Speaker 1: Well, welcome back to the Sean Hannity Show. My name
Speaker 1: is Rose. Sean is traveling with the President on his
Speaker 1: Middle East tour. You can hear all about it as
Speaker 1: he weighs in every night on his TV show Live
Speaker 1: from the Middle East in the meantime. My name is Rose,
Speaker 1: as I said, and joining me today, is the author
Speaker 1: of several books, some of which are planned read China's
Speaker 1: Going to War and also The Coming Collapse of China
Speaker 1: and the Great US China Tech War. And I have
Speaker 1: read some of these books. I've always had to listen
Speaker 1: to what he's had to say about China. He's an
Speaker 1: expert in my opinion. His name is Gordon Chang. He's
Speaker 1: a former United States Trade representative. He's joining us today
Speaker 1: to talk about what happened with the talks between the
Speaker 1: US and China this weekend in Switzerland. Please welcome to
Speaker 1: the show, Gordon Chang.
Speaker 2: How are you?
Speaker 3: I'm fine, Rose, and thank you so much.
Speaker 4: Listen.
Speaker 1: If anyone wants to keep up with what's going on,
Speaker 1: particularly where China is Concer learned, you can check Gordon
Speaker 1: out at Gordon g Chang on x SO. Mister Chang,
Speaker 1: there's a lot going on right now. Everybody's telling us
Speaker 1: that the talks in Switzerland over the weekend were substantial
Speaker 1: in terms of progress. The Chinese Vice Premier said it
Speaker 1: was an important first step toward resolving differences. China is
Speaker 1: America's third largest trading partner. But what we are looking
Speaker 1: at right now is hopefully setting a path for future
Speaker 1: discussions on open market access for American exports, because in
Speaker 1: my opinion, that's one of the most important things. But
Speaker 1: there were a lot of things that they were hoping
Speaker 1: for in this meeting. They were hoping that they could
Speaker 1: achieve to de escalate tensions with China. They wanted to
Speaker 1: create a level playing field. They wanted to rebuild their
Speaker 1: strategic industries that have been actually hollowed out in the past.
Speaker 1: Retrade not fair trade. There a whole bunch of things
Speaker 1: that they wanted to accomplish. What, in fact, in your opinion,
Speaker 1: did they achieve and how realistic were those goals in
Speaker 1: the first place, so great questions.
Speaker 3: What happened was a temporary concession by the United States
Speaker 3: ninety day pause on tariffs, and at the end of
Speaker 3: that we will see if China is as good as
Speaker 3: its word. President Trump today said the Chinese agreed to
Speaker 3: open their economy to American products. This is something that
Speaker 3: Americans have wanted for centuries, actually, and it's something we
Speaker 3: thought we'd get with China's accession to the World Trade
Speaker 3: Organization in two thousand and one. But China's continued the
Speaker 3: theft of US intellectual property and increasingly we see China's
Speaker 3: trade policy is becoming more and more predatory. So we're
Speaker 3: going to see if the Treasury Secretary can negotiate a
Speaker 3: larger trade deal. So at the moment, US tariffs have
Speaker 3: been dropped and the Chinese have dropped tariffs as well,
Speaker 3: and it's sort of like a temporary truce.
Speaker 2: Well, you know, and you touched.
Speaker 1: On something too, because we've had a massive trade deficit
Speaker 1: where China is concerned, and it concerns me too for
Speaker 1: our manufacturing sector because there's been a decline and all
Speaker 1: they do is really fuel the offshoring of American jobs.
Speaker 2: So my hope, and I'm not sure why do I
Speaker 2: feel a little like.
Speaker 1: Cautious going forward with this because I'm not sure I
Speaker 1: trust them. I mean, isn't it in their best interest
Speaker 1: as well? I'm talking about China. The Communist Party isn't
Speaker 1: it in their best interest to follow through on some
Speaker 1: of these things that were discussed over the.
Speaker 3: Weekend, Well, yes, it is. The reason is the Chinese
Speaker 3: economy is fundamentally unbalanced. Consumption accounts for something like thirty
Speaker 3: eight thirty nine percent of China's gross domestic product. That
Speaker 3: is low by global standards, perhaps maybe even the lowest contribution. Now,
Speaker 3: Sijan Pain is developing a wartime economy. He wants to
Speaker 3: export his way out of problems. Of fact, that's his
Speaker 3: only solution, which means he needs the US. Now, the
Speaker 3: problem is that cijmping is building up a war machine
Speaker 3: which is configured to kill Americans, and so we might
Speaker 3: have an interest in not trading with him in order
Speaker 3: to make sure he doesn't have the resources to go
Speaker 3: build those ships and train the tanks and everything else
Speaker 3: that he wants to use against us and our friends.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that concerns me very much because when we
Speaker 1: talk about, first of all, their economy, it isn't it's
Speaker 1: not doing well. And in fact, how does the worker's
Speaker 1: protest play into it? Because it takes a lot of
Speaker 1: hutzpot if you asked me to protest in China, right, So,
Speaker 1: how surprised was the CCP buy that, and did the
Speaker 1: protest actually persuade the party one way or another.
Speaker 2: Particularly where all of this is concerned.
Speaker 3: I imagine that the worker protests across China and also
Speaker 3: the bank protests because I think depositors are not being
Speaker 3: able to get their mon out of some of the
Speaker 3: smaller financial institutions. This must have had a factor in
Speaker 3: the decisions of the Communist Party to talk to treasure
Speaker 3: Secretary Bessant and US Trade representative Career right now. These protests, actually,
Speaker 3: these protests have been occurring even before Trump took the
Speaker 3: oath of office for a second term, but they've gotten
Speaker 3: worse because the tariffs have slammed China's exports sector, which
Speaker 3: has been particularly hard hit for our last year and
Speaker 3: a half. Maybe we're seeing that a lot of these
Speaker 3: factories don't have orders, but these tariffs have pushed some
Speaker 3: of these factories to the point of closure, and there
Speaker 3: are closures across China, and they're more and more worker protests.
Speaker 3: As you point out, Yeah, I mean.
Speaker 1: When you think about it, I mean, yeah, we're talking
Speaker 1: about the Communist Chinese Party, but we're also talking about
Speaker 1: real people who are also being affected by it, not
Speaker 1: because of anything we've done, obviously, but because of the
Speaker 1: way their government is run.
Speaker 2: And that breaks my heart for them.
Speaker 3: It does because the biggest victims of the Communist Party,
Speaker 3: matter of fact, and most immediate victims are of course
Speaker 3: the Chinese people, but there are a lot of other
Speaker 3: victims of the Communist Party, including American workers, because through
Speaker 3: these predatory practices, through ip theft, China has robbed the
Speaker 3: future of many Americans. You drive through the Rust Belt,
Speaker 3: you drive through the South, there are a lot of
Speaker 3: towns that have been devastated by the loss of factories
Speaker 3: to China, and that means when there's a loss of hope,
Speaker 3: you see fentanyl. When you see fentanyl, there is death.
Speaker 3: China is responsible for the fentanyl gangs. And that's also
Speaker 3: a factor that President Trump is taken into account when
Speaker 3: he set the trade policy. Because twenty percent of our
Speaker 3: thirty percent terriffs are were imposed this year because of fentanyl.
Speaker 1: That's right, and one of the things and they have,
Speaker 1: but they didn't make anything. There's nothing conclusive that came
Speaker 1: out of these talks where fentanyl is concerned. They said
Speaker 1: that they're going to take that the US and China
Speaker 1: will take aggressive actions to stem the flow of fentanyl
Speaker 1: and other precursors from China to ilictit drug producers in
Speaker 1: North America. So but there's nothing substantial here just yet
Speaker 1: in terms of what actions they are going to take
Speaker 1: and with those aggressive, aggressive accent actions might actually produce yes.
Speaker 3: And let's remember this is cagym Ping who promised in
Speaker 3: twenty twenty three to President Biden to stop the flow
Speaker 3: of precursors across the Pacific. This is the Segimping in
Speaker 3: twenty eighteen that made the same essentially the same promise
Speaker 3: through President Trump. And it's the same seagem thing who
Speaker 3: made the same promise to President Obama in twenty sixteen.
Speaker 3: So we've had a lot of promises from China about fentanyl.
Speaker 3: We've only seen the fentanyl trade increase and there's only
Speaker 3: been a stop where there's been a reduction in the
Speaker 3: flow of fentanyl, not because of what the Chinese have
Speaker 3: been doing, but because President Trump closed down the southern
Speaker 3: border and he went after a candidate where there was
Speaker 3: a lot of fentanyl coming in from as well.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not going to hold my breath on that one,
Speaker 1: but it'll be interesting to see. I mean, we are
Speaker 1: talking about different leadership here, so that should help us
Speaker 1: and these efforts for sure. And also I just want
Speaker 1: to comment to you mentioned how we want to encourage
Speaker 1: our you know, domestic production here and strengthen our supply chains.
Speaker 1: And I suppose that when they talk about retaining that
Speaker 1: ten percent tariff during the period of pause, that that
Speaker 1: will help us. So instead of undercutting American workers, it
Speaker 1: would instead support them.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, it's a thirty percent general tariff rate, but
Speaker 3: also we have additional tariffs on top of that road
Speaker 3: so for instance, well.
Speaker 2: Yes, thirty four pot yeah, you're right, yes, and.
Speaker 3: We have the Section two thirty two tariffs, and those
Speaker 3: uncertain goods raised that general thirty percent tariff rate to
Speaker 3: quite a high rate.
Speaker 1: You know, there's something that you mentioned on X and
Speaker 1: by the way, we're talking to Gordon Chang and you
Speaker 1: can find him on Exit's Gordon g Chang on X.
Speaker 1: But I think I saw this on AX. You said
Speaker 1: that while and Career are making soothing statements about the
Speaker 1: results of the trade talks, China's officials are issuing strident
Speaker 1: and defiant words on Chinese language media.
Speaker 2: That doesn't surprise me.
Speaker 3: No, this was yesterday, right after the announcement that there
Speaker 3: was going to be an announcement today, and we saw,
Speaker 3: you know, we saw our officials make conservatory statements, but
Speaker 3: Chinese officials are making very defiant ones to the Chinese.
Speaker 3: And I haven't seen anything since President Trump's conference today,
Speaker 3: but I'm sure we're going to see a whole group
Speaker 3: of a whole flew of new pronouncements from Beijing which
Speaker 3: are probably as strident as the ones twenty four hours ago.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that begs the question, why, mister Chang, why the
Speaker 1: defiant words? I mean, they have a enemy that's that's
Speaker 1: taken a fall, they have workers that have been protesting,
Speaker 1: and yet they will, they will get on Chinese language
Speaker 1: media and have this defiant conversation for the good. I mean,
Speaker 1: like the only reason they're doing this is to somehow
Speaker 1: what for their own people, for the Chinese people? What
Speaker 1: is the goal here? What's the plan? I don't get it.
Speaker 3: Yeah. For about a half decade, C. Jimping has been trying,
Speaker 3: has been saying to the Chinese people that China has
Speaker 3: already surpassed the US, that the US is in terminal decline,
Speaker 3: that China doesn't need the US except in very limited areas.
Speaker 3: So when China goes to a third party location such
Speaker 3: as Switzerland and negotiates with the US, they got to
Speaker 3: come up with some sort of explanation, and their explanation
Speaker 3: has been, well, yeah, we're not going to bow down
Speaker 3: to the Americans, which is a phrase that they often use,
Speaker 3: and they're probably going to say that they got the
Speaker 3: better of the deal, which they did in a sense,
Speaker 3: and they are going to make that case. That basically
Speaker 3: underlines Sijian Thing's authority and legitimacy, because if China can't
Speaker 3: appear to need the US, it can't appear to be
Speaker 3: getting into pressure from President Trump, which is what the
Speaker 3: Chinese in a sense did, So they've got to be
Speaker 3: defiant in their propaganda.
Speaker 1: Well, you know, in China, I mean, let's face it.
Speaker 1: I mean the truth is, nothing really has changed their
Speaker 1: goals and their mindset. I mean, they would like to
Speaker 1: dominate as much as possible. And don't forget too that
Speaker 1: we've seen over recent years how they've been forming those
Speaker 1: unholy alliances with countries like Russia and Iran.
Speaker 2: That's a fact.
Speaker 1: Is that going to change just because we're entering into
Speaker 1: this agreement where tariffs are concerned.
Speaker 3: No, it's not going to change. Sijian Thing has been
Speaker 3: pushing the notion that China not only should control the world,
Speaker 3: should not only dominate the world, should not only exert
Speaker 3: hegemony over the world, but it should rule the world.
Speaker 3: He's been pushing this notion that Chinese rulers have the
Speaker 3: mandate of Heaven to rule what they call t Andcu.
Speaker 3: We're all under heaven, and if we think it's just
Speaker 3: limited to planet Earth. Since twenty seventeen, Chinese officials have
Speaker 3: been making the case in public that the Moon and
Speaker 3: Mars should be considered sovereign Chinese territory, in other words,
Speaker 3: part of the People's republic. So yeah, it's ludicrous, but
Speaker 3: we can't ignore what these guys are saying because this
Speaker 3: is not normal competition. As the Bid administration said, this
Speaker 3: is an attempt to revolutionize the world by imposing worldwide
Speaker 3: Chinese rule. And of course, we do not consider ourselves
Speaker 3: to be a colony of China, but China that they
Speaker 3: consider us to be subservient and a colony to the
Speaker 3: greater Celestial Court in Beiji.
Speaker 1: You know, I think this is just my opinion, because
Speaker 1: what do I know I'm not at on this, but
Speaker 1: it seems to me that they're like, yeah, okay, we're
Speaker 1: gonna we'll go ahead with this, We're gonna work with you,
Speaker 1: while behind the scenes they're still kind of preparing, as
Speaker 1: you say in your book, for war and also to
Speaker 1: sanction proof itself. So I think while both of these
Speaker 1: things are true, for the time being, they may appear
Speaker 1: to be working with us, and we only have like
Speaker 1: two minutes here for you to answer that, but really
Speaker 1: they're still working some other things out that fallow more
Speaker 1: in line with their agenda that you just spoke of.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Absolutely, they believe that they're in an existential struggle
Speaker 3: with the United States, and for us, it's not because
Speaker 3: of anything we say or do, but because of who
Speaker 3: we are and insecure regime in Beijing is worried about
Speaker 3: the inspirational impact of America's values in form of governance
Speaker 3: on the Chinese people, which means we will never have
Speaker 3: amicable relations with China as long as the Communist Party
Speaker 3: rules it.
Speaker 1: That's all right, thank you, and I have to let
Speaker 1: you go right now. I'm still sorry. But Gordon Chang,
Speaker 1: author of the Coming Collapse of China, also check him out.
Speaker 2: Gordon G.
Speaker 1: Chang on X. Thank you mister Change for joining me today.
Speaker 1: Very important subject.
Speaker 3: Thank you well, thank you Roch.
Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Sean Hannity Show.
Speaker 2: My name is Rose.
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Speaker 1: my pleasure to be sitting in for Sean today. I'll
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Speaker 2: And your phone calls.
Speaker 1: The phone number here is eight hundred ninety four to
Speaker 1: one Sean eight hundred ninety four one seven three two six.
Speaker 1: On the phone is Jay from Delaware. Hey Jay, how
Speaker 1: are you doing?
Speaker 5: Good?
Speaker 6: Afternoon? Doing well? A lot of things in the on
Speaker 6: the headlines today that you know, hopefully we got some
Speaker 6: good deals coming with China, and you know there's this,
Speaker 6: you know, if everybody just let the man do his work,
Speaker 6: I think we're all going to be happy with the result.
Speaker 1: We were the last time he did it, you know, yeah, right, yeah,
Speaker 1: So you know, for days.
Speaker 7: It's just incredible.
Speaker 6: I know he comes across a little bit krass.
Speaker 7: If you will, But if if the if people just
Speaker 7: let him do his work and let his cabin do
Speaker 7: his work, I think they're gonna be really satisfy. You
Speaker 7: got the prescription drugs coming down, you got a possible
Speaker 7: blockbuster deal with China that's going to steamroll into all
Speaker 7: kinds of positive things for economy, border security. I mean,
Speaker 7: this is I've never seen anything like it. I hope
Speaker 7: you know your network's uh cover positive tonight on this.
Speaker 1: Don't hold your don't hold your breath, Jay, come on,
Speaker 1: you know you just reminded me of something though, And
Speaker 1: there was something I didn't meant. I was talking about
Speaker 1: the Federalist papers early on, and one of the things
Speaker 1: I didn't mention was what was written in the papers
Speaker 1: about strong leadership and as it relates to a president.
Speaker 1: One of the things that Alexander Hamilton said in those
Speaker 1: papers is that energy in the executive is a leading
Speaker 1: character in the definition of good government. It's essential to
Speaker 1: the protection of the community against foreign attacks. But he
Speaker 1: also said this, and I think this is so telling.
Speaker 1: He said, a feeble executive feeble. Remind you of anyone
Speaker 1: four years four years? A feeble executive implies a feeble
Speaker 1: execution of the government. A feeble execution is but another
Speaker 1: phrase for bad execution. And the government ill executed. Whatever
Speaker 1: it may be in theory, must be in practice a
Speaker 1: bad government. Can anyone say the Biden administration when we
Speaker 1: say feeble? Truer words, mister Hamilton, truer words. Jay, Thanks
Speaker 1: for that reminder. I wanted to bring that up. And
Speaker 1: thanks for your call today too. I appreciate it. Alan
Speaker 1: is calling from North Carolina. Hey, Alan, how are you?
Speaker 3: Hey?
Speaker 8: How are you doing?
Speaker 2: Rose good?
Speaker 5: Can you can you hear me?
Speaker 9: Good?
Speaker 8: You're doing a great job. I just wanted to bring
Speaker 8: up the point that here lately, with all of Trump's deportations,
Speaker 8: they're wanting to cry out that these people are have
Speaker 8: the right to do process. And I think Obama was
Speaker 8: called the deporter in chief, and I'm not sure of
Speaker 8: the number, but Bill Clinton also deported millions of people.
Speaker 5: And did they.
Speaker 8: Either of those presidents, did they have due process for
Speaker 8: any of the or hearings for any of the people
Speaker 8: that they deported.
Speaker 1: Well, you bring up a good point because I saw
Speaker 1: your name up there and description of what you wanted
Speaker 1: to talk about. I did a quick search and in
Speaker 1: one year alone, twenty thirteen, that's all the further I
Speaker 1: had time for. They're under Obama. There were four hundred
Speaker 1: and thirty eight, four hundred and twenty one Depoor did so. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, you're absolutely right, no one. I mean I
Speaker 1: think that he did actually get some criticism at the time,
Speaker 1: not from anyone on the right, but I think there
Speaker 1: were some that were concerned about that. But no, he
Speaker 1: absolutely was doing that without the same criticisms that we're
Speaker 1: getting or we hear, well, they're always going to find
Speaker 1: something wrong with Donald Trump. It's never going to end.
Speaker 1: And you know, the thing that blows my mind, Alan
Speaker 1: is that we see such great success when when we
Speaker 1: see what Doge is uncovered that alone, and taking that
Speaker 1: back to what I said in my monologue about overreach
Speaker 1: of the government and just you would think people would say, bravo,
Speaker 1: bravo Donald Trump. I hate you, but bravo, that was
Speaker 1: great because it's their money that's being misspent. And you know,
Speaker 1: I have actually an interview that's up on my rumble
Speaker 1: page under Rose Unplugged that I did with a woman
Speaker 1: who gave us some examples of the us AID misspending.
Speaker 1: It was atrocious. It's absolutely atrocious. You might want to
Speaker 1: check that out. But anyway, Alan, thank you for the call.
Speaker 1: You're absolutely right about all of that. Don't hold your breath, though.
Speaker 1: I don't think anyone's going to tell me did a
Speaker 1: good job, even though they may secretly think they are
Speaker 1: happy about some of the results of the good work
Speaker 1: that he's done. John calling from Mississippi. Hey, John, Hello, Rose, Hello,
Speaker 1: how are you.
Speaker 3: I'm fine. I don't know.
Speaker 9: But you said someone to kind of pop you up
Speaker 9: and a news was too true, but you said it.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry.
Speaker 9: The way you said it really really made a difference
Speaker 9: for me, and that was that what makes the United
Speaker 9: States great and unique was that these guys two hundred
Speaker 9: years ago sat down and said, you know, the government
Speaker 9: doesn't own us. That was a breakthrough in thinking, because
Speaker 9: up until that point throughout human history, the government owned
Speaker 9: the people, or at least that's what they wanted them
Speaker 9: to believe. But these guys had the moxie to say, no,
Speaker 9: that isn't true, and we're going to put our lives
Speaker 9: on the line for that. And I mean I've heard
Speaker 9: all that before, but it's never occurred to me quite
Speaker 9: so clearly that that is what other nations hate about us,
Speaker 9: and it's what makes us great, thank.
Speaker 2: You, John.
Speaker 1: And it's what scares them too, the leaders of other nations,
Speaker 1: particularly when you talk about communists or socialist nations, that
Speaker 1: scares them because the power in the hands of the
Speaker 1: people man, that is that is something to be reckoned with.
Speaker 1: And they know that. But so do the progressives too.
Speaker 1: They don't want that. And the thing that I love
Speaker 1: about our founding fathers is they believe because they came, John,
Speaker 1: from a country, from a land that dictated to them
Speaker 1: who they could be, what they could do, how they
Speaker 1: needed to worship. But see these men, because I believe
Speaker 1: of their faith, because of their faith definitely that they
Speaker 1: understood that there was greatness in every one of us,
Speaker 1: greatness because that is how God made us. And the
Speaker 1: only thing that would unleash them greatness would be freedom.
Speaker 1: And that's what everybody's afraid of, and they shouldn't be,
Speaker 1: because when you allow that freedom, and you allow that greatness,
Speaker 1: and you allow us to work out that American dream,
Speaker 1: that is powerful, that is success and and tyrants all
Speaker 1: throughout history, as you just mentioned, have wanted to squelch that.
Speaker 1: They wanted to hold that back because then they would
Speaker 1: not have the control that they've had. Our funding fathers
Speaker 1: believed that God was the author of our freedom, not man,
Speaker 1: because if it were man, John, then man can take
Speaker 1: it away. And they so much believed in this experiment,
Speaker 1: this America, and they were they were It was perfect.
Speaker 1: I mean it really was in so many ways. Did
Speaker 1: it have some flaws, yes, But I mean there is
Speaker 1: no other government. Do you know anyone else that has
Speaker 1: a constitution like ours? And you know why they don't, John,
Speaker 1: because then it would be handing the power to the people,
Speaker 1: and like you said, they can't have it.
Speaker 2: They can't.
Speaker 1: God bless our founders. I just pray that there are
Speaker 1: enough of us that continue to preserve this republic and
Speaker 1: understand because John, nobody is teaching our children this.
Speaker 2: No one. I learned it, but they're not learning it.
Speaker 2: Thank you, You're welcome. Sorry I went off on tangent,
Speaker 2: but thank you for your call. Tom.
Speaker 1: You're calling from Texas. You want to talk about China?
Speaker 5: Yes, maam, thanks for taking my call. Rose. I wanted
Speaker 5: to say that you know this ninety. First of all,
Speaker 5: I really love what Trump is doing with these tariffs.
Speaker 5: I love, you know, everything in general that he's doing
Speaker 5: with it. But the ninety day pause with China is
Speaker 5: totally lopsided in China's favor because there's got to be
Speaker 5: a million containers cargo ships sitting on containers waiting me
Speaker 5: checked into port that have been avoiding the tariffs for
Speaker 5: who knows how long, and as soon as we reset
Speaker 5: this ninety pause or sup sinety pause, it's all going
Speaker 5: to get checked in. They're going to avoid the teriffs. Meanwhile,
Speaker 5: we probably have nothing on the water waiting to be
Speaker 5: checked into China, and there's not enough time to manufacture
Speaker 5: something schedule shipping, get it over to China unloaded in
Speaker 5: ninety days. So it's totally totally imbalanced in China's favor
Speaker 5: for this, for this ninety day pause. And if Ji
Speaker 5: Jinping honors his word, then everything's fine. We can give
Speaker 5: him this pass. But if he doesn't, Trump has to
Speaker 5: be punitive and hurt him even more than you, and
Speaker 5: he already has the ability to do.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think you make a really good point. I do
Speaker 1: trust Trump to know what to do next. I do
Speaker 1: I didn't see any other president doing as much as
Speaker 1: he did where this is concerned before him. But I
Speaker 1: do have to believe that he's aware because he's a
Speaker 1: pretty smart guy and he's a pretty strategic guy. So
Speaker 1: I'm with you, though there's a part of me that
Speaker 1: just doesn't trust China and if what Gordon Chang is true,
Speaker 1: and I have every reason to believe that it is,
Speaker 1: that they're already telling their people a different story, which
Speaker 1: doesn't surprise me at all of China's concerned.
Speaker 2: But Tom, thank you for your call. I appreciate it.
Speaker 5: Yes, man, thank you.
Speaker 1: We'll be getting to more of your phone calls coming up.
Speaker 1: It's eight hundred ninety four one Sean, that's eight hundred
Speaker 1: nine four one seven three two six. You know, we
Speaker 1: were talking about Trump, and you know, he just he
Speaker 1: amazes me. Well, you know how he wants to call it.
Speaker 1: It's now the Golf of America. Did you know that
Speaker 1: Mexico is suing the technology company Google for adopting United
Speaker 1: States labeling of the Golf of Mexico Because if you
Speaker 1: do a search, it does come up as Golf of America.
Speaker 1: So now Mexico's suing Google. Trump, it just cracks me up.
Speaker 1: He really does. I mean, there's no end to just
Speaker 1: me just saying Wow, didn't see that one coming. Wow,
Speaker 1: that was that was pretty good. He's amazing. So anyway,
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Speaker 1: Sean Hannity, Welcome back to the Sean Hannity Show.
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Speaker 1: I'll be with you for another hour yet, so you know,
Speaker 1: I hope that's okay with you, but if it isn't,
Speaker 1: too bad, I'm here. And I wanted to bring Linda
Speaker 1: in because first of all, I thought Linda was Italian
Speaker 1: by marriage, but now she tells me. She had this
Speaker 1: like Italian what I ant or grandmother or what?
Speaker 4: She was my grandma Evelyn Jana.
Speaker 2: She was your Nona, she was, but.
Speaker 10: We called her grandma. Yes, I had a mama, had
Speaker 10: a grandma. She was my grandma.
Speaker 4: But she you know, she.
Speaker 10: Loved me, but she kicked the crap out everybody else.
Speaker 10: She didn't take any prisoners. I think she was afraid
Speaker 10: of you. That's why she didn't. She definitely was not
Speaker 10: afraid of meid Man, she told me everything, I know,
Speaker 10: as far as that goes.
Speaker 4: I mean, she was man.
Speaker 2: I can see the Italian in you. I really can't.
Speaker 1: Oh, anyway, Linda, I watched on Netflix just last night
Speaker 1: that movie called Nona's Oh my God.
Speaker 4: Yep.
Speaker 1: It is based on a true story, right, and it's
Speaker 1: that it is this Maria, this restaurant that's in Stanton
Speaker 1: Island or on Stanton Island. But they had all nonahs
Speaker 1: cooking for them. So it's based on this true story.
Speaker 1: But Lynn, I was watching and crying, So I don't know,
Speaker 1: can you really say that you loved something if you
Speaker 1: cried through the whole thing?
Speaker 10: I mean, yeah, you know, I lived through four years
Speaker 10: of Joe Biden I love America, but I cried every day.
Speaker 4: So I love America, but I cried. I got through it.
Speaker 4: It was fine. You know, it was painful to watch.
Speaker 10: That was painful, but you know, Nona's looks amazing. Obviously,
Speaker 10: Staten Island. My husband's from Stanton Island. I lived on
Speaker 10: Staten Island in Sunnyside and my we still have family
Speaker 10: in Staten Island. And he literally said to me the
Speaker 10: other day, he was like, oh, we got to watch
Speaker 10: this movie, and I said, what is it?
Speaker 4: He goes, It's a.
Speaker 10: Lot of town on Netflix, and Vince One's in it.
Speaker 10: We love Vince One. I saw Susan Sarandon's in it.
Speaker 4: I hate her. She's a liberal lunatic, so she can
Speaker 4: take it, you know. And then where the Sun Don't Shine.
Speaker 2: But I love it. She was fabulous.
Speaker 7: Though.
Speaker 4: They love Loreene Brocco.
Speaker 2: Yeah she's a doll.
Speaker 1: But you know, if they were talking about it made
Speaker 1: me think of Sunday dinners with my grandmother. And it
Speaker 1: was just such a production because you know, we didn't
Speaker 1: just have like meat and potatoes and maybe a v
Speaker 1: no no no where she's all the pizza, then the
Speaker 1: pots that all homemade then there was chicken katcha torri.
Speaker 1: Then there were the cheese is always wine, lots of cookies,
Speaker 1: the nots, the pizzales. And I just cried because I
Speaker 1: missed those days, Linda, I missed those days.
Speaker 2: I really do. Did you know those things?
Speaker 5: We?
Speaker 10: You know, true true Italians make big Sunday dinners. You know,
Speaker 10: like Lauren who you know who married my brother. Her
Speaker 10: family still does Sunday dinners and we try to do
Speaker 10: it with our family. I think the difference between the
Speaker 10: families of Yester and the families of today is we
Speaker 10: just don't make that time for family. That's the biggest problem,
Speaker 10: right which a lot of times we live in different places,
Speaker 10: different states, you know, what have you, and it's very
Speaker 10: very difficult. I personally feel like, you know, like with
Speaker 10: our kids, you know, when we're at the table, we're
Speaker 10: having dinner, whatever it is, there's no phones, the TV's
Speaker 10: are off. We'll play music, but that's about it. But
Speaker 10: we're you know, we're definitely engaged in the dinner, in
Speaker 10: hearing about each other's days. That's what's missing in today's families.
Speaker 10: They just don't have that. And that's why you're right,
Speaker 10: this crap happens with their kids. They're like, oh, I
Speaker 10: had no idea this was going on. I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 10: because you were asleep at the switch. You were watching
Speaker 10: what was going on on X or Instagram or the
Speaker 10: parents are as bad as the kids, you know it
Speaker 10: really are to get off the devices and back into reality.
Speaker 10: It's very interesting when you're engaged. Get off your devices.
Speaker 2: I love that. But there, I don't know how much
Speaker 2: time we have, bet real quick.
Speaker 1: There was a story about butter that Anthony and you've
Speaker 1: disagreed on, and I actually, did.
Speaker 2: You remember do you keep does Anthony like his butter
Speaker 2: on the counter or in the refrigera.
Speaker 10: They like their butter and the refrigerator, And I keep
Speaker 10: my butter on the counter where it belongs because nobody
Speaker 10: old butter.
Speaker 2: I don't know why I just thought of that right now.
Speaker 2: I'm with you.
Speaker 4: I like, we want to hear what you think.
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Speaker 4: Let us know where what you think?
Speaker 2: Where do you keep your butter?
Speaker 4: You keep it on the counter, keep it in the fridge,
Speaker 4: inquiring mine pass it?
Speaker 1: And that butter can stay on the counter for ages. Seriously,
Speaker 1: that's in my house anyway.
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