WEBVTT - Buck Brief - Bryan Dean Wright 0:00:11.697 --> 0:00:14.977 You're listening to The Buck Sexton Show podcast, make sure 0:00:14.977 --> 0:00:17.977 you subscribe to the podcast on the iHeartRadio app or 0:00:18.017 --> 0:00:19.737 wherever you get your podcasts. 0:00:20.097 --> 0:00:22.297 Hey, everybody, welcome to the Buck Brief. On this episode, 0:00:22.337 --> 0:00:25.857 my friend Brian Dean Wright. You got two CIA guys 0:00:25.977 --> 0:00:28.377 diving into the Middle East. I'm going to tell you 0:00:28.457 --> 0:00:31.297 how it really is and what's really going on and more. 0:00:31.337 --> 0:00:34.657 Brian also has the Right Report podcast, which I recommend 0:00:34.657 --> 0:00:37.657 you all go check out and subscribe to yourselves. My 0:00:37.777 --> 0:00:40.177 CIA brother from another mother, how are you doing. 0:00:41.257 --> 0:00:43.057 I'm good man, so good to be here. Thanks for 0:00:43.097 --> 0:00:43.737 having me Ken. 0:00:43.857 --> 0:00:45.337 Actually, can we talk about one thing before we dive 0:00:45.377 --> 0:00:47.257 in the Middle East? Do you ever get a little 0:00:47.257 --> 0:00:50.257 bit frustrated lately on the right? Well, the one thing 0:00:50.297 --> 0:00:53.097 is because everybody knows, I mean, I went right out 0:00:53.137 --> 0:00:56.657 of CI, worked for Glenn Beck. I've always been conservative 0:00:56.697 --> 0:00:59.017 or right wing. Anyone who knew me in real life, 0:00:59.057 --> 0:01:00.977 I was considered a kind of a right wing loon 0:01:01.137 --> 0:01:03.177 when I worked at CIA. I mean not in my 0:01:03.257 --> 0:01:05.377 work now, people who knew me going all the way 0:01:05.417 --> 0:01:07.897 back to when I was probably about fifteen, I was like, 0:01:08.297 --> 0:01:12.737 I'm right wing. People now think that CIA they think 0:01:12.737 --> 0:01:16.177 of it in terms of you're part of some like illuminati, 0:01:16.257 --> 0:01:19.057 deep state conspiracy and you can't be trusted on the right. 0:01:19.097 --> 0:01:22.217 I look at them, I'm like, I joined the CIA 0:01:22.257 --> 0:01:25.297 to join the unit that was trying to hunt and 0:01:25.417 --> 0:01:29.097 kill Osama bin Laden after nine to eleven. Like, I 0:01:29.137 --> 0:01:32.577 didn't go in there to be, you know, collected to 0:01:32.617 --> 0:01:34.737 be the bag man for hunter Biden or something. 0:01:34.777 --> 0:01:35.457 You know what I'm saying. 0:01:35.737 --> 0:01:37.297 I just kind of want to I want you to 0:01:37.297 --> 0:01:39.697 address this because whatever, so, oh you can't trust me CIA. 0:01:39.737 --> 0:01:42.537 I'm like, I went into CTC in the bin Laden unit, Like, well, 0:01:42.617 --> 0:01:44.617 what do you write people to find? 0:01:44.737 --> 0:01:48.097 Kill them or not? Yeah? Look, I do get this 0:01:48.137 --> 0:01:49.737 as well, and I actually think it's fair. So I 0:01:49.777 --> 0:01:51.857 think that there are two different eras. There was an 0:01:51.857 --> 0:01:53.937 era that you and I joined in, which was back 0:01:53.977 --> 0:01:55.977 of the day, immediately after nine to eleven. We were 0:01:55.977 --> 0:01:58.177 going after the bad guys. We were killing them, and 0:01:58.217 --> 0:01:59.817 we were doing what we needed to do to serve 0:01:59.857 --> 0:02:02.617 the American people, and we didn't care about politics. Man, 0:02:02.617 --> 0:02:04.257 that's tough state at the front gate. You and I 0:02:04.337 --> 0:02:05.137 remember those days. 0:02:05.217 --> 0:02:07.977 Yeah, there are was a time where CIA had a 0:02:08.017 --> 0:02:11.497 clear united mission. It did exist is correct. 0:02:12.057 --> 0:02:16.137 Yes, that is correct, sir. The Trump Russia collusion investigation, 0:02:16.217 --> 0:02:18.497 I think changed a lot of things. You can probably 0:02:18.537 --> 0:02:20.737 go back a little earlier than that as well. Some 0:02:20.777 --> 0:02:22.937 of the hires that you started to see in the 0:02:22.977 --> 0:02:27.297 Obama era. There was a huge switch from mission for 0:02:27.417 --> 0:02:29.977 others for the country. It was all about this self, 0:02:30.337 --> 0:02:32.257 it was my truth. I don't know if you ever 0:02:32.497 --> 0:02:34.257 were there or you would talk to people when they 0:02:34.297 --> 0:02:37.577 would start working during that time, and a lot of 0:02:37.617 --> 0:02:40.097 people just became very much focused on the meat. And 0:02:40.137 --> 0:02:41.697 I think what was two years ago we had those 0:02:41.697 --> 0:02:45.617 CIA recruitment ads. They were talking about being intersectional and bipolar, 0:02:46.057 --> 0:02:48.177 and none of that was about actually the agency or 0:02:48.257 --> 0:02:51.057 mission for the country. So I think you combine those 0:02:51.057 --> 0:02:54.537 two things. These crazy ads. They're asking people who would 0:02:54.537 --> 0:02:57.097 have mental illnesses and intersectional, which I don't even know 0:02:57.137 --> 0:02:59.297 what that means. It sounds like a sofa, But the 0:02:59.337 --> 0:03:02.297 point is they're recruiting these crazy people. And we got 0:03:02.297 --> 0:03:04.937 the Trump Russia collusion thing with guys like John Brennan 0:03:05.017 --> 0:03:08.057 and James Comey at the FBI, and it just poisoned 0:03:08.057 --> 0:03:09.857 the waters. And I think a lot of people, very 0:03:10.177 --> 0:03:12.417 for very good reason, are like, I don't know if 0:03:12.457 --> 0:03:14.737 I dressed yet, if you got those three letter agencies 0:03:14.777 --> 0:03:16.577 behind your name, I don't know. 0:03:16.817 --> 0:03:17.857 I'm a little suspicious. 0:03:18.017 --> 0:03:19.617 So yeah, look, I think for the rest of our lives, 0:03:19.657 --> 0:03:21.697 we're going to get be smeared with that, and it's 0:03:21.697 --> 0:03:24.297 going to be our fight, which is why I believe you. 0:03:24.337 --> 0:03:26.817 I just know, Yeah, I look, I wanted us to 0:03:26.817 --> 0:03:28.617 be able to go in the record league somewhere and say, 0:03:29.297 --> 0:03:32.577 you know, in the post nine to eleven days, really 0:03:32.657 --> 0:03:35.337 up until the Obama administration, so there was an eight 0:03:35.417 --> 0:03:38.577 year period at the CIA where it was all about 0:03:38.977 --> 0:03:41.457 now put aside the I know, there's the Iraq WMD 0:03:41.577 --> 0:03:44.137 part of the conversation. People who worked in the Iraq 0:03:44.217 --> 0:03:47.297 Office leading up to the invasion were part of that. 0:03:47.617 --> 0:03:49.777 People like me who joined the Iraq Office in like 0:03:49.817 --> 0:03:52.817 two thousand and six two thousand and seven had nothing 0:03:52.857 --> 0:03:55.257 to do with that. We were trying to find the Al 0:03:55.337 --> 0:03:58.657 Qaeda in Iraq, guys who were beheading people and turning 0:03:58.697 --> 0:04:01.137 the country into a healthscape in a civil war. But 0:04:01.257 --> 0:04:04.097 before that I came into CTC, and I know you 0:04:04.137 --> 0:04:06.817 were working the Counter Terrorism Mission too, And I just 0:04:06.857 --> 0:04:09.737 think that it's worth like letting everybody know. I lasted 0:04:09.737 --> 0:04:13.377 for or uh what two years of the Obama administration, 0:04:13.457 --> 0:04:15.097 and I was like, I'm out, I can't. I can't 0:04:15.137 --> 0:04:17.297 maybe three years of the obom administration, so I didn't. I 0:04:17.337 --> 0:04:19.337 was like, I can't. I'm not going to stick around 0:04:19.337 --> 0:04:20.817 for this. I went to the NYPD for one of 0:04:20.817 --> 0:04:23.337 those years. So anyway, but it's it's a little bit. 0:04:23.537 --> 0:04:26.097 I see it now more than ever. With the FBI, though, 0:04:26.137 --> 0:04:27.617 I've got to say, and I had some friends you've 0:04:27.657 --> 0:04:31.017 been the FBI back in the day, FBI at the 0:04:31.057 --> 0:04:34.057 top level lost its mind, man, I mean and and 0:04:34.057 --> 0:04:36.137 and it deserves to lose a lot of the faith 0:04:36.177 --> 0:04:38.217 of the American people. I'm not saying CIA doesn't. We've 0:04:38.257 --> 0:04:43.017 already been taking shots at CIA FBI. I don't trust them. 0:04:43.257 --> 0:04:45.377 I'm gonna say I don't trust that FBI anymore. 0:04:46.457 --> 0:04:48.977 Well, you got to a couple of great special counsel 0:04:49.017 --> 0:04:51.657 reports that gives you very good reason for that lack 0:04:51.697 --> 0:04:53.697 of STIC fidelity to law. That is one of the 0:04:53.737 --> 0:04:56.417 great lines that came out from the Germ Durham report. 0:04:56.497 --> 0:04:59.257 So yes, we all have good reason to say that 0:04:59.297 --> 0:05:01.777 the FBI might have some troubles. These days. 0:05:02.257 --> 0:05:05.417 Yeah, it's it's disconcerting. All right, let's let's let's move 0:05:05.457 --> 0:05:07.697 this to the Middle East. But first up, I want 0:05:07.697 --> 0:05:11.017 to tell everybody about my friends at a American Financing 0:05:11.017 --> 0:05:13.657 and how they've been helping your neighbors save money for 0:05:13.697 --> 0:05:15.897 twenty five years. 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All right, Brian, we lost three 0:06:15.057 --> 0:06:18.217 of ours killed in action in Jordan on a base 0:06:18.417 --> 0:06:22.897 your own strike from they believe Taibe Hesbala. What should 0:06:22.897 --> 0:06:23.697 be done about this? 0:06:25.777 --> 0:06:28.617 Well, so I think looking a small picture first, Let's 0:06:28.617 --> 0:06:30.817 go big picture in a second. The small picture is 0:06:30.817 --> 0:06:32.457 we have lost a turns right, So a lot of 0:06:32.497 --> 0:06:34.617 folks in the Middle East, a lot of governments, terror groups, 0:06:34.657 --> 0:06:37.977 the Iranians beyond. They just don't believe that we have 0:06:38.097 --> 0:06:41.057 a credible military, We don't have a credible commander in chief, 0:06:41.377 --> 0:06:43.057 and so they think they can get away with a lot, 0:06:43.217 --> 0:06:45.377 and they are. We're seeing this with the Houthis and 0:06:45.377 --> 0:06:47.457 the Red Sea. We're seeing this in places like now 0:06:47.497 --> 0:06:50.097 painfully in Jordan. But it's in Syria, it's in Iraq. 0:06:51.097 --> 0:06:54.737 So the question is what do we do in terms 0:06:54.777 --> 0:06:58.377 of this immediate short term response. We can certainly hit 0:06:58.417 --> 0:07:01.417 the Iranians hard inside of Iran or throughout some of 0:07:01.417 --> 0:07:03.377 their various proxy groups in the Middle East. 0:07:03.697 --> 0:07:05.177 We can hit them, We can do that. 0:07:05.777 --> 0:07:08.257 The Biden Winehouse is trying to find this sort of 0:07:08.297 --> 0:07:11.297 Goldie Locks approach, which is, well, we want to hit them, 0:07:11.297 --> 0:07:14.057 but not too hard, not too such, just right. I 0:07:14.057 --> 0:07:15.657 don't know what that looks like. I don't think the 0:07:15.657 --> 0:07:19.857 administration does either. So now the big question is, whatever 0:07:19.897 --> 0:07:22.497 you do, it's going to escalate. The Iranians have already 0:07:22.537 --> 0:07:26.377 decided they want to escalate. But stepping back for a second, buck, 0:07:26.697 --> 0:07:29.937 why are we in the Middle East? Why were those 0:07:29.977 --> 0:07:33.537 three folks there in Jordan? I think that starts to 0:07:33.537 --> 0:07:36.097 get to the bigger question of what comes next. Maybe 0:07:36.097 --> 0:07:39.977 the short term strikes fine, but we really are there. 0:07:39.857 --> 0:07:41.297 Now, I think for one or two reasons. 0:07:41.457 --> 0:07:43.257 One people will say, I think at the Pentagon to 0:07:43.297 --> 0:07:46.297 Cia we need to go towards at the root cause 0:07:46.337 --> 0:07:49.377 of Islona radicalism. Do we really need boots on the 0:07:49.417 --> 0:07:52.577 ground for that? We should be debating that. The bigger 0:07:52.657 --> 0:07:55.297 question is around oil. That is historically why we have 0:07:55.377 --> 0:07:57.577 been in the Middle East. Well, because of the fracking 0:07:57.657 --> 0:08:00.177 and the shale revolution. We are actually the world's biggest 0:08:00.217 --> 0:08:03.177 producer of oil and natural gas. You produce about twenty 0:08:03.177 --> 0:08:06.657 million barrels a day. We consume that as well. So 0:08:06.777 --> 0:08:08.897 do we need to be there? Can we have a 0:08:08.937 --> 0:08:13.417 fundamental change from the nineteen seventeens nineteen thirties when we 0:08:13.617 --> 0:08:15.817 and the Brits rushed into the Middle East to try 0:08:15.817 --> 0:08:18.417 to secure oil. Do we really still need to be there? 0:08:18.417 --> 0:08:21.417 Because beyond oil, why do we have oaks there? So 0:08:21.617 --> 0:08:23.657 I think that that is the bigger, sort of medium 0:08:23.697 --> 0:08:26.057 to long term question that we should all be asking 0:08:26.057 --> 0:08:29.097 ourselves about. But in the short term, yeah, we can 0:08:29.097 --> 0:08:31.697 certainly hit the Ranius, we can hit them hard or not. 0:08:32.097 --> 0:08:33.977 But I think this bigger picture stuff also should be 0:08:33.977 --> 0:08:35.017 part of the calculus. 0:08:35.137 --> 0:08:37.497 Yeah, I say to people, I mean the Wall Street 0:08:37.577 --> 0:08:40.857 Journal had its these are the three things that can 0:08:40.897 --> 0:08:44.657 be done. One was hit the proxies directly, Two is 0:08:44.737 --> 0:08:48.377 hit iron directly, and three was economic stuff and diplomacy, 0:08:48.417 --> 0:08:50.737 which is like you know, suffering silence basically right, no 0:08:50.737 --> 0:08:51.137 one cares. 0:08:51.337 --> 0:08:51.537 Yeah. 0:08:51.737 --> 0:08:55.097 Yeah, but even on those on those first two levels, 0:08:56.057 --> 0:09:00.337 you know, I think you do it to establish some deterrence. Fine, 0:09:00.657 --> 0:09:03.177 but they're still going to do this kind of stuff. 0:09:04.057 --> 0:09:06.457 That's I'm not sure how effective it is even as 0:09:06.457 --> 0:09:08.057 a deterrent effect. You really just want to be able 0:09:08.057 --> 0:09:10.017 to stop them at the tactical level, at the upper 0:09:10.137 --> 0:09:13.137 rational level, right, Because I don't think changing the Iranian 0:09:13.377 --> 0:09:16.537 proxy militia calculus, whether It'skataib has Beala or just has 0:09:16.577 --> 0:09:18.577 Bela or any of these groups. The who thies have 0:09:18.577 --> 0:09:20.897 been talking about what they've been doing and firing off 0:09:20.897 --> 0:09:25.817 at ships that that's likely to happen. So how worried 0:09:25.857 --> 0:09:28.897 are you? People seem to get very energized about the 0:09:28.977 --> 0:09:31.297 possibility we might get dragged into another Mid East war? 0:09:31.377 --> 0:09:32.617 Do you feel like that's overblown? 0:09:35.177 --> 0:09:37.217 I think that anything is on the table now because 0:09:37.217 --> 0:09:39.377 you have an administration that doesn't quite know what it 0:09:39.417 --> 0:09:41.257 wants to do. You have a Chairman of the Joint 0:09:41.337 --> 0:09:44.457 Chiefs who's put out mixed messages. The Pentagon is as well. 0:09:44.817 --> 0:09:47.057 I think that the one thing that probably limits a 0:09:47.137 --> 0:09:49.977 much much bigger response is the fact that Joe Biden 0:09:50.017 --> 0:09:53.657 needs to win in places like Michigan, Arizona, Pennsylvania that 0:09:53.777 --> 0:09:57.337 have very big either Arab or Muslim populations, and they 0:09:57.377 --> 0:10:00.417 would sway the election. And we know that mister Biden 0:10:00.577 --> 0:10:04.777 is facing serious headwins definitely in Michigan with this abandoned 0:10:04.777 --> 0:10:08.817 Biden campaign. So he is struggling, and I think any 0:10:08.857 --> 0:10:11.057 kind of bigger middle it used to a conflict is 0:10:11.097 --> 0:10:13.777 going to not be good for his reelection effort. 0:10:14.417 --> 0:10:15.217 So I would. 0:10:15.057 --> 0:10:18.057 Say that from the political calculus in the White House 0:10:18.057 --> 0:10:20.817 this morning or today, I should say, I don't think 0:10:20.857 --> 0:10:22.257 they want to push for a war, and that's why 0:10:22.297 --> 0:10:24.497 it's all about politics. 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All Right, Brian, the Secretary of Defense 0:11:50.457 --> 0:11:52.697 was gone and his next in command was on vacation, 0:11:52.817 --> 0:11:55.817 and nobody knew what was going on what happened? 0:11:57.097 --> 0:11:59.977 Goodness gracious, well, I think that's a great question for 0:12:00.017 --> 0:12:02.817 the White House to answer. And our secretary of Defense, 0:12:03.377 --> 0:12:05.937 why did he think that it was appropriate to disappear 0:12:06.017 --> 0:12:09.377 to not tell anybody as he underwent his mysterious treatment 0:12:09.417 --> 0:12:12.217 for something that we found out was cancer. Obviously, we 0:12:12.297 --> 0:12:14.977 hope the best for him is in his recovery. But 0:12:15.097 --> 0:12:17.937 secretaries of Defense, you know, come on, that is not 0:12:17.977 --> 0:12:20.617 something that you want to hide, no matter if it 0:12:20.697 --> 0:12:23.177 involves a degree of embarrassment, which is what I assume 0:12:23.657 --> 0:12:25.617 mister Austin why he. 0:12:25.657 --> 0:12:28.417 Hid his ailment. But you just can't do that. 0:12:28.457 --> 0:12:31.337 What does that say to the national globe about the 0:12:31.417 --> 0:12:33.697 leadership that you can have a secretary of Defense hide 0:12:33.697 --> 0:12:37.417 something from the commander in chief. That's a problem that 0:12:37.457 --> 0:12:39.297 that's a pretty clear message around the world that we 0:12:39.377 --> 0:12:42.337 got some dysfunction in DC, and we do. So that's 0:12:42.377 --> 0:12:44.337 why that was so bad, is how the rest of 0:12:44.337 --> 0:12:46.537 the world looks at the strength of our military and 0:12:46.537 --> 0:12:48.577 the strength of our government and whether or not our 0:12:48.617 --> 0:12:52.137 commander in chief actually has a hold of his own team. 0:12:52.777 --> 0:12:55.337 Brian, is there one place that you're keeping an eye 0:12:55.377 --> 0:12:58.577 on right now that you think could either get much worse. 0:12:58.617 --> 0:13:01.297 It's already bad but could get much worse, or could 0:13:01.377 --> 0:13:03.257 just turn in a hurry, and we got much bigger 0:13:03.257 --> 0:13:05.177 problems than we ever thought we would. You know, is 0:13:06.057 --> 0:13:10.257 there a possible flare up a hot spot that you're 0:13:10.297 --> 0:13:12.377 keeping an eye on other than just you know Ukraine 0:13:12.537 --> 0:13:15.297 and you know Israel slash Iran stuff. 0:13:16.417 --> 0:13:18.817 Yeah, the big one man is Taiwan and what happens 0:13:18.897 --> 0:13:21.137 there in the South China Sea. And the fundamental reason 0:13:21.137 --> 0:13:24.377 there is because of computer chips. We rely on Taiwan 0:13:24.697 --> 0:13:27.057 for the vast majority of the computer chips that go 0:13:27.137 --> 0:13:29.697 into lots of stuff, to include our military of course, 0:13:30.017 --> 0:13:32.977 but it basically is this this little island that is 0:13:33.097 --> 0:13:34.897 the responsible for modern life. 0:13:35.377 --> 0:13:37.657 And so if there is a war there, there's a. 0:13:37.617 --> 0:13:41.057 Cyber attack, an emp attack, whatever it might be, profound 0:13:41.257 --> 0:13:44.857 immediate effects on all of us everywhere, certainly in the homeland. 0:13:45.137 --> 0:13:47.377 The other piece that we are learning more about. 0:13:47.457 --> 0:13:48.977 Is China is embedding a lot of. 0:13:48.897 --> 0:13:52.337 This malware in our country to basically shut down modern 0:13:52.377 --> 0:13:54.657 life as well. So in the hours leading up to 0:13:54.737 --> 0:13:59.217 or post invasion of Taiwan's that flip gets switched. That's 0:13:59.217 --> 0:14:02.817 which gets flipped rather then you are looking at chaos 0:14:02.897 --> 0:14:06.377 anarchy inside of this country. The US president distracted to 0:14:07.017 --> 0:14:09.257 not defend Taiwan instead front of deal with all the 0:14:09.297 --> 0:14:13.057 anarchy here. China is has done that. That's a bult 0:14:13.057 --> 0:14:15.937 Typhoon is the group that has done it. So Taiwan 0:14:16.137 --> 0:14:17.457 is a big one for me, I know it is 0:14:17.457 --> 0:14:19.177 for a lot of other people. We could see some 0:14:19.217 --> 0:14:21.937 interesting conflicts also in the South China Sea or some 0:14:21.937 --> 0:14:24.537 of all these little second line islands. 0:14:24.897 --> 0:14:25.817 That's the big one for me. 0:14:26.977 --> 0:14:29.017 Brian before we let you go, and everybody check out 0:14:29.017 --> 0:14:31.457 the Right Report Brian's podcast where he dives into these 0:14:31.457 --> 0:14:34.257 issues and he's actually somebody who talks to national security 0:14:34.297 --> 0:14:36.057 issues who knows what he's talking about, which is nice 0:14:36.057 --> 0:14:37.457 because Brian, as you know, and I know a lot 0:14:37.457 --> 0:14:39.777 of people go on TV and like Scott doesn't know anything, 0:14:40.257 --> 0:14:42.257 uh a lot. 0:14:42.657 --> 0:14:44.257 Do you ever get somebody, do you ever get somebody 0:14:44.257 --> 0:14:45.857 to reach out to be like, hey, Buck, what do 0:14:45.897 --> 0:14:47.577 you think about this issue abroad? 0:14:47.617 --> 0:14:49.657 And you're like, oh, I think you know X y Z. 0:14:49.817 --> 0:14:52.537 And then they're on an hour an hour later. Yeah, 0:14:52.617 --> 0:14:57.737 of course all the time, yes, yeah, of course. If 0:14:57.777 --> 0:15:00.297 it's like a friend of mine, it's fine, but it's like, hey, dude, 0:15:00.777 --> 0:15:03.217 haven't heard from you in like five years? What do 0:15:03.257 --> 0:15:08.337 you think about the the Hooties? And I'll be like, Yemen, 0:15:10.217 --> 0:15:12.737 you're close buddy. Anyway, Yes, that that does happen to 0:15:12.737 --> 0:15:14.777 me with some frequency. So let me ask you before 0:15:14.777 --> 0:15:18.457 we let you go. You're you get to a you 0:15:18.537 --> 0:15:22.217 get to a sign a high school or no, let's 0:15:22.217 --> 0:15:29.057 say college, college level class on intelligence one spy novel? 0:15:29.937 --> 0:15:35.777 What is it? Oh man, God, Tinker Taylor Soldier Spy. 0:15:36.377 --> 0:15:38.377 I mean, come on that that that book? 0:15:38.617 --> 0:15:42.017 Yeah, amazing, can't go wrong, can't go okay? And and 0:15:42.497 --> 0:15:48.137 you get to show one movie about the agency to 0:15:48.297 --> 0:15:49.577 that intelligence class. 0:15:50.017 --> 0:15:53.657 What is it? Do you remember the old movie called 0:15:53.697 --> 0:15:56.697 The Recruit. I watched that on the bus going to 0:15:56.817 --> 0:15:58.537 the farm. It was a Calm Farrell. 0:15:58.777 --> 0:16:01.497 Yeah, I remember you like that movie. I thought that 0:16:01.537 --> 0:16:02.897 movie was so boring. 0:16:03.377 --> 0:16:05.617 He was he was awful. But the best part was 0:16:05.617 --> 0:16:07.617 I was on the bus going down to the farm. 0:16:07.377 --> 0:16:09.017 While I watched that, so I can tell fun stories 0:16:09.017 --> 0:16:11.097 about that. And we were all like, we gonna die? 0:16:11.337 --> 0:16:12.897 Is that what this is? Really? Like? Why are they 0:16:12.897 --> 0:16:15.017 showing us this movie as we go to the farm. 0:16:15.297 --> 0:16:18.737 This seems crazy anyway, that's only because there's a great 0:16:18.737 --> 0:16:19.257 memory there. 0:16:19.777 --> 0:16:21.937 And then you're just like riding around bicycles going to 0:16:21.937 --> 0:16:24.337 the mess hall. You're like, this isn't this isn't so bad, 0:16:24.417 --> 0:16:27.457 Like the farm is actually kind of cool. Yeah, I 0:16:28.137 --> 0:16:30.337 honestly always liked I always liked the farm. I mean, 0:16:30.377 --> 0:16:32.057 you know, I didn't spend as much time there as 0:16:32.057 --> 0:16:33.497 you did, but I liked it. I would. I would 0:16:33.497 --> 0:16:35.937 go and get to cool stuff and the things that 0:16:35.977 --> 0:16:39.377 go bang and things that go Yeah, it was pretty good. 0:16:39.417 --> 0:16:39.897 So wait, but you. 0:16:39.897 --> 0:16:41.377 Didn't give me your answer though, what what is the 0:16:41.377 --> 0:16:43.977 movie you that's the movie you wouldn't show? Okay, what 0:16:44.017 --> 0:16:44.737 would you show? 0:16:46.457 --> 0:16:50.057 Oh man? Look, I nothing comes to mind, And I'll 0:16:50.097 --> 0:16:52.697 tell you why all these shows represent. 0:16:52.257 --> 0:16:53.977 You like killing me. You gotta give me an answer. 0:16:54.137 --> 0:16:56.257 What about what about Spy Game with Redford? You got 0:16:56.297 --> 0:16:56.897 nothing for me? 0:16:57.777 --> 0:16:59.017 Oh man? 0:16:59.497 --> 0:17:02.057 I I you don't like Zero Dark thirty. 0:17:02.177 --> 0:17:03.697 I mean, I can't let you off the hot seat here. 0:17:03.777 --> 0:17:05.617 Zero Dark thirty doesn't get it done for you. 0:17:05.697 --> 0:17:08.697 Okay, fair enough, Zero Dark three? That was sold. That 0:17:08.777 --> 0:17:11.017 was absolutely brilliant. That is a lot of fun. There 0:17:11.017 --> 0:17:11.297 you go. 0:17:11.497 --> 0:17:14.417 Okay, that was all right, I'll throw you that Lifeline 0:17:14.497 --> 0:17:16.097 zero Dark thirty. Very well done for what it was. 0:17:16.137 --> 0:17:18.577 I thought it was pretty excellent. I also think Thirteen 0:17:18.617 --> 0:17:21.097 Hours because they just had the they just had the 0:17:21.177 --> 0:17:24.217 GRS guys as consultants, and I mean, I think that's 0:17:24.217 --> 0:17:27.937 a underrated movie and very good for what it is. 0:17:28.057 --> 0:17:30.057 A man, brother, and I'll tell you a lot of 0:17:30.057 --> 0:17:32.817 those that you're highlighted now, it's how it actually is. 0:17:32.817 --> 0:17:34.497 And that's why I hesitate with all of these movies. 0:17:34.497 --> 0:17:37.097 It TOCs you kind of the CI or the Hollywood version. 0:17:37.537 --> 0:17:39.257 Now you're getting the stuff of what it's really like 0:17:39.617 --> 0:17:41.297 and the painful stuff, the hard stuff. 0:17:41.457 --> 0:17:43.657 Yeah, I mean, I just I never got my exploding 0:17:43.697 --> 0:17:46.937 cufflinks or the laser guns in the headlights of my 0:17:46.977 --> 0:17:48.537 Asston Martin Like I was a little What. 0:17:48.497 --> 0:17:51.177 About the beautiful Little Lady? Would did you get one 0:17:51.177 --> 0:17:53.217 of those? Or is your wife going to listen to this? 0:17:53.457 --> 0:17:55.377 How are you going to respond? Let's be careful here. 0:17:55.617 --> 0:17:57.337 Bond girls, I don't even know. I don't even know 0:17:57.377 --> 0:17:59.177 what you're talking about. When I was in the agency, 0:17:59.177 --> 0:18:00.297 I don't even know if there was such a thing 0:18:00.337 --> 0:18:03.617 as bond girls. You you lest you lock it up. Sure, 0:18:04.057 --> 0:18:06.577