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Speaker 1: Welcome on and all to the Here Territory Podcast. My

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Speaker 1: name is Sean Coleman. Hope, wherever you are and wherever

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Speaker 1: you are listening, you had an amazing weekend. You had

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Speaker 1: an amazing Monday, and you had an amazing time seeing

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Speaker 1: the Braves get a victory against what should be a

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Speaker 1: playoff team, one of the better pictures in the National

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Speaker 1: League on the mound, the Braves countered with Bryce Elder,

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Speaker 1: who's been absolutely magnificent as of late, and the Braves

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Speaker 1: got a victory. And of course, with where we are

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Speaker 1: in the time of the season, none of that matters

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Speaker 1: with the news that was dropped today. Kidding aside, we

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Speaker 1: have an action packed episode of the Hammer Territory Podcast

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Speaker 1: with you and as always, the best pot podcast partner

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Speaker 1: that anyone can think of for myself, Steven Tobert is

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Speaker 1: here as always, Stephen. Good getting to see you, sir.

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Speaker 1: Hope all has been well on your end. You actually

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Speaker 1: got to see your team win a college football game

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Speaker 1: this weekend. Go ahead, Steven, Wow.

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Speaker 2: That's how we're starting. Okay, all right, it's gonna be

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Speaker 2: that kind of show. What's up, buddy? Who needs enemies

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Speaker 2: when you got friends like these? Yeah, we actually got

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Speaker 2: to see a win for the Braves tonight. I'm not

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Speaker 2: talking about my college football team. We got to see

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Speaker 2: a win tonight. Bryce Elder Pischwell, we're gonna get into

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Speaker 2: all that, but unfortunately, the news of the day kind

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Speaker 2: that we had some pretty massive, unexpected, kind of bombshell

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, and we'll get jumped right into it. Of course,

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Speaker 1: can't thank you enough for tuning in, watching, listening however

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Speaker 1: you enjoy the hamm a Territory podcast. We cannot thank

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Speaker 1: you enough for all the support for of the Foul

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Speaker 1: Territory family of podcasts. And what Stephen is alluding to

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Speaker 1: is that earlier this afternoon it was announced by the

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Speaker 1: Braves who had made multiple roster moves, which we'll get

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Speaker 1: Sean Murphy will be out for the rest of the

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Speaker 1: year and likely we'll be rehabbing for much of the

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Speaker 1: off season due to a tear in his hip.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 1: I can't remember if it was the labrum or something

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Speaker 1: actually going to require surgery later this week. That, in

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Speaker 1: of itself is a significant development. That is a significant

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Speaker 1: news nugget in and of itself. But adding to adding

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Speaker 1: to that is how this all came about, Stephen. You

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Speaker 1: he's gonna gone through pain management, He's dealt with others

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Speaker 1: So let's get into it. Stephen, what were your initial

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it was a bombshell. Of course, he's

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Speaker 2: So you know, when the Braves announced it today, they

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Speaker 2: In Shawn's case, I think it's certainly done more hurt

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Speaker 2: just be honest with the team that you're hurt. And

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Speaker 2: I mean, I just don't understand why. I mean, I

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Speaker 1: And let's also look at it from the perspective of

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Speaker 2: Now that's uncertain because you don't know what Murph's gonna

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Speaker 2: If you had any inclination of trading him in the offseason,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a good point. I mean, the catching position

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Speaker 1: The thing I'll end with as far as this scenario goes,

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Speaker 1: So Stephen the other news of the day. We actually

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, he did not say it outright. He

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Speaker 1: Time, right like, it's clearly time. Brian Snicker, he won

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Speaker 1: at the head of the squad.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I was thinking about this. So if you're a

434
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Speaker 2: college basketball fan, you'll know the name Buzz Williams, who

435
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Speaker 2: is the Texas A and M coach, and he just

436
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Speaker 2: left to become the coach at Maryland, I think is

437
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Speaker 2: where he went. And he had a really interesting take

438
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Speaker 2: on it. He said, after about five six years, your

439
00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:57,359
Speaker 2: voice just kind of gets stale and it's time to

440
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Speaker 2: move on. And if you look at his track record

441
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Speaker 2: throughout his career, he's always done that Marquette Texas A

442
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Speaker 2: and M. You know, after about five or six years

443
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Speaker 2: he leaves because he's he just feels like it can

444
00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:12,960
Speaker 2: only end badly if you stay too long. And with Snit,

445
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Speaker 2: I don't It's never been just one thing like It's

446
00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:19,119
Speaker 2: not like one egregious thing that happened. It's not like

447
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Speaker 2: anybody puts the twenty twenty five season at the feet

448
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Speaker 2: of Brian Snicker. No one blames him for what's happened

449
00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:30,360
Speaker 2: this year, but it's just time for something new. It's

450
00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:33,879
Speaker 2: just gotten a bit stale. And I think that I

451
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Speaker 2: find that to be the case with not only the manager,

452
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Speaker 2: but also in some ways the roster. Like I think

453
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Speaker 2: the roster needs a shake up. I think the coaching

454
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Speaker 2: staff needs to shake up. I think the front office

455
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Speaker 2: needs to shake up. Not a major one at the top.

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Speaker 2: I'm not talking about alex Adoplass, but I'm just talking

457
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Speaker 2: about they need some new blood, they need some new life,

458
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Speaker 2: they need some new ideas they need. It has just

459
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Speaker 2: gotten stale. And that's no one's fault. It's you know,

460
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Speaker 2: the old saying is familiar. He breeds content. Like just

461
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Speaker 2: the more you're around the same group of people year

462
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Speaker 2: in year in, year in, year in year out, you know,

463
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Speaker 2: it just gets stale. And and I just think it's time.

464
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Speaker 2: And Snicker's also been in you know, he's been around

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Speaker 2: the organization for fifty years. I mean, I'm sure the

466
00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:18,639
Speaker 2: guy would like to go spend some time with grandkids

467
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Speaker 2: and you know, not have to worry about the nonsense

468
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Speaker 2: that we talk about on a daily basis, and not

469
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Speaker 2: have to worry about knuckleheads like us talking about the

470
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Speaker 2: stuff that you know, he has to worry about on

471
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Speaker 2: a daily basis. I'm sure he's got much better shit

472
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Speaker 2: to do. So I I do fully expect this to

473
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Speaker 2: be the last month of Brian Snicker's, you know, coaching

474
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Speaker 2: career with the Braves or any any team. I think

475
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Speaker 2: he'll stay in the organization. He'll get some sort of

476
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Speaker 2: you know a Maritas you know, lifelong position in the

477
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Speaker 2: front office where he can come to spring training anytime

478
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Speaker 2: he wants, very much like Bobby, you know, he can do.

479
00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:54,480
Speaker 2: You know, he's got a lifetime pass to be around

480
00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:56,400
Speaker 2: the team as much as he wants. I just don't

481
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Speaker 2: think he's going to be the manager. And that is

482
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Speaker 2: going to kick off a another fascinating part of this

483
00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:03,560
Speaker 2: offseason is who is going to be the next manager

484
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Speaker 2: of the Braves and then what does their coaching staff

485
00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:09,840
Speaker 2: behind them look like? Because those are massive questions as well,

486
00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:15,720
Speaker 2: just another massive, massive piece of what is going to

487
00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:22,240
Speaker 2: be a massive, massive offseason for the Braves and Muted buddy.

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Speaker 1: Everybody has in their mind that you know, when it

489
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Speaker 1: comes to you know, that window of opportunity, that window

490
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Speaker 1: of competing, and the Braves have had an extended one,

491
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Speaker 1: the Braves run of being a true contender. It's not

492
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Speaker 1: over with in my mind by any means, but it's

493
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Speaker 1: been going on for nearly a decade. You know, we're

494
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Speaker 1: coming up on you know, I know they're not going

495
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Speaker 1: to make the playoffs this year, but it lasted for

496
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Speaker 1: seven years. That's an extended period of time for an

497
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Speaker 1: organization and while everybody kind of envisions going up a

498
00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:51,520
Speaker 1: little bit, going up a little bit, going up a

499
00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:52,879
Speaker 1: little bit each year, to you have that two or

500
00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:55,600
Speaker 1: three year window too, you really are a World Series favorite.

501
00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:59,000
Speaker 1: The Braves kind of peaked early in twenty twenty one,

502
00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:03,240
Speaker 1: and ever since it's just kind of gone, yeah, restly downhill,

503
00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:06,960
Speaker 1: trouble in the playoffs, trouble being able to stay healthy,

504
00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:10,360
Speaker 1: offense falling off a cliff last year and then this year,

505
00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:13,680
Speaker 1: everything just kind of all falling to bottom at times.

506
00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:17,119
Speaker 1: When you have that occur over as long as stretch

507
00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:18,879
Speaker 1: as we've had it, which basically is four years now

508
00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:21,200
Speaker 1: since we won the World Series, it's time that the

509
00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:26,640
Speaker 1: staying with the current regime it's run stale. Just having

510
00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:29,560
Speaker 1: something new in and of itself can have value. So

511
00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:31,240
Speaker 1: it's going to be very interesting to see what the

512
00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:35,159
Speaker 1: Braves do on that end. One other small but significant

513
00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:38,560
Speaker 1: discussion that Alex and Tooplass talked about was he talked

514
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Speaker 1: about Ryce cel Iglesias and how good ry sel Iglesias

515
00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:43,680
Speaker 1: has been in the second half of the year, very

516
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Speaker 1: much compared you know, Iglesias has been to the level

517
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Speaker 1: that he was all of last year in terms of

518
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Speaker 1: how successful he's been on the mound, and Alex and

519
00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:54,680
Speaker 1: Thopless was asked about the fact that you have any

520
00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:58,239
Speaker 1: regrets about not trading Iglesias at the trade deadline, and

521
00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:00,840
Speaker 1: Alex basically repeated what he said at the trade deadline.

522
00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:04,520
Speaker 1: We were not going to trade players just for salary relief.

523
00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:07,080
Speaker 1: We were only going to trade players if we were

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Speaker 1: able to get prospects to help us in the future. Now,

525
00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:11,720
Speaker 1: I mentioned to Brad Steven when we were talking about

526
00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:15,920
Speaker 1: the Hassan Kim. Addition, we've now also had a Jake Frayley, Kim,

527
00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:20,479
Speaker 1: Alexis Diaz, players who formerly were successful major league players

528
00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:22,520
Speaker 1: who could potentially be a part of next year's team.

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Speaker 1: How the Braves have been active on the waiver wire

530
00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:28,600
Speaker 1: has made me be less concern about their inactiveness at

531
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Speaker 1: the trade deadline. But I do think that it's very

532
00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:33,600
Speaker 1: interesting when it comes to Alex and Thoppless. He's not

533
00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:36,879
Speaker 1: going to make a move for salary relief. That I

534
00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:38,639
Speaker 1: don't want to read too much into, but at the

535
00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:41,840
Speaker 1: very least, it lets me know that money may not

536
00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:44,040
Speaker 1: necessarily be as big of a concern as many of

537
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Speaker 1: us think that it is. Number One and number two,

538
00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:51,440
Speaker 1: he values continuity in terms of players that he knows

539
00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:54,000
Speaker 1: he could be successful here. We would rather than be

540
00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:56,960
Speaker 1: here than them not. And I think that adds value

541
00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:59,359
Speaker 1: in a positive way for this team that certainly seems

542
00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:01,119
Speaker 1: to value continuity highly.

543
00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:08,199
Speaker 2: I imagine there the people that are kicking themselves about

544
00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:12,480
Speaker 2: not adding iglesias are the other teams more than and

545
00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:15,080
Speaker 2: Doppless is kicking himself about not dealing them. I mean,

546
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Speaker 2: the offers you get are the offers you get. Like

547
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Speaker 2: you you know, you have no control over what offers

548
00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:25,600
Speaker 2: you get. Now, I will say I think the Braves.

549
00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:28,280
Speaker 2: I think one reason the Braves didn't get the offers

550
00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:30,080
Speaker 2: that they wanted to get was because the Braves were

551
00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:33,760
Speaker 2: not willing to pay down the contracts. I have not

552
00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:35,679
Speaker 2: been able to confirm that at any point, but I

553
00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:38,320
Speaker 2: do believe that's the case where they just weren't willing,

554
00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:41,320
Speaker 2: and I think that impacted the offers they got. And

555
00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:44,080
Speaker 2: I think that's why anytime Alice is talking about it,

556
00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:46,480
Speaker 2: has talked about those potential deals, he's always said the

557
00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:49,440
Speaker 2: same thing, which is the only thing teams were offering

558
00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:53,640
Speaker 2: were salary relief, which means he was asking them to

559
00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:57,240
Speaker 2: take on the full salary, and I think that did

560
00:28:57,280 --> 00:28:59,520
Speaker 2: impact both of those guys market. But listen, if I'm

561
00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:05,280
Speaker 2: a player team, I'm pretty pissed at myself if especially

562
00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:09,240
Speaker 2: if I've had bullpinch, you know, disruption since the trade deadline.

563
00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:12,520
Speaker 2: I knew it. I mean, Glaciers has just got such

564
00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:16,080
Speaker 2: a long track record of success and at the highest

565
00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:18,840
Speaker 2: levels of this game, in in the ninth inning and

566
00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:21,400
Speaker 2: high leverage like and there's just not a lot of

567
00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:23,760
Speaker 2: those guys out there available at any trade deadline. And

568
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Speaker 2: the fact that no one was interested for seven million

569
00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:30,160
Speaker 2: bucks or whatever he was. I think it was like

570
00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:32,080
Speaker 2: six million bucks actually for whatever he had left on

571
00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:33,880
Speaker 2: his deal for the last two months of the season.

572
00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:37,600
Speaker 2: It's still very surprising to me. And I mean, there's

573
00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:40,280
Speaker 2: nothing you can do about it now, you know, I

574
00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:42,280
Speaker 2: hate that the Braves are spending this six million dollars

575
00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:44,880
Speaker 2: just letting Iglacias pitch on a bad team. I would

576
00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:47,160
Speaker 2: have much other than spent it by sending it to

577
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Speaker 2: another team so that they would have sent us some prospects,

578
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Speaker 2: but that's not the way they chose to go. So,

579
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Speaker 2: you know, it is what it is. There's nothing the

580
00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:56,720
Speaker 2: Braves can do about it, but I guarantee you there

581
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Speaker 2: are teams around the league that are are looking back

582
00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:01,200
Speaker 2: on the trade down wishing they would have been a

583
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Speaker 2: little more aggressive on Aglecias, especially given the state of

584
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Speaker 2: some of the bullpens around baseball at the moment.

585
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Speaker 1: And to be honest with you, I would love to

586
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Speaker 1: have Iglecias back, but that's kind of another byproduct for.

587
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Speaker 2: All of this.

588
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Speaker 1: With how good he's had at the end of the season,

589
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Speaker 1: I imagine that, you know, he certainly could be looking,

590
00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:21,800
Speaker 1: you know, to have a closer spot somewhere, and if

591
00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:24,320
Speaker 1: that's for us, that's great, but it's not off the

592
00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:26,600
Speaker 1: table to where he certainly can give him the multi

593
00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:30,480
Speaker 1: year deal where he's making double digit salary each year.

594
00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:33,800
Speaker 1: Excuse me, you know, more than ten million average annual value.

595
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Speaker 1: I don't necessarily know where that works into the brace

596
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Speaker 1: fan it plans it would be cheaper, But let me

597
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Speaker 1: put it this way, rycell Iglesias, I would be more

598
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Speaker 1: than happy to have him back, even in the closed role,

599
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Speaker 1: with how well he's into the season. But that's kind

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Speaker 1: of lower on the totem poll after all the other

601
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602
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636
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:25,320
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00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:29,080
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641
00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:39,880
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Speaker 2: Of the Year.

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Speaker 1: And I bring that up because Drake Baldwin right now

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648
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Speaker 1: a slight favorite ahead of Drake Baldwin. And the thing

649
00:32:57,360 --> 00:32:59,840
Speaker 1: is is that tomorrow they'll be facing each other for

650
00:32:59,880 --> 00:33:02,520
Speaker 1: the second time in a week. Cad Horton will be

651
00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:04,400
Speaker 1: on the mound. He pitched last week against the Braves

652
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:07,680
Speaker 1: through five excellent innings against Atlanta. He'll be on the

653
00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:10,920
Speaker 1: mound tomorrow for the Cubs. Drake Baldwin, of course, now

654
00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:14,200
Speaker 1: likely will be playing mostly every day when it comes

655
00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:16,440
Speaker 1: to what he did another you know, great night tonight,

656
00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:18,800
Speaker 1: or at least in his first at bat, a really

657
00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:22,200
Speaker 1: awesome opportunity for Braves fans to witness tomorrow. And you're

658
00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:24,960
Speaker 1: hoping that if Drake Baldwin can put another hot streak together,

659
00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:27,640
Speaker 1: he'll be able to win the Rookie of the Year

660
00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:30,000
Speaker 1: award and get that extra draft pick for the Braves.

661
00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:34,920
Speaker 2: Yep, Cad Horton versus Drake Baldwin Part two. Obviously, the

662
00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:37,360
Speaker 2: Braid has just played the Cubs last week, so and

663
00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:40,080
Speaker 2: Kate Horton came out and threw he actually threw a

664
00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:42,080
Speaker 2: no hitter for the first five innings, got pulled at

665
00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:45,400
Speaker 2: seventy five pitches. That is notable that you know, you

666
00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:48,160
Speaker 2: probably should keep that in mind that he is on

667
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:52,200
Speaker 2: a pretty strict pitch count. The Cubs are not playing

668
00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:54,560
Speaker 2: around with his pitch count at all. So and I

669
00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:56,360
Speaker 2: don't know if it'll be seventy five pitches like it

670
00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:58,680
Speaker 2: was last week, or if it'd be more or less.

671
00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:01,560
Speaker 2: But you know, if you if you're the Braves, you

672
00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:03,560
Speaker 2: have to know, like, if you work this guy's count

673
00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:05,200
Speaker 2: a little bit in the first three or four innings,

674
00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:07,360
Speaker 2: you have a very good chance of getting him out

675
00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:09,920
Speaker 2: of the game. And they're not gonna let him throw

676
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:12,759
Speaker 2: ninety one hundred, one hundred and ten pitches. They've shown that,

677
00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:16,360
Speaker 2: so you know, the Braves have been much better taking walks.

678
00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:20,000
Speaker 2: Let's have a patient approach tomorrow, maybe try to get

679
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:22,640
Speaker 2: this kid out. He's very talented, Like you said, he

680
00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:25,279
Speaker 2: is the front runner for Rookie of the Year right now.

681
00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:29,360
Speaker 2: He's just pitched insanely well. And the Cubs are a

682
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:31,040
Speaker 2: better team than the Braves, and so the Cubs are

683
00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:33,840
Speaker 2: playing in more high impact games than the Braves, and

684
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:37,240
Speaker 2: you know, Drake's just got to be that much better.

685
00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:39,919
Speaker 2: When you're on a bad team, you know, is that fair?

686
00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:42,560
Speaker 2: Probably not, but that's just the way it is. He's

687
00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:44,920
Speaker 2: got to be that much better. And you know, I

688
00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:49,120
Speaker 2: do think if the voting were today, you know, just

689
00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:52,320
Speaker 2: because of the Vegas odds doesn't mean it's written in stone,

690
00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:54,640
Speaker 2: like if the voting were today, Drake Baldock would still

691
00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:58,360
Speaker 2: very much win. I think Kate Horton would win. But

692
00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:01,319
Speaker 2: I could I could be wrong. He could be the

693
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:03,239
Speaker 2: leader in the clubhouse for all we know. You know,

694
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:06,840
Speaker 2: we're not going to know until the voting, but days

695
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:08,960
Speaker 2: like tomorrow that you know, his teammates could really help

696
00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:11,440
Speaker 2: him out by putting an eight spot on Kate Horton

697
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:14,239
Speaker 2: in the first three innings and Drake going you know,

698
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:17,279
Speaker 2: three for three with a couple of doubles. You know,

699
00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:20,080
Speaker 2: anything like that will help his cause because it is

700
00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:22,440
Speaker 2: a neck and neck. I mean, even if you think

701
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:25,560
Speaker 2: Drake Baldwin is ahead right now, it is not by much.

702
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:30,719
Speaker 2: It is a tight race. And you know, we've already

703
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:32,760
Speaker 2: laid out multiple times on the show why it matters

704
00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:35,920
Speaker 2: for the Braves that Drake Baldwin wins this award. So

705
00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:39,600
Speaker 2: tomorrow's a big kind of chapter of that story. Is

706
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:41,719
Speaker 2: is Horton Versus Baldwin Part two.

707
00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:44,160
Speaker 1: And the other thing I want to add to this

708
00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:47,120
Speaker 1: discussion is that, yes, the draft pick coming with Drake Baldwin,

709
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:49,240
Speaker 1: we make it seem as if that's even more important

710
00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:51,600
Speaker 1: than Drake Baldwin himself winning Rookie of the Year, and

711
00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:54,200
Speaker 1: yet it's a what it means a lot to the organization.

712
00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:57,920
Speaker 1: It would be a nice little consolation prize from what

713
00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:01,560
Speaker 1: we've experienced this year. But to add to the reason

714
00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:04,800
Speaker 1: why I think Drake Baldwin deserves it over Kate Horton,

715
00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:08,840
Speaker 1: Drake Baldwin has been doing this all year as a catcher,

716
00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:13,560
Speaker 1: playing not every day, but he's played in big moments

717
00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:15,840
Speaker 1: and is delivered in big moments. And to me, the

718
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:18,279
Speaker 1: other thing that stands out about Drake Baldwin, He's in

719
00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:20,759
Speaker 1: his rookie year. He's been consistent for the most part

720
00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:24,560
Speaker 1: all season long. And his numbers, his underlying numbers, those

721
00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:28,600
Speaker 1: metrics that we always talk about, they support what he's done.

722
00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:31,719
Speaker 1: They show that what he's done is legitimate. He may

723
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:34,680
Speaker 1: even be underperforming a bit what he actually should be doing.

724
00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:38,160
Speaker 1: So for those reasons, I feel Drake Baldwin is definitely

725
00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:40,799
Speaker 1: in position to win and deserves to win the Rookie

726
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:43,080
Speaker 1: of the Year contest. It likely is going to take

727
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:46,520
Speaker 1: another hot streak and hopefully that occurs starting Tomorrow night

728
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:51,360
Speaker 1: against Horton directly. Also want to talk about tonight's game, Stephen,

729
00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:54,719
Speaker 1: because it was a good victory. The Braves got a

730
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:57,480
Speaker 1: needed victory. Much like Friday night. They faced a quality

731
00:36:57,480 --> 00:37:00,200
Speaker 1: picture on the mound, a team that's in position to

732
00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:03,120
Speaker 1: make the playoffs, and they look like they belonged. Ozzie

733
00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:06,319
Speaker 1: Albi's went deep with another left handed hitter again. I

734
00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:09,600
Speaker 1: know many are pointing out that how he's hitting against

735
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:13,680
Speaker 1: right hand how he's hitting right handed against left handed pitching,

736
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:17,000
Speaker 1: That may be the most positive indicator of all We're

737
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:19,600
Speaker 1: getting back to Ozzie being Ozzie. But I also want

738
00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:22,319
Speaker 1: to put the spotlight on Bryce Selder, who gets some

739
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:27,760
Speaker 1: pretty legitimate competition, has been absolutely outstanding his past four starts.

740
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:29,920
Speaker 1: I don't think that means he gets a rotation spot

741
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:32,520
Speaker 1: next year. I don't think it means anything significant. But

742
00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:34,959
Speaker 1: when we talk about as many Braves as possible ending

743
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:37,520
Speaker 1: the year in as good a way as possible, Bryce

744
00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:39,960
Speaker 1: Elder is certainly taking advantage of that. He was in

745
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:42,400
Speaker 1: command tonight, and he got the job done against a

746
00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:43,560
Speaker 1: pretty legitimate opponent.

747
00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:47,520
Speaker 2: I'm not sure there is any pitcher in baseball with

748
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:53,760
Speaker 2: a higher range of outcomes than Bryce Elder. I quite literally,

749
00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:55,920
Speaker 2: anything could happen in a Bryce Elder start, and I

750
00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:57,799
Speaker 2: would kind of believe it. I'd be like, yeah, that's

751
00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:01,240
Speaker 2: you know. He could give up nine runs before recording

752
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:04,840
Speaker 2: it out, he could throw one hitter and anything in between,

753
00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:06,960
Speaker 2: and I'd be like, yeah, I mean that makes sense.

754
00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:10,720
Speaker 2: The dude is there's not a soul on the planet

755
00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:14,440
Speaker 2: that can figure out what Bryce Selder is or what

756
00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:17,520
Speaker 2: he's gonna do next, because we've seen him go on heaters,

757
00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:21,319
Speaker 2: we've seen him go on i mean just fall off

758
00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:25,600
Speaker 2: a mountain, and tonight he was really good. He's been

759
00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:27,440
Speaker 2: really good, like four starts in a row, three or

760
00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:30,120
Speaker 2: four starts in a row. It gets really good teams.

761
00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:32,960
Speaker 2: So I don't know what to make of it. I

762
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:34,319
Speaker 2: don't think the Braves know what to make of it.

763
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:36,640
Speaker 2: I don't think Bryce Seldon knows what to make I'm

764
00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:38,680
Speaker 2: guessing he's as confused as the rest of us as

765
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:41,560
Speaker 2: to what happens on a night to night start for him.

766
00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:44,440
Speaker 2: But he pitched well tonight, and the offense did enough.

767
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:47,640
Speaker 2: You know, you still got a Cunya batting six, which

768
00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:49,839
Speaker 2: we're not going to get. The whole thing tonight still

769
00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:51,920
Speaker 2: annoys me, but it is what it is at this point.

770
00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:55,640
Speaker 2: You know, Brian Snicker clearly thinks it's a way to

771
00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:58,960
Speaker 2: get him out of his funk. Whatever the offense did enough.

772
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:02,120
Speaker 2: Matt Olsen had a another homer. Medalson is heating back up.

773
00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:06,040
Speaker 2: He had a really slow August. He's heating back up.

774
00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:08,719
Speaker 2: Ronnie did break his over streak, he did have an

775
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:12,520
Speaker 2: RBS single tonight. Drake Baldwin had a double. Ozzie Albi

776
00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:15,560
Speaker 2: said another homer, So you know, it was a good start.

777
00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:18,280
Speaker 2: We're gonna talk about Spitzer Strider here in a second

778
00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:22,640
Speaker 2: in the show, But yeah, the offense did enough. We

779
00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:24,560
Speaker 2: need the office to be more consistent. It would be

780
00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:27,160
Speaker 2: lovely to see Ronnie come all the way back before

781
00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:29,480
Speaker 2: the season ends. But Bryce elder Man, I don't know,

782
00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:32,560
Speaker 2: I have no answers I have I don't even know.

783
00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:34,040
Speaker 2: I don't even I don't even know how to begin

784
00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:38,480
Speaker 2: to give an answer about Bryce selder Just every single start,

785
00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:41,279
Speaker 2: anything can happen, and in a lot of ways. That

786
00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:44,040
Speaker 2: makes him the most interesting man on the team. Literally,

787
00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:48,439
Speaker 2: any outcome on any given night is attainable for him,

788
00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:51,560
Speaker 2: and it's it's wild. It's wild to watch, quite honestly.

789
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:54,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a year of riddles, right, Like we talked about,

790
00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:57,040
Speaker 1: this has been one big question mark all year and

791
00:39:57,080 --> 00:39:59,560
Speaker 1: the Braves had just come out the last three weeks

792
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:02,640
Speaker 1: of the season and just wear a question mark on

793
00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:05,120
Speaker 1: their hats. That's what they should do, because that's been

794
00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:09,160
Speaker 1: one big question mark. But after all of today's action, Steaven,

795
00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:12,640
Speaker 1: after all of today's news, all today's action, and then

796
00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:16,440
Speaker 1: again it's it's been a mixed bag of positive and negative,

797
00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:19,000
Speaker 1: but at least it ended well on the field. The

798
00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:22,680
Speaker 1: biggest question of all, and I think this may be

799
00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:29,839
Speaker 1: of the season. The hell happened to Spencer Strider's mustache? Seriously,

800
00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:34,640
Speaker 1: it's just it's different. Listen, I'm here for change, I'm

801
00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:38,000
Speaker 1: here for trying something new. But but the man looked

802
00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:42,000
Speaker 1: like he could whoop bass against anybody with that mustache,

803
00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:44,680
Speaker 1: and I'm sure that he still can, but it's just

804
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:48,879
Speaker 1: it's a different look. He looks ten years younger that

805
00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:51,160
Speaker 1: that stash was like one of the it was like

806
00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:54,239
Speaker 1: one of the biggest, like the most identifying features in

807
00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:59,280
Speaker 1: Baseball Strider's stash. When you saw that, it struck fear

808
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:06,600
Speaker 1: in hitters everywhere. Just I miss the stash.

809
00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:12,520
Speaker 2: I'll tell you this. That mustache. I don't know what

810
00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:14,440
Speaker 2: it is about it. Maybe it's because he's got a

811
00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:17,400
Speaker 2: really really dark hair, maybe it's because it's like jet black.

812
00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:24,000
Speaker 2: But it like changes his whole face. Like if Spencer

813
00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:27,719
Speaker 2: Strider committed a crime with the mustache and then shaved

814
00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:29,919
Speaker 2: and was like on the run the rest of his life,

815
00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:32,120
Speaker 2: he would never be caught because that looks like two

816
00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:35,120
Speaker 2: different human beings. Like I thought that was like Pete

817
00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:38,240
Speaker 2: Alonzo's son, Like they he looks exactly like Pete Alans.

818
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:41,359
Speaker 2: It's the weirdest thing I've ever seen. Yeah, you know

819
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:45,360
Speaker 2: they shout him in the dugout. It's like he's playing

820
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:48,560
Speaker 2: out like the whole Major League Ricky Vaughan storyline, except

821
00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:51,080
Speaker 2: it's with the instead of a mustache, that's with the

822
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:53,719
Speaker 2: black glasses that Ricky Vaughan had. You know, he took

823
00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:55,440
Speaker 2: him off for the second one and he lost all

824
00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:57,200
Speaker 2: his powers, and he put him back on at the end.

825
00:41:57,320 --> 00:41:59,600
Speaker 2: Maybe we'll see the mustache return next year. I don't

826
00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:02,359
Speaker 2: know it was. I mean it was. It was weird

827
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:04,960
Speaker 2: as hell. I mean, he really he looked twelve. He

828
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:07,160
Speaker 2: looked like a ball boy, said, I made the joke.

829
00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:09,080
Speaker 2: He looked like Bennie the Jet Rodriguez was about to

830
00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:11,680
Speaker 2: teach him how to throw a baseball. That's I mean,

831
00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:15,680
Speaker 2: he it's crazy how much that mustache like changes his face.

832
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:19,440
Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean he's kind of having one of

833
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:22,040
Speaker 2: those years where, like, you know, it's like a high

834
00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:24,680
Speaker 2: school girl who breaks up with her boyfriend and cuts

835
00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:26,600
Speaker 2: all her hair off. Like he's having like that kind

836
00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:29,759
Speaker 2: of you know, existential crisis kind of year where he's like,

837
00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:32,399
Speaker 2: you know what, screw it, nothing else is going right

838
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:36,080
Speaker 2: this year. We're going with a new look. And there were,

839
00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:39,160
Speaker 2: honest to god, people were as mad about that as

840
00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:43,280
Speaker 2: anything that's happened all year long. People love that mustache.

841
00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:46,400
Speaker 2: That mustache had its own Twitter I had multiple Twitter accounts.

842
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:49,720
Speaker 2: It's gotta I mean, it's its own celebrity at this point.

843
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:55,040
Speaker 2: So it was a shocking, shocking turn of events.

844
00:42:56,040 --> 00:43:00,400
Speaker 1: I'm still in shock. Yeah, kill me, Strider, You're kill me.

845
00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:03,600
Speaker 1: Just don't make it. Foreverse even did there I did.

846
00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:06,080
Speaker 2: I picked up all that I had to give a.

847
00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:10,560
Speaker 1: Little sandlot, you know, shout outs. Now, listen, I'm I

848
00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:12,600
Speaker 1: don't ever think this will get back to Spencer Strider,

849
00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:17,480
Speaker 1: but if anybody ever expresses to Spencer Strider our reactions

850
00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:19,759
Speaker 1: to him being without his mustache, I want to make

851
00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:24,160
Speaker 1: it clear, if he ever asked directly, it looks absolutely fantastic,

852
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:28,520
Speaker 1: best decision he's ever made. I keep it that way

853
00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:31,880
Speaker 1: if he prefers. All joking aside, we want to end

854
00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:34,280
Speaker 1: the show on a bit of a hilarious note, because listen,

855
00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:36,680
Speaker 1: we deserve a bit of hilarious in our lives right

856
00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:39,440
Speaker 1: now as Braves fans. But it was a change, and

857
00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:43,040
Speaker 1: it's one of those changes that you're just not prepared for. Man,

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Speaker 1: at the very least, let's put it this way, the

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Speaker 1: end of the season for the Braves, I think has

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Speaker 1: been a bit more eventful than any of us had anticipated.

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Speaker 1: Maybe not necessarily all in a positive way, but at

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Speaker 1: the very least has been eventful. Stephen, do you have

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Speaker 1: anything else for us as we wrap up this edition?

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Speaker 1: The Hammer Territory podcast.

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Speaker 2: No, and I guess we should mention that obviously. We

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Speaker 2: talked about Kate Horton pitching for the Cub tomorrow. Tomorrow,

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Speaker 2: Spencer Strider pitches for the Braves, and then Chris Sale

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Speaker 2: is on Wednesday, day off Thursday, and then the Astroals

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Speaker 2: come to town. So you're gonna you're gonna get another

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Speaker 2: Spencer Strider started to mark. Striders start tomorrow. Just another

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Speaker 2: data point to watch. I'm curious to see, you know.

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Speaker 2: The outing he had against I think Miami was decent.

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Speaker 2: The next one not quite as good. They pushed him

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Speaker 2: back a couple of days. There was some speculation on

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Speaker 2: whether he was hurt. I don't think he's hurt. So

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Speaker 2: it's just gonna be just see what he looks like tomorrow,

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Speaker 2: and that's gonna be the big thing. And then we moved,

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Speaker 2: you know to Chris Sale, and then the Astroals come

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Speaker 2: to town for the weekend.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, and it looks like that what we

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Speaker 1: could be seeing, what we could be lining up to

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Speaker 1: see is over the next three games. You know, we

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Speaker 1: talked about it last week. The Braves are gonna get

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Speaker 1: the opportunity to really see where they stand. It didn't

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Speaker 1: work out well against Seattle, But see where some of

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Speaker 1: these individual players stand. You know, again, more about the

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Speaker 1: process over the results. Right now, See where there's some

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Speaker 1: they saw him last start. What can he do adjustment

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Speaker 1: wise to maintain success at least in terms of run prevention.

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Speaker 1: You've got Chris Sale on the mount tomorrow against the

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Speaker 1: Cubs and then Hirston Waldrip on the mound against the

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Speaker 1: Astros on Friday. So plenty to watch board this week,

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Speaker 1: of course, going along with Drake Baldwin hopefully having a

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Speaker 1: great week. Listen, Ken, thank you enough for joining us

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Speaker 1: here on the Hammer Territory podcast. We're always here to

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Speaker 1: cover with the Braves, always here to deliver content, hopefully

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Speaker 1: in a fun and informative way, sometimes in a not

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Speaker 1: so fun way if a rant or two is involved,

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Speaker 1: though a lot of time it's certainly warranted. For Steven Tolverd,

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Speaker 1: you could find him at b Underscore Outliers on Twitter

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Speaker 1: slash x. My name is Sean Coleman. You could find

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Speaker 1: me at Stat's Sac Hammer Territory Tory across all forms

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Speaker 1: of social media, part of the Foul Territory family of

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Speaker 1: podcast Shout out to Brad Rowlands, shout out to Scott Coleman,

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Speaker 1: shout out to Grant McCauley who was an awesome guest

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Speaker 1: on Sunday, and shout out to the Braves. A hell

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Speaker 1: of a day off the field and on the field.

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Speaker 1: Hopefully Sean Murphy comes back better than ever.

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Speaker 4: Rain.

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Speaker 1: Until next time, go Braves. We'll talk to you again

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Speaker 1: soon here on the Hammer Territory Pot