holy

608
00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:28,200
Speaker 1: fucking shit, like that is that is It's terrifying, It's

609
00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:32,120
Speaker 1: it's alluring, but it gives you a sense of like

610
00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:38,760
Speaker 1: ability and purpose that she has. It's terrifying to watch that.

611
00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:42,760
Speaker 1: And I think and also like motivating and frankly inspiring.

612
00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:45,600
Speaker 1: And I think any fight fan, and I think the

613
00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:47,520
Speaker 1: people who work at the UFC are in large part

614
00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:50,600
Speaker 1: fight fans. Any fight fan just has to recognize that

615
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:52,640
Speaker 1: in the end, she just never gave them a choice.

616
00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:54,719
Speaker 1: So what a career she's had. I think she has

617
00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:59,320
Speaker 1: maximized every opportunity essentially that was available to her. People

618
00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:01,040
Speaker 1: will hold the fact she never turned into a big

619
00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:03,200
Speaker 1: star against her. Not everyone's really built for that. Not

620
00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:05,600
Speaker 1: everyone's a good candidate for that, And I don't think

621
00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:07,840
Speaker 1: that was the way she was gonna best contribute to

622
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:15,480
Speaker 1: the sport. But a Hall of Famer first ballot, easy call,

623
00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:18,879
Speaker 1: easy call A. What a career she's had. We'll talk

624
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:21,520
Speaker 1: more about that on Monday's MK. All right, let's get

625
00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:31,840
Speaker 1: to this Comaine geez us man who Charles Olivera defeats

626
00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:35,080
Speaker 1: Spaniel daryush Via. I don't know if they ruled a

627
00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:41,000
Speaker 1: k or TKO four ten of round number one. Fuck me, man,

628
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:48,400
Speaker 1: Charles Olivera is a beast. Charles Olivera is an absolute hammer.

629
00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:53,040
Speaker 1: My god. I didn't love what I was hearing out

630
00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:56,279
Speaker 1: of him, you know, uh, saying things like he hadn't

631
00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:59,480
Speaker 1: really watched the fight, and what lesson do you take

632
00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:02,480
Speaker 1: from that? Those could always mean two things. They can

633
00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:05,680
Speaker 1: mean on the bad side. I am I'm just not

634
00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:08,520
Speaker 1: going to listen to this because I know better, even

635
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:12,040
Speaker 1: though they don't necessarily know better, and like just rejection

636
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:15,040
Speaker 1: of any notion that they need to do something different.

637
00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:18,480
Speaker 1: On the other hand, they already know that they can

638
00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:22,040
Speaker 1: be different in some very significant ways, and they don't

639
00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:25,120
Speaker 1: need to watch it, because what would be the point

640
00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:29,359
Speaker 1: in an instance like that right where you fully accept Aha,

641
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:31,480
Speaker 1: I know, I know exactly what it is, and now

642
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:33,200
Speaker 1: I'm going to do it. Turn out it was more

643
00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:40,200
Speaker 1: the latter than the former. That was amazing. That was amazing,

644
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:44,680
Speaker 1: And a fight like his can be completely chaotic. It

645
00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:48,279
Speaker 1: can go to some places that aren't advantageous and they

646
00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:51,000
Speaker 1: don't necessarily look the best for him, and he can

647
00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:53,000
Speaker 1: still come out right on top. And I think that's

648
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:56,279
Speaker 1: exactly what he did. Man. Did you guys notice that

649
00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:59,880
Speaker 1: headkick he had? He blocked it high, like high on

650
00:35:59,880 --> 00:36:03,759
Speaker 1: the elbow, sorry, high on the wrist. Do you guys

651
00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:05,640
Speaker 1: notice that? And when he brings it up here, when

652
00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:08,399
Speaker 1: Darius brings it up here, it actually knocks him back

653
00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:11,279
Speaker 1: and off balance, like rather than kind of like you know,

654
00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:15,000
Speaker 1: sort of whipping around the side or or whatnot, you

655
00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:17,279
Speaker 1: kind of throw it at the end of the lever. Right.

656
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:19,440
Speaker 1: This is where the lever is it actually puts you

657
00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:21,600
Speaker 1: off balance when you get hit like that, which is

658
00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:25,279
Speaker 1: kind of interesting thing to watch. But more than that, dude,

659
00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:33,600
Speaker 1: Darry Yush, I mean, fucking dude, Charles Oliver. Oliver's resume

660
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:39,200
Speaker 1: is absurd. It's absurd. I think in all UFC, WC

661
00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:42,800
Speaker 1: pride all that any kind of any kind of fighter

662
00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:45,960
Speaker 1: who fought in there. He doesn't have the most stoppages

663
00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:49,360
Speaker 1: in that history, but he's only one behind. In UFC,

664
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:52,160
Speaker 1: he's got the most stoppages ever with twenty. I think

665
00:36:52,200 --> 00:37:00,400
Speaker 1: the next highest up is three argument for greatest set

666
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:04,560
Speaker 1: of resume, great greatest resume in terms of like who's

667
00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:07,439
Speaker 1: on there of any lightweight ever, And now he's got

668
00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:10,320
Speaker 1: losses as well, so it kind of complicates the debate.

669
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:17,640
Speaker 1: But dude, but Neil Daryush is a very skilled, skilled

670
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:21,480
Speaker 1: opponent man, a guy there's just such things called the

671
00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:23,480
Speaker 1: Daryush guard. That's actually that's a real thing. I talk

672
00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:26,680
Speaker 1: about this all the time. A guy who was very

673
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:30,760
Speaker 1: high level in jiu jitsu in the GI obviously before

674
00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:32,640
Speaker 1: and I think some of his better stuff happened in

675
00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:34,800
Speaker 1: the G than no Gi. But you know, sort of

676
00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:37,160
Speaker 1: an old school guy in that sense who learned how

677
00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:39,560
Speaker 1: to really wrestle coming off the Gamrot fight, Like no

678
00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:42,520
Speaker 1: doubt about it. There under Hafel, Cordero had turned into

679
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:46,080
Speaker 1: a nightmare of a shriker, fully experienced against the top,

680
00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:50,520
Speaker 1: learned hard, painful lessons before and can sometimes have been

681
00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:54,480
Speaker 1: shown to be baited into you know, exchanges or kind

682
00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:56,680
Speaker 1: of wild moments, but more often than not had really

683
00:37:56,719 --> 00:37:57,880
Speaker 1: come out at the better end of that. You know,

684
00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:00,600
Speaker 1: obviously that's some Barbosa fight nowithstanding, he did lose to

685
00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:02,600
Speaker 1: you know, Alexander Hernandez in a fight that he probably

686
00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:05,560
Speaker 1: should not have and some others as well. But you know,

687
00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:09,600
Speaker 1: we're talking about an extremely high skilled operator. You know,

688
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:12,040
Speaker 1: this is someone who is gonna give anyone in that

689
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:16,120
Speaker 1: division a very difficult fight, irrespective of where it takes place.

690
00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:18,200
Speaker 1: You want to fight no Doriush on the ground, good luck,

691
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:20,920
Speaker 1: you're gonna fucking need it. Right, you want to fight

692
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:25,000
Speaker 1: him on the feet, Okay, good luck, you're gonna fucking

693
00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:28,480
Speaker 1: need it. And sure enough, there were times where I

694
00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:32,560
Speaker 1: thought Daryush was taking a really you know, not conservative,

695
00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:38,360
Speaker 1: but pragmatic approach where you had well, the veric almost

696
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:40,160
Speaker 1: kind of like go for a takedown with on it

697
00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:42,360
Speaker 1: and then kind of just pull guard off of a frame.

698
00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:45,200
Speaker 1: But dude, Darrush is not gonna be in any way

699
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:48,120
Speaker 1: afraid of laying the ground and pound on you at all.

700
00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:50,960
Speaker 1: He has very, very good submission defense. And I will

701
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:54,759
Speaker 1: say this too, there was two different instances where you'll

702
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:56,120
Speaker 1: see this all the time. You saw this in the

703
00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:58,840
Speaker 1: Chandler fight, that Kevin Lee fight. One thing that Charles

704
00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:01,120
Speaker 1: does is when their opponents because why would you want

705
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:03,640
Speaker 1: to stand? Obviously you can stand and move away, you

706
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:07,160
Speaker 1: can stand and get more potential force with a strike.

707
00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:10,360
Speaker 1: But also like your best bet to passing is almost

708
00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:12,120
Speaker 1: always going to be on your feet rather than on

709
00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:14,560
Speaker 1: your knees, it's always gonna be again, not always, but

710
00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:16,520
Speaker 1: the vast majority of time, you're gonna want to be

711
00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:18,120
Speaker 1: on your feet. But as soon as guys come up,

712
00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:20,919
Speaker 1: what does Charles Olavera do. He shoots the two legs

713
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:25,080
Speaker 1: through and begins to work any number of inversions. He'll

714
00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:27,680
Speaker 1: go da la diva, He'll go reverse da la diva.

715
00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:32,360
Speaker 1: I've never seen X guard exactly, although maybe I have,

716
00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:35,479
Speaker 1: maybe I have seen one from him, but he'll he'll

717
00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:39,640
Speaker 1: do any number of inversions. He'll try and work to

718
00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:42,960
Speaker 1: the back, he'll try and grab an ankle, He'll try

719
00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:45,680
Speaker 1: and do, you know, whatever he can to you know,

720
00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:48,360
Speaker 1: get you a balance, and then go for a heel, create,

721
00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:52,160
Speaker 1: heel exposure, you name it. There was two different times,

722
00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:54,040
Speaker 1: one a little bit more successful than the other the

723
00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:56,520
Speaker 1: second of those, but neither of them were very close.

724
00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:58,000
Speaker 1: I mean they were talking about like, oh, he's got

725
00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:01,040
Speaker 1: a heel isolated while bene will is standing. It's like

726
00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:03,200
Speaker 1: he's really not going to get that, not against a

727
00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:06,360
Speaker 1: guy that skilled, you know, like dude Bimill Derusche. And

728
00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:07,680
Speaker 1: by the way he got kicked at the end of

729
00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:09,759
Speaker 1: the lever point was he do he fires a shot

730
00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:13,600
Speaker 1: right back, you know, not afraid, not afraid. For all

731
00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:17,000
Speaker 1: of the faults that Aldonna had against Nunaz, dearry Usche

732
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:20,359
Speaker 1: had none of that, None of that he did. He's

733
00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:22,400
Speaker 1: not going to show up intimidated. He's not going to

734
00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:24,520
Speaker 1: show up not in shape. He's not going to show

735
00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:26,399
Speaker 1: up not ready to go. He was all of those

736
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:30,279
Speaker 1: things and then some. But dude, fucking Charles Olivera is

737
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:35,919
Speaker 1: he is in on fights like this, and this one

738
00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:38,439
Speaker 1: looked not quite like the Parier fight looks to me looked,

739
00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:41,080
Speaker 1: you know, kind of funny for very different How do

740
00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:44,560
Speaker 1: I say this? These fights where he gets rolling downhill,

741
00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:48,200
Speaker 1: he's the toughest guy in the sport to beat when

742
00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:50,160
Speaker 1: he's doing that. You know, certainly in that division, he's

743
00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:52,360
Speaker 1: the toughest guy to beat when he's moving downhill on you.

744
00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:57,359
Speaker 1: It's a rat man. He He lands a head kick

745
00:40:57,520 --> 00:41:01,719
Speaker 1: not fully and then can continues to pressure Derry Jush

746
00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:04,480
Speaker 1: forces him to exit on the same side that he

747
00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:07,440
Speaker 1: wants to get him on right, and then throws a

748
00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:09,880
Speaker 1: one which kind of partially landed, and he gets another

749
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:14,120
Speaker 1: one and the second of those lands. It drops him.

750
00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:16,680
Speaker 1: He goes for a single, works his way out to

751
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:21,960
Speaker 1: getting to the back, which doesn't work, but Darius ends

752
00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:24,640
Speaker 1: up in a bad position and ends up just finishing

753
00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:29,000
Speaker 1: him off with strikes on top and Daryush having no

754
00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:33,520
Speaker 1: answer for it. Like the dude has offense everywhere. One

755
00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:36,840
Speaker 1: of the most hyper offensive fighters I've ever seen. He

756
00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:40,319
Speaker 1: can make, you know, suboptimal choices at time. We've talked

757
00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:41,799
Speaker 1: about how his one is to go to the back

758
00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:44,279
Speaker 1: at times can sometimes get him in trouble, but he

759
00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:45,800
Speaker 1: can get away with it because he's typically got a

760
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:48,640
Speaker 1: great guard, even against a guy like der Jush. Like,

761
00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:52,080
Speaker 1: you know, Dustin Poarier is a black belt in jiu jitsu,

762
00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:53,960
Speaker 1: and I'm sure he earned it, but he is just

763
00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:56,680
Speaker 1: not on the grappling level in the in the greater,

764
00:41:57,160 --> 00:42:00,719
Speaker 1: in the wider array of all the skills involved, as

765
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:03,200
Speaker 1: darry Use like. You can see how well he's stood

766
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:05,439
Speaker 1: up to some of the submission might and dude, darry

767
00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:08,799
Speaker 1: Us is like striking has come such a long He's

768
00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:14,040
Speaker 1: devastating on the feet too. But but Olavera just it

769
00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:17,600
Speaker 1: is every single time man, every single fight, once more

770
00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:21,680
Speaker 1: into the breach, once more into the breach, and he

771
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:25,399
Speaker 1: just goes right back into the mailstrom, driving guys back,

772
00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:28,400
Speaker 1: forcing them to exit, forcing them to make mistakes, and

773
00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:31,120
Speaker 1: then just really never giving them a lot of time

774
00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:34,320
Speaker 1: to breathe. You can see why Islam Makachev, you know,

775
00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:36,719
Speaker 1: took the game plan that he took, which was a

776
00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:39,600
Speaker 1: lot of keep the fuck away from this guy, counter

777
00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:41,799
Speaker 1: him when he gets desperate and makes mistakes. By the way,

778
00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:44,359
Speaker 1: Charles not doing a lot of that running jumping shit,

779
00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:47,200
Speaker 1: so he cut that out. I never I never liked it.

780
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:49,120
Speaker 1: It worked at times, and sometimes it gets guys to

781
00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:51,600
Speaker 1: cover up. Sometimes he gets guys to cover up and

782
00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:53,279
Speaker 1: run away in a way that you want them to.

783
00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:56,080
Speaker 1: Sometimes he gets guys to retreat to the fence line.

784
00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:58,920
Speaker 1: It's a common tactic that he uses it for, so

785
00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:01,520
Speaker 1: it has some value in certain cases, but it was

786
00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:03,640
Speaker 1: never gonna work against a guy like Daryush, so don't

787
00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:06,000
Speaker 1: use it, and he didn't. He cut all that bullshit out,

788
00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:10,279
Speaker 1: but he nevertheless just stays on top of you. There

789
00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:12,960
Speaker 1: were times that they had clinched. There were times that

790
00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:14,680
Speaker 1: there was a little bit of jocking for position in

791
00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:19,759
Speaker 1: some of that, and you could see dry Yush at

792
00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:22,400
Speaker 1: times was wanting to keep it close like Makachev did,

793
00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:26,400
Speaker 1: where if you give space to Charles Lavera on the

794
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:28,399
Speaker 1: ground or in the clinch, if you give him space,

795
00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:30,960
Speaker 1: that's when the problems begin to emerge. Right, you have

796
00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:32,960
Speaker 1: to close off those avenues, and when you break, you

797
00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:37,719
Speaker 1: break on your terms and everything else. He was not

798
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:39,239
Speaker 1: able to get a lot of that. He was able

799
00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:41,279
Speaker 1: to get some of that going, but not really enough.

800
00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:44,480
Speaker 1: But dude, he was very much his adversary. If not,

801
00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:49,759
Speaker 1: you know, defensively, Uh yeah, I thought I do up

802
00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:54,480
Speaker 1: until the round was over, the round was headed Deryusha's way, right.

803
00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:56,560
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I realized that sort of like

804
00:43:56,960 --> 00:43:59,360
Speaker 1: a weird way to put it, like, but he was

805
00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:01,960
Speaker 1: winning that fight until just he wasn't. But this is

806
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:04,120
Speaker 1: what I mean about Charles. Charles has the ability to

807
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:07,680
Speaker 1: not really be offensive in all the different phases, but

808
00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:10,280
Speaker 1: he can be offensive in sort of like unpredictable times

809
00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:14,719
Speaker 1: of disengagement. He can he can put a pace on you,

810
00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:17,319
Speaker 1: like out of nowhere, right out of nowhere, You're making

811
00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:20,120
Speaker 1: a desperate choice on the move, and all of a

812
00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:22,520
Speaker 1: sudden there's just like these massive stakes attached to it.

813
00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:24,360
Speaker 1: And they also kind of talked about this in the broadcast,

814
00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:27,600
Speaker 1: and it's worth pointing out, like Charles will American thomp Man.

815
00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:29,320
Speaker 1: And I know, we know that he's dropped guys before,

816
00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:32,960
Speaker 1: but like he and has any number again twenty finishes,

817
00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:36,800
Speaker 1: not all those certainly by submission. But the point of

818
00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:39,239
Speaker 1: being is like we know he can do those things,

819
00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:44,240
Speaker 1: but like, do we put him in the group reputationally

820
00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:47,040
Speaker 1: of guys who are like big power punchers at one

821
00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:51,120
Speaker 1: fifty five, Well, if you haven't, it's worth putting him

822
00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:52,719
Speaker 1: in there. And I gotta tell you too. A lot

823
00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:54,880
Speaker 1: of folks like they wanted in an immediate rematch. I

824
00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:58,640
Speaker 1: think if you lose your belt as thoroughly as he

825
00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:02,880
Speaker 1: lost his, I mean he he lost bad to Islam Makachev.

826
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:06,200
Speaker 1: I did think he needed to get one more win,

827
00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:11,800
Speaker 1: but dude, he gets the win, and he gets the

828
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:16,400
Speaker 1: win via stoppage inside the first round over a I

829
00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:23,080
Speaker 1: cannot overstate this a high quality opponent. He makes these

830
00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:25,359
Speaker 1: guys look look like they're not high quality. Dude, Yes

831
00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:29,040
Speaker 1: they are, these guys, and when they fight anyone else, man, like,

832
00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:32,200
Speaker 1: the depth of what they can do on the tape

833
00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:34,000
Speaker 1: study is like you have to stop and take all

834
00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:37,160
Speaker 1: these notes because it's like shit, Like the levels to

835
00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:41,640
Speaker 1: what they can, you know, pull off together is remarkable.

836
00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:45,440
Speaker 1: He did that to that guy. To me, he should

837
00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:48,319
Speaker 1: get a title shot off this run that one back. Sure,

838
00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:51,680
Speaker 1: and I know what is happening out there. You have

839
00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:57,000
Speaker 1: this Michael Chandler McGregor situation and remains unresolved. I think

840
00:45:57,080 --> 00:45:59,440
Speaker 1: is putting it lightly. Are they even gonna fight who

841
00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:03,799
Speaker 1: the hell knows? Who the hell knows? Right? So there's

842
00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:10,440
Speaker 1: that then next month, great fight. I'm not complaining. It's

843
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:13,319
Speaker 1: a great fight the rematch between Dustin Partyer and Justin

844
00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:16,600
Speaker 1: gai Chee for the BMF title. No less, you might

845
00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:18,360
Speaker 1: imagine that the winner of that is gonna be the

846
00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:20,719
Speaker 1: number one contender, And I certainly cannot tell you that

847
00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:24,319
Speaker 1: they don't deserve it. But dude, Charles Olavera finished off

848
00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:28,480
Speaker 1: both of those guys, like, we don't need to run

849
00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:32,320
Speaker 1: those back, do we? So? To me, it would be

850
00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:35,240
Speaker 1: a travesty. As much respect as I have for Dustin

851
00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:37,319
Speaker 1: and as much respect as I have for Justin gai Chee,

852
00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:41,279
Speaker 1: gonna be hard to top as an audition to be like,

853
00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:44,320
Speaker 1: not only not only for not only for Oliver to

854
00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:48,800
Speaker 1: audition kind of like and I'm back performance, but audition

855
00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:51,719
Speaker 1: to be like, Okay, who actually is the guy most

856
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:54,320
Speaker 1: deserving of a title shot? Forget my long run with

857
00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:56,480
Speaker 1: the one loss of coming off that, forget forget my

858
00:46:56,560 --> 00:46:59,120
Speaker 1: wins over those guys, just like who's got the most

859
00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:01,399
Speaker 1: credible win do? It's going to be hard in either

860
00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:12,160
Speaker 1: direction for those guys to top how just unstoppable OLIVERA

861
00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:17,560
Speaker 1: is to the overwhelming majority of that division, unstoppable to

862
00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:20,799
Speaker 1: militar like, he's got good defense, he takes less than

863
00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:25,000
Speaker 1: three significant strikes per minute on average as SAPM is,

864
00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:28,279
Speaker 1: I think two and a half. That's low. That's low

865
00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:34,120
Speaker 1: elite jiu jitsu, very good wrestling game. You guys all

866
00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:36,319
Speaker 1: saw the game. Rack fight and doesn't take a lot

867
00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:39,520
Speaker 1: of damage on the feet against It's to the overall stats.

868
00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:43,640
Speaker 1: I think. Paint that picture. And he got dusted. He

869
00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:46,040
Speaker 1: got dusted even after winning the majority of the round.

870
00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:49,720
Speaker 1: You can win so much. He just needs the tiniest window.

871
00:47:50,239 --> 00:47:53,440
Speaker 1: He just needs the tiniest window, and it all just

872
00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:56,960
Speaker 1: quickly shifts boom right over there. There's no place to

873
00:47:57,120 --> 00:48:01,200
Speaker 1: hide with him, there's no place to hide. Makachev played

874
00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:04,040
Speaker 1: a keepaway game for as long as he could and

875
00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:06,640
Speaker 1: then attacked off some of those mistakes. But going back

876
00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:08,000
Speaker 1: to it, I want to point it out one more time.

877
00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:11,319
Speaker 1: No jumping blah blah blah bullshit from Charles. He kept

878
00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:13,640
Speaker 1: his feet under him, dude, that's what you need for power.

879
00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:17,360
Speaker 1: Your feet rooted into the floor and he got it.

880
00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:23,120
Speaker 1: He got it. Amazing job by him, dude, really amazing job.

881
00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:28,400
Speaker 1: Just great purpose. You know that they've done that attack

882
00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:30,799
Speaker 1: a million times, pressing into him, force him to his side,

883
00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:33,040
Speaker 1: and then intercept him on the side. You know, they've

884
00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:36,360
Speaker 1: worked on that a million times, and they worked into perfection.

885
00:48:36,640 --> 00:48:42,719
Speaker 1: His ability to find, his ability to find the back

886
00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:49,439
Speaker 1: or the mount in all kinds of scrambles. Right where

887
00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:53,040
Speaker 1: he rocks darry USh, darry USh goes with a leg.

888
00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:55,120
Speaker 1: He then works his way to the back. Darry USh

889
00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:59,040
Speaker 1: inverts underneath to save himself, but then gets finished off

890
00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:01,600
Speaker 1: a process. But like you see what I'm saying, Like

891
00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:02,960
Speaker 1: he had to threaten the back of Drey He just

892
00:49:03,040 --> 00:49:07,200
Speaker 1: tried to answer, which was pretty interesting. But his ability

893
00:49:07,239 --> 00:49:10,600
Speaker 1: to ju I mean, it's just so insane, so insane,

894
00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:13,520
Speaker 1: what he can do in so many different places, in

895
00:49:13,719 --> 00:49:18,160
Speaker 1: high tension situations where mistakes happen frequently. It's funny he does.

896
00:49:18,239 --> 00:49:21,719
Speaker 1: He is error prone, but in those moments he's like

897
00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:26,480
Speaker 1: he just flows so naturally from one position to the next,

898
00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:29,600
Speaker 1: from one position plus technique to the next. His his

899
00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:34,520
Speaker 1: his his trees of where his route, trees of where

900
00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:37,200
Speaker 1: things are supposed to go depending on what the opponent

901
00:49:37,239 --> 00:49:39,799
Speaker 1: does or what situation that he's in. He goes through

902
00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:42,840
Speaker 1: them so quickly. He makes his reads, his progressions, so

903
00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:45,200
Speaker 1: to speak. This say in American football, he maybe he

904
00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:47,440
Speaker 1: worked through his progressions before he made his call. He

905
00:49:47,560 --> 00:49:52,719
Speaker 1: does them so fast, so fast, he's he's he is.

906
00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:56,560
Speaker 1: I didn't think he could get it done. I wondered,

907
00:49:57,040 --> 00:50:02,040
Speaker 1: how is come on beat him so easily? You wondered,

908
00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:04,400
Speaker 1: It's like, oh, right, did he just write the blueprint

909
00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:08,600
Speaker 1: on him? Yeah, good luck following it. Maybe Islam can

910
00:50:08,680 --> 00:50:13,000
Speaker 1: do that, right, because he's Islam but doesn't look like

911
00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:16,520
Speaker 1: like you know, and the distance between Banil and Islam.

912
00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:19,960
Speaker 1: The results in the fight were very different between what

913
00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:23,280
Speaker 1: Olivera had with Vanil and what Olivera had with Markachev,

914
00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:27,880
Speaker 1: like vastly different, vastly different results. But the difference in

915
00:50:28,040 --> 00:50:31,520
Speaker 1: fighter between Makachevvanil is not so significant. It's not like,

916
00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:33,640
Speaker 1: it's not it's not. It's not as pronounced as the

917
00:50:33,719 --> 00:50:39,120
Speaker 1: results were with Olivera as them as opponents. He did that, dude,

918
00:50:39,160 --> 00:50:41,200
Speaker 1: he is he is something else. Look at listen to

919
00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:46,520
Speaker 1: this fucking guy's resume. It's just you just can't believe it.

920
00:50:46,600 --> 00:50:49,120
Speaker 1: He's got a win over Banil dari Jusch via stoppage

921
00:50:49,120 --> 00:50:50,600
Speaker 1: in the first round. He's got a win over Justin

922
00:50:50,600 --> 00:50:53,600
Speaker 1: Gaichee in the first round, got a win via stoppage,

923
00:50:53,640 --> 00:50:57,000
Speaker 1: over Justin Poorier in round three. Has a win over

924
00:50:57,080 --> 00:50:59,680
Speaker 1: Michael Chandler in round two. Tony went the distance and

925
00:50:59,719 --> 00:51:01,840
Speaker 1: at the round fight which was but you know, he

926
00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:04,840
Speaker 1: got murked in that one too. Kevin Lee made it

927
00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:07,680
Speaker 1: to the third round before he got finished. Jared Gordon

928
00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:09,840
Speaker 1: got stopped in the first round. Nicko Lance got stopped

929
00:51:09,880 --> 00:51:11,759
Speaker 1: in the second round. David Tamer got stopped in the

930
00:51:11,760 --> 00:51:14,920
Speaker 1: second round. Jim Miller, Hello, Jim Miller got stopped in

931
00:51:15,080 --> 00:51:19,080
Speaker 1: the first round. Christo'schiagos got stopped in round two. Will

932
00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:21,400
Speaker 1: Brooks by the ways knocking on the door looking to

933
00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:25,160
Speaker 1: get a UFC return. He got stopped in round one.

934
00:51:25,239 --> 00:51:28,640
Speaker 1: Nicko Lance before that round three, Jeremy Stevens took an

935
00:51:28,760 --> 00:51:31,600
Speaker 1: l Hatsujuyok. You guys can't even imagine how cool that

936
00:51:31,680 --> 00:51:33,719
Speaker 1: win was when he got it all the way back

937
00:51:33,719 --> 00:51:36,200
Speaker 1: in twenty fourteen. Hatsu Huyok was a beast coming out

938
00:51:36,239 --> 00:51:39,360
Speaker 1: of Japan. Boy, he got dummied in that one. Andy

939
00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:41,759
Speaker 1: Ogle got tied up as well, and Jonathan Brookins, and

940
00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:43,880
Speaker 1: on and on it goes on. There, Darren Elkins, Efrey

941
00:51:44,040 --> 00:51:50,359
Speaker 1: Escadero before that, dude, this guy's resume is fucking bananas? Bananas?

942
00:51:50,360 --> 00:51:52,719
Speaker 1: Who's on this one? Man? Can you imagine if I

943
00:51:52,760 --> 00:51:54,799
Speaker 1: between him and Connor? That'd be a bad fight for Connor, right,

944
00:51:54,840 --> 00:51:56,800
Speaker 1: I mean Connor can thump and this dude takes punishment

945
00:51:56,800 --> 00:51:59,799
Speaker 1: a little bit, but I wouldn't like that for him.

946
00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:03,600
Speaker 1: You know, how many guys would you actually pick to

947
00:52:03,800 --> 00:52:06,520
Speaker 1: straight up beat Charles Olvera on the UFC roster at

948
00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:10,439
Speaker 1: one fifty five? Like just Markachev? Right? Like? I don't

949
00:52:10,440 --> 00:52:12,680
Speaker 1: know who else you would have straight up pick on

950
00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:16,919
Speaker 1: that roster to like, like, who else? What lightweight would

951
00:52:16,960 --> 00:52:20,640
Speaker 1: you pick? Generally besides Markachev? Would you pick? I mean

952
00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:25,480
Speaker 1: who's active? Anyway? That is nuts? And you know it

953
00:52:25,640 --> 00:52:28,759
Speaker 1: was interesting that what did he call it? He because

954
00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:31,440
Speaker 1: he had finished Chandler, he had finished Alvarez, and he

955
00:52:31,480 --> 00:52:36,719
Speaker 1: had finished gae Chee. Portia wanted to be like, you know,

956
00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:39,120
Speaker 1: the captain of the all violence team. Yeah, fair enough.

957
00:52:39,360 --> 00:52:41,759
Speaker 1: I mean, you beat that, you beat the you beat

958
00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:45,080
Speaker 1: those guys, you deserve a special title. But what about

959
00:52:45,120 --> 00:52:48,799
Speaker 1: the guy who finished those other? Two dudes? Didn't get

960
00:52:48,800 --> 00:52:50,600
Speaker 1: a chance to fight Eddie? Probably wouldn't. I mean, you

961
00:52:50,640 --> 00:52:53,480
Speaker 1: would imagine you would pick Olivera over Eddie At this point,

962
00:52:53,560 --> 00:52:57,680
Speaker 1: Eddie obviously not in the UFC, but dude, that the

963
00:52:57,840 --> 00:53:00,160
Speaker 1: amount of high it goes back to them in a

964
00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:03,120
Speaker 1: new nest thing like the amount of high quality names

965
00:53:03,160 --> 00:53:05,640
Speaker 1: on there that are just like round one, round two,

966
00:53:05,719 --> 00:53:08,760
Speaker 1: round one, round three, one two, just getting just getting

967
00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:15,920
Speaker 1: pieced up. It's insane. It's insane. How long have I

968
00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:17,440
Speaker 1: been going on in this one? How long have you

969
00:53:17,520 --> 00:53:21,200
Speaker 1: been running fifty seven? All right, let's talk about a

970
00:53:21,239 --> 00:53:23,360
Speaker 1: little bit of this rest of this card, which was

971
00:53:24,520 --> 00:53:30,520
Speaker 1: fights were fine. They were not really, they were fine.

972
00:53:31,120 --> 00:53:33,800
Speaker 1: They were fine. Not a lot of star power on

973
00:53:33,840 --> 00:53:37,040
Speaker 1: the card. I'm not going to rehash that they were. Okay,

974
00:53:37,719 --> 00:53:42,160
Speaker 1: Mike Mallott defeating Adam Fuggett or is it Fuget, No,

975
00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:45,520
Speaker 1: it's a huge fu get I don't know. Fuget is

976
00:53:45,719 --> 00:53:51,680
Speaker 1: how they said it, right, fuge Mike. Mike Mallott hits

977
00:53:51,719 --> 00:53:54,400
Speaker 1: him of the bodykick open to open the fight, and

978
00:53:54,760 --> 00:53:56,480
Speaker 1: you could see it. It is one of these numbers

979
00:53:56,520 --> 00:53:59,520
Speaker 1: to him and he hangs on, but he get He

980
00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:02,600
Speaker 1: kept getting cracked over and over again. He gets finally

981
00:54:02,680 --> 00:54:05,359
Speaker 1: in the second round, he got cracked with a stance

982
00:54:05,400 --> 00:54:07,239
Speaker 1: switch I believe a left hand that sits them. I

983
00:54:07,320 --> 00:54:09,800
Speaker 1: believe that's right. In any case, He then jumps on

984
00:54:10,040 --> 00:54:13,239
Speaker 1: a guillotine and then has to readjust it once, but

985
00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:15,279
Speaker 1: once they turned him ount he gets it and puts

986
00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:17,840
Speaker 1: him away. Mike Mallott looks like an interesting character that

987
00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:19,640
Speaker 1: It looks like he's done well for himself down there

988
00:54:19,640 --> 00:54:24,440
Speaker 1: at Team Alfamel. He's relatively young. Canada needs some faces.

989
00:54:24,600 --> 00:54:26,239
Speaker 1: He looks like he could be useful for the UFC

990
00:54:26,280 --> 00:54:27,839
Speaker 1: if they want to go back to Canada more often.

991
00:54:27,920 --> 00:54:31,359
Speaker 1: So nice win by him. Dan Egay defeating Nate Land

992
00:54:31,360 --> 00:54:33,239
Speaker 1: where dan Egay was just a step ahead basically the

993
00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:35,799
Speaker 1: whole time. Land Where had some interesting attacks up the middle.

994
00:54:35,800 --> 00:54:37,239
Speaker 1: Some of the teeps were getting through that was kind

995
00:54:37,239 --> 00:54:40,160
Speaker 1: of interesting. He showed him a little uppercut action as well,

996
00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:45,239
Speaker 1: but Danny Gay's ability is to shift drop shift aka

997
00:54:45,480 --> 00:54:48,920
Speaker 1: stance switch was just too much for him. He was

998
00:54:48,960 --> 00:54:50,920
Speaker 1: able to find a lot of openings himself with the

999
00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:53,799
Speaker 1: left hand as well. I think he dropped land Were

1000
00:54:53,880 --> 00:54:56,080
Speaker 1: in the first round with the left hand, badly dropped

1001
00:54:56,120 --> 00:54:57,920
Speaker 1: him in the second round with the left hand, and

1002
00:54:58,040 --> 00:55:01,480
Speaker 1: more or less either classroom er you know did enough

1003
00:55:01,520 --> 00:55:05,320
Speaker 1: to obviously hung on and got the win. Egay afterwards

1004
00:55:05,320 --> 00:55:06,960
Speaker 1: said he was not really happy. You know what, it's

1005
00:55:07,000 --> 00:55:09,200
Speaker 1: kind of funny. E Gay to me is really you

1006
00:55:09,280 --> 00:55:12,160
Speaker 1: heard Pulfielder kind of talk about it. E Gay is like,

1007
00:55:12,320 --> 00:55:17,600
Speaker 1: to me, the most advanced, probably best version of the

1008
00:55:17,920 --> 00:55:23,040
Speaker 1: Nixiic theory of fighting. So obviously, like Francis was not

1009
00:55:23,160 --> 00:55:25,040
Speaker 1: the UFC champion anymore, but you know, has a claim

1010
00:55:25,040 --> 00:55:26,200
Speaker 1: to be the heavy weight in the world, and so

1011
00:55:26,280 --> 00:55:29,120
Speaker 1: in that sense, Francis has obviously has done you know,

1012
00:55:29,320 --> 00:55:32,600
Speaker 1: gone further in the sport. But e Gay in terms

1013
00:55:32,640 --> 00:55:35,440
Speaker 1: of all the things that he does, to me more

1014
00:55:35,560 --> 00:55:41,040
Speaker 1: closely represents like what Nixick is trying to do. And

1015
00:55:41,160 --> 00:55:43,560
Speaker 1: he looked good for the most part. He looked good. Uh.

1016
00:55:46,040 --> 00:55:48,279
Speaker 1: Took a little bit of punishment in the third as

1017
00:55:48,320 --> 00:55:51,800
Speaker 1: I mentioned, but in general he was the one busier.

1018
00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:54,480
Speaker 1: He was the one landing heavier shots. He was the

1019
00:55:54,560 --> 00:56:00,600
Speaker 1: one who's more accurate. He avoided long brawls with land

1020
00:56:00,640 --> 00:56:02,759
Speaker 1: we are good job. And then to open the card

1021
00:56:03,120 --> 00:56:07,239
Speaker 1: mark Andre Barrio defeating Eric Anders thirty twenty seven, which

1022
00:56:07,239 --> 00:56:09,799
Speaker 1: seemed a little off to me, but reck guy won

1023
00:56:11,040 --> 00:56:15,920
Speaker 1: basically when they were close together, Anders or Anders was

1024
00:56:16,360 --> 00:56:19,600
Speaker 1: a little bit stronger, more dominant in that position, and

1025
00:56:19,680 --> 00:56:23,160
Speaker 1: then at range Barrio was clearly better. And then the

1026
00:56:23,200 --> 00:56:26,000
Speaker 1: long story short is that at range Barrio was able

1027
00:56:26,040 --> 00:56:27,720
Speaker 1: to just do better work. It was they were open

1028
00:56:27,760 --> 00:56:30,359
Speaker 1: stance for the majority of that contest, I believe Brent,

1029
00:56:31,360 --> 00:56:33,279
Speaker 1: and so he was able to work the outside angle

1030
00:56:33,360 --> 00:56:37,680
Speaker 1: that he needed at at times. Fun fight, it was fine,

1031
00:56:37,800 --> 00:56:41,160
Speaker 1: nothing particularly interesting. There's more on the prelim card that

1032
00:56:41,200 --> 00:56:42,520
Speaker 1: I want to talk about. We have to say that

1033
00:56:42,640 --> 00:56:46,960
Speaker 1: for a different time. I didn't really solicit for tweets,

1034
00:56:47,080 --> 00:56:49,640
Speaker 1: but if we have any, I will take a look

1035
00:56:49,680 --> 00:57:00,319
Speaker 1: at it. Let's see real quickly, not really and put

1036
00:57:00,360 --> 00:57:04,640
Speaker 1: a whole lot out This person rights didn't like Charles

1037
00:57:04,719 --> 00:57:07,040
Speaker 1: closing his guard, staying on his back going for subs.

1038
00:57:07,080 --> 00:57:09,560
Speaker 1: I didn't mind that, but he showed improvement by getting

1039
00:57:09,600 --> 00:57:12,880
Speaker 1: up and striking. Sure Islam has better defense than Benildo

1040
00:57:12,960 --> 00:57:16,040
Speaker 1: and handles pressure better. We'll definitely handles pressure better, but

1041
00:57:16,240 --> 00:57:20,240
Speaker 1: I don't know if he's got better defense like pure

1042
00:57:20,320 --> 00:57:26,640
Speaker 1: submission defense. I don't think that's quite right. Did you

1043
00:57:26,680 --> 00:57:29,200
Speaker 1: see anything new in the fight against darry Yust that

1044
00:57:29,280 --> 00:57:32,560
Speaker 1: the rematch against Islam goes differently? One again, the jumping

1045
00:57:33,200 --> 00:57:36,200
Speaker 1: switch thing stopping all that bullshit. That's a big one.

1046
00:57:37,560 --> 00:57:40,280
Speaker 1: I didn't I'd rather see the Islam versus Bolkanowski two

1047
00:57:40,320 --> 00:57:44,120
Speaker 1: or BMF winner. I disagree with that a little bit. Okay,

1048
00:57:45,760 --> 00:57:48,360
Speaker 1: so that is it. That is it. There's more that happened,

1049
00:57:48,400 --> 00:57:50,600
Speaker 1: but we'll have more for this at a later day.

1050
00:57:52,640 --> 00:57:55,240
Speaker 1: Not the greatest UFC card of all time, but here

1051
00:57:55,320 --> 00:57:57,800
Speaker 1: I am at two in the morning, still talking about it,

1052
00:57:57,880 --> 00:57:59,960
Speaker 1: so it's got to be worth something. Thank you guys

1053
00:58:00,080 --> 00:58:02,680
Speaker 1: so much for watching. I greatly appreciate a reminder. Monday

1054
00:58:03,080 --> 00:58:06,320
Speaker 1: Live eleven am in the East. Right here we go,

1055
00:58:07,040 --> 00:58:10,640
Speaker 1: LTBC MK be there, fuck faces, be there for us.

1056
00:58:11,000 --> 00:58:13,000
Speaker 1: Do that kind of shit. We love it when you do.

1057
00:58:13,840 --> 00:58:17,080
Speaker 1: Get some sleep. If you're up late like me, don't

1058
00:58:17,120 --> 00:58:21,280
Speaker 1: drink and drive and uh yeah that'll be that, boys

1059
00:58:21,280 --> 00:58:24,400
Speaker 1: and girls. Until next time, stay Frosty and all that

1060
00:58:24,440 --> 00:58:26,880
Speaker 1: good shit out there. Yay bye