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Speaker 2: Right back, All right, welcome back to Point Game with

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Speaker 2: We're excited to bring on our next guest here. Three

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Speaker 2: Danny Green, Danny, how you feeling, man.

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Speaker 3: I'm good. I'm good man. I appreciate you having me on.

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Speaker 3: Thank you as a whole of introduction.

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Speaker 2: I got to get up. So I'm a Lakers fan,

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Speaker 2: so I'm going to talk about that a little bit.

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Speaker 2: So appreciate you for that title. But Danny, we've seen

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Speaker 3: Season exactly that. I actually just love Yahoo Studios.

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Speaker 4: had to go to the library. J Up, you know,

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00:17:39,400 --> 00:17:41,320
Speaker 4: was saying back in the day there was no Google

432
00:17:41,320 --> 00:17:43,640
Speaker 4: on the phones. You got to you got Google, can learn,

433
00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:45,280
Speaker 4: they got TikTok, and they learned so much on social

434
00:17:45,359 --> 00:17:48,119
Speaker 4: media that they're way smarter than us earlier. So the

435
00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:51,000
Speaker 4: maturing faster, which helps them to become adults, you know,

436
00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:53,800
Speaker 4: make decisions for themselves. Back when we were younger, it

437
00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:56,000
Speaker 4: was really hard. We just had to trust and our coaches.

438
00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:58,679
Speaker 4: We should trust in our AAU coaches program and our

439
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Speaker 4: parents like this might be that's it was like we.

440
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Speaker 3: All right, I guess I'm going to fucking you know

441
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Speaker 3: what I'm saying. This work.

442
00:18:05,040 --> 00:18:07,199
Speaker 4: But now kids are able to grow up and now

443
00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:09,120
Speaker 4: they get more freedom to do it, and they're encouraging

444
00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:11,680
Speaker 4: more to make decisions earlier to where they can grow

445
00:18:11,760 --> 00:18:14,679
Speaker 4: up fast and become mature adults by the time make

446
00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:15,760
Speaker 4: a decision to go to college.

447
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Speaker 1: Yeah, so you was able to learn under one of

448
00:18:17,680 --> 00:18:21,159
Speaker 1: the most respected coaches of all time, coach pop Uh.

449
00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:24,240
Speaker 1: I just always want to know, like how was it

450
00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:27,000
Speaker 1: being coached by him and how he makes each and

451
00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:29,399
Speaker 1: every player come out and be a better version of

452
00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:31,920
Speaker 1: theyself in their leadership. Because I always respected Pop, like

453
00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:34,080
Speaker 1: you know, I mean going to the USA Select team,

454
00:18:34,119 --> 00:18:36,359
Speaker 1: being around him, just hearing them talk about the game

455
00:18:36,400 --> 00:18:38,639
Speaker 1: and the respect fact he has. I always wish I

456
00:18:38,760 --> 00:18:40,280
Speaker 1: had the opportunity to be coached by himself.

457
00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:42,879
Speaker 4: Yeah, I want to I want to ask you how

458
00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:45,000
Speaker 4: your experienced with him was during the USA team, because

459
00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:46,760
Speaker 4: it's a different guy in season.

460
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Speaker 3: Not everybody can play.

461
00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:50,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think USA. I think like he was joking

462
00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:52,520
Speaker 1: and laughing a lot more. And it's like he wasn't

463
00:18:52,800 --> 00:18:54,400
Speaker 1: the head coach at the time, but like he's being

464
00:18:54,440 --> 00:18:56,600
Speaker 1: around his president just trying to pick his knowledge as

465
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Speaker 1: much as possible. But I know it's totally different being

466
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Speaker 1: in a full season under him. Then you know me,

467
00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:04,040
Speaker 1: He's like, it's like when I first got to coach cal,

468
00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:05,359
Speaker 1: like you let me just talking to me before I

469
00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:08,000
Speaker 1: played for him, I'm like, oh, he's cool. But then

470
00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:10,439
Speaker 1: when he starting to get between those four lines and

471
00:19:10,520 --> 00:19:12,960
Speaker 1: you got twenty suicides in twenty minutes at six am,

472
00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:15,159
Speaker 1: I'm like, god, I think I picked the wrong school.

473
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Speaker 1: So I would let to know your experience what POP was.

474
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Speaker 4: So I was lucky enough to have a crazy high

475
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Speaker 4: school coach. Shout out to coach Tim Kluse. He coached

476
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Speaker 4: me in Saint Mary's and he coached Iona. We had

477
00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:30,360
Speaker 4: success and then ended up having issues and also transferring

478
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Speaker 4: and going to different schools and went to Long Island,

479
00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:35,159
Speaker 4: you know, c W Post and Long Island. But he

480
00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:37,840
Speaker 4: was crazy, so he prepared me for coach Williams and

481
00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:40,480
Speaker 4: then who prepared me for Pop to handle him? But

482
00:19:40,520 --> 00:19:42,520
Speaker 4: I said, not everybody can play for Pop. And off

483
00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:46,560
Speaker 4: the court, he's great, you know, Grandpa jokes comedian. You know,

484
00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:48,199
Speaker 4: I can't stop black, And I got older, I got

485
00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:51,960
Speaker 4: more comfortable with asthma. But you just his presence is

486
00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:54,000
Speaker 4: like feared, like you just scared, nervous. You want to

487
00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:55,800
Speaker 4: be like the principal. You know what I'm saying, it'll

488
00:19:55,800 --> 00:19:58,960
Speaker 4: be on your p's and q's. And when he said something,

489
00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:02,720
Speaker 4: you listen and you you're trying to because your first

490
00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:06,600
Speaker 4: instance of like when you get with him, he's gonna

491
00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:09,359
Speaker 4: let you know that you're not safe by cussing out Timmy,

492
00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:11,760
Speaker 4: Tony and Minum. So like when you get there, it's like,

493
00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:14,800
Speaker 4: all right, new guys here, even no matter who we're playing,

494
00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:17,560
Speaker 4: he's gonna call time out and rip somebody. And it's

495
00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:19,320
Speaker 4: gonna be somebody you don't expect them to rip. And

496
00:20:19,359 --> 00:20:21,879
Speaker 4: you're like, damn, that just puts you on. You're already

497
00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:23,560
Speaker 4: you're already scared of him, but now you're like, damn,

498
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Speaker 4: you cuss out Timmy like that, I know I'm not

499
00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:28,639
Speaker 4: safe to I better make sure I do my job.

500
00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:32,080
Speaker 4: But yeah, he on the court, most intense guy. He

501
00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:35,199
Speaker 4: loves a getting very passionate study, but most intense in

502
00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:36,840
Speaker 4: your face. Depending on who you are. He knows who

503
00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:38,920
Speaker 4: can handle what. But he's gonna push you. They put

504
00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:41,080
Speaker 4: you on, say, at a box, but they put you

505
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Speaker 4: in a position to where your strengths are until you

506
00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:45,199
Speaker 4: can be successful in that and figure out how to

507
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Speaker 4: wait to push the right buttons to get you to

508
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Speaker 4: play at your Like. So if it's like, oh, we

509
00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:51,840
Speaker 4: know John plays better when he's angry, you know what

510
00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:55,840
Speaker 4: he We play so and So on Thursday. This is Sunday,

511
00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:58,280
Speaker 4: we play fucking who knows it might be a weaker team.

512
00:20:58,520 --> 00:21:00,880
Speaker 4: We're gonna play them right now. Might cush you out

513
00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:02,920
Speaker 4: to get you angry for that game Thursday. Like that's

514
00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:04,439
Speaker 4: the type of things Pop will do. It's like a

515
00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:06,480
Speaker 4: chess game. So it's like, all right, I know you're

516
00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:07,920
Speaker 4: chasing so and so. He may not be as good

517
00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:09,960
Speaker 4: chasing Kyle Kover, but you better be on your fuck

518
00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:12,000
Speaker 4: because we got Klay Toms and Seth Curry. So if

519
00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:14,160
Speaker 4: you don't do your job chasing James, I'm gonna cush

520
00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:15,400
Speaker 4: you out and take you out and you'd be sitting

521
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Speaker 4: in the doghouse. So I know that that you're gonna

522
00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:19,480
Speaker 4: be built up to where you're gonna take the game serious.

523
00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:21,120
Speaker 4: You have a sense of urgency, so when you're chasing

524
00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:22,960
Speaker 4: these other guys, you're gonna be ready, and then you

525
00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:25,600
Speaker 4: have some one of your better performances. So he's really

526
00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:27,359
Speaker 4: good at that playing the chess game, but also just

527
00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:28,560
Speaker 4: a get the best out of you and putting your

528
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Speaker 4: positions to be successful, Like, all right, this is what

529
00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:32,280
Speaker 4: you're good at. Gonna do that and you're gonna perfectice.

530
00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:34,640
Speaker 4: You're gonna be elite at this. You don't need to work.

531
00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:36,720
Speaker 4: You can work on some of that weaknesses here and there,

532
00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:38,840
Speaker 4: but you know, you're good at floats and penetrating the

533
00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:40,280
Speaker 4: pitching and find a guy, so you're gonna do that.

534
00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:42,520
Speaker 4: You shoot a three occasionally in the corner, so Tony

535
00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:45,040
Speaker 4: was really not shooting many threes outside of the corner

536
00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:47,679
Speaker 4: threes when he's wide open, you fatilitape, you don't have

537
00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:50,359
Speaker 4: an open shot. You find somebody and you you know,

538
00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:52,720
Speaker 4: do that. So they were really good with that and

539
00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:54,400
Speaker 4: not just pop with assistant coaches as well.

540
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Speaker 2: Danny do you have like a crazy or funny pop

541
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Speaker 2: story that won't lead your head like you always come

542
00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:02,320
Speaker 2: to you when people ask.

543
00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:04,400
Speaker 3: There's a thousand of them. It depends on situation.

544
00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:09,560
Speaker 4: You know, there's final situations, there's preseason situations. I always

545
00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:11,920
Speaker 4: love preseason pop because he's very more. He's a lot

546
00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:14,960
Speaker 4: more laxatic. Our preseasons were pretty like because we had

547
00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:17,040
Speaker 4: older guys. He messed with some of the new guys

548
00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:18,920
Speaker 4: coming in and cussed out the old guys to scare

549
00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:21,320
Speaker 4: the new guys and also throw them because he ain't

550
00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:23,000
Speaker 4: afraid to if you're new, to throw you in the fire.

551
00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:24,600
Speaker 4: So you get a call up and you're just I'm

552
00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:27,200
Speaker 4: just hit a cheer guys on no first quarter. He's

553
00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:28,760
Speaker 4: gonna throw you in the game and see if you're

554
00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:30,960
Speaker 4: fucking ready, like yo, oh John, let's go.

555
00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:32,159
Speaker 3: And you're like, I just got here.

556
00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:32,600
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

557
00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:34,440
Speaker 3: I don't even know the place, get in there. You

558
00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:36,280
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. He's gonna he's gonna call your number.

559
00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:39,440
Speaker 4: So I always enjoyed when he messed with those guys

560
00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:42,720
Speaker 4: and randomly select starters and see how the reaction is

561
00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:45,000
Speaker 4: and it makes some jokes. So I have a thousand

562
00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:46,520
Speaker 4: pop stories that stand out, and every time we went

563
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Speaker 4: to dinner. I remember going to dinner with him as

564
00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:51,240
Speaker 4: I got older and was comfortable enough to ask him

565
00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:53,520
Speaker 4: questions about like some of the things he did when

566
00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:54,560
Speaker 4: he played, and.

567
00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:55,800
Speaker 3: He's like, oh, you're got to fucking cut for some

568
00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:58,200
Speaker 3: and so they picked the wrong guy. You know, I

569
00:22:58,200 --> 00:22:59,080
Speaker 3: should have been playing.

570
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Speaker 4: And you know, his first experience, you know, when certain

571
00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:03,399
Speaker 4: things that I legal, when we got legal, you know,

572
00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:06,680
Speaker 4: his first experience we ever tried, you ever tried drugs before?

573
00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:09,119
Speaker 3: It's like, you know, he told the long story, but

574
00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:12,000
Speaker 3: I tried it one time. It didn't go well.

575
00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:13,360
Speaker 4: I didn't know where I was at, and I never

576
00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:15,359
Speaker 4: tried it toge like something like that. So those things

577
00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:17,640
Speaker 4: always stand out for me. Funny as hell, But those

578
00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:19,120
Speaker 4: things I would never ask when I was a kid.

579
00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:20,640
Speaker 4: I would ask when I was older. It's like, all right,

580
00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:22,800
Speaker 4: he's more comfortable telling me. And I've been with him

581
00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:24,720
Speaker 4: for six seven years, it's like, all right, he's you know,

582
00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:26,560
Speaker 4: I did this one time I was hanging out this girl.

583
00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:27,439
Speaker 3: I dropped off.

584
00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:28,800
Speaker 4: I forgot I dropped off, and I was like, he's like,

585
00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:31,600
Speaker 4: where's a Jenny or something like that. I never did

586
00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:32,800
Speaker 4: it again. I never tried it again.

587
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Speaker 1: So yeah, hey, how well do you think when you

588
00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:38,440
Speaker 1: can flaish under him, how can he still connect with

589
00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:39,480
Speaker 1: the young players?

590
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Speaker 4: He's adjusted well, man, I think he's had to, especially

591
00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:46,960
Speaker 4: with the Kawhi situation, and then when Damar came over

592
00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:49,359
Speaker 4: and LaMarcus came over, he had different personality, had to

593
00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:52,080
Speaker 4: adjust and adapt to because those guys are not saying

594
00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:54,600
Speaker 4: that they're not humble guys, but they're not like Timmy

595
00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:57,480
Speaker 4: Tony Mono, like the foreigners are just different, you know.

596
00:23:57,520 --> 00:24:01,160
Speaker 4: La Marcus humble guy was still like you know, he's

597
00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:04,080
Speaker 4: got superstars, Chawhi, sus Lamar, they used to being their

598
00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:06,200
Speaker 4: guys in their system before they came over.

599
00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:09,840
Speaker 3: And then we had Becky, So he had Becky. She

600
00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:12,480
Speaker 3: kind of interned first and then he helped. She helped

601
00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:14,160
Speaker 3: and now she's doing her thing with the women's Siwe.

602
00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:15,040
Speaker 3: She's do an amazing things.

603
00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:15,280
Speaker 1: Yeah.

604
00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:18,320
Speaker 3: So he's had descendants.

605
00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:21,040
Speaker 4: All over the league, all over the world, well, playing

606
00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:23,919
Speaker 4: coaching in Europe. So I think he's done an amazing

607
00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:26,800
Speaker 4: job allowing people to grow and also to learn his

608
00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:30,560
Speaker 4: system just not you know, women, men, kids, everybody. You

609
00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:33,919
Speaker 4: see that he's touched, I said him. Certain people have

610
00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:35,400
Speaker 4: the micas touch, you know what I'm saying, Like, they

611
00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:38,040
Speaker 4: always find ways to sprinkle it into people and they

612
00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:40,440
Speaker 4: become successful. You know, you see it in Miami and

613
00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:42,480
Speaker 4: you see it. You even see Lebron and his people

614
00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:45,080
Speaker 4: would clutch, you know, that type of thing. Certain guys

615
00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:47,399
Speaker 4: that he puts in certain positions, even his guys, and

616
00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:51,320
Speaker 4: he's able to make their platforms or whatever grow. Pop

617
00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:52,800
Speaker 4: is one of those guys and he's able to do

618
00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:54,720
Speaker 4: it not only with men, but on the women's side

619
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Speaker 4: as well.

620
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Speaker 2: Yeah, Danny, going back to one of your championships twenty

621
00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:02,400
Speaker 2: twenty Lakers the Internet. You know, Lakers haters of course.

622
00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:02,680
Speaker 1: Are out there.

623
00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:06,000
Speaker 2: They like to sit discount the bubble. They call it, oh,

624
00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:08,959
Speaker 2: the Disney Championship, the bubble let Mike your whatever, What

625
00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:11,439
Speaker 2: is your response to people who say that that title

626
00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:12,080
Speaker 2: was easier?

627
00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:14,479
Speaker 4: I mean, to each their own. You know, everybody has

628
00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:17,280
Speaker 4: their opinion. You know, everybody has one, some of them, madam,

629
00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:19,160
Speaker 4: some don't. Some of them hold more weight than others,

630
00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:21,280
Speaker 4: depend on where you've been and what you've done.

631
00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:22,679
Speaker 1: To me.

632
00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:25,880
Speaker 3: It was the hardest one mentally, physically, emotionally. It's just tough.

633
00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:29,720
Speaker 3: That's said. And I've spoken on this multiple times, hundreds

634
00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:32,879
Speaker 3: of times. No matter how nice you make an area,

635
00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:34,840
Speaker 3: it's still tough to be in it. And it was

636
00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:37,560
Speaker 3: a really nice resort, you know what I'm saying. But

637
00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:40,400
Speaker 3: being in that space for one hundred days, the first

638
00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:43,440
Speaker 3: two months without your family, friends, girlfriends, wives, et cetera,

639
00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:45,960
Speaker 3: and then being with them confined in a small space.

640
00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:48,719
Speaker 3: No matter how much you golf, no matter how much

641
00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:52,520
Speaker 3: you go to restaurants or walk around the facilities, it

642
00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:54,000
Speaker 3: closes in on you.

643
00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:57,320
Speaker 4: And it was it was tough. It was tough, But

644
00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:00,600
Speaker 4: what's that It was well worth it. We got a

645
00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:02,639
Speaker 4: chance to win and got out of there with a win.

646
00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:04,720
Speaker 4: Because I can imagine being on the other side of it,

647
00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:06,240
Speaker 4: your Miami. You have to go one hundred days and

648
00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:08,520
Speaker 4: then come out and lose. That's got to be to

649
00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:10,240
Speaker 4: go home with that, that's got to be a tough one.

650
00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:12,440
Speaker 4: Because even years that we did lose, when we weren't

651
00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:14,080
Speaker 4: in the bubble, it was a tough summer for me.

652
00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:16,800
Speaker 4: We had short summers. We lost to Miami. Short summer,

653
00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:18,400
Speaker 4: tough one and I got a chance to travel world

654
00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:20,080
Speaker 4: and do whatever and kind of like try to take

655
00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:22,280
Speaker 4: my mind off of it when you're in COVID in

656
00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:23,560
Speaker 4: the bubble and all you can think about that's the

657
00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:25,879
Speaker 4: only thing going on. When you're a basketball fan and

658
00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:29,240
Speaker 4: just a basketball like. You know, it says your passion.

659
00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:31,320
Speaker 4: It's hard to get your get away from it, and

660
00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:33,040
Speaker 4: it could wear on you a lot mentally.

661
00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:36,800
Speaker 1: Mhm. So it's so many young talented guards in the

662
00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:39,360
Speaker 1: league right now. Who you think it like? Your top

663
00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:41,119
Speaker 1: five you think right now? Because it's like, you know,

664
00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:43,760
Speaker 1: the game has changed. It's so different from it's different.

665
00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:49,120
Speaker 1: It can't be as physical and you know, so I wasn't.

666
00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:51,520
Speaker 3: Like jel, I know, bro, we' defensive guys. We were

667
00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:52,960
Speaker 3: to you know, be a physical guard.

668
00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:55,399
Speaker 1: Can somebody just tell me? The other day I had

669
00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:58,120
Speaker 1: said it on the O G's podcast, and I was like,

670
00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:00,239
Speaker 1: it's so different now. It's a lot. It's just really

671
00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:01,960
Speaker 1: about scoring, Like I mean, a lot of shots, a

672
00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:04,040
Speaker 1: lot of scoring and just a man like when you

673
00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:06,240
Speaker 1: first came and you could shoot fifteen to seventeen threes

674
00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:08,320
Speaker 1: in one game, you might behead director, you know what

675
00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:11,200
Speaker 1: I mean. Somebody telling them like you don't play defense.

676
00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:12,200
Speaker 1: I was like, if you don't think I did that,

677
00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:13,800
Speaker 1: your choice. I'm not about to argue with you, Like

678
00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:16,240
Speaker 1: you got your own point, but I just like to see,

679
00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:18,240
Speaker 1: like where everybody point of view, because you came in

680
00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:21,040
Speaker 1: a year right before me and know how it is,

681
00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:22,840
Speaker 1: like how the game was played, and like how do

682
00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:24,840
Speaker 1: you see, like who you think is your top five guard?

683
00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:26,120
Speaker 1: You think it's special right now?

684
00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:30,359
Speaker 4: To your point, it has changed a lot the game.

685
00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:32,680
Speaker 4: And I know, I remember I've seen the clip he says.

686
00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:35,040
Speaker 4: It's hard to watch at times it's just all offense.

687
00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:37,120
Speaker 4: I do like the fact that alim Sil was trying

688
00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:39,240
Speaker 4: to figure out a way to less defensive, because they

689
00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:40,359
Speaker 4: did change the rules a little bit.

690
00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:43,000
Speaker 3: You know, Trey used to James had us swipe through

691
00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:43,760
Speaker 3: the arms.

692
00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:47,600
Speaker 4: Can't play, they find ye, you stopped jump backwards.

693
00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:49,720
Speaker 3: You can't even defensively. They got screeners.

694
00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:52,760
Speaker 4: The toughest thing that said, these guys are so good,

695
00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:54,400
Speaker 4: it makes it even harder when you let Gowns seat

696
00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:55,120
Speaker 4: the legal screens.

697
00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:57,040
Speaker 3: We let him carry the ball trail.

698
00:27:57,240 --> 00:27:59,480
Speaker 4: I'm saying certain guys will make a decision shoot pass

699
00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:02,400
Speaker 4: football on the floor, double step backs now like it's

700
00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:03,120
Speaker 4: a different game.

701
00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:06,400
Speaker 3: But the young group for me, man I love.

702
00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:07,840
Speaker 4: And said, I'm biased because some of these kids I

703
00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:10,000
Speaker 4: got to play with him, watch up close, and you know,

704
00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:11,879
Speaker 4: Tyers Max is one of them, Desmond Dane and I

705
00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:14,840
Speaker 4: got to see John Moran if you know, things go

706
00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:16,680
Speaker 4: in the right direction for him. Those are young guys.

707
00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:18,440
Speaker 4: But guys that I didn't get a chance to see

708
00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:20,840
Speaker 4: or match up with, will play with. Anthony Edwards. I

709
00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:22,879
Speaker 4: got a chance to play against him. But he's starting

710
00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:24,000
Speaker 4: to come into it. You know, he's one of my

711
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:26,160
Speaker 4: favorite guys. When he's mustle TV yes night and night

712
00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:29,439
Speaker 4: out they're playing Utah Jazz. Nobody can see a Minnesota

713
00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:32,840
Speaker 4: Utah Jazz game. But when he's doing ship like that,

714
00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:36,320
Speaker 4: we got the posters. You gotta watch him, what I'm saying, like,

715
00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:38,200
Speaker 4: I got to see what he gonna do at night

716
00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:40,880
Speaker 4: and night out. There's some young guys that's like the

717
00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:44,040
Speaker 4: way who Jenleen Brunton's playing really well. Tyers Talbert had

718
00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:45,880
Speaker 4: a great such earlier. Right now he's struggling, but I

719
00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:48,640
Speaker 4: do I love the way he plays the game. But

720
00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:51,880
Speaker 4: it said something when it comes from Biggs Segoun from Houston.

721
00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:55,240
Speaker 4: I could see him being another Yokic coming up.

722
00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:58,920
Speaker 1: About him when I was there, he got a chance

723
00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:01,080
Speaker 1: to be special. I've seen up close and personal.

724
00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:03,280
Speaker 4: When you see it's like you don't really notice, and

725
00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:04,440
Speaker 4: when you get a chance to see it up close,

726
00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:06,640
Speaker 4: you're like, all right, I knew Tyreese Max is gonna

727
00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:08,240
Speaker 4: be just the way he carried himself, like, Yo, he's

728
00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:09,160
Speaker 4: gonna be good like he's in.

729
00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:10,600
Speaker 3: I didn't think it's gonna be superstar. I want to

730
00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:12,600
Speaker 3: shoven superstar that fast. And I'm like, yo, and wh

731
00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:14,320
Speaker 3: I've seen playing like he's gonna be a star and

732
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:17,440
Speaker 3: you can see it saying is another good thick Wenby.

733
00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:18,920
Speaker 3: Haven't got a chance to see him up close, but

734
00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:21,640
Speaker 3: just watching how he moves, I'm not gonna lie. Like

735
00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:23,960
Speaker 3: at first, I was like, we're not having another bow

736
00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:24,440
Speaker 3: Bol situation.

737
00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:24,760
Speaker 1: I don't.

738
00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:26,680
Speaker 4: I just couldn't see a seven to five guy being

739
00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:29,600
Speaker 4: effective and being that light and thin. But in today's

740
00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:32,160
Speaker 4: game before it stretch him and check, those guys are

741
00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:34,760
Speaker 4: gonna be young enough and coming. But outside of these

742
00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:37,400
Speaker 4: really young guys, you know, you got Shay, you got Luca,

743
00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:40,520
Speaker 4: you know those guys Jason Tatum that the kind of

744
00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:42,440
Speaker 4: right now running the league, and I think the league's

745
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:47,040
Speaker 4: in a good space. Jaylen Williams another kid people see

746
00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:50,360
Speaker 4: that backcourt man. Those those kids are unbelievable. They really

747
00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:54,000
Speaker 4: deserve their flowers offensively and defensively. They're gonna be okay,

748
00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:55,760
Speaker 4: See it's gonna be And you know we were making

749
00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:57,440
Speaker 4: fun of Okay, see just a year or two like

750
00:29:57,440 --> 00:29:59,040
Speaker 4: this is so terrible. Why you know what I'm saying.

751
00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:00,880
Speaker 4: They have always picks, Why they not using them? Getting

752
00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:02,480
Speaker 4: rid of them? They're gonna be bad for them. They

753
00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:05,480
Speaker 4: shave has really turned that organization around, and then bringing

754
00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:08,800
Speaker 4: in Jaylen Williams aboard and then Check getting healthy. So

755
00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:10,640
Speaker 4: you know, So those are some of the young guys

756
00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:13,000
Speaker 4: that I like to watch and said I want to

757
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:14,520
Speaker 4: see jogging back. But I think the NBA is in

758
00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:16,280
Speaker 4: a good space right now because I rest. I wonder

759
00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:18,560
Speaker 4: when bron is gone, when the old two guy's.

760
00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:18,920
Speaker 3: Gone as league.

761
00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:20,680
Speaker 4: I think the league is a really good hands right

762
00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:23,920
Speaker 4: now and a good space with hopefully Zion's staying healthy

763
00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:26,760
Speaker 4: and all these other guys that I just mentioned coming

764
00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:28,600
Speaker 4: into their own and coming into their prime.

765
00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:33,160
Speaker 2: Danny staying on the young guys conversation. You know, we

766
00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:35,400
Speaker 2: have the Thunder, we had the Timberwolves kind of hovering

767
00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:37,840
Speaker 2: that one and two spot. But everyone's still picking the Nuggets.

768
00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:39,880
Speaker 2: Everyone's still picking you know, Celtics to make it there.

769
00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:42,560
Speaker 2: So it is is experience. Can you talk about how

770
00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:45,280
Speaker 2: that experience kind of like really comes into play in

771
00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:46,640
Speaker 2: the playoffs?

772
00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:49,360
Speaker 4: Huge man, because when it comes down to the playoffs,

773
00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:51,840
Speaker 4: the game slows down his fourth quarter execution, you know,

774
00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:56,080
Speaker 4: And that's what's what experience. If you haven't been there before,

775
00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:58,160
Speaker 4: you don't know how you're going to react, and you

776
00:30:58,200 --> 00:30:59,600
Speaker 4: don't know how your players can react. When it comes

777
00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:01,360
Speaker 4: to coach also coaching, you don't know how coach is

778
00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:03,760
Speaker 4: gonna react. They may over coach. They may not know

779
00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:06,360
Speaker 4: what play to call, who to put in. They may

780
00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:08,720
Speaker 4: not trust this guy or trust that when it's like

781
00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:11,040
Speaker 4: all right, and it all comes down to when when

782
00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:12,440
Speaker 4: I think of plays, it comes down to not only

783
00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:14,280
Speaker 4: your stars, but your X factors, And is the coach

784
00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:15,320
Speaker 4: gonna put those guys.

785
00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:19,560
Speaker 3: In the position too to help save the group? You

786
00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:20,000
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying.

787
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:23,240
Speaker 4: It might be like, say, if it's not Bostons in

788
00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:27,760
Speaker 4: Minnesota saying all right, we got Uh, what's the other

789
00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:30,240
Speaker 4: other group who's coming up? The man Mike Connley, Olvise's

790
00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:36,280
Speaker 4: a that but like another young kid.

791
00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:39,240
Speaker 1: McDaniels, Yeah, Jada McDaniels, Alexander Walker.

792
00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:41,680
Speaker 4: Like those guys, those are the guys they're gonna need

793
00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:43,400
Speaker 4: to step up. You know, I'm saying, Athe's gonna do

794
00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:44,680
Speaker 4: what he does. Cat's gonna do what he does.

795
00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:46,880
Speaker 3: Go Bear, Mike Collin. But like when it comes to

796
00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:47,920
Speaker 3: the playoffs, the game solds down.

797
00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:50,280
Speaker 4: We need somebody to come out of their their own

798
00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:52,719
Speaker 4: and win it's a series, win us a game, and

799
00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:54,440
Speaker 4: that could be like one of those guys when it

800
00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:56,600
Speaker 4: comes to Okay, see it may not be check Jalen

801
00:31:57,120 --> 00:31:58,680
Speaker 4: or you know, it might be Isaiah Joe coming off

802
00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:00,320
Speaker 4: the bench. You know, we need him and score for team.

803
00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:03,000
Speaker 4: For us, the average fifteen for the series. That changes

804
00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:05,280
Speaker 4: the whole day. The other team didn't game plan for that.

805
00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:09,080
Speaker 4: So experience is huge when it comes to the playoffs,

806
00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:11,080
Speaker 4: because playoffs, when it comes down to it, every team

807
00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:14,040
Speaker 4: knows everybody's plays, and it comes executing for forty eight

808
00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:15,720
Speaker 4: minutes or for longer of the forty eight minutes and

809
00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:18,440
Speaker 4: another team and usually that comes down to experience, and

810
00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:21,840
Speaker 4: nobody's Denver, Jamal and Yoki. They know each other so well.

811
00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:23,720
Speaker 4: It's like they all, right, fourth quarter, we know we're

812
00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:27,320
Speaker 4: doing San Antonio. We had four players. Everybody knew when

813
00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:29,720
Speaker 4: they were coming. They still couldn't stop them because we

814
00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:31,280
Speaker 4: just knew each other so well. It's like we knew

815
00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:33,880
Speaker 4: they cut this off, there's another option, Tony coming back door,

816
00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:36,560
Speaker 4: so and so, Manu here, and it was just all

817
00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:40,200
Speaker 4: some guys that in that moment, even though they know

818
00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:42,320
Speaker 4: the plays, they might get nervous and mess it up

819
00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:44,240
Speaker 4: because they don't have that experience. They're just like, ohr,

820
00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:45,920
Speaker 4: the lights might get to them. You don't know how

821
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:47,719
Speaker 4: they're going to react in those moments when it comes

822
00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:50,440
Speaker 4: down to executing in front of twenty thousand fans screaming

823
00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:53,720
Speaker 4: on the road and when you know there's something on

824
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:54,120
Speaker 4: the line.

825
00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:57,080
Speaker 3: So experience plays a huge factor when it comes to winning.

826
00:32:56,920 --> 00:33:00,360
Speaker 1: Championship for sure. I mean we just playing in playoffs

827
00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:03,320
Speaker 1: early on. We had Trevor Reza and they taught us

828
00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:05,480
Speaker 1: so much about like I didn't know, you know, like

829
00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:08,000
Speaker 1: the first possession, somebody like they don't mean nothing. I Rember,

830
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:10,000
Speaker 1: I didn't get back Trevor fetched me out so bad.

831
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:12,239
Speaker 1: He's like, no, every fucking possession means something, and it

832
00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:14,920
Speaker 1: really does. Like Denny said, like you knew everybody play,

833
00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:17,920
Speaker 1: you know they want to run. I remember, I think

834
00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:21,000
Speaker 1: it was twenty fourteen while we were playing Indiana and

835
00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:22,680
Speaker 1: we knew that was running the side pick and roll

836
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:26,280
Speaker 1: with George Hill and David West pocket pass with You

837
00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:28,280
Speaker 1: couldn't help because Paul George in the strong corner. So

838
00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:29,480
Speaker 1: it was like, how did we stop it? Like we

839
00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:31,240
Speaker 1: knew to play, but it was just bread and butter.

840
00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:34,080
Speaker 1: So experience definitely comes to factor too. It like my

841
00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:36,400
Speaker 1: first time in the plous we didn't know. We knew

842
00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:37,880
Speaker 1: we wanted to run the fourth quarter, but we were

843
00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:39,880
Speaker 1: just nervous. We never was in that position before. But

844
00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:42,040
Speaker 1: then the next year after that, I finally had that

845
00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:45,360
Speaker 1: experience understood. And then my last year twenty seventeen, we

846
00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:47,560
Speaker 1: lost to the Celtics. We knew I was gonna kill.

847
00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:48,680
Speaker 1: He was gonna do his thing, you know, he was

848
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:51,400
Speaker 1: scoring at the high level. But Game seven, kay Lynn

849
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:53,400
Speaker 1: went for like fifteen and the fourth quarter that we

850
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:54,920
Speaker 1: didn't expect.

851
00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:55,160
Speaker 3: Didn't plan for.

852
00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:57,040
Speaker 4: At least y'all have to experience like it took years

853
00:33:57,400 --> 00:33:59,520
Speaker 4: years of like finally all right, feel comfortable in that

854
00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:03,200
Speaker 4: space and said, every every possession matters. It started the

855
00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:04,720
Speaker 4: game to the end because it sets the tone, and

856
00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:07,000
Speaker 4: that first possession sets the tone. And I remember the

857
00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:08,680
Speaker 4: year that we won it in twenty fourteen. We came

858
00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:11,360
Speaker 4: back next year, it was wild in the West. We

859
00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:13,120
Speaker 4: lost the game. We was two seed, lost the last

860
00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:14,640
Speaker 4: game of the season ended up being a seventeen.

861
00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:16,759
Speaker 3: We played the Clippers in the first round, and this

862
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:18,799
Speaker 3: is when I think they might have had I don't know.

863
00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:20,319
Speaker 4: This was a short season. We had back to back

864
00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:23,640
Speaker 4: in the playoffs. Was crazy and two seeds versus seven

865
00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:25,360
Speaker 4: seed and it's us the Clippers. Really should be a

866
00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:28,120
Speaker 4: Western Conference final matchup, but it's a first round matchup.

867
00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:32,160
Speaker 4: And to start the game, I'm guarding JJ with chasing

868
00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:34,839
Speaker 4: and which sutting down Jaja JJ's first quarter, he's getting

869
00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:37,359
Speaker 4: everything shot to look like not shutting down, but we're

870
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:39,600
Speaker 4: keeping him contained, you know what I'm saying. And all

871
00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:41,239
Speaker 4: of a sudden, Matt Barnes is getting three and like

872
00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:43,880
Speaker 4: what the and kawhi Jar you know, they're like and

873
00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:45,839
Speaker 4: it's like yo, Timmy's like Yo, you can't. We can't

874
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:47,759
Speaker 4: allow this to happen, like you can't like and for

875
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:50,239
Speaker 4: Timmy to say something, you know, go at quiet in

876
00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:52,360
Speaker 4: a huddle, let him know, like, yo, wake up, you

877
00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:52,879
Speaker 4: know this is time.

878
00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:55,320
Speaker 3: It don't matter first quarter four like its first possession.

879
00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:56,799
Speaker 3: You got to make sure you don't. You can't let

880
00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:59,279
Speaker 3: guys like this hurt us. We can't prepare what we

881
00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:01,799
Speaker 3: prepare for. Jas had to score ten to fifteen. We

882
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:03,840
Speaker 3: can't prepare for Matt Barnes scored nine points in the

883
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:06,200
Speaker 3: first court, Like, nah, he's supposed to stay under his

884
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:07,440
Speaker 3: four points or within that.

885
00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:09,719
Speaker 4: If he affects the game, that changes the heart, like yo,

886
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:12,239
Speaker 4: now we got to stop other guys. So all those

887
00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:15,839
Speaker 4: possessions matter, man, and Tony was a big Timmy. All

888
00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:17,759
Speaker 4: those guys are big on like letting you know when

889
00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:19,960
Speaker 4: you're messing up and when you need to execute and

890
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:21,960
Speaker 4: be on your p's and q's, like look, don't dick

891
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:23,200
Speaker 4: around like you need to be awake.

892
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:25,120
Speaker 3: Wake the fun and that pop was great at that too.

893
00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:26,840
Speaker 3: You cuss everybody out. Anybody.

894
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:30,360
Speaker 2: I got a question for both you guys, because you

895
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:32,279
Speaker 2: and c and Kentucky going back to college a little

896
00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:34,160
Speaker 2: bit with the tournament coming up, I wanted to ask

897
00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:36,680
Speaker 2: you if you guys could build your all time five

898
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:39,960
Speaker 2: from your respective schools. So you and c versus Kentucky,

899
00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:41,520
Speaker 2: who do you think would win?

900
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:45,839
Speaker 3: They have a great they have a great alum man, unbelievable.

901
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:48,800
Speaker 3: But when we have Mike, that's tough.

902
00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:53,520
Speaker 4: We have Mike, you know it, It's tough to compete

903
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:55,319
Speaker 4: that we have Mike, Evince, we got Stack, we got

904
00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:57,760
Speaker 4: guys in our even our second unit would be pretty good.

905
00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:00,319
Speaker 3: I know as of late, our alum had hasn't been

906
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:00,680
Speaker 3: as good.

907
00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:04,040
Speaker 4: So like, if you go by era, it'll be a

908
00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:06,120
Speaker 4: tough like Kentucky can probably get us in you know,

909
00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:08,520
Speaker 4: certain maybe twenty twenty tens.

910
00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

911
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:11,560
Speaker 4: Like later, like are a lot of our guys back

912
00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:14,400
Speaker 4: in the day with Sam Perkins, like Anteline Jamison. The

913
00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:17,120
Speaker 4: Vince says back, there's so many guys that we can

914
00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:18,799
Speaker 4: list off. But if you go by error, it'll be

915
00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:20,560
Speaker 4: a tough matchup. But if you go all time, I

916
00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:23,600
Speaker 4: think it's a tough when you have Mike, Vince, stag

917
00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:28,239
Speaker 4: Twan Jamison. She I mean, and this is before you

918
00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:31,200
Speaker 4: college played, But Tyler Tala had this great run in.

919
00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:31,960
Speaker 1: The in college.

920
00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:34,960
Speaker 4: Talla Hansbrough had a great college career and recently had

921
00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:37,320
Speaker 4: a rankings of like the best college careers.

922
00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:39,279
Speaker 1: And I think it has to be. It has to be.

923
00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:41,600
Speaker 3: And it was interesting to me to see like that

924
00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:43,040
Speaker 3: they did a lot of one and done's.

925
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:44,600
Speaker 4: But we have we have a Really it'd be a

926
00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:46,680
Speaker 4: hell of a matchup, I'll tell you that, regardless of

927
00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:50,080
Speaker 4: what the lineups are, because you got azcause you got

928
00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:50,800
Speaker 4: all those guys.

929
00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:55,279
Speaker 1: Man, it's just that you hit it right. I know,

930
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:57,440
Speaker 1: Like it depends on what the game is so different.

931
00:36:57,600 --> 00:36:59,640
Speaker 1: So that says all the time because somebody just I

932
00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:02,160
Speaker 1: think Book and Matt Barr just had one about like

933
00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:04,840
Speaker 1: you as Kentucky and they was like putting their teams

934
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:08,640
Speaker 1: together and stack. Stephen Jashon was like, hell no, mad,

935
00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:10,400
Speaker 1: the team you put together and have a chance.

936
00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:13,520
Speaker 4: Ye because like I mean, if you now old enough

937
00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:16,600
Speaker 4: to because back when we idolize those guys, they're still great.

938
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:19,480
Speaker 3: When you watch the eighties and nineties, the basketball is

939
00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:22,239
Speaker 3: so different, like completely still set now.

940
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:24,760
Speaker 4: It's like yo Ad is shooting three, like the Bigs

941
00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:26,000
Speaker 4: weren't shooting threes back then.

942
00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:27,640
Speaker 3: What I'm saying, like able to handle the ball.

943
00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:31,600
Speaker 4: Becuz was handling the ball, shooting threes, doing like That's

944
00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:35,439
Speaker 4: a tough matchup for fucking Anton Jamison. That's a tough

945
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:39,240
Speaker 4: matchup for she any of those guys playing a big spots.

946
00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:43,520
Speaker 4: So it's different games, hard to compare. I do love

947
00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:45,680
Speaker 4: where the game is growing, though, and I do still

948
00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:48,080
Speaker 4: respect old the elders, the older guys that paved the

949
00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:51,640
Speaker 4: way for us, and they are great. But these kids nowadays,

950
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:54,279
Speaker 4: they're doing stuff so step backs and euro steps. We

951
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:55,560
Speaker 4: weren't doing that shit in high school.

952
00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:58,600
Speaker 1: Man getting called for travelers. Yeah, they wouldn't know what

953
00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:00,440
Speaker 1: it was. I mean the first time a step in

954
00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:03,600
Speaker 1: high school, the rep called travel. I'm like, what I said,

955
00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:06,000
Speaker 1: you must not be watching. I do not watch no NBA.

956
00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:08,440
Speaker 3: They showed a flip of the first euro step. I

957
00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:09,920
Speaker 3: think it was Dominique Wilkins back.

958
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:10,560
Speaker 1: In the day.

959
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:13,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's bad they called the travel. They called the

960
00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:15,120
Speaker 3: travel and I'm like, that's a clean move. It was nice.

961
00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:17,080
Speaker 4: I think you might have missed it, but it was smooth.

962
00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:18,759
Speaker 4: They didn't know what it was. Because they didn't know

963
00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:19,960
Speaker 4: what it was, they just called the travel. I was like,

964
00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:22,239
Speaker 4: damn back and eighties actually tried it just eleven.

965
00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:25,120
Speaker 2: What happened was Genobo getting called for him early on.

966
00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:26,680
Speaker 3: No no, no, no, no, he's one of the first that

967
00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:28,239
Speaker 3: he's one of the first to kind of bring it

968
00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:30,720
Speaker 3: over for real. Yeah, he was one of the trend setters.

969
00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:33,840
Speaker 4: And then obviously, you know, James kind of made it

970
00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:35,640
Speaker 4: a perfect like affected that and then the step back

971
00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:37,480
Speaker 4: and then double step back. But the Euros are the

972
00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:40,040
Speaker 4: ones that kind of brought it over and made it

973
00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:43,279
Speaker 4: more like they normalized it so where it's like, yeah,

974
00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:44,560
Speaker 4: we do this in Europe, and in Europe they called

975
00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:46,000
Speaker 4: more travels there than they do here.

976
00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:48,680
Speaker 3: So in an NBA they want to see entertainment. You

977
00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:50,000
Speaker 3: what I'm saying, They're not going to call as many

978
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:52,080
Speaker 3: travels depend on who you are, not calling carries and

979
00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:54,879
Speaker 3: travels and double troubles. You know, certain guys, certain guys

980
00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:55,319
Speaker 3: make it it.

981
00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:58,000
Speaker 4: But it's like if this is a special player and

982
00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:00,800
Speaker 4: he acts like he knows what he's doing, it's clean.

983
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:05,360
Speaker 4: You know, bron might do a spin move until you're like, oh, Bron,

984
00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:08,759
Speaker 4: he did it like he was confidence had gotta be.

985
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:12,040
Speaker 1: It's like Joanna's coming in transition, like you know you

986
00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:13,719
Speaker 1: can do you taking three steps, like I barely get

987
00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:16,399
Speaker 1: stop him taking two steps. So it's like picking choose.

988
00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:19,160
Speaker 1: So the tournament getting close, how far you think Carolina

989
00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:22,080
Speaker 1: can go? We both, we both both for our teams

990
00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:23,440
Speaker 1: that just at least y'all made it to the a

991
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:25,440
Speaker 1: SEC Championship when my team fell in the first round,

992
00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:28,120
Speaker 1: which I was upset about. But you know, like I

993
00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:30,920
Speaker 1: was saying earlier to CJ, it's like, it's tough to

994
00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:33,440
Speaker 1: win non straight, Like I mean when the conference tournament

995
00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:34,560
Speaker 1: then to go no, you.

996
00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:37,239
Speaker 4: Need that loss, you need that lost. That loss is necessary.

997
00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:39,520
Speaker 4: And every time we won a SEC title, we lost

998
00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:41,160
Speaker 4: in the tournament. So that's why I do care if

999
00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:45,720
Speaker 4: Carolina one a SC like the conference uh tournament because

1000
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:47,479
Speaker 4: I wanted us to have a better chance because winning

1001
00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:49,239
Speaker 4: the tournament it's hard to go in. You need that,

1002
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:51,200
Speaker 4: you need a little edge, and you need to your shoulders.

1003
00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:53,520
Speaker 4: So I like our chances. I don't like the fact

1004
00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:55,279
Speaker 4: that we lost NC State in the Championshi game. I

1005
00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:57,160
Speaker 4: didn't want us to win it though, but the fact

1006
00:39:57,160 --> 00:39:57,880
Speaker 4: that we lost.

1007
00:39:57,640 --> 00:40:01,759
Speaker 3: To them, I'm like, damn the State. What I'm saying, Yeah,

1008
00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:02,960
Speaker 3: but they're not duke out.

1009
00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:04,640
Speaker 4: So like cool whatever, and so they would let them

1010
00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:07,680
Speaker 4: have at But I like our chances. I do like

1011
00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:09,400
Speaker 4: Kentucky's chances as well. I think this is one of

1012
00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:11,160
Speaker 4: the years that we can get it done for sure,

1013
00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:13,040
Speaker 4: gets to the final four. It'd be nice if so.

1014
00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:15,759
Speaker 4: I'll be covering them on Yahoo. But we have a

1015
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:17,880
Speaker 4: good group, and I think our bracket is pretty I

1016
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:20,200
Speaker 4: want to say easy, but it's one of the easier ones.

1017
00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:21,160
Speaker 4: It's it's pretty smooth.

1018
00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:27,560
Speaker 1: I think you know, Sunday you get the hardest bracket.

1019
00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:30,560
Speaker 4: Yukon I think has the toughest one. Kentucky has a

1020
00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:31,279
Speaker 4: pretty good one.

1021
00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:33,760
Speaker 1: Like y'all. In the second round we might have Texas

1022
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:35,120
Speaker 1: or they will.

1023
00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:37,480
Speaker 4: But has a pretty smooth and we have a pretty

1024
00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:40,000
Speaker 4: pretty good one. So I like our bracket. I don't

1025
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:41,520
Speaker 4: like the fact of them might have to stay Michigan

1026
00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:45,160
Speaker 4: see Michigan State second and second third game. And then

1027
00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:49,200
Speaker 4: Baylor's in our bracket. But outside of that, Yukon's got Illinois, Auburn,

1028
00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:52,279
Speaker 4: all of them, it's to Kentucky. Y'all got some depending on

1029
00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:54,400
Speaker 4: y'all had a bracket where the guys are injuries, so

1030
00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:57,920
Speaker 4: like Houston, They're a little shaky, but they got I.

1031
00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:00,319
Speaker 1: Feel like Houston, Houston gets there every year year and

1032
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:02,239
Speaker 1: then like right around the tournament time, they start to

1033
00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:04,080
Speaker 1: fall apart, like they have a good team every year.

1034
00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:06,279
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think the Marquete guard might be

1035
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:06,799
Speaker 1: out right.

1036
00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:08,839
Speaker 4: There are seasons based on that, whether he can get

1037
00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:11,960
Speaker 4: healthy or not and get back. Wisconsin has a good

1038
00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:14,839
Speaker 4: decent group. I have some sleepers, but I think y'all

1039
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:16,880
Speaker 4: could definitely come out. Y'all can make it out. But

1040
00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:19,359
Speaker 4: I like I like our chances. I like our chances

1041
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:20,000
Speaker 4: with our bracket.

1042
00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:22,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, for us. The most important thing for us, like

1043
00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:24,279
Speaker 1: we can score the ball at a high level. I

1044
00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:26,360
Speaker 1: just think they have to lock in defense, you know

1045
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:28,759
Speaker 1: how it is like to like the way they play

1046
00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:30,840
Speaker 1: defense when they went to Tennessee the last game in

1047
00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:33,160
Speaker 1: the regular season and one. If they can play that defense,

1048
00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:33,879
Speaker 1: they have a great chance.

1049
00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:36,120
Speaker 4: I got a lot of talent, a lot of NBA players.

1050
00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:38,640
Speaker 4: You have a mix, I think you have on the younger,

1051
00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:40,600
Speaker 4: younger side. You have to rely on some of younger

1052
00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:43,399
Speaker 4: guys to like keep it consistent because they've been great

1053
00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:45,200
Speaker 4: all season. Now it's like tournament time. Are you're gonna

1054
00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:46,040
Speaker 4: when the lights are break?

1055
00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:48,720
Speaker 1: Are you gonna when the moment?

1056
00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:50,279
Speaker 4: Are they gonna keep it going? You have to win

1057
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:51,880
Speaker 4: your losses. That's why I tell people in the tournament,

1058
00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:52,960
Speaker 4: you gotta win your losses.

1059
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:53,319
Speaker 1: The nights.

1060
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:56,000
Speaker 4: When you play shitty, you find a way to get

1061
00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:58,319
Speaker 4: a W. So I think Carolina at least makes the

1062
00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:00,239
Speaker 4: final four. I'll be happy with that. If they have

1063
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:01,759
Speaker 4: to face like a Yukon On somebody in the final

1064
00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:03,120
Speaker 4: four and they lose, I'm like, all right, I understand

1065
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:05,040
Speaker 4: is Connecticut is unbelievable, but.

1066
00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:07,120
Speaker 3: I'm hoping that somebody knocks them out early. I think

1067
00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:08,319
Speaker 3: Auburn might get them.

1068
00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:11,600
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think that's like the most team. It's like complete,

1069
00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:13,840
Speaker 1: like they just knowed who they are, Like they know

1070
00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:15,440
Speaker 1: where they already brought a lot of guys back from

1071
00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:18,560
Speaker 1: last year. They just completely know who they are. I'm

1072
00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:20,520
Speaker 1: super excited for the tournament time. I think I might

1073
00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:22,120
Speaker 1: sneak down to the final four and see.

1074
00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:22,880
Speaker 3: It's gonna be a fun one.

1075
00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:23,000
Speaker 1: Man.

1076
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:24,600
Speaker 3: It's in Phoenix, so it ain't a bad place to be,

1077
00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:25,480
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying.

1078
00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:28,480
Speaker 2: Uh, Danny, I wanted to ask you because you had

1079
00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:30,279
Speaker 2: an interesting thing in your career. You played with two

1080
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:32,200
Speaker 2: thousand and nine Lebron and then you play with twenty

1081
00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:36,200
Speaker 2: twenty Lebron. Were there specific differences between the two different Lebrons.

1082
00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:38,279
Speaker 4: He was still the same. He was a big kid,

1083
00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:40,439
Speaker 4: but he found he knew how to win at that point.

1084
00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:42,120
Speaker 4: He learned how to when he went down to SPA

1085
00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:46,840
Speaker 4: in Miami. He knew how important the details and execution was.

1086
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:48,719
Speaker 4: He always had a great mind for the game. He

1087
00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:50,759
Speaker 4: always understood the game. He knew it greatly. He was

1088
00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:52,560
Speaker 4: a big that it had shack too at the time.

1089
00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:55,000
Speaker 4: Big ass kids you know, play a lot, played around

1090
00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:56,359
Speaker 4: a lot like a lot of fun.

1091
00:42:57,239 --> 00:42:58,880
Speaker 3: But said he knew how to take it serious. He

1092
00:42:58,960 --> 00:42:59,880
Speaker 3: knew what he needed.

1093
00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:02,000
Speaker 4: Around him to get it done, and he also knew

1094
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:04,000
Speaker 4: the details of like, yo, now we can walk through.

1095
00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:05,560
Speaker 3: Let's go over that again. I don't like that. I

1096
00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:07,960
Speaker 3: don't like him there. Let's make sure let's get this.

1097
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:08,879
Speaker 3: Let's change that now.

1098
00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:11,640
Speaker 4: And because some people go through rounds like we all

1099
00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:16,640
Speaker 4: hate you rouns fucking pointless. But if you serious for

1100
00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:18,000
Speaker 4: no reason during the season is like, all right, we

1101
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:19,000
Speaker 4: played these guys last week.

1102
00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:21,359
Speaker 3: We don't need this. But in the playoffs walk through.

1103
00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:22,759
Speaker 4: If you take them tore you get you can get

1104
00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:25,080
Speaker 4: something out of especially mentals like all right, make sure

1105
00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:26,600
Speaker 4: so we know we're going over this is what they're

1106
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:29,280
Speaker 4: gonna do. And when they do do this, make this adjustment.

1107
00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:31,799
Speaker 4: What are we gonna adjust to? So yeah, he was

1108
00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:33,680
Speaker 4: big on that in the details, and I think he

1109
00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:35,120
Speaker 4: learned that when he got to Miami. So that's the

1110
00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:37,600
Speaker 4: only difference outside of that. Still a big ass kid

1111
00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:40,120
Speaker 4: man like to have fun and play the game is

1112
00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:42,560
Speaker 4: just to there's times where he can go off and

1113
00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:45,200
Speaker 4: as times he said he's gonna make the game easier

1114
00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:48,640
Speaker 4: for you and said during this times where it's like

1115
00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:50,680
Speaker 4: all right, he's gonna challenge you. So it's like, yeah,

1116
00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:52,640
Speaker 4: you better step up to the plate and he's going

1117
00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:54,680
Speaker 4: to make sure you better be there or he's gonna

1118
00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:56,680
Speaker 4: be like, yo, you're not doing your job. So you

1119
00:43:56,760 --> 00:43:58,799
Speaker 4: just gonna make sure you're you're on your your p's

1120
00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:01,680
Speaker 4: and q's too to not let him or the rest

1121
00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:02,319
Speaker 4: of the group down.

1122
00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:05,520
Speaker 1: So now you and your now you got your own podcast.

1123
00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:07,560
Speaker 1: Inside the green room, Danny Green like, how do you

1124
00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:09,800
Speaker 1: feel about, like, let me take it that next step

1125
00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:11,480
Speaker 1: of going into that and been into the podcast.

1126
00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:14,080
Speaker 4: Feel yeah, man, I love it, man, especially in the

1127
00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:15,759
Speaker 4: fact that everybody's doing it, man, Like you know what

1128
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:17,640
Speaker 4: I'm saying, seeing you guys, seeing you have your own

1129
00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:19,080
Speaker 4: Bronz JJ, all those guys.

1130
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:20,759
Speaker 3: I'm this is year six for me.

1131
00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:22,920
Speaker 4: I've been doing it and I started doing it right

1132
00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:24,719
Speaker 4: when right before the trade me who I.

1133
00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:25,640
Speaker 3: Got traded to Toronto.

1134
00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:28,200
Speaker 4: It was just another way for me because I always

1135
00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:29,440
Speaker 4: know what I wanted to do after ball, and I

1136
00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:32,759
Speaker 4: wanted to get into the media space because coaching, I

1137
00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:34,239
Speaker 4: think I'd be good at it, but I just think

1138
00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:37,120
Speaker 4: it's too stressful. I don't want to I don't want

1139
00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:38,680
Speaker 4: to mess with it, man, saying I like to keep

1140
00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:40,800
Speaker 4: my hair the color it is, and I like to

1141
00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:42,160
Speaker 4: keep my hair. I don't want to be going balved,

1142
00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:44,759
Speaker 4: people going bolved getting great hair. And you know the

1143
00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:47,120
Speaker 4: stress of the player, man, Like we take on a lot.

1144
00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:51,360
Speaker 3: There's a house. I can imagine relying on other grown

1145
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:53,920
Speaker 3: men to keep your jobs to building like, this's an

1146
00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:56,399
Speaker 3: unstable job for me. So I wanted to get into

1147
00:44:56,400 --> 00:44:57,040
Speaker 3: the media space.

1148
00:44:57,080 --> 00:45:00,480
Speaker 4: So this was ultimately me getting reps, talking to front camera,

1149
00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:03,000
Speaker 4: presenting myself how to talk the game, how to give thoughts,

1150
00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:07,040
Speaker 4: breakdowns in certain time periods, also give my opinion, Also

1151
00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:09,239
Speaker 4: have a platform, have a voice to use it for

1152
00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:13,160
Speaker 4: other things. When COVID's happening, when black math, black Lives

1153
00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:16,239
Speaker 4: Matter movements are happening, talking in you know, in the

1154
00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:19,080
Speaker 4: political space. But also you know a lound players that

1155
00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:22,640
Speaker 4: have ultimately changed us to have more power and say

1156
00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:24,680
Speaker 4: so with guys, you know, being.

1157
00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:26,960
Speaker 3: Mistreated in the industry.

1158
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:29,640
Speaker 4: So there's hell is a lot of stories of guys,

1159
00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:32,360
Speaker 4: certain gms doing the wrong way, certain coaches in the

1160
00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:35,080
Speaker 4: worldway coaches and gms are less likely to do that

1161
00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:37,640
Speaker 4: now when guys are able to talk and their they're

1162
00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:42,000
Speaker 4: on space freely about you know, their experiences and also said.

1163
00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:43,520
Speaker 3: They have more power what they want to do, where

1164
00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:43,960
Speaker 3: they want to go.

1165
00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:47,400
Speaker 4: And and you know, players are frowned upon when they

1166
00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:49,839
Speaker 4: were asking for trades when they want to go here,

1167
00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:53,640
Speaker 4: you know, and a lot of fans they only see

1168
00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:57,600
Speaker 4: what the media prints. Again, so they're alway going to

1169
00:45:57,640 --> 00:46:00,000
Speaker 4: take the negative, the dramatic kind of like the content

1170
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:01,919
Speaker 4: and that always draws you, Oh, so and so wants

1171
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:03,640
Speaker 4: to trade, so and so doesn't like this, and it's like, yo,

1172
00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:06,520
Speaker 4: I said this. They takes small bits and pieces of

1173
00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:08,799
Speaker 4: what you're saying and not the full story just to

1174
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:12,279
Speaker 4: get clicks. And now that also allows us to be like, oh, yeah,

1175
00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:13,719
Speaker 4: I said this, but this is what I meant. It's

1176
00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:15,480
Speaker 4: not how I said that. You know what I'm saying, Like,

1177
00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:18,399
Speaker 4: it's all context and tone, and it's like they can

1178
00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:19,799
Speaker 4: take one small thing and take it act and now

1179
00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:21,440
Speaker 4: it's like players able to like, look, this is what

1180
00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:24,200
Speaker 4: I was thinking. Now that fans get insight, this is oh,

1181
00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:26,440
Speaker 4: this is what really was happening. He's not just a dummy.

1182
00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:28,120
Speaker 4: He didn't make this mistake or he didn't just say that,

1183
00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:30,040
Speaker 4: or he's not trying to come at his teammate, or

1184
00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:31,239
Speaker 4: he's not trying to stir up shit.

1185
00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:34,520
Speaker 3: He's just saying his opinion. Look, this is how I felt.

1186
00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:37,239
Speaker 3: It was like Demo's having his podcast. Now he's going

1187
00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:39,440
Speaker 3: with he's getting heat like because he's giving his opinion

1188
00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:41,480
Speaker 3: of his relationship with Darvin Hams.

1189
00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:43,080
Speaker 4: So yo, I'm just telling you how I saw he

1190
00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:44,960
Speaker 4: had a bad relationship with him. Why the hell, y'all

1191
00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:47,560
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. I'm just saying small things,

1192
00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:49,680
Speaker 4: and y'all taken out of context. But so that's what

1193
00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:51,279
Speaker 4: I love about the space. I love that players are

1194
00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:53,000
Speaker 4: able to use their power for you know, more than

1195
00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:55,840
Speaker 4: in their voices, for you know, other things outside of basketball,

1196
00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:57,080
Speaker 4: but also on the basketball.

1197
00:46:56,680 --> 00:46:59,520
Speaker 3: Court, to be handled and treated the way they should

1198
00:46:59,520 --> 00:46:59,920
Speaker 3: be treated.

1199
00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:04,319
Speaker 2: Danny one one last question and appreciate you coming on here.

1200
00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:07,920
Speaker 2: Can you just speak a little bit about because if

1201
00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:11,080
Speaker 2: I'm not mistaken, you're not done playing, like you know,

1202
00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:13,799
Speaker 2: I'm standing ready right like, tell us a little bit

1203
00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:17,160
Speaker 2: about how complicated and how like interesting that is is,

1204
00:47:17,239 --> 00:47:19,640
Speaker 2: Like you're available, but also you're making moves to be

1205
00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:21,920
Speaker 2: ready for post career. So tell us a little bit

1206
00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:22,319
Speaker 2: about that.

1207
00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:24,440
Speaker 4: I've been said, I've been lucky to be put in

1208
00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:27,839
Speaker 4: situations where people prepared me for the future and see

1209
00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:29,880
Speaker 4: the bigger picture way before it happened.

1210
00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:32,120
Speaker 3: So I've been doing this for a couple of years.

1211
00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:33,799
Speaker 4: I went to the sports catt to you because like

1212
00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:36,120
Speaker 4: people when they've done playing, it's a real shock for

1213
00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:38,520
Speaker 4: them and they're not ready for it and they don't

1214
00:47:38,520 --> 00:47:40,040
Speaker 4: know how to just they don't how to handle it.

1215
00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:42,839
Speaker 4: So as tough as it is, still not being able

1216
00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:44,359
Speaker 4: to play, watch it's hard to watch the big games

1217
00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:46,160
Speaker 4: and you're not playing data already, know you know how

1218
00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:48,600
Speaker 4: this is, knowing you could get out there like I could.

1219
00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:50,799
Speaker 4: I could literally do this so I could help a

1220
00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:52,040
Speaker 4: team I could do, you know what I'm saying. So

1221
00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:55,160
Speaker 4: it's hard to watch the game and not feel away

1222
00:47:55,239 --> 00:47:57,680
Speaker 4: or not have a bias. It said, let alone if

1223
00:47:57,680 --> 00:47:59,400
Speaker 4: you had nothing else going on. Luckily, I'm trying to

1224
00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:01,920
Speaker 4: keep busy. Keep in mind if it's do media stuff,

1225
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:04,880
Speaker 4: to do that. So you know, people talk told me earlier,

1226
00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:06,799
Speaker 4: get into this now, don't wait till later. So I

1227
00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:09,400
Speaker 4: got into that doing the sportscaster, you doing the podcast,

1228
00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:12,320
Speaker 4: doing tournament time. But in the same breath, bust of

1229
00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:14,279
Speaker 4: my ass physically, make sure I'm in the gym, you know,

1230
00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:17,520
Speaker 4: every day, and if a call does happen, I'm ready,

1231
00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:19,640
Speaker 4: you know what I saying. I'm not I'm prepared. And

1232
00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:21,120
Speaker 4: then when the team does see me, it's like, oh,

1233
00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:23,640
Speaker 4: you know, he's not just here to be a cheerleader

1234
00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:25,920
Speaker 4: or to you know what I'm saying, be a veteran

1235
00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:27,120
Speaker 4: at the end of the bench to teach us some

1236
00:48:27,160 --> 00:48:28,719
Speaker 4: things like now we can actually use this guy, you

1237
00:48:28,719 --> 00:48:30,080
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, Like we might want to keep

1238
00:48:30,120 --> 00:48:30,759
Speaker 4: him for next year.

1239
00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:31,920
Speaker 1: And so this is tough.

1240
00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:34,000
Speaker 4: It's tough when you're going through it cause I'm a

1241
00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:35,680
Speaker 4: little more old school. I'm not the type of post

1242
00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:37,800
Speaker 4: my workouts. And when you don't post it or you

1243
00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:40,080
Speaker 4: don't record it, it's like, oh, it didn't happen, or

1244
00:48:40,160 --> 00:48:42,120
Speaker 4: people don't. People forget about you quickly. You know, people

1245
00:48:42,120 --> 00:48:44,600
Speaker 4: don't know what you're doing. And I'm you know, I

1246
00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:46,279
Speaker 4: fall victim to it too. It's like, yeah, shit. When

1247
00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:47,920
Speaker 4: when John was out in the league, I'm like I've

1248
00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:49,480
Speaker 4: seen him playing. I'm like, all right, I think you

1249
00:48:49,520 --> 00:48:51,080
Speaker 4: can hoop. But I'm like, I don't know, what is it.

1250
00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:52,719
Speaker 4: You know, people, if you don't see you play on

1251
00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:55,080
Speaker 4: that level, it's like, oh, I don't know. They'll discredit

1252
00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:56,680
Speaker 4: it or he's not ready or he can't fit. And

1253
00:48:56,680 --> 00:48:58,319
Speaker 4: I'm like, I think John could play it. I think

1254
00:48:58,320 --> 00:48:59,960
Speaker 4: he definitely could. He definitely could help a team. Who

1255
00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:02,000
Speaker 4: someow I had argument some like, you know, have a

1256
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:04,799
Speaker 4: fifteen seven and seven. I'm like, nah, nah, no way.

1257
00:49:05,040 --> 00:49:07,000
Speaker 4: Then he gets on the court and he plays with clippers,

1258
00:49:07,120 --> 00:49:10,319
Speaker 4: Like shit, John could easily average fifteen seven, fifteen and seven.

1259
00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:13,360
Speaker 4: I'm saying like seven assists fifteen points just because I

1260
00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:14,799
Speaker 4: haven't seen him do it. I've seen enough for some

1261
00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:17,319
Speaker 4: of the workouts. But people said in this day and age,

1262
00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:20,279
Speaker 4: it's a tough battle between promoting yourself. I'm not one

1263
00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:23,080
Speaker 4: of those people, and showing it and recording it and

1264
00:49:23,160 --> 00:49:25,000
Speaker 4: to show you that you're ready. It's like, yo, I'm ready,

1265
00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:28,000
Speaker 4: and a lot of people won't believe it or put

1266
00:49:28,080 --> 00:49:29,880
Speaker 4: faith in you or give you a chance or opportunity

1267
00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:32,040
Speaker 4: unless they see you doing those things. And it's like

1268
00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:34,920
Speaker 4: it's a tough battle every day for me, it's like it.

1269
00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:36,600
Speaker 4: But I'm gonna keep working. I'ma keep staying ready.

1270
00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:38,320
Speaker 3: I'm gonna keep because I didn't do all this rehab

1271
00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:39,239
Speaker 3: to just fucking retire.

1272
00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:42,480
Speaker 4: I did all I tore my eclcl all that hamstring,

1273
00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:44,520
Speaker 4: and I came back in eight months.

1274
00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:46,440
Speaker 3: I didn't do all that just to be like, all right,

1275
00:49:46,520 --> 00:49:47,080
Speaker 3: call a quiz.

1276
00:49:47,160 --> 00:49:47,319
Speaker 1: Nah.

1277
00:49:47,320 --> 00:49:49,560
Speaker 4: I'm trying to get the most out of it and

1278
00:49:49,600 --> 00:49:51,680
Speaker 4: play because I can do media forever.

1279
00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:54,200
Speaker 3: I could do that to him ninety years old. I

1280
00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:56,080
Speaker 3: could basketball. You only do so at certain time.

1281
00:49:56,120 --> 00:49:57,759
Speaker 4: So I'm gonna try to play it as long as

1282
00:49:57,800 --> 00:50:00,000
Speaker 4: because I don't want to leave the court with no regrets.

1283
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:01,239
Speaker 4: When I hang them up, it's like, you know what,

1284
00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:03,719
Speaker 4: I had nothing else left to give. I gave the

1285
00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:07,040
Speaker 4: game all I got. But yes, I'm staying ready physically

1286
00:50:07,080 --> 00:50:08,960
Speaker 4: basket wise. I'm still working out, but I'm doing other

1287
00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:09,799
Speaker 4: things to keep me busy.

1288
00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:12,560
Speaker 3: Soda. It's not as tough mentally and emotionally on me.

1289
00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:15,000
Speaker 4: And I just have a little one, little one six

1290
00:50:15,080 --> 00:50:18,239
Speaker 4: seven months now, so he keeps me positive. Appreciate you, brother,

1291
00:50:18,239 --> 00:50:20,239
Speaker 4: appreciate you. So it keeps it keeps me on. It

1292
00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:23,040
Speaker 4: keeps me focusing on the positives. But I'm very much

1293
00:50:23,520 --> 00:50:25,200
Speaker 4: in shape and ready to help a team. And I

1294
00:50:25,200 --> 00:50:26,839
Speaker 4: could help a team. I can still shoot at the ball,

1295
00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:28,680
Speaker 4: I can still good corner to the corner. I can

1296
00:50:28,719 --> 00:50:30,799
Speaker 4: still play a little defense. And it's like I said,

1297
00:50:30,840 --> 00:50:32,560
Speaker 4: not many people playing great defense. It's like I'm not

1298
00:50:32,600 --> 00:50:35,200
Speaker 4: gonna be a liability out there, but I can still

1299
00:50:35,239 --> 00:50:37,160
Speaker 4: do you know, things that can help a team.

1300
00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:38,799
Speaker 3: And I'm just waiting on that call. Man.

1301
00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:40,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, you hit it right on another. You definitely got

1302
00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:42,839
Speaker 1: to stay ready, but you also got to do other

1303
00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:45,160
Speaker 1: things so you don't get frustrated. To get some stretched

1304
00:50:45,239 --> 00:50:47,400
Speaker 1: like me being able to take my kids to school,

1305
00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:49,440
Speaker 1: watch them play soccer, watch them go to boxing. Like

1306
00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:51,879
Speaker 1: that's the only thing that's keeping me saying, because how

1307
00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:53,319
Speaker 1: you say, you're watching a game, you're like, man, I

1308
00:50:53,360 --> 00:50:54,640
Speaker 1: know I can do this. I know I can help

1309
00:50:54,680 --> 00:50:56,520
Speaker 1: a team, but like you said, you're just in a

1310
00:50:56,560 --> 00:50:59,160
Speaker 1: different space sometimes where you can't really can control. And

1311
00:50:59,160 --> 00:51:00,920
Speaker 1: like for me, I'm like I post this workout. Then

1312
00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:02,520
Speaker 1: I was like, man, I'm not about to post everything

1313
00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:04,879
Speaker 1: because sometimes you post and they be like, well, you're

1314
00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:06,319
Speaker 1: not playing against nobody, or you're not.

1315
00:51:07,040 --> 00:51:09,719
Speaker 3: You're playing against this. They're gonna just credit it either way.

1316
00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:11,600
Speaker 1: And I'm like, in the summertime, you got teams that

1317
00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:13,480
Speaker 1: come down here, or it's all pros that being Miami

1318
00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:15,080
Speaker 1: aroun I'm playing. I'm like, well, this is not just

1319
00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:17,600
Speaker 1: anybody that's from the park or don't have a name.

1320
00:51:17,640 --> 00:51:20,480
Speaker 1: But how you said, you find you find that space

1321
00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:22,319
Speaker 1: where you feel like you're comfortable what's next for you,

1322
00:51:22,360 --> 00:51:24,719
Speaker 1: But you still stay ready, like you said, until you're

1323
00:51:24,719 --> 00:51:26,880
Speaker 1: ready to give it up. You know, when the time is,

1324
00:51:26,920 --> 00:51:28,279
Speaker 1: when you feel like you got some left, you're going

1325
00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:29,200
Speaker 1: to continue to work.

1326
00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:31,880
Speaker 4: It's a it's an everyday battle man, because half of

1327
00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:33,480
Speaker 4: your friends are gonna be like, yo, keep going, and

1328
00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:34,759
Speaker 4: half your friends and be like, yeah, you had a

1329
00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:35,200
Speaker 4: great career.

1330
00:51:35,880 --> 00:51:39,719
Speaker 1: I ain't try that last I'm not. Yeah, but you

1331
00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:40,200
Speaker 1: do hear that?

1332
00:51:40,360 --> 00:51:44,560
Speaker 3: You do you see other people sending you like I've

1333
00:51:44,600 --> 00:51:47,000
Speaker 3: had a great career, man, and unfortunately said I never

1334
00:51:47,040 --> 00:51:50,160
Speaker 3: was a superstar. And even superstars don't get the opportunity

1335
00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:52,239
Speaker 3: to end their career the way they want to. Carmelo

1336
00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:53,800
Speaker 3: Dwight like, there's a bunch of guys.

1337
00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:56,360
Speaker 4: It just happens abruptly, and you're seeing all these podcasts,

1338
00:51:56,360 --> 00:51:58,799
Speaker 4: the guys telling the story like, damn, I give the

1339
00:51:58,840 --> 00:52:00,759
Speaker 4: game so much, I might not be able to, you know,

1340
00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:02,799
Speaker 4: end it the way I wanted to, even if I

1341
00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:04,359
Speaker 4: did the right way. Regardless if you're a great locker

1342
00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:06,120
Speaker 4: room guy, regardless you have three champions, they don't really

1343
00:52:06,160 --> 00:52:06,600
Speaker 4: give a damn.

1344
00:52:06,719 --> 00:52:08,399
Speaker 3: What have you done for me lately? What can you do?

1345
00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:09,399
Speaker 3: They don't care.

1346
00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:14,759
Speaker 4: So me come into terms with like not being not

1347
00:52:14,760 --> 00:52:16,200
Speaker 4: saying I'm gonna be okay with it, but be able

1348
00:52:16,200 --> 00:52:17,920
Speaker 4: to handle like, all right, even though I bust my

1349
00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:20,920
Speaker 4: eyes and I don't get the call. I gave it

1350
00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:22,600
Speaker 4: my all and like, all right, I can find ways

1351
00:52:22,600 --> 00:52:25,120
Speaker 4: to adapt and adjust to it and understand, like you know,

1352
00:52:25,160 --> 00:52:28,480
Speaker 4: life is not always gonna happen the way you think

1353
00:52:28,480 --> 00:52:30,160
Speaker 4: it's or what you want. Might say, you can do

1354
00:52:30,239 --> 00:52:33,560
Speaker 4: everything right and still not get the opportunity. But how

1355
00:52:33,560 --> 00:52:34,879
Speaker 4: do you bounce back from that? What are you gonna

1356
00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:38,799
Speaker 4: do next? What is the other avenue? So yeah, I

1357
00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:41,440
Speaker 4: understand it, I get it. I don't like it. Then

1358
00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:43,360
Speaker 4: when you're old and you have injuries, people may not

1359
00:52:43,400 --> 00:52:45,880
Speaker 4: give you the opportunity. But the fact that is that

1360
00:52:45,880 --> 00:52:48,440
Speaker 4: I've seen so many other guys have their careers end

1361
00:52:48,440 --> 00:52:50,439
Speaker 4: abruptly and they're just not like Keny Martin talks about

1362
00:52:50,440 --> 00:52:52,799
Speaker 4: on Gills podcast, It's like, all right, I understand and

1363
00:52:52,840 --> 00:52:54,640
Speaker 4: the fact that I'm prepared for it allows me to

1364
00:52:54,719 --> 00:52:57,480
Speaker 4: kind of cope with it better than other people may

1365
00:52:57,520 --> 00:52:58,319
Speaker 4: be able to cope with it.

1366
00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:02,280
Speaker 2: Appreciate you. I hope you both get the call because

1367
00:53:02,280 --> 00:53:05,080
Speaker 2: we said it on on previous episodes. Is that that's

1368
00:53:05,120 --> 00:53:06,600
Speaker 2: make a difference, Like true.

1369
00:53:08,080 --> 00:53:10,560
Speaker 4: And complaining of why the game looked away so that

1370
00:53:10,600 --> 00:53:14,000
Speaker 4: somebody blowouts and you know, stupidity and mistakes is like

1371
00:53:14,040 --> 00:53:16,359
Speaker 4: that you need vets in these groups and any team.

1372
00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:20,239
Speaker 4: So yeah, man, I appreciate you, appreciate you, appreciate you, man,

1373
00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:22,680
Speaker 4: jed Man, good luck man. I can't wait to see

1374
00:53:22,680 --> 00:53:23,839
Speaker 4: you back on the floor. I know you're gonna get

1375
00:53:23,840 --> 00:53:26,919
Speaker 4: their brothers. If not, keep doing the podcast stuff, keeping

1376
00:53:26,920 --> 00:53:28,319
Speaker 4: with the kids. But I know you're gonna get back

1377
00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:29,640
Speaker 4: out there. I can't see you back on the floor.

1378
00:53:29,920 --> 00:53:32,359
Speaker 4: Appreciate you having the podcast and how much you all

1379
00:53:32,440 --> 00:53:35,120
Speaker 4: the best man, So love much, love always, and I'm

1380
00:53:35,120 --> 00:53:35,600
Speaker 4: sure i'll see you.

1381
00:53:36,360 --> 00:53:38,040
Speaker 3: Goodluck to your boys to Kentucky.

1382
00:53:38,040 --> 00:53:40,880
Speaker 1: Thank you to some big things you boys to thank.

1383
00:53:40,719 --> 00:53:44,120
Speaker 2: You all right. Check out Inside the Green Room hosted

1384
00:53:44,120 --> 00:53:47,279
Speaker 2: by Danny Green. We'll be right back on Point Game

1385
00:53:47,320 --> 00:53:57,840
Speaker 2: presented by Draft Kings. One more Sentient with Johnathan Welcome

1386
00:53:57,880 --> 00:53:59,680
Speaker 2: back to Point Game with John Wall and c J

1387
00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:02,680
Speaker 2: Toal Donald, presented by DraftKings. Now we're gonna play our

1388
00:54:02,719 --> 00:54:06,520
Speaker 2: favorite segment of every show, Bucketer Brick. And as a reminder,

1389
00:54:06,520 --> 00:54:09,080
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1390
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1394
00:54:21,840 --> 00:54:23,720
Speaker 2: you remember how to play this. But for anyone listening

1395
00:54:23,760 --> 00:54:26,080
Speaker 2: for the first time, Bucket to Brick, I'm gonna say

1396
00:54:26,080 --> 00:54:28,560
Speaker 2: a statement, And if you agree, you're gonna say Bucket.

1397
00:54:28,640 --> 00:54:30,600
Speaker 2: And if you disagree, you're gonna say Brick.

1398
00:54:30,680 --> 00:54:33,120
Speaker 1: So you ready, John, for sure? All right?

1399
00:54:33,120 --> 00:54:36,760
Speaker 2: Bucket to Brick. Okay, first one. Kentucky is currently plus

1400
00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:39,160
Speaker 2: seven hundred to make the final four, So if you

1401
00:54:39,200 --> 00:54:41,719
Speaker 2: bet one hundred dollars you could win seven hundred bucks

1402
00:54:41,719 --> 00:54:43,760
Speaker 2: if they end up winning the titles. Hopefully that happens.

1403
00:54:44,080 --> 00:54:47,600
Speaker 2: So John Bucke to Brick, Kentucky will make the final four.

1404
00:54:48,320 --> 00:54:51,200
Speaker 1: Bucket. I got him win in the final four. I

1405
00:54:51,239 --> 00:54:53,040
Speaker 1: got him winning the championship. I got him going all

1406
00:54:53,040 --> 00:54:55,480
Speaker 1: the way. I know, calgo make some adjustments for him.

1407
00:54:55,520 --> 00:54:58,279
Speaker 1: I mean, and let them do they do. If they

1408
00:54:58,320 --> 00:55:01,000
Speaker 1: lock in offenially offensively and on to making shots. They

1409
00:55:01,040 --> 00:55:03,319
Speaker 1: got all the tools for that. They just canna lock

1410
00:55:03,360 --> 00:55:06,440
Speaker 1: it on the defensive and for six games they'll be

1411
00:55:06,480 --> 00:55:09,400
Speaker 1: holding up another national championship. So I had my school

1412
00:55:09,440 --> 00:55:10,000
Speaker 1: going all the way.

1413
00:55:10,480 --> 00:55:12,760
Speaker 2: Do you like what Danny was saying like you almost

1414
00:55:12,800 --> 00:55:14,520
Speaker 2: gotta lose one before seeking like.

1415
00:55:14,760 --> 00:55:17,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, for the streak, we wanted to win. The SEC

1416
00:55:17,120 --> 00:55:21,040
Speaker 1: champions were so bad. But it's funny because the first

1417
00:55:21,160 --> 00:55:24,799
Speaker 1: game when we play Alabama, we got we were down

1418
00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:27,840
Speaker 1: like twenty early on before the tournament started, colle like, man,

1419
00:55:28,200 --> 00:55:30,120
Speaker 1: I don't really care about this tournament. Ready on focused

1420
00:55:30,120 --> 00:55:31,040
Speaker 1: for the next one, you know what I mean. So

1421
00:55:31,360 --> 00:55:32,960
Speaker 1: we kind of went in with a mind set like

1422
00:55:32,960 --> 00:55:34,600
Speaker 1: we was like, we was like, man, hell no, we're

1423
00:55:34,600 --> 00:55:37,160
Speaker 1: trying to win. And we went up into the tournament

1424
00:55:37,239 --> 00:55:38,880
Speaker 1: not saying like he wants us to lose on purpose,

1425
00:55:38,880 --> 00:55:40,680
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I think, you know, like

1426
00:55:40,760 --> 00:55:43,680
Speaker 1: everybody wants to win SEC Championship regularly. Everybody want to

1427
00:55:43,680 --> 00:55:45,279
Speaker 1: win every game became, you know what I mean. And

1428
00:55:45,360 --> 00:55:47,080
Speaker 1: it was in Nashville. You know a lot of Kentucky

1429
00:55:47,120 --> 00:55:49,440
Speaker 1: fans came. But I think like when we won that game,

1430
00:55:49,480 --> 00:55:51,239
Speaker 1: like we would have lost Missispi State championship. I think

1431
00:55:51,239 --> 00:55:53,239
Speaker 1: it would have gave us another type of hunger. But

1432
00:55:53,320 --> 00:55:54,360
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, we left out on the

1433
00:55:54,440 --> 00:55:56,239
Speaker 1: high horse and not saying that's the reason why we lost.

1434
00:55:56,280 --> 00:55:58,080
Speaker 1: I mean West Virginia was a better team. That didn't

1435
00:55:58,080 --> 00:56:00,800
Speaker 1: beat us, but we still came out with that mindset.

1436
00:56:00,840 --> 00:56:03,400
Speaker 1: We was dominating every game. We played like we dominated everybody.

1437
00:56:03,680 --> 00:56:05,279
Speaker 1: We just fell short to teen that was better than

1438
00:56:05,360 --> 00:56:06,960
Speaker 1: us that day. They made shots that we didn't make,

1439
00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:09,160
Speaker 1: and they was better than us. But we felt like,

1440
00:56:09,320 --> 00:56:12,080
Speaker 1: I mean, Todanny, he might have that experience because he's

1441
00:56:12,120 --> 00:56:13,840
Speaker 1: been there before. That was our first year, in my

1442
00:56:13,920 --> 00:56:15,920
Speaker 1: only year. I just wanted to win the whole thing.

1443
00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:18,879
Speaker 2: So moving on staying in college. Okay, So a few

1444
00:56:18,880 --> 00:56:23,120
Speaker 2: teams didn't make the NCAA attorney and they've opted out

1445
00:56:23,160 --> 00:56:26,680
Speaker 2: of the NIT, like Saint John Syracus, Oklahoma and Pittsburgh.

1446
00:56:26,760 --> 00:56:30,200
Speaker 2: So Bucketer Brick opting out of the NIT is a

1447
00:56:30,239 --> 00:56:30,920
Speaker 2: good call.

1448
00:56:31,480 --> 00:56:34,120
Speaker 1: I say brick. For me, I would say brick because

1449
00:56:34,920 --> 00:56:37,800
Speaker 1: I feel like you still it's represent your school. You

1450
00:56:37,840 --> 00:56:39,040
Speaker 1: still just want to go there and compete, you know

1451
00:56:39,080 --> 00:56:41,560
Speaker 1: what I mean? Like even though you fall short of

1452
00:56:42,800 --> 00:56:44,560
Speaker 1: I say, if you want a team that falls short

1453
00:56:44,600 --> 00:56:46,160
Speaker 1: of making the top six teams, you know, I mean,

1454
00:56:46,200 --> 00:56:47,880
Speaker 1: now you got to be seventy nineteen and playing and

1455
00:56:47,880 --> 00:56:50,080
Speaker 1: play in tournament, so you basically want to play the

1456
00:56:50,080 --> 00:56:51,640
Speaker 1: play in tournament. But I guess it's a little different

1457
00:56:51,640 --> 00:56:53,520
Speaker 1: because if you make it through the playing tournament, you

1458
00:56:53,560 --> 00:56:56,040
Speaker 1: get a chance to still win NBA Championship, you know,

1459
00:56:56,040 --> 00:56:58,400
Speaker 1: I mean, but I think just competing, Like some of

1460
00:56:58,440 --> 00:57:00,480
Speaker 1: those guys might want to compete, might still want to

1461
00:57:00,480 --> 00:57:01,560
Speaker 1: play at a high level, you know. I mean, I

1462
00:57:01,560 --> 00:57:02,719
Speaker 1: know they're not probably used to have been in the

1463
00:57:02,800 --> 00:57:05,560
Speaker 1: n I t but it's still a way you can

1464
00:57:05,600 --> 00:57:07,080
Speaker 1: still play and compete at high level. And some of

1465
00:57:07,080 --> 00:57:09,080
Speaker 1: those guys might be seniors, Like what are those seniors?

1466
00:57:09,080 --> 00:57:11,480
Speaker 1: Don't get any say so? And they last game could

1467
00:57:11,520 --> 00:57:12,959
Speaker 1: have ended how it ended.

1468
00:57:13,160 --> 00:57:15,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, so that's a brick, So you gotta play.

1469
00:57:15,960 --> 00:57:17,439
Speaker 2: I mean, like a lot of these guys, they also

1470
00:57:17,480 --> 00:57:19,280
Speaker 2: want to be showcasing their game still, you know, might

1471
00:57:19,320 --> 00:57:19,880
Speaker 2: be getting.

1472
00:57:19,680 --> 00:57:21,320
Speaker 1: Ready for it. Yeah, And like you said, some of

1473
00:57:21,360 --> 00:57:24,160
Speaker 1: those guys still can showcase their talent and still scouts

1474
00:57:24,200 --> 00:57:25,760
Speaker 1: might still go watching them and see and see how

1475
00:57:25,800 --> 00:57:26,280
Speaker 1: they're doing.

1476
00:57:26,560 --> 00:57:29,000
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, Moving on to the women's game. Caitlyn

1477
00:57:29,040 --> 00:57:31,120
Speaker 2: Clark and Iowa. They got that number one seed in

1478
00:57:31,160 --> 00:57:34,520
Speaker 2: the women's tournament, so bucker to brick, Iowa will win

1479
00:57:34,600 --> 00:57:40,200
Speaker 2: the NCAA Women's Tournament this season. A lot of good

1480
00:57:40,200 --> 00:57:41,480
Speaker 2: teams and a lot of good players.

1481
00:57:44,400 --> 00:57:46,280
Speaker 1: I say both. I won't say brick though, because I

1482
00:57:46,320 --> 00:57:47,520
Speaker 1: never know. You never know, you know what I mean.

1483
00:57:47,600 --> 00:57:50,640
Speaker 1: Kaitlyn Clark is super, super special. She's a dope talent.

1484
00:57:51,400 --> 00:57:53,560
Speaker 1: You still got Don Staley in South Carolina, you know

1485
00:57:53,600 --> 00:57:55,440
Speaker 1: what I mean. You know you got Yukon's coming up,

1486
00:57:55,680 --> 00:57:59,160
Speaker 1: you still have lsu usc is playing well. It's a

1487
00:57:59,200 --> 00:58:01,960
Speaker 1: lot of great teams that South there, but she's one

1488
00:58:02,000 --> 00:58:03,560
Speaker 1: of those players that she can go on to run

1489
00:58:03,600 --> 00:58:06,040
Speaker 1: like Kimba Walker and Shabbaz Naprin them did that one

1490
00:58:06,080 --> 00:58:08,320
Speaker 1: year and go win it all. So I can't really

1491
00:58:08,400 --> 00:58:10,600
Speaker 1: say no. It depends on who they would match up against.

1492
00:58:10,600 --> 00:58:11,760
Speaker 1: But I think she's gonna put on the heck of

1493
00:58:11,800 --> 00:58:14,440
Speaker 1: a tournament run and she might get close to doing

1494
00:58:14,440 --> 00:58:15,960
Speaker 1: what she did last year or not even Okay.

1495
00:58:15,840 --> 00:58:17,479
Speaker 2: You can't say no, But do you have a team

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Speaker 2: maybe that you think if you were had to call

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Speaker 2: it right now, who would win the women's turney or

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Speaker 2: who your favorite?

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Speaker 1: Pattic Carl I'm saying South Carolina for me, Like I mean,

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Speaker 1: just being so dominant two years in a row, undefeated

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Speaker 1: in the regular season. I just didn't have a complete team.

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Speaker 1: Even though they got a young team, they got a

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Speaker 1: lot of people that came in as young. But I

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Speaker 1: think just the way Don Stanley had them playing, the

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Speaker 1: way they believe in themselves in the day. When a

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Speaker 1: team like that, I think the only team, only people

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Speaker 1: that can beat them is they slves.

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Speaker 2: Okay, final, Bucketer Brick, your buddy Dame Lillard. He had

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Speaker 2: a big game against the Suns. So Bucketer Brick, Dame

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Speaker 2: is the most clutch player in the NBA right now.

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Speaker 1: Just this season or just all like since he's.

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Speaker 2: I would say, like right right right now this season

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Speaker 2: or yeah, like currently most clutch this season.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I would say. I would say Brick

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Speaker 1: because he hasn't had to do it as much as

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Speaker 1: he did. Importantly for me, I think the most clutch

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Speaker 1: guy I would say right now will probably be Shay.

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Speaker 1: I mean, because they've been in so many close games.

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Speaker 1: But if you want to say since he's been in

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Speaker 1: the league, I'm damn sure seeing Damian Lillard so many

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Speaker 1: clutch shots and big moments and he lives for those moments.

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Speaker 1: But you know what I mean, that's what Dame Dalla do.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely one of the top three all right, John,

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Speaker 2: that's been another episode of Point Game. How you feeling.

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Speaker 1: I feel great, man, Like I said, I'm excited about

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Speaker 1: where a Point Game is going. It's great to get

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Speaker 1: up here every week. But you just talk basketball, just

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Speaker 1: talk anything that's going on in the world life. Just

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Speaker 1: picking people's brains and getting different hosts up here and

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Speaker 1: I mean, I went on the OG show, I shout

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Speaker 1: out to Point Game part you know what I mean

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Speaker 1: to get us some more people to pay attention to

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Speaker 1: I think we just gonna continue to get better and better.

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