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To Do To Do, Dina Do Do Do 0:00:52.840 --> 0:00:59.480 Do Do Do Do Do Do Do Didna do Yeah? 0:00:59.560 --> 0:01:04.480 This as the Fantasy best Friends Forever. Here are the 0:01:04.480 --> 0:01:08.560 Fantasy Sports you're not working alongside Frankie Standfeld. I am Greg. 0:01:08.640 --> 0:01:12.480 Say what's going on about Gregg? A Happy Thursday to 0:01:12.640 --> 0:01:16.200 your bud? One fact about that song? Heard of playing 0:01:16.319 --> 0:01:19.080 at the bowling alley last night? Did you then bullish strike? 0:01:20.160 --> 0:01:22.240 Probably not all right. I think I only had like 0:01:22.280 --> 0:01:25.600 one or two of those across the span of three games. 0:01:25.600 --> 0:01:27.640 Not my best work, your best, do your best you 0:01:27.680 --> 0:01:31.360 can then trying speaking of the best weekend, We're trying 0:01:31.400 --> 0:01:33.319 to provide you the best show we can and to 0:01:33.440 --> 0:01:36.000 do that, we brought in a little help joined the 0:01:36.000 --> 0:01:38.880 program today. For the first few minutes, it's our buddy, 0:01:38.880 --> 0:01:41.560 Brad Ziegler. What's going on, Brad? Hey, guys, how are 0:01:41.600 --> 0:01:44.080 you doing. We're doing really well. Man. How yourself? Oh, 0:01:44.160 --> 0:01:46.800 doing pretty well, just kind of hanging out. And to 0:01:46.880 --> 0:01:50.000 see Frank's last name up on the screen, it was 0:01:50.000 --> 0:01:52.240 shocking to me how many consonants there are. I had 0:01:52.280 --> 0:01:55.320 no idea. Whenever you hear his name, you just kind 0:01:55.320 --> 0:01:56.640 of don't even think about it. When you see it 0:01:56.720 --> 0:01:58.200 up there, it's like, Wow, there's one vowel in the 0:01:58.240 --> 0:02:01.520 long last name. That's unbelievable. Yeah, it's It's been messed 0:02:01.600 --> 0:02:05.840 up multiple times. Throughout my life. As a childhood basketball player, 0:02:05.880 --> 0:02:08.960 I had multiple jerseys that were spelled very wrong. Brad, Um, 0:02:09.720 --> 0:02:11.880 it looks like somewhere in there, for sure, well, it 0:02:11.880 --> 0:02:14.640 looks like it should be stampel or stample and like 0:02:14.720 --> 0:02:17.400 someone just forgot the bottom line on the e. Yeah, 0:02:17.440 --> 0:02:21.320 basically that's the same mistake that everyone else's me. I've 0:02:21.320 --> 0:02:23.360 gotten like stamp fee with like an eye on the end, 0:02:23.760 --> 0:02:26.200 stand fee with a y. I've had stampell, Like you 0:02:26.240 --> 0:02:28.960 said to Brad, Um, you're not the only one. You're 0:02:28.960 --> 0:02:33.320 not alone, right, good? I don't I don't feel so bad. Then, fantastic, fantastic. 0:02:33.320 --> 0:02:35.320 I'm glad. I'm glad you guys have figured that out now, 0:02:35.639 --> 0:02:38.119 So so Brad. We obviously have you for a few 0:02:38.120 --> 0:02:41.480 minutes here, and I want to jump right into it 0:02:41.560 --> 0:02:44.080 with you, and I don't want to begin with a 0:02:44.080 --> 0:02:47.480 guy that we drafted together Frankie in the first round 0:02:47.520 --> 0:02:51.200 with the fourth overall pick, and we were excited because 0:02:51.280 --> 0:02:54.200 Jose Ramirez felt to us with the fourth overall pick. 0:02:54.200 --> 0:02:57.600 We've talked a lot about Josie Ramires and every anytime 0:02:57.639 --> 0:02:59.800 he does anything, we think it's a sign of him 0:03:00.080 --> 0:03:02.119 king out of a slump. Second half of last year 0:03:02.400 --> 0:03:05.200 didn't exactly work out so well. The first month of 0:03:05.200 --> 0:03:10.160 this year was just as bad. Is Jose Ramire is 0:03:10.200 --> 0:03:12.240 just in a deep slump? Can he not hit a 0:03:12.320 --> 0:03:16.320 breaking ball? What are you seeing with Josie Ramirez? It's 0:03:16.360 --> 0:03:18.080 kind of funny like this year is his numbers are 0:03:18.080 --> 0:03:20.560 actually better against breaking balls than than they are for 0:03:20.600 --> 0:03:22.760 his career. He's not hitting the fastball. He's hitting O 0:03:22.880 --> 0:03:26.400 eighty five against the fastball this year, which is just atrocious. Um, 0:03:26.440 --> 0:03:29.679 but he he is such a good fastball hitter that 0:03:29.720 --> 0:03:32.200 you think at some point that's gonna turn around. Um. 0:03:32.880 --> 0:03:36.120 I I you know, on our our show at the 0:03:37.240 --> 0:03:41.600 draft that we did, I was that was the one 0:03:41.640 --> 0:03:43.440 guy in the in the first round that I I 0:03:43.480 --> 0:03:46.000 saw like potentially not ending up a first round player 0:03:46.040 --> 0:03:48.440 because of the numbers against breaking balls. Um, they still 0:03:48.440 --> 0:03:50.920 concerned me. I mean, it's it's a super small sample 0:03:51.000 --> 0:03:54.640 size to to start the year, but um, he's not. 0:03:54.720 --> 0:03:56.400 It's not like he's ever gonna be a really good 0:03:56.400 --> 0:03:58.320 breaking ball hitter in my opinion. And with that being 0:03:58.360 --> 0:04:01.360 the case, UM, I think he's I didn't think he 0:04:01.400 --> 0:04:03.040 was going to be as bad as he's been this far, 0:04:03.120 --> 0:04:05.280 but I think he will be better, um, you know, 0:04:05.400 --> 0:04:08.960 over the course of the season, but not still not elite. 0:04:09.000 --> 0:04:10.680 I think he's going to settle in as like a 0:04:11.240 --> 0:04:14.320 you know, a twenty homer guy, you know, more like 0:04:14.400 --> 0:04:17.680 this year and and maybe um but but you know, 0:04:17.800 --> 0:04:19.960 lower average than he's hit in the past. He's obviously 0:04:20.160 --> 0:04:21.960 not getting on base as much as stolen bases are 0:04:21.960 --> 0:04:24.560 gonna be down. UM. I think that that to me 0:04:24.640 --> 0:04:28.000 is the biggest concern with him. UM. In regards to 0:04:28.040 --> 0:04:31.200 this year because you expect him to hit the fastball, 0:04:31.279 --> 0:04:33.279 and he's seeing a lot of fastballs and he's not 0:04:33.360 --> 0:04:35.520 hitting them. And I almost wonder if it's almost in 0:04:35.560 --> 0:04:38.240 his head about the breaking balls, where he's he's thinking, 0:04:38.279 --> 0:04:41.280 I need to work on my breaking ball so much 0:04:41.320 --> 0:04:43.080 that it is taken away from his ability to hit 0:04:43.120 --> 0:04:45.680 the fastball. And that's a really, really good point, because 0:04:45.720 --> 0:04:48.080 the fastball last year was never an issue, and the 0:04:48.080 --> 0:04:50.360 breaking ball, he pointed out to me yesterday, Frank has 0:04:50.400 --> 0:04:53.719 traditionally been one in his career, so raving right that 0:04:53.760 --> 0:04:57.120 he's just so focused on not missing that breaking ball 0:04:57.279 --> 0:04:59.600 or recognizing the breaking ball, he's just laid on all 0:04:59.600 --> 0:05:03.480 these fast balls under one's batting against a fastball. It's ridiculous. 0:05:04.000 --> 0:05:07.240 And we've been using the expected stats over on Baseball 0:05:07.279 --> 0:05:11.040 Savant using their stat cast data, and his expected batting 0:05:11.040 --> 0:05:14.200 average GREG on fastballs this year is to seventy one, 0:05:14.560 --> 0:05:16.920 So it seems like he's been a bit unlucky. I 0:05:17.279 --> 0:05:19.800 do agree with the point that Brad made that he's 0:05:19.839 --> 0:05:22.320 probably in his own head here regarding the breaking balls, 0:05:22.320 --> 0:05:23.760 and it might be throwing him off a little bit 0:05:23.880 --> 0:05:26.600 with the fastballs, But I mean there's a huge difference 0:05:26.600 --> 0:05:29.320 between his current batting average against fastballs and his expected 0:05:29.320 --> 0:05:31.800 batting average, and same thing with his slugging percentage greg 0:05:32.000 --> 0:05:35.280 to seventy four slugging percentage against fastballs this year his 0:05:35.440 --> 0:05:40.320 expected slugging percentage five three. It just seems like he's 0:05:40.320 --> 0:05:42.120 been a little bit unlucky. I think once the weather 0:05:42.160 --> 0:05:44.680 starts to warm up a little bit, especially you know, 0:05:44.720 --> 0:05:46.680 playing in the Al Central, they played in some cold 0:05:46.680 --> 0:05:49.599 weather locations to start the year, and and Cleveland as well, 0:05:49.720 --> 0:05:51.120 I think we're gonna see the ball will start to 0:05:51.160 --> 0:05:54.160 fly out a little bit as well. But overall, I 0:05:54.200 --> 0:05:59.440 do agree that this breaking ball issue, that's exactly what 0:05:59.480 --> 0:06:01.440 it is. It's an ongoing issue when it comes to 0:06:01.520 --> 0:06:04.960 Jose Ramirez. So maybe we don't get the two eight 0:06:05.080 --> 0:06:07.120 plus batting average that we were expecting out of him, 0:06:07.240 --> 0:06:10.080 but he's not a sub two hitter either. I think 0:06:10.520 --> 0:06:13.240 he'll probably raise it up to a round two fifty sixty, 0:06:13.279 --> 0:06:15.320 but he probably won't get to the batting average we 0:06:15.320 --> 0:06:17.520 all thought that he was going, and that means he 0:06:17.560 --> 0:06:19.400 won't get to the value that we all thought we 0:06:19.480 --> 0:06:22.360 were gonna potentially get fine stolen basis too, and I 0:06:22.440 --> 0:06:24.400 think the home runs are gonna come and bunches once 0:06:24.440 --> 0:06:26.640 the weather starts to heat up a little bit. What overall, 0:06:26.680 --> 0:06:28.279 you're probably right about that. Are we gonna get the 0:06:28.279 --> 0:06:30.880 thirty thirty that we were expecting? Probably not, But if 0:06:30.880 --> 0:06:34.640 he settles in Homers and still gives us thirty steals 0:06:34.640 --> 0:06:37.920 with a t S, I think based on this first month, 0:06:38.040 --> 0:06:40.960 owners will probably take that. You're probably right when it 0:06:40.960 --> 0:06:44.000 comes to Jose Ramirez um and what he could give 0:06:44.080 --> 0:06:47.360 us over the next four months after the debacle that 0:06:47.520 --> 0:06:51.080 was the month of April. Speaking about debacles, I feel 0:06:51.120 --> 0:06:53.159 like Tom Haller Rangers are thinking right now. He's spoken 0:06:53.200 --> 0:06:56.880 a lot about this as well this week, particularly the 0:06:56.960 --> 0:06:59.840 conduct extension that they gave their young closer Josie Look. 0:07:00.760 --> 0:07:04.039 After one month, it hasn't gone all that well, Brad. 0:07:04.040 --> 0:07:06.280 And it's funny because I actually think back to two 0:07:06.360 --> 0:07:09.200 years ago with Edwin Diaz, who was this young closer 0:07:09.279 --> 0:07:12.400 for Seattle, and they didn't give him the contract extension, 0:07:12.440 --> 0:07:14.120 but like he was somebody that was coming up and 0:07:14.160 --> 0:07:16.560 everyone was really excited about and he's dunk and they 0:07:16.560 --> 0:07:18.560 had to pull him from the closer role for really 0:07:18.560 --> 0:07:20.720 really about a week or two put him back in 0:07:20.800 --> 0:07:22.440 and then he became the dominant lights out guy that 0:07:22.480 --> 0:07:25.280 we saw most of the last season. Last night, notwithstanding 0:07:26.080 --> 0:07:28.200 la Clark is in this spot where he just had 0:07:28.280 --> 0:07:32.480 beginnings after beginnings after beginnings with Texas and Chris, what 0:07:32.600 --> 0:07:35.240 were their manager was like at this point, we have 0:07:35.320 --> 0:07:37.720 no choice. We have to move move him into lower 0:07:37.840 --> 0:07:41.080 levelage situations. We're sitting here kind of speculating that veteran 0:07:41.120 --> 0:07:43.480 Shean Kelly, who's done it before, we the closer, and 0:07:43.560 --> 0:07:47.240 it's not unfamiliar territory for for you, Brad, as you 0:07:47.560 --> 0:07:50.440 obviously had that role before. A closer is there, they 0:07:50.440 --> 0:07:52.680 don't get the jobs done. You kind of go in 0:07:52.720 --> 0:07:56.360 there and take over. How do you see this from 0:07:56.640 --> 0:07:59.920 both Shawn Kelly's perspective and from the perspective of the 0:08:00.080 --> 0:08:01.960 Rangers and who said the clerk, How do you break 0:08:01.960 --> 0:08:05.400 down this entire situation in Texas well? For me, I 0:08:05.400 --> 0:08:08.280 I think this is a scenario where I would be 0:08:08.360 --> 0:08:11.240 scared um to have the clerk on my team for 0:08:11.280 --> 0:08:13.200 the rest of the year, because it's one thing if 0:08:13.360 --> 0:08:15.600 if it happens with a veteran and and you know, 0:08:15.680 --> 0:08:17.840 at some point there's a track record of bouncing back 0:08:17.920 --> 0:08:20.720 after after a rough stretch. You don't have that with 0:08:20.760 --> 0:08:23.560 the clerk, And so it's it's possible that this is 0:08:23.840 --> 0:08:26.480 a little bit of a longer, a longer issue that 0:08:26.480 --> 0:08:28.720 that you know that you might be dealing with here. 0:08:28.720 --> 0:08:30.360 I think there's a really good chance that Shawn Kelly 0:08:30.360 --> 0:08:32.760 takes his job and runs with it, and and you 0:08:32.800 --> 0:08:35.400 know it is the closer, you know, you know, deep 0:08:35.400 --> 0:08:37.480 into the second half the season, not that the clerk 0:08:37.520 --> 0:08:40.360 won't get a shot necessarily again, and obviously they feel 0:08:40.400 --> 0:08:42.280 like he's the guy long term there. So I would say, 0:08:42.320 --> 0:08:45.040 for you know, any kind of a Dynasty League twenty, 0:08:45.120 --> 0:08:47.640 you're probably fine, um, you know, looking at him, but 0:08:47.679 --> 0:08:50.120 I would be very concerned this year. It's his numbers 0:08:50.120 --> 0:08:52.840 are are scary. He can't close out a three run 0:08:53.120 --> 0:08:57.000 save against the Pirates the other night. Um, it's it's 0:08:57.080 --> 0:08:59.360 it's a major confidence issue and for a young a 0:08:59.360 --> 0:09:01.040 young kid, a lot of times that's a really tough 0:09:01.080 --> 0:09:03.680 thing to overcome. So, um, I would be very hesitant 0:09:03.720 --> 0:09:05.640 to expect a lot out of him, especially in the 0:09:05.679 --> 0:09:07.880 next two or three months. Um, hopefully they can get 0:09:07.960 --> 0:09:10.000 him on track pitching it on lower level of situations, 0:09:10.040 --> 0:09:12.280 but even then as they start moving in back up 0:09:12.320 --> 0:09:16.640 the pecking order, uh for Foren or the twenty nineteen 0:09:16.840 --> 0:09:19.880 you know bullpen for Texas. I think there's a really 0:09:19.880 --> 0:09:21.760 good chance that he he kind of gets into that 0:09:21.800 --> 0:09:24.719 seventh eighth inning role is doing well, but Kelly is 0:09:24.720 --> 0:09:26.400 still pitching well in the ninth and if they're winning 0:09:26.400 --> 0:09:27.920 baseball games with him, they're not going to take him 0:09:27.960 --> 0:09:29.720 out of that role slelely to get the guy that 0:09:29.720 --> 0:09:31.640 they paid a little more money to, uh, you know, 0:09:31.679 --> 0:09:33.480 back in that job. They want to keep that guy's 0:09:33.520 --> 0:09:35.839 confidence high going into the next season because I don't 0:09:35.840 --> 0:09:39.080 think anyone, um, you know, thinks that Texas Rangers are 0:09:39.120 --> 0:09:41.600 competing for an a OS title this year, so they're 0:09:41.640 --> 0:09:44.040 they're more concerned about the long term situation, and that 0:09:44.080 --> 0:09:45.839 was why they gave him the contract in the first place, 0:09:46.080 --> 0:09:49.080 locking down long term, try to control his money. Um 0:09:49.240 --> 0:09:51.400 And and right now, you know, after a month into 0:09:51.400 --> 0:09:53.840 the season, it doesn't look like a great idea. But 0:09:54.000 --> 0:09:55.319 I think by the end of the year it'll balance 0:09:55.320 --> 0:09:57.439 itself out and and he'll be ready to go next year. 0:09:57.480 --> 0:10:00.240 But I would you know, for saves this year. Um, 0:10:00.320 --> 0:10:02.760 I think Kelly's a guy for the for a good 0:10:02.800 --> 0:10:04.679 majority the rest of the season for Texas. And that's 0:10:04.679 --> 0:10:07.880 really interesting because you mentioned that contratect extension and tying 0:10:07.920 --> 0:10:09.360 him up for the long term. They have to get 0:10:09.440 --> 0:10:11.480 him right for the long term like that. That's the plan, 0:10:11.559 --> 0:10:14.200 that's why they invested this money. So you think there's 0:10:14.400 --> 0:10:16.320 a very good chance that Sean Kelly runs away with it. 0:10:16.360 --> 0:10:21.160 But as someone that's been there, the Rangers aren't really 0:10:21.200 --> 0:10:24.200 going to compete we think for for the Al West title. 0:10:24.640 --> 0:10:27.319 Maybe this is an opportunity for them to get killing 0:10:27.320 --> 0:10:28.920 the closing role for the next month or two and 0:10:28.960 --> 0:10:31.160 then trade him away and then get and then give 0:10:31.240 --> 0:10:34.400 a clerk his job back. Is that realistic? Yeah, absolutely, 0:10:34.480 --> 0:10:36.680 it's I mean they're all you're always looking for ways 0:10:36.720 --> 0:10:39.960 to to create value with players, especially veteran guys that 0:10:40.000 --> 0:10:41.920 are they're on short contracts that you want to try 0:10:41.920 --> 0:10:43.839 to move with the deadline. You know, if he goes 0:10:43.840 --> 0:10:45.439 out and has has the next two or two or 0:10:45.520 --> 0:10:48.640 three months where he pitches really well, yeah, he'll absolutely 0:10:48.640 --> 0:10:51.559 be traded and and um then then you have a 0:10:51.640 --> 0:10:53.840 chance in August and September two to get the clerk 0:10:53.880 --> 0:10:55.640 back or or you know, you can get at least 0:10:55.679 --> 0:10:57.320 evaluate where he's at at that time and see if 0:10:57.320 --> 0:10:59.000 he's gonna be the guy, if it will be somebody else. 0:10:59.360 --> 0:11:02.240 But it's not a lot different than the pottery last 0:11:02.240 --> 0:11:04.360 season with brad Hand. You know, like brad Hand is 0:11:04.400 --> 0:11:06.880 not a traditional closer, but but you put him into 0:11:06.920 --> 0:11:09.040 that role. He was doing really well. They got a 0:11:09.080 --> 0:11:11.719 ton back for him and in trade value, so uh, 0:11:11.920 --> 0:11:14.720 it made sense from San Diego standpoint at that time. 0:11:14.960 --> 0:11:16.760 I could see the same thing happening with Texas this year. 0:11:17.520 --> 0:11:19.480 Speaking of closures, Brad, I didn't want to bring up 0:11:19.480 --> 0:11:23.000 the Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim situation right now. Cody 0:11:23.040 --> 0:11:26.120 Allen was very ineffective to start the season. They're not 0:11:26.200 --> 0:11:28.640 exactly tied into him the way that the Rangers are 0:11:28.640 --> 0:11:30.560 tied into the clerk. They signed Cody Allen to a 0:11:30.559 --> 0:11:33.840 one year deal and they have a veteran behind him 0:11:33.840 --> 0:11:35.800 in handled robots has that has been around for a 0:11:35.840 --> 0:11:38.079 little bit and we see, you know, yeah, points to 0:11:38.080 --> 0:11:40.960 this guy type. Butchery has been pitching the seventh, the eighth, 0:11:41.000 --> 0:11:43.880 ending the setup role for them, and he's been very effective. 0:11:44.320 --> 0:11:47.880 How do you think the Angels bullpen plays out here 0:11:47.920 --> 0:11:51.200 moving forward? I would think they probably want to leave 0:11:51.240 --> 0:11:55.120 Butchery in the role that he's in now. UM, he's 0:11:55.160 --> 0:11:57.320 having success there. He's a young guy. I mean, he's 0:11:57.320 --> 0:11:59.120 basically he's got such a small sample size in the 0:11:59.120 --> 0:12:02.440 big leagues that that his September last year is basically 0:12:02.480 --> 0:12:04.960 his April this year. He's he's almost duplicated the numbers. 0:12:05.200 --> 0:12:07.240 Would that be in the case you you you kind 0:12:07.240 --> 0:12:09.079 of don't want to move him around a whole lot, 0:12:09.160 --> 0:12:12.400 because again, I don't know that the Angels. Maybe maybe 0:12:12.440 --> 0:12:14.839 they're a team that UM is up playing better down 0:12:14.880 --> 0:12:17.360 the stretch, but they that's you know, you look at 0:12:17.360 --> 0:12:20.559 this division, you're thinking it's it's Seattle, Oakland and Houston. 0:12:20.720 --> 0:12:23.760 They're going after this title, and so the Angels are 0:12:23.800 --> 0:12:25.719 are going to be more concerned with the long term 0:12:25.720 --> 0:12:27.720 development of other players. I don't think there is concerned, 0:12:28.280 --> 0:12:31.680 UM with with their their roles right now. They obviously 0:12:31.679 --> 0:12:33.440 want to win games, because you want to build confidence 0:12:33.440 --> 0:12:36.760 in a in a winning environment. UM, but I think 0:12:36.880 --> 0:12:38.720 they're gonna take a guy who's got a you know, 0:12:38.760 --> 0:12:41.080 a little closing experience. I think you know, Roy's probably 0:12:41.120 --> 0:12:43.319 had two or three saves uh coming into the season 0:12:43.320 --> 0:12:46.160 in his career just kind of in in random spots. Um, 0:12:46.280 --> 0:12:48.360 but he he is a veteran pitcher, he's been around 0:12:48.360 --> 0:12:50.560 a long time. He's had good success year after year. 0:12:50.840 --> 0:12:53.360 So there's a really good chance that that he's gonna 0:12:53.600 --> 0:12:56.880 do fine in that role. Obviously, you know, like you said, 0:12:56.880 --> 0:12:59.040 they don't have a ton invested in Cody Allen. He 0:12:59.080 --> 0:13:01.079 was really bad in the second half last year and 0:13:01.080 --> 0:13:04.040 and down the stretch and so they um to the 0:13:04.040 --> 0:13:06.559 point where the Indians lost lost complete complete faith in 0:13:06.640 --> 0:13:09.400 him and and how to go and get Brad hands. So, um, 0:13:09.440 --> 0:13:13.000 it's I don't think. I think Allan's probably done in 0:13:13.000 --> 0:13:16.040 that role. Not that he can't be uh you know, I'm, um, 0:13:16.080 --> 0:13:18.200 you know, an effective middle inning guy, but he's gotta 0:13:18.200 --> 0:13:21.040 get healthy first. And um, I think Robots is probably 0:13:21.080 --> 0:13:23.760 the guy right now and Buttery, Buttery moves to the 0:13:23.760 --> 0:13:27.440 eighth inning and and um, I still, if it's me, 0:13:27.760 --> 0:13:30.200 I actually would prefer Buttery over Robosts because I think 0:13:30.200 --> 0:13:31.920 because all of his other numbers is gonna be better 0:13:31.920 --> 0:13:35.199 except for the saves. If you need just saves, Robots 0:13:35.280 --> 0:13:36.960 is probably the guy, or or Shawn Kelly like we 0:13:37.000 --> 0:13:39.199 talked about. But um, I think there's a really good 0:13:39.280 --> 0:13:41.520 chance that the buttery is actually the guy that you 0:13:41.559 --> 0:13:44.280 need um to to help all the other the other 0:13:44.280 --> 0:13:47.480 four categories with your you know your you know you 0:13:47.480 --> 0:13:49.560 are a whip strikeouts that kind of stuff, you know, 0:13:49.679 --> 0:13:51.839 Rad Ziegler here and and Rad, before I move on 0:13:51.880 --> 0:13:53.320 to Marlin's pitchers, do you want to eat your thoughts? 0:13:53.320 --> 0:13:54.640 And we don't have a couple of minutes left with you, 0:13:54.920 --> 0:13:57.800 but what do You're a pitcher and you go like this, 0:13:57.960 --> 0:13:59.720 You point to the guy like you think it's pop up, 0:14:00.000 --> 0:14:03.880 and it consistently goes over the fence as handel robeless 0:14:04.280 --> 0:14:10.360 constantly does How do your teammates react to that? Uh, well, 0:14:11.559 --> 0:14:14.000 it happened to me, or well, at least one time 0:14:14.040 --> 0:14:16.079 in my career. No one, unfortunately, I don't know anyone 0:14:16.080 --> 0:14:19.280 else in my team saw it, but it did happen. 0:14:19.360 --> 0:14:21.880 Hector Sanchez on the Giants hit a fly ball to 0:14:21.920 --> 0:14:23.360 center field in San Francisco, and it was one of 0:14:23.360 --> 0:14:26.000 those random games where the day game in San fran 0:14:26.080 --> 0:14:28.240 the wind was blowing out to the center and and 0:14:28.520 --> 0:14:31.160 it legitimately, you know, should have been a fly ball, 0:14:31.240 --> 0:14:32.680 but it was. It was one of those days in 0:14:32.680 --> 0:14:34.920 in San Francisco was a really high sky, no clouds 0:14:34.920 --> 0:14:38.000 in the sky. Um, and and so it would be 0:14:38.080 --> 0:14:40.080 one that you know, we hit it high enough and 0:14:40.080 --> 0:14:42.000 and far enough that it would be easy for for 0:14:42.040 --> 0:14:44.760 a center fielder to lose. So I pointed up and 0:14:44.760 --> 0:14:47.280 and uh, you know, unfortunately it landed in like the 0:14:47.320 --> 0:14:49.960 front row of the seats in center field. And um, 0:14:50.000 --> 0:14:52.200 it wasn't a good feeling because I just walked away 0:14:52.240 --> 0:14:53.800 from it thinking like he I really didn't think he 0:14:53.880 --> 0:14:55.880 hit the ball that well. And you know, the thirty 0:14:56.560 --> 0:14:59.120 wind on the on the bay in San fran you know, 0:14:59.160 --> 0:15:03.040 put pushed it out, but um, from road lays to standpoint, 0:15:03.080 --> 0:15:05.560 like at some point, you know, in in the minor 0:15:05.600 --> 0:15:08.600 leagues in in you know, when you're in in America, 0:15:08.600 --> 0:15:10.080 at least in high school and college, a lot of 0:15:10.080 --> 0:15:13.440 times you play on fields where the lighting isn't that good. 0:15:13.480 --> 0:15:16.160 And you know, whether it's daytime, nighttime. You know, even 0:15:16.200 --> 0:15:17.480 in a day game, you may not have a great 0:15:17.480 --> 0:15:20.680 backdrop behind the hitter. Um, so you end up up. 0:15:20.760 --> 0:15:23.360 You just kind of learned as a as a picture 0:15:23.440 --> 0:15:25.160 to point at everything in the air, whether it's to 0:15:25.160 --> 0:15:27.880 the catcher, whether it's to the outfielders whatever, because you 0:15:27.920 --> 0:15:29.560 just want to let them know if they didn't pick 0:15:29.560 --> 0:15:30.920 it up off the bat where it's at in the 0:15:30.920 --> 0:15:34.040 big leagues. That's a tough habit to break because you 0:15:34.080 --> 0:15:36.480 don't need to do that with the with the lights, um, 0:15:36.600 --> 0:15:38.400 the you know, there are a lot better on most fields. 0:15:38.440 --> 0:15:40.120 They've got good back drops behind the hitters most of 0:15:40.160 --> 0:15:43.080 the time, um for the fielders to see. So it's 0:15:43.400 --> 0:15:45.200 it's it's a tough habit to break. And at the 0:15:45.240 --> 0:15:48.080 same time, UM, you know, if they're hitting home runs 0:15:48.080 --> 0:15:49.560 when you're doing it, it's not a not a good 0:15:49.560 --> 0:15:52.320 feeling as a picture. And um, at some point, you know, 0:15:52.360 --> 0:15:53.960 there's probably gonna be somebody to say, like, dude, you 0:15:54.000 --> 0:15:57.600 gotta stop doing it. Um. I know we had a 0:15:57.680 --> 0:16:00.840 break in about a minute. You have like five more minutes. 0:16:00.920 --> 0:16:04.160 You can hang with us, just talk about the Marlins. Awesome, Okay, 0:16:04.240 --> 0:16:06.640 So we got the break coming up, so we're gonna 0:16:06.640 --> 0:16:07.920 talk to Brad. We can come back. And we had 0:16:07.960 --> 0:16:11.320 this conversation throughout really April, and it was how to 0:16:11.480 --> 0:16:14.720 rank these Marlins starting pitchers and we've been through it 0:16:14.760 --> 0:16:16.480 with it was basically everybody, but who say, you're right 0:16:16.520 --> 0:16:19.880 there right, like Caleb Smith and Trevor Richards and Sandy 0:16:19.920 --> 0:16:24.040 Alcantara and Pablo Lopez. And we're constantly trying to figure 0:16:24.040 --> 0:16:26.480 out how are we going to rank these guys? And 0:16:26.840 --> 0:16:28.440 my thoughts are Frank you give his thoughts in Florida 0:16:28.480 --> 0:16:30.960 wouldventure and everybody gave their thoughts. What I wanted to 0:16:30.960 --> 0:16:33.080 why I wanted to ask Brad was he pitched with 0:16:33.120 --> 0:16:36.040 most of these guys a year or two ago, or 0:16:36.080 --> 0:16:38.240 at least had seen them up close, so he knows 0:16:38.280 --> 0:16:41.400 there's stuff way better than we do. And we can 0:16:41.400 --> 0:16:44.640 talk about Pablo Lopez all we want, but I thought, Brad, 0:16:44.800 --> 0:16:47.120 I'll be very, very incightful with that. So coming up 0:16:47.360 --> 0:16:50.360 after the break, we're going to get into the Marlins 0:16:50.360 --> 0:16:53.560 and we're going to get into what Brad seas and 0:16:53.600 --> 0:16:56.040 how we ranked them and how badly you should need 0:16:56.080 --> 0:16:58.560 them and want to pick them up. Also, coming out 0:16:58.560 --> 0:17:00.600 a little bit later on next Or will be joined 0:17:00.600 --> 0:17:04.920 by Dr A from Inside Injuries, and we'll go over 0:17:04.960 --> 0:17:08.760 everything from Corey Kluber all on A. J. Pollock and 0:17:08.840 --> 0:17:11.680 what you do there and how you assess the situation. Well, 0:17:11.720 --> 0:17:13.680 of course, for the next two hours go over everything 0:17:13.720 --> 0:17:15.800 from last night as well. 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