Speaker 1: All right, welcome to episode one sixty five of the
Speaker 1: Bobby Cast. This is an exciting one for me because
Speaker 1: it's Brad Arnold from Three Doors Down. Glad to have you, man,
Speaker 1: Thank you for having men. I'm glad to be here.
Speaker 1: I'm such a fan of Three Doors Down because how
Speaker 1: old a guy are you? I am about the same
Speaker 1: age you were, So you were were the same age basically, right.
Speaker 1: You were so big and I was like an idiot
Speaker 1: on the radio and Hot Springs, Arkansas, and you were
Speaker 1: like all over the world. I felt so so small now, man.
Speaker 1: We did start young. I started touring when I was twenty.
Speaker 1: I just turned twenty one, and it was you know,
Speaker 1: they say like youth is wasted on the young. So
Speaker 1: it's touring because I think I would have enjoyed it
Speaker 1: so much more now in the mindset that I'm in
Speaker 1: in my life and just the place that I am,
Speaker 1: than I did then, because you know, you get out
Speaker 1: there and you're young and you start touring, and it's
Speaker 1: that's a lot to handle hand a twenty one year old,
Speaker 1: you know, and it's basically you know, just to here's
Speaker 1: the I used to tell people, it's like having a backstage,
Speaker 1: passed to life and eat out there and and I
Speaker 1: was an idiot, and I didn't you know, I didn't
Speaker 1: do a lot of things, but I was just I
Speaker 1: guess my main thing that I got out, I just
Speaker 1: got out and drank so much and things like that.
Speaker 1: And and um, I've been without alcohol, been alcohol free
Speaker 1: for a little over three years. As I wish, man
Speaker 1: I could just take that and apply to my whole career,
Speaker 1: I would have enjoyed it so much more. I think
Speaker 1: I saw you guys probably five times, you know, all
Speaker 1: through my years. Um, And so for me, I think
Speaker 1: the last time I saw you guys was you guys
Speaker 1: in Fuel. You guys were playing together. But I've bet
Speaker 1: a lot of those bands, did you guys kind of
Speaker 1: cross paths and tool randomly with a lot of those
Speaker 1: guys kind of in that same class and when when
Speaker 1: pop was rock, So how did those tours often come together?
Speaker 1: Did you did you switch places sometimes? Like who had
Speaker 1: the bigger song would kind of lead the tour? Well,
Speaker 1: we um, by the grace of God, our first record
Speaker 1: like done really good and we started touring together with
Speaker 1: Nickelback was used to be uh their second record kind
Speaker 1: of took off for them, and so that was the
Speaker 1: first tour that we would kind of they opened for
Speaker 1: us for and a couple first couple of years that
Speaker 1: both of us were out and uh, and then their
Speaker 1: second record took off, and we've done a tour together
Speaker 1: to where we kind of flip flop back and forth
Speaker 1: playing and then we had we went our separate ways.
Speaker 1: So like not good blood, not good blood. So what's
Speaker 1: the deal with Nickelback? Why does anybody hate on Nickelback?
Speaker 1: I don't know, why do you think people hate on Nickelback?
Speaker 1: And I wouldn't have went there for you, you know,
Speaker 1: I didn't know you guys tore with Nickelback a lot.
Speaker 1: There's been a lot of times were we both started
Speaker 1: on two already Eagles, you know, like the nineteen eighties
Speaker 1: Eagle buses, and one of them was always broke. So
Speaker 1: there was a lot of times where there was I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, in those days, all band and crew on
Speaker 1: one bus. On that tour, there was both bands and
Speaker 1: broth crews on one bus for a lot of times
Speaker 1: because one of the bus was always tore, tore up,
Speaker 1: and and it would break down and we just had
Speaker 1: to get to the next gig, so everybody's just kid
Speaker 1: on one. Which if a bus only holds twelve, now
Speaker 1: a bustle whole twelve legitimately like my bustle whole twelve legitimately,
Speaker 1: So that means there's enough bunks and legally you can
Speaker 1: have twelve. This sounds like there's more than twelve people
Speaker 1: on that bus, but there a lot of people some
Speaker 1: Mondey would always give me a bunk and uh so
Speaker 1: so the two singers could sleep or whatever. Um, but
Speaker 1: uh yeah, we just kind of we Our old drummer
Speaker 1: is now their drummer. Daniel used to be our drummer
Speaker 1: for quite a while, and uh and and he's a
Speaker 1: great drummer, you know. And um, it was just I
Speaker 1: don't really know honestly how it got to be Bad Blood,
Speaker 1: but I think kind of it was a thing in
Speaker 1: the ward show. And I don't even remember what a
Speaker 1: ward show it was. And it was even between the
Speaker 1: two bands. It was between some crew guys or something.
Speaker 1: But I don't know why people I don't know why
Speaker 1: people hate on him so much. But well, if you
Speaker 1: don't like him, I now hate Nickelback to Mike, let
Speaker 1: him know, let him know I'm tired of defending them.
Speaker 1: I don't like him anymore. But I don't like them.
Speaker 1: I don't I don't dislike you know, honestly, I hadn't
Speaker 1: talked to him in a really long time. Here's the
Speaker 1: story one of my friends told me, because they went
Speaker 1: to Canada and they're a country band, and they said
Speaker 1: they were playing with Nickelback, and I guess those guys
Speaker 1: are really rich. I guess Chad Corger is really rich.
Speaker 1: And apparently went on a yacht. This is all hearsay, right,
Speaker 1: They went out a yacht and they were throwing pillows
Speaker 1: into the air and shooting them with guns, and that
Speaker 1: he was just wild and they just had guns and
Speaker 1: still like partying on boats and off the coast. And
Speaker 1: I was like, man, Nickelback is still going hard right now.
Speaker 1: I guess so, man. I've heard some stories about Ted
Speaker 1: doing some pretty outland just things, but it was mainly
Speaker 1: like throwing money around and and stuff like that. And
Speaker 1: for me personally, I mean, I come from a good
Speaker 1: family of saving kids. But my mom there taught me
Speaker 1: to the value of money, and I still remember the
Speaker 1: value of money, and I just think about it, you know,
Speaker 1: I guess probably I was probably like nineteen or twenty,
Speaker 1: and you guys, in my mind really blew up and
Speaker 1: that rock sound became the pop sound because I was
Speaker 1: working on pop radio and every song you guys are
Speaker 1: put out would just be massive. And when you're in
Speaker 1: the mid and I can feel this a bit with
Speaker 1: me now, meaning I'll work so hard, I really don't
Speaker 1: see the cool things that are happening around me at
Speaker 1: the level I should really appreciate and see them. I wonder,
Speaker 1: because you were so successful, just one after the other,
Speaker 1: what felt like, like, did you really feel it an
Speaker 1: experience it? Are we just running so hard? I think
Speaker 1: you're just running so hard that you did you feel it?
Speaker 1: And I think I feel it more now looking back,
Speaker 1: you know, in Gina and I and we'll talk about
Speaker 1: it sometimes and and and I mean we really were
Speaker 1: like truly truly blessed. And we still are. Man, we
Speaker 1: still go and we still play a lot. We don't
Speaker 1: tour when we you know, when those first several years
Speaker 1: we played three hundred shows a year. Sometimes you're on
Speaker 1: the road that much, you were, man, we would we
Speaker 1: would go. We we developed kind of the three week
Speaker 1: rule to where you know, if we don't want to
Speaker 1: be gone more than three weeks, and we'll come home
Speaker 1: for a week and go again sometimes. But I remember
Speaker 1: like going for three full months and not even coming home,
Speaker 1: you know. Um, but we always we've always been a
Speaker 1: radio band, and radio has always been our lifeblood, and
Speaker 1: they've always been very very get to us. Did you
Speaker 1: want to be a radio band at first? Or just
Speaker 1: a rock band that the times happened to fit the sound?
Speaker 1: I think that it just kind of happened because you know,
Speaker 1: we never toured before we got signed. We were from
Speaker 1: South Mississippi and uh and we're from Biloxi, Missisipiorst Point, Mississippi.
Speaker 1: But basically Biloxi were just like halfway in between New
Speaker 1: Orleans and Mobile, and um, we couldn't get a gig
Speaker 1: in New Orleans. We couldn't get gigs in Mobile, nobody.
Speaker 1: I mean, we just had to play like right there.
Speaker 1: It worked at what worked to our benefit was the
Speaker 1: fact that there just wasn't a whole lot to do
Speaker 1: in the area. So we always had a ton of
Speaker 1: friends at the shows and stuff like that. And um,
Speaker 1: so we went made a local a little CD at
Speaker 1: a local studio and had Kryptonite on it. Along with
Speaker 1: what would become like half of the first record. And
Speaker 1: um so we begged our local radio station to play it.
Speaker 1: And you know they can't just do that, right, but
Speaker 1: they had a local radio show that they would do
Speaker 1: once a month, and um so they played us on
Speaker 1: there a lot. And and finally we begged the program
Speaker 1: director long enough uh that he was like, okay, I'll
Speaker 1: add Grip tonight, and he tried it and it became
Speaker 1: the most requests it's only ever had. And now some
Speaker 1: of those people might have been interference our family for
Speaker 1: a little while, but after a while it became like
Speaker 1: a hit on that station. And they were a reporting station,
Speaker 1: and so you know, the report was going out that
Speaker 1: this number one song, and but there was no record
Speaker 1: company beside it. So there came the record companies and
Speaker 1: uh and we weren't even trying to get signed. We
Speaker 1: they just came and it just happened. So where all
Speaker 1: you guys, where'd you come? How did you come together?
Speaker 1: We were all from the same little town, Escuatapa, Mississippi,
Speaker 1: and um mad and now which our our original guitar player,
Speaker 1: he's he's passed away. We had he's my cousin and
Speaker 1: we just always played together and started playing his garage
Speaker 1: before I even had a drum set. And one of
Speaker 1: his buddies left a jump set over there from new
Speaker 1: Play and and uh Todd our original bass player. Um.
Speaker 1: He asked me in Matt to come over to this
Speaker 1: house one day and play, and we just started the
Speaker 1: end and I was the drummer. I didn't. I had
Speaker 1: never sang in front of anybody ever, and I just
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, I try it. And I was
Speaker 1: so shy that Todd lived in a trailer and I
Speaker 1: would sit in the in the in the front living room,
Speaker 1: move his trailer and I would A couple of his
Speaker 1: girlfriend and one of her friends would always be over there.
Speaker 1: They were always at Todd's house. I was so shy
Speaker 1: sit in my face in the corner and singing. Really,
Speaker 1: how hard was it to drum and sing? Not? Not
Speaker 1: so bad. I always wonder how people play guitar and seeing,
Speaker 1: because I mean, I just can't get my fingers to
Speaker 1: do that. But for the drums I played, and I'm
Speaker 1: not a great drum or anything, but I played all
Speaker 1: my life, and so it was never I never really
Speaker 1: thought about it too much. So you never sang and
Speaker 1: you hop up and you start singing, although you're shy, like,
Speaker 1: could you feel you're pretty good at it? I felt
Speaker 1: like I was. Um. I think probably the breakthrough for
Speaker 1: me was when when they told me, like Todd's girlfriend
Speaker 1: was like, you sound really good, you know, like okay,
Speaker 1: you know it from there, and that that definitely helped
Speaker 1: me come out of my shield. But I remember when
Speaker 1: we recorded that first record. I got to get home
Speaker 1: and I played it from my parents and my dad said,
Speaker 1: who's that singing? I was like, you know it ain't.
Speaker 1: That's funny, And it's such a funny story that your
Speaker 1: local radio station playing the song is what ended up
Speaker 1: getting you guys a deal, because there's kind of breaking
Speaker 1: down for our listeners. If stations are big enough, their
Speaker 1: playlists get reported to basically a database, and they take
Speaker 1: the database and they go, Okay, this meant this song
Speaker 1: had this many plays at reporting stations, and that's what
Speaker 1: builds the chart. So any station that's big enough has
Speaker 1: a reporting tag, and you're on reporting station and there's
Speaker 1: this song, the number one song that has no record
Speaker 1: label beside it, because every song, every band has a
Speaker 1: label written right beside it. Like if they're on Mercury
Speaker 1: or Hollywood, but three doors that had nothing nothing, And
Speaker 1: so the label did multiple labels approach you guys, They
Speaker 1: did Universal in Atlantic. It was the main two that
Speaker 1: we talked to in a couple of a couple of
Speaker 1: others and Um and UM. Money Littman came down, who
Speaker 1: is now the president of Universal. That was when he
Speaker 1: and his brother Avery Littman at first started are not
Speaker 1: just started, but recently started Republic, which was a rock
Speaker 1: very label on inside of Universal. And he came down
Speaker 1: and talked to us, and uh, and we just liked
Speaker 1: what Money had to say and he was honest with us,
Speaker 1: and and uh, what does he say to you? You
Speaker 1: know what stand out about the meeting above what made
Speaker 1: us ultimately go with them above anybody else. He said, Look,
Speaker 1: he said, a lot of people come down here and
Speaker 1: lie to you and tell you this and that and
Speaker 1: tell you what you want to hear. He said, it's
Speaker 1: like this. You sell me records where it's all good.
Speaker 1: You stop selling records. I stopped answering the phone. I
Speaker 1: think good enough. And when you get signed, is it
Speaker 1: like a recoup? Whenever they give you money for a record,
Speaker 1: do they give you any sort of money up front,
Speaker 1: like you here have money to go buy some clothes.
Speaker 1: They did. They gave us. They gave us um assignment
Speaker 1: bonus when we first signed, and it wound up that
Speaker 1: we all got fifteen thousand dollars apiece to sign on
Speaker 1: in all four members before was at the time we
Speaker 1: all wouldn't spin it all on jet skis that in
Speaker 1: fifteen dollars. Again, we're the same agent basically from the
Speaker 1: same part of the world. Because I'm from Arkansas. You
Speaker 1: give me fifteen thousand dollars as a nineteen or twenty
Speaker 1: year old, I mean one, that's more money that I've
Speaker 1: ever seen it at once ever. And then too, I'm
Speaker 1: probably gonna make some dumb decisions too. And so you
Speaker 1: guys all go buy jess Kis. It was gold And
Speaker 1: where do you do? You ride them in the Gulf? Yeah? Yeah, right,
Speaker 1: we lived right on the Gulf and right kind of
Speaker 1: we grew up on the river, but just ride up
Speaker 1: the river from the golf That's funny. You know what
Speaker 1: I didn't know is that you wrote Kryptonite in high school,
Speaker 1: which is which is not? This is to me the
Speaker 1: song that you guys would be known most for is it?
Speaker 1: Is it to you? Um, it's what kind of started. Definitely,
Speaker 1: I guess maybe Here without You is kind of the
Speaker 1: song that kept it going. But Kryptonite is definitely what
Speaker 1: kind of school I'm play a little Kryptonite? This was
Speaker 1: the jam I remember when he came out. I was like,
Speaker 1: I don't even know who these guys are, but I
Speaker 1: love him. So tell me about this. You right? It
Speaker 1: in high school hall the year like junior senior high school.
Speaker 1: I was a senior, and so you sit down and go,
Speaker 1: are you watching Superman? Or? You know? It was? It
Speaker 1: was I guess it was just me asking a question
Speaker 1: of of like unconditional friendship. It's like, if I'm doing good,
Speaker 1: will you'd be there for me? And if I'm down,
Speaker 1: will you'd be there for me? And you know, honest
Speaker 1: to god, I didn't think a whole lot about it.
Speaker 1: You know, it sounded good and the words rhymed. It
Speaker 1: meant a lot more to me later and it still
Speaker 1: means things to me right now because later on in
Speaker 1: my life I started realizing that question was kind of
Speaker 1: a pretty good question. If I go crazy, will you
Speaker 1: still call me Superman? Or if I'm alive? And will
Speaker 1: you will you be there holding my hand? And the
Speaker 1: reason it became more meaningful to me later was the
Speaker 1: fact that so many times it's like people are willingly
Speaker 1: there for you when you're down, but those same people
Speaker 1: that's like, oh, yeah, man, you're gonna do great, You're
Speaker 1: gonna do well. If you start doing great, those same
Speaker 1: people will kind of turn on you sometimes, you know.
Speaker 1: And so that question kind of became a valuable question
Speaker 1: to me and and and pretty meaningful for me. It's
Speaker 1: almost like a marriage vale you know, for richer or poor,
Speaker 1: you know, to death do us part. It's almost what
Speaker 1: that is, like if I'm good, are we good? If
Speaker 1: I'm bad? Are we good? Are you gonna You're gonna
Speaker 1: be there the whole time? And that was the one
Speaker 1: that the local stession played. Now was that you guys
Speaker 1: first single, like right out of the box. It was
Speaker 1: so it was the one that that worked for you guys,
Speaker 1: and then you ran with it nationally and did you
Speaker 1: feel good about it early? Like we're stations receptive to it?
Speaker 1: They were, and they were, and it started doing good
Speaker 1: and then it kind of it kind of leveled all
Speaker 1: for a second, and they're like and then it. Really
Speaker 1: it's kind of like hit another year and it took off.
Speaker 1: Could you feel that when it was early? Yeah? And
Speaker 1: so you start to get calls from like TV shows,
Speaker 1: are you doing like the the the late night shows
Speaker 1: or MTV stuff like that. We did. We never did
Speaker 1: a whole lot on MTV, but we've done all the
Speaker 1: late night shows. So back did you ever do Letterman? Oh?
Speaker 1: We did? How was that? It was cool? Yeah? It
Speaker 1: was literally cool because the theater was so cold. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but we played I think I think we held the
Speaker 1: record on Jay Leno Show for the most times on
Speaker 1: I think we played Jay Leno Show seven times. Is
Speaker 1: he super nice? Yas I was gonna say, like the
Speaker 1: the whole thing with Jay was he would come by
Speaker 1: and be super nice. Hey, hey he's dripping. He was
Speaker 1: really really cool. So yeah, so that comes out and
Speaker 1: you gotta be feeling pretty good. But do you start
Speaker 1: to feel like, man, I wonder for a one and
Speaker 1: done band, oh man, because that can be the kiss
Speaker 1: of death, Like one huge song? Can that can do
Speaker 1: you in? Just would you rather have had one huge
Speaker 1: song let's say like a chumba wamba or lou bega
Speaker 1: and went away or had no major song at all,
Speaker 1: but a few that were okay. I think I'd rather
Speaker 1: have a few that was okay. Yeah. Why is that?
Speaker 1: Because I think it would create more longevity in your
Speaker 1: career and allow you to go play more shows, because
Speaker 1: you know, you know, a lot of bands kind of
Speaker 1: look at it as like we toured to promote a record,
Speaker 1: but we put out a record so we could go tour.
Speaker 1: You know, we always we just always like to go
Speaker 1: play live. And you also, I guess, would become kind
Speaker 1: of a character of yourself if you have one song,
Speaker 1: like you're always did that image of that one song
Speaker 1: because there's not another one or two to balance it
Speaker 1: out so much. And I say that because I was
Speaker 1: watching this story about Bobby McFerrin, who has Don't Worry,
Speaker 1: Be Happy. He won't play that song anymore because he's like,
Speaker 1: that was like a goofy song that I never expected
Speaker 1: to be a hit, and that actually doesn't represent me
Speaker 1: at all, and so he doesn't play that at all. Really, yeah,
Speaker 1: he doesn't play it at all. Like what do you
Speaker 1: get tired of playing the big hits? I don't. I
Speaker 1: don't because uh, and we're doing a lot of acoustic shows,
Speaker 1: right now and I like doing acoustics because it gives
Speaker 1: me a chance to talk to the crowd. And one
Speaker 1: of the things I was telling the crowd the other
Speaker 1: night because I just talk whatever on my mind, you know,
Speaker 1: and and I was just telling him. I was like,
Speaker 1: you know, it never it never gets old. And and
Speaker 1: because I love hearing him sing it back. And it's
Speaker 1: weird because for the last fifteen years we wore in
Speaker 1: ear monitors. Well, had a weird situation like two weekends ago,
Speaker 1: my monitor guy, we were in and out of town,
Speaker 1: you know, and he left our inn years at home
Speaker 1: and thank god we had some wedges. And so that
Speaker 1: was my first time to sing with wedges in like
Speaker 1: fifteen years. Wow. And So by the way, wedges, for
Speaker 1: people that don't know, the inner ears are uh a
Speaker 1: little the tiny things that you see the artists wearing
Speaker 1: their ears. And so basically it's a mix inside the
Speaker 1: years and it seals off all the outside sound and
Speaker 1: what the monitors are are, or the wedges are, the
Speaker 1: the on stage, the little box speakers. Everybody can kind
Speaker 1: to hear them, but they're pointed at you. And so
Speaker 1: it was the first time in fifteen years you'd use us. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and uh for one of our shows, and it allowed
Speaker 1: me to hear the crowd, and I was like, man,
Speaker 1: missing this because you know, sometimes for the inn ears,
Speaker 1: you only hear what you want to hear. But it
Speaker 1: can really kind of it can definitely separate you from
Speaker 1: everybody out there. I have, I usually have some ambient
Speaker 1: mics in there a little bit, but um and coincidentally,
Speaker 1: the first the first of those two shows was it's
Speaker 1: pretty small and uh, I could I could hear people
Speaker 1: like talking while I was singing shut up, Okay. So
Speaker 1: I just saw by the way, you mentioned the acoustic
Speaker 1: before you get to the next point, back porch jams out.
Speaker 1: Here's Kryptonite, the acoustic version that three doors down just
Speaker 1: put out. Man, do you guys rerecord these? Did you
Speaker 1: go energy pill stuff back? Or howd you do that?
Speaker 1: We just we have a studio that we own just
Speaker 1: up in Hendersonville and it's just a small, little nothing
Speaker 1: studio and we just went in there and and ran
Speaker 1: through them and just played them I think just maybe
Speaker 1: once or twice, is that right? Because we tried to
Speaker 1: keep it kind of live. We didn't want it to
Speaker 1: be like to like right, you know, it's my whole life.
Speaker 1: I don't want to be too right. I just won't
Speaker 1: feel normal if it's too right. You know, you mentioned
Speaker 1: people talking. I did a whole thing on the air
Speaker 1: a couple of days ago where I was talking about
Speaker 1: acoustic shows or even when I do stand up, Like
Speaker 1: there's a difference because when someone's talking and I'm doing
Speaker 1: stand up, it kills all of like my rhythm. I'm
Speaker 1: talking and if you yell hey, you're all even if
Speaker 1: you hey, you're awesome, it it stops it. It kills everything.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, there's a difference in screaming that out
Speaker 1: when I'm doing stand up or someone is doing an
Speaker 1: acoustic show versus when there's fire and there's big electric
Speaker 1: guitars and know, you can scream it all you want,
Speaker 1: like tell tell the artist you love him, but if
Speaker 1: he's depending on the attention of the room, he's got
Speaker 1: to have the attention of the room. And so you're
Speaker 1: playing these acoustic shows and you started to notice that
Speaker 1: was a thing, huh you do It is irritating because
Speaker 1: for me, but I don't know about you, but I
Speaker 1: feel bad. Not for me. I'll be fine, Like I go,
Speaker 1: I do the best I can, and I feel good
Speaker 1: about it. But it's the people that are sitting out
Speaker 1: there that paid for the ticket that have to hear
Speaker 1: some idiot yelling and I feel bad for them, and
Speaker 1: I get mad for them, and sometimes like I popped
Speaker 1: off the crowd at people in the crowd, and I'm like, dude,
Speaker 1: they didn't pay to hear you tell jokes. They paid
Speaker 1: to come and experience whatever I'm bringing. And I wonder,
Speaker 1: do you feel that way? I do? I do? And
Speaker 1: you know, and and at one of the shows, that
Speaker 1: that first show, so there was somebody over over out
Speaker 1: on one side of the crowd that was just kept
Speaker 1: on screen, and I remember I could hear them while
Speaker 1: I was singing, and I mean they weren't like screaming
Speaker 1: obscenities or something hateful or anything. But after a couple
Speaker 1: of songs, security kim and got him and take them
Speaker 1: took him out. And I don't like to see anybody
Speaker 1: get taking out of the show. I was kind of glahead, Yeah,
Speaker 1: and you know what, and they paid for it too,
Speaker 1: but they can't run it everybody else. That's right. That's
Speaker 1: what That's all it's about to me, is that you're
Speaker 1: running it for everybody else that got asiter that took
Speaker 1: a night and dedicated to come watch freaking three doors
Speaker 1: downplay and there's some guy won't stop screaming as you
Speaker 1: guys are playing here without you acoustic which is cool,
Speaker 1: which is also on the record or so that I
Speaker 1: don't know, sounds pretty perfect to me, I'll be honest
Speaker 1: with you. This is out now the back course shams
Speaker 1: the acoustic versions. So this song? What single was this? Um?
Speaker 1: This was all? This was the second single off the
Speaker 1: second record, So okay, so it was a bit but
Speaker 1: Wain Kryptonite and here with us? So what was the
Speaker 1: second single? A loser? That was the way loser starts
Speaker 1: with that guitar at the beginning of it. Oh man,
Speaker 1: that was a jam that that song. I didn't realize
Speaker 1: it until speaking of like you don't realize what's going
Speaker 1: on around you. And now I might be kind of wrong,
Speaker 1: but in some way that song was number one at
Speaker 1: rock radio for six months? Is that right? So in
Speaker 1: one form or the other for six months it was
Speaker 1: number one because I'm a loser? How is it? Jam man?
Speaker 1: I said, love that song? I mean that's right here
Speaker 1: in the baseline Boo boo that I loved it. Man,
Speaker 1: I geek out over this music. When you played with us,
Speaker 1: I was like, this is the coolest thing I've ever done.
Speaker 1: And I get to play with some alls and people,
Speaker 1: and I was like, I appreciate it. It was so
Speaker 1: much fun because together you came and you sang Kryptonite
Speaker 1: and here without you. I think it's a two songs
Speaker 1: that we did and I just sang background vocals. That
Speaker 1: was the coolest thing ever. It was so it was
Speaker 1: so much fun. I really enjoyed, sincerely, I really enjoyed that.
Speaker 1: I couldn't believe you said yes, because I I told
Speaker 1: him that's that is there anywhere we can get, you know,
Speaker 1: three doors down. I get bragged. I know he lives
Speaker 1: here and I didn't know we had the same management.
Speaker 1: And they were like, you know you have the same
Speaker 1: and I was like, sure it, say where reach out?
Speaker 1: We know him and so they said, yeah, he's gonna
Speaker 1: do it. I was like, are you kidding me? This
Speaker 1: is the craziest thing any time. Man. That was awesome.
Speaker 1: Here's out here without your Now, let's do let's do
Speaker 1: a loser a little bit. Here's a loser you guys,
Speaker 1: pretty party and pretty hard at this point. Were yeah,
Speaker 1: we were, But I actually you know how I wrote
Speaker 1: that song, uh, when I was a teenager. Also, um,
Speaker 1: I wrote it maybe before crypt well, no, it's a
Speaker 1: little bit after. The Cryptic Knight was also like the
Speaker 1: fifth song I ever wrote when I started, when we
Speaker 1: wrote that first record, I've never even written songs. I didn't.
Speaker 1: I didn't really. I started out writing poems. And I
Speaker 1: guess the reason I wrote too many of them high
Speaker 1: school because I think I had like algebra, which is
Speaker 1: the class that I used to setting rhodium. I had
Speaker 1: it right after lunch, and I think that was fourth period.
Speaker 1: Third period was creative writing, and I used to love
Speaker 1: creative writing. I was terrible in math, so I'd take
Speaker 1: creative writing and then I go to lunch and I
Speaker 1: go sitting math class and just like right, I fed
Speaker 1: my brain, you know, and I'd go in there and
Speaker 1: I wrote half that record in there. But I wrote
Speaker 1: Loser right around that same time. But actually wrote her
Speaker 1: about one of my friends and um and what actually
Speaker 1: calling him a loser. But he and I grew up
Speaker 1: together and I know him since we're little bitty kids,
Speaker 1: and uh, he started getting into like jokes pretty bad
Speaker 1: and stuff. And I wasn't writing a calling him a loser.
Speaker 1: I watched his attitude chains to where I could tell
Speaker 1: that like he thought he was a loser, and I was.
Speaker 1: I was almost writing it from his perspective, looking at himself,
Speaker 1: you know, you know what I mean. And um, and
Speaker 1: thankfully dude straightened up. And he's a good dude. And
Speaker 1: I had talked to him a long time. But um,
Speaker 1: that it was written really about one of my friends.
Speaker 1: You wrote those songs in high school, huh and here
Speaker 1: they are lasting twenty years later. That's crazy. So were
Speaker 1: you in high school? Were you the cool music kid?
Speaker 1: Were the dorky music kid? I kinda hung out with everybody. Um,
Speaker 1: And and it was really like I was saying earlier,
Speaker 1: it worked hard at venues to be from that little town.
Speaker 1: And I mean I kind of knew everybody. I wouldn't
Speaker 1: like the kid that got picked on, but I wasn't
Speaker 1: the kid that got invited every party either, you know.
Speaker 1: And um, because we we we practice all the time.
Speaker 1: We were just we played all the time and we
Speaker 1: should have been better, but but we knew. We got
Speaker 1: to where we knew everybody because there was one little
Speaker 1: bar in our town and we played there every weekend.
Speaker 1: And I was only sixteen and I had to get
Speaker 1: I literally had to get a note from a parents
Speaker 1: saying it was okay for me to be in there
Speaker 1: and know a note that's funny, A no to break
Speaker 1: the law? That's fnny. Isn't that funny? Into a bar? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Playing the bars, and we just we'd always have like
Speaker 1: three or four people in there. It was never are
Speaker 1: like but double all there was to go do. And
Speaker 1: we charged like three or three or four dollars to
Speaker 1: come in, and we just got to keep the keep
Speaker 1: the cover charge. So they made the alcohol money and
Speaker 1: you guys got the cover we did. Why about you
Speaker 1: guys were doing all right then? Because again how we
Speaker 1: grew up, you and I both, that's that's a lot
Speaker 1: of money. I worked at McDonald's, and I could make
Speaker 1: more playing in a bar both nights at the weekend.
Speaker 1: I can make a McDonald's all week Did you continue
Speaker 1: to work at McDonald's for a little bit? When did
Speaker 1: you go? All right, I'm just gonna dedicate myself to music. Um,
Speaker 1: I'm mainly quit there because I want to go to
Speaker 1: a party and my manage let me help work. I
Speaker 1: was like, see you make more money playing in bars anyway,
Speaker 1: that's funny. Three doors down the acoustic versions, uh from
Speaker 1: their acoustic back porch jam. Check that out. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: do a break here real quick. Alright, so loser comes out?
Speaker 1: What's next? What comes out to loser? Duck and Ruin
Speaker 1: was the third single off that record, And um, that
Speaker 1: was a fun zone And you wrote this one by yourself? Right?
Speaker 1: We did? Um? Um, Well, this one, I wrote all
Speaker 1: the lyrics. Um. The only thing I hadn't I didn't
Speaker 1: write all the lyrics songs, Like two songs on some
Speaker 1: of our later records, I co wrote those with a
Speaker 1: couple of guys. Um. But this one, we had the
Speaker 1: music for a little while for it, and I just
Speaker 1: never could Sometimes we could have music and a couple
Speaker 1: of the songs, I would write lyrics like completely independent
Speaker 1: of the music, and I just had like this notebook
Speaker 1: of lyrics, and we'd come up with songs and songs
Speaker 1: and songs, and every now and then i'd be listening
Speaker 1: to one and I'll be reading through there and It's like, heym,
Speaker 1: those lyrics work with that music, and I think I
Speaker 1: can run. Was at least part of it kind of
Speaker 1: wound up like that. Man, this was a rock song.
Speaker 1: Right here, I'll sing them all back. I'm here a
Speaker 1: little bit of this. I mean it's heavy. Yeah, it
Speaker 1: was it heavy and now here and now it's it's heavy?
Speaker 1: Was it again to the time? Was it considered heavy?
Speaker 1: M hm? So of that was the first song we
Speaker 1: used kind of like that song was the first song
Speaker 1: I ever heard auto tune on, and we used this
Speaker 1: sort of as an effect. There's a couple of spots
Speaker 1: you can hear my voice kind of like and uh.
Speaker 1: I remember one of the guys from some forty one
Speaker 1: like messing with me one day at the show. He
Speaker 1: was like, so, tune all your vocals, I like, dududes.
Speaker 1: In fact, he's like, it sounds like tuning in to me.
Speaker 1: I was like, whatever it is. Which of those guys
Speaker 1: that you become friends with during that time, like all
Speaker 1: those bands that are, you know, basically touring together, seeing
Speaker 1: each other on the road, who'd you guys become close with? Um?
Speaker 1: I guess some of the guys that I became close
Speaker 1: with that I'm still friends with this Uh, some of
Speaker 1: the closer ones, would you know? I don't talk to
Speaker 1: him all the time. But the theory of it dead
Speaker 1: Man guys, is that right cool one to guys, that's
Speaker 1: a that's a rock band. Yeah, and they're a good
Speaker 1: bunch of dudes. Where they love now. I think they're
Speaker 1: all in Canada, so the Canadians they are like. I
Speaker 1: would listen to the Edge in Dallas. That's where I
Speaker 1: would hear three of the Dead Man. I would this
Speaker 1: is how dorky I was, right because I was really
Speaker 1: into the rocks. You know. It went from like, uh,
Speaker 1: I found nine Country in the nineties, and then the
Speaker 1: whole grunge movement for me was big because I grew
Speaker 1: up grungy anyway. And finally I just looked like those
Speaker 1: people because I was dirty kid anyway. But that was
Speaker 1: cool to be a dirty kid. And I was like, finally,
Speaker 1: somebody that's that looks like me. And so I listened
Speaker 1: to all that and that transitioned into kind of you
Speaker 1: guys this time, you know, the two thousand's, the early
Speaker 1: two thousands, and so I would have my friend get
Speaker 1: on the Edge in Dallas and take a cassette and
Speaker 1: just pit record play and tape an hour flip it
Speaker 1: tape an hour then mail it to me and I
Speaker 1: would listen to it back and I would hear you guys,
Speaker 1: and some of the rock songs that wouldn't go to
Speaker 1: pop but would just go to the edge, Theory of
Speaker 1: a Dead Man, and you go through all those all
Speaker 1: those bands like that, And that's what that reminds me of,
Speaker 1: is that time period cassettes, man, and sometimes even I
Speaker 1: would record songs. I don't know if you did this
Speaker 1: back in your hold doubt, I would. I would go record,
Speaker 1: play pause and then when the song that you like start,
Speaker 1: you take that pause off quick, and you hope to
Speaker 1: god the stupid DJ would talk over the intro. Yeah,
Speaker 1: even like okay, so top five and nine don't talk
Speaker 1: over the intro on posit? How many? How many singles
Speaker 1: on that first record? Four? So what's the last one
Speaker 1: that comes off? Be like that? Oh? If I can
Speaker 1: be like, was this on a movie too? It's on
Speaker 1: the soundtrack? It was. It was on the American Pie
Speaker 1: that's right. We didn't write it for it, but it
Speaker 1: wound up being on it. And actually we had to
Speaker 1: change the first lyrics of it because the first lyrics
Speaker 1: spans nice California. Well, that song takes place in Middle America,
Speaker 1: so I didn't like to mention of California, so we
Speaker 1: we changed it to spend his whole life being too young,
Speaker 1: live life, to send his dreams. And it's still around
Speaker 1: with the nickline. Instead of California being too young, is
Speaker 1: California being too young? That's syllable that that's the So
Speaker 1: did you change it for just the soundtrack like on
Speaker 1: the on the record it was it was California on
Speaker 1: the soundtrack. You have to go back in the studio
Speaker 1: and re record that and hopefully it sounds the same,
Speaker 1: like don't have a cold or something. It's hard to
Speaker 1: do that, man, it's hard to go and I mean
Speaker 1: you can use the same microphone, you could be in
Speaker 1: the same studio, same everything. It's hard to go back
Speaker 1: because I've tried. I have had to do it a
Speaker 1: little touch ups here and there, and it's hard to
Speaker 1: do it a couple of weeks later because my voice
Speaker 1: changes every day, you know, and especially when you're younger
Speaker 1: like that, and not from just your voice changing. But
Speaker 1: I didn't have as much control over it then, and
Speaker 1: it's hard to go back in there and and make
Speaker 1: it sound the same to where it just lines up
Speaker 1: with the rest of a of a take. You Now,
Speaker 1: when you say that's the first thing I thought is, wow,
Speaker 1: you had to change it. And from that's quite the
Speaker 1: time difference from when you record it for the first
Speaker 1: record and when this movie comes out. Four singles, that's
Speaker 1: what a year, year and a half. Yere about a
Speaker 1: year and a half a thing. So that first single, Kryptonite,
Speaker 1: you've got a couple of rockets. That fourth one goes
Speaker 1: back to pop and does it really well. I remember
Speaker 1: that playing that one like crazy. So you start with
Speaker 1: a bang and you end with a bang. Going into
Speaker 1: the second record, you gotta feel pretty good about yourself.
Speaker 1: It was that was It was amazing. It was amazing.
Speaker 1: I remember I literally remember being so mad one night
Speaker 1: and like at at my and R guy was like,
Speaker 1: why a will to sell eighty thousand records last week?
Speaker 1: That was like, man, this is bull crow last week?
Speaker 1: Yeah a random week. Wow, times have changed. My friend
Speaker 1: was like what or maybe it was like sixty thousand
Speaker 1: or something, but it was like ridiculous. It was some
Speaker 1: ridiculous amount of records and I was like what it
Speaker 1: gets so crazy? I was killing it now. Artists auld
Speaker 1: beg I think like Florida George lines like fifty last week,
Speaker 1: it was like the biggest I don't listen, times have
Speaker 1: changed to like the way that people get music. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: but okay. So the second record was that Away from
Speaker 1: the Sun. It was I don't even have notes on that,
Speaker 1: like I'm just going straight from from memory here Away
Speaker 1: from the Sun, like the black cover the sun kind
Speaker 1: of tell me if I'm wrong, like, um, like maybe
Speaker 1: like the moon's covering a little bit. There's like an
Speaker 1: outside like edge of the sun. Is that right? I'm
Speaker 1: so good at this. I'm good at And so first
Speaker 1: song off the record is Wife. The first single off
Speaker 1: of Away from the Sun was when I'm gone jam
Speaker 1: come on. I had to think about that, now, what
Speaker 1: this is the jam? Thats the jam too? Listen to this.
Speaker 1: Would you get nervous that a song was coming out
Speaker 1: of would you? At this time You're like, we're kind
Speaker 1: of feeling that, we feel like it's gonna do good,
Speaker 1: just put it out. I was nervous. I was why
Speaker 1: is that? Because it was the first one was so big.
Speaker 1: We had every chance in the world to fail, you know,
Speaker 1: because because at the same time, you know, we were
Speaker 1: never we were never like the cool band. You know,
Speaker 1: It's like we never got like coverage of this band
Speaker 1: or this band, because it was always you know, things
Speaker 1: that tend to follow the trendy bands, you know what,
Speaker 1: so many, so many of those musement movements of music
Speaker 1: just like that just spike up. And you know, it
Speaker 1: was like, is it gonna work amongst all that? And
Speaker 1: and and it would, but I think I got nervous
Speaker 1: every time. Was there ever resentment that you guys didn't
Speaker 1: get the coverage? And did you ever go is it
Speaker 1: because we're from super South? Is it because I mean
Speaker 1: I resented it? And I mean and you know, because
Speaker 1: even really, you know, they wanted us to kind of
Speaker 1: separate ourselves from being so Southern. And I mean you
Speaker 1: can hear the way I talk. I've tried not to
Speaker 1: for a little while, and I just couldn't help it,
Speaker 1: you know, and and uh, and you know, I guess
Speaker 1: they associated with being kind of stupid or whatever. Then
Speaker 1: especially you know, it's like because there were no Southern
Speaker 1: bands out and Hatton been for a long time. You know,
Speaker 1: I think the last Southern bands out before us, there
Speaker 1: was a rock band. And you know, how does that
Speaker 1: conversation go where they go, And is it a conversation
Speaker 1: where they say, hey, like we need you to be
Speaker 1: a little more California, a little more you know not,
Speaker 1: because again it's another Southern guy right in front of
Speaker 1: you asking this question. Because when I started in radio
Speaker 1: and they were like, he if you're gonna do pop
Speaker 1: an epop, you have to lose rags in a little bit.
Speaker 1: So that conversation has had to me. And I did
Speaker 1: a bit, and now I've kind of got back to
Speaker 1: you know, I sound a bit like I sounded growing up.
Speaker 1: But was that conversation had with you, Like, guys, you
Speaker 1: gotta chill out a little bit on the in the Mississippi?
Speaker 1: They did, and they sent this to a voice coach
Speaker 1: for a couple of sessions and just to help us
Speaker 1: like like me, which you know, a new proper grammar.
Speaker 1: I just don't like to use it, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. And but I did. I tried to lose
Speaker 1: it for a little while. And I mean, and it's
Speaker 1: not as thick as it was when I started, man,
Speaker 1: that was it was. I probably could have managed to
Speaker 1: shave a little bit of at all of these are
Speaker 1: people surprised sometimes I think your accident is when you
Speaker 1: do talk, they are because you don't really hear it
Speaker 1: in the music. But again, you don't really hear the
Speaker 1: Spice girls being British and most of the stuff they
Speaker 1: sing either I know or it bows me away. Like
Speaker 1: you you've seen this actor in four or five movies
Speaker 1: and then you see him excepting an award or something.
Speaker 1: It's like, what the guy walking Dead kills me. He's
Speaker 1: off the show now. But the main guy, Rick Grimes,
Speaker 1: he would say he's on the show. He's like from
Speaker 1: Atlanta and he talks and he's like Rick Grimes and
Speaker 1: then he's on the awards show is going it my
Speaker 1: thanks for the award. I'm like, what is happening right now?
Speaker 1: Like I don't want to hear this. You're running everything
Speaker 1: I know about this guy. I pictured him in the
Speaker 1: Grinds in Atlanta, not this kangaroo guy. So you keep
Speaker 1: making heads, but you're probably not getting the respect that
Speaker 1: you just you feel like you deserve in the mainstream.
Speaker 1: Like that would that would irritate me. It was a
Speaker 1: little irritating, but um, but then you know, I guess,
Speaker 1: But then you go home and forget about it. You know,
Speaker 1: because you're amongst your friends and and they're glad that you.
Speaker 1: I always just thought it was more important to stay
Speaker 1: me than it was to be who they wanted me
Speaker 1: to be, because you know, I think for my mom daddy,
Speaker 1: you know, they were always encouraging to me and and
Speaker 1: just let me do my thing. You know, they didn't
Speaker 1: force me to do it, but they didn't keep me
Speaker 1: from doing it. But you know, my mom just always
Speaker 1: your mind's like, Brad, that won't always be there son,
Speaker 1: you know, And it's always kept that in my mind
Speaker 1: that this will you know, who I am will always
Speaker 1: be here, but that won't always be there. So I
Speaker 1: just kind of got to where I just took it
Speaker 1: with a grain of salt and I just am who
Speaker 1: I am, you know. And how is the relationship between
Speaker 1: the band as you guys started to skyrocket with the
Speaker 1: songs doing so well, getting better, getting worse worse? Really
Speaker 1: it did, because honestly, I mean we all got out there,
Speaker 1: party in and like one of us was, all of
Speaker 1: us drink a good bit, but like one of us was,
Speaker 1: it wasn't that we didn't get along, our drugs didn't
Speaker 1: get along because one person was on this and one
Speaker 1: person was on this, one person was on this, and
Speaker 1: and and by our third record, we all had our
Speaker 1: own buses. It was four five guys in the band
Speaker 1: um and four four band busses and then all the
Speaker 1: crew busses. So we were rolling around with seven busses
Speaker 1: because the four main band guys just hated each other.
Speaker 1: So how does that dynamic work when you have to
Speaker 1: work on things and when you have to get on
Speaker 1: stage and be a collective. It that got to where
Speaker 1: it was like the only time that we've seen each
Speaker 1: other with sound check and on stage, and you know,
Speaker 1: we were playing amphitheaters and stuff. You keep a pretty
Speaker 1: consistent sound, so we'd get a sound established and we
Speaker 1: wouldn't even do sound check. I wouldn't see some of
Speaker 1: those see the guys until it was you know, if
Speaker 1: we played at nine, I'd see M and eight thirty
Speaker 1: we were in the addressing room and putting years on
Speaker 1: and it was just all right, you guys ready, And
Speaker 1: then you go out and play and rocket show and
Speaker 1: everybody thinks that you're the best friends ever because you
Speaker 1: used to be and you look like you I mean,
Speaker 1: you go out and you you're you're a rock band.
Speaker 1: You're rocking, people think you're rocking as brothers. When does
Speaker 1: it get better? Um? Or does it? It's it's sort
Speaker 1: of didn't man. I mean, you know, I'm the There
Speaker 1: was three of us to start, and I'm one that's here,
Speaker 1: you know, and and one Frankly is in prison and
Speaker 1: one's dead and both there's a result of drugs, man.
Speaker 1: And you know, and Chris, Chris was not one of
Speaker 1: the original guys, but he was in the band when
Speaker 1: we got signed. And I think I for him because
Speaker 1: he got clean. You know, he was on toe completely different.
Speaker 1: My thing was just always drinking and I drink profusely,
Speaker 1: and uh, he he did a lot of different other
Speaker 1: other things, but uh, he got clean. And my drummer,
Speaker 1: Greg up Church, he's been a drummer for he became.
Speaker 1: He used to play for Puddle of Mud. And when
Speaker 1: Daniel left and went to Nickelback. Um, that was right
Speaker 1: after we had done a tour that was nickel Back
Speaker 1: three doors down in Puddle of Mud, and Daniel went
Speaker 1: to Nickelback. Greg came with us and in Greg' from
Speaker 1: Oklahoma and uh and Greg drink like a fish too. Um.
Speaker 1: And it got to where, you know, Chris Bye, not
Speaker 1: so General Persuasion, went to went to rehab and he
Speaker 1: got clean and somehow, and it's a testament to his sobriety,
Speaker 1: stayed sober with us still partying like mad men. And
Speaker 1: then a few years later, Greg about not so General Persuasion,
Speaker 1: went to rehab and he got clean from just from drinking.
Speaker 1: And man, I started seeing those guys and I was
Speaker 1: still I knew that, I knew that I needed to
Speaker 1: to change, and but you know, I started seeing what
Speaker 1: those guys had, and you know, you see them over
Speaker 1: there and they're happy, and I'm still here miserable. And
Speaker 1: I think I for a man because seeing them like
Speaker 1: that and through their encouragement, you know, they were They
Speaker 1: never pushed it on me, but I was like, I
Speaker 1: have to and they got to be where I could trace.
Speaker 1: I was ruining my life. There was no big tragedy
Speaker 1: or no catastrophe or anything, but I was putting my
Speaker 1: wife through hell. I was putting everybody I knew through
Speaker 1: hell and putting myself through hell. And I was seen
Speaker 1: around me and I was like, I have to change.
Speaker 1: And I went to rehab, and it's the best thing
Speaker 1: I ever done, because I wanted to get sober, but
Speaker 1: I didn't know how. And I went out there and
Speaker 1: they taught me how how to deal with my problems.
Speaker 1: Because people don't have drug addictions, they have life problems.
Speaker 1: And they you know, they don't have drug problems, whether
Speaker 1: they have life problems. And they sidestepped there the facing
Speaker 1: their problems. They sided step them and use drugs. And
Speaker 1: that's what I was doing. And and and I just
Speaker 1: had to learn how to and I had to miss
Speaker 1: in the gross misconception of what rehab was. I thought that,
Speaker 1: you know, like you're going to a hospital and they
Speaker 1: stepped you down, and like you're gonna sit here and
Speaker 1: do you sober. But I just went out there and
Speaker 1: they it was like going to college to learn how
Speaker 1: to be sober. And it was awesome and it was
Speaker 1: the best thing I've ever done. And it ain't like
Speaker 1: you come out in your life's perfect, but it's sure
Speaker 1: started to get a lot better. And and beans that
Speaker 1: I was sober, and two other guys we were sober
Speaker 1: in the band. The other two guys who didn't really
Speaker 1: have a problems anyway, they might casually drink a little bit.
Speaker 1: We all got sober and it was like being in
Speaker 1: a different band. Man, I was. That's why I said,
Speaker 1: we should could have always been like that, because we
Speaker 1: go out there now and we didn't. We generally we
Speaker 1: h h during our last summer to where we were
Speaker 1: out and we uh, we were coming somewhere. We're going
Speaker 1: from point A to point B and we were in there,
Speaker 1: like five miles of arches National Parks. We got off
Speaker 1: the bus and everybody went walked around the park together.
Speaker 1: I was like, I cannot believe it. I've been in
Speaker 1: this band for twenty years and this is the first
Speaker 1: one of the first times I can. I could look
Speaker 1: around and I was standing in the National Park with
Speaker 1: all five band members in it, and I was like, man,
Speaker 1: when you took that in, I wish you could have
Speaker 1: always been like that. You know what's funny is you
Speaker 1: talk about these guys are not being put in um
Speaker 1: with gentle persuasion like my So I'll give you a a
Speaker 1: quick backstory before I tell you the question. I appened
Speaker 1: my mom died in authorities from drinking and drugs because
Speaker 1: then I put into rehab a couple of times, and
Speaker 1: she never wanted to be in rehab, so rehab never
Speaker 1: worked for her. If that makes sense. Like when you
Speaker 1: say they didn't want to go, I go, man, because
Speaker 1: you have to embrace that. Really do they to hear
Speaker 1: that they didn't want to go and it still worked
Speaker 1: for them? It's pretty amazing, it really is. It's it
Speaker 1: really is. It was a miracle. It was a miracle
Speaker 1: because Crystal tell you, I mean, it's not it's not
Speaker 1: a secret. And and we we're not and you know,
Speaker 1: we're not ashamed of where we've been or and how
Speaker 1: we got to where we are. And he'll tell you
Speaker 1: that he was bad and I was bad, just on
Speaker 1: a different on a different kid, you know. And and
Speaker 1: when he when he had to go, it was he
Speaker 1: had to go. I mean he had to go and
Speaker 1: and and I think when he got there, he like
Speaker 1: realized it's like okay, it's I think he realized it's like, okay,
Speaker 1: it's this or death. It was that that close. Was
Speaker 1: it was that much of a problem. Was do you
Speaker 1: do the thing? Because so I've never had drink of
Speaker 1: alcohol because I like, I see my mom died from it.
Speaker 1: I don't know my real dad because an alcohol Like
Speaker 1: I have a lot of family problems with this. I
Speaker 1: was early on I was like, I'm not gonna have
Speaker 1: this happen to me. But what happens is people will
Speaker 1: treat me different, even though I'm let everybody drink around
Speaker 1: me like I'm good. But I have to face. I
Speaker 1: was out a couple of nights ago and I was
Speaker 1: meeting up with a friend, new friend, and I have
Speaker 1: to get there early and order something that looks like
Speaker 1: a drink, or people treat me completely. They'll go, you
Speaker 1: know what if you're not drinking, and I'm like, no, no,
Speaker 1: just beat yourself. I want to do you have those
Speaker 1: alun whe people who go, oh, he's sober. Now we
Speaker 1: have to act different? And do you want them to
Speaker 1: act different? Do you need them to act different? Do you?
Speaker 1: And do you feel like sometimes you have to kind
Speaker 1: of go guys, it's good, yeah, because I do all
Speaker 1: the time. I was read a thing on it was
Speaker 1: a postal Instagram not longer. It's it said is that
Speaker 1: follow a few recovery pages and stuff on there, and
Speaker 1: one of them it said it said, uh, alcohol is
Speaker 1: the only drug you have two justified not doing? Oh? Yeah, true,
Speaker 1: you're right, because it's it's such a social such a
Speaker 1: social drug, you know that. Yeah, that's wild. You're like,
Speaker 1: why don't you Why don't you drink? And it's like,
Speaker 1: because I do, because I'm allergic to it. That's what
Speaker 1: I just tell I'm allergic to alcohol. You know that's crazy.
Speaker 1: And listen, that's a great story. I didn't even I
Speaker 1: wasn't gonna spear off into that. But I'm comfortable talking
Speaker 1: about my story and it's great to hear somebody else
Speaker 1: that that is the same. Um, well, let's talk about
Speaker 1: here without you, because this is the second of where.
Speaker 1: This is where we are in the live I'm for
Speaker 1: freaking three doors down and this one this is it.
Speaker 1: This is the train. This is the train that really
Speaker 1: like cements you guys as we are for real here
Speaker 1: it is. Did you know this was the song? Did
Speaker 1: you feel it? Um? You know it's it's kind of weird.
Speaker 1: I had to fight for the song to be on
Speaker 1: the record, and not against the record company or anybody,
Speaker 1: but against my guitar but not Chris Matt, my first
Speaker 1: guitar player, the woman that passed away. He fought me
Speaker 1: tooth and nail about putting this song on the record.
Speaker 1: He did not want He's like man, because he thought
Speaker 1: it was he thought it was cc like a ballad
Speaker 1: because it's like a it's a love song. No love
Speaker 1: songs for three Doors Down, no ballads. He did not
Speaker 1: want it. They're kind of stup. Come on, listen to this.
Speaker 1: Did you know immediately when it was released that it
Speaker 1: was well received, that the record company had a lot
Speaker 1: of I think had more faith in that than we did,
Speaker 1: because I was a little leary of it too, because
Speaker 1: of people saying your close stock going I don't know,
Speaker 1: I don't know, and you know, and I think, what's
Speaker 1: a what's a good gauge for me? This wound up
Speaker 1: being our biggest song. And and I say that in
Speaker 1: the modern sense, I guess because I use YouTube as
Speaker 1: a gauge. Um, because you know, being were universal artists,
Speaker 1: they have what is it, uh uh vimo, Vivo Vivo.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, um, they have Vivo. So they took all
Speaker 1: the universal catalog awfu of YouTube and they put it
Speaker 1: all back on it once. So even though Kryptonite came
Speaker 1: out a few years before Here Without You, or a
Speaker 1: couple of years before Hit About You, they both got
Speaker 1: a reboot and start over on the same day. And
Speaker 1: I think Kryptonite has like two hundred something million views
Speaker 1: on there. Here Without You has four hundred eighty nine
Speaker 1: million views. I was like, well was that I have
Speaker 1: a billion views? So I was like, what did That's
Speaker 1: crazy and it's still going. I mean, you can look
Speaker 1: on there now and I'll bet there's a comment from
Speaker 1: like three hours ago. That's crazy. And that digital you know,
Speaker 1: and that's how you get paid now, those digital plays.
Speaker 1: There's that's money. That's crazy. It really is, um And
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm just incredibly thankful for it. Man I
Speaker 1: I can't. I'm I think I'm just thankful for it.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you whenever um like Away from the Sun,
Speaker 1: I love that one. You like this again, slow ish
Speaker 1: Away from the Sun. I was like, man, I can't
Speaker 1: say any of the songs on the shower. I'm pretty good, Brad.
Speaker 1: I can see something's really good in the shower, but
Speaker 1: you have to hear me there. It's probably not a
Speaker 1: place for us to go. But like this was a
Speaker 1: jam too, Like that is my song. Yeah, if there's
Speaker 1: never been a song, and I still feel it sometimes,
Speaker 1: I mean, but I tell you know, when I'm telling
Speaker 1: the story of the acoustic shows, you know, if there's
Speaker 1: one song that I had to choose to represent me.
Speaker 1: This is this is why is that? I don't know,
Speaker 1: I just feel it, you know, And I think we
Speaker 1: can all. I think we all just feel like we're
Speaker 1: we're climbing a heel. You know. It's only video that
Speaker 1: I ever really had anything to do with, like conceptually
Speaker 1: and um. And it's just a kid who's actually my
Speaker 1: nephew plays the character in this video. And he'd never
Speaker 1: been in a in a video or anything. And we
Speaker 1: were talking about it and they were like, all right,
Speaker 1: we'll find a kid. And I was like, got it.
Speaker 1: Got him and he lives in the Mississippi lived in
Speaker 1: Mississippi at the time, so you got to him. My
Speaker 1: sister got to fly out to l a and and
Speaker 1: he had to be in a video and stuff. But
Speaker 1: he's done a great job. You watch the video was
Speaker 1: like dang and good. But and that's a kid. He's
Speaker 1: just bound with all these leather straps and he's found
Speaker 1: to these big stones. He's dragging up this hill and
Speaker 1: he'll get to go in and it shows different like
Speaker 1: images of mirages or things that he sees, like you know,
Speaker 1: people talking about him and being bullied, and those are
Speaker 1: the things that knocks him back down. And it shows
Speaker 1: his his father slapping back down and and uh and
Speaker 1: and it shows like an angel at one point kind
Speaker 1: of guiding him come on this way. And and I
Speaker 1: think we can all relate to that that we're all
Speaker 1: in some way climbing that hill that jam. I love
Speaker 1: that song, Thank you man. That's why I still listen
Speaker 1: to Thank You. You know, I don't I don't curse
Speaker 1: my personal life, and I definitely don't curse on stage,
Speaker 1: like I have my my shows to be completely clean. Um.
Speaker 1: And I know that's the same thing with you guys.
Speaker 1: Now do you do if the bands are opening for
Speaker 1: you have songs with curse words, you have that talk
Speaker 1: with them like, hey, we don't do that, or not
Speaker 1: we shy away from a band and if they get
Speaker 1: out there, you know it's one thing. It was the festival.
Speaker 1: You can't really say and and I don't speak perfectly
Speaker 1: in my private life, but do not cuss on stage.
Speaker 1: And and that also goes back to my mama told
Speaker 1: me I better not get out this. She's said to Brad.
Speaker 1: My mom has other baptist of the bones. She said
Speaker 1: to Brad, you gotta do comes on that stage. Don't
Speaker 1: be shamed of you. So I never did, and and
Speaker 1: and but you know it's worked out and people value
Speaker 1: that very very much because I can't tell you, you know,
Speaker 1: especially we're having songs about Superman and this and that.
Speaker 1: We have a lot of kids at our shows, and
Speaker 1: we still have a lot of kids at our shows.
Speaker 1: It's like just the next generation of them, which is
Speaker 1: freaking cool. It's the kids of the kids, yeah it is.
Speaker 1: And um and but I I've over the years had
Speaker 1: so many parents come up to me and said thank
Speaker 1: you for putting on the show that I can bring
Speaker 1: my kids too. And and you know, we really have
Speaker 1: tried over the years to kind of two I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, hey, man, come on, you know you can't.
Speaker 1: How do we hate to try to control an opening band.
Speaker 1: But they got out the humor volga or something. We
Speaker 1: definitely say something to them about it. Yeah, I will
Speaker 1: have that talk with my openers, like I'll bring music
Speaker 1: as because I'll when when I tour, I'll go and
Speaker 1: I'll do an hour set of stand up. But I
Speaker 1: kind of treat like a variety show. I have someone
Speaker 1: coming to open musically for me, and I have to
Speaker 1: talk like, hey, people, it's not a kid's show, but
Speaker 1: there may be some kids in the crowd, but people
Speaker 1: feel like this is safe space. Like don't get out
Speaker 1: there and be political, don't get out there and be
Speaker 1: dropping F bombs and S bombs. Like, just know that
Speaker 1: people feel like this is a spot for them to
Speaker 1: come and breathe and smile and taking a show. And
Speaker 1: there can be some kids. And if it's PT thirteen,
Speaker 1: that's all right, or if it's SpongeBob Escort you make
Speaker 1: a joke that's the only adults will get and kids
Speaker 1: really won't. That's okay too. But that's a you know,
Speaker 1: I do that, and people appreciate that because they don't
Speaker 1: have to come in and worry and sit and go
Speaker 1: all right, is this gonna be a place where one
Speaker 1: of the ways I'm gonna feel uncomfortable? I don't want that,
Speaker 1: And that's that's awesome that you do that too, man,
Speaker 1: because it's not a whole lot of that in the
Speaker 1: world right now. It's cool. I mean, it's better. It's
Speaker 1: better like that too. And and also that's quality. You know,
Speaker 1: you don't need that, you don't when you I don't
Speaker 1: feel like I need Like, yeah, I feel like, because
Speaker 1: you put on a quality show and you're entertaining, guy,
Speaker 1: you don't need that. I appreciate that. I don't know
Speaker 1: about that, exactly appreciated. I appreciate what you think about.
Speaker 1: I was listening to some of these bands talk about, like,
Speaker 1: imagine dragons, they're really big, but when you get so big,
Speaker 1: you start to get a lot of hate, and they
Speaker 1: imagine dragons A get a lot of hate from a
Speaker 1: lot of these quote unquote finger quote legit rock artists
Speaker 1: like Nickelback gets hate for their music. Wh how do
Speaker 1: you feel like, imagine dragons getting all this hate right now?
Speaker 1: I didn't know that they were. Who are the bands,
Speaker 1: Mike that are like out ripping imagineaty slip not it's
Speaker 1: pretty big on ripping them slip now. They're like, you're
Speaker 1: not real rock? What even is real when it comes
Speaker 1: to art? I mean, those guys real monsters, right the
Speaker 1: mask on stage? You're right about that? When you did
Speaker 1: you guys ever start feeling that hate because you've got
Speaker 1: so big? Did um from from? It was? It was
Speaker 1: like those little movement bands, and it was from bands
Speaker 1: like some forty one and then those I like, I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't mean to stick as they say, spelled the tea,
Speaker 1: who is it? I mean, it's just all those like,
Speaker 1: you know, those those movement bands, the punk bands that
Speaker 1: come through and then this little movement comes, you know,
Speaker 1: and we were we were never like the cool guys. Um.
Speaker 1: But at the same time, it's like we've done a
Speaker 1: lot of the stuff that we've done sort of under
Speaker 1: the radar, you know, because we were never like big
Speaker 1: enough that that We've got a lot of hate. You know,
Speaker 1: I would say that you guys are one of the
Speaker 1: most underrated bands in my lifetime because of the amount
Speaker 1: of hits you have, and people unfair they don't put
Speaker 1: you in that conversation of the sounds that changed other
Speaker 1: and influenced other sounds, because again we we don't even
Speaker 1: play all your hits. I just would have like nine
Speaker 1: ten humongous songs. Here we're talking about humongous songs that
Speaker 1: crossed the genres. And you know, I feel like you
Speaker 1: guys are super underrated. Would you think that three Doors
Speaker 1: Down an unrety band. It's hard, it's hard to be
Speaker 1: humble and say yes, But I wonder, I wonder what
Speaker 1: you say, Um, we never got a lot of attention.
Speaker 1: But but it's okay, I'm cool with it. Wouldn't not me.
Speaker 1: I'm too competitive because I always felt sorry, you know,
Speaker 1: like just's just say like it's easy to easy to say,
Speaker 1: Like Britney Spears always felt sorry for her man living
Speaker 1: under that microscope. It would drive me crazy too. I
Speaker 1: know she had like her little episode and stuff, but
Speaker 1: I mean, when there's constantly I can't imagine walking out
Speaker 1: of every restaurant, heavy establishment, everywhere that I went, somebody
Speaker 1: standing there with the camera or something. Are always wanting
Speaker 1: to just living under the microscopes. I never always used
Speaker 1: to say, men, I love being a radio band because
Speaker 1: everybody knows their songs. They don't know what I look like,
Speaker 1: and so I can sell a bunch of racers, but
Speaker 1: I can see go to Walmart. That's funny you mentioned
Speaker 1: Walmart because I was talking to a friend of mine
Speaker 1: who lives in Boston. I was like, growing up, we
Speaker 1: used to hang out of Walmart. Like you go to Walmart,
Speaker 1: you know, you're in the parking lot, or you're in
Speaker 1: Walmart or Sonic like in the South, that's where you
Speaker 1: hang out. And he was like Walmart. I was like yeah,
Speaker 1: and like we used to go and hang out the
Speaker 1: jets of Belle Walmart, Like, all right, Friday night, we'll
Speaker 1: go and quote cruise, you know, you drive around this
Speaker 1: little square and then we'll just end up at the Walmart.
Speaker 1: And you know, it's funny that you would say that,
Speaker 1: because that's that's totally a Southern thing to like to
Speaker 1: hang out of Walmart. That's funny, man. So but did
Speaker 1: they ever do the thing with you guys where they go, hey,
Speaker 1: you should like they had another celebrity, because if you
Speaker 1: do that, they can raise the image of the band.
Speaker 1: They ever did that with you guys? You know I
Speaker 1: would have been like, Brad, there's Christina Aguilera. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: set you up right now. Do you ever think about
Speaker 1: moving to Los Angeles? Did you move to Los Angeles?
Speaker 1: Not only only while we were making a record? How
Speaker 1: they there for like a month? They ever say in
Speaker 1: the movie need to get where the action is and
Speaker 1: live there to be a part of it. Not so much.
Speaker 1: I think they kind of wanted us to move to
Speaker 1: New York for like a little bit, and I was like, uh,
Speaker 1: what was up with that? But why do they think
Speaker 1: that was a good idea? Just to be in being
Speaker 1: just like amongst the label and just being amongst the
Speaker 1: business and everything. Um, but I just I couldn't do it, man,
Speaker 1: I am I am a country mouse. I can't do it.
Speaker 1: What's home life for you? Like now, we live on
Speaker 1: a farm out in Murphysborough. My wife, Barrol, racist horses,
Speaker 1: and we have six horses at our house. We got
Speaker 1: a fifty acre farm, which I never thought i'd have
Speaker 1: much that much land. And it's kind of out in
Speaker 1: the country, but it's at the same time, I got
Speaker 1: a grocery store like six miles from the house, and
Speaker 1: and it's not fancy, but it's it's my heaven. And
Speaker 1: I will get there and if we have stuff to eat,
Speaker 1: and I'll go home and the gate closes behind me
Speaker 1: and I won't leave for three or four days. As
Speaker 1: we do. I assume you have help. We have. My
Speaker 1: my friend comes and feeds horses when we're out of
Speaker 1: town or something if I'm gone. And I have some
Speaker 1: guys that cut part of the yard, but just because
Speaker 1: I don't have enough time to cut it all, they
Speaker 1: probably cut like because I have to mow it all
Speaker 1: because some of us back in the woods and some
Speaker 1: of it like the horse pastures may only cut a
Speaker 1: couple of times, maybe once a month, just to kind
Speaker 1: of knock them, knock the tops off, um, because they
Speaker 1: won't eat it once it gets a certain height. They
Speaker 1: have their we have phenicky horses. They're spoiled. But there
Speaker 1: are kids. Um, but you know that, right. Um. So
Speaker 1: they cut probably ten acres and I cut the pastures
Speaker 1: and we do it all ourselves. When when I leave here,
Speaker 1: I'm going home to clean horse steals. And you're smiling
Speaker 1: as you say it, like it's like you love it.
Speaker 1: I like they're my babies though, because we don't have kids.
Speaker 1: Our horses are kids. And and and now I say,
Speaker 1: I'll smile about it here, I'll run about it, but
Speaker 1: I'm standing here doing it. But you know, there are
Speaker 1: a lot of times when I'm busy and just kind
Speaker 1: of going and going and going back. Man, I would
Speaker 1: love to be standing on in my barn right now.
Speaker 1: And it's just I mean it's peaceful, you know. And
Speaker 1: you get to do both. You get to be alone
Speaker 1: on your property and then you get to go and
Speaker 1: play shows and still have that lifestyle too and sing
Speaker 1: your songs. It's a blessing. And how often are you
Speaker 1: guys on the road right now? Oh? We go right
Speaker 1: now like every other weekend, and I have shows this
Speaker 1: weekend and next weekend, and we have a a little
Speaker 1: more coming up later on in the summer, and then
Speaker 1: next year will be the twentieth anniversary of The Better Life,
Speaker 1: and we're gonna do like a full world world tour
Speaker 1: on that one. Is that right? Is? That'll be fun
Speaker 1: and but I look forward to it. But I'm not
Speaker 1: twenty one years already anymore. Do you ever think about,
Speaker 1: because you know, the big thing with and not for me,
Speaker 1: but the big thing with a lot of people that
Speaker 1: go in country music, they're like, what that any country
Speaker 1: like yours country? As it gets? Do you ever think
Speaker 1: about doing a country song and country record? I've been
Speaker 1: writing some lately, and I wrote about half of a
Speaker 1: country record one time. But honestly, I took it in in.
Speaker 1: I was talking to some record guys about it, and
Speaker 1: it's like sale, I said, why, They said, because it's
Speaker 1: because it's like it's really country in the two countries.
Speaker 1: Like help, what'd you listen to growing up? Um? I was.
Speaker 1: I'm the youngest seven kids, so I grew up listening
Speaker 1: to whatever My brother's sisters listened to when I was
Speaker 1: a kid. My favorite band growing up was bon Jovi,
Speaker 1: and I grew up on the eighties rock and I
Speaker 1: loved it and loved it and and honestly, when when
Speaker 1: Nirvana and Stuff came out, I kind of fell off
Speaker 1: of it. I wasn't ready for it. I was too
Speaker 1: young for it, I think or something. And I listened
Speaker 1: to probably more country growing up than like my all
Speaker 1: time favorite songs the dance from Garthen Oh Yeah, I
Speaker 1: love it? You ever meet Garth? I never had the
Speaker 1: best You'd love him? Hiss a trust heater? What was
Speaker 1: up here? A few days ago? And I got a chance.
Speaker 1: I got to know Garth. A love that Garth played.
Speaker 1: You know the show you played with this this year.
Speaker 1: I think you played with us the year before. I
Speaker 1: know it's awesome. I love Garth Brooks. I would love
Speaker 1: to meet him. He's and he's a He's a guy
Speaker 1: too that you know. I've I've learned a bit from
Speaker 1: when like with people like Garth, Brust walks into a
Speaker 1: room and every single person doesn't matter who you are,
Speaker 1: it gets the same attention. And Garth looks you in
Speaker 1: the eye and he spends time and when Garth leaves,
Speaker 1: you go. That was amazing. Yeah, And I think Taylor
Speaker 1: Swift learned from Garth and I'm just trying to get
Speaker 1: his crumbles and like I just want to learn, you know,
Speaker 1: did anyone to take kind of take you under the
Speaker 1: wing a bit or at least go, Brad, this is
Speaker 1: what's gonna have Like other artists who would be like,
Speaker 1: this is what you gotta do or was that kind
Speaker 1: of not cool? Then I never knew a whole lot
Speaker 1: of them. I never knew like a ton of artists. Um,
Speaker 1: but I guess the people that you meet along the
Speaker 1: way do do kind of let you, let you uh,
Speaker 1: let you have some info. And but you know, we
Speaker 1: had the opportunity of there earlier in our career to
Speaker 1: to work with Alex Lisson. He produced a couple of
Speaker 1: be size fortune and guitar player for Ruish and and
Speaker 1: he had some pretty interesting conversations with him, and he's
Speaker 1: a great, great guy. And um, you know, I think
Speaker 1: what meant more to me than anything was I was
Speaker 1: very fortunate to meet like you say that that Garth
Speaker 1: comes into the room and he's like everybody gets attention,
Speaker 1: and he's a he's like a real person. And I
Speaker 1: was very fortunate to be around some just for moments
Speaker 1: here and they're like really famous people like that, and
Speaker 1: see that, just get a chance to see that. Wow,
Speaker 1: it's just he's just a dude. Dude, Yeah, just a
Speaker 1: freaking dude. Fans make us who we are. Man, I'm
Speaker 1: just the before my my when I got signed, I
Speaker 1: drove a forklift, and before that, I drove a bush
Speaker 1: halt tractor, I mowed tank fields. And I'm I'm so
Speaker 1: thankful I get to play in a rock band for
Speaker 1: a living. Just humans. Yeah, it's crazy that it's other
Speaker 1: people that make other people like Garth. It is just
Speaker 1: a good dude who has a skill at being Somebody
Speaker 1: else may have a skill like a brain surgeon, you know,
Speaker 1: at learning how how math works. They don't get that
Speaker 1: because people don't make a that. Imagine a math if
Speaker 1: in America, if people that did good math were celebrities
Speaker 1: or count wuld be way ahead of China. They're taking
Speaker 1: our butts right now exactly because we need we need,
Speaker 1: like we need to start a movement to make mathematicians cool.
Speaker 1: Get us out and get us up and out of there.
Speaker 1: Way so you do you drove folk? Left? Word? You
Speaker 1: do that? At down in Passacola, Mississippi Electric Motor Shop,
Speaker 1: I've cleaned like electric motor we rebuilt electric motors and
Speaker 1: things like that, and and us I clean parts and
Speaker 1: and be blast them and stuff like that. But mainly
Speaker 1: probably drove more than anything. Could you hop back on
Speaker 1: one right now and feel like a bike? You could?
Speaker 1: I have two jackets at home and that stay on
Speaker 1: all the time. Let me ask you a simple one.
Speaker 1: Where did the name come from? Three doors down? Um?
Speaker 1: It came off of an old boarded up building on
Speaker 1: us actually um we um. We used to get down
Speaker 1: to Gulf Shores a lot and which is like the
Speaker 1: beachs down in Alabama, but pretty close to where we
Speaker 1: grew up. And driving down there you went through, uh
Speaker 1: a little town that was just full of fruit stands.
Speaker 1: And there would be several of those fruit stands in
Speaker 1: one building. And we had a gig, like our first
Speaker 1: show that night coming back and we didn't have a name,
Speaker 1: and we had like a notebook full of names. And
Speaker 1: one of those buildings had closed up and moved just
Speaker 1: a couple of parcels down and there was like tech
Speaker 1: on wooden letters. It said, you know, business move like
Speaker 1: so many doors down and somebody falling off or whatever.
Speaker 1: And there was three of us at the time, and
Speaker 1: and Todd said, well what about three doors down? And
Speaker 1: we're like all right, and it just kind of stuck.
Speaker 1: So like the first real name you came up with,
Speaker 1: you kept, well, that's odd. Most bands are like, well,
Speaker 1: our first name was the Wiener Jumpers, but we didn't
Speaker 1: like that, so then we just had to go with
Speaker 1: the Tonell Kids, and we didn't like that. Next thing,
Speaker 1: you know, here we are you too, were like that
Speaker 1: was weird, But that's the first name. You guys had
Speaker 1: first name, and it's the only band I've ever been in.
Speaker 1: I've never been in another band. And you wrote too
Speaker 1: songs in high school and look at you. You're like happy, man,
Speaker 1: I'm telling you bless because I am. I have not
Speaker 1: that talented, still so inferior at the same age, and
Speaker 1: you're like, how to rock star live? Man? I got you. Well,
Speaker 1: I'm a fan. I'm a genuine fan. I appreciate it. Man,
Speaker 1: that's you don't be that al right, Episode one sixty five.
Speaker 1: This has been fun for me. Help. This is what
Speaker 1: we did an hour we're an hour into this thing. Dang,
Speaker 1: look at us. So we're just talking away. We weren't
Speaker 1: even recording now we'll start now just me talking like
Speaker 1: asking questions. Um, this is an episode one sixty five.
Speaker 1: If people want to see because you're not now doing shows. Um,
Speaker 1: you have all the dates on on your website. We do. Okay,
Speaker 1: so three Doors down dot com. Okay, so head over
Speaker 1: to three Doors down dot com. You're not doing Are
Speaker 1: you doing acoustic shows? Now? We are. We might have
Speaker 1: a couple of acoustic shows left. We're about to get
Speaker 1: in back into the electric shows. How do you feel
Speaker 1: about that? I'm ready? Yeah, I like. I like playing
Speaker 1: acoustic shows a lot because it gives you an opportunity
Speaker 1: to stand up there and like perform the songs and um,
Speaker 1: and like tell the stories about it and stuff, you know.
Speaker 1: But at the same time, it's like standing there and
Speaker 1: you're into weird because there's nothing to hide behind. There's
Speaker 1: no like, you know, you kind of flood it a
Speaker 1: little bit if you if your throat's hurting or something,
Speaker 1: and you know it's real loud in the rock show,
Speaker 1: it's like, ah, they'd be fine acuty shows. Man, you're
Speaker 1: if you're there. Um, so I'm ready to get back
Speaker 1: out there and placing rocks shows. I'm ready to run
Speaker 1: around a little bit. We got the whole uh the
Speaker 1: tour years twenty five years, said twenty years. So does
Speaker 1: that mean you're gonna put any into new music? Are
Speaker 1: you guys thinking about? We're gonna where we're gonna rerelease
Speaker 1: The Better Life and I think maybe remaster it, and
Speaker 1: we're gonna package it along with that first CD because
Speaker 1: of our first CD that got us signed had about
Speaker 1: half the songs that was wound up on A Better
Speaker 1: Life but a different recording of them, and then some
Speaker 1: other songs that that had just never been released. Um.
Speaker 1: So we're gonna package it with that our first local
Speaker 1: CD because we only ever made two thousand of them, um,
Speaker 1: and just put that out, just kind of put it
Speaker 1: out there. And we do need to we do need
Speaker 1: to write some more songs and and put out another record.
Speaker 1: But at the same time, somebody asked me the other day,
Speaker 1: I was at a at an event here and and
Speaker 1: guys like you guys, you guys reach out and I
Speaker 1: was like, no, man, we still play a lot. He said. Uh.
Speaker 1: He said, well, y'all gonna put out some new records.
Speaker 1: And I said it jokingly, and it is a good
Speaker 1: problem to head. I was like, we're not really worried
Speaker 1: about He's like, well, why not, I said, because we
Speaker 1: already can't play all our right now, what a problem, right,
Speaker 1: it's a good problem to have. Look at this. There
Speaker 1: he is Brad Arnold with three doors down. Go watch
Speaker 1: him live Episode one. Good to see you, my friends.
Speaker 1: All right, that's it, Thank you very much.