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Speaker 1: Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio. I hope you're having

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Speaker 1: a great day. It's a Friday. It's a football Friday.

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Speaker 1: It's a basketball Friday. NBA games litter throughout arenas. Obviously

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Speaker 1: a lot of the talk of the gambling scandal, which

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Speaker 1: is taken over sports talk. It is also a World

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Speaker 1: Series Friday. A World Series Friday. Check that one out. Huh.

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Speaker 1: It's pretty good, pretty good. Yeah, I'm excited. Yeah, I'm

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Speaker 1: excited too. Hey, I'm I'm fired up too. I mean,

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Speaker 1: not as fired up as as Jace do is, maybe

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Speaker 1: We have a really good show. Obviously, got some picks

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Speaker 1: for you. The Sunday night game is going to be outstanding.

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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgerson and I do I will share with you

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Speaker 1: some of the kind of sentiment in Green Bay, Wisconsin.

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Speaker 1: Some things are kind of working out in Aaron's favor

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Speaker 1: that I I mean that are not his doing. And

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Speaker 1: you can hear by the things he Aaron is saying

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Speaker 1: that he's either reached a place of peace with the

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Speaker 1: Green Bay Packers or he's trying this is a peace offering.

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Speaker 1: So we'll get you prepped for that. Aaron Glenn, we

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Speaker 1: still don't know about who his quarterback is. That actually

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Speaker 1: tells you who his quarterback is. If Aaron Glenn hasn't

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Speaker 1: And we got the gambler for you. We got the

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Speaker 1: gambler for you. Let me start with the World Series

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Speaker 1: because there was some news that came out a couple

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Speaker 1: hours ago, which I think is one classic baseball and

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Speaker 1: two classic to these types of of phenomenal matchups. Right

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Speaker 1: the teams are separated by one game in terms of

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Speaker 1: what they did in the regular season. Right then, the

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Speaker 1: Blue Jays win one game more than than the Dodgers.

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Speaker 1: That's why they have home field. So these are two

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Speaker 1: translate to postseason. Both are teams that have spent a

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Speaker 1: lot of money. The Dodgers more money. But you spend

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Speaker 1: say you're one of the have nots and the haves

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Speaker 1: and have nots. This is a should be a phenomenal series, right.

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Speaker 1: The Dodgers are going to throw out a lefteed tonight,

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Speaker 1: who's pitched in a World series, pitched well, was unbelievable

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Speaker 1: when Blake Snell pitched the eight scoreless, basically twenty four up,

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Speaker 1: nearly spit up all over themselves. That's where this news

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Speaker 1: and maybe I need to ask Jay stew about it.

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Speaker 1: We'll get to him in a second. Alex Vacilla is

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Speaker 1: a left handed reliever. He's the guy. He sweats a lot.

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Speaker 1: He's Vessia, sorry, Alex Vesia is. He's a big sweater

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Speaker 1: like he's a guy that's up there as nervous as

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna sit here and challenge Jason Stewart. I'm

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Speaker 1: don't know everything about the Dodgers' bullpen and what's failed

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Speaker 1: and that it was almost a condolence's type of statement

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Speaker 1: It's not like he's going to take a couple of

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Speaker 1: He's not pitching. And I think back to when the

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Speaker 1: Yes they still have Mookie Betts, Yes they still have

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Speaker 1: And I'm not gonna say that's ominous or whatever, but

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Speaker 1: why people don't like to talk about luck. We always

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Speaker 1: wish people good luck before for little kids going to

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Speaker 1: those are the type of things that can tip series

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Speaker 1: sitting here accusing him of faking in or having something negative. No,

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Speaker 1: When you saw that and saw that news, as much

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Speaker 1: to their bullpen, how much does that affect your faith

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Speaker 2: I think it doesn't impact it. I don't think we're

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Speaker 2: gonna win the series. But I said, or does not? Hello?

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Speaker 1: You say it does or does not?

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Speaker 2: It does impact the series? Yep?

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Speaker 1: Does? Okay, go ahead. I'm sorry you said that. The

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Speaker 2: Correct, but I don't think I think they'll lose it worse. Now.

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Speaker 2: I just read a piece on Alex a month ago.

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Speaker 2: This is I think he was like an eighteenth or

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Speaker 2: and then he made the roster, and he's been on

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Speaker 2: the Dodgers the last five years. His career postseason numbers,

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Speaker 2: He's done good this postseason. You're right, he's like the

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Speaker 2: the last two World Series that we've won, we've done

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Speaker 2: said before the postseason, the Dodgers need to kind of

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Speaker 2: That's been more hits than missus. They luckily haven't even

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Speaker 2: But this is a big lot. Answer your question, short

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Speaker 1: getting ready for a great weekend celebrated with some sports.

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Speaker 1: Fall is here mid October, Green Bay, Wisconsin. We're waiting

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Speaker 1: That feels like a Thursday night thing, not a Sunday

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Speaker 5: Well, they both should be, but that's not how things

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Speaker 5: as much. Again, they just need a gold stripe on

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Speaker 5: The brown pants, whatever they've got, whatever pattern that is

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Speaker 5: I just I understand not forgetting the past, but this

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Speaker 5: I think in time that he'll be welcome back, just

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Speaker 1: You know, there is another side to it being in Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 1: it's really interesting on how nobody mentions the Bubby Bridsters

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Speaker 1: We have Jordan Love. We love Jordan Love. Right, their

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Speaker 1: As well. Some of the Aaron Rodgers recent stuff wears

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Speaker 2: Let's be clear, I love my job. I don't want

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Speaker 1: I actually agree with you on all the other stuff he's.

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Speaker 5: I think he's been in the forefronts of of everything.

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Speaker 5: I don't think gonna miss anything. I don't think I

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Speaker 5: think we've almost overcovered Aaron Rodgers at times.

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Speaker 1: I just think in regards to what Jason said, which

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Speaker 1: is a quarterback who's an MVP of the league that's

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Speaker 1: willing to actually speak their mind in this world of

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Speaker 1: the cliches. Jason has told everybody on air off air

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Speaker 1: that on his tombstone, he wants he searched for the

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Speaker 1: opposite of whatever BS is and that's why he likes

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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers. Right. My point is that sounds great that

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Speaker 1: he's the one guy that's not full of it, except

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Speaker 1: for in the one time when he had a chance

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Speaker 1: to stand up for something that he purports to believe in,

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Speaker 1: he did not stand up for the thing he poor

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Speaker 1: ports to believe in. Instead, he was full of it.

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Speaker 1: There's the rub. I still want to Aaron Rodgers to win.

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Speaker 1: I just want to ar Rodgers to win because anybody

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Speaker 1: who's ever left somewhere wants to beat the place they left,

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Speaker 1: even if the other place didn't do them wrong. Right,

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Speaker 1: Like I got in trouble at Notre Dame. I almost

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Speaker 1: went to Marquette just because they played Notre Dame every year.

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Speaker 1: Why Because I'm just a compet jerked that way, and

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Speaker 1: I want to beat the team that I had to leave,

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Speaker 1: right Like when you're when you leave ESPN to being

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Speaker 1: there for a decade like I want to. I like

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Speaker 1: mopping the floor with them and the downfall of their

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Speaker 1: radio network and the rise of ours. Great. They did

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Speaker 1: nothing wrong. They offered me a five year contract. I

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Speaker 1: walked away. It's fine, good people. There doesn't change for

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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers. I don't think he was in the right.

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Speaker 1: I don't think he was crazily in the wrong. Think

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Speaker 1: he overreacted to them drafting a quarterback. But whatever, just

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Speaker 1: the way my mentality works, Like yeah, I'd kind of

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Speaker 1: like him. Stick it to the man if you will,

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Speaker 1: even if all told like the Packers win. Think the

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Speaker 1: Packers could be a super Bowl team. At least they

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Speaker 1: look like it early in the season.

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Speaker 1: It's the Doug Gottlieb Show Fox Sports Radio. So Aaron

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Speaker 1: Glenn continues to dominate the New York headlines, and it's

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Speaker 1: it's about his handling of what seems to be kind

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Speaker 1: of reasonable questions. He has it named a starting quarterback

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Speaker 1: for this weekend's game. The Jets are winless. Their owner

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Speaker 1: Woody Johnson came out and said he completely supports the coach.

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Speaker 1: If they just had a quarterback, they could just complete

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Speaker 1: a pass. That's what he actually said. Here's the Jets

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Speaker 1: head coach Aaron Glenn this morning with the reporters when

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Speaker 1: he was asked about who will be his starting quarterback

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Speaker 1: this week?

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Speaker 7: Did it was a game today?

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Speaker 6: He is limited all right today? And he is questionable.

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Speaker 6: And I like the way those guys are trended.

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Speaker 7: So are you able to tell us who?

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Speaker 4: I cannot tell you that.

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Speaker 9: But is it because you don't want That's exactly its

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Speaker 9: situational question.

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Speaker 7: Isn't that potentially.

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Speaker 6: That's exactly why I'm not telling you because.

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Speaker 4: I don't want to understand that.

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Speaker 7: But I mean, is it partly because of the injuries?

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Speaker 6: Exactly why I'm saying it because I don't want to.

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Speaker 6: I don't know how many time I got to answer

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Speaker 6: you that it's not going to change yours.

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Speaker 7: Who quart is?

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Speaker 4: That's gonna be between man and players.

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Speaker 1: I don't understand this, this tactic. I do understand the

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Speaker 1: not sharing personal information or in house information with the team,

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Speaker 1: I mean with with reporters like you. Don't have to.

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Speaker 1: His health, We don't have to, but just the defiance

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Speaker 1: of I don't want to, so I'm not going to.

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Speaker 1: Just so we're aware, there is a moment in which

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Speaker 1: he has to name a starter, and he will name

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Speaker 1: a starter. It won't be a game time decision because

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Speaker 1: it's not really the way it's supposed to work. And

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Speaker 1: at some point he's going to get fined by the

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Speaker 1: NFL because the gamblers, the fantasy football players need to

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Speaker 1: know who's starting. It should matter nobody has if you have.

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Speaker 1: If you have either of those two in your fantasy

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Speaker 1: football team, your fantasy football team is not doing well.

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Speaker 1: But it can't affect the betting lines over unders and

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Speaker 1: of course a lot of other prop bets. Let's just

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Speaker 1: cut to brass tacks. If if Justin Fields was their starter,

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Speaker 1: and there was no question, he would answer it as such.

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Speaker 1: It's no different than if you've been dating a woman

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Speaker 1: for like a year and you're an adult and somebody goes, hey,

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Speaker 1: she the one, You're like, yeah, maybe, then she's not right,

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Speaker 1: Then she's not. If she's the one, you're like, yeah, like,

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Speaker 1: well are you guys gonna remember? Well, you know, she's

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Speaker 1: still she's you know, she's getting a master's or she's

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Speaker 1: she's got her kids and we want to wait said

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Speaker 1: timing's not right whatever, but yeah, I mean what yeah, well,

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Speaker 1: I mean we've been dating a year now, like we

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Speaker 1: kind of you either know you don't know. And right

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Speaker 1: now everyone knows that the Jets are going to be

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Speaker 1: in the quarterback market next year in the offseason, just

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Speaker 1: like hey, who said that? Oh that was this guy,

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Speaker 1: That was this guy. It's two years in a row

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Speaker 1: where I could tell you that Russell Wilson Justin Fields

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Speaker 1: at the end of the season, and those respective teams

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Speaker 1: would be looking for another quarterback at latest at the

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Speaker 2: Second and ten Herbert to throw takes a shot to

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Speaker 1: Chargers twenty seven yards. Lad mccaucky, the Chargers, We're going

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Speaker 1: to win thirty seven to ten the jostline for Justin

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Speaker 1: Herbert did have a pick eighteen of twenty five three touchdowns,

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Speaker 1: one reception. Kamani Vidal ends up with unbelievable night for

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Speaker 1: a guy who wasn't even in the conversation. Right with

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Speaker 1: the Chargers start of the year three twenty three rushes

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Speaker 1: one hundred and seventeen yards and Lad McConkey h six catches,

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Speaker 1: ten targets. It seemed like he was there. It seemed

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Speaker 1: like he was there. Cooper Rush, That's what we seemed like,

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Speaker 1: like just always open, always open, Cooper Cup. Did I

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Speaker 1: think the the rushes and the flags and the cups,

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Speaker 1: I'm getting my Cooper's, I'm getting my Cooper's confused by

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Speaker 1: er you are a uniform police. There was one notable

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Speaker 1: change to the charger, the charger navies and I did

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Speaker 1: like those evers in the charger Navy uniforms. Did you

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Speaker 1: like the number on the helmet.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I just thought that the outline on that helmet

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Speaker 5: without having the numbers outlined, would have looked a lot better.

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Speaker 5: It's not as noticeable on the white helmet that the

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Speaker 5: numbers aren't outlined, but it did. I did notice it

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Speaker 5: on the Navy So the lightning bolt has an outline

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Speaker 5: to it, but the numbers didn't. And that's what messed

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Speaker 5: with me a little bit.

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Speaker 1: It's Doug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Portraity. Mark Dominic

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Speaker 1: joins us as he joins us every week here on

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Speaker 1: the show. Here's a guy spent his entire professional career

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Speaker 1: from scouting working his way up to the front office

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Speaker 1: as general manager of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. And look,

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Speaker 1: I know that the kid is hurt, but I think

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Speaker 1: generally most people have been underwhelmed by JJ McCarthy. And

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Speaker 1: then you know, Carson Wentz is a backup, and now's

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Speaker 1: the back for a reason playing hurt last night. But

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Speaker 1: I can't help but think Minnesota, they chose poorly. Right,

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Speaker 1: you had Sam Donald, you had even before you had

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Speaker 1: Sam Donald, Right, you had h Why am I Why

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Speaker 1: am I blaying? Oh? Kirk Cousins, Kirk Cousins and now

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Speaker 1: you have JJ McCarthy who can't stay healthy and isn't great.

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Speaker 1: Did they hurt themselves trying to go to the rookie

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Speaker 1: quarterback or the second year quarterback in his rookie year.

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Speaker 8: Well, I mean, obviously everything's unfortunate. I don't feel quite

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Speaker 8: as distraught over JJ McCarthy yet. I know the numbers

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Speaker 8: aren't great, and I know it's really been the one

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Speaker 8: quarter that's kind of caught people's attention. But I do

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Speaker 8: think of a guy that's only thrown just over forty

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Speaker 8: passes in the NFL in his career, there's a lot

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Speaker 8: of room for development still, and so you know, I

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Speaker 8: still hold out the hope or the belief that I

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Speaker 8: think JJ can be a good and starting quarterback in

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Speaker 8: the Nation Foot League and that the Vikings will will

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Speaker 8: be on the right side of history on this. I'm

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Speaker 8: going to stay on that right now, at least, Doug.

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Speaker 8: But I I, you know, it's it's amazing because the

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Speaker 8: other guy that you said, Carson Wentz, used to, you know,

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Speaker 8: be mister popular too, and it's just never quite found

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Speaker 8: that right home for him either. And you look at

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Speaker 8: this Minnesota team and although they're you know, three and four,

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Speaker 8: or it'll be interesting to get JJ back next week

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Speaker 8: and see what they can do going forward, just because

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Speaker 8: I think when you look at them as a as

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Speaker 8: a team, and you certainly you think about the hopes

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Speaker 8: of the playoffs and what they had last year. They've

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Speaker 8: got a couple of games coming up here in Detroit

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Speaker 8: and Baltimore the next two weeks that are really going

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Speaker 8: to tell us a lot about JJ, but also tell

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Speaker 8: us for the season is going to end up.

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Speaker 1: I want to play for you something. This is earlier today,

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Speaker 1: So Aaron Glenn has been doing this thing about not

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Speaker 1: naming a starter Scott Tad Taylor, who's come back from injury.

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Speaker 1: Scott justin fields where I don't know if you heard

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Speaker 1: the sound Woody Johnson said if we could just complete

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Speaker 1: a pass right like wow, you know that's not what

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Speaker 1: you want to say about a quarterback you gave two

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Speaker 1: years guaranteed to. But take a listen to Aaron Glenn

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Speaker 1: earlier today. I want to get your thoughts on this.

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Speaker 7: If it was a.

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Speaker 6: Game today, he is limited all right today, and he

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Speaker 6: is questionable and I like the way those guys are trended.

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Speaker 9: So are you able to tell us who's gonna I

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Speaker 9: cannot tell you that.

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Speaker 7: But is it because you don't watch?

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Speaker 9: Because that's exactly its situation questions that answer this.

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Speaker 6: Potentially, that's exactly why I'm not telling you because I.

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Speaker 4: Don't want to.

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Speaker 7: But I understand that. But I mean it, is it

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Speaker 7: partly because the injuries?

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Speaker 6: Exactly why I'm saying it because I don't want to.

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Speaker 4: I don't know how many times I got to answer

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Speaker 4: you that it's not going to change. You do quer

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Speaker 4: that's going to be between man players.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I get that he has his owner's support

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Speaker 1: as of now. I don't understand the why to be

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Speaker 1: that way towards the New York media, of all media,

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Speaker 1: is that you don't want to antagonize for no apparent

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Speaker 1: reason when you haven't won a game. The New York

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Speaker 1: media would be one of them. What are your thoughts though,

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Speaker 1: as a former general manager when you hear that back

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Speaker 1: and forth?

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Speaker 8: Well, I mean, I do I understand where the coach

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Speaker 8: is coming from and banged up or not? You know,

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Speaker 8: trying to figure out exactly what the answer is. I don't.

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Speaker 8: I don't blame the coach. I don't have as big

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Speaker 8: a problem with this. I do unders Daniel oh and seven.

647
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Speaker 8: And the truth is nothing looks really great. I mean,

648
00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:06,359
Speaker 8: the Buys going to make the season seem even longer

649
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Speaker 8: after they play the Bengals this week. And so I

650
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Speaker 8: think the most important thing, like you said, is and

651
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Speaker 8: I think what he will stay with Aaron Glenn as

652
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:18,239
Speaker 8: the head coach, don't I don't think Aaron Glenn. I

653
00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:20,400
Speaker 8: wouldn't move on from him this quickly, even if a

654
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Speaker 8: one and done. And we've sadly seen that too many

655
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Speaker 8: times in the National Football League. If I'm going to

656
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:28,640
Speaker 8: give Aaron Glenn any you know, punishment, it's for Justin Fields, Doug.

657
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Speaker 8: You and I talked about it many times. And you know,

658
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Speaker 8: if you're surprised that Justin Fields isn't a great starter,

659
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Speaker 8: it's been shame on you. I mean that's I mean,

660
00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:41,040
Speaker 8: he's he's had opportunities, he's flashed in moments, but he's

661
00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:43,759
Speaker 8: never shown consistency to expect him to suddenly like now

662
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Speaker 8: I'm going to be good. And in the addition, when

663
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Speaker 8: you look at the Jets and the revolving door on

664
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Speaker 8: the offensive line, some of that's you know, Justin Fields

665
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Speaker 8: in terms of the way he plays, but some of

666
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Speaker 8: it's you know, Tyro Daylor has been sacked almost ten

667
00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:58,279
Speaker 8: times in less than seventy attempts, So that offensive line

668
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Speaker 8: is a disaster. It's just anothery've's got some resources dedicated

669
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Speaker 8: to it. I think some of those guys are coming around,

670
00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:06,520
Speaker 8: but it's just bad. And I know that you're throwing

671
00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:07,960
Speaker 8: a little more gas in on the fire. But I

672
00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:12,480
Speaker 8: think Aaron's probably behind the scenes gaining some traction with

673
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Speaker 8: the team that he thinks will be there long term.

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Speaker 1: Mark Dominic our guests here on the Doug Gottlieb Show

675
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Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Radio. I want to get to Aaron

676
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Speaker 1: Rodgers because he's taken on his former team and that's

677
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Speaker 1: gonna be a story that dominates the weekend. But I

678
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Speaker 1: want to ask you about Jordan Love before that, the

679
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:32,920
Speaker 1: up and down in terms of the perception of Jordan

680
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:35,879
Speaker 1: Love right where you go back a couple of years

681
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:38,879
Speaker 1: ago and you know it wasn't gonna be the fifth

682
00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:40,800
Speaker 1: year option, it was going to be a little money.

683
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Speaker 1: Then he comes back, plays well, they give him a

684
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Speaker 1: gigantic extension. He's been good. But I guess my question

685
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Speaker 1: to you is, as a guy who's evaluated that position

686
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:57,359
Speaker 1: for a living for twenty five years, is he like

687
00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:01,080
Speaker 1: now we have enough to go on. What do you

688
00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:02,960
Speaker 1: think of Jordan Love and how good he actually is.

689
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Speaker 8: Yeah, I've been I've been on the board with Jordan

690
00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:09,000
Speaker 8: Love for a while and as we've kind of talked

691
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Speaker 8: to Jordan, uh, you know, I've been a buyer and

692
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Speaker 8: a believer and I still am. I just I like

693
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Speaker 8: the way he plays the game. I like his his

694
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:20,520
Speaker 8: decision making. He's clearly playing well now. And to think

695
00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:23,560
Speaker 8: of all that with a Matthew Golden that's really not

696
00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:26,800
Speaker 8: producing at all in their assistant right, He's he's barely

697
00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:30,960
Speaker 8: he's third or fourth on the team and receptions and

698
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Speaker 8: Dobbs is the one that really kind of stepped up

699
00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:34,960
Speaker 8: a little bit. I just I think the offensive line

700
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Speaker 8: is very good there. That's a big key to its

701
00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:38,520
Speaker 8: same thing I've talked about the Colton while the culture

702
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Speaker 8: being successful, the offensive line. But Jordan Love as a

703
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Speaker 8: quarterback and competitor I'm a fan of and I know

704
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Speaker 8: that he's had a little bit of a roller coaster,

705
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Speaker 8: but I've stayed on the track with this one. I

706
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Speaker 8: just felt like once he's shown me that he can,

707
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Speaker 8: you know, dial in which he has been able to

708
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:55,960
Speaker 8: do and make plays all of the field with his

709
00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:58,160
Speaker 8: arm talent, let alone just being a solid scrambler and

710
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Speaker 8: runner with the football. I don't see the downside in

711
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Speaker 8: Jordan Love. I think he's good enough to win you

712
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Speaker 8: a Super Bowl. I think he's that good of a quarterback.

713
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Speaker 8: And I think the surrounding cast has stepped up a

714
00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:10,920
Speaker 8: little bit in Tucker Craft. You know, I thought that

715
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:12,880
Speaker 8: maybe Luke Musgrave would have a bigger role, but in

716
00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:14,839
Speaker 8: the running game he is. And that's why they're having

717
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:17,040
Speaker 8: such success, you know, in the red zone and kind

718
00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:19,160
Speaker 8: of the ball in with Jacobs.

719
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Speaker 1: The Colts have the Titans this week, which you got

720
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Speaker 1: to feel pretty good about, right then they got the

721
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Speaker 1: Steelers on the road, but the Steels will be coming

722
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Speaker 1: off what a game they're going all in on. Then

723
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Speaker 1: the Falcons at home, then a bye week. They're at

724
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Speaker 1: six and one. I watched him against the Chargers, and

725
00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:38,919
Speaker 1: I now, I thought they were pretty good. I thought

726
00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:43,799
Speaker 1: they were really well coached, especially obviously offensively. But I mean, like, look,

727
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Speaker 1: I look at those wins that they have this year,

728
00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:47,520
Speaker 1: and with the exception of the Chargers, which is a

729
00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:52,040
Speaker 1: big win, Cardinals, Eh, Raiders not particularly good, Titans fired

730
00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:54,759
Speaker 1: their coach, Broncos pretty good, but it was early is

731
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Speaker 1: one point. And the Dolphins, who stink right, stink? So

732
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Speaker 1: how colt in your mind?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I think they're good, but I think it's one

734
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Speaker 8: of those ones where they might end up with a

735
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Speaker 8: two seed or a three seed. You know, when you

736
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Speaker 8: look at their schedule, They've got Jacksonville still. Twice you

737
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Speaker 8: talked about the Titans Atlanta, the Texans that have to

738
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Speaker 8: find their way. They don't see the Texans yet, so

739
00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:20,400
Speaker 8: there's more wins in here. But I think it's going

740
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Speaker 8: to be a two or three seed in the AFC,

741
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Speaker 8: and I think they'll be one and done. I think

742
00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:27,279
Speaker 8: they're a good football team. I think you bring up

743
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Speaker 8: a great point, and I think that's real is that

744
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Speaker 8: you know, we'll see as they play the Kansas City Chiefs,

745
00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:35,000
Speaker 8: when they play the San Francisco forty nine ers how

746
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Speaker 8: good they are. But they're really not going to be

747
00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:39,520
Speaker 8: heavily tested until they get to the postseason, and then

748
00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:41,759
Speaker 8: it's just a matter of, you know, where's their health

749
00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:44,560
Speaker 8: and everything, and how's Jonathan Taylor doing. But I think

750
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Speaker 8: they're a good football team. I think they're deserving to

751
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:48,040
Speaker 8: be in first place. When you put you know, almost

752
00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:50,160
Speaker 8: forty points or thirty five points a game on the board,

753
00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:52,920
Speaker 8: you deserve to be where you are in terms of

754
00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:55,400
Speaker 8: the standings. But you know, I think every Colts fan

755
00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:57,879
Speaker 8: would say, hey, look, this is much that I anticipated,

756
00:40:57,880 --> 00:41:00,000
Speaker 8: but will also have holding their breath in the postseason

757
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:02,000
Speaker 8: and going which team will show up? Is it going

758
00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:03,560
Speaker 8: to be the one that's you know, played well all

759
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:05,880
Speaker 8: season long but has beaten to your point to the

760
00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:08,359
Speaker 8: Tennessee Titans, or is it the one that showed up

761
00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:11,520
Speaker 8: and beat the Denver Broncos. We too, I'm leaning towards

762
00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:13,400
Speaker 8: you know, they're going to make the postseason, but I

763
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:14,359
Speaker 8: don't see a run here.

764
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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers is going to take it on his former team.

765
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Speaker 1: He's looked more and more comfortable as the year's gone on.

766
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:24,040
Speaker 1: But last time we saw him with Stursday Night Football,

767
00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:26,960
Speaker 1: he wasn't great, yelled at some of his dudes. Defense

768
00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:31,480
Speaker 1: was was awful. Uh, He's taken a different than normal.

769
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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers tacked this week of being a fuse in

770
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Speaker 1: his praise of his time in Green Bay and saying

771
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Speaker 1: he wants to retire at Green Bay Packer. What are

772
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Speaker 1: you That's that's not kind of classic a Rod if

773
00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:44,520
Speaker 1: you will, Why the why the turn?

774
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Speaker 8: That's good? You know. I think I think Aaron understands

775
00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:51,879
Speaker 8: that this might be the last year, like this might

776
00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:53,720
Speaker 8: be the last one, and so let's not go out

777
00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:55,960
Speaker 8: as a bully. Let's go out as as a guy

778
00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:58,440
Speaker 8: that you know, appreciates what the Packers did and all

779
00:41:58,480 --> 00:41:59,880
Speaker 8: the opportunity you have there in the Super Bowl, she

780
00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:02,640
Speaker 8: kipping all those different things. And so I think it's

781
00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:05,719
Speaker 8: a mature Rogers to do that, to be able to

782
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:10,279
Speaker 8: walk and play in Lambeau and have that opportunity. But

783
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Speaker 8: I think that the when you well you're gonna be

784
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:15,960
Speaker 8: at to actually the games at Pittsburgh excuse me, but

785
00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:18,319
Speaker 8: the chance to play and say that you want to

786
00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:20,279
Speaker 8: be a team that drafted you and end up in

787
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:21,719
Speaker 8: their Ring of Honor in the Hall of Fame and

788
00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:23,480
Speaker 8: go in that way, I think it's great. And I

789
00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:25,440
Speaker 8: think it just speaks that he's I think he's maturing

790
00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:28,920
Speaker 8: it understanding again, he's building bridges as he sews up

791
00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:30,479
Speaker 8: what I think is going to be his last season

792
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:32,719
Speaker 8: in the NFL regardless, And I think it's a smart move.

793
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:35,880
Speaker 1: By him. What happened to their past rush and it

794
00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:36,960
Speaker 1: was non existent last week.

795
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Speaker 8: Yeah, that was hard for me to understand because I

796
00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:41,560
Speaker 8: feel like that's been one of the keys to the

797
00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:43,839
Speaker 8: Pittsburgh Steelers all year long, has been able to get

798
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Speaker 8: to the quarterback, whether it's the two starters or its

799
00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:48,920
Speaker 8: Herbic and you know, usually they find a way, but

800
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Speaker 8: this this last week, they just couldn't have an answer

801
00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:55,239
Speaker 8: for Joe Flacco and certainly Jamar Chase. And so I

802
00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:57,399
Speaker 8: think that that's I think that will change. I don't

803
00:42:57,400 --> 00:42:59,160
Speaker 8: think that's the norm for the Pittsburgh Steelers at all.

804
00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:01,279
Speaker 8: I think there'll be a much better team getting after

805
00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:04,000
Speaker 8: the quarterback this week than than they did before. But

806
00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:08,160
Speaker 8: I think the Steelers defense still should be especially the

807
00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:11,360
Speaker 8: front seven, the strength of that team, and I would expect,

808
00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:13,759
Speaker 8: you know that TJ. Watt will show up a lot

809
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:15,880
Speaker 8: more in this game. And again Nick Herbig to me

810
00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:18,319
Speaker 8: and Alex high Smith. When you have those three going,

811
00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:20,040
Speaker 8: they should get home and I think they.

812
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:23,640
Speaker 1: Will Giants to get another shot at the Eagles. And

813
00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:26,200
Speaker 1: the Giants, I mean, had a commanding lead and just

814
00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:30,600
Speaker 1: split up a game last week against Denver Broncos. But

815
00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:32,480
Speaker 1: you go back a couple weeks ago and on Thursday

816
00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:36,960
Speaker 1: Night Football they smashed the Philadelphi Eagles. How different will

817
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:37,480
Speaker 1: this game be?

818
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:40,960
Speaker 8: Well, A good thing for the Eagles, I think, and

819
00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:44,080
Speaker 8: just for them to be able to walk in this

820
00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:45,759
Speaker 8: game is they have a lot more tape now. And

821
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Speaker 8: I think that's going to be the big thing with

822
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Speaker 8: Jackson Darts, like to be able to start to look

823
00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:51,799
Speaker 8: for tendancies and see how can you take advantage of

824
00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:53,840
Speaker 8: it or what do you expect from him instead of

825
00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:55,439
Speaker 8: kind of being one of the first season that gets

826
00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:57,600
Speaker 8: to like take him on full time. And I think

827
00:43:57,600 --> 00:43:59,200
Speaker 8: that's a big deal. So I mean that's where I

828
00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:02,840
Speaker 8: think that Fangio the defensive coordinator there, with all of

829
00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:04,840
Speaker 8: his extremes, we'll try to take advantage of that. My

830
00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:07,160
Speaker 8: big thing for Jackson Dart is that he's got to

831
00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:09,799
Speaker 8: learn how to play for the next play. I don't

832
00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:13,520
Speaker 8: think you can play with his aggressiveness and stay healthy

833
00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:16,080
Speaker 8: for an entire season. So I hope I can watch

834
00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:19,120
Speaker 8: a guy that's willing to get down, maybe understands when

835
00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:21,440
Speaker 8: to slide a little bit sooner. But I don't feel

836
00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:22,920
Speaker 8: as confident that this game is going to go the

837
00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:24,440
Speaker 8: same way. I have a lot more confidence than where

838
00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:27,800
Speaker 8: I think Philadelphia learned that game, instead of the confidence

839
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Speaker 8: of Giants start starting to play with with their young quarterback.

840
00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:34,120
Speaker 1: It's going to be really interesting to see how that

841
00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:39,239
Speaker 1: evolves after people get that film on him and how

842
00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:44,920
Speaker 1: and who adjusts otherwise, what are that adjustment's like? Are you?

843
00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:50,759
Speaker 1: I'm I'm of the mindset to people who thought the

844
00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:54,000
Speaker 1: Brian Schottenheim or hire was a bad one, they're wrong.

845
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Speaker 1: Now their defense isn't particularly good, okay, but they're three

846
00:44:57,320 --> 00:44:59,680
Speaker 1: and three. They trade away Micah Parsons. We knew their

847
00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:02,120
Speaker 1: defense was gonna be great that they had Michael Parsons.

848
00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:05,279
Speaker 1: Am I crazy saying? Jerry Mndy got this one right?

849
00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:08,840
Speaker 8: Well, it feels from an offensive standpoint when you you

850
00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:10,480
Speaker 8: got a team here that's put forty points on the

851
00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:13,440
Speaker 8: board three times already to the season, and you know,

852
00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:15,200
Speaker 8: I think they'll have a lot of opportunities to do

853
00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:17,680
Speaker 8: that again. So from an offensive standpoint, you should be

854
00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:20,879
Speaker 8: very correct. I think you are correct. You know, It's

855
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:24,160
Speaker 8: it's tough when you lose a game like to the Panthers, Uh,

856
00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:26,239
Speaker 8: you know the way they did, But you know that's

857
00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:28,319
Speaker 8: a big win against the Commanders. That's probably the one

858
00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:30,920
Speaker 8: team that right now the season ended, isn't in the postseason.

859
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Speaker 8: You scratch your head in the NFC, go wait a second,

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Speaker 8: the Commanders aren't even in the postseason. And so I

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Speaker 8: got to give credit to Dallas that you know, yes,

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Speaker 8: they're at that five hundred records with the tie, and

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Speaker 8: we'll see how they play at Denver this week. You know,

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Speaker 8: it's going to be a great opportunity for them to

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Speaker 8: continue to you know, put victories on and for some reason,

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Speaker 8: you know, the Dallas Cowboys, the Commander A, probably the

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Speaker 8: two teams the NFC that you know aren't officially in

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Speaker 8: the playoffs, but you feel like at least one of

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Speaker 8: them will. If you've already beat Washington once, you got

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Speaker 8: a chance to be that team if you can just

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Speaker 8: get you know, I think because of the bye or

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Speaker 8: the excuse me, the tie, I think if you get

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Speaker 8: the ten wins, I think the Dallas Cowboys are.

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Speaker 1: In crazy to think considering what everybody thought would happen

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Speaker 1: first game of the year, Eagles, Cowboys thought it would

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Speaker 1: be a blowout. Thought the Cowboys be the laughing stock

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Speaker 1: of the league. They're not great, but they're definitely not

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Speaker 1: the laughing stock of the league. Mark, you're the best man.

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Speaker 1: Have a great weekend. Thanks so much for being our guest.

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Speaker 8: Doug, thanks for me on