1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: All right, welcome to episode one sixty five of the 2 00:00:03,320 --> 00:00:05,640 Speaker 1: Bobby Cast. This is an exciting one for me because 3 00:00:05,640 --> 00:00:08,399 Speaker 1: it's Brad Arnold from Three Doors Down. Glad to have you, man, 4 00:00:08,480 --> 00:00:10,160 Speaker 1: Thank you for having men. I'm glad to be here. 5 00:00:10,440 --> 00:00:12,879 Speaker 1: I'm such a fan of Three Doors Down because how 6 00:00:12,880 --> 00:00:15,760 Speaker 1: old a guy are you? I am about the same 7 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:20,120 Speaker 1: age you were, So you were were the same age basically, right. 8 00:00:20,280 --> 00:00:22,680 Speaker 1: You were so big and I was like an idiot 9 00:00:22,720 --> 00:00:25,000 Speaker 1: on the radio and Hot Springs, Arkansas, and you were 10 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:27,960 Speaker 1: like all over the world. I felt so so small now, man. 11 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:31,960 Speaker 1: We did start young. I started touring when I was twenty. 12 00:00:32,360 --> 00:00:36,279 Speaker 1: I just turned twenty one, and it was you know, 13 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:39,479 Speaker 1: they say like youth is wasted on the young. So 14 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:41,960 Speaker 1: it's touring because I think I would have enjoyed it 15 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:45,559 Speaker 1: so much more now in the mindset that I'm in 16 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:48,360 Speaker 1: in my life and just the place that I am, 17 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:51,279 Speaker 1: than I did then, because you know, you get out 18 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:54,040 Speaker 1: there and you're young and you start touring, and it's 19 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 1: that's a lot to handle hand a twenty one year old, 20 00:00:56,920 --> 00:00:59,760 Speaker 1: you know, and it's basically you know, just to here's 21 00:00:59,800 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 1: the I used to tell people, it's like having a backstage, 22 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:06,280 Speaker 1: passed to life and eat out there and and I 23 00:01:06,360 --> 00:01:08,119 Speaker 1: was an idiot, and I didn't you know, I didn't 24 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:09,920 Speaker 1: do a lot of things, but I was just I 25 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:11,760 Speaker 1: guess my main thing that I got out, I just 26 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:13,959 Speaker 1: got out and drank so much and things like that. 27 00:01:14,080 --> 00:01:18,679 Speaker 1: And and um, I've been without alcohol, been alcohol free 28 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 1: for a little over three years. As I wish, man 29 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:24,039 Speaker 1: I could just take that and apply to my whole career, 30 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 1: I would have enjoyed it so much more. I think 31 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 1: I saw you guys probably five times, you know, all 32 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:32,600 Speaker 1: through my years. Um, And so for me, I think 33 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:34,039 Speaker 1: the last time I saw you guys was you guys 34 00:01:34,080 --> 00:01:37,080 Speaker 1: in Fuel. You guys were playing together. But I've bet 35 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:38,520 Speaker 1: a lot of those bands, did you guys kind of 36 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:40,360 Speaker 1: cross paths and tool randomly with a lot of those 37 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:42,759 Speaker 1: guys kind of in that same class and when when 38 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:46,680 Speaker 1: pop was rock, So how did those tours often come together? 39 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 1: Did you did you switch places sometimes? Like who had 40 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 1: the bigger song would kind of lead the tour? Well, 41 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:54,160 Speaker 1: we um, by the grace of God, our first record 42 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 1: like done really good and we started touring together with 43 00:01:57,960 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 1: Nickelback was used to be uh their second record kind 44 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:03,920 Speaker 1: of took off for them, and so that was the 45 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 1: first tour that we would kind of they opened for 46 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:09,359 Speaker 1: us for and a couple first couple of years that 47 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:12,560 Speaker 1: both of us were out and uh, and then their 48 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:14,760 Speaker 1: second record took off, and we've done a tour together 49 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:17,080 Speaker 1: to where we kind of flip flop back and forth 50 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:20,680 Speaker 1: playing and then we had we went our separate ways. 51 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 1: So like not good blood, not good blood. So what's 52 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:26,320 Speaker 1: the deal with Nickelback? Why does anybody hate on Nickelback? 53 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 1: I don't know, why do you think people hate on Nickelback? 54 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:32,360 Speaker 1: And I wouldn't have went there for you, you know, 55 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:34,680 Speaker 1: I didn't know you guys tore with Nickelback a lot. 56 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 1: There's been a lot of times were we both started 57 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:41,040 Speaker 1: on two already Eagles, you know, like the nineteen eighties 58 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:44,519 Speaker 1: Eagle buses, and one of them was always broke. So 59 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:46,280 Speaker 1: there was a lot of times where there was I mean, 60 00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:48,400 Speaker 1: you know, in those days, all band and crew on 61 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:51,400 Speaker 1: one bus. On that tour, there was both bands and 62 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:53,919 Speaker 1: broth crews on one bus for a lot of times 63 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 1: because one of the bus was always tore, tore up, 64 00:02:56,200 --> 00:02:57,880 Speaker 1: and and it would break down and we just had 65 00:02:57,880 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 1: to get to the next gig, so everybody's just kid 66 00:02:59,840 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 1: on one. Which if a bus only holds twelve, now 67 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:07,400 Speaker 1: a bustle whole twelve legitimately like my bustle whole twelve legitimately, 68 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:09,480 Speaker 1: So that means there's enough bunks and legally you can 69 00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:11,000 Speaker 1: have twelve. This sounds like there's more than twelve people 70 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 1: on that bus, but there a lot of people some 71 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 1: Mondey would always give me a bunk and uh so 72 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:19,000 Speaker 1: so the two singers could sleep or whatever. Um, but 73 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:23,800 Speaker 1: uh yeah, we just kind of we Our old drummer 74 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:25,880 Speaker 1: is now their drummer. Daniel used to be our drummer 75 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:27,840 Speaker 1: for quite a while, and uh and and he's a 76 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:31,240 Speaker 1: great drummer, you know. And um, it was just I 77 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 1: don't really know honestly how it got to be Bad Blood, 78 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:38,120 Speaker 1: but I think kind of it was a thing in 79 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:39,560 Speaker 1: the ward show. And I don't even remember what a 80 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 1: ward show it was. And it was even between the 81 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:44,640 Speaker 1: two bands. It was between some crew guys or something. 82 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 1: But I don't know why people I don't know why 83 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:49,400 Speaker 1: people hate on him so much. But well, if you 84 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 1: don't like him, I now hate Nickelback to Mike, let 85 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:53,120 Speaker 1: him know, let him know I'm tired of defending them. 86 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 1: I don't like him anymore. But I don't like them. 87 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:57,320 Speaker 1: I don't I don't dislike you know, honestly, I hadn't 88 00:03:57,360 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 1: talked to him in a really long time. Here's the 89 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 1: story one of my friends told me, because they went 90 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 1: to Canada and they're a country band, and they said 91 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:07,960 Speaker 1: they were playing with Nickelback, and I guess those guys 92 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:10,120 Speaker 1: are really rich. I guess Chad Corger is really rich. 93 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 1: And apparently went on a yacht. This is all hearsay, right, 94 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:14,000 Speaker 1: They went out a yacht and they were throwing pillows 95 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 1: into the air and shooting them with guns, and that 96 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 1: he was just wild and they just had guns and 97 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:22,160 Speaker 1: still like partying on boats and off the coast. And 98 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 1: I was like, man, Nickelback is still going hard right now. 99 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:27,040 Speaker 1: I guess so, man. I've heard some stories about Ted 100 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:29,320 Speaker 1: doing some pretty outland just things, but it was mainly 101 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:32,360 Speaker 1: like throwing money around and and stuff like that. And 102 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:36,599 Speaker 1: for me personally, I mean, I come from a good 103 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 1: family of saving kids. But my mom there taught me 104 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:44,720 Speaker 1: to the value of money, and I still remember the 105 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:47,320 Speaker 1: value of money, and I just think about it, you know, 106 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:49,479 Speaker 1: I guess probably I was probably like nineteen or twenty, 107 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:51,240 Speaker 1: and you guys, in my mind really blew up and 108 00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 1: that rock sound became the pop sound because I was 109 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:56,680 Speaker 1: working on pop radio and every song you guys are 110 00:04:56,760 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 1: put out would just be massive. And when you're in 111 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 1: the mid and I can feel this a bit with 112 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:04,440 Speaker 1: me now, meaning I'll work so hard, I really don't 113 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:07,360 Speaker 1: see the cool things that are happening around me at 114 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:09,479 Speaker 1: the level I should really appreciate and see them. I wonder, 115 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:12,360 Speaker 1: because you were so successful, just one after the other, 116 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 1: what felt like, like, did you really feel it an 117 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:16,560 Speaker 1: experience it? Are we just running so hard? I think 118 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 1: you're just running so hard that you did you feel it? 119 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:21,080 Speaker 1: And I think I feel it more now looking back, 120 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:23,160 Speaker 1: you know, in Gina and I and we'll talk about 121 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 1: it sometimes and and and I mean we really were 122 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 1: like truly truly blessed. And we still are. Man, we 123 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:31,800 Speaker 1: still go and we still play a lot. We don't 124 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:34,720 Speaker 1: tour when we you know, when those first several years 125 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:37,000 Speaker 1: we played three hundred shows a year. Sometimes you're on 126 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:39,120 Speaker 1: the road that much, you were, man, we would we 127 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:41,920 Speaker 1: would go. We we developed kind of the three week 128 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 1: rule to where you know, if we don't want to 129 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:45,480 Speaker 1: be gone more than three weeks, and we'll come home 130 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:48,080 Speaker 1: for a week and go again sometimes. But I remember 131 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:50,400 Speaker 1: like going for three full months and not even coming home, 132 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 1: you know. Um, but we always we've always been a 133 00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:58,719 Speaker 1: radio band, and radio has always been our lifeblood, and 134 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:00,920 Speaker 1: they've always been very very get to us. Did you 135 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:02,600 Speaker 1: want to be a radio band at first? Or just 136 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:05,560 Speaker 1: a rock band that the times happened to fit the sound? 137 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:08,480 Speaker 1: I think that it just kind of happened because you know, 138 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 1: we never toured before we got signed. We were from 139 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:17,799 Speaker 1: South Mississippi and uh and we're from Biloxi, Missisipiorst Point, Mississippi. 140 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:20,240 Speaker 1: But basically Biloxi were just like halfway in between New 141 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:23,920 Speaker 1: Orleans and Mobile, and um, we couldn't get a gig 142 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 1: in New Orleans. We couldn't get gigs in Mobile, nobody. 143 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 1: I mean, we just had to play like right there. 144 00:06:29,160 --> 00:06:31,359 Speaker 1: It worked at what worked to our benefit was the 145 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:33,039 Speaker 1: fact that there just wasn't a whole lot to do 146 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:34,719 Speaker 1: in the area. So we always had a ton of 147 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:38,040 Speaker 1: friends at the shows and stuff like that. And um, 148 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:40,240 Speaker 1: so we went made a local a little CD at 149 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:42,920 Speaker 1: a local studio and had Kryptonite on it. Along with 150 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:47,000 Speaker 1: what would become like half of the first record. And 151 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 1: um so we begged our local radio station to play it. 152 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:51,919 Speaker 1: And you know they can't just do that, right, but 153 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:53,640 Speaker 1: they had a local radio show that they would do 154 00:06:53,720 --> 00:06:56,760 Speaker 1: once a month, and um so they played us on 155 00:06:56,800 --> 00:06:59,720 Speaker 1: there a lot. And and finally we begged the program 156 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:02,480 Speaker 1: director long enough uh that he was like, okay, I'll 157 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:04,560 Speaker 1: add Grip tonight, and he tried it and it became 158 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:07,000 Speaker 1: the most requests it's only ever had. And now some 159 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 1: of those people might have been interference our family for 160 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:12,560 Speaker 1: a little while, but after a while it became like 161 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:16,680 Speaker 1: a hit on that station. And they were a reporting station, 162 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:18,960 Speaker 1: and so you know, the report was going out that 163 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 1: this number one song, and but there was no record 164 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:24,640 Speaker 1: company beside it. So there came the record companies and 165 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 1: uh and we weren't even trying to get signed. We 166 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 1: they just came and it just happened. So where all 167 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:32,960 Speaker 1: you guys, where'd you come? How did you come together? 168 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:36,200 Speaker 1: We were all from the same little town, Escuatapa, Mississippi, 169 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 1: and um mad and now which our our original guitar player, 170 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:44,680 Speaker 1: he's he's passed away. We had he's my cousin and 171 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 1: we just always played together and started playing his garage 172 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:49,960 Speaker 1: before I even had a drum set. And one of 173 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:51,920 Speaker 1: his buddies left a jump set over there from new 174 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:56,240 Speaker 1: Play and and uh Todd our original bass player. Um. 175 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:58,280 Speaker 1: He asked me in Matt to come over to this 176 00:07:58,280 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 1: house one day and play, and we just started the 177 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:02,680 Speaker 1: end and I was the drummer. I didn't. I had 178 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 1: never sang in front of anybody ever, and I just 179 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:08,560 Speaker 1: I was like, oh, I try it. And I was 180 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:12,160 Speaker 1: so shy that Todd lived in a trailer and I 181 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:14,480 Speaker 1: would sit in the in the in the front living room, 182 00:08:14,480 --> 00:08:16,640 Speaker 1: move his trailer and I would A couple of his 183 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:18,640 Speaker 1: girlfriend and one of her friends would always be over there. 184 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:20,720 Speaker 1: They were always at Todd's house. I was so shy 185 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 1: sit in my face in the corner and singing. Really, 186 00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:26,960 Speaker 1: how hard was it to drum and sing? Not? Not 187 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:29,960 Speaker 1: so bad. I always wonder how people play guitar and seeing, 188 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:31,880 Speaker 1: because I mean, I just can't get my fingers to 189 00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:35,760 Speaker 1: do that. But for the drums I played, and I'm 190 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:37,520 Speaker 1: not a great drum or anything, but I played all 191 00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:39,880 Speaker 1: my life, and so it was never I never really 192 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:42,640 Speaker 1: thought about it too much. So you never sang and 193 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:45,600 Speaker 1: you hop up and you start singing, although you're shy, like, 194 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 1: could you feel you're pretty good at it? I felt 195 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:52,120 Speaker 1: like I was. Um. I think probably the breakthrough for 196 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:55,520 Speaker 1: me was when when they told me, like Todd's girlfriend 197 00:08:55,559 --> 00:08:58,400 Speaker 1: was like, you sound really good, you know, like okay, 198 00:08:58,640 --> 00:09:02,200 Speaker 1: you know it from there, and that that definitely helped 199 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 1: me come out of my shield. But I remember when 200 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:07,600 Speaker 1: we recorded that first record. I got to get home 201 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:09,440 Speaker 1: and I played it from my parents and my dad said, 202 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:11,840 Speaker 1: who's that singing? I was like, you know it ain't. 203 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:15,760 Speaker 1: That's funny, And it's such a funny story that your 204 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:18,640 Speaker 1: local radio station playing the song is what ended up 205 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:20,760 Speaker 1: getting you guys a deal, because there's kind of breaking 206 00:09:20,760 --> 00:09:23,560 Speaker 1: down for our listeners. If stations are big enough, their 207 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:27,240 Speaker 1: playlists get reported to basically a database, and they take 208 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:29,959 Speaker 1: the database and they go, Okay, this meant this song 209 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:32,200 Speaker 1: had this many plays at reporting stations, and that's what 210 00:09:32,280 --> 00:09:35,439 Speaker 1: builds the chart. So any station that's big enough has 211 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:39,200 Speaker 1: a reporting tag, and you're on reporting station and there's 212 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:41,600 Speaker 1: this song, the number one song that has no record 213 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:43,839 Speaker 1: label beside it, because every song, every band has a 214 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 1: label written right beside it. Like if they're on Mercury 215 00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:49,400 Speaker 1: or Hollywood, but three doors that had nothing nothing, And 216 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:53,040 Speaker 1: so the label did multiple labels approach you guys, They 217 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 1: did Universal in Atlantic. It was the main two that 218 00:09:55,679 --> 00:09:57,560 Speaker 1: we talked to in a couple of a couple of 219 00:09:57,600 --> 00:10:01,000 Speaker 1: others and Um and UM. Money Littman came down, who 220 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:03,880 Speaker 1: is now the president of Universal. That was when he 221 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:07,200 Speaker 1: and his brother Avery Littman at first started are not 222 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 1: just started, but recently started Republic, which was a rock 223 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:15,240 Speaker 1: very label on inside of Universal. And he came down 224 00:10:15,240 --> 00:10:17,439 Speaker 1: and talked to us, and uh, and we just liked 225 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:19,560 Speaker 1: what Money had to say and he was honest with us, 226 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:22,120 Speaker 1: and and uh, what does he say to you? You 227 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:25,680 Speaker 1: know what stand out about the meeting above what made 228 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:28,680 Speaker 1: us ultimately go with them above anybody else. He said, Look, 229 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:30,079 Speaker 1: he said, a lot of people come down here and 230 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:31,760 Speaker 1: lie to you and tell you this and that and 231 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:34,040 Speaker 1: tell you what you want to hear. He said, it's 232 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:37,320 Speaker 1: like this. You sell me records where it's all good. 233 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:40,200 Speaker 1: You stop selling records. I stopped answering the phone. I 234 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:44,200 Speaker 1: think good enough. And when you get signed, is it 235 00:10:44,320 --> 00:10:47,080 Speaker 1: like a recoup? Whenever they give you money for a record, 236 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:48,440 Speaker 1: do they give you any sort of money up front, 237 00:10:48,520 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 1: like you here have money to go buy some clothes. 238 00:10:51,400 --> 00:10:55,000 Speaker 1: They did. They gave us. They gave us um assignment 239 00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:57,200 Speaker 1: bonus when we first signed, and it wound up that 240 00:10:57,240 --> 00:11:00,040 Speaker 1: we all got fifteen thousand dollars apiece to sign on 241 00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:03,280 Speaker 1: in all four members before was at the time we 242 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:08,480 Speaker 1: all wouldn't spin it all on jet skis that in 243 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:11,080 Speaker 1: fifteen dollars. Again, we're the same agent basically from the 244 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:13,559 Speaker 1: same part of the world. Because I'm from Arkansas. You 245 00:11:13,559 --> 00:11:15,600 Speaker 1: give me fifteen thousand dollars as a nineteen or twenty 246 00:11:15,679 --> 00:11:17,679 Speaker 1: year old, I mean one, that's more money that I've 247 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:20,640 Speaker 1: ever seen it at once ever. And then too, I'm 248 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:22,800 Speaker 1: probably gonna make some dumb decisions too. And so you 249 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:25,120 Speaker 1: guys all go buy jess Kis. It was gold And 250 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:28,120 Speaker 1: where do you do? You ride them in the Gulf? Yeah? Yeah, right, 251 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 1: we lived right on the Gulf and right kind of 252 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:31,760 Speaker 1: we grew up on the river, but just ride up 253 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:34,080 Speaker 1: the river from the golf That's funny. You know what 254 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:35,880 Speaker 1: I didn't know is that you wrote Kryptonite in high school, 255 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:40,240 Speaker 1: which is which is not? This is to me the 256 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:42,440 Speaker 1: song that you guys would be known most for is it? 257 00:11:42,480 --> 00:11:45,360 Speaker 1: Is it to you? Um, it's what kind of started. Definitely, 258 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:48,720 Speaker 1: I guess maybe Here without You is kind of the 259 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:52,040 Speaker 1: song that kept it going. But Kryptonite is definitely what 260 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:54,679 Speaker 1: kind of school I'm play a little Kryptonite? This was 261 00:11:54,760 --> 00:11:56,560 Speaker 1: the jam I remember when he came out. I was like, 262 00:11:56,559 --> 00:11:57,880 Speaker 1: I don't even know who these guys are, but I 263 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:00,440 Speaker 1: love him. So tell me about this. You right? It 264 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:02,839 Speaker 1: in high school hall the year like junior senior high school. 265 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:04,640 Speaker 1: I was a senior, and so you sit down and go, 266 00:12:05,200 --> 00:12:08,280 Speaker 1: are you watching Superman? Or? You know? It was? It 267 00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:11,760 Speaker 1: was I guess it was just me asking a question 268 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:17,160 Speaker 1: of of like unconditional friendship. It's like, if I'm doing good, 269 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 1: will you'd be there for me? And if I'm down, 270 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:21,840 Speaker 1: will you'd be there for me? And you know, honest 271 00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:23,720 Speaker 1: to god, I didn't think a whole lot about it. 272 00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 1: You know, it sounded good and the words rhymed. It 273 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:30,040 Speaker 1: meant a lot more to me later and it still 274 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:36,080 Speaker 1: means things to me right now because later on in 275 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:40,120 Speaker 1: my life I started realizing that question was kind of 276 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:41,800 Speaker 1: a pretty good question. If I go crazy, will you 277 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:43,680 Speaker 1: still call me Superman? Or if I'm alive? And will 278 00:12:43,720 --> 00:12:46,960 Speaker 1: you will you be there holding my hand? And the 279 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:50,440 Speaker 1: reason it became more meaningful to me later was the 280 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:54,520 Speaker 1: fact that so many times it's like people are willingly 281 00:12:54,920 --> 00:12:57,760 Speaker 1: there for you when you're down, but those same people 282 00:12:57,760 --> 00:12:59,560 Speaker 1: that's like, oh, yeah, man, you're gonna do great, You're 283 00:12:59,559 --> 00:13:01,520 Speaker 1: gonna do well. If you start doing great, those same 284 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:03,840 Speaker 1: people will kind of turn on you sometimes, you know. 285 00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:07,360 Speaker 1: And so that question kind of became a valuable question 286 00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:10,160 Speaker 1: to me and and and pretty meaningful for me. It's 287 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:13,199 Speaker 1: almost like a marriage vale you know, for richer or poor, 288 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:15,880 Speaker 1: you know, to death do us part. It's almost what 289 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:18,280 Speaker 1: that is, like if I'm good, are we good? If 290 00:13:18,280 --> 00:13:20,600 Speaker 1: I'm bad? Are we good? Are you gonna You're gonna 291 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:22,559 Speaker 1: be there the whole time? And that was the one 292 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:25,319 Speaker 1: that the local stession played. Now was that you guys 293 00:13:25,320 --> 00:13:27,360 Speaker 1: first single, like right out of the box. It was 294 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:29,600 Speaker 1: so it was the one that that worked for you guys, 295 00:13:29,640 --> 00:13:31,800 Speaker 1: and then you ran with it nationally and did you 296 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:34,160 Speaker 1: feel good about it early? Like we're stations receptive to it? 297 00:13:34,679 --> 00:13:37,920 Speaker 1: They were, and they were, and it started doing good 298 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:41,320 Speaker 1: and then it kind of it kind of leveled all 299 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:44,040 Speaker 1: for a second, and they're like and then it. Really 300 00:13:44,080 --> 00:13:46,280 Speaker 1: it's kind of like hit another year and it took off. 301 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:49,520 Speaker 1: Could you feel that when it was early? Yeah? And 302 00:13:49,559 --> 00:13:51,320 Speaker 1: so you start to get calls from like TV shows, 303 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:53,400 Speaker 1: are you doing like the the the late night shows 304 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:55,560 Speaker 1: or MTV stuff like that. We did. We never did 305 00:13:55,600 --> 00:13:57,199 Speaker 1: a whole lot on MTV, but we've done all the 306 00:13:57,280 --> 00:14:00,160 Speaker 1: late night shows. So back did you ever do Letterman? Oh? 307 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:02,640 Speaker 1: We did? How was that? It was cool? Yeah? It 308 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:06,080 Speaker 1: was literally cool because the theater was so cold. Yeah, 309 00:14:06,120 --> 00:14:08,240 Speaker 1: but we played I think I think we held the 310 00:14:08,280 --> 00:14:11,480 Speaker 1: record on Jay Leno Show for the most times on 311 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:14,800 Speaker 1: I think we played Jay Leno Show seven times. Is 312 00:14:14,840 --> 00:14:16,400 Speaker 1: he super nice? Yas I was gonna say, like the 313 00:14:16,400 --> 00:14:17,800 Speaker 1: the whole thing with Jay was he would come by 314 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:20,160 Speaker 1: and be super nice. Hey, hey he's dripping. He was 315 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:23,000 Speaker 1: really really cool. So yeah, so that comes out and 316 00:14:23,040 --> 00:14:24,720 Speaker 1: you gotta be feeling pretty good. But do you start 317 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:26,200 Speaker 1: to feel like, man, I wonder for a one and 318 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:29,080 Speaker 1: done band, oh man, because that can be the kiss 319 00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:31,560 Speaker 1: of death, Like one huge song? Can that can do 320 00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:34,680 Speaker 1: you in? Just would you rather have had one huge 321 00:14:34,680 --> 00:14:38,880 Speaker 1: song let's say like a chumba wamba or lou bega 322 00:14:39,160 --> 00:14:41,000 Speaker 1: and went away or had no major song at all, 323 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:43,920 Speaker 1: but a few that were okay. I think I'd rather 324 00:14:43,960 --> 00:14:45,720 Speaker 1: have a few that was okay. Yeah. Why is that? 325 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:48,680 Speaker 1: Because I think it would create more longevity in your 326 00:14:48,680 --> 00:14:51,000 Speaker 1: career and allow you to go play more shows, because 327 00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:54,320 Speaker 1: you know, you know, a lot of bands kind of 328 00:14:54,800 --> 00:14:57,640 Speaker 1: look at it as like we toured to promote a record, 329 00:14:58,120 --> 00:15:00,240 Speaker 1: but we put out a record so we could go tour. 330 00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:03,240 Speaker 1: You know, we always we just always like to go 331 00:15:03,360 --> 00:15:07,120 Speaker 1: play live. And you also, I guess, would become kind 332 00:15:07,120 --> 00:15:08,960 Speaker 1: of a character of yourself if you have one song, 333 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:11,640 Speaker 1: like you're always did that image of that one song 334 00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:14,880 Speaker 1: because there's not another one or two to balance it 335 00:15:14,920 --> 00:15:16,920 Speaker 1: out so much. And I say that because I was 336 00:15:16,920 --> 00:15:20,280 Speaker 1: watching this story about Bobby McFerrin, who has Don't Worry, 337 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:23,800 Speaker 1: Be Happy. He won't play that song anymore because he's like, 338 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:27,120 Speaker 1: that was like a goofy song that I never expected 339 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:29,520 Speaker 1: to be a hit, and that actually doesn't represent me 340 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:32,960 Speaker 1: at all, and so he doesn't play that at all. Really, yeah, 341 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:35,320 Speaker 1: he doesn't play it at all. Like what do you 342 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:37,600 Speaker 1: get tired of playing the big hits? I don't. I 343 00:15:37,680 --> 00:15:41,680 Speaker 1: don't because uh, and we're doing a lot of acoustic shows, 344 00:15:41,760 --> 00:15:43,440 Speaker 1: right now and I like doing acoustics because it gives 345 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:45,080 Speaker 1: me a chance to talk to the crowd. And one 346 00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:47,280 Speaker 1: of the things I was telling the crowd the other 347 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:49,720 Speaker 1: night because I just talk whatever on my mind, you know, 348 00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:51,640 Speaker 1: and and I was just telling him. I was like, 349 00:15:51,640 --> 00:15:54,800 Speaker 1: you know, it never it never gets old. And and 350 00:15:56,640 --> 00:15:59,120 Speaker 1: because I love hearing him sing it back. And it's 351 00:15:59,160 --> 00:16:01,880 Speaker 1: weird because for the last fifteen years we wore in 352 00:16:01,960 --> 00:16:04,880 Speaker 1: ear monitors. Well, had a weird situation like two weekends ago, 353 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:07,560 Speaker 1: my monitor guy, we were in and out of town, 354 00:16:07,560 --> 00:16:09,320 Speaker 1: you know, and he left our inn years at home 355 00:16:09,840 --> 00:16:12,640 Speaker 1: and thank god we had some wedges. And so that 356 00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:14,240 Speaker 1: was my first time to sing with wedges in like 357 00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:16,400 Speaker 1: fifteen years. Wow. And So by the way, wedges, for 358 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:19,120 Speaker 1: people that don't know, the inner ears are uh a 359 00:16:19,160 --> 00:16:21,000 Speaker 1: little the tiny things that you see the artists wearing 360 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:23,280 Speaker 1: their ears. And so basically it's a mix inside the 361 00:16:23,320 --> 00:16:25,680 Speaker 1: years and it seals off all the outside sound and 362 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:28,840 Speaker 1: what the monitors are are, or the wedges are, the 363 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:32,600 Speaker 1: the on stage, the little box speakers. Everybody can kind 364 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:34,360 Speaker 1: to hear them, but they're pointed at you. And so 365 00:16:34,360 --> 00:16:36,400 Speaker 1: it was the first time in fifteen years you'd use us. Yeah, 366 00:16:36,760 --> 00:16:39,560 Speaker 1: and uh for one of our shows, and it allowed 367 00:16:39,560 --> 00:16:41,720 Speaker 1: me to hear the crowd, and I was like, man, 368 00:16:42,560 --> 00:16:44,920 Speaker 1: missing this because you know, sometimes for the inn ears, 369 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:47,040 Speaker 1: you only hear what you want to hear. But it 370 00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:50,360 Speaker 1: can really kind of it can definitely separate you from 371 00:16:50,400 --> 00:16:52,880 Speaker 1: everybody out there. I have, I usually have some ambient 372 00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:56,080 Speaker 1: mics in there a little bit, but um and coincidentally, 373 00:16:56,120 --> 00:16:58,480 Speaker 1: the first the first of those two shows was it's 374 00:16:58,520 --> 00:17:01,840 Speaker 1: pretty small and uh, I could I could hear people 375 00:17:01,880 --> 00:17:05,159 Speaker 1: like talking while I was singing shut up, Okay. So 376 00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:08,240 Speaker 1: I just saw by the way, you mentioned the acoustic 377 00:17:08,280 --> 00:17:10,680 Speaker 1: before you get to the next point, back porch jams out. 378 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:13,480 Speaker 1: Here's Kryptonite, the acoustic version that three doors down just 379 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:21,359 Speaker 1: put out. Man, do you guys rerecord these? Did you 380 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:22,960 Speaker 1: go energy pill stuff back? Or howd you do that? 381 00:17:23,160 --> 00:17:26,080 Speaker 1: We just we have a studio that we own just 382 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:28,840 Speaker 1: up in Hendersonville and it's just a small, little nothing 383 00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:30,920 Speaker 1: studio and we just went in there and and ran 384 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:33,560 Speaker 1: through them and just played them I think just maybe 385 00:17:33,560 --> 00:17:35,560 Speaker 1: once or twice, is that right? Because we tried to 386 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:37,080 Speaker 1: keep it kind of live. We didn't want it to 387 00:17:37,119 --> 00:17:41,080 Speaker 1: be like to like right, you know, it's my whole life. 388 00:17:41,080 --> 00:17:42,960 Speaker 1: I don't want to be too right. I just won't 389 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:46,080 Speaker 1: feel normal if it's too right. You know, you mentioned 390 00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:48,120 Speaker 1: people talking. I did a whole thing on the air 391 00:17:48,280 --> 00:17:50,480 Speaker 1: a couple of days ago where I was talking about 392 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:53,080 Speaker 1: acoustic shows or even when I do stand up, Like 393 00:17:53,119 --> 00:17:56,080 Speaker 1: there's a difference because when someone's talking and I'm doing 394 00:17:56,119 --> 00:18:00,440 Speaker 1: stand up, it kills all of like my rhythm. I'm 395 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:02,520 Speaker 1: talking and if you yell hey, you're all even if 396 00:18:02,520 --> 00:18:05,960 Speaker 1: you hey, you're awesome, it it stops it. It kills everything. 397 00:18:06,280 --> 00:18:08,720 Speaker 1: And I'm like, there's a difference in screaming that out 398 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:11,399 Speaker 1: when I'm doing stand up or someone is doing an 399 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:15,440 Speaker 1: acoustic show versus when there's fire and there's big electric 400 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:17,640 Speaker 1: guitars and know, you can scream it all you want, 401 00:18:17,840 --> 00:18:20,400 Speaker 1: like tell tell the artist you love him, but if 402 00:18:20,440 --> 00:18:22,600 Speaker 1: he's depending on the attention of the room, he's got 403 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:25,160 Speaker 1: to have the attention of the room. And so you're 404 00:18:25,160 --> 00:18:27,040 Speaker 1: playing these acoustic shows and you started to notice that 405 00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:30,040 Speaker 1: was a thing, huh you do It is irritating because 406 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:31,439 Speaker 1: for me, but I don't know about you, but I 407 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:33,919 Speaker 1: feel bad. Not for me. I'll be fine, Like I go, 408 00:18:34,040 --> 00:18:35,399 Speaker 1: I do the best I can, and I feel good 409 00:18:35,440 --> 00:18:37,399 Speaker 1: about it. But it's the people that are sitting out 410 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:39,040 Speaker 1: there that paid for the ticket that have to hear 411 00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:42,879 Speaker 1: some idiot yelling and I feel bad for them, and 412 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:45,760 Speaker 1: I get mad for them, and sometimes like I popped 413 00:18:45,800 --> 00:18:47,840 Speaker 1: off the crowd at people in the crowd, and I'm like, dude, 414 00:18:47,920 --> 00:18:51,080 Speaker 1: they didn't pay to hear you tell jokes. They paid 415 00:18:51,119 --> 00:18:54,520 Speaker 1: to come and experience whatever I'm bringing. And I wonder, 416 00:18:54,600 --> 00:18:56,639 Speaker 1: do you feel that way? I do? I do? And 417 00:18:56,680 --> 00:18:58,879 Speaker 1: you know, and and at one of the shows, that 418 00:18:59,119 --> 00:19:02,000 Speaker 1: that first show, so there was somebody over over out 419 00:19:02,119 --> 00:19:03,600 Speaker 1: on one side of the crowd that was just kept 420 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:05,440 Speaker 1: on screen, and I remember I could hear them while 421 00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:09,000 Speaker 1: I was singing, and I mean they weren't like screaming 422 00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:12,360 Speaker 1: obscenities or something hateful or anything. But after a couple 423 00:19:12,359 --> 00:19:14,080 Speaker 1: of songs, security kim and got him and take them 424 00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:15,679 Speaker 1: took him out. And I don't like to see anybody 425 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:18,000 Speaker 1: get taking out of the show. I was kind of glahead, Yeah, 426 00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:19,199 Speaker 1: and you know what, and they paid for it too, 427 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:21,120 Speaker 1: but they can't run it everybody else. That's right. That's 428 00:19:21,119 --> 00:19:23,200 Speaker 1: what That's all it's about to me, is that you're 429 00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:27,000 Speaker 1: running it for everybody else that got asiter that took 430 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:29,280 Speaker 1: a night and dedicated to come watch freaking three doors 431 00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:31,639 Speaker 1: downplay and there's some guy won't stop screaming as you 432 00:19:31,640 --> 00:19:34,440 Speaker 1: guys are playing here without you acoustic which is cool, 433 00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:40,639 Speaker 1: which is also on the record or so that I 434 00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:42,280 Speaker 1: don't know, sounds pretty perfect to me, I'll be honest 435 00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:47,399 Speaker 1: with you. This is out now the back course shams 436 00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:53,440 Speaker 1: the acoustic versions. So this song? What single was this? Um? 437 00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:56,600 Speaker 1: This was all? This was the second single off the 438 00:19:56,640 --> 00:19:59,879 Speaker 1: second record, So okay, so it was a bit but 439 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:01,800 Speaker 1: Wain Kryptonite and here with us? So what was the 440 00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:05,679 Speaker 1: second single? A loser? That was the way loser starts 441 00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:08,280 Speaker 1: with that guitar at the beginning of it. Oh man, 442 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:12,359 Speaker 1: that was a jam that that song. I didn't realize 443 00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:14,840 Speaker 1: it until speaking of like you don't realize what's going 444 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:17,840 Speaker 1: on around you. And now I might be kind of wrong, 445 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:20,520 Speaker 1: but in some way that song was number one at 446 00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:23,520 Speaker 1: rock radio for six months? Is that right? So in 447 00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:25,440 Speaker 1: one form or the other for six months it was 448 00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:29,320 Speaker 1: number one because I'm a loser? How is it? Jam man? 449 00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:33,040 Speaker 1: I said, love that song? I mean that's right here 450 00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:36,359 Speaker 1: in the baseline Boo boo that I loved it. Man, 451 00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:38,280 Speaker 1: I geek out over this music. When you played with us, 452 00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:39,840 Speaker 1: I was like, this is the coolest thing I've ever done. 453 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:41,359 Speaker 1: And I get to play with some alls and people, 454 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:43,760 Speaker 1: and I was like, I appreciate it. It was so 455 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:47,160 Speaker 1: much fun because together you came and you sang Kryptonite 456 00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:49,240 Speaker 1: and here without you. I think it's a two songs 457 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:52,000 Speaker 1: that we did and I just sang background vocals. That 458 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:53,560 Speaker 1: was the coolest thing ever. It was so it was 459 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:57,080 Speaker 1: so much fun. I really enjoyed, sincerely, I really enjoyed that. 460 00:20:57,119 --> 00:20:59,640 Speaker 1: I couldn't believe you said yes, because I I told 461 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:01,679 Speaker 1: him that's that is there anywhere we can get, you know, 462 00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:03,520 Speaker 1: three doors down. I get bragged. I know he lives 463 00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:05,840 Speaker 1: here and I didn't know we had the same management. 464 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:08,240 Speaker 1: And they were like, you know you have the same 465 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:09,880 Speaker 1: and I was like, sure it, say where reach out? 466 00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:11,560 Speaker 1: We know him and so they said, yeah, he's gonna 467 00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:12,760 Speaker 1: do it. I was like, are you kidding me? This 468 00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:15,159 Speaker 1: is the craziest thing any time. Man. That was awesome. 469 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:17,600 Speaker 1: Here's out here without your Now, let's do let's do 470 00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:29,040 Speaker 1: a loser a little bit. Here's a loser you guys, 471 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:31,800 Speaker 1: pretty party and pretty hard at this point. Were yeah, 472 00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:33,960 Speaker 1: we were, But I actually you know how I wrote 473 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:37,080 Speaker 1: that song, uh, when I was a teenager. Also, um, 474 00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:41,680 Speaker 1: I wrote it maybe before crypt well, no, it's a 475 00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:43,639 Speaker 1: little bit after. The Cryptic Knight was also like the 476 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:45,840 Speaker 1: fifth song I ever wrote when I started, when we 477 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:48,439 Speaker 1: wrote that first record, I've never even written songs. I didn't. 478 00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:51,280 Speaker 1: I didn't really. I started out writing poems. And I 479 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:52,880 Speaker 1: guess the reason I wrote too many of them high 480 00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:56,879 Speaker 1: school because I think I had like algebra, which is 481 00:21:56,880 --> 00:21:59,200 Speaker 1: the class that I used to setting rhodium. I had 482 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:01,680 Speaker 1: it right after lunch, and I think that was fourth period. 483 00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:04,840 Speaker 1: Third period was creative writing, and I used to love 484 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:07,359 Speaker 1: creative writing. I was terrible in math, so I'd take 485 00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:10,240 Speaker 1: creative writing and then I go to lunch and I 486 00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:12,440 Speaker 1: go sitting math class and just like right, I fed 487 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:14,159 Speaker 1: my brain, you know, and I'd go in there and 488 00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:17,040 Speaker 1: I wrote half that record in there. But I wrote 489 00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:19,919 Speaker 1: Loser right around that same time. But actually wrote her 490 00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:23,400 Speaker 1: about one of my friends and um and what actually 491 00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:26,840 Speaker 1: calling him a loser. But he and I grew up 492 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:29,320 Speaker 1: together and I know him since we're little bitty kids, 493 00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:32,520 Speaker 1: and uh, he started getting into like jokes pretty bad 494 00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:34,919 Speaker 1: and stuff. And I wasn't writing a calling him a loser. 495 00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:38,520 Speaker 1: I watched his attitude chains to where I could tell 496 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:41,600 Speaker 1: that like he thought he was a loser, and I was. 497 00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:45,360 Speaker 1: I was almost writing it from his perspective, looking at himself, 498 00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:48,879 Speaker 1: you know, you know what I mean. And um, and 499 00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:50,879 Speaker 1: thankfully dude straightened up. And he's a good dude. And 500 00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:53,600 Speaker 1: I had talked to him a long time. But um, 501 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:55,840 Speaker 1: that it was written really about one of my friends. 502 00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:59,160 Speaker 1: You wrote those songs in high school, huh and here 503 00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:06,680 Speaker 1: they are lasting twenty years later. That's crazy. So were 504 00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:08,560 Speaker 1: you in high school? Were you the cool music kid? 505 00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:12,360 Speaker 1: Were the dorky music kid? I kinda hung out with everybody. Um, 506 00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:15,280 Speaker 1: And and it was really like I was saying earlier, 507 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:18,119 Speaker 1: it worked hard at venues to be from that little town. 508 00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:21,800 Speaker 1: And I mean I kind of knew everybody. I wouldn't 509 00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:23,800 Speaker 1: like the kid that got picked on, but I wasn't 510 00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:26,080 Speaker 1: the kid that got invited every party either, you know. 511 00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:30,480 Speaker 1: And um, because we we we practice all the time. 512 00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:32,920 Speaker 1: We were just we played all the time and we 513 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:37,120 Speaker 1: should have been better, but but we knew. We got 514 00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:38,880 Speaker 1: to where we knew everybody because there was one little 515 00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:41,920 Speaker 1: bar in our town and we played there every weekend. 516 00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:43,879 Speaker 1: And I was only sixteen and I had to get 517 00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:45,520 Speaker 1: I literally had to get a note from a parents 518 00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:46,920 Speaker 1: saying it was okay for me to be in there 519 00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:50,680 Speaker 1: and know a note that's funny, A no to break 520 00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:54,280 Speaker 1: the law? That's fnny. Isn't that funny? Into a bar? Yeah? 521 00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:58,119 Speaker 1: Playing the bars, and we just we'd always have like 522 00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:00,119 Speaker 1: three or four people in there. It was never are 523 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:02,280 Speaker 1: like but double all there was to go do. And 524 00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:04,720 Speaker 1: we charged like three or three or four dollars to 525 00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:06,800 Speaker 1: come in, and we just got to keep the keep 526 00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:10,280 Speaker 1: the cover charge. So they made the alcohol money and 527 00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:12,840 Speaker 1: you guys got the cover we did. Why about you 528 00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:15,280 Speaker 1: guys were doing all right then? Because again how we 529 00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:17,760 Speaker 1: grew up, you and I both, that's that's a lot 530 00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:19,880 Speaker 1: of money. I worked at McDonald's, and I could make 531 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:23,160 Speaker 1: more playing in a bar both nights at the weekend. 532 00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:25,320 Speaker 1: I can make a McDonald's all week Did you continue 533 00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:27,480 Speaker 1: to work at McDonald's for a little bit? When did 534 00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:30,720 Speaker 1: you go? All right, I'm just gonna dedicate myself to music. Um, 535 00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:32,840 Speaker 1: I'm mainly quit there because I want to go to 536 00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:35,359 Speaker 1: a party and my manage let me help work. I 537 00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:37,840 Speaker 1: was like, see you make more money playing in bars anyway, 538 00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:43,560 Speaker 1: that's funny. Three doors down the acoustic versions, uh from 539 00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:46,160 Speaker 1: their acoustic back porch jam. Check that out. I'm gonna 540 00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:49,600 Speaker 1: do a break here real quick. Alright, so loser comes out? 541 00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:52,800 Speaker 1: What's next? What comes out to loser? Duck and Ruin 542 00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:57,439 Speaker 1: was the third single off that record, And um, that 543 00:24:57,600 --> 00:25:00,320 Speaker 1: was a fun zone And you wrote this one by yourself? Right? 544 00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:05,080 Speaker 1: We did? Um? Um, Well, this one, I wrote all 545 00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:09,960 Speaker 1: the lyrics. Um. The only thing I hadn't I didn't 546 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:11,840 Speaker 1: write all the lyrics songs, Like two songs on some 547 00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:14,000 Speaker 1: of our later records, I co wrote those with a 548 00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:18,159 Speaker 1: couple of guys. Um. But this one, we had the 549 00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:20,119 Speaker 1: music for a little while for it, and I just 550 00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:24,280 Speaker 1: never could Sometimes we could have music and a couple 551 00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:26,879 Speaker 1: of the songs, I would write lyrics like completely independent 552 00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:30,320 Speaker 1: of the music, and I just had like this notebook 553 00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:33,359 Speaker 1: of lyrics, and we'd come up with songs and songs 554 00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:35,200 Speaker 1: and songs, and every now and then i'd be listening 555 00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:37,240 Speaker 1: to one and I'll be reading through there and It's like, heym, 556 00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:39,480 Speaker 1: those lyrics work with that music, and I think I 557 00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:41,840 Speaker 1: can run. Was at least part of it kind of 558 00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:43,880 Speaker 1: wound up like that. Man, this was a rock song. 559 00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:47,280 Speaker 1: Right here, I'll sing them all back. I'm here a 560 00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:51,680 Speaker 1: little bit of this. I mean it's heavy. Yeah, it 561 00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:53,760 Speaker 1: was it heavy and now here and now it's it's heavy? 562 00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:57,160 Speaker 1: Was it again to the time? Was it considered heavy? 563 00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:02,040 Speaker 1: M hm? So of that was the first song we 564 00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:06,120 Speaker 1: used kind of like that song was the first song 565 00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:08,879 Speaker 1: I ever heard auto tune on, and we used this 566 00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:10,720 Speaker 1: sort of as an effect. There's a couple of spots 567 00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:13,680 Speaker 1: you can hear my voice kind of like and uh. 568 00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:15,920 Speaker 1: I remember one of the guys from some forty one 569 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:17,920 Speaker 1: like messing with me one day at the show. He 570 00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:21,120 Speaker 1: was like, so, tune all your vocals, I like, dududes. 571 00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:23,679 Speaker 1: In fact, he's like, it sounds like tuning in to me. 572 00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:27,240 Speaker 1: I was like, whatever it is. Which of those guys 573 00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:29,240 Speaker 1: that you become friends with during that time, like all 574 00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:31,960 Speaker 1: those bands that are, you know, basically touring together, seeing 575 00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:34,280 Speaker 1: each other on the road, who'd you guys become close with? Um? 576 00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:37,399 Speaker 1: I guess some of the guys that I became close 577 00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:40,960 Speaker 1: with that I'm still friends with this Uh, some of 578 00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:42,440 Speaker 1: the closer ones, would you know? I don't talk to 579 00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:44,280 Speaker 1: him all the time. But the theory of it dead 580 00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:46,520 Speaker 1: Man guys, is that right cool one to guys, that's 581 00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:48,480 Speaker 1: a that's a rock band. Yeah, and they're a good 582 00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:51,080 Speaker 1: bunch of dudes. Where they love now. I think they're 583 00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:54,520 Speaker 1: all in Canada, so the Canadians they are like. I 584 00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:56,840 Speaker 1: would listen to the Edge in Dallas. That's where I 585 00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:58,399 Speaker 1: would hear three of the Dead Man. I would this 586 00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:00,920 Speaker 1: is how dorky I was, right because I was really 587 00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:03,959 Speaker 1: into the rocks. You know. It went from like, uh, 588 00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:07,560 Speaker 1: I found nine Country in the nineties, and then the 589 00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:11,360 Speaker 1: whole grunge movement for me was big because I grew 590 00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:14,280 Speaker 1: up grungy anyway. And finally I just looked like those 591 00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:16,320 Speaker 1: people because I was dirty kid anyway. But that was 592 00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:17,840 Speaker 1: cool to be a dirty kid. And I was like, finally, 593 00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:20,560 Speaker 1: somebody that's that looks like me. And so I listened 594 00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:22,440 Speaker 1: to all that and that transitioned into kind of you 595 00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:25,080 Speaker 1: guys this time, you know, the two thousand's, the early 596 00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:28,200 Speaker 1: two thousands, and so I would have my friend get 597 00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:30,560 Speaker 1: on the Edge in Dallas and take a cassette and 598 00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:33,359 Speaker 1: just pit record play and tape an hour flip it 599 00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:35,040 Speaker 1: tape an hour then mail it to me and I 600 00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:37,600 Speaker 1: would listen to it back and I would hear you guys, 601 00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:39,159 Speaker 1: and some of the rock songs that wouldn't go to 602 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:40,920 Speaker 1: pop but would just go to the edge, Theory of 603 00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:42,719 Speaker 1: a Dead Man, and you go through all those all 604 00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:44,399 Speaker 1: those bands like that, And that's what that reminds me of, 605 00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:48,680 Speaker 1: is that time period cassettes, man, and sometimes even I 606 00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:50,119 Speaker 1: would record songs. I don't know if you did this 607 00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:52,280 Speaker 1: back in your hold doubt, I would. I would go record, 608 00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:54,560 Speaker 1: play pause and then when the song that you like start, 609 00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:56,399 Speaker 1: you take that pause off quick, and you hope to 610 00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:59,160 Speaker 1: god the stupid DJ would talk over the intro. Yeah, 611 00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:01,320 Speaker 1: even like okay, so top five and nine don't talk 612 00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:04,840 Speaker 1: over the intro on posit? How many? How many singles 613 00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:07,720 Speaker 1: on that first record? Four? So what's the last one 614 00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:10,360 Speaker 1: that comes off? Be like that? Oh? If I can 615 00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:13,040 Speaker 1: be like, was this on a movie too? It's on 616 00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:15,359 Speaker 1: the soundtrack? It was. It was on the American Pie 617 00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:18,320 Speaker 1: that's right. We didn't write it for it, but it 618 00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:20,639 Speaker 1: wound up being on it. And actually we had to 619 00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:24,119 Speaker 1: change the first lyrics of it because the first lyrics 620 00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:28,200 Speaker 1: spans nice California. Well, that song takes place in Middle America, 621 00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:30,639 Speaker 1: so I didn't like to mention of California, so we 622 00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:34,920 Speaker 1: we changed it to spend his whole life being too young, 623 00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:39,400 Speaker 1: live life, to send his dreams. And it's still around 624 00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:43,600 Speaker 1: with the nickline. Instead of California being too young, is 625 00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:48,800 Speaker 1: California being too young? That's syllable that that's the So 626 00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:51,840 Speaker 1: did you change it for just the soundtrack like on 627 00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:55,000 Speaker 1: the on the record it was it was California on 628 00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:56,760 Speaker 1: the soundtrack. You have to go back in the studio 629 00:28:56,840 --> 00:28:59,640 Speaker 1: and re record that and hopefully it sounds the same, 630 00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:01,560 Speaker 1: like don't have a cold or something. It's hard to 631 00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:03,840 Speaker 1: do that, man, it's hard to go and I mean 632 00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:05,640 Speaker 1: you can use the same microphone, you could be in 633 00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:08,520 Speaker 1: the same studio, same everything. It's hard to go back 634 00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:10,480 Speaker 1: because I've tried. I have had to do it a 635 00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:12,280 Speaker 1: little touch ups here and there, and it's hard to 636 00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:14,400 Speaker 1: do it a couple of weeks later because my voice 637 00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:17,200 Speaker 1: changes every day, you know, and especially when you're younger 638 00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:19,800 Speaker 1: like that, and not from just your voice changing. But 639 00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:21,720 Speaker 1: I didn't have as much control over it then, and 640 00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:24,040 Speaker 1: it's hard to go back in there and and make 641 00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:26,239 Speaker 1: it sound the same to where it just lines up 642 00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:28,400 Speaker 1: with the rest of a of a take. You Now, 643 00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:30,560 Speaker 1: when you say that's the first thing I thought is, wow, 644 00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:33,120 Speaker 1: you had to change it. And from that's quite the 645 00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:35,600 Speaker 1: time difference from when you record it for the first 646 00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:38,040 Speaker 1: record and when this movie comes out. Four singles, that's 647 00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:40,520 Speaker 1: what a year, year and a half. Yere about a 648 00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:44,200 Speaker 1: year and a half a thing. So that first single, Kryptonite, 649 00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:46,920 Speaker 1: you've got a couple of rockets. That fourth one goes 650 00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:48,880 Speaker 1: back to pop and does it really well. I remember 651 00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:51,880 Speaker 1: that playing that one like crazy. So you start with 652 00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:54,240 Speaker 1: a bang and you end with a bang. Going into 653 00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:56,479 Speaker 1: the second record, you gotta feel pretty good about yourself. 654 00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:59,880 Speaker 1: It was that was It was amazing. It was amazing. 655 00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:06,720 Speaker 1: I remember I literally remember being so mad one night 656 00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:09,880 Speaker 1: and like at at my and R guy was like, 657 00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:13,200 Speaker 1: why a will to sell eighty thousand records last week? 658 00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:16,760 Speaker 1: That was like, man, this is bull crow last week? 659 00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:19,960 Speaker 1: Yeah a random week. Wow, times have changed. My friend 660 00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:22,680 Speaker 1: was like what or maybe it was like sixty thousand 661 00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:24,720 Speaker 1: or something, but it was like ridiculous. It was some 662 00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:28,120 Speaker 1: ridiculous amount of records and I was like what it 663 00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:32,120 Speaker 1: gets so crazy? I was killing it now. Artists auld 664 00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:34,960 Speaker 1: beg I think like Florida George lines like fifty last week, 665 00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:36,600 Speaker 1: it was like the biggest I don't listen, times have 666 00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:38,800 Speaker 1: changed to like the way that people get music. Absolutely, 667 00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:41,120 Speaker 1: but okay. So the second record was that Away from 668 00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:43,240 Speaker 1: the Sun. It was I don't even have notes on that, 669 00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:45,360 Speaker 1: like I'm just going straight from from memory here Away 670 00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:47,760 Speaker 1: from the Sun, like the black cover the sun kind 671 00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:50,600 Speaker 1: of tell me if I'm wrong, like, um, like maybe 672 00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:51,880 Speaker 1: like the moon's covering a little bit. There's like an 673 00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:54,200 Speaker 1: outside like edge of the sun. Is that right? I'm 674 00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:57,040 Speaker 1: so good at this. I'm good at And so first 675 00:30:57,080 --> 00:30:59,840 Speaker 1: song off the record is Wife. The first single off 676 00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:05,720 Speaker 1: of Away from the Sun was when I'm gone jam 677 00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:08,800 Speaker 1: come on. I had to think about that, now, what 678 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:12,040 Speaker 1: this is the jam? Thats the jam too? Listen to this. 679 00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:20,360 Speaker 1: Would you get nervous that a song was coming out 680 00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:21,959 Speaker 1: of would you? At this time You're like, we're kind 681 00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:23,640 Speaker 1: of feeling that, we feel like it's gonna do good, 682 00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:27,120 Speaker 1: just put it out. I was nervous. I was why 683 00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:30,240 Speaker 1: is that? Because it was the first one was so big. 684 00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:33,600 Speaker 1: We had every chance in the world to fail, you know, 685 00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:35,880 Speaker 1: because because at the same time, you know, we were 686 00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:40,040 Speaker 1: never we were never like the cool band. You know, 687 00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:43,640 Speaker 1: It's like we never got like coverage of this band 688 00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:46,840 Speaker 1: or this band, because it was always you know, things 689 00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:50,200 Speaker 1: that tend to follow the trendy bands, you know what, 690 00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:53,960 Speaker 1: so many, so many of those musement movements of music 691 00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:56,440 Speaker 1: just like that just spike up. And you know, it 692 00:31:56,520 --> 00:32:00,640 Speaker 1: was like, is it gonna work amongst all that? And 693 00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:04,000 Speaker 1: and and it would, but I think I got nervous 694 00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:06,880 Speaker 1: every time. Was there ever resentment that you guys didn't 695 00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:08,160 Speaker 1: get the coverage? And did you ever go is it 696 00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:10,480 Speaker 1: because we're from super South? Is it because I mean 697 00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:14,080 Speaker 1: I resented it? And I mean and you know, because 698 00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:16,800 Speaker 1: even really, you know, they wanted us to kind of 699 00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:19,920 Speaker 1: separate ourselves from being so Southern. And I mean you 700 00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:22,280 Speaker 1: can hear the way I talk. I've tried not to 701 00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:24,000 Speaker 1: for a little while, and I just couldn't help it, 702 00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:28,040 Speaker 1: you know, and and uh, and you know, I guess 703 00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:31,600 Speaker 1: they associated with being kind of stupid or whatever. Then 704 00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:34,320 Speaker 1: especially you know, it's like because there were no Southern 705 00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:36,880 Speaker 1: bands out and Hatton been for a long time. You know, 706 00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:41,640 Speaker 1: I think the last Southern bands out before us, there 707 00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:44,200 Speaker 1: was a rock band. And you know, how does that 708 00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:47,120 Speaker 1: conversation go where they go, And is it a conversation 709 00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:48,880 Speaker 1: where they say, hey, like we need you to be 710 00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:51,440 Speaker 1: a little more California, a little more you know not, 711 00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:53,800 Speaker 1: because again it's another Southern guy right in front of 712 00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:56,280 Speaker 1: you asking this question. Because when I started in radio 713 00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:57,200 Speaker 1: and they were like, he if you're gonna do pop 714 00:32:57,240 --> 00:32:58,840 Speaker 1: an epop, you have to lose rags in a little bit. 715 00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:02,680 Speaker 1: So that conversation has had to me. And I did 716 00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:04,040 Speaker 1: a bit, and now I've kind of got back to 717 00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:07,080 Speaker 1: you know, I sound a bit like I sounded growing up. 718 00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:08,800 Speaker 1: But was that conversation had with you, Like, guys, you 719 00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:10,600 Speaker 1: gotta chill out a little bit on the in the Mississippi? 720 00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:13,000 Speaker 1: They did, and they sent this to a voice coach 721 00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:15,720 Speaker 1: for a couple of sessions and just to help us 722 00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:19,760 Speaker 1: like like me, which you know, a new proper grammar. 723 00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:21,640 Speaker 1: I just don't like to use it, you know what 724 00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:25,600 Speaker 1: I'm saying. And but I did. I tried to lose 725 00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:27,760 Speaker 1: it for a little while. And I mean, and it's 726 00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:29,920 Speaker 1: not as thick as it was when I started, man, 727 00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:33,560 Speaker 1: that was it was. I probably could have managed to 728 00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:35,120 Speaker 1: shave a little bit of at all of these are 729 00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:37,200 Speaker 1: people surprised sometimes I think your accident is when you 730 00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:38,760 Speaker 1: do talk, they are because you don't really hear it 731 00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:40,360 Speaker 1: in the music. But again, you don't really hear the 732 00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:42,080 Speaker 1: Spice girls being British and most of the stuff they 733 00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:45,000 Speaker 1: sing either I know or it bows me away. Like 734 00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:47,520 Speaker 1: you you've seen this actor in four or five movies 735 00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:49,560 Speaker 1: and then you see him excepting an award or something. 736 00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:52,280 Speaker 1: It's like, what the guy walking Dead kills me. He's 737 00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:53,959 Speaker 1: off the show now. But the main guy, Rick Grimes, 738 00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:56,440 Speaker 1: he would say he's on the show. He's like from 739 00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:59,080 Speaker 1: Atlanta and he talks and he's like Rick Grimes and 740 00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:01,480 Speaker 1: then he's on the awards show is going it my 741 00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:04,680 Speaker 1: thanks for the award. I'm like, what is happening right now? 742 00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:06,680 Speaker 1: Like I don't want to hear this. You're running everything 743 00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:08,560 Speaker 1: I know about this guy. I pictured him in the 744 00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:14,080 Speaker 1: Grinds in Atlanta, not this kangaroo guy. So you keep 745 00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:16,480 Speaker 1: making heads, but you're probably not getting the respect that 746 00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:19,719 Speaker 1: you just you feel like you deserve in the mainstream. 747 00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:21,759 Speaker 1: Like that would that would irritate me. It was a 748 00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:28,000 Speaker 1: little irritating, but um, but then you know, I guess, 749 00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:30,680 Speaker 1: But then you go home and forget about it. You know, 750 00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:33,279 Speaker 1: because you're amongst your friends and and they're glad that you. 751 00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:36,160 Speaker 1: I always just thought it was more important to stay 752 00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:38,360 Speaker 1: me than it was to be who they wanted me 753 00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:43,040 Speaker 1: to be, because you know, I think for my mom daddy, 754 00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:46,799 Speaker 1: you know, they were always encouraging to me and and 755 00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:49,080 Speaker 1: just let me do my thing. You know, they didn't 756 00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:50,880 Speaker 1: force me to do it, but they didn't keep me 757 00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:54,760 Speaker 1: from doing it. But you know, my mom just always 758 00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:57,439 Speaker 1: your mind's like, Brad, that won't always be there son, 759 00:34:57,719 --> 00:34:59,600 Speaker 1: you know, And it's always kept that in my mind 760 00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:03,120 Speaker 1: that this will you know, who I am will always 761 00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:05,560 Speaker 1: be here, but that won't always be there. So I 762 00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:07,759 Speaker 1: just kind of got to where I just took it 763 00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:09,680 Speaker 1: with a grain of salt and I just am who 764 00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:12,280 Speaker 1: I am, you know. And how is the relationship between 765 00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:15,360 Speaker 1: the band as you guys started to skyrocket with the 766 00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:19,200 Speaker 1: songs doing so well, getting better, getting worse worse? Really 767 00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:22,719 Speaker 1: it did, because honestly, I mean we all got out there, 768 00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:26,680 Speaker 1: party in and like one of us was, all of 769 00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:28,840 Speaker 1: us drink a good bit, but like one of us was, 770 00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:31,279 Speaker 1: it wasn't that we didn't get along, our drugs didn't 771 00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:33,400 Speaker 1: get along because one person was on this and one 772 00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:35,680 Speaker 1: person was on this, one person was on this, and 773 00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:37,799 Speaker 1: and and by our third record, we all had our 774 00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:41,160 Speaker 1: own buses. It was four five guys in the band 775 00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:44,600 Speaker 1: um and four four band busses and then all the 776 00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:47,040 Speaker 1: crew busses. So we were rolling around with seven busses 777 00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:51,480 Speaker 1: because the four main band guys just hated each other. 778 00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:54,680 Speaker 1: So how does that dynamic work when you have to 779 00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:56,400 Speaker 1: work on things and when you have to get on 780 00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:59,920 Speaker 1: stage and be a collective. It that got to where 781 00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:01,560 Speaker 1: it was like the only time that we've seen each 782 00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:04,600 Speaker 1: other with sound check and on stage, and you know, 783 00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:08,680 Speaker 1: we were playing amphitheaters and stuff. You keep a pretty 784 00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:11,239 Speaker 1: consistent sound, so we'd get a sound established and we 785 00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:13,440 Speaker 1: wouldn't even do sound check. I wouldn't see some of 786 00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:15,799 Speaker 1: those see the guys until it was you know, if 787 00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:17,399 Speaker 1: we played at nine, I'd see M and eight thirty 788 00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:19,040 Speaker 1: we were in the addressing room and putting years on 789 00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:21,160 Speaker 1: and it was just all right, you guys ready, And 790 00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:22,640 Speaker 1: then you go out and play and rocket show and 791 00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:24,719 Speaker 1: everybody thinks that you're the best friends ever because you 792 00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:26,919 Speaker 1: used to be and you look like you I mean, 793 00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:28,840 Speaker 1: you go out and you you're you're a rock band. 794 00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:32,560 Speaker 1: You're rocking, people think you're rocking as brothers. When does 795 00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:38,560 Speaker 1: it get better? Um? Or does it? It's it's sort 796 00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:41,759 Speaker 1: of didn't man. I mean, you know, I'm the There 797 00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:45,200 Speaker 1: was three of us to start, and I'm one that's here, 798 00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:48,239 Speaker 1: you know, and and one Frankly is in prison and 799 00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:52,480 Speaker 1: one's dead and both there's a result of drugs, man. 800 00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:57,880 Speaker 1: And you know, and Chris, Chris was not one of 801 00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:00,839 Speaker 1: the original guys, but he was in the band when 802 00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:03,320 Speaker 1: we got signed. And I think I for him because 803 00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:05,600 Speaker 1: he got clean. You know, he was on toe completely different. 804 00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:08,640 Speaker 1: My thing was just always drinking and I drink profusely, 805 00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:12,879 Speaker 1: and uh, he he did a lot of different other 806 00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:16,200 Speaker 1: other things, but uh, he got clean. And my drummer, 807 00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:20,200 Speaker 1: Greg up Church, he's been a drummer for he became. 808 00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:22,200 Speaker 1: He used to play for Puddle of Mud. And when 809 00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:24,759 Speaker 1: Daniel left and went to Nickelback. Um, that was right 810 00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:26,719 Speaker 1: after we had done a tour that was nickel Back 811 00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:29,359 Speaker 1: three doors down in Puddle of Mud, and Daniel went 812 00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:32,239 Speaker 1: to Nickelback. Greg came with us and in Greg' from 813 00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:37,480 Speaker 1: Oklahoma and uh and Greg drink like a fish too. Um. 814 00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:42,080 Speaker 1: And it got to where, you know, Chris Bye, not 815 00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:45,520 Speaker 1: so General Persuasion, went to went to rehab and he 816 00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:51,160 Speaker 1: got clean and somehow, and it's a testament to his sobriety, 817 00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:56,719 Speaker 1: stayed sober with us still partying like mad men. And 818 00:37:56,760 --> 00:38:01,840 Speaker 1: then a few years later, Greg about not so General Persuasion, 819 00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:05,400 Speaker 1: went to rehab and he got clean from just from drinking. 820 00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:07,960 Speaker 1: And man, I started seeing those guys and I was 821 00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:11,480 Speaker 1: still I knew that, I knew that I needed to 822 00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:15,759 Speaker 1: to change, and but you know, I started seeing what 823 00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:18,040 Speaker 1: those guys had, and you know, you see them over 824 00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:21,719 Speaker 1: there and they're happy, and I'm still here miserable. And 825 00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:24,719 Speaker 1: I think I for a man because seeing them like 826 00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:26,920 Speaker 1: that and through their encouragement, you know, they were They 827 00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:28,960 Speaker 1: never pushed it on me, but I was like, I 828 00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:30,920 Speaker 1: have to and they got to be where I could trace. 829 00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:33,280 Speaker 1: I was ruining my life. There was no big tragedy 830 00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:35,719 Speaker 1: or no catastrophe or anything, but I was putting my 831 00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:38,120 Speaker 1: wife through hell. I was putting everybody I knew through 832 00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:40,959 Speaker 1: hell and putting myself through hell. And I was seen 833 00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:42,720 Speaker 1: around me and I was like, I have to change. 834 00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:44,680 Speaker 1: And I went to rehab, and it's the best thing 835 00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:47,040 Speaker 1: I ever done, because I wanted to get sober, but 836 00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:50,000 Speaker 1: I didn't know how. And I went out there and 837 00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:52,320 Speaker 1: they taught me how how to deal with my problems. 838 00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:55,120 Speaker 1: Because people don't have drug addictions, they have life problems. 839 00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:57,560 Speaker 1: And they you know, they don't have drug problems, whether 840 00:38:57,600 --> 00:39:00,400 Speaker 1: they have life problems. And they sidestepped there the facing 841 00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:02,480 Speaker 1: their problems. They sided step them and use drugs. And 842 00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:04,759 Speaker 1: that's what I was doing. And and and I just 843 00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:07,680 Speaker 1: had to learn how to and I had to miss 844 00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:10,279 Speaker 1: in the gross misconception of what rehab was. I thought that, 845 00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:11,880 Speaker 1: you know, like you're going to a hospital and they 846 00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:13,600 Speaker 1: stepped you down, and like you're gonna sit here and 847 00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:15,520 Speaker 1: do you sober. But I just went out there and 848 00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:17,759 Speaker 1: they it was like going to college to learn how 849 00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:22,319 Speaker 1: to be sober. And it was awesome and it was 850 00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:24,440 Speaker 1: the best thing I've ever done. And it ain't like 851 00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:26,800 Speaker 1: you come out in your life's perfect, but it's sure 852 00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:31,080 Speaker 1: started to get a lot better. And and beans that 853 00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:34,000 Speaker 1: I was sober, and two other guys we were sober 854 00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:36,480 Speaker 1: in the band. The other two guys who didn't really 855 00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:39,920 Speaker 1: have a problems anyway, they might casually drink a little bit. 856 00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:42,520 Speaker 1: We all got sober and it was like being in 857 00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:45,520 Speaker 1: a different band. Man, I was. That's why I said, 858 00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:47,160 Speaker 1: we should could have always been like that, because we 859 00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:49,719 Speaker 1: go out there now and we didn't. We generally we 860 00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:52,920 Speaker 1: h h during our last summer to where we were 861 00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:56,839 Speaker 1: out and we uh, we were coming somewhere. We're going 862 00:39:56,920 --> 00:39:59,000 Speaker 1: from point A to point B and we were in there, 863 00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:01,560 Speaker 1: like five miles of arches National Parks. We got off 864 00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:03,600 Speaker 1: the bus and everybody went walked around the park together. 865 00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:06,520 Speaker 1: I was like, I cannot believe it. I've been in 866 00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:08,760 Speaker 1: this band for twenty years and this is the first 867 00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:10,719 Speaker 1: one of the first times I can. I could look 868 00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:13,040 Speaker 1: around and I was standing in the National Park with 869 00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:15,520 Speaker 1: all five band members in it, and I was like, man, 870 00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:17,680 Speaker 1: when you took that in, I wish you could have 871 00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:20,440 Speaker 1: always been like that. You know what's funny is you 872 00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:23,680 Speaker 1: talk about these guys are not being put in um 873 00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:25,880 Speaker 1: with gentle persuasion like my So I'll give you a a 874 00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:28,360 Speaker 1: quick backstory before I tell you the question. I appened 875 00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:31,399 Speaker 1: my mom died in authorities from drinking and drugs because 876 00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:33,439 Speaker 1: then I put into rehab a couple of times, and 877 00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:36,680 Speaker 1: she never wanted to be in rehab, so rehab never 878 00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:39,440 Speaker 1: worked for her. If that makes sense. Like when you 879 00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:41,960 Speaker 1: say they didn't want to go, I go, man, because 880 00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:45,799 Speaker 1: you have to embrace that. Really do they to hear 881 00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:47,880 Speaker 1: that they didn't want to go and it still worked 882 00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:51,759 Speaker 1: for them? It's pretty amazing, it really is. It's it 883 00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:54,160 Speaker 1: really is. It was a miracle. It was a miracle 884 00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:56,680 Speaker 1: because Crystal tell you, I mean, it's not it's not 885 00:40:56,719 --> 00:40:59,040 Speaker 1: a secret. And and we we're not and you know, 886 00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:01,560 Speaker 1: we're not ashamed of where we've been or and how 887 00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:03,839 Speaker 1: we got to where we are. And he'll tell you 888 00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:07,040 Speaker 1: that he was bad and I was bad, just on 889 00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:11,360 Speaker 1: a different on a different kid, you know. And and 890 00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:15,200 Speaker 1: when he when he had to go, it was he 891 00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:17,400 Speaker 1: had to go. I mean he had to go and 892 00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:20,160 Speaker 1: and and I think when he got there, he like 893 00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:24,040 Speaker 1: realized it's like okay, it's I think he realized it's like, okay, 894 00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:27,640 Speaker 1: it's this or death. It was that that close. Was 895 00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:29,759 Speaker 1: it was that much of a problem. Was do you 896 00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:31,880 Speaker 1: do the thing? Because so I've never had drink of 897 00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:35,040 Speaker 1: alcohol because I like, I see my mom died from it. 898 00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:36,880 Speaker 1: I don't know my real dad because an alcohol Like 899 00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:38,480 Speaker 1: I have a lot of family problems with this. I 900 00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:39,719 Speaker 1: was early on I was like, I'm not gonna have 901 00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:42,279 Speaker 1: this happen to me. But what happens is people will 902 00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:45,279 Speaker 1: treat me different, even though I'm let everybody drink around 903 00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:47,440 Speaker 1: me like I'm good. But I have to face. I 904 00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:49,279 Speaker 1: was out a couple of nights ago and I was 905 00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:51,759 Speaker 1: meeting up with a friend, new friend, and I have 906 00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:53,800 Speaker 1: to get there early and order something that looks like 907 00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:56,279 Speaker 1: a drink, or people treat me completely. They'll go, you 908 00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:58,359 Speaker 1: know what if you're not drinking, and I'm like, no, no, 909 00:41:58,400 --> 00:41:59,799 Speaker 1: just beat yourself. I want to do you have those 910 00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:01,520 Speaker 1: alun whe people who go, oh, he's sober. Now we 911 00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:03,600 Speaker 1: have to act different? And do you want them to 912 00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:06,640 Speaker 1: act different? Do you need them to act different? Do you? 913 00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:08,440 Speaker 1: And do you feel like sometimes you have to kind 914 00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:13,200 Speaker 1: of go guys, it's good, yeah, because I do all 915 00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:15,480 Speaker 1: the time. I was read a thing on it was 916 00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:18,800 Speaker 1: a postal Instagram not longer. It's it said is that 917 00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:21,279 Speaker 1: follow a few recovery pages and stuff on there, and 918 00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:24,440 Speaker 1: one of them it said it said, uh, alcohol is 919 00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:28,680 Speaker 1: the only drug you have two justified not doing? Oh? Yeah, true, 920 00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:31,719 Speaker 1: you're right, because it's it's such a social such a 921 00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:35,440 Speaker 1: social drug, you know that. Yeah, that's wild. You're like, 922 00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:37,200 Speaker 1: why don't you Why don't you drink? And it's like, 923 00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:40,719 Speaker 1: because I do, because I'm allergic to it. That's what 924 00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:44,280 Speaker 1: I just tell I'm allergic to alcohol. You know that's crazy. 925 00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:46,040 Speaker 1: And listen, that's a great story. I didn't even I 926 00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:48,440 Speaker 1: wasn't gonna spear off into that. But I'm comfortable talking 927 00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:50,080 Speaker 1: about my story and it's great to hear somebody else 928 00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:52,640 Speaker 1: that that is the same. Um, well, let's talk about 929 00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:54,600 Speaker 1: here without you, because this is the second of where. 930 00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:55,719 Speaker 1: This is where we are in the live I'm for 931 00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:58,080 Speaker 1: freaking three doors down and this one this is it. 932 00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:00,000 Speaker 1: This is the train. This is the train that really 933 00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:03,640 Speaker 1: like cements you guys as we are for real here 934 00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:06,399 Speaker 1: it is. Did you know this was the song? Did 935 00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:09,000 Speaker 1: you feel it? Um? You know it's it's kind of weird. 936 00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:10,759 Speaker 1: I had to fight for the song to be on 937 00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:12,960 Speaker 1: the record, and not against the record company or anybody, 938 00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:15,719 Speaker 1: but against my guitar but not Chris Matt, my first 939 00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:17,799 Speaker 1: guitar player, the woman that passed away. He fought me 940 00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:20,960 Speaker 1: tooth and nail about putting this song on the record. 941 00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:24,839 Speaker 1: He did not want He's like man, because he thought 942 00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:27,440 Speaker 1: it was he thought it was cc like a ballad 943 00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:30,239 Speaker 1: because it's like a it's a love song. No love 944 00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:32,319 Speaker 1: songs for three Doors Down, no ballads. He did not 945 00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:39,040 Speaker 1: want it. They're kind of stup. Come on, listen to this. 946 00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:42,239 Speaker 1: Did you know immediately when it was released that it 947 00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:47,600 Speaker 1: was well received, that the record company had a lot 948 00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:49,640 Speaker 1: of I think had more faith in that than we did, 949 00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:51,400 Speaker 1: because I was a little leary of it too, because 950 00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:53,960 Speaker 1: of people saying your close stock going I don't know, 951 00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:58,239 Speaker 1: I don't know, and you know, and I think, what's 952 00:43:58,239 --> 00:44:00,839 Speaker 1: a what's a good gauge for me? This wound up 953 00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:04,360 Speaker 1: being our biggest song. And and I say that in 954 00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:07,160 Speaker 1: the modern sense, I guess because I use YouTube as 955 00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:11,200 Speaker 1: a gauge. Um, because you know, being were universal artists, 956 00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:17,080 Speaker 1: they have what is it, uh uh vimo, Vivo Vivo. 957 00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:20,560 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, um, they have Vivo. So they took all 958 00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:24,000 Speaker 1: the universal catalog awfu of YouTube and they put it 959 00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:27,120 Speaker 1: all back on it once. So even though Kryptonite came 960 00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:29,440 Speaker 1: out a few years before Here Without You, or a 961 00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:31,960 Speaker 1: couple of years before Hit About You, they both got 962 00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:35,719 Speaker 1: a reboot and start over on the same day. And 963 00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:38,760 Speaker 1: I think Kryptonite has like two hundred something million views 964 00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:42,720 Speaker 1: on there. Here Without You has four hundred eighty nine 965 00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:45,320 Speaker 1: million views. I was like, well was that I have 966 00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:48,279 Speaker 1: a billion views? So I was like, what did That's 967 00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:50,200 Speaker 1: crazy and it's still going. I mean, you can look 968 00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:51,879 Speaker 1: on there now and I'll bet there's a comment from 969 00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:56,360 Speaker 1: like three hours ago. That's crazy. And that digital you know, 970 00:44:56,480 --> 00:44:59,120 Speaker 1: and that's how you get paid now, those digital plays. 971 00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:03,200 Speaker 1: There's that's money. That's crazy. It really is, um And 972 00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:05,719 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm just incredibly thankful for it. Man I 973 00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:09,880 Speaker 1: I can't. I'm I think I'm just thankful for it. 974 00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:14,359 Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you whenever um like Away from the Sun, 975 00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:21,160 Speaker 1: I love that one. You like this again, slow ish 976 00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:23,640 Speaker 1: Away from the Sun. I was like, man, I can't 977 00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:25,560 Speaker 1: say any of the songs on the shower. I'm pretty good, Brad. 978 00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:27,680 Speaker 1: I can see something's really good in the shower, but 979 00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:28,920 Speaker 1: you have to hear me there. It's probably not a 980 00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:30,800 Speaker 1: place for us to go. But like this was a 981 00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:33,600 Speaker 1: jam too, Like that is my song. Yeah, if there's 982 00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:36,640 Speaker 1: never been a song, and I still feel it sometimes, 983 00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:40,040 Speaker 1: I mean, but I tell you know, when I'm telling 984 00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:42,239 Speaker 1: the story of the acoustic shows, you know, if there's 985 00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:44,319 Speaker 1: one song that I had to choose to represent me. 986 00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:46,799 Speaker 1: This is this is why is that? I don't know, 987 00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:48,200 Speaker 1: I just feel it, you know, And I think we 988 00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:51,400 Speaker 1: can all. I think we all just feel like we're 989 00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:54,000 Speaker 1: we're climbing a heel. You know. It's only video that 990 00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:57,000 Speaker 1: I ever really had anything to do with, like conceptually 991 00:45:57,600 --> 00:46:00,000 Speaker 1: and um. And it's just a kid who's actually my 992 00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:02,719 Speaker 1: nephew plays the character in this video. And he'd never 993 00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:04,799 Speaker 1: been in a in a video or anything. And we 994 00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:06,040 Speaker 1: were talking about it and they were like, all right, 995 00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:07,360 Speaker 1: we'll find a kid. And I was like, got it. 996 00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:10,520 Speaker 1: Got him and he lives in the Mississippi lived in 997 00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:12,920 Speaker 1: Mississippi at the time, so you got to him. My 998 00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:14,759 Speaker 1: sister got to fly out to l a and and 999 00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:16,600 Speaker 1: he had to be in a video and stuff. But 1000 00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:18,560 Speaker 1: he's done a great job. You watch the video was 1001 00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:21,440 Speaker 1: like dang and good. But and that's a kid. He's 1002 00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:24,680 Speaker 1: just bound with all these leather straps and he's found 1003 00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:28,359 Speaker 1: to these big stones. He's dragging up this hill and 1004 00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:31,000 Speaker 1: he'll get to go in and it shows different like 1005 00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:35,080 Speaker 1: images of mirages or things that he sees, like you know, 1006 00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:38,759 Speaker 1: people talking about him and being bullied, and those are 1007 00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:40,840 Speaker 1: the things that knocks him back down. And it shows 1008 00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:45,440 Speaker 1: his his father slapping back down and and uh and 1009 00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:47,520 Speaker 1: and it shows like an angel at one point kind 1010 00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:50,200 Speaker 1: of guiding him come on this way. And and I 1011 00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:52,800 Speaker 1: think we can all relate to that that we're all 1012 00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:56,640 Speaker 1: in some way climbing that hill that jam. I love 1013 00:46:56,719 --> 00:46:58,600 Speaker 1: that song, Thank you man. That's why I still listen 1014 00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:02,280 Speaker 1: to Thank You. You know, I don't I don't curse 1015 00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:04,600 Speaker 1: my personal life, and I definitely don't curse on stage, 1016 00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:08,560 Speaker 1: like I have my my shows to be completely clean. Um. 1017 00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:10,640 Speaker 1: And I know that's the same thing with you guys. 1018 00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:13,440 Speaker 1: Now do you do if the bands are opening for 1019 00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:15,080 Speaker 1: you have songs with curse words, you have that talk 1020 00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:17,319 Speaker 1: with them like, hey, we don't do that, or not 1021 00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:21,319 Speaker 1: we shy away from a band and if they get 1022 00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:23,360 Speaker 1: out there, you know it's one thing. It was the festival. 1023 00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:26,640 Speaker 1: You can't really say and and I don't speak perfectly 1024 00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:29,280 Speaker 1: in my private life, but do not cuss on stage. 1025 00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:33,000 Speaker 1: And and that also goes back to my mama told 1026 00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:34,719 Speaker 1: me I better not get out this. She's said to Brad. 1027 00:47:35,120 --> 00:47:36,919 Speaker 1: My mom has other baptist of the bones. She said 1028 00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:39,239 Speaker 1: to Brad, you gotta do comes on that stage. Don't 1029 00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:42,800 Speaker 1: be shamed of you. So I never did, and and 1030 00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:45,680 Speaker 1: and but you know it's worked out and people value 1031 00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:48,160 Speaker 1: that very very much because I can't tell you, you know, 1032 00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:51,279 Speaker 1: especially we're having songs about Superman and this and that. 1033 00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:53,319 Speaker 1: We have a lot of kids at our shows, and 1034 00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:54,800 Speaker 1: we still have a lot of kids at our shows. 1035 00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:56,880 Speaker 1: It's like just the next generation of them, which is 1036 00:47:57,280 --> 00:48:00,360 Speaker 1: freaking cool. It's the kids of the kids, yeah it is. 1037 00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:04,440 Speaker 1: And um and but I I've over the years had 1038 00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:06,239 Speaker 1: so many parents come up to me and said thank 1039 00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:07,480 Speaker 1: you for putting on the show that I can bring 1040 00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:09,840 Speaker 1: my kids too. And and you know, we really have 1041 00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:13,959 Speaker 1: tried over the years to kind of two I mean, 1042 00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:16,760 Speaker 1: you know, hey, man, come on, you know you can't. 1043 00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:19,919 Speaker 1: How do we hate to try to control an opening band. 1044 00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:21,920 Speaker 1: But they got out the humor volga or something. We 1045 00:48:22,040 --> 00:48:24,120 Speaker 1: definitely say something to them about it. Yeah, I will 1046 00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:26,280 Speaker 1: have that talk with my openers, like I'll bring music 1047 00:48:26,719 --> 00:48:29,840 Speaker 1: as because I'll when when I tour, I'll go and 1048 00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:31,680 Speaker 1: I'll do an hour set of stand up. But I 1049 00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:33,160 Speaker 1: kind of treat like a variety show. I have someone 1050 00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:35,759 Speaker 1: coming to open musically for me, and I have to 1051 00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:38,360 Speaker 1: talk like, hey, people, it's not a kid's show, but 1052 00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:40,280 Speaker 1: there may be some kids in the crowd, but people 1053 00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:42,319 Speaker 1: feel like this is safe space. Like don't get out 1054 00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:44,040 Speaker 1: there and be political, don't get out there and be 1055 00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:47,080 Speaker 1: dropping F bombs and S bombs. Like, just know that 1056 00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:48,759 Speaker 1: people feel like this is a spot for them to 1057 00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:52,080 Speaker 1: come and breathe and smile and taking a show. And 1058 00:48:52,080 --> 00:48:53,840 Speaker 1: there can be some kids. And if it's PT thirteen, 1059 00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:56,359 Speaker 1: that's all right, or if it's SpongeBob Escort you make 1060 00:48:56,360 --> 00:48:59,120 Speaker 1: a joke that's the only adults will get and kids 1061 00:48:59,160 --> 00:49:02,799 Speaker 1: really won't. That's okay too. But that's a you know, 1062 00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:06,399 Speaker 1: I do that, and people appreciate that because they don't 1063 00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:07,839 Speaker 1: have to come in and worry and sit and go 1064 00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:10,920 Speaker 1: all right, is this gonna be a place where one 1065 00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:13,160 Speaker 1: of the ways I'm gonna feel uncomfortable? I don't want that, 1066 00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:15,600 Speaker 1: And that's that's awesome that you do that too, man, 1067 00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:17,480 Speaker 1: because it's not a whole lot of that in the 1068 00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:20,359 Speaker 1: world right now. It's cool. I mean, it's better. It's 1069 00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:24,759 Speaker 1: better like that too. And and also that's quality. You know, 1070 00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:27,279 Speaker 1: you don't need that, you don't when you I don't 1071 00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:29,319 Speaker 1: feel like I need Like, yeah, I feel like, because 1072 00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:32,040 Speaker 1: you put on a quality show and you're entertaining, guy, 1073 00:49:32,520 --> 00:49:34,520 Speaker 1: you don't need that. I appreciate that. I don't know 1074 00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:37,520 Speaker 1: about that, exactly appreciated. I appreciate what you think about. 1075 00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:39,640 Speaker 1: I was listening to some of these bands talk about, like, 1076 00:49:39,680 --> 00:49:44,480 Speaker 1: imagine dragons, they're really big, but when you get so big, 1077 00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:46,080 Speaker 1: you start to get a lot of hate, and they 1078 00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:47,719 Speaker 1: imagine dragons A get a lot of hate from a 1079 00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:51,040 Speaker 1: lot of these quote unquote finger quote legit rock artists 1080 00:49:52,239 --> 00:49:56,040 Speaker 1: like Nickelback gets hate for their music. Wh how do 1081 00:49:56,080 --> 00:49:58,279 Speaker 1: you feel like, imagine dragons getting all this hate right now? 1082 00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:01,239 Speaker 1: I didn't know that they were. Who are the bands, 1083 00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:03,120 Speaker 1: Mike that are like out ripping imagineaty slip not it's 1084 00:50:03,120 --> 00:50:05,000 Speaker 1: pretty big on ripping them slip now. They're like, you're 1085 00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:08,399 Speaker 1: not real rock? What even is real when it comes 1086 00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:13,800 Speaker 1: to art? I mean, those guys real monsters, right the 1087 00:50:14,680 --> 00:50:18,160 Speaker 1: mask on stage? You're right about that? When you did 1088 00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:20,040 Speaker 1: you guys ever start feeling that hate because you've got 1089 00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:23,080 Speaker 1: so big? Did um from from? It was? It was 1090 00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:25,400 Speaker 1: like those little movement bands, and it was from bands 1091 00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:28,200 Speaker 1: like some forty one and then those I like, I mean, 1092 00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:30,239 Speaker 1: I don't mean to stick as they say, spelled the tea, 1093 00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:32,200 Speaker 1: who is it? I mean, it's just all those like, 1094 00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:34,680 Speaker 1: you know, those those movement bands, the punk bands that 1095 00:50:34,719 --> 00:50:36,960 Speaker 1: come through and then this little movement comes, you know, 1096 00:50:37,120 --> 00:50:41,320 Speaker 1: and we were we were never like the cool guys. Um. 1097 00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:43,960 Speaker 1: But at the same time, it's like we've done a 1098 00:50:43,960 --> 00:50:46,279 Speaker 1: lot of the stuff that we've done sort of under 1099 00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:49,200 Speaker 1: the radar, you know, because we were never like big 1100 00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:52,319 Speaker 1: enough that that We've got a lot of hate. You know, 1101 00:50:52,600 --> 00:50:53,840 Speaker 1: I would say that you guys are one of the 1102 00:50:53,880 --> 00:50:57,000 Speaker 1: most underrated bands in my lifetime because of the amount 1103 00:50:57,000 --> 00:51:00,520 Speaker 1: of hits you have, and people unfair they don't put 1104 00:51:00,520 --> 00:51:05,520 Speaker 1: you in that conversation of the sounds that changed other 1105 00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:08,600 Speaker 1: and influenced other sounds, because again we we don't even 1106 00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:11,320 Speaker 1: play all your hits. I just would have like nine 1107 00:51:11,920 --> 00:51:15,640 Speaker 1: ten humongous songs. Here we're talking about humongous songs that 1108 00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:18,640 Speaker 1: crossed the genres. And you know, I feel like you 1109 00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:20,680 Speaker 1: guys are super underrated. Would you think that three Doors 1110 00:51:20,719 --> 00:51:22,800 Speaker 1: Down an unrety band. It's hard, it's hard to be 1111 00:51:22,920 --> 00:51:24,719 Speaker 1: humble and say yes, But I wonder, I wonder what 1112 00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:28,040 Speaker 1: you say, Um, we never got a lot of attention. 1113 00:51:28,560 --> 00:51:32,880 Speaker 1: But but it's okay, I'm cool with it. Wouldn't not me. 1114 00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:35,759 Speaker 1: I'm too competitive because I always felt sorry, you know, 1115 00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:40,799 Speaker 1: like just's just say like it's easy to easy to say, 1116 00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:43,560 Speaker 1: Like Britney Spears always felt sorry for her man living 1117 00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:46,560 Speaker 1: under that microscope. It would drive me crazy too. I 1118 00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:48,680 Speaker 1: know she had like her little episode and stuff, but 1119 00:51:48,760 --> 00:51:52,000 Speaker 1: I mean, when there's constantly I can't imagine walking out 1120 00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:56,080 Speaker 1: of every restaurant, heavy establishment, everywhere that I went, somebody 1121 00:51:56,160 --> 00:51:58,960 Speaker 1: standing there with the camera or something. Are always wanting 1122 00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:02,120 Speaker 1: to just living under the microscopes. I never always used 1123 00:52:02,120 --> 00:52:04,080 Speaker 1: to say, men, I love being a radio band because 1124 00:52:04,120 --> 00:52:06,080 Speaker 1: everybody knows their songs. They don't know what I look like, 1125 00:52:06,360 --> 00:52:07,840 Speaker 1: and so I can sell a bunch of racers, but 1126 00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:11,479 Speaker 1: I can see go to Walmart. That's funny you mentioned 1127 00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:12,880 Speaker 1: Walmart because I was talking to a friend of mine 1128 00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:14,600 Speaker 1: who lives in Boston. I was like, growing up, we 1129 00:52:14,680 --> 00:52:17,120 Speaker 1: used to hang out of Walmart. Like you go to Walmart, 1130 00:52:17,640 --> 00:52:19,799 Speaker 1: you know, you're in the parking lot, or you're in 1131 00:52:19,880 --> 00:52:22,880 Speaker 1: Walmart or Sonic like in the South, that's where you 1132 00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:25,719 Speaker 1: hang out. And he was like Walmart. I was like yeah, 1133 00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:27,400 Speaker 1: and like we used to go and hang out the 1134 00:52:27,600 --> 00:52:30,319 Speaker 1: jets of Belle Walmart, Like, all right, Friday night, we'll 1135 00:52:30,360 --> 00:52:32,480 Speaker 1: go and quote cruise, you know, you drive around this 1136 00:52:32,520 --> 00:52:34,880 Speaker 1: little square and then we'll just end up at the Walmart. 1137 00:52:35,080 --> 00:52:36,960 Speaker 1: And you know, it's funny that you would say that, 1138 00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:39,400 Speaker 1: because that's that's totally a Southern thing to like to 1139 00:52:39,440 --> 00:52:42,960 Speaker 1: hang out of Walmart. That's funny, man. So but did 1140 00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:44,759 Speaker 1: they ever do the thing with you guys where they go, hey, 1141 00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:47,759 Speaker 1: you should like they had another celebrity, because if you 1142 00:52:47,800 --> 00:52:49,560 Speaker 1: do that, they can raise the image of the band. 1143 00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:52,640 Speaker 1: They ever did that with you guys? You know I 1144 00:52:52,640 --> 00:52:56,200 Speaker 1: would have been like, Brad, there's Christina Aguilera. I'm gonna 1145 00:52:56,200 --> 00:52:57,879 Speaker 1: set you up right now. Do you ever think about 1146 00:52:57,880 --> 00:52:59,560 Speaker 1: moving to Los Angeles? Did you move to Los Angeles? 1147 00:53:01,040 --> 00:53:03,160 Speaker 1: Not only only while we were making a record? How 1148 00:53:03,200 --> 00:53:05,640 Speaker 1: they there for like a month? They ever say in 1149 00:53:05,640 --> 00:53:07,040 Speaker 1: the movie need to get where the action is and 1150 00:53:07,120 --> 00:53:09,720 Speaker 1: live there to be a part of it. Not so much. 1151 00:53:09,880 --> 00:53:12,000 Speaker 1: I think they kind of wanted us to move to 1152 00:53:12,160 --> 00:53:14,799 Speaker 1: New York for like a little bit, and I was like, uh, 1153 00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:16,799 Speaker 1: what was up with that? But why do they think 1154 00:53:16,840 --> 00:53:18,879 Speaker 1: that was a good idea? Just to be in being 1155 00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:22,040 Speaker 1: just like amongst the label and just being amongst the 1156 00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:26,399 Speaker 1: business and everything. Um, but I just I couldn't do it, man, 1157 00:53:26,520 --> 00:53:29,160 Speaker 1: I am I am a country mouse. I can't do it. 1158 00:53:29,280 --> 00:53:31,840 Speaker 1: What's home life for you? Like now, we live on 1159 00:53:31,880 --> 00:53:34,720 Speaker 1: a farm out in Murphysborough. My wife, Barrol, racist horses, 1160 00:53:34,719 --> 00:53:36,560 Speaker 1: and we have six horses at our house. We got 1161 00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:39,279 Speaker 1: a fifty acre farm, which I never thought i'd have 1162 00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:41,120 Speaker 1: much that much land. And it's kind of out in 1163 00:53:41,160 --> 00:53:43,160 Speaker 1: the country, but it's at the same time, I got 1164 00:53:43,160 --> 00:53:45,960 Speaker 1: a grocery store like six miles from the house, and 1165 00:53:45,960 --> 00:53:49,520 Speaker 1: and it's not fancy, but it's it's my heaven. And 1166 00:53:49,760 --> 00:53:52,120 Speaker 1: I will get there and if we have stuff to eat, 1167 00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:54,600 Speaker 1: and I'll go home and the gate closes behind me 1168 00:53:54,600 --> 00:53:57,080 Speaker 1: and I won't leave for three or four days. As 1169 00:53:57,320 --> 00:54:00,920 Speaker 1: we do. I assume you have help. We have. My 1170 00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:03,719 Speaker 1: my friend comes and feeds horses when we're out of 1171 00:54:03,719 --> 00:54:05,920 Speaker 1: town or something if I'm gone. And I have some 1172 00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:08,840 Speaker 1: guys that cut part of the yard, but just because 1173 00:54:08,840 --> 00:54:10,759 Speaker 1: I don't have enough time to cut it all, they 1174 00:54:10,760 --> 00:54:13,200 Speaker 1: probably cut like because I have to mow it all 1175 00:54:13,239 --> 00:54:15,799 Speaker 1: because some of us back in the woods and some 1176 00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:17,719 Speaker 1: of it like the horse pastures may only cut a 1177 00:54:17,719 --> 00:54:20,000 Speaker 1: couple of times, maybe once a month, just to kind 1178 00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:23,759 Speaker 1: of knock them, knock the tops off, um, because they 1179 00:54:23,800 --> 00:54:25,680 Speaker 1: won't eat it once it gets a certain height. They 1180 00:54:25,680 --> 00:54:28,400 Speaker 1: have their we have phenicky horses. They're spoiled. But there 1181 00:54:28,440 --> 00:54:34,359 Speaker 1: are kids. Um, but you know that, right. Um. So 1182 00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:39,160 Speaker 1: they cut probably ten acres and I cut the pastures 1183 00:54:39,200 --> 00:54:42,319 Speaker 1: and we do it all ourselves. When when I leave here, 1184 00:54:42,360 --> 00:54:44,720 Speaker 1: I'm going home to clean horse steals. And you're smiling 1185 00:54:44,760 --> 00:54:46,600 Speaker 1: as you say it, like it's like you love it. 1186 00:54:46,680 --> 00:54:49,560 Speaker 1: I like they're my babies though, because we don't have kids. 1187 00:54:49,600 --> 00:54:52,399 Speaker 1: Our horses are kids. And and and now I say, 1188 00:54:52,440 --> 00:54:55,319 Speaker 1: I'll smile about it here, I'll run about it, but 1189 00:54:55,320 --> 00:54:57,640 Speaker 1: I'm standing here doing it. But you know, there are 1190 00:54:57,760 --> 00:55:00,200 Speaker 1: a lot of times when I'm busy and just kind 1191 00:55:00,239 --> 00:55:02,560 Speaker 1: of going and going and going back. Man, I would 1192 00:55:02,600 --> 00:55:04,839 Speaker 1: love to be standing on in my barn right now. 1193 00:55:05,760 --> 00:55:08,200 Speaker 1: And it's just I mean it's peaceful, you know. And 1194 00:55:08,239 --> 00:55:10,560 Speaker 1: you get to do both. You get to be alone 1195 00:55:11,560 --> 00:55:13,319 Speaker 1: on your property and then you get to go and 1196 00:55:13,360 --> 00:55:17,560 Speaker 1: play shows and still have that lifestyle too and sing 1197 00:55:17,560 --> 00:55:20,560 Speaker 1: your songs. It's a blessing. And how often are you 1198 00:55:20,560 --> 00:55:23,200 Speaker 1: guys on the road right now? Oh? We go right 1199 00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:26,480 Speaker 1: now like every other weekend, and I have shows this 1200 00:55:26,520 --> 00:55:30,839 Speaker 1: weekend and next weekend, and we have a a little 1201 00:55:30,840 --> 00:55:32,400 Speaker 1: more coming up later on in the summer, and then 1202 00:55:32,480 --> 00:55:34,879 Speaker 1: next year will be the twentieth anniversary of The Better Life, 1203 00:55:34,920 --> 00:55:37,480 Speaker 1: and we're gonna do like a full world world tour 1204 00:55:37,600 --> 00:55:39,479 Speaker 1: on that one. Is that right? Is? That'll be fun 1205 00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:43,759 Speaker 1: and but I look forward to it. But I'm not 1206 00:55:43,800 --> 00:55:46,479 Speaker 1: twenty one years already anymore. Do you ever think about, 1207 00:55:46,480 --> 00:55:49,480 Speaker 1: because you know, the big thing with and not for me, 1208 00:55:49,680 --> 00:55:51,200 Speaker 1: but the big thing with a lot of people that 1209 00:55:51,320 --> 00:55:53,240 Speaker 1: go in country music, they're like, what that any country 1210 00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:55,520 Speaker 1: like yours country? As it gets? Do you ever think 1211 00:55:55,520 --> 00:55:57,480 Speaker 1: about doing a country song and country record? I've been 1212 00:55:57,520 --> 00:55:59,680 Speaker 1: writing some lately, and I wrote about half of a 1213 00:56:00,120 --> 00:56:03,440 Speaker 1: country record one time. But honestly, I took it in in. 1214 00:56:03,840 --> 00:56:05,640 Speaker 1: I was talking to some record guys about it, and 1215 00:56:05,640 --> 00:56:08,440 Speaker 1: it's like sale, I said, why, They said, because it's 1216 00:56:09,040 --> 00:56:11,920 Speaker 1: because it's like it's really country in the two countries. 1217 00:56:12,120 --> 00:56:16,200 Speaker 1: Like help, what'd you listen to growing up? Um? I was. 1218 00:56:16,360 --> 00:56:18,880 Speaker 1: I'm the youngest seven kids, so I grew up listening 1219 00:56:18,880 --> 00:56:21,560 Speaker 1: to whatever My brother's sisters listened to when I was 1220 00:56:21,560 --> 00:56:24,920 Speaker 1: a kid. My favorite band growing up was bon Jovi, 1221 00:56:25,360 --> 00:56:27,080 Speaker 1: and I grew up on the eighties rock and I 1222 00:56:27,160 --> 00:56:30,640 Speaker 1: loved it and loved it and and honestly, when when 1223 00:56:30,719 --> 00:56:33,279 Speaker 1: Nirvana and Stuff came out, I kind of fell off 1224 00:56:33,320 --> 00:56:35,520 Speaker 1: of it. I wasn't ready for it. I was too 1225 00:56:35,560 --> 00:56:38,320 Speaker 1: young for it, I think or something. And I listened 1226 00:56:38,360 --> 00:56:41,440 Speaker 1: to probably more country growing up than like my all 1227 00:56:41,480 --> 00:56:43,759 Speaker 1: time favorite songs the dance from Garthen Oh Yeah, I 1228 00:56:43,800 --> 00:56:46,000 Speaker 1: love it? You ever meet Garth? I never had the 1229 00:56:46,040 --> 00:56:47,680 Speaker 1: best You'd love him? Hiss a trust heater? What was 1230 00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:49,879 Speaker 1: up here? A few days ago? And I got a chance. 1231 00:56:50,000 --> 00:56:51,640 Speaker 1: I got to know Garth. A love that Garth played. 1232 00:56:51,680 --> 00:56:52,919 Speaker 1: You know the show you played with this this year. 1233 00:56:53,040 --> 00:56:55,040 Speaker 1: I think you played with us the year before. I 1234 00:56:55,040 --> 00:56:57,799 Speaker 1: know it's awesome. I love Garth Brooks. I would love 1235 00:56:57,840 --> 00:56:59,960 Speaker 1: to meet him. He's and he's a He's a guy 1236 00:57:00,120 --> 00:57:02,600 Speaker 1: too that you know. I've I've learned a bit from 1237 00:57:02,600 --> 00:57:05,120 Speaker 1: when like with people like Garth, Brust walks into a 1238 00:57:05,239 --> 00:57:07,880 Speaker 1: room and every single person doesn't matter who you are, 1239 00:57:07,880 --> 00:57:10,160 Speaker 1: it gets the same attention. And Garth looks you in 1240 00:57:10,200 --> 00:57:12,760 Speaker 1: the eye and he spends time and when Garth leaves, 1241 00:57:12,800 --> 00:57:16,440 Speaker 1: you go. That was amazing. Yeah, And I think Taylor 1242 00:57:16,560 --> 00:57:19,000 Speaker 1: Swift learned from Garth and I'm just trying to get 1243 00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:20,880 Speaker 1: his crumbles and like I just want to learn, you know, 1244 00:57:20,920 --> 00:57:22,240 Speaker 1: did anyone to take kind of take you under the 1245 00:57:22,280 --> 00:57:24,880 Speaker 1: wing a bit or at least go, Brad, this is 1246 00:57:24,880 --> 00:57:26,640 Speaker 1: what's gonna have Like other artists who would be like, 1247 00:57:26,840 --> 00:57:28,600 Speaker 1: this is what you gotta do or was that kind 1248 00:57:28,600 --> 00:57:30,720 Speaker 1: of not cool? Then I never knew a whole lot 1249 00:57:30,760 --> 00:57:36,120 Speaker 1: of them. I never knew like a ton of artists. Um, 1250 00:57:36,160 --> 00:57:37,840 Speaker 1: but I guess the people that you meet along the 1251 00:57:37,840 --> 00:57:42,000 Speaker 1: way do do kind of let you, let you uh, 1252 00:57:42,200 --> 00:57:44,720 Speaker 1: let you have some info. And but you know, we 1253 00:57:44,800 --> 00:57:48,840 Speaker 1: had the opportunity of there earlier in our career to 1254 00:57:48,840 --> 00:57:50,760 Speaker 1: to work with Alex Lisson. He produced a couple of 1255 00:57:50,800 --> 00:57:53,760 Speaker 1: be size fortune and guitar player for Ruish and and 1256 00:57:54,040 --> 00:57:57,640 Speaker 1: he had some pretty interesting conversations with him, and he's 1257 00:57:57,680 --> 00:58:01,320 Speaker 1: a great, great guy. And um, you know, I think 1258 00:58:01,400 --> 00:58:04,600 Speaker 1: what meant more to me than anything was I was 1259 00:58:04,720 --> 00:58:07,000 Speaker 1: very fortunate to meet like you say that that Garth 1260 00:58:07,120 --> 00:58:09,240 Speaker 1: comes into the room and he's like everybody gets attention, 1261 00:58:09,280 --> 00:58:11,480 Speaker 1: and he's a he's like a real person. And I 1262 00:58:11,560 --> 00:58:15,280 Speaker 1: was very fortunate to be around some just for moments 1263 00:58:15,440 --> 00:58:19,160 Speaker 1: here and they're like really famous people like that, and 1264 00:58:19,240 --> 00:58:22,479 Speaker 1: see that, just get a chance to see that. Wow, 1265 00:58:22,720 --> 00:58:25,960 Speaker 1: it's just he's just a dude. Dude, Yeah, just a 1266 00:58:26,000 --> 00:58:28,680 Speaker 1: freaking dude. Fans make us who we are. Man, I'm 1267 00:58:28,720 --> 00:58:31,800 Speaker 1: just the before my my when I got signed, I 1268 00:58:31,880 --> 00:58:33,960 Speaker 1: drove a forklift, and before that, I drove a bush 1269 00:58:33,960 --> 00:58:37,840 Speaker 1: halt tractor, I mowed tank fields. And I'm I'm so 1270 00:58:37,960 --> 00:58:39,440 Speaker 1: thankful I get to play in a rock band for 1271 00:58:39,440 --> 00:58:46,240 Speaker 1: a living. Just humans. Yeah, it's crazy that it's other 1272 00:58:46,520 --> 00:58:50,920 Speaker 1: people that make other people like Garth. It is just 1273 00:58:50,960 --> 00:58:53,720 Speaker 1: a good dude who has a skill at being Somebody 1274 00:58:53,720 --> 00:58:55,880 Speaker 1: else may have a skill like a brain surgeon, you know, 1275 00:58:56,040 --> 00:58:59,080 Speaker 1: at learning how how math works. They don't get that 1276 00:58:59,120 --> 00:59:01,320 Speaker 1: because people don't make a that. Imagine a math if 1277 00:59:01,640 --> 00:59:05,160 Speaker 1: in America, if people that did good math were celebrities 1278 00:59:05,360 --> 00:59:07,479 Speaker 1: or count wuld be way ahead of China. They're taking 1279 00:59:07,480 --> 00:59:09,920 Speaker 1: our butts right now exactly because we need we need, 1280 00:59:10,040 --> 00:59:12,560 Speaker 1: like we need to start a movement to make mathematicians cool. 1281 00:59:13,200 --> 00:59:14,600 Speaker 1: Get us out and get us up and out of there. 1282 00:59:14,880 --> 00:59:16,320 Speaker 1: Way so you do you drove folk? Left? Word? You 1283 00:59:16,360 --> 00:59:19,600 Speaker 1: do that? At down in Passacola, Mississippi Electric Motor Shop, 1284 00:59:19,880 --> 00:59:23,360 Speaker 1: I've cleaned like electric motor we rebuilt electric motors and 1285 00:59:23,400 --> 00:59:26,000 Speaker 1: things like that, and and us I clean parts and 1286 00:59:26,000 --> 00:59:28,320 Speaker 1: and be blast them and stuff like that. But mainly 1287 00:59:28,360 --> 00:59:31,040 Speaker 1: probably drove more than anything. Could you hop back on 1288 00:59:31,040 --> 00:59:33,439 Speaker 1: one right now and feel like a bike? You could? 1289 00:59:34,240 --> 00:59:36,040 Speaker 1: I have two jackets at home and that stay on 1290 00:59:36,200 --> 00:59:38,360 Speaker 1: all the time. Let me ask you a simple one. 1291 00:59:38,600 --> 00:59:41,040 Speaker 1: Where did the name come from? Three doors down? Um? 1292 00:59:41,080 --> 00:59:44,480 Speaker 1: It came off of an old boarded up building on 1293 00:59:44,640 --> 00:59:47,960 Speaker 1: us actually um we um. We used to get down 1294 00:59:48,000 --> 00:59:50,120 Speaker 1: to Gulf Shores a lot and which is like the 1295 00:59:50,160 --> 00:59:52,720 Speaker 1: beachs down in Alabama, but pretty close to where we 1296 00:59:52,760 --> 00:59:56,000 Speaker 1: grew up. And driving down there you went through, uh 1297 00:59:56,440 --> 00:59:58,760 Speaker 1: a little town that was just full of fruit stands. 1298 00:59:59,320 --> 01:00:02,160 Speaker 1: And there would be several of those fruit stands in 1299 01:00:02,200 --> 01:00:05,200 Speaker 1: one building. And we had a gig, like our first 1300 01:00:05,200 --> 01:00:08,880 Speaker 1: show that night coming back and we didn't have a name, 1301 01:00:09,320 --> 01:00:12,120 Speaker 1: and we had like a notebook full of names. And 1302 01:00:12,720 --> 01:00:14,600 Speaker 1: one of those buildings had closed up and moved just 1303 01:00:14,640 --> 01:00:16,680 Speaker 1: a couple of parcels down and there was like tech 1304 01:00:16,720 --> 01:00:19,120 Speaker 1: on wooden letters. It said, you know, business move like 1305 01:00:20,040 --> 01:00:22,320 Speaker 1: so many doors down and somebody falling off or whatever. 1306 01:00:22,320 --> 01:00:24,720 Speaker 1: And there was three of us at the time, and 1307 01:00:24,720 --> 01:00:26,440 Speaker 1: and Todd said, well what about three doors down? And 1308 01:00:26,480 --> 01:00:29,000 Speaker 1: we're like all right, and it just kind of stuck. 1309 01:00:29,280 --> 01:00:31,080 Speaker 1: So like the first real name you came up with, 1310 01:00:31,160 --> 01:00:33,880 Speaker 1: you kept, well, that's odd. Most bands are like, well, 1311 01:00:33,880 --> 01:00:37,400 Speaker 1: our first name was the Wiener Jumpers, but we didn't 1312 01:00:37,400 --> 01:00:38,680 Speaker 1: like that, so then we just had to go with 1313 01:00:38,720 --> 01:00:40,320 Speaker 1: the Tonell Kids, and we didn't like that. Next thing, 1314 01:00:40,400 --> 01:00:42,680 Speaker 1: you know, here we are you too, were like that 1315 01:00:42,800 --> 01:00:45,240 Speaker 1: was weird, But that's the first name. You guys had 1316 01:00:45,520 --> 01:00:47,520 Speaker 1: first name, and it's the only band I've ever been in. 1317 01:00:47,680 --> 01:00:50,040 Speaker 1: I've never been in another band. And you wrote too 1318 01:00:50,080 --> 01:00:53,960 Speaker 1: songs in high school and look at you. You're like happy, man, 1319 01:00:54,720 --> 01:00:57,040 Speaker 1: I'm telling you bless because I am. I have not 1320 01:00:57,240 --> 01:01:00,800 Speaker 1: that talented, still so inferior at the same age, and 1321 01:01:00,840 --> 01:01:04,320 Speaker 1: you're like, how to rock star live? Man? I got you. Well, 1322 01:01:04,360 --> 01:01:06,480 Speaker 1: I'm a fan. I'm a genuine fan. I appreciate it. Man, 1323 01:01:06,560 --> 01:01:10,640 Speaker 1: that's you don't be that al right, Episode one sixty five. 1324 01:01:10,720 --> 01:01:11,920 Speaker 1: This has been fun for me. Help. This is what 1325 01:01:12,040 --> 01:01:13,880 Speaker 1: we did an hour we're an hour into this thing. Dang, 1326 01:01:14,120 --> 01:01:16,360 Speaker 1: look at us. So we're just talking away. We weren't 1327 01:01:16,360 --> 01:01:19,280 Speaker 1: even recording now we'll start now just me talking like 1328 01:01:19,280 --> 01:01:22,200 Speaker 1: asking questions. Um, this is an episode one sixty five. 1329 01:01:22,400 --> 01:01:24,800 Speaker 1: If people want to see because you're not now doing shows. Um, 1330 01:01:24,840 --> 01:01:27,160 Speaker 1: you have all the dates on on your website. We do. Okay, 1331 01:01:27,160 --> 01:01:29,360 Speaker 1: so three Doors down dot com. Okay, so head over 1332 01:01:29,400 --> 01:01:31,160 Speaker 1: to three Doors down dot com. You're not doing Are 1333 01:01:31,160 --> 01:01:33,840 Speaker 1: you doing acoustic shows? Now? We are. We might have 1334 01:01:33,880 --> 01:01:36,160 Speaker 1: a couple of acoustic shows left. We're about to get 1335 01:01:36,200 --> 01:01:38,480 Speaker 1: in back into the electric shows. How do you feel 1336 01:01:38,520 --> 01:01:40,880 Speaker 1: about that? I'm ready? Yeah, I like. I like playing 1337 01:01:40,920 --> 01:01:42,960 Speaker 1: acoustic shows a lot because it gives you an opportunity 1338 01:01:42,960 --> 01:01:46,960 Speaker 1: to stand up there and like perform the songs and um, 1339 01:01:47,040 --> 01:01:49,240 Speaker 1: and like tell the stories about it and stuff, you know. 1340 01:01:49,280 --> 01:01:51,480 Speaker 1: But at the same time, it's like standing there and 1341 01:01:51,520 --> 01:01:54,360 Speaker 1: you're into weird because there's nothing to hide behind. There's 1342 01:01:54,400 --> 01:01:56,040 Speaker 1: no like, you know, you kind of flood it a 1343 01:01:56,040 --> 01:01:58,080 Speaker 1: little bit if you if your throat's hurting or something, 1344 01:01:58,560 --> 01:02:00,560 Speaker 1: and you know it's real loud in the rock show, 1345 01:02:00,560 --> 01:02:03,640 Speaker 1: it's like, ah, they'd be fine acuty shows. Man, you're 1346 01:02:03,680 --> 01:02:06,200 Speaker 1: if you're there. Um, so I'm ready to get back 1347 01:02:06,200 --> 01:02:08,600 Speaker 1: out there and placing rocks shows. I'm ready to run 1348 01:02:08,640 --> 01:02:11,560 Speaker 1: around a little bit. We got the whole uh the 1349 01:02:11,560 --> 01:02:15,680 Speaker 1: tour years twenty five years, said twenty years. So does 1350 01:02:15,680 --> 01:02:17,680 Speaker 1: that mean you're gonna put any into new music? Are 1351 01:02:17,680 --> 01:02:20,520 Speaker 1: you guys thinking about? We're gonna where we're gonna rerelease 1352 01:02:20,600 --> 01:02:24,160 Speaker 1: The Better Life and I think maybe remaster it, and 1353 01:02:24,440 --> 01:02:28,240 Speaker 1: we're gonna package it along with that first CD because 1354 01:02:28,240 --> 01:02:30,440 Speaker 1: of our first CD that got us signed had about 1355 01:02:30,440 --> 01:02:32,320 Speaker 1: half the songs that was wound up on A Better 1356 01:02:32,360 --> 01:02:34,560 Speaker 1: Life but a different recording of them, and then some 1357 01:02:34,600 --> 01:02:37,920 Speaker 1: other songs that that had just never been released. Um. 1358 01:02:38,040 --> 01:02:41,120 Speaker 1: So we're gonna package it with that our first local 1359 01:02:41,160 --> 01:02:44,600 Speaker 1: CD because we only ever made two thousand of them, um, 1360 01:02:44,680 --> 01:02:46,600 Speaker 1: and just put that out, just kind of put it 1361 01:02:46,600 --> 01:02:49,600 Speaker 1: out there. And we do need to we do need 1362 01:02:49,640 --> 01:02:51,840 Speaker 1: to write some more songs and and put out another record. 1363 01:02:51,880 --> 01:02:54,640 Speaker 1: But at the same time, somebody asked me the other day, 1364 01:02:55,160 --> 01:02:57,760 Speaker 1: I was at a at an event here and and 1365 01:02:58,080 --> 01:03:00,880 Speaker 1: guys like you guys, you guys reach out and I 1366 01:03:00,960 --> 01:03:03,360 Speaker 1: was like, no, man, we still play a lot. He said. Uh. 1367 01:03:03,360 --> 01:03:07,000 Speaker 1: He said, well, y'all gonna put out some new records. 1368 01:03:07,000 --> 01:03:09,560 Speaker 1: And I said it jokingly, and it is a good 1369 01:03:09,560 --> 01:03:12,959 Speaker 1: problem to head. I was like, we're not really worried 1370 01:03:12,960 --> 01:03:14,560 Speaker 1: about He's like, well, why not, I said, because we 1371 01:03:14,600 --> 01:03:19,160 Speaker 1: already can't play all our right now, what a problem, right, 1372 01:03:19,200 --> 01:03:21,760 Speaker 1: it's a good problem to have. Look at this. There 1373 01:03:21,800 --> 01:03:23,600 Speaker 1: he is Brad Arnold with three doors down. Go watch 1374 01:03:23,640 --> 01:03:27,320 Speaker 1: him live Episode one. Good to see you, my friends. 1375 01:03:28,000 --> 01:03:29,680 Speaker 1: All right, that's it, Thank you very much.