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Speaker 1: Here we go on a Thursday. We got a great

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Speaker 1: show today. There is so much going on. We're live.

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Speaker 1: It's the Herd wherever you may be and however you

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Speaker 1: may be listening. Thanks for making us part of your day. Well,

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Speaker 1: we've said this about show. Heyo Tani before. He makes

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Speaker 1: other great Dodgers look one dimensional. You can take all

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Speaker 1: stars like Aaron Judge. You're like, well that is a

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Speaker 1: helmal player. Yeah, but he doesn't pitch. He's not an

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Speaker 1: all star on the mount. That's what not just greatness.

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Speaker 1: That's where you have like disruptors. And Michael Jordan was great,

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Speaker 1: Lebron is great, Larry Bird was great, Magic was great.

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Speaker 1: Wemby last night did it again forty one points in

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Speaker 1: eighteen rebounds. But that's not the story. He did it

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Speaker 1: in twenty nine minutes. It's the third game this season

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Speaker 1: for Wemby forty plus points, ten plus rebounds in thirty

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Speaker 1: minutes or less. The Spurs are the only offense using

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Speaker 1: a microwave and a cooking contest. You're still preheating your oven.

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Speaker 1: The meals finished with eight minutes and thirty seconds left

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Speaker 1: in the second quarter. He was at twenty one to twelve.

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Speaker 1: That's an all Star night. I mean, it doesn'tbelieve even

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Speaker 1: early Lebron would play forty four minutes year three, Lebron,

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Speaker 1: who was the best we thought we'd ever seen, in

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Speaker 1: forty three minutes, he'd be at thirty one points, seven rebounds.

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Speaker 1: Wemby plays twenty nine minutes this year twenty five points,

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Speaker 3: This is this is crazy.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Michael Jordan, if he played against Wemby, would

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Speaker 1: be on the floor. Michael Jordan was amazing. Lebron's amazed.

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Speaker 1: They didn't change the calculus of the sport. That's what

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Speaker 1: Steph Curry did with three point shots. Forget the fact

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Speaker 1: that Wemby is twenty six and one in his last

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Speaker 1: twenty seven games, or it has four blocks, and that

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Speaker 1: leads to it's the plus four to thirty three when

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Speaker 1: he's on the floor. Those are all time historic numbers.

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Speaker 1: The ability. Now in the playoffs, he's going to play

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Speaker 1: far more numbers. So if you don't vote him MVP,

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Speaker 1: you're gonna look kind of silly when he's scoring fifty

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Speaker 1: in the playoffs in twenty four rebounds because he's playing

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Speaker 1: forty minutes. They are measuring him now. I mean, this

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Speaker 1: What in the hell are we experiencing? And when people

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Speaker 1: talk about Wemby, they always say things like I've never

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Speaker 1: seen him in person. It's like he's a walking, talking UAP.

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Speaker 1: Nobody knows what to make of it. How where what

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Speaker 1: I this is? I mean, I honestly watching him. The

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Speaker 1: best defensive player in the league for years was Draymond Green.

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Speaker 1: There are points Draymond can do anything. The only other

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Speaker 1: much is Jokic. Here's a stat for you. Only fifteen

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Speaker 1: other players in league history have had at least two

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Speaker 1: career games with forty points. Fifteen rebounds and a couple

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Speaker 1: three pointers. He's done it twice in the last three games,

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Speaker 1: and again he's doing it in like twenty eight minutes.

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Speaker 1: I can't overstate what's happening. It's just unbelievable that you

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Speaker 1: take great players Kareem all time. Kareem was playing an

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Speaker 1: entire game to put up these numbers, and Kareem could

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Speaker 1: Steve Kerr on last night's forty one, eighteen and twenty

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Speaker 4: I just think he's, uh, he's got unbelievable confidence now,

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Speaker 4: you know, he just looks like he knows exactly what

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Speaker 4: you know, I thought Draymond did a really good job

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Speaker 1: Steve Kerr said, hey, I thought Draymon did a really

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Speaker 1: good job. Dramon had four fouls in the first half.

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Speaker 1: You can't defend him. You cannot defend him.

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Speaker 1: I watched this documentary about two months ago by Dan Fara.

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Speaker 1: Disclosure and you get physicists saying, Okay, here's how it works.

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Speaker 1: I feel like with Wenby to some degree, if you've

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Speaker 1: and you'd never seen him play, you'd have to ask

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Speaker 1: a physicist, well, I mean, how is he getting the

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Speaker 1: best defensive I mean, like, what what is he doing

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Speaker 1: I mean, this is o tawny where you look at

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Speaker 1: Is he one dimensional compared to Otani? So, Fernando Mendoza

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Speaker 1: had his pro day yesterday. It's gonna be the number

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Speaker 1: one pick Raiders and he was literally perfect, But it's

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Speaker 1: not completing passes. I saw Lewis Riddick and a couple

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Speaker 1: others on the internet talked about this. He literally ound

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Speaker 1: to the NFL scouts they know how to run the

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Speaker 1: route tree and I'm gonna He literally told everybody, Kay,

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Speaker 1: this is what we're gonna do on this play because

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Speaker 1: he was so self aware and wanted to ensure that

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Speaker 1: he didn't get all the love that people there saw

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Speaker 1: how great as wide receivers were folks who were looking

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Speaker 1: at Peyton Manning. Peyton Manning was big, smart, self aware

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Speaker 1: and understood the NFL game. Leadership is not cool. It's

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Speaker 1: not cool. Leadership is hard. First in the building, first out.

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Speaker 1: Probably shouldn't drink alcohol during the season. Absolutely, no parties.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry. That's leadership. That's leadership. Watching more tape than

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Speaker 1: anybody in the building. Cam Newton was a huge talent,

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Speaker 1: but I always felt Cam was kind of concerned about

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Speaker 1: the ball was on the ground and Cam wouldn't dive

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Speaker 1: to get it. Leadership is always about one thing, winning.

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Speaker 1: Cam Newton liked to win. Wellhen that ball's on the ground,

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Speaker 1: It's like, bro, what are you doing? Don't worry about

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Speaker 1: what you look like. A lot of people want to

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Speaker 1: be quarterback. They love being quarterback, But do you love

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Speaker 1: being quarterback? Because it's about winning? And doing everything it

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Speaker 1: takes to be a winner, which is giving teammates credibility,

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Speaker 1: which is telling scouts this is the routes we're going

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Speaker 1: to be I want you to watch this guy in

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Speaker 1: the route we're going to be running.

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Speaker 3: No, bro, they came for you.

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Speaker 1: And there's been a lot of quarterbacks Kyler Murray, you know,

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Speaker 1: I could add the list. You know, Jay Cutler was

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Speaker 1: a guy like dude, stop being cool. Stop worrying about

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Speaker 1: being cool? Are you about winning? Not about what the

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Speaker 1: image of quarterback is, but what the reality of it is,

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Speaker 1: and sometimes the reality of it is cringey.

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Speaker 3: I love Sam Darnald.

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Speaker 1: Sam Darnald was twenty in New York City, small town

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Speaker 1: kid in California. He was not ready for New York.

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Speaker 1: Sam and I love Sam, and Sam's a mature guy.

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Speaker 1: But Sam would acknowledge to you I wasn't ready for it.

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Speaker 1: I was twenty years old. It was the big city,

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Speaker 1: it was New York, and there are significant sacrifices you

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Speaker 1: have to make as a quarterback. And there's just certain

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Speaker 1: guys that come into this league. I have said before,

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Speaker 1: the hat on backwards thing. I could care less if

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Speaker 1: you're a wide receiver, a safety, a mic linebacker, a guard,

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Speaker 3: I don't care. I do not care.

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Speaker 1: But if you're a quarterback on Wednesday and you're representing

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Speaker 1: a franchise and behind you is the bank sponsor, turn

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Speaker 1: that puppy around. You don't want to look like a

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Speaker 1: guy that's been paid to move my couch. Okay, look

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Speaker 1: like a franchise quarterback. You gonna be the highest paid

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Speaker 1: guy on the team. And a lot of people are

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Speaker 1: saying this guy is a little cringey, and he's not cool,

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Speaker 1: and he's a little he's Peyton Manning. He's exactly what

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Speaker 1: I want. Here's Lance zerl NFL dot com.

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Speaker 6: What you see is what you get with Fernando Mendoza.

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Speaker 6: There's no real heirs. I hear people talk about it.

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Speaker 6: He's kind of corny, he's.

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Speaker 7: This or that.

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Speaker 6: I like guys who throw touchdowns and don't throw interceptions,

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Speaker 6: and who throw it the accuracy and who are six

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Speaker 2: That's just me.

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Speaker 6: So you can keep your corny this at and you

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Speaker 6: can keep your cool quarterbacks. I'll keep guys who throw

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Speaker 6: touchdowns and don't give it away in the in the

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Speaker 6: red zone. It was thirty nine touchdowns no interceptions in

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Speaker 6: the red zone over the last two years. I mean,

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Speaker 6: and that's in one of those years is a cow

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Speaker 6: that's pretty impressive.

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Speaker 1: You know what, I've never bought ever in my life

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Speaker 1: a jersey of a pro athlete, and you'll I've never

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Speaker 1: once in my life. I'm gonna buy a Mendoza jersey.

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Speaker 1: In fact, I'm gonna buy a twenty of them and

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Speaker 1: try to get one autographed. I'm gonna have them all

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Speaker 1: over my house. And when my wife comes up and

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Speaker 1: says that's not cool, I'm gonna say, hey, so the

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Speaker 1: leadership's about. I'm gonna have one in the kitchen. I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna have one in the I'm gonna have one in

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Speaker 1: my podcast room, in the bathroom. I mean, Mendozah jerseys

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Speaker 1: all over my house. I know it's not cool. I

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Speaker 1: know it's cringey. I'm telling you right now. All these

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Speaker 1: NFL scouts they keep telling me the things they don't

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Speaker 1: like this kid. I know it's the Raiders and they

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Speaker 1: have no culture. The second they draft him, the Raiders

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Speaker 1: have a culture. I don't care who the coach is,

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Speaker 1: I don't care who the GM is. I don't care

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Speaker 1: who the owner is the second he enters the building.

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Speaker 1: You have a culture that is a franchise quarterback between

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Speaker 1: Wemby and Fernando Mendoza. I made buy two jersey. I've

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Speaker 1: never once in my life bought a jersey from an athlete.

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Speaker 1: I'm getting close, j MC. I know you got about

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Speaker 1: thirty of them, all Lakers.

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Speaker 1: Great Rage, none of the bull and Edwards said, I'm

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Speaker 9: Did you see what the Boston Celtics did last night, Colin?

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Speaker 8: I'd rather face Detroit. Who are you more scared of

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Speaker 8: the Lakers Colin. One of the biggest NBA games of

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Speaker 2: They just stay steady, you know, they just stay steady.

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Speaker 1: league when they won the title. They were not a

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Speaker 1: great defensive team. So can the Lakers be situationally? You

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Speaker 1: know long Marcus smart on the floor. Can they be

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Speaker 1: occasionally in big fourth quarter three to go you need

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Speaker 1: to stop? That's They're not the Knicks, and the Lakers

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Speaker 1: will never be great teams with this personnel.

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Speaker 3: You'd have to make a trade.

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Speaker 1: But that doesn't mean you can't can't can't block a shot,

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Speaker 1: that doesn't mean you can't make plays.

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Speaker 9: I totally agree with all that.

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Speaker 8: Now, the Lakers and Luke are putting out an MVP campaign.

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Speaker 8: I think they're sick of this media loving SGA nonsense.

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Speaker 8: Look at this numbers don't lie, Colin. I'm just telling

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Speaker 8: you right now, the reality I love Wenby is an

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Speaker 8: MVP candidate. Luca has all the numbers, okay all of them.

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Speaker 8: When you sack him up next to SGA. I mean,

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Speaker 8: it is unbelievable how good he's been and he's getting

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Speaker 8: no respect some of these Laker bloggers. I know you

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Speaker 8: can have disdain for them. I'm just telling you they're

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Speaker 8: they're looking into it. There is a clear Laker bias

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Speaker 8: the last fifteen years when it comes to awards Coach

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Speaker 8: of the Year, six man, most approved, Lakers are getting

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Speaker 8: no love. I mean it's a little crazy. I don't

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Speaker 8: want to send you over the edge here.

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Speaker 1: Listen to win awards that your team has to be good.

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Speaker 1: How many really good Laker teams have there been? Go

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Speaker 1: to the last four years of the Lake Kobe Bryant. Wait,

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Speaker 1: I mean they Lebron came to the Lakers and saved

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Speaker 1: the franchise.

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Speaker 3: They were a disaster.

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Speaker 9: Why does the team have to be good?

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Speaker 8: These are individual awards MVP Most Valuable in the NFL.

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Speaker 3: Plays players have ever won the MVP, well, not last, but.

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Speaker 8: I mean if you're third or fourth, who cares. If

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Speaker 8: your team is really good and you're amazing, you're the

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Speaker 8: most Valuable Player. I don't know this has GA stuff.

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Speaker 8: I listen, I'm rooting Lakers tomorrow. I think you're probably

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Speaker 8: gonna have fun with it. It should be a good

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Speaker 8: game today. I will be texting if the Lakers win this,

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Speaker 8: I'll be in summer five Laker games they won. I

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Speaker 8: was busy that night, but tonight I have availability to watch.

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Speaker 8: Final story is called to the NFL. Piggybacking off your

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Speaker 8: Mendoza take at the top. I mean, we've been on

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Speaker 8: this for weeks. The Raiders are gonna sign Kirk Cousins

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Speaker 8: to mentor Mendoza. Reports indicate Cousins will make twenty mil

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Speaker 8: and guaranteed money, which is a little insane if you

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Speaker 8: ask me. Cousins is excited to wear the sob and

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Speaker 8: black he put out on social media, the Autumn Wind.

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Speaker 8: Everybody's excited. Now this is the only time they lose me.

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Speaker 8: Kubiak is saying it sounds like he wants Kirk Cousins

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Speaker 8: to start, and I think this is gonna be a

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Speaker 8: fun offseason discussion.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I totally disagree.

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Speaker 1: Can I give two teams I don't give credit too much,

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Speaker 1: A lot of credit, please the Atlanta Falcons and the Raiders. Okay,

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Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins is literally the perfect veteran quarterback to team

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Speaker 1: with Fernando Mendoz he's literally personality, commitment, decency, just a

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Speaker 1: great guy. And Tua is the perfect backup for Michael

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Speaker 1: Pennix because it left hander not terribly athletic. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I I've said this for years. If Lamar Jackson's your quarterback,

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Speaker 1: then your backup better be able to move. The Ravens

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Speaker 1: have that if you got if your quarterback is Jared Goff,

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Speaker 1: you probably don't want to have Kyler Murray as your backup,

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Speaker 1: right because it's Stylistically it's different, it's a different concept. Offensively,

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Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins and Mendoz, I don't care who starts in

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Speaker 1: the first month. That's that's exactly who I would take.

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Speaker 1: I'm telling you the last fifteen years, the Raiders have

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Speaker 1: never made more since in like a seven week stretch

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Speaker 1: between free agency, Mendoza and the I cannot wait to

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Speaker 1: watch the Raiders draft. Man.

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Speaker 8: I think I can be convinced of some stuff I

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Speaker 8: could come. I'm I'm a big man enough that I'll

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Speaker 8: come off positions when i think I'm wrong. This Mendoza one,

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Speaker 8: I need him out there week one. Colin, he is

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Speaker 8: your franchise. You're moving in a totally different direction. New

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Speaker 8: regime new head coach. I need to hit the ground

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Speaker 8: running with Mendoz. I just I cannot envision Kirk Cousins

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Speaker 8: starting week one, Like why so he can?

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Speaker 9: So Mendoza can watch and hold a clipboard and what

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Speaker 9: the NFL is like.

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Speaker 1: Come on, there's a reason they call him internships. You know.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes a young spark he needs to sit and watch

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Speaker 1: the mentor the professional get it done.

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Speaker 3: Ah, sparky J Mack with a.

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Speaker 2: New Well, that's the news, and thanks for stopping by

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Speaker 2: the herd Line news listen.

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Speaker 1: I know it has been over the last year or

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Speaker 1: two hard to defend the front office times of the

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Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills. Brandon Bean, I'm going to defend him here.

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Speaker 1: So Mike Sando, who does a great job for the

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Speaker 1: other place, great reporter, talk to NFL executives anonymously and

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Speaker 1: unfiltered on the Buffalo Bills. Those of executives did not

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Speaker 1: like the DJ Moore move. In fact, quote DJ Moore

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Speaker 1: was gonna get cut. They gave up a second round

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Speaker 1: pick to get him. They gave up a second round

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Speaker 1: pick in forty million guarantees.

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Speaker 9: What is going on?

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Speaker 1: DJ Moore has two years of regression, said another exec

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Speaker 1: He's a non traditional receiver. He wins with size and

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Speaker 1: yards after the cash. Don't they need somebody they can

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Speaker 1: win down the field? Okay, this drives me crazy. I

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Speaker 1: should not be able to know this, and execs and

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Speaker 1: agents and gms don't. When you play in cold, windy

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Speaker 1: locations like Buffalo, and I don't care that they have

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Speaker 1: a new stadium and it'll cut down the wind. It's

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Speaker 1: going to be cold and wet and windy in Buffalo.

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Speaker 1: I want catch and run guys, multiple I'm not interested

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Speaker 1: in over the top guys.

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Speaker 3: And I'll give you an example.

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Speaker 1: Randy Moss, Tom Brady, who by the way, never won

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Speaker 1: Super Bowls, but Wes Welker, Gronk Edelman, catch and run guys.

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Speaker 1: Oh got a trophy room. Randy Moss with Brady in

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Speaker 1: the two thousand and seven regular season, ninety three yards

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Speaker 1: a game, twenty three touchdowns. In that same year in

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Speaker 1: the playoffs, you know, January, it's cold. In three games,

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Speaker 1: he averaged thirty one yards and had one TV Yeah.

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Speaker 1: In that postseason in two thousand and seven, that big

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Speaker 1: Randy Moss year against the Jags and thirty seven degrees

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Speaker 1: one catch against the Chargers, twenty three degrees one catch

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Speaker 1: against the Giants.

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Speaker 3: Indoors in Arizona.

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Speaker 1: Randy went back to Randy five catches sixty five yards

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Speaker 1: in a touchdown.

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Speaker 3: Weather matters for deep threats Tyreek Hill.

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Speaker 1: So essentially the great Randy Moss with the greatest quarterback

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Speaker 1: ever and Randy maybe the greatest wide receiver talent ever.

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Speaker 1: Essentially a third of his stats catches, yards, touchdowns in January.

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Speaker 1: He had about a third of what he did during

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Speaker 1: the regular season. Go look at Tyreek Hill in his career,

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Speaker 1: two least productive months in the career of Tyreek Hill.

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Speaker 3: Oh, that's interesting with Mahomes and Tua. December and January. Well,

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Speaker 3: that's funny. What could it be?

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Speaker 1: In the AFC Baltimore, now vrabel In New England, Denver, Burrow.

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Speaker 1: Go look at all the good teams in the AFC.

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Speaker 1: They're all playing outdoors in cold weather. Well, Bills have

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Speaker 1: a new stadium, it's still going to be nine degrees

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Speaker 1: and really cold, and wind is somehow going to get

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Speaker 1: in there a little. So for northern football teams, I mean,

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Speaker 1: go look at the AFC, Kansas City, Cincinnati, Buffalo, Baltimore,

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Speaker 1: New England. It's all cold weather, outdoor stuff. And so

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Speaker 1: Dj Moore is not a beat everybody down the field guy.

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Speaker 1: He's a catch and run underneath guy. And you could say, well,

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Speaker 1: the Bills already have one the guy from Boise State.

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Speaker 3: You can't have two.

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Speaker 1: I actually like the way the Bills offense is built

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Speaker 1: run game and tight ends. I think that's actually I

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Speaker 1: think Brandon Bean's right. I think that if you are

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Speaker 1: a general manager of a Buffalo franchise, you should be

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Speaker 1: a tight end run team and your receiver should be

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Speaker 1: catch and run guys, not beat you down the field guys.

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Speaker 1: Because Buffalo is to the point with Josh Allen, it's

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Speaker 1: not about October eighteenth, it's about January seventh, January fifteenth.

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Speaker 1: I am amazed that anybody would bang it. And you

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Speaker 1: could say two years of regression. Okay, So let's look

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Speaker 1: at the two years of regression for DJ Moore. Two

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Speaker 1: years ago, they were the most dysfunctional franchise in the league.

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Speaker 1: They had a parking lot attendant as a head coach.

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Speaker 1: By the end of the year, you think that played

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Speaker 1: to it. And then last year, well they went and

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Speaker 1: drafted Luther Burton and Colston Lovelin became a star in

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Speaker 1: the League. He didn't regress because he couldn't play. His

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Speaker 1: numbers went down because they have a new coach, a

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Speaker 1: new offense which really caught fire, like mid October, late October,

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Speaker 1: and they had so many darn weapons. They have two

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Speaker 1: running backs. I like, two tight ends. I liked Luther

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Speaker 1: Burden got fired Colston Lovelin. DJ Moore isn't regressing two

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Speaker 1: years ago. I mean the Bears were just literally names

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Speaker 1: out of a hat. Put the headset on. You're the coordinator.

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Speaker 1: Of course, his numbers went down.

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Speaker 3: Randy moff when he went to the Raiders, where'd he go?

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Speaker 3: He went to Brady?

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Speaker 2: Numbers went up.

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Speaker 3: Funny how it works.

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Speaker 1: You got to contextualize some of this stuff, right. You

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Speaker 1: can't just, you know, go and talk to Mike Sando

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Speaker 1: and throw these haymakers at Buffalo.

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Speaker 3: I think DJ.

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Speaker 1: Here's Joe Brady, the new coach, who, by the way,

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Speaker 1: worked with d J Moore down in Carolina.

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Speaker 3: They got it, they were great together. Here's Joe Brady.

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Speaker 12: Khalil's been a focal ponamer offense, right, and having a

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Speaker 12: guy like DJ that it's going to help both of them.

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Speaker 12: Given a guy like DJ on the outside that you

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Speaker 12: can kind of work. Okay, where's the rotation going to be,

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Speaker 12: how they're going to handle it's that's where it was.

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Speaker 12: It was important to get a skill set like DJ,

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Speaker 12: a guy that can stretch it and win the one

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Speaker 12: on ones, can get the ball in his hands, and

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Speaker 12: went on a slant round and kind if there's nothing

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Speaker 12: better as a coach, and we only have to throw

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Speaker 12: the ball two yards and they go eighty and it

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Speaker 12: makes us look really good.

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Speaker 3: And a guy like DJ does that, just like Khalil.

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Speaker 1: You go ask any of the Chicago Bear players, you

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Speaker 1: go ask him about DJ Moore. DJ more can ball.

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Speaker 1: DJ Moore is a really good guy. Never miss his starts.

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Speaker 1: He's played in cold weather Chicago, been hurt, been banged up,

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Speaker 1: never miss his starts, one hundred percent baller. I don't

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Speaker 1: buy the regression stuff. You got to contextualize it. Two

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Speaker 1: years ago they were a circus, the Bears were.

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Speaker 2: It was a mess.

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Speaker 1: And then last year, new coach, new system, Luther Burden

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Speaker 1: takes off, Loveland takes off. You got cole Comet, you

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Speaker 1: got Roma Dunza, you got two, but you got a

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Speaker 1: seventh round running back at.

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Speaker 3: A Rutger who's getting carries.

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Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays

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Speaker 8: Crown continues live from Las Vegas tonight as Stanford takes

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Speaker 1: As I have said, there was a lot of pushback

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Speaker 1: with the nil and I kind of rolled my eyes

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Speaker 1: at the fearmongers who said, well, the rich will only

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Speaker 1: get richer. Yeah, pre nil, it was basically Bama and

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Speaker 1: Georgia and Ohio State or Clemson in every national championship.

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Speaker 1: It was already happening. And this year the Indiana Hoosiers

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Speaker 1: went sixteen to zero, proving my point. It would broaden

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Speaker 1: things out. We'd have new powers. Texas Tech, Indiana, Miami

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Speaker 1: re emerged after twenty years of swimming around in nonsense.

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Speaker 1: There is no interest, there is no social even in

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Speaker 1: socialistic countries, there's a top and a bottom. Like get

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Speaker 1: over this, like silly juvenile idealism that Purdue it should

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Speaker 1: be just as good as Georgia and football. It's probably

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Speaker 1: not going to happen. It may if a booster stands up,

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Speaker 1: but it's probably not going to happen. So Iron Eagle

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Speaker 1: was on with Ryan Rossillo. He's calling these games, and

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Speaker 1: he had his doubts about NIL, but he no longer does.

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Speaker 13: When we figured out that the transfer portal was going

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Speaker 13: to basically be free agency, because that's what it is,

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Speaker 13: it's free agency in college basketball, I didn't know if

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Speaker 13: the tournament would lose a little bit of its luster

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Speaker 13: because people weren't seeing teams develop. It's proven to me

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Speaker 13: that people love rooting for their school, and they love

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Speaker 13: rooting for the name on the front of the jersey,

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Speaker 13: and the name of the back of the jersey is important.

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Speaker 13: But in terms of priorities, they just love their squad.

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Speaker 1: And what the NIL has done is made their squad

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Speaker 1: at Arizona and Michigan and Illinois even better. The one

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Speaker 1: thing that you cannot argue, it's not arguable, is that

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Speaker 1: the quality of college basketball the number of NBA players

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Speaker 1: on teams has doubled or tripled. Arizona plays Michigan this weekend,

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Speaker 1: there's gonna be like eight NBA guys. I'm sorry, I

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Speaker 1: like better basketball players. I mean, you ever watched basketball

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Speaker 1: NBA like in the sixties, even with the Celtics. You

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Speaker 1: ever watched how bad it was like a college basketball

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Speaker 1: when Duke was meeting Butler in the finaland teams are

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Speaker 1: shooting thirty one percent? Is I mean Virginia was winning

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Speaker 1: tournament games scoring forty four points forty eight points. That's

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Speaker 1: not good basketball. Stop bragging about how great the defense was.

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Speaker 1: People couldn't hit open jumpers because you had maybe two

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Speaker 1: teams and one or two NBA guys and they were eighteen.

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Speaker 1: The fact that you can get Yaxel Lennenberg for Michigan,

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Speaker 1: who would have in the old days gone pro last

685
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Speaker 1: year comes back, that's an NBA do That's a starting

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Speaker 1: NBA player playing college. Arizona's got about four of them.

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Speaker 1: And you know what, you can't be precious or idealistic.

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Speaker 1: You know what the NIL is to me, it's the

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Speaker 1: ABS system in baseball that overwhelmingly it's good, but it's

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Speaker 1: not perfect.

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Speaker 3: Nil. We need more regulation.

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Speaker 1: It's a little bit. You know, it's like baseball no

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Speaker 1: salary cap. You know, I'd like to have some floor

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Speaker 1: or some middle, you know, just like the portal. Even

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Speaker 1: the NFL has limitations on free agency, like you got

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Speaker 1: to wrap your arms around it. But ninety nine percent

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Speaker 1: of the things that the NIL does are great. It's

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Speaker 1: the same with the ABS system in baseball. Ninety nine

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Speaker 1: out of one hundred pitches they nail. There is a

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Speaker 1: little bit of a can concern for balls that sink

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Speaker 1: like a sinker ball pitcher. The system will catch the

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Speaker 1: ball at the beginning of the plate and it'll be

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Speaker 1: a strike or vice versa, but it'll sink out of

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Speaker 1: it right and in the rule book that should be

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Speaker 1: a ball if you're just a strike at the start

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Speaker 1: of the plate, but not to the mid right.

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Speaker 3: So the ABS system.

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Speaker 1: Quickly sinking balls can be a little bit of a

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Speaker 1: quirk to the system.

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Speaker 3: It's not perfect, but there is no perfect.

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Speaker 1: It's way better than before when you got umpires butchering

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Speaker 1: twenty six strike calls in a series or a game

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Speaker 1: like last Saturday Red Sox Reds that you can't tolerate

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Speaker 1: in Major League Baseball. If it occasionally misses a ninety

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Speaker 1: two mile an hour sinker.

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Speaker 3: I can live with that.

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Speaker 1: And here's the other benefit to the NIL on the

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Speaker 1: very personal level with these young players. So Matt Hasselbeck

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Speaker 1: comes on our show during the football season, second hour,

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Speaker 1: top of the second hour. He's been going to years

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Speaker 1: to the NFL Combine talking with young athletes about financial literacy,

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Speaker 1: and he told us, I think it was off the

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Speaker 1: air for years and years. He would go, these kids

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Speaker 1: didn't know anything. They're all raising their hands, agents, managers, taxes, steps,

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Speaker 1: they don't know. They didn't know anything. And you'd hear

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Speaker 1: these stories about pro athletes going broke all the time.

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Speaker 1: They do documentaries on it. Matt has told us in

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Speaker 1: the last two years, these kids now they know agents,

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Speaker 1: tax rates, where to live, what to avoid, managers fees.

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Speaker 1: They've got financial literacy. And listen, fifty year old people

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Speaker 1: do dumb stuff with money, so of course nineteen year

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Speaker 1: olds do. But at least now they're getting some broad education.

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Speaker 1: I mean, at these top basketball programs for the bench players,

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Speaker 1: they're getting two fifty I mean, think about in college.

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Speaker 1: I lived on top ramen and putting in college, the

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Speaker 1: bench players at the top schools are making two hundred

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Speaker 1: and fifty thousand, enough to not get in too much trouble,

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Speaker 1: but enough to be a dopey nineteen year old and

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Speaker 1: blow it on stupid stuff.

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Speaker 3: Now the top guys are getting a million or more.

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Speaker 1: But it's and when you go to the NBA, I

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Speaker 1: always say this, you know, with my wife, I'm always like,

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Speaker 1: I'd rather my kids have a little money when I'm alive.

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Speaker 1: So if I tend to pass on something, they're not clueless.

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Speaker 1: I'd rather be there and be instructive, you know, enjoy

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Speaker 1: it while I'm around, not just give them a big

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Speaker 1: tankload or a small tankload later and they don't know what.

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Speaker 5: To do with it.

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Speaker 1: So the NIL is like, it's a little like a

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Speaker 1: parent giving you just enough money to get in a

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Speaker 1: little trouble and do something stupid, but not in big trouble.

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Speaker 1: And it's giving you great financial literacy. And I think

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Speaker 1: it's going to all these stories about athletes going broke

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Speaker 1: are slowly disappearing. They it's just enough, Hasselbeck tells us

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Speaker 1: kids to have so much more financial literacy. So that's

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Speaker 1: kind of the unintended benefit of the paying is. You know,

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Speaker 1: isn't college about educating kids? And haven't we all complained

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Speaker 1: in our lives that why don't you have a class

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Speaker 1: on real estate? They should be teaching that in high school.

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Speaker 1: Financial literacy should be a class. It shouldn't be economics.

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Speaker 2: One oh one.

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Speaker 1: It's like what to do when you get two hundred

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Speaker 1: and ninety thousand dollars at seventeen years old. That's the

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Speaker 1: courses we should be teaching in high school because there's

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Speaker 1: thousands and tens of thousands of high schoolers now getting

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Speaker 1: paid within IL.

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Speaker 3: All right, j Mac, Yeah, you're all worked up.

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Speaker 9: You're all worked up on a Thursday.

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Speaker 1: I'm telling you the ABS system in the NIL we

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Speaker 1: have to be careful not to expect perfect. Our tax

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Speaker 1: system has loopholes, it gets. I mean, we've amended our

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Speaker 1: constitution to stop being precious about perfect. It's just like

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Speaker 1: in politics, you give to get. You've got to me conciliatory.

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Speaker 1: I want this, well, then you got to accept that

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Speaker 1: and the bill will pass. That's our entire political system.

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Speaker 1: You give a little to get a lot and N

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Speaker 1: I L and ABS aren't perfect. But the ABS system is.

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Speaker 1: It's like another it's a it's a it's an entertainment

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Speaker 1: addition to a sport. It's like a niche added entertainment

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Speaker 1: division in the baseball industry. Our number two coming up,

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Speaker 1: Steph Curry's dad Del Currim shows that