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Speaker 1: I'm Tamika D. Mallory and it Shit Boy my Son

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Speaker 1: in general, we are your host of TMI.

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Speaker 2: Tamika and my Son's Information, Truth, Motivation and Inspiration.

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Speaker 1: New Energy.

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Speaker 3: What's up, Tamika D. Mallory. How you doing today?

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Speaker 1: I'm doing good, my SONA now.

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Speaker 3: You I am doing better.

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Speaker 2: It has been a rough week, but now I'm coming

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Speaker 2: to terms with the reality of what we're dealing with.

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Speaker 2: You know, I got my mojo and I'm ready to go.

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Speaker 1: You know, yeah, me too. I'm good.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 4: I feel like I am putting into practice things that

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Speaker 4: I've learned since that horrific burnout.

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Speaker 1: That landed me in rehab.

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Speaker 4: Right, and you know, the trauma and everything that I experienced.

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Speaker 4: I talk about what I learned and how I came

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Speaker 4: out of it. But often times, as time goes on

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Speaker 4: and you have different experiences and you live in life,

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Speaker 4: we often forget about things. It's like when you drink

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Speaker 4: too much and then you're like, God, I promise you,

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Speaker 4: if you would just help me get over this, I

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Speaker 4: promise I won't drink as let next. Oh no, that's it,

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Speaker 4: this is my last time. And then of course five

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Speaker 4: times later, maybe even the next day people go back

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Speaker 4: to some of their old ways that you know, we revert,

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Speaker 4: and so I've had to be mindful of that in

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Speaker 4: this moment, and I write about it in my book,

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Speaker 4: my new book.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I live to tell the story.

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Speaker 4: I live to tell the story, and that's the real thing.

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Speaker 4: I live to tell the story. And the story goes

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Speaker 4: and I say that I'm going to fight for freedom

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Speaker 4: until I die, but this time freedom includes me, right.

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Speaker 4: And so with that being said, I cannot allow my

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Speaker 4: self to go back to where I was in twenty

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Speaker 4: nineteen to ninety eight pounds, even though I wish I

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Speaker 4: could get to ninety eight pounds now shoot on my own.

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Speaker 1: Without being stressed out.

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Speaker 4: But that's a whole different day's topic, not ninety eight pounds.

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Speaker 1: But you get my point.

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Speaker 3: I guess, let me get my point.

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Speaker 4: So I can't allow that to happen. So I'm not

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Speaker 4: going to allow myself to drown.

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Speaker 1: I feel it.

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Speaker 4: I know where we are, and I think what is

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Speaker 4: very frustrating is watching people wake up knowing that like

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Speaker 4: we said this, we said all of this and had

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Speaker 4: been saying it before an election. Yeah, that's the other thing.

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Speaker 4: I just want to make sure that. That's clear. We've

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Speaker 2: Definitely way before election. Well, listen, how do people get

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Speaker 2: this book? When does it drop? Like this is our show?

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Speaker 1: People already know.

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Speaker 4: They already know because I'll be telling them every other day.

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Speaker 4: It's February eleven. Yes, first event is February sixth in Louisville, Kentucky.

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Speaker 4: It is extremely humbling and it's such a proud moment

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Speaker 4: for me to go to Louisville and have my friends

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Speaker 4: Sadiqa Reynolds and attorney Leanita Baker to be the host

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Speaker 4: of my first public event. It's actually before my book

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Speaker 4: and it means so much because you know what we

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Speaker 4: went through in Louisville. Yeah, you know that, and well,

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Speaker 4: and Louisville was right after I came out of rehab, right,

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Speaker 4: Came out of rehab, right, because twenty nineteen, and then

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Speaker 4: we went there in twenty twenty. I was still a mess.

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Speaker 4: Going on, And when Ben Crump called me, all of

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Speaker 4: I'm just like, wow, you know, this book has.

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Speaker 4: This is the uh, the this is my vision.

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Speaker 3: It's the duality, all right.

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Speaker 2: It's the duality from you know, the braids to the

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Speaker 4: So anyway, is this book was a lot to get out.

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Speaker 4: I always say that it's like I'm at the right now.

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Speaker 4: I'm in the delivery process. Like I already have my

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Speaker 4: terrible things, the what do you have with morning sickness?

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Speaker 4: You nauseous, can't eat, can't rest, can't whatever. Most of

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Speaker 4: those things have subsided at this point from this book,

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Speaker 4: Janie is looking like yes. Janice, who is our director

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Speaker 4: But it's pretty much I'm in the sailing part. We

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Speaker 4: a lot to get this done. The stories that I'm

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Speaker 3: Know, just telling you tell your business.

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Speaker 4: Or something that day and just went the little bit.

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Speaker 4: So but I'm glad that it's out here. I know

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Speaker 2: Well, I look forward to reading it today, you know,

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Speaker 2: because I got my little copy and I'm gonna read it.

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Speaker 2: But I'm proud of you. And please make sure that

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Speaker 2: you'll go out pre order. Make sure that you at

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Speaker 2: every event on the tour, show out, show up, make

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Speaker 2: sure that you support this woman because the way she

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Speaker 2: fights for black people is undeniable.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Well, and also make sure that you get my son's

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Speaker 3: Called it's called Echoes in the Streets.

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Speaker 1: Echoes in the Street, and it's.

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Speaker 2: About gun violence, the stories about gun violence within the

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Speaker 2: Heed Yes.

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Speaker 1: Right cool.

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Speaker 4: So, so you know wherever, first of all, wherever you

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Speaker 4: buy books, Black bookstores very important, Barnes and Nobles. Also,

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Speaker 4: god Atria, and the Simon and Schuster family.

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Speaker 1: But in the publishing world, authors need pre sales.

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Speaker 4: That's very helpful in terms of how their books get

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Speaker 4: So you can go to Tamika D. Mallory dot com.

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Speaker 4: That's Tamika D. Mallory dot com and you can find

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Speaker 4: out all the things how to purchase the book.

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Speaker 1: Where the tour is going.

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Speaker 4: The sixth we're in Louisville, Kentucky.

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Speaker 4: At Jamal Bryant's Church, New Birth Baptist Church in Atlanta, Georgia.

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Speaker 4: The eleventh, I got something going on, but I ain't

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Speaker 2: So I definitely I know it's gonna be a good book,

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Speaker 2: get the book. Yes, and the news for me. Yesterday

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Speaker 4: beginning in the end as a bookmark to Meeka Mallory

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Speaker 4: I don't know when or if I will ever return.

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Speaker 4: Our history is that when we leave a brand, we

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Speaker 4: But then even if I even if I would have said, well,

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Speaker 4: everybody do their thing. That's my personal thing. Then Kyrie

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Speaker 4: So you cut Kyrie, I cut you. That's it, simple,

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Speaker 3: They just hit me a couple of Piers Niggas new.

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Speaker 4: So there's a there's a million things we can do,

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Speaker 1: Wiffle House ain't been back. The waffle house.

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Speaker 2: She was on my page ten somebody up this morning

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Speaker 4: Shakisha Clemings was attacked, brutally attacked and dro in a

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Speaker 1: And they and and and they.

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Speaker 4: What they did to her was something that it wasn't acceptable.

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Speaker 3: And then she took her to trial.

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Speaker 4: Right, and then tried to exactly the police took her

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Speaker 4: Muslims said, we're not going to Starbucks because of their

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Speaker 4: and what is happening. Unfortunately, whether you want to accept

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Speaker 4: That's just where we are right So Starbucks, I be

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Speaker 1: Some airport you go in. All they have is a

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Speaker 4: Count and you know what I do, Get me some

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Speaker 4: water from a store and keep it moving.

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Speaker 1: I don't go in Starbucks. I'm saying all of this

444
00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:59,679
Speaker 1: to say to you all that I know that I'm different.

445
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Speaker 4: I know I was cut from a certain cloth that

446
00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:08,840
Speaker 4: is very, very different from most people. I know that

447
00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:13,879
Speaker 4: when a school calls me up, or a corporation calls

448
00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:16,359
Speaker 4: me up, and they get in touch with Toya and

449
00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:22,040
Speaker 4: they say they want me to speak at a conference,

450
00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:25,320
Speaker 4: or they want me to participate in some type of program.

451
00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:27,840
Speaker 4: But they tell me that I need to scrub my

452
00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:32,439
Speaker 4: Instagram page or I need to not say these things,

453
00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:36,760
Speaker 4: or don't do this thing, or don't wear this, And

454
00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:39,879
Speaker 4: I'd say I can't do those things, and they telling

455
00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:43,320
Speaker 4: me that it's twenty five thousand dollars or it's fifty

456
00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:47,840
Speaker 4: thousand for two sessions, or it's whatever. I have turned

457
00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:52,000
Speaker 4: it down many times. I have had people call me

458
00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:55,480
Speaker 4: on the phone and say to me, Tomka, your book

459
00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:58,240
Speaker 4: is about to come out, or this is about to happen,

460
00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:02,680
Speaker 4: or y'all just you know, the rebranding of your show.

461
00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:05,960
Speaker 4: You got all these things going on. Let's just leave

462
00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:13,840
Speaker 4: that alone for now. And strategically they might be right. Strategically,

463
00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:17,840
Speaker 4: what they're saying is probably it's probably right that if

464
00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:21,119
Speaker 4: I just go dark, stay under the radar, and just

465
00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:23,359
Speaker 4: you know you because there's different ways to work. You

466
00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:27,040
Speaker 4: don't always have to be in the front, right, You

467
00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:28,280
Speaker 4: can do things differently.

468
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Speaker 1: You know.

469
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Speaker 4: I've had people say that to me, Hey, just you

470
00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:35,160
Speaker 4: know for now, but that's not who I am. So

471
00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:40,720
Speaker 4: I have to take that into consideration whenever I'm out

472
00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:44,280
Speaker 4: here speaking to other people that we are not all

473
00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:47,679
Speaker 4: at the same place, we're not all on the same level,

474
00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:51,560
Speaker 4: and we're not all committed in the same way. Our sister,

475
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Speaker 4: Leslie Redman says something so true yesterday. Leslie Redmand, who

476
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Speaker 4: was the president of the Minneapolis chapter of the NAACP

477
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Speaker 4: while we were there fighting for George Floyd, she said

478
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Speaker 4: something yesterday.

479
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Speaker 1: It is so true.

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Speaker 4: Most people don't want to be free. Most Black people

481
00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:14,920
Speaker 4: don't want to be free. They want to be rich,

482
00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:21,560
Speaker 4: That's what and that's the fact. And sometimes being rich

483
00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:27,400
Speaker 4: looks like freedom. But if we know anything about that,

484
00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:34,119
Speaker 4: jay Z said, still nigga, OJ and all everybody. You

485
00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:39,679
Speaker 4: can have lots of money and still be treated like

486
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Speaker 4: a nigga. And so not to say we should not

487
00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:50,720
Speaker 4: acquire wealth, because we should, but wealth and freedom are

488
00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:52,320
Speaker 4: not the same thing.

489
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Speaker 2: It should it should be a balance, right, and it

490
00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:58,760
Speaker 2: should be real conversations like you said, you know, when

491
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Speaker 2: we when I looked at this hotel, good situation, when

492
00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:05,320
Speaker 2: I'm just looking at the last one hundred executive orders, right.

493
00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:08,479
Speaker 1: And hundred Yeah, there's been a hundred.

494
00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:12,720
Speaker 2: Executive orders signed in in the last week. And when

495
00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:16,399
Speaker 2: I'm looking at how these things actually roll back civil

496
00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:20,160
Speaker 2: rights that have been established for the last fifty sixty years,

497
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Speaker 2: you know, And you really just sit there and think

498
00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:25,760
Speaker 2: about this, And I say to myself, what are we

499
00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:27,960
Speaker 2: willing to say? And I've heard all these people you

500
00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:31,439
Speaker 2: know there are you know, we have we have black

501
00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:34,240
Speaker 2: scholars and black leaders that say that's good. We don't

502
00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:36,720
Speaker 2: need d you know, we need to separate anyway, We

503
00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:37,600
Speaker 2: need to do our own.

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Speaker 1: I don't know too many scholars they're saying, well.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know, Okay, well these are this

506
00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:47,679
Speaker 2: is what they say. Doctor Claude Anderson has said that

507
00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:50,320
Speaker 2: we need to separate, and we need and that's what's

508
00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:52,359
Speaker 2: going to take for us to do is to build

509
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Speaker 2: our own.

510
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Speaker 3: And I do not disagree with those things. Right. I

511
00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:57,199
Speaker 3: do believe that we need to separate.

512
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Speaker 2: I do believe that we need to build our own,

513
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Speaker 2: but I do not believe that we should build it

514
00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:05,240
Speaker 2: while we are experienced injustice. I don't believe that we

515
00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:08,880
Speaker 2: should make it okay for them to do negative things

516
00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:11,520
Speaker 2: to us. I don't believe we should be okay since

517
00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:13,560
Speaker 2: we need to separate. You don't have to give us

518
00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:16,840
Speaker 2: what you owe us, right, we don't deserve the amount

519
00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:20,200
Speaker 2: of reparations and things that we've earned in America. I

520
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:22,160
Speaker 2: don't I believe we should be doing both ads. It's

521
00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:25,840
Speaker 2: like I'm in jail and I'm filing for my pill right,

522
00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:27,800
Speaker 2: but at the same time trying to figure out if

523
00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:29,520
Speaker 2: we got to break out and I got life inside

524
00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:30,960
Speaker 2: here and I gotta break I'm gonna do both of

525
00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:32,920
Speaker 2: them at the same time. It's not gonna not fire.

526
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Speaker 2: And then if I'm locked up for life for a

527
00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:40,160
Speaker 2: crime I didn't commit. So this is what I'm trying

528
00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:42,760
Speaker 2: to tell you. I want you to understand we're inside

529
00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:46,960
Speaker 2: of This is jail for black people. We living in America.

530
00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:51,760
Speaker 2: We were sentenced to life in America, right, and we're

531
00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:54,360
Speaker 2: trying to figure out how do we get our freedom back?

532
00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:57,040
Speaker 2: Because that's what it is. It's a lifetime bid in America.

533
00:28:57,160 --> 00:28:58,640
Speaker 2: So how do we get our freedom back?

534
00:28:58,960 --> 00:28:59,160
Speaker 3: Now?

535
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Speaker 2: As I'm trying to from my freedom, I know that

536
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:04,960
Speaker 2: America still owes me. So sure, I want reparations, I

537
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:08,080
Speaker 2: want repair, I want You know what has been owed

538
00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:11,160
Speaker 2: to our ancestors who built America on his back, It

539
00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:14,120
Speaker 2: was never compensated for it. You know, we have built

540
00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:17,479
Speaker 2: our own economies time and time through our history, and

541
00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:20,720
Speaker 2: they have destroyed it. They've burned it down, they've disenfranchised

542
00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:23,920
Speaker 2: us over hundreds and hundreds of times.

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Speaker 3: This is documented.

544
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Speaker 2: So I don't I do not, you know, subscribe to

545
00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:31,800
Speaker 2: the fact that we what we actioning for is a handout.

546
00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:34,320
Speaker 2: We're not asking for handout. We're asking for we old.

547
00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:37,680
Speaker 2: But in the meantime, we should be building what you know,

548
00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:40,480
Speaker 2: our own economy should we should be building.

549
00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:41,280
Speaker 3: Our own structure.

550
00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:43,480
Speaker 2: We should try to separate and build out because everyone

551
00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:46,160
Speaker 2: else has done that. But what I say when people

552
00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:49,000
Speaker 2: say that to me is what are you willing to

553
00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:50,000
Speaker 2: sacrifice for it?

554
00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:50,280
Speaker 3: Right?

555
00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:52,560
Speaker 2: Because the same people that are saying, yo, we don't

556
00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:55,040
Speaker 2: want nothing from the white man and we don't want

557
00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:57,520
Speaker 2: this with the same people that's saying, well, we got

558
00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:00,320
Speaker 2: a stimulus check, right, and they wanted to make it

559
00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:02,760
Speaker 2: seem like that was okay. But that's not a hand though, right,

560
00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:05,400
Speaker 2: the same people that say they aren't willing to boycott,

561
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Speaker 2: they aren't willing to stop spending their money with the

562
00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:10,680
Speaker 2: people that's suppressing us. They don't want to They sit

563
00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:12,360
Speaker 2: there and say, yeah, we don't need none of this,

564
00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:14,960
Speaker 2: but you're not willing to make the sacrifices.

565
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Speaker 4: Well, it just depends, okay, because I just want to

566
00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:20,720
Speaker 4: make sure we put these things in little buckets. Because

567
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Speaker 4: first of all, when you said, they say, doctor Claude

568
00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:31,640
Speaker 4: Anderson and others have said that we need to separate, right,

569
00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:35,920
Speaker 4: And I don't know, Like I know that doctor Claude

570
00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:40,080
Speaker 4: Anderson teaches a lot about independence and all of that,

571
00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:43,360
Speaker 4: but I would love for somebody to just show me

572
00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:48,440
Speaker 4: where doctor Anderson has said that black people do not

573
00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:54,000
Speaker 4: deserve a seat at corporate tables, a seat in institutions,

574
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Speaker 4: that we should not have ourselves intertwined in systems where

575
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:03,120
Speaker 4: we are able to monitor what is happening with the

576
00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:06,040
Speaker 4: millions of black people who are coming through the stores,

577
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:09,360
Speaker 4: the banks, the colleges.

578
00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:09,440
Speaker 1: The whatever.

579
00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:13,320
Speaker 4: I do believe building our own is important and I

580
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:15,760
Speaker 4: want to see us continue to do that because I

581
00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:17,680
Speaker 4: believe that there are a lot of people who are

582
00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:24,560
Speaker 4: in They're building sustainable communities, They're building you know, black banks.

583
00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:28,000
Speaker 4: You got Greenwood, which is Killer MIC's bank. You have

584
00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:30,880
Speaker 4: people that are doing all of these things, and so

585
00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:33,480
Speaker 4: we don't want to conflate them because I know that's

586
00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:33,880
Speaker 4: a group.

587
00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:35,240
Speaker 1: Then of course you have.

588
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:39,120
Speaker 4: The stimulus check, it was more money in my pocket.

589
00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:39,720
Speaker 1: People.

590
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Speaker 4: But those people in these people are not the same people.

591
00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:45,239
Speaker 4: And then you have the people who are in the

592
00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:48,400
Speaker 4: middle who are like, the hell with everything, we don't

593
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:49,760
Speaker 4: need them for anything.

594
00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:51,480
Speaker 1: Here's my thing.

595
00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:55,440
Speaker 4: Even with that, Okay, I've been asking people all weekend.

596
00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:57,800
Speaker 1: They said, well, we.

597
00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:00,880
Speaker 4: Don't need you know, we don't need anything from the

598
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:04,200
Speaker 4: white man. And by the way, I think anybody who's

599
00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:07,360
Speaker 4: telling you that this moment, the executive orders and the

600
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:11,000
Speaker 4: things that's happening in this nation are not going to

601
00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:14,440
Speaker 4: impact you. Any black person that says that to you,

602
00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:16,600
Speaker 4: that it doesn't have to impact you, or that it

603
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:20,880
Speaker 4: doesn't impact you at least, they are ignorant, just and

604
00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:23,280
Speaker 4: not ignorant in a negative way, but they don't know.

605
00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:27,520
Speaker 4: At best, they are dangerous when they tell you that,

606
00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:31,080
Speaker 4: because we are all living in a society that impacts

607
00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:35,240
Speaker 4: every single one of us. Everything that happens, it impacts

608
00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:38,240
Speaker 4: all of us, whether or not, whether or not we

609
00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:41,920
Speaker 4: realize it. Even when we talk about violence in our communities,

610
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:45,640
Speaker 4: we talk about you know, happiness in our communities, all

611
00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:50,400
Speaker 4: of that is in fact influenced by what is happening

612
00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:53,720
Speaker 4: in the atmosphere. So when you say that things don't

613
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:57,840
Speaker 4: impact people, it's a very dangerous statement to make because

614
00:32:57,880 --> 00:32:58,280
Speaker 4: it does.

615
00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:03,040
Speaker 1: All policy are local, all politics.

616
00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:04,640
Speaker 3: Are local, and they affect everyone, and.

617
00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:08,080
Speaker 1: They impact all of us.

618
00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:11,960
Speaker 4: If you drive, you got to have gas, Okay, if

619
00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:14,520
Speaker 4: the gas price is high, that's.

620
00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:15,800
Speaker 1: Going to impact you.

621
00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:18,440
Speaker 4: You want to put your children in schools, and all

622
00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:22,160
Speaker 4: the things that you are doing every single day. Even

623
00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:25,680
Speaker 4: if you only do a little bit and you're more

624
00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:30,440
Speaker 4: self contained, you still will if you breathe the air

625
00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:34,600
Speaker 4: that's outside, if you don't have your own air, it

626
00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:38,880
Speaker 4: is impacted by whatever chemicals are being put into the

627
00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:41,200
Speaker 4: atmosphere or all of that.

628
00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:42,760
Speaker 1: So I don't want to say that.

629
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Speaker 4: I don't want people to tell you that policies don't

630
00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:48,640
Speaker 4: impact all of us. But we also have to keep

631
00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:54,160
Speaker 4: in mind that as we move about building our own

632
00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:58,600
Speaker 4: So you say, we don't need targets and walmarts in

633
00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:03,200
Speaker 4: all of these places, right, we don't need that. The

634
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:08,120
Speaker 4: average person in our community is not going to build

635
00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:08,640
Speaker 4: our own.

636
00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:11,080
Speaker 1: There's only gonna be a few.

637
00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:13,840
Speaker 4: People who do it, and then people who funnel into

638
00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:16,840
Speaker 4: it and help it to thrive. Right, That's how it works.

639
00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:20,120
Speaker 4: So if you live in a food desert and you

640
00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:22,840
Speaker 4: don't really have transportation.

641
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:26,880
Speaker 1: While we're on a five to ten year.

642
00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:31,160
Speaker 4: Process to building our own, which we should focus on

643
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:34,600
Speaker 4: rather than focusing so much on being on the internet

644
00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:37,719
Speaker 4: telling everybody else, all of us what we're doing right, wrong.

645
00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:38,360
Speaker 1: This, that, and the third.

646
00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:43,080
Speaker 4: But if you building something five ten years, then how

647
00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:48,279
Speaker 4: is Jojo going to eat? Where is he going to

648
00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:51,200
Speaker 4: work right now?

649
00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:55,279
Speaker 2: And that's a That's another conversation that I'm having when

650
00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:58,680
Speaker 2: we have this conversation about boycotts and we talk about Target.

651
00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:01,799
Speaker 2: You know, there's been this long, large conversation about there

652
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:05,920
Speaker 2: are black people who vendors, who have vendors who have

653
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:10,319
Speaker 2: contracts with Target, and if we boycott Target, then it's

654
00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:13,000
Speaker 2: gonna hurt them and we shouldn't do that. And I

655
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:16,880
Speaker 2: say to myself, there are hundreds and thousands of people

656
00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:20,080
Speaker 2: who are going to be affected because of these policies

657
00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:22,719
Speaker 2: that Target, and they're not going to have jobs, They're

658
00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:25,080
Speaker 2: not gonna have a way to survive this. They don't have,

659
00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:27,920
Speaker 2: you know, the resources to be able to produce and

660
00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:29,080
Speaker 2: be entrepreneurs.

661
00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:30,640
Speaker 3: Their families are going to suffer.

662
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Speaker 2: There are people who are in d oppositions in major

663
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Speaker 2: you know stores and Target and all that they're gonna

664
00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:38,600
Speaker 2: their families are going to be completely wiped out. Right,

665
00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:42,560
Speaker 2: These are this is a right reality. They are people

666
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:49,560
Speaker 2: who are in positions. I'm just saying everywhere. So I'm

667
00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:52,080
Speaker 2: saying Target because when we talk about were Target and Target,

668
00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:55,640
Speaker 2: there are they were d I departments in Target that

669
00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:58,160
Speaker 2: these workers were working and that no longer existed.

670
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Speaker 3: So I don't know they also whole departments that have

671
00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:03,040
Speaker 3: been But I don't.

672
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Speaker 1: Know if Target has fired a bunch of people, Well.

673
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Speaker 2: If you scaling, if you deciding that you no longer

674
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Speaker 2: are invested in d I, then what is the department?

675
00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:12,520
Speaker 3: Where's the department gonna be at? Well?

676
00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:14,960
Speaker 4: Because I mean I don't know, I mean we we

677
00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:18,320
Speaker 4: we shouldn't. I don't know that they had a specific

678
00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:21,000
Speaker 4: department where people are going to be let go. They

679
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:24,640
Speaker 4: may have reassigned people, giving them new titles or whatever.

680
00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:27,120
Speaker 4: I don't know if that has happened, but I can

681
00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:32,120
Speaker 4: tell you that in government offices, right, that is definitely happening.

682
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:37,439
Speaker 4: In educational institutions, that is happening. So I can't say

683
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Speaker 4: in Target.

684
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Speaker 2: Just based off the policy, the culture, the culture of

685
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:45,520
Speaker 2: dismissal exactly.

686
00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:48,600
Speaker 3: It's going to disenfranchise thousands of black.

687
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Speaker 1: People more maybe and probably million.

688
00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:51,440
Speaker 3: Probably millions.

689
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:53,960
Speaker 2: So what I'm trying to say is, are we saying

690
00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:56,640
Speaker 2: that the one or two hundred people who are important

691
00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:59,120
Speaker 2: that we're not saying they don't have value but their

692
00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:03,160
Speaker 2: finances to proceed the cause of the many. Are we

693
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Speaker 2: saying that we're willing to sacrifice the millions of people's

694
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:10,799
Speaker 2: lobbihoods and just the law and establishing something that.

695
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:14,880
Speaker 1: Is all the respect of the respect.

696
00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:17,640
Speaker 2: Of the mass is in the lord, just the impact

697
00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:19,640
Speaker 2: that it's going to have, right, because once, if you

698
00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:21,720
Speaker 2: don't stand for something, then you're gonna fall for anything.

699
00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:23,200
Speaker 2: And if they can say, okay, you know what, we're

700
00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:25,960
Speaker 2: just gonna take that from y'all, and that's it, and

701
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:29,279
Speaker 2: there's no response, there's nothing for us to sacrifice.

702
00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:29,560
Speaker 3: Nothing.

703
00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:32,520
Speaker 2: There's not enough of us that's willing to sacrifice so

704
00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:36,800
Speaker 2: that two hundred people can continue to thrive, or maybe

705
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:38,680
Speaker 2: three hundred, but I know it's in the hundreds.

706
00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:41,600
Speaker 4: It ain't in the thousands they're saying.

707
00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:45,759
Speaker 2: So they saying that Target has contracts with thousands of

708
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Speaker 2: black people.

709
00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:48,439
Speaker 1: It's not just black people.

710
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Speaker 4: Because diverse, I'm not saying I don't ever want to

711
00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:55,080
Speaker 4: use the word the turn DEI I want to say

712
00:37:55,120 --> 00:38:01,720
Speaker 4: it completely diversity, equity, and inclusion, because when you say

713
00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:07,160
Speaker 4: those words, it makes it clear what somebody is saying

714
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:15,920
Speaker 4: that they're they're model no longer fits diversity, equity and inclusion.

715
00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:20,160
Speaker 4: Equity is what y'all on the internet, all the Internet

716
00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:25,200
Speaker 4: negroes that know everything, that talk everything about why this

717
00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:27,239
Speaker 4: one and that one is weak, and this one ain't

718
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:29,239
Speaker 4: no good and this one don't know know y'all are

719
00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:34,480
Speaker 4: talking about equity, building, equity, having more than enough for

720
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Speaker 4: us to survive. Right, So these companies are saying diversity,

721
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Speaker 4: equity and inclusion.

722
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Speaker 1: So to your point, but I'm tak you a thousand

723
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Speaker 1: and might be a thousand, might be fifteen hundred.

724
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Speaker 3: Okay, I don't, but it's still not.

725
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:52,479
Speaker 2: Maybe it's a thousand, but based on what I've been hearing,

726
00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:55,160
Speaker 2: it's been hundreds. So a few hundreds of people. So

727
00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:57,960
Speaker 2: what I'm trying to say is, I think I'm willing

728
00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:01,120
Speaker 2: to sacrifice. I've sacrificed all time. But like you said,

729
00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:03,680
Speaker 2: I know that I'm built different. I know that there's

730
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:07,680
Speaker 2: a level of revolutionary in me that most people don't have.

731
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:10,800
Speaker 2: That's not like I was willing somebody did so uner Kyrie,

732
00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:13,840
Speaker 2: who's somebody I had never met prior to that, but

733
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Speaker 2: just that I identify with him in his struggle.

734
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Speaker 3: I said that these hundreds of pairs sneakers.

735
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:21,960
Speaker 2: That I have, I no longer need them, and I'm

736
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Speaker 2: willing to throw them away because that's how strong I

737
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:27,680
Speaker 2: am in my conviction about saying fuck you, because that's

738
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Speaker 2: how I feel. Everybody is not going to do not

739
00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:32,920
Speaker 2: understand that. But if we're not willing to, at the

740
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:35,759
Speaker 2: drop of a dom say we're willing to stand on

741
00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:39,840
Speaker 2: principle and lose whatever it takes to establish a level

742
00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:43,440
Speaker 2: of respect amongst our culture, then we're going to find

743
00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:46,120
Speaker 2: ourselves back at the same position. So a lot of

744
00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:48,319
Speaker 2: people say, well, you know, we got to figure out

745
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:49,600
Speaker 2: how do we go about a boy.

746
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:50,520
Speaker 3: We gotta do that.

747
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Speaker 2: And I'm all for strategy, but I understand that the

748
00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:58,719
Speaker 2: longer we take to strategize, right, the longer we take

749
00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:04,000
Speaker 2: the longer, the the more ground we lose, the more.

750
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Speaker 3: Energy we lose.

751
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:08,200
Speaker 2: Right now, people are fired up, They're looking and saying,

752
00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:10,719
Speaker 2: damn this is this is happening in real time. So

753
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Speaker 2: if what our leadership has to say in our leadership,

754
00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:17,759
Speaker 2: we have to say, listen, we gotta understand who's with

755
00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:20,560
Speaker 2: us and who's not with us, because you sometimes you

756
00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:23,120
Speaker 2: lose time trying to bring somebody to your cause that

757
00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:24,440
Speaker 2: ain't gonna come with you anyway.

758
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Speaker 4: Well, I mean, I have multiple feelings about that. I

759
00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:33,200
Speaker 4: think that yes, we do have to move with the time.

760
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Speaker 4: When you hear a cry from the community, or if

761
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Speaker 4: you hear just to give a better example, if you

762
00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:45,200
Speaker 4: hear a cry from a baby, you want to go

763
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Speaker 4: at least and look and address whatever it is.

764
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Speaker 1: But if you know that the.

765
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Speaker 4: Baby is crying out in the moment because they're hungry

766
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Speaker 4: and the food is not prepared, you have to go

767
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Speaker 4: let the baby cry for a little while while you.

768
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Speaker 1: Prep pair a meal that is going to nourish.

769
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Speaker 2: The problem is the baby won't cry for too long

770
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Speaker 2: in these situations what we deal with in our communities,

771
00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:11,520
Speaker 2: people have outrage for one week until weeks.

772
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Speaker 1: But that's what.

773
00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:14,240
Speaker 3: Happened is the news cycle changes.

774
00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:17,320
Speaker 2: Somebody talks about that this happened mc carty b and

775
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:19,759
Speaker 2: this and that people's is on that this week.

776
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:24,520
Speaker 4: But the thing about this time, Mice, I want to

777
00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:28,520
Speaker 4: say to you that those people are gonna drop off anyway.

778
00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:32,719
Speaker 4: So that means that the people you're talking about are

779
00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:35,560
Speaker 4: people who we would never be able to sustain anything

780
00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:40,160
Speaker 4: with because they're not serious about or committed to it anyway. Right,

781
00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:45,640
Speaker 4: the purpose of planning and strategizing is that, especially in

782
00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:50,400
Speaker 4: this particular time period, they are not gonna stop doing

783
00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:51,680
Speaker 4: the things that they're doing.

784
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:53,080
Speaker 1: It's gonna get worse.

785
00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:57,600
Speaker 4: So there will be a need for a response that

786
00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:01,239
Speaker 4: is not just about target, but a response that is

787
00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:04,200
Speaker 4: about all this shit that's happening, and how do we

788
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:08,200
Speaker 4: use our economic power to be our voices in the

789
00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:12,799
Speaker 4: midst of a fascist government that is attempting to take

790
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:16,040
Speaker 4: away our rights and to make us second class citizens.

791
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Speaker 1: That's what we have to be thinking about.

792
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:21,680
Speaker 4: And so yes, target is now, and I and one

793
00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:24,080
Speaker 4: of those people just like you, they ain't never got

794
00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:26,120
Speaker 4: to call me since they don't want diversity.

795
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:28,920
Speaker 1: Damn it, I'm diverse. They don't want equity.

796
00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:34,080
Speaker 4: I believe in equity, and they don't want inclusion, no problem,

797
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:38,040
Speaker 4: I don't. You don't need well, I mean, but even

798
00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:42,600
Speaker 4: talk about but even when we talk whichever one is

799
00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:46,680
Speaker 4: your thing. Whichever one is your thing, the diversity, the equity,

800
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:49,960
Speaker 4: or the inclusion, whichever one is your thing. Because again,

801
00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:55,640
Speaker 4: we are not asking white people to give us money, right,

802
00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:59,640
Speaker 4: We're not saying inclusion means we want white people to

803
00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:03,640
Speaker 4: give us money. We're saying, I made a product. I

804
00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:08,360
Speaker 4: made Jaden made this good water. This is a good product.

805
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:09,680
Speaker 1: This is not a.

806
00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:14,839
Speaker 4: Product that needs pity, it needs whatever. And guess what

807
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:20,480
Speaker 4: black people shop at Target. So we're saying we want

808
00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:23,400
Speaker 4: to be in the shelf, on the shelf, in the

809
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:27,279
Speaker 4: place where our people are walking past it. That's what inclusion,

810
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:30,600
Speaker 4: men means. It means that you can't have black people

811
00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:33,560
Speaker 4: walking up and down these aisles and the only thing

812
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:36,440
Speaker 4: they can find on the shelves are your things that

813
00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:40,560
Speaker 4: you'll profit off of. Inclusion means my black product needs

814
00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:43,279
Speaker 4: to be sitting right next to the poland spring, the

815
00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:47,279
Speaker 4: smart water, and whomever else, because we also deserve to

816
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:50,560
Speaker 4: be on these shelves, since our people make up part

817
00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:56,000
Speaker 4: of the economy that keeps you going. Now, here's what

818
00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:58,800
Speaker 4: I want to say to get to your point about

819
00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:04,440
Speaker 4: how do I feel hearing black women, especially say I

820
00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:08,960
Speaker 4: put everything that I have on the line to get

821
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:13,000
Speaker 4: my product on these shelves to be included. And going

822
00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:18,440
Speaker 4: back to the Kyrie Urban example, while Kyrie has incredible sneakers,

823
00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:21,440
Speaker 4: we already saw them. You have a pair of two

824
00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:24,759
Speaker 4: two pairs or whatever. I don't got nothing. I don't

825
00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:26,400
Speaker 4: know why I didn't ask for myself. Oh because of

826
00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:29,600
Speaker 4: my size, that's what it was. But anyway, he has

827
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:31,600
Speaker 4: a line that's doing well.

828
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Speaker 1: When we were in whatever.

829
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Speaker 4: Country in South Africa, people were like buying them, people

830
00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:39,359
Speaker 4: were walking around in them. So we know that he's

831
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:43,840
Speaker 4: gonna do well. But the distribution is different, and that's

832
00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:46,680
Speaker 4: why people are making sure they getting target in the

833
00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:50,840
Speaker 4: big box stores. Because the corner store sneaker store, that's cool.

834
00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:53,640
Speaker 4: You want to be there too, just like Nike is

835
00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:55,879
Speaker 4: in there too, just like New Balance is in there too.

836
00:44:56,200 --> 00:45:01,000
Speaker 4: In order to scale so that a little. Because I'm Rovio, Alabama,

837
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:03,560
Speaker 4: where my family members live, they ain't got no small

838
00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:05,840
Speaker 4: too many small sneaker stores. Maybe they are one, but

839
00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:08,360
Speaker 4: not really right. They might have a sneaker store that

840
00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:11,560
Speaker 4: sells like sketches and that has something for people who

841
00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:15,160
Speaker 4: have prosthetic legs or something, you know, like elderly people,

842
00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:17,439
Speaker 4: but they don't have a fly ass sneaker store. Should

843
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:19,560
Speaker 4: somebody open one, no problem, I agree with that one

844
00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:23,239
Speaker 4: hundred percent. But they got Walmart right, And so when

845
00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:25,640
Speaker 4: people are this is why people want to be in

846
00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:28,840
Speaker 4: these places where the masses can get to their product.

847
00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:34,120
Speaker 4: It builds generational wealth, and generational wealth ultimately helps people

848
00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:38,520
Speaker 4: in our community because our people generally hire their own people, right.

849
00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:41,560
Speaker 1: And so so I get the point.

850
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Speaker 4: I get the point of why we want diversity, equity,

851
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:46,279
Speaker 4: and inclusion because.

852
00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:50,160
Speaker 1: We are the engine that fuels these companies.

853
00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:54,440
Speaker 4: But I just want to say this because I know

854
00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:57,319
Speaker 4: that there are people who want to know how I

855
00:45:57,400 --> 00:46:01,920
Speaker 4: feel about the video that Tabbit the Brown, who I

856
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:06,480
Speaker 4: absolutely adore. I love tab With the Brown. I share

857
00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:11,560
Speaker 4: her videos, I talk about what she's said everywhere because

858
00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:15,400
Speaker 4: she is so authentic and beautiful and Courtney out of

859
00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:20,400
Speaker 4: La love Courtney. Courtney has supported us in the past.

860
00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:24,320
Speaker 4: I've been in space with her. She has the main

861
00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:28,680
Speaker 4: excuse me, the main choice. I support these women and

862
00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:30,760
Speaker 4: I see what they're saying, and that's why I stop

863
00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:34,399
Speaker 4: to listen because I know what struggles they have been

864
00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:38,040
Speaker 4: through in order to get to where they are today.

865
00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:42,320
Speaker 4: But I want to frame this and it's very important

866
00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:43,319
Speaker 4: that people hear me.

867
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Speaker 1: One.

868
00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:51,080
Speaker 4: It is not not smart because I heard that somewhere.

869
00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:52,600
Speaker 1: Let let's be smart.

870
00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:57,600
Speaker 4: It is not not smart to take your money and

871
00:46:57,640 --> 00:47:00,520
Speaker 4: put it in your pocket when you feel you being disrespected.

872
00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:02,800
Speaker 1: That is very smart.

873
00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:07,000
Speaker 4: So it is not not smart to say I don't

874
00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:08,160
Speaker 4: want to spend my money.

875
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Speaker 1: And I'm gonna tell you another thing. If you are.

876
00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:15,399
Speaker 4: Spending your money in a store with a brand, or

877
00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:19,840
Speaker 4: you are going into places and spaces and doing business

878
00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:23,600
Speaker 4: with people and they disrespect you, damn it, you should

879
00:47:23,600 --> 00:47:26,560
Speaker 4: be emotional as a motherfucker. When people keep talking about

880
00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:30,680
Speaker 4: don't be so emotional, it's too much emotions. I am

881
00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:34,600
Speaker 4: extremely emotional about the blood, sweat and tears that I

882
00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:37,880
Speaker 4: put into every dollar that comes into my bank account,

883
00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:42,560
Speaker 4: every dime I make. It's an emotional battle for me

884
00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:44,880
Speaker 4: because I know that if it were not for me

885
00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:48,840
Speaker 4: getting my ass up out the bed every single day, hustling,

886
00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:52,080
Speaker 4: dealing with situations and people that I don't want to

887
00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:56,200
Speaker 4: deal with, Feeling the pain, the pain of the struggle

888
00:47:56,560 --> 00:47:59,840
Speaker 4: of what it takes to be able to survive, that

889
00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:01,839
Speaker 4: is an emotional thing.

890
00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:04,400
Speaker 1: Between me and my resources.

891
00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:09,200
Speaker 4: Right, so when you disrespect me, I emotionally can respond

892
00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:10,840
Speaker 4: and say you won't get a dime.

893
00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:14,040
Speaker 1: Now, should leaders be strategic.

894
00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:18,359
Speaker 4: Absolutely, but consumers have the right to decide. As has

895
00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:22,040
Speaker 4: been said, Both Courtney and Tabitha and others have said,

896
00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:23,319
Speaker 4: do what you think is right.

897
00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:25,319
Speaker 1: So nobody has said don't do it.

898
00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:29,080
Speaker 4: But when we said we were going to boycott Gucci,

899
00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:32,640
Speaker 4: they told us, but Dapper Dan is there and he

900
00:48:32,719 --> 00:48:35,960
Speaker 4: has a partnership with them. We don't want to abandon Dappadan.

901
00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:41,360
Speaker 4: When we said we were going to boycott waffle house,

902
00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:43,720
Speaker 4: they said, but what about the employees?

903
00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:47,480
Speaker 1: We don't know, it might create this, that and the third.

904
00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:51,400
Speaker 4: The point is that every time we get ready to

905
00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:56,000
Speaker 4: say we're not going to spend our money somewhere, we

906
00:48:56,040 --> 00:48:58,680
Speaker 4: are told, but what about this?

907
00:48:58,840 --> 00:49:02,400
Speaker 1: That, and the third? And brothers and sisters, ladies and gentlemen.

908
00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:06,359
Speaker 4: I want to tell you today that I understand the

909
00:49:06,520 --> 00:49:09,359
Speaker 4: challenges because, as Angelo said to us when we were

910
00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:14,600
Speaker 4: meeting yesterday and whatever, that, black folks are always in

911
00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:19,040
Speaker 4: the catch twenty two. We always in between a rock

912
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:21,960
Speaker 4: and a hard place, trying to figure out how we're

913
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:25,359
Speaker 4: going to move forward. But the one thing I understand

914
00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:31,320
Speaker 4: so clear about oppression and about the white man who

915
00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:35,920
Speaker 4: believes that they have power and dominion over us, is

916
00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:39,279
Speaker 4: that they have studied our patterns and they sit back

917
00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:44,640
Speaker 4: and they watch us dismantle even our own people's frustration.

918
00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:51,719
Speaker 4: We are able to dismantle a movement without even negative intentions.

919
00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:56,080
Speaker 4: It's not even intentionally. We're just trying to figure out

920
00:49:56,120 --> 00:49:59,959
Speaker 4: which way to go. So whenever Black people get real

921
00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:04,560
Speaker 4: and we're ready to move, our own people are the

922
00:50:04,600 --> 00:50:08,520
Speaker 4: ones who helped to shift the energy, and we gotta

923
00:50:08,560 --> 00:50:13,799
Speaker 4: be real careful about that, real careful about that. And

924
00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:17,640
Speaker 4: so I personally am not going to target, but I'm

925
00:50:17,680 --> 00:50:23,480
Speaker 4: not going to join any particular call for boycott yet.

926
00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:27,000
Speaker 4: And that is because I want to go back to

927
00:50:27,239 --> 00:50:33,040
Speaker 4: the teachings of doctor King operation bread Basket, when he

928
00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:39,839
Speaker 4: was thinking through economic withdrawal, and they were using their

929
00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:44,719
Speaker 4: economic power, and they had points that they studied, and

930
00:50:44,760 --> 00:50:48,000
Speaker 4: they had points to their movement. And so there's a

931
00:50:48,080 --> 00:50:49,799
Speaker 4: lot of work that needs to be done, and I'm

932
00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:52,640
Speaker 4: not taking away strike for all people who are doing

933
00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:54,560
Speaker 4: different things. You got people out here saying I'm just

934
00:50:54,600 --> 00:50:57,360
Speaker 4: gonna walk in the door and I'm gonna get just

935
00:50:57,440 --> 00:50:58,200
Speaker 4: the black products.

936
00:50:58,239 --> 00:50:59,920
Speaker 1: You got people who are saying they're gonna do all

937
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:00,800
Speaker 1: types of things.

938
00:51:01,040 --> 00:51:04,680
Speaker 4: But for us to have the impact necessary to show

939
00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:07,719
Speaker 4: these people that we're not playing with them, we're going

940
00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:11,480
Speaker 4: to need to come together, to sit down, to talk

941
00:51:11,560 --> 00:51:14,279
Speaker 4: through what our steps are, what our goals are, and

942
00:51:14,320 --> 00:51:17,160
Speaker 4: what it is that we're attempting to accomplish, and then

943
00:51:17,320 --> 00:51:21,000
Speaker 4: make a move that our people can get behind and understand.

944
00:51:21,080 --> 00:51:25,319
Speaker 4: Because right now, all this confusion, everybody's this one says this,

945
00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:27,439
Speaker 4: this one says that you lose.

946
00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:28,400
Speaker 1: People in the middle of it.

947
00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:30,480
Speaker 4: And then I'm saying this last thing, and I promise

948
00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:31,520
Speaker 4: I won't say another word.

949
00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:34,400
Speaker 3: You're talking good though, No, But I just want.

950
00:51:34,280 --> 00:51:35,239
Speaker 1: To say one last thing.

951
00:51:37,120 --> 00:51:45,520
Speaker 4: It is I and I I struggle because the last

952
00:51:45,600 --> 00:51:48,640
Speaker 4: thing that I want is.

953
00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:49,920
Speaker 1: To be.

954
00:51:53,120 --> 00:51:57,520
Speaker 4: At odds with our people. We've got enough, we got division,

955
00:51:58,080 --> 00:52:03,480
Speaker 4: we have so many things that pulls us in different directions,

956
00:52:03,520 --> 00:52:07,319
Speaker 4: and people just struggling, people just and people. People are

957
00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:11,480
Speaker 4: just trying to figure it out as we go along.

958
00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:15,080
Speaker 4: All of us have those moments, and so I want

959
00:52:15,160 --> 00:52:19,480
Speaker 4: to be conscious of that because most of the people

960
00:52:19,480 --> 00:52:23,280
Speaker 4: that I see involved in this truly love black people

961
00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:27,279
Speaker 4: like we love black people, and so I want to

962
00:52:27,320 --> 00:52:29,960
Speaker 4: be conscious of that. But I want to say to

963
00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:39,279
Speaker 4: you that movements protest and most importantly, fighting oppression is

964
00:52:39,480 --> 00:52:45,560
Speaker 4: not convenient or comfortable. People will hurt, people will lose,

965
00:52:46,080 --> 00:52:50,160
Speaker 4: people will suffer. But I promise you for everything that

966
00:52:50,239 --> 00:52:53,799
Speaker 4: I love that if we stand up and we do

967
00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:59,640
Speaker 4: it majority together right, even though some people may lose,

968
00:53:00,560 --> 00:53:05,600
Speaker 4: the gain on the end is for a long stretch.

969
00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:08,239
Speaker 4: I can't say a lifetime because they always circle back,

970
00:53:08,760 --> 00:53:12,240
Speaker 4: but it's a long stretch that we will be able

971
00:53:12,280 --> 00:53:15,120
Speaker 4: to make gains, even with our own young people being

972
00:53:15,160 --> 00:53:17,160
Speaker 4: able to look at us and see that we stood

973
00:53:17,200 --> 00:53:17,760
Speaker 4: for something.

974
00:53:18,239 --> 00:53:21,000
Speaker 1: And the idea that some of us are.

975
00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:25,240
Speaker 4: Gonna walk into Target and say, I'm just gonna purchase

976
00:53:25,280 --> 00:53:28,920
Speaker 4: the black brands. Perhaps some people might do that. I

977
00:53:28,920 --> 00:53:30,680
Speaker 4: think it's a lot of people that's gonna do that,

978
00:53:31,120 --> 00:53:34,719
Speaker 4: but the majority of our people will easily slip back

979
00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:37,560
Speaker 4: into what they got the paper towels on sale today,

980
00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:38,480
Speaker 4: they got this.

981
00:53:38,680 --> 00:53:40,320
Speaker 1: A boycott is a boycott.

982
00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:42,640
Speaker 4: If we say we don't shop at Target, we don't

983
00:53:42,680 --> 00:53:45,760
Speaker 4: shop at Target. So we do e commerce. We figure

984
00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:49,040
Speaker 4: out how to support people, but we cannot be walking

985
00:53:49,120 --> 00:53:51,839
Speaker 4: in and out the door. Because another thing I said

986
00:53:51,880 --> 00:53:53,920
Speaker 4: I was gonna say us. But another thing is that

987
00:53:54,400 --> 00:54:00,400
Speaker 4: your presence is also a part or lack thereof is

988
00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:01,600
Speaker 4: a part of a boycott.

989
00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:03,080
Speaker 1: Your presence.

990
00:54:04,680 --> 00:54:07,960
Speaker 4: Okay, So when you when you come through the door,

991
00:54:08,480 --> 00:54:12,960
Speaker 4: that in and of itself is a sign that in

992
00:54:13,080 --> 00:54:16,120
Speaker 4: and of itself shows.

993
00:54:17,239 --> 00:54:18,040
Speaker 3: Places other people.

994
00:54:18,080 --> 00:54:20,640
Speaker 2: Because the reality of the situation is there are people

995
00:54:20,680 --> 00:54:23,440
Speaker 2: who are saying, I'm not going to the store, I'm

996
00:54:23,480 --> 00:54:26,000
Speaker 2: gonna boycott, and they and they watch you walk into

997
00:54:26,040 --> 00:54:27,680
Speaker 2: that store and they just see.

998
00:54:27,560 --> 00:54:31,520
Speaker 4: Like, damn, I need to go to targeting that I

999
00:54:31,560 --> 00:54:35,560
Speaker 4: have anywhere, and people, people, you.

1000
00:54:35,680 --> 00:54:38,319
Speaker 2: Need people to hold us to keep us strong, like

1001
00:54:38,440 --> 00:54:40,120
Speaker 2: you know, because a lot of people are this is

1002
00:54:40,360 --> 00:54:43,120
Speaker 2: Shopping is addictive, you know, especially when you when you

1003
00:54:43,160 --> 00:54:45,239
Speaker 2: go to your Target and that's your favorite store. You

1004
00:54:45,320 --> 00:54:47,279
Speaker 2: going every hour and it got what you want, and

1005
00:54:47,760 --> 00:54:51,960
Speaker 2: you used to that, and you you you're fighting against

1006
00:54:52,120 --> 00:54:54,960
Speaker 2: that urge and you see somebody else that you know

1007
00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:56,799
Speaker 2: has that same urge and say, look, I know it's hard,

1008
00:54:56,840 --> 00:54:58,920
Speaker 2: but we ain't going to that Target. And y'all walk

1009
00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:01,000
Speaker 2: to another store and you we start getting used to it.

1010
00:55:01,280 --> 00:55:03,640
Speaker 2: We need we listen to me, like you said, we

1011
00:55:04,080 --> 00:55:07,960
Speaker 2: have to be steadfast and we have to be unified

1012
00:55:08,600 --> 00:55:11,440
Speaker 2: in order to get because on the other side of it,

1013
00:55:11,440 --> 00:55:13,960
Speaker 2: it shows these people that they can't play with us.

1014
00:55:14,120 --> 00:55:15,759
Speaker 2: It shows them that, you know what, we have to

1015
00:55:15,800 --> 00:55:18,359
Speaker 2: make consensions. We have to come back, we have to

1016
00:55:18,520 --> 00:55:21,640
Speaker 2: rethink this, We have to have meetings because we moved

1017
00:55:21,640 --> 00:55:22,560
Speaker 2: a little too fast.

1018
00:55:22,880 --> 00:55:25,080
Speaker 3: And that's what history has told us.

1019
00:55:25,080 --> 00:55:27,719
Speaker 2: When we talk about Operation Break Basket and we talk

1020
00:55:27,760 --> 00:55:30,320
Speaker 2: about Doctor King and the boycotts they had, it's because

1021
00:55:30,440 --> 00:55:33,000
Speaker 2: they were willing to sacrifice for a year. They were

1022
00:55:33,000 --> 00:55:35,000
Speaker 2: willing to say I'm not going to do this. The

1023
00:55:35,040 --> 00:55:37,520
Speaker 2: majority of us, ninety nine percent of us are not

1024
00:55:37,560 --> 00:55:39,600
Speaker 2: going to Sure, there was people who back, and there.

1025
00:55:39,480 --> 00:55:42,440
Speaker 4: Are people right now who need the bread and they

1026
00:55:42,520 --> 00:55:44,760
Speaker 4: only have a Walmart or they only have a Target.

1027
00:55:44,760 --> 00:55:47,239
Speaker 2: And we understand, and you know we have to do

1028
00:55:47,880 --> 00:55:49,800
Speaker 2: in our organizer, we have to figure out how do

1029
00:55:49,880 --> 00:55:52,279
Speaker 2: we get them some bread and how do we get

1030
00:55:52,280 --> 00:55:56,080
Speaker 2: them to another store? You know, as as thoughtful leaders.

1031
00:55:56,120 --> 00:55:57,560
Speaker 2: This is what I want to talk about. I want

1032
00:55:57,600 --> 00:56:00,080
Speaker 2: to talk about, Okay, we're boycotting, right, We're gonna go

1033
00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:01,600
Speaker 2: outside and we're gonna pick it in front of it.

1034
00:56:01,719 --> 00:56:04,160
Speaker 2: We're gonna pick a target today that we're gonna go

1035
00:56:04,160 --> 00:56:06,280
Speaker 2: out and we're gonna explain why we're not going to target.

1036
00:56:06,360 --> 00:56:08,719
Speaker 2: We're gonna tell people where else they can go. We're

1037
00:56:08,719 --> 00:56:10,440
Speaker 2: gonna say, you know what, we're willing to set up.

1038
00:56:10,440 --> 00:56:12,600
Speaker 2: We have two or three cars a day that's willing

1039
00:56:12,600 --> 00:56:14,560
Speaker 2: to take you. If you can't get to another store,

1040
00:56:14,600 --> 00:56:16,360
Speaker 2: we're gonna willing to drop. These are things, These are

1041
00:56:16,400 --> 00:56:19,080
Speaker 2: strategic things that we have to do to show community,

1042
00:56:19,080 --> 00:56:21,040
Speaker 2: to show unity, that we're not just doing something on

1043
00:56:21,040 --> 00:56:23,600
Speaker 2: a whim. But that's what the Panthers was doing. That's

1044
00:56:23,600 --> 00:56:26,760
Speaker 2: what doctor king Ino was doing. They were utilizing their resources,

1045
00:56:26,800 --> 00:56:29,480
Speaker 2: they were utilizing their bodies. They were able to give

1046
00:56:29,560 --> 00:56:32,080
Speaker 2: whatever we can and that's when we come together like that.

1047
00:56:32,360 --> 00:56:34,400
Speaker 2: There's no way that they can beat us. There is

1048
00:56:34,560 --> 00:56:37,399
Speaker 2: absolutely no way that they can beat us. So I'm

1049
00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:40,200
Speaker 2: saying to you, I already know what I'm willing to sacrifice.

1050
00:56:40,320 --> 00:56:42,480
Speaker 2: I know how far to me is willing to go

1051
00:56:42,719 --> 00:56:45,319
Speaker 2: and sacrifice on behalf of our people and to get

1052
00:56:45,320 --> 00:56:48,080
Speaker 2: the respect and the dignity not even just the resource,

1053
00:56:48,120 --> 00:56:49,600
Speaker 2: but the dignity that we deserve.

1054
00:56:49,880 --> 00:56:51,240
Speaker 3: Because if they think that they.

1055
00:56:51,080 --> 00:56:53,120
Speaker 2: Can do whatever they want to to you, then they

1056
00:56:53,120 --> 00:56:55,239
Speaker 2: will do whatever they want to to you. So this

1057
00:56:55,360 --> 00:56:57,839
Speaker 2: is what it is at this moment right now. There

1058
00:56:57,880 --> 00:57:01,600
Speaker 2: are a lot of people who are feeling confused. They're

1059
00:57:01,640 --> 00:57:04,000
Speaker 2: watching on the news, you see all these type of things.

1060
00:57:04,400 --> 00:57:07,640
Speaker 2: I'm telling you, take a deep breath, Take a deep breath,

1061
00:57:08,080 --> 00:57:10,800
Speaker 2: and say, the only thing that's gonna win is our unity.

1062
00:57:11,120 --> 00:57:13,600
Speaker 2: When we show them that we're not breakable, when we

1063
00:57:13,600 --> 00:57:15,560
Speaker 2: show them that we're not weak, when we show them

1064
00:57:15,600 --> 00:57:20,160
Speaker 2: that we're not scared, then they have no choice for takaar.

1065
00:57:20,520 --> 00:57:22,000
Speaker 2: You know, they say, if you look the devil in

1066
00:57:22,000 --> 00:57:24,360
Speaker 2: its eye, he will flee, and it's time for us

1067
00:57:24,360 --> 00:57:25,280
Speaker 2: to look the devil.

1068
00:57:25,000 --> 00:57:25,440
Speaker 3: In his eyes.

1069
00:57:25,600 --> 00:57:29,560
Speaker 4: Absolutely absolutely well, I think there's you know, I have

1070
00:57:29,640 --> 00:57:31,680
Speaker 4: a whole bunch of more stuff here, but I think

1071
00:57:31,720 --> 00:57:35,720
Speaker 4: that we have covered it all, you know, And I

1072
00:57:36,600 --> 00:57:41,200
Speaker 4: would I would circle back to my point that I

1073
00:57:41,240 --> 00:57:47,280
Speaker 4: am completely understanding and aware of how challenging and how

1074
00:57:47,400 --> 00:57:51,400
Speaker 4: complex these moments are in these situations because they get

1075
00:57:51,480 --> 00:57:52,400
Speaker 4: us wrapped.

1076
00:57:52,120 --> 00:57:55,200
Speaker 1: Up in different ways. You know, you get you all.

1077
00:57:55,800 --> 00:57:57,240
Speaker 1: But I know that.

1078
00:57:58,640 --> 00:58:03,560
Speaker 4: A boycott is a boycott. I know that everybody's not

1079
00:58:03,600 --> 00:58:08,960
Speaker 4: gonna do it. I know that the people who are involved,

1080
00:58:09,000 --> 00:58:14,280
Speaker 4: these black businesses who can be substantially hurt, they love

1081
00:58:14,320 --> 00:58:16,760
Speaker 4: black people, at least the ones I know they love

1082
00:58:16,800 --> 00:58:17,440
Speaker 4: black people.

1083
00:58:18,320 --> 00:58:19,640
Speaker 1: And I also know that.

1084
00:58:21,520 --> 00:58:25,640
Speaker 4: We are not I personally in the position that I'm in,

1085
00:58:26,760 --> 00:58:32,840
Speaker 4: I cannot sit by and not at least tell us

1086
00:58:33,160 --> 00:58:38,600
Speaker 4: where we are and make sure that people understand what's happening. Yeah,

1087
00:58:38,600 --> 00:58:41,360
Speaker 4: I know, you can't just take your product off the stand,

1088
00:58:41,720 --> 00:58:46,320
Speaker 4: off the shelf, but there ought to be a morality.

1089
00:58:45,760 --> 00:58:48,000
Speaker 1: Clause for you too, that's right.

1090
00:58:48,320 --> 00:58:51,720
Speaker 4: They ought to be if you are my partner. Because

1091
00:58:51,840 --> 00:58:55,480
Speaker 4: Target was supposed to be these people's partner. They never

1092
00:58:55,600 --> 00:58:59,840
Speaker 4: said that Target. They never said that Target was the

1093
00:59:00,080 --> 00:59:05,880
Speaker 4: employer of XYZ Black Brands or XYZ Women own brands.

1094
00:59:06,280 --> 00:59:10,600
Speaker 4: They said they were partners, right. That's why one of

1095
00:59:10,640 --> 00:59:13,400
Speaker 4: the things that we've been told that's a big risk

1096
00:59:13,960 --> 00:59:18,960
Speaker 4: is that if you don't sell your product, you either

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00:59:19,000 --> 00:59:21,520
Speaker 4: owe them money or you end up with all the

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00:59:21,600 --> 00:59:25,200
Speaker 4: product and no money. Right, So, because that's what partnerships

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00:59:25,200 --> 00:59:29,320
Speaker 4: look like. But and and by the way, people, some

1100
00:59:29,440 --> 00:59:32,080
Speaker 4: of these same brand owners, I'm talking about all of them.

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00:59:32,200 --> 00:59:34,800
Speaker 4: That's so please, let's not do the old Tamika said

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Speaker 4: this about Tabithaugh or this about so and so or

1103
00:59:37,960 --> 00:59:39,480
Speaker 4: such and such, because that's not what I'm talking about

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00:59:39,480 --> 00:59:44,160
Speaker 4: to about the whole pie. Right, If you black brand

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00:59:44,320 --> 00:59:49,120
Speaker 4: or black woman was so much of a partner of targets,

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00:59:49,760 --> 00:59:52,120
Speaker 4: why would they not pick up the phone and call

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00:59:52,280 --> 00:59:54,440
Speaker 4: you to tell you that this is what was going

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00:59:54,520 --> 00:59:55,000
Speaker 4: to happen.

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Speaker 1: So already there's a breach.

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Speaker 4: In terms of what that partner looks like, because they

1111
01:00:01,840 --> 01:00:05,200
Speaker 4: should have been sitting with you, saying we're doing this

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Speaker 4: new thing, were.

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Speaker 1: Trying to figure out how we're gonna go about it.

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01:00:09,400 --> 01:00:11,520
Speaker 4: We want to tell you that this is gonna impact

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Speaker 4: you because there are people that.

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Speaker 1: Since I'm doing what I'm doing, they not gonna work

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Speaker 1: with you no more.

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Speaker 4: How do we know that that's the case, because we've

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Speaker 4: discussed that in our board meetings all the time for

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Speaker 4: Until Freedom.

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Speaker 1: And other organizations that I'm a part of.

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Speaker 4: In fact, when I went to Savior's Day and was

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Speaker 4: called anti Semitic for being a supporter of the Nation

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01:00:35,240 --> 01:00:39,360
Speaker 4: of Islam, there were people who stopped working with me,

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Speaker 4: People pulled their money, and there were people I was

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01:00:43,480 --> 01:00:47,800
Speaker 4: on boards that I was asked to resign from because

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01:00:48,120 --> 01:00:52,360
Speaker 4: the morality clause is that if you do something in

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01:00:52,440 --> 01:00:56,960
Speaker 4: this partnership that we have that harms the brand of

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Speaker 4: another person, then how does that impact met and my organization,

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Speaker 4: my company.

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Speaker 1: This is what these people said to me.

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Speaker 4: So if Target is your partner, why did they not

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Speaker 4: even have the respect to pick up the phone and

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Speaker 4: have a meeting with people and say, hey, this is

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01:01:14,680 --> 01:01:17,040
Speaker 4: what's going on so that you could get prepared for

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01:01:17,120 --> 01:01:20,600
Speaker 4: what is to come. It didn't happen. It didn't happen.

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01:01:21,800 --> 01:01:26,360
Speaker 4: So the partnership has been breached. Okay, not wanting diversity,

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01:01:26,920 --> 01:01:30,400
Speaker 4: equity and inclusion should at least be something that lawyers

1139
01:01:30,400 --> 01:01:33,880
Speaker 4: can look at to see if there's a morality clause

1140
01:01:33,920 --> 01:01:37,760
Speaker 4: that has been broken on their behalf. All of these

1141
01:01:37,800 --> 01:01:40,080
Speaker 4: things need to be done, and I'm sure it is

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01:01:40,160 --> 01:01:43,240
Speaker 4: being done. But the point that I'm making here is

1143
01:01:43,280 --> 01:01:47,440
Speaker 4: that the consumer who chooses to walk in the door

1144
01:01:47,720 --> 01:01:49,720
Speaker 4: and just do a little this and little do a

1145
01:01:49,760 --> 01:01:54,160
Speaker 4: little of that, that is still crossing the picket line.

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01:01:54,440 --> 01:01:58,600
Speaker 4: It's crossing the picket line. Sorry to tell y'all. How

1147
01:01:58,680 --> 01:02:01,440
Speaker 4: we figure it out from here from an e commerce

1148
01:02:01,520 --> 01:02:03,880
Speaker 4: perspective or what we need to do.

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01:02:04,240 --> 01:02:05,720
Speaker 1: We need to figure that out.

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Speaker 4: I'm not going to Target, but I understand that there

1151
01:02:09,640 --> 01:02:13,600
Speaker 4: are some people who will say, well, this is my

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01:02:13,720 --> 01:02:16,040
Speaker 4: product or these are people that I respect, and I'm

1153
01:02:16,120 --> 01:02:19,560
Speaker 4: going to do that. In the meanwhile, however, we as

1154
01:02:19,640 --> 01:02:22,960
Speaker 4: leaders need to come together to figure out what our

1155
01:02:23,000 --> 01:02:28,640
Speaker 4: people can do collectively, collectively to address what we know

1156
01:02:29,120 --> 01:02:33,400
Speaker 4: is an onslaught that if other people in America have

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01:02:33,520 --> 01:02:37,400
Speaker 4: a cold, even the flu, we as black people are

1158
01:02:37,440 --> 01:02:41,680
Speaker 4: going to experience a pandemic. So we better be aware

1159
01:02:42,040 --> 01:02:43,680
Speaker 4: that what they're doing over here to.

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Speaker 1: Homie, they gonna do to you.

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Speaker 3: One hundred times.

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Speaker 1: So there's that.

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Speaker 2: On that note, we'll end this show without mine. Don't

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01:02:52,280 --> 01:02:53,760
Speaker 2: get it, and I had a lot of stuff to

1165
01:02:53,800 --> 01:02:55,640
Speaker 2: say about it. I don't get it. But I think

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01:02:55,880 --> 01:02:59,000
Speaker 2: this boycott, in this situation where Target was extremely important

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01:02:59,040 --> 01:03:01,120
Speaker 2: for us to speak about, well, please let us know

1168
01:03:01,160 --> 01:03:04,240
Speaker 2: how you feel. We want to hear all sides, especially

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01:03:04,240 --> 01:03:07,360
Speaker 2: from our people who are going to be impacted by

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01:03:07,400 --> 01:03:08,440
Speaker 2: what's going on in Target.

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Speaker 3: Just let us know.

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Speaker 2: Once again, I'm not gonna always be right, Tamika d

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01:03:11,920 --> 01:03:13,640
Speaker 2: marriages and I can always be wrong, but we will

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01:03:13,680 --> 01:03:16,800
Speaker 2: both always and I mean always be authentic.

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Speaker 1: Pace that's how we own it.