1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:02,960 Speaker 1: Hold on you if you that beef. I never knew that. 2 00:00:02,880 --> 00:00:07,640 Speaker 2: He had stories. I have the truth. I took the shots. 3 00:00:08,160 --> 00:00:10,920 Speaker 3: Whatever came with it, and I used to reach out 4 00:00:10,960 --> 00:00:12,479 Speaker 3: to people like how you deal with this? 5 00:00:13,400 --> 00:00:14,960 Speaker 1: Are you different? 6 00:00:15,320 --> 00:00:19,320 Speaker 2: You're the president of the team. 7 00:00:18,480 --> 00:00:22,239 Speaker 3: Talking about the team, and if you talking about the 8 00:00:22,360 --> 00:00:26,400 Speaker 3: team and the team is not good, then who does 9 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:29,960 Speaker 3: the bullets go to? Because it's an easy escapegoal to 10 00:00:30,120 --> 00:00:33,720 Speaker 3: point me out than it is to just say and 11 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:37,279 Speaker 3: man up and say, you know what, my tenure here 12 00:00:37,479 --> 00:00:40,600 Speaker 3: wasn't great at all. Had that tenure I should have 13 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:42,000 Speaker 3: came down there and coach. 14 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:51,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, I did a pig, big big, tell me to win. 15 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:56,440 Speaker 4: I never pig big big say it again. I pig 16 00:00:57,000 --> 00:01:00,960 Speaker 4: big big, pell me to win. I never pid big 17 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:02,560 Speaker 4: big sang it again. 18 00:01:02,760 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 3: I do a big. 19 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:16,800 Speaker 4: I do a big, big big sang it again. 20 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:18,120 Speaker 3: I do a big. 21 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 5: Welcome to the Big Podcast with Shack, where we always 22 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:26,920 Speaker 5: do it big. 23 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:27,720 Speaker 2: Let's go. 24 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:32,560 Speaker 5: I'm ussa menaj. I am co hosting this podcast with 25 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:35,720 Speaker 5: the one and only Shaquille O'Neal. Bailey Jackson is also 26 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:38,520 Speaker 5: joining us, and one of the greatest scorers of all time. 27 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:41,679 Speaker 5: Dare I say one of the smoothest jumpers ever. Check YouTube, 28 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:44,280 Speaker 5: mister Kamalo Anthony, Ladies and gentlemen, let's give it up. 29 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:49,480 Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you, Yes, yes, comello. I've been knowing 30 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:51,560 Speaker 1: you for a long time. Yeah, that's trying to say, 31 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:55,120 Speaker 1: I'm proud of you, thank you all your accomplishments. It's 32 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 1: glad you didn't pass me up in that scoring less. 33 00:01:57,400 --> 00:01:58,200 Speaker 2: I know I saw it. 34 00:01:58,320 --> 00:02:01,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, I was like that because because because my thing 35 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:03,320 Speaker 1: was when I left I think I was four or five. 36 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:05,920 Speaker 1: Now I'm number nine, a couple of years from a 37 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:14,160 Speaker 1: couple of boys. Now, So how is it with your 38 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 1: new gig with the NBA doing a really good job, 39 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:21,360 Speaker 1: by the way, how is it? And we get a 40 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:24,320 Speaker 1: lot of flag for jumping on the younger generation. Do 41 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 1: you you feel at times you you want to be hard, 42 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:29,920 Speaker 1: but you don't want to upset them, and you know 43 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:31,639 Speaker 1: you don't want to say certain things. 44 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 2: No, no, no. 45 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 3: No, I don't like the way I wanted to always 46 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:40,240 Speaker 3: talk the game is the way that I talk the 47 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 3: game amongst people who respect the game. Right, So yeah, 48 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:47,640 Speaker 3: you're going to say, oh, this guy should have should 49 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:49,720 Speaker 3: have did this in that in that situation, Know, we 50 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:54,079 Speaker 3: project our game and those situations and what we went 51 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 3: through and experience on a younger generation. I'm just like now, 52 00:02:56,600 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 3: I'd rather just talk about your game, tell you what 53 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:01,919 Speaker 3: you need to work on, what I think you need 54 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:04,960 Speaker 3: to work on. From my perspective, respect the game, respect 55 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 3: you as a as a player. But most I got 56 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 3: to keep that line during from a man and a player, right, 57 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:13,880 Speaker 3: So I will never touch the man's side of you. 58 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:15,400 Speaker 2: I will never touch the character. 59 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 3: But if I see something that I think you should 60 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:20,079 Speaker 3: be doing, if I think you should be rebounded more, 61 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:22,880 Speaker 3: I'm gonna say, hey, I think Shack should be rebounding 62 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 3: more because of X y Z. 63 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:27,839 Speaker 2: Here's why I think that. So that's just my way 64 00:03:27,880 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 2: of talking the game. Everybody's different. 65 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:32,840 Speaker 5: Though you get spicy, you get spicy on that. 66 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 1: The reason why I get spicy is because we have 67 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 1: what's known as G fourteen classification. When it comes to scoring. 68 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 1: Ain't nobody better than you comes to dominating the originalbody better. 69 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 1: So when I talk, even though I get spicy, what 70 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 1: I'm trying to do is also give them the information. Yeah, 71 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:52,680 Speaker 1: I know what I'm talking about. When it comes coming 72 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:55,120 Speaker 1: off that pick and roll in a tight spot, pulling 73 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 1: up and the type jump. But he knows what he's 74 00:03:57,560 --> 00:04:01,040 Speaker 1: talking about, so I get up set them. Sometimes we'll 75 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 1: be like, yo, you think I'm trying to be personal. 76 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 1: I'm not trying to be personal, but I do know 77 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:07,440 Speaker 1: what I'm talking about. And I can't falter or fall 78 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:11,800 Speaker 1: back because of sensitivity because guess what, there wasn't sensitive 79 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 1: about talking about us. So I mean, but I look 80 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:18,359 Speaker 1: at other people and how they do it, and you 81 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:21,400 Speaker 1: know a lot of people I think hold back sometime 82 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:23,160 Speaker 1: and a lot of people don't. 83 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:24,760 Speaker 5: But when you're in the league, did you call him ever? 84 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 5: I'm always been interested by this because comedy is different 85 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:30,839 Speaker 5: than and it's you know, master sheifu over here, you 86 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:31,719 Speaker 5: know what I mean? 87 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:34,000 Speaker 2: Calling the game? 88 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, or just like you're one of the masters of 89 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:38,240 Speaker 5: the game, I'm gonna call you. 90 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:41,760 Speaker 3: So when you are vice or wisdom that's playing. You know, 91 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:45,360 Speaker 3: when you sitting and watching those guys talk the game, 92 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 3: when they get into the real thick of the game, 93 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:52,560 Speaker 3: you pay attention to that, right like you pay attention 94 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:56,200 Speaker 3: to when Shaq is talking about how a big man 95 00:04:56,240 --> 00:04:58,599 Speaker 3: should be dominating and how he should be able to 96 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:01,240 Speaker 3: use both hands and how you to have great footwork 97 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:04,800 Speaker 3: in the post, like, we listen to that because that 98 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:08,479 Speaker 3: is a skillful part of the game that everybody should know. 99 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:10,040 Speaker 3: If you're big, you should be you should be able 100 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:12,680 Speaker 3: to jump hook right, jump hook left, quick spind you 101 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:13,920 Speaker 3: should be dominant down there. 102 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:14,960 Speaker 2: A lot of time. 103 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:18,000 Speaker 3: He's coming from a standpoint of being the most dominant 104 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:22,239 Speaker 3: big man of all time. Right, we would never see 105 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:26,119 Speaker 3: this power ever again, this power to speed, to force, 106 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:28,840 Speaker 3: the toughness, we would never see that again. 107 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:33,560 Speaker 2: So there's not nobody else that what I'm saying. 108 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 3: At the end of the day, these guys cannot reach that, right, 109 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:42,120 Speaker 3: So he can only and he's the only one who 110 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:45,640 Speaker 3: can speak on what that should be like down there 111 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:48,240 Speaker 3: on that block. I can't tell you from a from 112 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:51,560 Speaker 3: a center standpoint, a big man's standpoint, what to do 113 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:55,120 Speaker 3: down there on that block, right, So it's just different perspective. 114 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:57,719 Speaker 3: I watched them. I watch everybody out there who speaks 115 00:05:57,720 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 3: the game. I try to see what they're talking about, 116 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 3: right and where they where. I respect him at Shaq 117 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:05,440 Speaker 3: Grady is one of the greatest big men of all time. 118 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 3: Most down with the big man. I want to hear 119 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:09,840 Speaker 3: what he got to say to Joker and in Bed 120 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:11,279 Speaker 3: and all of these bigs. 121 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 2: I want to hear what he got to say. I 122 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:13,640 Speaker 2: want to hear. 123 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 3: Barkley talk about the power forwards and you know what 124 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:20,040 Speaker 3: it takes to be that type of power forward, Right, 125 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:22,480 Speaker 3: Kenny could talk to guards like I love to hear 126 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:25,480 Speaker 3: that type of But when those lines get blurred, that's 127 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:27,520 Speaker 3: what I stay away from. 128 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:30,880 Speaker 6: So I've seen you be vocal about Rudy Gobert and 129 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 6: your opinions of him, and I've seen you get on 130 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:36,680 Speaker 6: him about that. Explain why you've been so critical of 131 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:37,680 Speaker 6: Shock about Rudy. 132 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 3: It's it's the point what I was just saying, right, 133 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:45,400 Speaker 3: Rudy would never be that. You get what I'm saying, 134 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:48,200 Speaker 3: But I don't want him to be me. I understand 135 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:53,279 Speaker 3: that ever be the force or even the style of 136 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:58,719 Speaker 3: big men that he was right, and he comes so 137 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 3: hard on the big man to the point where it's 138 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:04,600 Speaker 3: like I totally get what he can. 139 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:05,160 Speaker 2: Curse him. 140 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:09,120 Speaker 3: Sorry, I totally get what he's coming from. But I'm 141 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:11,280 Speaker 3: looking at it like, bro, we just got to keep 142 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:14,040 Speaker 3: him in his box. Like Rudy, he ain't gonna never 143 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 3: be that, He's never gonna be able to do that. 144 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 3: But he's great at what he do, and then I'll say, 145 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:19,480 Speaker 3: you know what, shock. 146 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 2: Stall him out. 147 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 5: At least leader respect, I respect community and the basketball. 148 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:30,520 Speaker 5: You've been broker in peace on seven PM. I have 149 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:35,080 Speaker 5: trying to get parties in relationships. Yeah, I don't. 150 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 1: I don't want no problem. 151 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 2: So it is I think people not to cut you up. People. 152 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:44,360 Speaker 2: I don't know that, right, I know that we know that, right, 153 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 2: people don't do not know that. Shack don't want no problem. 154 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 1: Giving you all the information, So let me tell you 155 00:07:52,360 --> 00:07:56,040 Speaker 1: a couple of secrets. This thing of ours. The money 156 00:07:56,080 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 1: is great, right, the money is so great. Now, if 157 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:02,240 Speaker 1: you're making them money, you're not performing, they start to 158 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:04,160 Speaker 1: look at us like they're gonna take our money away. 159 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:07,320 Speaker 1: Always protect this thing of ours. Right, you're making two fifty. 160 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:09,760 Speaker 1: So if you're making two fifty, play like you're worth 161 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:12,080 Speaker 1: two fifty. That's all I do. I don't want you 162 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 1: to be me. But if you're the defensive player in here, 163 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 1: don't get dunkd on. I don't like to rebound, do 164 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 1: certain things. That's all I ask for. I don't want 165 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:22,160 Speaker 1: you to score on that. I'm just saying you have 166 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 1: to protect this thing about because there's a lot of 167 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 1: bums out there not making money, and he knows this. 168 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:29,720 Speaker 1: The fact, there's conversation where they're trying to change everything 169 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:31,600 Speaker 1: and bring it back to the whole day. So you 170 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:33,640 Speaker 1: have to protect this thing about. So when I say 171 00:08:33,679 --> 00:08:35,720 Speaker 1: something that I'm actually trying to get you mad, so 172 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:40,319 Speaker 1: you step up. Because listen, listen, barklaying them didn't didn't 173 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:42,600 Speaker 1: make it make a lot, but they paid the way 174 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:46,559 Speaker 1: for me. Larry Johnson and Derek Coleman paid the way 175 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:48,719 Speaker 1: for me. I paid the way for Garnett Guardne that 176 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:50,280 Speaker 1: paid the way for gut And the money is so 177 00:08:50,400 --> 00:08:53,080 Speaker 1: great or not? Yes, I am jealous. I wish I 178 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:55,520 Speaker 1: was making two fifty. No think about it. I wish 179 00:08:55,559 --> 00:08:58,040 Speaker 1: I could score average six points and make two fifty. 180 00:08:58,080 --> 00:09:00,680 Speaker 1: But I'm not. So I want these guys to protect 181 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 1: this thing of ours because they say that, they said 182 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:07,360 Speaker 1: that Cooper Flag could be making no a Doncis would 183 00:09:07,679 --> 00:09:09,599 Speaker 1: be making ninety million a year if you were to 184 00:09:09,640 --> 00:09:12,560 Speaker 1: stayed with Dallas ninety two one hundred million dollars a year. 185 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:15,240 Speaker 1: So if we don't protect this thing about, that's gonna 186 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:17,480 Speaker 1: go away. That's why I'm hard on all big Man 187 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:19,600 Speaker 1: as the leader of the big man of lives. If 188 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:21,440 Speaker 1: you're don't be a big man, just be a big man. 189 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:23,320 Speaker 1: And I think people missing a sense. I don't want 190 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:24,680 Speaker 1: him to be damas. I want you to be a 191 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:25,160 Speaker 1: big man. 192 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:28,040 Speaker 5: But sometimes shack you hit up with the low blows. 193 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:28,760 Speaker 2: That's what you do. 194 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:30,320 Speaker 5: No, no, no, because I can. I just do this 195 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:32,000 Speaker 5: because this may not happen in my life. So I 196 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:34,040 Speaker 5: grew up in Sacramento, California. I'm not trying to brag. 197 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:36,680 Speaker 5: I grew up in Davis. So he broke my heart 198 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:39,280 Speaker 5: growing up. You broke my heart growing up. Why between 199 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:40,960 Speaker 5: nineteen ninety nine and two thousand and three he broke 200 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:44,560 Speaker 5: my heart? The Sacramento is all we had. You guys 201 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:47,520 Speaker 5: stood between us in a championship. No, no, no, thank you, 202 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:50,400 Speaker 5: mellow and so. And this is my moment, destiny Kiss 203 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:53,000 Speaker 5: Smith has made our paths cross in this moment, and 204 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:55,120 Speaker 5: I just want a mea culpa right here, right now 205 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:56,840 Speaker 5: on behalf of the city of Sacramento. I need this 206 00:09:56,880 --> 00:09:59,040 Speaker 5: to camera one. I need you to take back the 207 00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:00,720 Speaker 5: fact that you called us the side coming on queens. 208 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:04,040 Speaker 1: No, I can't do it. I can't do it. 209 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:06,560 Speaker 5: You're really gonna put on Sacramento like this. 210 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:07,160 Speaker 1: It's not. 211 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:09,839 Speaker 5: It's a beautiful city with great people. So you have 212 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:11,520 Speaker 5: to under think you've got two malls. 213 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:14,720 Speaker 1: Now you committed there, you do? You do? 214 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:18,000 Speaker 5: You have an incredible midtown and that we have R 215 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:20,040 Speaker 5: two D two's that go around the new Arena. 216 00:10:20,160 --> 00:10:24,480 Speaker 1: I'm the director of Sacramento State Basketball. I actually love Sacramento. 217 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:27,079 Speaker 1: But he knows this because I seen him talk trash 218 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:31,160 Speaker 1: with people. That's how you get people out the game, manipulation. 219 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:34,160 Speaker 1: I wanted them to be at their basket because I 220 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:35,680 Speaker 1: know if we beat them at the best, we gots 221 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:39,080 Speaker 1: winning championship queens. I don't know about your queens, just 222 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:41,520 Speaker 1: to see what they're gonna do. And a lot of 223 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:43,320 Speaker 1: guys didn't do anything. That's how I know. 224 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:44,920 Speaker 2: We have in the city for decades. 225 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:48,079 Speaker 5: Bro, listen, listen, mean for decades. 226 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:50,840 Speaker 1: There was only one guy who took that personal and 227 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:54,480 Speaker 1: that's why I love him. Respected. No, Mike baby, my 228 00:10:54,640 --> 00:10:57,200 Speaker 1: baby bro. His boys to come and see me, and 229 00:10:57,240 --> 00:10:59,199 Speaker 1: as his boys like, you know, my people know, so 230 00:10:59,400 --> 00:11:01,800 Speaker 1: his boys my boys finally got the point and like, 231 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:03,360 Speaker 1: hey man, it's just about but it. 232 00:11:04,840 --> 00:11:06,960 Speaker 2: It could have went left team. 233 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:10,720 Speaker 1: Yes, I could have went left, but but I I 234 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:14,840 Speaker 1: love Sacramento. And you know what I've always loved about 235 00:11:14,880 --> 00:11:17,320 Speaker 1: him is and the reason why I never messed with 236 00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:21,040 Speaker 1: him disrespect, Like when you see a person go from 237 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:24,120 Speaker 1: boom to beam, the respected automatic, and like I always 238 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:26,480 Speaker 1: talk about all my guys who are who are let play? 239 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:28,840 Speaker 1: I used to love watching him with Kobe and d 240 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:31,880 Speaker 1: Waye go back at it because because I know my 241 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 1: guys dope, but this guy's dope too. But now let 242 00:11:34,679 --> 00:11:37,920 Speaker 1: me just be a fan and just and just let 243 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:39,640 Speaker 1: him go. So I never mess with him. I never 244 00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:41,840 Speaker 1: messed with t Mac. I never messed with White Chocolate. 245 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:44,080 Speaker 1: All the other guards I try to they come to land. 246 00:11:44,120 --> 00:11:46,360 Speaker 1: I tried to touch him up, but him what he 247 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:48,640 Speaker 1: did in college, we all saw it, and then to 248 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:50,360 Speaker 1: bring that and then bring that, and then what he 249 00:11:50,400 --> 00:11:53,160 Speaker 1: did with you. I've always had my respect for you. 250 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:54,839 Speaker 1: Never get to see it. I just wanted to tell 251 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:56,520 Speaker 1: you that I love the game, but I'm glad you 252 00:11:56,559 --> 00:11:59,720 Speaker 1: didn't passed me up the score. 253 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:03,640 Speaker 7: All Right, we're gonna do a little pick six where Shaq, 254 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:06,160 Speaker 7: I am gonna tell you a player, and you're gonna 255 00:12:06,160 --> 00:12:09,400 Speaker 7: tell me more or less We're gonna focus on Cowboys 256 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:12,400 Speaker 7: Vikings Sunday night football. 257 00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:16,320 Speaker 8: Dak Prescott passing yards more or less? 258 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:16,960 Speaker 1: More? 259 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 8: What about touchdowns? 260 00:12:19,160 --> 00:12:19,439 Speaker 5: More? 261 00:12:19,960 --> 00:12:20,080 Speaker 1: So? 262 00:12:20,200 --> 00:12:21,880 Speaker 8: Dak's been playing while you're liking him. 263 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:24,520 Speaker 7: Running Back Javonte Williams was a big pickup from the 264 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:27,720 Speaker 7: Broncos in the offseason. What about his rushing yards more 265 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:28,200 Speaker 7: or less? 266 00:12:28,280 --> 00:12:28,520 Speaker 1: More? 267 00:12:28,920 --> 00:12:33,440 Speaker 7: And then touchdowns for him less? Okay, so he doesn't score. 268 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:37,800 Speaker 7: Sounds like a big George Pickens game. JJ McCarthy more 269 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:42,480 Speaker 7: or less passing yards more? Ugh, first one, I disagree 270 00:12:42,480 --> 00:12:47,120 Speaker 7: with you on more and then justin Jefferson passing yards? 271 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:51,559 Speaker 7: So he has a big day against the Cowboys. Does 272 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:55,560 Speaker 7: he score a touchdown? This is not part of pick six. 273 00:12:55,559 --> 00:12:56,480 Speaker 7: But who wins the game? 274 00:12:57,240 --> 00:12:58,440 Speaker 1: Cowboys? Okay? 275 00:12:59,000 --> 00:12:59,880 Speaker 8: You feeling confident? 276 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:00,840 Speaker 1: Yeah? All right. 277 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:05,400 Speaker 7: Other game we have is Falcons Bucks, which is Thursday 278 00:13:05,520 --> 00:13:10,160 Speaker 7: night football. That is the sound of a buccaneer training 279 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:14,280 Speaker 7: his ankle on the ship. Baker Mayfield having a heck 280 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:18,160 Speaker 7: of a year more or less passing yards les less touchdowns? 281 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:21,600 Speaker 8: Yes, okay, so a quiet day for Baker. You might 282 00:13:21,640 --> 00:13:22,400 Speaker 8: have to run. 283 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:26,320 Speaker 2: It is in Tampa Bay. 284 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:27,320 Speaker 1: Okay, more and more? 285 00:13:27,559 --> 00:13:30,880 Speaker 8: So you're switching it, Baker, we like more passing yards 286 00:13:30,920 --> 00:13:35,840 Speaker 8: and touchdowns a Mecca Agbuka, I did not curse at 287 00:13:35,880 --> 00:13:41,079 Speaker 8: you more or less receiving yards less? What about touchdowns more? 288 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:44,920 Speaker 7: Shout out to a Mecca Buka U b Jon Robinson, 289 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:49,040 Speaker 7: the stud running back for the Atlanta Falcons rivalry game. 290 00:13:49,080 --> 00:13:51,880 Speaker 7: You're saying more rushing yards does he score a touchdowns? 291 00:13:51,960 --> 00:13:53,720 Speaker 7: I would agree with that as well. All right, so 292 00:13:53,760 --> 00:13:57,000 Speaker 7: you're seeing an offensive game on Thursday Night football as 293 00:13:57,040 --> 00:13:58,079 Speaker 7: well for the Cowboys. 294 00:13:58,080 --> 00:14:01,640 Speaker 8: We'll see how Shaks Pick six does next episode. 295 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:08,760 Speaker 1: The Big Podcast is a team that with DraftKings Pick 296 00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:11,320 Speaker 1: six where we do it big, big matchups this week, 297 00:14:11,400 --> 00:14:14,679 Speaker 1: big conversations everywhere, and Draft Kings Pick six that you 298 00:14:14,840 --> 00:14:17,080 Speaker 1: ride the upside on all of it. This is the 299 00:14:17,080 --> 00:14:18,679 Speaker 1: best time of the year and we have lots of 300 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:21,680 Speaker 1: good football. We are staying busy this season and hitting more, 301 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:26,320 Speaker 1: more and more, more touchdowns, more passing yards, more receiving yards. 302 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:29,040 Speaker 1: New Draftking customers play five dollars and get fifty dollars 303 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:32,240 Speaker 1: and pick six credits. Simple, easy and big pot approve. 304 00:14:32,560 --> 00:14:34,520 Speaker 1: So get in on the action and sign up using 305 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:38,680 Speaker 1: my promo code Big Pod one More time, New Draftking 306 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:41,680 Speaker 1: customers play five dollars and get fifty dollars and pick six. 307 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:50,320 Speaker 8: Credits, and now superhuman Shack. 308 00:14:50,520 --> 00:14:53,520 Speaker 1: I keep telling him not to say that. I'm no superhuman. 309 00:14:53,560 --> 00:14:56,600 Speaker 1: Believe it or not, I'll struggle with moderate obstructive sleep 310 00:14:56,640 --> 00:15:00,760 Speaker 1: athlete or OSA an adults with obesity moderate severe always 311 00:15:00,760 --> 00:15:03,400 Speaker 1: say is a condition where breathing is interrupted during sleep, 312 00:15:03,760 --> 00:15:06,840 Speaker 1: with loud snoring, choking and gasping for air, and even 313 00:15:06,920 --> 00:15:13,920 Speaker 1: daytime fatigued. Let's just say it sounding sounds familiar. If 314 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:16,440 Speaker 1: this right here sounds familiar, learn more at Don't Sleep 315 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:17,680 Speaker 1: on always a dot com. 316 00:15:17,800 --> 00:15:21,040 Speaker 8: This information provided by Lily, a medicine company. 317 00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:25,200 Speaker 6: Speaking of respect as one of the greatest scores of 318 00:15:25,240 --> 00:15:27,920 Speaker 6: all time, who do you feel like in the NBA 319 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:31,280 Speaker 6: currently has a package that rivals your game? 320 00:15:33,280 --> 00:15:36,680 Speaker 2: I mean you have guys like Kadie. 321 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:44,240 Speaker 3: Book Tatum when when like when he's when he's on, 322 00:15:44,480 --> 00:15:48,680 Speaker 3: when he's in the zone, Tatum only when he's in 323 00:15:48,760 --> 00:15:52,320 Speaker 3: that zone because he he he does it at multiple 324 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:56,480 Speaker 3: levels of scoring. And then you have guys like Luca 325 00:15:56,520 --> 00:16:01,800 Speaker 3: who control the game with his pace and angles and. 326 00:16:01,160 --> 00:16:02,440 Speaker 2: Kyrie got the footwork. 327 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:03,200 Speaker 5: Ah. 328 00:16:03,280 --> 00:16:06,840 Speaker 3: It's hard to say, right because and it's as I'm 329 00:16:06,880 --> 00:16:09,440 Speaker 3: I'll go back and watch my games now, like I 330 00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:11,160 Speaker 3: just want to see. I want to become a fan 331 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:13,400 Speaker 3: of what everybody else became a fan because I never 332 00:16:13,400 --> 00:16:15,880 Speaker 3: could pay attention to it when you're actually doing it. 333 00:16:15,920 --> 00:16:17,680 Speaker 2: So I pay attention to why. 334 00:16:18,400 --> 00:16:22,040 Speaker 3: I became hawaii Am the footwork, the spacing, playing in 335 00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:26,240 Speaker 3: tight spaces, quick hands, quick jump, physical like it was 336 00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:30,440 Speaker 3: all assets of the game. So when I look at 337 00:16:30,520 --> 00:16:32,800 Speaker 3: guys that's out there today, it's hard for me to 338 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:37,640 Speaker 3: put them in those those buckets because everybody is not 339 00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:42,080 Speaker 3: a small forward that's playing on the block. Everybody's small 340 00:16:42,160 --> 00:16:46,440 Speaker 3: forwards can't fade baseline on, fade middle and one dribble 341 00:16:46,440 --> 00:16:49,960 Speaker 3: pull up and two dribble pullouts and playing tight spaces 342 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:52,800 Speaker 3: and like it's just you don't see that anymore. 343 00:16:53,480 --> 00:16:54,560 Speaker 2: So it's kind of hard. 344 00:16:54,360 --> 00:16:57,640 Speaker 3: For me to to put those yea to some point 345 00:16:57,680 --> 00:17:01,400 Speaker 3: who it's just you know, those guys, like when I 346 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:05,200 Speaker 3: look at guys who play with pace and then impatience too, 347 00:17:05,400 --> 00:17:07,720 Speaker 3: like you know, after you play fans, after you slow 348 00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:11,280 Speaker 3: the game up, if you manipulate the game by playing 349 00:17:11,320 --> 00:17:14,000 Speaker 3: at your speed, shake Gilkres, Like I'm not saying that 350 00:17:14,040 --> 00:17:17,480 Speaker 3: he's a similar player, but the way he controls the game, 351 00:17:17,600 --> 00:17:20,840 Speaker 3: the pace and his patients in the game, and no 352 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:22,919 Speaker 3: matter what you do, he got to counter to account 353 00:17:23,040 --> 00:17:25,360 Speaker 3: to a counter, right. 354 00:17:25,200 --> 00:17:26,360 Speaker 2: I watched Paul. 355 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:31,520 Speaker 3: Pierce growing up, t Mac growing up, Mitch Richmond, growing 356 00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:33,639 Speaker 3: up like Ron Mercer. 357 00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:35,960 Speaker 2: I used to watch him religiously. 358 00:17:36,840 --> 00:17:39,840 Speaker 3: Shooting a pull up, like I always just wanted that 359 00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:41,600 Speaker 3: pull up right there. And then you went to old 360 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:44,600 Speaker 3: kill too, somebody like, oh. 361 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:45,320 Speaker 5: You were always very quick with the draw. Is there 362 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:47,840 Speaker 5: anybody in the league that has your draw the way 363 00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:49,960 Speaker 5: you are able to pull up on a jumper just 364 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:50,480 Speaker 5: so fast. 365 00:17:50,640 --> 00:17:54,159 Speaker 3: The guys that I've worked with and we've worked together, 366 00:17:55,240 --> 00:17:59,840 Speaker 3: I see it. The Chris Pauls has that quick, you know, 367 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:04,359 Speaker 3: pick up drive. Kyrie a very quick pickup dribble. Steph 368 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:07,960 Speaker 3: has a very quick pickup dribble. These are all guys 369 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:11,359 Speaker 3: that we've been actually you're talking about working on a skill. 370 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:15,439 Speaker 3: They've been a part of those those gym sessions. And 371 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:18,040 Speaker 3: you can look at it and see, like how all 372 00:18:18,080 --> 00:18:20,879 Speaker 3: of those guys picked the pick the drible up away 373 00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:23,120 Speaker 3: from this, away from the hand that's there. They moved 374 00:18:23,160 --> 00:18:26,119 Speaker 3: the ball when they like it's it's little things that 375 00:18:26,119 --> 00:18:27,080 Speaker 3: that you can see, if you. 376 00:18:27,040 --> 00:18:29,800 Speaker 1: Know, when you watch the game now. And I disagree 377 00:18:29,840 --> 00:18:31,320 Speaker 1: with a lot of people, but do you think the 378 00:18:31,359 --> 00:18:34,160 Speaker 1: game has evolved. I don't think it has. 379 00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:37,520 Speaker 3: The basics of the game has an evice. The basics 380 00:18:37,560 --> 00:18:39,560 Speaker 3: is still the basics of the game. You gotta be 381 00:18:39,560 --> 00:18:41,040 Speaker 3: able to defend, you gotta be able to score, you 382 00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:43,200 Speaker 3: gotta reband out a black shots, got to communicate, you 383 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:45,640 Speaker 3: gotta be fits like those are the basics. 384 00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:46,040 Speaker 2: Of the game. 385 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:50,200 Speaker 3: I just think this generation, these younger players, like they 386 00:18:50,280 --> 00:18:55,840 Speaker 3: took our skill set and evolved it like it just 387 00:18:55,920 --> 00:18:58,400 Speaker 3: they elevated this. It's it's you know, we had guys 388 00:18:58,400 --> 00:19:00,320 Speaker 3: who do a step back. We didn't have to do 389 00:19:00,359 --> 00:19:02,560 Speaker 3: a double step back. You guys to do a triple 390 00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:04,720 Speaker 3: step back. And let me tell you why. I disagree, 391 00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:09,880 Speaker 3: and I get hated on this, but I can't take 392 00:19:09,920 --> 00:19:12,760 Speaker 3: you until y'all can play with us. I don't think 393 00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:17,679 Speaker 3: it's that's just me. That's just like I see what 394 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:20,040 Speaker 3: the guys are doing. But if you couldn't play, yeah, 395 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:25,280 Speaker 3: you couldn't come in the garden against you know. And yeah, 396 00:19:25,320 --> 00:19:29,400 Speaker 3: that that's my point. That's one percent your bar. 397 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:36,680 Speaker 5: I mean, and by the way, this is the this 398 00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:38,720 Speaker 5: is the crazy thing. I'm a Kings fan too, and 399 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:41,840 Speaker 5: you really with us you could break dance to to 400 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:47,160 Speaker 5: be your size and c It's not fair man. 401 00:19:48,040 --> 00:19:49,760 Speaker 2: He was hip hop, you know when you talk about 402 00:19:49,840 --> 00:20:00,400 Speaker 2: hip hop and that the different but. 403 00:19:58,040 --> 00:20:01,040 Speaker 1: The old heads of man. Because the game is evolved, 404 00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:04,440 Speaker 1: like evolved. I have a question. I used to hate 405 00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:07,199 Speaker 1: on Luca for the longest and then I've seen him 406 00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:11,840 Speaker 1: play live. I know he's really that good, But how 407 00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:15,120 Speaker 1: come people can't stop him? He's not really evolved. No, 408 00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:17,080 Speaker 1: but he's not really fast. He don't have a lot 409 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:21,840 Speaker 1: of lyft, but he'd be busting everybody up pace. I'm like, 410 00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:25,760 Speaker 1: I'm like, brock his chot, like it's just you know 411 00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:26,400 Speaker 1: what's happening. 412 00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:28,280 Speaker 5: But then, but then explain how they do that with Steph. 413 00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:30,920 Speaker 5: Steph is like a smurf. You're like, just body him, 414 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:32,439 Speaker 5: body him up right? 415 00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:36,200 Speaker 3: So take Steph for an example. He expanded the game yeah, 416 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:41,720 Speaker 3: right out. You know there's guys who expanded the game vertical. 417 00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:45,399 Speaker 3: He expanded the game out. We had guys who was 418 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:49,840 Speaker 3: coming off strings, pinned downs, shooting out the ball, you know, 419 00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:52,840 Speaker 3: like the reggies of the world, and like we had 420 00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:54,680 Speaker 3: those pure shooters. 421 00:20:54,359 --> 00:20:55,640 Speaker 5: He's shooting from forty feet out. 422 00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:59,800 Speaker 2: He took that and went to have court with it. 423 00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:01,960 Speaker 2: You've never got a nobody. 424 00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:05,359 Speaker 3: We sused to get mad at guards picking up guys 425 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:08,400 Speaker 3: at half court. Oh man, pick up and then drop 426 00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:11,159 Speaker 3: back hills to the three. You can't do that with 427 00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:14,840 Speaker 3: Steph right, he's shooting the minute he's coming across half course. 428 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:18,080 Speaker 3: So if that is not tell you the game has evolved. 429 00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:20,760 Speaker 6: From a where you're looking at scorers on the floor. 430 00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:23,560 Speaker 6: I mean going that far back, like you make a 431 00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:25,400 Speaker 6: point being that deep. 432 00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:27,560 Speaker 5: Could you play now faced up to the basket? 433 00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:29,720 Speaker 1: No, I wouldn't do that. 434 00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:31,440 Speaker 5: How would you? 435 00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:34,040 Speaker 1: I would love to play now. I'm gonna tell you 436 00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:37,520 Speaker 1: why every time jokers shot her three, I'm gonna run 437 00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:39,240 Speaker 1: right past them and post up in the middle of 438 00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:41,680 Speaker 1: line and play my game. I'm not gonna shoot it, 439 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:43,520 Speaker 1: and I'm not gonna be doing a whole bunch of 440 00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:46,840 Speaker 1: pick and roll. I'm a boom. They're gonna double me 441 00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:49,080 Speaker 1: and then kick them my guy, I'm not changing my game. 442 00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:51,720 Speaker 1: So I'm the only way I would shoot a three 443 00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:54,200 Speaker 1: is if we're up ten to fifteen points. But I'm 444 00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:56,919 Speaker 1: gonna try to defend and Joe Carp as great as 445 00:21:56,920 --> 00:21:59,400 Speaker 1: it is, you missed in trouble because now you're gonna 446 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:01,840 Speaker 1: have to sprint back. Everybody gonna split back and they're 447 00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:03,600 Speaker 1: gonna focus with me. I'm gonna get double. I'm gonna 448 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:05,960 Speaker 1: kick it. I'm kick it the T Max. So I 449 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:08,920 Speaker 1: would still be me. And remember I'm the first big 450 00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:11,679 Speaker 1: dude to bring it up with styling and charisma. So 451 00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:14,320 Speaker 1: it ain't like you know, don't you had a cross 452 00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:17,359 Speaker 1: like you know people like you know people When they 453 00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:19,400 Speaker 1: talk about it if I could have played, they talk 454 00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:21,080 Speaker 1: as if I was a stiff. I was the first 455 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:23,199 Speaker 1: big guy to go coast to coast with it. Well, 456 00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:25,800 Speaker 1: actually second King did it for but I had, like 457 00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:28,840 Speaker 1: you said, I had hip hop on mine. So I 458 00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:31,800 Speaker 1: would definitely do more of that, definitely do more dribble, 459 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:34,240 Speaker 1: hands out, but I'm not facing up and doing all that. Yeah, 460 00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:35,439 Speaker 1: he don't have to go to what I know. 461 00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:38,400 Speaker 3: Yeah you don't have to, but that's my point, right, 462 00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:40,359 Speaker 3: Like when I go back to what I said earlier, 463 00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:44,360 Speaker 3: as the game has evolved, because the game is evolving, 464 00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:46,760 Speaker 3: but it's evolved so much that it's going away from 465 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:50,119 Speaker 3: certain aspects of the game, right. Well, that's why I 466 00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:52,320 Speaker 3: said the basics of the game. The foundation of the 467 00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:54,239 Speaker 3: game is still the same. You still have to be 468 00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:56,240 Speaker 3: able to score on the block if you get the ball. 469 00:22:56,320 --> 00:22:58,280 Speaker 3: You still have to be able to play at the elbow. 470 00:22:58,359 --> 00:22:59,879 Speaker 3: You still have to be able to shoot a three. 471 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:03,159 Speaker 3: These are all the basics of the game. They taking 472 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:06,639 Speaker 3: away two of those basics of the game, the block 473 00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:10,439 Speaker 3: and the mid range. They taking away that because it's space, 474 00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:12,919 Speaker 3: it's paced, it's how fast you could play, it's how 475 00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:15,399 Speaker 3: high you can jump, how many points you could score. 476 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:18,439 Speaker 3: So because of that, you take away from the actual 477 00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:21,600 Speaker 3: true essence of the game of basketball. So that's why 478 00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:25,600 Speaker 3: it's hard for me to say somebody plays or have 479 00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:29,040 Speaker 3: similarities because they don't. They don't operate the same way. 480 00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:33,280 Speaker 3: I can't see nobody in the triangle offense today, you know, 481 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:36,520 Speaker 3: and so and and this is something that I used 482 00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:39,959 Speaker 3: to always have a problem with because I know I 483 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:42,879 Speaker 3: studied the trying so much. It's like, I know, you 484 00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:44,600 Speaker 3: got to have a team to run a triangle. You 485 00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:46,639 Speaker 3: gotta have a post man, you gotta have a guard. 486 00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:49,320 Speaker 2: I know all that. And you know the intricate parts 487 00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:49,600 Speaker 2: of it. 488 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:51,679 Speaker 5: Is it really as brilliant as people say brilliant. 489 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:54,320 Speaker 2: It's one of the most brilliant inventions. 490 00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:56,600 Speaker 1: Because I hear them. 491 00:23:56,960 --> 00:24:00,359 Speaker 3: Thank you text like thank you text because that's one 492 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:02,680 Speaker 3: of the greatest and he's won with it. I only 493 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:06,040 Speaker 3: had the opportunity to experience it, but from the far 494 00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:08,760 Speaker 3: I've experienced it, being a student. 495 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:11,960 Speaker 2: Of the game, I had to learn, damn what like 496 00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:12,840 Speaker 2: what is this? 497 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:13,080 Speaker 1: Like? 498 00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:17,160 Speaker 2: This is immaculate, like you can't stop this. Then once 499 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:18,600 Speaker 2: you get it, it's clockword. 500 00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:20,280 Speaker 3: So that's why I say, who can play in that? 501 00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:22,880 Speaker 3: You don't see a lot of people who could play 502 00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:24,199 Speaker 3: in that type of system. 503 00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:27,119 Speaker 1: Go ahead, please, But what made it more breaking, especially 504 00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:29,440 Speaker 1: when you got two or three guys that go outside 505 00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:32,320 Speaker 1: the system, Because when you talk about the triangle and 506 00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:34,840 Speaker 1: everybody's scouting the triangle, they'll say, Okay, he's gonna do this, 507 00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:36,760 Speaker 1: he's gonna do it, do that. But then when you 508 00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:39,240 Speaker 1: got a guy like me, like, for example, when when 509 00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:41,800 Speaker 1: when the ball goes to the corner, I'm supposed to 510 00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:43,200 Speaker 1: go out for the pick and roll, but I would 511 00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:45,399 Speaker 1: say no, I'm going to repost. Yeah, that's a repost. 512 00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:46,960 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, it's a repost. I throw 513 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:48,840 Speaker 1: it out and a bunch of back people and there 514 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:51,639 Speaker 1: I go. So other guys like you know, will purdue. 515 00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:53,720 Speaker 1: When they throw it out, the guy cuts out and 516 00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:55,320 Speaker 1: they go set the picking wrong for my and then 517 00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:57,600 Speaker 1: you guys got like Kobe, Kobe and Mike at the 518 00:24:57,640 --> 00:24:59,280 Speaker 1: top of the keys saying move and then you go 519 00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:02,639 Speaker 1: to work. That's what really really got us. 520 00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:04,560 Speaker 6: Do you feel like that style of play will ever 521 00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:05,720 Speaker 6: make a comeback? 522 00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:11,960 Speaker 2: It's too for one is too tedious, right. You have 523 00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:15,720 Speaker 2: to teach it. You have to teach every aspect of it. 524 00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:18,879 Speaker 3: And then everybody has to be on one accord and 525 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:21,760 Speaker 3: that it's like you string everybody move at the same time. 526 00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:25,000 Speaker 3: One false move could be a turnover. One false move 527 00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:27,439 Speaker 3: you're out of position, the wrong space, You're out of 528 00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:28,520 Speaker 3: you one foot over. 529 00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:30,520 Speaker 2: You could be out of like It's it's very precise 530 00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:31,720 Speaker 2: like that. 531 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:34,919 Speaker 3: So I just don't see anybody willing to take that 532 00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:39,760 Speaker 3: chance today and put implement that system. You see it 533 00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:41,639 Speaker 3: though San Antonio, what you used to see it was 534 00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:45,800 Speaker 3: San Antonio Golden State. You know they still have triangle 535 00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:50,760 Speaker 3: principles with Golden State. What do you think we've never 536 00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:51,840 Speaker 3: seen nothing like that. 537 00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:53,040 Speaker 5: I never seen anything like that. 538 00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:57,680 Speaker 3: You you've never statistical, never seen any stats. 539 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:03,879 Speaker 1: With legs behind the back step back evolution of the 540 00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:06,560 Speaker 1: game with grace, You've never seen it. 541 00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:08,960 Speaker 5: What was Raymond doing? Why was he Why was he 542 00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:11,160 Speaker 5: guarding them in that play? Why do that to yourself? 543 00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:12,520 Speaker 1: Because you know why? 544 00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:16,000 Speaker 5: I mean, because you know, like being at the Nickelodeon 545 00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:17,280 Speaker 5: Can Choice Awards and you're under the. 546 00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:23,920 Speaker 3: Brob Grandma really is a great post defensive place, great 547 00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:29,680 Speaker 3: like elite post defensive player, right, so he knows nobody's 548 00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:30,840 Speaker 3: going down there to night to night. 549 00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:32,760 Speaker 5: But it was just triggering for me because that's someone 550 00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:33,040 Speaker 5: who was. 551 00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:36,880 Speaker 2: Bothing, triggering for him to be like, now I bring 552 00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:38,080 Speaker 2: over there. 553 00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:39,800 Speaker 5: And then he did the thing, and to also be 554 00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:42,760 Speaker 5: cursed at in French and a foreign language. It's just 555 00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:43,200 Speaker 5: too much. 556 00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:43,639 Speaker 1: It was. 557 00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:45,600 Speaker 5: It was bad, you know what I mean. 558 00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:48,200 Speaker 1: I mean, like I wanted to text him on that player. 559 00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:52,040 Speaker 1: I was like, oh, I mean, but I could respect before. 560 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:56,520 Speaker 5: I mean, you respect him for stepping He's eight feet taller. 561 00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:00,360 Speaker 5: He had the guts to step up. I'm four times 562 00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:04,920 Speaker 5: have the guts to squash a bug. What are you 563 00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:07,159 Speaker 5: talking about because that's the way respect. 564 00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:08,280 Speaker 2: That's the heartbeat. 565 00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:10,040 Speaker 5: Though I respect the heart. 566 00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:10,760 Speaker 2: That's the heart beat. 567 00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:12,480 Speaker 3: You know what I mean, Draymond is the heart beat 568 00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:16,240 Speaker 3: if I show that, Yeah, I get that respect from dreve. 569 00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:18,480 Speaker 5: He's got the full gray and the beard too, full 570 00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:22,600 Speaker 5: mind fighting on you know what I'm saying. 571 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:24,280 Speaker 1: It was a lot you're holding it down. 572 00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:27,000 Speaker 5: It was yeah, okay, I appreciate the insight. 573 00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:30,280 Speaker 1: I've seen you around your son. He's playing phenomenal. By 574 00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:36,119 Speaker 1: the way, thank you my love behind closed doors? And 575 00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:37,399 Speaker 1: does that help with her? 576 00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:42,760 Speaker 3: I was a yeller, but more like, here's why I'm yelling. 577 00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:46,119 Speaker 3: I'm more I yelled than I'll be like, come in, 578 00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:49,760 Speaker 3: let me break it down to you. Here, here's what 579 00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:51,560 Speaker 3: you miss Because you think you got it right, I'm 580 00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:52,840 Speaker 3: gonna show you why you ain't get it right. 581 00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:53,800 Speaker 2: Boom. 582 00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:59,120 Speaker 5: The yelling work on you, because I'm. 583 00:27:57,400 --> 00:28:00,760 Speaker 2: Gonna work on it. Worked on me. That's the only 584 00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:03,720 Speaker 2: way I got disciplined that you knew right from wrong. 585 00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:07,600 Speaker 5: When you have a different temperament. I realized it's it's 586 00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:09,920 Speaker 5: a temperament thing. It's like yelling worked with me too. 587 00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:12,800 Speaker 2: It's differ fear yellows different you. 588 00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:15,320 Speaker 5: Know, throwing shoes, you know, being around this many shoes. 589 00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:18,080 Speaker 5: You guys have me thinking about macam already, Like all right, right, 590 00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:20,600 Speaker 5: I'll do better. Just this many shoes, you know, sandals 591 00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:22,040 Speaker 5: n all that stuff like. 592 00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:24,000 Speaker 1: But but. 593 00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:28,080 Speaker 5: It worked on me. But I had cousins and siblings. 594 00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:29,520 Speaker 5: It didn't like they would shut down. 595 00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:33,359 Speaker 2: No, it worked because you had you. It was a 596 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:35,520 Speaker 2: level of respect that you have for the people that 597 00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:36,320 Speaker 2: was yelling at you. 598 00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:40,760 Speaker 3: Your moms, your aunts, uncles, your grandma's, your great grandma. 599 00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:45,920 Speaker 3: It was generation that was yelling at you now and 600 00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:48,880 Speaker 3: they don't they don't have that. They don't get that, 601 00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:52,480 Speaker 3: you know. They growing up and here on the phone 602 00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:54,640 Speaker 3: and everything is quick, quick, quick, onto the next. 603 00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:57,920 Speaker 2: Well have you done for me lately? Who's hot? Okay, 604 00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:02,000 Speaker 2: he's hot? There, who's not? Who's so? How do you like? 605 00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:05,120 Speaker 5: Because for me as a parent, you're trying to connect. 606 00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:08,800 Speaker 5: I'm trying to connect and convinced like, hey, I'm telling 607 00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:09,080 Speaker 5: you that. 608 00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:10,080 Speaker 1: You know easy. 609 00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:13,600 Speaker 2: I'll tell you what made it easier easier for me 610 00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:18,160 Speaker 2: with my son was he listened right. 611 00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:21,800 Speaker 3: He always was an observer, He was around it, he 612 00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:24,680 Speaker 3: was a sponge and when it came time for me 613 00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:27,560 Speaker 3: to really give him the knowledge of the game. He 614 00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:30,480 Speaker 3: understood it in the sense because he's seen it. He's 615 00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:34,240 Speaker 3: been through it. So he's been through with me going 616 00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:36,480 Speaker 3: through or whatever I went through in adversity, so he 617 00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:38,760 Speaker 3: see he's in the house with me every single day. 618 00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:39,440 Speaker 2: Understand. 619 00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:43,360 Speaker 3: Okay, then man, I don't want to you know, my 620 00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:45,600 Speaker 3: dad ain't gonna How are you gonna respond to this? 621 00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:49,840 Speaker 3: How you gonna respond to shack saying he just like 622 00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:52,520 Speaker 3: you know what I mean, Like how he's done, you know, 623 00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:55,680 Speaker 3: just saying how he's going to respond to the criticism, 624 00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:58,640 Speaker 3: How he's going to respond to losing multiple games and 625 00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:01,440 Speaker 3: come home and sore and hurt and don't feel like 626 00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:04,520 Speaker 3: being bothered, But still got to put the dad hat on, 627 00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:06,840 Speaker 3: like how is he navigating through that? 628 00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:09,440 Speaker 2: And then once it was it came time. 629 00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:13,719 Speaker 3: For basketball, the level of respect was there, and now 630 00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:16,000 Speaker 3: I could just teach, Okay, you ready, you let me 631 00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:16,680 Speaker 3: know when you're ready. 632 00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:17,760 Speaker 2: You come to me. When you're ready. 633 00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:21,480 Speaker 3: You can go play baseball, you can go swim, do 634 00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:23,840 Speaker 3: whatever the hell you want to do. When you're ready 635 00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:27,000 Speaker 3: to talk basketball, I'm right here for you. 636 00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:29,320 Speaker 6: I want to give you your flowers because You've definitely 637 00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:32,040 Speaker 6: raised a great kid. He's been doing some really amazing 638 00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:34,440 Speaker 6: things at Syracuse from what I've seen so far, I'm 639 00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:37,280 Speaker 6: curious to know from your perspective. You know, he's obviously 640 00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:40,160 Speaker 6: falling in your footsteps at the university. What has been 641 00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:44,240 Speaker 6: the most fulfilling thing seeing him there building his own name. 642 00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:47,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, the most fulfilling thing is it's just what you said, 643 00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:52,560 Speaker 3: just for one seeing seeing him put the q's jersey on, 644 00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:55,760 Speaker 3: It's like, damn, well, you you sat in that same seat. 645 00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:57,960 Speaker 3: I know the same feeling that you have. Time you 646 00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:00,720 Speaker 3: sneak up getting ready to run out that tunnel. Some 647 00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:03,080 Speaker 3: of the same fans are still there, you know now 648 00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:04,920 Speaker 3: they just you know, they old it because it's kindage 649 00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:08,840 Speaker 3: just community. Ain't noth there in Syracuse but but us. Right, 650 00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:14,320 Speaker 3: So you're getting the residual effects of fan bases, grandmothers, 651 00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:16,280 Speaker 3: the grandkids, and all of that that comes to the 652 00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:19,080 Speaker 3: game as a family outing. So when you run out 653 00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:21,240 Speaker 3: there in that tunnel and you walk on that court, 654 00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:23,960 Speaker 3: that's when I was like, damn, like he like this 655 00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:26,720 Speaker 3: don't even feel right, this is this is surreal. But 656 00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:27,560 Speaker 3: don't you see him. 657 00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:32,560 Speaker 2: Go play good? It's like holy like we okay, work, 658 00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:36,280 Speaker 2: we're here now, Okay, this is okay, let's focus on 659 00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:36,760 Speaker 2: this now. 660 00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:40,080 Speaker 8: Are these the new Shacklicious gummies? 661 00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:42,720 Speaker 1: Yep, new fund shapes and players out now. 662 00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:45,000 Speaker 8: And they're shaped like your actual shoes. 663 00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:48,680 Speaker 1: Exactly Excel Sweets meets Excel Style. But wait, there's more. 664 00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:54,960 Speaker 7: We have actual Shacklicious sneakers that go with the Shacklicious gummy. 665 00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:57,080 Speaker 1: That's right, So now everyone can walk a mile in 666 00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:00,320 Speaker 1: my shoes and then eat them afterwards. Yep, eat my 667 00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:04,600 Speaker 1: shoes and bite my head off. And they taste good too, 668 00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:07,800 Speaker 1: really good from the fields of it. Let's go. Two 669 00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:10,640 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty years of tequila making tradition have led 670 00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:11,320 Speaker 1: up to this. 671 00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:15,760 Speaker 8: Luna Zoo puts tradition above trends and brings. 672 00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:18,040 Speaker 7: Out the best of all of your favorite tequila. 673 00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:21,520 Speaker 1: Contails, like the Big Pile Poloma ooh, crafted. 674 00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:24,640 Speaker 7: With pride for what's inside, one hundred percent blue Weber 675 00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:27,040 Speaker 7: agave and no extras diesel. 676 00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:28,800 Speaker 1: This is looking pretty good. Yeah, you don't have to 677 00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:30,600 Speaker 1: make me one of those two. If the Big Pile 678 00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:33,680 Speaker 1: Poloma may with Lunazool tequila, and of course it's gonna 679 00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:33,960 Speaker 1: be good. 680 00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:36,520 Speaker 2: Ooo, it's nice. 681 00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:44,720 Speaker 1: Thank you, It's phenomenal. Those who know look to Luna 682 00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:46,000 Speaker 1: Luna Zool. 683 00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:49,600 Speaker 7: Tequila, Barnestown, Kentucky, forty percent alcohol by volume. 684 00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:52,000 Speaker 5: Think wisely, drink wisely. 685 00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:53,280 Speaker 1: I'm gonna take two. 686 00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:54,200 Speaker 2: Oh gosh. 687 00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:57,479 Speaker 1: You know, I've been watching for a long time, obviously 688 00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:00,240 Speaker 1: seeing when you first came in and what you in 689 00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:03,960 Speaker 1: now as a businessman, that transition that you made. What's 690 00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:07,040 Speaker 1: the most difficulty from playing to being a businessman? 691 00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:10,479 Speaker 2: Full patience in business? 692 00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:14,160 Speaker 3: You as you know, it's it takes a lot of patients, 693 00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:19,640 Speaker 3: it takes a lot of intentionality, it takes a lot 694 00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:23,360 Speaker 3: of strategy and also where with all on who you are, 695 00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:25,320 Speaker 3: what you want to do, and what lanes you want 696 00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:29,400 Speaker 3: to with industries you want to get into. Playing in 697 00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:33,960 Speaker 3: the game was red react. You know you got to rereact. Okay, 698 00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:36,960 Speaker 3: boom react, read boom, won't make this. It's like on 699 00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:40,160 Speaker 3: to the next It's you know, you gotta try to 700 00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:43,280 Speaker 3: beat forty teams, I mean thirty teams out there, you know. 701 00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:46,400 Speaker 3: So it's like you always read and reacting when the 702 00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:52,800 Speaker 3: business world, the transition allowed me to just okay, to 703 00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:54,840 Speaker 3: read and react. I still got to keep that I 704 00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:57,840 Speaker 3: still got to keep what I know from sports. But 705 00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:01,600 Speaker 3: also let me just be patient. Let me let me, 706 00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:03,880 Speaker 3: let me, let me take my time and and and 707 00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:07,280 Speaker 3: read this business plan right, let me let. 708 00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:09,160 Speaker 2: Me break it down. Let me let me see if 709 00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:12,200 Speaker 2: I have the patience right and wherewithal to do that? 710 00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:14,360 Speaker 5: When did you know you were going to be a mogul, 711 00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:18,000 Speaker 5: bro You've been a mogo since. 712 00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:24,480 Speaker 1: I didn't know. I still don't know my thing is. 713 00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:29,040 Speaker 1: And I see Bailey's mother here, and I come remember 714 00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:31,440 Speaker 1: one time, me and my mother going to a Christmas 715 00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:34,400 Speaker 1: party and I'm looking at the people at night, and 716 00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:37,320 Speaker 1: I see one lady say to another one she wears 717 00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:40,480 Speaker 1: that every Christmas party, which is true, Mama had one 718 00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:44,080 Speaker 1: outfit so ever since they're young. So I'm like whatever, 719 00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:48,280 Speaker 1: and like I was like, I would always start off, Mama, 720 00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:51,480 Speaker 1: whenever I get some money, I'm going to and doesn't 721 00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:54,120 Speaker 1: matter how our landish the dream was. She would say, 722 00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:57,759 Speaker 1: I know, baby, so for me. And then my father, 723 00:34:57,880 --> 00:34:59,600 Speaker 1: on the other hand, said if you don't play, well, 724 00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:03,320 Speaker 1: we don't. So now when I'm getting all this money, 725 00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:06,400 Speaker 1: then he you see this player, he lost hundred mad, 726 00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:10,160 Speaker 1: Let's play lost with the man. The fear forced me 727 00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:13,080 Speaker 1: to say, damn, if I end up on this list, 728 00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:16,839 Speaker 1: lose my mama house. So the fear has always kept 729 00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:20,560 Speaker 1: me going, like people see all this and thinking about 730 00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:22,400 Speaker 1: the money. Now it's about being able to give the 731 00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:25,480 Speaker 1: woman that gave me everything whatever she wanted. I just 732 00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:27,520 Speaker 1: brought her her first Louis Presst a couple months ago 733 00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:30,960 Speaker 1: and she loved it. But that that day right there 734 00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:33,279 Speaker 1: pissed me off because you know, my mom and dad 735 00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:37,239 Speaker 1: used to sacrifice everything for my beat. You know, you 736 00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:38,120 Speaker 1: know I see the ladies. 737 00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:40,080 Speaker 5: You're also the king of the side quest. 738 00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:41,160 Speaker 1: Yes, I am. 739 00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:47,960 Speaker 5: Police officer. 740 00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:51,719 Speaker 2: You know why. 741 00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:55,960 Speaker 3: You know why I love it because like you as 742 00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:57,960 Speaker 3: an athlete, as a ball player, right, you get a 743 00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:00,279 Speaker 3: chance to for so long we've been stuck now with 744 00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:03,439 Speaker 3: box shut up and dribble and you just go play 745 00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:06,480 Speaker 3: your sport and you can do nothing but play basketball. 746 00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:09,759 Speaker 2: Right, and now he kicked the door open for that. 747 00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:11,840 Speaker 3: He kicked the door open if we want to go 748 00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:14,279 Speaker 3: do movies, if we want to do music, like he 749 00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:16,360 Speaker 3: showed you how to do it at a at a 750 00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:20,120 Speaker 3: high level. You talk about these movies that was cultural 751 00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:24,080 Speaker 3: movies at the time. You're talking about he got one 752 00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:27,880 Speaker 3: of the greatest verses with Biggie, like it's like this, like, so. 753 00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:31,640 Speaker 1: Be honest, did you like the movie because you ain't 754 00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:32,840 Speaker 1: gona hurt my feelings? Be honest? 755 00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:38,560 Speaker 2: Later later later, I like it later, I like it 756 00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:42,399 Speaker 2: later even more. I'll met you now you put. 757 00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:47,759 Speaker 5: My mom rented that from Blockbuster. We love that. The 758 00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:49,879 Speaker 5: French toasting. You go like this with the French toast. 759 00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:53,000 Speaker 5: You make it do a v over. It goes over 760 00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:55,200 Speaker 5: Mom's butt, then it does the wys X square. Come on, bro, 761 00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:56,000 Speaker 5: this is comedy. 762 00:36:57,160 --> 00:36:59,719 Speaker 1: Cry You're gonna make me cry. I love it. 763 00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:05,879 Speaker 5: Come on, bro, and you let these people slander Sam? 764 00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:07,960 Speaker 5: How dare that? I mean? Steele was all right, but 765 00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:11,680 Speaker 5: come on, man. And then when when when he was 766 00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:14,480 Speaker 5: like I want junk food, you want junk food, and 767 00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:15,879 Speaker 5: you make it? Come on, man, I'm. 768 00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:17,120 Speaker 2: Still he was having too much fun. 769 00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:20,719 Speaker 1: You can tell where he was at. 770 00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:29,400 Speaker 5: You know, you're good at you. He's good at a 771 00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:31,200 Speaker 5: lot of things. That's the unfair part. 772 00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:34,440 Speaker 2: But I love I love the side question. You know 773 00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:34,799 Speaker 2: what I mean? 774 00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:38,960 Speaker 3: Because when you build it, it's like, man, as long 775 00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:42,080 Speaker 3: as it makes sense, he could do a million things, 776 00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:44,400 Speaker 3: long as it it makes sense. 777 00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:46,640 Speaker 5: As you guys a question about the coaches thing, because 778 00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:50,160 Speaker 5: on both podcasts, you guys have aired out how you 779 00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:59,360 Speaker 5: felt about obviously pat Riley, George carl U what Phil Jackson. 780 00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:03,960 Speaker 1: I didn't hear how you felt about coach call? 781 00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:06,280 Speaker 2: We could we got. 782 00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:13,239 Speaker 5: Peace? God no, but actually be over there. But the 783 00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:17,200 Speaker 5: real question is the when when do you know it's 784 00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:20,239 Speaker 5: time to all right, let me close this chapter, or 785 00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:23,919 Speaker 5: let me let me tell my story about this versus 786 00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:25,600 Speaker 5: just like let me I'm not even gonna talk about it. 787 00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:28,719 Speaker 2: It's time and is everything when? When? 788 00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:34,280 Speaker 3: When there's when you have stories, then you have truth. 789 00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:37,240 Speaker 3: You ain't in no rush to get to the truth. 790 00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:38,200 Speaker 1: M hm. 791 00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:43,560 Speaker 3: He had stories. I have the truth. I've never spoken 792 00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:47,200 Speaker 3: knowing it. I've never said anything to nobody. I took 793 00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:49,920 Speaker 3: the shots whatever came with it. 794 00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:50,719 Speaker 1: I hated drink. 795 00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:53,839 Speaker 2: Coach called Phil. 796 00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:59,080 Speaker 3: I'm about you talking about Phil and and and my 797 00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:01,440 Speaker 3: thing about that, And this is what why I say, 798 00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:02,400 Speaker 3: you know, let me close this. 799 00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:06,680 Speaker 2: I never knew that. I don't Phil got beef, I 800 00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:09,320 Speaker 2: ain't got no he's actually he's actually. 801 00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:15,040 Speaker 5: To your credit, you've always seek to find common ground. 802 00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:17,680 Speaker 2: Thank you, and so to reach out to people like 803 00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:18,560 Speaker 2: how you deal with this? 804 00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:21,040 Speaker 1: How you different? 805 00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:24,040 Speaker 5: Well, I wanted to ask you philosophically how you feel 806 00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:26,399 Speaker 5: about this, because as a fan, I would see what's 807 00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:28,080 Speaker 5: happening with you guys. Then he would drop a book 808 00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:29,360 Speaker 5: telling a story about you. 809 00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:31,960 Speaker 3: Let me get a difference. I would have a different perspective. 810 00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:35,600 Speaker 3: Right if I was sitting in his seat right in 811 00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:40,680 Speaker 3: the seat of Phil was my coach. He coached me, right, 812 00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:43,000 Speaker 3: So if you want me to do something, you can 813 00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:45,440 Speaker 3: coach me through it. You can bring it to my attention, 814 00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:48,520 Speaker 3: you can break it down because you are coaching the game. 815 00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:52,000 Speaker 3: So I respect you as the coach of the game. 816 00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:58,280 Speaker 3: You're the president of the team talking about the team. 817 00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:02,200 Speaker 3: And if you talking about the team and the team 818 00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:06,120 Speaker 3: is not good, then who does the bullets go to 819 00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:09,799 Speaker 3: the guy who wears a white hat on the team. 820 00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:14,680 Speaker 3: Because it's an easier escapegoal to point me out than 821 00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:17,439 Speaker 3: it is to just say and man up and say, 822 00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:20,799 Speaker 3: you know what, my tenure here wasn't great at all. 823 00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:24,400 Speaker 3: Had tenure I should have came down there and coach. 824 00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:25,960 Speaker 2: That was my only thing. 825 00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:28,239 Speaker 3: So to close, you know, I bought it back for 826 00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:31,120 Speaker 3: a circle like. Look, I never had two conversations with 827 00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:33,160 Speaker 3: you ever in six vice five years. 828 00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:37,719 Speaker 5: Yes, it's a very strange power. It's weird. It's a 829 00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:38,560 Speaker 5: very strange thing. 830 00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:41,440 Speaker 3: If you was my coach, if you came down. I 831 00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:44,840 Speaker 3: think I said this back then. I said, listen, I 832 00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:47,640 Speaker 3: would want nothing more than Phil Jackson to come out 833 00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:51,160 Speaker 3: the front office and he should coach this team. He 834 00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:55,040 Speaker 3: should coach this team. You can't give uh. 835 00:40:57,000 --> 00:41:01,360 Speaker 2: Derek Fisher and throw him under the bus like that. 836 00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:05,400 Speaker 3: You can't do that. And de Fish is my guy now, 837 00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:07,480 Speaker 3: he's my colleague, you know, I mean right now. But 838 00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:10,239 Speaker 3: you can't do that at that point in time. 839 00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:14,600 Speaker 1: And I didn't look at it from that perspective. Very 840 00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:18,879 Speaker 1: very interesting and great take. I when I first met 841 00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:21,360 Speaker 1: Field and he coached me, so I didn't think of 842 00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:23,839 Speaker 1: like you said. So that was that was a great 843 00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:28,520 Speaker 1: point right there. Because of his resume. I just I 844 00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:31,320 Speaker 1: just shut up because of his resume. 845 00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:34,319 Speaker 5: So but then you pick up like a book at 846 00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:36,040 Speaker 5: Hudson Newstand and be like, why is he saying this 847 00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:39,040 Speaker 5: about me? But how crazy it is to be at 848 00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:40,440 Speaker 5: an airport and be like, damn, I didn't know you 849 00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:40,879 Speaker 5: felt that way. 850 00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:43,640 Speaker 1: By My thing was, you know, Carmelo was the pressure 851 00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:47,239 Speaker 1: of being great. But then people throw in your face 852 00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:51,120 Speaker 1: you haven't won. Yeah, so out of all the superstars, 853 00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:54,839 Speaker 1: I probably have the most sweeps out of all superstars, right, 854 00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:59,120 Speaker 1: I've best swept five times. So it was the pressure 855 00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:01,960 Speaker 1: was adding up. So now when I said Phil's coming, 856 00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:05,720 Speaker 1: I was like, I'm going to shut up and listening 857 00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:08,160 Speaker 1: because what I'm doing and all these other guys ain't working. 858 00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:11,040 Speaker 1: And but from from day one, I know he was 859 00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:13,920 Speaker 1: a psychological guy because he because he used to do 860 00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:17,160 Speaker 1: the same dump my father mem me though. So first 861 00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:20,920 Speaker 1: time get to his house, he opened the door, he said, hey, 862 00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:22,720 Speaker 1: I need you to move that log to that island, 863 00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:27,279 Speaker 1: and he shuts the door and I'm looking at some 864 00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:29,920 Speaker 1: big log on the thing and alands over there. He 865 00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:32,320 Speaker 1: wanted me to jump in the cold water with his 866 00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:36,440 Speaker 1: son and swim pushed the log to the thing. So 867 00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:40,320 Speaker 1: I'm saying to myself, like, okay, my daddy used to 868 00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:42,480 Speaker 1: do this. Hey, go outside and ranked the leaves and 869 00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:44,520 Speaker 1: raked the neighbor's leaves and rank the neighbor leaves and 870 00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:47,359 Speaker 1: you got two hours to do it. I said, okay, 871 00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:50,440 Speaker 1: So I did it. That water was cold and I 872 00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:52,920 Speaker 1: almost died When I jumped in that wall. I had 873 00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:54,720 Speaker 1: to take my clothes off. It was just my drawers 874 00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:56,600 Speaker 1: and the tank top free. But I did it, and 875 00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:58,760 Speaker 1: then we came in and we're going to talk. He said, Okay, 876 00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:01,919 Speaker 1: you passed the first chess, and you told me. He said, 877 00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:04,200 Speaker 1: if you would have gave me about moving and luck, 878 00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:05,960 Speaker 1: I wouldn't have coach, But I'm hearing a lot of 879 00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:08,400 Speaker 1: things about you and Kobe, but you're the guy. I 880 00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:10,880 Speaker 1: want to see how you are. So he didn't know 881 00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:13,279 Speaker 1: that I grew up in that type of background, so 882 00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:16,720 Speaker 1: my relationship would feel different. But your other coach called, 883 00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:20,319 Speaker 1: I hated up. Yeah, do a long time. 884 00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:22,080 Speaker 6: Can you guys explain why? Though? 885 00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:25,440 Speaker 1: Okay, so my Allstar Game, I'm coming up. They double 886 00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:31,200 Speaker 1: trip between me and all Sucker. Like I'm like, because. 887 00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:37,160 Speaker 3: Man, different, it was a different Old Star game back then, 888 00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:38,920 Speaker 3: you know, double team people in all song. 889 00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:43,440 Speaker 5: It's so fascinating what triggers you, bro. It's so interesting, 890 00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:45,040 Speaker 5: Like it's a very interesting. 891 00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:50,680 Speaker 1: Get on my space because interesting because doing our doing 892 00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:54,960 Speaker 1: our regular season, we got to do our regular Also, 893 00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:57,400 Speaker 1: I was like, one or two times just let me 894 00:43:57,560 --> 00:44:00,640 Speaker 1: in and out pull it show. I wanted to do it, 895 00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:03,840 Speaker 1: and he double I got a basketball. I never did 896 00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:05,800 Speaker 1: like him after that, and I didn't like how you 897 00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:07,239 Speaker 1: treated you. I didn't like that. 898 00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:10,520 Speaker 2: My story was. 899 00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:12,200 Speaker 5: He's aired it out on the podcast. 900 00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:13,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, but in a nutshell, right. 901 00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:20,000 Speaker 3: My story is a young black basketball player coming from 902 00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:24,360 Speaker 3: a very specific place, coming from the hood, getting to 903 00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:28,759 Speaker 3: a Denver Nuggets organization, having the way, the white hat 904 00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:30,240 Speaker 3: being thrown the keys, and telling. 905 00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:33,120 Speaker 2: Hey, go win me a championship at nineteen twenty years old, right, So. 906 00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:33,920 Speaker 1: That was part of it. 907 00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:36,719 Speaker 2: That Now you get an older coach who. 908 00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:41,120 Speaker 3: Is very traditional my way or the highway cut from 909 00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:44,960 Speaker 3: a different coaching clone, right from Dean Smith, North Carolina, 910 00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:48,560 Speaker 3: like he's he come from basketball royalty. But then now 911 00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:52,920 Speaker 3: you're that knowledge in your personality just does not match, 912 00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:56,160 Speaker 3: and you don't know how to relate to that young 913 00:44:56,400 --> 00:44:57,880 Speaker 3: nineteen twenty year. 914 00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:00,399 Speaker 2: Black kid Denver. 915 00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:03,680 Speaker 6: Yeah, location matters for sure. 916 00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:08,000 Speaker 2: That a nutshell without airing him out, right. 917 00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:11,520 Speaker 6: So y'all share some more story when it comes to coaches, 918 00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:14,680 Speaker 6: But I've heard y'all also share some more Stevie Wonders story. 919 00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:18,200 Speaker 5: He probably got way more Stevie wonder stories than not 920 00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:19,200 Speaker 5: in Stevie Wonder story. 921 00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:24,080 Speaker 1: So we lived in the same building in Wiltshire. The 922 00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:30,680 Speaker 1: valet was downstairs underground, so Stevie's already in elevator. I 923 00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:33,840 Speaker 1: parked my car and open the door and I get in. 924 00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:40,439 Speaker 1: What's up, Diesel, he spoke. I'm like, Then he hits 925 00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:40,960 Speaker 1: his floor. 926 00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:45,400 Speaker 5: Then he like, are you saying, Stevie Wonder saw you? 927 00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:46,440 Speaker 5: Is that what you're telling me? 928 00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:53,200 Speaker 1: This or this is it's the truth. But but the 929 00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:55,440 Speaker 1: curry thing every time he's telling me that went up, Diesel, 930 00:45:55,960 --> 00:45:58,920 Speaker 1: the game last night, Diesel, Diesel, keep your me like 931 00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:04,200 Speaker 1: he's like he always he would always speak first, like 932 00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:06,279 Speaker 1: I was like, he could be he could be waiting 933 00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:09,439 Speaker 1: at all. I see your Diesel with your big like yeah, 934 00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:10,600 Speaker 1: I'm just you. 935 00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:12,719 Speaker 5: Weren't breathing heavy or anything like you weren't coming in 936 00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:15,920 Speaker 5: with shack sleep apne or whatever regular brea. 937 00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:18,719 Speaker 2: No. 938 00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:23,840 Speaker 5: Oh, So what's your Stevie Wonder story? You just you 939 00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:26,040 Speaker 5: met him at a fundraiser or something like. That's a 940 00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:27,360 Speaker 5: great Stevie Wonder tell you. 941 00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:33,840 Speaker 2: I'm laughing because I know that he really be knowing, like. 942 00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:37,880 Speaker 1: He really be. 943 00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:40,560 Speaker 2: My spin is just all Star Weekend in the back. 944 00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:42,480 Speaker 1: We in the whole way. 945 00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:47,279 Speaker 3: And you know they when the artists come to the 946 00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:49,880 Speaker 3: locker room and the tunnel got clear way for the 947 00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:52,960 Speaker 3: artists all Star weekend. So they were saying Stevie was 948 00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:56,960 Speaker 3: coming to. Stevie comes to and he's just like, hey, man, 949 00:46:57,000 --> 00:46:57,680 Speaker 3: I love your game. 950 00:46:57,800 --> 00:47:01,480 Speaker 2: Love watching you play. And I'm like I'm just like, 951 00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:04,200 Speaker 2: thank you, man. And then it dawned on me, like, 952 00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:11,279 Speaker 2: oh love watching you play. Yeah, what I do points 953 00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:14,759 Speaker 2: I had last night? Come on with Stevie. I mean 954 00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:17,560 Speaker 2: so many points I scored last night, twenty eight you know. 955 00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:18,719 Speaker 1: I get the copy here. 956 00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:23,080 Speaker 5: And now it's time for Guess that Price, the game 957 00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:26,160 Speaker 5: show segment sponsored by our friends at jac Penny, who 958 00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:28,680 Speaker 5: have incredible gifts for everyone this holiday season at prices 959 00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:31,439 Speaker 5: that wow. Because of jac Penny, it's what they thought 960 00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:34,359 Speaker 5: that counts. Here's how the game is played. I will 961 00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:36,600 Speaker 5: reveal the item and the original retail price, and you 962 00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:39,719 Speaker 5: will tell me. Each of you will tell me how 963 00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:41,960 Speaker 5: much you think this item costs on sale at j 964 00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:46,120 Speaker 5: C Penny. The closest guest Wins's start with the Mia 965 00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:50,680 Speaker 5: Girl merlel women's slip on slippers. These is the kind 966 00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:52,959 Speaker 5: of every day essential you don't realize you need until 967 00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:54,480 Speaker 5: you put them on. These slippers are soft, the fit 968 00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:56,439 Speaker 5: is easy, and the slip on design makes them perfect 969 00:47:56,480 --> 00:47:57,719 Speaker 5: for the nonce rorhythm of home life. 970 00:47:57,760 --> 00:47:58,319 Speaker 2: But here's the twist. 971 00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:00,480 Speaker 5: These aren't just inside slippers, the durable So what's you 972 00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:03,839 Speaker 5: step outside without thinking twice without sacrificing comfort. Retail pice 973 00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:04,719 Speaker 5: is fifty dollars. 974 00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:05,960 Speaker 1: Twenty nine ninety nine. 975 00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:07,520 Speaker 2: Retail is fifty. 976 00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:11,440 Speaker 5: Dollars fifty dollars. But this is on sale now thirty 977 00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:14,600 Speaker 5: two Melo, you are the closest. The answer is thirty 978 00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:15,240 Speaker 5: seven to fifty. 979 00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:18,240 Speaker 1: Let's go made you get to keep? Are yours? 980 00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:22,120 Speaker 5: This is Shacks XLG men's shortly regular fit big and 981 00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:25,880 Speaker 5: tall button down shirt. Another standout from Shacks the collection 982 00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:29,000 Speaker 5: with Jac Penny, where the mission is simple, big and 983 00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:34,880 Speaker 5: tall style, uncompromised, versatile, dependable. Original retail pice fifty five dollars. 984 00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:35,799 Speaker 2: This is a great beach way. 985 00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:38,319 Speaker 1: Since I own I already know it's twenty four ninety nine, I. 986 00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:39,560 Speaker 2: Want to say twenty ninety nine. 987 00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:42,640 Speaker 5: The answer is sixteen dollars and forty nine cents. 988 00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:44,719 Speaker 2: Hell of a Christmas gift, right, that's a deal. 989 00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:46,360 Speaker 5: Right here, Jack, You're a man. You're a man of 990 00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:46,719 Speaker 5: the people. 991 00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:50,400 Speaker 1: This episode is sponsored by j C. Penny. Let me 992 00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:52,480 Speaker 1: ask you something, how do you get everybody on your 993 00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:55,239 Speaker 1: gift for list looking at you like, whoa shack? How 994 00:48:55,320 --> 00:48:57,440 Speaker 1: did you pull that off? Let me tell you a 995 00:48:57,480 --> 00:49:00,319 Speaker 1: big shack secert over here on the big pot where 996 00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:02,480 Speaker 1: you know we always do it big. You hit up 997 00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:02,759 Speaker 1: j C. 998 00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:03,240 Speaker 2: Penny. 999 00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:05,960 Speaker 1: Yes, j C Penny. Me and j C Penny go 1000 00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:08,800 Speaker 1: way back, and they always have what I need for 1001 00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:11,239 Speaker 1: the family. They call me shack a clause for a reagion. 1002 00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:13,600 Speaker 1: You know, I'm a reebuy guy, and of course I 1003 00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:16,120 Speaker 1: put myself up and my crew up with some rebound. 1004 00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:19,359 Speaker 1: They also need jewelry to make everyone go crazy. Oh 1005 00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:23,160 Speaker 1: I see some Nicholces I need and fragrances a muss 1006 00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:27,600 Speaker 1: especially my new shock XLG fragrance and also anything last minute. 1007 00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:31,200 Speaker 1: JCP has everything you need score big just in time 1008 00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:33,839 Speaker 1: for the holidays, like that last minute slam dunk good 1009 00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:36,920 Speaker 1: for your mama. Remember that's what they thought. That counts. 1010 00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:42,000 Speaker 1: Shout JCP dot com. Yes, Jcpenny. This episode is sponsored 1011 00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:46,120 Speaker 1: by Zip Recruiter starting a business starting podcasts. I know 1012 00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:48,920 Speaker 1: the hardships. A lot more roles go into this podcast 1013 00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:52,759 Speaker 1: than you might realize. The producers, the editors, social team, 1014 00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:55,880 Speaker 1: the video team, the sales team, you name it. And 1015 00:49:55,960 --> 00:49:57,799 Speaker 1: if you need to hire for your business and want 1016 00:49:57,840 --> 00:50:00,960 Speaker 1: an easier way to find qualify candid dates, head to 1017 00:50:01,040 --> 00:50:03,680 Speaker 1: ZipRecruiter and right now you could try it for free 1018 00:50:03,719 --> 00:50:05,759 Speaker 1: at ZipRecruiter dot com slash big. 1019 00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:09,239 Speaker 7: Thankfully there's a place you can go for help ZipRecruiter. 1020 00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:12,840 Speaker 7: ZipRecruiter does the work for you to make hiring fast 1021 00:50:13,120 --> 00:50:15,680 Speaker 7: and easy, and right now you can try it for 1022 00:50:16,040 --> 00:50:18,040 Speaker 7: free at ZipRecruiter dot. 1023 00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:21,040 Speaker 1: Com slash big. You knew it was going to be big. 1024 00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:26,280 Speaker 7: Ziprecruiters smart technology identifies top talent for your roles quickly, 1025 00:50:26,600 --> 00:50:29,439 Speaker 7: as quick as Shack can get a new business deal going, 1026 00:50:30,520 --> 00:50:33,799 Speaker 7: just got another one. Immediately after you post your job, 1027 00:50:34,120 --> 00:50:39,520 Speaker 7: Ziprecruiter's powerful matching technology starts showing you qualify people forward again. 1028 00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:42,359 Speaker 7: That is ZipRecruiter dot com, Slash Big. 1029 00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:47,160 Speaker 1: Experience faster, easier hiring with ZipRecruiter. Here's to a new 1030 00:50:47,239 --> 00:50:50,120 Speaker 1: year of hiring made easy with the ZipRecruiter. Four out 1031 00:50:50,120 --> 00:50:52,760 Speaker 1: of five employees who post on ZipRecruiter get a quality 1032 00:50:52,840 --> 00:50:55,560 Speaker 1: candidate within the first day. Try it for free at 1033 00:50:55,600 --> 00:51:00,280 Speaker 1: this exclusive web address, ZipRecruiter dot com slash big again 1034 00:51:00,560 --> 00:51:04,960 Speaker 1: the ZipRecruiter dot com slash big. ZipRecruiter the smartest way 1035 00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:05,359 Speaker 1: to hire. 1036 00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:07,839 Speaker 5: All right, Hey, listen, I have a question. You guys 1037 00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:09,960 Speaker 5: get asked this question all the time, Mount Rushmore, but 1038 00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:12,480 Speaker 5: this is I think. What I think is so beautiful 1039 00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:14,840 Speaker 5: about what's happening in basketball right now is as fans 1040 00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:18,480 Speaker 5: of the sport, you guys are are adding your documentaries 1041 00:51:18,520 --> 00:51:21,040 Speaker 5: to the blockchain. You see that with Court of Gold 1042 00:51:21,120 --> 00:51:22,560 Speaker 5: and all that stuff. I have a request for you, 1043 00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:26,000 Speaker 5: mister Onia. Yes, Carmelo obviously gave you your flowers or 1044 00:51:26,040 --> 00:51:27,680 Speaker 5: what you meant to him and what you meant to 1045 00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:31,280 Speaker 5: my generation. Would you ever while the while you Jedi 1046 00:51:31,360 --> 00:51:33,960 Speaker 5: are still alive, I would love this as masters of 1047 00:51:34,040 --> 00:51:37,040 Speaker 5: the center, will you ever do a Mount Rushmore with 1048 00:51:37,160 --> 00:51:40,759 Speaker 5: you a Kim Elijah one and Kareem Abdul Jabbar and 1049 00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:45,440 Speaker 5: have a full conversation to break down the craft. 1050 00:51:46,160 --> 00:51:48,040 Speaker 1: I would love to work. That's a great idea. 1051 00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:51,919 Speaker 5: What you what you guys, I'll host it, I would 1052 00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:56,319 Speaker 5: be Can I tell you why your idea, what uh, 1053 00:51:56,800 --> 00:51:59,520 Speaker 5: what you brought in terms of power, what Kareem brought 1054 00:51:59,520 --> 00:52:04,600 Speaker 5: in terms of cerebral and somehow a Keem was both 1055 00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:11,080 Speaker 5: of these things. And Nigeria a foreign land that hadn't 1056 00:52:11,160 --> 00:52:13,960 Speaker 5: sent a prospect. Like, guys are all this thing and 1057 00:52:14,680 --> 00:52:17,920 Speaker 5: I'm not trying to get I'm getting to an age 1058 00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:20,239 Speaker 5: where people are starting to die. And I think it's 1059 00:52:20,320 --> 00:52:28,200 Speaker 5: important that, Yeah, you guys put out uninterrupted knowledge dump 1060 00:52:28,360 --> 00:52:30,799 Speaker 5: of what you guys put into the culture and into 1061 00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:33,319 Speaker 5: the world into the blockchain. I think we'd all humbled on. 1062 00:52:33,360 --> 00:52:33,719 Speaker 2: It by that. 1063 00:52:33,880 --> 00:52:36,799 Speaker 1: And I'll let you give you my word. I'll set 1064 00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:39,680 Speaker 1: it up. And one thing about me is I'm a 1065 00:52:39,719 --> 00:52:42,120 Speaker 1: team player. Your idea so ill. 1066 00:52:44,560 --> 00:52:46,640 Speaker 2: And that's where I come at in the game, like 1067 00:52:47,920 --> 00:52:52,920 Speaker 2: being at the bridge, right, But what. 1068 00:52:55,280 --> 00:52:56,480 Speaker 5: I could you guys? 1069 00:52:56,600 --> 00:53:01,040 Speaker 3: I could connect Yeah, some multiple generations that was before 1070 00:53:01,080 --> 00:53:05,640 Speaker 3: me and now I could connect to multiple generations that's 1071 00:53:06,080 --> 00:53:09,440 Speaker 3: here and to come. So we need more of that, 1072 00:53:09,800 --> 00:53:12,680 Speaker 3: like I would I would love to see the round 1073 00:53:12,760 --> 00:53:15,759 Speaker 3: table with you know, with the like I'm watching, like 1074 00:53:15,880 --> 00:53:17,279 Speaker 3: I'm dialed into that. 1075 00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:19,800 Speaker 2: We don't do it. We don't do enough of that 1076 00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:22,920 Speaker 2: and our and our sports. 1077 00:53:22,640 --> 00:53:25,320 Speaker 5: It's like it happened with the NBA seventy five and 1078 00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:26,640 Speaker 5: then it just kind of dispersed. 1079 00:53:27,440 --> 00:53:31,839 Speaker 2: I was different. Yeah, that's the room, that's the ego room, 1080 00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:33,800 Speaker 2: that's the pride. You know what I mean. You signed 1081 00:53:34,160 --> 00:53:36,840 Speaker 2: up in there like, oh, I. 1082 00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:39,680 Speaker 1: Don't know, speaking a mount Rushmore. Give me your amount 1083 00:53:39,800 --> 00:53:43,680 Speaker 1: rushmore of top and BA scores right now. No, just 1084 00:53:43,800 --> 00:53:49,480 Speaker 1: your your mount Rushmore man Man four four greatest all times. 1085 00:53:51,680 --> 00:53:54,239 Speaker 1: I know I'm not on that list because I was 1086 00:53:54,520 --> 00:53:56,000 Speaker 1: a prolific m F score. 1087 00:53:56,080 --> 00:54:00,600 Speaker 2: You're the most, you're the most didn't score. 1088 00:54:01,600 --> 00:54:03,080 Speaker 1: I'm not listen. I not listen. 1089 00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:06,840 Speaker 3: I know it was my five, you and my five. No, no, 1090 00:54:08,160 --> 00:54:10,759 Speaker 3: you're scoring. Thank you for your modesty, but no I'm 1091 00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:11,400 Speaker 3: not noss. 1092 00:54:13,719 --> 00:54:17,080 Speaker 2: Katie T. Mac mm hmm. 1093 00:54:17,640 --> 00:54:19,920 Speaker 3: If I could put myself, I would put myself. If 1094 00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:26,879 Speaker 3: I had to exclude myself, who's number four m jure 1095 00:54:27,080 --> 00:54:29,520 Speaker 3: you're talking about scoring, and if I had to do 1096 00:54:29,600 --> 00:54:32,000 Speaker 3: another one at five to take myself out, I would 1097 00:54:32,040 --> 00:54:33,399 Speaker 3: have to put like Broun in there. 1098 00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:36,640 Speaker 2: Just just just for the reason that people say he 1099 00:54:36,719 --> 00:54:42,520 Speaker 2: can't score. Got seventy thousand ports you score? 1100 00:54:42,680 --> 00:54:47,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, twenty thous do you do you get in that 1101 00:54:47,320 --> 00:54:50,520 Speaker 1: conversation of the gold I don't know the place. 1102 00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:51,200 Speaker 2: I don't. 1103 00:54:52,920 --> 00:54:55,040 Speaker 1: But let's you say, you're not calling my life just 1104 00:54:55,120 --> 00:54:56,759 Speaker 1: a regularly. Your name is, your name is? 1105 00:54:57,040 --> 00:54:59,800 Speaker 2: I don't called after your name is being somebody? 1106 00:55:00,200 --> 00:55:02,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I won't say call that. 1107 00:55:03,600 --> 00:55:05,480 Speaker 5: You guys for real care about that? You really for 1108 00:55:05,560 --> 00:55:06,680 Speaker 5: real care about that conversation. 1109 00:55:06,760 --> 00:55:07,600 Speaker 1: I'm jealous about it. 1110 00:55:08,360 --> 00:55:09,480 Speaker 2: You're jealous about. 1111 00:55:12,360 --> 00:55:15,080 Speaker 5: With man, listen for real, and we need to be 1112 00:55:16,560 --> 00:55:20,520 Speaker 5: nobody tell you, man, we just can we just do this? 1113 00:55:20,960 --> 00:55:23,120 Speaker 5: Can we see how many times let's get a montage 1114 00:55:23,120 --> 00:55:25,160 Speaker 5: of how many times you said I'm angry about that 1115 00:55:26,680 --> 00:55:28,960 Speaker 5: just this episode alone. Let's get get these bigs alone. 1116 00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:33,040 Speaker 1: But why because we put a lot of work in right, Yes, 1117 00:55:33,120 --> 00:55:35,000 Speaker 1: wouldn't it be nice to put people just think of 1118 00:55:35,120 --> 00:55:37,000 Speaker 1: us as the greatest of all time out of all 1119 00:55:37,080 --> 00:55:38,880 Speaker 1: the times basketball players that played before. 1120 00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:40,400 Speaker 2: I don't get into the. 1121 00:55:41,560 --> 00:55:44,440 Speaker 1: I like, like, I'm proud of saiding the most dominant 1122 00:55:44,480 --> 00:55:47,160 Speaker 1: and me and Will. I can live with that, but 1123 00:55:47,280 --> 00:55:49,040 Speaker 1: I would love for somebody say he's the greatest. 1124 00:55:50,760 --> 00:55:54,759 Speaker 3: Listen you have ego, especially when you at that yeah competition, 1125 00:55:55,239 --> 00:56:00,160 Speaker 3: I get being the goat of the goats. Yes, I 1126 00:56:00,280 --> 00:56:03,960 Speaker 3: get that part of it's only two people could be that, 1127 00:56:04,080 --> 00:56:05,320 Speaker 3: two three people who could be that. 1128 00:56:05,560 --> 00:56:07,959 Speaker 2: You get what I'm saying, the goat of the goat. 1129 00:56:09,080 --> 00:56:10,400 Speaker 2: One guy is the goat of the. 1130 00:56:10,440 --> 00:56:12,360 Speaker 1: Goat, you know coming up for me. That was doctor 1131 00:56:12,440 --> 00:56:16,279 Speaker 1: j like he was, and then you know, magic and 1132 00:56:16,360 --> 00:56:19,120 Speaker 1: all those guys came around. Kenny Smith said we should 1133 00:56:19,200 --> 00:56:22,279 Speaker 1: we should do it by errors. It's hard to pick one. 1134 00:56:22,360 --> 00:56:24,919 Speaker 1: If we have to pick one, I'm going. 1135 00:56:26,680 --> 00:56:32,080 Speaker 2: I agree with the with the with the error. I mean, 1136 00:56:32,120 --> 00:56:32,680 Speaker 2: it's it's you. 1137 00:56:33,320 --> 00:56:35,600 Speaker 1: You have to. You just have to. 1138 00:56:35,800 --> 00:56:38,480 Speaker 2: For all the reasons in the world. You have to. 1139 00:56:38,840 --> 00:56:40,000 Speaker 2: But I don't get into it. 1140 00:56:40,080 --> 00:56:42,000 Speaker 3: There's my reason why I don't get into it, because 1141 00:56:43,080 --> 00:56:46,200 Speaker 3: you can't tell me that I can't love. 1142 00:56:48,160 --> 00:56:53,040 Speaker 2: Eddie Murphy over Richard. Yeah, you can't. 1143 00:56:53,440 --> 00:56:54,399 Speaker 5: It's pieces of one. 1144 00:56:54,560 --> 00:56:55,360 Speaker 1: Not tell me that. 1145 00:56:56,080 --> 00:56:56,960 Speaker 2: You get what I'm saying. 1146 00:56:57,520 --> 00:57:02,040 Speaker 3: You can't tell me I can't love a Rod and 1147 00:57:02,360 --> 00:57:08,759 Speaker 3: Jeter and Barry Bonds like I can't and King Griffy Joint. 1148 00:57:08,760 --> 00:57:10,880 Speaker 3: I got to pick one from those guys like No, 1149 00:57:12,440 --> 00:57:16,439 Speaker 3: I can't love Shaq, I can't love Will, I can't 1150 00:57:16,520 --> 00:57:20,080 Speaker 3: love I want to sit there and everybody just be 1151 00:57:20,240 --> 00:57:23,680 Speaker 3: like respect MJ respect, Cole respect Broun. 1152 00:57:23,840 --> 00:57:27,360 Speaker 5: And really it's moments, man, like ninety nine moments you 1153 00:57:27,520 --> 00:57:30,960 Speaker 5: had when you were playing you were like a goddamn. 1154 00:57:30,880 --> 00:57:33,920 Speaker 3: Because the minute I say, hey, I like I like, uh, 1155 00:57:34,880 --> 00:57:40,200 Speaker 3: I like Ray Allen. Right, oh you don't like Reggie. Yeah, 1156 00:57:42,560 --> 00:57:44,240 Speaker 3: I stay away from good point. 1157 00:57:44,400 --> 00:57:44,840 Speaker 2: Good point. 1158 00:57:45,160 --> 00:57:49,720 Speaker 1: I would like to be in a conversation because you 1159 00:57:49,800 --> 00:57:51,680 Speaker 1: know he and you know he knows. It's like. 1160 00:57:53,880 --> 00:57:54,400 Speaker 4: He is the. 1161 00:57:57,240 --> 00:57:59,680 Speaker 2: I can't let me, I can't let you. 1162 00:58:00,240 --> 00:58:03,320 Speaker 1: I'm not in the go listen. It's only three people. 1163 00:58:05,120 --> 00:58:07,360 Speaker 1: There's only three people in the grace about time conversation. 1164 00:58:07,600 --> 00:58:10,920 Speaker 1: I'm listen. I'm I'm arrogant, but I'm not dumb. It's 1165 00:58:11,040 --> 00:58:13,960 Speaker 1: Cole Bron and Mike. That's it. 1166 00:58:14,720 --> 00:58:16,520 Speaker 5: But there's towards shooting guards. 1167 00:58:17,880 --> 00:58:21,360 Speaker 1: We all have our sub categories in the grace score 1168 00:58:21,800 --> 00:58:24,360 Speaker 1: down like we all. But but like you said, the 1169 00:58:24,440 --> 00:58:27,600 Speaker 1: gold to the ghost, that's that. That's that's that, that's that. 1170 00:58:28,600 --> 00:58:31,520 Speaker 1: Like I always wanted to be lion king. Yeah, that's 1171 00:58:31,640 --> 00:58:36,520 Speaker 1: lion king. But to me, like I had to modify 1172 00:58:36,600 --> 00:58:39,440 Speaker 1: what I was saying because, like he said, can't tell 1173 00:58:39,480 --> 00:58:42,200 Speaker 1: me who I can and can't like. But my thing 1174 00:58:42,320 --> 00:58:43,960 Speaker 1: is if you're going to have the conversation, have the 1175 00:58:44,000 --> 00:58:46,760 Speaker 1: correct conversation. For so long it was just Mike and 1176 00:58:46,880 --> 00:58:50,360 Speaker 1: bron And now I'm like, oh, I understand the great picks. 1177 00:58:50,680 --> 00:58:54,640 Speaker 1: What about the coaster? That's all? So now you got 1178 00:58:54,760 --> 00:58:57,959 Speaker 1: you got you got all the all the all the data. 1179 00:58:58,520 --> 00:59:00,640 Speaker 1: Now whatever the data says, that's what it says. 1180 00:59:01,280 --> 00:59:05,200 Speaker 3: And to add on to that is how you gonna 1181 00:59:05,200 --> 00:59:08,440 Speaker 3: tell me if you're taking the goats right, how you 1182 00:59:08,560 --> 00:59:10,200 Speaker 3: gonna sit there and tell me Steph is not in 1183 00:59:10,280 --> 00:59:11,000 Speaker 3: that conversation. 1184 00:59:11,520 --> 00:59:12,800 Speaker 1: I said that before you get. 1185 00:59:12,680 --> 00:59:13,200 Speaker 2: What I'm saying. 1186 00:59:13,200 --> 00:59:18,640 Speaker 3: You can't sit there and tell me and Steph eyes right? 1187 00:59:18,760 --> 00:59:20,760 Speaker 3: Thinking about what Steph is probably I don't know. It 1188 00:59:20,880 --> 00:59:27,600 Speaker 3: probably sits from it's Mike, it's cold, and then it's 1189 00:59:27,680 --> 00:59:33,680 Speaker 3: me right, like he's not gonna put braun over himself, 1190 00:59:34,880 --> 00:59:37,280 Speaker 3: but he has every legitimate argument. 1191 00:59:37,880 --> 00:59:41,280 Speaker 2: And to shit, there you get what I'm saying. He's 1192 00:59:41,320 --> 00:59:45,000 Speaker 2: so subjective. It's it's it's very difficult. 1193 00:59:44,560 --> 00:59:50,280 Speaker 3: To have those those conversations. Bill us levit rains so people, 1194 00:59:50,360 --> 00:59:52,120 Speaker 3: you know what I mean, You can't say he's not 1195 00:59:52,240 --> 00:59:55,880 Speaker 3: the goat to right, It's it's just it's levels to 1196 00:59:55,960 --> 00:59:58,520 Speaker 3: the news also like you only have that conversation to me. 1197 00:59:58,640 --> 01:00:01,560 Speaker 5: Like what always comes back to his memories, Like the 1198 01:00:01,680 --> 01:00:05,960 Speaker 5: memories you gave New York City during the Eastern Conference Finals, memories. 1199 01:00:05,720 --> 01:00:07,880 Speaker 9: That's what I had memoried on to I can't hold 1200 01:00:07,920 --> 01:00:12,360 Speaker 9: on to today and I was nothing I can't or 1201 01:00:12,440 --> 01:00:15,200 Speaker 9: the memories you gave, you know, and then you get 1202 01:00:15,200 --> 01:00:15,640 Speaker 9: what I'm saying. 1203 01:00:15,640 --> 01:00:18,560 Speaker 5: It's absolutely feeling my era was my era felt as 1204 01:00:18,560 --> 01:00:21,400 Speaker 5: a kid when you were watching absolutely we're watching you. 1205 01:00:21,840 --> 01:00:26,800 Speaker 1: How's it feel to be recognized in China? I know, 1206 01:00:26,840 --> 01:00:30,280 Speaker 1: it's a weird question. I remember growing up watching karate 1207 01:00:30,440 --> 01:00:34,560 Speaker 1: movies likewise right, just watching them, and then I remember 1208 01:00:34,560 --> 01:00:36,320 Speaker 1: the first time went over there, I was terrified to go. 1209 01:00:37,120 --> 01:00:41,000 Speaker 1: But they they know, they know everything about you than 1210 01:00:41,040 --> 01:00:44,320 Speaker 1: you do. You know about your own self over there, 1211 01:00:44,440 --> 01:00:46,800 Speaker 1: Like I go there a lot. You're big in China. 1212 01:00:47,680 --> 01:00:50,160 Speaker 1: The way's big in China's big in China for you? 1213 01:00:50,440 --> 01:00:53,760 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, I mean, like, how's that feel? And 1214 01:00:54,640 --> 01:00:55,600 Speaker 1: how did that come about? 1215 01:00:55,880 --> 01:00:59,040 Speaker 3: Well, when I was Signature line, you're talking about signature 1216 01:00:59,080 --> 01:01:03,360 Speaker 3: with Jordan, I was always trying to figure out emerging markets, 1217 01:01:03,440 --> 01:01:05,960 Speaker 3: like what's what's the emerging market? Like who got the 1218 01:01:06,080 --> 01:01:09,240 Speaker 3: fan base or you know who's my biggest fan base? 1219 01:01:09,360 --> 01:01:15,800 Speaker 2: And every everything that come back was Philippines, China, Brazil, 1220 01:01:16,640 --> 01:01:19,040 Speaker 2: and I'm like, damn, like where you as at? You 1221 01:01:19,120 --> 01:01:19,520 Speaker 2: know what I mean? 1222 01:01:19,680 --> 01:01:23,080 Speaker 3: So I figured I already had business here in the US, 1223 01:01:23,720 --> 01:01:27,360 Speaker 3: and being able to see that these markets was emerging, 1224 01:01:27,520 --> 01:01:29,360 Speaker 3: I was able to pinpoint down and say, hey, you 1225 01:01:29,440 --> 01:01:30,439 Speaker 3: know what, man. 1226 01:01:30,360 --> 01:01:30,880 Speaker 1: I want to go to. 1227 01:01:31,040 --> 01:01:32,640 Speaker 2: I want to go to Seeing Hi, I want to 1228 01:01:32,680 --> 01:01:33,520 Speaker 2: go to Guang Joe. 1229 01:01:33,680 --> 01:01:36,080 Speaker 3: I want to go to all of these You know 1230 01:01:36,160 --> 01:01:38,360 Speaker 3: where the fans is really at, you know what I mean? 1231 01:01:38,560 --> 01:01:41,480 Speaker 3: Where they appreciate the art, they appreciate everything about you, 1232 01:01:42,120 --> 01:01:45,200 Speaker 3: and they really want to support you in ways that 1233 01:01:45,320 --> 01:01:47,560 Speaker 3: you don't even know how they want to support you. 1234 01:01:48,240 --> 01:01:50,440 Speaker 3: That's a different That's a different fandom and different love 1235 01:01:50,520 --> 01:01:50,800 Speaker 3: over there. 1236 01:01:50,840 --> 01:01:52,720 Speaker 1: The last time I was over there, me and Jalen 1237 01:01:52,760 --> 01:01:57,040 Speaker 1: Brown was in Beijing. Get it? Just the fact I'm 1238 01:01:57,040 --> 01:02:01,120 Speaker 1: following with you, you get it? You know, you know, 1239 01:02:01,360 --> 01:02:03,840 Speaker 1: me and Jaylen Brown just got off a flight from 1240 01:02:03,880 --> 01:02:08,680 Speaker 1: Talent in Beijing. Okay, I got you know, over your head? 1241 01:02:10,080 --> 01:02:10,920 Speaker 5: You have to sleep at me. 1242 01:02:14,240 --> 01:02:14,640 Speaker 1: You got that. 1243 01:02:17,400 --> 01:02:19,000 Speaker 5: You know, my daughter's in the room next door she's 1244 01:02:19,000 --> 01:02:20,400 Speaker 5: doing her math homework and if you were doing the 1245 01:02:21,200 --> 01:02:25,320 Speaker 5: seven four, Okay. 1246 01:02:25,240 --> 01:02:26,840 Speaker 6: Can you explain it for me because it went over 1247 01:02:26,920 --> 01:02:27,240 Speaker 6: my head. 1248 01:02:27,560 --> 01:02:31,400 Speaker 1: Okay, So Beijing, it's for guys. They go ball black, 1249 01:02:32,920 --> 01:02:33,840 Speaker 1: they're putting black. 1250 01:02:36,440 --> 01:02:38,040 Speaker 2: That it happens. 1251 01:02:38,720 --> 01:02:40,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, it's not supposed to. 1252 01:02:40,600 --> 01:02:45,280 Speaker 5: Banana wire. Bananas so popular they have appeal there you go. 1253 01:02:46,880 --> 01:02:47,160 Speaker 2: Take that. 1254 01:02:47,440 --> 01:02:52,520 Speaker 5: Take that. Wow, he's got nine kids. It's biblical. Wow, 1255 01:02:53,440 --> 01:02:56,080 Speaker 5: nine kids is you know that's old testament. That is 1256 01:02:57,040 --> 01:03:00,800 Speaker 5: some old Testament vice. You know what I mean? History jokes. 1257 01:03:00,840 --> 01:03:03,840 Speaker 5: On the Big Shack podcast today, Okay. 1258 01:03:04,160 --> 01:03:08,120 Speaker 1: Covery, here is Billy. This cover is Marlon Wayne said 1259 01:03:08,120 --> 01:03:11,200 Speaker 1: in his podcast he said, damn, nine kids. So how 1260 01:03:11,240 --> 01:03:11,840 Speaker 1: many kids you have? 1261 01:03:12,280 --> 01:03:12,800 Speaker 2: I have three? 1262 01:03:13,400 --> 01:03:14,480 Speaker 1: I have seven? 1263 01:03:14,920 --> 01:03:17,560 Speaker 2: Damn. I gotta teach you some pullout games. 1264 01:03:18,120 --> 01:03:22,520 Speaker 3: Oh nick boy, you like that gooey gooey boy, you 1265 01:03:22,680 --> 01:03:24,720 Speaker 3: be in that gooey gooey you cream pile. 1266 01:03:26,360 --> 01:03:27,840 Speaker 2: You like to see it spill out? 1267 01:03:37,520 --> 01:03:38,240 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's crazy. 1268 01:03:38,920 --> 01:03:39,560 Speaker 1: It was crazy. 1269 01:03:39,960 --> 01:03:45,560 Speaker 5: It was very graphic. Very joke is very graphic. I 1270 01:03:45,600 --> 01:03:48,040 Speaker 5: feel like they need to do this in business and 1271 01:03:48,080 --> 01:03:51,360 Speaker 5: in politics. Shack, how much is a two gallon? How 1272 01:03:51,440 --> 01:03:54,080 Speaker 5: much is two gallons of milk, two gallons of two gallons, 1273 01:03:54,120 --> 01:03:55,320 Speaker 5: you go to the store, you get the big jog 1274 01:03:55,360 --> 01:03:56,720 Speaker 5: that mom used to get you and say, hey, don't 1275 01:03:56,800 --> 01:03:57,080 Speaker 5: use it all. 1276 01:03:57,120 --> 01:03:59,160 Speaker 1: You get it. You want the real answer? 1277 01:03:59,240 --> 01:04:01,560 Speaker 5: I want? I want the answer. Now there's there's there's 1278 01:04:01,600 --> 01:04:04,360 Speaker 5: the Costco, there's the bodega, and there's your milk expensive. 1279 01:04:04,760 --> 01:04:07,600 Speaker 1: You're my you're my brother and my friend. Yes, I've 1280 01:04:07,640 --> 01:04:09,520 Speaker 1: been blessed enough to have a chef for twenty years. 1281 01:04:09,520 --> 01:04:10,160 Speaker 1: I have no idea. 1282 01:04:11,640 --> 01:04:13,479 Speaker 5: Really, how much is milk? Two galls? 1283 01:04:14,080 --> 01:04:16,040 Speaker 6: I don't buy cow's milk, that's my issue. 1284 01:04:16,160 --> 01:04:17,240 Speaker 2: Two goawns is crazy. 1285 01:04:17,520 --> 01:04:22,320 Speaker 6: Maybe three dollars. I know all the milk's about three dollars. 1286 01:04:22,400 --> 01:04:24,480 Speaker 5: Four dollars for you talking about a gallon? 1287 01:04:24,600 --> 01:04:28,240 Speaker 6: Yeah, real, No, maybe for like a half. We'll say 1288 01:04:28,240 --> 01:04:29,160 Speaker 6: three for cow's milk. 1289 01:04:29,200 --> 01:04:31,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's right now. Costco two goawns of milk is 1290 01:04:31,560 --> 01:04:34,479 Speaker 5: around seven bucks. But if you go organic, ten bucks. 1291 01:04:34,560 --> 01:04:35,959 Speaker 5: Ten dollars for milk shack. 1292 01:04:37,080 --> 01:04:38,880 Speaker 2: But milk used to be a quarter. 1293 01:04:39,960 --> 01:04:41,479 Speaker 5: Milk is ten Milk used. 1294 01:04:41,400 --> 01:04:42,160 Speaker 8: To be dollars. 1295 01:04:42,800 --> 01:04:43,920 Speaker 1: I don't have a milk deal. 1296 01:04:44,760 --> 01:04:45,320 Speaker 2: That's crazy. 1297 01:04:45,520 --> 01:04:49,160 Speaker 1: I can't eat milk. I'm like eat milk. I mean 1298 01:04:50,320 --> 01:04:55,120 Speaker 1: you drink milk. You know what I mean? I got 1299 01:04:55,200 --> 01:04:55,600 Speaker 1: you shock. 1300 01:04:57,920 --> 01:05:02,320 Speaker 5: I can't even bark. Mi man, you and Charles got 1301 01:05:02,400 --> 01:05:03,000 Speaker 5: to do a dictionary. 1302 01:05:03,040 --> 01:05:03,560 Speaker 2: That'd be great. 1303 01:05:04,600 --> 01:05:06,520 Speaker 5: Can you use it in a sentence? I can't eat milk. 1304 01:05:07,680 --> 01:05:08,200 Speaker 2: That's great. 1305 01:05:09,160 --> 01:05:11,200 Speaker 5: See that's what I'm saying. Shack, You're such a conundrum 1306 01:05:11,200 --> 01:05:13,800 Speaker 5: because you're such a good sport bro. You will let people. 1307 01:05:13,960 --> 01:05:16,360 Speaker 5: And by the way, it's a real honor if you 1308 01:05:16,400 --> 01:05:18,960 Speaker 5: do a comedy special and Shack is laughing in it. 1309 01:05:19,440 --> 01:05:22,360 Speaker 5: Kevin Hart has that moment with you. He has it 1310 01:05:22,440 --> 01:05:25,280 Speaker 5: with you and Lebron Like it's a moment to have 1311 01:05:25,880 --> 01:05:30,320 Speaker 5: an iconic athlete like you two going crazy in a 1312 01:05:30,360 --> 01:05:32,200 Speaker 5: crowd shot. It's a moment. 1313 01:05:32,800 --> 01:05:34,240 Speaker 2: I would love to do it. I would love to 1314 01:05:34,280 --> 01:05:35,440 Speaker 2: bring that back likes. 1315 01:05:35,680 --> 01:05:37,960 Speaker 5: You know, we need to start inviting you guys to 1316 01:05:38,040 --> 01:05:40,920 Speaker 5: come to these Netflix taments because it's a moment. It is. 1317 01:05:41,680 --> 01:05:44,680 Speaker 1: And for me, it's like I always like to laugh. 1318 01:05:45,240 --> 01:05:47,840 Speaker 1: I never take myself too seriously. I love to laugh 1319 01:05:48,440 --> 01:05:50,720 Speaker 1: because for me, laughing was what took me out of 1320 01:05:50,760 --> 01:05:54,919 Speaker 1: my craziness. Like after getting swept and going that's top 1321 01:05:54,960 --> 01:05:57,439 Speaker 1: instead of going crazy, go home and watch a movie. 1322 01:05:57,760 --> 01:06:01,560 Speaker 1: Adam Sandler. If you Laurens like like, I would like 1323 01:06:01,640 --> 01:06:03,760 Speaker 1: to laugh and so so even now when I see 1324 01:06:03,800 --> 01:06:06,400 Speaker 1: stuff on the ground by me before, I get pissed 1325 01:06:06,400 --> 01:06:09,680 Speaker 1: off of like that was funny, that was actually funny. 1326 01:06:10,480 --> 01:06:13,640 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't. I don't really take myself too serious. 1327 01:06:13,640 --> 01:06:16,240 Speaker 1: Any reason why I don't Because all this stuff you 1328 01:06:16,280 --> 01:06:20,280 Speaker 1: see around it's all luck. Yeah, I'm blessed to have it. 1329 01:06:20,400 --> 01:06:23,120 Speaker 1: So I don't want to act like I'm all the 1330 01:06:24,600 --> 01:06:26,880 Speaker 1: You can't say nothing about me. It's just if it's funny, 1331 01:06:26,920 --> 01:06:28,920 Speaker 1: it's funny. You know, it's a comedian. If it's funny, 1332 01:06:28,960 --> 01:06:30,880 Speaker 1: it's funny, it's not not. But I don't. 1333 01:06:32,280 --> 01:06:34,680 Speaker 5: You're a good sport man. Everybody, everybody can't take it. 1334 01:06:34,960 --> 01:06:37,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't get it my Like, like I told 1335 01:06:38,040 --> 01:06:40,760 Speaker 1: my team after the Tom Brady Rose, I said, I 1336 01:06:40,840 --> 01:06:43,520 Speaker 1: want the same people plus more, and my team's like a, 1337 01:06:43,720 --> 01:06:49,280 Speaker 1: it's like probably uh with the young lady h oh, 1338 01:06:49,480 --> 01:06:49,960 Speaker 1: she went. 1339 01:06:52,320 --> 01:06:55,120 Speaker 6: Wow, So who would you want to be out your roast? 1340 01:06:56,360 --> 01:06:57,840 Speaker 1: I want to do mine and I want to call 1341 01:06:57,920 --> 01:06:59,600 Speaker 1: it the black and White Ross when I have all 1342 01:06:59,640 --> 01:07:01,280 Speaker 1: the top figments and all the top. 1343 01:07:01,160 --> 01:07:03,200 Speaker 5: Black ones, but shack Comedy All Star is one of 1344 01:07:03,280 --> 01:07:08,080 Speaker 5: the all times, all time, all time. 1345 01:07:08,200 --> 01:07:10,880 Speaker 1: Whoever's the top on the go? Mel I want to say, brother, 1346 01:07:10,920 --> 01:07:14,200 Speaker 1: I'll never tell you before. I've also with friends were cool, 1347 01:07:14,240 --> 01:07:17,000 Speaker 1: but I've also I've always been a fan of yours. 1348 01:07:17,040 --> 01:07:19,240 Speaker 1: I appreciate you, I'm better love what you're doing with 1349 01:07:19,360 --> 01:07:22,560 Speaker 1: the family. I've been waiting for you to call man. 1350 01:07:23,040 --> 01:07:25,920 Speaker 2: Thank you. Absolutely, did you know who Puerto Rican? Yes? 1351 01:07:26,000 --> 01:07:26,640 Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you. 1352 01:07:27,880 --> 01:07:39,000 Speaker 10: Podcastamo Mayamo, Mayamollo. 1353 01:07:41,320 --> 01:07:43,800 Speaker 5: All right, thank you guys, Hello, thank you, Thank you 1354 01:07:43,880 --> 01:07:51,440 Speaker 5: guys for the memories. Absolutely, this has been a playmaker production.