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Speaker 1: and welcome back to Coast to Coast George and Ori

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Speaker 1: with you. Let me tell you a little bit about

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Speaker 1: our guest, Dr Renee Defoe the book Unsafe at Any Meal.

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Speaker 1: Dr Defoe became a medical laboratory specialist in the U.

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Speaker 1: S Army in nineteen seventy six, a Bachelor of Science

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Speaker 1: degree and environmental policy analysis and planning at the University

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Speaker 1: of California. Then served in the Navy for two years

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Speaker 1: as an industrial hygiene officer before transferring to the Public

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Speaker 1: Health Service, where she served as an environmental health officer. Now.

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Speaker 1: During this time, she worked at the National Institutes of Health,

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Speaker 1: the Environmental Protection agency the f d A, where she

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Speaker 1: provided expertise in the areas of toxicology, environmental health, and

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Speaker 1: industrial hygiene. Since her retirement, Dr Dafoe or the Doctorate

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Speaker 1: and Health Education and is the founding executive director of

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Speaker 1: the Food Ingredient and Health Research Institute. You have quite

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Speaker 1: a resume, doctor, Welcome to the program. Well loo hot George,

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Speaker 1: and thank you for having me on your program. Oh

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Speaker 1: my pleasure. And you do great work. Your book Unsafe

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Speaker 1: at Any Meal, I think is so important. I think

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Speaker 1: it's a must read for just about every family. And

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Speaker 1: thanks for serving. By the way, I served nine years

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Speaker 1: in the Navy and you were all over the place,

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Speaker 1: So thank you. Thank you. Now, tell me a little

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Speaker 1: bit about you were with the f d A and

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Speaker 1: you've written a book called Unsafe at Any Meal. What

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Speaker 1: the f d A doesn't want you to know about

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Speaker 1: the food? Jui? Tell me about that title. Uh, well,

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Speaker 1: what it really means is that without educating yourself, if

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Speaker 1: you eat the standard American diet, then you will become sick.

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Speaker 1: Over time, you or your child will develop a disease,

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Speaker 1: a Western disease. So if you're a pregnant woman and

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Speaker 1: you eat without awareness, then your child is going to

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Speaker 1: be at risk of autism, a d h D, type

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Speaker 1: two diabetes, or even hard disease. When when you were

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Speaker 1: at the f d A and you kind of saw

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Speaker 1: them turn their face the other way or the cheek

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Speaker 1: the other way, did it flabbergast you? Um? Well, I was.

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Speaker 1: I was blown away because I really didn't my work

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Speaker 1: had been supported there, I um. I I felt like

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Speaker 1: there was a lot of support at the agency. So

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Speaker 1: I was a bit surprised that they didn't want me

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Speaker 1: to to publish the findings that we've come up with. UM,

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Speaker 1: And there was some shock. I had to change my plans.

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Speaker 1: Is it all a money with the f d A.

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Speaker 1: I I think that the FDA is influenced by corporations,

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Speaker 1: and UM, it probably is, you know, I mean the

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Speaker 1: corporations that influence f DA. It's all about money for them,

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Speaker 1: that's for sure, the being able to make as much

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Speaker 1: profit as possible. And in fact, in the federal government

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Speaker 1: when when I was in and for several years towards

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Speaker 1: the end there we now law we didn't refer to

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Speaker 1: the government as a bureaucracy. We refer to it as

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Speaker 1: a corpureaucracy because that's what that's what it was. You know, Uh,

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Speaker 1: the influence was astronomical. You talk a lot about pesticides

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Speaker 1: and tell me what the f d A is not

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Speaker 1: doing about pesticides. Well, the FDA doesn't really have a

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Speaker 1: role in in pesticide regulation as far as food goes.

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Speaker 1: Where they do play a role is when when pesticides

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Speaker 1: are used in the manufacturing of products. So so things

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Speaker 1: that are packaged, there's gonna be some pesticides applications on

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Speaker 1: a company is preparing carrots and they're going to package them,

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Speaker 1: you know those little baby carrots that are skinned. Well,

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Speaker 1: then the chlorine bleach that is used to rense those,

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Speaker 1: uh those vegetables that that is a considered a pesticide.

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Speaker 1: So that's when the FDA has any say at all

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Speaker 1: about how pesticides are used. Uh, the you know, the

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Speaker 1: Environmental Protection Agency is involved in uh establishing the safe

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Speaker 1: levels of pesticides on on crops. So uh, they're are

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Speaker 1: the ones in charge of making those determinations. Is it

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Speaker 1: safe to say, doctor to fold death, We're getting killed

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Speaker 1: by the food we eat? Oh? I believe we are

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Speaker 1: absolutely that you've heard Western diet leads to Western disease.

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Speaker 1: I mean, all the diseases that we're seeing increase increase

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Speaker 1: over time with each successive generation. We've got kids now

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Speaker 1: that are you know, ten years old and being uh

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Speaker 1: diagnosed with tyttoo diabetes from the diet you know earlier

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Speaker 1: and earlier kids are being having the diagnoses of heart

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Speaker 1: disease and high blood pressure. It's just it's insane, so that,

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Speaker 1: without a doubt, the Western diet is killing us. Do

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Speaker 1: you think if we ate correctly we could cure most

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Speaker 1: of these uh problems? Absolutely? I think that if we

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Speaker 1: had a diet that was mostly whole food organic whenever possible,

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Speaker 1: and if we stayed away from all the processed foods

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Speaker 1: we would we would be healthy. And there's been there's

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Speaker 1: enough evidence to suggest that what's what's the definition of

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Speaker 1: a processed food. A processed food is in my mind,

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Speaker 1: when you buy something that didn't come out of the ground,

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Speaker 1: but perhaps it started there and then they did something

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Speaker 1: to the fruit or the vegetable or the grain, and

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Speaker 1: then through the process of making it into a new product,

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Speaker 1: whether it's flour you know, uh we get flower or

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Speaker 1: if it's um uh. You know, canned tomatoes, you know,

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Speaker 1: anything that is done to change the nature of that

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Speaker 1: whole food that came out of the ground and and

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Speaker 1: to produce a product that you can sell. That's that's

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Speaker 1: a processed food. And usually, you know, processed foods has

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Speaker 1: been ingredient labels. You don't find an ingredient label on

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Speaker 1: the tomato or a head a lettuce. You just point

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Speaker 1: an ingredient label on processed Listen to more Coast to

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