WEBVTT - #165 - Brad Arnold of 3 Doors Down 0:00:00.800 --> 0:00:03.320 All right, welcome to episode one sixty five of the 0:00:03.320 --> 0:00:05.640 Bobby Cast. This is an exciting one for me because 0:00:05.640 --> 0:00:08.399 it's Brad Arnold from Three Doors Down. Glad to have you, man, 0:00:08.480 --> 0:00:10.160 Thank you for having men. I'm glad to be here. 0:00:10.440 --> 0:00:12.879 I'm such a fan of Three Doors Down because how 0:00:12.880 --> 0:00:15.760 old a guy are you? I am about the same 0:00:15.800 --> 0:00:20.120 age you were, So you were were the same age basically, right. 0:00:20.280 --> 0:00:22.680 You were so big and I was like an idiot 0:00:22.720 --> 0:00:25.000 on the radio and Hot Springs, Arkansas, and you were 0:00:25.040 --> 0:00:27.960 like all over the world. I felt so so small now, man. 0:00:29.200 --> 0:00:31.960 We did start young. I started touring when I was twenty. 0:00:32.360 --> 0:00:36.279 I just turned twenty one, and it was you know, 0:00:36.360 --> 0:00:39.479 they say like youth is wasted on the young. So 0:00:39.520 --> 0:00:41.960 it's touring because I think I would have enjoyed it 0:00:42.040 --> 0:00:45.559 so much more now in the mindset that I'm in 0:00:46.280 --> 0:00:48.360 in my life and just the place that I am, 0:00:49.000 --> 0:00:51.279 than I did then, because you know, you get out 0:00:51.280 --> 0:00:54.040 there and you're young and you start touring, and it's 0:00:54.160 --> 0:00:56.880 that's a lot to handle hand a twenty one year old, 0:00:56.920 --> 0:00:59.760 you know, and it's basically you know, just to here's 0:00:59.800 --> 0:01:02.400 the I used to tell people, it's like having a backstage, 0:01:02.440 --> 0:01:06.280 passed to life and eat out there and and I 0:01:06.360 --> 0:01:08.119 was an idiot, and I didn't you know, I didn't 0:01:08.120 --> 0:01:09.920 do a lot of things, but I was just I 0:01:09.959 --> 0:01:11.760 guess my main thing that I got out, I just 0:01:11.760 --> 0:01:13.959 got out and drank so much and things like that. 0:01:14.080 --> 0:01:18.679 And and um, I've been without alcohol, been alcohol free 0:01:18.680 --> 0:01:21.000 for a little over three years. As I wish, man 0:01:21.040 --> 0:01:24.039 I could just take that and apply to my whole career, 0:01:24.080 --> 0:01:26.440 I would have enjoyed it so much more. I think 0:01:26.480 --> 0:01:29.240 I saw you guys probably five times, you know, all 0:01:29.240 --> 0:01:32.600 through my years. Um, And so for me, I think 0:01:32.600 --> 0:01:34.039 the last time I saw you guys was you guys 0:01:34.080 --> 0:01:37.080 in Fuel. You guys were playing together. But I've bet 0:01:37.080 --> 0:01:38.520 a lot of those bands, did you guys kind of 0:01:38.560 --> 0:01:40.360 cross paths and tool randomly with a lot of those 0:01:40.360 --> 0:01:42.759 guys kind of in that same class and when when 0:01:43.200 --> 0:01:46.680 pop was rock, So how did those tours often come together? 0:01:46.760 --> 0:01:48.520 Did you did you switch places sometimes? Like who had 0:01:48.560 --> 0:01:51.160 the bigger song would kind of lead the tour? Well, 0:01:51.160 --> 0:01:54.160 we um, by the grace of God, our first record 0:01:54.360 --> 0:01:57.840 like done really good and we started touring together with 0:01:57.960 --> 0:02:01.760 Nickelback was used to be uh their second record kind 0:02:01.760 --> 0:02:03.920 of took off for them, and so that was the 0:02:03.960 --> 0:02:06.480 first tour that we would kind of they opened for 0:02:06.600 --> 0:02:09.359 us for and a couple first couple of years that 0:02:09.400 --> 0:02:12.560 both of us were out and uh, and then their 0:02:12.600 --> 0:02:14.760 second record took off, and we've done a tour together 0:02:15.200 --> 0:02:17.080 to where we kind of flip flop back and forth 0:02:17.280 --> 0:02:20.680 playing and then we had we went our separate ways. 0:02:20.960 --> 0:02:24.280 So like not good blood, not good blood. So what's 0:02:24.280 --> 0:02:26.320 the deal with Nickelback? Why does anybody hate on Nickelback? 0:02:26.560 --> 0:02:28.720 I don't know, why do you think people hate on Nickelback? 0:02:30.639 --> 0:02:32.360 And I wouldn't have went there for you, you know, 0:02:32.639 --> 0:02:34.680 I didn't know you guys tore with Nickelback a lot. 0:02:35.120 --> 0:02:38.160 There's been a lot of times were we both started 0:02:38.200 --> 0:02:41.040 on two already Eagles, you know, like the nineteen eighties 0:02:41.080 --> 0:02:44.519 Eagle buses, and one of them was always broke. So 0:02:44.600 --> 0:02:46.280 there was a lot of times where there was I mean, 0:02:46.320 --> 0:02:48.400 you know, in those days, all band and crew on 0:02:48.400 --> 0:02:51.400 one bus. On that tour, there was both bands and 0:02:51.480 --> 0:02:53.919 broth crews on one bus for a lot of times 0:02:53.960 --> 0:02:56.160 because one of the bus was always tore, tore up, 0:02:56.200 --> 0:02:57.880 and and it would break down and we just had 0:02:57.880 --> 0:02:59.760 to get to the next gig, so everybody's just kid 0:02:59.840 --> 0:03:02.720 on one. Which if a bus only holds twelve, now 0:03:02.720 --> 0:03:07.400 a bustle whole twelve legitimately like my bustle whole twelve legitimately, 0:03:07.680 --> 0:03:09.480 So that means there's enough bunks and legally you can 0:03:09.480 --> 0:03:11.000 have twelve. This sounds like there's more than twelve people 0:03:11.040 --> 0:03:13.320 on that bus, but there a lot of people some 0:03:13.360 --> 0:03:16.160 Mondey would always give me a bunk and uh so 0:03:16.160 --> 0:03:19.000 so the two singers could sleep or whatever. Um, but 0:03:19.240 --> 0:03:23.800 uh yeah, we just kind of we Our old drummer 0:03:23.880 --> 0:03:25.880 is now their drummer. Daniel used to be our drummer 0:03:25.919 --> 0:03:27.840 for quite a while, and uh and and he's a 0:03:27.840 --> 0:03:31.240 great drummer, you know. And um, it was just I 0:03:31.240 --> 0:03:34.760 don't really know honestly how it got to be Bad Blood, 0:03:34.800 --> 0:03:38.120 but I think kind of it was a thing in 0:03:38.200 --> 0:03:39.560 the ward show. And I don't even remember what a 0:03:39.560 --> 0:03:41.320 ward show it was. And it was even between the 0:03:41.360 --> 0:03:44.640 two bands. It was between some crew guys or something. 0:03:44.720 --> 0:03:47.600 But I don't know why people I don't know why 0:03:47.640 --> 0:03:49.400 people hate on him so much. But well, if you 0:03:49.400 --> 0:03:51.280 don't like him, I now hate Nickelback to Mike, let 0:03:51.320 --> 0:03:53.120 him know, let him know I'm tired of defending them. 0:03:53.120 --> 0:03:54.640 I don't like him anymore. But I don't like them. 0:03:55.200 --> 0:03:57.320 I don't I don't dislike you know, honestly, I hadn't 0:03:57.360 --> 0:03:58.960 talked to him in a really long time. Here's the 0:03:58.960 --> 0:04:00.760 story one of my friends told me, because they went 0:04:00.800 --> 0:04:04.240 to Canada and they're a country band, and they said 0:04:04.320 --> 0:04:07.960 they were playing with Nickelback, and I guess those guys 0:04:07.960 --> 0:04:10.120 are really rich. I guess Chad Corger is really rich. 0:04:10.360 --> 0:04:12.600 And apparently went on a yacht. This is all hearsay, right, 0:04:12.600 --> 0:04:14.000 They went out a yacht and they were throwing pillows 0:04:14.080 --> 0:04:16.520 into the air and shooting them with guns, and that 0:04:16.640 --> 0:04:18.440 he was just wild and they just had guns and 0:04:19.080 --> 0:04:22.160 still like partying on boats and off the coast. And 0:04:22.200 --> 0:04:24.440 I was like, man, Nickelback is still going hard right now. 0:04:24.480 --> 0:04:27.040 I guess so, man. I've heard some stories about Ted 0:04:27.240 --> 0:04:29.320 doing some pretty outland just things, but it was mainly 0:04:29.360 --> 0:04:32.360 like throwing money around and and stuff like that. And 0:04:32.880 --> 0:04:36.599 for me personally, I mean, I come from a good 0:04:36.640 --> 0:04:40.400 family of saving kids. But my mom there taught me 0:04:40.440 --> 0:04:44.720 to the value of money, and I still remember the 0:04:44.800 --> 0:04:47.320 value of money, and I just think about it, you know, 0:04:47.640 --> 0:04:49.479 I guess probably I was probably like nineteen or twenty, 0:04:49.480 --> 0:04:51.240 and you guys, in my mind really blew up and 0:04:51.760 --> 0:04:54.000 that rock sound became the pop sound because I was 0:04:54.040 --> 0:04:56.680 working on pop radio and every song you guys are 0:04:56.760 --> 0:04:59.640 put out would just be massive. And when you're in 0:04:59.680 --> 0:05:01.400 the mid and I can feel this a bit with 0:05:01.440 --> 0:05:04.440 me now, meaning I'll work so hard, I really don't 0:05:04.960 --> 0:05:07.360 see the cool things that are happening around me at 0:05:07.360 --> 0:05:09.479 the level I should really appreciate and see them. I wonder, 0:05:09.520 --> 0:05:12.360 because you were so successful, just one after the other, 0:05:12.400 --> 0:05:14.320 what felt like, like, did you really feel it an 0:05:14.320 --> 0:05:16.560 experience it? Are we just running so hard? I think 0:05:16.560 --> 0:05:18.960 you're just running so hard that you did you feel it? 0:05:19.000 --> 0:05:21.080 And I think I feel it more now looking back, 0:05:21.240 --> 0:05:23.160 you know, in Gina and I and we'll talk about 0:05:23.160 --> 0:05:26.960 it sometimes and and and I mean we really were 0:05:27.120 --> 0:05:29.800 like truly truly blessed. And we still are. Man, we 0:05:29.880 --> 0:05:31.800 still go and we still play a lot. We don't 0:05:31.839 --> 0:05:34.720 tour when we you know, when those first several years 0:05:34.720 --> 0:05:37.000 we played three hundred shows a year. Sometimes you're on 0:05:37.040 --> 0:05:39.120 the road that much, you were, man, we would we 0:05:39.160 --> 0:05:41.920 would go. We we developed kind of the three week 0:05:42.040 --> 0:05:43.760 rule to where you know, if we don't want to 0:05:43.800 --> 0:05:45.480 be gone more than three weeks, and we'll come home 0:05:45.520 --> 0:05:48.080 for a week and go again sometimes. But I remember 0:05:48.120 --> 0:05:50.400 like going for three full months and not even coming home, 0:05:50.960 --> 0:05:55.520 you know. Um, but we always we've always been a 0:05:55.680 --> 0:05:58.719 radio band, and radio has always been our lifeblood, and 0:05:58.720 --> 0:06:00.920 they've always been very very get to us. Did you 0:06:00.920 --> 0:06:02.600 want to be a radio band at first? Or just 0:06:02.680 --> 0:06:05.560 a rock band that the times happened to fit the sound? 0:06:05.920 --> 0:06:08.480 I think that it just kind of happened because you know, 0:06:09.200 --> 0:06:11.520 we never toured before we got signed. We were from 0:06:11.520 --> 0:06:17.799 South Mississippi and uh and we're from Biloxi, Missisipiorst Point, Mississippi. 0:06:17.880 --> 0:06:20.240 But basically Biloxi were just like halfway in between New 0:06:20.360 --> 0:06:23.920 Orleans and Mobile, and um, we couldn't get a gig 0:06:23.920 --> 0:06:26.440 in New Orleans. We couldn't get gigs in Mobile, nobody. 0:06:26.480 --> 0:06:28.760 I mean, we just had to play like right there. 0:06:29.160 --> 0:06:31.359 It worked at what worked to our benefit was the 0:06:31.360 --> 0:06:33.039 fact that there just wasn't a whole lot to do 0:06:33.120 --> 0:06:34.719 in the area. So we always had a ton of 0:06:34.760 --> 0:06:38.040 friends at the shows and stuff like that. And um, 0:06:38.200 --> 0:06:40.240 so we went made a local a little CD at 0:06:40.240 --> 0:06:42.920 a local studio and had Kryptonite on it. Along with 0:06:43.560 --> 0:06:47.000 what would become like half of the first record. And 0:06:47.160 --> 0:06:50.000 um so we begged our local radio station to play it. 0:06:50.160 --> 0:06:51.919 And you know they can't just do that, right, but 0:06:51.920 --> 0:06:53.640 they had a local radio show that they would do 0:06:53.720 --> 0:06:56.760 once a month, and um so they played us on 0:06:56.800 --> 0:06:59.720 there a lot. And and finally we begged the program 0:06:59.720 --> 0:07:02.480 director long enough uh that he was like, okay, I'll 0:07:02.480 --> 0:07:04.560 add Grip tonight, and he tried it and it became 0:07:04.600 --> 0:07:07.000 the most requests it's only ever had. And now some 0:07:07.040 --> 0:07:09.200 of those people might have been interference our family for 0:07:09.320 --> 0:07:12.560 a little while, but after a while it became like 0:07:13.440 --> 0:07:16.680 a hit on that station. And they were a reporting station, 0:07:17.120 --> 0:07:18.960 and so you know, the report was going out that 0:07:19.520 --> 0:07:21.800 this number one song, and but there was no record 0:07:21.800 --> 0:07:24.640 company beside it. So there came the record companies and 0:07:24.800 --> 0:07:28.080 uh and we weren't even trying to get signed. We 0:07:28.640 --> 0:07:31.400 they just came and it just happened. So where all 0:07:31.440 --> 0:07:32.960 you guys, where'd you come? How did you come together? 0:07:33.480 --> 0:07:36.200 We were all from the same little town, Escuatapa, Mississippi, 0:07:36.480 --> 0:07:40.880 and um mad and now which our our original guitar player, 0:07:40.920 --> 0:07:44.680 he's he's passed away. We had he's my cousin and 0:07:44.800 --> 0:07:48.120 we just always played together and started playing his garage 0:07:48.160 --> 0:07:49.960 before I even had a drum set. And one of 0:07:49.960 --> 0:07:51.920 his buddies left a jump set over there from new 0:07:51.960 --> 0:07:56.240 Play and and uh Todd our original bass player. Um. 0:07:56.480 --> 0:07:58.280 He asked me in Matt to come over to this 0:07:58.280 --> 0:07:59.880 house one day and play, and we just started the 0:08:00.160 --> 0:08:02.680 end and I was the drummer. I didn't. I had 0:08:02.720 --> 0:08:06.080 never sang in front of anybody ever, and I just 0:08:06.320 --> 0:08:08.560 I was like, oh, I try it. And I was 0:08:08.600 --> 0:08:12.160 so shy that Todd lived in a trailer and I 0:08:12.160 --> 0:08:14.480 would sit in the in the in the front living room, 0:08:14.480 --> 0:08:16.640 move his trailer and I would A couple of his 0:08:16.680 --> 0:08:18.640 girlfriend and one of her friends would always be over there. 0:08:18.640 --> 0:08:20.720 They were always at Todd's house. I was so shy 0:08:20.880 --> 0:08:23.400 sit in my face in the corner and singing. Really, 0:08:24.440 --> 0:08:26.960 how hard was it to drum and sing? Not? Not 0:08:27.040 --> 0:08:29.960 so bad. I always wonder how people play guitar and seeing, 0:08:29.960 --> 0:08:31.880 because I mean, I just can't get my fingers to 0:08:31.880 --> 0:08:35.760 do that. But for the drums I played, and I'm 0:08:35.760 --> 0:08:37.520 not a great drum or anything, but I played all 0:08:37.559 --> 0:08:39.880 my life, and so it was never I never really 0:08:39.920 --> 0:08:42.640 thought about it too much. So you never sang and 0:08:42.679 --> 0:08:45.600 you hop up and you start singing, although you're shy, like, 0:08:45.600 --> 0:08:48.520 could you feel you're pretty good at it? I felt 0:08:48.559 --> 0:08:52.120 like I was. Um. I think probably the breakthrough for 0:08:52.200 --> 0:08:55.520 me was when when they told me, like Todd's girlfriend 0:08:55.559 --> 0:08:58.400 was like, you sound really good, you know, like okay, 0:08:58.640 --> 0:09:02.200 you know it from there, and that that definitely helped 0:09:02.240 --> 0:09:04.800 me come out of my shield. But I remember when 0:09:04.800 --> 0:09:07.600 we recorded that first record. I got to get home 0:09:07.760 --> 0:09:09.440 and I played it from my parents and my dad said, 0:09:09.440 --> 0:09:11.840 who's that singing? I was like, you know it ain't. 0:09:13.600 --> 0:09:15.760 That's funny, And it's such a funny story that your 0:09:15.840 --> 0:09:18.640 local radio station playing the song is what ended up 0:09:18.640 --> 0:09:20.760 getting you guys a deal, because there's kind of breaking 0:09:20.760 --> 0:09:23.560 down for our listeners. If stations are big enough, their 0:09:23.600 --> 0:09:27.240 playlists get reported to basically a database, and they take 0:09:27.280 --> 0:09:29.959 the database and they go, Okay, this meant this song 0:09:30.000 --> 0:09:32.200 had this many plays at reporting stations, and that's what 0:09:32.280 --> 0:09:35.439 builds the chart. So any station that's big enough has 0:09:35.480 --> 0:09:39.200 a reporting tag, and you're on reporting station and there's 0:09:39.240 --> 0:09:41.600 this song, the number one song that has no record 0:09:41.679 --> 0:09:43.839 label beside it, because every song, every band has a 0:09:43.920 --> 0:09:46.240 label written right beside it. Like if they're on Mercury 0:09:46.360 --> 0:09:49.400 or Hollywood, but three doors that had nothing nothing, And 0:09:49.480 --> 0:09:53.040 so the label did multiple labels approach you guys, They 0:09:53.040 --> 0:09:55.640 did Universal in Atlantic. It was the main two that 0:09:55.679 --> 0:09:57.560 we talked to in a couple of a couple of 0:09:57.600 --> 0:10:01.000 others and Um and UM. Money Littman came down, who 0:10:01.040 --> 0:10:03.880 is now the president of Universal. That was when he 0:10:03.960 --> 0:10:07.200 and his brother Avery Littman at first started are not 0:10:08.120 --> 0:10:11.160 just started, but recently started Republic, which was a rock 0:10:11.280 --> 0:10:15.240 very label on inside of Universal. And he came down 0:10:15.240 --> 0:10:17.439 and talked to us, and uh, and we just liked 0:10:17.480 --> 0:10:19.560 what Money had to say and he was honest with us, 0:10:19.600 --> 0:10:22.120 and and uh, what does he say to you? You 0:10:22.160 --> 0:10:25.680 know what stand out about the meeting above what made 0:10:25.720 --> 0:10:28.680 us ultimately go with them above anybody else. He said, Look, 0:10:28.760 --> 0:10:30.079 he said, a lot of people come down here and 0:10:30.120 --> 0:10:31.760 lie to you and tell you this and that and 0:10:31.800 --> 0:10:34.040 tell you what you want to hear. He said, it's 0:10:34.080 --> 0:10:37.320 like this. You sell me records where it's all good. 0:10:37.480 --> 0:10:40.200 You stop selling records. I stopped answering the phone. I 0:10:40.240 --> 0:10:44.200 think good enough. And when you get signed, is it 0:10:44.320 --> 0:10:47.080 like a recoup? Whenever they give you money for a record, 0:10:47.080 --> 0:10:48.440 do they give you any sort of money up front, 0:10:48.520 --> 0:10:51.000 like you here have money to go buy some clothes. 0:10:51.400 --> 0:10:55.000 They did. They gave us. They gave us um assignment 0:10:55.080 --> 0:10:57.200 bonus when we first signed, and it wound up that 0:10:57.240 --> 0:11:00.040 we all got fifteen thousand dollars apiece to sign on 0:11:00.800 --> 0:11:03.280 in all four members before was at the time we 0:11:03.440 --> 0:11:08.480 all wouldn't spin it all on jet skis that in 0:11:08.520 --> 0:11:11.080 fifteen dollars. Again, we're the same agent basically from the 0:11:11.080 --> 0:11:13.559 same part of the world. Because I'm from Arkansas. You 0:11:13.559 --> 0:11:15.600 give me fifteen thousand dollars as a nineteen or twenty 0:11:15.679 --> 0:11:17.679 year old, I mean one, that's more money that I've 0:11:17.720 --> 0:11:20.640 ever seen it at once ever. And then too, I'm 0:11:20.679 --> 0:11:22.800 probably gonna make some dumb decisions too. And so you 0:11:22.800 --> 0:11:25.120 guys all go buy jess Kis. It was gold And 0:11:25.280 --> 0:11:28.120 where do you do? You ride them in the Gulf? Yeah? Yeah, right, 0:11:28.200 --> 0:11:29.920 we lived right on the Gulf and right kind of 0:11:29.920 --> 0:11:31.760 we grew up on the river, but just ride up 0:11:31.800 --> 0:11:34.080 the river from the golf That's funny. You know what 0:11:34.120 --> 0:11:35.880 I didn't know is that you wrote Kryptonite in high school, 0:11:37.320 --> 0:11:40.240 which is which is not? This is to me the 0:11:40.320 --> 0:11:42.440 song that you guys would be known most for is it? 0:11:42.480 --> 0:11:45.360 Is it to you? Um, it's what kind of started. Definitely, 0:11:45.440 --> 0:11:48.720 I guess maybe Here without You is kind of the 0:11:48.800 --> 0:11:52.040 song that kept it going. But Kryptonite is definitely what 0:11:52.160 --> 0:11:54.679 kind of school I'm play a little Kryptonite? This was 0:11:54.760 --> 0:11:56.560 the jam I remember when he came out. I was like, 0:11:56.559 --> 0:11:57.880 I don't even know who these guys are, but I 0:11:58.000 --> 0:12:00.440 love him. So tell me about this. You right? It 0:12:00.520 --> 0:12:02.839 in high school hall the year like junior senior high school. 0:12:02.880 --> 0:12:04.640 I was a senior, and so you sit down and go, 0:12:05.200 --> 0:12:08.280 are you watching Superman? Or? You know? It was? It 0:12:08.440 --> 0:12:11.760 was I guess it was just me asking a question 0:12:12.559 --> 0:12:17.160 of of like unconditional friendship. It's like, if I'm doing good, 0:12:17.200 --> 0:12:18.760 will you'd be there for me? And if I'm down, 0:12:18.760 --> 0:12:21.840 will you'd be there for me? And you know, honest 0:12:21.840 --> 0:12:23.720 to god, I didn't think a whole lot about it. 0:12:23.800 --> 0:12:26.520 You know, it sounded good and the words rhymed. It 0:12:27.120 --> 0:12:30.040 meant a lot more to me later and it still 0:12:30.080 --> 0:12:36.080 means things to me right now because later on in 0:12:36.120 --> 0:12:40.120 my life I started realizing that question was kind of 0:12:40.120 --> 0:12:41.800 a pretty good question. If I go crazy, will you 0:12:41.840 --> 0:12:43.680 still call me Superman? Or if I'm alive? And will 0:12:43.720 --> 0:12:46.960 you will you be there holding my hand? And the 0:12:47.000 --> 0:12:50.440 reason it became more meaningful to me later was the 0:12:50.480 --> 0:12:54.520 fact that so many times it's like people are willingly 0:12:54.920 --> 0:12:57.760 there for you when you're down, but those same people 0:12:57.760 --> 0:12:59.560 that's like, oh, yeah, man, you're gonna do great, You're 0:12:59.559 --> 0:13:01.520 gonna do well. If you start doing great, those same 0:13:01.600 --> 0:13:03.840 people will kind of turn on you sometimes, you know. 0:13:04.600 --> 0:13:07.360 And so that question kind of became a valuable question 0:13:07.400 --> 0:13:10.160 to me and and and pretty meaningful for me. It's 0:13:10.160 --> 0:13:13.199 almost like a marriage vale you know, for richer or poor, 0:13:13.720 --> 0:13:15.880 you know, to death do us part. It's almost what 0:13:15.920 --> 0:13:18.280 that is, like if I'm good, are we good? If 0:13:18.280 --> 0:13:20.600 I'm bad? Are we good? Are you gonna You're gonna 0:13:20.600 --> 0:13:22.559 be there the whole time? And that was the one 0:13:22.600 --> 0:13:25.319 that the local stession played. Now was that you guys 0:13:25.320 --> 0:13:27.360 first single, like right out of the box. It was 0:13:27.480 --> 0:13:29.600 so it was the one that that worked for you guys, 0:13:29.640 --> 0:13:31.800 and then you ran with it nationally and did you 0:13:31.840 --> 0:13:34.160 feel good about it early? Like we're stations receptive to it? 0:13:34.679 --> 0:13:37.920 They were, and they were, and it started doing good 0:13:38.400 --> 0:13:41.320 and then it kind of it kind of leveled all 0:13:41.360 --> 0:13:44.040 for a second, and they're like and then it. Really 0:13:44.080 --> 0:13:46.280 it's kind of like hit another year and it took off. 0:13:46.520 --> 0:13:49.520 Could you feel that when it was early? Yeah? And 0:13:49.559 --> 0:13:51.320 so you start to get calls from like TV shows, 0:13:51.320 --> 0:13:53.400 are you doing like the the the late night shows 0:13:53.440 --> 0:13:55.560 or MTV stuff like that. We did. We never did 0:13:55.600 --> 0:13:57.199 a whole lot on MTV, but we've done all the 0:13:57.280 --> 0:14:00.160 late night shows. So back did you ever do Letterman? Oh? 0:14:00.160 --> 0:14:02.640 We did? How was that? It was cool? Yeah? It 0:14:02.720 --> 0:14:06.080 was literally cool because the theater was so cold. Yeah, 0:14:06.120 --> 0:14:08.240 but we played I think I think we held the 0:14:08.280 --> 0:14:11.480 record on Jay Leno Show for the most times on 0:14:11.600 --> 0:14:14.800 I think we played Jay Leno Show seven times. Is 0:14:14.840 --> 0:14:16.400 he super nice? Yas I was gonna say, like the 0:14:16.400 --> 0:14:17.800 the whole thing with Jay was he would come by 0:14:17.800 --> 0:14:20.160 and be super nice. Hey, hey he's dripping. He was 0:14:20.240 --> 0:14:23.000 really really cool. So yeah, so that comes out and 0:14:23.040 --> 0:14:24.720 you gotta be feeling pretty good. But do you start 0:14:24.720 --> 0:14:26.200 to feel like, man, I wonder for a one and 0:14:26.240 --> 0:14:29.080 done band, oh man, because that can be the kiss 0:14:29.080 --> 0:14:31.560 of death, Like one huge song? Can that can do 0:14:31.720 --> 0:14:34.680 you in? Just would you rather have had one huge 0:14:34.680 --> 0:14:38.880 song let's say like a chumba wamba or lou bega 0:14:39.160 --> 0:14:41.000 and went away or had no major song at all, 0:14:41.000 --> 0:14:43.920 but a few that were okay. I think I'd rather 0:14:43.960 --> 0:14:45.720 have a few that was okay. Yeah. Why is that? 0:14:46.240 --> 0:14:48.680 Because I think it would create more longevity in your 0:14:48.680 --> 0:14:51.000 career and allow you to go play more shows, because 0:14:51.480 --> 0:14:54.320 you know, you know, a lot of bands kind of 0:14:54.800 --> 0:14:57.640 look at it as like we toured to promote a record, 0:14:58.120 --> 0:15:00.240 but we put out a record so we could go tour. 0:15:00.800 --> 0:15:03.240 You know, we always we just always like to go 0:15:03.360 --> 0:15:07.120 play live. And you also, I guess, would become kind 0:15:07.120 --> 0:15:08.960 of a character of yourself if you have one song, 0:15:09.040 --> 0:15:11.640 like you're always did that image of that one song 0:15:11.680 --> 0:15:14.880 because there's not another one or two to balance it 0:15:14.920 --> 0:15:16.920 out so much. And I say that because I was 0:15:16.920 --> 0:15:20.280 watching this story about Bobby McFerrin, who has Don't Worry, 0:15:20.400 --> 0:15:23.800 Be Happy. He won't play that song anymore because he's like, 0:15:24.000 --> 0:15:27.120 that was like a goofy song that I never expected 0:15:27.160 --> 0:15:29.520 to be a hit, and that actually doesn't represent me 0:15:29.560 --> 0:15:32.960 at all, and so he doesn't play that at all. Really, yeah, 0:15:32.960 --> 0:15:35.320 he doesn't play it at all. Like what do you 0:15:35.320 --> 0:15:37.600 get tired of playing the big hits? I don't. I 0:15:37.680 --> 0:15:41.680 don't because uh, and we're doing a lot of acoustic shows, 0:15:41.760 --> 0:15:43.440 right now and I like doing acoustics because it gives 0:15:43.440 --> 0:15:45.080 me a chance to talk to the crowd. And one 0:15:45.080 --> 0:15:47.280 of the things I was telling the crowd the other 0:15:47.360 --> 0:15:49.720 night because I just talk whatever on my mind, you know, 0:15:49.800 --> 0:15:51.640 and and I was just telling him. I was like, 0:15:51.640 --> 0:15:54.800 you know, it never it never gets old. And and 0:15:56.640 --> 0:15:59.120 because I love hearing him sing it back. And it's 0:15:59.160 --> 0:16:01.880 weird because for the last fifteen years we wore in 0:16:01.960 --> 0:16:04.880 ear monitors. Well, had a weird situation like two weekends ago, 0:16:05.040 --> 0:16:07.560 my monitor guy, we were in and out of town, 0:16:07.560 --> 0:16:09.320 you know, and he left our inn years at home 0:16:09.840 --> 0:16:12.640 and thank god we had some wedges. And so that 0:16:12.680 --> 0:16:14.240 was my first time to sing with wedges in like 0:16:14.320 --> 0:16:16.400 fifteen years. Wow. And So by the way, wedges, for 0:16:16.440 --> 0:16:19.120 people that don't know, the inner ears are uh a 0:16:19.160 --> 0:16:21.000 little the tiny things that you see the artists wearing 0:16:21.000 --> 0:16:23.280 their ears. And so basically it's a mix inside the 0:16:23.320 --> 0:16:25.680 years and it seals off all the outside sound and 0:16:25.720 --> 0:16:28.840 what the monitors are are, or the wedges are, the 0:16:29.000 --> 0:16:32.600 the on stage, the little box speakers. Everybody can kind 0:16:32.600 --> 0:16:34.360 to hear them, but they're pointed at you. And so 0:16:34.360 --> 0:16:36.400 it was the first time in fifteen years you'd use us. Yeah, 0:16:36.760 --> 0:16:39.560 and uh for one of our shows, and it allowed 0:16:39.560 --> 0:16:41.720 me to hear the crowd, and I was like, man, 0:16:42.560 --> 0:16:44.920 missing this because you know, sometimes for the inn ears, 0:16:44.960 --> 0:16:47.040 you only hear what you want to hear. But it 0:16:47.080 --> 0:16:50.360 can really kind of it can definitely separate you from 0:16:50.400 --> 0:16:52.880 everybody out there. I have, I usually have some ambient 0:16:52.960 --> 0:16:56.080 mics in there a little bit, but um and coincidentally, 0:16:56.120 --> 0:16:58.480 the first the first of those two shows was it's 0:16:58.520 --> 0:17:01.840 pretty small and uh, I could I could hear people 0:17:01.880 --> 0:17:05.159 like talking while I was singing shut up, Okay. So 0:17:05.520 --> 0:17:08.240 I just saw by the way, you mentioned the acoustic 0:17:08.280 --> 0:17:10.680 before you get to the next point, back porch jams out. 0:17:10.680 --> 0:17:13.480 Here's Kryptonite, the acoustic version that three doors down just 0:17:13.520 --> 0:17:21.359 put out. Man, do you guys rerecord these? Did you 0:17:21.400 --> 0:17:22.960 go energy pill stuff back? Or howd you do that? 0:17:23.160 --> 0:17:26.080 We just we have a studio that we own just 0:17:26.160 --> 0:17:28.840 up in Hendersonville and it's just a small, little nothing 0:17:28.920 --> 0:17:30.920 studio and we just went in there and and ran 0:17:30.960 --> 0:17:33.560 through them and just played them I think just maybe 0:17:33.560 --> 0:17:35.560 once or twice, is that right? Because we tried to 0:17:35.640 --> 0:17:37.080 keep it kind of live. We didn't want it to 0:17:37.119 --> 0:17:41.080 be like to like right, you know, it's my whole life. 0:17:41.080 --> 0:17:42.960 I don't want to be too right. I just won't 0:17:42.960 --> 0:17:46.080 feel normal if it's too right. You know, you mentioned 0:17:46.080 --> 0:17:48.120 people talking. I did a whole thing on the air 0:17:48.280 --> 0:17:50.480 a couple of days ago where I was talking about 0:17:50.840 --> 0:17:53.080 acoustic shows or even when I do stand up, Like 0:17:53.119 --> 0:17:56.080 there's a difference because when someone's talking and I'm doing 0:17:56.119 --> 0:18:00.440 stand up, it kills all of like my rhythm. I'm 0:18:00.480 --> 0:18:02.520 talking and if you yell hey, you're all even if 0:18:02.520 --> 0:18:05.960 you hey, you're awesome, it it stops it. It kills everything. 0:18:06.280 --> 0:18:08.720 And I'm like, there's a difference in screaming that out 0:18:09.280 --> 0:18:11.399 when I'm doing stand up or someone is doing an 0:18:11.440 --> 0:18:15.440 acoustic show versus when there's fire and there's big electric 0:18:15.480 --> 0:18:17.640 guitars and know, you can scream it all you want, 0:18:17.840 --> 0:18:20.400