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Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning.

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Speaker 2: Breakfast Club, Good morning.

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Speaker 3: Everybody is DJ Envy, Jesse Hilarious, Charlamagne the Guy.

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Speaker 1: We are the Breakfast Club.

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Speaker 3: We got a special guests in the building, YESTERD. We

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Speaker 3: have Britney Spencer. Welcome baby Baltimore's own.

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Speaker 2: Yes, y'all, how are you, Brittany?

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Speaker 4: I am good. I'm so happy to be here.

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Speaker 5: I'm a little nervous because I've just been watching y'all

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Speaker 5: for years and so, like, you know, this is fire.

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Speaker 4: Thanks for having me.

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Speaker 6: That's a name, Baltimore, y'all.

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Speaker 2: Don't get nervous about nothing.

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Speaker 4: That's a lot. Do you get nervous.

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Speaker 7: I get nervous when I'm there. I get nervous when

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Speaker 7: I'm here. I get nervous everywhere.

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Speaker 4: I get nervous when I breathe. Yeah, I am a

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Speaker 4: nervous wreck.

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Speaker 8: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I'm just not very reactive, you know. I just be

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Speaker 5: like chilling and doing my therapy.

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Speaker 6: You know, what part of bottom are you from?

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Speaker 5: I've lived everywhere. Like to give context, I went to

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Speaker 5: four elementary schools. Yeah, so I've lived gosh, my family

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Speaker 5: live in like Randallstown and locker rooms.

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Speaker 4: Yeah I know, yeah, yeah, I went to school in Towson.

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Speaker 5: I could sing, and so it let me go to

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Speaker 5: like magnet schools all through middle and high school, and

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Speaker 5: so I could sing opera and so that kind of

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Speaker 5: like I didn't have to go to my zone school

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Speaker 5: and so we moved around like a bit quite a

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Speaker 5: bit sometimes, but I just didn't have to like change schools.

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Speaker 7: But I've been everywhere. What made you How did you

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Speaker 7: end up in Nashville? From Baltimore, Baltimore, all around Baltimore

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Speaker 7: to Nashville.

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Speaker 5: People always ask me that. I mean, I found out

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Speaker 5: about country music because of the radio. My friend Keisha

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Speaker 5: at church was like, you need to listen to the chicks.

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Speaker 5: Back then they with Dixie. Yeah, they were the gateway.

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Speaker 5: I feel like they always the gateway everybody meet. They're

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Speaker 5: just the gateway. That's how me and Rain and Roberts

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Speaker 5: connected the first time because we were like just loving

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Speaker 5: Dixie Chicks. Yeah, but my friends they told me to

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Speaker 5: listen to them, and I did, and I just fell

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Speaker 5: in love. I feel like Baltimore was like very like

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Speaker 5: it's very musical, you know, like you can you can

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Speaker 5: go and you can sing in church, but also you

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Speaker 5: can go and listen to music down at Peabody.

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Speaker 4: You got a lot of art schools there. You got

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Speaker 4: like harverd and Baltimore School for the Arts.

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Speaker 5: But also country radio is consistently the highest ranked in Maryland,

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Speaker 5: so you got a lot of everything. Feel like people

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Speaker 5: kind of appreciate it, you know, it's a lot of

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Speaker 5: different sides of Baltimore, and so that was kind of

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Speaker 5: my introduction to it, and I kind of just fell

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Speaker 5: in love and kept going and finally decided years later

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Speaker 5: to make the move and at least give it a try.

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Speaker 5: I had no idea if this thing was actually gonna work,

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Speaker 5: but I was like, it's worth a try. Might as

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Speaker 5: well feel as something that I actually really like, as

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Speaker 5: opposed to like succeeding at doing something I don't want

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Speaker 3: Were you nervous to do country because you said Baltimore

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Speaker 3: and Baltimore Teeter is on everything right cause you got

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Speaker 3: club musing in Baltimore. Of course, hipopp An R and B.

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Speaker 3: Do you get like a touch of Go Go because

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Speaker 3: DC is right there? And you went country. You totally

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Speaker 3: went against everything you know that people.

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Speaker 1: Were listening to. So how did that happen?

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Speaker 3: What made you say this is what I want to

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Speaker 3: do as a professional, and I'm going to take the

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Speaker 3: jump and go to like she said, Nashville.

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Speaker 4: I mean it was a lot.

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Speaker 5: I felt like I really loved country music, and I've

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Speaker 5: like I've like sat and like thought for a long time,

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Speaker 5: Like back in the day, I would be like, Yo,

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Speaker 5: why do I love this? Like everything around me was

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Speaker 5: church was gospel was I mean my family up bringing

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Speaker 5: like R and B, hip hop like that was that's

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Speaker 5: like that's my family. My father is a DJ, you know,

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Speaker 5: it's so like and he spent hip hop and R

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Speaker 5: and B all the time. And I'm like, what is

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Speaker 5: this thing? And I couldn't ever point my finger on it,

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Speaker 5: but I decided that it was. It was just what

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Speaker 5: it was supposed to be for me, and I got

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Speaker 5: the nerve. It was something about Taylor Swift, you know,

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Speaker 5: like I mean y'all know like in New York, y'all

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Speaker 5: like it's mad close in proximity, and she's from Pennsylvania.

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Speaker 4: She didn't have a twang, like she was really poetic.

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Speaker 5: It was just something about her that just made me

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Speaker 5: feel like maybe I could do this and then Riba.

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Speaker 4: I love Reba.

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Speaker 6: We all like her.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, what did your dad say, being a DJ, especially

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Speaker 3: hip hop and R and B DJ When you said, Dad,

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Speaker 3: I want to do country like that ain't in my serato?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he was like, nah, you ain't moved to Atlanta.

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Speaker 6: I was okay.

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Speaker 5: I know he was nervous, and my whole family was

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Speaker 5: kind of nervous actually, but but he got it, you know,

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Speaker 5: and especially like now, like my family, like honestly, sometimes

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Speaker 5: they be just as shocked as I am, like, oh

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Speaker 5: my god, this is actually like happening and working. I'm like,

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Speaker 5: I never knew for it actually really work. I just

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Speaker 5: it to not work, I guess in a sense, but

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Speaker 5: also I mean, preparing for it to work is a

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Speaker 5: whole other conversation.

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Speaker 4: But you know, they just they're on board. They love it.

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Speaker 5: They love what I'm doing, and I mean, I think

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Speaker 5: you know, and uh, and I kind of take that

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Speaker 5: responsibility seriously, but like it's been very real for me

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Speaker 5: for a long time.

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Speaker 4: Like you just didn't know why everybody from Baltimore.

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Speaker 8: Daddy of DJA, your daddy DJ.

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Speaker 6: Yes, yeah, yeah, that's why I'm so music link.

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Speaker 7: I love music, but I don't want but like you,

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Speaker 7: you know, I don't only listen to hip hop, rap

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Speaker 7: and you know R and B. I have I delve

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Speaker 7: in rock, heavy metal, everything like country pop, everything is

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Speaker 7: every genre of music that makes accept opera.

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Speaker 6: I ain't gonna hold you. I will be sleep if

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Speaker 6: I had to do that.

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Speaker 4: I want no hot season in the morning. You don't

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Speaker 7: No, I mean, of course, if you if you make

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Speaker 7: it interesting, because girl, I just be on it, that's what.

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Speaker 6: But but that my dad is DJ. Yeah yeah.

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Speaker 8: Well, it's tough being accepted in the country community as

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Speaker 5: I think, I mean for a lot of us, I

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Speaker 5: think it's challenging, like trying to get people to understand

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Speaker 5: sometimes what we're doing. But I feel like there are

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Speaker 5: a lot of creatives that are really open to kind

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Speaker 5: of this this reformation happening in Nashville. I mean, in

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Speaker 5: addition to like just what we look like we're bringing

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Speaker 5: our culture to like just like how you said, you

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Speaker 5: listen to everything like I do too, and that you

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Speaker 5: can hear that in my music.

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Speaker 4: Too, especially when I get closer to home.

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Speaker 5: It's just like it's like pulled out of me because

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Speaker 5: I've been to Nationville for eleven years, so like sometimes

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Speaker 5: it's a little twangy like just because I've been there

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Speaker 5: for so long. But but yeah, I mean, I just

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Speaker 5: I feel like we're bringing a lot of the styles

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Speaker 5: and influences that we've kind of like had around us.

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Speaker 5: You know, our family at a cookouts, we listen to

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Speaker 5: music where we see ourselves, where we see ourselves reflected.

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Speaker 5: And so we're coming into country, but we're bringing R

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Speaker 5: and B, and we're bringing rock, and we're bringing opera.

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Speaker 5: There is actually a country record that starts off with opera.

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Speaker 5: Like people who are just you know.

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Speaker 6: That's I'm just kiding.

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Speaker 7: Thinking of opera, I just think of sitting in the

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Speaker 7: symphony and they just down there, you know, doing the

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Speaker 7: It's different. I'm pretty sure it's different types of opera.

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Speaker 7: But that's the only thing my mind goes to is

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Speaker 7: that the regular symphony I get when you're sitting in

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Speaker 5: And a lot of it being like uh in like

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Speaker 5: other languages, and so you don't always know what's going on.

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Speaker 4: You gotta kind of read and stuff. I did it.

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Speaker 6: I did it.

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Speaker 1: Why do people have to go to Nashville?

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Speaker 3: Because it reminds me of when when hip hop was

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Speaker 3: big in New York and everybody had they felt like

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Speaker 3: they had to move to New York to get that sound,

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Speaker 3: Like why.

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Speaker 1: Why do you have to go to Nashville?

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Speaker 3: Why artists have to go to Nashville and kind of

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Speaker 4: Mean I don't know. Probably because of the resources.

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Speaker 5: That's where the industry is, Like Nashville is built like

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Speaker 5: with an infrastructure. That's where the labels are, That's where

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Speaker 5: the ros are, a lot of the publishing companies are there,

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Speaker 5: a lot of the producers are there. I mean, there

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Speaker 5: are plenty of places, like in Texas, Like there are

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Speaker 5: plenty of Texas artists that are like they're not moving

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Speaker 5: just I don't know, Nashville's just kind of built like yeah,

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Speaker 5: like it's just kind of built for that. And I mean,

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Speaker 5: the radios are there, and so it's just I don't know.

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Speaker 5: I feel like it's just if you want to do

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Speaker 5: it outside in Nashville, I feel like you can, especially now,

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Speaker 5: you know, with like the Internet. But ultimately I feel

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Speaker 5: like a lot of people end up feel like they

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Speaker 5: got to move to Nashville.

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Speaker 4: I felt like I had to move to Nashville.

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Speaker 5: I remember watching like documentaries with like Riba and Taylor

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Speaker 5: back when I was a kid and just being like, oh,

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Speaker 5: they both said they had to get to Nashville, and

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Speaker 5: I'm like, my ass need to get to Nashville, and so, like,

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Speaker 5: you know, it's me a few years to kind of

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Speaker 5: get the nerve to do it. But I don't know.

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Speaker 5: I feel like I feel like I meet more and

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Speaker 5: more artists that are not in Nashville, but they always

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Speaker 5: end up having to come back to Nashville a lot,

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Speaker 5: you know, like you have to kind of just get there.

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Speaker 4: Everybody is kind of there.

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Speaker 2: It's country music more racist and sexist.

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Speaker 4: M gosh.

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Speaker 5: I think radio right now like ten percent of their

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Speaker 5: airplay is women right right now. But I don't think

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Speaker 5: they're playing black women right now much so I don't

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Speaker 5: I don't know both of them is just a struggle.

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Speaker 4: I guess.

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Speaker 5: I don't know, and I don't I feel like the

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Speaker 5: industry is kind of pushing for change in that department,

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Speaker 5: but yeah, I don't know.

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Speaker 4: It's kind of in need of a little a.

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Speaker 5: Little overhaul in a lot of departments, and I'm in

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Speaker 5: the middle of that, like I feel.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I don't know.

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Speaker 5: I feel like even as I make music like that

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Speaker 5: sits on my brain sometimes but I try to.

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Speaker 6: So why is it called my stupid life? I want

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Speaker 4: Why why you call it it's called my stupid life?

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Speaker 6: So your Stupid Life.

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Speaker 5: It's because I feel like life is uh, you know,

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Speaker 4: And with the album, it's.

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Speaker 4: Was like, oh, this is actually kind of cool.

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Speaker 5: I would listen to an album called My Stupid Life, right,

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Speaker 8: I saw you say that the album cracked you wide

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Speaker 2: And you said, I really don't like feeling.

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Speaker 5: Therapy has helped me a whole lot with that, and

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Speaker 4: What to do with it.

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Speaker 5: You know, Like, I'm not a very reactive person. I'm

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Speaker 5: I've learned that if you don't let yourself feel what

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Speaker 6: Why?

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Speaker 4: Why don't I know this about myself? Like there were moments.

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Speaker 5: I just think it's important to at least start the

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Speaker 4: It's a much deeper thing.

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Speaker 5: You thought you forgot about it because you were eight

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Speaker 5: realize you're still dealing with stuff from childhood. You're still

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Speaker 5: dealing with all kinds of stuff, Like you're still dealing

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Speaker 5: with rejection issues that really, I mean, you get rejected

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Speaker 5: a lot in this industry, you know, but my rejection

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 5: It just exacerbates everything, and it's a it's a lot

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Speaker 8: Not good for you in that point, because you didn't

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Speaker 8: creating poster syndrome. Oh gosh, when you get the posit

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Speaker 5: Oh gosh, it was so bad, moom. One time, I

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Speaker 5: And this is true, Like you have to. I feel

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Speaker 4: I try to put that out there.

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Speaker 5: Like like I'm saying, like I hate feelings is like,

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Speaker 5: Sometimes it feels like a rock in a hard place.

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Speaker 5: But if you can learn how to navigate it, it's freedom.

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Speaker 3: Now you spoke about, you know, the industry. He asked

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Speaker 3: I had the white people in Naville, because I mean

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Speaker 3: sure is when you're looking at crowd, you don't see

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, when.

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Speaker 6: Every white people can come into my shoes.

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Speaker 1: I just said the majority.

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Speaker 6: Because these people think they know me so much.

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Speaker 4: They can't discredit your fans. They can't. I got they can't.

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Speaker 4: It sounds just like my sister, this is so wild.

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Speaker 4: Shout out, Bria, shout out.

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Speaker 5: I feel like, I don't know, I feel like, gosh,

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Speaker 4: I don't know if I can cuss on this, I

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Speaker 5: So I just remember, like I just I don't know,

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Speaker 5: I'm like, it's okay because I'm not opening act right now,

441
00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:48,760
Speaker 5: you know, Like I'm excited. I love opening up for

442
00:18:48,760 --> 00:18:50,320
Speaker 5: the people that I'm opened up for. That's the part

443
00:18:50,320 --> 00:18:52,439
Speaker 5: of my career where I'm at right now, and in

444
00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:54,399
Speaker 5: my head, I'm just like, you're going to be a

445
00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:57,040
Speaker 5: part of this thing. When I'm headlining the show, you know,

446
00:18:57,160 --> 00:18:59,040
Speaker 5: you're going to be part of the demographic because I really,

447
00:18:59,119 --> 00:19:00,840
Speaker 5: I really want to make me music for everybody, Like

448
00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:04,560
Speaker 5: I really want to make universal country music, Like I

449
00:19:04,600 --> 00:19:07,720
Speaker 5: want something for everybody, and everything ain't gonna be for everybody,

450
00:19:08,119 --> 00:19:10,000
Speaker 5: but like maybe there's a song or two that's down

451
00:19:10,040 --> 00:19:12,440
Speaker 5: your row, you know, and I feel like more.

452
00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:13,720
Speaker 4: I mean, I can't say more than ever.

453
00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:15,760
Speaker 5: I hate people say that like we weren't here, you know,

454
00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:18,760
Speaker 5: before our time, but it feels like right now more

455
00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:24,400
Speaker 5: than ever. People enjoy authenticity, like whoever you are is enough,

456
00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:27,120
Speaker 5: Like whatever your story is, it doesn't need to be mine,

457
00:19:27,160 --> 00:19:29,280
Speaker 5: it just needs to be real. And that's what drew

458
00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:32,200
Speaker 5: me to country music. I love that people put themselves

459
00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:34,480
Speaker 5: in their songs, and I love that people tell the truth,

460
00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:37,679
Speaker 5: or at least try to. And if you can't tell

461
00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:39,679
Speaker 5: the truth because it ain't yours, you at least have

462
00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:41,680
Speaker 5: a high level of empathy to be able to put

463
00:19:41,720 --> 00:19:45,400
Speaker 5: yourself in somebody else's shoes well enough to articulate that story.

464
00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:48,960
Speaker 5: And for me, that's what draws me even to performing,

465
00:19:49,040 --> 00:19:50,760
Speaker 5: and so I kind of I kind of keep that

466
00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:54,320
Speaker 5: the forefront of my brain and and it comes with challenges,

467
00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:59,199
Speaker 5: of course, it definitely comes with challenges. Like I mean,

468
00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:03,879
Speaker 5: even though in creating process, like having people that understand

469
00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:06,159
Speaker 5: a black girl from Baltimore City who want to do

470
00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:10,000
Speaker 5: country music. You know, that's that's interesting. You know, what

471
00:20:10,119 --> 00:20:11,679
Speaker 5: does a right like that look like? You know, what

472
00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:13,720
Speaker 5: does a session like that look like? And it's a

473
00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:17,680
Speaker 5: it can be. It's a lot of exploring and it's

474
00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:21,000
Speaker 5: a lot of open mindedness. And like I said, I

475
00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:24,760
Speaker 5: feel like in addition to bringing my complexion, I'm bringing

476
00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:27,880
Speaker 5: my culture, you know. And I feel like right now

477
00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:31,240
Speaker 5: in country music, it's a great time to be able

478
00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:34,199
Speaker 5: to explore what that sounds like, not just what it

479
00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:37,280
Speaker 5: looks like, but and that's important too, but also what

480
00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:40,040
Speaker 5: does it sound like? You know, Like I'm not coming

481
00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:43,560
Speaker 5: and assimilating. I'm bringing, you know, my eight years of

482
00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:47,639
Speaker 5: singing opera. I'm coming and I'm bringing like just listening

483
00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:50,119
Speaker 5: to the Chicks as a kid, and listening to to

484
00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:53,879
Speaker 5: Anina Simone and listening to Beyonce, and listening to shah

485
00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:57,560
Speaker 5: Dei and listening to the Clark sisters, Like I'm bringing

486
00:20:57,640 --> 00:20:59,000
Speaker 5: all of that, Like what does that sound like?

487
00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:00,200
Speaker 4: Because I come from.

488
00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:02,639
Speaker 5: A place where we listen to everything, and it's so

489
00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:04,320
Speaker 5: nice to be able to talk to Baltimore person who's

490
00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:06,560
Speaker 5: just like that too, because that's that's not a me thing.

491
00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:07,960
Speaker 5: And I'll be trying to explain that the people on

492
00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:09,160
Speaker 5: NAT show like, yo, that is not.

493
00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:10,080
Speaker 4: A me thing.

494
00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:13,960
Speaker 5: I come from a very musically eclectic place where there

495
00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:17,160
Speaker 5: isn't one genre associated with us. We got Hairspraady, musical,

496
00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:21,360
Speaker 5: Billie Holiday and Tony Braxton like that's that's very those

497
00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:23,879
Speaker 5: are very different things. And Tupac lived there for like

498
00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:24,600
Speaker 5: a little while.

499
00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:30,639
Speaker 7: Yesterday, Girl, Tim Trees, Girl, you remember bank rolls? You

500
00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:32,840
Speaker 7: think you getting half of my dough? You wink dough?

501
00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:35,800
Speaker 4: Please tell me I don't, but I wish I did.

502
00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:38,760
Speaker 6: Girl, I'm gonna send it to you. Girl, it got

503
00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:39,560
Speaker 6: too crazy.

504
00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:41,400
Speaker 4: I wish I knew. I'm sorry, I wish I did.

505
00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:47,240
Speaker 7: No, no, no, don't wish because after this yeah, yeah, okay,

506
00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:51,440
Speaker 7: but honestly, that's what like, that's what drew me to you.

507
00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:54,000
Speaker 7: I have a best friend who likes country music as well,

508
00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:58,640
Speaker 7: but I I I delve in country music, but it's

509
00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:00,840
Speaker 7: not like something that I will play every day. But

510
00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:03,719
Speaker 7: her telling like, Yo, it's this girl from Baltimore who

511
00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:07,320
Speaker 7: do country, and she sent she sent me your stuff,

512
00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:09,480
Speaker 7: you and and Rainy because she's into that. She's into

513
00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:11,600
Speaker 7: country more than I am. And so she sent me

514
00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:12,960
Speaker 7: rain and she sent me here, she sent me a

515
00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:16,080
Speaker 7: couple other girls, and I was like, dang, Like Shorty,

516
00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:18,040
Speaker 7: you can really sing, you know, and your voice is

517
00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:21,560
Speaker 7: very soothing as well. And then you mentioned Beyonce like

518
00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:24,760
Speaker 7: something like that is just interesting coming from where I'm from,

519
00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:27,760
Speaker 7: because you don't see country singers that's coming out of

520
00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:29,280
Speaker 7: our city, you know what I mean.

521
00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:32,120
Speaker 6: Every day or or even every year.

522
00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:34,400
Speaker 7: This is not this is something that you see every

523
00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:36,639
Speaker 7: once in Honestly, I think you're probably the only one

524
00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:41,200
Speaker 7: so like to be honest, and so I know even

525
00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:43,879
Speaker 7: a Beyonce would take a liking to that, Like hold up,

526
00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:45,600
Speaker 7: like you know, so how did that even happen? Like

527
00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:48,080
Speaker 7: how did that link up happen? Because you're on Blackbird

528
00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:49,160
Speaker 7: on the Cowboy called an album.

529
00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:50,399
Speaker 4: Yeah, how did that happen?

530
00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:55,280
Speaker 5: I don't actually know, Like all I know is is

531
00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:58,520
Speaker 5: that I'm there, and I it's wild. It's insane, Like

532
00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:02,439
Speaker 5: being on that record, I feel like one is just

533
00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:05,840
Speaker 5: breaking a lot of musical boundaries, like for what kind

534
00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:07,000
Speaker 5: of music people can make.

535
00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:07,880
Speaker 4: It's kind of.

536
00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:09,840
Speaker 5: Disrupting I think a lot of the industry and also

537
00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:13,280
Speaker 5: disrupting like just even the creative process. I think, like

538
00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:16,159
Speaker 5: I feel like creatives might take the boxes off a

539
00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:19,119
Speaker 5: little bit, you know, and not you know, be as

540
00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:21,199
Speaker 5: you know, I don't think we've been rigid, but like

541
00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:24,080
Speaker 5: will be even more explorative and also not feel like

542
00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:26,920
Speaker 5: in order to be marketable you have to be this

543
00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:30,160
Speaker 5: one thing. Yeah, you know, that's always a huge thing.

544
00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:33,080
Speaker 5: Like I mean, like, am I marketable in my commercial

545
00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:35,240
Speaker 5: will people like this? You know, especially if you want

546
00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:38,679
Speaker 5: to be a commercial artist, and it's I don't know,

547
00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:40,199
Speaker 5: I feel like it's taking a limits off of that

548
00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:43,400
Speaker 5: and being a part of that record, like I was.

549
00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:47,400
Speaker 5: I was just telling Kevin the other day, Kevin Lows

550
00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:49,720
Speaker 5: over here, I was just telling him. I was like, yo,

551
00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:52,520
Speaker 5: I just realized my album I put it out. Put

552
00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:53,240
Speaker 5: my album out in.

553
00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:56,120
Speaker 4: January, and it opens up with birds.

554
00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:58,880
Speaker 5: Chirping, and it opens off with this I know right,

555
00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:01,080
Speaker 5: And it opens up with this song called new to

556
00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:03,240
Speaker 5: This Town and it's in the same key as Blackbird,

557
00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:07,600
Speaker 5: almost the same tempo, and like I'm just like this

558
00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:10,439
Speaker 5: is this is wild, this is beautiful, it's it's it's

559
00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:12,040
Speaker 5: like you can't orchestra stuff like that.

560
00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:14,640
Speaker 4: I mean, I talk about Beyonce on my album.

561
00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:17,120
Speaker 2: Like and a Raven is a Blackbird Baltimore Ravens.

562
00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:23,520
Speaker 3: I don't know know it is, but why it happened

563
00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:24,240
Speaker 3: is did she call you?

564
00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:26,119
Speaker 1: Did somebody call you? Was the record? Like how did

565
00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:27,119
Speaker 1: the record come together?

566
00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:29,800
Speaker 4: I didn't already talk about that yet. I ain't gonna lie.

567
00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:33,000
Speaker 5: I mean I feel like, uh, like I feel like

568
00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:35,120
Speaker 5: as an artist, like I want to respect like her

569
00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:38,240
Speaker 5: creative process, and I feel like whenever she's ready to

570
00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:39,639
Speaker 5: talk about this, she will and I want to.

571
00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:42,720
Speaker 4: Leave that for her. I love her, I admire her.

572
00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:45,840
Speaker 5: And also she's Beyonce and like you know she'll she'll

573
00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:49,080
Speaker 5: tell the story you won't. Yeah, I mean that and

574
00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:50,840
Speaker 5: all I mean, but also like for real, like on

575
00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:53,679
Speaker 5: a very hard level, like I mean, I don't know

576
00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:56,399
Speaker 5: people have plans for how they want to like reveal stuff,

577
00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:59,400
Speaker 5: and I just want to wait, like I just make sense, Yeah,

578
00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:01,280
Speaker 5: like I want to and plus I want to cherish this.

579
00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:04,240
Speaker 5: Like I'm also the same person who like will hold

580
00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:06,600
Speaker 5: on to something for a long time and like not

581
00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:09,000
Speaker 5: share with nobody, and like I don't know, even with

582
00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:11,359
Speaker 5: my album, I had like the little leather keychain that

583
00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:13,000
Speaker 5: had the title of it on there. I mean I

584
00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:15,080
Speaker 5: had it around people have my keys, I lose my

585
00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:16,560
Speaker 5: keys all kinds of stuff and go back to the

586
00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:18,879
Speaker 5: store to get it. I've had my stupid life written

587
00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:21,040
Speaker 5: on all kinds of things for a year. I had

588
00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:23,760
Speaker 5: it on like engraved on one of my shirts. Like

589
00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:25,800
Speaker 5: nobody saw it, nobody knew, but like it was just

590
00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:28,479
Speaker 5: like my little thing. And so I respect the creative

591
00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:29,320
Speaker 5: process and so.

592
00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:31,879
Speaker 7: But it's just you because you're young, you know what

593
00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:34,960
Speaker 7: I'm saying, even just for you, like later on maybe

594
00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:36,600
Speaker 7: that's maybe you'll write a book or maybe you'll.

595
00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:38,480
Speaker 6: Do it like you know, like a memoir or like a.

596
00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:42,160
Speaker 7: Documentary where that will be something for later. You get

597
00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:43,480
Speaker 7: what I'm saying, like for you to do.

598
00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:46,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, I feel like everything is so instant right now

599
00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:49,600
Speaker 5: with like social media, and I'm like, yo, have a

600
00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:51,840
Speaker 5: like having a thought out play, and I get it.

601
00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:53,080
Speaker 4: I understand urgency.

602
00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:55,760
Speaker 5: I understand like or at least, I'm starting to understand

603
00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:59,480
Speaker 5: just immediacy. I struggle with social media that is not

604
00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:03,280
Speaker 5: my four today, Like I'll be talking about I'll be

605
00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:05,040
Speaker 5: online talking to people about how I don't want to

606
00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:07,000
Speaker 5: be online. I'm like, this is like what am I doing?

607
00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:08,840
Speaker 5: Like I made a whole song the other day and

608
00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:11,760
Speaker 5: was like, I tiktokd someone please tell my team my label.

609
00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:12,440
Speaker 4: I tiktoked.

610
00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:15,320
Speaker 5: I did the thing like please, like just know that

611
00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:18,080
Speaker 5: I'm trying today, like I can't account for tomorrow, but

612
00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:20,080
Speaker 5: this week I'm bored. So I'm actually doing an experiment

613
00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:22,760
Speaker 5: where I'm posting like two or three tiktoks a day

614
00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:24,280
Speaker 5: because I'm kind of just bored. I just want to

615
00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:25,840
Speaker 5: try something now. I don't know what I'm looking for,

616
00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:28,480
Speaker 5: but I'm just having fun talking to people. But I

617
00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:30,640
Speaker 5: forgot what I was talking about just now. That's how

618
00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:31,920
Speaker 5: this works in my brain.

619
00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:34,760
Speaker 7: Basically, he was askingly, like trying to get your business

620
00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:36,640
Speaker 7: about how to be linked up, and you say you're going.

621
00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:39,959
Speaker 6: To talk about it later maybe later. Urgency is not

622
00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:40,840
Speaker 6: for thank you all that.

623
00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:42,800
Speaker 7: Like I got to start about how you know, when

624
00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:45,160
Speaker 7: me and Michael Jackson was cool, I'm gonna tell that later,

625
00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:47,480
Speaker 7: you know what I mean, because that that's a story

626
00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:47,840
Speaker 7: for later.

627
00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:52,199
Speaker 4: You know that, you know, I was just going with it.

628
00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:53,159
Speaker 4: I'm here for it.

629
00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:55,240
Speaker 8: The best thing to do when you're talking to somebody

630
00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:59,000
Speaker 8: from Baltimore to go whatever they're saying. I'm just listen

631
00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:02,879
Speaker 8: the other black female country artists. You mentioned Rainer, but

632
00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:06,000
Speaker 8: then there's a Tanner Dale, Tierraic Kennedy where y'all all

633
00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:08,680
Speaker 8: familiar with each other and cool with each other before y'all.

634
00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:12,359
Speaker 5: Yeah, So in a sense, I, me and Raina have

635
00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:14,600
Speaker 5: been really good friends for a few years. Me and

636
00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:18,480
Speaker 5: Raina we met back in twenty twenty, twenty twenty one,

637
00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:22,960
Speaker 5: and Tanner we met. I want to say, we met

638
00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:26,000
Speaker 5: like last year for the first time. I've literally only

639
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:27,880
Speaker 5: been around her a handful of times, but we've like

640
00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:30,720
Speaker 5: been just really friendly. We have like a common interest

641
00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:31,520
Speaker 5: in edible glitter.

642
00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:34,960
Speaker 2: Edible glitter, Yeah, yeah.

643
00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:37,080
Speaker 4: Put it in your drinks. You don't put in it?

644
00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:42,280
Speaker 5: I'm like, mind, but but that's no. I don't have

645
00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:44,359
Speaker 5: TC in it. It just I put the thing, you know,

646
00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:47,639
Speaker 5: I do the thing. Yeah, but no, it's just regular

647
00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:50,560
Speaker 5: just Amazon edible glitter. And so that was something that

648
00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:51,200
Speaker 5: we just kind.

649
00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:52,040
Speaker 1: Of literally in drink.

650
00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:53,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, it makes.

651
00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:58,800
Speaker 6: A drink really pretty edible, got you a little.

652
00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:01,680
Speaker 5: Gold dust on your like something, I mean anyway, but

653
00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:06,040
Speaker 5: then we connected with that online and so like it's

654
00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:07,879
Speaker 5: just been I don't know, it's just been mutual respect

655
00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:10,200
Speaker 5: and just like little things like that. I've known Tier

656
00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:14,600
Speaker 5: for a few years. We work together back in twenty

657
00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:17,040
Speaker 5: twenty one, and so yeah, I mean I feel like

658
00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:20,800
Speaker 5: we all kind of like started meeting each other when

659
00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:23,639
Speaker 5: life got busy, like around twenty twenty and when the

660
00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:26,560
Speaker 5: conversation around Black Country really kind of started ramping up,

661
00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:28,320
Speaker 5: and so I don't know, I feel like artists are

662
00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:30,119
Speaker 5: just kind of like passing ships through the night, and

663
00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:31,680
Speaker 5: so it was it's really cool to be able to

664
00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:34,080
Speaker 5: kind of like have a moment with an artist because

665
00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:36,479
Speaker 5: I mean, the beautiful and also sad part is that

666
00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:38,440
Speaker 5: like you've really got live in that moment when you're

667
00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:40,640
Speaker 5: with somebody that is in the same field as you,

668
00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:42,920
Speaker 5: because once this moment is over, like you might not

669
00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:44,880
Speaker 5: see each other for a really long time. Like I

670
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:47,640
Speaker 5: have friends that I've connected with so deeply, like over

671
00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:50,480
Speaker 5: tour or something. And it was two months and I

672
00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:52,760
Speaker 5: haven't seen him in two years now, and so I

673
00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:54,640
Speaker 5: know I'll be going through withdrawals. I'm like, oh my god,

674
00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:57,400
Speaker 5: my friend, we shared such a beautiful moment. And also

675
00:28:57,560 --> 00:29:00,320
Speaker 5: now we only see each other anymore right now, because

676
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:02,240
Speaker 5: life is justic it's hard.

677
00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:05,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, y'all know about that more than me.

678
00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:10,160
Speaker 8: Was there a country music before Beyonce and after Beyonce?

679
00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:11,200
Speaker 6: Yeah?

680
00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:13,480
Speaker 2: Okay, like how the things changed?

681
00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:16,520
Speaker 4: Yeah? Oh in that sense?

682
00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:19,720
Speaker 8: Have how have you benefited from her being in the

683
00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:20,800
Speaker 8: country music space now?

684
00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:23,120
Speaker 5: Oh gosh, I mean even just some of the stuff

685
00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:26,120
Speaker 5: that I was saying, like with a kind of breaking

686
00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:28,840
Speaker 5: those musical barriers and and kind of like who gets

687
00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:31,760
Speaker 5: to represent the South or like or or just the

688
00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:33,840
Speaker 5: stories that get to be told or the way that

689
00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:36,240
Speaker 5: it's told, Like even just sonically, I feel like people

690
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:39,680
Speaker 5: might even be a little more explorative on their albums.

691
00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:43,120
Speaker 5: Like my personal favorite album is Lemonade, Like of all time,

692
00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:47,720
Speaker 5: that's my album. When I heard that album, it like

693
00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:50,360
Speaker 5: no one song sounded like another, and it was it

694
00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:53,160
Speaker 5: was really like it shook up my head a lot.

695
00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:55,320
Speaker 5: And I feel like if people listen to my album

696
00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:57,400
Speaker 5: My Stupid Life, like you can hear that you can

697
00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:02,120
Speaker 5: hear where I just wanted to have storytelling and in

698
00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:04,800
Speaker 5: country music at its core, just be the thread through

699
00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:07,320
Speaker 5: each song. But sonically it's gonna be a little rock

700
00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:09,560
Speaker 5: and country. It's gonna be a little a little R

701
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:12,160
Speaker 5: and B and country, it's gonna be a little pop

702
00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:14,320
Speaker 5: in country. Like it's it's like, I feel like I

703
00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:17,240
Speaker 5: have that thread, and I feel like, gosh, I feel

704
00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:19,880
Speaker 5: like we're gonna hear more albums like that, you know,

705
00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:23,360
Speaker 5: but my lot is inspired by an album that she made,

706
00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:26,760
Speaker 5: you know, years ago, and so I feel like, right

707
00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:30,400
Speaker 5: now people just gonna be more explorative, like creatively, but

708
00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:33,400
Speaker 5: also I feel like she's also bringing a really interesting

709
00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:36,960
Speaker 5: fan base to country music, and and the talent is there,

710
00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:38,920
Speaker 5: and and it's our job to.

711
00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:39,720
Speaker 4: Keep them here. You know.

712
00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:42,400
Speaker 5: I have no idea what her next record is gonna be,

713
00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:45,200
Speaker 5: but hopefully, you know, the people that are here and

714
00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:49,320
Speaker 5: interested in in what this whole moment is because of Beyonce,

715
00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:52,280
Speaker 5: hopefully they, you know, wanna stick around because there's some

716
00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:55,040
Speaker 5: incredible talent here, and I think she's done an incredible

717
00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:58,360
Speaker 5: and and generous thing in spotlighting a lot of it.

718
00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:00,400
Speaker 3: On Cowboy Carter, I was gonna ask you. You know

719
00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:02,840
Speaker 3: a lot of artists are doing country now right. We

720
00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:04,400
Speaker 3: heard I think he Sha Cold said she's doing a

721
00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:04,960
Speaker 3: country album.

722
00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:07,600
Speaker 2: Doing a country album, Hey, Michelle been doing it.

723
00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:10,440
Speaker 3: So do you think it might take away from like

724
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:11,960
Speaker 3: it might be somebody These artists might be doing it

725
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:13,880
Speaker 3: as a quote unquote fatty type of thing, and it

726
00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:16,840
Speaker 3: can hurt or help country music because people are not

727
00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:18,160
Speaker 3: you know a lot of people will go because they

728
00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:19,600
Speaker 3: feel like it's a check right and not not do

729
00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:21,040
Speaker 3: it because they feel it in their soul.

730
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:21,960
Speaker 4: Yeah.

731
00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:26,440
Speaker 5: I mean, honestly, I don't think I care, like and

732
00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:28,840
Speaker 5: I know that people that are care. I don't think

733
00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:30,360
Speaker 5: I do because I feel like people just do that

734
00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:31,680
Speaker 5: across the genres all the time.

735
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:33,520
Speaker 4: Like they just do it.

736
00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:36,480
Speaker 5: People go and they make a pop record or they

737
00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:38,400
Speaker 5: make a rock album where they make you know, they

738
00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:40,920
Speaker 5: make a gospel record, like people do that all the time.

739
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:43,160
Speaker 5: And even country artists they make gospel records or a

740
00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:44,240
Speaker 5: Christian record or something like that.

741
00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:45,480
Speaker 2: Do a rap album.

742
00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:48,120
Speaker 6: It's the poet department.

743
00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:53,760
Speaker 2: Shut up, it's tortured poets.

744
00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:53,440
Speaker 1: A rap album.

745
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:54,560
Speaker 6: He is.

746
00:31:56,480 --> 00:32:01,640
Speaker 7: A all right, everybody wait, But I like your perspective

747
00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:05,400
Speaker 7: on I've never heard nobody say was just believing him.

748
00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:08,240
Speaker 7: I was like, oh really, because you come up with you,

749
00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:10,320
Speaker 7: I have to realize what you're walking into.

750
00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:13,400
Speaker 1: That's right, girl. No, he'll be serious, face serious.

751
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:18,360
Speaker 7: But you know that's why I'm like, I'm so glad

752
00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:20,000
Speaker 7: that he advocates for therapy because he does.

753
00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:21,720
Speaker 6: Need it, you know, true?

754
00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:25,800
Speaker 7: Yeah, absolutely, But I love your your take on how

755
00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:28,840
Speaker 7: you broke down why you like Lemonade. A lot of

756
00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:30,880
Speaker 7: people they like it for the surface reason. Oh she

757
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:32,960
Speaker 7: that's what she was betting about being che didn't all that.

758
00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:35,680
Speaker 7: I like it because the same reason is so many

759
00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:36,680
Speaker 7: different genres of.

760
00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:40,280
Speaker 6: Music and the like she did rock, you know that

761
00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:40,840
Speaker 6: she did.

762
00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:43,880
Speaker 7: She had her ballad, then the country, she had her country.

763
00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:47,400
Speaker 7: So somebody dad, right, daddy lessons that was on Lemonade

764
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:47,680
Speaker 7: like that.

765
00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:48,720
Speaker 6: I never heard.

766
00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:51,400
Speaker 7: Nobody say that, But that's why I like that. That's

767
00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:55,040
Speaker 7: why Eliminade is my favorite album of hers because of

768
00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:58,080
Speaker 7: it's no it's a no skip, because it sounds like

769
00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:01,440
Speaker 7: so many different genres. Just understanding because I you know,

770
00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:04,040
Speaker 7: i'd be in my little music a little bit you do.

771
00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:06,880
Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, just a little bit. You I'm like Okay,

772
00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:08,320
Speaker 6: she want me over with that.

773
00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:11,440
Speaker 5: I mean, I feel like the average listener like listens

774
00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:13,320
Speaker 5: to a little bit of everything, you know. I feel

775
00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:16,440
Speaker 5: like country is first of all, it's the way of life.

776
00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:18,600
Speaker 5: You know, it's a it's a lifestyle. It's kind of

777
00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:22,360
Speaker 5: how how uh? In this case, I'm a transplant, Like

778
00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:25,280
Speaker 5: I'm from Baltimore, like I'm from I'm from Randallstown, like

779
00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:28,640
Speaker 5: I'm from over like over by Morgan State, Like that's

780
00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:30,000
Speaker 5: that's where I grew up.

781
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:32,480
Speaker 4: That's where I lived. And so I I feel like

782
00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:33,960
Speaker 4: I just fell in love with it.

783
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:36,320
Speaker 5: My family we went down south every summer to something

784
00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:41,640
Speaker 5: South Carolina. Oh yeah, my mother's husband is from there.

785
00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:45,600
Speaker 5: And every year somebody die every summer, some to South Carolina.

786
00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:49,160
Speaker 5: Like Jesus I could like it was almost like clockwork,

787
00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:51,920
Speaker 5: like I just knew. I mean, God rest all of

788
00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:54,200
Speaker 5: this souls. And also it was a nice time driving

789
00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:56,760
Speaker 5: in South Carolina. That's that was my introduction to the South.

790
00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:59,680
Speaker 5: It wasn't the music at all, Like it wasn't country music.

791
00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:03,080
Speaker 5: It was going down South and just getting acclimated to

792
00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:05,840
Speaker 5: everything down there and watching people fight over whether to

793
00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:08,120
Speaker 5: put cheese or salt and pepper in your grits, like

794
00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:11,960
Speaker 5: that was that was my introduction and so, you know,

795
00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:14,720
Speaker 5: and so I feel like it is a way of life,

796
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:18,200
Speaker 5: and you know, it's it's not just sonically like what

797
00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:21,480
Speaker 5: you hear, it's not just instrumentation. It's the way you

798
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:23,319
Speaker 5: tell a story. And it's the stories that you tell,

799
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:25,799
Speaker 5: and it's your ability to be honest about it, you know,

800
00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:28,960
Speaker 5: it's the ability to connect with people through the lyrics.

801
00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:32,359
Speaker 5: Nashville is a song town, you know. And I think

802
00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:34,640
Speaker 5: it was Hank Williams that said something I'm a paraphrase.

803
00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:36,600
Speaker 5: He says something like, a you ain't got to be

804
00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:38,479
Speaker 5: from the South to do country. You just gotta be real.

805
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:40,920
Speaker 5: And that's true, Like you just gotta be real with

806
00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:42,920
Speaker 5: you shit. You just you have to be honest. And

807
00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:45,719
Speaker 5: that's what I try to do, you know. And I

808
00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:48,680
Speaker 5: feel like when I listen to a lot of these albums,

809
00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:51,439
Speaker 5: like a lot of these pop stars that are doing

810
00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:54,520
Speaker 5: country albums, I'm like, go for it. Tell your truth,

811
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:57,040
Speaker 5: you speak your shit, you know, talk do your thing.

812
00:34:57,239 --> 00:35:00,200
Speaker 5: Also disrupt the industry because all of it needs overhaul anyway.

813
00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:03,359
Speaker 5: So I'm interested Whenever label execs are like no, no, no,

814
00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:04,359
Speaker 5: I'm like, yep, that's the one.

815
00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:06,040
Speaker 4: That's what we need. That thing right there.

816
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:09,640
Speaker 8: I think that's what that's what's making people gravitate towards

817
00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:12,160
Speaker 8: country because, like you said, country music is all about

818
00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:15,440
Speaker 8: the storytelling, Like it's the great stories. I don't know

819
00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:18,160
Speaker 8: if they feel like they can necessarily tell those stories

820
00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:20,440
Speaker 8: and whatever they're doing because.

821
00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:22,439
Speaker 5: It's a lot of glitz and glam and a lot

822
00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:26,360
Speaker 5: of polish. Yeah, But the thing that's like connecting with

823
00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:28,960
Speaker 5: people like is people just being honest about how they

824
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:31,080
Speaker 5: feel and the stuff that they've been through. Like I

825
00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:32,480
Speaker 5: was reading something a few weeks ago that I was

826
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:35,200
Speaker 5: talking about how we've been in the loneliness epidemic for

827
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:38,160
Speaker 5: like a few years now, especially since like the pandemic,

828
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:41,279
Speaker 5: And I'm like, that's why people love introspective music right now,

829
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:44,359
Speaker 5: where people are just like just spilling their guts and

830
00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:46,839
Speaker 5: just telling the truth about how they feel, the dark,

831
00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:49,239
Speaker 5: the ugly. They're not trying to be perfect, they're not

832
00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:52,200
Speaker 5: just trying to give you like a like a cliche

833
00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:55,120
Speaker 5: love song. They're trying to like they're trying to be honest.

834
00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:57,440
Speaker 5: And I feel like that's happening a lot across a

835
00:35:57,440 --> 00:36:01,040
Speaker 5: lot of genres. But it's beautiful when I in country music,

836
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:03,600
Speaker 5: especially pair it with like the instrumentation that I love,

837
00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:08,600
Speaker 5: give me like some heartbreaking lyric with like a steal man.

838
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:10,880
Speaker 5: And growing up in church, I didn't have like, we

839
00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:13,280
Speaker 5: didn't hear steel guitar I equated to like an organ.

840
00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:15,279
Speaker 5: It was a friend of mine who told me he

841
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:17,560
Speaker 5: was like, the steel guitar to country music is the

842
00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:19,359
Speaker 5: organ to gospel. And I was like, oh man, that's

843
00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:23,799
Speaker 5: so true. It's a long, sad, extended note. You just

844
00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:25,920
Speaker 5: hold it down and you just I don't know. It's

845
00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:28,880
Speaker 5: a little shaky, you know, and it's I just I

846
00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:31,560
Speaker 5: feel it. I feel that I feel that lyric and

847
00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:33,239
Speaker 5: when you pair it with the right instrument and the

848
00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:35,920
Speaker 5: right production, I mean, I just feel like that could

849
00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:36,600
Speaker 5: unlock a soul.

850
00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:39,239
Speaker 8: I love what you said about the loneliness, and it's

851
00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:41,160
Speaker 8: like my last question, but because it made me think

852
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:42,399
Speaker 8: of this quote, I saw you said what you said.

853
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:44,200
Speaker 8: If I could go back when you first moved to Nashville,

854
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:46,200
Speaker 8: if I could go back, I would tell myself to

855
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:49,520
Speaker 8: use that time to find more of myself. If you're

856
00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:53,640
Speaker 8: not finding your people, at least find yourself expound on

857
00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:54,279
Speaker 8: that a little bit.

858
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:59,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, finding yourself is hard, Like knowing who you are,

859
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:01,840
Speaker 5: it's hard, and I think half of the battle is

860
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:04,879
Speaker 5: figuring out what you're not, you know, and that's that's

861
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:06,600
Speaker 5: a little easier. At least that came a little easier

862
00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:10,840
Speaker 5: for me. But just figuring out who you are, it'll

863
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:13,759
Speaker 5: help attract the right people, you know, Like I feel

864
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:16,600
Speaker 5: like sometimes I've spent so much time in life like

865
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:19,680
Speaker 5: not knowing who I am or what I want to

866
00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:23,440
Speaker 5: do or knowing my worth, and I attracted people who

867
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:26,759
Speaker 5: weren't interested in finding that out either, And that's I

868
00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:29,279
Speaker 5: feel like how I got a lot of my my

869
00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:32,160
Speaker 5: heart broken. Sometimes I feel like that's where I got

870
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:35,239
Speaker 5: like let down and just opening up to people who

871
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:38,080
Speaker 5: can only meet you as far as they've met themselves too.

872
00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:41,160
Speaker 5: You just have two broken people just just trying to

873
00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:44,400
Speaker 5: figure out why you keep crashing and not just I

874
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:47,200
Speaker 5: feel like, know who you are, it'll save you and

875
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:49,279
Speaker 5: a lot of people a whole lot of time. Like

876
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:52,480
Speaker 5: it's okay, everybody ain't for everybody, and you don't need

877
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:56,880
Speaker 5: to do everything, you know, like people pleasing and just

878
00:37:57,040 --> 00:37:59,239
Speaker 5: all that stuff. It's just a lot of that is

879
00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:03,000
Speaker 5: just not know who you are, and I don't know.

880
00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:05,440
Speaker 5: I wish I could go back in time. I mean,

881
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:07,800
Speaker 5: I won't say I have regrets. I don't really have regrets.

882
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:09,879
Speaker 5: I just have like if I could have a little

883
00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:12,360
Speaker 5: do over, you know, I do that, But like I

884
00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:14,560
Speaker 5: just I don't know. I would I would go back

885
00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:16,160
Speaker 5: and just try to figure out who I am a

886
00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:19,319
Speaker 5: lot sooner. Because also the other part of it is

887
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:21,960
Speaker 5: if you don't know who you are, there's somebody who

888
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:24,359
Speaker 5: probably knows that, and they will use that against.

889
00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:25,800
Speaker 4: You, like that is a weapon.

890
00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:30,520
Speaker 5: Like whatever you are ignorant here, you feel me whatever

891
00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:34,360
Speaker 5: you are ignorant to about yourself, Like you don't see yourself,

892
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:36,439
Speaker 5: you know, I don't see what I look like right now,

893
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:38,480
Speaker 5: but you can tell if there's a twitch in myles something,

894
00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:40,799
Speaker 5: if I'm uncomfortable. You can see probably more about me

895
00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:43,640
Speaker 5: sometimes than I can. And I feel like somebody look

896
00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:46,879
Speaker 5: at you long enough, they'll learn, they'll learn. And if

897
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:49,280
Speaker 5: you are if you're around the wrong people, that becomes

898
00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:50,839
Speaker 5: their weapon, you know.

899
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:53,920
Speaker 4: And so I feel I don't know. I just I

900
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:55,759
Speaker 4: want to I.

901
00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:59,000
Speaker 5: Would like to protect I mean, like I said, I

902
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:00,919
Speaker 5: don't have no regrets. You know, but if I could

903
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:04,120
Speaker 5: go back in time, I would have protected myself a

904
00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:06,640
Speaker 5: lot more. But then again, I wouldn't be who I

905
00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:11,160
Speaker 5: am right now, for we wouldn't have this conversation. I

906
00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:14,760
Speaker 5: probably wouldn't be asympathetic. I probably wouldn't be as vocal

907
00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:17,359
Speaker 5: as I am. Like even as I talk about the

908
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:19,760
Speaker 5: things that I feel need to change in country music,

909
00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:22,760
Speaker 5: like I'm not talking about it from like a place

910
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:26,080
Speaker 5: of like like you know, like y'all doing this, y'all

911
00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:28,359
Speaker 5: like it ain't like that. I'm actually saying like this

912
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:31,840
Speaker 5: is an invitation. Hey, there is a much bigger story

913
00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:36,680
Speaker 5: happening here and history will be told. You know which

914
00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:39,880
Speaker 5: side of it are you going to fall on? Because

915
00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:41,960
Speaker 5: we're going to talk about like this is a movement

916
00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:46,719
Speaker 5: that we're seeing like sonically, like even musically, racially musically,

917
00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:49,520
Speaker 5: this is a movement like we're watching a shift. Like

918
00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:52,280
Speaker 5: you know, when we talk about it in ten years,

919
00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:55,719
Speaker 5: were you forward thinking or were you trying to gatekeep

920
00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:59,840
Speaker 5: you know, a future that could actually that could actually

921
00:39:59,880 --> 00:40:03,560
Speaker 5: be really dope? You know, Yeah, it makes the whole

922
00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:05,480
Speaker 5: genre bigger and that and that's so really hard thing.

923
00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:07,400
Speaker 5: I mean, you from the South, you know, like the

924
00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:09,719
Speaker 5: idea of something becoming bigger and having more people like

925
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:11,480
Speaker 5: that can be really scary, you know, if you're from

926
00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:13,560
Speaker 5: a small town or if you're like because Naturale feels

927
00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:16,040
Speaker 5: like a big small town, it can feel really scary,

928
00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:20,359
Speaker 5: you know, like you know, getting ah, getting a bigger infrastructure,

929
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:22,839
Speaker 5: that can feel really scary, finding feeling like you're you're

930
00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:25,560
Speaker 5: losing your bearings or you know, but it's actually just

931
00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:29,000
Speaker 5: an invitation to explore something else, you know, and to

932
00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:31,920
Speaker 5: let something else in. There could be something really sweet

933
00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:33,920
Speaker 5: happening right now. And I feel like we watch it

934
00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:37,280
Speaker 5: so often in a lot of genres where there's shifts,

935
00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:40,439
Speaker 5: you know, musical shifts where something happens and a whole

936
00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:44,360
Speaker 5: new genre is made. Honestly, for me, the biggest like

937
00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:48,360
Speaker 5: like cultural difference for me, even in country music is

938
00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:52,160
Speaker 5: Black music is by nature very innovative, Like we abandon

939
00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:54,640
Speaker 5: genres and create a whole new and we've done that

940
00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:57,560
Speaker 5: like consistently, and so that was that's a that's a

941
00:40:57,640 --> 00:40:59,720
Speaker 5: that's a cultural thing for me, Like, if I'm honest,

942
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:02,680
Speaker 5: but I feel like I feel like the industry is

943
00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:05,080
Speaker 5: going to continue to shift, and I hope that people

944
00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:09,600
Speaker 5: feel this invitation for me and all anybody else speaking

945
00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:12,000
Speaker 5: out about this to just be like, Hey, something news

946
00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:14,200
Speaker 5: gonna happen. Let these pop artists come and do their thing.

947
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:16,640
Speaker 5: You know, I want to hear what they got to say.

948
00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:18,280
Speaker 5: I want to hear their country album.

949
00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:19,000
Speaker 4: Why not?

950
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:21,279
Speaker 5: Because I want to hear your gospel album. And I

951
00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:22,840
Speaker 5: want to hear the song that you do with that

952
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:25,120
Speaker 5: pop artist that you're featured on, and when you go

953
00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:27,400
Speaker 5: to that pop festival, like I want to hear I

954
00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:28,800
Speaker 5: want to hear it, and so and I think a

955
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:31,520
Speaker 5: lot of people do. And I think the fans want

956
00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:33,879
Speaker 5: to hear that as well, and so why not give

957
00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:36,239
Speaker 5: it to them, give them a show on the stage.

958
00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:38,680
Speaker 7: This is my last question speaking of when you were

959
00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:41,279
Speaker 7: talking about sweet things happening. You're going on tour with

960
00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:44,240
Speaker 7: Willia and Bob Willie Nelson and Bob Dylan.

961
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:47,280
Speaker 5: Girl, I've been on the road with really for three years,

962
00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:50,480
Speaker 5: and it just it never ceases to amaze me that,

963
00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:53,080
Speaker 5: like I get to do this, like the amount of

964
00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:54,960
Speaker 5: people like I'm excited to be on the rod. Really,

965
00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:58,160
Speaker 5: I've never toured with Bob before Bob Dylan, and I

966
00:41:58,200 --> 00:42:01,799
Speaker 5: think I don't know, like you know, nah, but I've

967
00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:02,480
Speaker 5: have had.

968
00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:03,279
Speaker 4: Some of his weed.

969
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:06,839
Speaker 5: He got this this company called Willy's Reserves, and they

970
00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:08,239
Speaker 5: like they just be pulling up on you in your

971
00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:10,759
Speaker 5: dressing room. They just like knock on the door, you know,

972
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:12,759
Speaker 5: and they just be like, I got you something.

973
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:14,799
Speaker 4: They got They got the canister. The cancer is fire.

974
00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:15,640
Speaker 4: I keep the canister.

975
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:16,319
Speaker 6: Yeah I got.

976
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:20,200
Speaker 4: I mean, I've ran out of that weed. But free rolls.

977
00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:23,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, so you ain't like falling asleep, you know.

978
00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:28,319
Speaker 5: And so and so I love Willie. I did meet him.

979
00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:30,920
Speaker 5: I sang with him, like he always invites like everybody

980
00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:33,440
Speaker 5: that's like that's been on the stage before him to

981
00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:34,960
Speaker 5: come and sing with him at the end of the night.

982
00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:37,080
Speaker 4: And he just like he's the sweetest, Like he blew

983
00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:38,600
Speaker 4: me a kiss one time in the middle of the song.

984
00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:41,239
Speaker 4: He was like what I was like, Willie, I love

985
00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:41,879
Speaker 4: you so much.

986
00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:44,759
Speaker 5: And so it's just it's an honor, like especially when

987
00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:48,800
Speaker 5: an artist is ninety years old, like to be able

988
00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:50,960
Speaker 5: to do this in their lifetime, Like that's how I

989
00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:53,560
Speaker 5: feel like. And uh, I mean I've gotten to do

990
00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:56,080
Speaker 5: this a few times, like three years with Willie. I've

991
00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:58,719
Speaker 5: toured with Uh. I mean, she's not at his age yet,

992
00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:02,279
Speaker 5: but Riba I've toured with her, opened up for Springsteen

993
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:07,960
Speaker 5: last year. I'm excited about Bob Dylan this year. Gosh,

994
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:09,640
Speaker 5: like I just I don't know. I get excited. I

995
00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:10,240
Speaker 5: get excited.

996
00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:13,040
Speaker 4: But also about the younger ones too. Yea open up

997
00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:19,239
Speaker 4: for Megan A Stallion. That was fun. First of all, yeah,

998
00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:19,879
Speaker 4: I did.

999
00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:23,719
Speaker 5: That was fun. I love touring, I really do. I

1000
00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:27,759
Speaker 5: love touring and it now yeah, I loved it before too.

1001
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:28,719
Speaker 5: That was the hard part.

1002
00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:31,840
Speaker 7: I was like, Yo, why am I none of that?

1003
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:33,600
Speaker 6: No, because Bob and really don't want to.

1004
00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:38,000
Speaker 5: I go up to c on the last song and

1005
00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:41,640
Speaker 5: I'm just, you know, just projectile, and then he kissing's.

1006
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:43,040
Speaker 6: Talking about like don't don't do that.

1007
00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:45,320
Speaker 1: I can't do that, you know.

1008
00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:49,480
Speaker 8: Roberts She said that whenever you are doing something new,

1009
00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:53,480
Speaker 8: you're going to have some form of anxiety because you've

1010
00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:55,880
Speaker 8: never been in that space before. Yes, so it's just

1011
00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:58,040
Speaker 8: like you kind of got to just embrace it, you know.

1012
00:43:58,040 --> 00:43:59,640
Speaker 8: Of course, we all got our techniques, you know, to

1013
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:03,120
Speaker 8: breathe next feelings and medication things like that, but you're

1014
00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:04,040
Speaker 8: going to feel.

1015
00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:08,200
Speaker 4: Something, Yeah, you are. Feelings, they're so hard. New things

1016
00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:08,600
Speaker 4: are hard.

1017
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:12,480
Speaker 5: I love touring, having a great time, and like I said,

1018
00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:14,279
Speaker 5: I'm the opening act right now, and I'm having a

1019
00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:17,920
Speaker 5: great time because people have been very kind and embracing me.

1020
00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:22,160
Speaker 5: And it's cool to like even just watch the stages

1021
00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:24,480
Speaker 5: that have let me on, like just as a country

1022
00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:26,359
Speaker 5: artist being able to say, like, in the same year

1023
00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:29,520
Speaker 5: you opened up for Reba and Megan Thee Stallion and

1024
00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:32,960
Speaker 5: Marion Morris and a Shiryl Crow, like that's that's an

1025
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:40,040
Speaker 5: eclectic like lineup of people. Like. But I like being

1026
00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:41,920
Speaker 5: the kind of artist that has songs for all those

1027
00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:43,480
Speaker 5: stages and I'm gonna keep doing it.

1028
00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:45,080
Speaker 4: I'm so proud, Brittany.

1029
00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:46,400
Speaker 6: We appreciate you for joining us.

1030
00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:47,240
Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen.

1031
00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:49,480
Speaker 3: My stupid life is out right now.

1032
00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:50,040
Speaker 1: Pick it up.

1033
00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:53,080
Speaker 8: Britney Spencer listening to Blackbird on Beyonce's Cowboy Carter.

1034
00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:55,719
Speaker 1: That's right, and it's The Breakfast Club. Good morning, thank you,

1035
00:44:55,960 --> 00:44:58,000
Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning.

1036
00:44:58,160 --> 00:44:59,160
Speaker 2: The Breakfast Club

1037
00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:01,040
Speaker 7: Sa