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Speaker 1: Josh Clark. There's Charles W Chuck Bryant. I'm talking weird
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Speaker 1: let's do this all right, okay, um, Chuck, Josh, Yeah,
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Speaker 1: have you ever heard the terrorism? Terror? Terror? War? Is
Speaker 1: no terror? Or? I know? I have a thick tongue
Speaker 1: terror or terror? Yes? I have you have? Yes? Did
Speaker 1: you know it's from the French? Um? I did not know. That.
Speaker 1: Pretty surprising, isn't it? It is to me it's from
Speaker 1: the French. Terrorism. That's how I assume it's pronounced. You
Speaker 1: have to say it like you're condescending. Sorry, uh yeah, nice, um.
Speaker 1: But it was coined during the reign of terror in
Speaker 1: the sev during the French Revolution, So uh, did it
Speaker 1: have the same meaning like unconventional means of warfare that
Speaker 1: involved citizens. It was basically it did have roughly the
Speaker 1: same the same meaning in that it involves citizens. This
Speaker 1: is the one thing that terrorism is always pointed to.
Speaker 1: It's um. It's it's when citizens, innocence are casualties, are
Speaker 1: directly involved in big problems. Yeah, and not just you know,
Speaker 1: of course there's casualties all the time, including nowadays with
Speaker 1: US drone strikes and our own wars, but literally abandoning
Speaker 1: the rules of war, which we've done a podcast on
Speaker 1: in favor of you know, homemade guerilla tactics to all
Speaker 1: outside those rules and to terrorize people and to terrorize people,
Speaker 1: but you're you're directly targeting normal, everyday citizens, which there
Speaker 1: in lies the terror right. So terrorism, it's been around
Speaker 1: the last couple of hundred years, although in the US
Speaker 1: here it's it's just only in the I guess the
Speaker 1: fifties it started to become kind of a household word.
Speaker 1: Definitely by the eighties. Once um, hijackers started taking over
Speaker 1: airplanes all over the place. We knew what terrorists were. Yeah, boy,
Speaker 1: remember that hijacking was such a big deal because I
Speaker 1: used to be terrified of that, and of course that
Speaker 1: was a central component of nine eleven. But um like
Speaker 1: hijacking as far as just taking over the plane, that
Speaker 1: was like a big deal back in the day. Remember
Speaker 1: that very iconic image of the terrorists holding a gun
Speaker 1: to that pilot's head on a tarmac and I think
Speaker 1: cypress and leaning out the window. Yeah, I remember that.
Speaker 1: It was before they had the good sense to keep
Speaker 1: those doors secure or use metal detector before you got
Speaker 1: on the plate, so you couldn't get a forty five
Speaker 1: onto a plane. You're just on the plane smoking your
Speaker 1: cigarette with your gun, right exactly. Pilots doors open, if
Speaker 1: you want to tour the cockpit, just come on up, right.
Speaker 1: Do you mind taking your burlap hood off right so
Speaker 1: we can see who you are? Man? Things were so lax,
Speaker 1: so weird, so um. So we we came to understand
Speaker 1: terrorism from maybe the sixties of the eighties on. But
Speaker 1: the United States has been dealing with terrorism literally since
Speaker 1: the moment it was born. Especially if you call piracy terrorism,
Speaker 1: and for our purposes today we will yes to fall
Speaker 1: in line with the title of this article. We're going
Speaker 1: to yes. Uh, from the moment we gained our independence
Speaker 1: from England before them, yeah, before then, because Europe was
Speaker 1: dealing with it as well. He's um on the North
Speaker 1: African Coast, the Barbary Coast, so named for the Barbarossa brothers. Yeah,
Speaker 1: care and Dean. No, that's sorry, that's one guy. Car
Speaker 1: Dean was one Barbarossa. Yeah, I'm not quite sure who
Speaker 1: he was, but there were brothers, a rouge and his ear. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and Barbara Rossa, Barbara Beard Rosa, Red red Beard, red Beard,
Speaker 1: just like the Ferrari Testa Rosa, the Red Testes exactly.
Speaker 1: And uh like former quarterback then he Testa Verde. But
Speaker 1: my friend he's called Bevinny green Balls, so I thought
Speaker 1: was pretty funny. And he played that he was like
Speaker 1: fifty so he probably did have said he played for
Speaker 1: the books, right. Oh, he played for a bunch of teams.
Speaker 1: He was known to play for the Buccaneers, he was
Speaker 1: and then later with the Jets, and he was all
Speaker 1: over the place. Yeah, I was just associated with the Buccaneers. Yeah,
Speaker 1: well he I think he played a portion of his
Speaker 1: career there, but when he played for twenty five years
Speaker 1: or whatever, you're gonna get around. You know, there was
Speaker 1: never a better Heyday for team logos than there were
Speaker 1: than the seventies and eighties. Like the old Raiders logo,
Speaker 1: which I guess is still around that the Raiders stay
Speaker 1: pretty concer but the Buccaneers used to have a great
Speaker 1: one orange. The New England Patriots had like that min
Speaker 1: man who was ready to hike the ball. They were,
Speaker 1: They were just great. The Pittsburgh Pirates had probably one
Speaker 1: of the better ones of all time. Uh well, yeah
Speaker 1: they were baseball of course, sure, I know, yeah, I
Speaker 1: said sports logos. Okay, I think I said sports. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're talking about the old stove top hats that the
Speaker 1: Pirates were at the flat Caps they had. Oh yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: those are awesome with the yellow bands. Yeah they were terrible.
Speaker 1: So speaking of Pirates, we were talking about the brothers
Speaker 1: red Beard, Barbarossa and um. These guys were actually Turks,
Speaker 1: but the Spaniards were the ones who named them. Barbarossa
Speaker 1: and the Spaniards were well versed in the school of
Speaker 1: the Blade, taught by a rouge and his year Barbarossa. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and these pirates specifically were helping out Muslim Moore's driven
Speaker 1: away from Spain by Christians, and this just reinforced to
Speaker 1: me like Christians and Muslims, man, they've been fighting for
Speaker 1: a long time, like anything you see on the news
Speaker 1: these days, just like, yeah, this has got quite a
Speaker 1: bit of history here. Yeah, is a really big year
Speaker 1: for Spain. Sent Columbus over here to the New World
Speaker 1: and drove the um Spanish Muslims a k a. The
Speaker 1: Moops from Spain or they the moops, No, the Moors.
Speaker 1: Remember that Seinfeld where he's playing can we pursue with
Speaker 1: Bubble Boy and he's like the Moors. He goes, no,
Speaker 1: it's the moops. Yeah, I forgot about that. I feel
Speaker 1: silly because I thought that might have been. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: the Spaniards like Moore's moops. Who cares? Okay. So after
Speaker 1: this happens, the Mediterranean Sea right there between North Africa
Speaker 1: and Southern Europe, all of a sudden, because it was
Speaker 1: such a heavily traveled trade route, became a haven for
Speaker 1: piracy because there was lots of stuff to booty, Yeah,
Speaker 1: lots of stuff to lots of booty to pillage. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because at this time it was that was the route
Speaker 1: between Europe and the East Indies, and that's where Europe
Speaker 1: was making all of its money from the spice trade
Speaker 1: and all that um. And so to get there you
Speaker 1: had to go through the Mediterranean. When the Christians drove
Speaker 1: the Moors to North Africa, and of course the North
Speaker 1: Africans are like, hey, we're living here, the Berber folks,
Speaker 1: and that where Barbary comes from. No Barbary comes from Barbarossa.
Speaker 1: Oh I thought it said it was so named for
Speaker 1: the Berber people. Know, the Barbarossa brothers. Those guys were
Speaker 1: so bad they named the entire North African coast after them,
Speaker 1: the four states of uh, Algiers, Tunis, Morocco, and Tripoli,
Speaker 1: which is what we know know is liberal Libya, liberty.
Speaker 1: That's the Barbary Coast named after the Barbarosis. So you've
Speaker 1: got all this piracy going on. It's stepping up in
Speaker 1: earnest after and everybody's just getting taken every which way
Speaker 1: but Sunday, that's right, Uh, every which way. So Muslims
Speaker 1: and Christians were both you know, getting it on the
Speaker 1: piracy game. We don't want to like sling stones to
Speaker 1: good point only at the Muslims. But um, because of
Speaker 1: where it was, it was just a haven for it.
Speaker 1: And I think you point out this is your article right, Um,
Speaker 1: in the seventeenth century at one point and estimated twenty
Speaker 1: people were captured by the Barbaries and held in Algiers alone.
Speaker 1: Twenty thousand kidnappings. That's like a couple of good sized
Speaker 1: cities back then. Yeah, that's significant. So they were doing
Speaker 1: a pretty good job. I guess it's the piracy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's like the average attendance on a Tuesday night of
Speaker 1: a Pittsburgh Pirates game in the late seventies. Tuesday night,
Speaker 1: late seventies. Yeah, they were pretty good. Yeah, but Roberto
Speaker 1: Clemente era, he can fill those seats. He was earlier
Speaker 1: than that. But yeah, the Willie Stargel era, that's what
Speaker 1: I said. Let's call it that. Um so European. They
Speaker 1: they did so much pirating. They thought, you know what,
Speaker 1: we can make more money if we start to extort people.
Speaker 1: Not only can we pillage their booty, we can extort
Speaker 1: money from them a k a. Getting tributes paid, Yeah,
Speaker 1: which is really just extortion. It's a protection racket. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was. We will protect you from ourselves. These guys
Speaker 1: are like Sicilians. All of a sudden, it's like, hey,
Speaker 1: we wouldn't want anything to happen to your ship. Give
Speaker 1: us some money, we'll make sure it doesn't. But they
Speaker 1: weren't even as sly as the average Sicilian. They said,
Speaker 1: if you don't give us money, we're going to attack
Speaker 1: your ships, take your goods, and kidnap your crews. And
Speaker 1: they had certain things so in addition to to tribute
Speaker 1: and then capturing goods, kidnapping a person could be kind
Speaker 1: of lucrative no matter what the person's station was socially. Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: because well, first of all, pay us if and we
Speaker 1: won't kidnap you, and then we will kidnap you and
Speaker 1: then get try and get you to pay us the ransom,
Speaker 1: or if you won't do that, then we'll just sell
Speaker 1: you as a slave. And we're gonna make money one
Speaker 1: way or the other, one way or another. If you
Speaker 1: are a member of a Barbary state and you're a pirate,
Speaker 1: you know how to make some coin. Yeah, And it
Speaker 1: was such a racket that nations included line items and
Speaker 1: their budgets to pay these tributes. It was like an actual.
Speaker 1: I guess you'd call it legit. I mean, it wasn't
Speaker 1: legitimate because it was uh, you know, plundering, but they
Speaker 1: legitimately included it as like, hey, we gotta pay these
Speaker 1: guys off exactly this much money per year, so we
Speaker 1: just gotta think about that. Yeah. Um, and the I
Speaker 1: think the United States in its four fiscal budget had
Speaker 1: eight grand set aside to pay as tribute to Barbary governments. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that is crazy. And um, that was actually small at first.
Speaker 1: Two Well yeah it um, I think you pointing out
Speaker 1: it goes up to a million dollars by and they
Speaker 1: paid a million dollars annually for fifteen years. It's a
Speaker 1: lot of coin. Back then. That was ten percent of
Speaker 1: the federal annual income at the time. Well million bucks.
Speaker 1: The reason it went up so much was the Barbary
Speaker 1: states actually had tribute on a sliding scale. They they
Speaker 1: the European nations right at the time. If you think
Speaker 1: of them as corporations, because essentially it's what they were,
Speaker 1: Like the British East India Company was pretty much one
Speaker 1: and the same as the British government. Um, they would
Speaker 1: use the Barbary pirates to um, they would use their
Speaker 1: diplomats to get the Barbary pirates to attack some nations
Speaker 1: leave theirs alone. They would pay some tribute, but they
Speaker 1: were It was definitely part of the political maneuvering was
Speaker 1: to just kind of keep this Mediterranean shipping channel open
Speaker 1: for the superpowers and squeeze out the little guys. Well
Speaker 1: of Barbaries were like, yeah, we like making money from you,
Speaker 1: but we also want to make it from the little
Speaker 1: guys too, So we're gonna establish the sliding scale and
Speaker 1: based on the size of your economy, that's how much
Speaker 1: tribute we're going to extract from you. And when the
Speaker 1: US was born, they're like, oh, you're tiny, just give
Speaker 1: us like eighty grant how about that? And then within
Speaker 1: like ten years they were like, oh, yeah, you guys
Speaker 1: have a whole continent of raw material. You show no
Speaker 1: scruples that stealing it um from the natives who are
Speaker 1: living there, right, So how about a million a year
Speaker 1: from So they did that for fifteen years. Um. One
Speaker 1: of the main reasons they did this for so long
Speaker 1: was because they were trying to form a navy. They
Speaker 1: didn't even have a navy at this point the US. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then in fact this is why the navy was born.
Speaker 1: It would have been born at some point anyway, because
Speaker 1: you need a navy. But this is what really spurred
Speaker 1: the creation of the navy in the US. And Thomas
Speaker 1: Jefferson comes along and was, like I told John Adams,
Speaker 1: was like, dude, we can't be paying these this old
Speaker 1: world stuff and worrying about paying off these tributes to
Speaker 1: these guys. Like we got to expand west brother, Like
Speaker 1: this is where it's at. We're sitting here playing these
Speaker 1: old games, paying these guys money and trading and over
Speaker 1: the Atlantic. Screw that, Let's just stay over here, expand westward,
Speaker 1: and that's where the future of this country is. Right.
Speaker 1: He also made a pretty good point that it would
Speaker 1: be more cost effective to take that million bucks and
Speaker 1: put it into a navy and pound the Barbary States
Speaker 1: into submission, then to just keep paying him a million
Speaker 1: dollars a year, you know, ad infinite. Um. I wonder
Speaker 1: what the because this is while they were doing this,
Speaker 1: concurrently they were building a navy to try and stop this.
Speaker 1: Like if that was ten, I wonder how much it
Speaker 1: costs to build the navy, Like a substantial portion of
Speaker 1: the federal government's funds was tied up and stopping this
Speaker 1: at the time, including building the navy, paying these ransoms
Speaker 1: or tributes or extortion fees depend which way one. And
Speaker 1: it was a big problem, like we said, right out
Speaker 1: of the gate um. But it wasn't handled for a
Speaker 1: while because Jefferson ideas, I guess, his westward expansion concept
Speaker 1: and then building a navy rather than paying tribute um.
Speaker 1: He was in the minority. He was the diplomat that
Speaker 1: succeeded Benjamin Franklin, who was the America's first diplomat or France.
Speaker 1: And Benjamin Franklin had he took the tech that most
Speaker 1: people at the time took, which was this was just
Speaker 1: part of doing business with the East Indies, and you know,
Speaker 1: we'll we'll do what we can. Before we used to
Speaker 1: be under the protection of Great Britain. While we split
Speaker 1: from Great Britain, we're not under the protection anymore. We're
Speaker 1: still kind of a fledge nation, so we need a
Speaker 1: protection of superpower. So Franklin knew how to charm the French,
Speaker 1: and he set up the Treaty of Amity and Commerce
Speaker 1: of seventeen seventeen seventy eight just directly addresses this pretty much. Yeah.
Speaker 1: It actually had mentioned the Barbary nations by name in
Speaker 1: this treaty and basically said France, you got help us
Speaker 1: out here in the Mediterranean and France said okay. They
Speaker 1: did say okay, which is good. So Jefferson, Um, he
Speaker 1: doesn't have any real pull at this point yet. It
Speaker 1: was not until he became president that actually really enact
Speaker 1: his plan, which was to get out of this whole mess. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and once he did, he basically said, you guys are toasted. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean, as soon as he was sworn into office,
Speaker 1: the Turkish ruler Pasha demanded an extra two hundred and
Speaker 1: fifty dollars from this new administration. They were like, well,
Speaker 1: you're the new guy. Well we just need a bonus
Speaker 1: payment because you're now in office, right, And I, Um,
Speaker 1: I looked this up. I was like, god, I thought
Speaker 1: that was so much money. Back then it was about
Speaker 1: three million dollars. It was less than three million, which
Speaker 1: is not that much. Yeah, and you never hear about this,
Speaker 1: Like I didn't learn this in high school. No, I know,
Speaker 1: you know, I remember getting out of high school and realizing, like,
Speaker 1: there's so much more to history. Yeah, I didn't realize
Speaker 1: what else Jefferson was doing in Paris. You know, he
Speaker 1: was doing a lot of crazy stuff. Yeah, and some
Speaker 1: not so crazy romantic things. But you didn't learn about
Speaker 1: that in high school either, about him. I bet I
Speaker 1: wonder if they teach that stuff now. I'd be curious
Speaker 1: to sit in on a high school history class. I
Speaker 1: imagine it's very much the same. Yeah, there's a certain uh,
Speaker 1: there's a certain school of thought that you're indoctrinated into,
Speaker 1: and there's stuff you need to know and things you
Speaker 1: shouldn't know, and you don't need to know about that.
Speaker 1: We don't need to talk about that kind of thing.
Speaker 1: And then college was where I first started getting my
Speaker 1: real education, had some really good history teachers. Yeah. Um,
Speaker 1: all right, So where are we? We are in office
Speaker 1: as Jefferson, Yes, and he already hates the Barbary States
Speaker 1: because he's been trying to get everybody to turn against
Speaker 1: him for fifteen years. He's finally got the power to
Speaker 1: do something about it. That's right. Uh, they had taken
Speaker 1: control of a couple of crew members captured American chips
Speaker 1: and they and you know what, we'll release these guys
Speaker 1: if you increase your tribute. And Jefferson said enough of
Speaker 1: this crap. We've got ships now, six of them. I
Speaker 1: think at first, Yeah, that's cute. You gotta start small,
Speaker 1: and we're coming over to pay you a little visit
Speaker 1: in our ships. And the First Barbary War from e
Speaker 1: ten o one to eighteen o five, Uh, it was,
Speaker 1: it was, but pretty happen in war. I mean it
Speaker 1: was mostly at sea and it lasted four years, right, yeah,
Speaker 1: But um, at one point they captured Uh well they
Speaker 1: captured because the US the USS Philadelphia I think, ran
Speaker 1: aground and got stuck. So this is one sixth of
Speaker 1: the entire US fleet at the time, I think, so, yeah,
Speaker 1: so I got stuck and like working order still, So
Speaker 1: they captured the ship, take control of the crew, and
Speaker 1: they used the ship as a gun battery against us
Speaker 1: because it's just parked right there, I guess cannons aimed
Speaker 1: out towards the sea. So they just used it that
Speaker 1: way for a while. And um, it was Stephen Decatur,
Speaker 1: Lieutenant Stephen Decatur of the Navy led some marines and
Speaker 1: recaptured the ship and burned it so they couldn't use it.
Speaker 1: And that guy is he's I think there are forty
Speaker 1: six communities in the United States named Decatur, including one
Speaker 1: where you live right here in Atlanta, and Jerry So
Speaker 1: named yeah, and Jerry So named for Stephen Decatur. And
Speaker 1: there's a pick there's a statue. Is that Decatur Jefferson?
Speaker 1: I think there's a Decatur statue right there at the
Speaker 1: is the one that we shot at though, Was that Jefferson? Oh?
Speaker 1: Was that Jefferson the guy writing? You know, man, I
Speaker 1: don't even know that's sad, like molested the statue. We
Speaker 1: don't even know what statue was, but I know there
Speaker 1: is a Decatur monument in the center of Decatur. Stephen Decator,
Speaker 1: he was, but yeah, this is where he really kind
Speaker 1: of proved his stripes as an admiral. And apparently he
Speaker 1: came very close to being killed. But one of his
Speaker 1: crew members when they were going to attack the Philadelphia,
Speaker 1: one of his crew members threw himself in between Decatur
Speaker 1: and a barbary I guess pirate, and um, he survived,
Speaker 1: but like he threw himself in in between the sword
Speaker 1: and Decatur and Decatur went on to um even greater stuff. Um.
Speaker 1: But yeah, so they destroy the Philadelphia. They get out
Speaker 1: very daring and you said marines were there, Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean led by a naval officer, but it was definitely
Speaker 1: the Marines the dirty work. And that's why if you
Speaker 1: listen to the Marine Corps him in the first line,
Speaker 1: it's from the halls of Montezuma to the shores of Tripoli.
Speaker 1: This is what they're talking about. Pretty cool. Um. So
Speaker 1: the First Barbary War last from eighteen o one to
Speaker 1: eighteen o five, it was mostly with Tripoli. They're the
Speaker 1: ones who were giving us the most trouble. Tunis and
Speaker 1: l Jeers Um basically said, you know what, We're just
Speaker 1: gonna stand over here for a little bit. We're fine.
Speaker 1: We all of our alliances with you were not to
Speaker 1: break up. We're pirates. We're all pirates, everybody, What did
Speaker 1: you expect? And then several years later, Thomas Jefferson retires
Speaker 1: the Monticello and James Monroe comes into the presidency and
Speaker 1: we have trouble again, but this time it's with Tunis
Speaker 1: and l Jeers and James Monroe takes a totally different
Speaker 1: tack than Thomas Jefferson. I think because we had a
Speaker 1: much bigger navy by then. For the Second Barbary War,
Speaker 1: was it just a little more aggressive we just went
Speaker 1: into the coast of Tunis and Algiers impounded their cities
Speaker 1: with our cannons and they said, okay, okay, sorry that.
Speaker 1: Right after that the US said no more, We're never
Speaker 1: paying you another dime. Yeah. And in the First War
Speaker 1: they you pointed out that they used the tactic used
Speaker 1: by the Green Berets, which was to find local insurgent
Speaker 1: groups to help them do the fighting. And I think
Speaker 1: in this case there were some Greeks and Arab and
Speaker 1: Berber mercenaries that we like enlisted to help fight against
Speaker 1: them on land, what little fighting it was on land,
Speaker 1: and it worked, and it was the first time a U.
Speaker 1: S Flag was ever raised on foreign soil, thankfully. Man.
Speaker 1: I am just overwhelmed with jingoism right now? Are you
Speaker 1: a jingoist? I for the moment, Eve, until we Keith
Speaker 1: growing around? Man, that guy, what happened to him? He's around?
Speaker 1: I'm sure, okay, I mean, I don't keep up, but
Speaker 1: nothing's happened to him as far as I know. He's
Speaker 1: still gingering it up. Uh So is that it? I've
Speaker 1: got nothing else, I've got something else. So we were
Speaker 1: talking about how you said Christians and Muslims alike, we're
Speaker 1: not shy about resorting to piracy, enslavement, all that stuff.
Speaker 1: And um, the Mediterranean had seen piracy for millennia, but
Speaker 1: it all really started in the Crusades, and that's when
Speaker 1: one side was just you know, capturing the other people.
Speaker 1: Never that at some point the Crusades. Yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: we could only have to be an overview obviously, because
Speaker 1: we could do like tin shows on the Crusades. Sure. Um,
Speaker 1: but through at this time there's this order called the Mathurians,
Speaker 1: and they are a French Catholic sect and their whole
Speaker 1: gig was raising money to use to ransom sailors who
Speaker 1: couldn't pay their own ransom to keep them from being
Speaker 1: sold into enslavement, which is a pretty noble pursuit. And
Speaker 1: these guys were like they were you know, they took
Speaker 1: vows of poverty, so they like weren't holding any of
Speaker 1: the money themselves. They were getting fatl this they really
Speaker 1: used it, and over three centuries, um, they ransom ninety
Speaker 1: thousand sailors that were captured. Yeah, and um, one of
Speaker 1: those guys turned out to be Miguel de Cervantes who
Speaker 1: wrote Don Quixote. Really he was captured in the Mediterranean,
Speaker 1: And I suppose wrote that after he was freed. I
Speaker 1: don't know, I would say so, well, that's just a guess.
Speaker 1: An that cool though. Thought about one more thing too,
Speaker 1: apparently the slaves. I mean, it was not great to
Speaker 1: be captured as a slave, but it wasn't like European
Speaker 1: and uh American slaves like you could actually gain wealth
Speaker 1: and possession and status as a slave in Africa. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: African slavery is much different than Portuguese style slavery that
Speaker 1: we're used to here in this and and most of
Speaker 1: the time it was not like a great thing, but
Speaker 1: you could. I think one guy even rose to a
Speaker 1: position of advisor to a king of Algae. Wow. Wow. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And by used to I meant uh aware of and
Speaker 1: disgusted by, right, not used to? Yeah, accustomed to? Is
Speaker 1: that is that it? Yes? Okay, well that was America's
Speaker 1: first terrorist threat, pirates. That's the answer. If you want
Speaker 1: to learn more and uh read the article that I wrote,
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Speaker 1: male time? Now? All right, Josh, I'm gonna call this
Speaker 1: a sexual healing is your coin? Did you make that up? Yeah?
Speaker 1: That's awesome, guys. When I first saw the podcast on
Speaker 1: a sexuality. I figured it had to be about a
Speaker 1: sexual reproduction, like single celled organisms or c sponges. It
Speaker 1: was a little trepidacious when I saw I was actually
Speaker 1: about a sexuality as a sexual orientation. Often I am
Speaker 1: not particularly happy with any brief overview of any subject
Speaker 1: they care about or have much knowledge about. I was
Speaker 1: pleased I had no such negative reaction to your podcast, though,
Speaker 1: in fact it was extremely uplifting. You described much of
Speaker 1: the difficulty I had growing up. The talk of being
Speaker 1: confused by your friends suddenly being into girls was particularly evocative.
Speaker 1: In high school and college, I also had a lot
Speaker 1: of really awkward or negative interaction with people, especially girls
Speaker 1: who just didn't get what I was. I even had
Speaker 1: a female friend stop being my friend when I turned
Speaker 1: down her sexual advances. I can only guess as to why,
Speaker 1: but I always felt like she just didn't believe me,
Speaker 1: and that really sucked um. I Also, it also made
Speaker 1: me realize that, at thirty one years old, I'm not
Speaker 1: as okay with my sexuality as I'd like to think
Speaker 1: I am. No matter how much I've told myself and others,
Speaker 1: I'm a sexual and I'm cool it. I've always had
Speaker 1: that itch in the back of my head that has
Speaker 1: told me that I'm crazy or delusional or there's something
Speaker 1: wrong with me. Knowing that this is a real thing,
Speaker 1: with such a relief, I'm now looking into a d
Speaker 1: E N and finding all sorts of exciting stuff. So
Speaker 1: thank you very much recovering the subject. Nice. Yeah, congrats,
Speaker 1: And that is an anonymous listener who got something out
Speaker 1: of the show, which is nice. Got a sexual healing
Speaker 1: out of the show, I hope. So that's really cool.
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