1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:03,040 Speaker 1: This is John, this is Sam, your og Okay Storytime 2 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:07,000 Speaker 1: podcast hosts. We have some spectacular stories coming up, but 3 00:00:07,080 --> 00:00:09,280 Speaker 1: real quick we get a two minute break from our 4 00:00:09,440 --> 00:00:11,320 Speaker 1: lovely sponsors keeping this ship sailing. 5 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:15,320 Speaker 2: My best friend is furious I got pregnant during her 6 00:00:15,560 --> 00:00:20,400 Speaker 2: wedding year because I'm stealing her shine. Trigger warnings missage, Okay, 7 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:24,880 Speaker 2: so let this be no uh, there's a trigger warning here. 8 00:00:25,200 --> 00:00:28,080 Speaker 2: Please if you don't want to listen to that, click off. 9 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:30,840 Speaker 2: Best friend thirty one female and I thirty one female, 10 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:33,680 Speaker 2: have been best friends for over twelve years, since we 11 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:37,760 Speaker 2: were nineteen and roommates in college. She lives thirteen hundred 12 00:00:37,760 --> 00:00:39,960 Speaker 2: miles away from me, so most of our friendship has 13 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:42,160 Speaker 2: been long distance, minus the year that we live together 14 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:42,839 Speaker 2: in college. 15 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:45,320 Speaker 3: By the way, this comes from Personality No. 16 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:47,360 Speaker 2: Twenty five thirty six, And if you want to submit 17 00:00:47,400 --> 00:00:49,200 Speaker 2: your own stories, just go to the r slash Okay 18 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:53,640 Speaker 2: Storytime subbreddits. Come on, put all that that venting into 19 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:58,320 Speaker 2: the sub vent So my best friend has been there 20 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:01,800 Speaker 2: for me through some incredible difficult times, and I've been 21 00:01:01,800 --> 00:01:04,280 Speaker 2: there for her as well. She helped me when I 22 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 2: was twenty to get out of an abusive home and 23 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:09,200 Speaker 2: a few years ago when I was so severely depressed 24 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:12,440 Speaker 2: that I had to go to an inpatient treatment. In turn, 25 00:01:12,560 --> 00:01:16,360 Speaker 2: I supported her through every breakup both with friends and partners, 26 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:19,120 Speaker 2: her dad nearly passing away of COVID, the loss of 27 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:22,360 Speaker 2: her pets, and more. Wow, so you've been there, You 28 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:25,480 Speaker 2: have been there through it all. To say that we 29 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:27,560 Speaker 2: have been there for each other through everything would be 30 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:30,640 Speaker 2: an understatement, at least in my eyes. That being said, 31 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:32,640 Speaker 2: we are not the same nineteen year old kids we 32 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:35,080 Speaker 2: were when we first met. She has done some things 33 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:38,560 Speaker 2: that upset me, but I've moved on from them. For example, 34 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:40,760 Speaker 2: when I was turning thirty, I planned a trip to 35 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:44,320 Speaker 2: Disney World to celebrate. Disney is particularly special for both 36 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 2: of us with my family. Her birthday is exactly seven 37 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 2: days before mine, and technically I was flying into Disney 38 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:54,480 Speaker 2: World on her birthday, but not going into the park. 39 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 2: We had no plans at all to see each other 40 00:01:56,960 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 2: on each other's birthdays. When I told her months prior 41 00:01:59,880 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 2: that I was going to Disney for my thirtieth, she 42 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:04,520 Speaker 2: cried and ghosted me for a couple of days, having 43 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:07,360 Speaker 2: a meltdown because she couldn't handle me going to Disney 44 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:10,799 Speaker 2: on her birthday. While she didn't have the ability to go, 45 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:16,120 Speaker 2: come on, come on, oh man, my goodness. To fix this, 46 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 2: she and her now fiance then partner decided to max 47 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 2: out a credit card and go themselves. 48 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:22,639 Speaker 3: Hey. 49 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 2: Hey, they went about six months before my trip, and 50 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 2: that's when they got engaged. 51 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 3: At the time, I was super confused and upset. 52 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:33,919 Speaker 2: I didn't understand why I couldn't just go to Disney 53 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 2: without her freaking out about it. But she went before me, 54 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 2: and I didn't care. If that's what she needed to 55 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 2: do to process, then whatever. Yeah, I left it alone 56 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:45,520 Speaker 2: and we went back to normal. Another situation happened about 57 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:48,240 Speaker 2: a year ago when I lost my job. Truthfully, I 58 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:52,800 Speaker 2: had life ending thoughts and negative and trauma dumped on 59 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 2: her too much, which strained our friendship. Rightfully, so after 60 00:02:56,200 --> 00:02:58,919 Speaker 2: apologizing and doing therapy work, we got back to normal. 61 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:01,440 Speaker 2: I'm not perfect, but I've always tried to be thoughtful 62 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:04,560 Speaker 2: and accountable when I've messed up. Thankfully, I've been in 63 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:07,000 Speaker 2: a far healthier place mentally for over a year now 64 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:10,000 Speaker 2: and this hasn't been an issue again. Now to the 65 00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:13,400 Speaker 2: situation at hand, I've been married to my husband for 66 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:14,519 Speaker 2: nearly seven years. 67 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 4: Wow. 68 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:16,320 Speaker 3: She who was my maid of honor. 69 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 1: Wow. 70 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:20,920 Speaker 2: I have always wanted children, and she has always known this. She, 71 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:24,880 Speaker 2: on the other hand, has never wanted children, and that's okay. 72 00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:27,360 Speaker 2: My husband and I started trying for a baby about 73 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:29,280 Speaker 2: a year or two ago, but when I lost my job, 74 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 2: we put it on hold. Once I got a new 75 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:34,520 Speaker 2: job and we were financially stable again, we decided to 76 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:37,440 Speaker 2: go off birth control and start trying in October twenty 77 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:37,880 Speaker 2: twenty four. 78 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:39,360 Speaker 3: She knew this. 79 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:43,080 Speaker 2: I also live in a state where pregnancy termination is 80 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 2: completely illegal, and she does not. My husband and I 81 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 2: have always wanted two kids, though we'd be okay if 82 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:50,400 Speaker 2: one pregnancy. 83 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:50,800 Speaker 3: Was too difficult for me. 84 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 2: Of course, I know women have children past thirty five, 85 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:57,040 Speaker 2: but the risks increase being in a state where I 86 00:03:57,080 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 2: wouldn't have access to a medically necessary pregnancy termining. We 87 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 2: didn't want to try for children past thirty five if 88 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 2: we could help it, so we decided to start now 89 00:04:06,440 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 2: since I'm already thirty one. Meanwhile, my best friend has 90 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 2: been engaged for almost two years. By the time they 91 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:15,360 Speaker 2: get married this year, it will have been two point 92 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:18,919 Speaker 2: five years. I am and was her maid of honor, 93 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 2: just as she was for mine. On January second, I 94 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:23,719 Speaker 2: found out I was pregnant, and my husband and I 95 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:24,920 Speaker 2: were so happy. 96 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:25,839 Speaker 3: Congratulations boom. 97 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:28,599 Speaker 2: I told my sister first, and then I told my 98 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:31,120 Speaker 2: best friend because I figured that if the worst happened, 99 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:33,279 Speaker 2: she and my sister would be the ones there for me. 100 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:35,919 Speaker 2: When she answered the phone, the first thing that she 101 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:40,560 Speaker 2: said was so, when are you do and immediately started 102 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:43,760 Speaker 2: talking about her wedding, asking if I'd still be pregnant 103 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:46,480 Speaker 2: by then. My due date was about six weeks before 104 00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:50,360 Speaker 2: her wedding. I could tell instantly that she was upset 105 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:53,400 Speaker 2: that I was pregnant. I have a lot of trauma 106 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:55,560 Speaker 2: in my life, and I tend to cope by people pleasing. 107 00:04:55,920 --> 00:04:58,360 Speaker 2: I could tell she was upset, so I started placating her, 108 00:04:58,440 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 2: saying I knew that the timing wasn't deal and that 109 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:03,040 Speaker 2: I didn't want a baby in September either because there 110 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:05,800 Speaker 2: were already so many birthdays in my family that month, 111 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:08,720 Speaker 2: and basically tried to convince her that it would be okay. 112 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:11,480 Speaker 2: I even asked her if she was mad at me, 113 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:15,440 Speaker 2: because I knew she was. After that phone call, she 114 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:19,760 Speaker 2: ghosted me for four days, barely replying to my texts, 115 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:24,520 Speaker 2: only giving short responses. Finally, after four days, she told 116 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:26,840 Speaker 2: me to call her so that we could talk. That 117 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:29,359 Speaker 2: call lasted about an hour and a half, where I 118 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:32,479 Speaker 2: basically coddled her and reassured her that I did not 119 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:36,000 Speaker 2: plan to miss her wedding and that this didn't change anything. 120 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:39,159 Speaker 2: The only difference would be that I'd have to wear 121 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:43,159 Speaker 2: postpartum diapers under my dress. We aren't drinkers, so her 122 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:46,279 Speaker 2: bachelorette party was never going to be some wild Vegas rager. 123 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:48,800 Speaker 2: I didn't see how my pregnancy and then having a 124 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:52,800 Speaker 2: newborn by her wedding would impact anything. My husband and 125 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:55,559 Speaker 2: I have a strong family support system, so we knew 126 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:58,800 Speaker 2: we could have family watch the baby, or even fly 127 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:00,800 Speaker 2: up there with the babies so I could be there 128 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 2: for my best friend on her big day. I had 129 00:06:03,520 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 2: to practically beg her to understand that I wasn't abandoning her, 130 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:10,599 Speaker 2: and even apologized for adding a wrench into her wedding plan. 131 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:12,919 Speaker 2: That's ridiculous, That's not ridiculous. 132 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:15,680 Speaker 3: It's not a wrench. You are living. Your life does 133 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:18,159 Speaker 3: not stop because she's getting married the next day, on 134 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:20,280 Speaker 3: the literal anniversary of our friendship. 135 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:23,520 Speaker 2: She texted me saying that she wanted another follow up call. 136 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:27,560 Speaker 2: Apparently she was okay now, but her fiance just couldn't 137 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 2: handle this, and she wanted me to talk him down 138 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:31,839 Speaker 2: the way I had with her. 139 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:35,560 Speaker 3: What Oh, he can't handle it? What's wrong with these people? 140 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:37,040 Speaker 3: I didn't want to do this. 141 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 2: Her whole reaction had already been difficult and stressful, and 142 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:42,440 Speaker 2: I didn't want to spend another hour and a half 143 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:46,960 Speaker 2: coddling her fiance. While I'm friends with him, he's not 144 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:51,159 Speaker 2: my best friend. So I basically said, I'm not sure 145 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:53,239 Speaker 2: what I can say to him that I haven't already 146 00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:55,800 Speaker 2: said to you. She then told me that she didn't 147 00:06:55,839 --> 00:06:58,680 Speaker 2: feel like my husband and I considered her wedding being 148 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:01,800 Speaker 2: in ten months when we decided to go for it, 149 00:07:01,960 --> 00:07:05,280 Speaker 2: and that I wasn't being realistic with her about being 150 00:07:05,279 --> 00:07:06,520 Speaker 2: able to be at her wedding. 151 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:11,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm sorry. Who would consider your wedding that's ten 152 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:17,240 Speaker 3: months away? Again, the world doesn't revolve around you, not 153 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:19,440 Speaker 3: at all. So crazy. 154 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 2: She said that twenty twenty five is a big year 155 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:25,680 Speaker 2: and that people automatically think that a pregnancy is more 156 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 2: important than a wedding, and she didn't want people to 157 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:31,880 Speaker 2: only focus on me and not her. Basically, twenty twenty 158 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 2: five is supposed to be her year, and now that 159 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 2: I'm pregnant, that makes this year. 160 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:40,280 Speaker 3: Not all about her and somehow puts her wedding in jeopardy. 161 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 2: Girl, I truly do not understand this, as we don't 162 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:47,720 Speaker 2: share friend and family groups, and I would never expect 163 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:49,760 Speaker 2: her to pause her life the year I have a 164 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:52,720 Speaker 2: major life event, So it really upset me that she 165 00:07:53,080 --> 00:07:55,920 Speaker 2: basically expected me to put my life on pause for 166 00:07:55,960 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 2: a year so only she and her fiance could have 167 00:07:59,040 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 2: twenty twenty five. 168 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:01,560 Speaker 3: I was like, what is it what I was supposed 169 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:04,760 Speaker 3: to do? Yeah, put the baby back. Yeah. She's like, oh, sorry, 170 00:08:04,760 --> 00:08:08,400 Speaker 3: I'll pause really quick. Sorry, Yeah, thank you. Sorry. 171 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:10,720 Speaker 2: I told her this is my reply, that her reaction 172 00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:13,480 Speaker 2: had made me regret telling her about the pregnancy and 173 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:17,200 Speaker 2: honestly getting pregnant in the first place. I also told 174 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:19,440 Speaker 2: her that I live in a state where it's dangerous 175 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:21,119 Speaker 2: to be a woman, and it's not fair to expect 176 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 2: me to put my life on pause for her wedding. 177 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:27,400 Speaker 2: I explained that best friends share life events all the time. 178 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 3: Especially in their thirties. 179 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:32,480 Speaker 2: They get married, have kids, change jobs, move, get divorced, 180 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:35,000 Speaker 2: et cetera, all at the same time, and it doesn't 181 00:08:35,040 --> 00:08:37,240 Speaker 2: negate or take away from each other. 182 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:40,559 Speaker 3: It's okay to celebrate each other this year, it lovely 183 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:42,720 Speaker 3: would have been for her to be supportive and be like, 184 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:44,320 Speaker 3: oh my god, I'm gonna be like, get a tea. 185 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 2: Basically, yeah, doesn't take away each other's shine. She told 186 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:50,520 Speaker 2: me that she needed to process this and couldn't respond yet. 187 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:53,000 Speaker 2: I said that that's okay, give it some time and 188 00:08:53,080 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 2: I'll be there. Two days later, I'm oh, my gosh, 189 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:03,440 Speaker 2: wh this was one of the worst effing experiences of 190 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:06,600 Speaker 2: my life, and I'm still not over it. I cry 191 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:08,800 Speaker 2: thinking about the baby I lost and the fear that 192 00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:11,320 Speaker 2: I'll never have a baby or a family in the future. 193 00:09:11,679 --> 00:09:15,800 Speaker 2: Even two weeks later. It's a wound I'm sure I'll 194 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:19,520 Speaker 2: always carry around. I texted her at four am when 195 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:22,280 Speaker 2: I was mas telling her I was pretty sure that 196 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:24,839 Speaker 2: was what was happening, but that I didn't want to 197 00:09:24,880 --> 00:09:25,480 Speaker 2: talk about it. 198 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:26,720 Speaker 3: Really. 199 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:29,679 Speaker 2: I didn't want to talk about it with her after 200 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:31,840 Speaker 2: her response to the news in the first place. I 201 00:09:31,880 --> 00:09:34,040 Speaker 2: didn't trust talking to her about it or what she 202 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:36,760 Speaker 2: would say yeah. She would probably just be like she'd. 203 00:09:36,559 --> 00:09:38,600 Speaker 3: Be like, oh, sorry, and I ring in this up. 204 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:42,200 Speaker 3: You're making more drama. Well wow, Or she'd just be like, 205 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:43,640 Speaker 3: oh no, I'm so sorry. 206 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:46,440 Speaker 2: But then she'd be like okay, well at least yeah, 207 00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:50,079 Speaker 2: like psycho behavior, Yeah, no, that's it would be insane. 208 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 2: I probably shouldn't have even said anything, to be honest, 209 00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 2: but I was bleeding heavily in the bathroom in the 210 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:56,520 Speaker 2: middle of the night, and I texted my best friend 211 00:09:56,600 --> 00:09:59,040 Speaker 2: to let her know. She didn't text me back until 212 00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:01,600 Speaker 2: two thirty pm the day, and send what felt like 213 00:10:01,679 --> 00:10:05,360 Speaker 2: a pretty generic message, basically saying I didn't know what 214 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:08,080 Speaker 2: to say. If you think this is happening, then I'm sorry. 215 00:10:08,760 --> 00:10:12,000 Speaker 3: I didn't respect. If your best friend says, hey, I 216 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:15,480 Speaker 3: just had a miscarriage, call them, yeah, I would be 217 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:17,240 Speaker 3: over out there. I would say, oh my god, are 218 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 3: you okay, I'm on my way. Yeah. We don't have 219 00:10:19,840 --> 00:10:22,680 Speaker 3: to talk about it. I'll just be there, just be there. Yeah. 220 00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:25,160 Speaker 3: And if you don't live close, then i'll call. Yeah. 221 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:28,200 Speaker 2: But a text, come on, oh my gosh, and this 222 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:29,320 Speaker 2: short of a text too. 223 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:32,880 Speaker 3: I didn't respond. I didn't respond to most people that day. 224 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:36,920 Speaker 2: I was actively bleeding, crying and scared for myself, my baby, 225 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:40,560 Speaker 2: and my health. She never checked in again, ridiculous. She 226 00:10:40,600 --> 00:10:42,240 Speaker 2: didn't send me a text later to see if I 227 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:45,280 Speaker 2: was okay, how I was doing, if it was confirmed, 228 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:48,960 Speaker 2: if my husband, who was also her friend, was okay. Nothing, 229 00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:52,280 Speaker 2: just the one generic. If that's what's happening, then I'm sorry, 230 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:55,360 Speaker 2: and that was it. Three days later, I went to 231 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:58,240 Speaker 2: the obie who did an ultrasound and confirmed that I 232 00:10:58,280 --> 00:11:01,240 Speaker 2: had lost the baby. Shared on my socials that I 233 00:11:01,280 --> 00:11:02,480 Speaker 2: went through a miscarriage. 234 00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:03,040 Speaker 1: Oh wow. 235 00:11:03,280 --> 00:11:05,640 Speaker 2: I've always for ten years shared on my social media 236 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:08,559 Speaker 2: when I'm not okay. When I went through treatment, I shared, 237 00:11:08,720 --> 00:11:12,439 Speaker 2: I've always shared. It wasn't for her and wasn't about her. 238 00:11:12,840 --> 00:11:15,600 Speaker 2: It was about me being honest about what happened and 239 00:11:15,760 --> 00:11:18,920 Speaker 2: showing that it's not something to be ashamed of. She 240 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:22,080 Speaker 2: saw my post. You can see who's viewed your stories. 241 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:25,600 Speaker 2: But again, no texts, no calls, nothing to check in 242 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:29,840 Speaker 2: on me. Now to today, it's been over two weeks 243 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:31,920 Speaker 2: and hasn't said a word to me at all. We 244 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:34,600 Speaker 2: went from talking literally every single day for twelve years 245 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:37,600 Speaker 2: to her ghosting me completely for two weeks while I 246 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:40,319 Speaker 2: was actively going through the worst thing in my life today. 247 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:43,280 Speaker 2: I sent a text to basically saying, Hey, I don't 248 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:45,440 Speaker 2: know what's going on, but you're not saying anything for 249 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:48,280 Speaker 2: two weeks has been upsetting me. I gave you time 250 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:50,280 Speaker 2: to figure out a response, and I'm confused why it's 251 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:50,960 Speaker 2: taken this long. 252 00:11:51,360 --> 00:11:52,920 Speaker 3: But I'll be here when you're ready. 253 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:56,080 Speaker 2: By the way, we will always be here when you 254 00:11:56,160 --> 00:11:59,080 Speaker 2: are ready to listen to full episodes more stories just 255 00:11:59,320 --> 00:11:59,960 Speaker 2: like this one. 256 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:03,280 Speaker 3: Just go to our slash Okay story time subbredit we'd 257 00:12:03,280 --> 00:12:04,600 Speaker 3: be there for you. It's true. 258 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:07,679 Speaker 2: Then I got these texts, so yes I did. This 259 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:10,800 Speaker 2: is from from the friend, by the way, so yes, 260 00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:12,679 Speaker 2: I did. Need time to process the last thing you 261 00:12:12,720 --> 00:12:15,280 Speaker 2: said to me. You said you felt like you were 262 00:12:15,559 --> 00:12:18,839 Speaker 2: made to feel regret about being pregnant and regretted ever 263 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:21,200 Speaker 2: telling me. But you didn't express any of this until 264 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:23,480 Speaker 2: the day I said Blank wanted to talk about all 265 00:12:23,520 --> 00:12:26,240 Speaker 2: of it with you directly because it does affect him too. 266 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:30,520 Speaker 2: It's his wedding year two. This is like you don't 267 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:31,240 Speaker 2: get a whole wedding. 268 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:33,600 Speaker 3: Yeah. This is like when girls say like birthday month, 269 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:38,040 Speaker 3: birthday month. Yeah. The other people were born then, yeah, yeah, 270 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:38,600 Speaker 3: this is crazy. 271 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:40,520 Speaker 2: These are really long text by the way, these are 272 00:12:40,559 --> 00:12:42,640 Speaker 2: like paragraphs paragraphs. 273 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:47,760 Speaker 3: There's like three giant paragraphs screen full of texts like 274 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:51,880 Speaker 3: berating ope after a miscarriage. Again, Yeah, that's insane. 275 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:57,319 Speaker 2: No, that's that's wild, wild behavior, to be sure. Yeah, Lissy, 276 00:12:57,440 --> 00:13:01,120 Speaker 2: she continues, So you were fine until being confronted with reality. 277 00:13:01,360 --> 00:13:05,200 Speaker 2: Oh my god, but I would throw up all over 278 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:05,760 Speaker 2: this front. 279 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:08,560 Speaker 3: She's getting worse. 280 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:11,400 Speaker 2: The person who is supposed to be my best friend 281 00:13:11,640 --> 00:13:14,200 Speaker 2: just instead chose to blame me and my partner for 282 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:18,040 Speaker 2: her own feelings about her own pregnancy. That's absolutely not 283 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:21,520 Speaker 2: my responsibility to manage. Well, it's not my responsibility to 284 00:13:21,559 --> 00:13:22,600 Speaker 2: manage your fringing winning. 285 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:25,559 Speaker 3: Yeah. Absolutely, that goes both ways, girly. 286 00:13:25,679 --> 00:13:29,120 Speaker 2: Absolutely, you said something like it's not on me to 287 00:13:29,120 --> 00:13:31,400 Speaker 2: make him okay with this, and in the same breath 288 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:33,959 Speaker 2: you said you were made to feel bad about your 289 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:36,760 Speaker 2: own pregnancy when you should feel joy. How is that 290 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:41,320 Speaker 2: our responsibility? But just having a realistic conversation as adults 291 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:42,960 Speaker 2: was just asking. 292 00:13:42,679 --> 00:13:43,760 Speaker 3: Way too much from you. 293 00:13:44,280 --> 00:13:46,559 Speaker 2: None of it makes any sense and it doesn't matter 294 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:50,280 Speaker 2: what I say. The responsibility will never fall on you 295 00:13:50,400 --> 00:13:52,600 Speaker 2: and I will always come out as the bad guy, 296 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:55,160 Speaker 2: because that's just how it is when you make a 297 00:13:55,200 --> 00:13:58,840 Speaker 2: decision that ultimately hurts me, and I just push it 298 00:13:58,880 --> 00:14:01,400 Speaker 2: down and swallow it because it's not worth the cost. 299 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:04,120 Speaker 3: But I just can't swallow it this time. 300 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:08,199 Speaker 2: And then you said me, don't feel comfortable talking about 301 00:14:08,240 --> 00:14:11,320 Speaker 2: it and feel very effing alone and sad right now. 302 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:14,240 Speaker 2: So I let you know that I really did feel 303 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:16,760 Speaker 2: bad about what was happening, but you never replied and 304 00:14:16,840 --> 00:14:18,960 Speaker 2: didn't want to talk to me about it. Fine, but 305 00:14:19,040 --> 00:14:21,920 Speaker 2: then you post on socials several times about it instead, 306 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:25,200 Speaker 2: and now you're disappointed and upset and confused that you 307 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:28,400 Speaker 2: haven't heard from me. It's incredibly childish and I don't 308 00:14:28,400 --> 00:14:29,240 Speaker 2: want any. 309 00:14:29,120 --> 00:14:31,680 Speaker 3: Part in that. Oh my god, we're only halfway through. 310 00:14:31,880 --> 00:14:35,880 Speaker 2: Ah, insane, this is insane, giving this whole conversation. Like 311 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:38,200 Speaker 2: if that first text about the wedding stuff was just 312 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:40,520 Speaker 2: said after the wedding stuff happened, yeah, that would be 313 00:14:40,720 --> 00:14:43,440 Speaker 2: like still crazy, but like, ah, another thing, yeah, but 314 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:45,920 Speaker 2: this is after Yeah, the fact that she's still making 315 00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:48,520 Speaker 2: this an issue after this terrible thing, it's like, oh 316 00:14:48,560 --> 00:14:49,800 Speaker 2: my goodness. 317 00:14:50,440 --> 00:14:51,359 Speaker 3: But she continues. 318 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:54,840 Speaker 2: This whole thing has been blown out of proportion, when 319 00:14:54,920 --> 00:14:57,000 Speaker 2: all I wanted from the start was for you to 320 00:14:57,080 --> 00:15:01,080 Speaker 2: acknowledge reality instead of the delusional fantasy that nothing would 321 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:05,280 Speaker 2: change and that everything will be fine and that nothing. 322 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:06,400 Speaker 3: Will stop me from being there. 323 00:15:07,280 --> 00:15:10,080 Speaker 2: Not willing to discuss any backup plans, not willing to 324 00:15:10,120 --> 00:15:14,240 Speaker 2: discuss the reality, but just gaslighting our concerns to oblivion. 325 00:15:14,520 --> 00:15:16,880 Speaker 2: No one in their right mind who has actually given 326 00:15:16,920 --> 00:15:19,200 Speaker 2: birth would make promises like that, girl. 327 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:27,800 Speaker 3: Oh no, oh gosh, oh man. Also just like just 328 00:15:28,040 --> 00:15:31,320 Speaker 3: doubly cruel. Yeah, to say to someone who just loves 329 00:15:31,320 --> 00:15:35,080 Speaker 3: to be to say, oh, who's actually given birth, Yeah, 330 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:39,400 Speaker 3: double really cruel, so incredibly insensitive. But you shut that 331 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:42,160 Speaker 3: down with blind optimism and never actually listen to the 332 00:15:42,200 --> 00:15:44,600 Speaker 3: real issues. You just made it about you and the 333 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:47,440 Speaker 3: facts that you were pregnant, and it was allegedly my fault. 334 00:15:47,520 --> 00:15:48,240 Speaker 3: You were so upset. 335 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:50,280 Speaker 2: You've been trying to manipulate how I feel by love 336 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:52,560 Speaker 2: bombing me and telling me that you're hurt, and by 337 00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:55,720 Speaker 2: begging me to not be mad when you first told 338 00:15:55,760 --> 00:15:59,040 Speaker 2: me your test is positive, so that automatically I'm the 339 00:15:59,080 --> 00:16:03,440 Speaker 2: bad guy for being upset no matter what. It's bonkers, actually, 340 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:07,440 Speaker 2: but it's not even worth talking about anymore, because no 341 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:09,920 Speaker 2: matter what I say, you always end up the victim 342 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:12,800 Speaker 2: anytime you make a choice that hurts me, because yes, 343 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:15,560 Speaker 2: you've done it several times over the years, you always 344 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:18,720 Speaker 2: have some convenient justifications for it, and it gets flipped 345 00:16:18,760 --> 00:16:22,320 Speaker 2: to me because being the problem for being upset and 346 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:25,280 Speaker 2: you're the one who's being hurt. So, yeah, I'm tired, 347 00:16:25,400 --> 00:16:31,760 Speaker 2: and I'm done into this amount of texts. Yeah yeah, 348 00:16:31,800 --> 00:16:34,200 Speaker 2: honestly making me read that much? 349 00:16:34,680 --> 00:16:37,000 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah. 350 00:16:37,080 --> 00:16:39,680 Speaker 2: And that last part about like you always have some 351 00:16:39,720 --> 00:16:43,120 Speaker 2: sort of convenient excuse or justification. 352 00:16:43,920 --> 00:16:44,840 Speaker 3: She when she. 353 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:50,240 Speaker 2: Literally had a miscarriage, my girl, oh so convenient, terrible friend, 354 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:55,400 Speaker 2: so terrible, Oh my goodness, Oh my goodness. So now 355 00:16:55,520 --> 00:16:58,480 Speaker 2: I'm just so effing confused. I don't know what she 356 00:16:58,520 --> 00:17:01,280 Speaker 2: means when she says I've manipulated her, that I've love 357 00:17:01,400 --> 00:17:04,200 Speaker 2: bombed her by coddling her about my pregnancy to get 358 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:06,879 Speaker 2: her to calm the f down, or that I'm always 359 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:10,399 Speaker 2: the victim and she's the bad guy. I'm truly so confused, 360 00:17:10,440 --> 00:17:13,399 Speaker 2: and mad Am I manipulating? Was I wrong for getting 361 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:15,280 Speaker 2: pregnant in the first place? Should I have kept this 362 00:17:15,359 --> 00:17:21,040 Speaker 2: a secret. No no, no, no at all, not at all. 363 00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:22,760 Speaker 2: I really don't know what I did wrong, and I 364 00:17:22,800 --> 00:17:25,160 Speaker 2: feel like I need some third party voices to help 365 00:17:25,200 --> 00:17:26,240 Speaker 2: me see the truth. 366 00:17:26,320 --> 00:17:27,480 Speaker 3: So am I the ale? 367 00:17:27,520 --> 00:17:29,879 Speaker 2: Am? Someone commented, not the a hole. She's not your friend. 368 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:32,639 Speaker 2: Friends don't treat each other's this way. A true friend 369 00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:35,400 Speaker 2: would be happy for you being pregnant. All she cares 370 00:17:35,440 --> 00:17:38,600 Speaker 2: about is herself. I suggest not going to her wedding 371 00:17:38,640 --> 00:17:41,560 Speaker 2: and cutting her and her toxic husband off for good. 372 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:44,200 Speaker 2: Quit trying to please her. Grow a spine and stand 373 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:46,600 Speaker 2: up for yourself. Don't allow people to treat you this way. 374 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:49,200 Speaker 2: And then someone replied to that, I wonder if the 375 00:17:49,240 --> 00:17:52,359 Speaker 2: husband was as upset as Bridezilla made him out to be. 376 00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:54,960 Speaker 2: I really can't imagine many guys that would care one 377 00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:56,840 Speaker 2: way or the other, but I'd cut him. 378 00:17:56,920 --> 00:17:57,800 Speaker 3: I'd cut both of them. 379 00:17:57,840 --> 00:18:01,679 Speaker 2: Loose people change a lot intowelve years, so true Opie 380 00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:04,360 Speaker 2: has grown while her friend hasn't been able to get 381 00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:07,720 Speaker 2: beyond middle school mentally. Someone else responds, right, the ex 382 00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:10,240 Speaker 2: friend and boyfriend are like, she didn't stop to think 383 00:18:10,280 --> 00:18:13,159 Speaker 2: about us when she was having unprotected, spicy sleep with 384 00:18:13,200 --> 00:18:18,280 Speaker 2: her husband. Opie responds to that. Unfortunately, that is exactly 385 00:18:18,440 --> 00:18:21,280 Speaker 2: what she said. When I was on that hour and 386 00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:24,159 Speaker 2: a half long phone call. She said that she and 387 00:18:24,200 --> 00:18:27,600 Speaker 2: her fiance were literally talking about, quote, why did he 388 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:31,640 Speaker 2: have to finish inside you during December? 389 00:18:31,760 --> 00:18:32,080 Speaker 1: Come on? 390 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:32,919 Speaker 3: Or something like that. 391 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:35,480 Speaker 2: I don't remember how she worded it, but it stunned 392 00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:37,920 Speaker 2: me so much when she said it. I was taken 393 00:18:37,960 --> 00:18:39,800 Speaker 2: aback by her saying that and should have stopped it 394 00:18:39,880 --> 00:18:42,560 Speaker 2: right there, but continued to try to be empathetic and 395 00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:43,680 Speaker 2: calm her anxiety. 396 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:45,879 Speaker 3: But yes, they literally. 397 00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:48,520 Speaker 2: Discussed with each other that they were mad that two 398 00:18:48,600 --> 00:18:52,679 Speaker 2: married adults had unprotected spicy sleep eleven months before their wedding. 399 00:18:53,160 --> 00:18:55,959 Speaker 2: Then told me while crying that they said that, and 400 00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:58,919 Speaker 2: I continued to try to be empathetic. I see as 401 00:18:58,920 --> 00:19:01,320 Speaker 2: I write these things that I been unfair to myself. 402 00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:04,600 Speaker 2: I made myself small to calm someone down and appease 403 00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:06,760 Speaker 2: them over something that wasn't wrong with me to do 404 00:19:06,800 --> 00:19:09,199 Speaker 2: in the first place. I hear what you were all saying, 405 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:12,400 Speaker 2: and I appreciate all the responses, and that is it. 406 00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:18,000 Speaker 3: Our friendship bended over Chinese food sounds well right, sounds 407 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:21,280 Speaker 3: pretty justified. Okay, So I know the title sounds ridiculous, 408 00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:25,400 Speaker 3: but hear me out For background. I twenty eight female, 409 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:28,919 Speaker 3: recently graduated college. I've always been kind of socially awkward, 410 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:31,119 Speaker 3: and being an older student, I found it hard to 411 00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:34,560 Speaker 3: make friends, but I decided to really make more of 412 00:19:34,560 --> 00:19:37,080 Speaker 3: an effort in my senior year. By the way, this 413 00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:38,920 Speaker 3: comes from Little Missy and if you want to spit 414 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:41,800 Speaker 3: your own stories, go to our slashokey story time separated show. 415 00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:46,600 Speaker 3: I met a girl let's call her Wi Fi Sure 416 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:51,280 Speaker 3: twenty three female through a friend and we hit it off. 417 00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:54,080 Speaker 3: We ended up forming a little friend circle with about 418 00:19:54,080 --> 00:19:56,480 Speaker 3: eight people. We often hung out one on one or 419 00:19:56,520 --> 00:19:59,679 Speaker 3: in smaller groups as well. She was really nice, fun 420 00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:02,879 Speaker 3: and very bubbly. I enjoyed her company a lot and 421 00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:06,040 Speaker 3: thought highly of her. I ben introvert by nature, and 422 00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:09,720 Speaker 3: while I enjoy people, I generally do so in short bursts. 423 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:13,919 Speaker 3: Then I need to recharge with lots of a loane time. 424 00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:16,119 Speaker 3: At the beginning of our last quarter, we were on 425 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:18,679 Speaker 3: a ten week quarter system, she told me she was 426 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:22,200 Speaker 3: struggling because she's extremely extroverted and most of our group 427 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:24,640 Speaker 3: were introverts. She said it was hard to get them 428 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:27,760 Speaker 3: to go out often and the loneliness was really affecting her. 429 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:31,160 Speaker 3: By this time, I had grown to really care about her. 430 00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:33,720 Speaker 3: I also wanted to put more effort into building friendships, 431 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:37,040 Speaker 3: so I decided to go all in on supporting her. 432 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:39,520 Speaker 3: This meant we went from hanging out maybe once a 433 00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:42,439 Speaker 3: week to three times a week. I also tried to 434 00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:44,880 Speaker 3: help support her more in our group chat, helping her 435 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:48,200 Speaker 3: plan and encourage people to come to events. These meetups 436 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:52,000 Speaker 3: could be anything from nights out at bars, to study sessions, brunches, 437 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:55,840 Speaker 3: or even crochet nights. I honestly enjoyed spending time with 438 00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:58,200 Speaker 3: her and the group, but it was also a lot 439 00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:01,159 Speaker 3: for me to handle, especially with my school commitments and 440 00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:03,560 Speaker 3: the different clubs I was on the boards for. Still, 441 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:05,440 Speaker 3: I felt like it was important, so I kept at it. 442 00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:07,400 Speaker 3: Still I felt like it was important, so I kept 443 00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:10,040 Speaker 3: at it. Figuring I'd have plenty of alone time once 444 00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:12,920 Speaker 3: I moved home after graduation, I thought I should put 445 00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:15,760 Speaker 3: my energy into making memories and relationships, even if it 446 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:19,960 Speaker 3: was tiring at times some other important context. While we 447 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:23,040 Speaker 3: got along really well, like any relationship, we also had 448 00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:26,000 Speaker 3: our spats. I felt they were relatively minor, and we 449 00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:29,000 Speaker 3: talked them out well. One disagreement we had was about 450 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:34,040 Speaker 3: how she acted at bars. She's super extroverted and very pretty, 451 00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:36,600 Speaker 3: so whenever we went out, she drew a lot of attention. 452 00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:40,400 Speaker 3: She would bounce all around the rooms, striking up conversations 453 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:43,960 Speaker 3: with everyone, flirting with some guys, chatting with others, making 454 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:47,360 Speaker 3: new girlfriends, and just generally being very bubbly and gregarious. 455 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:50,640 Speaker 3: I honestly really admired this about her. Like I said, 456 00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:53,639 Speaker 3: I'm introverted and tend to be overly reserved around people, 457 00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:56,800 Speaker 3: so I admired how naturally she connected with others, how 458 00:21:56,920 --> 00:22:01,399 Speaker 3: easily she talked to strangers. I call implemented her on this. Later, 459 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:04,800 Speaker 3: she told me she felt insulted. That's like what she said. 460 00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:06,480 Speaker 3: I made her sound like a slute in front of 461 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:10,000 Speaker 3: her guy friends. Dude, come on, I say, why are 462 00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:12,360 Speaker 3: you taking like that? She told me she didn't appreciate 463 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:14,800 Speaker 3: me mentioning her talking to guys or how bubbly and 464 00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:17,119 Speaker 3: friendly she was, because she felt it painted her as 465 00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:18,879 Speaker 3: a bimbo when she was trying really hard to be 466 00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:22,000 Speaker 3: seen as smart and educated. That's on you, girl, that's 467 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:24,800 Speaker 3: on you. Where are you taking this way? Yeah? I 468 00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:27,960 Speaker 3: apologized and told her that I had not intended any 469 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:31,640 Speaker 3: insult or put down. I genuinely admired her. I also 470 00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:34,280 Speaker 3: told her that I thought she was both extremely intelligent 471 00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:37,880 Speaker 3: and extremely bubbly, and I didn't see them as mutually exclusive. Yeah, 472 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:41,600 Speaker 3: you can be like friendly and also intelligent. Absolutely. I 473 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:44,600 Speaker 3: told her I thought she was brilliant, sociable, and chatty, 474 00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:47,359 Speaker 3: and that I hadn't meant to embarrass her, but I 475 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:50,760 Speaker 3: acknowledged how she felt, apologized for anything I had said 476 00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:53,399 Speaker 3: that upset her, and agreed not to talk about her 477 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:57,200 Speaker 3: with the guys. She also apologized for misunderstanding me and 478 00:22:57,240 --> 00:23:00,080 Speaker 3: said she was a little self conscious about it. Okay, well, 479 00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:04,159 Speaker 3: she apologized she's aware of you. I thought that was 480 00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:07,159 Speaker 3: the end of it. I'm guessing it was not. Oh No. 481 00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:10,320 Speaker 3: I was really happy we were able to have such 482 00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:12,720 Speaker 3: a good conversation and work through it, because I thought 483 00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:16,359 Speaker 3: it meant we had a healthy relationship. Another disagreement we 484 00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:19,040 Speaker 3: had was over how she dressed. Like I said, she's 485 00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:21,600 Speaker 3: really pretty, and whenever we went out, she would wear 486 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:25,800 Speaker 3: outfits that accentuated that crop tops, mini dresses, et cetera, 487 00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:30,159 Speaker 3: and she always looked amazing. To be clear, I am 488 00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:32,400 Speaker 3: a Girl's girl. I think women should dress and act 489 00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:36,240 Speaker 3: however it makes them feel their best, because that's just obvious. 490 00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:38,679 Speaker 3: But she would go out, get a lot of attention, 491 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:42,119 Speaker 3: talk with people, exchange numbers, et cetera, and then start 492 00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:45,280 Speaker 3: complaining about how uncomfortable it was to be looked at 493 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:47,960 Speaker 3: all the time. She would say she wished we could 494 00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:50,240 Speaker 3: go out for once with Justice girls and be left alone, 495 00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:52,600 Speaker 3: and that it really upset her. So I told her 496 00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:54,719 Speaker 3: that if it really bothered her that much, then she 497 00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:57,440 Speaker 3: had the option of dressing more conservatively or in baggyar 498 00:23:57,520 --> 00:24:00,960 Speaker 3: clothes to try to avoid attention. She got really pissed 499 00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:03,440 Speaker 3: and asked if I was slute shaming her. I told 500 00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:05,919 Speaker 3: her I wasn't. I thought she looked really pretty. But 501 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:07,919 Speaker 3: if being looked at upset her as much as she 502 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:10,040 Speaker 3: was saying, she had at least taught the option to 503 00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:11,919 Speaker 3: try and avoid it. Though I knew there was no 504 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:14,880 Speaker 3: way to completely avoid being looked at or guarantee being 505 00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:17,720 Speaker 3: left alone, but it was worth a try. Yeah, she 506 00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:19,680 Speaker 3: got upset and says she should be able to walk 507 00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:21,919 Speaker 3: around on clothed and not be stared at, And then 508 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:24,080 Speaker 3: I was slut shaming her and saying she was asking 509 00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:26,600 Speaker 3: for attention. I agreed that women should be able to 510 00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:29,280 Speaker 3: wear whatever they want without being aggled, but I also 511 00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:31,080 Speaker 3: pointed out that this was the world we lived in 512 00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:33,320 Speaker 3: right now. I told her I didn't like seeing her 513 00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:36,080 Speaker 3: this upset and was just trying to offer alternative solutions 514 00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:38,920 Speaker 3: to help her feel better, but ultimately she should wear 515 00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:40,800 Speaker 3: whatever she wants, and I was sorry if I came 516 00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:44,080 Speaker 3: across as judge. I had really just wanted to help 517 00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:46,760 Speaker 3: her stop being upset. She accepted my apology and we 518 00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:49,800 Speaker 3: just kind of dropped it. I didn't really appreciate her 519 00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:52,159 Speaker 3: accusing me of slute shaming her, but I also know 520 00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:54,720 Speaker 3: I can be kind of old fashioned in my ideas, 521 00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:57,679 Speaker 3: so I just chalked it up to a difference in 522 00:24:57,720 --> 00:24:58,960 Speaker 3: opinion slash background. 523 00:24:59,160 --> 00:24:59,560 Speaker 1: Yeah. 524 00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:02,080 Speaker 3: So well, moving on to graduation, we were meeting up 525 00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:04,680 Speaker 3: literally every day because she was worried about the group 526 00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:07,720 Speaker 3: breaking up and being lonely during the summer. She wanted 527 00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:10,360 Speaker 3: to make memories, but it was honestly a lot, especially 528 00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:13,320 Speaker 3: since it was also during finals week. Oh, I just 529 00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:15,439 Speaker 3: felt like this was the final stretch and I needed 530 00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:18,120 Speaker 3: to tough it out for a few days. Then I'd 531 00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:20,399 Speaker 3: be at home on my mom's sofa with more alone 532 00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:22,000 Speaker 3: time than I knew what to do with, so I 533 00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:25,680 Speaker 3: went with it. However, I was admittedly tired and kind 534 00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:27,600 Speaker 3: of at the end of my emotional tether girl, you 535 00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:30,040 Speaker 3: need to learn how to say no. I think that's 536 00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:31,479 Speaker 3: the moral of the story. You need to learn how 537 00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:33,119 Speaker 3: to say no, he says. I just can't go out. 538 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:36,000 Speaker 3: It's a skill. She and I went out for Chinese 539 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:38,600 Speaker 3: food with two other people from our group. Some other 540 00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:41,000 Speaker 3: friends of mine were meeting up with us later for 541 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:43,199 Speaker 3: the end of dinner and some drinks at the bar 542 00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:45,960 Speaker 3: next door. Afterward. When we sat down and were looking 543 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:48,399 Speaker 3: at the menu, Whifi said something about wanting the pork 544 00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:50,679 Speaker 3: fed rice. I commented that we should get the vegetable 545 00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:54,000 Speaker 3: rides since our friend was vegetarian. She gave me a 546 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:56,560 Speaker 3: weird look and asked why our friend being vegetarian meant 547 00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:59,560 Speaker 3: she couldn't eat pork. I clarified, saying that it didn't, 548 00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:02,360 Speaker 3: but since we were sharing the staples like rice or noodles, 549 00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:05,440 Speaker 3: they should be vegetarian so everyone could eat them. Then 550 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:07,840 Speaker 3: we could also get one or two meat dishes as well. 551 00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:10,760 Speaker 3: She asked why I assumed she was sharing, and I 552 00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:13,240 Speaker 3: pointed out that it was a sharing menu. I don't 553 00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:14,560 Speaker 3: know how to explain this, but it was one of 554 00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:16,960 Speaker 3: those places where you ordered large plates for the table 555 00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:21,640 Speaker 3: and everyone shares. There were no individual mixed plate options anyway. 556 00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:23,720 Speaker 3: She said she'd never done that before, and how she'd 557 00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:25,920 Speaker 3: never shared her meal at a restaurant or something. Most 558 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:28,760 Speaker 3: Chinese places I've been to are like this. I mean, 559 00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:31,760 Speaker 3: that's how I usually do them, yeah, which our other 560 00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:33,679 Speaker 3: friends agreed with, But she just said she thought it 561 00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:36,320 Speaker 3: was weird. I figured it was a cultural difference, and 562 00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:38,679 Speaker 3: she was from a different country. I thought it was 563 00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:40,760 Speaker 3: just a new thing for her. She and our friend 564 00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:42,880 Speaker 3: went to scope at the bar while our other friend 565 00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:45,560 Speaker 3: let's call him Lee for convenience, and I stayed behind 566 00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:48,280 Speaker 3: to wait for our food. Wi Fi had ordered the chicken, 567 00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:52,560 Speaker 3: which arrived first. Lee immediately served himself some. I was 568 00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:55,040 Speaker 3: hesitant since she'd been so weird about it, but Lee 569 00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:58,800 Speaker 3: seemed very nonchalant, so I figured I was just overthinking 570 00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:01,800 Speaker 3: with my social awkwardness and plated some as well. I 571 00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:04,679 Speaker 3: think you should have kept overthinking that. I mean, she 572 00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:08,280 Speaker 3: did specifically state she was like, why would I share? Yeah? 573 00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:10,760 Speaker 3: Like that was a little bit weird. I don't know, 574 00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:13,119 Speaker 3: I have like mixed feelings, so like that was a 575 00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:15,959 Speaker 3: little bit weird of reaction because usually when you go 576 00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:18,320 Speaker 3: to like Chinese restaurants or even I would say, like 577 00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:20,440 Speaker 3: sometimes when you go to Indian restaurants, a lot of 578 00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:22,879 Speaker 3: different places. I guess, yeah, it's a lot of like 579 00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:25,439 Speaker 3: sharing things, like things that you like, if you have 580 00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:28,920 Speaker 3: rice dishes, you'll you know, share forrees and stuff. 581 00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:31,600 Speaker 2: Get one and then share it with everyone. Yeah, but 582 00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:34,240 Speaker 2: so that was like a little bit different. But her 583 00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:36,960 Speaker 2: specifically stating hey, I don't want to share, and then 584 00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:42,160 Speaker 2: you guys then eating her food. Yes, a little bit 585 00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:44,080 Speaker 2: weird and awkward there. 586 00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:47,040 Speaker 3: Lee also took a sip of her soda when it 587 00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:51,240 Speaker 3: arrived and offered me a sip, which I thought was weird, weird. 588 00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:55,240 Speaker 3: That's that's much weird. I don't just steal people's sodas 589 00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:59,200 Speaker 3: without asking, drinks without asking. A drink is drin is different? 590 00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:02,840 Speaker 3: Different drink? This ude? Yeah, However, Wi Fi and I 591 00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:06,280 Speaker 3: had shared drinks on numerous occasions before. Okay, so I 592 00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:08,159 Speaker 3: thought maybe it was more normal than I realized, and 593 00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:10,080 Speaker 3: agreed to have a sip as well. Girl, Come on, 594 00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:12,560 Speaker 3: I honestly did think it was kind of weird, but 595 00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:15,520 Speaker 3: also I'm introverted and socially anxious, so I also don't 596 00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:18,480 Speaker 3: trust my own sense of judgment on these things. A 597 00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:20,800 Speaker 3: few minutes later they came back, and by that point 598 00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:22,840 Speaker 3: we had a plate full of food. I told her 599 00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:26,000 Speaker 3: the chicken was crazy spicy. She kind of froze and 600 00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:28,399 Speaker 3: asked if I'd eaten some. Lie said we had, and 601 00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:31,600 Speaker 3: mentioned that her soda was super good though, and that 602 00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:35,480 Speaker 3: he liked the spice. Okay, you know what, Leeno Pierre 603 00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:39,760 Speaker 3: in the wrong? Leano Pierre in the wrong. She kind 604 00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:44,120 Speaker 3: of laughed and said really or something, before drinking some herself. However, 605 00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:46,200 Speaker 3: for the rest of the night, she would not speak 606 00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:49,400 Speaker 3: to me. She talked to Lee Okay, that's weird, and 607 00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:51,840 Speaker 3: even my other friends when they arrived, but wouldn't even 608 00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:55,360 Speaker 3: look at me at all. I had really hurt my feelings. 609 00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:57,800 Speaker 3: I was the only one graduating, and this was supposed 610 00:28:57,800 --> 00:28:59,640 Speaker 3: to be a dinner to celebrate, but now my friend 611 00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:02,959 Speaker 3: was pretty like I didn't exist. This continued even at 612 00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:05,640 Speaker 3: the bar, and I just kind of disassociated since I 613 00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:08,840 Speaker 3: was so hurt and overwhelmed. My other friends checked in 614 00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:10,680 Speaker 3: on me a few times, but I just said I 615 00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:13,240 Speaker 3: was fine and stayed silent otherwise because I didn't even 616 00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:15,440 Speaker 3: know how to explain it or what went so wrong. 617 00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:18,920 Speaker 3: It also didn't help that I was the designated driver 618 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:21,120 Speaker 3: and had to take everyone home while they all talked 619 00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:24,480 Speaker 3: around me. By the time I got home, she had 620 00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:27,360 Speaker 3: sent me a long text. She said that she felt 621 00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:29,960 Speaker 3: violated by me, and that me eating the chicken after 622 00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:32,440 Speaker 3: she said she wasn't okay with it was a clear 623 00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:35,560 Speaker 3: power move. She felt I was trying to humiliate her 624 00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:37,920 Speaker 3: or show off or something, and the fact that I 625 00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:42,280 Speaker 3: hadn't immediately apologized proved it was intentional. She said that 626 00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:45,080 Speaker 3: lee was one thing, but she thought better of me. Okay, 627 00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:46,120 Speaker 3: it feels dramatic. 628 00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:52,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm kind of I don't necessarily agree, Yeah, but 629 00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:53,840 Speaker 2: I also don't disagree. 630 00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:57,280 Speaker 3: Yeah. I was honestly baffled. She had said she thought 631 00:29:57,280 --> 00:29:59,120 Speaker 3: it was weird, but I thought she meant weird as 632 00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:02,440 Speaker 3: in something she hadn't done before, didn't realize, not as 633 00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:05,440 Speaker 3: her setting a boundary. To be honest, I can see 634 00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:07,320 Speaker 3: why she'd be upset about the food thing, because I 635 00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:09,880 Speaker 3: had clearly misread the situation and upset her, and that 636 00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:12,560 Speaker 3: was wrong of me one hundred percent. However, I was 637 00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:15,000 Speaker 3: also super hurt that she ignored me at my graduation 638 00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:17,800 Speaker 3: dinner instead of pulling me aside or talking to me later. 639 00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:21,000 Speaker 3: That's fair, I think the mature thing would have been 640 00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:23,240 Speaker 3: for be like, hey, like, I just asked you not 641 00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:25,680 Speaker 3: to eat it. Why did you do that? Yeah? Yeah, 642 00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:29,240 Speaker 3: instead of ignoring you. All of this power move humiliation 643 00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:31,560 Speaker 3: stuff felt like it came out of nowhere. I felt 644 00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:34,800 Speaker 3: so insulted by that I waited until morning to reply 645 00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:37,080 Speaker 3: so I could calm down a bit. I apologized for 646 00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:39,320 Speaker 3: crossing her boundary, but told her I was honestly kind 647 00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:41,760 Speaker 3: of devastated that, after all the time we spent together, 648 00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:44,080 Speaker 3: she thought I was the kind of person who'd pull 649 00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:47,920 Speaker 3: power moves or tried to intentionally humiliate her. It felt 650 00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:49,560 Speaker 3: like she didn't know me at all if she thought 651 00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:51,440 Speaker 3: of me like that. We were supposed to do a 652 00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:53,880 Speaker 3: friend's brunch and maybe a pot look, but I told 653 00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:55,920 Speaker 3: her I wouldn't be doing either, as I wanted some 654 00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:58,920 Speaker 3: time to process. She texted me back, upset that I 655 00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:00,800 Speaker 3: was letting this ruin the time we had left together, 656 00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:03,480 Speaker 3: and insisted that she had been super clear, so it 657 00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:06,680 Speaker 3: couldn't have been of miscommunication. There was a lot more 658 00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:08,720 Speaker 3: back and forth, but that was the gist of it. 659 00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:10,640 Speaker 3: It's also kind of important to note that most of 660 00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:14,160 Speaker 3: this text change was happening while I was backstage waiting 661 00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:19,680 Speaker 3: to walk for an award at my graduation yikes wow, 662 00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:21,840 Speaker 3: until I just turned my phone off for a while. 663 00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:24,360 Speaker 3: I ultimately asked her not to text or call me 664 00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:26,520 Speaker 3: for a while because I'm not good with emotions and 665 00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:29,360 Speaker 3: wanted time to really think things through. She ended up 666 00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:31,560 Speaker 3: texting me about once a month through the summer, but 667 00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:34,400 Speaker 3: I never replied. At the end of summer, I reached 668 00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:36,040 Speaker 3: out and let her know that I just didn't think 669 00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:39,280 Speaker 3: we could be friends anymore because she doubted my character 670 00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:41,920 Speaker 3: as a person. She chose to pick a text fight 671 00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:44,520 Speaker 3: with me during my graduation ceremony, which I felt was 672 00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:47,640 Speaker 3: very inconsiderate. Although it had been a few months, I 673 00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:49,640 Speaker 3: still just felt really hurt and didn't see a way 674 00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:51,240 Speaker 3: for me to get past this or let it go. 675 00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:54,120 Speaker 3: I wished her the best, thanked her for being my 676 00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:56,520 Speaker 3: friend during school, and wished her a good final year 677 00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:59,440 Speaker 3: in graduation. She replied and said she thought my ceremony 678 00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:01,440 Speaker 3: was in the afternoon and not the morning, and she'd 679 00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:03,920 Speaker 3: wanted to settle things quickly before I left, so the 680 00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:07,640 Speaker 3: timing was an accident. By the way, it would never 681 00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:10,280 Speaker 3: be an accident. To listen to full episodes of stories 682 00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:13,800 Speaker 3: just like this. Just go to Spotify, Apple Podcast, or 683 00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:16,000 Speaker 3: your favorite podcast app in search of Okay story time. 684 00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:18,719 Speaker 3: She said she felt mistreated and hurt, and then it 685 00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:21,960 Speaker 3: wasn't just about the chicken. She claimed I repeatedly put 686 00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:24,480 Speaker 3: her down and done some seriously mean girl things to her. 687 00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:26,840 Speaker 3: She said then how hurt she was that I didn't 688 00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:29,880 Speaker 3: want to be friends and felt I was abandoning her 689 00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:32,640 Speaker 3: and that it was unfair. She said she'd wait in 690 00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:34,720 Speaker 3: case I changed my mind and wanted to be friends again. 691 00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:37,840 Speaker 3: So it's been a while, but this still bothers me sometimes. 692 00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:40,880 Speaker 3: I posted this here because I genuinely liked to know. 693 00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:43,600 Speaker 3: Was I being a mean girl? Was I too quick 694 00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:46,600 Speaker 3: to walk away? And I humbly ask you unbiased strangers 695 00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:50,200 Speaker 3: for your opinion and we'll answer any questions. Thanks. Also, 696 00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:51,920 Speaker 3: sorry it was long. There was a lot and I 697 00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:55,200 Speaker 3: didn't realize, but that is the end of that story. 698 00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:58,040 Speaker 3: Wow's uh hey, it's Sam. 699 00:32:58,120 --> 00:32:59,600 Speaker 1: We're gonna get back to the stories, but here's three 700 00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:00,160 Speaker 1: minutes of uh. 701 00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:01,280 Speaker 5: It's from our sponsors. 702 00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:04,959 Speaker 1: I broke up with my boyfriend after I lost weight. 703 00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:10,200 Speaker 1: Everyone in our life is furious. As a couple, we 704 00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:12,720 Speaker 1: decided that we were going to get in shape together. 705 00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:16,760 Speaker 1: We love being outside and exercise, and we used to 706 00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:20,200 Speaker 1: be health nuts and taking care of the food we ate. 707 00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:24,200 Speaker 1: By the way, this comes from user b f and 708 00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:27,560 Speaker 1: Weight Loss and if you want to submit your own stories, 709 00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:31,080 Speaker 1: go to the r slash Okay story time subreddit. Do 710 00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:35,080 Speaker 1: it there. So, even though we continued to exercise daily, 711 00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:38,160 Speaker 1: our food plan wasn't great, so we decided to change it. 712 00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:41,680 Speaker 1: We developed a health plan because of it. I went 713 00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:44,400 Speaker 1: from one hundred and fifty five pounds and five ten 714 00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:48,640 Speaker 1: to one hundred and twenty five pounds currently adding muscle 715 00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:49,280 Speaker 1: and toning. 716 00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:51,920 Speaker 5: Five ten and you're one hundred twenty five pounds. 717 00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:55,000 Speaker 1: I have no idea what healthy weights are, but I'm 718 00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:58,840 Speaker 1: like six foot two hundred, so five ten one is 719 00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:03,080 Speaker 1: like Dan. However, he stayed the same weight six' three 720 00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:06,959 Speaker 1: one point, eighty which is perfectly. Fine WHAT i started 721 00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:09,520 Speaker 1: to get. Fit lots of guys started to pay attention to, 722 00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:12,520 Speaker 1: me And i've been asked several times to be a. 723 00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:16,040 Speaker 1: MODEL i won't try to say that this wasn't. Good 724 00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:18,799 Speaker 1: it was really good for me and my ego and 725 00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:21,720 Speaker 1: my really low self esteem is now at a normal. 726 00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:25,759 Speaker 1: Level life's. Good i'm happy And i'm feeling. Good boyfriend 727 00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:29,080 Speaker 1: was happy with my new body always grabbing, me but 728 00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:32,319 Speaker 1: didn't like the new, attention which is understandable in my. 729 00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:34,840 Speaker 1: Opinion he AND i continued to exercise UNTIL i was 730 00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:37,440 Speaker 1: one hundred and forty. Pounds he then started to come 731 00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:40,680 Speaker 1: up with. Excuses, then AFTER i achieved my goal weight 732 00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:44,040 Speaker 1: one thirty, five my boyfriend started to ask for pizza 733 00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:46,440 Speaker 1: and other. THINGS i said that it was okay for 734 00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:48,520 Speaker 1: me if he ate, it BUT i didn't want. To 735 00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:52,040 Speaker 1: he went, nuts started telling me THAT i was obsessed 736 00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:56,040 Speaker 1: with weight, loss and That i'm, anorexic and other hurtful. 737 00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:59,520 Speaker 1: Things then WHEN i suggested, running, hiking or some physical 738 00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:01,960 Speaker 1: activity that we had always done in the, past he 739 00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:05,719 Speaker 1: would always say no and suggest other things like watching a. 740 00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:09,200 Speaker 1: MOVIE i haven't those bassis lee but, cooking and would 741 00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:12,920 Speaker 1: make me feel guilty for leaving to do some. Exercise 742 00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:15,560 Speaker 1: As i've, said. Before we've done this daily since we. 743 00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:18,120 Speaker 1: Met until my one hundred and forty pound. MARK i 744 00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:21,360 Speaker 1: was starting to feel really unhappy as all the THINGS 745 00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:23,880 Speaker 1: i loved that we both loved to do in the 746 00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:27,120 Speaker 1: past were being. Neglected AND i am just not a 747 00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:30,640 Speaker 1: person to stay indoors WATCHING tv and. RELAXING i hate. 748 00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:34,799 Speaker 1: IT i have lots of. Energy the final THING i 749 00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:38,120 Speaker 1: discovered why he didn't lose weight when he was trying so. 750 00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:41,160 Speaker 1: HARD i don't get, it those were his. Words he 751 00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:43,640 Speaker 1: packed his healthy lunch at home and then when dump, 752 00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:46,640 Speaker 1: It i'm so effing. ANGRY i hate when people waste, 753 00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:49,200 Speaker 1: food and he would eat pizza or a sub or. 754 00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:52,000 Speaker 1: McDonald's i saw a, receipt asked him about, it and 755 00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:54,680 Speaker 1: after some time in which he tried to say he didn't, 756 00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:57,920 Speaker 1: remember he proceeded to. CONFESS i broke it off with 757 00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:03,520 Speaker 1: him right, there As i've had. Enough. Wow, Wow, okay 758 00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:07,280 Speaker 1: we do still have a lot of, storyline but, wow. 759 00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:09,360 Speaker 5: This is something that WHERE i agree. 760 00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:12,880 Speaker 4: With the breakup is. Fine your personalities are just you're drifting. 761 00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:16,400 Speaker 4: Off you found new, interests new hobbies that you really, 762 00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:20,240 Speaker 4: love and you cannot force people to change that way 763 00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:22,359 Speaker 4: if they do it with, you, great but if they 764 00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:24,120 Speaker 4: don't want to do, it you really can't force. Them 765 00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:25,680 Speaker 4: and if you don't want to do, it that's, perfect 766 00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:26,680 Speaker 4: okay with splitting. 767 00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:28,680 Speaker 1: UP i don't even think it's. THAT i think it's 768 00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:30,919 Speaker 1: just the lie that made her do. IT i don't 769 00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:32,839 Speaker 1: think it's the fact that he's, LIKE i don't want 770 00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:35,480 Speaker 1: to eat, THAT i want to eat. McDonald's it's more 771 00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:38,000 Speaker 1: than like she was helping in some way to make those, 772 00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:39,560 Speaker 1: lunches in the fact they just threw it. 773 00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:41,600 Speaker 4: Away like it could be the toxic trait of, like, 774 00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:45,000 Speaker 4: Hey i'm doing all of, this Like i'm getting, healthier 775 00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:46,920 Speaker 4: and like you're trying to put that in everyone's, life 776 00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:48,719 Speaker 4: and like if they don't, say, HEY i don't want. 777 00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:50,799 Speaker 4: That and that's one, Thing but it seems like the 778 00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:53,920 Speaker 4: boyfriend agreed to like a healthy lifestyle and it was, Like, 779 00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:56,160 Speaker 4: okay let's do this. Together i'm down for a healthy 780 00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:58,879 Speaker 4: lifestyle and just blatantly lied and just, like, No i'm 781 00:36:58,920 --> 00:36:59,280 Speaker 4: just gonna. 782 00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:02,360 Speaker 1: Eat maybe just the jealousy vibes trying to be, like, 783 00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:04,200 Speaker 1: hey lets you don't. Healthy let's you don't. Healthy she's, like, 784 00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:05,160 Speaker 1: NO i don't want to do. THAT i want to 785 00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:05,360 Speaker 1: keep you. 786 00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:08,400 Speaker 4: Going it seemed like there were JUST opi had their 787 00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:10,799 Speaker 4: own lifestyle and the boyfriend had their own, lifestyle and 788 00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:13,440 Speaker 4: they just split, off like they didn't go to movies together. 789 00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:16,640 Speaker 4: Anymore LIKE i think you have to find a good 790 00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:20,120 Speaker 4: median of, Both like you can have a cheap, day 791 00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:23,160 Speaker 4: cheat day is, fine that's allowed if you. Want WHEN opi, said, 792 00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:24,880 Speaker 4: oh the idea of going to the, movies, Like i'm 793 00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:26,440 Speaker 4: just don't want for. That i'm, like you also are 794 00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:28,440 Speaker 4: dating this, Person like you guys don't have to have 795 00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:31,479 Speaker 4: a Like, okay we're either doing running or we're sitting 796 00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:33,080 Speaker 4: on the couch all. Day it's, like you guys can 797 00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:35,000 Speaker 4: go out to, dinner you guys can go to the. 798 00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:36,920 Speaker 4: Movies you guys can do. Something but it seems like 799 00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:39,440 Speaker 4: they both naturally just like weren't agreeing with. 800 00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:44,600 Speaker 1: Anything, well let's agree tinue this story. Now he told 801 00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:47,600 Speaker 1: everyone THAT i became a shallow witch WHEN i lost, 802 00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:50,120 Speaker 1: weight AND i want to have a man with abs 803 00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:53,800 Speaker 1: and B i. Candy everyone believes. Him this is a small, 804 00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:57,000 Speaker 1: town And i'm being seen as the thing shallow. Witch 805 00:37:57,280 --> 00:38:00,359 Speaker 1: at the same, time he's sending dozens of messages every 806 00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:04,760 Speaker 1: one hundred plus asking me to consider it that he loves. 807 00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:06,879 Speaker 1: Me what CAN i? DO i love him a lot 808 00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:08,520 Speaker 1: AND i want to be with, him but NOW i 809 00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:11,359 Speaker 1: just don't recognize, him and our fun times of the 810 00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:15,160 Speaker 1: past are completely. LOST i fell in love with his 811 00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:19,560 Speaker 1: full of, energy always moving, persona not this lazy person 812 00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:23,360 Speaker 1: a shadow of what he want. Was he promised me 813 00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:26,120 Speaker 1: that he would change and asked me to go to 814 00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:29,680 Speaker 1: the doctor Because i'm completely obsessed with. It with all these, 815 00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:32,719 Speaker 1: TROUBLES i lost the additional ten, pounds which makes his 816 00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:36,040 Speaker 1: story even more. Credible SHOULD i go back to him 817 00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:38,400 Speaker 1: and trust that he's going to be back and go 818 00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:41,960 Speaker 1: to a doctor as he? Asked AM i completely delusional 819 00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:45,440 Speaker 1: and out of? LINE i hate being bath. MOUTHED i 820 00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:49,000 Speaker 1: don't have thick, skin and these comments really hurt. Me reddit, 821 00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:51,799 Speaker 1: help there are some comments. Here before you get into the, 822 00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:56,040 Speaker 1: COMMENTS i will say there is such a thing as 823 00:38:56,400 --> 00:39:01,040 Speaker 1: being too, fit too in, shape where it circles back to. 824 00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:04,360 Speaker 1: Unhealthy Like i've had friends who worked out until they 825 00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:06,719 Speaker 1: had to go to the, Hospital AND i don't know 826 00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:09,719 Speaker 1: if that's the level of fixation THAT op has right, 827 00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:12,480 Speaker 1: here like where you were already starting, at like five 828 00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:16,040 Speaker 1: ten one point fifty what like is? NORMAL i think. 829 00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:17,840 Speaker 5: Some, people Like puppy, says they have a lot of. 830 00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:18,759 Speaker 5: Energy they like working. 831 00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:20,640 Speaker 4: Out that's, okay but as long as you do it 832 00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:23,040 Speaker 4: in a healthy manner and you're not obsessed with. 833 00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:25,600 Speaker 1: IT i think if you get much smaller than, that like, 834 00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:30,120 Speaker 1: now you're leaning towards not healthy, territory like six three one, 835 00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:34,440 Speaker 1: Eighty LIKE i can't imagine being three inches taller and 836 00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:37,319 Speaker 1: also twenty pounds. Lighter and, AGAIN i don't think it's 837 00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:39,440 Speaker 1: the fact that he's not wanting to lose weight or 838 00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:41,399 Speaker 1: he doesn't want to eat health. ANYMORE i think really 839 00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:43,160 Speaker 1: the root of it was like that he was just 840 00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:47,080 Speaker 1: lying and he's clearly not that. Lazy if he's six 841 00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:51,000 Speaker 1: three one, eighty, like there's a level of some kind 842 00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:52,560 Speaker 1: of upkeep going on. 843 00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:56,359 Speaker 4: There back to it with the, relationship they instantly, well 844 00:39:56,719 --> 00:39:58,920 Speaker 4: op broke up with, Him like you broke up with, 845 00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:01,200 Speaker 4: him and now you feel bad that he's bad mouthing 846 00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:03,200 Speaker 4: you like the badmouthing is really, dumb but then you 847 00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:05,000 Speaker 4: want to get back together with. HIM i feel like 848 00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:07,400 Speaker 4: you guys jumped it way too. Quickly you should have 849 00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:10,440 Speaker 4: definitely had a conversation of why he's doing, this rather Than, 850 00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:11,080 Speaker 4: Nope i'm. 851 00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:12,680 Speaker 5: Done why why did you do? 852 00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:15,600 Speaker 1: That, yeah it was a pretty quick. Decision let's get 853 00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:18,279 Speaker 1: into the. Update they're not, update they're. Comments comment number one, 854 00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:20,600 Speaker 1: weight he's sixty three one hundred and eighty pounds and 855 00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:23,680 Speaker 1: you want him to lose. Weight, Reply i'm glad this 856 00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:25,879 Speaker 1: isn't buried at the. BOTTOM i would love to hear 857 00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:29,120 Speaker 1: his side BECAUSE op sounds unbalanced and seems to be 858 00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:32,560 Speaker 1: skewing details to paint her in a better. Light another, 859 00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:35,120 Speaker 1: reply she was one p fifty five at five to, 860 00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:37,919 Speaker 1: ten she was already considered normal weight for her. Height 861 00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:40,440 Speaker 1: she or possibly both of, them might have some skewed 862 00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:43,319 Speaker 1: body image. Issues Replies, Yes i'm five to ten and 863 00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:46,400 Speaker 1: in the upper one thirties and developed an eating disorder 864 00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:48,759 Speaker 1: WHEN i tried to lose. Weight not THAT bmi is 865 00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:51,360 Speaker 1: a reliable, indicator but if you plan on getting yourself 866 00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:54,000 Speaker 1: under that, threshold you probably need the help of a 867 00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:57,719 Speaker 1: nutritionist or other professional to keep you physically and mentally on, 868 00:40:57,880 --> 00:41:00,360 Speaker 1: track like they do with film stars losing weight for a. 869 00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:05,200 Speaker 1: Role then, again everyone's. Different obviously my experiences aren't, everyone's 870 00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:07,840 Speaker 1: and Maybe op fell to her lowest weight naturally without 871 00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:10,719 Speaker 1: pushing too, hard then realized she wanted to gain some 872 00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:13,520 Speaker 1: muscle at any. Rate op has painted a picture of a, 873 00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:16,359 Speaker 1: jealous controlling boyfriend who won't accept her. Breakup six three 874 00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:18,480 Speaker 1: point eighty is a number you can be proud, of 875 00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:22,319 Speaker 1: but being possessive or cleaning of your so. Isn't, yeah 876 00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:24,640 Speaker 1: that was kind of also my earlier takeaway of like 877 00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:27,560 Speaker 1: it might just be that he's like getting cringey about 878 00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:29,560 Speaker 1: other men thinking she's. 879 00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:32,319 Speaker 4: Attractive she's very happy with everything and it's good For, 880 00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:34,920 Speaker 4: ope but you got taking the consideration of how does 881 00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:37,759 Speaker 4: this make your partner, feel you, know like maybe it 882 00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:39,319 Speaker 4: went too, Far like a little bit too. 883 00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:43,280 Speaker 1: Much could be also To op's, boyfriend that's hot girlfriend. Syndrome, 884 00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:46,520 Speaker 1: dude when you have hot, girlfriend other people guess. What 885 00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:49,440 Speaker 1: other people can see her with their eyes and they 886 00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:50,320 Speaker 1: can tell that she's. 887 00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:52,600 Speaker 4: Like again saying all those bad things and like oh, no, 888 00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:54,640 Speaker 4: NO i love you and using THE i love you or. 889 00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:57,040 Speaker 5: It is, like oh it's love is not an. Excuse 890 00:41:57,120 --> 00:41:57,879 Speaker 5: that doesn't seem like it's. 891 00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:00,960 Speaker 1: Love so far whack on both sides from my, perspective 892 00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:03,840 Speaker 1: we made healthy. Lunches a man who's six y three and, 893 00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:06,560 Speaker 1: exercise he needs a f ton of. Food her healthy 894 00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:09,040 Speaker 1: lunches were probably some three hundred calorie piece of crap 895 00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:11,440 Speaker 1: lunch he pulled off Of. Pinterest she clearly has no 896 00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:14,279 Speaker 1: idea about. Fitness wanting your boyfriend to lose weight at 897 00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:17,719 Speaker 1: one hundred and eighty, pounds professional male athletes who are six' 898 00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:20,960 Speaker 1: three are basically always heavier than. ONE eighty i think 899 00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:23,359 Speaker 1: the long distance runners who are sixty three are even 900 00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:26,040 Speaker 1: one seventy to. One eighty, if anything if he's trying to, 901 00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:28,360 Speaker 1: be fit he's probably going to increase. His weight she 902 00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:30,479 Speaker 1: doesn't know the first thing about what she's, talking ABOUT 903 00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:32,680 Speaker 1: and i don't believe a word. She says we've arrived at. 904 00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:35,359 Speaker 1: The update we's. Hop end it Sounds like i've left 905 00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:38,719 Speaker 1: some important. DETAILS out i read all your comments and, 906 00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:41,719 Speaker 1: realized that but it was too late to reply as 907 00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:43,719 Speaker 1: there were, too MANY so i prefer to add some 908 00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:46,640 Speaker 1: explanations in. THIS update i thank you all for. YOUR 909 00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:49,719 Speaker 1: comments i wasn't expecting such a. Big response some of 910 00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:52,120 Speaker 1: your comments, were HURTFUL and i don't really GET what 911 00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:54,440 Speaker 1: i have said to. Deserve That but i'll try my 912 00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:58,000 Speaker 1: best to. Explain. MYSELF first i never said that we 913 00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:00,759 Speaker 1: weren't at a, healthy weight OR that i think he 914 00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:03,279 Speaker 1: is overweight or at a. BAD weight i don't know 915 00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:05,799 Speaker 1: why people assumed THAT when i never, said IT and 916 00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:08,920 Speaker 1: i don't really get all the weights that were thrown in. 917 00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:11,960 Speaker 1: The post every person carries their, weight differently and some 918 00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:14,520 Speaker 1: of you sounded offended As if i've said your weight. 919 00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:17,439 Speaker 1: IS bad i never said anything about. His weight he 920 00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:19,080 Speaker 1: was the one who was trying to get fit again 921 00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:21,840 Speaker 1: as he went from really fit to somewhat skinny Fat 922 00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:24,200 Speaker 1: as he was the one who was not happy, with this. 923 00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:27,160 Speaker 1: Not ME what i said is that we were not 924 00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:29,600 Speaker 1: as fit as we were in. The past we were 925 00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:33,359 Speaker 1: both gym rats and health. NUTS both i met him at. 926 00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:36,560 Speaker 1: THE gym i have never pressured him to. Exercise whatsoever 927 00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:40,040 Speaker 1: we fell in love because we had similar interests, outdoor, 928 00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:43,200 Speaker 1: activities exercised taking care of. Our bodies he was really 929 00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:45,640 Speaker 1: proud of. His abs, for example when, we met he 930 00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:49,040 Speaker 1: was six three one ninety and, pure muscle more than 931 00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:52,840 Speaker 1: what he. WEIGHS now i was five ten and one thirty. Five, 932 00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:55,960 Speaker 1: toned however we started to relax in the food that. 933 00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:58,120 Speaker 1: We ate we started to drink more and eat a 934 00:43:58,120 --> 00:44:00,880 Speaker 1: lot of, fast food even though we can continued. Exercising 935 00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:04,080 Speaker 1: daily we sort of Became skinnat HE and i developed a, 936 00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:07,880 Speaker 1: small belly and we were not happy, with, it again both. 937 00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:10,800 Speaker 1: Of us that's why we tried to enter the cut 938 00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:13,720 Speaker 1: phase and then we would go into the. Bulk phase 939 00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:16,640 Speaker 1: you THOUGHT that i wanted him to, Lose weight you. 940 00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:19,319 Speaker 1: WERE wrong i didn't pressure him to. Do this he 941 00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:21,640 Speaker 1: was always talking about how he missed his muscles and 942 00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:24,280 Speaker 1: how he was stronger in. The past so we decided 943 00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:26,799 Speaker 1: as a couple that we would be. Healthy together he 944 00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:29,680 Speaker 1: was happy with, our progress but seemed really surprised that 945 00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:32,960 Speaker 1: his weight. HAD stalled i was worried, about HIM as 946 00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:35,680 Speaker 1: i didn't understand why his efforts. WEREN'T working i was 947 00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:38,320 Speaker 1: sad because he seemed sad with the lack, of results 948 00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:41,000 Speaker 1: and THAT'S why i was so MAD when i discovered 949 00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:43,840 Speaker 1: that he had been eating fast food behind. My back 950 00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:46,800 Speaker 1: first because he was throwing, away Food which i'm. Completely 951 00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:50,560 Speaker 1: against SECOND because i was researching lots of things and 952 00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:54,080 Speaker 1: was WORRIED because i didn't understand why he wasn't. Seeing, 953 00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:57,759 Speaker 1: RESULTS third i didn't understand why he was lying. TO 954 00:44:57,800 --> 00:45:00,279 Speaker 1: me i never pressured him to get. IN shape i 955 00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:03,520 Speaker 1: love him, either WAY so i didn't understand why he 956 00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:04,200 Speaker 1: was lying. To me. 957 00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:04,960 Speaker 3: Go ahead you. 958 00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:07,680 Speaker 4: Weren't pressuring, your partner but then you, were like let's go, 959 00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:09,880 Speaker 4: on runs let's, do this let's, Do that and you 960 00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:11,920 Speaker 4: just kept, reiterating, like oh he wants you to like just 961 00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:13,279 Speaker 4: go to, the movies and you're, like, no, no, NO 962 00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:14,800 Speaker 4: no i want to go, DO this i want to, 963 00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:16,719 Speaker 4: GO exercise i want to. Do this he seemed like 964 00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:18,759 Speaker 4: a burden, to you and you made him feel like. 965 00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:21,520 Speaker 4: A burden i'm not saying that's, the scenario but what 966 00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:24,040 Speaker 4: we got earlier in the story Again when, opie, said 967 00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:26,200 Speaker 4: oh we don't have the same. Interest anymore maybe he 968 00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:28,840 Speaker 4: just felt. Burnt out it's. A thing it, is burnout 969 00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:31,120 Speaker 4: like you get burnt out of working out or you're 970 00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:32,960 Speaker 4: just fatigued from it and it's okay. 971 00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:34,520 Speaker 5: To rest but maybe he was just happy where. 972 00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:36,759 Speaker 1: HE was i was just mad about being skinny fat 973 00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:39,400 Speaker 1: because you SAID that i. Should be and maybe she 974 00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:40,360 Speaker 1: doesn't even realize she. 975 00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:43,759 Speaker 4: Did that he was just really Upset that ope progressed 976 00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:46,440 Speaker 4: or they did the same amount, of Work but opie's 977 00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:50,440 Speaker 4: progress had results and her boyfriend didn't have, any results 978 00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:52,279 Speaker 4: and that it probably made him even. FEEL worse I 979 00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:55,040 Speaker 4: think ope's THINKING like, i never like explicitly like. Pressured 980 00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:57,399 Speaker 4: him IT'S like i was never like telling me needed 981 00:45:57,440 --> 00:45:59,319 Speaker 4: to do it. Or else but, IT'S like, i think 982 00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:03,440 Speaker 4: just you being so militant about getting, in shape like 983 00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:06,359 Speaker 4: is the pressure in and. Of itself i'm not trying 984 00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:08,360 Speaker 4: to pin this on anyone, just yet BUT like, i 985 00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:11,279 Speaker 4: said these are two different people on two different roads 986 00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:14,080 Speaker 4: where they like, we met we were, so happy and 987 00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:15,160 Speaker 4: then you converged into. 988 00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:15,800 Speaker 5: Something different. 989 00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:19,000 Speaker 1: It HAPPENS so i never pressured him into getting. IN 990 00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:21,640 Speaker 1: shape i love him, either WAY so i didn't understand 991 00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:23,520 Speaker 1: why he was lying. To me he could have just 992 00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:25,799 Speaker 1: said that he didn't want to eat Healthy and i'd 993 00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:28,480 Speaker 1: have been completely okay. With it and he KNOWS that 994 00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:31,200 Speaker 1: i never said a bad thing about, his BODY and 995 00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:34,040 Speaker 1: i find him white attractive when he is at one 996 00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:36,719 Speaker 1: hundred and eighty or one hundred and ninety. Or whatever 997 00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:39,560 Speaker 1: when he, STOPPED exercising i was SAD because i lost, 998 00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:43,080 Speaker 1: MY partner i mean. WORKOUT partner i assume do you 999 00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:45,239 Speaker 1: know that activity that you do with your husband since, 1000 00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:48,200 Speaker 1: you've met and that's really special for both. Of you 1001 00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:52,799 Speaker 1: that was exercise. To us since, we've met we've. Exercised 1002 00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:56,160 Speaker 1: together we've tried lots of sports and fun. Outdoor activities 1003 00:46:56,280 --> 00:46:58,400 Speaker 1: when he started to, REFUSE going i felt like he 1004 00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:00,400 Speaker 1: didn't want to spend more time, with ME and i 1005 00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:02,440 Speaker 1: was sad about IT because i felt like we were 1006 00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:05,160 Speaker 1: losing a big part of. Our relationship i'm not a 1007 00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:07,319 Speaker 1: person who likes to relax on, the sofa and he 1008 00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:10,200 Speaker 1: wasn't like. That, either again one of the things that 1009 00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:12,200 Speaker 1: made us fall in love with each other was the 1010 00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:15,160 Speaker 1: fact that he was really active and had lots. Of 1011 00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:18,960 Speaker 1: energy he KNOWS that i HATE, watching tv, for example 1012 00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:22,120 Speaker 1: and he was like. That too so the change was 1013 00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:26,080 Speaker 1: strange and left. Me CONFUSED then i lost weight until 1014 00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:29,520 Speaker 1: one twenty five because of, the breakup Not because, i'm 1015 00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:32,720 Speaker 1: anorexic for, F's sake i'm now in a. BULKING phase 1016 00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:35,200 Speaker 1: i just had trouble EATING because i was really sad 1017 00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:37,480 Speaker 1: about breaking up with him and. Our separation we've been 1018 00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:41,480 Speaker 1: dating for a, long time four years, almost FIVE and 1019 00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:45,200 Speaker 1: i feel lost. Without him i've been crying a LOT 1020 00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:47,760 Speaker 1: and i used exercise to make me think of. Other 1021 00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:51,400 Speaker 1: things oh, my god five years? Over that why did you? 1022 00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:53,719 Speaker 1: Do that there's got to be more. Than that right? 1023 00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:57,080 Speaker 1: FIVE years i was, thinking, like oh they've probably dated 1024 00:47:57,160 --> 00:47:58,719 Speaker 1: less than. A year five years you've been with this 1025 00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:00,160 Speaker 1: guy and you broke up with him because he was 1026 00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:02,120 Speaker 1: eating cheap meals. BEHIND you i know that throwing the 1027 00:48:02,120 --> 00:48:05,200 Speaker 1: food away. IS cringe i know him lying to you is. 1028 00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:08,440 Speaker 1: Not good he was cheating, On, her yeah he was 1029 00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:09,759 Speaker 1: cheat mealing. ON her i. 1030 00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:12,319 Speaker 4: Guarantee you he just felt like, a burden like your. 1031 00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:14,680 Speaker 4: LIFESTYLE was i want to go back to the way, 1032 00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:17,319 Speaker 4: we were and, He's like i'm happy with what we. Are, 1033 00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:19,600 Speaker 4: now yes we wanted to work out and get. Healthy 1034 00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:22,440 Speaker 4: AGAIN but I think opi went back into the that 1035 00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:25,399 Speaker 4: old mindset of like full. ON grind i want let 1036 00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:29,279 Speaker 4: what we, were before and you can't. Have that it 1037 00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:31,960 Speaker 4: seems like his mentality, is, Like no i'm in, the 1038 00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:34,600 Speaker 4: present and, Seems like ohpi's mine is more so in 1039 00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:35,080 Speaker 4: the past. 1040 00:48:35,120 --> 00:48:38,000 Speaker 1: FOR sure a crazy thing to break, up over like on, 1041 00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:42,480 Speaker 1: the spot not, Even, elaborations okay let's. Keep GOING when 1042 00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:45,680 Speaker 1: i NOTICED that i, WAS underweight i immediately forced myself. 1043 00:48:45,719 --> 00:48:47,600 Speaker 1: TO eat i don't want to. BE skinny i want to. 1044 00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:50,480 Speaker 1: Be FIT so i thank you for all, the CONCERNS 1045 00:48:50,560 --> 00:48:52,920 Speaker 1: but i guarantee You that i'm, not INTERAREXIC that i 1046 00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:54,920 Speaker 1: don't want to be one hundred and. Twenty five my 1047 00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:57,440 Speaker 1: goal weight is one, thirty five JUST like i was 1048 00:48:57,440 --> 00:48:59,160 Speaker 1: in the past at the peak of my fitness. And 1049 00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:01,799 Speaker 1: health and at one, Thirty five i'm not underweight as 1050 00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:03,640 Speaker 1: some of. You said it's a healthy weight. For me 1051 00:49:04,239 --> 00:49:06,799 Speaker 1: i'm all. FOR health i wouldn't aim for anything that would. 1052 00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:09,920 Speaker 1: Be unhealthy That's why i'm gaining weight. Right now i'm 1053 00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:13,279 Speaker 1: very careful with. My, health finally about telling people in, the, 1054 00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:16,680 Speaker 1: city well he decided to talk about our breakup with 1055 00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:19,000 Speaker 1: his friends and they were the ones who started. Telling 1056 00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:22,360 Speaker 1: everyone as this is a small town and his friends didn't, 1057 00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:24,560 Speaker 1: like me they decided to SAY that i was looking 1058 00:49:24,560 --> 00:49:27,000 Speaker 1: for a health guru and a man, with abs And 1059 00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:29,560 Speaker 1: that i'm a shallow witch. To everyone as they are 1060 00:49:29,640 --> 00:49:32,799 Speaker 1: Locals and. I'm not everyone. Believes them it was not 1061 00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:35,439 Speaker 1: him that told. The PEOPLE when i made the, FIRST 1062 00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:37,759 Speaker 1: post i thought it was him that was talking about 1063 00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:40,360 Speaker 1: our breakup, with everyone but he told me that he didn't, 1064 00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:42,440 Speaker 1: do that and the ones who did were, his friends 1065 00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:44,840 Speaker 1: and he's angry with them because. OF it i. Was, 1066 00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:48,520 Speaker 1: WRONG fortunately i have, no family and the FEW friends 1067 00:49:48,560 --> 00:49:51,840 Speaker 1: i have here are his close, friends too so they stood. 1068 00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:54,719 Speaker 1: By him can't. Fault them they know him better than they. 1069 00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:57,279 Speaker 1: Know me i'm kind of shy. And quiet so, we 1070 00:49:57,360 --> 00:49:59,520 Speaker 1: talked and he told me that he was concerned, about 1071 00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:01,760 Speaker 1: me and one wanted me to see a doctor because 1072 00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:04,400 Speaker 1: of my recent. WEIGHT loss i EXPLAINED that i was 1073 00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:06,799 Speaker 1: trying to, gain WEIGHT that i didn't want to be one, 1074 00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:10,080 Speaker 1: twenty FIVE and i just lost weight because we were 1075 00:50:10,080 --> 00:50:12,600 Speaker 1: on bad terms and it hurt me. That much he 1076 00:50:12,680 --> 00:50:14,759 Speaker 1: then explained to me that he wasn't the one who 1077 00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:17,640 Speaker 1: told other people about, the breakup that it was the 1078 00:50:17,719 --> 00:50:20,720 Speaker 1: friends and he was disappointed. With them he also said 1079 00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:23,040 Speaker 1: that he wanted to get in shape but couldn't resist. 1080 00:50:23,120 --> 00:50:25,520 Speaker 1: Fast food he'd been eating it daily at lunch and 1081 00:50:25,640 --> 00:50:28,320 Speaker 1: was ashamed of not being able to resist. THE temptations 1082 00:50:28,640 --> 00:50:30,640 Speaker 1: i told him that he didn't need to eat healthy 1083 00:50:30,680 --> 00:50:33,520 Speaker 1: if he didn't, Want to i'd be totally okay, with 1084 00:50:33,560 --> 00:50:35,759 Speaker 1: IT and i just wished that he could communicate with 1085 00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:38,839 Speaker 1: me and tell me about. HIS fears i APOLOGIZED if 1086 00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:41,479 Speaker 1: i ever came across as a shallow person or someone 1087 00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:44,200 Speaker 1: who wouldn't listen. TO it i loved him a lot 1088 00:50:44,239 --> 00:50:46,640 Speaker 1: and didn't want to lose him over such a minor 1089 00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:50,600 Speaker 1: and unimportant thing is. Fast food he then confessed that 1090 00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:53,880 Speaker 1: he decided not to, exercise more even though it was 1091 00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:56,600 Speaker 1: hard for him as he. Loved it he decided to 1092 00:50:56,600 --> 00:51:00,239 Speaker 1: stop because he was ashamed of not being able to this, 1093 00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:03,000 Speaker 1: fast food and he wanted me to be lazy, like 1094 00:51:03,080 --> 00:51:05,400 Speaker 1: him so we would be equals, that way which is 1095 00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:08,719 Speaker 1: also an extremely toxic way. To think he said that 1096 00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:11,960 Speaker 1: now we would continue to exercise as we've, always done 1097 00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:15,120 Speaker 1: and he wouldn't try to hide eating, fast food nor 1098 00:51:15,160 --> 00:51:17,879 Speaker 1: would he throw the. FOOD away i ended up breaking 1099 00:51:17,960 --> 00:51:20,160 Speaker 1: up with him, that night and now we are. Together 1100 00:51:20,239 --> 00:51:23,600 Speaker 1: again communicating was very good, for US and i hope 1101 00:51:23,600 --> 00:51:26,920 Speaker 1: that in the future we will remember this lesson and 1102 00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:29,600 Speaker 1: learn to continue to communicate and be honest with. Each, 1103 00:51:29,640 --> 00:51:30,680 Speaker 1: other yeah. 1104 00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:35,440 Speaker 4: It's crazy he was feeling away and, felt ashamed and 1105 00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:39,680 Speaker 4: you were feeling away and definitely on him, For SURE 1106 00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:41,319 Speaker 4: but i think it was again a little bit. 1107 00:51:41,320 --> 00:51:44,279 Speaker 1: Of, pressure yeah you. Little goobers just need to learn 1108 00:51:44,320 --> 00:51:47,719 Speaker 1: how to. HAVE dialogue i love him. A lot i 1109 00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:50,759 Speaker 1: can't imagine a. Better person he, is, kind, compassionate, nice 1110 00:51:50,760 --> 00:51:53,680 Speaker 1: smart and we share the. Same interests we. Are compatible 1111 00:51:54,160 --> 00:51:56,279 Speaker 1: he is my, dream MAN everything i could. Wish For 1112 00:51:56,320 --> 00:51:58,319 Speaker 1: and i'm SORRY if i misrepresented him in the. FIRST 1113 00:51:58,400 --> 00:52:02,319 Speaker 1: post i HOPE that i could explain. Everything again thank you. 1114 00:52:02,360 --> 00:52:04,600 Speaker 1: Read it everything is fine right now and, we're happy 1115 00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:07,640 Speaker 1: and there's. An edit i'm. FEELING shifty i just felt 1116 00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:09,480 Speaker 1: so weird to me that it's like he's my, dream 1117 00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:12,040 Speaker 1: man is my. True love like, We're compatible we're fully, 1118 00:52:12,040 --> 00:52:14,319 Speaker 1: Of this we're, Fully that and it's like you would 1119 00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:18,520 Speaker 1: literally just before have, been like we're. Completely incompatible we've lost. 1120 00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:20,920 Speaker 1: Our ways he's a completely. Different person and, For that 1121 00:52:21,360 --> 00:52:22,120 Speaker 1: i'm out very. 1122 00:52:22,160 --> 00:52:24,239 Speaker 4: Wishy WASHY but i think it was just like a 1123 00:52:24,360 --> 00:52:27,239 Speaker 4: lot of underlying layers that no one. 1124 00:52:27,280 --> 00:52:29,279 Speaker 1: Talked about you, KNOW what i bet you. IT was 1125 00:52:29,840 --> 00:52:32,200 Speaker 1: i bet you was because she thought he was. Talking 1126 00:52:32,280 --> 00:52:35,760 Speaker 1: smack she thought he was the one going around running 1127 00:52:35,800 --> 00:52:39,480 Speaker 1: around talking smack on. Their relationship if that, WAS me 1128 00:52:39,719 --> 00:52:42,359 Speaker 1: i would also, be, like yeah you, know what we 1129 00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:45,279 Speaker 1: are uncompatible and nothing about this guy even lines up, 1130 00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:47,960 Speaker 1: with me and you, know what this guy freaking and 1131 00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:50,880 Speaker 1: he can be, lazy FOREVER like i would probably be 1132 00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:53,479 Speaker 1: UPSET if, i thought but now we know. The truth 1133 00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:57,440 Speaker 1: he's just got lame friends. For you but in the context, 1134 00:52:57,440 --> 00:53:00,200 Speaker 1: of him those friends are, good friends but they're not 1135 00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:01,719 Speaker 1: going about it the. Right way and there is. An. 1136 00:53:01,880 --> 00:53:04,799 Speaker 1: Edit okay he never, controlled me, my CLOTHES where i, 1137 00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:07,040 Speaker 1: was going or THE people i. Talked to he is 1138 00:53:07,080 --> 00:53:10,360 Speaker 1: not the. Jealous type he has never done. Anything physical 1139 00:53:10,440 --> 00:53:14,399 Speaker 1: he's never forced me to do the spicy TANGO when 1140 00:53:14,440 --> 00:53:16,719 Speaker 1: i wasn't in. The mood he never did anything. Like 1141 00:53:16,760 --> 00:53:19,080 Speaker 1: that this was the first time he lied, to me 1142 00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:22,400 Speaker 1: and he promised he wouldn't. Do. It twice he tried 1143 00:53:22,520 --> 00:53:25,200 Speaker 1: not to fall in love, with me but was unable 1144 00:53:25,239 --> 00:53:27,799 Speaker 1: to resist because he loved me. Too much why is? 1145 00:53:27,840 --> 00:53:31,799 Speaker 1: That bad why is The sentence he could have any 1146 00:53:31,840 --> 00:53:34,359 Speaker 1: girl that he wanted and he chose me bad? For 1147 00:53:34,440 --> 00:53:36,799 Speaker 1: YOU am i? Not enough WHAT have i done to 1148 00:53:36,840 --> 00:53:39,160 Speaker 1: make you so angry? WITH me I know i'm immature. 1149 00:53:39,160 --> 00:53:41,640 Speaker 1: AND dumb, i know but several people are and they 1150 00:53:41,640 --> 00:53:44,200 Speaker 1: are not as CRITICIZED as. I was i think this 1151 00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:48,440 Speaker 1: is ope addressing commenters, being like, you know what? Shut 1152 00:53:48,520 --> 00:53:51,360 Speaker 1: UP when i wrote the, first post everyone accused me 1153 00:53:51,400 --> 00:53:54,400 Speaker 1: of having an, eating disorder, being shallow masking, the situation 1154 00:53:54,560 --> 00:53:57,960 Speaker 1: lying about, what happened and. Manipulating him now he's the 1155 00:53:58,000 --> 00:54:01,719 Speaker 1: one who is accused it of manipulating me and being. A, 1156 00:54:01,800 --> 00:54:04,520 Speaker 1: diddler yes someone said that about him in a, private 1157 00:54:04,520 --> 00:54:07,280 Speaker 1: message of taking advantage. Of me why does EVERY post 1158 00:54:07,280 --> 00:54:10,920 Speaker 1: i make generate such a? Hate wave, i'm. Tired boss 1159 00:54:11,360 --> 00:54:13,719 Speaker 1: the comments page was even harder to read than the, 1160 00:54:13,719 --> 00:54:16,560 Speaker 1: first one and it's really hurtful that everyone is saying 1161 00:54:16,560 --> 00:54:19,520 Speaker 1: such bad things about. MY relationship i thank you all 1162 00:54:19,800 --> 00:54:22,560 Speaker 1: for your advice and. Kind words some of you were, 1163 00:54:22,560 --> 00:54:24,840 Speaker 1: really KIND and i can't thank, you ENOUGH but i 1164 00:54:24,880 --> 00:54:26,680 Speaker 1: wanted to let you know that some of your words, 1165 00:54:26,960 --> 00:54:30,000 Speaker 1: really hurt Really and i'm weak and this was. Too 1166 00:54:30,120 --> 00:54:32,600 Speaker 1: much i've been reading this with my boyfriend and he is. 1167 00:54:32,640 --> 00:54:35,719 Speaker 1: SO hurt i can only cry. For him he didn't. Deserve, this, 1168 00:54:36,080 --> 00:54:40,200 Speaker 1: guys hello take, your computer. Close it you don't have 1169 00:54:40,280 --> 00:54:42,600 Speaker 1: to read every comment On the. Reddit post if it's making, 1170 00:54:42,600 --> 00:54:45,719 Speaker 1: you upset you don't have to do. This anymore just 1171 00:54:45,800 --> 00:54:49,160 Speaker 1: like how if you stop watching, this show you can 1172 00:54:49,200 --> 00:54:53,520 Speaker 1: always listen to full episodes with stories, like this and 1173 00:54:53,719 --> 00:54:56,440 Speaker 1: you can listen to Them, On spotify apple podcast or 1174 00:54:56,440 --> 00:54:59,040 Speaker 1: wherever you get your. Podcasts from Just search. Okay storytime 1175 00:54:59,200 --> 00:55:00,920 Speaker 1: all you have to do Is search. Okay storytime but 1176 00:55:01,440 --> 00:55:06,440 Speaker 1: we do have some story, Left, here keon do we 1177 00:55:06,520 --> 00:55:09,040 Speaker 1: have anything else talk? ABOUT here i just really. 1178 00:55:08,760 --> 00:55:10,400 Speaker 5: Don't understand how you date for. 1179 00:55:10,480 --> 00:55:13,560 Speaker 4: Five years you're so in love and this is like 1180 00:55:13,600 --> 00:55:16,000 Speaker 4: the man of, your dreams and then you catch him 1181 00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:18,200 Speaker 4: eating a cookie and he lied to you, about it 1182 00:55:18,239 --> 00:55:19,759 Speaker 4: and this is like the only time he's lied, to 1183 00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:23,359 Speaker 4: you and you really just jump it to. WE'RE done 1184 00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:26,279 Speaker 4: i don't understand how that without having even like a. 1185 00:55:26,360 --> 00:55:28,440 Speaker 4: Remote conversation maybe it was just the heat of the 1186 00:55:28,480 --> 00:55:32,000 Speaker 4: moment kind, of thing but even then, it's, like whoa 1187 00:55:32,400 --> 00:55:34,759 Speaker 4: that was. Really QUICK but i, THINK overall i mean 1188 00:55:34,840 --> 00:55:36,600 Speaker 4: great that you guys, are happy and you guys are 1189 00:55:36,600 --> 00:55:38,959 Speaker 4: going to work out and, you know live the lives 1190 00:55:38,960 --> 00:55:40,840 Speaker 4: that you want. TO live i just Hope that opie 1191 00:55:40,840 --> 00:55:43,520 Speaker 4: doesn't have that MINDSET of i want to just be my. 1192 00:55:43,719 --> 00:55:46,520 Speaker 4: Past self that's not who. You are you are your, 1193 00:55:46,520 --> 00:55:48,759 Speaker 4: presence self and then you can do that for. The 1194 00:55:48,800 --> 00:55:51,680 Speaker 4: future you can at least have some ideals from the 1195 00:55:51,719 --> 00:55:54,600 Speaker 4: past and work on, the future especially with. Your partner 1196 00:55:54,880 --> 00:55:57,160 Speaker 4: you want to do it together and not leave. 1197 00:55:57,200 --> 00:56:00,160 Speaker 1: Each other well spoken, my friend so he knew who 1198 00:56:00,239 --> 00:56:02,959 Speaker 1: about the backlash that both of us would or, will 1199 00:56:02,960 --> 00:56:06,040 Speaker 1: suffer and we've been suffering from it. Ever since but 1200 00:56:06,120 --> 00:56:09,080 Speaker 1: this situation was the worst of. Them all he feels 1201 00:56:09,080 --> 00:56:12,920 Speaker 1: disappointed with his friends for telling everybody about something he 1202 00:56:13,000 --> 00:56:16,799 Speaker 1: ranted about in secret. With them feels tired because of, 1203 00:56:16,800 --> 00:56:19,719 Speaker 1: the breakup and sad because of. THE comments i won't 1204 00:56:19,719 --> 00:56:22,439 Speaker 1: ever apologize to him enough for what he read. About 1205 00:56:22,520 --> 00:56:26,480 Speaker 1: him he didn't. Deserve it that's the. FINAL explanation i 1206 00:56:26,560 --> 00:56:29,920 Speaker 1: don't think there's anything more. To add and there are 1207 00:56:29,960 --> 00:56:33,440 Speaker 1: some comments comment one and he wanted me to be 1208 00:56:33,719 --> 00:56:36,120 Speaker 1: lazy as him because we would be equals. That way, 1209 00:56:36,480 --> 00:56:38,439 Speaker 1: In honesty now that you're back, WITH him i would 1210 00:56:38,440 --> 00:56:41,400 Speaker 1: be very cautious. About this this is not the mentality 1211 00:56:41,440 --> 00:56:43,759 Speaker 1: of someone who cares. About you that's the mentality of 1212 00:56:43,800 --> 00:56:46,239 Speaker 1: someone who wants you down in the mud. With them 1213 00:56:46,560 --> 00:56:50,040 Speaker 1: it's really the exact same mentality as. Op though this isn't. 1214 00:56:50,040 --> 00:56:52,200 Speaker 1: About way it's about the fact that, people change and 1215 00:56:52,239 --> 00:56:54,040 Speaker 1: he's changing in a way that you don't want to 1216 00:56:54,600 --> 00:56:57,480 Speaker 1: five years at your age is a, long time but 1217 00:56:57,600 --> 00:56:59,720 Speaker 1: please make sure to keep your sights on the things. 1218 00:57:00,320 --> 00:57:03,680 Speaker 1: In life, comment two quoting he, is, kind compassionate, Night 1219 00:57:03,719 --> 00:57:06,279 Speaker 1: smart we share the same interest and. We're compatible he's my, 1220 00:57:06,400 --> 00:57:08,799 Speaker 1: dream MAN everything i could. Wish For and i'm SORRY 1221 00:57:08,840 --> 00:57:11,879 Speaker 1: if i misrepresented him in my. First post this kind 1222 00:57:11,880 --> 00:57:15,879 Speaker 1: of sounds like he replaced you and posted this. For you, 1223 00:57:15,960 --> 00:57:18,560 Speaker 1: but okay please try and get your own friend group in. 1224 00:57:18,600 --> 00:57:22,040 Speaker 1: This city do not be dependent on, this guy especially 1225 00:57:22,160 --> 00:57:24,840 Speaker 1: as you apparently started dating him when you were sixteen 1226 00:57:24,920 --> 00:57:29,720 Speaker 1: and he was. Twenty two well that changes only the. Entire, Story, 1227 00:57:30,960 --> 00:57:34,680 Speaker 1: okay well? Almost done, Comment three so what is his 1228 00:57:34,720 --> 00:57:36,880 Speaker 1: plan for his friends that have been dragging your name through? 1229 00:57:36,880 --> 00:57:39,440 Speaker 1: The dirt he's disappointed, in them but he is he 1230 00:57:39,480 --> 00:57:42,200 Speaker 1: actually going to take? Any action, if not that is 1231 00:57:42,240 --> 00:57:45,960 Speaker 1: a pretty terrible new start to. The relationship you say everything's, 1232 00:57:46,000 --> 00:57:48,640 Speaker 1: fine now but it doesn't really sound. Like it all 1233 00:57:48,680 --> 00:57:50,880 Speaker 1: his friends dislike you and have been talking crap, about 1234 00:57:50,920 --> 00:57:53,240 Speaker 1: you and you don't have any of your. Own friends 1235 00:57:53,280 --> 00:57:56,720 Speaker 1: it still seems like a pretty. Bad situation what happens? 1236 00:57:56,720 --> 00:57:58,800 Speaker 1: Next time if you guys go through a? Rough patch? 1237 00:57:59,200 --> 00:58:01,479 Speaker 1: More crap talking and you losing all your friends again 1238 00:58:01,680 --> 00:58:04,840 Speaker 1: doesn't leave you in the, Best position, opie replies he's 1239 00:58:04,840 --> 00:58:07,920 Speaker 1: so sad. About it they. DISAPPOINTED him i don't think 1240 00:58:07,920 --> 00:58:09,880 Speaker 1: it's fair to make him think about it when he 1241 00:58:10,040 --> 00:58:13,960 Speaker 1: already blames himself for talking to them. So much they'll 1242 00:58:13,960 --> 00:58:16,440 Speaker 1: think about it when he. WAKES up i think alment 1243 00:58:16,640 --> 00:58:19,880 Speaker 1: was down voted thirty. FIVE times I think reddit really 1244 00:58:20,000 --> 00:58:21,840 Speaker 1: let you have it on, that one op because that's 1245 00:58:21,880 --> 00:58:22,160 Speaker 1: the end of. 1246 00:58:22,160 --> 00:58:25,800 Speaker 4: That STORY like i, said earlier they diverged as long 1247 00:58:25,840 --> 00:58:28,240 Speaker 4: as they can be mutual on everything and. Can agree 1248 00:58:28,520 --> 00:58:31,640 Speaker 4: not that my personality is just sitting on the couch 1249 00:58:31,680 --> 00:58:31,880 Speaker 4: and just. 1250 00:58:31,920 --> 00:58:33,720 Speaker 5: Hanging out my personality is just. 1251 00:58:33,800 --> 00:58:36,080 Speaker 4: Working out as long as you guys can have a 1252 00:58:36,280 --> 00:58:39,960 Speaker 4: median of, you know doing both of those things together 1253 00:58:40,440 --> 00:58:44,360 Speaker 4: and not, you know leaving one behind or dragging. One 1254 00:58:44,800 --> 00:58:47,960 Speaker 4: back is somewhere you can, manage it especially for five 1255 00:58:48,040 --> 00:58:51,200 Speaker 4: years of, you know. Being together THAT'S what. I, think. 1256 00:58:52,160 --> 00:58:54,240 Speaker 1: Hey, it's sam we'll get back to. The stories but 1257 00:58:54,320 --> 00:58:57,360 Speaker 1: here's three minutes of ads from. OUR sponsors i call that. 1258 00:58:57,520 --> 00:59:00,560 Speaker 3: My boyfriend's sister in. Law's flirting the whole family? 1259 00:59:00,600 --> 00:59:05,600 Speaker 1: Isn't chaos oh all over some harmless flirting between. 1260 00:59:05,920 --> 00:59:09,640 Speaker 3: In laws my thirty female boyfriend twenty nine male has 1261 00:59:09,680 --> 00:59:12,160 Speaker 3: an odd relationship with soon to be sister. In law 1262 00:59:12,360 --> 00:59:16,680 Speaker 3: it's causing. Major issues how do we? Solve this my 1263 00:59:16,720 --> 00:59:18,760 Speaker 3: BOYFRIEND and i have been together almost one and a. 1264 00:59:18,760 --> 00:59:21,840 Speaker 3: Half years this is the Best relationship i've ever. Been 1265 00:59:21,880 --> 00:59:24,640 Speaker 3: in he's a great person and we have no issues 1266 00:59:24,760 --> 00:59:28,320 Speaker 3: except for his. Brother's FIANCE when i first, MET her 1267 00:59:28,360 --> 00:59:30,880 Speaker 3: i really wanted for us to be, great friends but 1268 00:59:30,960 --> 00:59:32,840 Speaker 3: that hasn't been. The, case so by, the way this 1269 00:59:32,920 --> 00:59:34,880 Speaker 3: Comes From harry carry and if you want to smit your, 1270 00:59:34,880 --> 00:59:37,280 Speaker 3: own stories go to our slash. Showcase storytime subret it 1271 00:59:37,680 --> 00:59:41,360 Speaker 3: so literally the FIRST time i, met her she was wearing, 1272 00:59:41,360 --> 00:59:44,400 Speaker 3: a romper came out of, the, bathroom specifically went to 1273 00:59:44,440 --> 00:59:47,680 Speaker 3: my boyfriend to zip, her up but, To, NECK. HEY 1274 00:59:47,760 --> 00:59:50,400 Speaker 3: whoa i thought it, was odd but we, just MET 1275 00:59:50,440 --> 00:59:52,600 Speaker 3: so i didn't trip. On IT before i had. Met 1276 00:59:52,640 --> 00:59:56,000 Speaker 3: her he described her as his relationship advisor and that 1277 00:59:56,120 --> 00:59:59,160 Speaker 3: he told her about me and how excited he was about. 1278 00:59:59,160 --> 01:00:02,560 Speaker 3: Our relationship but Each time i've seen her almost weekly 1279 01:00:02,600 --> 01:00:03,920 Speaker 3: in the one and, half years she's made. 1280 01:00:04,000 --> 01:00:07,320 Speaker 1: Me uncomfortable it's a long time for someone to make. 1281 01:00:07,400 --> 01:00:09,960 Speaker 1: You uncomfortable consistently. 1282 01:00:09,480 --> 01:00:12,280 Speaker 3: She'll pull him away to talk one. On one she touches, 1283 01:00:12,360 --> 01:00:15,560 Speaker 3: him regularly has little, inside JOKES so i just sit 1284 01:00:15,600 --> 01:00:18,479 Speaker 3: there like, an idiot makes silly voices, to him makes 1285 01:00:18,560 --> 01:00:21,840 Speaker 3: weird double entendre jokes. To him sometimes she'll be super nice, 1286 01:00:21,840 --> 01:00:23,880 Speaker 3: to me and sometimes she just straight up. IGNORES me 1287 01:00:24,200 --> 01:00:27,400 Speaker 3: i never know Which version, i'll GET so i always act, 1288 01:00:27,440 --> 01:00:30,880 Speaker 3: super friendly but. It's exhausting one of the LAST times i, 1289 01:00:30,880 --> 01:00:34,120 Speaker 3: saw her she was, bringing friendly but did take the opportunity, 1290 01:00:34,200 --> 01:00:37,760 Speaker 3: to say, you know before you and your boyfriend, started 1291 01:00:37,840 --> 01:00:40,920 Speaker 3: dating we talked every day about all kinds. Of things 1292 01:00:41,400 --> 01:00:44,440 Speaker 3: we were, best friends so now we don't talk as. 1293 01:00:44,520 --> 01:00:47,320 Speaker 3: Much anymore in, the beginning he seemed oblivious to how 1294 01:00:47,320 --> 01:00:51,160 Speaker 3: inappropriate she acts. TOWARDS him i pointed out several times 1295 01:00:51,440 --> 01:00:53,080 Speaker 3: and got to the POINT where i, told him if 1296 01:00:53,080 --> 01:00:55,960 Speaker 3: he doesn't shut down her, Weird touching i'm either walking 1297 01:00:56,000 --> 01:00:59,360 Speaker 3: away or Leaving because. I'm uncomfortable issues with her have 1298 01:00:59,480 --> 01:01:03,400 Speaker 3: literally been our only relationship drama the. Entire time we 1299 01:01:03,480 --> 01:01:06,840 Speaker 3: have never thought about anything, else since making. HIM aware 1300 01:01:06,920 --> 01:01:09,160 Speaker 3: a lot of times when she starts touching him randomly 1301 01:01:09,240 --> 01:01:12,080 Speaker 3: or trying to pull. Him away, he'll resist go, somewhere 1302 01:01:12,120 --> 01:01:14,360 Speaker 3: else whatever the case, may be but we seem to 1303 01:01:14,400 --> 01:01:16,360 Speaker 3: have an argument after each time we see. Each, other 1304 01:01:16,480 --> 01:01:18,720 Speaker 3: yesterday she and the brother received an invite from a 1305 01:01:18,800 --> 01:01:22,320 Speaker 3: mutual friend to see some. Live music she was, mostly, 1306 01:01:22,360 --> 01:01:25,640 Speaker 3: fine friendly, et cetera but she chose the seat, beside 1307 01:01:25,720 --> 01:01:27,520 Speaker 3: HIM so i had to sit a couple friends away 1308 01:01:27,560 --> 01:01:30,440 Speaker 3: from him and was wiping, his face touching his face 1309 01:01:30,480 --> 01:01:33,320 Speaker 3: where he missed, his spot shaving weird stuff. Like that 1310 01:01:33,520 --> 01:01:35,720 Speaker 3: at ONE point i just walked away and chatted with 1311 01:01:35,840 --> 01:01:38,640 Speaker 3: mutual friends after. WE left i expressed to my BOYFRIEND 1312 01:01:38,680 --> 01:01:40,480 Speaker 3: that I feel i can't talk to him about my 1313 01:01:40,560 --> 01:01:43,439 Speaker 3: concerns with her because he gets so frustrated and says 1314 01:01:43,440 --> 01:01:45,600 Speaker 3: she's always been. That way they've known each other for, 1315 01:01:45,640 --> 01:01:49,240 Speaker 3: five years she'll be his sister. Soon whatever he's doing 1316 01:01:49,280 --> 01:01:50,960 Speaker 3: his best to keep her, in check but she does 1317 01:01:50,960 --> 01:01:53,360 Speaker 3: seem to come out of nowhere with her touching and 1318 01:01:53,400 --> 01:01:56,400 Speaker 3: her snide comments to me that maybe only another woman 1319 01:01:56,480 --> 01:01:59,480 Speaker 3: could understand the Rudeness behind it turned into a loud 1320 01:01:59,560 --> 01:02:02,760 Speaker 3: fight the likes of which we've. Never had he's super. 1321 01:02:02,840 --> 01:02:06,160 Speaker 3: Apologetic today he made a hurtful comment in the heat of, 1322 01:02:06,160 --> 01:02:07,920 Speaker 3: the Moment and I'M sure i did to at a 1323 01:02:07,920 --> 01:02:10,880 Speaker 3: pure frustration with. This SITUATION though i don't. Like her 1324 01:02:11,040 --> 01:02:13,000 Speaker 3: knowing that we'll both hopefully be part of the, FAMILY 1325 01:02:13,040 --> 01:02:15,320 Speaker 3: soon i know we need to sort out. These issues 1326 01:02:15,560 --> 01:02:18,120 Speaker 3: how do we go about? Doing this i've thought about 1327 01:02:18,160 --> 01:02:20,880 Speaker 3: going out for drinks with her and explaining my situation 1328 01:02:21,040 --> 01:02:22,880 Speaker 3: so she can't play dumb to how she makes. Me 1329 01:02:22,920 --> 01:02:26,000 Speaker 3: uncomfortable he thinks he should talk to, her solo but 1330 01:02:26,080 --> 01:02:28,240 Speaker 3: that FEELS like i can't handle my own issues and 1331 01:02:28,240 --> 01:02:31,040 Speaker 3: would create more weirdness between the two. OF us i 1332 01:02:31,120 --> 01:02:34,200 Speaker 3: absolutely love and want to marry him and really want 1333 01:02:34,240 --> 01:02:37,520 Speaker 3: this to resolve so our relationship continue. To. Flourish edit 1334 01:02:37,720 --> 01:02:41,000 Speaker 3: my last relationship before this one, was awful, cheated on 1335 01:02:41,240 --> 01:02:44,480 Speaker 3: verbal and. Physically mistreated i'm incredibly grateful to have the 1336 01:02:44,480 --> 01:02:46,120 Speaker 3: GOOD man i. Have now it took me a lot 1337 01:02:46,120 --> 01:02:48,320 Speaker 3: of work to GET where i, am emotionally to be able, 1338 01:02:48,360 --> 01:02:52,320 Speaker 3: to trust control my anger, and. Arguments etc just because 1339 01:02:52,360 --> 01:02:54,280 Speaker 3: of the last one that was so awful and change. 1340 01:02:54,280 --> 01:02:56,640 Speaker 3: MY personality i don't want to see bits of the old, 1341 01:02:56,680 --> 01:02:59,080 Speaker 3: me ANYMORE but i see little bits when we argue, 1342 01:02:59,360 --> 01:03:01,960 Speaker 3: about HER and i hate that but there is. AN update, 1343 01:03:02,200 --> 01:03:04,480 Speaker 3: i mean it's good that, you're aware but your partner 1344 01:03:04,560 --> 01:03:07,040 Speaker 3: is being disrespectful and he needs to shut it down 1345 01:03:07,080 --> 01:03:07,400 Speaker 3: a little. 1346 01:03:07,400 --> 01:03:11,080 Speaker 1: BIT more i want to know where the Talk between 1347 01:03:11,520 --> 01:03:13,800 Speaker 1: ope's partner and her partner's. 1348 01:03:14,000 --> 01:03:17,040 Speaker 3: Brother, is YEAH if i were, The brother i'd, be 1349 01:03:17,040 --> 01:03:17,919 Speaker 3: going that's. 1350 01:03:18,000 --> 01:03:22,640 Speaker 1: Kinda weird your future wife is like touching on me. 1351 01:03:22,720 --> 01:03:25,000 Speaker 1: And stuff she's trying to do a weird touch. WITH 1352 01:03:25,040 --> 01:03:26,320 Speaker 1: me i. Don't know it's going on. 1353 01:03:26,360 --> 01:03:28,560 Speaker 3: Weird touch things she does. With you she still have, Me, too. 1354 01:03:28,520 --> 01:03:30,880 Speaker 1: Yeah you know that part how she does when she, 1355 01:03:30,960 --> 01:03:34,240 Speaker 1: touches you because you're. Her partner she's touching me. Like. 1356 01:03:34,280 --> 01:03:37,000 Speaker 3: That, brother yeah have. A conversation i think having a 1357 01:03:37,040 --> 01:03:41,120 Speaker 3: conversation with the girl probably. HOPEFULLY helpful i. 1358 01:03:41,120 --> 01:03:43,360 Speaker 1: DON'T know i really don't think that that's gonna, get 1359 01:03:43,400 --> 01:03:46,200 Speaker 1: anywhere because if it sounds like she'll, just deny she'll just, 1360 01:03:46,200 --> 01:03:47,320 Speaker 1: BE like i don't. 1361 01:03:47,080 --> 01:03:50,280 Speaker 3: Know what you're. Talking about that's so weird that you're. 1362 01:03:50,520 --> 01:03:54,400 Speaker 3: SO insecure i. Don't understand let's find out what this 1363 01:03:54,520 --> 01:03:56,760 Speaker 3: update has. In store this is my update from my 1364 01:03:56,840 --> 01:04:01,440 Speaker 3: Last post. FRIDAY evening i to a female. Family gathering 1365 01:04:01,560 --> 01:04:04,400 Speaker 3: future sister in law. Was there she avoided me the. 1366 01:04:04,680 --> 01:04:07,040 Speaker 3: ENTIRE time i want nothing more than to get past 1367 01:04:07,040 --> 01:04:09,080 Speaker 3: this and, move on but was sort of following her 1368 01:04:09,160 --> 01:04:11,680 Speaker 3: lead and left. Her alone she texted asking if we. 1369 01:04:11,680 --> 01:04:14,320 Speaker 3: COULD talk i. Said sure, she said my boyfriend told. 1370 01:04:14,360 --> 01:04:16,840 Speaker 3: HIS brother i wrote. The text he never. Said that 1371 01:04:17,040 --> 01:04:19,439 Speaker 3: she clearly didn't believe me and kept trying to find 1372 01:04:19,480 --> 01:04:21,440 Speaker 3: ways to. PROVE that i wrote IT that i said 1373 01:04:21,560 --> 01:04:23,520 Speaker 3: no more family gatherings and we don't want to go 1374 01:04:23,560 --> 01:04:26,120 Speaker 3: to their WEDDINGS because i, hate her that all hate 1375 01:04:26,120 --> 01:04:28,040 Speaker 3: any future child. They have because it came out. OF 1376 01:04:28,040 --> 01:04:31,520 Speaker 3: her i was absolutely SHOCKED because i never said any, 1377 01:04:31,520 --> 01:04:33,440 Speaker 3: of THIS and i know my boyfriend never said any 1378 01:04:33,480 --> 01:04:36,120 Speaker 3: of these. Things either so his brother is making up 1379 01:04:36,160 --> 01:04:39,840 Speaker 3: these cruel lies for some. Unknown reason it's either her or. 1380 01:04:39,880 --> 01:04:43,000 Speaker 3: The brother if, it's her it's because she's jealous AND 1381 01:04:43,040 --> 01:04:45,480 Speaker 3: she's i, don't know trying to like ruin, this relationship 1382 01:04:45,760 --> 01:04:50,040 Speaker 3: or it's the brother and he WANTS to i don't know. 1383 01:04:50,320 --> 01:04:52,880 Speaker 1: See exactly that's why, IT'S like i can't find a 1384 01:04:53,000 --> 01:04:54,160 Speaker 1: single reason why he would. 1385 01:04:54,200 --> 01:04:56,520 Speaker 3: Do that she said how awful her, family is and 1386 01:04:56,560 --> 01:04:58,520 Speaker 3: all she wanted was to make me, feel included And 1387 01:04:58,560 --> 01:05:01,040 Speaker 3: now i've stapped her on. The back she demanded. AN 1388 01:05:01,040 --> 01:05:04,360 Speaker 3: apology i refused and told her do have a, good night. 1389 01:05:04,720 --> 01:05:06,520 Speaker 3: And left that's how you. Do it if you're talking, 1390 01:05:06,520 --> 01:05:07,080 Speaker 3: to crazy you. 1391 01:05:07,160 --> 01:05:10,000 Speaker 1: Just, leave yeah you can't argue. With crazy you just 1392 01:05:10,000 --> 01:05:12,439 Speaker 1: got to say uh, huh okay bye bye now. 1393 01:05:12,640 --> 01:05:15,240 Speaker 3: Bye, bye sunday we go to the parents' house. For 1394 01:05:15,240 --> 01:05:19,600 Speaker 3: dinner all of us. Were there things were. Fairly standoffish at, 1395 01:05:19,600 --> 01:05:21,800 Speaker 3: ONE point i was inside with future sister in law 1396 01:05:21,840 --> 01:05:24,600 Speaker 3: and the dad making light. Small talk their mom grabs 1397 01:05:24,640 --> 01:05:26,240 Speaker 3: me and future sister in law to speak in a. 1398 01:05:26,240 --> 01:05:28,760 Speaker 3: Back room she's a few, drinks in gets all teary 1399 01:05:28,760 --> 01:05:32,160 Speaker 3: eyed that her boys, are intourmoil Basically saying i'm the 1400 01:05:32,280 --> 01:05:34,160 Speaker 3: root of all, the ISSUES so i need to get 1401 01:05:34,160 --> 01:05:36,200 Speaker 3: over it because she's not having her family to wind to. 1402 01:05:36,240 --> 01:05:39,040 Speaker 3: Pull it my boyfriend loves both of, us equally HA 1403 01:05:39,600 --> 01:05:41,560 Speaker 3: and i need to deal with that because they've known 1404 01:05:41,640 --> 01:05:44,280 Speaker 3: each other, five years far longer than we've been together 1405 01:05:44,400 --> 01:05:46,760 Speaker 3: one and a. Half, years wait the girl is Saying 1406 01:05:46,800 --> 01:05:50,160 Speaker 3: that opie's boyfriend loves both of. THEM equally i. 1407 01:05:50,120 --> 01:05:54,080 Speaker 1: Think that Was what opie's. Mom said ohpie's boyfriend's mom is, 1408 01:05:54,120 --> 01:05:58,360 Speaker 1: being like. It's fine he loves you and his brother's 1409 01:05:58,400 --> 01:06:01,000 Speaker 1: fiance the, same amount. 1410 01:06:00,440 --> 01:06:00,920 Speaker 3: But she's the. 1411 01:06:01,160 --> 01:06:04,480 Speaker 1: Normal thing we should say it's normal and. 1412 01:06:04,640 --> 01:06:08,360 Speaker 3: Not weird that touching, is normal that is not a. 1413 01:06:08,400 --> 01:06:10,800 Speaker 1: Weird touch you take that back. 1414 01:06:11,160 --> 01:06:14,200 Speaker 3: RIGHT now i can't come in and try to dissolve 1415 01:06:14,280 --> 01:06:17,640 Speaker 3: all female relationships in. His life she left and Future 1416 01:06:17,680 --> 01:06:20,240 Speaker 3: SISTER alana i were, talking CALMLY and i was expressing 1417 01:06:20,240 --> 01:06:23,080 Speaker 3: clearly that there was miscommunication between the boys that seemed 1418 01:06:23,120 --> 01:06:26,040 Speaker 3: to be ramping. This up. She agreed, SHE'S. 1419 01:06:25,880 --> 01:06:29,200 Speaker 1: Like i don't know, what's happening but things are getting a. 1420 01:06:29,240 --> 01:06:32,400 Speaker 3: Lot weirder then we hear screaming from the, living room, 1421 01:06:32,480 --> 01:06:34,640 Speaker 3: glass breaking so we go out there and that's when 1422 01:06:34,680 --> 01:06:37,800 Speaker 3: all the real. Drama starts the brother kept pointing at 1423 01:06:37,800 --> 01:06:40,880 Speaker 3: me with a legit unaliving look in, his eyes calling 1424 01:06:40,880 --> 01:06:43,800 Speaker 3: me a manipulative bee and a, psychotic bully all kinds. 1425 01:06:43,840 --> 01:06:46,600 Speaker 3: Of things it was a, screaming match everyone telling each 1426 01:06:46,600 --> 01:06:48,400 Speaker 3: other to, f off and his, mom's, like well you 1427 01:06:48,560 --> 01:06:51,000 Speaker 3: started all of this and now you have nothing to say. 1428 01:06:51,320 --> 01:06:54,840 Speaker 3: Defend herself his, brother's like she's playing. A game she 1429 01:06:55,000 --> 01:06:57,840 Speaker 3: manipulated my brother away from, the family so she's sitting 1430 01:06:57,840 --> 01:07:02,400 Speaker 3: there all pleased, with herself the effing dumb. B, yikes. 1431 01:07:01,760 --> 01:07:04,000 Speaker 1: HEY brother i just want to let you know when 1432 01:07:04,000 --> 01:07:06,880 Speaker 1: you berate and curse at a woman as, a man 1433 01:07:07,240 --> 01:07:10,600 Speaker 1: he loves a lot of credibility. Right there doesn't. 1434 01:07:10,320 --> 01:07:12,800 Speaker 3: Look good, for. You buddy the mom was trying and 1435 01:07:12,800 --> 01:07:15,600 Speaker 3: failing to moderate this because the brother. Kept screaming he 1436 01:07:15,640 --> 01:07:17,920 Speaker 3: was telling her to go, ever self saying any awful 1437 01:07:17,920 --> 01:07:20,680 Speaker 3: thing he could think of. About me he came incredibly 1438 01:07:20,720 --> 01:07:22,320 Speaker 3: close to. MY face i don't know if he wanted 1439 01:07:22,360 --> 01:07:24,760 Speaker 3: to hit me or. Intimidate me my boyfriend pushed him 1440 01:07:24,760 --> 01:07:27,520 Speaker 3: away and yelled. At him the brother kept making these 1441 01:07:27,520 --> 01:07:29,280 Speaker 3: moves like he was going to run. At me the 1442 01:07:29,400 --> 01:07:31,680 Speaker 3: future sister law kept holding him back or telling him 1443 01:07:31,680 --> 01:07:31,920 Speaker 3: to take. 1444 01:07:31,920 --> 01:07:35,360 Speaker 1: A walk he. Was furious i'm starting to understand now 1445 01:07:35,520 --> 01:07:40,320 Speaker 1: why his fiance is Flirting with, op's man because she's 1446 01:07:40,640 --> 01:07:42,919 Speaker 1: probably looking at, him like, Oh, YEAH no i did 1447 01:07:42,920 --> 01:07:46,280 Speaker 1: pick the. WRONG brother i picked the beta who tries 1448 01:07:46,320 --> 01:07:50,520 Speaker 1: to like pump fake like. A woman he's Arguing with mom. 1449 01:07:50,360 --> 01:07:52,320 Speaker 3: KEPT saying i need to grow up and deal with. 1450 01:07:52,320 --> 01:07:55,040 Speaker 3: My insecurities kept saying that over. And over at ONE 1451 01:07:55,040 --> 01:07:57,240 Speaker 3: point i asked her to stop calling, me insecure and 1452 01:07:57,240 --> 01:07:59,120 Speaker 3: she said it was the FIRST time i, defended myself 1453 01:07:59,160 --> 01:08:00,880 Speaker 3: and now she respects me a little bit MORE because 1454 01:08:00,920 --> 01:08:01,440 Speaker 3: i stood up. 1455 01:08:01,440 --> 01:08:05,360 Speaker 1: For myself wasn't this whole thing her defending herself that's? 1456 01:08:05,400 --> 01:08:08,200 Speaker 3: So, Funny oh, he's, like hey stop and the, mom's, 1457 01:08:08,240 --> 01:08:09,160 Speaker 3: LIKE oh. 1458 01:08:08,800 --> 01:08:11,080 Speaker 1: I didn't know you had game, LIKE. That opi but 1459 01:08:11,240 --> 01:08:13,840 Speaker 1: on a, real LEVEL am i wrong or isn't all 1460 01:08:13,840 --> 01:08:16,200 Speaker 1: of this coming from her trying to? Defend herself it. 1461 01:08:16,240 --> 01:08:18,120 Speaker 3: Absolutely is she, was, LIKE hey i don't like, this 1462 01:08:18,120 --> 01:08:20,280 Speaker 3: attitude and now the mom's like that wasn't. Good enough 1463 01:08:20,280 --> 01:08:23,040 Speaker 3: this went on for, two hours AND because i don't 1464 01:08:23,040 --> 01:08:25,600 Speaker 3: deal with issues by screaming and, NAME callings i. Was 1465 01:08:25,720 --> 01:08:28,040 Speaker 3: frozen my boyfriend was saying a lot to try and 1466 01:08:28,040 --> 01:08:30,320 Speaker 3: defend me that they were his concerns and didn't come 1467 01:08:30,360 --> 01:08:32,880 Speaker 3: out of, thin air which riled everyone. Up more it 1468 01:08:32,920 --> 01:08:35,599 Speaker 3: was absolute chaotic Madness that i've never been a part. 1469 01:08:35,640 --> 01:08:37,760 Speaker 3: Of before at, the end their mom tried to laugh 1470 01:08:37,800 --> 01:08:40,519 Speaker 3: off the. Entire thing, she's, like wow that was. A, 1471 01:08:40,560 --> 01:08:43,680 Speaker 3: lot wow we really get up to crazy Things on. 1472 01:08:43,760 --> 01:08:45,200 Speaker 3: Monday night this's. 1473 01:08:45,000 --> 01:08:47,519 Speaker 1: Gonna be such a. Funny story at my book Club, 1474 01:08:47,600 --> 01:08:51,320 Speaker 1: THIS thursday i swear girls are gonna. Love this they're 1475 01:08:51,360 --> 01:08:54,240 Speaker 1: just gonna. Thank you guys are the. Biggest characters they're. 1476 01:08:54,080 --> 01:08:56,559 Speaker 3: Gonna go on bananas at. The end their mom tried 1477 01:08:56,560 --> 01:08:58,240 Speaker 3: to laugh with the. ENTIRE thing i was in total 1478 01:08:58,240 --> 01:09:00,240 Speaker 3: Shock because i've tried so hard to be kind and 1479 01:09:00,280 --> 01:09:03,240 Speaker 3: respectful to the fam and always had a, great relationship 1480 01:09:03,320 --> 01:09:06,200 Speaker 3: especially with. Their MOM so i was. Taken aback my 1481 01:09:06,280 --> 01:09:09,000 Speaker 3: boyfriend spoke to his mom the next day canceled all 1482 01:09:09,080 --> 01:09:11,960 Speaker 3: future plans with, the FAM saying i, was attacked it was. 1483 01:09:12,040 --> 01:09:15,280 Speaker 3: Uncalled for he was furious his brother has legit issues 1484 01:09:15,280 --> 01:09:18,920 Speaker 3: and the mom makes excuses after excuse for his absolutely. 1485 01:09:19,040 --> 01:09:22,599 Speaker 3: Terrifying behavior but you guys don't have any excuse for 1486 01:09:22,640 --> 01:09:25,200 Speaker 3: not listening to full episodes with stories just. Like this 1487 01:09:25,760 --> 01:09:29,160 Speaker 3: just Go, To Spotify, apple podcasts or your favorite podcast 1488 01:09:29,200 --> 01:09:29,479 Speaker 3: app in. 1489 01:09:29,520 --> 01:09:31,639 Speaker 1: Search, up okay, stort time do THAT and i see 1490 01:09:31,640 --> 01:09:33,439 Speaker 1: you there not. Doing it, come on. 1491 01:09:33,640 --> 01:09:36,120 Speaker 3: Be better but there is, a little a teensy little. Bit, 1492 01:09:36,200 --> 01:09:37,519 Speaker 3: Left YEAH and, i. 1493 01:09:37,479 --> 01:09:40,120 Speaker 1: MEAN like i think the path that we've ended up 1494 01:09:40,160 --> 01:09:41,800 Speaker 1: on is the. Right ONE and i really hope that. 1495 01:09:41,720 --> 01:09:44,320 Speaker 3: The sister in law leaves or the future maybe no 1496 01:09:44,400 --> 01:09:45,160 Speaker 3: longer to be sister. 1497 01:09:45,200 --> 01:09:47,599 Speaker 1: In law it sounds like that the sister in laws and, 1498 01:09:47,720 --> 01:09:49,080 Speaker 1: the BROTHERS. 1499 01:09:48,680 --> 01:09:50,599 Speaker 3: But i think the sister in law is realizing that 1500 01:09:50,640 --> 01:09:52,479 Speaker 3: her brother in law sucks, a lot and so SHE'S, 1501 01:09:52,520 --> 01:09:53,000 Speaker 3: Like whoa. 1502 01:09:53,200 --> 01:09:55,599 Speaker 1: She's trying to get herself out. OF it i think 1503 01:09:55,680 --> 01:09:57,960 Speaker 1: no future family events sounds like a. 1504 01:09:58,080 --> 01:10:01,360 Speaker 3: Great PLAN good, I yah but there is a little 1505 01:10:01,360 --> 01:10:03,879 Speaker 3: bit more to. THIS story i seriously don't feel comfortable 1506 01:10:03,880 --> 01:10:06,800 Speaker 3: even being near his. Brother again he sounds so close 1507 01:10:06,840 --> 01:10:09,400 Speaker 3: to really, losing It and i'm actually concerned for my 1508 01:10:09,439 --> 01:10:12,559 Speaker 3: safety at. THIS point i thank GOD my bf has 1509 01:10:12,640 --> 01:10:15,880 Speaker 3: the complete, opposite PERSONALITY but i have no clue how 1510 01:10:15,960 --> 01:10:17,800 Speaker 3: to move forward. From this as MUCH as i never 1511 01:10:17,840 --> 01:10:19,960 Speaker 3: wanted to see the, BROTHER again i know that's. Not 1512 01:10:20,000 --> 01:10:21,920 Speaker 3: possible i'd be willing to speak to him if he 1513 01:10:21,960 --> 01:10:23,960 Speaker 3: could act more normal, and CALM but i don't even 1514 01:10:24,000 --> 01:10:26,880 Speaker 3: know if he's capable of that help and comment one 1515 01:10:27,360 --> 01:10:31,640 Speaker 3: says sounds like brother is projecting. Here absolutely maybe he 1516 01:10:31,720 --> 01:10:34,000 Speaker 3: too thought she was highly inappropriate with, your boyfriend and 1517 01:10:34,040 --> 01:10:35,920 Speaker 3: now it's been brought, to light he has to face 1518 01:10:35,960 --> 01:10:38,200 Speaker 3: his feelings and is taking it out on the. Wrong, 1519 01:10:38,240 --> 01:10:40,679 Speaker 3: people also boyfriend's mom sounds like an e. Fing idiot 1520 01:10:40,920 --> 01:10:43,160 Speaker 3: doesn't matter if she's known him for. Thirty years she was. 1521 01:10:43,240 --> 01:10:47,400 Speaker 3: Incredibly inappropriate end. Of discussion you're. His partner doesn't make 1522 01:10:47,439 --> 01:10:49,880 Speaker 3: you insecure because you have boundaries and don't think it's 1523 01:10:49,920 --> 01:10:52,400 Speaker 3: appropriate for someone to act like your. Partner's girlfriend the 1524 01:10:52,439 --> 01:10:54,840 Speaker 3: only way forward is for him to go complete no 1525 01:10:54,960 --> 01:10:55,559 Speaker 3: contact with. 1526 01:10:55,680 --> 01:10:59,439 Speaker 1: His family that's, not true but it's certainly one of 1527 01:10:59,479 --> 01:11:02,400 Speaker 1: the simplest ways to. MOVE forward i think there's a 1528 01:11:02,400 --> 01:11:05,280 Speaker 1: path to get back to. SOMETHING there i think it 1529 01:11:05,360 --> 01:11:09,920 Speaker 1: was dead on where it's like now the, brothers realized 1530 01:11:10,040 --> 01:11:13,519 Speaker 1: like it's been, called out and, he's, like yeah my 1531 01:11:13,600 --> 01:11:17,040 Speaker 1: fiance is flirting with my brother and that's way too 1532 01:11:17,120 --> 01:11:19,479 Speaker 1: hard for me to. Come apprehend So instead i'm just 1533 01:11:19,479 --> 01:11:22,639 Speaker 1: gonna get mad at. The, woman oh, he says. 1534 01:11:22,680 --> 01:11:24,719 Speaker 3: Thank you THAT'S how i. Feel too there are sibling 1535 01:11:24,720 --> 01:11:27,320 Speaker 3: relationships and romantic and the lines should. Not blur the 1536 01:11:27,360 --> 01:11:29,640 Speaker 3: fact that everyone is blind to it and making me 1537 01:11:29,760 --> 01:11:33,880 Speaker 3: Feel like i'm crazy. Is unsettling. Unfortunate timing today is my. 1538 01:11:33,960 --> 01:11:36,679 Speaker 3: B day his mom dropped off a card in a present. 1539 01:11:36,680 --> 01:11:38,960 Speaker 3: For me no interest in the present almost feels like 1540 01:11:38,960 --> 01:11:41,840 Speaker 3: an attempt to buy, me off so. To speak absolutely 1541 01:11:41,840 --> 01:11:43,479 Speaker 3: it's an, apology present and don't. 1542 01:11:43,520 --> 01:11:47,000 Speaker 1: Take it hopefully they had your birthday present picked. Out already, they're, 1543 01:11:47,040 --> 01:11:49,599 Speaker 1: like ooh not only did we get into, This fight 1544 01:11:49,800 --> 01:11:50,479 Speaker 1: oh we don't have a. 1545 01:11:50,479 --> 01:11:53,880 Speaker 3: Birthday PRESENT now i have to get. A RIGIMVED but 1546 01:11:53,920 --> 01:11:56,640 Speaker 3: i opened the card out. Of curiosity we hope to 1547 01:11:56,680 --> 01:11:59,000 Speaker 3: have better memories with you in. The future this is 1548 01:11:59,040 --> 01:12:02,080 Speaker 3: after spending nearly ever weekend and holiday at, their home 1549 01:12:02,479 --> 01:12:04,640 Speaker 3: missing out on time with my, own family doing my 1550 01:12:04,680 --> 01:12:06,880 Speaker 3: best to forge the best RELATIONSHIP possible i can with. 1551 01:12:06,920 --> 01:12:09,880 Speaker 3: His parents what a punt in. The nuts and that 1552 01:12:10,120 --> 01:12:13,680 Speaker 3: is the end of. That story boy, OH boy, i, 1553 01:12:13,720 --> 01:12:15,639 Speaker 3: mean like definitely you should get away from. These family 1554 01:12:15,720 --> 01:12:17,839 Speaker 3: you don't have to ever see. Them again, LOW contact, 1555 01:12:17,880 --> 01:12:20,679 Speaker 3: i think or no, contact maybe but that's on your partner. 1556 01:12:20,720 --> 01:12:23,160 Speaker 1: TO decide i think the biggest thing needs to BE 1557 01:12:23,479 --> 01:12:26,080 Speaker 1: which i don't think it'll, Happen NOW but i was 1558 01:12:26,200 --> 01:12:29,759 Speaker 1: wondering why the brother on brother conversation was, not happening 1559 01:12:30,040 --> 01:12:32,640 Speaker 1: and it feels like they probably have a very contentious 1560 01:12:32,680 --> 01:12:34,599 Speaker 1: history or. Relationship there if. 1561 01:12:34,479 --> 01:12:37,120 Speaker 3: This was how, we reacted there's got to be something, 1562 01:12:37,160 --> 01:12:39,799 Speaker 3: Before this like this can't just have been the first thing. 1563 01:12:39,680 --> 01:12:43,000 Speaker 1: It's, very unlikely but you know what, is likely that 1564 01:12:43,120 --> 01:12:43,920 Speaker 1: this is the end of. 1565 01:12:43,960 --> 01:12:44,519 Speaker 3: The story