1 00:00:01,520 --> 00:00:03,920 Speaker 1: Well, welcome back to the Sean Hannity Show. My name 2 00:00:04,000 --> 00:00:06,840 Speaker 1: is Rose. Sean is traveling with the President on his 3 00:00:06,880 --> 00:00:09,840 Speaker 1: Middle East tour. You can hear all about it as 4 00:00:09,920 --> 00:00:13,080 Speaker 1: he weighs in every night on his TV show Live 5 00:00:13,240 --> 00:00:15,920 Speaker 1: from the Middle East in the meantime. My name is Rose, 6 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:18,520 Speaker 1: as I said, and joining me today, is the author 7 00:00:18,560 --> 00:00:22,279 Speaker 1: of several books, some of which are planned read China's 8 00:00:22,360 --> 00:00:25,440 Speaker 1: Going to War and also The Coming Collapse of China 9 00:00:25,560 --> 00:00:30,240 Speaker 1: and the Great US China Tech War. And I have 10 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:33,040 Speaker 1: read some of these books. I've always had to listen 11 00:00:33,080 --> 00:00:35,559 Speaker 1: to what he's had to say about China. He's an 12 00:00:35,560 --> 00:00:38,640 Speaker 1: expert in my opinion. His name is Gordon Chang. He's 13 00:00:38,680 --> 00:00:42,000 Speaker 1: a former United States Trade representative. He's joining us today 14 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:46,000 Speaker 1: to talk about what happened with the talks between the 15 00:00:46,159 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 1: US and China this weekend in Switzerland. Please welcome to 16 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:50,880 Speaker 1: the show, Gordon Chang. 17 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 2: How are you? 18 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:54,680 Speaker 3: I'm fine, Rose, and thank you so much. 19 00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 4: Listen. 20 00:00:55,880 --> 00:00:58,080 Speaker 1: If anyone wants to keep up with what's going on, 21 00:00:58,200 --> 00:01:01,560 Speaker 1: particularly where China is Concer learned, you can check Gordon 22 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:06,199 Speaker 1: out at Gordon g Chang on x SO. Mister Chang, 23 00:01:06,360 --> 00:01:09,959 Speaker 1: there's a lot going on right now. Everybody's telling us 24 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:14,640 Speaker 1: that the talks in Switzerland over the weekend were substantial 25 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:18,080 Speaker 1: in terms of progress. The Chinese Vice Premier said it 26 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:23,800 Speaker 1: was an important first step toward resolving differences. China is 27 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:27,800 Speaker 1: America's third largest trading partner. But what we are looking 28 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:30,679 Speaker 1: at right now is hopefully setting a path for future 29 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:34,360 Speaker 1: discussions on open market access for American exports, because in 30 00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:37,000 Speaker 1: my opinion, that's one of the most important things. But 31 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:39,039 Speaker 1: there were a lot of things that they were hoping 32 00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 1: for in this meeting. They were hoping that they could 33 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:45,520 Speaker 1: achieve to de escalate tensions with China. They wanted to 34 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:48,680 Speaker 1: create a level playing field. They wanted to rebuild their 35 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 1: strategic industries that have been actually hollowed out in the past. 36 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 1: Retrade not fair trade. There a whole bunch of things 37 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:58,200 Speaker 1: that they wanted to accomplish. What, in fact, in your opinion, 38 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:01,720 Speaker 1: did they achieve and how realistic were those goals in 39 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 1: the first place, so great questions. 40 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:09,120 Speaker 3: What happened was a temporary concession by the United States 41 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:12,680 Speaker 3: ninety day pause on tariffs, and at the end of 42 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 3: that we will see if China is as good as 43 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:19,120 Speaker 3: its word. President Trump today said the Chinese agreed to 44 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 3: open their economy to American products. This is something that 45 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:26,639 Speaker 3: Americans have wanted for centuries, actually, and it's something we 46 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:29,680 Speaker 3: thought we'd get with China's accession to the World Trade 47 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:33,800 Speaker 3: Organization in two thousand and one. But China's continued the 48 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:38,959 Speaker 3: theft of US intellectual property and increasingly we see China's 49 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:42,839 Speaker 3: trade policy is becoming more and more predatory. So we're 50 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:47,880 Speaker 3: going to see if the Treasury Secretary can negotiate a 51 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 3: larger trade deal. So at the moment, US tariffs have 52 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:55,239 Speaker 3: been dropped and the Chinese have dropped tariffs as well, 53 00:02:55,560 --> 00:02:57,920 Speaker 3: and it's sort of like a temporary truce. 54 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:01,360 Speaker 2: Well, you know, and you touched. 55 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:04,359 Speaker 1: On something too, because we've had a massive trade deficit 56 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 1: where China is concerned, and it concerns me too for 57 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:11,839 Speaker 1: our manufacturing sector because there's been a decline and all 58 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 1: they do is really fuel the offshoring of American jobs. 59 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:19,240 Speaker 2: So my hope, and I'm not sure why do I 60 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 2: feel a little like. 61 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:24,680 Speaker 1: Cautious going forward with this because I'm not sure I 62 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:27,840 Speaker 1: trust them. I mean, isn't it in their best interest 63 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 1: as well? I'm talking about China. The Communist Party isn't 64 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:33,840 Speaker 1: it in their best interest to follow through on some 65 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 1: of these things that were discussed over the. 66 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:40,080 Speaker 3: Weekend, Well, yes, it is. The reason is the Chinese 67 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:45,480 Speaker 3: economy is fundamentally unbalanced. Consumption accounts for something like thirty 68 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 3: eight thirty nine percent of China's gross domestic product. That 69 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:53,880 Speaker 3: is low by global standards, perhaps maybe even the lowest contribution. Now, 70 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:57,880 Speaker 3: Sijan Pain is developing a wartime economy. He wants to 71 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 3: export his way out of problems. Of fact, that's his 72 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 3: only solution, which means he needs the US. Now, the 73 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:07,160 Speaker 3: problem is that cijmping is building up a war machine 74 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:11,119 Speaker 3: which is configured to kill Americans, and so we might 75 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 3: have an interest in not trading with him in order 76 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:17,040 Speaker 3: to make sure he doesn't have the resources to go 77 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 3: build those ships and train the tanks and everything else 78 00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:23,040 Speaker 3: that he wants to use against us and our friends. 79 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:28,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, and that concerns me very much because when we 80 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:31,560 Speaker 1: talk about, first of all, their economy, it isn't it's 81 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:34,640 Speaker 1: not doing well. And in fact, how does the worker's 82 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 1: protest play into it? Because it takes a lot of 83 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:40,599 Speaker 1: hutzpot if you asked me to protest in China, right, So, 84 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:44,480 Speaker 1: how surprised was the CCP buy that, and did the 85 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:48,680 Speaker 1: protest actually persuade the party one way or another. 86 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:50,919 Speaker 2: Particularly where all of this is concerned. 87 00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:55,719 Speaker 3: I imagine that the worker protests across China and also 88 00:04:55,839 --> 00:04:59,120 Speaker 3: the bank protests because I think depositors are not being 89 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:01,039 Speaker 3: able to get their mon out of some of the 90 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:05,640 Speaker 3: smaller financial institutions. This must have had a factor in 91 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 3: the decisions of the Communist Party to talk to treasure 92 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:15,880 Speaker 3: Secretary Bessant and US Trade representative Career right now. These protests, actually, 93 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 3: these protests have been occurring even before Trump took the 94 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:22,400 Speaker 3: oath of office for a second term, but they've gotten 95 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:26,039 Speaker 3: worse because the tariffs have slammed China's exports sector, which 96 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 3: has been particularly hard hit for our last year and 97 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 3: a half. Maybe we're seeing that a lot of these 98 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:35,320 Speaker 3: factories don't have orders, but these tariffs have pushed some 99 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:37,800 Speaker 3: of these factories to the point of closure, and there 100 00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:40,960 Speaker 3: are closures across China, and they're more and more worker protests. 101 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:43,839 Speaker 3: As you point out, Yeah, I mean. 102 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:45,360 Speaker 1: When you think about it, I mean, yeah, we're talking 103 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:48,240 Speaker 1: about the Communist Chinese Party, but we're also talking about 104 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:51,080 Speaker 1: real people who are also being affected by it, not 105 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 1: because of anything we've done, obviously, but because of the 106 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:55,560 Speaker 1: way their government is run. 107 00:05:55,640 --> 00:05:57,320 Speaker 2: And that breaks my heart for them. 108 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 3: It does because the biggest victims of the Communist Party, 109 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 3: matter of fact, and most immediate victims are of course 110 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 3: the Chinese people, but there are a lot of other 111 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:12,520 Speaker 3: victims of the Communist Party, including American workers, because through 112 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:16,839 Speaker 3: these predatory practices, through ip theft, China has robbed the 113 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:21,120 Speaker 3: future of many Americans. You drive through the Rust Belt, 114 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 3: you drive through the South, there are a lot of 115 00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:27,720 Speaker 3: towns that have been devastated by the loss of factories 116 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:30,479 Speaker 3: to China, and that means when there's a loss of hope, 117 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 3: you see fentanyl. When you see fentanyl, there is death. 118 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:37,679 Speaker 3: China is responsible for the fentanyl gangs. And that's also 119 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:40,839 Speaker 3: a factor that President Trump is taken into account when 120 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 3: he set the trade policy. Because twenty percent of our 121 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:48,839 Speaker 3: thirty percent terriffs are were imposed this year because of fentanyl. 122 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:52,320 Speaker 1: That's right, and one of the things and they have, 123 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:55,240 Speaker 1: but they didn't make anything. There's nothing conclusive that came 124 00:06:55,279 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 1: out of these talks where fentanyl is concerned. They said 125 00:06:58,200 --> 00:07:00,680 Speaker 1: that they're going to take that the US and China 126 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:04,080 Speaker 1: will take aggressive actions to stem the flow of fentanyl 127 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:09,120 Speaker 1: and other precursors from China to ilictit drug producers in 128 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 1: North America. So but there's nothing substantial here just yet 129 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:15,440 Speaker 1: in terms of what actions they are going to take 130 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:20,440 Speaker 1: and with those aggressive, aggressive accent actions might actually produce yes. 131 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:23,280 Speaker 3: And let's remember this is cagym Ping who promised in 132 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:26,520 Speaker 3: twenty twenty three to President Biden to stop the flow 133 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 3: of precursors across the Pacific. This is the Segimping in 134 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:33,520 Speaker 3: twenty eighteen that made the same essentially the same promise 135 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 3: through President Trump. And it's the same seagem thing who 136 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:40,560 Speaker 3: made the same promise to President Obama in twenty sixteen. 137 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:44,480 Speaker 3: So we've had a lot of promises from China about fentanyl. 138 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:48,200 Speaker 3: We've only seen the fentanyl trade increase and there's only 139 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:50,640 Speaker 3: been a stop where there's been a reduction in the 140 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:52,600 Speaker 3: flow of fentanyl, not because of what the Chinese have 141 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:56,080 Speaker 3: been doing, but because President Trump closed down the southern 142 00:07:56,080 --> 00:07:58,560 Speaker 3: border and he went after a candidate where there was 143 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 3: a lot of fentanyl coming in from as well. 144 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:04,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not going to hold my breath on that one, 145 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:06,200 Speaker 1: but it'll be interesting to see. I mean, we are 146 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:09,840 Speaker 1: talking about different leadership here, so that should help us 147 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 1: and these efforts for sure. And also I just want 148 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 1: to comment to you mentioned how we want to encourage 149 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:19,600 Speaker 1: our you know, domestic production here and strengthen our supply chains. 150 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:22,040 Speaker 1: And I suppose that when they talk about retaining that 151 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:25,480 Speaker 1: ten percent tariff during the period of pause, that that 152 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:30,240 Speaker 1: will help us. So instead of undercutting American workers, it 153 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:31,640 Speaker 1: would instead support them. 154 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, it's a thirty percent general tariff rate, but 155 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:37,960 Speaker 3: also we have additional tariffs on top of that road 156 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:38,920 Speaker 3: so for instance, well. 157 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:41,120 Speaker 2: Yes, thirty four pot yeah, you're right, yes, and. 158 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 3: We have the Section two thirty two tariffs, and those 159 00:08:44,920 --> 00:08:49,360 Speaker 3: uncertain goods raised that general thirty percent tariff rate to 160 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:50,480 Speaker 3: quite a high rate. 161 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:54,839 Speaker 1: You know, there's something that you mentioned on X and 162 00:08:54,880 --> 00:08:56,880 Speaker 1: by the way, we're talking to Gordon Chang and you 163 00:08:56,960 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 1: can find him on Exit's Gordon g Chang on X. 164 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:02,760 Speaker 1: But I think I saw this on AX. You said 165 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:06,480 Speaker 1: that while and Career are making soothing statements about the 166 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:10,240 Speaker 1: results of the trade talks, China's officials are issuing strident 167 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 1: and defiant words on Chinese language media. 168 00:09:14,040 --> 00:09:15,040 Speaker 2: That doesn't surprise me. 169 00:09:16,440 --> 00:09:21,800 Speaker 3: No, this was yesterday, right after the announcement that there 170 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 3: was going to be an announcement today, and we saw, 171 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:29,679 Speaker 3: you know, we saw our officials make conservatory statements, but 172 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:34,240 Speaker 3: Chinese officials are making very defiant ones to the Chinese. 173 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:41,040 Speaker 3: And I haven't seen anything since President Trump's conference today, 174 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:44,440 Speaker 3: but I'm sure we're going to see a whole group 175 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:48,680 Speaker 3: of a whole flew of new pronouncements from Beijing which 176 00:09:48,679 --> 00:09:52,440 Speaker 3: are probably as strident as the ones twenty four hours ago. 177 00:09:53,880 --> 00:09:57,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, that begs the question, why, mister Chang, why the 178 00:09:57,400 --> 00:10:00,960 Speaker 1: defiant words? I mean, they have a enemy that's that's 179 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:05,319 Speaker 1: taken a fall, they have workers that have been protesting, 180 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:08,439 Speaker 1: and yet they will, they will get on Chinese language 181 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:13,920 Speaker 1: media and have this defiant conversation for the good. I mean, 182 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:16,840 Speaker 1: like the only reason they're doing this is to somehow 183 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:21,000 Speaker 1: what for their own people, for the Chinese people? What 184 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:23,199 Speaker 1: is the goal here? What's the plan? I don't get it. 185 00:10:24,280 --> 00:10:28,840 Speaker 3: Yeah. For about a half decade, C. Jimping has been trying, 186 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:31,360 Speaker 3: has been saying to the Chinese people that China has 187 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:34,800 Speaker 3: already surpassed the US, that the US is in terminal decline, 188 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:38,880 Speaker 3: that China doesn't need the US except in very limited areas. 189 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:43,480 Speaker 3: So when China goes to a third party location such 190 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:46,400 Speaker 3: as Switzerland and negotiates with the US, they got to 191 00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:49,880 Speaker 3: come up with some sort of explanation, and their explanation 192 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:53,840 Speaker 3: has been, well, yeah, we're not going to bow down 193 00:10:53,840 --> 00:10:56,240 Speaker 3: to the Americans, which is a phrase that they often use, 194 00:10:56,840 --> 00:10:59,360 Speaker 3: and they're probably going to say that they got the 195 00:10:59,360 --> 00:11:02,600 Speaker 3: better of the deal, which they did in a sense, 196 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:07,720 Speaker 3: and they are going to make that case. That basically 197 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:12,800 Speaker 3: underlines Sijian Thing's authority and legitimacy, because if China can't 198 00:11:12,840 --> 00:11:16,800 Speaker 3: appear to need the US, it can't appear to be 199 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:19,480 Speaker 3: getting into pressure from President Trump, which is what the 200 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:23,120 Speaker 3: Chinese in a sense did, So they've got to be 201 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:24,959 Speaker 3: defiant in their propaganda. 202 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:29,040 Speaker 1: Well, you know, in China, I mean, let's face it. 203 00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:31,760 Speaker 1: I mean the truth is, nothing really has changed their 204 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:33,760 Speaker 1: goals and their mindset. I mean, they would like to 205 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 1: dominate as much as possible. And don't forget too that 206 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:40,600 Speaker 1: we've seen over recent years how they've been forming those 207 00:11:40,679 --> 00:11:44,400 Speaker 1: unholy alliances with countries like Russia and Iran. 208 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:45,800 Speaker 2: That's a fact. 209 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:49,320 Speaker 1: Is that going to change just because we're entering into 210 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:52,200 Speaker 1: this agreement where tariffs are concerned. 211 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:55,920 Speaker 3: No, it's not going to change. Sijian Thing has been 212 00:11:55,960 --> 00:11:59,880 Speaker 3: pushing the notion that China not only should control the world, 213 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:02,720 Speaker 3: should not only dominate the world, should not only exert 214 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:05,880 Speaker 3: hegemony over the world, but it should rule the world. 215 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:09,840 Speaker 3: He's been pushing this notion that Chinese rulers have the 216 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:13,000 Speaker 3: mandate of Heaven to rule what they call t Andcu. 217 00:12:13,240 --> 00:12:16,000 Speaker 3: We're all under heaven, and if we think it's just 218 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:20,200 Speaker 3: limited to planet Earth. Since twenty seventeen, Chinese officials have 219 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:22,400 Speaker 3: been making the case in public that the Moon and 220 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:26,120 Speaker 3: Mars should be considered sovereign Chinese territory, in other words, 221 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:30,680 Speaker 3: part of the People's republic. So yeah, it's ludicrous, but 222 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:33,640 Speaker 3: we can't ignore what these guys are saying because this 223 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:37,400 Speaker 3: is not normal competition. As the Bid administration said, this 224 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:42,199 Speaker 3: is an attempt to revolutionize the world by imposing worldwide 225 00:12:42,240 --> 00:12:45,560 Speaker 3: Chinese rule. And of course, we do not consider ourselves 226 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:48,439 Speaker 3: to be a colony of China, but China that they 227 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:52,360 Speaker 3: consider us to be subservient and a colony to the 228 00:12:52,400 --> 00:12:54,280 Speaker 3: greater Celestial Court in Beiji. 229 00:12:55,800 --> 00:12:58,720 Speaker 1: You know, I think this is just my opinion, because 230 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:00,800 Speaker 1: what do I know I'm not at on this, but 231 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:02,760 Speaker 1: it seems to me that they're like, yeah, okay, we're 232 00:13:02,760 --> 00:13:05,280 Speaker 1: gonna we'll go ahead with this, We're gonna work with you, 233 00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:09,839 Speaker 1: while behind the scenes they're still kind of preparing, as 234 00:13:09,880 --> 00:13:13,680 Speaker 1: you say in your book, for war and also to 235 00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:16,440 Speaker 1: sanction proof itself. So I think while both of these 236 00:13:16,480 --> 00:13:21,120 Speaker 1: things are true, for the time being, they may appear 237 00:13:21,200 --> 00:13:22,920 Speaker 1: to be working with us, and we only have like 238 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:25,360 Speaker 1: two minutes here for you to answer that, but really 239 00:13:25,440 --> 00:13:28,400 Speaker 1: they're still working some other things out that fallow more 240 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:30,679 Speaker 1: in line with their agenda that you just spoke of. 241 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:35,280 Speaker 3: Yeah. Absolutely, they believe that they're in an existential struggle 242 00:13:35,320 --> 00:13:37,640 Speaker 3: with the United States, and for us, it's not because 243 00:13:37,640 --> 00:13:39,960 Speaker 3: of anything we say or do, but because of who 244 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:43,199 Speaker 3: we are and insecure regime in Beijing is worried about 245 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:46,720 Speaker 3: the inspirational impact of America's values in form of governance 246 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:49,520 Speaker 3: on the Chinese people, which means we will never have 247 00:13:49,640 --> 00:13:52,680 Speaker 3: amicable relations with China as long as the Communist Party 248 00:13:52,760 --> 00:13:53,160 Speaker 3: rules it. 249 00:13:53,559 --> 00:13:55,920 Speaker 1: That's all right, thank you, and I have to let 250 00:13:55,920 --> 00:13:58,400 Speaker 1: you go right now. I'm still sorry. But Gordon Chang, 251 00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:01,600 Speaker 1: author of the Coming Collapse of China, also check him out. 252 00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:02,000 Speaker 2: Gordon G. 253 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:05,600 Speaker 1: Chang on X. Thank you mister Change for joining me today. 254 00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:06,760 Speaker 1: Very important subject. 255 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:08,680 Speaker 3: Thank you well, thank you Roch. 256 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Sean Hannity Show. 257 00:14:11,800 --> 00:14:12,520 Speaker 2: My name is Rose. 258 00:14:12,559 --> 00:14:14,920 Speaker 1: I'm going to say thank you to WJAS here in 259 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:17,920 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh for allowing me to use their studios, and to 260 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:21,560 Speaker 1: Greg and Darryl here who have just done a great 261 00:14:21,640 --> 00:14:24,240 Speaker 1: job getting me set up. And of course there's always Lynda, 262 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:26,880 Speaker 1: Ethan and Katie. So thanks to all of you. It's 263 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:28,760 Speaker 1: my pleasure to be sitting in for Sean today. I'll 264 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:31,280 Speaker 1: be doing it again on Friday, looking forward to that 265 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:31,880 Speaker 1: as well. 266 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:32,880 Speaker 2: And your phone calls. 267 00:14:32,920 --> 00:14:35,080 Speaker 1: The phone number here is eight hundred ninety four to 268 00:14:35,080 --> 00:14:40,120 Speaker 1: one Sean eight hundred ninety four one seven three two six. 269 00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:43,240 Speaker 1: On the phone is Jay from Delaware. Hey Jay, how 270 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:43,760 Speaker 1: are you doing? 271 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:45,760 Speaker 5: Good? 272 00:14:45,800 --> 00:14:49,120 Speaker 6: Afternoon? Doing well? A lot of things in the on 273 00:14:49,160 --> 00:14:51,360 Speaker 6: the headlines today that you know, hopefully we got some 274 00:14:51,400 --> 00:14:55,080 Speaker 6: good deals coming with China, and you know there's this, 275 00:14:55,240 --> 00:14:57,440 Speaker 6: you know, if everybody just let the man do his work, 276 00:14:58,080 --> 00:15:00,240 Speaker 6: I think we're all going to be happy with the result. 277 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:06,840 Speaker 1: We were the last time he did it, you know, yeah, right, yeah, 278 00:15:07,280 --> 00:15:09,560 Speaker 1: So you know, for days. 279 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:10,320 Speaker 7: It's just incredible. 280 00:15:10,400 --> 00:15:14,640 Speaker 6: I know he comes across a little bit krass. 281 00:15:14,360 --> 00:15:16,840 Speaker 7: If you will, But if if the if people just 282 00:15:16,920 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 7: let him do his work and let his cabin do 283 00:15:19,480 --> 00:15:22,800 Speaker 7: his work, I think they're gonna be really satisfy. You 284 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:25,680 Speaker 7: got the prescription drugs coming down, you got a possible 285 00:15:25,680 --> 00:15:28,680 Speaker 7: blockbuster deal with China that's going to steamroll into all 286 00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:33,000 Speaker 7: kinds of positive things for economy, border security. I mean, 287 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:36,680 Speaker 7: this is I've never seen anything like it. I hope 288 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:39,800 Speaker 7: you know your network's uh cover positive tonight on this. 289 00:15:40,360 --> 00:15:43,520 Speaker 1: Don't hold your don't hold your breath, Jay, come on, 290 00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:45,920 Speaker 1: you know you just reminded me of something though, And 291 00:15:45,960 --> 00:15:47,880 Speaker 1: there was something I didn't meant. I was talking about 292 00:15:47,880 --> 00:15:50,560 Speaker 1: the Federalist papers early on, and one of the things 293 00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:52,960 Speaker 1: I didn't mention was what was written in the papers 294 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:56,360 Speaker 1: about strong leadership and as it relates to a president. 295 00:15:56,760 --> 00:15:59,160 Speaker 1: One of the things that Alexander Hamilton said in those 296 00:15:59,200 --> 00:16:03,320 Speaker 1: papers is that energy in the executive is a leading 297 00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:06,640 Speaker 1: character in the definition of good government. It's essential to 298 00:16:06,680 --> 00:16:10,080 Speaker 1: the protection of the community against foreign attacks. But he 299 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:12,400 Speaker 1: also said this, and I think this is so telling. 300 00:16:12,640 --> 00:16:16,920 Speaker 1: He said, a feeble executive feeble. Remind you of anyone 301 00:16:17,240 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 1: four years four years? A feeble executive implies a feeble 302 00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:25,840 Speaker 1: execution of the government. A feeble execution is but another 303 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:31,040 Speaker 1: phrase for bad execution. And the government ill executed. Whatever 304 00:16:31,080 --> 00:16:34,040 Speaker 1: it may be in theory, must be in practice a 305 00:16:34,080 --> 00:16:37,760 Speaker 1: bad government. Can anyone say the Biden administration when we 306 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:42,240 Speaker 1: say feeble? Truer words, mister Hamilton, truer words. Jay, Thanks 307 00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 1: for that reminder. I wanted to bring that up. And 308 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:46,680 Speaker 1: thanks for your call today too. I appreciate it. Alan 309 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:49,200 Speaker 1: is calling from North Carolina. Hey, Alan, how are you? 310 00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:51,200 Speaker 3: Hey? 311 00:16:51,240 --> 00:16:51,800 Speaker 8: How are you doing? 312 00:16:51,880 --> 00:16:53,440 Speaker 2: Rose good? 313 00:16:53,880 --> 00:16:55,080 Speaker 5: Can you can you hear me? 314 00:16:55,120 --> 00:16:55,320 Speaker 9: Good? 315 00:16:55,880 --> 00:16:58,920 Speaker 8: You're doing a great job. I just wanted to bring 316 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:04,560 Speaker 8: up the point that here lately, with all of Trump's deportations, 317 00:17:04,600 --> 00:17:07,399 Speaker 8: they're wanting to cry out that these people are have 318 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:11,119 Speaker 8: the right to do process. And I think Obama was 319 00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:14,199 Speaker 8: called the deporter in chief, and I'm not sure of 320 00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:17,560 Speaker 8: the number, but Bill Clinton also deported millions of people. 321 00:17:18,280 --> 00:17:19,320 Speaker 5: And did they. 322 00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:22,800 Speaker 8: Either of those presidents, did they have due process for 323 00:17:22,840 --> 00:17:25,560 Speaker 8: any of the or hearings for any of the people 324 00:17:25,600 --> 00:17:26,400 Speaker 8: that they deported. 325 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:29,280 Speaker 1: Well, you bring up a good point because I saw 326 00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:31,879 Speaker 1: your name up there and description of what you wanted 327 00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:34,520 Speaker 1: to talk about. I did a quick search and in 328 00:17:34,640 --> 00:17:37,119 Speaker 1: one year alone, twenty thirteen, that's all the further I 329 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:40,399 Speaker 1: had time for. They're under Obama. There were four hundred 330 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:44,880 Speaker 1: and thirty eight, four hundred and twenty one Depoor did so. Yeah, 331 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:47,199 Speaker 1: I mean, you're absolutely right, no one. I mean I 332 00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:49,960 Speaker 1: think that he did actually get some criticism at the time, 333 00:17:50,200 --> 00:17:52,280 Speaker 1: not from anyone on the right, but I think there 334 00:17:52,320 --> 00:17:55,280 Speaker 1: were some that were concerned about that. But no, he 335 00:17:55,400 --> 00:17:59,520 Speaker 1: absolutely was doing that without the same criticisms that we're 336 00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:02,600 Speaker 1: getting or we hear, well, they're always going to find 337 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:05,680 Speaker 1: something wrong with Donald Trump. It's never going to end. 338 00:18:05,960 --> 00:18:08,040 Speaker 1: And you know, the thing that blows my mind, Alan 339 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:11,679 Speaker 1: is that we see such great success when when we 340 00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:15,080 Speaker 1: see what Doge is uncovered that alone, and taking that 341 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:17,680 Speaker 1: back to what I said in my monologue about overreach 342 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:23,359 Speaker 1: of the government and just you would think people would say, bravo, 343 00:18:23,640 --> 00:18:27,040 Speaker 1: bravo Donald Trump. I hate you, but bravo, that was 344 00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:31,679 Speaker 1: great because it's their money that's being misspent. And you know, 345 00:18:31,760 --> 00:18:34,760 Speaker 1: I have actually an interview that's up on my rumble 346 00:18:34,800 --> 00:18:37,760 Speaker 1: page under Rose Unplugged that I did with a woman 347 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:43,320 Speaker 1: who gave us some examples of the us AID misspending. 348 00:18:43,520 --> 00:18:46,680 Speaker 1: It was atrocious. It's absolutely atrocious. You might want to 349 00:18:46,720 --> 00:18:48,960 Speaker 1: check that out. But anyway, Alan, thank you for the call. 350 00:18:49,040 --> 00:18:52,640 Speaker 1: You're absolutely right about all of that. Don't hold your breath, though. 351 00:18:52,720 --> 00:18:54,359 Speaker 1: I don't think anyone's going to tell me did a 352 00:18:54,359 --> 00:18:58,040 Speaker 1: good job, even though they may secretly think they are 353 00:18:58,080 --> 00:19:00,760 Speaker 1: happy about some of the results of the good work 354 00:19:00,760 --> 00:19:08,120 Speaker 1: that he's done. John calling from Mississippi. Hey, John, Hello, Rose, Hello, 355 00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:08,879 Speaker 1: how are you. 356 00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:12,359 Speaker 3: I'm fine. I don't know. 357 00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:16,359 Speaker 9: But you said someone to kind of pop you up 358 00:19:16,520 --> 00:19:21,600 Speaker 9: and a news was too true, but you said it. 359 00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:25,280 Speaker 3: I'm sorry. 360 00:19:26,760 --> 00:19:28,840 Speaker 9: The way you said it really really made a difference 361 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:32,560 Speaker 9: for me, and that was that what makes the United 362 00:19:32,560 --> 00:19:36,200 Speaker 9: States great and unique was that these guys two hundred 363 00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:39,520 Speaker 9: years ago sat down and said, you know, the government 364 00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:44,400 Speaker 9: doesn't own us. That was a breakthrough in thinking, because 365 00:19:44,680 --> 00:19:48,720 Speaker 9: up until that point throughout human history, the government owned 366 00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:51,160 Speaker 9: the people, or at least that's what they wanted them 367 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:55,080 Speaker 9: to believe. But these guys had the moxie to say, no, 368 00:19:55,359 --> 00:19:57,240 Speaker 9: that isn't true, and we're going to put our lives 369 00:19:57,280 --> 00:19:59,920 Speaker 9: on the line for that. And I mean I've heard 370 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:03,080 Speaker 9: all that before, but it's never occurred to me quite 371 00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:07,720 Speaker 9: so clearly that that is what other nations hate about us, 372 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:11,200 Speaker 9: and it's what makes us great, thank. 373 00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:11,440 Speaker 2: You, John. 374 00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:14,760 Speaker 1: And it's what scares them too, the leaders of other nations, 375 00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:18,879 Speaker 1: particularly when you talk about communists or socialist nations, that 376 00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:21,679 Speaker 1: scares them because the power in the hands of the 377 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:26,600 Speaker 1: people man, that is that is something to be reckoned with. 378 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:30,320 Speaker 1: And they know that. But so do the progressives too. 379 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:33,040 Speaker 1: They don't want that. And the thing that I love 380 00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:36,600 Speaker 1: about our founding fathers is they believe because they came, John, 381 00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:42,120 Speaker 1: from a country, from a land that dictated to them 382 00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:45,240 Speaker 1: who they could be, what they could do, how they 383 00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:48,439 Speaker 1: needed to worship. But see these men, because I believe 384 00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:52,320 Speaker 1: of their faith, because of their faith definitely that they 385 00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:55,040 Speaker 1: understood that there was greatness in every one of us, 386 00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:57,640 Speaker 1: greatness because that is how God made us. And the 387 00:20:57,680 --> 00:21:02,400 Speaker 1: only thing that would unleash them greatness would be freedom. 388 00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:06,800 Speaker 1: And that's what everybody's afraid of, and they shouldn't be, 389 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:10,520 Speaker 1: because when you allow that freedom, and you allow that greatness, 390 00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:12,639 Speaker 1: and you allow us to work out that American dream, 391 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:18,640 Speaker 1: that is powerful, that is success and and tyrants all 392 00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:22,000 Speaker 1: throughout history, as you just mentioned, have wanted to squelch that. 393 00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:25,040 Speaker 1: They wanted to hold that back because then they would 394 00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:29,040 Speaker 1: not have the control that they've had. Our funding fathers 395 00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:34,800 Speaker 1: believed that God was the author of our freedom, not man, 396 00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:37,480 Speaker 1: because if it were man, John, then man can take 397 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:41,200 Speaker 1: it away. And they so much believed in this experiment, 398 00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:45,879 Speaker 1: this America, and they were they were It was perfect. 399 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:48,040 Speaker 1: I mean it really was in so many ways. Did 400 00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:49,879 Speaker 1: it have some flaws, yes, But I mean there is 401 00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:52,479 Speaker 1: no other government. Do you know anyone else that has 402 00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:55,880 Speaker 1: a constitution like ours? And you know why they don't, John, 403 00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:58,679 Speaker 1: because then it would be handing the power to the people, 404 00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:00,400 Speaker 1: and like you said, they can't have it. 405 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:01,159 Speaker 2: They can't. 406 00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:05,159 Speaker 1: God bless our founders. I just pray that there are 407 00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:08,919 Speaker 1: enough of us that continue to preserve this republic and 408 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:12,159 Speaker 1: understand because John, nobody is teaching our children this. 409 00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:15,440 Speaker 2: No one. I learned it, but they're not learning it. 410 00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:21,200 Speaker 2: Thank you, You're welcome. Sorry I went off on tangent, 411 00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:24,320 Speaker 2: but thank you for your call. Tom. 412 00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:27,119 Speaker 1: You're calling from Texas. You want to talk about China? 413 00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:31,120 Speaker 5: Yes, maam, thanks for taking my call. Rose. I wanted 414 00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:34,040 Speaker 5: to say that you know this ninety. First of all, 415 00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:37,160 Speaker 5: I really love what Trump is doing with these tariffs. 416 00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:40,640 Speaker 5: I love, you know, everything in general that he's doing 417 00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:43,840 Speaker 5: with it. But the ninety day pause with China is 418 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:46,720 Speaker 5: totally lopsided in China's favor because there's got to be 419 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:51,000 Speaker 5: a million containers cargo ships sitting on containers waiting me 420 00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:54,320 Speaker 5: checked into port that have been avoiding the tariffs for 421 00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:59,520 Speaker 5: who knows how long, and as soon as we reset 422 00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:02,720 Speaker 5: this ninety pause or sup sinety pause, it's all going 423 00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:05,200 Speaker 5: to get checked in. They're going to avoid the teriffs. Meanwhile, 424 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:07,680 Speaker 5: we probably have nothing on the water waiting to be 425 00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:12,080 Speaker 5: checked into China, and there's not enough time to manufacture 426 00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:15,960 Speaker 5: something schedule shipping, get it over to China unloaded in 427 00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:20,840 Speaker 5: ninety days. So it's totally totally imbalanced in China's favor 428 00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:26,000 Speaker 5: for this, for this ninety day pause. And if Ji 429 00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:30,840 Speaker 5: Jinping honors his word, then everything's fine. We can give 430 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:33,040 Speaker 5: him this pass. But if he doesn't, Trump has to 431 00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:36,160 Speaker 5: be punitive and hurt him even more than you, and 432 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:37,840 Speaker 5: he already has the ability to do. 433 00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:39,080 Speaker 2: Yeah. 434 00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:40,639 Speaker 1: I think you make a really good point. I do 435 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:44,800 Speaker 1: trust Trump to know what to do next. I do 436 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:47,480 Speaker 1: I didn't see any other president doing as much as 437 00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:50,480 Speaker 1: he did where this is concerned before him. But I 438 00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:53,800 Speaker 1: do have to believe that he's aware because he's a 439 00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:57,040 Speaker 1: pretty smart guy and he's a pretty strategic guy. So 440 00:23:57,440 --> 00:23:59,520 Speaker 1: I'm with you, though there's a part of me that 441 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:03,360 Speaker 1: just doesn't trust China and if what Gordon Chang is true, 442 00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:05,480 Speaker 1: and I have every reason to believe that it is, 443 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:08,760 Speaker 1: that they're already telling their people a different story, which 444 00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:11,200 Speaker 1: doesn't surprise me at all of China's concerned. 445 00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:13,600 Speaker 2: But Tom, thank you for your call. I appreciate it. 446 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:15,320 Speaker 5: Yes, man, thank you. 447 00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:18,159 Speaker 1: We'll be getting to more of your phone calls coming up. 448 00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:20,920 Speaker 1: It's eight hundred ninety four one Sean, that's eight hundred 449 00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:25,480 Speaker 1: nine four one seven three two six. You know, we 450 00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:27,760 Speaker 1: were talking about Trump, and you know, he just he 451 00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:30,080 Speaker 1: amazes me. Well, you know how he wants to call it. 452 00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:33,920 Speaker 1: It's now the Golf of America. Did you know that 453 00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:38,560 Speaker 1: Mexico is suing the technology company Google for adopting United 454 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:42,199 Speaker 1: States labeling of the Golf of Mexico Because if you 455 00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:45,400 Speaker 1: do a search, it does come up as Golf of America. 456 00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:50,000 Speaker 1: So now Mexico's suing Google. Trump, it just cracks me up. 457 00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:52,679 Speaker 1: He really does. I mean, there's no end to just 458 00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:55,359 Speaker 1: me just saying Wow, didn't see that one coming. Wow, 459 00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:58,200 Speaker 1: that was that was pretty good. He's amazing. So anyway, 460 00:24:58,400 --> 00:24:59,600 Speaker 1: this is a Sean Handedy show. 461 00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:00,400 Speaker 2: My name is Rose. 462 00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:04,560 Speaker 1: Please follow me on social media. It's roseannplugged dot com 463 00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:07,359 Speaker 1: or my ministry, which, by the way, I'm told by 464 00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:09,960 Speaker 1: the women that are working in the ministry that she 465 00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:12,840 Speaker 1: is called by Him. Dot Com has already started getting 466 00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:15,359 Speaker 1: prayer requests, so you can do that. You can leave 467 00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:17,680 Speaker 1: that with a team of women who are praying for you. 468 00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:20,879 Speaker 1: Rose unplugged and she is called by Him. We'll be 469 00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:23,840 Speaker 1: back with more of the Sean Hannity Show after this. 470 00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:38,760 Speaker 10: Are you sick of fake news, Well we've got you covered. 471 00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:42,760 Speaker 9: Hannedy watches here and has. 472 00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:44,360 Speaker 4: The news you need. 473 00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:55,400 Speaker 1: Sean Hannity, Welcome back to the Sean Hannity Show. 474 00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:56,359 Speaker 4: My name is Rose. 475 00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:59,480 Speaker 1: I'll be with you for another hour yet, so you know, 476 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:02,000 Speaker 1: I hope that's okay with you, but if it isn't, 477 00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:04,919 Speaker 1: too bad, I'm here. And I wanted to bring Linda 478 00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:07,800 Speaker 1: in because first of all, I thought Linda was Italian 479 00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:10,280 Speaker 1: by marriage, but now she tells me. She had this 480 00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:13,720 Speaker 1: like Italian what I ant or grandmother or what? 481 00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:16,399 Speaker 4: She was my grandma Evelyn Jana. 482 00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:20,440 Speaker 2: She was your Nona, she was, but. 483 00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:24,840 Speaker 10: We called her grandma. Yes, I had a mama, had 484 00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:26,840 Speaker 10: a grandma. She was my grandma. 485 00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:28,200 Speaker 4: But she you know, she. 486 00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:30,400 Speaker 10: Loved me, but she kicked the crap out everybody else. 487 00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:32,719 Speaker 10: She didn't take any prisoners. I think she was afraid 488 00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:34,760 Speaker 10: of you. That's why she didn't. She definitely was not 489 00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:37,439 Speaker 10: afraid of meid Man, she told me everything, I know, 490 00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:38,359 Speaker 10: as far as that goes. 491 00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:40,480 Speaker 4: I mean, she was man. 492 00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:43,360 Speaker 2: I can see the Italian in you. I really can't. 493 00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:46,640 Speaker 1: Oh, anyway, Linda, I watched on Netflix just last night 494 00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:49,200 Speaker 1: that movie called Nona's Oh my God. 495 00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:49,480 Speaker 4: Yep. 496 00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:51,640 Speaker 1: It is based on a true story, right, and it's 497 00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:55,520 Speaker 1: that it is this Maria, this restaurant that's in Stanton 498 00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:58,560 Speaker 1: Island or on Stanton Island. But they had all nonahs 499 00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:00,480 Speaker 1: cooking for them. So it's based on this true story. 500 00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:03,800 Speaker 1: But Lynn, I was watching and crying, So I don't know, 501 00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:05,639 Speaker 1: can you really say that you loved something if you 502 00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:06,680 Speaker 1: cried through the whole thing? 503 00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:09,440 Speaker 10: I mean, yeah, you know, I lived through four years 504 00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:11,640 Speaker 10: of Joe Biden I love America, but I cried every day. 505 00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:13,760 Speaker 4: So I love America, but I cried. I got through it. 506 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:16,760 Speaker 4: It was fine. You know, it was painful to watch. 507 00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:21,720 Speaker 10: That was painful, but you know, Nona's looks amazing. Obviously, 508 00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:24,399 Speaker 10: Staten Island. My husband's from Stanton Island. I lived on 509 00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:28,760 Speaker 10: Staten Island in Sunnyside and my we still have family 510 00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:31,000 Speaker 10: in Staten Island. And he literally said to me the 511 00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:33,080 Speaker 10: other day, he was like, oh, we got to watch 512 00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:34,119 Speaker 10: this movie, and I said, what is it? 513 00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:34,679 Speaker 4: He goes, It's a. 514 00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:36,639 Speaker 10: Lot of town on Netflix, and Vince One's in it. 515 00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:39,560 Speaker 10: We love Vince One. I saw Susan Sarandon's in it. 516 00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:42,240 Speaker 4: I hate her. She's a liberal lunatic, so she can 517 00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:45,080 Speaker 4: take it, you know. And then where the Sun Don't Shine. 518 00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:46,720 Speaker 2: But I love it. She was fabulous. 519 00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:47,000 Speaker 7: Though. 520 00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:48,880 Speaker 4: They love Loreene Brocco. 521 00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:50,760 Speaker 2: Yeah she's a doll. 522 00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:52,440 Speaker 1: But you know, if they were talking about it made 523 00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:55,359 Speaker 1: me think of Sunday dinners with my grandmother. And it 524 00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:58,080 Speaker 1: was just such a production because you know, we didn't 525 00:27:58,119 --> 00:27:59,879 Speaker 1: just have like meat and potatoes and maybe a v 526 00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:02,919 Speaker 1: no no no where she's all the pizza, then the 527 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:05,800 Speaker 1: pots that all homemade then there was chicken katcha torri. 528 00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:09,800 Speaker 1: Then there were the cheese is always wine, lots of cookies, 529 00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:13,159 Speaker 1: the nots, the pizzales. And I just cried because I 530 00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:15,439 Speaker 1: missed those days, Linda, I missed those days. 531 00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:17,680 Speaker 2: I really do. Did you know those things? 532 00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:18,560 Speaker 5: We? 533 00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:22,560 Speaker 10: You know, true true Italians make big Sunday dinners. You know, 534 00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:25,800 Speaker 10: like Lauren who you know who married my brother. Her 535 00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:28,359 Speaker 10: family still does Sunday dinners and we try to do 536 00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:31,080 Speaker 10: it with our family. I think the difference between the 537 00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:33,439 Speaker 10: families of Yester and the families of today is we 538 00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:36,600 Speaker 10: just don't make that time for family. That's the biggest problem, 539 00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:39,240 Speaker 10: right which a lot of times we live in different places, 540 00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:41,440 Speaker 10: different states, you know, what have you, and it's very 541 00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:44,200 Speaker 10: very difficult. I personally feel like, you know, like with 542 00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:46,640 Speaker 10: our kids, you know, when we're at the table, we're 543 00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:49,200 Speaker 10: having dinner, whatever it is, there's no phones, the TV's 544 00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:52,280 Speaker 10: are off. We'll play music, but that's about it. But 545 00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:54,960 Speaker 10: we're you know, we're definitely engaged in the dinner, in 546 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:58,640 Speaker 10: hearing about each other's days. That's what's missing in today's families. 547 00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:00,840 Speaker 10: They just don't have that. And that's why you're right, 548 00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:03,080 Speaker 10: this crap happens with their kids. They're like, oh, I 549 00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:04,560 Speaker 10: had no idea this was going on. I'm like, yeah, 550 00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:06,160 Speaker 10: because you were asleep at the switch. You were watching 551 00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:08,360 Speaker 10: what was going on on X or Instagram or the 552 00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:10,680 Speaker 10: parents are as bad as the kids, you know it 553 00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:14,560 Speaker 10: really are to get off the devices and back into reality. 554 00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:19,080 Speaker 10: It's very interesting when you're engaged. Get off your devices. 555 00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:22,840 Speaker 2: I love that. But there, I don't know how much 556 00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:23,840 Speaker 2: time we have, bet real quick. 557 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:27,520 Speaker 1: There was a story about butter that Anthony and you've 558 00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:30,400 Speaker 1: disagreed on, and I actually, did. 559 00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:33,200 Speaker 2: You remember do you keep does Anthony like his butter 560 00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:35,560 Speaker 2: on the counter or in the refrigera. 561 00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:38,720 Speaker 10: They like their butter and the refrigerator, And I keep 562 00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:42,520 Speaker 10: my butter on the counter where it belongs because nobody 563 00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:43,040 Speaker 10: old butter. 564 00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:45,880 Speaker 2: I don't know why I just thought of that right now. 565 00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:46,320 Speaker 2: I'm with you. 566 00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:47,760 Speaker 4: I like, we want to hear what you think. 567 00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:50,080 Speaker 10: So you got to call in eight hundred nine four seawan, 568 00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:52,440 Speaker 10: that's eight hundred and ninety four one seven three two six. 569 00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:53,680 Speaker 4: Let us know where what you think? 570 00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:54,680 Speaker 2: Where do you keep your butter? 571 00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:56,640 Speaker 4: You keep it on the counter, keep it in the fridge, 572 00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:58,120 Speaker 4: inquiring mine pass it? 573 00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:01,200 Speaker 1: And that butter can stay on the counter for ages. 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