WEBVTT - Targeted Attacks: We Must Move Together

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Tamika D. Mallory and it Shit Boy my Son

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<v Speaker 1>in general, we are your host of TMI.

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<v Speaker 2>Tamika and my Son's Information, Truth, Motivation and Inspiration.

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<v Speaker 1>New Energy.

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<v Speaker 3>What's up, Tamika D. Mallory. How you doing today?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm doing good, my SONA now.

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<v Speaker 3>You I am doing better.

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<v Speaker 2>It has been a rough week, but now I'm coming

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<v Speaker 2>to terms with the reality of what we're dealing with.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I got my mojo and I'm ready to go.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, yeah, me too. I'm good.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 4>I feel like I am putting into practice things that

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<v Speaker 4>I've learned since that horrific burnout.

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<v Speaker 1>That landed me in rehab.

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<v Speaker 4>Right, and you know, the trauma and everything that I experienced.

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<v Speaker 4>I talk about what I learned and how I came

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<v Speaker 4>out of it. But often times, as time goes on

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<v Speaker 4>and you have different experiences and you live in life,

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<v Speaker 4>we often forget about things. It's like when you drink

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<v Speaker 4>too much and then you're like, God, I promise you,

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<v Speaker 4>if you would just help me get over this, I

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<v Speaker 4>promise I won't drink as let next. Oh no, that's it,

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<v Speaker 4>this is my last time. And then of course five

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<v Speaker 4>times later, maybe even the next day people go back

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<v Speaker 4>to some of their old ways that you know, we revert,

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<v Speaker 4>and so I've had to be mindful of that in

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<v Speaker 4>this moment, and I write about it in my book,

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<v Speaker 4>my new book.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, I live to tell the story.

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<v Speaker 4>I live to tell the story, and that's the real thing.

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<v Speaker 4>I live to tell the story. And the story goes

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<v Speaker 4>and I say that I'm going to fight for freedom

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<v Speaker 4>until I die, but this time freedom includes me, right.

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<v Speaker 4>And so with that being said, I cannot allow my

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<v Speaker 4>self to go back to where I was in twenty

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<v Speaker 4>nineteen to ninety eight pounds, even though I wish I

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<v Speaker 4>could get to ninety eight pounds now shoot on my own.

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<v Speaker 1>Without being stressed out.

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<v Speaker 4>But that's a whole different day's topic, not ninety eight pounds.

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<v Speaker 1>But you get my point.

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<v Speaker 3>I guess, let me get my point.

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<v Speaker 4>So I can't allow that to happen. So I'm not

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<v Speaker 4>going to allow myself to drown.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel it.

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<v Speaker 4>I know where we are, and I think what is

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<v Speaker 4>very frustrating is watching people wake up knowing that like

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<v Speaker 4>we said this, we said all of this and had

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<v Speaker 4>been saying it before an election. Yeah, that's the other thing.

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<v Speaker 4>I just want to make sure that. That's clear. We've

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<v Speaker 4>been saying a lot of this stuff before an election.

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<v Speaker 2>Definitely way before election. Well, listen, how do people get

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<v Speaker 2>this book? When does it drop? Like this is our show?

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<v Speaker 1>People already know.

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<v Speaker 4>They already know because I'll be telling them every other day.

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<v Speaker 4>It's February eleven. Yes, first event is February sixth in Louisville, Kentucky.

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<v Speaker 4>It is extremely humbling and it's such a proud moment

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<v Speaker 4>for me to go to Louisville and have my friends

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<v Speaker 4>Sadiqa Reynolds and attorney Leanita Baker to be the host

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<v Speaker 4>of my first public event. It's actually before my book

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<v Speaker 4>comes out. It's a pre event. It's the first event,

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<v Speaker 4>and it means so much because you know what we

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<v Speaker 4>went through in Louisville. Yeah, you know that, and well,

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<v Speaker 4>and Louisville was right after I came out of rehab, right,

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<v Speaker 4>I mean right before.

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<v Speaker 1>Louisville was right before I.

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<v Speaker 4>Came out of rehab, right, because twenty nineteen, and then

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<v Speaker 4>we went there in twenty twenty. I was still a mess.

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<v Speaker 4>I was still trying to piece myself back together. I

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<v Speaker 4>was still dealing with shit. I you know, didn't know

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<v Speaker 4>exactly what I was gonna do which direction to go in.

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<v Speaker 1>I had so much.

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<v Speaker 4>Going on, And when Ben Crump called me, all of

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<v Speaker 4>that's in this book about you know, Breonna Taylor, we

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<v Speaker 4>went and so these are people that we've only known

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<v Speaker 4>for five years, but it seems like we've and it's

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<v Speaker 4>not even five years yet, but it seems like we've

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<v Speaker 4>known them for a lifetime. And they became our sisters,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, to Meeka Palmer, she excuse me, she's one

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<v Speaker 4>of the hosts as well of the event. And so

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<v Speaker 4>I'm just like, wow, you know, this book has.

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<v Speaker 3>Been I love to cover like show like show to.

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<v Speaker 4>This is the uh, the this is my vision.

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<v Speaker 3>It's the duality, all right.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the duality from you know, the braids to the

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<v Speaker 2>long here and it's just and this.

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<v Speaker 1>Is actually the housing projects that I grew up in.

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<v Speaker 4>People probably, oh, I can't even realize that and projects.

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<v Speaker 1>Yep.

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<v Speaker 4>So anyway, is this book was a lot to get out.

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<v Speaker 4>I always say that it's like I'm at the right now.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm in the delivery process. Like I already have my

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<v Speaker 4>date scheduled. It's February eleventh. I know we're gonna have

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<v Speaker 4>the baby that day. It's coming out, and all the

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<v Speaker 4>terrible things, the what do you have with morning sickness?

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<v Speaker 4>You nauseous, can't eat, can't rest, can't whatever. Most of

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<v Speaker 4>those things have subsided at this point from this book,

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<v Speaker 4>except you know, trying to get the tour done and

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<v Speaker 4>the sales where they need to be. That kind of

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<v Speaker 4>feels like the part when you need the body pillow.

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<v Speaker 4>Janie is looking like yes. Janice, who is our director

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<v Speaker 4>of everything over there, she's looking like yes.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm in that stage.

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<v Speaker 4>But it's pretty much I'm in the sailing part. We

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<v Speaker 4>know the baby is coming and win. But it was

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<v Speaker 4>a lot to get this done. The stories that I'm

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<v Speaker 4>telling in this book, I wish I could take like

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<v Speaker 4>five of them out because I don't know what I

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<v Speaker 4>must have been like, I don't.

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<v Speaker 3>Know, just telling you tell your business.

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<v Speaker 4>Or something that day and just went the little bit.

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<v Speaker 4>So but I'm glad that it's out here. I know

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<v Speaker 4>that this book is going to help somebody.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I look forward to reading it today, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>because I got my little copy and I'm gonna read it.

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<v Speaker 2>But I'm proud of you. And please make sure that

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<v Speaker 2>you'll go out pre order. Make sure that you at

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<v Speaker 2>every event on the tour, show out, show up, make

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<v Speaker 2>sure that you support this woman because the way she

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<v Speaker 2>fights for black people is undeniable.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, and also make sure that you get my son's

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<v Speaker 4>book I got a couple of years.

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<v Speaker 1>Last one is.

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<v Speaker 3>Called it's called Echoes in the Streets.

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<v Speaker 1>Echoes in the Street, and it's.

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<v Speaker 2>About gun violence, the stories about gun violence within the

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<v Speaker 2>inner communities in the cities, and it breaks down different

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<v Speaker 2>ways and strategies that community and you you can come

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<v Speaker 2>together and stop gun violence. So there's really really strong

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<v Speaker 2>stories inside. So shout out to my partner and publisher

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<v Speaker 2>Heed Yes.

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<v Speaker 1>Right cool.

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<v Speaker 4>So, so you know wherever, first of all, wherever you

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<v Speaker 4>buy books, Black bookstores very important, Barnes and Nobles. Also,

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<v Speaker 4>please pick up a pre order copy. I know how

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<v Speaker 4>we as black folks, especially how we are, we got

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<v Speaker 4>to we want to touch the thing. We don't want

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<v Speaker 4>to buy anything and wait for it to come. I

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<v Speaker 4>remember when we were out getting people to the polls

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<v Speaker 4>and I was like, you're not gonna early vote, Like

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<v Speaker 4>you could go vote today.

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<v Speaker 1>They be like our own vote early. I want my

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<v Speaker 1>vote on the day. I'm like, but you gotta stand online.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't care.

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<v Speaker 4>I want my vote on the day. That's sometimes how

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<v Speaker 4>we are, that's how we operate. But in the publishing world,

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<v Speaker 4>and shout out to my publisher, Black Privilege Publishing, CHARLEMAGNEA

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<v Speaker 4>god Atria, and the Simon and Schuster family.

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<v Speaker 1>But in the publishing world, authors need pre sales.

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<v Speaker 4>That's very helpful in terms of how their books get

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<v Speaker 4>out the bond.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 4>It's like when you know when you in a race,

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<v Speaker 4>you don't try to like take off slow. You coming

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<v Speaker 4>out moving. You're coming out moving. So that's what we need.

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<v Speaker 4>So you can go to Tamika D. Mallory dot com.

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<v Speaker 4>That's Tamika D. Mallory dot com and you can find

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<v Speaker 4>out all the things how to purchase the book.

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<v Speaker 1>Where the tour is going.

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<v Speaker 4>The sixth we're in Louisville, Kentucky.

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<v Speaker 1>The ninth, I'm.

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<v Speaker 4>At Jamal Bryant's Church, New Birth Baptist Church in Atlanta, Georgia.

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<v Speaker 1>The eleventh, well, actually the thirteenth.

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<v Speaker 4>The eleventh, I got something going on, but I ain't

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<v Speaker 4>really talking about it too much. If you know me

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<v Speaker 4>and you want to come to what I'm doing on

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<v Speaker 4>the eleventh, holla. But on the thirteenth, We're at the

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<v Speaker 4>New York Public Library on Fifth Avenue in Manhattan. I'm

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<v Speaker 4>gonna be with Jimani Williams, the Public Advocate, and Janelle Aggie,

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<v Speaker 4>who is the executive director of editing at Ebony Magazine.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, then we're in that's the thirteenth. The eighteenth,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm in Washington, d C. At Politics and Pros. Then

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<v Speaker 4>I'm in Tulsa, Oklahoma. Our family there, the Crutcher family,

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<v Speaker 4>and also Keim Roxy of Lamique Beauty. And then you know,

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<v Speaker 4>also in New Orleans, we're at Baldwin and Company. I

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<v Speaker 4>think that's on the twentieth, but don't listen to me.

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<v Speaker 4>Go to the website and look it up for yourself. Jacksonville,

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<v Speaker 4>Florida on the twenty second. We have a full schedule

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<v Speaker 4>of things that we'll be doing all of February, all

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<v Speaker 4>of March, and I'm really really excited.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't get to do this with my first book.

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<v Speaker 1>We were at home.

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<v Speaker 4>Although I had a star studded release for my first book,

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<v Speaker 4>we had everybody. We had panels and discussions online that

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<v Speaker 4>included everybody from Taraji p Henson to Tiffany Hattis. Of course,

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<v Speaker 4>Charlemagne was helping to hold some stuff. You held to

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<v Speaker 4>host things. Linda Sarsour was invo I mean I could

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<v Speaker 4>go on. Alicia Keys, you know, did panels and discussions

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<v Speaker 4>with me. So it's not that we did not have

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<v Speaker 4>a good amount of people who were supportive, but everybody

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<v Speaker 4>was at home. It was now going outside.

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<v Speaker 3>Now you outside with it, man.

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<v Speaker 2>So I definitely I know it's gonna be a good book,

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<v Speaker 2>and I know that people are gonna love it because

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<v Speaker 2>it's so authentic and raw, like every time you talk

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<v Speaker 2>about it, you got a team your eyes, and everybody

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<v Speaker 2>that's read it so far has tears in it. So

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<v Speaker 2>I make sure make sure that you go out and

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<v Speaker 2>get the book. Yes, and the news for me. Yesterday

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<v Speaker 2>was my youngest son, Kesten's birthday, Happy birthday casting He

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<v Speaker 2>turned eleven yesterday and we had a ball, took him

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<v Speaker 2>out to Humdinger's, this place he likes with his friends.

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<v Speaker 3>So I enjoyed that.

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<v Speaker 4>I just you got three sons and grandson.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a g from the gipop, but Kessen is like

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<v Speaker 2>he's a very he's an impact. He's a very intelligent

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<v Speaker 2>young boy and he picks up on everything like he

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<v Speaker 2>knows what you're thinking, he knows how you're feeling. You know.

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<v Speaker 2>He's very passionate about things. He messed up his foot

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<v Speaker 2>last weekend, you know, playing soccer, and he had a

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<v Speaker 2>game the next day he couldn't make it to. So

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<v Speaker 2>he was up all night.

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<v Speaker 3>Trying to heal itself together.

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<v Speaker 2>He was soaking his ankle, he was putting alcohol, he

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<v Speaker 2>put vics on his leg, anything you could think of.

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<v Speaker 2>He was trying to make it to that game. He

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<v Speaker 2>did not want to let down that team. He woke

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<v Speaker 2>up at eight o'clock in that morning, was like, tried

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<v Speaker 2>it again. He was just like, nah, Dad, he's still

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<v Speaker 2>been living. So I made a little joke. I've been

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<v Speaker 2>calling him young peg Leg and he hates that, but

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<v Speaker 2>I played with It's.

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<v Speaker 3>A joke, a joke. What God? Yeah, listen, everything is

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<v Speaker 3>not so serious.

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<v Speaker 1>No, But it's not that.

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<v Speaker 4>It's that injuries sometimes makes people feel already, especially like

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<v Speaker 4>you said, he can't play.

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<v Speaker 1>He already is feeling.

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<v Speaker 4>A way about that, and then you over here putting

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<v Speaker 4>a label on him, and.

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<v Speaker 1>They feel he laughed it up.

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<v Speaker 3>Sometimes he doesn't like it. Sometimes he likes it. Sometimes

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<v Speaker 3>Young peg Leg is fine.

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<v Speaker 4>He's he'll be good for you know that there are

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<v Speaker 4>people who really have peg legs. And it's kind of

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<v Speaker 4>like you saying that to him.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like saying, you know what, the reason why I

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<v Speaker 2>call him because he limps like he has one. He

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<v Speaker 2>looks like it looks like he has like a little

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<v Speaker 2>pirate sometimes when his legs starts hurting very much. Disregarding

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<v Speaker 2>these it ain't got nothing to do with I'm talking

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<v Speaker 2>about my son. You're talking about these people. This ain't

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<v Speaker 2>got nothing to do. This is not to offend anybody else.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a joke that I have with my son.

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<v Speaker 4>Right so please call somebody who actually has a peg

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<v Speaker 4>leg a peg leg, although he probably won't do that.

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<v Speaker 3>Because I will do that, because I would never do that.

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<v Speaker 2>I made a joke with him about his little foot

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<v Speaker 2>being hurt.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going to once again, happy birthday. I love you.

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<v Speaker 4>Listen if my granddaughter was being pushed in the swing

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<v Speaker 4>and when she said something, but her father was also

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<v Speaker 4>talking to our whole family on face time, because we

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<v Speaker 4>literally have everybody possible on a FaceTime. Whenever he wants

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<v Speaker 4>to show Blair and he hit something and then everybody goes.

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<v Speaker 1>In and go, hi, Blair, we love you. She's the

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<v Speaker 1>star of the show.

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<v Speaker 4>So he was pushing her, and he pushed her one

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<v Speaker 4>time and she said and she said something, but he

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<v Speaker 4>doesn't he didn't know what she said.

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<v Speaker 1>And her mom was there also, so he said, what

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<v Speaker 1>did you say? What does she say? So her mom.

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<v Speaker 4>Says, she said do it again or put or do

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<v Speaker 4>it one more time or something like that, and so

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<v Speaker 4>he goes, she didn't say that.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, she was probably.

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<v Speaker 4>Talking kind of baby gibberish, but a mother's gonna understand

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<v Speaker 4>her child.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't care.

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<v Speaker 4>You could be talking backwards and a mother is gonna

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<v Speaker 4>be like, I know exactly what that means. So he said,

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<v Speaker 4>she didn't say that, and Blair goes, yes, she's old too.

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<v Speaker 4>She said, yes, like mommy is right, I can do

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<v Speaker 4>it again.

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<v Speaker 1>I might not have said it exactly, but.

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<v Speaker 2>Listen, she wants you to understand, and she knows what

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<v Speaker 2>she wants for herself, and she wants you to understand

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<v Speaker 2>that she's expressing herself.

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<v Speaker 3>And her mama understood exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>That's exactly right. That's why I love my mother, because

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<v Speaker 1>my mother she knows she's they are they are.

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<v Speaker 4>We talk about this all the time. These kids parents

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<v Speaker 4>are amazing. It's not like when we was parents.

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<v Speaker 2>That's one thing I say about these kids. My son

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<v Speaker 2>is serious about being a father to his son. These kids,

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<v Speaker 2>they do not play about his son.

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<v Speaker 1>Now. They can have all.

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<v Speaker 3>Kinds of they're crazy otherwise, but.

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<v Speaker 1>Them kids, they serious about them kids. They go.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's a testament to you know, parenting that they

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<v Speaker 2>see they either you know, they feel like something didn't

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<v Speaker 2>happen that they want to happen, or they've seen something

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<v Speaker 2>happen that they want to.

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<v Speaker 4>Continue to Later on, they're going to realize we weren't

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<v Speaker 4>as bad as.

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<v Speaker 3>They That's what I think.

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<v Speaker 2>What happens is they realize it now because they realize

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<v Speaker 2>all of the pressure and stuff that they're under, and

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<v Speaker 2>then they're like, damn, I didn't even know you went

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<v Speaker 2>through this.

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<v Speaker 1>I just because it's hard.

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<v Speaker 3>It's hard.

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<v Speaker 1>Is very very very hard. It's very hard. It's very hard.

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<v Speaker 4>And speaking of hard things, there's a lot of hard

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<v Speaker 4>things happening in our world.

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<v Speaker 3>Love and I.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, I've only made one post maybe two about

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<v Speaker 4>the target situation and and just overall diversity, equity and inclusion,

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<v Speaker 4>and I am committed. I've only made two posts maybe

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<v Speaker 4>about it, maybe one and then also I only said

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<v Speaker 4>one thing like on camera. But I thought about it

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<v Speaker 4>and I listened for the last few days.

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<v Speaker 1>I just listened.

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<v Speaker 4>I was taking in all the different aspects, because you know,

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<v Speaker 4>we follow and are followed by all different types of people.

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<v Speaker 4>We got the super radical blacks, we got the Pan

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<v Speaker 4>African blacks, we got the the the bougie black, we

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<v Speaker 4>got the conservative blacks.

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<v Speaker 1>We had we every.

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<v Speaker 4>Kind of person, black person, we have somebody who is

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<v Speaker 4>a part of that Republicans of course, Democrats or whatever,

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<v Speaker 4>black women, black men.

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<v Speaker 1>Troll we got trolling, pntroll we have the trolls. We

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<v Speaker 1>have the ignorant.

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<v Speaker 4>We have all kinds of young, we have young, we

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<v Speaker 4>have different age groups. So we see a lot of things,

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<v Speaker 4>and I follow a lot of different types of people,

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<v Speaker 4>and I just want to I just listen.

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<v Speaker 1>I said.

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<v Speaker 4>The one thing that I have learned in my leadership

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<v Speaker 4>position is that I now don't where I used to

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<v Speaker 4>need to respond. I don't have to as quick because

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<v Speaker 4>the more information that I gathered before speaking, I think

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<v Speaker 4>it makes my voice more effective, more powerful. So I

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<v Speaker 4>just sat back and I kind of listened to people

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<v Speaker 4>sending me everything.

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<v Speaker 1>Every body sending me something.

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<v Speaker 4>And I know that part of the reason why so

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<v Speaker 4>many people are sending me so many different things is

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<v Speaker 4>because folks know that I have not said this is

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<v Speaker 4>what I think we should do, and they want to

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<v Speaker 4>try to not so much influence in a negative way,

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<v Speaker 4>but just put their perspective into mind.

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<v Speaker 1>In my in my thought process.

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<v Speaker 4>And so speaking of thoughts today, in my thought of

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<v Speaker 4>the day, I really want to take the time. And

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<v Speaker 4>we don't have a guest for this show because it

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<v Speaker 4>just we just couldn't fit it with what we want

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<v Speaker 4>to discuss. So I want to just start off by

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<v Speaker 4>saying that. So I want to put this at the

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<v Speaker 4>beginning in the end as a bookmark to Meeka Mallory

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<v Speaker 4>personally will not be shopping at Target. That's not going

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<v Speaker 4>to happen. I won't be going to Target. I have

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<v Speaker 4>always and will continue to uplift black brands. I am

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<v Speaker 4>a die hard support supporter of black people in general,

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<v Speaker 4>and I will continue to do that. But I personally

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<v Speaker 4>will not be shopping in Targets. Some people are saying

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<v Speaker 4>Black History Month, others are saying the third quarter. I

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<v Speaker 4>mean the first quarter. People have different ideas about it.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know when or if I will ever return.

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<v Speaker 4>Our history is that when we leave a brand, we

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<v Speaker 4>we almost never go back. I looked at myself today

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<v Speaker 4>and realize that I've been wearing my little Blenciaga sock sneakers.

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<v Speaker 4>I was a good I was a beyond a Blencioga

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<v Speaker 4>person like I liked Blenciaga. Uh and and I as

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<v Speaker 4>soon as they start with the kids and the videos

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<v Speaker 4>and the devil stuff and whatever, I don't know what

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<v Speaker 4>was going.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't even take.

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<v Speaker 4>The time to do bus so much research about whatever

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<v Speaker 4>that was.

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<v Speaker 1>But it just didn't feel right to me.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't like the way it looked, and I didn't

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<v Speaker 4>have anything to do with this side it packed up

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<v Speaker 4>a bunch of Balenciaga stuff and just gave it away.

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<v Speaker 4>I might I have like two sweaters, maybe three sweaters,

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<v Speaker 4>and these little sock sneakers. So that's where I'm at

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<v Speaker 4>with it. But I'm probably never going to be caught.

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<v Speaker 4>And when I say caught, I don't mean like gotcha,

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<v Speaker 4>but me personally walking into a store purchasing something from Balenciaga.

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<v Speaker 1>That's just me.

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<v Speaker 4>I gave up Gucci and the blackface sweater. I did

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<v Speaker 4>not like it. I felt, first of all, the impact

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<v Speaker 4>to me, it was very very disrespectful for people to

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<v Speaker 4>even try to make the excuse that they did not

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<v Speaker 4>know or that it wasn't exactly what we saw. And

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<v Speaker 4>so I just decided that I was done with it.

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<v Speaker 4>But then even if I even if I would have said, well,

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<v Speaker 4>maybe I'm overreacting or maybe we need to educate them

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<v Speaker 4>and it's going to get better, the way in which

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<v Speaker 4>things rolled out after that I didn't appreciate at all.

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<v Speaker 4>So I just don't wear a Gucci. But that's you know,

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<v Speaker 4>everybody do their thing. That's my personal thing. Then Kyrie

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<v Speaker 4>Irvin Nike, they cut their contract with him.

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<v Speaker 1>I cut Nike.

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<v Speaker 4>So you cut Kyrie, I cut you. That's it, simple,

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<v Speaker 4>one hard decision. First I was kind of like, what

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<v Speaker 4>we're doing. Everybody wears Nike. Then I realized it's not

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<v Speaker 4>that serious. I don't have to wear Nike. There's a

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<v Speaker 4>number of black brands, actively black being one of them,

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<v Speaker 4>there's other.

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<v Speaker 3>They just hit me a couple of Piers Niggas new.

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<v Speaker 1>Dope, sigh of collected.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, they go get Kyrie's the answers he got

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<v Speaker 2>all kinds of flavors.

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<v Speaker 4>So there's a there's a million things we can do,

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<v Speaker 4>and we're gonna talk about that because distribution is very important,

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<v Speaker 4>which is why this target piece is so serious.

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<v Speaker 1>Wiffle House ain't been back. The waffle house.

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<v Speaker 2>She was on my page ten somebody up this morning

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<v Speaker 2>talking about me, So she don't she don't play.

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<v Speaker 4>Shakisha Clemings was attacked, brutally attacked and dro in a

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<v Speaker 4>waffle house because a white woman wanted to try to

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<v Speaker 4>charge her for a plastic four.

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<v Speaker 1>And they and and and they.

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<v Speaker 4>What they did to her was something that it wasn't acceptable.

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<v Speaker 4>But what was worse was that waffle House response wasn't

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<v Speaker 4>even to respectfully say, we apologize for what took place,

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<v Speaker 4>and we you know, we don't condone the way in

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<v Speaker 4>which our employee and the police officers came in here.

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<v Speaker 4>They doubled down and acted like Squisha Clemings was some type,

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<v Speaker 4>like she was in there doing a robbery.

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<v Speaker 3>And then she took her to trial.

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<v Speaker 4>Right, and then tried to exactly the police took her

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<v Speaker 4>the trial to say she did something to them. So

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<v Speaker 4>waffle House been off my list. Okay, so I'm saying Starbucks.

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<v Speaker 4>Muslims said, we're not going to Starbucks because of their

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<v Speaker 4>support for and by the way, Starbucks has been around

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<v Speaker 4>in a cycle on my list of people that I

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<v Speaker 4>don't shop with, but specifically around Israel, Palestine and the

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<v Speaker 4>Palestinian people and Muslims in general, saying we do not

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<v Speaker 4>support Starbucks because of their support for the Israeli government

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<v Speaker 4>and what is happening. Unfortunately, whether you want to accept

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<v Speaker 4>it or not, it's whose side or you are you on.

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<v Speaker 4>That's just where we are right So Starbucks, I be

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<v Speaker 4>dying of I got a cold. I used to like

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<v Speaker 4>the medicine ball have I my stomach be growling.

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<v Speaker 1>Some airport you go in. All they have is a

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<v Speaker 1>little Starbucks.

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<v Speaker 4>Count and you know what I do, Get me some

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<v Speaker 4>water from a store and keep it moving.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't go in Starbucks. I'm saying all of this

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<v Speaker 1>to say to you all that I know that I'm different.

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<v Speaker 4>I know I was cut from a certain cloth that

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<v Speaker 4>is very, very different from most people. I know that

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<v Speaker 4>when a school calls me up, or a corporation calls

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<v Speaker 4>me up, and they get in touch with Toya and

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<v Speaker 4>they say they want me to speak at a conference,

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<v Speaker 4>or they want me to participate in some type of program.

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<v Speaker 4>But they tell me that I need to scrub my

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<v Speaker 4>Instagram page or I need to not say these things,

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<v Speaker 4>or don't do this thing, or don't wear this, And

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<v Speaker 4>I'd say I can't do those things, and they telling

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<v Speaker 4>me that it's twenty five thousand dollars or it's fifty

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<v Speaker 4>thousand for two sessions, or it's whatever. I have turned

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<v Speaker 4>it down many times. I have had people call me

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<v Speaker 4>on the phone and say to me, Tomka, your book

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<v Speaker 4>is about to come out, or this is about to happen,

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<v Speaker 4>or y'all just you know, the rebranding of your show.

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<v Speaker 4>You got all these things going on. Let's just leave

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<v Speaker 4>that alone for now. And strategically they might be right. Strategically,

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<v Speaker 4>what they're saying is probably it's probably right that if

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<v Speaker 4>I just go dark, stay under the radar, and just

0:25:21.320 --> 0:25:23.359
<v Speaker 4>you know you because there's different ways to work. You

0:25:23.359 --> 0:25:27.040
<v Speaker 4>don't always have to be in the front, right, You

0:25:27.080 --> 0:25:28.280
<v Speaker 4>can do things differently.

0:25:28.680 --> 0:25:28.919
<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 4>I've had people say that to me, Hey, just you

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<v Speaker 4>know for now, but that's not who I am. So

0:25:35.320 --> 0:25:40.720
<v Speaker 4>I have to take that into consideration whenever I'm out

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<v Speaker 4>here speaking to other people that we are not all

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<v Speaker 4>at the same place, we're not all on the same level,

0:25:47.920 --> 0:25:51.560
<v Speaker 4>and we're not all committed in the same way. Our sister,

0:25:51.640 --> 0:25:55.640
<v Speaker 4>Leslie Redman says something so true yesterday. Leslie Redmand, who

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<v Speaker 4>was the president of the Minneapolis chapter of the NAACP

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<v Speaker 4>while we were there fighting for George Floyd, she said

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<v Speaker 4>something yesterday.

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<v Speaker 1>It is so true.

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<v Speaker 4>Most people don't want to be free. Most Black people

0:26:11.760 --> 0:26:14.920
<v Speaker 4>don't want to be free. They want to be rich,

0:26:17.960 --> 0:26:21.560
<v Speaker 4>That's what and that's the fact. And sometimes being rich

0:26:22.520 --> 0:26:27.400
<v Speaker 4>looks like freedom. But if we know anything about that,

0:26:28.800 --> 0:26:34.119
<v Speaker 4>jay Z said, still nigga, OJ and all everybody. You

0:26:34.160 --> 0:26:39.679
<v Speaker 4>can have lots of money and still be treated like

0:26:39.720 --> 0:26:43.359
<v Speaker 4>a nigga. And so not to say we should not

0:26:44.840 --> 0:26:50.720
<v Speaker 4>acquire wealth, because we should, but wealth and freedom are

0:26:50.920 --> 0:26:52.320
<v Speaker 4>not the same thing.

0:26:53.119 --> 0:26:56.159
<v Speaker 2>It should it should be a balance, right, and it

0:26:56.240 --> 0:26:58.760
<v Speaker 2>should be real conversations like you said, you know, when

0:26:58.800 --> 0:27:01.440
<v Speaker 2>we when I looked at this hotel, good situation, when

0:27:01.480 --> 0:27:05.320
<v Speaker 2>I'm just looking at the last one hundred executive orders, right.

0:27:05.119 --> 0:27:08.479
<v Speaker 1>And hundred Yeah, there's been a hundred.

0:27:08.280 --> 0:27:12.720
<v Speaker 2>Executive orders signed in in the last week. And when

0:27:12.760 --> 0:27:16.399
<v Speaker 2>I'm looking at how these things actually roll back civil

0:27:16.480 --> 0:27:20.160
<v Speaker 2>rights that have been established for the last fifty sixty years,

0:27:20.840 --> 0:27:23.240
<v Speaker 2>you know, And you really just sit there and think

0:27:23.280 --> 0:27:25.760
<v Speaker 2>about this, And I say to myself, what are we

0:27:25.840 --> 0:27:27.960
<v Speaker 2>willing to say? And I've heard all these people you

0:27:27.960 --> 0:27:31.439
<v Speaker 2>know there are you know, we have we have black

0:27:31.480 --> 0:27:34.240
<v Speaker 2>scholars and black leaders that say that's good. We don't

0:27:34.280 --> 0:27:36.720
<v Speaker 2>need d you know, we need to separate anyway, We

0:27:36.760 --> 0:27:37.600
<v Speaker 2>need to do our own.

0:27:37.760 --> 0:27:40.280
<v Speaker 1>I don't know too many scholars they're saying, well.

0:27:40.080 --> 0:27:45.040
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I don't know, Okay, well these are this

0:27:45.080 --> 0:27:47.679
<v Speaker 2>is what they say. Doctor Claude Anderson has said that

0:27:47.720 --> 0:27:50.320
<v Speaker 2>we need to separate, and we need and that's what's

0:27:50.359 --> 0:27:52.359
<v Speaker 2>going to take for us to do is to build

0:27:52.400 --> 0:27:52.720
<v Speaker 2>our own.

0:27:52.760 --> 0:27:55.600
<v Speaker 3>And I do not disagree with those things. Right. I

0:27:55.640 --> 0:27:57.199
<v Speaker 3>do believe that we need to separate.

0:27:57.200 --> 0:27:59.160
<v Speaker 2>I do believe that we need to build our own,

0:27:59.359 --> 0:28:01.360
<v Speaker 2>but I do not believe that we should build it

0:28:01.840 --> 0:28:05.240
<v Speaker 2>while we are experienced injustice. I don't believe that we

0:28:05.280 --> 0:28:08.880
<v Speaker 2>should make it okay for them to do negative things

0:28:08.880 --> 0:28:11.520
<v Speaker 2>to us. I don't believe we should be okay since

0:28:11.520 --> 0:28:13.560
<v Speaker 2>we need to separate. You don't have to give us

0:28:13.600 --> 0:28:16.840
<v Speaker 2>what you owe us, right, we don't deserve the amount

0:28:16.920 --> 0:28:20.200
<v Speaker 2>of reparations and things that we've earned in America. I

0:28:19.880 --> 0:28:22.160
<v Speaker 2>don't I believe we should be doing both ads. It's

0:28:22.200 --> 0:28:25.840
<v Speaker 2>like I'm in jail and I'm filing for my pill right,

0:28:25.960 --> 0:28:27.800
<v Speaker 2>but at the same time trying to figure out if

0:28:27.840 --> 0:28:29.520
<v Speaker 2>we got to break out and I got life inside

0:28:29.560 --> 0:28:30.960
<v Speaker 2>here and I gotta break I'm gonna do both of

0:28:30.960 --> 0:28:32.920
<v Speaker 2>them at the same time. It's not gonna not fire.

0:28:33.880 --> 0:28:37.520
<v Speaker 2>And then if I'm locked up for life for a

0:28:37.560 --> 0:28:40.160
<v Speaker 2>crime I didn't commit. So this is what I'm trying

0:28:40.160 --> 0:28:42.760
<v Speaker 2>to tell you. I want you to understand we're inside

0:28:43.240 --> 0:28:46.960
<v Speaker 2>of This is jail for black people. We living in America.

0:28:47.040 --> 0:28:51.760
<v Speaker 2>We were sentenced to life in America, right, and we're

0:28:51.800 --> 0:28:54.360
<v Speaker 2>trying to figure out how do we get our freedom back?

0:28:54.440 --> 0:28:57.040
<v Speaker 2>Because that's what it is. It's a lifetime bid in America.

0:28:57.160 --> 0:28:58.640
<v Speaker 2>So how do we get our freedom back?

0:28:58.960 --> 0:28:59.160
<v Speaker 3>Now?

0:28:59.200 --> 0:29:01.440
<v Speaker 2>As I'm trying to from my freedom, I know that

0:29:01.480 --> 0:29:04.960
<v Speaker 2>America still owes me. So sure, I want reparations, I

0:29:05.000 --> 0:29:08.080
<v Speaker 2>want repair, I want You know what has been owed

0:29:08.120 --> 0:29:11.160
<v Speaker 2>to our ancestors who built America on his back, It

0:29:11.200 --> 0:29:14.120
<v Speaker 2>was never compensated for it. You know, we have built

0:29:14.200 --> 0:29:17.479
<v Speaker 2>our own economies time and time through our history, and

0:29:17.520 --> 0:29:20.720
<v Speaker 2>they have destroyed it. They've burned it down, they've disenfranchised

0:29:20.800 --> 0:29:23.920
<v Speaker 2>us over hundreds and hundreds of times.

0:29:24.240 --> 0:29:25.280
<v Speaker 3>This is documented.

0:29:25.520 --> 0:29:28.800
<v Speaker 2>So I don't I do not, you know, subscribe to

0:29:28.840 --> 0:29:31.800
<v Speaker 2>the fact that we what we actioning for is a handout.

0:29:31.840 --> 0:29:34.320
<v Speaker 2>We're not asking for handout. We're asking for we old.

0:29:34.520 --> 0:29:37.680
<v Speaker 2>But in the meantime, we should be building what you know,

0:29:37.880 --> 0:29:40.480
<v Speaker 2>our own economy should we should be building.

0:29:40.320 --> 0:29:41.280
<v Speaker 3>Our own structure.

0:29:41.320 --> 0:29:43.480
<v Speaker 2>We should try to separate and build out because everyone

0:29:43.480 --> 0:29:46.160
<v Speaker 2>else has done that. But what I say when people

0:29:46.240 --> 0:29:49.000
<v Speaker 2>say that to me is what are you willing to

0:29:49.120 --> 0:29:50.000
<v Speaker 2>sacrifice for it?

0:29:50.120 --> 0:29:50.280
<v Speaker 3>Right?

0:29:50.520 --> 0:29:52.560
<v Speaker 2>Because the same people that are saying, yo, we don't

0:29:52.560 --> 0:29:55.040
<v Speaker 2>want nothing from the white man and we don't want

0:29:55.040 --> 0:29:57.520
<v Speaker 2>this with the same people that's saying, well, we got

0:29:57.680 --> 0:30:00.320
<v Speaker 2>a stimulus check, right, and they wanted to make it

0:30:00.360 --> 0:30:02.760
<v Speaker 2>seem like that was okay. But that's not a hand though, right,

0:30:02.840 --> 0:30:05.400
<v Speaker 2>the same people that say they aren't willing to boycott,

0:30:05.440 --> 0:30:08.400
<v Speaker 2>they aren't willing to stop spending their money with the

0:30:08.440 --> 0:30:10.680
<v Speaker 2>people that's suppressing us. They don't want to They sit

0:30:10.720 --> 0:30:12.360
<v Speaker 2>there and say, yeah, we don't need none of this,

0:30:12.440 --> 0:30:14.960
<v Speaker 2>but you're not willing to make the sacrifices.

0:30:15.080 --> 0:30:17.840
<v Speaker 4>Well, it just depends, okay, because I just want to

0:30:17.840 --> 0:30:20.720
<v Speaker 4>make sure we put these things in little buckets. Because

0:30:20.840 --> 0:30:26.840
<v Speaker 4>first of all, when you said, they say, doctor Claude

0:30:26.880 --> 0:30:31.640
<v Speaker 4>Anderson and others have said that we need to separate, right,

0:30:32.200 --> 0:30:35.920
<v Speaker 4>And I don't know, Like I know that doctor Claude

0:30:35.960 --> 0:30:40.080
<v Speaker 4>Anderson teaches a lot about independence and all of that,

0:30:40.760 --> 0:30:43.360
<v Speaker 4>but I would love for somebody to just show me

0:30:44.040 --> 0:30:48.440
<v Speaker 4>where doctor Anderson has said that black people do not

0:30:48.680 --> 0:30:54.000
<v Speaker 4>deserve a seat at corporate tables, a seat in institutions,

0:30:54.000 --> 0:30:59.160
<v Speaker 4>that we should not have ourselves intertwined in systems where

0:30:59.200 --> 0:31:03.120
<v Speaker 4>we are able to monitor what is happening with the

0:31:03.280 --> 0:31:06.040
<v Speaker 4>millions of black people who are coming through the stores,

0:31:06.080 --> 0:31:09.360
<v Speaker 4>the banks, the colleges.

0:31:08.840 --> 0:31:09.440
<v Speaker 1>The whatever.

0:31:09.960 --> 0:31:13.320
<v Speaker 4>I do believe building our own is important and I

0:31:13.440 --> 0:31:15.760
<v Speaker 4>want to see us continue to do that because I

0:31:15.800 --> 0:31:17.680
<v Speaker 4>believe that there are a lot of people who are

0:31:17.800 --> 0:31:24.560
<v Speaker 4>in They're building sustainable communities, They're building you know, black banks.

0:31:24.600 --> 0:31:28.000
<v Speaker 4>You got Greenwood, which is Killer MIC's bank. You have

0:31:28.160 --> 0:31:30.880
<v Speaker 4>people that are doing all of these things, and so

0:31:30.920 --> 0:31:33.480
<v Speaker 4>we don't want to conflate them because I know that's

0:31:33.520 --> 0:31:33.880
<v Speaker 4>a group.

0:31:34.160 --> 0:31:35.240
<v Speaker 1>Then of course you have.

0:31:35.400 --> 0:31:39.120
<v Speaker 4>The stimulus check, it was more money in my pocket.

0:31:39.320 --> 0:31:39.720
<v Speaker 1>People.

0:31:39.800 --> 0:31:42.800
<v Speaker 4>But those people in these people are not the same people.

0:31:43.200 --> 0:31:45.239
<v Speaker 4>And then you have the people who are in the

0:31:45.240 --> 0:31:48.400
<v Speaker 4>middle who are like, the hell with everything, we don't

0:31:48.480 --> 0:31:49.760
<v Speaker 4>need them for anything.

0:31:50.120 --> 0:31:51.480
<v Speaker 1>Here's my thing.

0:31:51.600 --> 0:31:55.440
<v Speaker 4>Even with that, Okay, I've been asking people all weekend.

0:31:55.760 --> 0:31:57.800
<v Speaker 1>They said, well, we.

0:31:57.760 --> 0:32:00.880
<v Speaker 4>Don't need you know, we don't need anything from the

0:32:00.920 --> 0:32:04.200
<v Speaker 4>white man. And by the way, I think anybody who's

0:32:04.240 --> 0:32:07.360
<v Speaker 4>telling you that this moment, the executive orders and the

0:32:07.400 --> 0:32:11.000
<v Speaker 4>things that's happening in this nation are not going to

0:32:11.240 --> 0:32:14.440
<v Speaker 4>impact you. Any black person that says that to you,

0:32:14.760 --> 0:32:16.600
<v Speaker 4>that it doesn't have to impact you, or that it

0:32:16.640 --> 0:32:20.880
<v Speaker 4>doesn't impact you at least, they are ignorant, just and

0:32:20.920 --> 0:32:23.280
<v Speaker 4>not ignorant in a negative way, but they don't know.

0:32:24.160 --> 0:32:27.520
<v Speaker 4>At best, they are dangerous when they tell you that,

0:32:27.600 --> 0:32:31.080
<v Speaker 4>because we are all living in a society that impacts

0:32:31.160 --> 0:32:35.240
<v Speaker 4>every single one of us. Everything that happens, it impacts

0:32:35.360 --> 0:32:38.240
<v Speaker 4>all of us, whether or not, whether or not we

0:32:38.480 --> 0:32:41.920
<v Speaker 4>realize it. Even when we talk about violence in our communities,

0:32:42.000 --> 0:32:45.640
<v Speaker 4>we talk about you know, happiness in our communities, all

0:32:45.720 --> 0:32:50.400
<v Speaker 4>of that is in fact influenced by what is happening

0:32:50.520 --> 0:32:53.720
<v Speaker 4>in the atmosphere. So when you say that things don't

0:32:53.760 --> 0:32:57.840
<v Speaker 4>impact people, it's a very dangerous statement to make because

0:32:57.880 --> 0:32:58.280
<v Speaker 4>it does.

0:32:58.920 --> 0:33:03.040
<v Speaker 1>All policy are local, all politics.

0:33:02.560 --> 0:33:04.640
<v Speaker 3>Are local, and they affect everyone, and.

0:33:05.360 --> 0:33:08.080
<v Speaker 1>They impact all of us.

0:33:08.320 --> 0:33:11.960
<v Speaker 4>If you drive, you got to have gas, Okay, if

0:33:11.960 --> 0:33:14.520
<v Speaker 4>the gas price is high, that's.

0:33:14.320 --> 0:33:15.800
<v Speaker 1>Going to impact you.

0:33:15.800 --> 0:33:18.440
<v Speaker 4>You want to put your children in schools, and all

0:33:18.480 --> 0:33:22.160
<v Speaker 4>the things that you are doing every single day. Even

0:33:22.320 --> 0:33:25.680
<v Speaker 4>if you only do a little bit and you're more

0:33:25.720 --> 0:33:30.440
<v Speaker 4>self contained, you still will if you breathe the air

0:33:30.680 --> 0:33:34.600
<v Speaker 4>that's outside, if you don't have your own air, it

0:33:34.720 --> 0:33:38.880
<v Speaker 4>is impacted by whatever chemicals are being put into the

0:33:39.040 --> 0:33:41.200
<v Speaker 4>atmosphere or all of that.

0:33:41.280 --> 0:33:42.760
<v Speaker 1>So I don't want to say that.

0:33:42.920 --> 0:33:45.840
<v Speaker 4>I don't want people to tell you that policies don't

0:33:45.880 --> 0:33:48.640
<v Speaker 4>impact all of us. But we also have to keep

0:33:48.640 --> 0:33:54.160
<v Speaker 4>in mind that as we move about building our own

0:33:54.640 --> 0:33:58.600
<v Speaker 4>So you say, we don't need targets and walmarts in

0:33:58.640 --> 0:34:03.200
<v Speaker 4>all of these places, right, we don't need that. The

0:34:03.400 --> 0:34:08.120
<v Speaker 4>average person in our community is not going to build

0:34:08.200 --> 0:34:08.640
<v Speaker 4>our own.

0:34:08.719 --> 0:34:11.080
<v Speaker 1>There's only gonna be a few.

0:34:10.880 --> 0:34:13.840
<v Speaker 4>People who do it, and then people who funnel into

0:34:13.920 --> 0:34:16.840
<v Speaker 4>it and help it to thrive. Right, That's how it works.

0:34:17.080 --> 0:34:20.120
<v Speaker 4>So if you live in a food desert and you

0:34:20.200 --> 0:34:22.840
<v Speaker 4>don't really have transportation.

0:34:22.880 --> 0:34:26.880
<v Speaker 1>While we're on a five to ten year.

0:34:26.960 --> 0:34:31.160
<v Speaker 4>Process to building our own, which we should focus on

0:34:31.320 --> 0:34:34.600
<v Speaker 4>rather than focusing so much on being on the internet

0:34:34.600 --> 0:34:37.719
<v Speaker 4>telling everybody else, all of us what we're doing right, wrong.

0:34:37.520 --> 0:34:38.360
<v Speaker 1>This, that, and the third.

0:34:38.520 --> 0:34:43.080
<v Speaker 4>But if you building something five ten years, then how

0:34:43.200 --> 0:34:48.279
<v Speaker 4>is Jojo going to eat? Where is he going to

0:34:48.520 --> 0:34:51.200
<v Speaker 4>work right now?

0:34:51.239 --> 0:34:55.279
<v Speaker 2>And that's a That's another conversation that I'm having when

0:34:55.320 --> 0:34:58.680
<v Speaker 2>we have this conversation about boycotts and we talk about Target.

0:34:58.920 --> 0:35:01.799
<v Speaker 2>You know, there's been this long, large conversation about there

0:35:01.840 --> 0:35:05.920
<v Speaker 2>are black people who vendors, who have vendors who have

0:35:06.320 --> 0:35:10.319
<v Speaker 2>contracts with Target, and if we boycott Target, then it's

0:35:10.360 --> 0:35:13.000
<v Speaker 2>gonna hurt them and we shouldn't do that. And I

0:35:13.320 --> 0:35:16.880
<v Speaker 2>say to myself, there are hundreds and thousands of people

0:35:16.880 --> 0:35:20.080
<v Speaker 2>who are going to be affected because of these policies

0:35:20.120 --> 0:35:22.719
<v Speaker 2>that Target, and they're not going to have jobs, They're

0:35:22.719 --> 0:35:25.080
<v Speaker 2>not gonna have a way to survive this. They don't have,

0:35:25.520 --> 0:35:27.920
<v Speaker 2>you know, the resources to be able to produce and

0:35:28.040 --> 0:35:29.080
<v Speaker 2>be entrepreneurs.

0:35:29.120 --> 0:35:30.640
<v Speaker 3>Their families are going to suffer.

0:35:30.680 --> 0:35:33.600
<v Speaker 2>There are people who are in d oppositions in major

0:35:34.040 --> 0:35:36.239
<v Speaker 2>you know stores and Target and all that they're gonna

0:35:36.320 --> 0:35:38.600
<v Speaker 2>their families are going to be completely wiped out. Right,

0:35:40.440 --> 0:35:42.560
<v Speaker 2>These are this is a right reality. They are people

0:35:42.560 --> 0:35:49.560
<v Speaker 2>who are in positions. I'm just saying everywhere. So I'm

0:35:49.560 --> 0:35:52.080
<v Speaker 2>saying Target because when we talk about were Target and Target,

0:35:52.120 --> 0:35:55.640
<v Speaker 2>there are they were d I departments in Target that

0:35:55.760 --> 0:35:58.160
<v Speaker 2>these workers were working and that no longer existed.

0:35:58.520 --> 0:36:02.000
<v Speaker 3>So I don't know they also whole departments that have

0:36:02.080 --> 0:36:03.040
<v Speaker 3>been But I don't.

0:36:02.880 --> 0:36:05.879
<v Speaker 1>Know if Target has fired a bunch of people, Well.

0:36:05.760 --> 0:36:08.280
<v Speaker 2>If you scaling, if you deciding that you no longer

0:36:08.320 --> 0:36:10.880
<v Speaker 2>are invested in d I, then what is the department?

0:36:10.880 --> 0:36:12.520
<v Speaker 3>Where's the department gonna be at? Well?

0:36:12.719 --> 0:36:14.960
<v Speaker 4>Because I mean I don't know, I mean we we

0:36:15.040 --> 0:36:18.320
<v Speaker 4>we shouldn't. I don't know that they had a specific

0:36:18.320 --> 0:36:21.000
<v Speaker 4>department where people are going to be let go. They

0:36:21.000 --> 0:36:24.640
<v Speaker 4>may have reassigned people, giving them new titles or whatever.

0:36:24.800 --> 0:36:27.120
<v Speaker 4>I don't know if that has happened, but I can

0:36:27.239 --> 0:36:32.120
<v Speaker 4>tell you that in government offices, right, that is definitely happening.

0:36:32.280 --> 0:36:37.439
<v Speaker 4>In educational institutions, that is happening. So I can't say

0:36:37.600 --> 0:36:38.680
<v Speaker 4>in Target.

0:36:39.960 --> 0:36:43.400
<v Speaker 2>Just based off the policy, the culture, the culture of

0:36:44.160 --> 0:36:45.520
<v Speaker 2>dismissal exactly.

0:36:45.560 --> 0:36:48.600
<v Speaker 3>It's going to disenfranchise thousands of black.

0:36:48.400 --> 0:36:50.799
<v Speaker 1>People more maybe and probably million.

0:36:50.800 --> 0:36:51.440
<v Speaker 3>Probably millions.

0:36:51.440 --> 0:36:53.960
<v Speaker 2>So what I'm trying to say is, are we saying

0:36:54.400 --> 0:36:56.640
<v Speaker 2>that the one or two hundred people who are important

0:36:56.680 --> 0:36:59.120
<v Speaker 2>that we're not saying they don't have value but their

0:36:59.200 --> 0:37:03.160
<v Speaker 2>finances to proceed the cause of the many. Are we

0:37:03.280 --> 0:37:07.240
<v Speaker 2>saying that we're willing to sacrifice the millions of people's

0:37:07.280 --> 0:37:10.799
<v Speaker 2>lobbihoods and just the law and establishing something that.

0:37:10.800 --> 0:37:14.880
<v Speaker 1>Is all the respect of the respect.

0:37:14.719 --> 0:37:17.640
<v Speaker 2>Of the mass is in the lord, just the impact

0:37:17.680 --> 0:37:19.640
<v Speaker 2>that it's going to have, right, because once, if you

0:37:19.640 --> 0:37:21.720
<v Speaker 2>don't stand for something, then you're gonna fall for anything.

0:37:21.880 --> 0:37:23.200
<v Speaker 2>And if they can say, okay, you know what, we're

0:37:23.239 --> 0:37:25.960
<v Speaker 2>just gonna take that from y'all, and that's it, and

0:37:26.000 --> 0:37:29.279
<v Speaker 2>there's no response, there's nothing for us to sacrifice.

0:37:29.320 --> 0:37:29.560
<v Speaker 3>Nothing.

0:37:29.920 --> 0:37:32.520
<v Speaker 2>There's not enough of us that's willing to sacrifice so

0:37:32.560 --> 0:37:36.800
<v Speaker 2>that two hundred people can continue to thrive, or maybe

0:37:36.800 --> 0:37:38.680
<v Speaker 2>three hundred, but I know it's in the hundreds.

0:37:38.680 --> 0:37:41.600
<v Speaker 4>It ain't in the thousands they're saying.

0:37:41.640 --> 0:37:45.759
<v Speaker 2>So they saying that Target has contracts with thousands of

0:37:45.760 --> 0:37:46.320
<v Speaker 2>black people.

0:37:47.320 --> 0:37:48.439
<v Speaker 1>It's not just black people.

0:37:49.760 --> 0:37:52.360
<v Speaker 4>Because diverse, I'm not saying I don't ever want to

0:37:52.440 --> 0:37:55.080
<v Speaker 4>use the word the turn DEI I want to say

0:37:55.120 --> 0:38:01.720
<v Speaker 4>it completely diversity, equity, and inclusion, because when you say

0:38:02.120 --> 0:38:07.160
<v Speaker 4>those words, it makes it clear what somebody is saying

0:38:07.239 --> 0:38:15.920
<v Speaker 4>that they're they're model no longer fits diversity, equity and inclusion.

0:38:16.080 --> 0:38:20.160
<v Speaker 4>Equity is what y'all on the internet, all the Internet

0:38:20.280 --> 0:38:25.200
<v Speaker 4>negroes that know everything, that talk everything about why this

0:38:25.239 --> 0:38:27.239
<v Speaker 4>one and that one is weak, and this one ain't

0:38:27.280 --> 0:38:29.239
<v Speaker 4>no good and this one don't know know y'all are

0:38:29.320 --> 0:38:34.480
<v Speaker 4>talking about equity, building, equity, having more than enough for

0:38:34.640 --> 0:38:38.600
<v Speaker 4>us to survive. Right, So these companies are saying diversity,

0:38:39.360 --> 0:38:41.200
<v Speaker 4>equity and inclusion.

0:38:41.560 --> 0:38:44.160
<v Speaker 1>So to your point, but I'm tak you a thousand

0:38:44.200 --> 0:38:46.799
<v Speaker 1>and might be a thousand, might be fifteen hundred.

0:38:46.440 --> 0:38:48.319
<v Speaker 3>Okay, I don't, but it's still not.

0:38:50.000 --> 0:38:52.479
<v Speaker 2>Maybe it's a thousand, but based on what I've been hearing,

0:38:52.520 --> 0:38:55.160
<v Speaker 2>it's been hundreds. So a few hundreds of people. So

0:38:55.200 --> 0:38:57.960
<v Speaker 2>what I'm trying to say is, I think I'm willing

0:38:57.960 --> 0:39:01.120
<v Speaker 2>to sacrifice. I've sacrificed all time. But like you said,

0:39:01.360 --> 0:39:03.680
<v Speaker 2>I know that I'm built different. I know that there's

0:39:03.760 --> 0:39:07.680
<v Speaker 2>a level of revolutionary in me that most people don't have.

0:39:07.800 --> 0:39:10.800
<v Speaker 2>That's not like I was willing somebody did so uner Kyrie,

0:39:10.800 --> 0:39:13.840
<v Speaker 2>who's somebody I had never met prior to that, but

0:39:14.000 --> 0:39:17.120
<v Speaker 2>just that I identify with him in his struggle.

0:39:17.160 --> 0:39:19.840
<v Speaker 3>I said that these hundreds of pairs sneakers.

0:39:19.400 --> 0:39:21.960
<v Speaker 2>That I have, I no longer need them, and I'm

0:39:21.960 --> 0:39:24.520
<v Speaker 2>willing to throw them away because that's how strong I

0:39:24.560 --> 0:39:27.680
<v Speaker 2>am in my conviction about saying fuck you, because that's

0:39:27.680 --> 0:39:29.480
<v Speaker 2>how I feel. Everybody is not going to do not

0:39:29.640 --> 0:39:32.920
<v Speaker 2>understand that. But if we're not willing to, at the

0:39:33.000 --> 0:39:35.759
<v Speaker 2>drop of a dom say we're willing to stand on

0:39:35.880 --> 0:39:39.840
<v Speaker 2>principle and lose whatever it takes to establish a level

0:39:39.880 --> 0:39:43.440
<v Speaker 2>of respect amongst our culture, then we're going to find

0:39:43.440 --> 0:39:46.120
<v Speaker 2>ourselves back at the same position. So a lot of

0:39:46.160 --> 0:39:48.319
<v Speaker 2>people say, well, you know, we got to figure out

0:39:48.400 --> 0:39:49.600
<v Speaker 2>how do we go about a boy.

0:39:49.760 --> 0:39:50.520
<v Speaker 3>We gotta do that.

0:39:51.000 --> 0:39:54.640
<v Speaker 2>And I'm all for strategy, but I understand that the

0:39:54.719 --> 0:39:58.719
<v Speaker 2>longer we take to strategize, right, the longer we take

0:39:59.120 --> 0:40:04.000
<v Speaker 2>the longer, the the more ground we lose, the more.

0:40:04.760 --> 0:40:05.600
<v Speaker 3>Energy we lose.

0:40:06.000 --> 0:40:08.200
<v Speaker 2>Right now, people are fired up, They're looking and saying,

0:40:08.239 --> 0:40:10.719
<v Speaker 2>damn this is this is happening in real time. So

0:40:10.880 --> 0:40:14.240
<v Speaker 2>if what our leadership has to say in our leadership,

0:40:14.239 --> 0:40:17.759
<v Speaker 2>we have to say, listen, we gotta understand who's with

0:40:17.840 --> 0:40:20.560
<v Speaker 2>us and who's not with us, because you sometimes you

0:40:20.680 --> 0:40:23.120
<v Speaker 2>lose time trying to bring somebody to your cause that

0:40:23.160 --> 0:40:24.440
<v Speaker 2>ain't gonna come with you anyway.

0:40:24.680 --> 0:40:28.640
<v Speaker 4>Well, I mean, I have multiple feelings about that. I

0:40:28.680 --> 0:40:33.200
<v Speaker 4>think that yes, we do have to move with the time.

0:40:33.320 --> 0:40:37.920
<v Speaker 4>When you hear a cry from the community, or if

0:40:37.960 --> 0:40:42.080
<v Speaker 4>you hear just to give a better example, if you

0:40:42.160 --> 0:40:45.200
<v Speaker 4>hear a cry from a baby, you want to go

0:40:45.320 --> 0:40:47.920
<v Speaker 4>at least and look and address whatever it is.

0:40:48.360 --> 0:40:50.160
<v Speaker 1>But if you know that the.

0:40:50.200 --> 0:40:54.240
<v Speaker 4>Baby is crying out in the moment because they're hungry

0:40:54.280 --> 0:40:56.759
<v Speaker 4>and the food is not prepared, you have to go

0:40:56.960 --> 0:40:59.759
<v Speaker 4>let the baby cry for a little while while you.

0:40:59.760 --> 0:41:02.520
<v Speaker 1>Prep pair a meal that is going to nourish.

0:41:02.680 --> 0:41:05.000
<v Speaker 2>The problem is the baby won't cry for too long

0:41:05.280 --> 0:41:08.279
<v Speaker 2>in these situations what we deal with in our communities,

0:41:08.440 --> 0:41:11.520
<v Speaker 2>people have outrage for one week until weeks.

0:41:11.560 --> 0:41:12.239
<v Speaker 1>But that's what.

0:41:12.200 --> 0:41:14.240
<v Speaker 3>Happened is the news cycle changes.

0:41:14.480 --> 0:41:17.320
<v Speaker 2>Somebody talks about that this happened mc carty b and

0:41:17.360 --> 0:41:19.759
<v Speaker 2>this and that people's is on that this week.

0:41:19.880 --> 0:41:24.520
<v Speaker 4>But the thing about this time, Mice, I want to

0:41:24.560 --> 0:41:28.520
<v Speaker 4>say to you that those people are gonna drop off anyway.

0:41:29.320 --> 0:41:32.719
<v Speaker 4>So that means that the people you're talking about are

0:41:32.760 --> 0:41:35.560
<v Speaker 4>people who we would never be able to sustain anything

0:41:35.680 --> 0:41:40.160
<v Speaker 4>with because they're not serious about or committed to it anyway. Right,

0:41:40.840 --> 0:41:45.640
<v Speaker 4>the purpose of planning and strategizing is that, especially in

0:41:45.719 --> 0:41:50.400
<v Speaker 4>this particular time period, they are not gonna stop doing

0:41:50.440 --> 0:41:51.680
<v Speaker 4>the things that they're doing.

0:41:51.800 --> 0:41:53.080
<v Speaker 1>It's gonna get worse.

0:41:53.600 --> 0:41:57.600
<v Speaker 4>So there will be a need for a response that

0:41:57.800 --> 0:42:01.239
<v Speaker 4>is not just about target, but a response that is

0:42:01.280 --> 0:42:04.200
<v Speaker 4>about all this shit that's happening, and how do we

0:42:04.320 --> 0:42:08.200
<v Speaker 4>use our economic power to be our voices in the

0:42:08.239 --> 0:42:12.799
<v Speaker 4>midst of a fascist government that is attempting to take

0:42:12.840 --> 0:42:16.040
<v Speaker 4>away our rights and to make us second class citizens.

0:42:16.400 --> 0:42:18.680
<v Speaker 1>That's what we have to be thinking about.

0:42:18.800 --> 0:42:21.680
<v Speaker 4>And so yes, target is now, and I and one

0:42:21.719 --> 0:42:24.080
<v Speaker 4>of those people just like you, they ain't never got

0:42:24.080 --> 0:42:26.120
<v Speaker 4>to call me since they don't want diversity.

0:42:26.440 --> 0:42:28.920
<v Speaker 1>Damn it, I'm diverse. They don't want equity.

0:42:29.200 --> 0:42:34.080
<v Speaker 4>I believe in equity, and they don't want inclusion, no problem,

0:42:34.560 --> 0:42:38.040
<v Speaker 4>I don't. You don't need well, I mean, but even

0:42:38.480 --> 0:42:42.600
<v Speaker 4>talk about but even when we talk whichever one is

0:42:42.640 --> 0:42:46.680
<v Speaker 4>your thing. Whichever one is your thing, the diversity, the equity,

0:42:46.840 --> 0:42:49.960
<v Speaker 4>or the inclusion, whichever one is your thing. Because again,

0:42:50.440 --> 0:42:55.640
<v Speaker 4>we are not asking white people to give us money, right,

0:42:55.960 --> 0:42:59.640
<v Speaker 4>We're not saying inclusion means we want white people to

0:42:59.680 --> 0:43:03.640
<v Speaker 4>give us money. We're saying, I made a product. I

0:43:03.840 --> 0:43:08.360
<v Speaker 4>made Jaden made this good water. This is a good product.

0:43:08.800 --> 0:43:09.680
<v Speaker 1>This is not a.

0:43:09.640 --> 0:43:14.839
<v Speaker 4>Product that needs pity, it needs whatever. And guess what

0:43:16.000 --> 0:43:20.480
<v Speaker 4>black people shop at Target. So we're saying we want

0:43:20.520 --> 0:43:23.400
<v Speaker 4>to be in the shelf, on the shelf, in the

0:43:23.440 --> 0:43:27.279
<v Speaker 4>place where our people are walking past it. That's what inclusion,

0:43:27.320 --> 0:43:30.600
<v Speaker 4>men means. It means that you can't have black people

0:43:30.680 --> 0:43:33.560
<v Speaker 4>walking up and down these aisles and the only thing

0:43:33.680 --> 0:43:36.440
<v Speaker 4>they can find on the shelves are your things that

0:43:36.520 --> 0:43:40.560
<v Speaker 4>you'll profit off of. Inclusion means my black product needs

0:43:40.600 --> 0:43:43.279
<v Speaker 4>to be sitting right next to the poland spring, the

0:43:43.360 --> 0:43:47.279
<v Speaker 4>smart water, and whomever else, because we also deserve to

0:43:47.280 --> 0:43:50.560
<v Speaker 4>be on these shelves, since our people make up part

0:43:50.640 --> 0:43:56.000
<v Speaker 4>of the economy that keeps you going. Now, here's what

0:43:56.040 --> 0:43:58.800
<v Speaker 4>I want to say to get to your point about

0:43:59.160 --> 0:44:04.440
<v Speaker 4>how do I feel hearing black women, especially say I

0:44:04.719 --> 0:44:08.960
<v Speaker 4>put everything that I have on the line to get

0:44:09.000 --> 0:44:13.000
<v Speaker 4>my product on these shelves to be included. And going

0:44:13.040 --> 0:44:18.440
<v Speaker 4>back to the Kyrie Urban example, while Kyrie has incredible sneakers,

0:44:18.680 --> 0:44:21.440
<v Speaker 4>we already saw them. You have a pair of two

0:44:21.480 --> 0:44:24.759
<v Speaker 4>two pairs or whatever. I don't got nothing. I don't

0:44:24.800 --> 0:44:26.400
<v Speaker 4>know why I didn't ask for myself. Oh because of

0:44:26.400 --> 0:44:29.600
<v Speaker 4>my size, that's what it was. But anyway, he has

0:44:29.920 --> 0:44:31.600
<v Speaker 4>a line that's doing well.

0:44:31.640 --> 0:44:33.319
<v Speaker 1>When we were in whatever.

0:44:33.080 --> 0:44:36.320
<v Speaker 4>Country in South Africa, people were like buying them, people

0:44:36.320 --> 0:44:39.359
<v Speaker 4>were walking around in them. So we know that he's

0:44:39.440 --> 0:44:43.840
<v Speaker 4>gonna do well. But the distribution is different, and that's

0:44:43.920 --> 0:44:46.680
<v Speaker 4>why people are making sure they getting target in the

0:44:46.719 --> 0:44:50.840
<v Speaker 4>big box stores. Because the corner store sneaker store, that's cool.

0:44:51.080 --> 0:44:53.640
<v Speaker 4>You want to be there too, just like Nike is

0:44:53.680 --> 0:44:55.879
<v Speaker 4>in there too, just like New Balance is in there too.

0:44:56.200 --> 0:45:01.000
<v Speaker 4>In order to scale so that a little. Because I'm Rovio, Alabama,

0:45:01.000 --> 0:45:03.560
<v Speaker 4>where my family members live, they ain't got no small

0:45:03.719 --> 0:45:05.840
<v Speaker 4>too many small sneaker stores. Maybe they are one, but

0:45:05.920 --> 0:45:08.360
<v Speaker 4>not really right. They might have a sneaker store that

0:45:08.480 --> 0:45:11.560
<v Speaker 4>sells like sketches and that has something for people who

0:45:11.600 --> 0:45:15.160
<v Speaker 4>have prosthetic legs or something, you know, like elderly people,

0:45:15.160 --> 0:45:17.439
<v Speaker 4>but they don't have a fly ass sneaker store. Should

0:45:17.480 --> 0:45:19.560
<v Speaker 4>somebody open one, no problem, I agree with that one

0:45:19.640 --> 0:45:23.239
<v Speaker 4>hundred percent. But they got Walmart right, And so when

0:45:23.280 --> 0:45:25.640
<v Speaker 4>people are this is why people want to be in

0:45:25.719 --> 0:45:28.840
<v Speaker 4>these places where the masses can get to their product.

0:45:29.080 --> 0:45:34.120
<v Speaker 4>It builds generational wealth, and generational wealth ultimately helps people

0:45:34.160 --> 0:45:38.520
<v Speaker 4>in our community because our people generally hire their own people, right.

0:45:38.800 --> 0:45:41.560
<v Speaker 1>And so so I get the point.

0:45:41.760 --> 0:45:45.000
<v Speaker 4>I get the point of why we want diversity, equity,

0:45:45.000 --> 0:45:46.279
<v Speaker 4>and inclusion because.

0:45:46.040 --> 0:45:50.160
<v Speaker 1>We are the engine that fuels these companies.

0:45:50.640 --> 0:45:54.440
<v Speaker 4>But I just want to say this because I know

0:45:54.520 --> 0:45:57.319
<v Speaker 4>that there are people who want to know how I

0:45:57.400 --> 0:46:01.920
<v Speaker 4>feel about the video that Tabbit the Brown, who I

0:46:02.000 --> 0:46:06.480
<v Speaker 4>absolutely adore. I love tab With the Brown. I share

0:46:06.560 --> 0:46:11.560
<v Speaker 4>her videos, I talk about what she's said everywhere because

0:46:11.560 --> 0:46:15.400
<v Speaker 4>she is so authentic and beautiful and Courtney out of

0:46:15.560 --> 0:46:20.400
<v Speaker 4>La love Courtney. Courtney has supported us in the past.

0:46:20.760 --> 0:46:24.320
<v Speaker 4>I've been in space with her. She has the main

0:46:25.360 --> 0:46:28.680
<v Speaker 4>excuse me, the main choice. I support these women and

0:46:28.719 --> 0:46:30.760
<v Speaker 4>I see what they're saying, and that's why I stop

0:46:30.840 --> 0:46:34.399
<v Speaker 4>to listen because I know what struggles they have been

0:46:34.480 --> 0:46:38.040
<v Speaker 4>through in order to get to where they are today.

0:46:38.680 --> 0:46:42.320
<v Speaker 4>But I want to frame this and it's very important

0:46:42.320 --> 0:46:43.319
<v Speaker 4>that people hear me.

0:46:44.960 --> 0:46:46.280
<v Speaker 1>One.

0:46:46.440 --> 0:46:51.080
<v Speaker 4>It is not not smart because I heard that somewhere.

0:46:51.480 --> 0:46:52.600
<v Speaker 1>Let let's be smart.

0:46:53.640 --> 0:46:57.600
<v Speaker 4>It is not not smart to take your money and

0:46:57.640 --> 0:47:00.520
<v Speaker 4>put it in your pocket when you feel you being disrespected.

0:47:01.120 --> 0:47:02.800
<v Speaker 1>That is very smart.

0:47:03.040 --> 0:47:07.000
<v Speaker 4>So it is not not smart to say I don't

0:47:07.040 --> 0:47:08.160
<v Speaker 4>want to spend my money.

0:47:08.360 --> 0:47:11.760
<v Speaker 1>And I'm gonna tell you another thing. If you are.

0:47:11.640 --> 0:47:15.399
<v Speaker 4>Spending your money in a store with a brand, or

0:47:15.440 --> 0:47:19.840
<v Speaker 4>you are going into places and spaces and doing business

0:47:19.840 --> 0:47:23.600
<v Speaker 4>with people and they disrespect you, damn it, you should

0:47:23.600 --> 0:47:26.560
<v Speaker 4>be emotional as a motherfucker. When people keep talking about

0:47:26.680 --> 0:47:30.680
<v Speaker 4>don't be so emotional, it's too much emotions. I am

0:47:30.760 --> 0:47:34.600
<v Speaker 4>extremely emotional about the blood, sweat and tears that I

0:47:34.680 --> 0:47:37.880
<v Speaker 4>put into every dollar that comes into my bank account,

0:47:38.960 --> 0:47:42.560
<v Speaker 4>every dime I make. It's an emotional battle for me

0:47:42.840 --> 0:47:44.880
<v Speaker 4>because I know that if it were not for me

0:47:45.000 --> 0:47:48.840
<v Speaker 4>getting my ass up out the bed every single day, hustling,

0:47:49.160 --> 0:47:52.080
<v Speaker 4>dealing with situations and people that I don't want to

0:47:52.120 --> 0:47:56.200
<v Speaker 4>deal with, Feeling the pain, the pain of the struggle

0:47:56.560 --> 0:47:59.840
<v Speaker 4>of what it takes to be able to survive, that

0:48:00.200 --> 0:48:01.839
<v Speaker 4>is an emotional thing.

0:48:01.960 --> 0:48:04.400
<v Speaker 1>Between me and my resources.

0:48:04.640 --> 0:48:09.200
<v Speaker 4>Right, so when you disrespect me, I emotionally can respond

0:48:09.239 --> 0:48:10.840
<v Speaker 4>and say you won't get a dime.

0:48:11.200 --> 0:48:14.040
<v Speaker 1>Now, should leaders be strategic.

0:48:13.640 --> 0:48:18.359
<v Speaker 4>Absolutely, but consumers have the right to decide. As has

0:48:18.400 --> 0:48:22.040
<v Speaker 4>been said, Both Courtney and Tabitha and others have said,

0:48:22.120 --> 0:48:23.319
<v Speaker 4>do what you think is right.

0:48:23.360 --> 0:48:25.319
<v Speaker 1>So nobody has said don't do it.

0:48:25.920 --> 0:48:29.080
<v Speaker 4>But when we said we were going to boycott Gucci,

0:48:29.360 --> 0:48:32.640
<v Speaker 4>they told us, but Dapper Dan is there and he

0:48:32.719 --> 0:48:35.960
<v Speaker 4>has a partnership with them. We don't want to abandon Dappadan.

0:48:36.600 --> 0:48:41.360
<v Speaker 4>When we said we were going to boycott waffle house,

0:48:41.400 --> 0:48:43.720
<v Speaker 4>they said, but what about the employees?

0:48:44.080 --> 0:48:47.480
<v Speaker 1>We don't know, it might create this, that and the third.

0:48:47.680 --> 0:48:51.400
<v Speaker 4>The point is that every time we get ready to

0:48:51.560 --> 0:48:56.000
<v Speaker 4>say we're not going to spend our money somewhere, we

0:48:56.040 --> 0:48:58.680
<v Speaker 4>are told, but what about this?

0:48:58.840 --> 0:49:02.400
<v Speaker 1>That, and the third? And brothers and sisters, ladies and gentlemen.

0:49:02.640 --> 0:49:06.359
<v Speaker 4>I want to tell you today that I understand the

0:49:06.520 --> 0:49:09.359
<v Speaker 4>challenges because, as Angelo said to us when we were

0:49:09.360 --> 0:49:14.600
<v Speaker 4>meeting yesterday and whatever, that, black folks are always in

0:49:14.640 --> 0:49:19.040
<v Speaker 4>the catch twenty two. We always in between a rock

0:49:19.400 --> 0:49:21.960
<v Speaker 4>and a hard place, trying to figure out how we're

0:49:22.000 --> 0:49:25.359
<v Speaker 4>going to move forward. But the one thing I understand

0:49:25.840 --> 0:49:31.320
<v Speaker 4>so clear about oppression and about the white man who

0:49:31.360 --> 0:49:35.920
<v Speaker 4>believes that they have power and dominion over us, is

0:49:35.960 --> 0:49:39.279
<v Speaker 4>that they have studied our patterns and they sit back

0:49:39.320 --> 0:49:44.640
<v Speaker 4>and they watch us dismantle even our own people's frustration.

0:49:45.200 --> 0:49:51.719
<v Speaker 4>We are able to dismantle a movement without even negative intentions.

0:49:51.760 --> 0:49:56.080
<v Speaker 4>It's not even intentionally. We're just trying to figure out

0:49:56.120 --> 0:49:59.959
<v Speaker 4>which way to go. So whenever Black people get real

0:50:00.760 --> 0:50:04.560
<v Speaker 4>and we're ready to move, our own people are the

0:50:04.600 --> 0:50:08.520
<v Speaker 4>ones who helped to shift the energy, and we gotta

0:50:08.560 --> 0:50:13.799
<v Speaker 4>be real careful about that, real careful about that. And

0:50:13.840 --> 0:50:17.640
<v Speaker 4>so I personally am not going to target, but I'm

0:50:17.680 --> 0:50:23.480
<v Speaker 4>not going to join any particular call for boycott yet.

0:50:24.040 --> 0:50:27.000
<v Speaker 4>And that is because I want to go back to

0:50:27.239 --> 0:50:33.040
<v Speaker 4>the teachings of doctor King operation bread Basket, when he

0:50:34.000 --> 0:50:39.839
<v Speaker 4>was thinking through economic withdrawal, and they were using their

0:50:40.000 --> 0:50:44.719
<v Speaker 4>economic power, and they had points that they studied, and

0:50:44.760 --> 0:50:48.000
<v Speaker 4>they had points to their movement. And so there's a

0:50:48.080 --> 0:50:49.799
<v Speaker 4>lot of work that needs to be done, and I'm

0:50:49.800 --> 0:50:52.640
<v Speaker 4>not taking away strike for all people who are doing

0:50:52.640 --> 0:50:54.560
<v Speaker 4>different things. You got people out here saying I'm just

0:50:54.600 --> 0:50:57.360
<v Speaker 4>gonna walk in the door and I'm gonna get just

0:50:57.440 --> 0:50:58.200
<v Speaker 4>the black products.

0:50:58.239 --> 0:50:59.920
<v Speaker 1>You got people who are saying they're gonna do all

0:51:00.120 --> 0:51:00.800
<v Speaker 1>types of things.

0:51:01.040 --> 0:51:04.680
<v Speaker 4>But for us to have the impact necessary to show

0:51:04.800 --> 0:51:07.719
<v Speaker 4>these people that we're not playing with them, we're going

0:51:07.760 --> 0:51:11.480
<v Speaker 4>to need to come together, to sit down, to talk

0:51:11.560 --> 0:51:14.279
<v Speaker 4>through what our steps are, what our goals are, and

0:51:14.320 --> 0:51:17.160
<v Speaker 4>what it is that we're attempting to accomplish, and then

0:51:17.320 --> 0:51:21.000
<v Speaker 4>make a move that our people can get behind and understand.

0:51:21.080 --> 0:51:25.319
<v Speaker 4>Because right now, all this confusion, everybody's this one says this,

0:51:25.320 --> 0:51:27.439
<v Speaker 4>this one says that you lose.

0:51:27.200 --> 0:51:28.400
<v Speaker 1>People in the middle of it.

0:51:28.680 --> 0:51:30.480
<v Speaker 4>And then I'm saying this last thing, and I promise

0:51:30.480 --> 0:51:31.520
<v Speaker 4>I won't say another word.

0:51:31.920 --> 0:51:34.400
<v Speaker 3>You're talking good though, No, But I just want.

0:51:34.280 --> 0:51:35.239
<v Speaker 1>To say one last thing.

0:51:37.120 --> 0:51:45.520
<v Speaker 4>It is I and I I struggle because the last

0:51:45.600 --> 0:51:48.640
<v Speaker 4>thing that I want is.

0:51:49.200 --> 0:51:49.920
<v Speaker 1>To be.

0:51:53.120 --> 0:51:57.520
<v Speaker 4>At odds with our people. We've got enough, we got division,

0:51:58.080 --> 0:52:03.480
<v Speaker 4>we have so many things that pulls us in different directions,

0:52:03.520 --> 0:52:07.319
<v Speaker 4>and people just struggling, people just and people. People are

0:52:07.440 --> 0:52:11.480
<v Speaker 4>just trying to figure it out as we go along.

0:52:11.760 --> 0:52:15.080
<v Speaker 4>All of us have those moments, and so I want

0:52:15.160 --> 0:52:19.480
<v Speaker 4>to be conscious of that because most of the people

0:52:19.480 --> 0:52:23.280
<v Speaker 4>that I see involved in this truly love black people

0:52:23.400 --> 0:52:27.279
<v Speaker 4>like we love black people, and so I want to

0:52:27.320 --> 0:52:29.960
<v Speaker 4>be conscious of that. But I want to say to

0:52:30.000 --> 0:52:39.279
<v Speaker 4>you that movements protest and most importantly, fighting oppression is

0:52:39.480 --> 0:52:45.560
<v Speaker 4>not convenient or comfortable. People will hurt, people will lose,

0:52:46.080 --> 0:52:50.160
<v Speaker 4>people will suffer. But I promise you for everything that

0:52:50.239 --> 0:52:53.799
<v Speaker 4>I love that if we stand up and we do

0:52:53.920 --> 0:52:59.640
<v Speaker 4>it majority together right, even though some people may lose,

0:53:00.560 --> 0:53:05.600
<v Speaker 4>the gain on the end is for a long stretch.

0:53:05.680 --> 0:53:08.239
<v Speaker 4>I can't say a lifetime because they always circle back,

0:53:08.760 --> 0:53:12.240
<v Speaker 4>but it's a long stretch that we will be able

0:53:12.280 --> 0:53:15.120
<v Speaker 4>to make gains, even with our own young people being

0:53:15.160 --> 0:53:17.160
<v Speaker 4>able to look at us and see that we stood

0:53:17.200 --> 0:53:17.760
<v Speaker 4>for something.

0:53:18.239 --> 0:53:21.000
<v Speaker 1>And the idea that some of us are.

0:53:20.880 --> 0:53:25.240
<v Speaker 4>Gonna walk into Target and say, I'm just gonna purchase

0:53:25.280 --> 0:53:28.920
<v Speaker 4>the black brands. Perhaps some people might do that. I

0:53:28.920 --> 0:53:30.680
<v Speaker 4>think it's a lot of people that's gonna do that,

0:53:31.120 --> 0:53:34.719
<v Speaker 4>but the majority of our people will easily slip back

0:53:34.760 --> 0:53:37.560
<v Speaker 4>into what they got the paper towels on sale today,

0:53:37.920 --> 0:53:38.480
<v Speaker 4>they got this.

0:53:38.680 --> 0:53:40.320
<v Speaker 1>A boycott is a boycott.

0:53:40.360 --> 0:53:42.640
<v Speaker 4>If we say we don't shop at Target, we don't

0:53:42.680 --> 0:53:45.760
<v Speaker 4>shop at Target. So we do e commerce. We figure

0:53:45.760 --> 0:53:49.040
<v Speaker 4>out how to support people, but we cannot be walking

0:53:49.120 --> 0:53:51.839
<v Speaker 4>in and out the door. Because another thing I said

0:53:51.880 --> 0:53:53.920
<v Speaker 4>I was gonna say us. But another thing is that

0:53:54.400 --> 0:54:00.400
<v Speaker 4>your presence is also a part or lack thereof is

0:54:00.440 --> 0:54:01.600
<v Speaker 4>a part of a boycott.

0:54:02.000 --> 0:54:03.080
<v Speaker 1>Your presence.

0:54:04.680 --> 0:54:07.960
<v Speaker 4>Okay, So when you when you come through the door,

0:54:08.480 --> 0:54:12.960
<v Speaker 4>that in and of itself is a sign that in

0:54:13.080 --> 0:54:16.120
<v Speaker 4>and of itself shows.

0:54:17.239 --> 0:54:18.040
<v Speaker 3>Places other people.

0:54:18.080 --> 0:54:20.640
<v Speaker 2>Because the reality of the situation is there are people

0:54:20.680 --> 0:54:23.440
<v Speaker 2>who are saying, I'm not going to the store, I'm

0:54:23.480 --> 0:54:26.000
<v Speaker 2>gonna boycott, and they and they watch you walk into

0:54:26.040 --> 0:54:27.680
<v Speaker 2>that store and they just see.

0:54:27.560 --> 0:54:31.520
<v Speaker 4>Like, damn, I need to go to targeting that I

0:54:31.560 --> 0:54:35.560
<v Speaker 4>have anywhere, and people, people, you.

0:54:35.680 --> 0:54:38.319
<v Speaker 2>Need people to hold us to keep us strong, like

0:54:38.440 --> 0:54:40.120
<v Speaker 2>you know, because a lot of people are this is

0:54:40.360 --> 0:54:43.120
<v Speaker 2>Shopping is addictive, you know, especially when you when you

0:54:43.160 --> 0:54:45.239
<v Speaker 2>go to your Target and that's your favorite store. You

0:54:45.320 --> 0:54:47.279
<v Speaker 2>going every hour and it got what you want, and

0:54:47.760 --> 0:54:51.960
<v Speaker 2>you used to that, and you you you're fighting against

0:54:52.120 --> 0:54:54.960
<v Speaker 2>that urge and you see somebody else that you know

0:54:55.000 --> 0:54:56.799
<v Speaker 2>has that same urge and say, look, I know it's hard,

0:54:56.840 --> 0:54:58.920
<v Speaker 2>but we ain't going to that Target. And y'all walk

0:54:59.000 --> 0:55:01.000
<v Speaker 2>to another store and you we start getting used to it.

0:55:01.280 --> 0:55:03.640
<v Speaker 2>We need we listen to me, like you said, we

0:55:04.080 --> 0:55:07.960
<v Speaker 2>have to be steadfast and we have to be unified

0:55:08.600 --> 0:55:11.440
<v Speaker 2>in order to get because on the other side of it,

0:55:11.440 --> 0:55:13.960
<v Speaker 2>it shows these people that they can't play with us.

0:55:14.120 --> 0:55:15.759
<v Speaker 2>It shows them that, you know what, we have to

0:55:15.800 --> 0:55:18.359
<v Speaker 2>make consensions. We have to come back, we have to

0:55:18.520 --> 0:55:21.640
<v Speaker 2>rethink this, We have to have meetings because we moved

0:55:21.640 --> 0:55:22.560
<v Speaker 2>a little too fast.

0:55:22.880 --> 0:55:25.080
<v Speaker 3>And that's what history has told us.

0:55:25.080 --> 0:55:27.719
<v Speaker 2>When we talk about Operation Break Basket and we talk

0:55:27.760 --> 0:55:30.320
<v Speaker 2>about Doctor King and the boycotts they had, it's because

0:55:30.440 --> 0:55:33.000
<v Speaker 2>they were willing to sacrifice for a year. They were

0:55:33.000 --> 0:55:35.000
<v Speaker 2>willing to say I'm not going to do this. The

0:55:35.040 --> 0:55:37.520
<v Speaker 2>majority of us, ninety nine percent of us are not

0:55:37.560 --> 0:55:39.600
<v Speaker 2>going to Sure, there was people who back, and there.

0:55:39.480 --> 0:55:42.440
<v Speaker 4>Are people right now who need the bread and they

0:55:42.520 --> 0:55:44.760
<v Speaker 4>only have a Walmart or they only have a Target.

0:55:44.760 --> 0:55:47.239
<v Speaker 2>And we understand, and you know we have to do

0:55:47.880 --> 0:55:49.800
<v Speaker 2>in our organizer, we have to figure out how do

0:55:49.880 --> 0:55:52.279
<v Speaker 2>we get them some bread and how do we get

0:55:52.280 --> 0:55:56.080
<v Speaker 2>them to another store? You know, as as thoughtful leaders.

0:55:56.120 --> 0:55:57.560
<v Speaker 2>This is what I want to talk about. I want

0:55:57.600 --> 0:56:00.080
<v Speaker 2>to talk about, Okay, we're boycotting, right, We're gonna go

0:56:00.080 --> 0:56:01.600
<v Speaker 2>outside and we're gonna pick it in front of it.

0:56:01.719 --> 0:56:04.160
<v Speaker 2>We're gonna pick a target today that we're gonna go

0:56:04.160 --> 0:56:06.280
<v Speaker 2>out and we're gonna explain why we're not going to target.

0:56:06.360 --> 0:56:08.719
<v Speaker 2>We're gonna tell people where else they can go. We're

0:56:08.719 --> 0:56:10.440
<v Speaker 2>gonna say, you know what, we're willing to set up.

0:56:10.440 --> 0:56:12.600
<v Speaker 2>We have two or three cars a day that's willing

0:56:12.600 --> 0:56:14.560
<v Speaker 2>to take you. If you can't get to another store,

0:56:14.600 --> 0:56:16.360
<v Speaker 2>we're gonna willing to drop. These are things, These are

0:56:16.400 --> 0:56:19.080
<v Speaker 2>strategic things that we have to do to show community,

0:56:19.080 --> 0:56:21.040
<v Speaker 2>to show unity, that we're not just doing something on

0:56:21.040 --> 0:56:23.600
<v Speaker 2>a whim. But that's what the Panthers was doing. That's

0:56:23.600 --> 0:56:26.760
<v Speaker 2>what doctor king Ino was doing. They were utilizing their resources,

0:56:26.800 --> 0:56:29.480
<v Speaker 2>they were utilizing their bodies. They were able to give

0:56:29.560 --> 0:56:32.080
<v Speaker 2>whatever we can and that's when we come together like that.

0:56:32.360 --> 0:56:34.400
<v Speaker 2>There's no way that they can beat us. There is

0:56:34.560 --> 0:56:37.399
<v Speaker 2>absolutely no way that they can beat us. So I'm

0:56:37.440 --> 0:56:40.200
<v Speaker 2>saying to you, I already know what I'm willing to sacrifice.

0:56:40.320 --> 0:56:42.480
<v Speaker 2>I know how far to me is willing to go

0:56:42.719 --> 0:56:45.319
<v Speaker 2>and sacrifice on behalf of our people and to get

0:56:45.320 --> 0:56:48.080
<v Speaker 2>the respect and the dignity not even just the resource,

0:56:48.120 --> 0:56:49.600
<v Speaker 2>but the dignity that we deserve.

0:56:49.880 --> 0:56:51.240
<v Speaker 3>Because if they think that they.

0:56:51.080 --> 0:56:53.120
<v Speaker 2>Can do whatever they want to to you, then they

0:56:53.120 --> 0:56:55.239
<v Speaker 2>will do whatever they want to to you. So this

0:56:55.360 --> 0:56:57.839
<v Speaker 2>is what it is at this moment right now. There

0:56:57.880 --> 0:57:01.600
<v Speaker 2>are a lot of people who are feeling confused. They're

0:57:01.640 --> 0:57:04.000
<v Speaker 2>watching on the news, you see all these type of things.

0:57:04.400 --> 0:57:07.640
<v Speaker 2>I'm telling you, take a deep breath, Take a deep breath,

0:57:08.080 --> 0:57:10.800
<v Speaker 2>and say, the only thing that's gonna win is our unity.

0:57:11.120 --> 0:57:13.600
<v Speaker 2>When we show them that we're not breakable, when we

0:57:13.600 --> 0:57:15.560
<v Speaker 2>show them that we're not weak, when we show them

0:57:15.600 --> 0:57:20.160
<v Speaker 2>that we're not scared, then they have no choice for takaar.

0:57:20.520 --> 0:57:22.000
<v Speaker 2>You know, they say, if you look the devil in

0:57:22.000 --> 0:57:24.360
<v Speaker 2>its eye, he will flee, and it's time for us

0:57:24.360 --> 0:57:25.280
<v Speaker 2>to look the devil.

0:57:25.000 --> 0:57:25.440
<v Speaker 3>In his eyes.

0:57:25.600 --> 0:57:29.560
<v Speaker 4>Absolutely absolutely well, I think there's you know, I have

0:57:29.640 --> 0:57:31.680
<v Speaker 4>a whole bunch of more stuff here, but I think

0:57:31.720 --> 0:57:35.720
<v Speaker 4>that we have covered it all, you know, And I

0:57:36.600 --> 0:57:41.200
<v Speaker 4>would I would circle back to my point that I

0:57:41.240 --> 0:57:47.280
<v Speaker 4>am completely understanding and aware of how challenging and how

0:57:47.400 --> 0:57:51.400
<v Speaker 4>complex these moments are in these situations because they get

0:57:51.480 --> 0:57:52.400
<v Speaker 4>us wrapped.

0:57:52.120 --> 0:57:55.200
<v Speaker 1>Up in different ways. You know, you get you all.

0:57:55.800 --> 0:57:57.240
<v Speaker 1>But I know that.

0:57:58.640 --> 0:58:03.560
<v Speaker 4>A boycott is a boycott. I know that everybody's not

0:58:03.600 --> 0:58:08.960
<v Speaker 4>gonna do it. I know that the people who are involved,

0:58:09.000 --> 0:58:14.280
<v Speaker 4>these black businesses who can be substantially hurt, they love

0:58:14.320 --> 0:58:16.760
<v Speaker 4>black people, at least the ones I know they love

0:58:16.800 --> 0:58:17.440
<v Speaker 4>black people.

0:58:18.320 --> 0:58:19.640
<v Speaker 1>And I also know that.

0:58:21.520 --> 0:58:25.640
<v Speaker 4>We are not I personally in the position that I'm in,

0:58:26.760 --> 0:58:32.840
<v Speaker 4>I cannot sit by and not at least tell us

0:58:33.160 --> 0:58:38.600
<v Speaker 4>where we are and make sure that people understand what's happening. Yeah,

0:58:38.600 --> 0:58:41.360
<v Speaker 4>I know, you can't just take your product off the stand,

0:58:41.720 --> 0:58:46.320
<v Speaker 4>off the shelf, but there ought to be a morality.

0:58:45.760 --> 0:58:48.000
<v Speaker 1>Clause for you too, that's right.

0:58:48.320 --> 0:58:51.720
<v Speaker 4>They ought to be if you are my partner. Because

0:58:51.840 --> 0:58:55.480
<v Speaker 4>Target was supposed to be these people's partner. They never

0:58:55.600 --> 0:58:59.840
<v Speaker 4>said that Target. They never said that Target was the

0:59:00.080 --> 0:59:05.880
<v Speaker 4>employer of XYZ Black Brands or XYZ Women own brands.

0:59:06.280 --> 0:59:10.600
<v Speaker 4>They said they were partners, right. That's why one of

0:59:10.640 --> 0:59:13.400
<v Speaker 4>the things that we've been told that's a big risk

0:59:13.960 --> 0:59:18.960
<v Speaker 4>is that if you don't sell your product, you either

0:59:19.000 --> 0:59:21.520
<v Speaker 4>owe them money or you end up with all the

0:59:21.600 --> 0:59:25.200
<v Speaker 4>product and no money. Right, So, because that's what partnerships

0:59:25.200 --> 0:59:29.320
<v Speaker 4>look like. But and and by the way, people, some

0:59:29.440 --> 0:59:32.080
<v Speaker 4>of these same brand owners, I'm talking about all of them.

0:59:32.200 --> 0:59:34.800
<v Speaker 4>That's so please, let's not do the old Tamika said

0:59:35.200 --> 0:59:37.920
<v Speaker 4>this about Tabithaugh or this about so and so or

0:59:37.960 --> 0:59:39.480
<v Speaker 4>such and such, because that's not what I'm talking about

0:59:39.480 --> 0:59:44.160
<v Speaker 4>to about the whole pie. Right, If you black brand

0:59:44.320 --> 0:59:49.120
<v Speaker 4>or black woman was so much of a partner of targets,

0:59:49.760 --> 0:59:52.120
<v Speaker 4>why would they not pick up the phone and call

0:59:52.280 --> 0:59:54.440
<v Speaker 4>you to tell you that this is what was going

0:59:54.520 --> 0:59:55.000
<v Speaker 4>to happen.

0:59:55.640 --> 0:59:58.160
<v Speaker 1>So already there's a breach.

0:59:58.200 --> 1:00:01.720
<v Speaker 4>In terms of what that partner looks like, because they

1:00:01.840 --> 1:00:05.200
<v Speaker 4>should have been sitting with you, saying we're doing this

1:00:05.320 --> 1:00:07.720
<v Speaker 4>new thing, were.

1:00:07.080 --> 1:00:09.360
<v Speaker 1>Trying to figure out how we're gonna go about it.

1:00:09.400 --> 1:00:11.520
<v Speaker 4>We want to tell you that this is gonna impact

1:00:11.560 --> 1:00:13.240
<v Speaker 4>you because there are people that.

1:00:13.280 --> 1:00:15.320
<v Speaker 1>Since I'm doing what I'm doing, they not gonna work

1:00:15.360 --> 1:00:15.960
<v Speaker 1>with you no more.

1:00:16.200 --> 1:00:18.200
<v Speaker 4>How do we know that that's the case, because we've

1:00:18.240 --> 1:00:21.160
<v Speaker 4>discussed that in our board meetings all the time for

1:00:21.280 --> 1:00:23.520
<v Speaker 4>Until Freedom.

1:00:22.720 --> 1:00:25.080
<v Speaker 1>And other organizations that I'm a part of.

1:00:25.440 --> 1:00:29.240
<v Speaker 4>In fact, when I went to Savior's Day and was

1:00:29.640 --> 1:00:35.080
<v Speaker 4>called anti Semitic for being a supporter of the Nation

1:00:35.240 --> 1:00:39.360
<v Speaker 4>of Islam, there were people who stopped working with me,

1:00:39.880 --> 1:00:43.400
<v Speaker 4>People pulled their money, and there were people I was

1:00:43.480 --> 1:00:47.800
<v Speaker 4>on boards that I was asked to resign from because

1:00:48.120 --> 1:00:52.360
<v Speaker 4>the morality clause is that if you do something in

1:00:52.440 --> 1:00:56.960
<v Speaker 4>this partnership that we have that harms the brand of

1:00:57.040 --> 1:01:01.600
<v Speaker 4>another person, then how does that impact met and my organization,

1:01:01.800 --> 1:01:02.440
<v Speaker 4>my company.

1:01:02.520 --> 1:01:04.040
<v Speaker 1>This is what these people said to me.

1:01:04.640 --> 1:01:08.680
<v Speaker 4>So if Target is your partner, why did they not

1:01:08.920 --> 1:01:11.680
<v Speaker 4>even have the respect to pick up the phone and

1:01:11.760 --> 1:01:14.640
<v Speaker 4>have a meeting with people and say, hey, this is

1:01:14.680 --> 1:01:17.040
<v Speaker 4>what's going on so that you could get prepared for

1:01:17.120 --> 1:01:20.600
<v Speaker 4>what is to come. It didn't happen. It didn't happen.

1:01:21.800 --> 1:01:26.360
<v Speaker 4>So the partnership has been breached. Okay, not wanting diversity,

1:01:26.920 --> 1:01:30.400
<v Speaker 4>equity and inclusion should at least be something that lawyers

1:01:30.400 --> 1:01:33.880
<v Speaker 4>can look at to see if there's a morality clause

1:01:33.920 --> 1:01:37.760
<v Speaker 4>that has been broken on their behalf. All of these

1:01:37.800 --> 1:01:40.080
<v Speaker 4>things need to be done, and I'm sure it is

1:01:40.160 --> 1:01:43.240
<v Speaker 4>being done. But the point that I'm making here is

1:01:43.280 --> 1:01:47.440
<v Speaker 4>that the consumer who chooses to walk in the door

1:01:47.720 --> 1:01:49.720
<v Speaker 4>and just do a little this and little do a

1:01:49.760 --> 1:01:54.160
<v Speaker 4>little of that, that is still crossing the picket line.

1:01:54.440 --> 1:01:58.600
<v Speaker 4>It's crossing the picket line. Sorry to tell y'all. How

1:01:58.680 --> 1:02:01.440
<v Speaker 4>we figure it out from here from an e commerce

1:02:01.520 --> 1:02:03.880
<v Speaker 4>perspective or what we need to do.

1:02:04.240 --> 1:02:05.720
<v Speaker 1>We need to figure that out.

1:02:06.320 --> 1:02:09.640
<v Speaker 4>I'm not going to Target, but I understand that there

1:02:09.640 --> 1:02:13.600
<v Speaker 4>are some people who will say, well, this is my

1:02:13.720 --> 1:02:16.040
<v Speaker 4>product or these are people that I respect, and I'm

1:02:16.120 --> 1:02:19.560
<v Speaker 4>going to do that. In the meanwhile, however, we as

1:02:19.640 --> 1:02:22.960
<v Speaker 4>leaders need to come together to figure out what our

1:02:23.000 --> 1:02:28.640
<v Speaker 4>people can do collectively, collectively to address what we know

1:02:29.120 --> 1:02:33.400
<v Speaker 4>is an onslaught that if other people in America have

1:02:33.520 --> 1:02:37.400
<v Speaker 4>a cold, even the flu, we as black people are

1:02:37.440 --> 1:02:41.680
<v Speaker 4>going to experience a pandemic. So we better be aware

1:02:42.040 --> 1:02:43.680
<v Speaker 4>that what they're doing over here to.

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<v Speaker 1>Homie, they gonna do to you.

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<v Speaker 3>One hundred times.

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<v Speaker 1>So there's that.

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<v Speaker 2>On that note, we'll end this show without mine. Don't

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<v Speaker 2>get it, and I had a lot of stuff to

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<v Speaker 2>say about it. I don't get it. But I think

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<v Speaker 2>this boycott, in this situation where Target was extremely important

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<v Speaker 2>for us to speak about, well, please let us know

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<v Speaker 2>how you feel. We want to hear all sides, especially

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<v Speaker 2>from our people who are going to be impacted by

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<v Speaker 2>what's going on in Target.

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<v Speaker 3>Just let us know.

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<v Speaker 2>Once again, I'm not gonna always be right, Tamika d

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<v Speaker 2>marriages and I can always be wrong, but we will

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<v Speaker 2>both always and I mean always be authentic.

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<v Speaker 1>Pace that's how we own it.