WEBVTT - Keith Sweat 0:00:01.920 --> 0:00:13.800 R and B Money. Thanks, we are the authorities. 0:00:15.560 --> 0:00:16.040 R and B. 0:00:17.440 --> 0:00:21.640 I'm Jay Valentine and this is the R and B 0:00:21.760 --> 0:00:22.919 Money Podcast. 0:00:23.079 --> 0:00:26.520 I know you see the marble and all the cool shit. 0:00:27.120 --> 0:00:32.760 That means I am at a very very special residence 0:00:33.720 --> 0:00:36.400 because you know, we couldn't shoot this in those studio 0:00:37.159 --> 0:00:38.720 you know, I had to get on the highways and 0:00:38.800 --> 0:00:41.800 the byways to come see my player, pot the man. 0:00:42.040 --> 0:00:42.520 You know what. 0:00:43.560 --> 0:00:45.720 I would usually do some intro where I'm talking about 0:00:45.720 --> 0:00:50.240 all the platinum records of platinum status that is in, 0:00:50.360 --> 0:00:53.400 all of the accomplishments and all the cool shit. But 0:00:53.520 --> 0:00:56.160 I want to get straight to it because this is 0:00:56.240 --> 0:00:59.639 my real brother in real life. I'm talking about call 0:00:59.760 --> 0:01:01.640 me at six in the morning because I'm on the 0:01:01.640 --> 0:01:02.680 West coast and he's not. 0:01:04.520 --> 0:01:09.200 Talking shit every morning. He know what, he called me, 0:01:09.240 --> 0:01:09.720 I pick up. 0:01:09.760 --> 0:01:14.000 So I'm gonna get to it, Ladies and gentlemen, the amazing, 0:01:14.680 --> 0:01:19.160 the legendary, the icon himself, Keith Sweat. 0:01:21.840 --> 0:01:22.560 What's up, Jay? 0:01:23.840 --> 0:01:24.320 What's up? 0:01:24.480 --> 0:01:25.000 Long time? 0:01:25.040 --> 0:01:26.119 No get me on the show? 0:01:27.760 --> 0:01:32.400 Exactly, yes, long time not getting you on the show. 0:01:32.440 --> 0:01:34.000 But you you know what, I'm not bringing none of 0:01:34.000 --> 0:01:36.160 that up, man, because you're here. I know you didn't 0:01:36.160 --> 0:01:38.160 cancel some other you know what I mean. I'm pretty 0:01:38.160 --> 0:01:39.360 sure you had some other shit to do. 0:01:39.440 --> 0:01:41.960 But yeah, you fuck with your player pocket. 0:01:42.640 --> 0:01:43.240 You're my man. 0:01:43.360 --> 0:01:45.880 So I you know, we talked about it. I said, Yo, 0:01:46.240 --> 0:01:49.080 I have to do the show because I'm always running, running, 0:01:49.120 --> 0:01:51.480 running me like, Man, you're gonna do the show? Yeah, 0:01:51.560 --> 0:01:54.320 And I said, man, I'm running, running, running, So I said, man, 0:01:54.440 --> 0:01:58.000 let me. I'm running out of town tomorrow. So I said, man, 0:01:58.080 --> 0:02:00.000 let me get it. Let me knock it out because 0:02:00.120 --> 0:02:03.440 I appreciate you. You won't be screaming on me, and 0:02:03.520 --> 0:02:04.360 said Matt Sweat. 0:02:04.400 --> 0:02:05.240 But you told me. 0:02:05.720 --> 0:02:06.480 You know what I'm saying. 0:02:06.520 --> 0:02:09.520 So you know we come from a certain cloth. You 0:02:09.600 --> 0:02:13.880 know that you're right. You tell me something, I'll hold 0:02:13.880 --> 0:02:16.040 you to it. I tell you something, You're gonna hold 0:02:16.080 --> 0:02:17.800 me to it. And that's why our friendship is with 0:02:17.840 --> 0:02:18.520 the way it is. 0:02:18.400 --> 0:02:20.800 It's always gonna be that. Appreciate that, man for sure. 0:02:20.880 --> 0:02:23.840 Man, let's get to it. Man, let's look, let's get 0:02:23.880 --> 0:02:26.280 to Harlem, okay, because you know, I know I know 0:02:26.320 --> 0:02:26.800 how you are. 0:02:26.800 --> 0:02:27.200 I know you. 0:02:27.320 --> 0:02:29.600 I know you were Harlem, not on your sleep, in 0:02:29.639 --> 0:02:32.160 your heart, and you know you and I have always 0:02:32.160 --> 0:02:34.440 talked about that and you know, our shared experiences of 0:02:34.480 --> 0:02:36.320 where we come from. 0:02:36.560 --> 0:02:39.240 How was how was Keith in Harlem Man coming up? 0:02:39.480 --> 0:02:41.560 I mean I was, you know, a young kid, you know, 0:02:41.600 --> 0:02:44.440 trying to figure it out like everybody else. And you know, 0:02:44.480 --> 0:02:46.200 when you grow up in the hood, you try to 0:02:46.280 --> 0:02:48.480 just figure it out, you know. Yeah, my mother raised 0:02:48.520 --> 0:02:52.000 five kids in the project by herself, so I was 0:02:52.000 --> 0:02:57.680 the youngest of the boys. So but I took the 0:02:57.720 --> 0:02:59.960 approach that I wanted to take care of the family. 0:03:00.200 --> 0:03:02.880 So keep growing up in Harlem was you know, I 0:03:02.919 --> 0:03:06.720 got into my little little mischief things and uh, you know, 0:03:06.960 --> 0:03:09.920 I had to figure out what I wanted to be 0:03:10.000 --> 0:03:11.880 in life and what I wanted to be. That I 0:03:11.919 --> 0:03:13.680 want to be a gangster that I want to be, 0:03:14.480 --> 0:03:16.480 you know what I'm saying, a nice kid, whatever I 0:03:16.480 --> 0:03:18.000 wanted to be. So I had to figure all of 0:03:18.040 --> 0:03:21.760 that out, you know what I'm saying. So I did 0:03:21.800 --> 0:03:24.480 figure it out, you know, I mean, I you know, 0:03:24.560 --> 0:03:25.440 I got myself in. 0:03:25.400 --> 0:03:26.080 A little trouble. 0:03:26.240 --> 0:03:28.840 And the trouble that I got myself in, which you 0:03:28.840 --> 0:03:32.079 know I talk about that in my documentary, is something 0:03:32.160 --> 0:03:34.920 that you know, kind of straightened me up. 0:03:35.560 --> 0:03:37.200 And made me move the right way. 0:03:37.320 --> 0:03:40.040 How did you find your voice or did you? Were 0:03:40.080 --> 0:03:41.400 you always singing as a kid. 0:03:41.960 --> 0:03:44.560 As a kid, I always watched you know, I watched 0:03:44.600 --> 0:03:48.600 all the shows, soul training, all the different type of shows. 0:03:48.640 --> 0:03:49.280 I watched them. 0:03:49.280 --> 0:03:51.600 So you know, I watched the Jacksons and all the 0:03:51.640 --> 0:03:54.920 people growing up, and you know I used to imitate 0:03:55.400 --> 0:03:57.480 a lot of those young acts. 0:03:57.520 --> 0:03:59.680 And you know when I realized, like. 0:03:59.680 --> 0:04:03.440 I say, I was singing out the project window, and 0:04:03.840 --> 0:04:07.200 you know, to some girls that because I used to 0:04:07.280 --> 0:04:09.040 live on the third floor in the project, so I 0:04:09.120 --> 0:04:11.000 used to be singing out the window. You're not put 0:04:11.040 --> 0:04:13.440 on the dead fhonded reggit and be singing out the 0:04:13.480 --> 0:04:15.680 window and go who you. 0:04:15.640 --> 0:04:18.000 Know you saw that reaction earlier. And then my mama 0:04:18.080 --> 0:04:18.400 came home. 0:04:18.440 --> 0:04:20.120 Boy, if I hear you singing out the window again, 0:04:20.120 --> 0:04:22.599 I'm whip your my eye. 0:04:22.800 --> 0:04:25.640 So that's how, that's what that how it all started. 0:04:25.680 --> 0:04:29.560 Actually, yeah, how do you go from singing out the 0:04:29.560 --> 0:04:34.719 project window knowing you got a voice to going to 0:04:34.839 --> 0:04:35.480 Wall Street? 0:04:35.480 --> 0:04:35.680 Though? 0:04:36.560 --> 0:04:39.400 Well, you know, I mean like in life, you know, 0:04:40.279 --> 0:04:42.799 in which you know a lot of your young brothers 0:04:42.839 --> 0:04:46.280 and sisters need to take he but the heat of this, uh, 0:04:47.160 --> 0:04:49.400 you know, my attitude was, you know, you have to 0:04:50.320 --> 0:04:53.760 also have other things that you're doing just in case 0:04:53.800 --> 0:04:56.920 the things you desired don't work out, you know, which 0:04:56.960 --> 0:04:57.440 I try. 0:04:57.279 --> 0:04:58.239 To teach my sons. 0:04:58.240 --> 0:05:01.560 You know, Hey, you have to wear more in one hat, right. 0:05:01.760 --> 0:05:05.560 So if regardless of what your dreams might be, that 0:05:05.560 --> 0:05:07.839 don't mean you're going to accomplish your dreams. 0:05:08.200 --> 0:05:10.760 So were you day trading like you were? Literally? I 0:05:10.800 --> 0:05:11.400 was really? 0:05:11.640 --> 0:05:15.479 I mean I started with Potential Bach and in the 0:05:15.560 --> 0:05:18.040 stock room working with the potential base. 0:05:18.360 --> 0:05:22.560 Then I moved up the paint to pain Webber. 0:05:22.320 --> 0:05:26.080 Right, and h I met this guy who definitely took 0:05:26.080 --> 0:05:29.400 an interest in me name Clyde Burrows. I still remember 0:05:29.400 --> 0:05:33.200 his name, Blackbroker, and he took me under his wings, 0:05:33.240 --> 0:05:35.320 and that's how it all started with me. 0:05:35.760 --> 0:05:37.520 On on on full World Trade Center. 0:05:37.520 --> 0:05:40.200 But I started with Paine Webber Potential Bach and then 0:05:40.240 --> 0:05:42.200 went to Paint Webber and that's how that all started. 0:05:42.279 --> 0:05:44.839 Are you doing music at the same time you going 0:05:44.839 --> 0:05:45.360 to work? Though? 0:05:45.560 --> 0:05:47.719 At the same time I was doing with this group 0:05:47.760 --> 0:05:51.640 called Jamila Okay, and we were doing the Chitlin circuit 0:05:51.680 --> 0:05:54.760 around the city. We would do places like the Mark 0:05:54.839 --> 0:06:03.640 four Smallest Paradise, the Cellar staurant, which Brad Johnson owned it, 0:06:03.720 --> 0:06:06.600 you know what I'm saying, and his father, and so 0:06:06.640 --> 0:06:08.560 I would do the little clubs around it. 0:06:08.560 --> 0:06:09.960 It's called the Chitlin Circuit. 0:06:10.400 --> 0:06:12.720 So I was doing the little clubs around that area, 0:06:13.400 --> 0:06:17.120 and and pretty much that's what I was doing why 0:06:17.279 --> 0:06:21.160 I was on Wall Street and then you know, because 0:06:21.160 --> 0:06:24.280 I had the real passion to do music. Yeah, that's 0:06:24.320 --> 0:06:27.440 what I was doing on my on the time that 0:06:27.480 --> 0:06:28.320 I was off of work. 0:06:28.880 --> 0:06:32.040 Wow, so is this funding it for you? Though? Are 0:06:32.040 --> 0:06:33.960 you like this is working? 0:06:34.000 --> 0:06:38.159 So I can well, well, doing doing the clubs was 0:06:38.200 --> 0:06:40.520 more for more entertainment and. 0:06:40.520 --> 0:06:42.280 Driving because you weren't really making no money doing that. 0:06:42.360 --> 0:06:44.680 No, No, I was making like he would three through 0:06:44.800 --> 0:06:46.800 three sets in the club and come up and do 0:06:46.880 --> 0:06:49.800 one hundred dollars back in them. 0:06:49.760 --> 0:06:52.120 Days, so thirty three dollars a set, so. 0:06:52.520 --> 0:06:54.880 Basically or maybe two hundred dollars something like that. But 0:06:55.720 --> 0:06:57.800 that's when you knew you loved doing what you do, right, 0:06:58.440 --> 0:07:00.599 you know, because I didn't get into the game for 0:07:00.640 --> 0:07:02.479 the money. I got into the game because I loved 0:07:02.480 --> 0:07:05.680 doing what I loved singing. I love being on stage. 0:07:05.680 --> 0:07:07.479 It had nothing to do with the money. You know, 0:07:07.560 --> 0:07:10.560 the money just came, but because of your passion. 0:07:10.720 --> 0:07:11.240 Because of the. 0:07:11.200 --> 0:07:14.840 Passion, right, how long were you in the group before 0:07:14.880 --> 0:07:16.800 you decide you want to go on your solo path? 0:07:17.160 --> 0:07:18.760 Well, what happened is I was in the group of 0:07:18.840 --> 0:07:20.400 you know, I had probably been in the group for 0:07:20.800 --> 0:07:23.800 a couple of years, and you know they had you know, 0:07:24.080 --> 0:07:26.960 during the time, we had another guy named Peter DaCosta 0:07:27.800 --> 0:07:29.760 who was a single with me. 0:07:29.840 --> 0:07:32.520 He was a light skinned, pretty boy like you you know, 0:07:34.840 --> 0:07:37.160 he was the Billy D Williams, like the other man. 0:07:37.240 --> 0:07:40.200 You got to have a Bill D. So you know, 0:07:40.240 --> 0:07:40.760 he was he. 0:07:40.760 --> 0:07:43.960 Was the one, you know, you know what I'm saying. 0:07:44.000 --> 0:07:46.840 You know, you know, you know during them days, you 0:07:46.880 --> 0:07:49.400 know that was that was the look, you know, trying 0:07:49.400 --> 0:07:52.400 to say so, you know, he was the lead. So 0:07:53.160 --> 0:07:56.720 I wouldn't you know, they wanted me to just make 0:07:57.160 --> 0:08:00.520 the group you know, one hundred percent, and he's like, yo, 0:08:00.680 --> 0:08:03.160 you need to quit. Don't what you're doing? Had come 0:08:03.240 --> 0:08:06.080 to just do you know if you really want to 0:08:06.080 --> 0:08:07.320 do mere talking about. 0:08:07.160 --> 0:08:10.240 Get off the get off the stock market. Yeah, just 0:08:10.280 --> 0:08:11.440 do that, I say, hold. 0:08:11.200 --> 0:08:13.880 Away to the minute, baby, No, no, that though, that 0:08:13.960 --> 0:08:15.480 don't pay the bills, that don't. 0:08:15.200 --> 0:08:18.480 Work right, and are you making good money on the 0:08:18.520 --> 0:08:19.200 stock is yeah? 0:08:19.280 --> 0:08:21.840 Yeah, but and and but they wanted me. They felt 0:08:21.840 --> 0:08:27.080 like my overall commitment to the group was wasn't there. 0:08:27.360 --> 0:08:31.520 And then you know the person that owned Jamila and 0:08:31.560 --> 0:08:34.200 that was the name of the group. Uh, the bass 0:08:34.240 --> 0:08:37.199 player was the leader of the group, and his father 0:08:37.320 --> 0:08:38.000 managed the group. 0:08:38.760 --> 0:08:40.600 So you really you understand. 0:08:40.360 --> 0:08:43.040 How that goes. Everything was tied in, tied it in. 0:08:43.240 --> 0:08:48.520 So they decided, you know, yo, we decided you don't 0:08:48.559 --> 0:08:49.559 need to be with the group. 0:08:50.080 --> 0:08:52.360 You got kicked out. I got kicked out. Yeah, it's 0:08:52.400 --> 0:08:52.840 all good. 0:08:53.320 --> 0:08:56.400 So I got kicked out, and it devastated me to 0:08:56.440 --> 0:08:58.280 the point where because that was where I picked up 0:08:58.320 --> 0:09:01.600 the girls on the weekend. You know, that was your 0:09:01.640 --> 0:09:05.000 new project, that was my I knew, I knew what 0:09:05.040 --> 0:09:09.240 it was gonna be. Yeah, yeah, saying oh like that. 0:09:09.400 --> 0:09:11.760 So I think, you know, that's how you invite people 0:09:11.800 --> 0:09:15.520 to the club. Hey, hey, they come to the club, 0:09:16.640 --> 0:09:19.240 I'm singing like that type of thing, right, So they 0:09:19.320 --> 0:09:22.440 kicked me out the group. So when they kicked me 0:09:22.480 --> 0:09:26.400 out the group, I'm a person like this and everybody know. 0:09:26.440 --> 0:09:29.880 And I'm still like that to this day. Don't don't 0:09:29.960 --> 0:09:33.480 don't mess with me because I'm approval point. So I say, Yo, 0:09:33.520 --> 0:09:38.079 I'm approval point. I don't need you. I'm still gonna 0:09:38.120 --> 0:09:40.400 hit and it's gonna be bigger than you ever thought 0:09:40.440 --> 0:09:40.840 it would be. 0:09:41.000 --> 0:09:41.880 And that's what happened. 0:09:42.200 --> 0:09:44.560 So once they kicked me out of the group, it's 0:09:44.640 --> 0:09:46.679 just that the gentleman just hit me and I just 0:09:46.720 --> 0:09:50.000 went hard on you know, the music side. 0:09:50.360 --> 0:09:52.439 Yeah, how long did it take you to get a 0:09:52.480 --> 0:09:52.959 record deal? 0:09:54.000 --> 0:09:54.600 About the Yeah? 0:09:54.640 --> 0:09:56.520 From getting kicked off the group about a yeah after 0:09:56.679 --> 0:09:58.280 And you had been in this group a couple of years, 0:09:58.800 --> 0:10:01.400 but as a soul artist, get year. Yeah, sometime is 0:10:01.520 --> 0:10:06.400 meant to be right. You get the record deal, you 0:10:06.440 --> 0:10:10.600 start working on the project. Could you feel it before 0:10:10.640 --> 0:10:11.280 you dropped? 0:10:11.360 --> 0:10:13.160 Make it last forever? Could you feel it like? Yo? 0:10:14.120 --> 0:10:17.720 Actually, I was working for Suitu Records to producing before 0:10:17.760 --> 0:10:20.880 I did my own project. I had I was with 0:10:21.600 --> 0:10:25.640 working with GQ. Okay, before I even you know drab 0:10:25.679 --> 0:10:29.760 my project. I had worked with Raheem and GQ and 0:10:29.880 --> 0:10:32.360 we did a song called My Mind Is Made Up. 0:10:32.400 --> 0:10:35.800 So I was working with the organization Tony Lopez and 0:10:35.840 --> 0:10:39.840 home with them before I even you know, after I 0:10:39.840 --> 0:10:43.240 I left your mil I started working with GQ and 0:10:43.520 --> 0:10:45.880 me and Raheem would write songs together like you know 0:10:45.960 --> 0:10:47.120 which is still on the end of that. 0:10:47.200 --> 0:10:49.920 Lucky seven and my mind is made up. 0:10:50.760 --> 0:10:54.240 So and then I was writing songs, and then I 0:10:54.320 --> 0:10:58.160 went down to Suture Records, and I was producing song 0:10:58.320 --> 0:11:01.680 for you know, Sutra Records, which his Mark Adam Levey, 0:11:02.080 --> 0:11:05.880 which was Mars Leevy's son. But the Fat Boys Wash 0:11:06.280 --> 0:11:08.840 put the record out by this girl. I wrote this 0:11:08.880 --> 0:11:12.000 record called All I Wanted my Baby by this girl 0:11:12.120 --> 0:11:15.840 named Erta Gilliam. And you know, that's where everything really 0:11:15.920 --> 0:11:18.520 kind of started, you know, because I started as a 0:11:18.520 --> 0:11:21.120 songwriter and producer because that's what I wanted to be. 0:11:21.600 --> 0:11:26.400 So that's the initial focus for you after after I, 0:11:26.520 --> 0:11:29.360 you know, even though I wanted was the soul er, 0:11:29.400 --> 0:11:31.719 I still was because my pen was crazy or it 0:11:31.840 --> 0:11:34.240 was crazy. I knew I had to pay crazy pin. 0:11:34.320 --> 0:11:36.760 I could write like who and come up with and 0:11:36.800 --> 0:11:38.600 then listen to it like, oh damn, I wrote that 0:11:38.600 --> 0:11:42.400 that shit hot. So that's what happened. So I started writing. 0:11:42.600 --> 0:11:46.800 So what made me decide to actually be an artist 0:11:46.880 --> 0:11:51.600 was when I took a song down there and Adam 0:11:51.679 --> 0:11:53.880 Levy told me it wasn't a hit. 0:11:54.200 --> 0:12:02.400 There they go again, somebody is yeah, i'ma proved my point. 0:12:02.600 --> 0:12:03.640 So that's what happened. 0:12:04.120 --> 0:12:06.160 And then I end up writing don't Stop Your Love 0:12:07.080 --> 0:12:10.160 and took it down there and he said that Don't 0:12:10.160 --> 0:12:13.320 Stop Your Love other than a hit because I took 0:12:13.520 --> 0:12:15.800 I actually wrote don't Stop Your Love for somebody else, 0:12:15.840 --> 0:12:18.120 but my voice was order that I met this girl 0:12:18.200 --> 0:12:21.320 named Judy Hudson, who was who knew, you know, Vincent. 0:12:21.880 --> 0:12:24.440 She said, oh my god, that record high. So when 0:12:24.440 --> 0:12:27.640 I finished Don't Stop Your Love, I took it to Judy, 0:12:27.760 --> 0:12:29.800 and Judy introduced me to Vincent. And that's how that 0:12:29.880 --> 0:12:31.760 whole thing started off. 0:12:31.800 --> 0:12:34.840 A record that someone else told you wasn't good, right, 0:12:35.200 --> 0:12:38.319 that you literally wrote as a demo, so you take 0:12:38.360 --> 0:12:38.920 it there. 0:12:39.200 --> 0:12:40.880 They it wasn't, so I said, I'm gonna do this 0:12:40.960 --> 0:12:41.680 join myself. 0:12:42.160 --> 0:12:45.319 That in itself just shows too though, that it's subjective. 0:12:45.440 --> 0:12:49.480 Music is subjective right certain ears. And I see a 0:12:49.520 --> 0:12:52.440 lot of artists that have just come across just at 0:12:52.480 --> 0:12:54.880 different times, and I'm I'll tell people when they send 0:12:54.880 --> 0:12:57.480 me music sometimes just like if I don't hear it, 0:12:57.480 --> 0:12:59.720 I'll tell you I don't hear it. But that don't 0:12:59.760 --> 0:13:03.800 mean it's yeah, I just don't hear it. Because I 0:13:03.800 --> 0:13:08.080 think sometimes people bank too heavy on one person's opinion, 0:13:08.240 --> 0:13:10.000 somebody that they see in a certain light. 0:13:10.120 --> 0:13:13.040 To me, hearing that part of it and seeing that, 0:13:13.120 --> 0:13:13.840 that's where. 0:13:13.760 --> 0:13:16.800 It all kicked off for you though, by literally just 0:13:16.840 --> 0:13:18.760 being like, no, I'm just not gonna take one opinion. 0:13:19.360 --> 0:13:21.520 I'm gonna go see what what else this record got. 0:13:22.280 --> 0:13:24.280 So when you take it to Vincent he hears it. 0:13:24.800 --> 0:13:29.439 I'm gonna actually give the love to Judy Hudson, okay, 0:13:29.840 --> 0:13:32.520 because she was the secret She was the one working 0:13:32.600 --> 0:13:35.920 at Suit Record. Yo, I need to take this record 0:13:35.920 --> 0:13:38.720 to somebody, this record hot. And she's the one that 0:13:38.760 --> 0:13:44.320 took it to Vincent, who was who had Chelsky Love Yeah, 0:13:44.360 --> 0:13:47.559 and he had he with hear him under. So yeah, 0:13:47.559 --> 0:13:49.400 I already I had had that record out. So when 0:13:49.400 --> 0:13:52.480 I took the Vincent, he said, yo, I won't put 0:13:52.480 --> 0:13:55.040 this record out. That record hot, you know. So that's 0:13:55.080 --> 0:13:57.560 how it already initially started for me. 0:13:57.760 --> 0:14:00.720 But at this point, you don't have the album done. 0:14:00.960 --> 0:14:03.320 No, At this point, no, I don't have anything done. 0:14:03.559 --> 0:14:04.600 They gave me. 0:14:04.679 --> 0:14:08.280 I got a deal with Electra Entertainment based on Don't 0:14:08.280 --> 0:14:11.160 Stop Your Love because they wanted to do a twelve 0:14:11.200 --> 0:14:15.439 inch situation with me. Yeah, because because you know, a 0:14:15.480 --> 0:14:17.199 lot of people had turned me down. 0:14:17.920 --> 0:14:19.000 They're like, all right, we'll try to sing it. 0:14:19.000 --> 0:14:19.400 Because ERL. 0:14:19.440 --> 0:14:23.000 Monroe had pretty pro records he turned me down. Yeah, 0:14:23.280 --> 0:14:24.040 so I didn't. 0:14:24.080 --> 0:14:26.040 I didn't know at a record label. 0:14:26.120 --> 0:14:29.040 Yeah, he had pretty pro records. He turned me down. 0:14:29.040 --> 0:14:30.960 A lot a few people turned me down, you know. 0:14:31.600 --> 0:14:35.880 So Vincent gave me the shot, and I wouldn't be 0:14:35.880 --> 0:14:37.680 the keys what I am today if it wasn't for 0:14:37.800 --> 0:14:41.120 that shot. Because what that shot, what he did was 0:14:41.200 --> 0:14:43.080 allow me to go to certain people and say, yo, 0:14:44.160 --> 0:14:48.240 I gotta deal. A lot of people think that I 0:14:48.320 --> 0:14:50.120 wanted was the one that got the deal. No, it 0:14:50.160 --> 0:14:52.640 was gonna Stop Your Love because that was the one 0:14:52.640 --> 0:14:57.000 that gave me to deal with Electra and then other stuff, 0:14:57.040 --> 0:14:59.960 you know, like I said, which we'll say for the documentary, 0:15:00.760 --> 0:15:04.920 was the thing that allowed me to come and do 0:15:05.000 --> 0:15:06.920 what I did and make. 0:15:06.760 --> 0:15:09.080 My and be known as the keys for that I 0:15:09.080 --> 0:15:09.640 am today. 0:15:10.480 --> 0:15:14.160 And you know, like I always tell people, you know, 0:15:14.200 --> 0:15:18.240 people always look at situations and say to themselves they 0:15:18.280 --> 0:15:20.880 get mad at the record company, right. I used to 0:15:20.880 --> 0:15:23.680 be mad at Bencent and Entertainment. And I was like, 0:15:23.760 --> 0:15:25.560 hold on, wait a minute. He was the only one 0:15:25.560 --> 0:15:28.600 that gave me the shot that nobody else gave a 0:15:28.640 --> 0:15:30.920 lot of people forget about that. And I said, yo, 0:15:31.200 --> 0:15:34.080 when everybody else turned me down, he was the one 0:15:34.120 --> 0:15:39.000 that took the gamble. And as you get older, you think. 0:15:38.880 --> 0:15:40.720 About that type of stuff, you say, hold on, wait 0:15:40.720 --> 0:15:41.840 a minute. 0:15:42.040 --> 0:15:43.960 If he hadn't gave me the shot to be who 0:15:44.000 --> 0:15:52.360 I am today, he invested his time and his money. 0:15:50.240 --> 0:15:53.560 And in the me. Yeah, and it was me. 0:15:54.400 --> 0:15:57.120 And at that time, when someone does that, you have 0:15:57.200 --> 0:15:58.680 to All you got to do is show and tell 0:15:58.840 --> 0:16:04.240 improve that you can do. Be you and do you. 0:16:04.240 --> 0:16:06.360 You know what I'm saying, Because everybody's not gonna invest 0:16:06.400 --> 0:16:09.000 in you. Everybody's not gonna take their money and say, yo, 0:16:09.080 --> 0:16:12.200 I'm gonna put my money. It's like it's like it's 0:16:12.240 --> 0:16:14.160 like when you go to the crap table and gamble, 0:16:14.240 --> 0:16:18.200 you put your money down and seven, you can seven 0:16:18.280 --> 0:16:18.960 or crap. 0:16:20.640 --> 0:16:24.280 And whatever you do. You know, if you seven, you're good. 0:16:24.480 --> 0:16:28.080 If you crap out, Hey, but you you got to 0:16:28.080 --> 0:16:29.200 be strong enough to just move on. 0:16:29.280 --> 0:16:29.640 Okay. 0:16:29.840 --> 0:16:32.480 I took that rest, I took that gammel, I moved 0:16:32.520 --> 0:16:35.400 on to an I'm moving on, Like everybody don't get 0:16:35.480 --> 0:16:36.800 that that kind of shot. 0:16:36.880 --> 0:16:38.680 You know, there's a whole lot of people. 0:16:39.080 --> 0:16:41.400 That would love out here, that would love to get 0:16:41.800 --> 0:16:44.720 someone to invest in the one time to show the 0:16:44.720 --> 0:16:45.920 world what they got to offer. 0:16:46.080 --> 0:16:48.480 Right, But I think that's that's super important that you 0:16:48.520 --> 0:16:52.520 bring that up, sweat that somebody that invests in you 0:16:52.560 --> 0:16:54.600 in the beginning. You can't forget. You can never forget that. 0:16:55.280 --> 0:16:58.080 And I think when it when it comes to the 0:16:58.120 --> 0:17:01.400 business side of it, right, an artist may get some 0:17:01.400 --> 0:17:02.880 success and forget that a time. 0:17:03.000 --> 0:17:05.119 Right And because you got so many people whispering in 0:17:05.160 --> 0:17:07.920 your hey boom boom boom, what what they should have done? 0:17:08.000 --> 0:17:09.440 Or what you what you could? 0:17:09.840 --> 0:17:13.120 But you for are you You're not You're forgetting about 0:17:13.160 --> 0:17:15.200 all the times you showed up and bagged that person. 0:17:15.280 --> 0:17:17.800 They just give me one opportunity, Just give me one 0:17:17.920 --> 0:17:20.720 when nobody else was doing it, you know what I'm saying. 0:17:21.160 --> 0:17:25.440 So I had to look at that where I was concerned, 0:17:26.080 --> 0:17:28.000 just like I look at that with the opportunity to 0:17:28.040 --> 0:17:28.240 I have for. 0:17:28.240 --> 0:17:29.800 Giving another talent. 0:17:30.440 --> 0:17:34.200 It's like know the business, learn the business, understanding the business, 0:17:34.200 --> 0:17:36.600 because there's so many people that don't know the being 0:17:36.600 --> 0:17:39.399 and don't understand the business. And then you know, somebody 0:17:39.520 --> 0:17:42.679 like myself and other people get blamed for them not 0:17:42.800 --> 0:17:45.840 knowing the business or understanding the business. Nine times at 0:17:45.840 --> 0:17:48.480 the tenant person to make getting money off their first album, right, 0:17:49.400 --> 0:17:52.520 because you end up paying back the record company for 0:17:52.720 --> 0:17:56.919 the investment because you haven't made no money for the company. 0:17:57.080 --> 0:18:00.800 So everything they put out is there, so they they 0:18:00.840 --> 0:18:02.800 got to recoup. They gotta be cooked. They money, right. 0:18:03.280 --> 0:18:06.520 So I was fortunate to make money off the first 0:18:06.520 --> 0:18:11.679 album because I wrote, Yeah, at least seven or eight 0:18:11.720 --> 0:18:13.119 of those songs on their first album. 0:18:13.200 --> 0:18:16.959 Then it hit. Then I'm a solo artist. 0:18:17.440 --> 0:18:17.760 I'm not. 0:18:19.000 --> 0:18:21.439 I don't have four or five people won't split my 0:18:21.560 --> 0:18:24.200 money with. So when they hit, I was able. 0:18:24.040 --> 0:18:26.000 To make money on the tour because Keith. 0:18:25.760 --> 0:18:35.840 Sweat tell me about when it hit. 0:18:35.880 --> 0:18:39.399 It tell me about like that the feeling because at 0:18:39.400 --> 0:18:42.159 this point you a few years in, you working a 0:18:42.200 --> 0:18:45.960 regular gig, and now you got a hit record and 0:18:46.040 --> 0:18:48.280 a hit album, like you come out the Gate with. 0:18:48.400 --> 0:18:50.840 A hit with a hit and so, and then up 0:18:50.920 --> 0:18:52.320 Michael Jackson out of number one. 0:18:52.640 --> 0:18:54.320 Come on, man, come on man. 0:18:54.920 --> 0:18:57.280 So I was when they did that. I was like, 0:18:57.359 --> 0:18:59.960 hold up on billboards. Yeah, I was like, hold on, 0:19:00.520 --> 0:19:02.360 I'm not an m J out of the number one 0:19:02.400 --> 0:19:06.200 spot on. So, and then I still didn't. I still 0:19:06.200 --> 0:19:07.639 wouldn't quit the stock market. 0:19:07.920 --> 0:19:09.760 Are you still working this whole time? Right? 0:19:10.440 --> 0:19:14.080 I didn't quit the stock market. Right then people started 0:19:14.119 --> 0:19:17.560 coming up to the to the to the Stock Exchange. 0:19:18.000 --> 0:19:20.080 Asked them before I said, you can't be up here. 0:19:20.480 --> 0:19:23.920 They was getting finding ways it on the elevator to 0:19:24.000 --> 0:19:27.919 come to the eighth floor where I was working at on. 0:19:27.840 --> 0:19:30.280 The on the change, crazy because I's a super fan 0:19:30.320 --> 0:19:31.840 back then Tonet. 0:19:32.200 --> 0:19:34.520 And then they would be like, you know, get I said, 0:19:34.560 --> 0:19:36.080 hold up, you're gonna get in trouble. You can't be 0:19:36.160 --> 0:19:37.439 up here. Hell you do it. 0:19:37.960 --> 0:19:41.080 So people would do that and then so that's how 0:19:41.119 --> 0:19:41.960 all that started. 0:19:41.960 --> 0:19:44.600 And then eventually Mark Siegel. 0:19:44.240 --> 0:19:47.159 Who was my first agent, but I see him, he 0:19:47.240 --> 0:19:50.119 came and he said, man, you got to go on 0:19:50.119 --> 0:19:52.720 the road and the O shit too hot right now, 0:19:52.880 --> 0:19:54.879 I mean people want to see you. You have to 0:19:55.080 --> 0:19:58.720 you can't and you have to because I was number 0:19:58.720 --> 0:20:03.000 one on Billboard at that point, but still working, right. 0:20:03.080 --> 0:20:05.640 I said, I ain't even there. I'm shit, I ain't. 0:20:05.520 --> 0:20:09.800 Even Are you investing the bread into the stock market? 0:20:09.840 --> 0:20:11.040 Then no, I'm not. 0:20:11.960 --> 0:20:14.439 I'm what I'm saying what I was in the stock market, 0:20:14.960 --> 0:20:17.520 and I was fine with my job, right, So you know, 0:20:17.560 --> 0:20:21.080 I've had about all these one hit wonders and all 0:20:21.160 --> 0:20:23.800 that shit. So I'm like, man, I'm not leaving this. 0:20:23.800 --> 0:20:26.800 This is in my cushion. This is where I am. 0:20:27.080 --> 0:20:29.200 And he said, nah, man, you don't understand. 0:20:29.359 --> 0:20:31.960 You're huge out here in the street. 0:20:32.800 --> 0:20:35.240 So he said, you know, man, I'll tell you what. 0:20:35.800 --> 0:20:38.840 So he gave me a big as advance, so you 0:20:39.040 --> 0:20:42.040 have to and that's what made you quit, right, No, 0:20:42.080 --> 0:20:43.440 but I took a lib of absence. 0:20:44.000 --> 0:20:46.360 He still didn't quit. I took a live of absence. 0:20:47.160 --> 0:20:50.920 So in your mind, in a sense, did you have 0:20:51.040 --> 0:20:54.600 as a would say, imposter syndrome, like a this ain't real? 0:20:55.600 --> 0:20:56.920 Yeah, I guess you could say that. 0:20:56.960 --> 0:20:59.199 In my mind, I'm like, yo, this is a dream, right, 0:20:59.240 --> 0:21:01.920 and when I wake up up, this ship ain't gonna 0:21:01.920 --> 0:21:04.840 be here. So I still had still had his mother 0:21:04.880 --> 0:21:09.520 from job. So basically all that was a dream. Because 0:21:09.600 --> 0:21:12.720 my first, my first check that I got, which was 0:21:12.720 --> 0:21:14.159 a lot of money, I went home and threw it 0:21:14.240 --> 0:21:16.359 up on the throw it in and throw it on 0:21:16.400 --> 0:21:17.560 the bed and jumped on the bed. 0:21:18.400 --> 0:21:19.840 You do the check or you do the cave because 0:21:19.960 --> 0:21:22.480 the cast you in cash, do it all on the 0:21:22.840 --> 0:21:27.240 jumped on the bed. How much was it that so 0:21:27.320 --> 0:21:32.439 it can't tell you what It was a lot, but 0:21:32.520 --> 0:21:34.880 I threw it all on the bed. I'm getting ready 0:21:34.920 --> 0:21:40.960 to dive into this money. Did you buy anything crazy? No? No, 0:21:41.119 --> 0:21:41.439 I was. 0:21:41.520 --> 0:21:42.520 Never a person that. 0:21:43.359 --> 0:21:46.840 I never was a person that, just like to this day, 0:21:47.520 --> 0:21:49.879 like just because everybody else got certain things, you know, 0:21:50.680 --> 0:21:54.479 I'm not a person even when like I don't know. 0:21:54.760 --> 0:21:56.880 I made sure my mom was good, I made sure 0:21:56.920 --> 0:21:59.320 my sisters was good. I mean, but I really didn't 0:21:59.320 --> 0:22:01.560 buy anything, you know what I'm saying. Bought a little 0:22:01.560 --> 0:22:04.879 townhouse and that was it. But as far as like 0:22:05.000 --> 0:22:08.560 going crazy and doing rams and all that, I ain't 0:22:08.840 --> 0:22:10.440 you shure that wasn't I mean? 0:22:10.680 --> 0:22:12.960 You say, to this day, as we were sitting in 0:22:12.960 --> 0:22:16.439 a marble room pretty much a marble house that you have, 0:22:17.040 --> 0:22:17.800 it's kind of crazy. 0:22:17.800 --> 0:22:18.080 Sweat. 0:22:18.080 --> 0:22:20.240 I'm just gonna put that out there. Well, that was crazy. 0:22:20.240 --> 0:22:22.880 I've never seen marble wall because it's thirty five years later, 0:22:22.920 --> 0:22:25.360 thirty some years. So I feel like I can do 0:22:25.400 --> 0:22:28.120 that thirty some year. But it's not borrowed. 0:22:29.240 --> 0:22:32.840 So okay, okay, speak on it that. 0:22:33.160 --> 0:22:36.240 Yes, yes, it's very well earned in a very long 0:22:36.280 --> 0:22:40.320 period of time. And when people are counting my money, 0:22:40.320 --> 0:22:42.479 they're not counting my accomplishments. 0:22:42.640 --> 0:22:43.000 Okay. 0:22:43.359 --> 0:22:50.000 I do movies, executive produced record I do my own tours, 0:22:51.320 --> 0:22:55.160 promote my some of them not I'm not just the artist, 0:22:55.200 --> 0:23:00.240 I'm the promoter. I know some of them, right, Candle line. 0:23:01.240 --> 0:23:03.640 Bag you know. You see I'm following suit. 0:23:03.600 --> 0:23:09.199 Like so you know real estate, you know. And this 0:23:09.320 --> 0:23:12.040 is not about me. It's about my legacy and my kids. 0:23:12.920 --> 0:23:15.600 So everything you see me do ain't got nothing to 0:23:15.600 --> 0:23:18.439 do with key sweat. It's about the foundation of my 0:23:18.600 --> 0:23:22.679 kids and their kids and their kids' kids. So this 0:23:22.840 --> 0:23:27.520 house is paid for, but where does it go if 0:23:27.520 --> 0:23:28.880 I'm not here to day tomorrow? 0:23:29.080 --> 0:23:30.280 Who does it go to? 0:23:30.280 --> 0:23:30.920 To the kids? 0:23:32.280 --> 0:23:35.480 So people don't understand. So when I do things, it's 0:23:35.560 --> 0:23:38.080 not like even me going on to and working today. 0:23:38.080 --> 0:23:40.160 It ain't got nothing to do with me. I've been 0:23:40.160 --> 0:23:43.640 blessed to have everything somebody could ever want. So when 0:23:43.920 --> 0:23:47.240 when it comes to me doing stuff, is to make 0:23:47.280 --> 0:23:50.400 sure they are good and their kids kids are good, 0:23:50.440 --> 0:23:53.040 and their kids kids kids are good. So you know, 0:23:53.119 --> 0:23:56.320 I changed the sweat name and made it a name 0:23:56.440 --> 0:24:00.800 that is it is, it's real, it's you know. Sometimes 0:24:01.160 --> 0:24:03.919 I tell people when you change sometime we have a 0:24:03.960 --> 0:24:06.360 curse on our name, and somebody in that family has 0:24:06.359 --> 0:24:11.080 to change the direction of the family and the name 0:24:11.200 --> 0:24:14.080 and the value of the name, and and and and 0:24:14.320 --> 0:24:17.160 make sure. And it's about where you live, and how 0:24:17.160 --> 0:24:20.119 will you treat other people when and those type of 0:24:20.119 --> 0:24:24.400 things like if I'm doing something i feel somebody got 0:24:24.400 --> 0:24:27.600 a crazy spirit, I won't let them in my house 0:24:27.840 --> 0:24:33.639 because I'm a firm believer that spirits will jump on you. 0:24:33.640 --> 0:24:35.800 You know what I'm saying, Bad spirits will jump on you. 0:24:35.880 --> 0:24:39.840 So I limit myself from the people that's around my 0:24:40.000 --> 0:24:42.560 kids and around me and whatever. You know what I'm saying, 0:24:42.600 --> 0:24:46.080 I'm very funny about it. If I feel like you 0:24:46.119 --> 0:24:48.200 know what I'm saying, you keep it from around you. 0:24:48.359 --> 0:24:50.800 You don't need to be around me. That type of 0:24:50.840 --> 0:24:51.480 thing and. 0:24:51.440 --> 0:24:53.440 You have you always been that way, always just sound 0:24:53.480 --> 0:24:54.960 like a learned thing for you over time. 0:24:55.000 --> 0:24:56.600 Well, I got a prayer mom. I always had a 0:24:56.640 --> 0:24:57.240 praying mom. 0:24:57.480 --> 0:25:01.240 So and everything I do and everything I've done and 0:25:01.280 --> 0:25:04.720 everything I do to this day is because of her 0:25:04.760 --> 0:25:07.800 prayers and it and my success don't have anything to 0:25:07.840 --> 0:25:09.159 do with me, and has I would a lot to 0:25:09.160 --> 0:25:12.560 do with me having a praying moment, and you know 0:25:13.160 --> 0:25:16.240 what was instilled in me, and I ain't got nothing 0:25:16.240 --> 0:25:21.720 to do with because I'm being blessed abundantly because of 0:25:21.880 --> 0:25:23.960 the things she's told me. 0:25:24.680 --> 0:25:25.560 I'm a giver. 0:25:26.359 --> 0:25:28.200 You know, you got people in the world that are given, 0:25:28.240 --> 0:25:30.040 and you got people in the world that have taken 0:25:30.080 --> 0:25:31.320 us correct. 0:25:31.800 --> 0:25:33.000 And I'm a giver. 0:25:33.600 --> 0:25:36.040 Some women, when I'm a get because I'm gonna give it, 0:25:36.400 --> 0:25:38.720 they look at it as being a trick. No, if 0:25:38.720 --> 0:25:42.560 you look like you're in a bad situation, I feel like, damn, 0:25:42.640 --> 0:25:44.080 you could do better for yourself. 0:25:45.320 --> 0:25:46.880 And I give. 0:25:47.000 --> 0:25:50.880 And I don't take that my kindness weak weakness, because 0:25:50.880 --> 0:25:52.400 it ain't got nothing to do with that jet Because 0:25:52.440 --> 0:25:55.359 just like I can give, I could take and I 0:25:55.359 --> 0:25:57.720 can move on. I don't have to have you and 0:25:57.800 --> 0:26:00.520 you don't have to have me, that's. 0:26:00.400 --> 0:26:01.200 The bottom line. 0:26:01.240 --> 0:26:05.879 But you know, in our society today and and the 0:26:05.920 --> 0:26:10.119 way things today with social media, like you got to 0:26:10.119 --> 0:26:11.680 actually sat where all the good girls at? 0:26:13.400 --> 0:26:15.360 Yeah? And I don't mean when I where the good 0:26:15.359 --> 0:26:15.880 people at? 0:26:15.920 --> 0:26:16.600 What the good people? 0:26:16.680 --> 0:26:19.040 And when I say and when I say the good girl, 0:26:19.080 --> 0:26:21.399 you don't have to do what I say when I 0:26:21.440 --> 0:26:24.600 say jump, I'm not talking about that. Just look in 0:26:24.600 --> 0:26:26.879 the mirror at yourself and am I a good person? 0:26:27.040 --> 0:26:31.040 Am I a good person? What's your values? What's your morals? Morals? 0:26:31.080 --> 0:26:33.760 What type of what will you do? 0:26:34.680 --> 0:26:36.520 And how will you do? What would what? 0:26:36.520 --> 0:26:38.800 What would you do to get over? 0:26:39.160 --> 0:26:40.880 Like if you will go. 0:26:40.880 --> 0:26:44.840 To the extreme, then something is wrong because for no 0:26:44.920 --> 0:26:46.800 amount of money, am I going to the extreme? 0:26:47.040 --> 0:26:47.240 Right? 0:26:47.760 --> 0:26:48.320 That's just me. 0:26:48.760 --> 0:26:51.680 Now, everybody's not like that. Yeah, no, I got you. 0:26:52.240 --> 0:26:55.040 Let's get into the records. Get into some of these records. 0:26:55.400 --> 0:26:59.520 Make your last forever. When you write a record like that, 0:26:59.720 --> 0:27:00.600 is it a first. 0:27:00.400 --> 0:27:00.920 Listen for you? 0:27:00.960 --> 0:27:03.119 Because as a songwriter, now now we're talking about the 0:27:03.160 --> 0:27:08.760 from the constructing of records because even that title, obviously 0:27:08.800 --> 0:27:11.280 we're still talking about it to this day. 0:27:11.320 --> 0:27:12.440 We're gonna talk about it forever. 0:27:12.480 --> 0:27:15.720 You literally put that out in the universe, making it 0:27:15.800 --> 0:27:16.320 last forever. 0:27:16.960 --> 0:27:18.679 Did you come up with the title first. 0:27:18.800 --> 0:27:21.760 Yeah, I think yeah, because I normally come up with 0:27:21.800 --> 0:27:24.280 the hook first and then build a song around the hook. 0:27:24.359 --> 0:27:26.960 Yeah, don't let our love in said, don't let our 0:27:27.040 --> 0:27:28.480 love in take it last? 0:27:28.480 --> 0:27:28.720 Fact. 0:27:28.840 --> 0:27:30.960 So and then I told people every time with somebody 0:27:31.000 --> 0:27:32.240 talk about it, I said, then I tell you I 0:27:32.280 --> 0:27:32.920 was gonna make it last. 0:27:32.960 --> 0:27:35.760 Fav I mean, and that's what that why you. 0:27:35.720 --> 0:27:37.880 Still you're still relevant, You're still doing it. I said, 0:27:37.880 --> 0:27:39.640 I told you I was gonna make it last fail. Yeah, 0:27:39.640 --> 0:27:42.639 he's spoken into existing so something. And I tell people 0:27:42.720 --> 0:27:44.320 be careful what you say, because some things you can 0:27:44.320 --> 0:27:45.399 speak into existence. 0:27:46.040 --> 0:27:46.639 Most things. 0:27:46.920 --> 0:27:50.639 I'm a firm believer in that as well, right, Yeah, yeah, No, 0:27:51.000 --> 0:27:54.280 I think artists should pay more attention to what they 0:27:54.359 --> 0:27:55.720 rap or sing about. 0:27:55.680 --> 0:27:57.480 Yeah, because it will come back to bite you in 0:27:57.480 --> 0:27:58.560 the ass. Yeah, want you. 0:27:58.920 --> 0:28:05.960 Yeah, Triple Plot the first album, change me baby, you 0:28:06.040 --> 0:28:06.760 know what man? 0:28:07.280 --> 0:28:07.679 Change me? 0:28:07.800 --> 0:28:10.000 All right? That's what I'm not gonna do. I ain't 0:28:10.000 --> 0:28:17.800 gonna that's that's not And these are physical copies. 0:28:17.840 --> 0:28:22.080 This is not These are not stream full trillion stream 0:28:22.160 --> 0:28:24.919 that add up to whatever the hell they add up to. 0:28:25.000 --> 0:28:27.840 This is actually people going to the store buying these 0:28:27.880 --> 0:28:32.200 records four to five million. Yeah, first album, out the gate, 0:28:32.359 --> 0:28:36.240 out the gate. Do you get right to the next 0:28:36.280 --> 0:28:40.440 project or do you renegotiate from a business standpoint after 0:28:40.480 --> 0:28:42.920 you sell that many records? I'm sure listen, we talked 0:28:42.920 --> 0:28:50.400 about it. The deal probably wasn't the best renegotiate. Yeah, definitely, because. 0:28:51.720 --> 0:28:56.680 First of all, people didn't understand, Like I didn't even 0:28:56.720 --> 0:28:57.160 know how. 0:28:57.040 --> 0:28:57.720 Dope I was. 0:28:58.520 --> 0:29:03.440 Hmm, knew I was good, okay, but I ain't know 0:29:03.480 --> 0:29:05.920 how dope I was as far as writing. 0:29:06.640 --> 0:29:08.640 I mean like I didn't know that. 0:29:08.920 --> 0:29:11.360 Like I knew my first album was a hit because 0:29:11.400 --> 0:29:13.880 I just like, ooh, this is hot this because you know, 0:29:13.920 --> 0:29:16.719 I listened to radio. I listened to the songs I listened. 0:29:16.880 --> 0:29:20.480 Grew up listening to Jackson, del Phonics, Blue Magic, the 0:29:20.520 --> 0:29:22.720 Spinner is all of them. I grew up listening to that. 0:29:23.920 --> 0:29:27.640 So me growing up listening to that, I was like, Okay, 0:29:27.760 --> 0:29:30.920 I can do this. You know, Tom Bell and Filled 0:29:30.960 --> 0:29:33.280 all the Philadelphia and like Teddy. 0:29:32.960 --> 0:29:33.560 P and all that. 0:29:34.080 --> 0:29:37.400 I grew up listening to them. It's like, okay. Then 0:29:37.400 --> 0:29:39.000 when I did my first album, I'm. 0:29:38.880 --> 0:29:42.880 Like, oh, hell oh, I'm getting ready to hit them 0:29:42.920 --> 0:29:43.480 over the head. 0:29:44.000 --> 0:29:49.320 So basically that's what happened. So after the first album, 0:29:49.440 --> 0:29:53.520 everybody knew what it was for me because the world 0:29:53.600 --> 0:29:57.160 knew at that point. You know, the record company was saying, 0:29:58.960 --> 0:30:03.040 at that point, I proved the point, right, So because 0:30:03.080 --> 0:30:05.840 you came out of nowhere right in the first and 0:30:06.080 --> 0:30:08.320 I was able to produce him write the first album, 0:30:08.320 --> 0:30:12.320 which was unheard of by a new artist, you know, 0:30:12.520 --> 0:30:13.920 somebody who nobody ever heard. 0:30:13.960 --> 0:30:16.880 Do you think you were afforded that because you were 0:30:16.960 --> 0:30:19.800 already a writer just because you're small signed to a smaller. 0:30:20.200 --> 0:30:23.760 Because for a boutique label, Definitely, most they just like 0:30:23.800 --> 0:30:25.840 let him do a stand. And most definitely because he 0:30:25.840 --> 0:30:28.320 heard that I he heard the songs I was writing, 0:30:28.960 --> 0:30:31.720 So definitely, because I think if I would have just 0:30:31.760 --> 0:30:34.040 signed directly, and that's what I said, God worked in 0:30:34.120 --> 0:30:38.480 mysterious ways because the person that signed me was knowledgeable 0:30:38.880 --> 0:30:43.760 enough and understood the game enough to say, yo, he dope, 0:30:43.840 --> 0:30:45.840 let let me let him do him. 0:30:45.280 --> 0:30:45.480 Yeah. 0:30:46.080 --> 0:30:48.240 And if it would have been signed to directly to 0:30:48.280 --> 0:30:51.120 a lecture, which what Anita Baker was on and after 0:30:51.360 --> 0:30:54.320 at the time it was one by Bob krat Now, 0:30:54.720 --> 0:30:58.640 I believe they would have submitted me songs and it 0:30:58.680 --> 0:31:00.200 wouldn't I wouldn't. 0:30:59.880 --> 0:31:01.360 Have been able to do the songs that I was 0:31:01.400 --> 0:31:01.920 able to do. 0:31:02.280 --> 0:31:04.360 And now at this point, you you had a chance 0:31:04.400 --> 0:31:07.880 to prove yourself right, and you absolutely prove yourself right. 0:31:08.120 --> 0:31:12.680 Does the business immediately become advantageous for you from a 0:31:12.720 --> 0:31:15.000 business side after this first album or where you were 0:31:15.000 --> 0:31:18.000 able to with it, It's like, okay, y'all here, I'm here. 0:31:18.160 --> 0:31:21.880 In the beginning, did it go like here are you now? No? 0:31:22.000 --> 0:31:25.440 I still had to finago. Okay, certain things I still 0:31:25.480 --> 0:31:28.760 had too. You know, can he do it again? 0:31:29.080 --> 0:31:29.200 Right? 0:31:29.320 --> 0:31:32.440 Type of thing? Sophomore sophomore jinks? Can he do it again? 0:31:33.680 --> 0:31:36.120 I say, I knew I could do it again. 0:31:36.000 --> 0:31:37.920 And then we jump all the way into this, I'll 0:31:37.920 --> 0:31:38.360 give all. 0:31:38.280 --> 0:31:40.200 My love to you. I'll give my love to you. 0:31:41.080 --> 0:31:45.480 You know that that was proof that goes number one 0:31:45.640 --> 0:31:48.440 right pop? Not just RM b oh. 0:31:48.440 --> 0:31:49.440 It went pop number one. 0:31:49.520 --> 0:31:52.960 Yeah, and it went pop number one. So that's a 0:31:52.960 --> 0:31:57.000 whole different conversation, that's a whole different kind of money too. Absolutely, 0:31:57.320 --> 0:32:00.360 so it went number one pop. Also, that's when I 0:32:00.400 --> 0:32:04.000 did the tour with I'm Gonna tell You. That's when 0:32:04.040 --> 0:32:08.360 I did the triple threat to with Johnny, myself and 0:32:08.520 --> 0:32:08.920 bb D. 0:32:10.400 --> 0:32:12.320 That's when that came out. 0:32:12.360 --> 0:32:17.000 The first tour was Heavy D, Salt and Pepper and myself. 0:32:17.480 --> 0:32:19.400 That was the first album. 0:32:19.600 --> 0:32:22.960 And uh yeah that was the first two and now 0:32:22.960 --> 0:32:25.160 you got the triple threat to her second album. 0:32:25.600 --> 0:32:27.400 You just tell me what is album at this? One? 0:32:27.400 --> 0:32:31.560 Four five million two? Come on, man, so out the gate. 0:32:31.960 --> 0:32:33.200 Hit after hit after. 0:32:33.120 --> 0:32:36.520 Hit, right, not just five hits. 0:32:36.920 --> 0:32:41.840 Ah, I didn't say it. 0:32:39.960 --> 0:32:44.480 I did show him the clip though, and I don't 0:32:44.520 --> 0:32:46.320 know what that five ship came from. 0:32:46.960 --> 0:32:49.440 He explained it, well, well he explained it. 0:32:49.440 --> 0:32:50.680 Nobody do their homework. 0:32:51.280 --> 0:32:52.440 We made them do their homework. 0:32:52.520 --> 0:32:54.640 Please do your home work because that's in sultant but go. 0:32:54.560 --> 0:32:57.400 Ahead, yeah, because I mean listen, the first album only 0:32:57.440 --> 0:33:00.800 had eight songs on it, all hit record you why 0:33:00.800 --> 0:33:02.320 did you only put eight records on there? 0:33:02.360 --> 0:33:04.920 Though? Because that was an odd number. Because I ain't 0:33:04.960 --> 0:33:07.920 want to do no more I knew. So it wasn't 0:33:07.920 --> 0:33:10.560 no close composition clause at this It was. 0:33:10.520 --> 0:33:12.440 Like shit, if that if this don't get them ain't 0:33:12.480 --> 0:33:15.640 nothing gonna get them right, Yeah, they have nothing else 0:33:15.720 --> 0:33:15.920 to do. 0:33:16.400 --> 0:33:17.680 I'm giving you eight out of eight. 0:33:18.040 --> 0:33:19.680 Well, I don't need to put no more on. 0:33:19.960 --> 0:33:22.000 Now that you're on this second album, you sell all 0:33:22.000 --> 0:33:25.080 these records again, do you ever have the at what 0:33:25.160 --> 0:33:27.640 point do you have the moment where you just you're like, damn, 0:33:27.680 --> 0:33:32.520 this is real. Like I'm really selling a lot of records, 0:33:32.520 --> 0:33:33.920 selling out arenas. 0:33:34.440 --> 0:33:35.800 This is a real thing for me. 0:33:35.880 --> 0:33:38.240 Now do you have that moment by this time or are 0:33:38.240 --> 0:33:40.520 you still like, ah. 0:33:40.000 --> 0:33:42.120 No, I still I have that moment at that point, 0:33:42.160 --> 0:33:46.160 because now I'm seeing the people, I'm seeing the tours, 0:33:46.160 --> 0:33:48.920 I'm seeing the fact that I can take my mama 0:33:48.920 --> 0:33:53.360 off the project, give a house. All that becomes reality 0:33:53.440 --> 0:33:57.360 now at this point, I'm still New York at that point, 0:33:57.400 --> 0:34:00.520 but I'm slowly you getting to the South, getting to 0:34:00.600 --> 0:34:02.240 this app I mean, I didn't even know I was 0:34:02.240 --> 0:34:04.520 gonna move to Atlanta, to be honest with you, And 0:34:04.640 --> 0:34:07.040 that just happened on a wing when I just have 0:34:07.160 --> 0:34:08.640 to be on tour and I said, Damn, I can 0:34:08.680 --> 0:34:10.279 get this kind of house for this kind of money. 0:34:10.360 --> 0:34:12.920 Yeah, coming listen. 0:34:12.920 --> 0:34:15.440 I was driving around today like, man, they still got 0:34:15.520 --> 0:34:17.680 them three we saw me a rube. I'm like, ruge, 0:34:17.680 --> 0:34:19.640 you think they still got the houses from three fifty 0:34:19.760 --> 0:34:23.479 somewhere because we all it's so funny, especially even coming 0:34:23.520 --> 0:34:27.960 in from California. And I had a brother that went 0:34:28.000 --> 0:34:31.880 to Clark and I remember him telling me, actually, I 0:34:32.160 --> 0:34:32.560 take that back. 0:34:32.600 --> 0:34:35.799 He was the Morris Brown which don't even exist no more. 0:34:36.239 --> 0:34:39.080 And I remember him calling home and I was I 0:34:39.120 --> 0:34:40.080 was a teenage, I'm young. 0:34:40.120 --> 0:34:44.959 You're like, man, it's Atlanta. It's it Atlanta. Is it 0:34:45.880 --> 0:34:46.640 like Atlanta? 0:34:47.440 --> 0:34:50.080 Like I'm telling you, man, you get the basement, you 0:34:50.120 --> 0:34:54.080 get the backyard, you got this. You know, the prices 0:34:54.120 --> 0:34:56.640 of everything in the streets is higher there than they. 0:34:56.560 --> 0:35:00.400 He is here. I'm like, okay, and I have a 0:35:00.440 --> 0:35:01.200 full understanding. 0:35:01.200 --> 0:35:02.759 Then when I got in the music business, I start 0:35:02.840 --> 0:35:06.040 taking writers' trips, like when I became an adult and 0:35:06.080 --> 0:35:07.920 I could, you know, fly to Atlanta. 0:35:07.920 --> 0:35:08.880 And now I'm at. 0:35:08.840 --> 0:35:12.120 Such and such as writer who might got half a hit. 0:35:13.000 --> 0:35:17.040 I'm like, man, you can afford all this out here right? 0:35:17.239 --> 0:35:22.240 This is my ass. Just couldn't leave California. I was stuck. 0:35:22.480 --> 0:35:25.240 I love Cali. I was stuck. Man, I ain't stuck. 0:35:25.480 --> 0:35:27.239 I should have brought my ass to Atlanta and bought 0:35:27.239 --> 0:35:33.239 me some makers and ship man. Yeah, but this this place, man, 0:35:33.520 --> 0:35:37.480 were you here during the Face era? 0:35:38.200 --> 0:35:38.480 Yeah? 0:35:39.200 --> 0:35:41.520 Were you already here before that? Are you came around 0:35:41.560 --> 0:35:42.560 that same time? 0:35:42.280 --> 0:35:44.239 The time, the same time? 0:35:44.280 --> 0:35:49.920 So the music scene too, it was building right, Oh yeah, 0:35:50.280 --> 0:35:51.439 I can't imagine the life. 0:35:51.520 --> 0:35:52.280 Yeah, I was living. 0:35:53.160 --> 0:35:55.799 I was supposed to sign Usher, but I didn't. Wait 0:35:55.840 --> 0:35:57.359 what I was supposed to sign Usher? 0:35:57.400 --> 0:35:58.160 But I didn't. 0:35:58.600 --> 0:36:02.480 Why not because at the time La beat me to 0:36:02.520 --> 0:36:02.960 the punch? 0:36:03.120 --> 0:36:05.879 Okay, but so you you got it when you saw 0:36:05.880 --> 0:36:06.160 it though. 0:36:06.560 --> 0:36:10.879 Yeah, I was gonna and he was a talent show 0:36:10.920 --> 0:36:16.200 was going on, and he started singing for me, and he. 0:36:16.200 --> 0:36:18.799 Went in there and did this thing with La. Read 0:36:19.000 --> 0:36:20.879 was and La got him. 0:36:20.800 --> 0:36:23.120 Before I got La was like, I'm signing it now, 0:36:24.040 --> 0:36:27.800 That's what happened. That's something that I wanted to highlight 0:36:27.840 --> 0:36:30.520 to it. I you know, because I've had those conversations 0:36:30.560 --> 0:36:35.000 about you, about being an artist who's always been willing 0:36:35.040 --> 0:36:39.200 to share their life, which is rare, right, we know this, 0:36:40.960 --> 0:36:45.080 And I've always had the utmost respect for you because 0:36:45.080 --> 0:36:51.520 of that, because there are many artists that really want 0:36:51.600 --> 0:36:53.239 to put other artists on like. 0:36:53.280 --> 0:36:56.319 They may say, oh yeah, yeah, I got I'm gonna 0:36:56.320 --> 0:36:59.240 start this label. We're gonna But like you were literally 0:36:59.280 --> 0:37:05.359 discovering artists, what was that for you internally that said, Okay, 0:37:05.440 --> 0:37:09.440 I gotta really reach back, because that's what it really becomes, 0:37:09.560 --> 0:37:13.560 especially when you're having a success you're having. It's not like, Okay, 0:37:13.840 --> 0:37:15.560 I'm on my last leg and I need to find 0:37:15.560 --> 0:37:18.880 somebody else to get hot. You literally keep sweat. 0:37:19.360 --> 0:37:22.120 You don't have to do these deals because we both 0:37:22.200 --> 0:37:25.800 know what comes along with that. There's an added stress 0:37:25.840 --> 0:37:28.760 and an added thing when you start taking on artists 0:37:28.800 --> 0:37:30.280 and their lives. 0:37:31.280 --> 0:37:33.640 So what pushed you toward that to give back? 0:37:34.200 --> 0:37:36.080 Like my mother would say, you a given out of 0:37:36.120 --> 0:37:40.040 taken so basically, and it also made me feel good 0:37:40.080 --> 0:37:41.640 to show that I could do. 0:37:41.600 --> 0:37:43.680 The same thing for myself for somebody. 0:37:43.280 --> 0:37:45.840 Else, somebody else, and I could write hit records for 0:37:45.920 --> 0:37:49.920 somebody else, not just for myself. Yeah, So that was 0:37:49.960 --> 0:37:54.239 another type of feeling, amazing feeling for me because not 0:37:54.400 --> 0:37:56.719 only I was able to do it for me, I 0:37:56.760 --> 0:38:00.920 was able to do it or make somebody else dream reality. 0:38:01.120 --> 0:38:05.120 So for the I mean, certain things in life make 0:38:05.200 --> 0:38:08.600 me happy, not everything but certain things just me. That's 0:38:08.640 --> 0:38:10.399 one of the things that made me happy to give 0:38:10.760 --> 0:38:15.319 to people that may not be fortunate enough to get 0:38:15.440 --> 0:38:17.319 on their own by itself, you know. 0:38:18.040 --> 0:38:18.640 And you know. 0:38:19.120 --> 0:38:23.920 Because like that, that's the type of fulfillment for me. 0:38:24.239 --> 0:38:29.320 I mean, people don't understand that, but that fulfills certain 0:38:29.360 --> 0:38:31.400 things in me and makes me feel good. 0:38:31.280 --> 0:38:32.880 About me when I look in the mirror. 0:38:33.200 --> 0:38:35.200 You know what I'm saying, Because you might have a 0:38:35.200 --> 0:38:37.799 whole lot and nay say is saying this and saying that, 0:38:38.320 --> 0:38:41.880 and it could upset you. But when you know yourself 0:38:43.239 --> 0:38:45.880 that what you do and what you have done and 0:38:45.920 --> 0:38:48.719 you don't have to speak about it or say I've 0:38:48.760 --> 0:38:50.160 done this for you and so on, that for you 0:38:50.239 --> 0:38:51.720 that's a great, amazing feeling. 0:38:52.200 --> 0:38:53.120 But because people do. 0:38:53.160 --> 0:38:59.480 Know absolutely absolutely, and you look at different you put 0:38:59.520 --> 0:39:04.640 in a different light. When you're able to discover, develop 0:39:05.440 --> 0:39:08.120 and and see those type of projects through where you 0:39:08.120 --> 0:39:11.400 you help people become stars as well, it's just it 0:39:11.440 --> 0:39:14.400 builds it builds everything up, right, I you know, but 0:39:14.520 --> 0:39:16.759 I do, like I said, I understand that the other 0:39:16.880 --> 0:39:20.879 side of you know, the pressures of it, but. 0:39:21.200 --> 0:39:23.360 Where somebody else going I. 0:39:23.400 --> 0:39:25.600 Used to get upset when people I put on it 0:39:25.719 --> 0:39:29.200 might have said things. And then I smile, and then 0:39:29.440 --> 0:39:32.480 I look at the position I'm still laying and I 0:39:32.640 --> 0:39:36.880 laugh because I said, you know, God will make your 0:39:37.000 --> 0:39:38.040 enemy your footstool. 0:39:39.040 --> 0:39:39.439 Mm hmm. 0:39:40.040 --> 0:39:43.600 So I said, okay, cool. If you feel I never 0:39:43.640 --> 0:39:48.680 did nothing for you, I moved on. That's a battle 0:39:48.719 --> 0:39:51.600 you have to fight with yourself, and you have to 0:39:51.600 --> 0:39:53.840 be honest with yourself and look in the mirror with yourself. 0:39:53.880 --> 0:39:57.080 And you gotta like because I always tell people there's 0:39:57.080 --> 0:39:59.480 three sides to every story, mind, yours and the truth. 0:40:00.520 --> 0:40:03.880 So you gotta you gotta come to a. 0:40:03.920 --> 0:40:08.759 Point in your life and say, hey, dag, you know, everybody, 0:40:10.000 --> 0:40:14.279 if you're a real person, you can a lot of 0:40:14.320 --> 0:40:15.480 things that you do that are. 0:40:15.320 --> 0:40:17.160 Not right will convict you. 0:40:17.160 --> 0:40:19.399 You're looking at your marror, at yourself, and then we'll 0:40:19.440 --> 0:40:21.359 convict you for real, for real, right. 0:40:21.680 --> 0:40:26.480 So I don't like to be convicted. So I try 0:40:26.520 --> 0:40:27.359 to do the right thing. 0:40:27.520 --> 0:40:29.560 So you know what other people think it's the right 0:40:29.600 --> 0:40:31.319 thing or don't think it's the right thing. If I 0:40:31.360 --> 0:40:35.520 feel I've done everything I could to make it right, 0:40:35.600 --> 0:40:36.200 then there's nothing. 0:40:36.239 --> 0:40:47.920 No, I'm fine, it's commendable. Tell me about New Jackson. 0:40:49.960 --> 0:40:50.840 Did you know. 0:40:52.440 --> 0:40:55.759 Andy, No, no, no, you know what. I'm there, you're 0:40:55.760 --> 0:40:58.320 gonna tell me know again? It's not a wedding song. 0:40:59.520 --> 0:41:05.400 It's not No, how does that even come together? I 0:41:05.400 --> 0:41:09.879 remember watching as a kid. I'm like, that, don't make 0:41:09.960 --> 0:41:11.840 no sense that he's singing there you go telling me 0:41:11.880 --> 0:41:12.600 know again at a. 0:41:12.520 --> 0:41:17.120 Wedding, right, Well, honestly what happened, And I've talked about 0:41:17.160 --> 0:41:19.440 it in the press so I can talk about it. 0:41:19.440 --> 0:41:23.239 It's not documentary for him, because the documentary form I 0:41:23.239 --> 0:41:24.200 wouldn't even. 0:41:24.840 --> 0:41:25.839 Be on it right now. 0:41:25.920 --> 0:41:29.840 But it was supposed to be Let's chill, ah and 0:41:29.960 --> 0:41:33.239 Let's chill. Like, I'm not gonna blame it on t 0:41:34.000 --> 0:41:37.319 I'm not gonna I'm blame it on you know, the 0:41:37.360 --> 0:41:40.640 powers that be at the time. Yeah, you know. I 0:41:40.719 --> 0:41:43.799 was in the studio with Bnard Bell Teddy. We did 0:41:43.920 --> 0:41:46.720 Let's Chill. Let's Chill was supposed to go on the movie. 0:41:47.280 --> 0:41:47.960 It didn't. 0:41:48.800 --> 0:41:52.320 I didn't get the master to give it to Mario 0:41:52.440 --> 0:41:56.280 van Peeples to go into the movie, so they needed 0:41:56.320 --> 0:41:58.560 a song. So I was singing at the wedding, so 0:41:58.600 --> 0:42:00.440 I had to. I wrote, there you go tell me, 0:42:00.840 --> 0:42:02.759 you know getting that same night that said, man, y'all 0:42:02.760 --> 0:42:05.640 better take that and call of the day, and that's 0:42:05.680 --> 0:42:06.240 what happened. 0:42:08.239 --> 0:42:11.640 Classic, classic record, classic scene. 0:42:11.400 --> 0:42:16.480 Another hit, another hit, and then they had a shootout, right, 0:42:17.600 --> 0:42:20.600 everything that went with that scene, it's just it's just 0:42:20.680 --> 0:42:24.200 it's like a period piece in my life, honestly, like that. 0:42:24.280 --> 0:42:27.520 I just I just remember, right, like, Okay, that's not 0:42:27.520 --> 0:42:29.480 supposed to be there. But the song is great and 0:42:29.520 --> 0:42:32.040 I love the record, okay, And then they had a shootout, 0:42:32.040 --> 0:42:33.759 and you know Brown has got Baby's guard. 0:42:33.800 --> 0:42:35.239 Then why you have to shootout? Right? 0:42:36.120 --> 0:42:39.440 Were you when you get called to do the movie? 0:42:41.120 --> 0:42:46.279 Had you seen like any dailies of it anything? So 0:42:46.320 --> 0:42:48.160 you didn't even know what it was about to be about. 0:42:48.600 --> 0:42:50.560 I mean, you knew obviously knew the premise of the movie, right, 0:42:50.640 --> 0:42:50.960 but I. 0:42:50.920 --> 0:42:55.160 Didn't know whatever's gonna do, what it was gonna be about. Nothing. 0:42:54.800 --> 0:42:57.359 They called me, that's what you on the wedding scene. 0:42:57.400 --> 0:42:58.760 I didn't know I was gonna be in the wedding 0:42:58.800 --> 0:43:02.640 thing thing. So okay, cool boom sang. 0:43:03.520 --> 0:43:06.640 Oh man, that is great. And like you said, another 0:43:06.760 --> 0:43:10.560 hit record. As you're moving it on your into your career, 0:43:10.640 --> 0:43:13.480 have you ever had moments where you like, can I 0:43:13.520 --> 0:43:17.480 write another one? Because you've written so many, have you 0:43:17.560 --> 0:43:21.080 had like have you had those moments as a writer? Never? 0:43:22.760 --> 0:43:24.319 Aw Never? 0:43:25.480 --> 0:43:28.120 I mean because I've always been I've been writing since 0:43:28.120 --> 0:43:32.160 I was the kids. It's never and I'm always trying 0:43:32.200 --> 0:43:34.680 to out do myself and I'm always trying to I'll 0:43:34.719 --> 0:43:35.640 do somebody else. 0:43:36.040 --> 0:43:36.239 Yeah. 0:43:36.360 --> 0:43:38.320 On the writing tip, you know a lot of people 0:43:38.320 --> 0:43:43.239 don't like I can like I can write anything country, 0:43:44.360 --> 0:43:46.719 you know, I know planning for me, Yeah, I can 0:43:46.719 --> 0:43:49.640 write anything. So a lot of people don't know that. Yeah, 0:43:49.680 --> 0:43:54.360 so you know, me being able to just show people 0:43:54.520 --> 0:43:59.040 aside me that they really don't know. I enjoyed that. 0:43:59.040 --> 0:44:02.600 That that like I'm oh, lord, I see. I love 0:44:02.680 --> 0:44:05.600 doing that. I love proving a point. That's what I do. 0:44:05.920 --> 0:44:07.960 To me, it feels like it always goes back to 0:44:07.960 --> 0:44:11.279 the song for you though, like yeah, you're you're the artist, 0:44:11.320 --> 0:44:13.719 and you're the vessel who's you know, bringing those those 0:44:13.760 --> 0:44:18.440 records to life. But it just feels like in the 0:44:18.480 --> 0:44:20.960 beginning of everything, it starts with the song. For you, 0:44:21.080 --> 0:44:24.759 you are a songwriter, right, Like we were talking about 0:44:24.800 --> 0:44:28.400 that one day, Like when you file taxes, what do 0:44:28.480 --> 0:44:32.360 you put like, what do you put? It's your occupation entertainer, 0:44:32.640 --> 0:44:35.840 just entertaining. Mm hmmm, because for a long time I 0:44:35.880 --> 0:44:39.160 didn't know what to put. I didn't know for I 0:44:39.200 --> 0:44:42.360 had no and then I start putting the songwriter put entertainer. 0:44:42.400 --> 0:44:45.319 You put entertainer. Yeah, I don't entertain as much as you. 0:44:45.360 --> 0:44:45.640 I don't. 0:44:45.680 --> 0:44:49.279 You know, I pop out every now and then I can't. 0:44:49.600 --> 0:44:51.440 I can't really put entertainer. 0:44:51.000 --> 0:44:51.160 You know. 0:44:51.160 --> 0:44:53.120 I mean, I if I only sing every two years, 0:44:53.120 --> 0:44:54.640 I can't be putting out an entertainer. 0:44:54.680 --> 0:44:55.160 Entertainer. 0:44:55.480 --> 0:44:58.640 Yeah, all right, so we got whatever what other? Let 0:44:58.680 --> 0:44:58.920 me think. 0:44:59.000 --> 0:45:00.920 I'm thinking all the record Man, it's so many of 0:45:00.960 --> 0:45:03.880 them that I want to ask about, you know what Twisted, 0:45:04.680 --> 0:45:08.759 Twisted and Nobody because it was coming the same project. 0:45:09.040 --> 0:45:14.080 To me, they felt like a shift. It felt like 0:45:14.120 --> 0:45:18.759 a shift in what you was doing musically, like this 0:45:18.880 --> 0:45:20.960 is just me as a fan at the time, I 0:45:21.000 --> 0:45:23.280 was like, oh, this is a brand new keyp sweat 0:45:23.560 --> 0:45:23.799 to me? 0:45:25.120 --> 0:45:26.040 Was that intentional? 0:45:27.120 --> 0:45:30.200 No, it was what I felt like writing at the 0:45:30.239 --> 0:45:36.719 time or the oh, I don't think. To me, it 0:45:36.840 --> 0:45:41.319 was the same thing as me writing something just saying 0:45:41.440 --> 0:45:44.600 right because it kind of something something that you know you. 0:45:45.680 --> 0:45:48.359 So to me, it wasn't a shift. It was just, 0:45:49.120 --> 0:45:52.440 you know, we in a whole nother year. Yeah, we did. 0:45:52.440 --> 0:45:52.920 We in the. 0:45:53.000 --> 0:45:56.520 Nineties late nineties, so it was like, Okay, what are 0:45:56.520 --> 0:45:58.960 we doing now? You know what I'm saying, dude, I 0:45:59.000 --> 0:46:02.280 don't want to change what people know is Keith Sweat, 0:46:02.480 --> 0:46:05.359 and so I don't want to go somewhere else that 0:46:05.440 --> 0:46:08.759 I never went. So I want to people love who 0:46:09.000 --> 0:46:12.719 people still messing with what I've done before, So I 0:46:12.760 --> 0:46:17.480 don't want to. You know the problem with most entertainers, 0:46:18.160 --> 0:46:20.880 they go drastically different and people be like, what the 0:46:20.920 --> 0:46:22.880 hell is he doing for me? 0:46:22.960 --> 0:46:25.640 I don't but you got to find that happy medium 0:46:25.640 --> 0:46:29.960 that I feel like you did as fine as stand current. 0:46:29.760 --> 0:46:32.800 But it was still Keith Sweat absolutely well. 0:46:33.000 --> 0:46:36.759 You also have a very distinctive voice like that is 0:46:37.920 --> 0:46:39.280 that can never be confused. 0:46:40.120 --> 0:46:40.919 It shines through. 0:46:42.239 --> 0:46:45.840 I've never heard you on the song about Who's that? 0:46:45.840 --> 0:46:50.040 That's what. It's no confusion about that. 0:46:51.120 --> 0:46:55.600 And so but I think just for me sonically, you've 0:46:55.600 --> 0:47:00.439 been able to find your space in every decade, right, 0:47:01.080 --> 0:47:05.799 which that is hard to do, man st down there impossible, right, 0:47:07.120 --> 0:47:10.000 So to to see you being able to do that. Man, 0:47:10.040 --> 0:47:13.840 it's so inspiring, like you know, sweat just really and 0:47:13.920 --> 0:47:15.120 do you do you do you. 0:47:16.680 --> 0:47:20.400 In staying current and standing the test of time? Do 0:47:20.480 --> 0:47:20.719 you that? 0:47:20.800 --> 0:47:24.040 Do you attribute that to just you really staying tapped 0:47:24.040 --> 0:47:25.680 in like you know what's going on? 0:47:26.640 --> 0:47:31.560 Yeah, and and and I contribute that to I really 0:47:31.600 --> 0:47:34.719 don't listen to radio like that because when I get 0:47:34.760 --> 0:47:38.120 in the studio and and certain songs hit me or 0:47:38.200 --> 0:47:40.359 music hit me, I said like, yo, everybody get out 0:47:40.400 --> 0:47:44.439 the room. I put the headphones on and I'm come 0:47:44.480 --> 0:47:48.320 out and there's a song there. So I've been gifted 0:47:48.400 --> 0:47:51.320 enough to go in there and just to write based 0:47:51.400 --> 0:47:54.560 on what that music says I should be writing. Yeah, 0:47:54.840 --> 0:47:56.120 so's I don't know how. 0:47:56.680 --> 0:47:57.520 I don't be knowing. 0:47:58.080 --> 0:47:59.640 I don't be knowing how it happens. 0:47:59.680 --> 0:48:02.040 Is just happens. And I don't question it. 0:48:02.120 --> 0:48:05.200 Now you got the gift. Yeah, I don't even question it. 0:48:05.239 --> 0:48:07.680 They'll be like my team be like what the hell 0:48:07.840 --> 0:48:08.040 you know? 0:48:08.280 --> 0:48:10.480 Yeah, because you know, I'll go and act like somebody 0:48:10.480 --> 0:48:13.279 bought me a record and they had they was they 0:48:13.280 --> 0:48:16.080 had somebody on the song. And when I heard the 0:48:16.080 --> 0:48:19.319 first two lines, I may cut that mess off. Man, 0:48:19.400 --> 0:48:23.080 take him up, you mute that ship and give me 0:48:23.120 --> 0:48:26.200 the track. Yeah, and I freaked the track. I said, now, 0:48:26.239 --> 0:48:26.879 this is what that shit? 0:48:27.000 --> 0:48:30.399 It sounds like? It was like, oh my god, like that. 0:48:30.560 --> 0:48:34.640 So I mean, I know what, Like I can follow 0:48:35.120 --> 0:48:38.640 rhythms and patterns in and come up with the song 0:48:38.719 --> 0:48:40.759 and lyrics and I don't know how it be and 0:48:40.840 --> 0:48:42.799 hooks and it be in about an hour. 0:48:43.040 --> 0:48:47.120 That's crazy, that is that's a gift, blessing. 0:48:47.480 --> 0:48:50.479 Yeah, my friends went to the to the club one 0:48:50.560 --> 0:48:53.440 night and they left me in the studio and I 0:48:53.480 --> 0:48:56.040 had three tracks. They came back off. Three was done 0:48:57.400 --> 0:48:59.239 in about two two and a half hours. 0:48:59.280 --> 0:49:02.960 Are you still actively every day in the studio? 0:49:03.320 --> 0:49:06.040 Not actively? Every day? I get my old man's rest, 0:49:06.680 --> 0:49:06.960 did I? 0:49:09.480 --> 0:49:11.400 And then I come down and I feel like it 0:49:11.719 --> 0:49:15.319 because I can't be in the studio and like I 0:49:15.400 --> 0:49:17.880 have to mentally get myself together because I'm always on 0:49:17.920 --> 0:49:20.359 the road. Like I don't mean old man's ress, because 0:49:20.400 --> 0:49:22.600 I be in the gym running, running like a young 0:49:22.680 --> 0:49:25.480 boy and doing that type of stuff. So I just 0:49:25.560 --> 0:49:27.799 need to mentally get my head right because I wear 0:49:27.880 --> 0:49:32.080 so many hats. I'm the executive producer hat the movie 0:49:32.160 --> 0:49:40.640 hat the touring hat, the entrepreneur hats, the restaurant hats. Like, 0:49:40.719 --> 0:49:43.359 I got so many hats that I wear that I 0:49:43.440 --> 0:49:44.839 try to be good at all of them. 0:49:44.960 --> 0:49:48.240 It's just that sometime you have to take a break. 0:49:48.400 --> 0:49:52.479 Yeah, no, absolutely, But during this time you weren't taking 0:49:52.520 --> 0:49:56.280 no breaks at all because you go from your solo 0:49:56.400 --> 0:49:58.000 project and then you say, all right, I'm gonna do. 0:49:57.960 --> 0:50:03.440 A group because Jill and Johnny with my boys. So 0:50:03.800 --> 0:50:06.000 you know, Jill never happened. 0:50:06.280 --> 0:50:11.040 Jill never went platinum before ever, and Johnny that's my boy. 0:50:11.840 --> 0:50:14.560 So I said, I want to do a group. So 0:50:16.040 --> 0:50:17.680 the record company was against it. 0:50:18.440 --> 0:50:21.440 Oh they fought that. Yeah for it, that would seem 0:50:21.560 --> 0:50:25.160 like an They fought that, and I had to fight back. 0:50:25.320 --> 0:50:28.239 So they ended up going through Electure. Yeah okay, they thought. No, 0:50:28.360 --> 0:50:29.960 they fought Electure for it. 0:50:30.800 --> 0:50:32.799 I won't you know this is this part where you 0:50:32.840 --> 0:50:35.160 say boom boom boom what you say and you won't 0:50:35.200 --> 0:50:39.560 tell the story. I'm not gonna tell it. Who ford it? 0:50:40.000 --> 0:50:43.680 They It was like, you're not doing nothing. I said, 0:50:43.880 --> 0:50:47.520 I don't you talking to like that, y'all. I'm doing this. 0:50:48.000 --> 0:50:50.160 If you don't like it, you don't like it. But 0:50:50.239 --> 0:50:53.879 I bet it happened. So you see that it happened, right. 0:50:53.840 --> 0:50:56.960 It absolutely happened. Another multiplat the Marvel. 0:50:56.920 --> 0:51:00.640 Right my body, and they tried to take dit for it, 0:51:00.640 --> 0:51:03.720 but Jell said, yo, and that was all y'all. 0:51:03.840 --> 0:51:04.800 That was Keith Sweat. 0:51:04.800 --> 0:51:11.399 I did, hey man, once again being a giver. Being 0:51:11.440 --> 0:51:11.719 a giver. 0:51:12.360 --> 0:51:15.320 But so much has been given to you for being 0:51:15.400 --> 0:51:18.560 that type of person, right, It always, it always comes back. 0:51:18.640 --> 0:51:21.959 That's why I feel I'm still relevant all these years later, 0:51:22.080 --> 0:51:26.080 because God has blessed me abundantly because of the things 0:51:26.160 --> 0:51:30.279 I've done to give, because you know, I mean, and 0:51:30.320 --> 0:51:31.560 that I contributed to. 0:51:31.600 --> 0:51:34.399 Him, not nothing else but him. 0:51:34.440 --> 0:51:36.359 Now, I mean, it's like I said, it's not I 0:51:36.400 --> 0:51:39.040 can't take the credit because you know, there's a lot 0:51:39.040 --> 0:51:40.759 of people that came out when I came out that's 0:51:40.800 --> 0:51:44.200 not relevant at this point. So for him to have 0:51:44.520 --> 0:51:50.480 to make me knowledgeable and to have him still have me. 0:51:50.480 --> 0:51:53.120 Headlining after all these years, it's amazing. 0:51:53.520 --> 0:51:56.919 I'm glad you mentioned that because that is something that's 0:51:56.960 --> 0:52:01.360 so important to an artist and to the longevity of 0:52:01.440 --> 0:52:06.880 an artist. What made you start really paying attention to 0:52:06.920 --> 0:52:12.360 the business of the road and touring because most artists 0:52:12.360 --> 0:52:13.600 are just like, Okay, I'm gonna get my friend in 0:52:13.960 --> 0:52:14.880 my back in there. 0:52:15.200 --> 0:52:15.480 Cool. 0:52:15.800 --> 0:52:19.640 But you started to start looking at the gate, start 0:52:19.640 --> 0:52:23.400 looking at the merch How much is this back line? 0:52:24.440 --> 0:52:28.040 Can I buy these buses? Can I buy these sprinter vans? 0:52:28.480 --> 0:52:30.759 Like what kicked in for you? Or you were just 0:52:30.800 --> 0:52:34.440 like you know what? This is now another ancillary business. 0:52:34.000 --> 0:52:36.960 For me because even at the first album, I bought 0:52:37.120 --> 0:52:40.480 my own SSL board, even after the first album, so 0:52:40.760 --> 0:52:42.919 because I felt like, if I'm gonna spend my money 0:52:42.920 --> 0:52:46.160 in studio, own it on my own, my SSL boards. 0:52:46.200 --> 0:52:49.640 So for fifty four channel in put SSL. 0:52:49.239 --> 0:52:52.200 Board, how much was that back then it was. 0:52:52.760 --> 0:52:56.279 About close to three on thousands, and put it in 0:52:56.320 --> 0:52:58.920 my house. And then that's why I did the Silk album. 0:52:58.960 --> 0:53:02.160 At my my album Matt Cut Close album. 0:53:02.200 --> 0:53:04.960 And now you're charging back the studio because now you're 0:53:05.040 --> 0:53:05.400 the studio. 0:53:05.560 --> 0:53:09.120 Yeah, because I felt like I'm not going into the 0:53:09.160 --> 0:53:11.239 studio and spend that kind of money when I can 0:53:11.280 --> 0:53:13.839 put this board in my house and you know. 0:53:14.120 --> 0:53:16.040 And back then you couldn't get in the studio for 0:53:16.120 --> 0:53:18.200 less than fifteen hundred a day twenty five hundred the 0:53:18.239 --> 0:53:19.759 day South studios. 0:53:19.360 --> 0:53:21.279 I would spend all the time and then I would 0:53:21.320 --> 0:53:23.399 have the speaker come up to my bedroom and listen 0:53:23.440 --> 0:53:24.080 to the mixes. 0:53:24.480 --> 0:53:25.000 So I knew it. 0:53:25.080 --> 0:53:27.680 But the mix is gonna sound like because I had 0:53:29.960 --> 0:53:31.000 man put the. 0:53:31.000 --> 0:53:33.160 Speakers up in my house. So I'll tell my end 0:53:33.200 --> 0:53:35.480 of that mixed the song. Now, no turn that base 0:53:35.560 --> 0:53:36.480 to turn that base down? 0:53:36.520 --> 0:53:39.799 Are you making you're really making bedroom music? Yeah? Yeah, 0:53:39.920 --> 0:53:42.040 so this was this was gonna sound in your bedroom. 0:53:42.120 --> 0:53:44.719 This guy is gonna sound Yeah. So that's what I did. 0:53:44.960 --> 0:53:45.560 That's genius. 0:53:45.600 --> 0:53:46.680 That's genius. 0:53:46.920 --> 0:53:51.040 And the THESG album there I did, the old school 0:53:51.120 --> 0:53:53.000 album cut Close, Yeah I did. 0:53:53.719 --> 0:53:55.640 Then you took that same mindset to the road. 0:53:55.640 --> 0:53:58.920 Though, right, if I'm gonna be on the road, I 0:53:58.960 --> 0:54:00.439 need to own these I bought. 0:54:00.560 --> 0:54:03.239 I bought that first, I bought the key Voice, and 0:54:03.840 --> 0:54:07.000 I was buying stuff like I'm a person that if 0:54:07.040 --> 0:54:09.720 I'm gonna spend money on it, I'm gonna buy it. Yeah, 0:54:09.800 --> 0:54:14.160 because like most people, right, when you don't think like that, 0:54:14.160 --> 0:54:17.320 that means you don't you're telling yourself you're not gonna 0:54:17.360 --> 0:54:21.480 be here for for a year. When you're doing things 0:54:21.520 --> 0:54:23.440 like that, you're telling yourself you're gonna be here for 0:54:23.480 --> 0:54:24.160 some time. 0:54:24.040 --> 0:54:25.279 Right, I'm gonna be able to get the use out 0:54:25.320 --> 0:54:25.480 of this. 0:54:25.640 --> 0:54:25.960 Yeah. 0:54:26.000 --> 0:54:29.120 So, And I tell people, you know, it's like, if 0:54:29.160 --> 0:54:31.359 you're only thinking I want now, that means you ain't 0:54:31.400 --> 0:54:33.120 thinking about five years from now. You don't think you 0:54:33.239 --> 0:54:34.960 bought going to be here five years from now, or 0:54:35.000 --> 0:54:36.640 you don't think you're gonna be in the game five years. 0:54:36.680 --> 0:54:38.000 I man that whatever the case is. 0:54:38.480 --> 0:54:41.520 I feel like everything like me buying a red camera, 0:54:41.640 --> 0:54:45.520 me buying my lights, me doing everything I do for me, 0:54:45.800 --> 0:54:47.879 it's I'm gonna get the use oude of it. 0:54:48.239 --> 0:54:50.399 I'm not gonna ready for nobody else because I'm gonna 0:54:50.440 --> 0:54:55.480 end up using it more than yeah, just buying it 0:54:55.520 --> 0:54:56.399 for yourself, right, so. 0:54:56.360 --> 0:54:58.000 You might as go buy it and own it and 0:54:58.080 --> 0:54:58.600 now you're good. 0:54:59.000 --> 0:55:01.200 Why I was hounding you so much to come on 0:55:01.239 --> 0:55:05.520 this show because the things I know about you, because 0:55:06.080 --> 0:55:09.319 you've let me into your life, in your circle, and 0:55:10.120 --> 0:55:12.200 you know, I feel like I'm a confident of yours 0:55:12.239 --> 0:55:14.439 that you know you call me, you tell me you like, hey, Jay, 0:55:14.520 --> 0:55:18.680 pay attention to this or that. I kind of got 0:55:18.680 --> 0:55:23.040 tired of just telling people. Make keev Man. They mentioned 0:55:23.080 --> 0:55:26.399 whoever else y'all want to mention. But when I look 0:55:26.440 --> 0:55:31.239 at you, you are what it's supposed to be as 0:55:31.400 --> 0:55:38.640 an artist, businessman, business person, right Like I can look 0:55:38.640 --> 0:55:41.640 at everybody's accomplishments and yeah, that's cool, it's cool you 0:55:41.680 --> 0:55:45.040 did that. Okay, cool, cool, cool? Do you own your masters? 0:55:45.600 --> 0:55:48.560 Are you promoting your own shows? Have you figured out 0:55:48.600 --> 0:55:51.720 how to really run your own program for real? 0:55:52.000 --> 0:55:53.560 Right? And yes? 0:55:53.800 --> 0:55:56.160 And I think most people think, Okay, if I'm learning 0:55:56.160 --> 0:55:57.520 all those things, I don't need nobody. 0:55:57.600 --> 0:55:59.319 You don't think like that. You're like, no, no, I need 0:55:59.320 --> 0:55:59.840 the right people. 0:56:00.200 --> 0:56:03.280 But still gotta have the right team in position because 0:56:04.040 --> 0:56:06.480 at the right time you want them to do certain things. 0:56:07.160 --> 0:56:08.680 Even though I wear a bunch of hats, I still 0:56:08.719 --> 0:56:12.760 have my team and I'm still the bottom. 0:56:12.440 --> 0:56:16.000 Line, I'm still the last say, but. 0:56:16.920 --> 0:56:19.759 You give them the opportunity to be the last thing, 0:56:19.800 --> 0:56:22.440 to see how they can move without you having to 0:56:22.480 --> 0:56:24.400 say boom boom boom boom boom. 0:56:24.480 --> 0:56:24.719 Yeah. 0:56:24.800 --> 0:56:26.359 You got some people that can do that, and you've 0:56:26.360 --> 0:56:30.040 got some people that can't do that. So you have 0:56:30.160 --> 0:56:32.839 to entrust in certain people to do things and get 0:56:32.840 --> 0:56:36.839 things done because you really it's only twenty four hours 0:56:36.840 --> 0:56:39.200 in a day, and you can't do everything yourself, so 0:56:39.280 --> 0:56:41.840 you really got to, you know, confide in certain people 0:56:41.840 --> 0:56:45.560 and hope hopefully they will get certain things done. The 0:56:45.600 --> 0:56:47.960 problem with some people that go broke or whatever, they 0:56:48.480 --> 0:56:53.680 get the wrong team, or they don't they're not they 0:56:53.680 --> 0:56:57.160 don't want to know what's going on in their lane 0:56:57.239 --> 0:57:00.160 or their business, and they don't do enough research or 0:57:00.239 --> 0:57:03.160 they don't do enough finding out. Okay, house this being run, 0:57:03.200 --> 0:57:05.840 who's doing this, who's not doing this? Just like something 0:57:05.920 --> 0:57:08.919 came up, and not to mention or throw anybody under 0:57:08.920 --> 0:57:11.960 the bus. You know, I'm behind the eight ball on 0:57:12.040 --> 0:57:14.800 some things that I should have been in front of 0:57:14.840 --> 0:57:18.600 the eight ball on, you know. So my attitude is like, yo, 0:57:18.840 --> 0:57:22.120 don't let that happen again. Don't let it happen again. 0:57:22.160 --> 0:57:26.800 Because I designed my things to be on point. There's 0:57:26.840 --> 0:57:30.360 a method to my madness. Like I move in a 0:57:30.400 --> 0:57:34.200 way like, yeah, I jumped from one thing to another, 0:57:34.600 --> 0:57:37.000 but because I feel that because the one thing I 0:57:37.080 --> 0:57:40.680 jumped from was supposed to be already handled, right, So 0:57:40.720 --> 0:57:45.640 when I jump onto something else, I'm thinking like that 0:57:45.800 --> 0:57:48.880 was being handled. I wouldn't have jumped from that to 0:57:49.040 --> 0:57:51.040 that if I didn't think it was being handled. 0:57:51.200 --> 0:57:52.400 Yeah, so that's how I am. 0:57:53.080 --> 0:57:55.640 It's part of why you're still here. It's part of 0:57:55.680 --> 0:57:57.560 why you're still relevant. It's part of why you. 0:57:57.680 --> 0:57:59.400 Still printing money. 0:57:59.720 --> 0:58:02.000 People ask me, but man like gow Sweat, I said, man, 0:58:02.240 --> 0:58:06.560 friend money friend money man, you know, and and just 0:58:07.200 --> 0:58:10.120 how you've gone about your business man and what your 0:58:10.360 --> 0:58:14.320 what your name means to us, especially the ones that 0:58:14.480 --> 0:58:16.280 really know you in his name like. 0:58:17.360 --> 0:58:20.680 It's a one, right, I hope you know that. Yeah, No, 0:58:20.960 --> 0:58:22.960 your name is your name is a one, like I know, 0:58:23.120 --> 0:58:29.440 thank you, Bobby, I mean Joe, I mean a pleasure. 0:58:29.640 --> 0:58:33.600 I mean, I don't think all all of I mean, 0:58:33.640 --> 0:58:37.160 I don't think there's nobody that don't give me my 0:58:37.320 --> 0:58:40.800 props or what I deserve. And the people that don't 0:58:40.800 --> 0:58:43.040 give them to me they don't know me, or they 0:58:43.040 --> 0:58:46.840 don't know my business or and they shouldn't. You know 0:58:46.880 --> 0:58:49.840 what I'm saying, because to me, I don't. I'm not 0:58:50.680 --> 0:58:54.120 trying to sell myself to people. That's not that I 0:58:54.160 --> 0:58:56.680 don't feel as relevant to my life. You know what 0:58:56.720 --> 0:59:03.040 I'm saying. I'm not trying to prove a point. If 0:59:02.840 --> 0:59:06.680 if the point hasn't been proven by now, there's nothing 0:59:06.720 --> 0:59:07.080 to prove. 0:59:07.360 --> 0:59:10.200 I mean, I'm fine. I'm fine with where I am 0:59:10.240 --> 0:59:10.800 in my life. 0:59:11.120 --> 0:59:13.680 You know, one thing about in life, and I tell 0:59:13.720 --> 0:59:16.840 people you have to be happy with yourself and you 0:59:17.120 --> 0:59:20.000 and you know, everything ain't for everybody, and everybody ain't 0:59:20.000 --> 0:59:23.680 for everything. I don't need what everybody else has to 0:59:23.800 --> 0:59:24.560 make me happy. 0:59:24.680 --> 0:59:27.680 I ain't got to. 0:59:26.520 --> 0:59:27.880 Be seen here, here, here. 0:59:27.960 --> 0:59:31.000 That's why you don't see me everywhere. Because I don't 0:59:31.000 --> 0:59:33.360 want to be everywhere. I don't want to be seen everywhere. 0:59:33.360 --> 0:59:37.240 That's just not me. I'm an introvert, yeah, you know. 0:59:38.440 --> 0:59:41.919 And because I'm an introvert, I'm happy with staying home 0:59:41.960 --> 0:59:43.080 watching TV or. 0:59:43.040 --> 0:59:45.920 Something like that, you know, even by myself thinking of 0:59:45.960 --> 0:59:48.680 two be because now you have movies everywhere, you know. 0:59:49.680 --> 0:59:52.240 But I'm just saying, I mean, but before that, I'm 0:59:52.800 --> 0:59:55.920 I just like being in my space. And you know, 0:59:56.040 --> 0:59:59.120 because I'm gonna be honest with you to the world, 1:00:00.200 --> 1:00:02.040 I've accomplished more than I ever thought I would ever 1:00:02.040 --> 1:00:06.480 accomplish in life anyway. So at this point, I'm fine, 1:00:06.720 --> 1:00:11.240 you know what I'm saying, Because I did something that 1:00:12.280 --> 1:00:14.280 I proved the point to my mom. I was able 1:00:14.320 --> 1:00:17.240 to take care of her, so sometimes people are never 1:00:17.320 --> 1:00:20.800 satisfied and they always want more and warm right because 1:00:20.800 --> 1:00:24.680 they never satisfied. When do you become satisfied? Why is 1:00:24.680 --> 1:00:25.000 it that? 1:00:25.160 --> 1:00:26.280 So that was never your drive? 1:00:26.440 --> 1:00:28.520 Now that's never my drive because you can't take none 1:00:28.560 --> 1:00:32.120 of the shit with you. 1:00:30.640 --> 1:00:31.440 You know what I'm saying. 1:00:31.680 --> 1:00:36.120 The only thing I care about is like, how make 1:00:36.200 --> 1:00:38.600 sure my kids are good and my kids kids are 1:00:38.600 --> 1:00:42.240 good or whatever. But in terms of me doing whatever 1:00:42.280 --> 1:00:44.600 I can to get whatever I can and throwing it 1:00:44.600 --> 1:00:45.400 in people face. 1:00:45.240 --> 1:00:46.760 Look what I got, Look what I got, looked with it. 1:00:47.160 --> 1:00:51.120 I think that's whack When somebody do that and throw 1:00:51.160 --> 1:00:52.840 it in people face. It's like, Yo, these are the 1:00:52.920 --> 1:00:54.720 same people that help you get what you got it 1:00:54.800 --> 1:00:56.040 while you're throwing it in their face. 1:00:56.720 --> 1:00:57.440 You know what I'm saying. 1:00:57.600 --> 1:01:00.440 And I'm a firm believer that you know you it's 1:01:00.480 --> 1:01:03.680 insulting for me to see somebody bragging about all the 1:01:03.720 --> 1:01:07.120 things they got and the people that has helped them 1:01:07.120 --> 1:01:09.160 get it. They starve and and they ain't got nothing, 1:01:09.520 --> 1:01:11.760 and people are bragging about what they got. That's kind 1:01:11.760 --> 1:01:14.840 of whack to me because you throw way that in 1:01:14.880 --> 1:01:18.000 their face. Look what you did for me? Yeah, you know, 1:01:18.120 --> 1:01:19.680 that's kind of like not good. 1:01:20.080 --> 1:01:22.080 No, I respect that. I respect that. 1:01:30.760 --> 1:01:33.720 What was the shift for you to get into film 1:01:33.840 --> 1:01:34.840 and film and television? 1:01:35.120 --> 1:01:38.640 One thing my son acts, okay, like I don't want 1:01:38.720 --> 1:01:40.120 him begging nobody. 1:01:39.760 --> 1:01:42.280 For no role, Like I'll help create it. 1:01:42.880 --> 1:01:45.800 So don't beg nobody for no role. 1:01:45.880 --> 1:01:47.600 I create a road for you, and I do the 1:01:47.840 --> 1:01:50.200 movie for you, and you know you and that now 1:01:50.280 --> 1:01:53.520 once I do that, you take it to a whole 1:01:53.520 --> 1:01:57.120 another level of yourself, right like I mean, And this 1:01:57.400 --> 1:02:00.680 giving opportunity, still giving, even though he's mount still giving 1:02:00.800 --> 1:02:03.080 you opportunity to show what you could. 1:02:02.960 --> 1:02:04.040 Do right now. 1:02:04.240 --> 1:02:07.960 That's I'm not gonna hold your hand, but now that 1:02:08.840 --> 1:02:12.680 I'm giving you a platform to stand on, show me 1:02:12.720 --> 1:02:13.520 what else you could do. 1:02:13.600 --> 1:02:14.680 Take that and run with it. 1:02:15.240 --> 1:02:19.320 So that's my thing, you know, in terms of getting 1:02:19.320 --> 1:02:22.840 it's more like you know, people that I've invested in 1:02:23.240 --> 1:02:25.440 or they film I invested it was more so to 1:02:25.480 --> 1:02:28.680 help them, not to help me, but more so to 1:02:28.720 --> 1:02:31.000 help them. So that's why I get into a lot 1:02:31.040 --> 1:02:34.920 of films, because I try to help people and accomplishing 1:02:35.000 --> 1:02:36.200 their dreams and. 1:02:36.560 --> 1:02:41.560 Putting on screening what their vision is. 1:02:41.600 --> 1:02:43.360 That's right, I do It's a different type of power 1:02:43.400 --> 1:02:45.720 in being able to greenlight something right. 1:02:45.800 --> 1:02:49.600 Right, so I'm able to somebody say, yo, I'm short. 1:02:49.640 --> 1:02:52.240 Boom boom boom, I got an amazing film. I look 1:02:52.280 --> 1:02:54.120 at the film, I'm like, okay, who will you have 1:02:54.200 --> 1:02:54.960 attached to it? 1:02:55.320 --> 1:02:58.080 Okay, I need the money to go ahead. 1:02:58.080 --> 1:02:59.680 And there how many films you got? 1:02:59.720 --> 1:02:59.880 Now? 1:03:00.600 --> 1:03:03.440 About five or six you got? You got one out 1:03:03.480 --> 1:03:04.360 now right, yeah. 1:03:04.280 --> 1:03:08.320 Secret between us with Michael John White, Lisa Aarondale and 1:03:09.120 --> 1:03:10.080 and uh. 1:03:10.440 --> 1:03:13.480 A few people. Yeah right, yeah, things behind that's some 1:03:13.560 --> 1:03:13.920 way out. 1:03:15.640 --> 1:03:17.160 What else behind you? Back then? You got? 1:03:17.360 --> 1:03:19.320 Okay, you got bags too. Let's talk about the bag. 1:03:19.440 --> 1:03:22.400 Let's talk about platinum status? Man, what made what made 1:03:22.440 --> 1:03:24.200 you get into that to say, okay, you know what 1:03:24.240 --> 1:03:25.080 I want to do luggage? 1:03:25.080 --> 1:03:27.760 I want to do bags. I on do luxury, high end. 1:03:27.640 --> 1:03:31.680 Things because the bags that I was getting didn't they 1:03:31.680 --> 1:03:33.800 didn't fit you, they didn't fit me, and you know 1:03:34.040 --> 1:03:36.160 they were not conducers. 1:03:36.200 --> 1:03:37.360 But what I want. 1:03:37.400 --> 1:03:40.280 You know, you got your computer, yeah, I pad. 1:03:40.080 --> 1:03:42.120 Your phone. You know, I'm like, yo, this is just 1:03:42.160 --> 1:03:42.560 for shure. 1:03:42.640 --> 1:03:46.000 I need a bag that really, yeah, you know, can 1:03:46.840 --> 1:03:50.040 facilitate everything that I want because you know, we travel, 1:03:50.080 --> 1:03:52.360 we go overseas, we do whatever. You're like, Yo, you 1:03:52.360 --> 1:03:55.120 need a bag that you don't want to want five 1:03:55.160 --> 1:03:58.880 bags when you want condense? Yeah, condense everything, you know, 1:03:58.960 --> 1:04:00.560 as much as you can. And you want the bag 1:04:00.600 --> 1:04:02.080 that still looks like right. 1:04:02.560 --> 1:04:03.880 So that's why I met it. 1:04:04.680 --> 1:04:11.120 And then candles. You got George too. You know, listen 1:04:11.400 --> 1:04:13.720 when you talk, I listen. You got George too. 1:04:13.800 --> 1:04:15.920 You know, we be on the floor, George kund of 1:04:15.920 --> 1:04:16.880 slippers the mind. 1:04:17.200 --> 1:04:22.880 See now man, but you standing in fringe, man square, 1:04:23.000 --> 1:04:26.400 Geors out, you know, but I got I look like 1:04:26.440 --> 1:04:30.600 I'm giving people more candle here we go, but I feel. 1:04:30.400 --> 1:04:33.720 Like I'm giving people more wax. Mine is marble like 1:04:33.760 --> 1:04:36.360 the walls and the floor. But as you mileless. 1:04:36.400 --> 1:04:39.160 But as you see, mine got that song I give 1:04:39.200 --> 1:04:41.040 all my love to you, you know. 1:04:41.920 --> 1:04:45.880 For mine also has the Valentine logo on Oh, but 1:04:46.120 --> 1:04:54.240 mine have music and no the stones in it. I 1:04:54.280 --> 1:04:55.000 can't beat him. 1:04:55.880 --> 1:04:59.560 I can't beat him. He's gonna join him. Let me 1:04:59.600 --> 1:05:03.000 tell you can't us to man. I'm selling this way 1:05:03.080 --> 1:05:06.040 Canada's oh man, this is great? 1:05:06.440 --> 1:05:09.120 What other what? What? What other businesses? Am I missing? 1:05:10.040 --> 1:05:11.640 What the restaurant. 1:05:11.800 --> 1:05:15.920 Yeah, the restaurant I forgot twisted pie, twisted pie, twisted 1:05:16.080 --> 1:05:17.080 twisted pie. 1:05:17.400 --> 1:05:21.000 P y E not p i eh. Okay, p y E. 1:05:21.400 --> 1:05:23.280 Don't get it confused with the p I E with 1:05:23.360 --> 1:05:27.240 the p y E, you know. And I hope the 1:05:27.320 --> 1:05:32.040 p y ts get a nice Yeah you hear me talk. Yeah, 1:05:32.320 --> 1:05:35.520 I'm here. Where where's that restaurant. 1:05:35.200 --> 1:05:37.840 At It's in Douglas still in Atlanta, Okay. And how 1:05:37.840 --> 1:05:38.840 long have you had the restaurant? 1:05:38.880 --> 1:05:40.000 It's about three years now. 1:05:40.520 --> 1:05:44.439 Are you going to do more franchises? Definitely franchise, franchise black. 1:05:44.920 --> 1:05:48.480 Yeah, you don't have to fantasize. 1:05:49.520 --> 1:05:49.760 Man. 1:05:51.560 --> 1:05:55.360 This is why I ain't just so listen because this 1:05:55.400 --> 1:05:58.480 episode is y'all just seeing how we hang out and how. 1:05:58.360 --> 1:06:00.920 We be on the phone talking ship. This is this 1:06:01.000 --> 1:06:01.840 is amazing. Man. 1:06:03.560 --> 1:06:08.840 Your career is inspiring. And I'll continue to say that 1:06:09.040 --> 1:06:12.840 because it's a true feeling of mine. You know, as 1:06:12.880 --> 1:06:15.959 I as I look at you know, obviously I've I've 1:06:16.040 --> 1:06:19.600 moved into different spaces and pivoted and those things, but 1:06:20.600 --> 1:06:24.440 I look at it like, in whatever facet of this industry, 1:06:25.720 --> 1:06:29.080 I gotta do it like sweat. You're literally a person 1:06:29.120 --> 1:06:32.200 I think of when I'm making certain decisions, and I 1:06:32.240 --> 1:06:35.080 wanted to tell you that, Like, something may come. 1:06:35.000 --> 1:06:39.040 Up and I'm like, who is Sweat do this? 1:06:40.560 --> 1:06:43.840 How could how would that make sense in the realm 1:06:43.880 --> 1:06:46.480 of the Valentine because you know you're the sweat. 1:06:46.680 --> 1:06:48.080 I'm the Valentine. So you know. 1:06:48.080 --> 1:06:51.960 I'm letting the people know. Man, I'm not mad. I'm 1:06:52.040 --> 1:06:55.160 learning from the best. And I also want to thank you. 1:06:56.280 --> 1:06:59.480 During the pandemic, we will be on the phone. You'll 1:06:59.480 --> 1:07:00.600 be giving me ourtips. 1:07:01.560 --> 1:07:03.720 You're like, yay, yeah, this is I. 1:07:03.640 --> 1:07:05.919 Ain't gonna say the names of the companies, but you'd 1:07:05.920 --> 1:07:11.200 be like, do some research on that company. I appreciate you, man, 1:07:11.560 --> 1:07:13.560 that's all good. Help me make a couple of dollars. Man, 1:07:13.600 --> 1:07:15.520 that's rights. And did you holler? 1:07:16.080 --> 1:07:20.840 I'm always gonna holler. I'm always yeah, nigga governor dollars, 1:07:20.880 --> 1:07:23.120 so you can holler. Man. You see how I'm on 1:07:23.200 --> 1:07:24.640 his crat every week. 1:07:27.120 --> 1:07:30.560 But yeah, man, we you know, I know it's gonna 1:07:30.640 --> 1:07:32.240 you would be here all night if we talked about 1:07:32.240 --> 1:07:34.080 all your accomplishments, man, And I don't want to hold 1:07:34.120 --> 1:07:36.880 you too long, but I it's some things that I 1:07:36.960 --> 1:07:37.720 it's some segments. 1:07:37.760 --> 1:07:40.520 Man, I need you for man, Ruben, what we got 1:07:40.560 --> 1:07:41.880 over there? Man? What we got? 1:07:42.680 --> 1:07:44.840 Come on, Ruben, don't move too slow? 1:07:47.600 --> 1:07:49.080 Yeah? 1:07:49.240 --> 1:07:52.560 Your top five man. You want to know something? Sweat 1:07:54.080 --> 1:08:07.400 fun Yeah, singers, allaby songs? Oh thank we got to 1:08:07.560 --> 1:08:12.680 know lord? Are you going there wrong? This shore? Everbody 1:08:13.240 --> 1:08:17.880 what they want to know? Yes? 1:08:28.960 --> 1:08:39.120 You curry? 1:08:39.160 --> 1:08:43.920 Oh boy, come on, Sweat, we need to know something Marvin. 1:08:44.160 --> 1:08:46.320 Okay, okay, okay, hold on, hold on, let me set 1:08:46.360 --> 1:08:48.760 up for you this Keith Sweats, Top five R and 1:08:48.800 --> 1:08:57.960 B singers, marm and Gay okay, Teddy Pindergrind Lou, the Vangos. Yeah, oh, 1:09:00.080 --> 1:09:01.760 let me think, Let me think. I won't make sure 1:09:01.760 --> 1:09:04.479 I'm doing it right now. We have three, that's three. 1:09:04.520 --> 1:09:08.200 I know I'm keeping it. I gotta make sure. Eddie 1:09:08.280 --> 1:09:14.559 Libert yeah, yes, sir. And Philip bay Win, Yes, sir, 1:09:15.680 --> 1:09:15.960 that's a. 1:09:18.280 --> 1:09:20.840 I respect it. Okay, okay, okay, okay. 1:09:21.040 --> 1:09:23.479 It takes some food to learn that love. Don't love 1:09:23.600 --> 1:09:25.280 nobody he could say. 1:09:25.400 --> 1:09:31.559 Yeah, cold like everybody I mentioned it was cold? Yeah yeah, 1:09:31.640 --> 1:09:36.760 flat Foot Yeah, Top five songs, Oh my god, come 1:09:36.800 --> 1:09:40.639 on your song, your song, guys, wet. 1:09:41.800 --> 1:09:42.640 Let me think. Let me. 1:09:42.760 --> 1:09:47.240 Thank well, it's something I said, Philippe. It takes a fool. Okay, 1:09:48.200 --> 1:09:53.400 we know that Teddy turned out the lights. Stevie Wonder 1:09:54.040 --> 1:09:54.960 very superstitious. 1:09:55.320 --> 1:09:58.680 Yeah, I love that song. You love that song. 1:09:58.840 --> 1:09:59.439 Love that song. 1:10:00.040 --> 1:10:01.600 If for winning five reasons. 1:10:02.800 --> 1:10:12.439 You're a false little guy. Uh what. 1:10:14.400 --> 1:10:20.599 Oh oh jays leave once? No, that's uh, that's spenders 1:10:20.840 --> 1:10:25.639 like let me think, Let me think, let me think. 1:10:26.840 --> 1:10:27.439 What's going on? 1:10:27.600 --> 1:10:32.920 Marm and Gate. Yes, sir, that's perfect for this time. Yeah, 1:10:33.040 --> 1:10:34.640 what we're going through. What's going on? 1:10:35.400 --> 1:10:38.719 We need more music like that, We need more socially 1:10:38.760 --> 1:10:42.559 conscious music, man, and we need people taking that chance two. 1:10:43.920 --> 1:10:44.920 To give that to the world. 1:10:45.240 --> 1:10:45.360 Right. 1:10:46.560 --> 1:10:49.679 I mean, and you know the younger the younger brothers 1:10:49.720 --> 1:10:53.240 that came after that, they have phenomenal But I always 1:10:53.280 --> 1:10:56.680 look at the people that open doors for everybody, and 1:10:56.800 --> 1:10:59.320 the brothers that I name I feel opened the doors 1:10:59.360 --> 1:11:02.840 for me to be who I am, and Johnny and 1:11:03.680 --> 1:11:07.560 Jerald and just you know, so I always got to 1:11:07.640 --> 1:11:11.160 look back on those brothers, even though it ain't the 1:11:11.320 --> 1:11:14.160 ones the younger people might know, those were the ones 1:11:14.200 --> 1:11:16.559 that were essential and. 1:11:16.720 --> 1:11:21.719 Impact for in my life, that made me or allow 1:11:21.840 --> 1:11:23.440 me to be the singer I am today. 1:11:23.800 --> 1:11:27.639 Speaking of your brothers of LSG. How you feel about 1:11:27.680 --> 1:11:29.640 the fact that y'all inspired TGT. 1:11:30.840 --> 1:11:33.160 I didn't even know it was that. I didn't even 1:11:33.160 --> 1:11:34.200 know TV. 1:11:34.360 --> 1:11:39.400 You knew y'all inspired TGT did. Yeah, I fired y'all 1:11:39.479 --> 1:11:41.160 that I inspired them. That's good. 1:11:41.439 --> 1:11:46.400 That's that's a blessing. Now I'm listen, let me say 1:11:46.439 --> 1:11:50.919 this to you. There's nothing in this game or industry 1:11:50.960 --> 1:11:55.080 that hasn't been done already. It makes me feel good 1:11:55.240 --> 1:12:01.559 when people will take something that was done by someone else, 1:12:01.680 --> 1:12:06.160 especially myself, and take it and run with it, meaning 1:12:06.320 --> 1:12:09.360 that I did a good job in creating it, where 1:12:09.400 --> 1:12:13.120 they want to create something that's just as good or 1:12:13.200 --> 1:12:13.960 better from that. 1:12:14.400 --> 1:12:14.639 Yeah. 1:12:14.800 --> 1:12:17.120 So I'm not mad at anything like that. 1:12:17.360 --> 1:12:24.360 I'm I'm more like appreciate, appreciative of it, you know, 1:12:24.520 --> 1:12:30.800 because it's like you're actually giving me my award and saying, yo, man, 1:12:31.800 --> 1:12:34.000 we want to do this because y'all inspired us to 1:12:34.120 --> 1:12:34.320 do this. 1:12:35.360 --> 1:12:38.559 So and even even you know, the like the shows 1:12:38.640 --> 1:12:41.720 and the tours that you've been a part of, like 1:12:41.880 --> 1:12:46.439 now seeing the R and B tour, Raymond and Brown, 1:12:47.600 --> 1:12:50.160 you know what I mean us You're and Chris how 1:12:50.320 --> 1:12:52.720 is it for you to see that happen? The two 1:12:52.840 --> 1:12:56.599 guys top of their game say, you know what, we're 1:12:56.600 --> 1:12:57.559 going to roll together. 1:12:57.680 --> 1:12:59.439 Well, as you know, I've been trying to get brothers 1:12:59.520 --> 1:12:59.760 do that. 1:12:59.840 --> 1:13:01.080 For that's why I asked. 1:13:01.320 --> 1:13:04.559 I know it, and it's good that they could figure 1:13:04.600 --> 1:13:06.639 it out. I just wish. 1:13:08.560 --> 1:13:11.280 That some R and B artists could figure it out. 1:13:11.360 --> 1:13:14.160 And it shouldn't always be about the money. I know 1:13:14.280 --> 1:13:17.560 it's about the money, but that's why I come in 1:13:17.720 --> 1:13:20.080 as a promoter or whatever, so I can make it 1:13:21.240 --> 1:13:23.920 where let's do it together. And that's why I say 1:13:25.080 --> 1:13:28.080 I wish more brothers would think a certain way whereas 1:13:28.640 --> 1:13:32.120 we invest in ourselves, because then you could. 1:13:32.000 --> 1:13:33.679 Do it to it like that because all the money 1:13:33.720 --> 1:13:34.760 is I was on the back end. 1:13:35.160 --> 1:13:35.280 Right. 1:13:35.800 --> 1:13:39.439 If we get more people to think like that, you'll 1:13:39.520 --> 1:13:43.960 actually make more money. You just won't get your money 1:13:44.040 --> 1:13:48.120 up front up front, and that's always the tricky part, right, 1:13:48.200 --> 1:13:50.639 But you will get your money because if you put 1:13:50.680 --> 1:13:52.400 a tour together, that's phenomenal. 1:13:54.680 --> 1:13:55.240 You're gonna win. 1:13:55.320 --> 1:13:58.800 Because I was telling them and nobody better steal my 1:13:58.880 --> 1:14:01.160 idea because I was to you, if you're still my idea, 1:14:01.520 --> 1:14:03.439 anybody take trying to take my idea. Right now, I'm 1:14:03.479 --> 1:14:04.920 gonna put it out there right here on camera. 1:14:05.479 --> 1:14:06.680 I can say it and. 1:14:06.720 --> 1:14:09.040 He'll put you in because right now it's right here, 1:14:10.080 --> 1:14:11.759 because everybody know it was my idea. 1:14:13.920 --> 1:14:22.840 He's my idea. I'm glad I did that. It's my 1:14:25.560 --> 1:14:29.600 So don't till my ship. You're gonna tell us what 1:14:29.720 --> 1:14:32.280 I did? Should I tell him? Little? Because it's here. 1:14:34.120 --> 1:14:36.720 That means it's solidified. I'm right. 1:14:37.800 --> 1:14:40.160 That means if somebody take it, the floor is yours 1:14:40.200 --> 1:14:43.920 you thank you so knowing this is my idea and 1:14:44.040 --> 1:14:47.240 I'm padding this. So basically, this is like I came 1:14:47.360 --> 1:14:49.320 up with it. This is a pattern right here on 1:14:49.400 --> 1:14:51.120 this show, right am I right room? 1:14:55.320 --> 1:14:55.599 Okay? 1:14:55.680 --> 1:15:01.479 You know I know I know how to choking. I 1:15:01.520 --> 1:15:03.559 ain't gonna do it. I ain't gonna say I tell 1:15:03.600 --> 1:15:06.240 you that you're where I was going with it. Boy, 1:15:06.360 --> 1:15:10.400 Oh lord Jesus, there's already a few of them get anyway, 1:15:10.680 --> 1:15:13.080 So I ain't gonna say nothing more. All right, So 1:15:13.200 --> 1:15:16.320 we're gonna, we're gonna, we're gonna get into the vote tron. Okay, 1:15:16.880 --> 1:15:20.160 where you build us the ultimate R and B singer 1:15:21.240 --> 1:15:25.559 top to bottom? Will you give us the vocals. 1:15:26.040 --> 1:15:27.439 Who vocals? M hm? 1:15:28.600 --> 1:15:33.240 They look the performance okay, performance style. Who's gonna kill 1:15:33.280 --> 1:15:37.200 that stage? Who's gonna put that fly ship on? You know, listen, 1:15:37.479 --> 1:15:39.280 I don't know. I don't know if y'all be paying attention. 1:15:39.840 --> 1:15:43.840 I've never seen sweat not fly. This is he just 1:15:43.880 --> 1:15:44.320 so y'all know. 1:15:44.400 --> 1:15:46.599 He changed off his five years to I've only been 1:15:46.640 --> 1:15:47.120 here for thirty. 1:15:47.200 --> 1:15:49.360 No, and if I take one and if I take 1:15:49.439 --> 1:15:51.720 one off up and keep one on, that means I'm 1:15:51.760 --> 1:15:53.479 thinking and don't disturb me. 1:15:55.360 --> 1:15:58.840 They know me? Am I right or wrong? I walk 1:15:58.880 --> 1:16:00.320 around to have the one shoe of sweat? 1:16:00.360 --> 1:16:00.720 What you doing? 1:16:00.760 --> 1:16:03.479 I'm thinking, don't leave me get leave me alone? Goddamn it. 1:16:06.920 --> 1:16:10.799 It's on the drip and then the passion of the artists. 1:16:11.960 --> 1:16:13.519 Who's gonna make you feel it? So we're gonna start 1:16:13.520 --> 1:16:14.080 with the first thing. 1:16:14.600 --> 1:16:18.439 Who's your singer, Who's who's the who's the vocal for 1:16:18.600 --> 1:16:20.920 this ultimate R and B singer? 1:16:21.160 --> 1:16:23.080 Because I named a bunch of them in the beginning. 1:16:23.200 --> 1:16:25.040 One of them can be, yeah, one of the one 1:16:25.040 --> 1:16:25.680 of your time for her. 1:16:25.680 --> 1:16:28.479 It could be the vocal whoever you wanted to think about, 1:16:28.520 --> 1:16:33.160 who had the range who had range, yeah and everything else. 1:16:33.240 --> 1:16:38.639 And you know who's so do back then. It's sad 1:16:38.720 --> 1:16:41.880 that I can't think because you know, there were so many. 1:16:43.000 --> 1:16:47.799 It's so sad it still would be Marvin because Marvin 1:16:47.880 --> 1:16:51.519 had the silkid's voice to Marvel's the vocals, Marvin is 1:16:51.560 --> 1:16:52.040 the vocal. 1:16:52.320 --> 1:16:55.040 Now, who's a stage performance who put on the show? 1:16:55.880 --> 1:17:00.519 Not Usher and Chris Usher Brown and Chris Yeah, yeah, yeah, 1:17:01.520 --> 1:17:05.360 if I attitude, I can't even do that so that 1:17:05.560 --> 1:17:06.000 I get. 1:17:07.600 --> 1:17:12.360 I can amerge him Chris stage Usher and Chris who 1:17:12.439 --> 1:17:15.759 put on the fly ship, Keith Sweat. 1:17:16.120 --> 1:17:20.680 Come on, I'm thinking to myself, if he don't name himself. 1:17:20.360 --> 1:17:25.840 I'm gonna get Keith Ahead Sweat Sweats, the sweat drip 1:17:26.840 --> 1:17:33.080 and the passion. Who got the passion? Who's the most 1:17:33.200 --> 1:17:34.680 passionate artist that you can think of? 1:17:36.040 --> 1:17:36.080 That? 1:17:36.240 --> 1:17:36.479 You know? 1:17:36.720 --> 1:17:37.720 Like I believe it? 1:17:38.640 --> 1:17:39.040 Mm hmm. 1:17:40.400 --> 1:17:45.160 I think Luther had that. Luther had that yeah when 1:17:45.240 --> 1:17:49.000 I yeah, have that like like he made you feel that. 1:17:49.240 --> 1:17:54.559 I gotta say Luther, yeah, every word, every word. That's 1:17:54.640 --> 1:18:01.439 a crazy artist. Marvin vocals, Chris and Usher, stage, Keith 1:18:01.520 --> 1:18:07.479 Swat to swag, the drip and Luther Vandross's passion. Yeah, 1:18:07.560 --> 1:18:09.760 that's that's gonna be a tough one to be. That's 1:18:09.760 --> 1:18:11.920 gonna that's gonna be a tough okay' you know. 1:18:12.000 --> 1:18:16.240 Since you are a songwriter, throw that curveball who writing 1:18:16.240 --> 1:18:17.200 the songs for that artist? 1:18:18.200 --> 1:18:24.160 Me and Tank, that means that it's gonna be timeless. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 1:18:24.880 --> 1:18:26.160 I love that. I love that. 1:18:26.640 --> 1:18:29.519 I gotta vinced think because you know that's my man anyway, man, 1:18:29.600 --> 1:18:30.240 that's my boy. 1:18:30.400 --> 1:18:31.320 No, I know, I know. 1:18:31.680 --> 1:18:34.240 So you know me and Tank because Tank is for 1:18:34.360 --> 1:18:35.120 people that don't know. 1:18:35.240 --> 1:18:38.120 Tank is phenomenal writer. You know, I'm just as dope, 1:18:38.479 --> 1:18:42.599 absolutely hope. So it's kind of like together. We haven't 1:18:42.640 --> 1:18:43.599 never written nothing together. 1:18:43.680 --> 1:18:55.240 But oh my god, the word on the streets is 1:18:55.320 --> 1:18:57.599 that you and Tank both cheated at Versus. 1:18:58.760 --> 1:19:01.120 Cheated. Yeah, how we cheating because. 1:19:00.960 --> 1:19:03.200 Y'all got y'all heads, But then y'all got the hits 1:19:03.280 --> 1:19:04.160 of others as well. 1:19:06.520 --> 1:19:07.120 I didn't cheat. 1:19:09.760 --> 1:19:10.960 I was at that versus too. 1:19:12.040 --> 1:19:14.320 Bob didn't Bobbie single addition songs. 1:19:15.040 --> 1:19:18.320 This is okay, so are we? That's fair? That's fair? 1:19:18.920 --> 1:19:23.040 So and Johnny is part of LSG. So I didn't cheat, 1:19:23.240 --> 1:19:26.679 you know, because Bobby Definitely. I'm like, that's when I said, 1:19:26.720 --> 1:19:28.479 hold on, you're gonna go there, we can go ahead 1:19:28.560 --> 1:19:31.280 it And you had the classic moments the same as 1:19:31.360 --> 1:19:32.520 Tank Tank turtleneck. 1:19:32.560 --> 1:19:38.200 You had the sh rock this ain't tea this tennesc Yeah. 1:19:39.760 --> 1:19:43.599 So you know, you know, we just entertainer. Yeah, now 1:19:43.640 --> 1:19:44.960 I had a I had a great time. 1:19:45.280 --> 1:19:46.320 That's just entertaining. 1:19:46.439 --> 1:19:46.599 Man. 1:19:46.720 --> 1:19:50.960 We like like, I love entertaining. I love doing things 1:19:51.080 --> 1:19:55.719 that everybody else is not doing. I think I loved 1:19:56.600 --> 1:19:59.000 like here my people tell you. I think every day 1:19:59.000 --> 1:20:02.400 about what else can I do the to shock the 1:20:02.520 --> 1:20:07.320 audience because most people that never saw me unimpression that 1:20:07.400 --> 1:20:09.240 I come out there, don't do what I do, and 1:20:09.280 --> 1:20:10.880 then when they see me, they be, oh my god, 1:20:10.960 --> 1:20:14.960 I had no clue. So I like to put that 1:20:15.200 --> 1:20:17.320 shock shock value on people. 1:20:18.000 --> 1:20:20.200 And so you got you got some you got something new. 1:20:20.240 --> 1:20:22.080 That's that's about the shock some people. Man, what's what's 1:20:22.120 --> 1:20:22.599 what's next? 1:20:24.200 --> 1:20:28.040 Well, I dropped the new record with Good Luck Part 1:20:28.080 --> 1:20:33.360 two with Calvin Richardson, George and Cupid and Roy and 1:20:33.560 --> 1:20:34.280 Chip Anthony. 1:20:34.880 --> 1:20:38.600 That dropped the day with the video and you know 1:20:38.720 --> 1:20:40.640 my Afrobeat the album I'm dropping. 1:20:41.240 --> 1:20:43.040 Man, when when is that? When is the Afrobeat the 1:20:43.040 --> 1:20:43.759 album coming. 1:20:44.280 --> 1:20:47.439 As soon as I finished one or two more songs 1:20:48.439 --> 1:20:52.080 and she but the song one song came out already 1:20:52.120 --> 1:20:53.520 with Clinton King Maddie. 1:20:53.280 --> 1:20:56.880 But I'm getting ready, fool lord, I'm getting ready hit people. 1:20:56.920 --> 1:20:59.479 Is that your Is that your main focus right now musically? 1:20:59.640 --> 1:21:03.160 Define really get in that space afore definitely. And you know, 1:21:03.360 --> 1:21:06.120 I got a record that I'm working on that's going 1:21:06.200 --> 1:21:08.680 to be impactful to the world. I'm should have wore 1:21:08.760 --> 1:21:11.559 my T shirt called thank Love. It's a record I'm 1:21:11.600 --> 1:21:12.679 working on called thank Love. 1:21:12.760 --> 1:21:14.920 Once I get all the people on the right people 1:21:14.960 --> 1:21:18.040 on it that I want, and I'm released it, and 1:21:18.840 --> 1:21:21.600 that's going to be very impactful to what's going on 1:21:21.720 --> 1:21:26.600 in the world today, because it's very important that like 1:21:26.760 --> 1:21:28.680 back in the day when everything was going on in 1:21:28.720 --> 1:21:32.000 the wall and stuff, Marvins put the song he put 1:21:32.280 --> 1:21:37.240 out What's going on right and all that. But it 1:21:37.439 --> 1:21:41.400 just seems like there's a lot going on. But a 1:21:41.520 --> 1:21:44.479 lot of people look at us as artists. They listen 1:21:44.560 --> 1:21:49.160 to our music, but we as artists, we have a voice, 1:21:50.120 --> 1:21:52.559 and our voice is not being used in the way 1:21:53.360 --> 1:21:55.280 that it can't be used. I don't mean we need 1:21:55.360 --> 1:21:58.639 to be very political on things, but there are certain 1:21:58.720 --> 1:22:02.439 things we can do and say musically that will impact 1:22:02.520 --> 1:22:04.280 people and help. 1:22:04.160 --> 1:22:08.639 People absolutely, and a lot of things are not being done. 1:22:08.640 --> 1:22:12.559 We're too busy worrying about certain other things, didn't worry 1:22:12.560 --> 1:22:13.599 about what's really going. 1:22:13.479 --> 1:22:14.160 On in the world. 1:22:14.520 --> 1:22:16.080 A lot of a lot of us are not even 1:22:16.120 --> 1:22:19.479 being not knowledgeable about what's going on because they're so 1:22:19.640 --> 1:22:22.719 caught up in social media and looking at other things, 1:22:22.760 --> 1:22:25.519 and we're not even looking at what's going on. You 1:22:25.600 --> 1:22:29.160 know what I'm saying because sometimes in life, you know, 1:22:31.120 --> 1:22:33.760 some people will dingle this in front of your face 1:22:33.840 --> 1:22:36.360 so you won't see this, and we have to learn 1:22:36.400 --> 1:22:40.680 how to look at what's real and what's not and 1:22:41.240 --> 1:22:45.080 how our focus is being taken off of this. Are 1:22:45.080 --> 1:22:48.400 they doing something by doing something completely now? Yeah, So 1:22:48.680 --> 1:22:52.000 I'm just saying that. That's why, you know, I mean, 1:22:52.280 --> 1:22:54.920 you know, but musically, you could say a lot of 1:22:55.040 --> 1:23:00.000 things that that will affect and touch people, and people 1:23:00.040 --> 1:23:04.960 will understand what you're saying because you know, that's we 1:23:05.080 --> 1:23:06.880 were all built on music. 1:23:07.000 --> 1:23:09.640 That's what you ain't gonna know where without it. 1:23:10.280 --> 1:23:14.519 It's everywhere right there, you go everywhere so once we 1:23:14.680 --> 1:23:18.280 as brothers and sisters understand what we need to do 1:23:18.840 --> 1:23:24.560 as a family, as a unit, as a whatever to 1:23:24.720 --> 1:23:26.760 change certain things in the world. We don't have to 1:23:26.880 --> 1:23:29.680 beat people over the head to change the world. Sometimes 1:23:30.439 --> 1:23:33.760 things are done in a different way and can be 1:23:33.840 --> 1:23:34.760 done in a different way. 1:23:35.800 --> 1:23:40.120 That's my attitude, great attitude. How do you feel about sampling? 1:23:41.040 --> 1:23:42.759 What's your what's your thoughts on sampling? 1:23:44.439 --> 1:23:46.120 Yeah, as it is. 1:23:46.840 --> 1:23:49.280 Plus I'm slampling my stuff for my apple. 1:23:49.080 --> 1:23:49.559 Me the album. 1:23:52.920 --> 1:23:54.680 But are you cool with letting other people say with 1:23:55.720 --> 1:23:56.439 if people. 1:23:56.280 --> 1:23:57.960 Slam with my stuff, I want to hear what these 1:23:58.000 --> 1:24:01.000 sampling and if it's dope, I'm gonna let it go. 1:24:01.520 --> 1:24:04.920 If it ain't, they ain't gonna be it. Because everything 1:24:05.000 --> 1:24:08.200 shouldn't be sample every all. My sample should not be 1:24:08.320 --> 1:24:11.759 on certain records because some records it's dope, some workers 1:24:11.840 --> 1:24:12.320 it's whack. 1:24:12.960 --> 1:24:15.559 And I have the right to say, right, you can't 1:24:15.640 --> 1:24:17.000 add sample my song. 1:24:17.680 --> 1:24:22.200 So have you thought about like catalog acquisitions or any 1:24:22.200 --> 1:24:22.920 of those type of things? 1:24:23.000 --> 1:24:25.880 Are you Where does your mind go when it comes 1:24:25.920 --> 1:24:28.120 to that, because that's obviously in our business now that's 1:24:28.160 --> 1:24:30.519 been a big thing over the last few years where 1:24:30.560 --> 1:24:36.320 people just like okay, twenty x fifteen x on on 1:24:36.439 --> 1:24:40.280 what the number is yearly to you know, either self 1:24:40.400 --> 1:24:44.280 piece or whole of your catalog. It depends that you 1:24:44.360 --> 1:24:46.320 got your choice to say yes or no. But if 1:24:46.360 --> 1:24:49.000 you do a catalog deal now they control that. 1:24:49.439 --> 1:24:51.640 Well, it depends on where you at in your life, right. 1:24:52.320 --> 1:24:55.000 I can't talk about how people financially. A lot of 1:24:55.040 --> 1:24:58.439 people do things because that's where they at financially, so 1:24:58.640 --> 1:25:01.000 they are a lot to do with whether you can 1:25:01.080 --> 1:25:03.839 hold off from doing that or whether you can. Sometimes 1:25:03.880 --> 1:25:06.479 people have to do that because that's where they are 1:25:06.520 --> 1:25:08.760 in their life, and I can't knock that because you know, 1:25:09.720 --> 1:25:13.120 you know, that's that's their idea of the option. You know, 1:25:13.400 --> 1:25:15.840 I mean, I don't know, you know, they might have 1:25:15.960 --> 1:25:17.439 to take care of their family, or they might have 1:25:17.560 --> 1:25:18.479 loved ones they want to take. 1:25:18.680 --> 1:25:21.880 Yeah, why they're alive or whatever the case is. 1:25:21.960 --> 1:25:25.280 You know what I'm saying. So if you can hold 1:25:25.360 --> 1:25:27.479 on to it, fine, If you can't, I mean, you know, 1:25:27.960 --> 1:25:30.880 to each his own. That's how I feel, honestly, because 1:25:31.760 --> 1:25:38.400 you know, I mean, if you build something that that's precious, 1:25:39.600 --> 1:25:41.640 and I mean because everything you know, you try to 1:25:41.680 --> 1:25:45.000 build any life from having a house and the house 1:25:45.040 --> 1:25:45.559 of praising. 1:25:45.960 --> 1:25:48.120 Yeah right, that ain't no different from that. 1:25:49.000 --> 1:25:50.840 At a time if you want to sell out and 1:25:50.960 --> 1:25:53.120 sell out because you might want the money to use 1:25:53.160 --> 1:25:56.560 it for something else or an investment, whatever the case is. 1:25:56.760 --> 1:25:59.439 You know, I don't know, So it depends on that person. 1:26:01.080 --> 1:26:03.360 And I you know, listen, I don't ask those questions 1:26:03.400 --> 1:26:05.320 to people that don't got the catalog. That's why I 1:26:05.360 --> 1:26:07.280 asked you, because you got a real catalog and I'm 1:26:07.400 --> 1:26:11.599 sure you get a lot of heah, But I'm gonna 1:26:11.600 --> 1:26:12.120 say this to you. 1:26:12.400 --> 1:26:14.880 If you know, I want my kids to always have 1:26:14.960 --> 1:26:18.160 an amazing life, and if my catalog can give them 1:26:18.200 --> 1:26:21.200 an amazing life instead of me holding going to it 1:26:21.240 --> 1:26:23.800 and I can do certain things where they can have 1:26:23.880 --> 1:26:26.720 an amazing life and live their life, of course, I'm 1:26:26.720 --> 1:26:29.479 gonna do what I gotta do in terms of because see, 1:26:29.600 --> 1:26:32.040 what's the point of me doing that? I leave hre 1:26:32.160 --> 1:26:36.479 there tomorrow. They don't get it. It's just sitting there. 1:26:37.920 --> 1:26:40.400 They don't have an amazing life, and they you know, 1:26:41.200 --> 1:26:43.240 like life is supposed to be enjoyed, right, because you 1:26:43.320 --> 1:26:44.360 can't take none of us. 1:26:44.280 --> 1:26:45.960 With you for sure. 1:26:46.280 --> 1:26:50.720 So what he's saying, is you catalog companies, He gonna 1:26:50.760 --> 1:26:52.920 need that heavy bag if he gonna even. 1:26:53.200 --> 1:26:53.800 Think about it. 1:26:54.400 --> 1:26:56.680 Don't cost sweat talking about a couple of dollars here 1:26:56.720 --> 1:26:59.439 and there, because that ain't gonna make him holor you're 1:26:59.520 --> 1:27:00.760 right on hollow. 1:27:02.760 --> 1:27:08.400 Dollar gotta be right, the dollar gotta be right. And 1:27:09.040 --> 1:27:10.320 new music all day long. 1:27:10.439 --> 1:27:13.080 So that's a whole other catalog stream. Yeah, yeah, so 1:27:13.200 --> 1:27:15.599 it ain't nothing going nowhere. I'm shooting movies. I put 1:27:15.640 --> 1:27:17.719 the catalog in the movie. Another catalog. 1:27:17.800 --> 1:27:20.720 So everything is gonna be what it's gonna gonna be right. 1:27:21.880 --> 1:27:24.960 All right, So we got we got, we got one 1:27:25.040 --> 1:27:31.280 more segment, one more segment. Man, play this record. I 1:27:31.280 --> 1:27:35.759 ain't saying no nigga, A saying no name, saying no names, 1:27:36.120 --> 1:27:37.120 ain't saying no name. 1:27:40.360 --> 1:27:47.000 What you did, don't say? She ain't saying no. 1:27:54.680 --> 1:27:56.000 Well, ain't nobody shipped to me. 1:28:01.240 --> 1:28:02.960 It could be funny. Then it could just be funny, 1:28:02.960 --> 1:28:03.880 you know. 1:28:04.160 --> 1:28:06.320 So so yeah, this is where you tell us a 1:28:06.400 --> 1:28:10.080 story funny or fucked up? Are funny and fucked up? 1:28:10.280 --> 1:28:13.880 The only rule to the game is Keith sweat the 1:28:13.960 --> 1:28:16.920 sweat himself. I can't say no names. 1:28:18.720 --> 1:28:23.120 So so what happened is like there was a show 1:28:25.040 --> 1:28:31.360 and the show was hot. It was that was they 1:28:31.479 --> 1:28:34.160 was grooving, they was doing their thing. And then I 1:28:34.240 --> 1:28:39.000 walked on stage and the crowd just went crazy and 1:28:40.360 --> 1:28:42.000 they thought they were screaming for them. 1:28:44.520 --> 1:28:47.160 Wait, you walked on stage while somebody else was performing and. 1:28:47.160 --> 1:28:49.840 They thought they were screaming the crowd when and they 1:28:49.880 --> 1:28:53.320 thought they were screaming for them. And they looked and 1:28:53.400 --> 1:28:54.720 turned around and looked at that me and said, oh 1:28:54.920 --> 1:28:58.639 ship that I can't tell you sweat. 1:28:59.479 --> 1:29:05.160 You walked on somebody else stage, man, I mean somebody 1:29:05.280 --> 1:29:07.400 a performance show man. Somebody told me to do it. 1:29:07.520 --> 1:29:09.280 Somebody told me, go on, just go on stage, just 1:29:09.360 --> 1:29:10.360 go and walk on the stage. 1:29:10.400 --> 1:29:13.519 And I did it, and the cross and they thought 1:29:13.720 --> 1:29:15.760 everybody thought they thought they were screaming for them. 1:29:16.120 --> 1:29:19.240 And they about me and they oh this nigga. 1:29:19.000 --> 1:29:24.519 Here, Oh no, yeah, that's fucked up and funny. 1:29:24.800 --> 1:29:28.479 Yeah, but I don't I don't know. I didn't want 1:29:28.520 --> 1:29:30.120 to walk on the stage. They told me to walk 1:29:30.160 --> 1:29:35.760 on the stage. I was minding my business, so you know. 1:29:37.840 --> 1:29:37.880 What. 1:29:38.000 --> 1:29:40.080 The no, I ain't gonna tell you about the stage. 1:29:40.400 --> 1:29:44.479 The other story that I was called on somebody else stage, 1:29:44.520 --> 1:29:46.800 and I was singing and they cut me off on 1:29:46.920 --> 1:29:48.960 the third songs. They said, man, if I let him 1:29:49.000 --> 1:29:52.120 sing that third song, it's gonna be a rap. They 1:29:52.200 --> 1:29:55.560 cut your mic, yeah, because like I had to it 1:29:55.720 --> 1:29:58.280 was not my tour for somebody else. Yeah, And I 1:29:58.439 --> 1:30:02.320 was killing it and they cut my BA. They said, yo, sweat, 1:30:02.479 --> 1:30:05.040 if we let you sing one more damns, it's gonna 1:30:05.040 --> 1:30:07.360 be this concert over. Niggas ain't gonna be able to 1:30:07.400 --> 1:30:10.360 come on behind you, boy let. I said, Man, all right, cool, 1:30:10.479 --> 1:30:15.200 no problem. But I can't tell that either. That's not 1:30:15.720 --> 1:30:16.599 that's not good to tell. 1:30:17.280 --> 1:30:20.160 I get it. Listen, I've seen I don't I've seen 1:30:20.240 --> 1:30:21.880 it with my own eyes. Yo. I've been on the road. 1:30:21.960 --> 1:30:23.960 You know what the amazing thing is. 1:30:24.600 --> 1:30:27.080 And I just you know, and I tell people that 1:30:27.280 --> 1:30:30.280 I can walk on anybody stay, whether it's the Millennial Tour, 1:30:31.200 --> 1:30:37.799 whether it is Masterpiece hip Hop, whatever, and the crowd 1:30:37.880 --> 1:30:38.640 will give me. 1:30:40.479 --> 1:30:44.479 Nothing but love. They'll go crazy. And I'm blessed to 1:30:44.560 --> 1:30:44.920 have that. 1:30:45.080 --> 1:30:50.560 I don't you know, like that that still like posles 1:30:50.680 --> 1:30:52.680 me to this day, that I can walk on a 1:30:52.760 --> 1:30:56.200 hip hop show, like when I went out and did 1:30:56.280 --> 1:31:01.479 bumby thing at the rodeo and and not when I 1:31:01.560 --> 1:31:07.559 walked and I came behind everybody but Ludacris, and they 1:31:07.600 --> 1:31:11.240 were in Banana. They were sixty thousands or better and 1:31:11.439 --> 1:31:13.160 they weren't Banana's out there. 1:31:13.320 --> 1:31:16.800 That's the thing too that I saw with my own 1:31:16.880 --> 1:31:22.240 eyes was all the different races, all the different colors 1:31:22.280 --> 1:31:25.040 of people that rock with key sweating, especially on the 1:31:25.040 --> 1:31:25.439 West coast. 1:31:25.479 --> 1:31:28.120 Right. You know, I'm a West Coast Julio Glaciers. 1:31:29.800 --> 1:31:34.760 Your Spanish crowd, it's different because I've seen you in 1:31:34.840 --> 1:31:37.000 the Bay. Well, you know, we got the mixed up. 1:31:37.160 --> 1:31:40.200 You know, we are melting pot up there, your La 1:31:40.400 --> 1:31:41.200 crowds though. 1:31:42.080 --> 1:31:43.519 The Spanish, what did you? 1:31:43.960 --> 1:31:44.280 What did you? 1:31:44.640 --> 1:31:51.120 The Latinos, the Chicanos, the lowriders like your music is 1:31:51.479 --> 1:31:53.800 like the soundtrack of their life. 1:31:53.840 --> 1:31:58.760 Don't don't dumb, don't like man. And when I got 1:31:58.840 --> 1:32:00.360 to see that, I think I came to you. And 1:32:01.680 --> 1:32:05.479 what's the Greek. I remember looking at the crowd. 1:32:05.280 --> 1:32:12.599 And I was like, oh shit, this is a whole 1:32:12.880 --> 1:32:20.439 Spanish Latino crowd going crazy to your music. Like your 1:32:20.560 --> 1:32:24.519 music has reached so many people, man, that feeling has 1:32:24.600 --> 1:32:25.360 to be incredible. 1:32:26.000 --> 1:32:26.840 Yeah, I mean. 1:32:28.760 --> 1:32:31.960 To me, like when I came out, I had all 1:32:32.120 --> 1:32:37.080 the gang bangers and they probably go in the game 1:32:37.120 --> 1:32:38.439 bang you listen in the Key Sweat. 1:32:39.600 --> 1:32:41.120 I mean, well, you know in the Jack City they 1:32:41.120 --> 1:32:42.840 did have a shootout after you say, but I ain't 1:32:42.840 --> 1:32:45.360 got nothing to do it, you know, I mean smaked 1:32:45.360 --> 1:32:47.800 the music. Smaked the music, man. 1:32:47.880 --> 1:32:51.439 So I mean, you know, yeah, but it's always been 1:32:51.600 --> 1:32:55.400 like that and it's never stopped. And that's the whole 1:32:55.560 --> 1:32:59.080 thing that I'm amazed that, you know what I'm saying. 1:32:59.360 --> 1:33:02.960 It's like it's I've been blessed, you know, definitely been blessed. 1:33:03.160 --> 1:33:05.720 He's still going to test of time and you've absolutely 1:33:05.800 --> 1:33:08.599 done it. And I man, I just want to say 1:33:08.640 --> 1:33:09.400 thank you, thank you. 1:33:09.760 --> 1:33:12.479 I appreciated five hits. Only I only have five hits. 1:33:12.280 --> 1:33:17.759 And my man, five times what five times zero five? 1:33:18.200 --> 1:33:19.320 Let me stop playing now. 1:33:20.280 --> 1:33:23.240 But no, you know, for you know, I'm happy that, 1:33:24.120 --> 1:33:26.280 you know, I've they been able to, you know, give 1:33:26.360 --> 1:33:28.880 the people the music that they wanted to hear. You know, 1:33:29.160 --> 1:33:31.400 maybe I'm happy, jes you know, to be able to 1:33:31.439 --> 1:33:33.680 still do what I'm doing and doing it in a 1:33:33.720 --> 1:33:36.479 big way. So I mean I'm on tour right now, 1:33:36.640 --> 1:33:39.799 so I called R and B Lovers too with myself 1:33:39.960 --> 1:33:45.040 Joe Jenuine cut clothes through here. May sure y'all come 1:33:45.080 --> 1:33:46.360 and check it out if you need to go to 1:33:46.479 --> 1:33:51.760 keysweat dot com. Come on and see these dates dot com. 1:33:52.120 --> 1:33:55.320 I just dropped a new song called Good Love Part 1:33:55.400 --> 1:34:06.160 two Calvin Richardson, King George Fid, Roy Anthony, myself, Chip 1:34:06.320 --> 1:34:09.479 Roy Anthony. To make sure y'all go Good Love Part too. 1:34:09.560 --> 1:34:11.559 Go listen to it now the videos out, You're gonna 1:34:11.600 --> 1:34:13.680 love it, I promise you. Then the Apple Beat the 1:34:13.680 --> 1:34:16.760 album is dropping. You want to hear that I'm saying, 1:34:16.760 --> 1:34:17.759 plating my own stuff. 1:34:18.960 --> 1:34:19.800 I want my question? 1:34:20.760 --> 1:34:21.200 What's up? 1:34:21.560 --> 1:34:24.240 Is my good friend keV on stage? Safe? If he 1:34:24.320 --> 1:34:26.880 see you? Man, you're not? Yeah, you ain't gona put 1:34:26.920 --> 1:34:29.000 him in the trunk? Nah? He don't. You know he 1:34:29.040 --> 1:34:29.519 didn't do it? 1:34:29.640 --> 1:34:32.960 Man, I mean, but you know, I'm just saying he's good. Knowledge. 1:34:33.400 --> 1:34:35.839 Knowledge is But let me say this to you. Knowledge 1:34:35.920 --> 1:34:40.200 is key. So when people talk, know what they talking about. 1:34:40.479 --> 1:34:42.000 That's all I ask people to do. You know what 1:34:42.000 --> 1:34:45.639 I'm saying, do your homework. Like like if I'm gonna 1:34:45.680 --> 1:34:47.680 speak on something, I'm gonna do my homework, you know, 1:34:47.920 --> 1:34:50.200 because knowledge is key, you know what I'm saying. And 1:34:50.360 --> 1:34:53.240 then and because I'm never gonna speak on somebody or 1:34:53.360 --> 1:34:55.920 what somebody doing unless than I do my research. Yeah, 1:34:56.080 --> 1:34:58.000 that's the whole key, you know. And I know he 1:34:58.120 --> 1:34:59.240 probably was having fun. 1:34:59.400 --> 1:34:59.680 I'm mad. 1:34:59.720 --> 1:35:01.599 I'm not even tripping on that like that for real, 1:35:01.800 --> 1:35:03.439 for real, I'm just you know what I'm saying. 1:35:03.439 --> 1:35:06.400 I laugh. It's funny because I laugh at well, I 1:35:06.520 --> 1:35:08.120 be threatening him for you don't do that. 1:35:09.320 --> 1:35:09.760 Don't do that. 1:35:10.560 --> 1:35:12.479 You know what sweat do, don't do that, don't do that. 1:35:12.920 --> 1:35:12.960 No. 1:35:13.160 --> 1:35:15.080 But seriously, I'll be just laughing. 1:35:15.120 --> 1:35:18.000 I'll be a lot of things that used to bother 1:35:18.120 --> 1:35:19.840 me back in the day just make me smile right 1:35:19.960 --> 1:35:23.080 now because to me, it's like they just don't know. 1:35:23.280 --> 1:35:23.640 You don't know. 1:35:24.320 --> 1:35:25.400 If you don't know, you don't know. 1:35:25.840 --> 1:35:26.040 Yeah. 1:35:26.560 --> 1:35:29.680 So I mean because there's things that I don't know 1:35:29.800 --> 1:35:33.600 unless I do my research. So like, you know, I 1:35:33.680 --> 1:35:35.960 don't you know when I watch things like that, when 1:35:36.000 --> 1:35:38.240 I call you and be saying, who this dude talking that? Man, 1:35:38.880 --> 1:35:41.000 I kind of be like, man, pick that nigga on 1:35:41.040 --> 1:35:44.960 the fall right now, let me let me, let me 1:35:45.040 --> 1:35:47.800 have a conversation with her. Man Like dude, what's wrong 1:35:47.840 --> 1:35:50.280 with you? Stop making like I'm too old for you 1:35:50.360 --> 1:35:52.080 to rebringing my name up. Bring one of them young 1:35:52.160 --> 1:35:54.120 dudes's names of it. Leave me alone. I'm you know 1:35:54.120 --> 1:35:55.799 what I'm saying, like, I ain't. 1:35:55.640 --> 1:35:56.719 Got time for that mess. 1:35:56.800 --> 1:35:56.960 Man. 1:35:57.000 --> 1:35:59.280 You know what, that's just me at this point in 1:35:59.320 --> 1:36:01.160 my life. That's just me. If I ain't bother you, 1:36:01.280 --> 1:36:03.720 don't bother me, leave me alone. Keep my name at 1:36:03.800 --> 1:36:04.160 your mouth. 1:36:04.640 --> 1:36:06.760 I feel better when you do that, you know what 1:36:06.840 --> 1:36:10.240 I'm saying, because I still get a little irritated when 1:36:10.280 --> 1:36:13.400 you're speaking like I don't like. I don't like to 1:36:13.479 --> 1:36:15.960 be spoken on, especially if you was just speaking out 1:36:16.000 --> 1:36:17.679 of content text. 1:36:17.760 --> 1:36:20.120 You know what I'm saying. I just like, come on, man, 1:36:20.280 --> 1:36:23.000 why you gotta bring my name up? And there's so 1:36:23.120 --> 1:36:24.640 many other people names you can bring up. 1:36:24.720 --> 1:36:25.360 Leave me alone. 1:36:25.640 --> 1:36:28.120 I ain't bothering you. I'm not bothering nobody. I'm doing 1:36:28.160 --> 1:36:30.679 what I love and doing my thing. If I stop 1:36:30.840 --> 1:36:39.519 bothering you, you're gonna know it. People don't bother sweat now. 1:36:40.360 --> 1:36:44.360 I'm happy. I'm I'm I'm happy. I'm content. You know 1:36:44.400 --> 1:36:46.720 what I'm saying. I'm blocking people. 1:36:49.920 --> 1:36:52.000 You block I ain't never blocked. Nobody's blocking people. 1:36:53.160 --> 1:36:55.880 I'm blocking if you, if if you, if you, if 1:36:57.040 --> 1:36:59.440 if you feel like I feel there's a pressure. 1:36:59.160 --> 1:37:02.200 Heat cook on on me, I'm blocking you. If I 1:37:02.240 --> 1:37:07.599 feel like there's a pressure cooking on me, I'm blocking you. Man, 1:37:07.960 --> 1:37:11.360 if you're somebody that's been blocked by Keith sweatna, I 1:37:11.400 --> 1:37:14.800 mean you're not blocked from watching let me let me 1:37:14.880 --> 1:37:15.320 chase your son. 1:37:16.160 --> 1:37:17.479 Bad energy is not good. 1:37:18.640 --> 1:37:21.200 And if I feel like you've got bad energy, what's 1:37:21.240 --> 1:37:24.080 the point of me holding what's the point that you letting? 1:37:24.160 --> 1:37:25.559 You even call me? Yeah? 1:37:26.240 --> 1:37:27.160 Like, don't I want? 1:37:27.400 --> 1:37:30.000 Like when I see your numbers? Like, yo, all, I 1:37:30.040 --> 1:37:32.360 already know what that this is gonna be about. It's 1:37:32.360 --> 1:37:36.320 about bad energy. Don't even call me. I'm good. You 1:37:36.400 --> 1:37:39.720 could be flys hell No, I respect that, Like, but 1:37:40.439 --> 1:37:42.960 you be fly by yourself. Don't call my phone, leave 1:37:43.000 --> 1:37:45.439 me alone. You know that's just how you know what 1:37:45.479 --> 1:37:48.519 I'm saying. Once you get to a point that you fly, 1:37:50.479 --> 1:37:57.479 then everything around me then you outding me. Baby, you 1:37:57.520 --> 1:38:00.479 don't need me. You fly, so you don't need me 1:38:00.560 --> 1:38:02.840 to be around you. You don't even need to talk 1:38:02.880 --> 1:38:04.599 to me. You don't need you A good morning, goodbye. 1:38:05.200 --> 1:38:07.679 You know what I'm saying, kiss my butt, don't need lock. 1:38:10.120 --> 1:38:13.320 That's healthy for you. You don't agree. 1:38:13.760 --> 1:38:14.320 I agree. 1:38:14.880 --> 1:38:18.960 It's healthy when you get certainly like it's healthy when 1:38:18.960 --> 1:38:23.200 you remove or healthy things about your life. Right because 1:38:23.200 --> 1:38:24.760 you know you have somebody in your life it will 1:38:24.800 --> 1:38:29.799 blame you for everything and it won't take responsibility for nothing. 1:38:30.000 --> 1:38:37.639 Nothing that's unhealthy because like there's nobody perfect and somebody 1:38:37.880 --> 1:38:40.200 you know, I'm not perfect. If I'm in a relationship 1:38:40.240 --> 1:38:42.800 with somebody, I got my fault, so you're gonna tell 1:38:42.840 --> 1:38:43.680 me you faultless. 1:38:44.439 --> 1:38:45.479 I don't get out of here with that. 1:38:45.560 --> 1:38:47.640 I ain't hard working, I don't know something, so just 1:38:47.760 --> 1:38:48.360 ain't right man. 1:38:49.920 --> 1:38:53.840 Back to the music, Yeah, yeah, you know, make it 1:38:53.920 --> 1:38:58.280 last for every candles, Yes, yeah, you know, platinum status, bad. 1:38:58.120 --> 1:39:00.759 And don't give me trust what we are and don't 1:39:00.800 --> 1:39:06.200 get it twisted. They put it to a pie. Okay, man, Like. 1:39:06.280 --> 1:39:09.799 I said, sweat, thank you, this is this has been amazing. 1:39:10.640 --> 1:39:14.280 Thank you, super appreciative man. Boy man, you always showed 1:39:14.280 --> 1:39:17.120 me love since the day I met you. Thank you always, man, 1:39:17.320 --> 1:39:20.559 and I can't thank you enough appreciate it. So I'm 1:39:20.640 --> 1:39:27.160 Jay Valentine and sweat. I'm you know what, Go ahead, Valentine. 1:39:27.200 --> 1:39:30.519 Be sweat and this is all and be money man. 1:39:30.560 --> 1:39:32.880 We finished, and I hope he ain't got no more 1:39:33.000 --> 1:39:36.920 questions if he wanted to ask me, take you got 1:39:37.000 --> 1:39:38.880 some to take to call me to ask a question. 1:39:42.000 --> 1:39:42.519 I got that